psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Give t4 blazing spirit on trauma, 4 stacks per crit max stack 8.

[bleak tulip]

to be fair that last one is probably a surge blessing bug

dont tell anyone tho

[near wyvern]

MG Ia for instance, haven't tested yet but pretty sure Headhunter (single fire) as well since it was barely hitting the break points already.

[unborn flicker]

Our little secret

[autumn grail]

perhaps I'm using Void staff wrong then b/c I only stagger unyielding and can only clear hordes when they are in a line.

[near wyvern]

XII and MG Ia share breakpoints still so it's the same

[willow hazel]

I am assuming Columnus builds are mostly the same, just -10% damage.

[near wyvern]

Nah, if you have Assails the only difference is it's fucking hard to keep the peril up

You just weave more than before

[unborn flicker]

I can knock anything except monstrosities and mutants on their booty

[willow hazel]

The weapon swap delay on Columnus kinda sucks with Assail though

[near wyvern]

They really need to increase peril gen of LMB Assail by like 50%

[near wyvern]

Nah it's fine given how powerful Columnus is

[autumn grail]

I have been enjoying Kinetic flayer with Fast shooting guns and Scryers Gaze to get high crit rates.

[unborn flicker]

Powerful?

[olive ember]

give me the fucking rending blessing on my purge staff

[near wyvern]

Lighting strike once every 15 seconds, oh shit it hit a groaner!

[autumn grail]

Why would you waste ammo on a groaner

[broken pollen]

Man vet chat is in pure malding mode

[bleak tulip]

rending SB

[fresh reef]

what should I roll here?

[willow hazel]

It feels like the swap time loses more DPS than the 0-20% gained from Warp Rider

[near wyvern]

So you don't melee trash?

[eager mantle]

Every game forum ever with zero hours into a new patch

[olive ember]

Replace thrust for BM, get rid of stamina i guess

[near wyvern]

No, you loose DPS because you need to keep peril up with RMB

[autumn grail]

Not normally the Zelots and Orgrys seem to enjoy that most of the time.

[near wyvern]

Columnus is a burst damage weapon anyways

[broken pollen]

Nah it’s not even that baseline level of mald it’s real bad

[autumn grail]

I would get rid of thrust personally, head taker is easier to use and more consistent.

[glossy ember]

did anyone bug report the new surge staff gambling mechanic yet

[near wyvern]

Search forums if it's not there it's not reported

[glossy ember]

i guess imma check

[near wyvern]

It's there on the front page lmao

Didn't even have to use the search bar

[glossy ember]

"a bug with psyker"

yea

[steel flame]

I mean.....they aren't wrong

[glossy ember]

could use a better thread but well it works

[still hearth]

A new one?

[spice oar]

gambling mechanic?

like a random chance to do smthn?

[glossy ember]

rmb can hit any bodypart

instead of always torso

[still hearth]

Lmao

Is that why it does RNG damage

Or is that separate

[glossy ember]

no

[spice oar]

massive

[glossy ember]

separate

[still hearth]

Poggers

Surge staff users just keep losing

[glossy ember]

yeah massive 400 damage crits on arm

[still hearth]

[autumn grail]

Is it posable to Aim the Right mouse button attack now?
On surge staff?

[spice oar]

but also weakspot crits are a thing

[glossy ember]

1/7 chance

[spice oar]

and im a damm good gambler

[glossy ember]

[glossy ember]

no

[ornate hamlet]

suge gamba

[still hearth]

Wait so Surge can hit heads now

OPOP

[autumn grail]

I never thought of Aiming as gambling but I get it. Why try.

[potent echo]

1/7 of the time

[ornate hamlet]

think of it as a critical crit

[glossy ember]

warframe enjoyers

[still hearth]

So you have like a 4/7 chance to do less damage

Or something

?

[glossy ember]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

so surge staff is back to garbage again huh?

[willow hazel]

It's still probably better than Purgatus, but definately worse than it was patch 14

[olive ember]

lmao

better than purgatus?

[willow hazel]

It kills most stuff fine, but really struggles with Crusher now

[autumn grail]

Surge staff dose seem unnecessarily more difficult to use well, with aiming a projectile that I can't even tell how it shoots or it trajectory. It still crits verry often and dose a lot of burst damage quickly but I'm not clear how to aim with it yet.

[olive ember]

Basically take patch 13 surge staff which was already weak

and now give it an rng chance to do half damage

and thats what we have for surge staff now

[willow hazel]

Patch 13 surge was gigabroken with Perilous Combustion giving 4 soulfire stacks

[olive ember]

it was not "giga broken"

perilous combustion was giga broken

surge staff was just being crutched by that

[plucky flax]

Yoo you can inspect people in the game ready menu.

[olive ember]

yeah they added that

[plucky flax]

I can see their shitty weapons in 3d.

[uneven compass]

Just build into luck irl so your surge rng will always hit the head and crit obviously

[fading iris]

I was able to do that before the patch

[olive ember]

it can't hit head iirc

[autumn grail]

Yup we can now see were people got their cosmetics from.

[willow hazel]

Because surge staff had the lowest TTKs, which scales really well with "on enemy death" mechanics

[olive ember]

just that it went from body only to now you can hit body AND limbs

[fading iris]

I even took some targets far than it should, and I don't play surge with the EP bug, the distance on surge staff RMB was a bit wonky

[olive ember]

its like 25m

which is decently far

[ornate hamlet]

u cant kill even a crusher anymore without blowing urself up

[fading iris]

Just use the peril explosion to kill it

[ornate hamlet]

gigabrain

never tought of that

[autumn grail]

the peril increase on the Surge staff dose seem a bit heavy handed.

[ornate hamlet]

dmg is not good either for a single target weapon

[spice oar]

so Warp Rupture is still absolute unforgiving garbage right?

[willow hazel]

The extra peril is balanced by the fastest quell speed. It's mostly just extra toughnesss regen and damage

[ornate hamlet]

5 full casts to kill a crusher if you dont get any crits

😄

[autumn grail]

for me to use Warp rupture I need Purgatis and Shield to make up for all of it's short comings.

[fading iris]

Assail - Increased the Base Cooldown. 2s to 3s. literally unplayable now! observation: this is a joke

[glossy ember]

it's so over surge bros

[fading iris]

Warp Rider giving 10% always explains a lot

[ornate hamlet]

it really is

[autumn grail]

oh yeah I haven't thought about that. thats a good point.

[glossy ember]

maybe there's a trick to always make it hit head...

[spice oar]

what do you guys think?

