psyker-class

[bright mica]

actually might put the recon lasgun sight on it

its actually nice to use

[limber tartan]

No wonder inventing shit is considered herecy

[hollow jolt]

same, idk how to pull it off on other guns :c

[limber tartan]

its because of shit like this

[hollow jolt]

I want it on my revolver lol

[hollow jolt]

this is peak performance, ask the Omnissiah

[bright mica]

ripper mag with certain autogun recievers

[fading iris]

this is a skin that was sold at some point or something made for the customization mod?

[hollow jolt]

ah ok that's why I can't get it on revolver :c

[bright mica]

here u go king

[hollow jolt]

pain

[fading iris]

I`m not using the mod, just asking where it pulls the skins from

[plucky flax]

I was cursed with greatness.

[lethal lagoon]

o7

[hollow jolt]

datamined skins

some of it is unreleased content

[fading iris]

I see

[hollow jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168063453416669284/1172673355984412764/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2023-11-10_15-47-53.mp4?ex=65612c2b&is=654eb72b&hm=e8302f7762f3c041b8f24b709bf16a25fad52b62e85caa4a64f02188e86f1c29&

there's some spicy stuff in the Extended version though

[fading iris]

why the scope has rifling?

[hollow jolt]

I need a scope for my Brainburst pls

[fading iris]

[hollow jolt]

are you questioning the Omnissiah's will varlet?

[bleak tulip]

makes the photons enter your eyes better

[hollow jolt]

^

[fading iris]

bro shot the hate gaze of his eyes

to make sure that the laser goes out

[static needle]

How do you farm curios and upgrade their effects to the 20s percentage?

[fading iris]

by camping the store npc

can go crazy on Sir Milk too

[limber tartan]

Huh, that might actually be my mouse reaching the end of its life cycle

[fading iris]

I would assume that the random gatcha for curios is on Sir Melk is more forgiving than melee and range weapons because of the pool

[bright mica]

what sheodoq said

[fading iris]

but because the way you get the currency, I prefer camping both stores instead of luck

[bright mica]

or just use the chrome app

btw whats good on the traumaforce

ive never given it a good try

but i heard its good

[hasty pier]

where are you guys making these?

[fading iris]

dafuq wait there is an app to check the store?

[bright mica]

oh god y

you

check it manually?!!?

[hasty pier]

Yes

[bright mica]

search Armory Exchange

[fading iris]

I mean... a button click is faster than alt tab

[bright mica]

you can check all of your characters armory/melks in it

and even have filters

[quick heron]

WarpNexus+Blze Spirit, or WarpFLurry+Rending. I prefer the blaze.

[bright mica]

to only show u certain blessings/levels etc.

[fading iris]

I`m monoclass

[bright mica]

there's max rending in melks rn

[hasty pier]

Second on blaze.

Its so fucking nice when you get a good one

[bright mica]

so i might grab that

[fading iris]

until I level up the other ones just to get the currency on sir Melk

[lethal lagoon]

blaze is also nice for your teammates, cause then they can see who's alive on the floor

[viscid matrix]

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/armoury-exchange/hcjihmkcnjkfkaeebhnpjcnnibpoolgc

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma without healthbars is basically just griefing everyone lmao.

[bright mica]

yoink for rending yay or nay

[hasty pier]

"if they're not on fire after the blast, they're dead"

[quick heron]

Blaze trauma

[hasty pier]

This is my future flurry staff

[quick heron]

Blaze OP

[viscid matrix]

grab for rending if you dont have it yet, but then sacrifice it to hadron cause its dogshite

[bright mica]

ofc

[fading iris]

found here, but the link confirms I was looking that the right one, thanks!

[bright mica]

can u do blaze and rending or nah

[lethal lagoon]

You never know what's going to get a buff, for t4s are usually a grab for me.

[strong gulch]

If you're shorter, it's easier to duck behind stuff.

If you're taller, it's easier to shoot over non-Ogryn players. Might be easier to get head shots on taller enemies with strike down patterns.

[viscid matrix]

at least you can use it 😄 i have Opera so cant use it

[ornate hamlet]

i just went right smack dab in the middle

[bright mica]

ooh I had this sitting around my inventory for a while

[hasty pier]

Hopefully I can still turn this one into a blazing sword

[bright mica]

is blaze 3 good enough or nah

[fading iris]

Not gonna use it, manually is okay for me the less apps I need, the better

[hasty pier]

Its good enough

[fluid knot]

Blessed

[lethal lagoon]

there's no blaze 4 on trauma, right?

