psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Give some room to someone doing a rez.

[hybrid glade]

Pretty sure you shouldnt be talking about that kind of thing in a public discord homie

[lethal lagoon]

You are making the joke too late, I changed the wording the second time I said it

[clear heath]

yeah but an ogryn shout isn't killing poxwalkers/groaners/bruisers in the next room through a wall

[hybrid glade]

Ya I saw the edit hit but decided to push forward anyways

[clear heath]

these days i just pre-scream at walls just in case

[lethal lagoon]

No there's no edit, just the second time I changed the order lmao

you can scroll up a bit

[hybrid glade]

Oh well then im just dumb

My favorite is killing a mob through the ceiling

With melee

[fading iris]

I love when the Trapper misses the two team members in front of me before net catches me

[lethal lagoon]

I love when I slide into a net someone else dodged

[strong gulch]

You'll be able to play.

If you want it picked apart, exorcist isn't generally great. Uncanny strike + Slaughter will give you a lot of damage. Deflector + slaughter is nice as a defensive option.

Block cost reduction is a waste compared what else you can take. I'd put maniac on it.

[lethal lagoon]

Also push killing snipers by accident is really nice.

[strong gulch]

Getting kicked by a sniper makes me so mad.

[lethal lagoon]

All the kicks just feel so personal and rude

[plucky flax]

I love it when I am in a direct line behind the guy and he dodges the net then it just hit me out of nowhere.

[lethal lagoon]

^

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-orton-rko-andrade-cien-almas-wwe-royal-rumble-gif-10991146

[lethal lagoon]

It'd be way more funny if it didn't lead to a wipe

[dreamy coral]

Hey does anyone know if soulblaze from Blazing spirit count as a warp attack kill?

[strong gulch]

yes

[fading iris]

"watch out watch out watch out"

[glossy ember]

true but 0 aiming

is what i meant

[strong gulch]

All white blue flames are soulblaze.

which is warp

[plucky flax]

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/comments/dv2rbx/i_like_to_rp_like_my_cowboy_invented_pro_wrestling/?ref=share&ref_source=link
One of the greatest game edit

[fading iris]

the secret sauce is love Warp

[dreamy coral]

tyty

[steel flame]

I've had a sniper run all the way across the room to kick me before

I almost let him do it for all his effort

[fading iris]

that was personal

[clear heath]

worst kick i've had was this failed clutch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922136978865156168/1164428959149207632/flamer_kick.mp4?ex=65432df9&is=6530b8f9&hm=19dc4de8739530530128f3e7bb47e1a097f8e825534face5cebcf292e9e2d686&

[lethal lagoon]

And here I thought there wasn't anything worse than a mutant throwing you right onto a poxburster lmao

[fading iris]

That is what plays when you use the Trauma staff

[stuck bridge]

does anyone feel like the surge chain is a little inconsistent with its distance

[fading iris]

"he was indeed, not fine"

[strong gulch]

sad 🥲

Flamer with her foot out just waiting.

[bright mica]

just get over 85% peril and go nuts

[strong gulch]

The chained targets can extend farther out than the main one.

[bright mica]

it will kill most of the horde before it reaches you

maybe the closest chunk will still reach you

i know its good because whenever i use creeping flames i top kill easily 😭

[steel flame]

Stealing kills with your little fire ticks

[strong gulch]

TBH, I forget to use flame shout a lot of the time. Or I'll see teammates happily stabbing a horde and can't bring myself to delete it.

If another wave shows up tho. burn

[normal matrix]

This is currently the build I am running

what'd'you guys think mm?

[plucky flax]

I did 610k total damage and 99k was warpfire with assail handcannon build.

From creeping flame and combustion.

[royal ibex]

current build ive been playing around with, comboing it with a purgation staff and deimos sword. thoughts on how i could improve it, or did i somehow luck out with a decent build

[harsh urchin]

I mean that's why dmg as a stat doesnt matter that much lol

Cuz you're basically doing the kickback equivalent

Of shooting into hordes to farm dmg stat

[plucky flax]

At least psyker warp attack doesn't cost ammo.

[fading iris]

my soul is my ammo, and my ammo is infinite with the help of the ++GOD EMPEROR++

[mossy canopy]

I'd drop one of the stat nodes to take Psykinetic's Aura but otherwise that's the same thing I use

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-26209389

[mossy canopy]

and even that really is personal preference if you want to just hold charges

[royal ibex]

aylmao. ill drop some toughness then. im at 156 atm with current

[languid osprey]

siblings first target matters on illisis?

[royal ibex]

i mean i rarely hit the button anyway, its more a 'oh i edged my perils too closely' or 'thats a lot of enemies around me, can you kindly fuck off for 2 seconds while i help the zealot up'

[plucky flax]

You should ult. Purgatus max stack is 15. Using shriek at high peril will add 6 stacks on top.

[royal ibex]

true

[glossy ember]

this helped a ton thanks

[plucky flax]

Look at this guy trying to cool with the dodge slide quick shot (fail)
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxbjD-tOtLU8ECCOwC5rPQp0Vupi7UYC82

[spice veldt]

it matters on the normals but not on the specials (because the first target stat doesn't affect the damage of special attacks for whatever reason)

[neon steppe]

Purg crits a lot if you have Walt nexus. If you do I’d at least grab the first crit talent at the top of the tree. Kinetic flayer is cool, but I find the other bb subnode much more impactful. I prefer bubble to push with purg. Purg is least likely staff to overheat and never really needs more AoE control and clear. Bubble balances purge greatest weakness ranged enemies. Plus with the warp charge on soulblaze node you almost always have max charges which means you can spam bubbles all map long. Just my opinion though.

[spice oar]

Is there like any reason at all to use the dmg shock wave on shriek? The non fire one?

[maiden cedar]

Almost identical to mine lmao

I love the random headpops on the flames

Makes purge able to kill anything with speed, even crushers n' shit

[feral knoll]

Is Surge a good staff to go along with assail?

[feral verge]

it's random nature and cooldown of 15 seconds make it unreliable for that

[maiden cedar]

Why you Xing? I run that shit in T5 aurics and carry the team

[feral verge]

i run purga too

[maiden cedar]

Skill issue

[feral verge]

i have 100s of hours on it

[maiden cedar]

Push has some truly insane range on it, there's only a few spots I'm completely out of range. But even then, I have BB

[spice veldt]

the skill issue of 1350 base damage every 15 seconds

truly

kinetic flayer was questionable before the skill tree update and it's terrible now

[maiden cedar]

I mean, tbh, I don't even need it

My purge staff melts crushers anyway

[spice veldt]

with uncanny, right?

if you say without uncanny, i'm going to actually stab you

[maiden cedar]

I'm running the stacking recharge and crit? I think?

[spice veldt]

if you say that you play a premade with a rending shockwave psyker, I'm going to stab you

[maiden cedar]

I only solo lmao

[orchid shadow]

It's largely a wasted point now. The only reason it exists is because of the way Warp Charges worked on the inital release of the game.

[feral verge]

there is no world where purga staff 'melts' crushers

what is probably happening is you are setting them on fire, your team are severely damaging them, and then you get the last tick of damage for the kill

[spice veldt]

i forget what the ADM of purg's direct damage is against crushers, but soulblaze deals 10% damage to carapace

[plucky flax]

I can do it in sedition.

[feral verge]

tricking you into thinking you melted them

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame.

[feral verge]

as you can see

purga does dogshit damage to carapace

[ornate hamlet]

la purga

[spice veldt]

wtf are these armour mods

[feral verge]

even with 25% carapace damage, i am sure there is no world where it melts carapace

[spice veldt]

why are 5 of the armour types dealing >100% adm

fatshark

[orchid shadow]

Holy.. 8 damage.

