psyker-class

[slate sun]

assail was rather useless on higher diff already, now they just made it a trap for noobs

[royal granite]

agreed

assail was fine on higher difficulties

[gloomy magnet]

😭

[bitter escarp]

assail up to 5s charge, you get charges on melee kill, 2 charges on elite or specialist melee kill

hard to say with the prevalence of the rending handcannon bug

[orchid nest]

I think it did, atheneum even shows the same 5% tooltip for both and I remember people discussing how it still didn't give specialist damage. not a big deal if I'm wrong though, whatever

[royal ibex]

https://fxtwitter.com/WizardryPosting/status/1724032030436999380 average scryers gaze psyker

[royal granite]

a common issue i observed was psykers getting carried through lower diffs with assail, hopping into auric maelstrom and getting obliterated

[deep whale]

Stop using assail on maulers. It's fine. It's for killing shooters

[glossy ember]

It's how i play too but issue is instead of being a damage spike it becomes more a situational tool where you need specific enemies where you hit BPs at 0 warp charges and some PTs to immediately get warp charges back near instantly.
(Shot)gunners, flamers, trapper/bomber/sniper in packs are the best moment to pop scrier imo

[bitter escarp]

yeah I'm not happy about that but you do get them back fairly reliably

[slate sun]

hence why its a noob trap

[bitter escarp]

it's also stupidly obnoxious on low levels

[royal granite]

competent assail users did fine on au maelstrom

[bitter escarp]

played a few rounds with mates new to the game

assail psyker just means they don't get to play

[glossy ember]

doesn't stop me from loving scrier to death tho

[royal ibex]

the trick is to only use it sparringly, either to thin the horde a bit, or to build up peril for warp rider, but with it before it was just too damne asy to spam

[umbral helm]

it also depends on RNG a little bit at the end of the day because occasionally that 4% chance to get a charge will just pop off during a horde

[bitter escarp]

this is true, but "competent" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

[frank moat]

They didn’t fix Krieg Psyker’s glove despite it being acknowledged on the bug reporter

[slate sun]

well I never seen one and I sure ain't one, but I have to believe you've seen it work

[royal granite]

low priority bug probably

[bitter escarp]

it's like how all the Vet mains turned out to be shithouse at melee because all they knew was OG power sword

[slate sun]

surely not better than smite though right?

[glossy ember]

oh yeah somtimes that shit goated lmao, getting to 6 warp stacks 4 seconds into scrier is

[bitter escarp]

when the kit element is so overtuned it hampers skill development

[glossy ember]

0 dps loss

only big pp

[royal ibex]

i run the 10% on soulblaze procs for stacks because purgatus is fun

[frank moat]

Modless Darktide makes me barf jeez

All my weapon organisation gone

[royal ibex]

hit the funny sus shriek then 2 seconds later get 4 stacks

[dim parrot]

hope my backup loadout is still there

[deep whale]

@frank moat did you rerun the bat file?

[mossy canopy]

I wish they hadn't made the spend for CDR a forced part of warp charges now

[charred parcel]

How comes? I never used mods for this game, but I am also rather new

[frank moat]

Not yet, thought Pygex said he had issues with some mods and I just wanted to jump in game

[royal ibex]

could be worse, the ammo passive vets used to have as basekit is still like 20 points deep

[frank moat]

Mostly just because I’ve got a gorillion staff dupes that I was distinguishing from each other with names and favourite icons and now I cant see what’s what at a glance

[royal ibex]

oh man that shits gotta suck. hope its fixed soon

[frank moat]

It’s not actually that bad but

Oh yea it’ll be sorted as soon as I run the mods bat

I just like complaining

[charred parcel]

only thing I saw from the patch is that the infinite pain will continue. oh well

[summer prairie]

The only mod that didn't work for me was better buff management

[potent echo]

also creature spawner is nice for testing things or training

[charred parcel]

(that is the warp battery penance and trying to do that with randoms on malice)

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/piddel-piddel-meme-piddel-gaming-piddel-pain-pain-gif-26176777

[potent echo]

did they fix warpcharges with gaze

[royal ibex]

[potent echo]

lmaoooo

[coarse bane]

Did they say when they're giving PC players that free bundle?

[potent echo]

end november

[royal ibex]

im just glad they fixed DD not marking targets, i knew damn well it still worked but tryign to find the right guy with 3 seconds left and you're out of assail charges is suffering

[potent echo]

one of the random bruisers on the screen

[royal ibex]

'throw 5 into a horde, still no stacks somehow'

[potent echo]

still no DD on specialists

so bad for some events that only spawn horde + specialist

[charred parcel]

4% is 4%, some times you just don't win

[royal ibex]

it is what it is

[potent echo]

is warp rider actually fixed?

[royal ibex]

yeah its no longer a free 10% damage

actually scales properly with peril

[potent echo]

welp

[bitter escarp]

old warp unleashed was that way tho

[royal ibex]

hey im a dedicated scryers fan now, it doesnt affect me lmao

[potent echo]

that was probably bugged too

[royal ibex]

somethign something spaghetti code something something overtuned on release. take your pick

[potent echo]

at least patches are coming out and things are getting fixed, finally feels kind of like a live service wow

[royal ibex]

only took a year. the obese megaladon experience

[potent echo]

i really think the first year was early access

[charred parcel]

isn't year 1 always a dumpster fire with these games?

[royal ibex]

wonder what the 'those who played even earlier will get more cosmetics' will be. watch it be a matching armor set for the beta helmets

[potent echo]

i guess so, but some games dont get a redemption arc

[royal ibex]

idk, remnant 2 kind of released stupidly strong.

'dlc soon lets fucking go i get to go full shadow wizard money gang'

[potent echo]

that wasnt a live service though

[royal ibex]

oh true, then uhhh

fuck you got me there

[charred parcel]

unironically GTA5 once they started doing online content

they just fell off a cliff years later

[potent echo]

isnt it still huge and making alot of money

[charred parcel]

yes but the content quality is meh

[royal ibex]

sunk cost fallacy at work i bet

[potent echo]

its the market

[charred parcel]

it's huge because it's GTA and nothing like it exists

[royal ibex]

i say with 4k hours in destiny 2

[potent echo]

if they are okay with trash, they will get more

[royal ibex]

'since steam move, fuck knows how much from battle.net'

[potent echo]

damn

[charred parcel]

also Guild Wars 2 is a decent example of doing okay, but that game has ebbs and flows and it's an MMO

[royal ibex]

meanwhile my most played game is ff14 at 7.6k

[charred parcel]

rookie numbers

[royal ibex]

i play on an EU server and have been raid logging for the past 3 months

[charred parcel]

I play 14 and GW2 actively because I have nothing else

[royal ibex]

im waiting for next fanfest hoping for the new mage to be interesting, and fem hrothgar to not look fugly

[royal ibex]

hear GW2 is alright

[charred parcel]

frothgar

[royal ibex]

please im catgirl atm with neco arc glamour and voice 5 to fuck with my raid group

[charred parcel]

good choice

also my total play time is 334 days and 17 hours

I started this toon in 5.05

[royal ibex]

oh im casual as fuck, no idea what it is but doubt its that long

been playing proper since final coil

[deep whale]

Can anyone in-game please say if scriers is unbugged on the finesse stacks and warp battery

[rugged halo]

is scrier's gaze even worth using?

[left mirage]

wait, it was bugged

[cobalt granite]

Wait they still havent fixed the EP bug?

Wtf?

