psyker-class

[severe folio]

i dont think thats my psyker

im pretty sure im the loner psyker

[digital narwhal]

“Something something enforcers something something lex atoma”

[severe folio]

and he respect me

[fresh reef]

Do you constantly say heretical things with a German/French accent?

[fading iris]

Sometimes he likes me, sometimes he doesn't, idk if my Beloved likes him

[severe folio]

i dont know what is german or french accent unfortunately but heretical thing yes, very callous to other people

the one that constantly say “incomparable mind”

[fresh reef]

Male Loner is German, Female Loner is French

I think

[fresh reef]

Yeah, def Loner then

[severe folio]

so thats french then

[orchid shadow]

I'm loner Psyker, and Melk has respectful voice lines.

[severe folio]

interesting

never knew thats a french accent

[fading iris]

I have both type of lines, which makes sense, sometimes I'm sane and chill, sometimes I'm too... and since my Beloved is the Emperor

[digital narwhal]

Melk definitely appreciates Savant most, though

He actively mentions looking forward to seeing them

and that he’s betting on them

[dawn orchid]

female loner is hispanic, the french female psyker is the enforcer one

[fading iris]

I want a beep boop voice pack

synth voice lesgooo

[fresh reef]

She's Hispanic? I never clocked that accent as Hispanic

[digital narwhal]

Male Savant seems African, maybe.

[severe folio]

i get the same dialogs

[warped niche]

[dawn orchid]

I instantly recognized it as one, she's definitely not french though

Keep in mind there's many types of hispanic

[severe folio]

well thats

interesting

[fresh reef]

Aye, true

[dawn orchid]

Male savant is definitely african

[digital narwhal]

Love the Male Savant

[severe folio]

so the hispanic get the sarcastic role this time ?

[digital narwhal]

He’s cool

[royal ibex]

wish you could change characters voice, wanna go the sienna voice but dont wanna make a new psyker after getting some good weapons on this one 'running same voice atm but male'

[fading iris]

I want the "40k cigarette packs a day" that Belisarius Cawl has on Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2

[fresh reef]

After having attended lectures from multiple different Nigerian professors, Savant is def African

[severe folio]

i want to go with the profit taker orb mother voice lol

after i realize shes there

[frank moat]

Holy shit you’re right

[royal ibex]

which ones that?

[fading iris]

the VA is from Zimbabwe

[severe folio]

i think its savant psyker

female

ofc

[digital narwhal]

Aha

Then yeah

I’ve always been bad with accents, so it’s good to know I’m right this time

[fresh reef]

Pox Hounds should-- Pox Hounds shouldn't--Bound, Bounce.

[royal ibex]

fair enough. i havent played warframe in ages so ill take your word for it

[severe folio]

but if theres 2 different degree of melk respect

between loner and savant

[fading iris]

the only respect I want from him are on the shop rolls

which so far...

btw here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEH4sjqlmY Belisarius Cawl 40k packs a day voice when

[severe folio]

nah no way

[fresh reef]

in response to this btw

I literally closed my eyes just to prove my point lol

[fading iris]

eye cam or fake

[royal ibex]

[fading iris]

and know we know that the button to stop recording is the same for the ping

[fresh reef]

real

[severe folio]

maybe it would be more convincing to see it in mission

[fresh reef]

either way, the color on the gauge is notably different

[fading iris]

Wait... that wasn't a video to show that you hate conga lines?

[fresh reef]

kek

me? hating conga lines?

nah, that's just not possible

[fading iris]

[twilit comet]

Are there any builds with Scier's Gauge that are good? I'm seeing very little instances of that build being used - just curious if anyone has found anything good with it.

[severe folio]

gun psyker

and someone have a surge scrier

build

though i think its more risky than good

i have a purg scrier

[robust sierra]

what's the best map to do this on?

[fading iris]

Try that one that the last stage is to hold on a forge

I`ll assume that yeeting them to the sides or the center counts

[robust sierra]

I'm not sure what map that is

the one with the 3 canisters you have to load up?

like the smelter

[digital narwhal]

Metalfab Smelter or Hab Dreyko

[robust sierra]

gotcha

is venting shriek or force sword push better for it

[fading iris]

Metalfab is one that I'm thinking of

[digital narwhal]

Shriek

[robust sierra]

and the ledge, does it have to be a ledge to death or simply just off the top of those smelters?

[digital narwhal]

“Kill 7 enemies within 2s by knocking them off a ledge”

So into the lava below on Metalfab final event, or down the ledge of Hab Dreyko escape where you cross the bridge

[robust sierra]

gotcha

okay, thnaks

thanks*

[fading iris]

+++"The Emperor do not care about the ledge, only that heretics are being yeeted from it"+++

[mental grail]

np wrapping up my penances, and having to use bb is killing me

[worn cypress]

BB my beloved

[mental grail]

I get matched with a assail psyker that kills everything, or a vet that shoots everything I try to bb

pain

[shadow wigeon]

BB is kinda sad now. Even EP and ult boosted its too slow.

[worn cypress]

its always been slow lol

[mental grail]

An aoe explosion from bb targets would be so nice

[shadow wigeon]

The end of Vigil Station has them stacked up on bridges.

[worn cypress]

yeah

I wish they’d tune it some

[solar sand]

think of it as a grenade to whip out for a special or whatever, and it works pretty well for that

[shadow wigeon]

Nah with old Kinetic Barrage you could get tons of use out BB.

[worn cypress]

I love it and the reliability but its just sluggish

[mental grail]

I'm new to the game, so I'm not used to bb, just assail and smite

[worn cypress]

you could but its still was pretty slow lol

[digital narwhal]

Nah, Kinetic Barrage was neat

Is neat

[worn cypress]

compared to the dmg and impact it does

[digital narwhal]

Even though it’s called, like

Kinetic Resonance now

I think

[mental grail]

Getting all my bb kills stolen before I can pop them is the main issue, I'm just wasting peril

[worn cypress]

dude I ran kinetic barrage while everyone was on the ascendant blaze train, you dont have to tell me 😛

[mental grail]

I spend half the mission edging myself until I can proc ep

[shadow wigeon]

I see EP Surge bug is still in the game. I guess it was too much to assume they would have fixed that in that last however long....

So tired of all the bugs and broken gear

[worn cypress]

even back then the cast time vs dmg/uptime proposition was not super great

[mental grail]

I will admit

I'm using it, it clears hordes easily

[fresh reef]

nothing special going on here. standard damnation with music is just really relaxing

[fading iris]

[fresh reef]

related: everyone should play Sayonara Wild Hearts

it has biker lesbians and robot wolves

[robust sierra]

just tried it on metalfab and it didnt work

shriek has dick all for any stagger whatsoever

nor would my force sword's push

[fresh reef]

were you at max peril?

[digital narwhal]

Shriek has higher stagger at higher peril iirc

[robust sierra]

wish I knew that

[fresh reef]

and now you do

[digital narwhal]

Welp

At least you know now

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[robust sierra]

time to do the exact same fucking thing again

[royal ibex]

'man i will never touch scryers gaze it seems awful'
you can use it to go mach 5
'i will now main scryers gaze'

[robust sierra]

there goes 30 minutes

what staff is the best for building peril

[fresh reef]

it really is amazing just how fast 20% is

[digital narwhal]

Combine it with a Columnus for reaching max stacks of Mettle instantly

[royal ibex]

that with the mettle stacks and the DD speed boost you fucking zooming

[digital narwhal]

and with the +5% Movement Speed node

[fresh reef]

and knife or Mk5 dueling sword for the fastest sprint speed

nyoom

[digital narwhal]

YEAH

https://tenor.com/view/running-running-man-gif-26341322

[royal ibex]

i mean im using a laspistol and hitting max stacks reliably

[digital narwhal]

iirc Columnus is also pretty fast

But not quite Knife/DS fast

[fresh reef]

spam True Aim staff bolts into a reaper to build stacks, then run directly to it to stab it in the eyes

[royal ibex]

gonna try get a good knife

[fresh reef]

👌

[digital narwhal]

"Think fast, chucklenuts"

[royal ibex]

im assuming bleed on crit/weak spot damage to bleeding targets is the blessings to go for?