[fresh reef]

I think I might be a bit too protective of my teammates

[spice veldt]

actually pro gamer move

it wouldn't have either registered in my brain or I would've let them die

[flint swallow]

is it worth building crit on purgatus?

[fading iris]

A real teammate would let him fly so he learn to check the explosive items in the map

[shy pewter]

Barrels are the deadliest enemies in the game fr

[fresh reef]

no, I need to play momma to the level 30s

we already nearly wiped twice earlier

[plucky flax]

Man even got the beta helm.

Tru gigachad.

[fading iris]

So not only you are hindering his learning adventure, you are doing it to fulfill your selfish desires

[fresh reef]

[harsh urchin]

Not really you get all the crit you need from blessings

[opaque tendon]

for general purpose stuff, any recs on wat do with this

idk if exorcist is worth but it a 4 so

[harsh urchin]

Exorcist to uncanny/unstable/deflector, stamina to flak/cara/elite

[opaque tendon]

dank, will do. thanks 👍

[fading iris]

new melee weapon for psyker: bare hands, using the warp energy to enhance your punches

again, Fat Shark, my pay rates aren't high, message me

[feral verge]

here is a video of purga vs crusher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqFUV24kOGk

(it takes 1 minute to kill)

[opaque tendon]

[fading iris]

1 min melt still a melt, you can call it "slow cooking build"

[bleak tulip]

simply switch to melee and stack uncanny

totally worth doing

over just

playing something else

[plucky flax]

@fluid knot I am browsing the leddit and I am attacked..
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17sxd4n/i_hate_shroudfield_loner_zealots_especially_if/

[glossy ember]

finally got a flaming shriek win

[maiden cedar]

Just got off the bus

Give me a bit and I'll show my build

[plucky flax]

How do you not win all the time with that op ult.

[maiden cedar]

The last tick flame explination could work, but I also just straight up solo crushers so I'm not entirely convinced

[bleak tulip]

what is this deranged kill feed

[glossy ember]

idk bro

[plucky flax]

Are you not using both cd reduction aura?

[glossy ember]

it was nice

[glossy ember]

i am

[orchid nest]

yeah #psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

Then just constantly spam shriek.

When 85% peril.

[feral verge]

watch the video

you w ill see me "solo" a crusher

with purga only

with a bunch of damage buffs up

[glossy ember]

this is what i ran

[bleak tulip]

okay? I mean I didnt come up with it

it was also a joke

[feral verge]

your team is doing most of the crusher damage, you get the last tics of damage in, and you think you're getting the kill

or

[orchid nest]

I was agreeing with you. I am confused lol

[bleak tulip]

oh oke

[feral verge]

you are smart and are swatting to melee with uncanny strike

[bleak tulip]

no worries bro

[feral verge]

like a deimos sword

doing good damage

then your soulblaze gets the last tic

[glossy ember]

it didn't feel like that was the full idea but yeah, learning what the hitbox looked like helped a lot

lmao

[whole hollow]

Is "Unlimited Power" psyker still a thing?

[maiden cedar]

Yeh nah its entirely random BB procs lmao

[feral verge]

thought so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKq6N5U4UI

[maiden cedar]

Vs the less armoured guys tho I melt them

About 2ish full charges of purge to kill the shield guys?

1 fully charged burst if BB procs

Reapers die so fast

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, shriek really changes when you understand what it looks like.

I wish there was a custom color mod so we could make it visible or something

[feral verge]

that's the problem with kinetic flayer

[steady yarrow]

Anyone have a decent brainburst build they can recommend to knock out these penances?

[feral verge]

if it procs

[lethal lagoon]

The /25 one only works with native BB right?

So the build is no build

[feral knoll]

This may be a silly question. But does killing in general speed up your ability cooldown? Or am I just gaslighting myself

[glossy ember]

could use an effect for sure

[feral knoll]

Because it looks like it does

[lethal lagoon]

There's a 5% elite kill thingy

[feral verge]

in general? no

there's this

[lethal lagoon]

There's no coherency other than the psyker one that reduces CD right?

[feral knoll]

My brain was convincing myself that getting normal kills was speeding up my cooldown for some reason like it was a universal thing

But I probably forgot I brought that lmao

I’m probably just being dumb but thank ya anyway

[maiden cedar]

A few people have said the 'randomness' is bad

But like

Purge has such decent stagger to it that you can reliably wait for BB to proc against Crushers

Everything else just burns to death

[fading iris]

surge lmb spam staggers too... with the bonus that if you don't look at your peril, you get a free warp grenade

[maiden cedar]

Surge doesn't have the impact for me

[fading iris]

at the end, if you are having fun and aren't bring your team down, go for it

[feral verge]

15 seconds is a very very long time

[maiden cedar]

Its really not lmao

[feral verge]

a very very very long time in this game

if you play hi5 auric like you say

then you know that the game can literally go from 0-100 in 5 seconds

1 second everhybody is gucci

[maiden cedar]

Oh it does, 100% I lose games quite often

[feral verge]

but the next there are 8 crushers, 2 bulwarks, 7 gunners, 5 pox bursters

[maiden cedar]

But at the same times its not because my random BB isn't targetting the crushers or whatever

[feral verge]

idk but you but i'd rather not be banking on random chance

[maiden cedar]

Plus I run full soulblaze with push

So there is literally zero time where it isn't on CD

[feral verge]

"oh i hope my BB procs on this crusher please please and not this groaner next to him. life or death i need this crusher dead--oh. it procced on the groaner. splat im dad"

[maiden cedar]

If a single crusher can solo you, you're probably just bad at the game lmao???

The new attack animations they gave them are so easy to dodge now

Sometimes the tracking is a little sus, but I just dance around them all day

[fading iris]

Hi dad!

[maiden cedar]

Also imagine not instantly swapping to melee, shoving once, and removing the groaner from the game

Like they're hardly stealthy

[feral verge]

that's not what im arguing

im arguing i t's jsut bad tactics to bank on a random chance damage effect to proc every 15 seconds on the correct target

[maiden cedar]

See but the build doesn't require the BB to target crushers

It's just nice to have

[feral verge]

sure it might be nice sometimes

but there are feats that you can take that are nice 100% of the time

that are nicer 5x more often than KF

i'd take 15% more toughness anyday over flayer

[maiden cedar]

Like when you're running around for mats and encounter a random crusher? With random BB it dies before ever even swinging

[feral verge]

what melee are you running

[maiden cedar]

The 2 top talents not enough toughness regeneration?

[feral verge]

because all the meta melees can delete a crusher quickly

even illisi

[maiden cedar]

One of the force swords, the one without the arrow on the end

[feral verge]

stop strawmanning

[feral verge]

deimos is godtier at deleting crushers lol

[maiden cedar]

It was a legit question

[feral verge]

you can see it my video i 2 tapped it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKq6N5U4UI

[maiden cedar]

I get by on those two perial talents and don't really take damage

I put toughness on my curios tho

[long wharf]

his question wasn't a strawman argument

[maiden cedar]

Iunno, with push and purge I find it super easy to keep melee enemies at range

And I spam dodge so ranges enemies, outside of gunners, never really hit either

[feral verge]

so do i

[maiden cedar]

It's positioning too

[feral verge]

i delete the trash around them, isolate the elites/specials

and delete them with deimos

or illisi

[maiden cedar]

Like it takes a second to just move to a spot where gunners aren't an issue

[fading iris]

this is taking too long, just kiss already and move on

[maiden cedar]

If I want to ruin the game for everyone else I go biolightning and empowered psyionics with surge

Even without the bug it still wipes everything

[fading iris]

which one? there was 2 bugs, one was fixed an created the current one

that poor keystone can't catch a break

[maiden cedar]

I'm not 100% sure, but I was constantly told my surge staff damage was applying to my biolightning

[fading iris]

that's the current one

I mean, both points are valid, your build is usable, but there is stuff that is better without even entering the meta list

[maiden cedar]

Biolightning is still viable without it. Massive chain range plus stun on all enemies, with empowered, and enough damage to wipe hordes

[fading iris]

that`s why you just shake hands, kiss in the lips and move on

[orchid shadow]

Don't forget the tongue.