[left mirage]

absolutely imo

[royal ibex]

my dear sweet sibling, it is fucking hilarious

[charred parcel]

what bug?

[left mirage]

the surge EP smite bug?

[royal ibex]

with surge staff? yeah fixed

[cobalt granite]

+125% damage on surge

[deep whale]

@rugged halo yes, you mulch through mixed hordes with it

[left mirage]

they mentioned fixing it

[charred parcel]

ah that, I never used it

[cobalt granite]

Emperor be praised

Finally

[cobalt granite]

I wish everyone could say so

[left mirage]

so is warp rider ass now?

[royal ibex]

i ran it with another psyker who had it with a columus IAG. we melted monstrosities in 20 seconds. a DH lasted 10 seconds

[charred parcel]

I just swap between puragtus and my trusty handcannon in the hope of keeping stacks alive

[left mirage]

like breakpoint wise

[charred parcel]

neither helps

[royal ibex]

just needs buildup, scryers enjoyers will still find it useful

[left mirage]

ye, but if im not using scrier's then i ditch it

[royal ibex]

p. much

tbf having a free 10% damage with no investment other than a skill point seemed a bit much

hell the vet aura got buffed and even thats still only 5%

[potent echo]

yea but also fireteam on vet got buffed to 5%

meanwhile psyker 5% elite aura lmao

[royal ibex]

i mean, yeah?

[left mirage]

better than fucking 3%

still worthless considering ammo refund exists

[potent echo]

psyker aura is so bad now i dont even know

[charred parcel]

5% probably still doesn't beat the ammo dispenser

[left mirage]

you never really took the elite damage

[royal ibex]

10% CDR or 5% crit chance is good

[left mirage]

its either 5% crit which is as good as a base node but also buffs your tea

team*

[charred parcel]

I took the elite damage because I didn't know what else

[potent echo]

yea i just meant the elite damage

its just a worse vet aura

[left mirage]

or 10%cdr (that stacks with the base 7.5% cdr lol)

[royal ibex]

yeah its odd huh.

what would you make it be to stand out? 10%? 7.5?

[left mirage]

id make it elite/spec 8%

[potent echo]

i'd but warp rider in an aura instead

edge yourself, but for the team

[royal ibex]

wait its decent.

[left mirage]

apparently the elite/spec aura doesnt even work on specialists?

that's even funnier

[potent echo]

yea its only elites

[left mirage]

what a joke lmao

[charred parcel]

good meme

[royal ibex]

i still love how thats just how we refer to peril management. its great

[onyx sentinel]

what does this mean chat

[plucky flax]

Nooooooo

[left mirage]

its actually worse than the 3% damage aura

[pale pilot]

yeah handcannon apparently got a stealth fix

[left mirage]

unsure since im not ingame, might be difficulty bars

like they're recolored and shit

[pale pilot]

so it doesn't apply to melee either

[potent echo]

no more padding scoreboards for psykers

[left mirage]

sadge

[royal ibex]

difficulty bars on missions how have colours on them, dw about it

[charred parcel]

there are scoreboards?

[left mirage]

mod

[charred parcel]

ah

[frank moat]

I'd rather we got the mask with hood variant, but the pants are probably the most unique set we've got.

[left mirage]

i slapped a 2x and 4x scope on my IAGs and laspistol respectively

[charred parcel]

I am usually just glad to make it through, which on heresy is very rare

[royal ibex]

iirc the pants are just the krieg ones but blue

[plucky flax]

Rip me and my crutches.

[left mirage]

and that simple change has improved my consistency

god bless mods

[plucky flax]

Time to get carried by zealot and vet.

[pale pilot]

anyways here's to handcannon's metrics getting dunked and maybe they buff the gun itself

[frank moat]

The Krieg ones have quilted knees but reuse Zealot's penance boots with the spikes on the left foot

[potent echo]

4x scope for laspistol wtf

[left mirage]

the best part is it gets held sideways

[charred parcel]

brain burst is always painfully slow

[royal ibex]

ah fair enough, still dont hate it. the lack of a hood is a bit sad but we have so many with it already i can kind of see why they didnt put it on

[dim parrot]

I never want 2 be carried by a vet

[left mirage]

#psyker-class message

[potent echo]

how to be carried by vet when they standing still lmao

[royal ibex]

hold right click to prep a jimmy nutron brain blast, watch your life pass before you eyes, 15 years pass, its only halfway

[left mirage]

and then when you try to left click to kill something it sets your progess back 10% so you wait even longer

god i hate it

[frank moat]

I'd be a little miffed if I'd bought the Krieg legs

[royal ibex]

or it just doesnt wanna work on what you highlight

[potent echo]

feet

[royal ibex]

[charred parcel]

I unironically wouldn't mind playing missions with only brain blast even with the charge times, but others tend to kill my targets way before I can

[left mirage]

just let it ignore poxwalkers and stalkers

[frank moat]

Yea honestly the mask clips like an MF with the giant collar on the hoods

[left mirage]

allow it to pop shooters / elites / specs

[frank moat]

Took me a while just to get a screenshot where my head was angled up for that

[royal ibex]

the psyker drip experience

[potent echo]

that sounds like a really cool use for rmb

[native plover]

Alright siblings what we think of this patch generally?

[royal ibex]

assail spam is fucking dead 🦀

[left mirage]

what's the regen timer with the cdr talent

[potent echo]

is still alive but like barely

[left mirage]

around 2s?

[potent echo]

isnt it 2 seconds lol

like the base assail

[royal ibex]

3s base now

[left mirage]

base went from 2 to 3

[charred parcel]

I strongly disliked assail as is so it doesn'T affect me lol

[left mirage]

so the 30% brings it down to 2

[native plover]

Isn't that a good thing? Too many only knew that and not melee

[potent echo]

now they will not have that and no melee either

[left mirage]

from uh, 1.4 up to 2

[royal ibex]

yeah im glad, means its a true 'oh fuck thats a horde, please fuck off' option

[dim parrot]

I guess so, doesn't affect me cause I only used it 2 snipe snipers and gunners

[royal ibex]

rather than a 'ah sick i got a second gun'

[left mirage]

that's kinda nice, its a true swap and burn ability now

[native plover]

Steps on the toes of smite little now though

[left mirage]

nah

smite is CC

[near wyvern]

so new cosmetics are not in yet?

[frank moat]

Holy moly someone posted the Ogryn headgear in drip chat and its 🥵

[left mirage]

people have been posting screenies

[royal ibex]

i mean smites more a 'im going to lock down this entire horde and stop the charging mutant, please everyone deal with that shit, ogryn get off the shield'

[near wyvern]

don't see a thing in my inventory

[left mirage]

unsure if distributed

[frank moat]

Not yet

[royal ibex]

end of the month, im assuming thats the cosmetic mod showing them off

[near wyvern]

probs in the game files but not unlocked yet

[native plover]

Then how did they get the pictures?

[frank moat]

But they appear in Check All Cosmetics

#psyker-class message

[native plover]

So they done already patched them in but won't release?

[near wyvern]

so it seems

[frank moat]

Yup

[royal ibex]

i mean theres a bunch of cosmetics/skins in the game files not available

[native plover]

That's stupid

[potent echo]

the cutoff point is 17nov

[frank moat]

The Psyker shoulder is fucked texture wise so they aren't finished

[potent echo]

so its not over yet

[royal ibex]

theres also a frame that looks like its froma vt2 event of some sort we cant get yet

[frank moat]

The decals on the shoulder are floating way off of the model and overlay on everything else

[royal ibex]

going off to see our Beloved

[deep whale]

@frank moat sounds ready to ship to me

[surreal jetty]

is maintainence going on rn?