[willow hazel]

left click

[hasty pier]

Empower Bug GONE

[glossy ember]

time for left click only gameplay

[tribal patio]

is surge staff even usable now?

[glossy ember]

anything's usable

[autumn grail]

they did buff the staff's Left click

[tribal patio]

better word -- Optimal or Viable

lol

[hasty pier]

I'd even say most things are viable

[tribal patio]

it feels bad after the patch

[autumn grail]

Sure. Anything is possible with teamwork.

[hasty pier]

Then don't use it

[hasty pier]

Posable

I'm scared now

[glossy ember]

"just dont use ur fav weapon"

[fluid aspen]

Hairstyles work with the veils now

[glossy ember]

ive been waiting for ep bug to go away forever

[hasty pier]

I mean what other option is there?

[glossy ember]

now it's a gambling machine

[hasty pier]

Not like you're gonna make a mod to fix it

[glossy ember]

tzeentch staff

[fading iris]

Added 50+ new bonding conversations.
Reduced probability on the most common bonding conversations.
Reduced frequency of Assail shards equip VO.

Cheer Spam gang eating good

[uneven compass]

It's gonna feel bad having to take so long to kill stuff with surge now but it's my fav staff so guess just gonna have to suffer

[autumn grail]

calling Aiming a weapon gambling still cracks me up.

[glossy ember]

low tier staff users rise up

[autumn grail]

But the Surge staffs trajectory is wonky to aim.

[kind jay]

you mean a straight line?

[fading iris]

just hold the powa, aim and then click to shoot

[glossy ember]

i mean you're not exactly aiming

it chooses a random part

and hits it

[autumn grail]

I'll have to play around with it in the Meat grinder I guess.

[hasty pier]

If you aim above them so the sphere hits head then boom headshot

[rose dagger]

RIP my greaser hair

[glossy ember]

so you're saying surge rmb can constantly hit weakpoint?

[rigid rune]

leather club is two blocks down

[rose dagger]

lmao

[fading iris]

I log in, get the pop up, for 1 second I was like "what did I do now?" before the oh yeah, update cinematic intro

[rigid rune]

you ain't seen shit

[hasty pier]

I thought we were talking voidstrike

[rose dagger]

i saw that link

for one

[hasty pier]

Also join blazing trauma gang

[surreal jetty]

actually just tried a blazing trauma last match and loved it

[glossy ember]

no

surge

[autumn grail]

I see what you mean. the right click attack on the Surge staff dose seem to only his a random body parts.

[fading iris]

Surge staff... feels the same for me, y'all were too hook up into the EP stimm

[surreal jetty]

i had been using wc and it feels weaker

[glossy ember]

suddenly it aint as funny as before huh

[hasty pier]

Unironically quell canceling gives me slidecasting vibes from FFXIV

[glossy ember]

my brother in christ the emperor

[fading iris]

Is because of the Warp Rider fix

[autumn grail]

thanks for clearing that up for me.

[versed hedge]

This skill now has no cooldown time

[surreal jetty]

i thought that too, but even keeping around 80% peril it doesn't feel as good because i have to quell after a couple hits

[hasty pier]

Soul blaze doesn't get applied if they instantly die to RMB right?

[still hearth]

It never did.

[versed hedge]

After killing the highlighted enemy, another one will immediately light up

[still hearth]

That was always the case.

It always lied.

The wording on it is the worst thing I've ever seen tbh

[autumn grail]

as long as you kill your highlighted target you will always get another but if you wait too long it will change targets.

[still hearth]

It has various triggers to swap targets

Like if you can't see them

It will swap faster

[fading iris]

oh and I see what ppl are talking about the surge RMB, the "main" light "whip" is now more visible than before

[still hearth]

As in the glow isn't on your screen.

[autumn grail]

Good to know

[hasty pier]

Like if I crit RMB, the soul blaze doesn't get applied if they die to the charge blast, which means you don't get the 10% chance to get a Warp charge?

[still hearth]

It's bugged.

Enjoy

[surreal jetty]

also does the surge have some audio and gibbing bugs? it doesn't sound the same nor do most enemies no longer explode

[fluid aspen]

I see you're a fellow Cape+veil enjoyer

[surreal jetty]

oh?

[still hearth]

Surge

Can apparently hit random body parts

And the limbs take less damage

[solid panther]

so surge got basically giga nerfed once on purpose and the other accidentally

[surreal jetty]

yeah, i had seen that. though someone was arguing earlier that that made it a buff since it has the potential to weakspot hit

[still hearth]

A bug was fixed and then it was fucked up

[still hearth]

Okay but

If they all have equal chance

And there's 4 limbs...

(To be fair idk the chance)

[surreal jetty]

exactly what i was thinking when they were saying it lol

[potent echo]

oh what the hell

imagine closing gates and stuff

when you can camp the spawn of the finale

second run

[jolly cedar]

Psyker is worthless now

[near wyvern]

On the bright side you can now farm True Aim stacks with Smite

[jolly cedar]

There is nothing this class is good for after patch 15

The very definition of trash

The epitome of garbage

[potent echo]

psyker is worthless now
next post, yellow numbers

the duality of psyker

[near wyvern]

Biggest troll of the year

[jolly cedar]

The impetus for worthlessness

[jolly cedar]

?

Surge is gone

[solid panther]

THE WARP IS OVERTAKING US

[jolly cedar]

Assail is gone

[fading iris]

my playstyle bridges the surge changes, so I can buff myself into the old surge ways and doesn't take long, but I'm crazy and hehe so quirky and unique, this shouldn't be the default way to surge

[rose dagger]

thank the emperor

[jolly cedar]

Veteran has become death incarnate

[near wyvern]

Assail is not gone you gotta weave it

[versed hedge]

I conducted 100 damage tests, with high damage accounting for 38 times and low damage accounting for 62 times

[rose dagger]

both those were giving psykers a bad rep

[near wyvern]

Void and Trauma exist

DS4, Deimos exist

[jolly cedar]

It feels pathetic in comparison to what it used to be

[idle bay]

So they killed Kenny.. i mean nerfed Surge besides fixing it's bug?

[near wyvern]

Psylot exists

[jolly cedar]

Void has gotten its buffs revoked

[fading iris]

and by hehe so quirky and unique I mean dumb and like to do bad decisions

[near wyvern]

The only thing it needs is more peril gen now that we have fewer shards

[versed hedge]

The electricity doesn't feel as good as the version before 1.2

[sudden bay]

A New Psycher has entered the Arena!!! Hello Brothers!