[maiden cedar]

I need to redownload the stat mod

[fading iris]

oh and the friendly slap in the butt

[maiden cedar]

Curious what my damage is

On older patches with enemy counts of about 1900~ I was hitting 8 or 9k damage?

No idea if that's good lmao

[feral knoll]

Not gonna lie. Agripinaa on gun Psyker kinda slaps IMO

[fading iris]

"For Cadia!"

[feral knoll]

If only I got the braced one for Psyker. I would never stop playing this

[orchid nest]

the columnus is pretty gross on psyker atm. I mean it's good on vet and zealot too. but it synergizes with the tree a lot and assail. doing a quick burst can easily max stack all kinds of buffs for assail to do nutty damage and then of course its 5 crit strings with true aim is hilarious

[feral knoll]

I just like slower but harder hitting weapons tbh

[orchid nest]

they are still very good too yeah. columnus does have superior synergy with the talents but agri has good upsides on its own

[cedar wren]

Dumb question alert..
But I have to ask..
Warp battery ..allows you to hold 6 warp charges..
Where to you see how many charges your holding ?

[hearty oak]

In your buffs

[cedar wren]

And what exactly is a warp charge .. everytime you use the staff

[fading iris]

A question is only dumb if you don't ask it

or if is clearly stated somewhere and you decided not to read the whole damn thing

[long wharf]

there are no stupid questions, only stupid people

[fading iris]

when you proc because of the keystone, you get the buff that does the thing it says

the last part the small balls are always a modifier for the bigger one

when you get a charge, you have the icon of the warp siphon keystone on your buff bar

[cedar wren]

Ahhh ok ..gotcha thanks

I rarely get chance to look at the buff bar ..but getting better ..

[fading iris]

don't worry about it, in no time everything will make sense and you will fall victim to Buildus maniacus, tweak everything on the hunt for the ultimate build for your playstyle

[feral knoll]

I like how my playstyle. Usually regardless of build. Naturally turns to

Get automatic gun. Shoot it

[frosty pasture]

max wounds possible on a curio?

[fading iris]

One

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/curios

[frosty pasture]

Really? Damn

TY

[fading iris]

[feral knoll]

“Sir. You’re a Psyker! Your main niche thing is you don’t really need bullets!”

Me: “Nah. I’m gonna be a veteran in Psyker’s clothing.”

[frosty pasture]

Recon Las go BRRRR

[fading iris]

"I use the warp to balance the PTSD" -Gunsker

[feral knoll]

“I cast BULLET.”

[mossy canopy]

They think the PTSD flashbacks are just warp demons fucking with them

[orchid nest]

I had no interest in using a gun prior to this rework and even shortly after. then laspistol got buffed and I was like alright I guess I'll try it. then it was the gateway drug into the revolver and then the IAGs

[frosty pasture]

They aren't?

[royal ibex]

'psyker, mind telling me why you have a revolver?'
space wizard cowboy
'carry on'

[frosty pasture]

Revolver is my happy button

[feral knoll]

“I’m out of peril.”

pulls out IAG

“But I’m not out of options.”

[royal ibex]

call a madicae station. but not for me

[fading iris]

"Did you not see the things that the Warp hides?" "THE WARP HIDES STUFF?!" Inquisition bursts out the door

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-monty-python-spanish-inquisition-walk-in-gif-17117394

Need the emotional support revolver

[frosty pasture]

here's mine

[royal ibex]

if psyker doesnt need guns, why give them revolver

that just hurts to look at

[frosty pasture]

I need to fix the blessings I know

[royal ibex]

'heres a 380 with amazing stats, lets just brick it' Hadron, probably

[frosty pasture]

yep

Imma brick her

get an ogryn friend to do it

[fading iris]

She will probably like a holy toaster more...

[royal ibex]

this is mine atm

[fading iris]

wait.. oh no

[frosty pasture]

Thanks Big Man

[long zodiac]

which of these should I replace with what, mainly used for a gaze build

[frosty pasture]

thats hot

need a NSFW tag

[fading iris]

I prefer to run the revolver on my vet... I like to keep my psyker, that is my main, as space magic user

[royal ibex]

im gonna try make a better one because i have no control of my life and want something to do. i got a great purgation staff recently so thats what im using till then

[feral knoll]

“Alright Gun Psyker. Let’s take off that mask and see what you REALLY are!”

pulls it back

“Veteran!?”

[fading iris]

You don't need a better control of you life, what you need is more plasteel

[royal ibex]

its never enough

[frosty pasture]

Not if I grab it all

[royal ibex]

melk what the fuck is this

[frosty pasture]

Fml I always need more

[fading iris]

when you grab it, the whole team gets it.

[hearty oak]

Skullcrusher for rampage

[frosty pasture]

Separate strike team noise

[long zodiac]

thank

[hearty oak]

which, i should figure out which melee i want for a general use weapon

[fading iris]

I like that the toaster from the past was like " I bet that I will have a bunch of plasteel and the last upgrade will be the problem"... past Toaster was soooo wrong

[royal ibex]

general use? illisi blaze swords decent enough for hordes i spose

[shadow wigeon]

This is niche but any Purg users found this to be more useful than Psychic Whampire?

[fading iris]

I use that

[lucid terrace]

Whampire?

[mossy canopy]

It's better for purg

[fading iris]

the way I play, that triggers so much more than the other option

and I play assail+Surge

[bright mica]

for puratus that is the one you wanna take yeah

when i run creeping flames i prefer the other one though

[strong gulch]

The dueling swords are good and armor and decent agaist bosses. If you can manage a horde with one, then that might be what you're looking for. Mk 4 heavies are the strongest of the three dueling sword options and easily chain together.

Illisi is actual horde clear but struggles against carapace.

Deimos is more in line with the MK 4 dueling sword, but it's more fiddly to use. Most of its damage is on the heavy 2.

[bright mica]

most general use you can get is mk4 dsword like others have said

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it'l be awful off creeping flames.

I found it a mixed bag on Purg. Much faster in the middle of a fight, which is probably the point, but you lose a few charges in between fights when allies are taking out at ranged.

[bright mica]

its bread and butter

[feral knoll]

What perks do you want for Purg staff?

[shadow wigeon]

Unyielding is always great for bosses.
Some people like +crit for faster burn stacks, which is much more valid now with the crit talents.

[fading iris]

and I legit think that in fire reborn has some bug, because I proc into 6 charges too fast

[mossy canopy]

This is what I run

[bright mica]

yeah what MMMiles siad

carapace...

[strong gulch]

Perks flak + crit chance / maniac. Unyeilding can also work.

Blessings warp flurry + warp nexus

[mossy canopy]

In my defense the other was a level 1 stam IIRC

[fading iris]

you don't need Barrage on Purgatus, it already has it

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, if it does it's not consistent. I was watching it quite a lot, and it didn't feel out of control. I think the 10% + elite kills just adds up pretty quickly.

[feral knoll]

Is flak kind of just. A universal good perk for most weapons?

[shadow wigeon]

Not necessarily. It's a very common armor type, but it does depend on the weapon's damage table, and what you want to do.