[native plover]

Just make us aquire it when we log in up until the 17th instead? Why not that, much better way of doing it

[potent echo]

anyone see the new map

please let it not spawn with sedition

[frank moat]

Flashbacks

[royal ibex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i cant wait to wake up tomorrow after raid to try out the new mission and see it on t2 difficulty

[potent echo]

suddenly all the level 500s in uprising

[swift warren]

all missions time out in 13 minutes, hopefully all new nodes is the new map

[near wyvern]

anyone saying warp rider fix is not working is not correct, it is now 0% at 0% peril

[potent echo]

what if its 10% at 1%

[bitter escarp]

goofy considering the predecessor skill didn't need fixing either

[potent echo]

they stated it was never their intention to give 10% at 0%

[spice veldt]

was it just the one recent mission I had or is hishock troopers fucking insane now

[silk hawk]

its fine boys surge still rocks

not that much as before but still xD

[dim parrot]

with warp ?

[silk hawk]

ye

[dim parrot]

alrighty

was my backup plan anyways ^^

[potent echo]

they buffed the conflict director

nerfed health stations

[spice veldt]

proper non-stop special waves

i had such a good team that managed to kill two daemonhosts that were basically at maximum aggro because they took so much damage from the specials/gunners

[dim parrot]

wait dm can get damaged from other mobs?

[spice veldt]

ye

[dim parrot]

interesting

[spice veldt]

enemies deal friendly fire to each other

non-elite ranged enemies usually try to avoid it

but the others just go ham with it

[charred parcel]

wait, hi shock trooper wasn't proper before?

[dim parrot]

lol

[charred parcel]

oh god

[potent echo]

sniper vs bulwarks and crushers lol

[spice veldt]

if there's a gunner between you and an alert dh, you'd best believe that it'll put it to maximum aggro

shock trooper before was whatevs

[dim parrot]

wait wait

[idle bay]

Anyone getting manequin Vets who don;t want to move and loose stacks ? 🙂 (On my work can't check RN)

[spice veldt]

cuz everyone's power level got buffed

[lunar hollow]

did they make the ai director more unhinged AGAIN

[dim parrot]

so it can even get triggered?

[spice veldt]

yes

basically non-stop special waves

[charred parcel]

well it was tough for me lol

[lunar hollow]

pog

[spice veldt]

and hordes with elite spawns

[lunar hollow]

well not pog i hate specials

[potent echo]

all my easy pub games

destroyed

[native plover]

The enemies can trigger daemonhosts?

[spice veldt]

the hishock game I just had

[near wyvern]

that warp rider change is quite a nerf TBH

[spice veldt]

daemonhosts have a damage threshold that they wake up at last time I checked

[near wyvern]

tha'ts a flat out -10% damage done

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt did u see they made the buff icons brighter

[near wyvern]

for many builds

[spice veldt]

ye

[idle bay]

I will have 2 waves packed with elites over one wave packed with speciasl.... too much extra noise

[lunar hollow]

weird change

[spice veldt]

i noticed catch a breath and the like being brighter

i supposed a shift in their UI art direction

[lunar hollow]

all across the board they made it brighter looks like

[near wyvern]

the icons are so weird

too much exposure

[spice veldt]

i'm going to take executioner's stance just to deal with the specials

god damn

[lunar hollow]

bolter vet can one tap crit headshot a reaper again

and a mutie

[potent echo]

what why

nodes?

[lunar hollow]

yes

[glossy ember]

flaming shriek?

there shouldn't be a change anyway to ws users

[glossy ember]

Saves a point for low peril builds mayhaps?...

probably still a mandatory pick on every build

[dim parrot]

sadly dont have room for flamin shriek with my new build :c

I know some siblings will be disappointed

[rugged halo]

well, looks like voidstrike staffs are the new meta for taking out elites

[royal ibex]

can you still 1 shot a mutie with deimos second heavy?

[potent echo]

damn new cinematic

story????

[dim parrot]

noooooooooooooooooo

[glossy ember]

||join the scrier side ||

[left mirage]

always have been tbh

[near wyvern]

all gunker builds take a hit here

[royal ibex]

forgo space magic, become one with the second ammendment enjoyers

[rugged halo]

surge staff's just dont have the same kick anymore. takes 2 strikes to kill trapper with surge now. where as void strike does it in about one hit while also hitting more than one target

[dim parrot]

I might actually

[wet belfry]

This patch didnt really change alot for psyker more then nerfing them as a baseline

[glossy ember]

arent gunkers at above average peril due to peril gzn from scrier

[left mirage]

you're not always in scry

[dim parrot]

I hate that

[left mirage]

it went from 10% always and up to 20%

to 0% up to 20%

[dim parrot]

void is so boring :c

[potent echo]

they nerfed pub psykers, all the pub games are going to be so much harder

[left mirage]

to be as effective pre-nerf you have to be in 50% peril all the time

[rugged halo]

same really.

[glossy ember]

damn

[left mirage]

its kinda fucked

[wet belfry]

10% less damage is rough

[glossy ember]

guess you gotta spam ur blitz more as gunker then

during downtimes

[left mirage]

catch me surging the air

[rugged halo]

wtf is this garbage.

[glossy ember]

what

[near wyvern]

deimos one shot requires now +maniac and +special

[left mirage]

actually wait does this fuck up the illisi oneshots

[near wyvern]

to work at no buffs

[glossy ember]

are you running EP

[left mirage]

oh god

[rugged halo]

why as a lvl 30 with 370+ gear do i still get 300 weapons. its dumb as fuck.

[potent echo]

time to press that special button

[left mirage]

my illinois force sword nooo

[dim parrot]

wait what?

[left mirage]

what about duelling 4

[left mirage]

illisi with uncanny strike and slaughterer can oneshot headshot stuff

[dim parrot]

yes

[left mirage]

idk if it'll still be able to now

[dim parrot]

[left mirage]

because universal -10% dmage from warp rider nerf

[dim parrot]

they better not massacre my boy

[ornate hamlet]

every dark has its tide

today we found the dark

[near wyvern]

it could not do the one shot without buffs before patch so it's definitely not doing it now without buffs

[potent echo]

tide is down there

[left mirage]

rip

what about illisi, is it ok

[bitter escarp]

keep disconnecting from server lmao

[dim parrot]

are psykers the new old vets now?

[left mirage]

vets are still figuring out the tree changes

it might be worse off for them now lmao

[orchid nest]

kind of wondering if a near perfect one can still do it with maniac. mine gets in the 3800 range or something with t3 maniac locked in and isn't perfect. I'd have to log in again to double check exactly what it was and can't at the moment

[potent echo]

roughly how much peril do you need to be at?

[deep whale]

Guess you're running scriers now

[left mirage]

i already was using gunpsyk a lot

[near wyvern]

you need 4k damage, let me know how it goes so I can put it on Atheneum

[slate aurora]

oygrn weapons when?

[dim parrot]

do u have 2 run gun psyker for sciers?

[left mirage]

give ogryn power claws

[dim parrot]

cause I would hate that

[rugged halo]

in #ogryn-class

[potent echo]

you can run scrier with anything

[slate aurora]

thought spark heds had gavs guns

[left mirage]

if you're brave enough

[slate aurora]

hat man said so

[glossy ember]

based

[dim parrot]

why? :c

[left mirage]

pop goes the weasel

[dim parrot]

I will never run gun with psyker honestly

[glossy ember]

peril management harder with staff/force sword

[night crater]

Show me how it's run with combustion staff

[dim parrot]

If I wanna run a gun on psyker, I could just play any other class lmao

[potent echo]

whats combustion staff

[glossy ember]

wtf is combustion staff

[potent echo]

purgatus?

trauma?