[surreal jetty]

ive been seeing psylot around but have no idea what that is. just a melee psyker?

[unborn flicker]

Much like the Imperium

[fading iris]

Go away, is Hel here

[unborn flicker]

Fat shark hates pyskers

[jolly cedar]

The only option now is to use gunker

[glossy ember]

just dont use surge staff

it's still usable

[jolly cedar]

Scriers gaze + destiny is the only way

[glossy ember]

but it's gamba

[fading iris]

Maybe there was other bug affecting the surge staff that was fixed

[near wyvern]

Still works, you just gotta do 4LMB 1 RMB now instead of just LMB to keep up peril when weaving

https://youtu.be/WSoZl63Gxi4

[rose dagger]

embrace laspistol scriers and play weird zealot

[still hearth]

Laspistol supremacy

Since it can give you peril

[sudden bay]

not sure if herasy check... or commitment...

[near wyvern]

And of you are curios I just did Psylot in Damnation Hi int STG Carnival and got top damage

[fading iris]

+++yes+++

[near wyvern]

All these people crying Assail does no damage cause they can't stack malefic momentum because they are using a staff

[near wyvern]

Very true

[fading iris]

assail still fine, just re-learn the shard time

[near wyvern]

The small puff is just enough to stop peril regen for a while too

[still hearth]

Holy fuck

Surge is

The worst now

LMAO

[potent echo]

i need to try this

[autumn grail]

yeah

[potent echo]

random body part nonsense

[near wyvern]

Nooo I can't go LLLLR, my brain can only mash a single button

[fading iris]

[near wyvern]

But in all seriousness LMB needs to generate more peril

[olive ember]

assail trash now CONFIRMED?!?!?

[fading iris]

This mofo is giving me mixed signals

[near wyvern]

I give zero fucks if it does 80 damage per shard just lemme stack peril

[autumn grail]

it doesn't even make sense, lighting affects the whole body when it makes a circuit. why only affect one body part.

[frank moat]

I haven’t been keeping up, is the Surge change intentional?

[still hearth]

Yes

[potent echo]

no one knows

[still hearth]

But it probably won't be kept

[autumn grail]

seems like it

[still hearth]

[plucky flax]

First game on carnival. This is just regular damn but so many shooters and elites. Blaze trauma still op tho.

[potent echo]

its in the chain_lightning.lua

[autumn grail]

[potent echo]

so it could be for either

[potent echo]

nooo you dont get it psyker is trash now 😢

[still hearth]

It does work on Smite too yeah

[potent echo]

/s

[plucky flax]

I know and blaze trauma is beyond trash. Pls buff.

[fading iris]

I could kill him with 2 RMB, now is 3 unbuffed or 2 buffed, 2 with critical hit one or both... but then sometimes, aiming at the same part because it's now a thing, I can 2 hit kill unbuffed, what in the Emperor's name is this, and is only on this dude

[plucky flax]

I'll miss my handcannon assail tho. 😦

[potent echo]

F

[olive ember]

yeah I can see what they mean by its open as fuck

btw I just got a scriers gaze recon las psyker

fucking great

[potent echo]

means you win the game

[shell igloo]

Damn this new mission is hard asf. Just tried with a group on damnation and wiped like 5min in

[potent echo]

unless he runs out of ammo

which he will

[olive ember]

the beginning is a bum rush

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1DNXpz0W60ktJ2/d1337RQB90VQ?invite=cr-MSx6cEgsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

Enjoy

300 damage to body

[plucky flax]

Over 100 elite shooters and over 250 smol shooters on regular damn.

[still hearth]

Or 600 damage

[autumn grail]

I suppose psyker are a support class now.

[plucky flax]

Maelstrom on that map will be kinda hell.

[still hearth]

Or 300 damage crits

Or 800 damage crits

[potent echo]

yea new surge is completely unusable

[jolly cedar]

Trash class*

[shell igloo]

Why's that?? Did they nerf it in addition to the EP fix??

[potent echo]

they uhhh

[jolly cedar]

The only honorable thing that psykers can have the decency of doing is taking themselves out

[potent echo]

had techdebt that they didnt clear

so the same bug that introduced EP bug now introduced some other weird thing

which may or may not be intended

[autumn grail]

yeah I can see that.

[near wyvern]

Now that Smite can farm True Aim I wonder if it's worth it to do something like this just to keep peril up ez:

[still hearth]

Lmao

Truly the peak

[fading iris]

Just change it to DS and make it personal , btw: You don't know what love means because Nothing More SLAPS

[potent echo]

yea smite true aim real

[still hearth]

[potent echo]

the new music is so distracting

when 10million things are spawning

[glossy ember]

this is so cringe

[still hearth]

Holy

[autumn grail]

I thought the music fitting.

[still hearth]

Smite gets true aim

So fast

[autumn grail]

LOL

[potent echo]

but it cant crit itself right?

[still hearth]

Ah nvm I just got lucky

[potent echo]

WAIT

[still hearth]

Nope

[potent echo]

TRUE AIM BLAZE TRAUMA

[still hearth]

But you can swap to Surge

[azure bridge]

what does true aim do again?

[still hearth]

Gives crit on ranged

100% after 5 weakspot hits

[potent echo]

smite blaze trauma now meta?????

[azure bridge]

so would the play be to use smite to farm up true aim stacks, then fire out from another staff?

[still hearth]

It always was

[plucky flax]

Nah you need wildfire.

[still hearth]

I think uhhh

[plucky flax]

Oh wait with smite.

[still hearth]

Smite + Voidstrike and True Strike

Might be pretty good now

Surge for free

[potent echo]

smite in the meta

[plucky flax]

Why smite and blaze they do the same job but blaze trauma is just better.

[fading iris]

Why I have the feeling that the body parts got a stealth update the ended up breaking up a lot of stuff

[potent echo]

did we ever thought we seen this day

[vestal fulcrum]

Is that Psylot?

[autumn grail]

True aim with void could work then?

[potent echo]

true aim with any big thing yea

[vestal fulcrum]

Also funny times these are, when Smite can hit heads

[potent echo]

dont even need nexus now

[summer prairie]

smite is better in some situations

unless you only care about dmg number going up

[azure bridge]

so when smite chooses which body party to attack, is that on cast, or on damage tick?

[potent echo]

blaze flurry true aim smite trauma

[potent echo]

on tick

[plucky flax]

My blaze trauma build I literally use my staff for 95% of the map.

I don't even bb.