[bright mica]

haha fair

[bright mica]

flak/maniac is what people run on most weapons yeah, but with purgatus its better to run something else

[strong gulch]

Also where the M2 on purg, surge, and trauma hit an enemy is usually flak.

[shadow wigeon]

it doesn't matter now but in future, +stam is more useful than +cara on purg.

[mossy canopy]

Then what do you use as second blessing?

[strong gulch]

Gotta make sure crusher is warm. 😊

[fading iris]

when I go mode I run warp nexus and warp flurry

[strong gulch]

nexus + flurry

[shadow wigeon]

They're farting in this those all day long, and the fire resistance confirms they're sealed shut in there.

[strong gulch]

factual

[fading iris]

nexus + flurry is a stupidly good combo

borderline heretical

[shadow wigeon]

Pre-patch Focused Channeling was also an option, but now that crits and warp flurry have both been buffed, and hordes have been nerfed.... its just old news now....

[long wharf]

nexus+flurry is meta for purge staff

[rotund dagger]

What am I looking for on a dueling staff?

fuck

[long wharf]

what dueling staff?

[mossy canopy]

I thought the actual staff damage was low enough that the crits weren't worth hunting?

[rotund dagger]

dueling sword

[long wharf]

I was about to be very interested

[robust sierra]

is this from melk worth it?

idk what's good on the duelling sword

[rotund dagger]

im sorry I'm usually gandalfmaxxing on psyker

[long wharf]

purge staff crits apply two stacks of soulblaze instead of one

so you want to be critting as often as possible for purge to apply maximum soulblaze everywhere

[mossy canopy]

oh. It would be nice if it said this anywhere, fatshark...

[long wharf]

welcome to every Fatshark game.

[shadow wigeon]

Crits applying extra souldblaze is helpful in some case, but also the the crit talents are a toughness and damage boost.

[long wharf]

they're Swedish, and they have very odd ideas about game dev

[fading iris]

I mean... you can have a dueling staff, just use the special action of the staffs

[strong gulch]

Actually yeah. Switch infected to maniac and add uncanny strike.

I'd personally replace precog.

[long wharf]

like thishttps://streamable.com/mqhrbj

[rotund dagger]

Anyway yeah, what's good on dueling sword

I hunger for knowledge (and plasteel)

[robust sierra]

I could get another one without it, does precog work? like I said, idk what blessings/perks to use and what mk of the dueling sword is the best

[long wharf]

riposte works if you do a lot of dodging/dancing with the dueling sword

[robust sierra]

I've not used them yet

not sure what they're good for

other than elite

[long wharf]

stabbing things in the face

[terse saffron]

the timer is too strict to be of much use. riposte/shred + uncanny works best currently

[rotund dagger]

I love dodging

[long wharf]

repeatedly

and with much gusto

[rotund dagger]

sometimes I intentionally dodge off timing just to feel something

[robust sierra]

I see

[strong gulch]

Precog is fine. The active window is short. The way it impact damage is ehhh. Riposte has a longer window that you can use on some (idk about all) ranged.

[robust sierra]

hmm

I just don't know if that specific sword is worth buying or not

cause I have no blessings earned for the duelling sword

I have 8k melk coins currently

[terse saffron]

only if you want to snort the t3 shred off of it tbh

[rotund dagger]

the melkbux struggle is real

[long wharf]

8k Milkies isn't a lot

I wouldn't buy any weapon for the blessings if they're not T4

[terse saffron]

or add precog to the blessing atlas

[rotund dagger]

That's like 4 weapons (t4 blessings)

[long wharf]

he highest he sells weapons for is 3200, I think

[near wyvern]

Siblings. I have outdone myself. 500 IQ play here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOmLUfNMw4

[terse saffron]

the sword itself isnt really great and im pretty sure you cant ohko crit ragers with anything but mk4

[long wharf]

where's the peril gain?

[sturdy sluice]

I'm convinced

[near wyvern]

inner tranq + becalming eruption

[royal ibex]

woe, shock and ball torture upon ye

[strong gulch]

It's the MK 2. It will manage hordes easier. It is more fiddly than the MK 4 on heavy attacks. Mk 4 is also stronger.

It's not a bad sword tho. See if you can by a white and give it a try. Otherwise if you want meta or are low on melk money skip.

If you want to try or build an MK 2, grab it because it's decently rolled. Just have to clean it up.

[long wharf]

what's becalming eruption?

[near wyvern]

mandatory on your way to creeping flames

[plucky flax]

Me with 195k melk coins.

[long wharf]

those two things don't equate to 0 peril gain, though

[near wyvern]

no, I also have battle meditation

so peril goes backwards at times

[royal ibex]

lmao

[sturdy sluice]

infinite soulblaze lightning time

[near wyvern]

if someone throws a nade it will fuck up the combo tho

[long wharf]

I'm not yet convinced that Battle Meditation is worthwhile

[robust sierra]

yeah I've got 8k so I could afford it. I have this in my inventory, so I can earn uncanny strike. Only issue is idk if I would earn precog 4, use it as it is, or add uncanny onto it replacing one of the two blessings

[royal ibex]

the psyker said its psyking time and proceeded to smite the 15 ragers

[near wyvern]

for smite + soulblaze build it really is

[long wharf]

10% sounds like a lot, but I haven't witnessed it be overly useful

[robust sierra]

I just picked a random one in my inventory and said "fuck it" and consecrated it

uh

lol

[near wyvern]

I use battle meditation for void & for my smite soulblaze build

[long wharf]

strip ripose 4 off it at Hadron

[near wyvern]

cause void just generates so little you can go bowling on a horde

[long wharf]

and start crafting mk4 dueling swords

[robust sierra]

is the mk v shit?

[long wharf]

not per se, just mk4 is superior

mk4 heavy attacks do more damage than the other versions

[robust sierra]

right

so you sure I should earn rather than take to to gold and see if I get lucky

[long wharf]

I can one-stab muties in the face with my mk4 on damnation

[robust sierra]

the stats are good

[long wharf]

irrelevant, it's not a mk4

[robust sierra]

this is my only mk 4 rn

[long wharf]

sell it

[robust sierra]

and I have this mk 2

[long wharf]

buy mk4s from Brunt when you have dockets

[robust sierra]

ok

I honestly thought precog was good

so remind me again the good blessings?

[strong gulch]

Uncanny 3 is good to have in the blessing bank regardless. The heavies are all different between the 2, 4, and 5.

If the one is the melk shop was and MK 4, I would for sure say grab it. But the 2 and 5 are more how they feel to you.

[terse saffron]

it is good

but the good does not last very long

[pine relic]

I tried gun psyker, I feel like I played like shit but still got the most kills

[robust sierra]

upgraded another high stat one and got lucky again lol

lucky as in a tier 4

not a good blessing

rampage isnt good on these is it?

[royal ibex]

lmao

[plucky flax]

It's good for horde clear.

[robust sierra]

take it to gold or just scrap then?

[strong gulch]

rampage is actually not bad. especially after the cleave buff.

[royal ibex]

may as well use it to try for better blessings for other swords, assuming you havent got them all yet

[terse saffron]

scrap. its already 2 misses out of 4 rolls

[robust sierra]

no I've literally just started earning some spare blessings on these duelling swords

so I'm confused on what I'm actually trying for

mk 4 with what blessings and perks?

[royal ibex]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[terse saffron]

#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

I use uncanny rampage on my mk4.

[robust sierra]

gotcha

[royal ibex]

should help

[bright mica]

i like uncanny shred, crits always good especially when they make you invincible to gunners

[royal ibex]

i got shred/riposte on mine atm, crits for days lmao

[robust sierra]

do you guys think I should take either this or that high stat mk 2 to gold to see if I get a good tier 4 blessing though?