[fresh reef]

bear in mind that Mk5 has slightly better dodge

[digital narwhal]

Scrier's Psykers with Mettle and +5% Movement Speed:

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-dance-irony-reddit-gif-18163307

[fresh reef]

~13% at 80 mobility versus a near guaranteed 15% on Mk5 because it has both Defense and Mobility bars

[naive dawn]

Does anyone know if assail takes perks/blessings from the last equipped weapon?

[fresh reef]

just gonna put this banger in here

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt post the clip

[royal ibex]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/b5/97/9cb5970a37c4b9acfca8d432c0183361.gif
'scryers psykers racing with knife zealots to see who can get killed the furthest fromt he team'

[frail sand]

time to reroll all the crappy milk contracts

[spice veldt]

not on the last-equipped weapon; only on your currently-equipped weapon
this clip is from patch 13 so just cut the damage down by 20% https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[royal ibex]

good lord. also lmao nintendo switch settings

[fading iris]

I saw places saying that it doesn't, but man, you get the stamina bar from the current weapon, so...

[mental grail]

Can you get pick n mix penance with brain rupture?

[royal ibex]

worked for me when i got it

[mental grail]

What are those graphics?

[bleak tulip]

@spice veldt you dont by chance know of a way to make priority buffs less opaque? didnt see a direct option for that in hudtweaker

[fading iris]

Bro playing Darktide on PS2

[royal ibex]

bro got the nintendo switch version early

[mental grail]

Any tips?

Or just play the game and I'll get it

[digital narwhal]

Assail with Uncanny is so funny

[royal ibex]

venting shriek with the faster charge, EP for faster charges and less peril, and just hope

[mental grail]

thanks

inshallah I will get it

[atomic zephyr]

what's a good devil's claw build for psyker?

and which variation

[digital narwhal]

MkIV or MkVII

MkIV opens up with a Strikedown H1 and has a more horizontal Relentless H2, and MkVII opens up a horizontal Relentless H1 and a Strikedown H2

Just preference for moveset

(MkI is only Relentless attacks for the Heavies, so worse single target than the other two)

[atomic zephyr]

what blessings are good?

[digital narwhal]

Rampage + Savage Sweep

[fading iris]

Only thing I'm seeing is that we need power claws like Tyberos for a true devil claw build

[spice veldt]

i don't think so because the opacity seems to be procedural, so you'll prob have to find the code in a .lua file doing that

[bleak tulip]

tragic

[atomic zephyr]

vicious slice useful?

[magic hull]

some guy posted this picture. Are we getting a level revamp?

[digital narwhal]

Vicious Slice?
Kinda

[fading iris]

[magic hull]

is it in the upcoming update

[digital narwhal]

They're using the True Level Mod

[fading iris]

Would be nice to turn that into a thing for endgame, like the mastery level on Guild Wars 2

[manic shore]

does anyone know how tf people are supposed to do cliffhanger?

the guides all seem to be telling you to do stuff that it obviously throwing or holding off at the exit when your team is waiting to leave

[fresh reef]

obviously throwing
Welcome to the redacted penances lol

Are you on pc?

[manic shore]

yes

[fresh reef]

You can make it much easier with mods

[manic shore]

do you have any recommendations which mods to use?

[long zodiac]

what should I slap on this thing

[fresh reef]

Use ManyMoreTry so you can play solo with progression

[atomic zephyr]

i picked up a mk9 devil's claw, and its pretty solid, just deciding what to switch the 1 blessing for

i only have hammer blow and vicious slice as a rebless for me

[fresh reef]

That in combination with https://maelstroom.net/ will allow you to select the exact mission/difficulty you want without griefing real people

[digital narwhal]

You should replace Thunderstrike with Hammerblow if it's your only one, and then Weak Spot for Flak.

[manic shore]

ty, i'll try that - i was wondering how there were screenshots of people in all bot parties

[brazen warren]

I would replace thunderstrike with hammerblow

[digital narwhal]

And then, when you can, replace Hammerblow for Rampage

[atomic zephyr]

nothing, usefull as it is. some people use nexus over flurry, but i like to charge faster

[fresh reef]

Just remember to set your lobby to public, otherwise you won't get progress

(people can't actually join though, since it's a delisted mission)

[brazen warren]

reason being is that any blessing that has the wording "if already staggered" means the effect only applies if the target is toppling from stagger, so in reality the bonus is hard to achieve and harder to measure accurately

[fresh reef]

Also, very important, remember that Shriek's stagger strength scales with your peril

[atomic zephyr]

what about visious slice? not as useful compared to hammerblow?

vicious

[brazen warren]

hammerblow activates regardless of enemy count but they do the same thing in the end

[digital narwhal]

^

[royal ibex]

crit/unyielding for a laspistol right?

[atomic zephyr]

got it

[atomic zephyr]

what blessings are good for laspistol?

[royal ibex]

infernus/dumdum

[atomic zephyr]

i could build that. im going to try that laspistol and the devils claw

going to be a fun test

[mental grail]

so checked out from brain burst

it's so outperformed

[strong gulch]

and ppl are more aggressive now about killing the halo (also me; I'm worse too)

[mental grail]

I don't know how you kept your sanity

I'm going insane rn

[royal ibex]

very easily apparently lmao. try join hi intensity/shock troop deployment missions

[rare horizon]

What are the best options against bosses? Most my psyker builds have trouble against them

[west stream]

Gun

Gun to weakpoint for massive damage

Believe it

[mental grail]

I am, everyone just shoots whatever I'm brainbursting

[royal ibex]

welcome to pain my friend

[manic shore]

@fresh reefI got it, thank you so much!

[mental grail]

playing on console is pain

[fresh reef]

<3

[mental grail]

[fresh reef]

True!

How bad is the performance?

[mental grail]

Alright, sometimes it get fucking awful though

[fresh reef]

I'm guessing during hordes, mostly

I don't remember the Series X having a particularly powerful cpu

[mental grail]

It's per map in my experience, hab dreyko, chasm terminus etc usually have good performance regardless

[fresh reef]

Hab Dreyko
Good performance
Fucking huh????

That map is notorious for being the most demanding

[royal ibex]

mans just lucky it seems

[mental grail]

^

The hourglass fucks my FPS though

idk why

Like sub 24fps at times

[fresh reef]

I hate sand

It's rough, and it's coarse, and it tanks my frames

[mental grail]

The area with the stairs is nearly unplayable on high intensity

I just pull out my sword and start swinging bc I can't see shit lol

[left mirage]

man

i dont know what's up with the damnation randoms today

but everytime i bring a different build my team fails to compensate

[strong gulch]

Did a couple of runs with the MK 2 dueling sword. It felt pretty good.

Not as much damage, but I like the lights a lot more. I chain the special a lot anyways.

So I might have to grind for a an even better one.

[harsh urchin]

gotta bring strong builds

that can handle any situation lol

[fading iris]

Anakin Psywalker

[fresh reef]

It's less your team failing to compensate and more you being less comfortable carrying with an unfamiliar build, I'd bet

[left mirage]

nah, i bring purg bb and my team cant handle shooters

something like that

[fresh reef]

Purg can handle shooters just fine though?

What combat ability are you running with it?

[mental grail]

But the penances though

[harsh urchin]

you can do penances

with strong builds lol

[left mirage]

double shield

[fresh reef]

Malleous Monstronum requiring you to have at least 20 unspent skill points, on Heresy, in a private game

[cosmic sigil]

what???