[quick heron]

Nope

[bright mica]

oh blaze 4 doesnt even exist lmao

[hasty pier]

In general 3 is good enough for almost everything

4 is just a cherry on top

[limber tartan]

Only a dream

[quick heron]

You want defacto Nexus 4 tho, if possible, and a 5% crit perk

[bright mica]

nah, haymaker is a good example

[quick heron]

SO lucky rollls

[hasty pier]

"in general"

there are exceptions

[bright mica]

ah damn

I see

warp nexus gives you crits

[hasty pier]

2% more at max

[bright mica]

what melee to couple it with? deimos/dsword4?

[hasty pier]

Like going to 4 just gives me 0.5% more at min and 2% more at max

its not going to break the staff

[lethal lagoon]

Literally unuseable

[clear heath]

what the

[bright mica]

oh yeah warp nexus 3 is good enough, just some blessings need to be higher or theyre ass

[ornate hamlet]

I just couldn’t decide. Put it in the middle slightly toward the shorter side. I hate sliders in games when I can’t change it afterward. Makes me pull my hair out

[bright mica]

like flechette

[fading iris]

I don't need mods and apps, what I need is Fatshark doing their job without bs and without warp infested workplace

[bright mica]

tyyyy whats a good dump stat then

[hasty pier]

I'm just going to state that chasing the absolute best roll for everything you want to use is going to drive you insane

I've met those people in D2. I think they were masochists

[bright mica]

ig you could dump quell speed if you have a high warp res melee right?

might do that then

[plucky flax]

None for blaze trauma. Lowest can be warp resistance.

[quick heron]

That past screenshot of the 1.3k kills and 250k warpfire, is a 61 dmg trauma...

[strong gulch]

If you can do mods or are open to them, there's a mod that lets you change the height.

But it's a small as far as in game goes.

[bleak tulip]

just get something thats got 70's across the board and youre fine

[bright mica]

how low cause i just got one with 5% LMAOO

[viscid matrix]

there is a guide, it has what blessings are suggested for every weapon

[ornate hamlet]

Ah ok

[plucky flax]

Around 50 something is low. Would not go lower than that.

[hasty pier]

I almost want to start a thread for Trauma staves asking people to post their favorites

just to analyze the stat / blessing distribution lol

[lethal lagoon]

5% might actually be good lmao

Toughness gen and flaming shriek stuff

[strong gulch]

Level the 5%

[quick heron]

Blaze trauma def out performs for me anyway rending trauma

[hasty pier]

the warp just flows right through it

[plucky flax]

I have the best blaze trauma pls don't @ me 😤

[hasty pier]

man's staff is a warp superconductor

[lethal lagoon]

@plucky flax

[bright mica]

haha was thinking that but meh

[slow raven]

on trauma you want 80s on everything except damage, it's the only stat where you wont feel a difference

[bright mica]

alright best one i got from 300k, lets see

[lethal lagoon]

I'd try it just for fun

[slow raven]

you will feel a difference between 60 and 80 warp resistance and quell speed

[lethal lagoon]

Blast radius oof

[slow raven]

a 60 damage vs 80 damage trauma feels no different

[bright mica]

bricked or should i keep going

[quick heron]

Dont waste on that. Blast Radius and CHarge rate are number one prios imo

[hasty pier]

oh and someone help me understand something

[plucky flax]

At 80% damage you do 660 on full charge. And we have so many damage increase talent.

[steel flame]

It's a shame half the trauma blessing are completely terrible

[hasty pier]

How on earth is a trauma charge blast supposed to do this?

[plucky flax]

It'll add up to over 100 damage increase over a 60 something staff.

[frank moat]

Half of every stave's blessings are dogass

[strong gulch]

You don't need 80 warp resistacne on trauma, but dang don't go as low as 48%.

I tried that and it was ROUGH.

[lethal lagoon]

trauma can weakpoint the big nurgle pups, right?

[steel flame]

I will never understand why they put surge and sustained fire on trauma

[hasty pier]

what just airblast weakspot hit them?

[bright mica]

alr with trauma, what melee/blitz/aura/ability/keystone should i go for?