[royal ibex]

'im working on getting a better one, this is just what i have atm'

[terse saffron]

uncanny is too broken to ignore

[robust sierra]

this is the mk 2

[robust sierra]

oh and this one

so 3 in total high stats that I could take to gold maybe

[royal ibex]

id say buy a bunch from brunt, and anything 360+ work on

[robust sierra]

hold on just found out I have this one too

lol

[royal ibex]

try for a mk4

[robust sierra]

I have so many high stat duelling swords but NO mk 4s lol

[royal ibex]

just has better heavys for what you wanna do with the thing 'mainly single target damage'

[strong gulch]

Keep in mind about how you favor playing. Some of the blessings can be more conditional than others. Ramage is great as long as you have 3 enemies that you can cleave through. So armor mixed in will mess us what you can cleave though.

However, if you have rampage and uncanny stacks up, you will chew through armor.

[robust sierra]

is the mk v even any good for hordeclear?

I've never even tried it

[royal ibex]

hell if i know, if i wanted a hordeclear sword id use illisi blaze sword

[robust sierra]

I use that too lol

[terse saffron]

might as well use assail or whatever staff you have

[royal ibex]

been using deimos recently though, really like its moveset

[terse saffron]

or illisi

[bright mica]

deimos is so pog

[royal ibex]

being able to 1 shot a mutant midcharge is great

[bright mica]

with gaze and rampage the damage boost is enough to delete hordes with it even though the moveset isnt ideal

i dont even think u need rampage

[royal ibex]

i only have defector/unstable on mine atm

[bright mica]

ngl i havent used deflector in so long

[royal ibex]

its a niche thing, but its nice to have

[bright mica]

shred is better deflector if you have the dodge for 1s on crit talent :P

[strong gulch]

Apparently due to rending changes, T3 and T4 uncanny are the same right now at max stacks.

Uncanny strikes is your anchor blessing on duelies

[bright mica]

ofc

love my uncanny

[royal ibex]

hadron keeps bricking my swords while also giving me great guns

looka t this fucking thing

my vet would of loved this

[bright mica]

eh

recon rlly fell off

hard

its damage is so ass rn

laspistol has better DPS its insane

[wet jacinth]

Imean. Crit gunsyker exists

[royal ibex]

look sometimes you wanna use revolvers/laspistols, other times you wanna make a really painful rave

[wet jacinth]

But yeah laspistol would be better for it

[bright mica]

I'd use it on gaze, but then realize columnus is better and more fun 😭

[robust sierra]

so I will try for a good stat mk 4, but would you personally reccomend I take any of those high stat mk IIs or Vs up to gold to see if I can get a good roll? If not, is precog 4 worth earning on that MK II from melk that I sent earlier?

sorry I'm asking so much

[wet jacinth]

More dakka

[robust sierra]

just never used it

[royal ibex]

i mean lets face it, gaze is a meme

[wet jacinth]

[bright mica]

nah

[royal ibex]

'i say as im really bad with it lmao'

[bright mica]

gaze goes hard i just have a hard time letting go of creeping flames

im a creep

[royal ibex]

god aint that a mood

[bright mica]

ing flames weirdo

i dont belong here

[wet jacinth]

Gaze is great if you use it right.

[bright mica]

i love me gaze .

[royal ibex]

im using that atm with my purgation with t4 warp flurry/nexus

[bright mica]

i'd prob go shields with purg, going creeping flames too is a bit overkill imho

[royal ibex]

burninating a horde is great

[bright mica]

i hate shields though

get that shit off me!

i move too fast to use shields 😭

[royal ibex]

get this beta shit dome off me

[wet jacinth]

[royal ibex]

'unless im running my current gun build, then its a 'lmao try hit me gunner'

[bright mica]

fuck shields (stacks 3 toughness curios and becomes bullet proof instead)

actually what i did and it works

3x gunner resist ofc

[hearty oak]

Sorry for the late response: I been using the dueling swords and while it's fun for single target damage, I'm looking for something more with horizontal swings and something that can cleave. Was thinking more of the chainsword

[royal ibex]

im a 'run 1 wounds/toughness/health curio because 2 wounds is spooky' wierdo

[bright mica]

it depends for me

[wet jacinth]

Coming back not knowing these trees. A friend and I playing psyker were wondering why our Zealot had so many wounds

[bright mica]

if im playing a character that should not die under any circumstance (e.g. would die last if the team collapsed) i dont see the point of running wound curio

if its risky i run 1

[wet jacinth]

I run 1 yeah. Pubs be rough

[royal ibex]

thats fair. ive had too many games where thate xtra wounds helped save me to take it off though

[bright mica]

pubs are rarely coordinated and you'll get fucking zealots backlining for me when im running trauma

[near wyvern]

Take that back. Now.
https://youtu.be/fk7aL3DA9Dk

[bright mica]

but also pubs are rarely coordinated so they'll die before me

XD

so... no need for +1 wound eitherway ig

[hearty oak]

just don't go down. Tell the horde of crushers they can't down you and they legally cant

[wet jacinth]

1 wound / 3+ stamina / whatever I can get my hands on for a good 3rd curio ATM.

[royal ibex]

aight i take it back thats hilarious

[potent echo]

ive been playing alot more voidstrike recently

i dont like surge nexus anymore, flurry transfer is my new best friend

[bright mica]

i like running 3 stamina mainly when i drop kinetic deflection on a build but otherwise i can live without

[strong gulch]

I personally would not buy the melk mk 2 for the T4 precog. It's an ok blessing. You'll get it eventually anyways because it will show up when you want something else. Since you have 8k melks, I don't see the harm in grabbing just to toy around with.

The MK 2 is easier to manage hordes because it have different light heavy attack patterns are diffeernt. Still significant single target on the H1.

[potent echo]

also unarmored is probably essential on void

being able to one shot dreg gunners is too important

[wet jacinth]

Me as a kinetic deflection psyker tanking daemonhost

[bright mica]

flurry transfer void goes hard

[wet jacinth]

My team: not helping kill it

[strong gulch]

Illisi has horizontal sweeps. I don't know much about chainsword tho.

[potent echo]

getting the jump on a dreg gunner patrol and you one shot 4 of them, rest die to PC, too good

[bright mica]

obviously they have to kill the 5 pox walkers 200 meters away

[royal ibex]

the eternal pug experience

[royal ibex]

's alright. i run it with my vet every so often, has decent horizontal cleaves with heavys

[wet jacinth]

I got it killed eventually but my corrupted wounds

[royal ibex]

that 90% corruption is just a trophy at that point.

[near wyvern]

Try flurry nexus with battle meditation. You don't have to quell against hordes but warp nexus gives you more damage against beefy targets and keeps that perfect timing stacking nicely especially with the faster casts of flurry even when you don't find heads.

Bonus points for inner trans battery

[frank moat]

If your Zealot has loads of wounds it means they aren’t confident and need support, make sure to drop a medkit on them any time they get low on health

[hearty oak]

The swing on it just feels like I'm hitting with a wet noodle. It's dealing damage, I can feel it but it just feels weak

[wet jacinth]

I know. It was just funny to see before we knew what was in the zealot tree

[potent echo]

yea flurry is alot more consistent, nexus surge needs to get lucky

[royal ibex]

thats fair, then you use the warp infused hit and watch the particle effects go nuts

[robust sierra]

Good to know, thanks. Yeah I think I'll just grab it just to have it. As for those other 4 blue ones I sent, last thing I'll ask is if you think I should take any of them to gold?

[strong gulch]

Valid. If you're used to chainsword and it feels good, do that.