[fresh reef]

Try it with Dome Shield

[spice veldt]

i saw someone recent where they did malleus with brain rupture

[fresh reef]

Purgatus already has great stagger against everything but mutants with its M1, and placing a Dome far ahead of you allows you to cover a large amount of ground

[royal ibex]

i did it with the upgraded version

[fresh reef]

And once you're within Purg's effective 17 meter range, it's just a suppression cannon

[fresh reef]

Fr? Guess they must've fixed it

Or it was never bugged in the first place

Idfk

I was fortunate enough to do it back when it was still doable in a pub

[royal ibex]

the ogryn one is bugged

thast it as far as im aware

[spice veldt]

i did it with a group on here just to get the penance out of the way

[royal ibex]

i did it with friends

[fresh reef]

And Resupply Allies on Vet iirc

[royal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-clone-wars-fives-death-the-mission-the-nightmares-gif-17402131

[fresh reef]

Which doesn't even work with the default aura

[fresh reef]

Gorgeous

Post Plogryn dps 🙏

[left mirage]

i find dome has too much downtime

especially since im using emp bb

id have to retool to run warpcharge

[fresh reef]

I mean, not necessarily?

[left mirage]

best build ive found for that is gunpsyk

[royal ibex]

was funny as hell seeing a 350 give me two t4 blessings

'second was ghost'

[left mirage]

but disrupt destiny is fuckin annoying to keep up

[royal ibex]

i liek it, but fucking hell the whole 'im just not gonna mark anything, good luck' thing can stop

[fresh reef]

In my experience the one that gives you cdr on elite/special kill gives you enough uptime

[left mirage]

tbf sometimes you get teammates that stay right outside coherency and kill there

fuckin veteran 10m behind me

also dont i have to be the one to land the killing blow?

sometimes teammates take em

[royal ibex]

ill check real quick

yeah youg otta do it. lmao have fun

[left mirage]

xd

im already running it on double shield

ngl all of the "you have to land kills" talents really piss me off sometimes

id spend an extra point just to let it proc from coherency kills too

[royal ibex]

you need a mod to spawn monstrosities in the meat grinder dont you

[fresh reef]

Of course you do lmao

[royal ibex]

gdi

too lazy to do that

[jolly cedar]

Ragers?

[fresh reef]

yes

[jolly cedar]

Dosent seem to work

they just keep coming even while being sprayed

[spice veldt]

LMB staggers them

[fresh reef]

M1

not M2

[jolly cedar]

why?

thats stupid

rewarding players for using the quickfire?

instead of the risky continuous right click?

[spice veldt]

lmb has less damage/soulblaze application

[spice veldt]

and the right click isn't that risky anyways since you can always cancel out of it, and you're always uninterruptible while spraying (but not while charging)

[vapid lichen]

does anyone have tips for staying alive
I've learned how to do slides with a staff pretty well but a lot of the time i feel like one or two guys slips through my attention and I get owned
sometimes i see people who barely even need 1 medicae the entire time and im like, i wish i could play like that

[jolly cedar]

its all about the team

some people like me will draw an insane amount of aggro towards themselves

so u dont really have anything to deal with

[spice veldt]

i'd spam dodges and avoid playing reactively if you don't need to

you can go a long way by just spamming dodges and not having to dedicate any brainpower towards that

[left mirage]

different tools

m1 for stagger, m2 for burn

[vapid lichen]

i read in the pinned guide that running a stamina curio is great for surviability, does it actually make so much of a difference that i should get one
ive just been running 2x toughness and 1x health for now

[jolly cedar]

Is it just me or are on hit damage buffs substantially better than on kill effects?

I thought that dum dum was a trash version of death spitter

but it seems that death spitter isnt even active 90% of the time

[potent echo]

wait was obscurus H1 always an overhead

or did they change that

[spice veldt]

always an overhead

i like its animation

sliding your hand along the blade and then striking down

[potent echo]

i thought it was a sideways one in the beta

[stable silo]

@jolly cedar dum dum is bugged to proc on farther ranges

[left mirage]

nah they fixed that

on hits are easier to proc and arent that much worse than on kill

%age wise anyway

the real issue is that on kill blessings have too short of a timer + all stacks disappear once they time out

only real exception is slaughterer because when you're cutting through chaff the timer isnt an issue

i hope this is barely good enough for blaze trauma

need nexus 4 so ill eventually have to upgrade

[spice veldt]

the description doesn't really say anything about the distance at which it procs

the close distance part is about the damage bonus you get from dumdum, which does seem to be correct

[potent echo]

fixed? i just know dumdum procs around 15m

[fresh reef]

certainly one of the scoreboards of all time

take a guess as to which vet wasn't running plasma lul

also, purgatus/Dome/EP BB is still really fun, so I made it into a separate loadout

blazing trauma on the right, purgatus on the left, differentiated by only the shoes

also, a quick question about soulblaze application

if I apply 6 soulblaze stacks via Blazing Spirit, then 6 from Creeping Flames, will proccing Blazing repeatedly refresh the full 12 stacks? Is it possible to stack up to the soulblaze cap like this?

[strong gulch]

I have not tested anything pursonally. I'd have to get the debuff mod to really look.

According to Pygex's Anthemeum in the soulblaze section, "Weapons cannot increase nor upkeep the amount of stacks on the target beyond their respective caps."

[pale pilot]

yeah having used the mentioned mod, that is true

[wind halo]

Anyone remember what is that magical toughness number to stop shotgunners one shotting your whole pool again?

129/139?

[tulip trench]

i need some clarification
on reddit people talk about how surge staff is great for stunning lots of elites, and thats why its better than purge
but earlier when i asked in this channel, people were saying surge is just a single target damage staff and smite was for stunning
surge staff does chain though no?

[wind halo]

Only chains to 1 or 2 other targets

[tulip trench]

ok and thats not the bug right
thats intended?

[wind halo]

Its a DPS weapon with some stunning, use Smite for dedicated stunning

[spice veldt]

it chained to more enemies prior to patch 13

patch 13 reduced its target count but bumped up its damage

could also be people mixing up surge and smite

[tulip trench]

ok so reddit really made it seem like the full on stun tool
they were definitely talking about surge cause it was a post about staffs

[wind halo]

Chained targets do not take much damage from Surge, only the primary

[tulip trench]

so instead of using surge, BB, melee
im probably better off using surge, smite, melee

and using surge where i wouldve used BB before

[wind halo]

You can Surge close range and BB long range, but abit redundant yes

[tulip trench]

ya i was using surge as a stunning tool

and it was underwhelming

cause i was expecting the reddit post stun lmao

[pure edge]

Does anyone know what the Purgatus staff is for? I haven't found a single use for it on any difficulty. Lightning does its job better, and its not worth giving up the other three staffs for it. Am I using it wrong or is it just useless?

[wind halo]

That said Smite is also redundant with Surge, only use for large groups of Crushers/Ragers that you can't kill instantly

[spice veldt]

purg has infinite cleave and applies soulblaze in a wide area

i wouldn't bring it but you can't go wrong with it

[tulip trench]

purge applies soulblaze?

[wind halo]

You hear the Horde sound cue, you station yourself in the direction the horde comes from, you unless alt fire and it dies

[spice veldt]

ye

[wind halo]

You see a bunch of ragers coming in, you stand infront of them and spam primary fire, they are perma stunned

[pure edge]

Can't bio lightning with psionics just do infinitely better?

[spice veldt]

there's the direct damage component and the soulblaze application of the LMB and RMB

[fresh reef]

You can also bring diet Purg by way of Smite + Creeping Flames

[wind halo]

I mean if we are counting bug exploits, sure

[pure edge]

There is a bug?

[spice veldt]

soulblaze's damage isn't that bad

[pure edge]

Actually, don't tell me, I'll want to use it.

[fresh reef]

No lol

[spice veldt]

you're probably getting mixed up by the non-linear stacking of soulblaze's damage

[tulip trench]

creeping flames?