[viscid matrix]

dont think so

[lethal lagoon]

Must be remebering wrong then

No clue

[viscid matrix]

#1158835513789272126 or check the guide in the pins for suggested builds

[plucky flax]

Trauma right click does extra damage against bonbon.

[ornate hamlet]

Who’s the little guy in your pic

[hasty pier]

I just find it funny that it has damage tables for weak and crit weak

when I have no idea how you're even supposed to do it

[bright mica]

fair

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma can make him "leave it" too

[bright mica]

its a nendoroid of ryuko matoi

[plucky flax]

Not sure about weakspot but because right click is explosion and bonbon takes extra damage from explosion.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh wow

[hasty pier]

Gimme a bit and I'll show you something ridiculous I saw in Japan

[quick heron]

minimally wildfire, perilous combustion, and I run creeping flames

[lethal lagoon]

wildfire*? isn't very good.

[strong gulch]

These height differences.

[hasty pier]

That's about $1,200 USD

[quick heron]

It isnt on say a surge creeping flames build, but for me I notice it works well on an actually blaze application staff

[hasty pier]

I like maximal fire build

I want a blaze sword

[idle bay]

There used to be meme build Void Staff with Warp nexus and Blazing Spirit

before patch 13

now it just kills before setting anything on fire 🙂

[quick heron]

TRUE, unfortunate

I am liking my surge voide, but man i miss Warp Flurry on it. I feel its just so slow without it.

[terse saffron]

just craft another one with flurry&transfer peril

[idle bay]

Oh my.. forgot to change 1000 misions frame to 1500 mission frame on my Ogryn. I was looking like a new player all this time...

[quick heron]

Thats what I ran before they fixed surge. But now that it works, I like when I see a double pew pew

[slow raven]

use flurry with surge

with true aim you get a ton of crits anyway

[quick heron]

fair

[slow raven]

nexus is good but not strictly better

in a horde you get surge procs with every shot because every shot hits 5 weakpoints

so nexus is wasted there

[viscid matrix]

Nexus is still amazing, it brings you to at least 25% crit chance

criting outside that 1 per 5 weakspots is always worth it

[terse saffron]

you're getting guaranteed crits after every melee encounter anyway

nexus feels kinda redundant with true aim

[summer prairie]

definitely not

[viscid matrix]

i would like to crit the Beast of Nurgle/Plague Ogryn/Chaos Beast

1 every 5 is shit compared to that

[terse saffron]

its at least 1 in 5

[summer prairie]

you don't cleave through every elite and when you are shooting at elites you likely aren't weakspot hitting many targets every shot

[viscid matrix]

not without warp nexus its not

[quick heron]

well its not just crit, its a double shot with surge

[viscid matrix]

thats why crit is so important for void

[quick heron]

I agree, I dont think true aim justifies not running nexus

with surge atleast on void

[limber tartan]

Also that 1 in 5 crits does not work as it is described

[viscid matrix]

its not 1 in 5

its guarenteed crit after 5 weakspot hits

[limber tartan]

Yea

But if your 5th shot happens to crit then you loose the stacks

[fluid knot]

It wasnt even a meme tbh, you could do ridiculous damage with that build by also taking Wildfire an Wrack'n'Ruin. It was difficult to get the most out of tho for sure. Quell cancelling was like fucking mandatory to do anything

[limber tartan]

Since by default your 6th ranged attack will be a guaranteed crit after 5 weakspot hits

Therefore if you happen to crit your 5th shot you will waste the guaranteed crit

[glossy ember]

can combat knife by itself manage a crowd?

[fluid knot]

If you're good enough with it

Its not easy going tho

[steel flame]

It's doable though

[frail sand]

lmao had two knife zealots in AM just now

[still hearth]

I mean if you shove

[frail sand]

both loners

[still hearth]

You can hold off a horde

It's just slow

And painful

[steel flame]

Push attacks on knives are the safest thing in the game

[fluid knot]

I wish puglets wouldnt give Loner so much bad press 😢

[frail sand]

both were rushing forward like theres no tmrw, but one was a god the other was a ragequitter

somehow both were obnoxious to play with

[fluid knot]

Everyone hates it till you get a person who knows how to use it, an then that person is gonna save your fucking game if it goes to shit

[limber tartan]

Yea those guys are the worst

[glossy ember]

[limber tartan]

If you're gonna run off then at least don't die

[frail sand]

my issue is that some of their playstyle is literally what triggers the wipe in the first place

[fluid knot]

Thats the thing tho. You shouldnt be running off from the team unless a bomber or sniper is being super oppressive

Even with Loner

[steel flame]

I kinda play crit psyker like a zealot and do a lot of flanking with my speed to murder gunners and stuff pinning the team down, ranged immunity and dodge slides help alot

[glossy ember]

The extra mobility could make it really good for me...