[azure bridge]

gotcha, also i'm a little bit ignorant here but what does blaze trauma refer to ?

[autumn grail]

Okay, so the hitting random body part is moved to Smite triggering true aim.

[potent echo]

yea

[near wyvern]

Smite + Blaze Rending Trauma might actually become a thing

[fading iris]

numbars go up, um' go happy

[still hearth]

Hmm

Interesting

Yeash I guess Rending would work then

More Soulblaze damage too

[potent echo]

rending buffs fire damage too

this is the new dawn for psykers

[near wyvern]

Almost, with Psylot you take assails with both upgrades (take the node from +ranged damage down right)

[still hearth]

I feel like the DPS would still be lower

Since you have to do the setup

[potent echo]

probably

[autumn grail]

its more of a burst build then?

[plucky flax]

That's too much micro.

How about just full charge right click blast.

[fading iris]

the lmb stagger on the right body part now is stupid "strong", I managed to stagger and push a mob to another map

[supple skiff]

rip surge users

fun while it lasted

[fading iris]

Fat Shark really changed something on the body part system that is affecting a hell lot of things

[willow hazel]

Even trappers take reduced limb damage

[digital narwhal]

INSANE DPS

YOOOO

[plucky flax]

Play trauma for always body shot damage.

[digital narwhal]

(I am coping now that my favourite Staff is dumpstered again)

[plucky flax]

[near wyvern]

When do these Surge criers realize to use a full battery with +armour perks to get damage

Multiplicative scaling is your friend

[rare storm]

Bruhhh DD finally feels good now

tried out the 30 stacks node, fairly consistently at 30 now

[plucky flax]

I will try dd.

[still hearth]

Yeah but multiplicative scaling is already in bed with the good staves

[plucky flax]

Like purgatus + carapace damage against crusher.

[fading iris]

Surge RMB isn't a good opener anymore, this breaks the Palpatine Roleplay

[supple skiff]

ah man, they nerfed vets toughness shout]

[frank moat]

Sad but it was kinda nutty

[supple skiff]

and apparently a dmg buff to taged enemies? lol

dev out here trying to keep crayon eating to a minimum I see

[glossy ember]

so 25% unarmoured will fix all my problems with surge, yes?

[crimson remnant]

What are the bis perks for purgatus?

[digital narwhal]

Flak + Unyielding or Flak + Crit Chance

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[autumn grail]

Oh wow I didn't notice that Surge dose not do extra damage to armor any more ether

[fading iris]

Stamina + Sprint efficiency

[digital narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/running-running-man-gif-26341322

With 3 +Stamina Curios

[frank moat]

I’m more confused by why flak crits are the odd one out

[digital narwhal]

'Cause fuck you

That's why

[autumn grail]

I feel that right now

[frank moat]

[spice oar]

It's genuienly working as intended now and I couldn't be happier

[fading iris]

yes

[spice oar]

Means I'm quelling more aswell so I'm gonna try staff scriers with it again

[glossy ember]

based

[still hearth]

[bronze hound]

So is it surge dead then?

[digital narwhal]

It's not dead, but

[still hearth]

It's considerably worse

[digital narwhal]

it's not great

[still hearth]

Like roughly half damage

[fading iris]

this is now an critical weakspot build safeplace

[still hearth]

Most of the time

[digital narwhal]

It's not a throw pick if you know what you're doing with it but

it's not a great pick at all

[bronze hound]

half the dmge means is not dead but it is dead

[still hearth]

Ye

It's dead Jim

See you next patch

[digital narwhal]

At least my Columnus Psyker build is still as strong as ever

[bronze hound]

Good, I'm happy I enjoyed my perfect surge for half a day

[supple skiff]

wait did they change something about surge aside frim the EP fix?

[digital narwhal]

No

[fading iris]

so far

[digital narwhal]

Surge is just bad in of itself

[harsh urchin]

ya i told yall

surge without bug abusing

is just a weak weapon

[fading iris]

EP fix + Warp Rider 10% always fix + weird stuff in the body part damage

[glossy ember]

randomly hits any bodypart now

[bronze hound]

Back to void or some shit I guess

[glossy ember]

so it's worse than before

ep bug aside

[harsh urchin]

lol wow really?

[supple skiff]

lame

[autumn grail]

well they change how Surge dose damage they took ways its extra damage to armored.

[harsh urchin]

did they make purg and flamer also do that?

[supple skiff]

they better leave void the fuck alone

[harsh urchin]

or is it just surge

[digital narwhal]

If you wanna use a Staff, just use Trauma or Void

[glossy ember]

just surge because it's intended behavior for smite

once again

[ember sonnet]

Unlimited power to limited potential

[fading iris]

Surge base damage is the Trauma I`m using

[still hearth]

It's entirely possible it's meant for both but it's implemented poorly though.

[fading iris]

"LOOK AT THIS BASE DAMAGE" mob runs alway in despair

[glossy ember]

potentially yeah

[fading iris]

now we wait for Patch 15.1

[harsh urchin]

do you still get

the smite bonuses

from smite

[glossy ember]

no

[harsh urchin]

or were both fixed

[digital narwhal]

LET SMITE CRIT

[still hearth]

Like if Surge and Smite could actively hit weakspots with RMB that would be cool

[digital narwhal]

I wanna use Empathic Evasion with Smite

[still hearth]

It might also be meant just for the bounce

[digital narwhal]

but alas

[glossy ember]

thatd be huge

[digital narwhal]

it cannot crit

[azure bridge]

with the changes to smite and surge, how much of a nerf to damage is it exactly or do we not know yet?

[still hearth]

Surge it's pretty bad

Smite idk

[glossy ember]

man all i needed from them was to remove ep bug

[still hearth]

It has low base damage anyway

[glossy ember]

why did it have to be this way

[bronze hound]

It's dead, please, just pray for its soul...

[still hearth]

But they should both lose like

40-50% damage?

On average

It looks like

[azure bridge]

oh wow

thats pretty huge

[still hearth]

Idk what the ratio is

On body, limb, head

But it looks about a 1:1:1

[glossy ember]

well four limbs one head one torso

[still hearth]

And since there's 4 limbs

[glossy ember]

looks terrible to me

[still hearth]

That means you are most likely to lose damage

But it didn't seem that often to me

[fading iris]

It's all a plot to make the psykers farm god rolls in all the staffs, to keep them playing

[azure bridge]

I guess now I need to ask, does that mean that smites lost viability or simply optimality

[harsh urchin]

i dont think it matters for smite

cuz smite does 0 dps anyways

but surge might have some issues lol

[summer prairie]

smite dps is pretty good with a lot of targets, just doesn't kill fast

[woeful patio]

My beloved EP Surge Staff is no more

The Imperium weeps

[glossy ember]

it's a buff for smite since it can trigger weakpoints now

so DD shit

[digital narwhal]

Weird.
In the last couple games I've played, there's been at least one person ragging on me for using Prescience.