[fresh reef]

Soulblaze-applying branch of Venting Shriek

Side note: never ever ever take the one that does direct damage over Creeping Flames

It is just worse in every conveivable way

[pure edge]

Helpful, thanks!

[tulip trench]

is venting shriek any good?

[pure edge]

I'll have to try the Psykhanium for a bit then.

Thanks guys.

[fresh reef]

Arguably the best ability

[wind halo]

Actually I misread, thought you meant Surge which is bugged with Psionics. I don't think Smite will do as much damage as a Purgatus

[tulip trench]

shield just seems so friggin strong
bubble in particular

[sterile grove]

There is a second upgrade for it which does 100-200% damage depending on your peril percentage

[fresh reef]

Mass stagger, horde clear, can chunk specialists or kill them outright

Easily deals with snipers

[spice veldt]

not that you'll want to run that over creeping flames

[fresh reef]

And my favorite feature is being able to save the one goober who got pounced by a hound on the level above me

[pure edge]

On heresy it can kill crowds on its own, specials included, but eats up at least 80 peril. Purgatus might do the same thing but with less, I don't know.

[sterile grove]

Very helpful with horde

[fresh reef]

Arco you can't just deadname Creeping Flames like that smh

[spice veldt]

😔

ascendant blaze is a cooler name

[fresh reef]

True

[tulip trench]

it can hit snipers? whats the range on it?

[fresh reef]

30 meters

[tulip trench]

i guess most maps are within that tbh

[fresh reef]

Though it's a strict 30 meters, like 30.1m won't hit the target

[ornate hamlet]

look at my face

[wind halo]

I'm on Damnation and Purge does the same but you can channel infinitely with some peril management. The perk is you don't have to bring Smite I guess.

[fresh reef]

So if you're using tags as a range finder just go to 29

[ornate hamlet]

look at my brothers face

should I buy this from melksy

[fresh reef]

Sienna but E Ville

[sterile grove]

Won't matter if you're not planning on using a staff (me)

[pure edge]

Bring staff, get Assail/Brain Burst instead. Y/N?

[wind halo]

I have Purgatus with Brainburst for all range combat

[pure edge]

I'll give it a try. Thanks Vero.

[ornate hamlet]

😈

[fresh reef]

Good luck hitting that hound off your teammate through the wall

[sterile grove]

I'm always close to my mates

For some odd reason

Except for zealots they always go ahead

[tulip trench]

its that much better than bubble?

[fresh reef]

You're always close to them, but what about when you encounter Lag-behind Larry or Runaway Randy?

[fresh reef]

They're both great

[left mirage]

i think it used to proc no matter what distance

[fresh reef]

Shield is a safer, easier to use pick. Shriek is more versatile

[sterile grove]

Haven't yet, although im lag behind larry in some occasion

[tulip trench]

i guess venting if theres another pysker, bubble for PUBS

[left mirage]

so you'd be pelting a sniper and benefitting from dumdum

[fresh reef]

Ehh, not really actually

[wind halo]

Pubs usually bring Bubble for what its worth

[fresh reef]

Stacked bubbles gives you insane uptime, or if you double cast that's 20% toughness/second and an effective ~85% toughness DR when they vanish

Stacked shriek gives 12 stacks of soulblaze if used simultaneously, which can melt through hordes that much faster

Or back to back can clear two waves effortlessly

[tulip trench]

i wish there was more ability to do a soulblaze "build"

seems like a cool effect

[wind halo]

Purgatus and Trauma builds?

[tulip trench]

true i didnt realize purge applied it

[wind halo]

And isnt anything a Soulblaze build if you take all the Soulblaze nodes and blessings on staff

[potent echo]

I only ever use bubble for myself

Or just throw it on the team then run off to get plasteel

[fresh reef]

Based selfish gamer

[fresh reef]

Genuine mvp behavior

[wind halo]

Plot twist: Where I am is where my team are, ultimate chad team leader

[potent echo]

I don't think it's super valuable, just very comfy

[spice veldt]

you can still proc dumdum at far distances

the close distance part applies to the damage bonus

[fresh reef]

You may have 500k damage, but I'm the real carry here

I picked up 500 Plasteel

[potent echo]

Plasteel gaming

If you don't get 800 plasteel per match are you even playing darktide

[wind halo]

The real carry farms Diamantine

[quick python]

the only scoreboard stat that matters

[tulip trench]

as a new player who didnt understand endgame weapon gambling and spent a lot of their mats before full comprehending it...
i feel this on a spiritual level

[wind halo]

The real endgame is not caring about resources

[quick python]

I just play the game at this point

[feral knoll]

So. Is Soulblaze just. Overall worth bringing at all?

[fresh reef]

Yes

[feral knoll]

Next question. Is it worth bringing the Soulblaze warp charge keystone modifier. Or just bring the other more general one

[crystal oxide]

Use assail spam

Macross missile massacre and percision misisle strikes

[royal ibex]

im hoping u15 fixes it

[potent echo]

If you bring purge, for sure

Anyone who kills it while it's on fire, you can get a charge

For yourself always ignite enemies first before killing them with your sword or assail or smth

[severe folio]

this is understandable

would do the same but i stick my coherency 90% of the time so it doesnt make a difference

[left mirage]

i used to run it but now im using smite because crusher swarms

[left mirage]

any kind of soulblaze application works, so purg / blaze trauma

hell, even just the two soulblaze talents and a large enough mixed horde

[hidden crystal]

I've had a hefty hiatus since the class overhaul; I wasn't in the mindset for relearning all the changes at the time, and it took some friends on another server starting up with the game to get me to try to re-familiarise myself with the game.

After chewing through the talent tree to try to approximate my old build again, I figured I probably shouldn't be jumping straight back into Damnation straight off, so the Hi-Heresy on the mission board seemed like a good bet.

It was... a bit dramatic, and I ended up finally getting the Leave No One Behind penance for having to rescue all the rest of the team at least once.

[crystal oxide]

What were you using to block so many attacks that effectively?

[hidden crystal]

(I realise I did go a bit heavy on the med-stations, but often it was a case of that or a total wipe).

[hidden crystal]

Deflector blessing on the Force Sword and the Kinetic Deflection perk (or whatever they've renamed it to these days).

Oh, and a +3 Stamina Curio.

It was often a case of pulling team members onto their feet in the middle of a horde.

And that combination does give you enough block to tank light enemies when you're doing that.

And there were probably also a couple of cases of having to block ranged fire too.

[potent echo]

Doesn't work anymore

In the case of picking people up

[hidden crystal]

That's meant to be a separate point.

I had to get people up. I had to block ranged fire. I'm aware the two weren't concurrent.

[cosmic sigil]

i love the macross reference, gotta listen to that again https://youtu.be/l8RqB5RBQ0A?si=ze8ePRQvOGeObZp9

[hidden crystal]

(And I can see why not, because with just how tanky a psyker's block can be, having them nigh invulnerable during a revive is ridiculous).

[feral knoll]

Wait. Does the fire from Purge count as Soulblaze?

[left mirage]

ye

the thing im not sure of is if soulblaze counts as a warp attack

for the purposes of the +warp dmg and the +tough on warp kill

[hidden crystal]

The next mission when I dropped back to Uprising to join up with one of said friends is one of the sillier stat screens I've had.

[feral knoll]

Vanilla Psyker is so weird to go to after starting with Smite and Assail

[hoary badge]

Even with purg, I still find vampire better as you gonna fill up charges on hordes regardless of what you take, but vampire has the flexibility of accumulating charges from both ally kills and melee combat

[left mirage]

oh okay, so soulblaze does count for warp attacks

good to know

[hidden crystal]

We quickly concluded that unless I was going to start with a fresh character, we should probably move to Malice.