[limber tartan]

I do that its pretty fun

[frail sand]

this knife zealot zoomed away 500m

[bleak tulip]

I mean thats what the longer players people complain about do, remember that reddit is full of malice players and so are their loner players

[frail sand]

i couldnt even catch up

[bleak tulip]

they WILL get dogged

[glossy ember]

I'll keep practicing knife with flaming shriek psyker for now

[bleak tulip]

so people bitch

[steel flame]

Havent played loner zealot or zealot period but I imagine it's how it plays

[glossy ember]

then maybe i'll use knife on my surge ||scrier|| build over illisi

[still hearth]

Give Loner play style get out of net ability

[frail sand]

fr

just let it become 4 true solo lobby

[fluid knot]

You play it the same way you play anything else till it all goes to shit, then you have ridiculously good survivability to get everyone back in the fight

[summer prairie]

flurry+sustained fire void feels pretty good though

[terse saffron]

infiltrate knife zelly can finish the mission all by himself provided he has the right build/gear

[plucky flax]

I am loner zealot pls no flame.

[frail sand]

im not disputing that, it's just incredibly obnoxious for us poor non-infiltrate-zealot people

[long wharf]

No flamer = getting flamed

[fluid knot]

If you play it like that, you're bad

Simple as

[bleak tulip]

if you wanna solo, theres mods for that

[terse saffron]

if you die with just 1 knife junkie running off you're bad

[limber tartan]

It's not necesarily about running off but rather it's about them running off and dying alone or just not being with the team when everything goes to shit

[fluid knot]

Yup

[fluid knot]

What does this even mean

If someone willingly seperates themself in a team game, they're an idiot

[left mirage]

is laspistol gaze really the best boss dps psyk has?

[terse saffron]

it speeds up the mission when he fucks off and does all the objectives

[left mirage]

its kinda

whelming

[fluid knot]

At least outside of some very niche situations

[terse saffron]

you just clear all the enemies and go to extraction

[frail sand]

...?

[fluid knot]

I dont play this to speedrun. Nor do most of us, you wanna play like that, go use the solo mod, because literally noone appreciates it

[summer prairie]

void staggering bosses is likely a bug/unintentional since it only happens when you run surge

[frail sand]

and u wonder why these loners get bad rep

[bleak tulip]

except this isnt 99% of the loner zealot players out there, thats why people on reddit bitch abou em

[plucky flax]

Common loner stealth clutch (timestamped)
https://youtu.be/MlnyrBOzuGA?t=591

[terse saffron]

tf are you on i dont even have a zealot build since patch 13

[near wyvern]

Sprint (and spring cancelling) might make the animation jump to right weirdly since the sprinting position has the gun further on the right

[fluid knot]

And im supposed to know that how when you're trying to justify the most moronic playstyle in the game?

[terse saffron]

between those and fresh 30s i'd rather chose loner zealots

[frail sand]

i rather play with fresh 30s if they are playing as a team

[limber tartan]

I don't really see the loner part, he was near the team when they got fucked up soo he ran to pick up the other guy where there is less enemies

[fluid knot]

In fact, thats too generous, its not even a playstyle, its just being deliberately idiotic

[hasty pier]

Imagine not being there for your team

[long wharf]

I'd rather play with people that are trying to play as a team and willing to learn

[fluid knot]

Yep

Idc if someone is struggling so long as they're trying

[steel flame]

Here's a fun concept, you can separate and still play as a team. A groundbreaking concept I know

[terse saffron]

a team of 3 is not a team anymore?

[long wharf]

the game isn't balanced around a team of 3

3 good players can do it

[hasty pier]

A team of one certainly isn't

[terse saffron]

let the man speed up the mission if hes good enough

[fluid knot]

Sure, which in some situations you should, but you absolutely shouldnt be three rooms away from your team trying to solo the mission because you think you're a god

[plucky flax]

Idk maybe that guy sucks sry.