Like-

"+5% Crit Chance is weak, pick another Aura"

[azure bridge]

so if smite can trigger weakspots, what should i take to maximize on that interaction?

[fading iris]

I just need some duct tape and a revolver to fix surge damage problems

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

[olive ember]

eh the best aura is def the CDR but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

who gives af

[glossy ember]

these people are dumb

[digital narwhal]

Like... sir.
My Aura is for me.

[glossy ember]

i'd just say "no hablo inglès"

[digital narwhal]

If you happen to benefit, then great.

If not, then don't whine about it.

[harsh urchin]

its the same ppl complaining about lover zealot

[woeful patio]

Huh?

[harsh urchin]

LOL

[bronze hound]

Can anyone share a good build now for us the surge widows? I'm in grief

[woeful patio]

Smite triggers weak points???

[autumn grail]

I think all classes get a base +5 crit anyway with out perks

[glossy ember]

it can hit any bodypart now

[plucky flax]

Loner best aura.

[glossy ember]

randomly

[woeful patio]

that’s

Wild

Still not what I’d want for smite

[olive ember]

disgust

[woeful patio]

But it’s something

[sturdy dagger]

anyone been having issues with peril since patch

i just exploded at 75%

[glossy ember]

lmao

[digital narwhal]

No, not really

[azure bridge]

oh no

[woeful patio]

Assail Psykers have that issue all the time

[brave turret]

the devs when a space wizard can use their hands as a third weapon

"MUST NERF"

[woeful patio]

I’d suggest not listening to the whispers

[sturdy dagger]

it only happened once but literally like 75-80%

[woeful patio]

They only tell lies

[sturdy dagger]

cast once

explode

[woeful patio]

Are you using true peril?

The mod I mean

[stuck bridge]

it would be wc, but with the staff now targeting limbs it might not be worth using at all, there's 4/7 chance you do little damage

[digital narwhal]

ez Soulblaze build

[woeful patio]

I still use Surge Staff with my smite build. Warp Charges are definitely the way to go

[digital narwhal]

Use with Blazing Trauma

[bronze hound]

Yeah, just checked that out and it's out sad

[digital narwhal]

Profit

[woeful patio]

Bro didn’t get the holy Trinity smh

Can’t even afford 6 warp charges

Hate to see it

[digital narwhal]

When do you even get 6 charges?

[azure bridge]

I tend to have 6 a lot actually

[woeful patio]

End of the keystone

[azure bridge]

i take the one that gives warp charge on kill 4%

[sturdy dagger]

no?

[digital narwhal]

You know what I meant lmao

[sturdy dagger]

but ive never had this issue before

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is good with 6 warp charges

[sturdy dagger]

can happily sit at 80-90 peril with no risk

[olive ember]

imagine taking extra toughness over 6 warp charges

smh

90 toughness psyker

do it

[glossy ember]

I don't think it's a bad weapon prepatch without bug if I can average 400k damage and peak at 620~660k with a meme build. Still good and does its job of killing elites.

[woeful patio]

Rookie Mistake smh

[bronze hound]

would it be better to use this with void maybe?

[digital narwhal]

But if you want 6 charges, then this works

[glossy ember]

but well it's an era that's now gone

[woeful patio]

Surge definitely peaked with EP

I still use it though

[digital narwhal]

Blazing Trauma benefits from this build the most, and Blazing Trauma is cracked

[woeful patio]

Def not a voidstrike however

[azure bridge]

what is blazing trauma?

[digital narwhal]

Voidstrike? It's not that great of a Blazing Spirit weapon

[plucky flax]

I would also try to take perfect timing and drop soulstealer.

[digital narwhal]

Trauma Staff with Blazing Spirit

[glossy ember]

by the way surge now also randomly hit any bodypart so it's awful

just like smite

[azure bridge]

ty

[woeful patio]

So you’re saying it doesn’t deal consistently shit damage anymore?

Because it used to always target the body

[glossy ember]

no i'm saying it's even worse

[woeful patio]

But now it CAN hit the head

[glossy ember]

you get to hit limbs now

[woeful patio]

Oh

Ew

Why

[digital narwhal]

Do you know if Mettle triggers for each enemy hit by a crit Trauma blast, or just on proc?
'Cause I know it works with each shot of a crit string on my Columnus, but I dunno about Trauma.

[glossy ember]

spaghetti code

[woeful patio]

It’s like they’ve never made a game before

[stuck bridge]

my surge change idea would've been better, left click being a high damage single target bolt, right click as a weaker chain with a chance to continue jumping w/ a blessing scaling on peril

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma 1375k damage in 31 mind seems good. Build at the start
https://youtu.be/8sj-V9yVPFs

[plucky flax]

Each enemies hit. So a crit in horde will give full toughness.

[woeful patio]

No

[digital narwhal]

Pog

[woeful patio]

MY idea would have been better!!

[stuck bridge]

cant argue with that

[woeful patio]

Damn right

I’m the emperors favorite

[shell igloo]

Bro wasn't half the point of surge that you DIDN'T have to aim it?? Smdh

[stuck bridge]

cept ur idea is dumb ans stupid!!

[woeful patio]

Not like aiming is that difficult

[limpid cypress]

Prove it. Show Emprah certificate!

[stuck bridge]

yes.

[glossy ember]

cmon it wasnt shit. Was pretty decent

[stuck bridge]

itll stop giving cringe vets something to whine about

[glossy ember]

mainly cuz of the high crit

[shadow quail]

Enjoying the change to smite and truestrike

[woeful patio]

Requires 3 full charges on Auric Damnation 60% of the time to kill a gunner

[glossy ember]

what

[woeful patio]

I still enjoy it

[shell igloo]

Yeah I thought surge filled a pretty nice niche. It maybe could use a slight buff, but I like the ability to quickly kill armor without BB

[glossy ember]

you could 1 crit yellow gunners and always 1 hit black gunners

[woeful patio]

Maybe mine just has shit stats but it’s more CC than damage

[glossy ember]

yellow gunners had like 10 hp left

on a not crit

[woeful patio]

Will test with new staff

[limpid cypress]

I have a Surge staff that absolutely obliterates anything with even a little flak armor. Problem is it has basically no quell speed, but eh. It’s manageable

[digital narwhal]

Surge needs a serious damage buff

[plucky flax]

[shell igloo]

Surge (now) is supposed to be high single-target nuke with some minor cleave and CC as a bonus

[plucky flax]

[digital narwhal]

and for it's Flak n' Carapace damage values to be normalised with the rest

[glossy ember]

i think it needs a proper fix before any buffs

[woeful patio]

I agree

[glossy ember]

could use a hotfix

[woeful patio]

Good

Smite is CC

Surge WAS prior to smite release

No need for it to be both

[plucky flax]

Fs and fast hotfix is challenge level: impossible.