[crystal oxide]

Good god I am loving the columnus on my Pysker

[hidden crystal]

At which point said friend jumped several levels in one mission.

[obtuse moth]

if something is on fire, you dont have to kill it for it to count

[crystal oxide]

Twice in the last run we had 5 plus ragers that would have ended us

I just went full auto with the benefit of Disrupt Destiny giving me a nice target locked blue outline around them

Seeing the killfeed just pop up with ded ragers is nice

[obtuse moth]

if more than half the enemies that die have soulblaze on it, vampire is worse since the soulblaze trait has 2.5x the conversion efficiency

[hoary badge]

I am aware, I've used both and despite the stats on paper I still find myself having more consistent uptime on vampire

[glad lark]

why does this look like that lmao

[obtuse moth]

ah your phrasing " vampire has the flexibility of accumulating charges from both ally kills and melee combat" seemed to imply something else

[near wyvern]

If you have assails, throw a couple before going full auto since they stagger ragers

[hidden crystal]

I'm still going to have to look at "most things that aren't down the left side of the talent tree" at some point, but I figured that for getting back into it I should start by seeing how well my pre-overhaul build (or as close as I could approximate it) worked.

[crystal oxide]

I did!

It helped a lot. But my columnus admitedly has a very solid roll on it

Get within 10 meters and you die kinda roll

[near wyvern]

Dumdum 4 + Fire Frenzy 4 is better for Psykers

Raking Fire is more for zealots

But yeah it's a neat gun and absolutely shreds with true aim

[hoary badge]

Raking fire is lowkey a +specialist dmg blessing with how funky their AI is

[worthy spoke]

Hey guys, can this be saved?

[cosmic sigil]

or vet, but raking is situationally good, most of the time you'll get more benefits from dumdum + ff/ds or ff + ds

[lethal lagoon]

Change executor to salughter, and specialists to whatever.

and pray they buff deflector 🙏

Uncanny is also fine

[worthy spoke]

i got slaughterer 4 so thats a good one

thanks

[cosmic sigil]

block to flak or maniac oO

[lethal lagoon]

But then you are stuck with deflector either way, might as well give it a slight buff

[worthy spoke]

ya deflector sounds neat at least. never actually used it though

[hidden crystal]

Melk had a Vraks VII that looked... okay. Not great, but I've wanted to get one I could actually slap T4 Ghost on for a while (I had it banked, but it's never come up on one I wanted to keep), and given the patch notes reported some changes to it I figured it was worth experimenting with again.

[lethal lagoon]

Deflector is fun to mess around with, better than just a bricked sword

[hidden crystal]

Getting the most out of it needs either Stamina curios or the Peril blocking feat (which at least used to be called Kinetic Deflection, but everything's been renamed, so I have no idea now).

[cosmic sigil]

deflector is your own portable shield really

[wind halo]

The real question is why would anyone miss out on that feat when its so easy to get

[hidden crystal]

Note that it does not work against snipers.

[lethal lagoon]

Peril blocking is usually one of the "choice" talents.

You are giving up perilous combusiton or something like that for it

So I wouldn't say easy

[wind halo]

It is easy to me, no shot I'm giving that up, you have to be trolling

[hoary badge]

I don't take it on a trauma siphon build as siphon is greedy on points

And I don't need pathing for true aim

[exotic tulip]

Don't know if anyone else has been doing this, but whenever I get a purple staff I turn its blessing into a low rank of terrifying barrage, so that I don't get a high rank of it and can change it back later

Especially useful on the staffs that only have 3 tier 4 blessings.

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, peril block is usually most useful in situations where the mission is probably a failure anyways.

So it's tough to consider it in my opinion

fun to use though

[hidden crystal]

Entertaining to use with the Peril to Toughness talents (of which there's apparently two now...), because you can convert incoming fire into toughness.

[cosmic sigil]

we started doing that at least 6 months ago 😄

even with caxes to lower the chance of getting limbsplitter 😄

[hidden crystal]

But peril block is one of my favourite talents - indeed, it can be used to channel damage into toughness via other talents, it makes you tanky enough to revive people in the middle of a horde, and sometimes it is just useful to be able to block ranged damage.

[crystal oxide]

Man they really did the recon lasguns dirty.

Had this vet follwoing along needed more than half a mag to drop a mutie

[vestal tree]

Why does psyker feel... ehh

[crystal oxide]

I did it with a quarter of my mag in the columnus.

[lethal lagoon]

Recon was always bad on muties though

Muties have really weird damage numbers in general

[hidden crystal]

This is pre-overhaul, but I also experimented with this stupidity (you simply don't have enough block for this without peril blocking):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1146960964147757219/2023-09-01_01-04-57.mp4

[lethal lagoon]

I mean obviously if you are using deflector, peril block is required.

It's half the point.

[fresh reef]

Well shit, looks like I need to farm up yet another couple of +17% toughness curios

[lethal lagoon]

That's a cool clip btw

Oh, did you see the Ogryn dicussion just now? Or just concidence?

[fresh reef]

Coincidence lol

[hidden crystal]

It was interesting to see just how fast "Quickdraw" really was.

[lethal lagoon]

I literally just talked about 190ish toughness and feel no pain blocking a sniper 5 minutes ago haha.

[lofty temple]

I LOVE Psykers, but you know what I don't love? HALF THEIR BLOODY VOICES!

[bold maple]

I hate all their voices tbh

the german accent one is the least cringy one

[vestal tree]

ong

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker voices seem like a hit or miss in every warhammer game

[lofty temple]

Seriously?

lol

[vestal tree]

the only decent one is the rightoues one

[lofty temple]

German is obnoxious, that's why I picked it

[bold maple]

the obnoxious is on brand intentional at least

the other 2 just tries too hard and end up being cringe

[lofty temple]

I like the Seer

[bold maple]

one is an edge lord the other ranting about his delusion is eh

[vestal tree]

the obnoxious one is the best

It's a good laugh

[lofty temple]

https://youtu.be/0FLvtdllWhY?si=UktN2Uq2Jc89Q4_X

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, I like all the male ones. Only good female one is Leliana from dragon age.

[bold maple]

everytime I reach 100% peril I cringe a little

can I just get a mute psyker who keep it to himself so he dont get shot by a commissar

yk, a smart one

[lofty temple]

I think the male voices are better for most personalities

[hidden crystal]

I'm not entirely qualified to comment on this, given my levelling was all pre-class overhaul and I've mostly been on a hiatus since the overhaul, but I found that psyker was... slow to get started when levelling.
Certain of the staves are underwhelming with low stats, it gives them to you in a silly order, and some of the major talents were only available at late levels.

Even at max level, they're a bit finicky to play, being the frailest of the classes (in theory they can get very impressive block, but blocking is active on your part, not just passive resilience).

But, with a good build, psykers can make pretty versatile multitools.

[lofty temple]

I made a new psyker

It's ez

[left mirage]

blaze trauma seems fun

still have to get used to the peril gen

[obtuse moth]

psyker was one of the easiest to level because brainburst let you fight stronger enemies than gear would have allowed you to dispatch. which meant you can jump into higher difficulties and get more exp quickly. definitely the squishiest though. now assail makes it even easier

[left mirage]

since ive been popping occasionally

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma is ass for your teammate without healthbars on though. Fun build that rewards skill though.

[bold maple]

if you thought psyker was hard to level try zealot

it's utter crap lmao

playing other class makes me appreciate bb

[obtuse moth]

definitely a different level of difficulty always trying to cast above 80%

[left mirage]

ye

i kinda wanna make a vid recon for gunpsyk

it seems to be a bit better than laspistol overall

since you have solid anti-ranged

it'll eat ammo like crazy but tbh you burn as much with pistol anyway

[obtuse moth]

laspistol is love for murdering monstrosities

i use bullets when i run out of peril or assail

my favorite is still revolver atm, my friend does really well with vraks mk3

[hidden crystal]

I guess things have changed somewhat now that warp charges aren't tied to BBing (and are an optional buried right at the bottom of the list).