[long wharf]

the AI director likes to see a person off by themselves and punish them

[terse saffron]

thats why he gets loner

[limber tartan]

I feel like people confuse the concept of orbiting your team and literally running the fuck away where no one can help him if he is caught

[fluid knot]

Yeah, they indeed do

[long wharf]

a good loner does that

[hasty pier]

That's the shtick. It's less that 3 can't do the job and more that one person has already checked out of playing as a team.

[bright mica]

woah

[long wharf]

most loners aren't good

[bright mica]

trauma force is so fun

[bright mica]

good loner gameplay is fun asf but most loners bottom score

[hasty pier]

You think that zealot is going to do anything but ignore the others if things go haywire?

[frail sand]

the concept of extended reach for your team does not equal being on planet mars when shit hits the fan

[plucky flax]

Found another loner clutch. This guy must be god loner gamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdu8HWH_r-c

[steel flame]

Well That's just stupid right there, but alot of people think playing as a team consists of standing shoulder to shoulder and getting themselves clapped all at once

[fluid knot]

Yeah, it can be the case, my bad, misunderstood

[long wharf]

and most people's complaints are generally true - the guy that runs off way ahead typically goes down, is unrescuable, and causes the AI director to punish the team for it

[hasty pier]

Shit I know people from Arma who still don't understand what the word spacing means

[lethal lagoon]

Why even stealth at that point....

[hasty pier]

In the worst case, your team should at least be in eyeshot or in distance that you can sprint to them in less than 10 seconds.

[limber tartan]

Well stealth is a get out of jail free card

[long wharf]

hmm, the Milkman is trying to sell me this

[limber tartan]

And he is alone soo he better use it

[plucky flax]

How do you mean?

[lethal lagoon]

Seemed largely underused and pretty useless.

[terse saffron]

nice snipe on the rending shockwave

[lethal lagoon]

Might as well run charge at that point

[bleak tulip]

stealth lets you pick up for free and gives you big damage

[terse saffron]

far from the meta but fun to play

[lethal lagoon]

No no, I love stealth

but that video is a terrible example of stealth use

[plucky flax]

[limber tartan]

I feel like loosing agro of at least 3 gunners and 2 dogs is is pretty good when everyone is down to pick someone up

[bleak tulip]

you changed your yt name

[plucky flax]

No more made when I was 12 youtube name.

[steel flame]

He's trying to hide his crimes

[plucky flax]

I also have footage of loner clutch but with chastise.

Veri kool aura.

Always clutching.

[bleak tulip]

in other news, why dont we have a "sorry" quick voice line

or "no"

[plucky flax]

You can have no with mod.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that's a mod.

[hasty pier]

And you can even hear it without the mod

[lethal lagoon]

and see it too

[hasty pier]

Because I don't have it and I know I've heard and seen it

[static needle]

What curios should i run with assail/surge staff/mk iv duel sword build?

[limber tartan]

Well it could be using voicelines and animations that are in game files but just not used

[lethal lagoon]

3 stamina balance it out.

[hasty pier]

Do you need more health, toughness, stamina, or need more of a safety net?

[static needle]

uh idk haha

i thought that running toughness on all 3 would be good cause then i can replenish toughness thru quelling peril

and the toughness regen would be greater

[hasty pier]

Then I'd grab more stamina, an extra wound, and health.

[static needle]

idk tho maybe its the wrong choice

[umbral helm]

I like to use that extra commands mod to quick respond "need help" to someone being an ass. it adds nothing but it does piss them off usually which is funny

[slate willow]

somebody help with penance

[static needle]

#vox-lfg-nasa

go there and ask

[drowsy slate]

Can someone explain to me what fitness damage is on scryers gaze?

[normal matrix]

Finesse*

It means bonus damage to weakspots

[drowsy slate]

Yes sorry 😅

[lethal lagoon]

and crit

[static needle]

Good roll?

[umbral helm]

fitness damage in the daemonhost's jaw

[drowsy slate]

So more crit and weakspot damage 🤔

[normal matrix]

Fitness daemon in your soul
-Tzeentch

[umbral helm]

do more damage to face, and make yellow number bigger

[drowsy slate]

Is there a foot crit ranged weapon for psyker besides surge?

[terse saffron]

you want finesse and first target as close to 80 as possible

[drowsy slate]

Good

[lethal lagoon]

foot crit?