[glossy ember]

f

[plucky flax]

Look how long handcannon assail and surge ep was in.

[woeful patio]

Hotfix in this economy?

Never

[limpid cypress]

Surge could only target like six things so I’m not convinced it was that great of crowd control

[woeful patio]

Surge could target 3 last patch

Simply because it used smite talents for whatever reason

Still does I think

(Enfeeble might be good Iunno)

[shell igloo]

Six things per cast, but you'd spam it. It wasn't a long channel like Smite is now

[woeful patio]

Not for smite but for surge

[glossy ember]

i'd like a carapace buff, I think its flak damage is fine but i wouldn't say no to more damage

but also damage normalization

no more rng values

[digital narwhal]

Well, one shotting Scab Gunners and not Dreg Gunners is annoying

[glossy ember]

yeah it sucks u miss on like 50-100 hp without a crit

[digital narwhal]

They reworked a whole Blessing on GG specifically so they could reach such breakpoints for Dreg Gunners and Flamers etc.

So

[strong gulch]

Oof. Some people are gonna be mad.

"Removed "Slide" as a bindable input, as it did not function and it was accidentally included in a previous patch."

[glossy ember]

there is hope....

[plucky flax]

Does your staff has 80% damage and 25% flak?

[glossy ember]

77% damage i believe and 25% flak

[plucky flax]

Maybe the 3% will make it.

[digital narwhal]

[glossy ember]

78% axtually

[woeful patio]

🤓

[plucky flax]

I think mine is 80% ill test it later. I can't remember not 1 shotting dreg gunner.

[glossy ember]

[shell igloo]

Ok so just a quick test in Damnation meat grinder, my Surge ALWAYS takes 2 casts to kill gunners and 5-6 casts to kill Crushers

[woeful patio]

I definitely need a new surge as mine is currently 348(?) but it has T4 blessings and perks

[glossy ember]

yellow gunners yeah duck me up

[plucky flax]

Especially in an actual game with warp charges and perfect timing buffs.

[plucky flax]

No +25 flak

[brave fiber]

finally I can use surge with emp and smite without feeling bad

[glossy ember]

i replaced carapace with crit rate recently

but thats my staff

[shell igloo]

That's a good point, that could make the break-point

[digital narwhal]

Surge definitely needs something, but what exactly would you guys buff about it?

I know "More damage" is the obvious choice, but I'm curious about specifics

[woeful patio]

I’d make it always target body for starters

Like it used to

[brave fiber]

Damage on the chains

[woeful patio]

Chain damage 100%

[plucky flax]

Always target head.

Big damage buff.

[woeful patio]

Deadass?

[ripe yacht]

Surge staff nerf 😭

[digital narwhal]

Then Weakspot Damage would be neat :)
(Flak + Maniac would still be better)

[woeful patio]

I’d make it shoot a giant laser that instakills imo

[glossy ember]

yellow gunner was 1sh only with a crit at 6ws 5pt

for me

had barely any hp left

[brave fiber]

Genuinely think all surge needs is higher chain damage and it’s really good

[digital narwhal]

Btw, does Surge still have the +1 chain from Lightning Storm?

[plucky flax]

I'd like more chain tbh. Spread to 3 or 4 addition targets. It'll help clear shooter packs a lot faster.

[glossy ember]

-No rng on last tick, consistant
-More carapace damage
-just a smidge of flak to constantly one shot yellow gunner
-make the +1 lightning native, it's nice for the cc.

[shell igloo]

Does it actually matter where you aim now? That's not apparent to me in the meat grinder

[plucky flax]

No I was memeing. It can't headshot. But currently there's a bug where it attacks arms for no reason.

[sage salmon]

i'd surely appreciate more chains

[digital narwhal]

+50% damage buff to the main target, and then letting it chain to 3 enemies instead of just 1 would be nice

imo

[sage salmon]

it should be able to crowd control better

since, yknow
everyone is covered in steel and iron

[woeful patio]

Chain Damage would be tight. As even against grunts the chained enemies rarely die

[sage salmon]

yeah

but more chains tho

[shell igloo]

Nah, leave that to Smite. I'd rather have reliably high single-target dmg

[woeful patio]

^

Or at least single-duo

[plucky flax]

I don't mind the current chained damage. It's pretty good.

[sage salmon]

but you have better staffs for single damage

[digital narwhal]

You know what'd be neat?
Letting us hold down Surge like Smite to extend our damage on a target.

[sage salmon]

the surge staff should be a better cc weapon

[woeful patio]

Yes but also no

[sage salmon]

yeah

[digital narwhal]

Chain damage on Crits is pretty chonky tbh yeah

[uneven compass]

Same, I want surge to be the big 1-2 target high damage staff, otherwise why have smite if surge is just a CC staff?

[woeful patio]

But it’s only on crits 😦

[sage salmon]

imo bigger chains and a lil bit more damage would be helpful

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, it's not hard to Crit with Surge

It's got a Crit Bonus stat and it gets Warp Nexus

[woeful patio]

Dad never lets me crit

[sage salmon]

to clear waves better?

[digital narwhal]

You also have a +5% Crit Chance node in the tree

[woeful patio]

Says it’s not my turn yet

[stuck bridge]

my question is, why arent smite and surge swapped, isnt smite a damage ability in the actual game

[sage salmon]

wich other gun does psyker have that kills multiple enemies fast (not counting melees)

[woeful patio]

Smite isn’t a damage ability

Devs are deluded

[jolly cedar]

There needs to be a talent that lets you equip a gun and a staff

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, Surge's cast is called "Staff-Bound Smite"

[jolly cedar]

Gunstaff

[digital narwhal]

They're both Smite

[stuck bridge]

heh

[digital narwhal]

but they're just different

[woeful patio]

Surge takes smite talents

[stuck bridge]

focused through staff ig

[sage salmon]

surge feels a little underpowered

[digital narwhal]

It is underpowered

[brave fiber]

Isn’t smite bio-lightning while surge is something else?