[glossy ember]

sienna main

[potent echo]

sienna doesnt have a combustion staff

[left mirage]

yeah that's the funny part

[near wyvern]

depends a bit from the sword, I have one that needs around 30%

[glossy ember]

oh yeah conflag staff

[potent echo]

understandable

[glossy ember]

i think

someone here isrunning purg + scrier btw

idr who

[left mirage]

madlad

[night crater]

Hang on, I meant trauma lol

[near wyvern]

lukcily I do have these toothpicks in my arsenal so I can always just pick one that is meta in given patch xD

[left mirage]

but i can see the vision, more crit = more fire

[glossy ember]

oh idk who runs trauma scrier

i run surge scrier

havent heard of a void scrier either

[dim parrot]

will also be my choice I think

unless u have 2 spent way to much points with sciers

[charred parcel]

I just stick with bubble and be a noob :D

[idle bay]

By the Epmra - 530-550 range toothpicks...

[glossy ember]

uhh lemme get u my build

[dim parrot]

fyi before I played(assail for snipe, illisi for horde and surge for unlimited power funny moments)

[potent echo]

uh i think scrier still doesnt work with warpcharges

[glossy ember]

I recently removed the toughness damage reduction from final scrier node and took malefic momentum

[glossy ember]

no cdr but you get peril reduction and damage

[potent echo]

pain

[glossy ember]

as long as you build the charges back fast

[carmine agate]

What we gettin in new patch?

[potent echo]

nothing

except nerfs

[charred parcel]

losing things instead

[potent echo]

for psyker anyway

[dim parrot]

wait, do u keep the charges with sciers?

[potent echo]

no

[dim parrot]

[potent echo]

i wouldnt do it unless you really believe

[dim parrot]

I wanna commit peril overload

[charred parcel]

imagine anything letting you keep the stacks lol

[orchid nest]

@near wyvern alright so I tried to find the best base one I could without any maniac roll and this 77, 80, 79 one hits for 3209

[idle bay]

I see a bright side of Warp Rider "fix" - it lost autopick status for me! Free point to use elsewehere!

[dim parrot]

ep did

honestly that was the main reason why I liked it

[potent echo]

value for gunkers

[lucid horizon]

can someone send the new skins in the shop

[orchid nest]

I guess I can throw maniac on it just for the test

[idle bay]

Unless we get Plasma - i'm not using guns on psyker 🙂 So not for me 🙂

[potent echo]

did anyone see the new cinematic

[carmine agate]

Do we get the new cozmetics alrdy?

[potent echo]

red plasma

[charred parcel]

I like revolver on my psyker so I can at least compete with the killspeed on specials against everyone else

[grim halo]

[charred parcel]

which means I am not using G at all the entire mission but ehh

not allowed to use F either so why even have a kit

[dim parrot]

same ngl

[potent echo]

just like pick a real combat ability that isnt scrier

[royal ibex]

Never

[near wyvern]

that should be just enough with +maniac 25

[dim parrot]

lol

[orchid nest]

yeah I'll put maniac on it just to be sure if this loading screen ever ends

[potent echo]

i hope scrier gets a pass in part2

[royal ibex]

That scryers coke got me acting unwise

[potent echo]

the school bus takes forever now that there are so many kids waiting

[near wyvern]

scriers needs to:

• start CD already while in it
• be able to be toggled again after 1 second has passed to turn it off

[bleak tulip]

that sounds fun

[royal ibex]

Being able to turn it off would be a nice change

[charred parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-gif-14614577136491231013

all of the psykers now

[near wyvern]

no we are not in danger

[bleak tulip]

not executioner's; thats still gross vet stuff

[potent echo]

probably not turn it off since its the entire reason

[near wyvern]

breakpoints just got tighter

[proven stirrup]

Well shit I was just downloading something else to play and here comes the patch

[near wyvern]

which means that crafting shit is more painful now again

[charred parcel]

with the players I witness in publics every day

there is a lot of danger

[near wyvern]

the assail nerf is a good thing that should have been done already on previous patch

[charred parcel]

(but I also don't touch Aurics or Damnation)

[potent echo]

still waiting for the true darkpatchtide which is crafting update

[proven stirrup]

Given people constantly spout "You can play on damnation in white gear", the gear being harder to max out is moot

[bleak tulip]

how did BPs change there wasnt many weapon changes and I didnt see health changes?

[potent echo]

i mean you can

[whole oxide]

warp rider nerf

[potent echo]

doesnt mean you'll have a high winrate

[glossy ember]

You build em back fast by killing low hp elites

[royal ibex]

I'm scared for damnation pubs

[charred parcel]

I guess I should try Damnation once some time and see if it'S even worse than pub heresy. if so I'll just go back to permanent Malice

[proven stirrup]

No one is losing missions because of a lack of breakpoints

[near wyvern]

warp rider doesn't anymore give flat +10% it's all linear scaling with peril now, peril*0.25 = bonus damage

[glossy ember]

I've had 4 warp charges back in 3s of scrier with a bit of luck

[bleak tulip]

okay but when are you realistically below 50% peril anyway

[charred parcel]

all the time

[glossy ember]

usually by maximum 15 seconds of scrier i'm at 6stacks

[dim parrot]

I'll definitely try it out, but with a small changes to the build

[near wyvern]

whenver you are not actively using your staff

[glossy ember]

more often than not under 10s i'm 4-6stacks

[idle bay]

So Peril edging ot bust. Now peril sound/VFX off will be mandatory option

[bleak tulip]

sounds like someone isnt edging for warp nexus at all times

[glossy ember]

keep me updated i wanna see ur opinion

[proven stirrup]

^

[glossy ember]

they told me i was crazy for running an unoptimized build

[idle bay]

Only intense encouters 🙂

[bleak tulip]

FS users have more excuses to stroke sword now

[proven stirrup]

Promise it's not worth crying about but people will do it anyway

[charred parcel]

Eh, I just try to survive most missions, not much time to juggle peril numbers. but again, I don't habe a lot of experience yet and I'm trying to teach myself the game lol

[dim parrot]

crazy? I was crazy once

[orchid nest]

@near wyvern alright yeah I can confirm a 77 damage, 80 finesse, 79 first target deimos with t4 maniac and no talents selected does 1 shot a mutant

[idle bay]

Phrasing 🙂

[near wyvern]

thx, will add your name to people who helped

[bleak tulip]

no I know what I wrote

[near wyvern]

based on this I can calculate the table value needed for one shot with T4 maniac

[glossy ember]

based

[idle bay]

I know too. When doing so - look in the teammates eyes

[glossy ember]

make sure to blitz cancel during scrier and u'll be fine for peril

[dim parrot]

uhm

how do u do that? (just asking for a friend)

[near wyvern]

you have this number 3 on your keyboard, you press it and then you press number 2

[glossy ember]

release rmb and tap blitz

then tap back to staff

[potent echo]

thats if they changed blitz to 3

usually its G

[dim parrot]

cries in controller

[near wyvern]

ahh

[near wyvern]

inferior interface for FPS, what can you do

[potent echo]

or just press quickswap twice

[dim parrot]

lmao good one

[glossy ember]

f

[bleak tulip]

can you still not just connect a keyboard to modern consoles?