[umbral helm]

that's what happens when you step on a lego barefoot

[lavish oar]

Autocorrupt I believe

[lethal lagoon]

That what happens when a fetishist sees the Daemonhost's feet

[static needle]

This roll better? @terse saffron

[drowsy slate]

😅 sorry iam on mobile right now and my English auto correction isn’t the best … iam German 😅

[terse saffron]

yeah, heaps. still far from ideal

[lethal lagoon]

Also typically scrier's gaze is for guns or assail.

[static needle]

is warp resistance a dump stat for the illisi?

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers

[terse saffron]

yeah, 50 is more than enough

[umbral helm]

"no little german psyker, don't go into the next room"
"oh mein gott, zis room is fullen of daemonhosten"

[static needle]

this better?

wait no it isnt xD

[terse saffron]

depending on your build this one might oneshot mutants in the head on a heavy special swing

idk why you dumped all your rerolls before fully upgrading it though

[umbral helm]

hope

[static needle]

mistkaes

i fug up

[terse saffron]

just run this until you get something else worth upgrading

[shell igloo]

What's she need boys? Feels like we've got a pretty good roll here

[terse saffron]

flurry to surge and you have a meta staff on your hands

[bright mica]

okay quite enjoying traumaforce but from what i've seen the blazing spirit build is sort of a meme since it seems to already delete everything instead of letting them get ignited

[lethal lagoon]

That's a trauma lmao

not a void

No surge

[bright mica]

surge

is on t rauma

[terse saffron]

im rarted

[lethal lagoon]

I mean don't add it lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not saying it's not there, I'm saying don't add it.

[terse saffron]

blazing soul then

[shell igloo]

I quite like the rending shockwave but I feel like that's a specific other kind of build

[long zodiac]

what should I slap on this thing

[bright mica]

I think imma roll with warp flurry + rending since the horde-clear is way more than enough without blazing soul, what should i run to supplement it? i've been finding double shield and assail useful

[shadow wigeon]

You can make a great blazing trauma staff with that.

By great I mean max tier, really

[long wharf]

surge blessing is not meta on trauma staff

it only procs for primary fire

[drowsy slate]

My thoughts are on an assyle build that mainly plays assile but has a gun for boss killing and crushers and I thought I would ask here what you guys thinks fits best for that task

[terse saffron]

#psyker-class message

[small goblet]

Deimos, Illisi, or Obsrcurus? and why

[bright mica]

oh I actually made a build exactly like this earlier

[drowsy slate]

Is it good?

[bright mica]

yeah it's good, i've done the recent maelstrom

with it

[lethal lagoon]

I mean revolver is the obvious choice, the problem is there's a bug where hand cannon affects assail and makes it a "bit" too OP

[bright mica]

it isn't lol

laspis with gaze is highest boss dps on psyker

[static needle]

At what mobility score do u get unlimited dodges for illisi?

[lethal lagoon]

But carpace?

[umbral helm]

it's weird that trauma can even roll surge, but I guess it technically serves a purpose for the lmb. but, it's the only staff besides voidstrike that can roll it. but, I guess surge being able to roll surge might confuse some people

[bright mica]

many good melee options that can destroy carapace on psyker

dsword4 or deimos for example

[lethal lagoon]

that's not what he was asking though

[bright mica]

he said boss killing

[bleak tulip]

not as good as my plasteel senpai but still good

[static needle]

did they remove unlimited dodges?

[bright mica]

crushers yes

[drowsy slate]

What bug?

[bright mica]

but i'd steer him towards laspis anyway

[frank moat]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

This bug 🐞

[static needle]

limit is 5?

[frank moat]

Yep

[umbral helm]

I'll be real, I didn't even notice the dodge change

[static needle]

so mobility is a dump stat now for illisi?

[frank moat]

Personally I’d rather a low Warp Res but Mobility is a close second

[terse saffron]

mobility or warp res you'll have to decide/roll yourself

[drowsy slate]

I would like to have an ranged answer for crushers and bosses I thought on the hand canon too

[quiet summit]

Deimos feels best for me but i saw people do amazing with all three force swords

[drowsy slate]

But I don’t want to abuse bugs

[bright mica]

you could roll with revy like the other guy said, but i'd personally go for laspistol due to it being the single highest boss DPS on psyker (especially with the gaze ability). Currently running Deimos+Laspis+Assail+Seers-Presence+Gaze+Disrupt-Destiny and it's very good. Deimos heavy 2 knocks Crushers on their ass btw and its charged attack deals with them easily enough.