[shell igloo]

EP+Smite is quite a lot of fun for horde clear, but IDK if it's optimal

[strong gulch]

I wonder if people with colorblindness can distinguish between the new colors for mission difficulty.

[sage salmon]

surge is channeled smite apparently
idk i didn't code the game lol

[digital narwhal]

Both are Bio-Lightning

[woeful patio]

My complaint with EP was giving smite damage instead of peril reduction

[digital narwhal]

Surge just focuses it through a Staff

[woeful patio]

I don’t use smite to clear hordes I use it to hold them still

[digital narwhal]

Staves, in-lore, are for amplification of a Psyker's power.

They channel through a Force Staff for higher effect from their powers.

Like catalysts.

[woeful patio]

Staves are a locus for Psykers to channel their energy into any form they desire in the physical realm

[near wyvern]

+Unarmoured +Flak is the way to go yeah. Doesn't fix everything but with battery helps to get 2 shots on all humans except maulers

[woeful patio]

Not sure if there’s staves that allow multiple variations of warp use though

Like is there any lore NERDS here that can confirm dual purpose staves?

Like shooting fire and lightning?

[digital narwhal]

We need a better visual indicator for Scrier's Gaze being active

Also

[bronze hound]

staves are just an instrument for psykers to look cool

[brave fiber]

where brain burst catalyst

[woeful patio]

I AGREE

Also gimme a battle staff

Lemme clock ed’s with it

[fluid aspen]

Beam staff when

[woeful patio]

True

[steel flame]

oooo fun, another screen effect for me to turn off

[digital narwhal]

Where is my "Suppression Immunity" on Scrier's Gaze?
Hadzi took heed of my idea when I mentioned it in Ogryn chat and I believe he should've pushed it as an idea if I'm reading things right, so

where is it?

[woeful patio]

Work is already done

[digital narwhal]

I want it

[woeful patio]

Just color sniper shot blue

Bam

[fluid aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-mouth-firing-my-lazer-cell-dragon-ball-z-dbz-gif-17318792

[woeful patio]

New Psyker staff

[glossy ember]

my crit rate........

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-crying-shower-sad-bathroom-gif-17172080

[digital narwhal]

Well, at least we can use Columnus IAG in place of Surge Staff for quickly deleting Elites until Surge Staff gets a buff

[woeful patio]

Hmmmmm

No

[fading iris]

Guess who just did a mission on the new map without talents because forgot the vet reset had to pull my psyker energy

[woeful patio]

I don’t think so

Surge Stan’s Unite!!!

[glossy ember]

wym u have it, it's called dodge on crit

[fluid aspen]

I just enjoy bowling with the Voidstrike

[digital narwhal]

Yeah but I want Suppression Immunity for single shot n' burst weapons

Like Revolver, Infantry Lasguns, Headhunters etc.

:(

[woeful patio]

2 Bad

Hadron said no

[steel flame]

well if you just take empathic evasion you dont have to worry about suppression cause nothin can shoot you anyways

[digital narwhal]

I mean

It's easier said than done if not using an automatic weapon

It's harder to achieve with single shots and burst weapons

[glossy ember]

grond have u seen my meme clip

[digital narwhal]

Don't think so

[glossy ember]

with crit on surge

[west stream]

Master the laspistol

[near wyvern]

Will be good enough, plus run True Aim, those ticks that do very little damage will still stack up True Aim for you if they hit head

[west stream]

And none shall touch you

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message behold

[woeful patio]

Heavy or….

[glossy ember]

[glossy ember]

having to get true aim

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait

Ye

I did see

[fluid aspen]

Fellow ultrawide enjoyer

[digital narwhal]

Anyway, here's why Columnus > Surge

Plus, as we know, every Psykanium clip translates 1 to 1 into a real game

[woeful patio]

He’s right

Dammit

How can surge compete with that

Filthy Primitive Bullets

[digital narwhal]

I do love my Columnus though

[fluid aspen]

btw how the hell do you guys use BB/BR in higher difficulties when there's like 15 specialists and elites up at any given moment

[digital narwhal]

Use Shield or Shriek

and then use EP BR

simple as

[stuck bridge]

i simply used to explode them with surge

[supple skiff]

so did we get a new map or just the one new mission

[digital narwhal]

New mission in a new zone

Probably more comin' in Part 2

[brave turret]

im still sad about the assail nerf

[fluid aspen]

Yeah this is all I could manage. 1-2 BRs and then I'm back on a sword or staff because the horde is closing in

[digital narwhal]

It's fine tbh

[supple skiff]

alright thats what I expected

[digital narwhal]

Just means you're encouraged to switch back and forth now

[brave turret]

pyskers are the one class that should be able to use spooky spave magic as a third weapon

[plucky flax]

I don't like this new vet tree.

[supple skiff]

mission is pretty great

[woeful patio]

Yeah, but not their only weapon

[supple skiff]

pretty heavy vermintide vide in the bvrewery

[woeful patio]

Press 1 or 2 PEASANT

[digital narwhal]

And they can
But it's not their only weapon

Plus, Assail crutching was teaching new players bad habits

[fluid aspen]

Anyone else getting absolutely shit on by ||all the gunners sitting in the upper floors|| on the last part of the new mission?

[woeful patio]

The noble house of Brain Burst stands above you

[digital narwhal]

No.
Just kill them 4head

[brave turret]

it was the opposite for me

shitload of gunners in the middle of the room

[digital narwhal]

[fluid aspen]

I was running Assail in that mission and nobody was dealing with them, just full auto beaming me across the entire room

[woeful patio]

EP BB is awesome but I wish you could gain EP stacks with BB

As you’re filling the criteria

[fluid aspen]

I guess

[supple skiff]

you do

[digital narwhal]

^

Overpowering Souls is your friend

[supple skiff]

granted you burn a stack

so you need 1 already to stay afloat

[fluid aspen]

Really wish Overpowering Souls got limited to only with Blitz but also triggered on Specialists

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, just kill an Elite and then snowball from there

[woeful patio]

Smh

So it’s granting me the stack then consuming it

[supple skiff]

yeah

[fluid aspen]

No it's consuming one then giving you a new one

[woeful patio]

🙏 emperor grant me patience

[supple skiff]

^

[woeful patio]

If I have 0 stacks and BB an elite

[supple skiff]

you can chain packs

[woeful patio]

I end with no stacks

[spice oar]

lmao the bug is fixed and we a support class only now

[woeful patio]

Unless they fixed it in this patch

[digital narwhal]

I haven't noticed this tbh

[woeful patio]

Maybe I’m just built different?