But when I was first levelling, it was still at the point where warp charges all dropped off as one, and Psychic Communion to keep your charges passively topped up wasn't available until Lvl 15. So one veteran thinking your blue BB halo was a targetting suggestion could send you straight back to zero and mess up all your breakpoints.

[left mirage]

revolver rending bless + assail is funny

gets even dumber with emp + fullstack gaze

[obtuse moth]

i just ignored the warp charge mechanic unless it was for ascendant blaze tbh. on leveling difficulties you still oneshot mutants and dispatch crushers and bulwarks easily

[left mirage]

blaze trauma is hard but not as hard as gunpsyk imo

[hidden crystal]

I'm talking about Warp Charges effect on all your damage, not just BBs.

[fresh reef]

Why do healthbars make a difference here, exactly?

[obtuse moth]

if you're leveling gear drops every time you come out of a mission are going to be a much more significant factor hitting breakpoints and contribute to much more inconsistency, as well as regular difficulty changes

[lethal lagoon]

Making sure all the shit you knock around is dead and not smacking your teammates on the back is infinitiely harder if no one has healthbars on.

Same thing for managing how much you charge right click

Whenever I see trauma, it's usually "I'm helping guys" while fucking their team.

[obtuse moth]

i suppose, but i either trauma far away or in a way that consistently covers teammates

[hidden crystal]

There were enough times I was having to make the choice between weapons based on whether something was just barely failing to kill common enemy types.

[fresh reef]

I mean, this is largely a skill issue on the psyker's part if things are getting tossed and not dying

[lethal lagoon]

the outer part of the ring always tosses, not sure what your point is

As I said, healthbars.

Also it's easy to be obvilous to the problems you are causing with trauma at times

Don't get me wrong, I love using trauma, takes extra brainpower though

[fresh reef]

If you aren't killing the things you can see being tossed, it is skill issue. Or at least like, awareness issue

[obtuse moth]

tbh i find debuff display much more important to trauma blaze than healthbars

[fresh reef]

Not too hard to tell when they're dead either since Trauma always gibs

[obtuse moth]

its less about killing them and more about properly tossing them imo

[fresh reef]

I also just have Smite if I feel the need to crowd control around my melee frontliners

[hidden crystal]

But even if you want to argue about the exact mathematics, there's still the psychological element of trying to keep the charges full. And I know some people say they just ignored them...

... but the game mostly throws you in the deep end as far as trying to work out what you should and shouldn't worry about, and what everything means.

[fresh reef]

Even with them being a conscious build decision I still ignore them lol

"oh hey, 30% cdr. Neat"

[hidden crystal]

And in that respect "charges full" is definitely more desirable than "charges empty", and given you've only got a limited testing facility unless you mod the game, it's hard to really evaluate what is and isn't worth it.

[obtuse moth]

its not that hard, you just play as if you have zero charges. if something dies sooner its a happy accident.

[fresh reef]

This is the way

[hidden crystal]

its not that hard
It is if the game doesn't explain it other than "more charges good".

[obtuse moth]

sure it does, you look down and your charges drop

oh i dont have charges

[lethal lagoon]

I remember when the game didn't explain that without max warp charges, your push didn't remove dogs from people

[strong gulch]

Fresh out of beta psyker and the need to keep the warp charges up def bunched up my brain.

I'm neurospicy and could NOT ignore it.

[obtuse moth]

and the tooltips explained how much you got from it, which was enough for me to understand it. i also understood that even if i tried to keep them up they would get stolen and completely fall off, and that rushing to keep them up caused the game to fail more than not doing it

[lethal lagoon]

The great psyker vet war over not shooting glowing blue targets that literally begged to be shot

[hidden crystal]

I'm neurospicy and could NOT ignore it.
That's also a factor.

[obtuse moth]

because pulling stuff you shouldnt yet caused wipes. or runnning off far from the group. thats basic gamesense and awareness that requires no psyker specific knowledge

[lethal lagoon]

See that glowing blue weakspot? Don't shoot it.

[obtuse moth]

thats the real factor lol, you can't ignore it

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, my BB got intruppted so you got trapped because you ignored the glowing blue trapper? Skill issue.

🙂

[potent echo]

I saw a zealot trying to kill a sniper with a brauto, I said let me brain burst it

"What's that?"

[lethal lagoon]

tbf it's brain rupture.

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, as far as my many complaints as far as the tutorial in this game, not including a basic primer in the advanced tutorial that makes sure players have at least a vague understanding of the other classes' features is right near the top of the list.

[potent echo]

No one who doesn't already know/want-to-know will read it

Even if you force it on them they wouldn't internalise or remember it

[hidden crystal]

I hope school teachers don't take up this strategy of not even trying to teach anyone stuff some people might forget.

[bold maple]

thank fuck this isnt a school

die a few times, git gud, tis the way

[wind halo]

It isnt?

Alot of kids around

[bold maple]

kids can hang around places that arent school, crazy

[wind halo]

So its a daycare, got it

[bold maple]

dont have kids if you only let them to stay at home and go to school

[potent echo]

I mean no one is gonna teach you how to have a good time

[bold maple]

vermintide didnt have hand-holding and flyers in tutorials either, works fine

[serene drift]

Zealot chat taking a nap

Hello, witches

[potent echo]

hey gamers

[serene drift]

No one except the pretty lady behind the Denny’s

[rigid rune]

thanks Hadron 🙂

[silk hawk]

Current anime season is kinda garbage or its just me?

So many titles that are just so mid....

[potent echo]

nice

low warp res, peak purgatus

[fresh reef]

Very nice

[hidden crystal]

Vermintide had fewer variables. Much less choice of ranged weapons (at least initially) and much less focus on them, your party was always four out of the same five characters (and you'd often have to swap to and learn different classes because you can't have three Kerillians) and did the first one even have career talents or special abilities?

[rigid rune]

first attempt at rolling a purge staff too lol

[hidden crystal]

I feel like in the first one the difference between the classes was mostly just what weapons they could have.

[silk hawk]

Why everyone suddenly go purge, did they buff it or something?

[rigid rune]

I have a good voidstrike and trauma staff just trying new things 🙂

[hidden crystal]

Although admittedly those weapons could be very different. I remember the hilarity of the Trueflight Longbow before they tweaked its seeking ability.

[desert mirage]

I never know if these are worth getting

[cold hornet]

Been trying to build a surge staff, what's the deal with crits on it? I did a run where I thought I had a base rating of >30% crit chance, but after action scoreboard only showed a 24% crit rate

[hidden crystal]

Inspiration for Yondu in the Guardians of the Galaxy films, I believe.