[dim parrot]

u def can

[charred parcel]

not every game supports that

[near wyvern]

yes if the game allows it

[dim parrot]

but dont see the reason lol

[bleak tulip]

I mean for a mouse you could I would hope

[potent echo]

would you have a mouse and keyboard if you owned a console

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[dim parrot]

some do that yes

[bleak tulip]

absolutely

[potent echo]

probably a mouse for the laptop

[idle bay]

Used FragFX as mouse on consoles back when PS3 was a thing

Still have it collecting dust in the "BOX"

[dim parrot]

pandoras?

[idle bay]

THE "BOX" a place where all cables go to be used one day even if there is no tech it can be plugged in made in 20 last years years

[potent echo]

20

[charred parcel]

I still have my old cellphones from the 90s in such a box

Alcatel OneTouch

[carmine agate]

Do we get the free cosmetics alrdy?

[summer prairie]

I guess this is the revolver fix

[potent echo]

not yet

[bleak tulip]

you had a mobile phone in the 90s? what are you a millionaire

[near wyvern]

not yet, they are in the game files but not visible without mods

[carmine agate]

I see

[idle bay]

With a bleeding heart i thrown out 90's cables....

[near wyvern]

if that order really fixes it they really have fucked up way of coding things

[charred parcel]

it was the late 90s and it was a gift. I even have a few 3210s and 3310s somewhere

[near wyvern]

order shouldn't matter for things like that

[potent echo]

its not even worth salvaging the copper lol

[summer prairie]

it's the conditional instead of just stat buffs

[azure bridge]

did a patch come out? At work and can't check

[summer prairie]

ignore the order change

[bleak tulip]

I mean thats barely the 90's tho

[frank chasm]

I feel like they fixed the Surge Blessing - either that or upped the crit chance on the Void.

Just did a mission melting hordes with one or two charged headshots due to the double bubble explosion

[potent echo]

new file on the left?

[near wyvern]

carnival part 1 yes

[summer prairie]

yes new on left

[rough cedar]

did the psyker get nerfed?

[charred parcel]

true, around 2000 most of it. But I alsohave a Telmi pager, and no one remembers those

[near wyvern]

a bit, warp rider is +0% at 0 peril now and scales linearly, peril * 0.25 = damage bonus

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah its out, theres literally no news anywhere tho. I have to come to discord to find out

[near wyvern]

so that lost +10% hurts all gun psyker builds and makes deimos mutant one shot harder to craft

[rough cedar]

ahh gotcha

[bleak tulip]

well pagers are ancient now thats true

[carmine agate]

I still no surge blessing

[frank chasm]

Doesn’t feel like it ngl.

Just did 400k on a regular damnation ez pz

[potent echo]

those function names are a nightmare

[near wyvern]

staff psykers should not really notice any difference

[frank chasm]

Took me 50 staffs to get it. Gotta keep rolling to Orange to have a chance

[bleak tulip]

its live on steam wdym no news? lol

[dim parrot]

I just wanna get uncanny 4 for my illisi, not more

[frigid sparrow]

Steam doesn't have any notes published. It's a random download with no mention of what you're downloading

[dim parrot]

I will even sacrifice a random vet to get it

[azure bridge]

Yush the surge staff got fixed!

[potent echo]

gamesradar havent posted yet

[frigid sparrow]

I even googled it, it's all 3 and 4 day old stuff

[near wyvern]

#📢news-bulletin

[bleak tulip]

steam news updates usually are a bit behind

[summer prairie]

I guess this is the difficulty related change

[frigid sparrow]

#psyker-class message

[azure bridge]

Ty much!

[frank chasm]

Void is back to being better

[charred parcel]

completely random question: if you unlock a blessing with Hadron, is it permanent? I actually kinda never noticed that system until yesterday lol

[frank chasm]

Yeah if you earn the blessing it is

[azure bridge]

I'm okay with that, I liked surge staff w/o the bugged damage

[frank chasm]

Yeah I’m good with it too

[azure bridge]

I use either void or surge depending on my preferernce that day

[carmine agate]

I still likw using trauma

[primal aurora]

Surge staff is nerfed/fixed?

[azure bridge]

fixed

[frank chasm]

Means I can go back to a fun build without feeling like I’m giving up efficiency on A5 Maels

[azure bridge]

not nerfed

[near wyvern]

nooo my knife doesn't one shot mutants anymore

because lost warp rider +10%

it's a peril hell game for gun psykers now

[frank chasm]

Ngl I have not used trauma since I unlocked void

I should roll one

[near wyvern]

gotta stay on peril but it goes down so fast

[charred parcel]

time to look up how to actually earn blessings then

[frank chasm]

Just use scribes ez

[orchid nest]

behold this warp resist deimos

[azure bridge]

void is so much fun, its like having a cannon

[frank chasm]

There should be a guide to crafting on YouTube that explains it all better than we can

[primal aurora]

Trauma feels inferior in everything compared to Void

[frank chasm]

I stunlocked a Pogryn so hard my team just stopped shooting it so I could keep the animation lock as long as possible

[frigid sparrow]

Spend 300k on white bases, roll things over 365 up to blue. If its not bricked, consider sending to yellow. Not optimal, but works

[potent echo]

trauma scales with density

[charred parcel]

guess I'll have some readint o do. so far I just went with what the game explained, and that's how my builds look :D

[obtuse walrus]

Trauma is pretty funny

[frank chasm]

Yeah don’t worry about crafting till you’re lvl 30

Up to then you don’t earn high quality weapons anyway

[charred parcel]

I have three classes at 30 though

[frank chasm]

Ahh lol

it takes time to figure out what’s good

[orchid nest]

42% peril with one charge

[bitter escarp]

new level is hyooge

[ornate hamlet]

Wdym, i got hit with the patchnotes the moment it went live

[charred parcel]

I just started like two weeks ago and don't really have anyone else to play with so alone it is

[bitter escarp]

them modded long range scopes might actually see some use

[obtuse walrus]

[charred parcel]

what do you mean with bricked?

[primal aurora]

bad perks / blessings

[ornate hamlet]

non-meta perks

[bitter escarp]

you can fix 2 things

so if at some point you have a blue and both perk and blessing are shit, you're out of luck

[frigid sparrow]

If your first two upgrades produces a shitty blessing and a shitty perk, it's not worth betting that you'll roll a good perk AND good blessing for the next two upgrades. You get two free re-rolls, the goal is to make sure you get at least two working blessing/perks and then change the other two

Unless your goal is to straight up farm the blessings, then fuck it send it to the moon and pray

[bitter escarp]

this is straight up how I got Power Cycler IV

but on a complete stinker of a sword

didn't matter it was BS anyway

[frank chasm]

That’s good. Means you can earn that shit and put it on a gooderer sword

[primal aurora]

I'm really sad because no Ironhelm fix

[frigid sparrow]

Bingo

[charred parcel]

time to find out what is meta then lol. I just rolled a staff, a revolver and a sword to yellow once and got an Accatran at some point in yellow and just used that stuff

[frank chasm]

Although my Void came pre done with surge and + crit on peril and two lvl 4 perks so I don’t know what to do with it lmao

[frigid sparrow]

Worry less about meta, more about basics. By playing a lot, you earn a lot of currency to dump back into the items. You'll eventually get there, but you will be playing a LOT cause farming mats takes way too long.