[royal ibex]

they'l thank you, even if they stopa nd stare at you, they're just trying to findt he right words

[frank moat]

Of course of course, just praise the emperor and all that and they’ll be sated

[potent echo]

lol i always like to tease them in elevators, take out a medkit and nod vigourously at them

[hearty oak]

I would also say if the swords actually had savage sweep or rampage, I might have gotten used to it

[robust sierra]

just sending them again so you dont have to scroll

[royal ibex]

if you see any loner auras on zealots be sure to stick with them, they're lonely and need the emotional support

[hearty oak]

What do you mean? They just run away from me and into the crowd of dregs

[potent echo]

both 4s can be brought to gold

[wet jacinth]

Me having seen a zealot run into the open and get shredded by gunners

[royal ibex]

be sure to shout positive reinforcement to them over voice

[robust sierra]

there's only one mk4

[potent echo]

im dummy

[wet jacinth]

Me: that loners aura did a lot of work there.

[potent echo]

so that 4 then

[robust sierra]

it's ok

thanks

[potent echo]

you can extract rampage too

why not

[hearty oak]

typical knife zealot gameplay

[potent echo]

one day we might get a horde clear duelly

[wet jacinth]

Me waiting for a God roll Antax Axe.

[potent echo]

antax with gaze goes ham

[hearty oak]

Just give the horde a duelling sword and have them stand in a line

[potent echo]

i wish gaze gave attack speed though

[royal ibex]

mk 4 swords the closest im gonna get to rapier from VT2 so im taking it

[potent echo]

its way stronger than VT2 rapier

[robust sierra]

ok

thanks for the help everyone

[royal ibex]

yeah but the lights were better for wave clear, mind you thats probably due to the whole 'WHC killing on headshots for anythign mansized'

[wet jacinth]

Me seeing people not special action after heavy stabs hurts

[frank chasm]

@steel flame this build fucking slaps holy shit

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ZXxZ5YXwM

[royal ibex]

Woe, stunlock upon ye

[ornate hamlet]

gogogaga very cool

[potent echo]

yea its probably that, also F gave crits so you kill everything when thats up, also flense was decent

[shell igloo]

Hadron WHY

[royal ibex]

[wet jacinth]

Transfer your peril varlet

[royal ibex]

hadron try not to brick amazing weapons challange (Impossible)

[wet jacinth]

[strong gulch]

Potentially these ones.

The Mk 5 pen is a touch low, has a crap perk, and mobility and defenses have overlap.

You just bought and Mk 2 and the blessing is meh.

Mk 4 damage is low and the blessing is meh, BUT you don't have one yet.

You can always level them to farm for blessings. All of these are good enough swords, I'm just being picky. 👍

[royal ibex]

name a more iconic duo ill wait
'Brunt selling you 10 300-320 weapons in a row'
'Hadron bricking the 380 you just got after spending 380k dockets'

[robust sierra]

just upgraded the mk 4 and I think I got so fucking lucky lmao

mind it's my ONLY mk 4 that I've ever had 💀

what should I do to it?

[strong gulch]

WOOO nice. Swap pregcog out to shred/ rampage / riposte. Swap block to maniac

[robust sierra]

hmm

[steady yarrow]

I know Quell is typically the dumpstat, what about warp resistance for Surge staffs though?

[robust sierra]

rampage is for hordes, riposte is for crits on dodge

what's shred for?

currently I have riposte 4, rampage 3 (can have 4 if I earn from the mk v)

[royal ibex]

crit on hit

[robust sierra]

I don't have shred

[steady yarrow]

Just made this

[royal ibex]

chained hit i mean

[robust sierra]

right

[royal ibex]

not bad

[robust sierra]

what would you guys reccomend? I'm the last person to be making that decision lol

between those 3 options

[steady yarrow]

Using this currently

probably better, huh?

[royal ibex]

change the block to maniac, then you can save that last swap till you get shred on another sword

[robust sierra]

ok so shred it is

you sure not riposte 4?

cause I have that

regardless I can switch it between both so it doesnt matter

itll just cost plasteel

[royal ibex]

i mean you can put it on till youg et it

[robust sierra]

yeah

[royal ibex]

probably.

[robust sierra]

glad I didnt buy that melk mk 2 yet lol

[royal ibex]

they fix disrupt destiny not marking enemies sometimes?

[strong gulch]

Shred is easy to maintain stacks. It only requires that you hit things, but does take longer to get to max crit chance.

Riposte gets you to the same crit chance faster but requires you to dodge. Last 6 seconds and can affect ranged.

Rampage requires that you cleave through 3 targets, but can really ramp up the damage. Falls off if you can't cleave (because of armored targets or single targets).

[robust sierra]

I see

last thing I'll bother you with is asking what's your preference?

shred I assume?

[west stream]

With Dueling riposte feels natural

[robust sierra]

I would take that if I use rampage it would be better for hordeclear, and the rest for single target

right?

[royal ibex]

legit just use whatever and see what works, shred might be the pick for most but you can be wierd and use riposte if you're very dodge heavy

[west stream]

you should be dodging during horde tbh.

But shred feels like a better all-rounder

[ornate hamlet]

I like shred

It depends on me and I don't need aggro

[robust sierra]

gotcha

[royal ibex]

i have both shred and riposte on mine atm, and its kind of hilarious how much crit you get.

[robust sierra]

lmao

[royal ibex]

juust seeing the mettle stacks come up

[robust sierra]

well cheers for the help guys

I really appreciate it

[strong gulch]

Shred is the more straight forward answer. It's less conditional.

I tend to favor riposte because it can affect you ranged option.

And you dodge a lot with dueling sowrds

[robust sierra]

right

thanks again

[strong gulch]

If you feel like reading. Dueling sword info is under "22. Regular Swords and Dagger".
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

Rec there might be different than what people may recomend here.

[keen slate]

Playing psyker gives bad muscle memory if you deside to play as Sienna in VT2

[royal ibex]

unchained my beloved

[keen slate]

I tried to quell and nearly killed myself

[strong gulch]

Lol, buying with melk money to save plasteels in my quest for surge blessing.

[digital narwhal]

One of the best changes from VT2 to DT was making it so Psyker's Quelling didn't consume HP

But it is a death sentence for people going from DT to VT2

[strong gulch]

It's me. I played VT2 before DT. You'd think I'd remember. NOPE

[keen slate]

I was quelling only with ult when DT came out

[digital narwhal]

kek

[keen slate]

Tbf they should've just remove that self harm from VT2 with necromancer release

[digital narwhal]

Would've been a good change, yeah

But, it'd take away a lot of value from Necro's insta 70% quell thing

[sick veldt]

with the surge staff should I be full charging it each time or just spamming without fully charging? not sure if the playstyle has changed since the class overhaul changes

[keen slate]

Psyker's shout still exists

[digital narwhal]

Wait I forgor something.

Is manual quell in VT2 as slow as it was during early DT?

[keen slate]

well, it is slow af

[digital narwhal]

Fully charge.
Only partial charge if you believe something to be quite close to death, or if it's trash enemies like shooters and bruisers.

[sick veldt]

copy that, thanks

[still hearth]

With 3 stacks of Warp Flurry you'll charge like 70% anyway before you can fire

[digital narwhal]

^

[still hearth]

Might as well charge the last 0.2s

[digital narwhal]

I was just about to say that you don't really lose anything from full charge anyway

Sometimes an instant M2 after you crit something can be nice for finishing it off-

but it's very case by case.

[strong gulch]

Yup, fully charge surge. Damage is based on charge time.

If you fiddle in the meatgrinder, you can see on most enemies how long you have to charge for. 1 and and half charges kills a lot of high value targets

[lucid pewter]

Should I go for max damage surge staff bug or max duration mega stun smite Psyker for auric missions?