[frank fulcrum]

You're usually looking for a max hp as a blessing i believe, and atleast one 4 pip perk (toughness regen, max hp, dmg res vs annoying enemies for stats, OR ordo dockets if you're farming)

[fluid knot]

Absolutely it is not better than Laspistol

[frank fulcrum]

But I could definitely be mistaken, might want to ask a more experienced player here

[desert mirage]

I have a 19% health blue currently

[wet belfry]

Ideal curio stats are abit more complicated since the talent update

[fluid knot]

Laspistol is up there in the top five weapons this patch, recons are in the bottom 5, maybe even contending for worst ranged option

[silk hawk]

Rngesus was not on your side xD

[frank fulcrum]

Pygex is a pretty good player in terms of knowledge, he could point you in the right direction

[fresh reef]

Usually no

[silk hawk]

+wound curios are for zealots i think

[fresh reef]

And by usually I mean like, 99% no

[desert mirage]

I know stam for psyker is good

[fluid knot]

Plus one wound if you're trying to go up a difficulty tier an are adjusting to it is fine, but ideally you dont run more than one

[fresh reef]

+1 wound on Psyker is okayish, given how frail you are

[fluid knot]

An once you're used to said difficulty, you ditch said wound anyway

[fresh reef]

But generally you get more mileage out of +health and +toughness

[silk hawk]

Just git gud and dont die

🙂

[royal ibex]

just had a round with another scryers psyker using columus. we had a total of 5 monstrosities, 2 being DHs, none lasted longer than 15 seconds

this shits hilarious

[silk hawk]

I prefer +3 stamina and 2x +hp

[fresh reef]

Since they allow for more mini mistakes instead of saving you once more from a big fuck-up

Which more often than not can't be rezzed anyway

[jolly cedar]

3x stamina on all classes is the only way to go

[frank fulcrum]

what blessings are good on columnus btw? Been trying to get one on either psyker or vet

[fresh reef]

Personally I run 2x Toughness and +3 stam, with +hp, +toughness, and +corruption resist

[royal ibex]

dumdum/speedload was what the other was using

[silk hawk]

Deathspitter and dumdum

[frank fulcrum]

Gotcha

[royal ibex]

saying in the anthaeum dumdum/fire frenzy

[desert mirage]

is 15% toughness the best

or can it go higher

[royal ibex]

17% is the highest

[desert mirage]

fug

[silk hawk]

Not that it matters too much xD

[fresh reef]

Yeah, unless you count a couple niche breakpoints

[frank fulcrum]

21% for hp, 17% for toughness

[fresh reef]

Like being able to tank a full shotgunner hit, for example

At like 140 toughness or something

[silk hawk]

I think i saw 22% hp

[frank fulcrum]

Jesus, I've only seen 21s and that was only like, twice

[fresh reef]

21% is the current cap

[silk hawk]

I legit saw it only once and it was on someone's screenshot

[cosmic sigil]

fake

[cosmic sigil]

i thought that was the bp a few months ago. @spice veldt?

[spice veldt]

no idea nowadays

there's the toughness reduction nodes as well to consider

[fresh reef]

I will now let a shotgunner shoot me directly in the face

for science

[limber tartan]

You might want to hold onto something

[fresh reef]

in other news, I picked up a hoodie from a garage sale today for $2

no holes, no stitching fuck ups, and it fits me perfectly

such an absolute W

[lunar hollow]

simply play ogryn and tank everything except attacks that are coded to ignore toughness for at least part of the damage they deal (overheads)

[crystal oxide]

I dont think I've ever come across two Vets with no way to counter a single crusher

But here we are lol

[frank fulcrum]

"Part of the damage" as my small psyker body is obliterated by a gliding crusher overhead

[silk hawk]

As long as ass sale barrage can wipe out a whole squad of shotgunners, that ain't gonna happen xD

[crystal oxide]

The two had full health and they died to a single one xD

A sniper one tapped the zealot next to me in the next section, then a dog flew through an entire horde then nailed me

[fresh reef]

in order to take an entire blast from a dreg shotgunner, you need every toughness node +10% toughness damage reduction

[lunar hollow]

at what range

[fresh reef]

close range

wasn't aware they had damage falloff though

[potent echo]

you need like 180~ toughness for that

[silk hawk]

Face lick range xD

[fresh reef]

lemme actually test for distance

[potent echo]

yea their range fall off is pretty severe

[lunar hollow]

they used to basically not

part of the december shotgunner menace stuff

[potent echo]

yea they own you lmao

[lunar hollow]

every ranged enemy except snipers should have falloff damage iirc

[silk hawk]

Shooters resist when?

[potent echo]

its called toughness

[fresh reef]

198( 17%+17%+16%+5%+5%+5%) toughness + 10% toughness reduction from talent nodes

[silk hawk]

Kekw

[fresh reef]

5 meters

[left mirage]

i just had a run on the tower map

the staircase towers

and a beast of nurgle spit me off the map

i didnt even know it could do that

[tame venture]

i had it once spit me into a wall

i was completely stuck

[potent echo]

yea with some peril plus the peril resist warp you can probably get away with 160 toughness maybe

[left mirage]

it spat me across from one tower to the first one

on the outside edge

and the second i move i slip off

[tame venture]

i could see the outside of the map, and fell out of the world

[fresh reef]

probably so

not to mention you're probably not gonna get hit by the full blast

[tame venture]

by the way, how many people use a wound curio? i'm still heavily conflicted on if or how i could use one.
i'm addicted to the +3stam +health +toughness relics i got

[fresh reef]

oh yeah, it's gun psyker time

and then she gunkered all over the place

[hidden coral]

Lmao, an ability to telepathically fire your gun would be great

Just be super extra and unnecessary

[tame venture]

honestly i had a thought eariler

[crystal oxide]

So.. How do I use the mkV force sword?

[fresh reef]

warp absoprtion my beloved

[crystal oxide]

It looks like my psyker infuses a single typical light or heavy attack with force energy

[tame venture]

what if psykers had access to shotguns, but the pellets always land in certain patterns, that make up symbols

[crystal oxide]

So, a discount power sword?

[potent echo]

only 135 toughness required nice

[tame venture]

this is in pins, and gives 2 ideas for the mkV
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

The Illisi Mk V is a very good anti-horde solution with decent single target damage, best paired with Uncanny Strike and Slaughterer. The special on Illisi simply increases the damage and cleave of your next swing and it is possible to build around the special spam and make it semi-effective mixed horde solution as well.

If you want to go for a fire sword build, Shred + Blazing Spirit on an Illisi is your best option as you need to hit as many targets as you can and you need them to survive the critical hits in order to catch on fire. However, this style of play is being held back a lot by the Warpfire bugs and you are always better off by going into more direct damage approach.

[fresh reef]

also only running +5% toughness DR btw

[potent echo]

they stack multiplicatively so its less than that

[fresh reef]

true

[tame venture]

is your psyker having a seizure?

[crystal oxide]

Okay the guide deffo implies its basically discount power sword lol

[fresh reef]

that's just a thing that happens at high peril

[crystal oxide]

So not like what I'm used to with the Deimos

[fresh reef]

everyone gets it

[fresh reef]

discount power sword but with 12.5% toughness regen on kill lol

and far better mobility

[crystal oxide]

What talent allows that for force swords?

[fresh reef]

take Soulstealer for +7.5 on warp attack kill

all melee attack kills give 5% by default

[crystal oxide]

Ahhh

Huh.. Okay that's interesting. Didn't know special spam counts as a waro kill

[tame venture]

the mkIV is what i mostly use though

normal spams for hordes with specials for elites or specalists

bosses too

[fresh reef]

it's a little silly

and a general rule, if the attack is blue and/or makes them look like this on hit, it's a warp attack

[tame venture]

kinda want to see what it does when it's hitting max cleave

[fresh reef]

it gets more silly

[tame venture]

0 to 100% in one swipe?

[fresh reef]

hypothetically, yes

[crystal oxide]

Seems to be the sword to use for psykers using BB and a stave

Having good single target and anti armour, but cant handle spread out trash too efficiently

[fresh reef]

note that I am very intentionally not blocking in that clip lol

[crystal oxide]

Right now my build I lack dedicated anti-armour, so I guess Deimos is the way to go

[exotic tulip]

Sustained fire on staffs gives the power buff the the first 3 attacks still?

[cold hornet]

Is there a reason to run toughness regen anymore with how most talents give instant toughness gain?