[bitter escarp]

yeah have entirely too many better swords now, just didn't use them because rework Vet was not a great platform

[frank chasm]

What a god void looks like these days apparently

[frigid sparrow]

I rolled a vet and had so much fun just rocking some blues in damnation man. Really taught me about bad habits I had learned

[bitter escarp]

you don't even need the crit perk

[charred parcel]

oh I am just focussing on penances mostly at the moment to see what works and what doesn't, hence the infinite pain comment earlier

[bitter escarp]

also transfer peril and surge is the twinlinked railgun roll

[frank chasm]

I don’t but I use the immune on crit talents so@it helps more

[frigid sparrow]

Well there ya go

[frank chasm]

Yeah I want transfer peril on my new 380

[bitter escarp]

you proc that talent on a horde of any density anyway

but fair, if you want more uptime or something idk

[charred parcel]

and I might actually have to bite the bullet and ask a team to carry me through Warp Battery because it sucks out my will to play Psyker at all

[frank chasm]

Headshots are crits for the purpose of the blessing too

I just used it cause it was the better of the two blessings it came with

[frank chasm]

Warp charges yeah?

[charred parcel]

yep

been trying for a week

[bitter escarp]

you realise you don't have to do the penances, right?

[charred parcel]

and it's so incredibly unfun

[frank chasm]

Take the +4% on teammate kill, take 4 warp charges max, and don’t use your ability

ez

[charred parcel]

I tried that, doesn't work

[frank chasm]

you’ll get it in like half a mission

[bitter escarp]

they're there but if they're giving you grief, step away

[frank chasm]

there were issues with some penances not firing

[charred parcel]

and I also can't stop because of a mental tick I have. at this point it's either I beat this or fall apart internally

[bitter escarp]

might be worth looking into alternative and healthier emotional regulation strats

[charred parcel]

I know, been working on that for the last 15 years. nothing really helped so far

[azure bridge]

Smite + bubble shield is so much fun

[deep whale]

I got my warp battery done on a histg domination. There's so much constant enemies it stays up

[frail sand]

this last section of new map, super obnoxious without dome

[bleak tulip]

play higher difficulties, its ironically way easier to do warp batt on damnation because there is actually enough specials and elites to keep your charges up

[charred parcel]

I might try Damnation some time, I just hesitate because every attempt at Heresy was so bad

and by any logic Damnation would be even worse

[idle bay]

Dome wil llast there for split second. Empathic dodge and crit buit is only way.

[bleak tulip]

consider getting better at the game part of the penance then

[frigid sparrow]

Just don't spend your charges?

[bleak tulip]

because I dont even know how anybody does that penance on heresy lol

heresy is so low on specials that you basically have no way to keep your charges up but sheer luck on vampire

[charred parcel]

best I was able to do was 216 seconds by going extremely aggressive on Malice

but the specials as you say are just not there

[bleak tulip]

or yknow you just run ahead and murder shit before your team can get to them but that doesnt seem like the option if youre playing malice and are scared of heresy

[twilit carbon]

Broski!
They Fixed It!
xD

[bitter escarp]

the upgrades will also be more helpful on higher difficulties

[charred parcel]

oh with pubs that literally your only option because people just kill everything so fast

[bitter escarp]

more density, more likely to get random charges

the right click precharge works but it's so mid

[frigid sparrow]

Here's the thing with higher difficulties. You end up making it this big old thing about "omg I can't do that difficulty, I struggled in heresy". I was in that spot for a while. Turns out, half the time it was cause I had shit teammates. I didn't even realize it until I went damnation and realized I was having an easier time because everyone was on the same page. Just go slam your head against the damnation door until you get desensitized to it. You'll soon be playing damnation as your warmup

[digital narwhal]

It's not Flak + Carapace like I wanted, but

it'll do fine for my Scrier's Psyker

[frigid sparrow]

You don't even have to do anything different, just go play damnation. There's no tracking or penalty if you die. Once you realize that, the world is your oyster.

[frank chasm]

You really need to take the 4% chance on coherency kill and stick in coherency as best as you can. Specials should help you get and keep the charges but the coherency kill saved the run for me

[charred parcel]

tbh there's a strong chance that this is true, considering what other people wrote about Heresy pubs

[frank chasm]

That with mercy killer

Yeah go play damnation

don’t even warm up

[bitter escarp]

Heresy HiSTG is the highest difficulty in the game

[charred parcel]

I actually run that already because the Soulblaze option seems to go even worse for me

[frank chasm]

Just go. It’s actually not that hard

[digital narwhal]

Nah, Uncanny Strike + Flesh Tearer

[frank chasm]

Hi intensity damnation is more fun than hard

[bitter escarp]

not because it's harder than Maelstrom, but because of the...teammates

[frigid sparrow]

It's absolutely true. I went back and tried different difficulties with my level 30 and with a lower level character. It's very obvious the skill differences.

[digital narwhal]

Mercy Killer isn't needed here

[frigid sparrow]

Malice seemed to be pretty okay, heresy was super chaotic, damnation is alright most of the time

[digital narwhal]

Uncanny Strike + Flesh Tearer for getting max Bleed stacks in potentially two hits, and Uncanny because it's Rending bonus is FAT

So it'll increase my Bleed damage and my Heavies

[frank chasm]

Fair, I have two with both versions so I’ll have to figure which one I prefer. Have been using the dueling sword more

[bitter escarp]

Heresy is where people coming up from Malice are failing their skill checks

[charred parcel]

for Malice I am nearly at the point of being able to carry randos, just some modifiers are still a bit much for me (mainly Hi intensity anything)

so there's that

[frigid sparrow]

I think heresy is so back and forth on win rates because its the stepping stone players take to test out higher difficulties. You have no idea what kind of players you gonna get

[rain meadow]

Rip free 10% damage

[bitter escarp]

and where people who think they ought to be on Damnation get their egos tempered

[rain meadow]

Still gonna take warp rider

[frail sand]

this new map is hard on damnation

[bitter escarp]

new map is hard in general

[rain meadow]

My psyker is barely ever below 50% peril

[subtle yew]

can someone tell me what this is? psyker on elite or specialist kill. think it's a talent? i cant work out what it is. doesnt appear to match any talent icon

[frigid sparrow]

Just roll heresy over and over or damnation over and over. Stop touching malice. Just stop. Challenge yourself and you'll grow into it.

[bitter escarp]

really open, a lot of jogging, whole goddamn regiments of gunners

[frail sand]

so many gunners

[idle bay]

I mean.. yeah. Almost like this 🙂

[bitter escarp]

also like 4 or 5 different town square dealios

no cover to gap close and beat up the gunners

[charred parcel]

I guess I should do that, at least with the level 30 classes. Still have one more to level though

[modern tusk]

Did the carnival update finally kill the surg glitch or is it there?

[bitter escarp]

if it makes you feel better, do some Heresy missions, but give yourself a hard limit of how many you'll do before you do Damnation

[subtle yew]

its dead

[bleak tulip]

basically all the main psyker bugs are gone

[bitter escarp]

it's often difficult to yolo up when you lack the confidence, even if the skill potential is there

[rare storm]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tough luck assail nerds

[charred parcel]

it's really hard to judge for me in general because I barely palyed the Vermintide games at all before, so it's not just new to the game, but the whole thing in general

[bitter escarp]

yeah best way to play Disrupt Destiny is to ignore it lmao

[bleak tulip]

this matters so much less than you think

[bitter escarp]

just do your thing and shit stacks up

[rare storm]

I know it means nothing but I just want to say that it will most likely get nerfed further

[bleak tulip]

I just wish they reworked it in some way

[frigid sparrow]

I also know that it sounds like it's a "just go do it" thing, but I had the exact same problem a while ago. I was bored because all I did was play malice and wasn't getting the currency. I just threw myself into the deep end. I had this realization that shit doesn't matter in the game. You'll never see those teammates again and there is no judgement if you do bad. I'm hitting that wall again with auric missions. I can do auric heresy pretty consistently, but auric damn is my stumbling block, similar to how heresy is to you.