[spice oar]

our psykers are not sanctioned are they?

[orchid shadow]

You can do both if you want. EP Smite on big hordes can trigger Battle Meditation enough extend the duration.

Then you can single out an Elite if any to Surge for an EP charge and do it again.

[crystal oxide]

Hmm, tried out the Agri mk1 for my gun psyker, seems to suite her better

[steel flame]

Doesn't it though?

[frank chasm]

so much fun - I suck with it but its fun

[steel flame]

Ikr

It's a tough build to get good with

Took me a bit too

The pace is a lot faster

[frank chasm]

when you build the crit with the scriers and use the duelling sword

I have never melted everything so hard

[steel flame]

Everything just dies

[crystal oxide]

With a good automatic you can do upwards of 40k damage to a monstrosity with Scier too

[frank chasm]

A verteran mate of mine heard about the build and immediately was so negative on it until I showed him

[crystal oxide]

You keep up with a Vet spamming Kraks lmao

[frank chasm]

recon?

[crystal oxide]

I recommend one of the IAG's

[frank chasm]

whats a good recon blessing roil?

[crystal oxide]

You need the stoppign power

[copper jay]

when you see how much they did buff it its not surprising, they did too much, fuck these beta tester

[frank chasm]

ah fair

[crystal oxide]

IAG's tend to be a bit more ammo efficient too, since they have better modifiers against the really tanky stuff

Like flak and maniac

[silver portal]

GUYS

[frank chasm]

true - I feel like a Vet is necessary both ways to get ammo in elite kill

[silver portal]

I'm trying to start a movement

Psykers with shotguns

who

who's with me

[frank chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[silver portal]

:L

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

You know you want them too

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-boy-chris-farley-acceptance-feelings-dont-run-gif-3465096

[teal needle]

Didn't psykers have shotties in early access or am i misremembering

[silver portal]

owo

the prophecy was fortold

[steel flame]

Once you learn to trust the laspistol crits to keep you safe from ranged stuff, you can get away with so much stupid shit

One of the reasons I don't use recon

[silver portal]

plz elaborate the build goodsir im curious

[steel flame]

And then laspistol with crit chance and unyielding

[silver portal]

disrupt destiny so hard to get with teamates yoinking kills tho

[steel flame]

You can get laspistol up to 45% crit chance base, and 65 with scrier, meaning that as long as you are shooting literally anything, you are immune to ranged damage

[quick tulip]

It's dummy strong as long as you have ammo

[steel flame]

You also have 5% more movement speed from passive node, 15% from crits with mettel, another 20% you get from killing dd targets and ANOTHER 20% from scrier

[frank chasm]

yeah once you run out of ammo

[quick tulip]

Good teammates will notice this

[frank chasm]

ouch

[steel flame]

They usually pick it up pretty fast

[frank chasm]

just got gang banged by some ragers

ouchhh

[steel flame]

You can stagger them with assail or laspistol push

Then finish them with las or dueling sword

Special on Dueling sword also stuns them

[west stream]

laspistol ftw

[silver portal]

intersting build

i been running gria autogun/recon lazgun because i like pew pew lol

do u mainly only shoot elites with that zazy?

[steel flame]

It's go fast as fuck, be immune to ranged damage, melt everything in your path, think zealot but the knives are magic now

[frank chasm]

just did 25kj damage to a burgle in 5 hits

wow

[ornate hamlet]

do you guys like my psyker now

[silver portal]

with what sealoo?

[frank chasm]

duelling sword with full rampage and shred stacks

[silver portal]

noice

[frank chasm]

plus scriersz 30 and critss

[ornate hamlet]

AHEM. 😠

[silver portal]

cola

COLAA

[steel flame]

I tend to go for dd targets and scab shooters along with specials and elites since the flack modifier is super high on laspistol and then usually save ammo by killing dregs and walkers with assail or dueling saber

[quick tulip]

I usually run a slaughterer+unstable illissi so I can hotswap between pistol and sword at scriers gaze maxstack

It's a get out of jail free card lol

[steel flame]

I also melt through reapers and bulwarks with headshots and save the crushers for saber

[slow raven]

no uncanny?

[steel flame]

I kill maulers with laspistol rather than saber since it's faster,

[slow raven]

uncanny has nice synergy with assail, swap to assail to get uncanny stacks and also benefit from uncanny

and it also boosts your soulblaze damage if using perilous combustion

[steel flame]

Assail also stacks dumdum

[slow raven]

although iirc slaughterer will benefit soulblaze damage as well

[silver portal]

My heretic deleting gun

[royal ibex]

'why are you using guns on psyker'
because i wanna turn every game into destiny, fuck it

[hollow jolt]

Vermintide 2 is just a Destiny clone after all

[cobalt granite]

I hope they nerf bio-lightning into oblivion.

Such a fucking boring gameplay

[hollow jolt]

I hope they give the enemies bio-lightning

"oops all stunlocked"

[cobalt granite]

They should give some kind of psykers to enemies

Daemon is too much

Need something simpler

[hollow jolt]

Nurgle himself

Uwu

personally just something like Vermintide's sorcerer boss would be cool

[hollow jolt]

sniper but instead of laser it just hitscans you with Doombolt UwU

[crystal oxide]

.. That is. Huh

A very good way to put it lmao

No wonder I vibed so well with it

[hollow jolt]

I wouldn't be against revolver feeling like Destiny's Handcannons

Handcannons feel so good to use

[royal ibex]

revolver gives me the happy brain chemical

give me one like it in destiny 2 'that isnt erriana's vow'

[cobalt granite]

Go and play destiny

Problem solved.

Will make not only you but the community here happier as well, probably

[ornate hamlet]

do i change anything on this

[royal ibex]

lmao with how bungo's been lately, im having more fun here

[hollow jolt]

the real big brain move is to convert every game into Destiny

I've already commissioned Minecraft to turn into Destiny 2

[cobalt granite]

Big company problems

Or rather old fucking game problems

[royal ibex]

'we kept the right people on the team.'
'fired Michael Salvatori'

[frank chasm]

damage to manaics instead of flak

[ornate hamlet]

r u sure

[frank chasm]

it covers more enemies

[cobalt granite]

Devs try doing new stuff, its always a bunch of garbage and game dies out. Players hate change.

[ornate hamlet]

no

flak is more common

[frank chasm]

yeah on trash

but maniacs is the shit you need more damage on

[cobalt granite]

Maniacs are like mutants and ragers, that's all i think.

[crystal oxide]

Running spam Void or the full charge? Spam Void, yeah that every bit of maniac does add up

[hollow jolt]

"sorry players, but the paid content train must continue"

[royal ibex]

wasnt maniac anythign that disables?

[frank chasm]

and trappers and maulers I think?

[hollow jolt]

dogs are Infested

[royal ibex]

ah

[hollow jolt]

Maulers are Carapace and Flak

[opaque tendon]

can smite crit?

[hollow jolt]

but like literally every disabler except dogs are maniac

fuck trappers btw

[royal ibex]

look, we need to raise the price of everything in the eververse, we didnt make enough money from TFS preorders'

[hollow jolt]

"here's an Engram to soothe the soul c:"

[steel flame]

Burster and doggo are infested, scab ragers are flack, all the other specials are maniac along with dreg rager

[cobalt granite]

Only unarmoured ragers, mutants, both flamers and trapper.

[royal ibex]

its sad since the gameplay loops still solid im just.....concerned for the future past TFS

[hollow jolt]

once the Handcannon high left, I honestly stopped lol

[cobalt granite]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?