[fresh reef]

toughness regen is still very, very good

[tame venture]

i feel like i'm a bit of a brainlet and still havent' really picked up all the details of melee fighting. when is blocking needed or used

it's also late for me too so maybe i'm juust being tired

[fresh reef]

+90% gives you toughness very quickly. It lets you make more small mistakes passively

[fresh reef]

It's nearly 3 in the morning for me but I'm A. getting my ass kicked by food poisoning and B. hopped up on 200mg of caffeine so I don't quite literally shit the bed

the power of ✨ pain ✨

[crystal oxide]

When you hear the melee sound and you arnt sure where, block, you can turn and dealw ith the staggered enemy

[frank fulcrum]

Usually blocking is good for multiple small enemies taking staggered swings at you

[crystal oxide]

Dodging is also possible, but you can sometimes dodge into the threat and get smacked right after your dodge

funni

[frank fulcrum]

And what Icowom said, if you aren't sure the direction

[fresh reef]

important thing to note with ddoges

[rigid rune]

hey do warp charges increase the burn damage on purg?

[fresh reef]

they DO NOT give you iframes

[frank fulcrum]

Dodging is good against one or two large enemies taking very choreographed swings at you

[fresh reef]

they only cause the enemy to lose their tracking

[spice veldt]

they do give i-frames

[frank fulcrum]

They do not give iframes

[spice veldt]

for melee, the game just makes an extra check for how close you are to the enemy

[crystal oxide]

If you wonder why you can sprint 10 meter past an enemy and they still hit you, thats the bullshit tracking

[glossy ember]

it works all the time so it's nice.

err i mean

all the time in coherency

[spice veldt]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ZsChcKG__MbdB/d1337e8DG9aj?invite=cr-MSxqenIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

enemies like crushers have a short dodge catch, so you can just spotdodge them pretty much all the time

[frank fulcrum]

I do in fact stand corrected

I'm just used to ragers hitting me through dodges

[spice veldt]

the 4-hit combos of ragers do have a long dodge catch that you pretty much just have to get out of the way of

yeah

[frank fulcrum]

Ahhh

[spice veldt]

they're quite threatening once they get close to you

esp now they've got the health (2.4k) to reach you before getting dinked down

[fresh reef]

shoutout to psyker for having the most ridiculous block efficiency in the game btw

[fresh reef]

I sit corrected

thank you quality 8 textures man

[frank fulcrum]

Is there a doc laying out all the dodge catches for various specials?

Id like to know what enemies I should dodge and what I should block

[spice veldt]

i don't think so

just something you'll figure out through some gruelling hours

[frank fulcrum]

Fair, I usually just dodge my through everything on psyker

[spice veldt]

the attacks that I know have a long dodge catch would be the 4-hit combos of the rager and sword captain boss

[crystal oxide]

Kinda why most of my builds have automatics now.

They just have too much HP for the semi autos

[spice veldt]

and the running attacks of most melee enemies

[fresh reef]

gruelling indeed

[spice veldt]

running attacks are real threatening for that reason

cuz they're both coming at you and they have a long dodge catch

[crystal oxide]

Dodging into the rager doesnt break their combo does it?

[spice veldt]

nay

they also have stagger resistance during their combo

[crystal oxide]

Yeah looks like you just have to run automatics.

[spice veldt]

stuff like the illisi's special, assail's shards, psword's special, and whatnot does stagger them midway through their combo

dreg ragers notably have more stagger resistance than scab ragers

[fresh reef]

doesn't appear so

[crystal oxide]

On Veteran, I dont have anything that can reliably stun and kill them once they catch me with a combo

[bleak tulip]

you can still stagger em out of the combo with mk4 at least

so thats nice

[crystal oxide]

The shovel poke was the only thing that could kinda work? But it needs a headshot

[spice veldt]

oh yeah duelling sword's special

[crystal oxide]

Which is not easy when you're being butt abused by one

[spice veldt]

for the moment, I'm just running the psword and making use of thy grenade be swift (grenade tinkerer giving stun immunity)

[frank fulcrum]

On vet I just drop a nade at my feet and keep dodge blocking

[crystal oxide]

Krak nades heck

[fresh reef]

I mean it kinda is

just because the impact is way stronger on a weakspot doesn't mean you have to hit their weakspot

observe

[bleak tulip]

#psyker-class message mk4 stagger is very nice and combos extraordinately well

[potent echo]

ew no shoes

even plagryn has shoes

whats dreg rager's excuse

[bleak tulip]

too angry for shoes

[fresh reef]

Oh my gawd, step-rager! Put those grippers away!

[fresh reef]

I'm convinced he just ate the shoes

[left mirage]

gravelious grippers

[frank fulcrum]

Concrete clappers

[fresh reef]

I am also displeased to announce that none of their models have shoes either

(also more of kinetic deflection being ridiculous)

[silk hawk]

They are unarmoured for a reason xD

[burnt island]

What are the go to blessings for illisi?

[bleak tulip]

if they had shoes you wouldnt hear them slappy feetsies

[mental grail]

Force swords

It's Illisi > Deimos > Obscurus right?

[cosmic sigil]

special attack on the antax no?

[crystal oxide]

antax?

[cosmic sigil]

combat axe

[crystal oxide]

He kept slipping like those barefoot soccer players

[cosmic sigil]

illisi / deimos > obscurus

[crystal oxide]

Rager is thinking multiple universes ahead lol

[idle bay]

Nope. They have different uses and each in it's own cathegori.
Illsi - antihorde. Deimos single target and boss damage. Obscurus - to hate yourself.

[crystal oxide]

Admitedly I've never used the axe yet

[cosmic sigil]

#psyker-class message

[mental grail]

thank you so much

[rigid rune]

this is a good enough roll?

[cosmic sigil]

[crystal oxide]

On Vet I have, was hard to use. But not on psyker

The swords are all incredibly nice feelin

[potent echo]

no

i mean good enough but i think it might struggle vs shotgunner or scab gunner 1shot

[glossy ember]

should be fine if you prestack perfect timing to 5

probably

[severe folio]

wait until a single trapper is behind that rager horde

[silk hawk]

Its... Kinda bad

[burnt island]

Hadron... You're forgiven for the time being...

[silk hawk]

Hey! Thats pretty good 🙂

[burnt island]

Well I know I'm going to have to put uncanny strike eventually. What perk should I replace?

[silk hawk]

Do even need uncanny on illisi?

[burnt island]

🤷 I've never used this sword before.

[silk hawk]

U use it to kill hordes, i think perks u got for it is top... I am not pretend to be an expert thou 🙂

[glossy ember]

I haven't ran illisi without uncanny

but I think this should be more than fine

[burnt island]

Coolsies

[frail sand]

im tempted to make a soulblaze illisi

even though blazing spirit does nothing for illisi

[glossy ember]

the aethenum had notes about illisi and executor

[fresh reef]

this was fucking hell but we god damn did it

holy shit

[silk hawk]

What did it cost to you?

[fresh reef]

42 minutes and a now-fading adrenaline high

we also had a level 80 zealot who ragequit at the very end

she was going down pretty often, but it still makes me sad

[glossy ember]

Executor: on a timer and drops stacks whenever you hit something else than a weakspot or timer running out but not if you miss an attack. If you cleave through a weakspot and hit another unit to something else than the weakspot, the stacks are dropped as well. All stacks are dropped on DOT ticks as well (bleed, burn and Soulblaze).

[silk hawk]

If u can't endure pain and when playing, u are no real zealot xD

[fresh reef]

I can understand the frustration though

whenever I died and checked damage, it was a pretty even split of 300k

except her, with a little over 100k

this was at the 25 minute mark

[silk hawk]

That sounds broken bad

Maybe it's better to replace then....

[glossy ember]

depends

i think it's still better than either of his perks

[fresh reef]

WHY THE FUCK IS IT SQUISHY

WHY DOES IT MOVE LIKE THAT

[glossy ember]

6% power vs 8% damage to groaners poxwalkers

[burnt island]

I'll replace it when I get a better blessing.

[glossy ember]

6% power probably still wins

[ripe crater]

It doesn't. It's just shadow artifacts

[glossy ember]

plus if you cut several heads

it's way more

[fresh reef]

????

the thing connecting the scalp portion to the collar itself?

that is just a shadow artifact?

[ripe crater]

oh lol

that's just 40k metal?