[rare storm]

oh L

[frigid sparrow]

Now I'm realizing that plasteel drops don't seem to go up with those harder difficulties, which makes me a bit meh

[rare storm]

Surge nerds getting shafted too

[charred parcel]

the funny thing is that I am mostly hesitant because the first evening (5 missions, only 1 success) I got yelled at in every single mission, for different things. I don't want to get yelled at or let people down

[bitter escarp]

regular Damnation is the Legend difficulty of this game

that's where the rewards cap

[frigid sparrow]

Are you playing quickplay?

[charred parcel]

yes, I have nothing else

[bitter escarp]

look people yelling is often their emotional regulation issue

just a personality problem most of the time

[timid sphinx]

mfw they fixed the krieg head gear clipping but didn't fix the damn hands 😭

[bitter escarp]

I've pretty much never met anyone who deserved a bollocking other than dipshits with edgy names

[frigid sparrow]

Oh wow. I'm sorry to hear that man. I'll be honest, I don't encounter many people who yell. I play almost exclusively QP. I'd shake it off homie. Fuck them guys. You'll literally never see them again.

[charred parcel]

I won't because I blocked them. don't have the energy for that

[frigid sparrow]

Just pity them for their poor emotional responses and be happy :p

[frigid sparrow]

attaboy

[charred parcel]

like, I know I am making it hard for myself already by chewing through hard challenges and not stopping until I beat it, don't need the whole social stress thing too

[bitter escarp]

there's a lot of sad cunts who get off on making someone's day worse

just because they haven't tried trying to improve their circumstances

[charred parcel]

and on the plus side, nearly every time I beat a hard challenge, I actually learn something new. see the "On Overwatch" challenge I managed to beat in two days on vet - taught me how blocking worked and how to listen to specials cues

[bitter escarp]

yeah, the OG penances are worthwhile for teaching the limits of your class

[frigid sparrow]

I'm sorry that you got this obsession on the penances. I work in healthcare and I understand what you're talking about. I focused my energy on grinding mats and obtaining blessings. I didn't really care for all the penances.

[bitter escarp]

even if it's shit like suicide bombing with perils

which region are you in Shingo

[charred parcel]

I did that on accident :D

EU

[bitter escarp]

oof

oce so outta luck there

[charred parcel]

unless you don't care about ping lol

[bitter escarp]

could get you to sit on the soulblaze talent and I'll bring a purgatus staff

wait no

that wouldn't work, happy to try and enable WC anyway

[frigid sparrow]

I main crit purge. Soulblaze soul charges are scuffed. I have to actively quit killing things to get the charges to proc. 😦

[signal jay]

My reign of terror is over! (Surge staff user)

[charred parcel]

find a new terror

[bitter escarp]

yeah looks like the last tick has to be soulblaze

[signal jay]

I main pure cringe 😎

[charred parcel]

cringe is the way to go

[frigid sparrow]

So, question on auric missions. How exactly do the rewards work in those missions? When I do auric heresy, I get less materials and no real change to gold in comparsion to damnation

[bleak tulip]

because there is none

[jolly cedar]

Would you buy this?

[proven hazel]

sigh, the ONE good hairstyle now clips with my favourite psyker helmet

[bleak tulip]

auric is just a guaranteed modifier

and the lv 30 requirement

[idle bay]

Reward for auric is extra difficulty 🙂

[frigid sparrow]

That's terrible..

okay

[jolly cedar]

Would any of u guys buy this deimos sword?

[proven hazel]

no

[mental grail]

Fr

[frigid sparrow]

Why do you wanna buy it?

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t. Upgrading it is somewhat risky

[jolly cedar]

Good stats?

[spice veldt]

I'd buy it

[jolly cedar]

And it has bonus damage to carapace which is exactly what u want on deimos

[bleak tulip]

if its better than what you have go for it thats what the shops for

[spice veldt]

might as well grab it

[jolly cedar]

Yeah id pair it with purgatus

Thanks

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, it’s not a bad buy per se if you don’t have anything better for sale.

[frigid sparrow]

Then there ya go. You just gotta ask yourself a few questions. Is the stat allocation in a good spot? In this case, it looks like yes. The dump stat is in the right spot. Then you ask yourself, do I have to spend my two re-rolls to fix the blessing/perks. If no, then buy. If yes, think hard. If anything, if its a straight upgrade or you've never owned this sword before, it's not a bad buy. It's 18k, who gives af

[summer prairie]

the new mission is cool, but very long

[frigid sparrow]

And you can roll it to yellow in the hopes of getting something fun out of it.

[mental grail]

Anyone have any gun psyker recommendations?

[spice veldt]

certainly a map that you'll want to run through

take guns with good finesse like the iags (Columnus in particular because of 4-shot crit strings), laspistol, etc.

[summer prairie]

took 44 minutes, nearly 1m damage even though it was just a regular hi shock

[spice veldt]

yeah hi shock is fucking wild now

[frigid sparrow]

I've been hearing a lot about crit strings, mainly when it comes to the recon lasgun and vet (it got nerfed hard). I'm not sure what a crit string is tho.

[mental grail]

me asking for builds after the psyker nerfs

[spice veldt]

basically when you roll a crit, shots for a short period of time will crit

usually on automatic weapons

[potent echo]

i need to try this

[spice veldt]

so you don't just get a single critical shot when a crit rolls

for the Columnus, you get 4 consecutive crits when a crit rolls

[mental grail]

so avoid kentraels and similar?

[frigid sparrow]

AH. Is there a database somewhere that lists out crit strings for weapons or is this just google spreadsheet knowledge?

[spice veldt]

I don't think there's a database

[potent echo]

it just lives as arcane knowledge in some people's heads

[spice veldt]

I have damage numbers on in game so I can see the crit rolls more easily

[spice veldt]

prplly

they'll work, but the +crit chance from scrier's and the +finesse from DD will benefit finesse weapons in particular

[frigid sparrow]

That's a shame. Need a public facing window for this kind of knowledge lol. This channel sorely needs a post pinned similar to the zealot channels #zealot-class message post.

And a thread for builds. I can't see one here in psyker land.

[spice veldt]

there's a builds thread

[frigid sparrow]

Omg there is? How the hell do I get it to pop up?

[potent echo]

top right

[spice veldt]

I don't particularly care for crit strings since they seem to be precarious as a mechanic (e.g., recon lasguns nerfs) and they're mostly intuitive (automatic fast-firing weapons have the longest crit strings)

[frigid sparrow]

Omg I'm an idiot lol

Thank you

[potent echo]

i think you must post inside at least once

for it to show up

[spice veldt]

other stuff I haven't bothered to compile information for since we are in a relatively new era

[potent echo]

could be wrong

[spice veldt]

you can right-click it when it's in your sidebar and click join to make the thread stick in your side bar

something to that effect

not on my comp so I can't check

[frigid sparrow]

Okay, TIL discord stuff.

[potent echo]

yea i just posted in zealot builds and its now showing for me

[frigid sparrow]

I had tried searching channels and the bar and all sorts of stuff. I just legit thought the channel had gotten neglected.

ty

[proven belfry]

So...are people happy with the Assail nerfs now?