[umbral helm]

if I wanted to abuse bugs I'd probably just play Hollow Knight

[terse saffron]

then roll crit surge voidstrike it oneshots all carapace enemies on crit headshots

[gloomy magnet]

[hoary charm]

Best way to get warp battery done?

[terse saffron]

any shock gauntlet mission without elevators

[drowsy slate]

I already have this

[terse saffron]

hab dreyko is fairly fast one provided you dont get stuck waiting in the airlock

[hoary charm]

Regular shock and high intensity right?

Ignore low intensity?

[terse saffron]

you get random charges from team horde kills so hi int shock would be ideal

[hoary charm]

Spam assail or run brain burst?

[long wharf]

don't think of it as "abusing bugs"

[hoary charm]

Tried assail spam and I got to 180 seconds

[long wharf]

but instead "enjoy the game as Fatshark (whether on purpose or not) made it for the moment"

[hoary charm]

Its a feature that will be removed

[long wharf]

because Fatshark has in the past, and will again, crippled or broken working things

for far worse

[drowsy slate]

🤔

[long wharf]

Fatshark devs are, frankly, incompetent

[terse saffron]

should be doable with either one of those really. its just map dependent with random shitty timelocked gates/elevators on some

[fluid knot]

No, do think of it as abusing bugs, because it impacts other games

[long wharf]

and the way they implemented the game mechanics in Lua means it's far, far too easy for them to miss every implementation of a mechanic or change

[fluid knot]

Oh yay, you just oneshot a crusher with Surge, real fun for everyone else in the lobby

[long wharf]

they unironically do not know all the nuances of their own code

[lethal lagoon]

tbf most of the people still using surge bug are so bad at the game it outweighs the bug somehow

[long wharf]

when there's 6 crushers, you'll be glad the psyker can do that

[fluid knot]

Lol, no

[lethal lagoon]

By sheer talent and skill not even a double damage+ boost is enough to save them

[long wharf]

and complaining about the surge staff+EP interaction is really stupid

[lethal lagoon]

Ew.

[hearty oak]

Is there any reason to really use the trauma force staff?

[long wharf]

it's the only way the surge staff feels good to use

[terse saffron]

like you can dance around them with uncanny mk4 whats the difference

[long wharf]

you can't kill 4 crushers with a single stab with the mk4

[fluid knot]

It feels fine without abusing a bug that literally doubles its damage

[long wharf]

and it's not a "bug", it's an "unintended interaction"

[lethal lagoon]

If the only way surge feels good is with a double damage bug, you need to find a new game to play. Surge is easy mode without the bug already.

[fluid knot]

That just sounds like a poor way of trying to justify it

[long wharf]

because of lazy coding, that being the surge secondary being the same attack object as the smite ability

[terse saffron]

and otherwise it feels like you're hitting them with a wish.com flashlight+shocker abomination

[long wharf]

the distinction matters

[lethal lagoon]

Look mate, cheat if you want, don't try to whitewash it though.

[fluid knot]

Yep

[long wharf]

regardless, I wouldn't even use the surge staff without the EP interaction

[fluid knot]

It do be like that

[long wharf]

it doesn't do enough damage otherwise

[near wyvern]

Yes, it's meta for control while dealing damage with the flame trauma setup, and even with flurry setup it does good damage.

[fluid knot]

Surge is in the best place its ever been even without the bug.

[long wharf]

that's objectively wrong

[fluid knot]

If you need 100% extra damage to feel like your contributing, thats a fuckin skill issue

[long wharf]

wrong again

the surge staff had better utility when it was CC focused

[terse saffron]

it used to be a glorified mutant stopper stick

[long wharf]

that you don't do as much stagger now as you used to is bad

[fluid knot]

It has that exact same utility anyway, just drag your mouse across enemies

[long wharf]

that you do half damage to the second target is bad

[fluid knot]

It just now actually kills stuff, which is like 1000% better than it was before

[hearty oak]

Is it? I never see anyone using it ever

[glossy ember]

i love normal surge staff

[long wharf]

the surge staff killed flak decently before

[fluid knot]

It killed scab shooters an stalkers. Nothing else

[hearty oak]