Use this

[hollow jolt]

but sibling, I can't read

[steel flame]

I got bored with d2 after 2 hours, returned it and never looked back

[cobalt granite]

Too bad, simpleton

[hollow jolt]

D:

rude sibling >:(

[royal ibex]

4366 hours since it was on steam 'please help me i have a problem'

[steel flame]

Oof

[cobalt granite]

You might be an ogryn trying to go as a psyker

[royal ibex]

7.6k hours on FF14 so /shrug

[cobalt granite]

FF14 has that amount in it. This game doesnt

[steel flame]

The intro was fun, but the second it opened up it lost all focus and direction and it just killed it for me

[royal ibex]

i miss red war man.

but yeah its like that, early game/new player experience is fucking rough. friend of mine keeps saying they wanan try it and i keep going 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh you really dont'

anyways back to the topic at hand. any other guns you can use on psyker that arent revolver/laspistol?

[cobalt granite]

Surge stuff

Cos it is bugged with 125% damage buff

Currently, at least

[royal ibex]

ill pass on the mike pence experience

rather not use somethign thats bound to get fixed

[cobalt granite]

It will still be good

[steel flame]

Pygex has high praise for Columnus auto gun

I'm still Rollin for mine

[cobalt granite]

Otherwise all weapons are currently good on psyker, beacuse the base class tree is overpowered

You can maky anything work

[royal ibex]

whats the go to on that anyway

[royal ibex]

fair point

[steel flame]

I think dumdum and fire frenzy if I remeber

Dunno, never used auto guns before

I'll have to ask him again

[cobalt granite]

I just don't see anypoint in using basic guns except for revolver if u wanna be a sniper

Void staff would outkill any other weapon

[restive kettle]

Only up to 22 on psyker but void has been kinda meh so far for me

Not sure what I need to make it better

[cobalt granite]

You are cooking it wrong

There are plenty of guides, not gonna get into it

What we really need is a new class so that all psyker players go try it and we can stop having 2-3 psykers in matches with infinite stun and boring gameplay.

[steel flame]

Yes it's dumdum and fire friendly, just checked back on my conversation with pygex

Not a long range gun to be sure

But if it is approaching you, it's death is assured

Dont have a build ready for the columnus yet though, will probably be radically different from laspistol since it's not as crit reliant

Maybe shields or vent

[brazen warren]

many do not use smite for its other utility stagger options, when just straight killing the room with your staff/melee/gun is safer

stun ragers, kill poxbursters at range with a quick pulse, short channel release to knock down a chunk of horde to clear space efficiently

[atomic zephyr]

whats your laspistol build?

[steel flame]

That is my build laspistol

Don't have current screenshot of laspistol

I use unyielding and crit chance along with dumdum and infernus

[lucid pewter]

should I go for dome shield or venting shriek on my max peril resistance smite mega-stun build?

[brazen warren]

are you going for uptime or for kill power

[steel flame]

Fire Vent,

[lucid pewter]

mostly stuns, so uptime i guess

[steel flame]

Creeping flames vent, forgot what it was called for a second

[ornate hamlet]

how long did it take u to get this achievement

[steel flame]

You could use maniac or flack but it already kills specials really fast, it's flack modifier is already really high and unyielding lets you melt bosses even harder

[crystal oxide]

Yeaaah, gun psykers melt bosses now

I didn't even have to aim for weakpoints for the most part, though it does helpa lot

[whole oxide]

not necessarily true, when you account for charge-time

[steel flame]

Finally good boss damage on psyker

[brazen warren]

warp siphon 6 stack with peril resist node and vent then probably for max uptime

[hollow jolt]

530 hours

[brazen warren]

columnus iag with raking fire, SG, and WS does melt bosses

[steel flame]

Typically that honor goes to fire trauma and purgatus staff

[brazen warren]

voidstaff is the most flexable of the staves we have around right now

[steel flame]

It's aight

I want fire void back

The damage buff made fire spread really bad

It could compete with fire trauma pre patch 13

Now it usually kills instead of lighting stuff up

[crystal oxide]

I was using a Agri mk1 and it was still doing so much work

Can even one tap headshot shooters at any range

[steel flame]

Also they made quell canceling jank with the fire rate "fix"

[brazen warren]

I dont have the numbers at hand, but for single target mag dump dps, columnus is probably the best just from the fire rate

[crystal oxide]

Yeah, the columnus does have it beat in DPS

Just really dislike its lack of sniping or long range percision capability

[whole oxide]

thats where gunpsyker has some advantage over Vet, you can cover that gap with BB/Assail

which is what people saying "hurrdurr if gun y not vet" never consider

[royal ibex]

when i go gun psyker its assail since im using the revolver for distant/big targets, and the assail covers hordes

[crystal oxide]

I tend to switch between assail and gun equally for all ranges

So I'm quite happy the mk1 is working for me so far

[royal ibex]

its nice having the option

[steel flame]

I dive into melee alot with saber when I play with laspistol

And can swap to laspistol if shooters become a nuisance, either to retreat or charge em and force them into melee

[honest robin]

ive been trying to get staff blessings (among other things) from melk for weeks

today he finally puts warp flurry 4 up and its for the damn purgatus

i dont think that's good even if i liked the thing

[harsh urchin]

Purg is good

The problem is that the meta ebbs and flows

So it's always good to build up your bank

[west stream]

I just really like the las pistol aiming at heads

honestly love me the immunity to ranged on weakspot hit

is great vs those groups of a dozen gunners

[ornate hamlet]

my dearly beloved

[honest robin]

i mean i think the blessing isnt good for it, but i also just dont like the staff itself

[cosmic sigil]

sg and ws?

[harsh urchin]

Flurry4 is good on purg

[royal ibex]

'hey we noticed you struggled to clear that last high intensity vent purge damnation mission, with 3 deaths to boot, so as a reward, heres a mk1 DC sword with 19% damage'

thanks emperors gift, very cool

[frail sand]

there should be a channel for emperor's brick

[steel flame]

we just absoultly demolished an auric maelstrom

[frail sand]

[steel flame]

with 2 gun psykers, a loner zealot and a shield ogryn

19 minutes

1 death

nobody took more than 700 damage

it was disgusting how fast we were moving

[frail sand]

waiting for that 83k AM mission to roll

i need dockets

[steel flame]

was on smelter btw

[frail sand]

I-E?

[steel flame]

?

[frail sand]

specialist, nurgle blessings

seems like a good AM

[steel flame]

yea

[frail sand]

oh it just rolled another with the same modifiers

[crystal oxide]

When there's no Vets, psyker's are indeed Vets

[steel flame]

even when there ARE vets sometimes

[frail sand]

lmao we just got a quad ogryn AM lobby

[copper jay]

You can get laspistol up to 45% crit chance base
how ?

[crystal oxide]

Scier is a flat 20% crit when its active

So pop Scier and go ham

With the talent that gives up to 20% more damage as peril climbs, you can do some Ex Stance levels of shenagigans

[steel flame]

25% base, 30% with perk, 35% with aura, 40% with crit chance node........i forgot where the other 5% comes from, then you can push it to 60 or 65% with scrier

[crystal oxide]

You need disrupt destiny going at full tilt to really see the benefits I think

[steel flame]

laspistol crit and weakspot damage already high

[crystal oxide]

But its good to know that if a monster pops up, you just go full auto

[steel flame]

destiny pushed it into overdrive

[copper jay]

where did you get that 25% base ? the weapon don't have crit modifier

[crystal oxide]

las pistol has a very high crit chance

Its one of its gimmicks

[steel flame]

psyker has a base 5% crit, laspistol has 20% crit chance modifier

[copper jay]

crit dmg and weakstop dmg yes but where you know its 25% for base ?

[crystal oxide]

Granted, I still cant like the laspistol because goddamn is it not very ammo efficient

[steel flame]

data mining