[potent echo]

yea

[spice veldt]

I'd like to see nerfs to it's max ammo count

[late yew]

is this good, or should i spend some on b etter one?

[proven belfry]

Also reduced frequency with VO on assail usage was much needed

[spice veldt]

there's no world in which 10 max shards is needed

[potent echo]

is good but i rather have +maniac

[spice veldt]

shoot it in the kneecaps

[proven belfry]

Interesting. Ive seen the other side, lotsa people against the nerf and see Assail as not THAT broken/Op in a way

[potent echo]

3.. 2.. 1.. found youu

[potent echo]

they arent playing the same game

[spice veldt]

they're prob people who spam it

because you get more.mileage out of each shard if you quickswap.and whatnot

[late yew]

Does it break any BP?

[frigid sparrow]

Isn't a lot of assail hate coming from peeps who play on lower difficulties where assail can clean the map too easily?

[late yew]

It one-shots them on crit for sure

[spice veldt]

because assail inherits the perks and blessings of your equipped weapon

[late yew]

And you can stun them either way

[spice veldt]

so the ammo economy nerfs aren't as bad as they sound as long as you put in the effort of swapping off of it

[potent echo]

mutant mainly

but you need quite abit of help

you need some peril and maybe some DD/warpsiphon

[spice veldt]

assail being flashy and very visible

[late yew]

What nerfs?

[spice veldt]

2s to 3s recharge speed

[late yew]

I think assail pretty balanced right now?

[spice veldt]

and I'd personally like to see nerfs to it's max ammo count

[mental grail]

It's absolutely needed

[late yew]

Actually what i was suggesting lol

to nerf its replenishment speed

[spice veldt]

no

[rare storm]

Needs more nerf

[mental grail]

It's primo for horde clearing

[night crater]

Assail felt pretty weak compared to smite and brain burst, even with bb not working properly. Can't see why they go after it

[late yew]

It is not meant to be anti-horde tool

LMAO

[spice veldt]

yeah and I absolutely do not want it to ever fit that role

[potent echo]

arco just wants people to play his game

[late yew]

[mental grail]

Step out of auric damnation

[late yew]

Assail is meant to clear roamers and greoups of shooters

And specials

[spice veldt]

because something that people forget is that assail has the extremely good property of regenerating while you're doing something else

[late yew]

Nothing else

[spice veldt]

the time cost is very passive

unlike smite/BB where you have to be actively holding the weapon to use it

[late yew]

What if you could only recharge shards when venting peril

[spice veldt]

no

too complicated of a mechanic and it's on the gunker side of the tree

shouldn't ever have any peril interaction

[mental grail]

all fatshark wanted was for it not to essentially be a 3rd gun, nothing about it not being a horde clearing tool

[spice veldt]

assail should reward a magic cowboy playstyle

shoot, quickswap throw shards, go back to shooting and whatnot

[late yew]

Oh damn, near perfect DS

too bad it is 4

[mental grail]

funkiller arco

[spice veldt]

being able to just mindlessly spam an aim assist weapon because you have 10 max shards is not good design

and Psyker is severely lacking in mechanical engagement unless you run a gun

like god just make Psyker require some aim by adding a precision force staff and/or make you press buttons more

and assail is the prime blitz to make you press button more

[ripe crater]

Can devs stop nerfing Assail? It's already not that much fun nor effective to use on most AM. Assail is ultra OP for lower difficulty but that quickly falls off.

[spice veldt]

it doesn't fall off that hard

[ripe crater]

Also did this patch fix the surge empowered psionics bug?

[late yew]

no

[fresh reef]

Bolt staff NOW

[late yew]

I do not mind it nerfing ab it more

Specifically amount of charges

[spice veldt]

like it falls off in the sense that it doesn't scale, but people are really just overstating it's badness

[late yew]

8 wolud be good start

[spice veldt]

like just fucking use other weapons while your shards are regenerating

[potent echo]

how is assail bad lol

[ripe crater]

Like, just fucking don't tell me how tro play

[late yew]

After beam

[potent echo]

is it because they arent running PC

[spice veldt]

it takes 0.2s for the first shard to come out of and 0.33s for the second

[mental grail]

That is literally what assail is for, they just nerfed it so you use it in salvos now

[potent echo]

if you arent running PC you are losing out

[late yew]

PC?

the fuck

[spice veldt]

not when you're having an extremely bad take

[potent echo]

perilous combustion

[late yew]

what is that

[glossy ember]

soulblaze on elite kill

[potent echo]

top left talent

[ripe crater]

It's an opinion, never presented otherwise, yet you present your opinion as fact. Gtfo.

[fresh reef]

[potent echo]

yea you should run it like

[spice veldt]

I'm tired of listening to opinions from shitters who don't even have half my playtime

[potent echo]

always

on everything

[late yew]

?????????????

are you alright

[potent echo]

assail with that is what makes the difference

[fresh reef]

Based Aggrotash??????

[late yew]

well it is not bad

[glossy ember]

sorry bro i don't have a point for it

[late yew]

but i would not say it is mandatory

In most situations it does not matter

[mental grail]

precision targeting is for veterans, you sound like you just want veterans with magic

[spice veldt]

I want Psyker to have at least one mechanically engaging warp weapon

[potent echo]

i mean people are often playing a different game when they come out with weird opinions

like not running PC

[ripe crater]

You are one ignorant fool then. "I'm better than you, cannot learn anything from you." Have you ever met this person in real life and thought "Wow! This guy is awesome!"

[spice veldt]

what a strict role assignment

[mental grail]

we have bb

[late yew]

What does "mechanically engaging" even mean

[mental grail]

That is precise enough

[ornate hamlet]

signalis enjoyer

[late yew]

Peril magagment could be called that

[potent echo]

he wants to press all the buttons

[spice veldt]

press button good and be rewarded for it

[potent echo]

i dont agree personally

[mental grail]

🤝

[spice veldt]

aim good and be rewarded for it

[ornate hamlet]

honestly though, I don't like assail's mechanics

[late yew]

play Vet then

[spice veldt]

and be punished accordingly if press button bad or aim bad

[late yew]

Psyker is about rewarding other things

[spice veldt]

that's exactly what I'm doing right now

[mental grail]

I press shoot shard and am rewarded with kills

[ornate hamlet]

brain burst at the bare minimum had you aim at the target and wasn't exactly the easiest thing to use in a crowd

assail is just mashing left click until the shards reach 0

[spice veldt]

and Psyker should get more depth to it

[spice veldt]

ignorant to say that it falls off hard

[late yew]

Wonder what you think of smite

[potent echo]

smite lol

[spice veldt]

I dislike smites design

you become zealots stuun nade

[fresh reef]

"Don't feel so bad, Roughneck. I don't exactly aim and I'm still enjoying myself! :D"

[ornate hamlet]

like, with force swords and some peril shit, there is some pretty fun stuff to be had with psyker

[spice veldt]

can't do anything interesting while stunning really

[charred parcel]

tbh the only thing I wish about brain burst is an option to ignore non special/elite targets because sometimes it's nigh impossible to get the right target in a mass of enemies

[glossy ember]

I think it's a good talent node for sure but in my very specific build I believe malefic momentum helps more. But that's a very niche case

[ornate hamlet]

but it's like they wanted ranged combat to be as boring as possible

[late yew]

I mean... It is not wrong, if someone is better than you, they can't learn from you

[mental grail]

you mean the majority of players?

[ripe crater]

A patch 14 assail psyker was already non-existant in AM.

[potent echo]

if you fight 6 shotgunners, PC is the different between assail bad and assail VERY GOOD