Built wrong

[supple skiff]

pretty sure you get a stack

ill test rn

[digital narwhal]

Built worse

[woeful patio]

I never did

[digital narwhal]

💀

[eager mantle]

Skill issue

[spice oar]

no

[woeful patio]

That’s why I swapped to 4% chance of EP on kill

[fluid aspen]

Also just having Charged Up gives you a lot of wiggle room with EP stacks

[woeful patio]

Because elites didn’t gimme any

[supple skiff]

finish with a stack

[woeful patio]

Wtfffff

[spice oar]

thats what im saying

[fluid aspen]

Also when are we getting base BR cast time reduced by 50% so it's as fast as atm with EP

[woeful patio]

Never

We are meant to languish

[supple skiff]

with scryer up with kinetic resonance you can speed clear rager packs

[woeful patio]

Yeah but ragers scary

Not want to be close

[eager mantle]

Scrier's Gaze/Revolver/Dueling Sword/Assail though when I roll into an open room with gunners for days I do miss that shield

[supple skiff]

BB dodge back slide baby

[eager mantle]

Dueling sword special attack knocks them back. Can't say the same about nurgle blessed ones though

[woeful patio]

Are you implying I’d use anything other than a force sword?

You stain my honor

[fluid aspen]

Can you get Deflector on Dueling Sword?

[woeful patio]

No

[fluid aspen]

RIP

[supple skiff]

I use to be force sword or nothing too

[woeful patio]

Gods that would be baller though

[supple skiff]

but mk dueling sword is something

[woeful patio]

My man

[fluid aspen]

Deflector is amazing

[covert ermine]

dunno how you kill elites with biolighting

[eager mantle]

Listen man...I was ride or dying the force sword but now I rolled a good Dueling sword and I'm not looking back from that heavy attack

[woeful patio]

You are weak

Succumbed to temptation

I will not stray from the path

[fluid aspen]

You don't. Smite is for CC not killing

[supple skiff]

I still run my illsi

[woeful patio]

TAINTED

BEGONE

[eager mantle]

The only reason I'm hating it, is that this fancy sword looks like ass with my raggedy ass cape chest piece

[woeful patio]

Force Swords need more skins that aren’t ruined by camo

[ornate hamlet]

Who has given into the powers of chaos in here???

[fluid aspen]

Fashion issue

[supple skiff]

they give me a force 2 hander and IM never going back

[covert ermine]

saw here how people burn stacks of ragers with it but i mostly just stagger entire population of hive city

[buoyant rapids]

[ornate hamlet]

Weapon customization mod
Problem solved

[woeful patio]

Dual Force Daggers?

[eager mantle]

No and I will say that's the only thing that makes me come back go Force every now and then

[supple skiff]

im thinking claymore

[woeful patio]

Breaks skins used by teammates tho

[covert ermine]

but i dont want to be a support i want rip and tear stuff

[supple skiff]

but wouldnt say not to falchions

[woeful patio]

Can’t even view weapon skins in commissary

[ornate hamlet]

YOU

[fluid aspen]

Yeah I got a really nice Illisi which was my first encounter with Deflector. Still need to get a better blessing instead of Blazing Spirit but I have nothing interesting unlocked

[ornate hamlet]

It's clientside anyway so

[woeful patio]

Yes but I wanna see my teammates drip

[ornate hamlet]

Damn

[supple skiff]

you know whats criminal

[woeful patio]

Weapon locks

[ornate hamlet]

You can always do the funny and make their guns cursed

[supple skiff]

ragers having 48hp left after a single BB in damnation

[woeful patio]

AGREED

[supple skiff]

dev trying to keep us down fr

[eager mantle]

I like the mk v but damn...the deimos with the force push feels cooler

[woeful patio]

Deimos with Uncanny fucks

[ornate hamlet]

Even with EP?

[woeful patio]

Destroys crushers

[supple skiff]

no

ep and your good

[ornate hamlet]

Bet

[woeful patio]

L+H on Power Insta halves if not 2/3

[fluid aspen]

Yeah I used the Deimos before this, really miss the charge attack but prefer the light attack chain on the Illisi

[shell igloo]

I've been loving EP+BB in damnation, especially with the guarantee charge on elite kill

Just chain-kill elites for no peril

[woeful patio]

No love for Obscuris

Shame

This is a Deimos Illisi community

[hasty pier]

EP BB is just wonderful

I wish there was a talent to reduce ability cooldown from %chance soulblaze kill

[supple skiff]

obscuris walked so the other two could run

[hasty pier]

Because I'd drop WC for EP in a heartbeat then

[eager mantle]

Rejecting magic, return to lead. 2 shotting crushers with revolver. Assail for the trash

[woeful patio]

I wish there was a talent so BB would prioritize specials and elites instead of the 300+ pox walkers in front of them

[fluid aspen]

At that point might as well just play Zealot instead

[shell igloo]

Gunker is an abomination in the eyes of my Beloved

[woeful patio]

I’m beloved

I agree

[hasty pier]

Assail is definitely for trash.

Wait you meant trash for enemies?

[woeful patio]

What

Bro this is a BB chat

[hasty pier]

Exactly

[woeful patio]

Ogryn channel is 3 down

[fluid aspen]

Just use your sword for trash

[eager mantle]

Cmon guys assail still does its job.

[ornate hamlet]

Tag them first? It's what I do and it prioritizes them

[hasty pier]

Assail is training wheels

[ornate hamlet]

Get sacrificed to the throne

[eager mantle]

I do. Throw out all my assail charges, swap to sword

[shell igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

No they meant that you take Assail and put it in the trash where it belongs

[woeful patio]

Your breastmilk formula was corpse starch

And it shows

[eager mantle]

It was. I only really used BB until lvl 30 then I tried out smite and assail

[woeful patio]

Assail should be REMOVED and replaced with BB^2

[supple skiff]

I can play darts irl fuck assail I wanna pop brain cases

[ornate hamlet]

Smite is for when I use CC, and assail was boring to use, no challenge whatsoever

[woeful patio]

Smite saves games

[hasty pier]

Now I'm going to be contrairian and say it shouldn't

Because training wheels are still good for a playerbase

[eager mantle]

If BB charge had shorter charge with smaller enemy hp then I'd be eating that BB up

[ornate hamlet]

Absolutely, sibling