I know it can take some idea on how to use it but i just never see it anymore

[long wharf]

you're making me think you never played with the surge staff before patch 13

the old surge staff put in work on everything

[fluid knot]

Believe whatever you like mate, im not the one trying to justify abusing a bug 😂

[long wharf]

it killed scabs, it killed scab gunners

it killed specials

it stunned everything but bosses

[glossy ember]

it still does nicely. One crits yellow gunner, one hits black gunner, 3 hits or 1crit 1 hit mauler

2 hits flak ragers i believe

[long wharf]

careful on that high horse, championing arbitrary morale stances is a very shaky ground

[lethal lagoon]

It 1 hits all shooter mobs with an instant right click

[fluid knot]

If you wanna use it, like i legit dont care, but dont tell other people to use it. Thats just compounding the issue

[long wharf]

why not? it's a part of the game right now

[lethal lagoon]

Don't care either, just don't pretend you aren't cheating and negatively affecting other people.

[long wharf]

it's not abusing anything

[fluid knot]

Its. A. BUG.

[long wharf]

hah, it's not cheating at all

you have no idea what cheating is

[fluid knot]

Next you're gonna tell me Assail and Handcannon is totally fine jesus christ

[lethal lagoon]

I mean if fatshark wasn't lazy, bug abuse would get a warning in most online games of this scale.

A ban after a strike

[long wharf]

jesus h christ, you're so full of yourself

the game's not even competitive

[fresh reef]

Assail is fine, what?

[long wharf]

and yeah I use assail with hand cannon

[near wyvern]

A proper flame trauma is a very rare roll. I do see them every now and then at Auric Damnation.

[long wharf]

assail is also fine without it

[lethal lagoon]

Exactly because it's not competitive, ruining other people's experience is a shitty thing to do.

[long wharf]

I do both, depending on my build

nobody is ruining your experience, snowflake

[fluid knot]

So yes, in other words, you're a shitter who isnt competative unless he has a broken issue helping his damage

[lethal lagoon]

I mnea yeah, I

I'd just queue dodge you

So you and others aren't.

[long wharf]

fantastic

[lethal lagoon]

But not everyone knows about the bug

[long wharf]

I have plenty of good matches with randos

[glossy ember]

Surge is fine without the bug really

[long wharf]

and with friends, we crank up the difficulty and enjoy ourselves

[glossy ember]

flaming shriek build does plenty of damage with it

[long wharf]

o7

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I'm sure it feels nice to be good at the game for once in your life and show off to randos.

[long wharf]

lemme check something

[fluid knot]

Mf's been chasing that Pinning Fire Shredder high ever since the nerf, an boi it shows

[lethal lagoon]

You use surge bug on lower difficuilties in pubs?

lmao

This guy, 😂

[fresh reef]

What is the proper roll on Blazing Trauma, out of curiosity?

[hearty oak]

Why blazing spirit? Seems rather pointless

[long wharf]

because trauma can stack soulblaze on things nearly as quickly as purge can

but it also knocks down basically everything but monstrosities

[fresh reef]

Trauma has a massive blast radius, and 6 stacks of soulblaze kills every trash mob

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma boss damage with blazing shriek and blazing spirit is pretty decent.

Explosions also do more damage to nurgle puppies

so nice syngery for those fuckers

[hearty oak]

massive radius? Since when? I dont know if they buffed it since launch day cause that was the last time i used it

[long wharf]

trauma has gotten buffed

[fresh reef]

The stagger radius is larger than the actual damage radius

[fresh reef]

since launch day
lol

[long wharf]

and it'll soulblaze everything it hits, regardless of damage dealt

[hearty oak]

I would have hoped so.
@fresh reef Yeah, left a sour taste in my mouth for how clunky it was so i just threw it to the winds

[long wharf]

well, it's still clunky, the aiming system hasn't changed

that part still aggravates me

[terse saffron]

columnus 5 dumdum raking is almost exactly that

[fresh reef]

Tbf it sucks if you don't have a good roll on it

[languid osprey]

purgatus at home

[long wharf]

without blazing spirit, trauma is just spreading enemies around

which is the opposite of what you want to happen

[fresh reef]

Like, trying to play it on a leveling psyker is genuinely agony

[hearty oak]

Why not do Rending on it and just have it kill the enemies instead

[bright mica]

you can and its also a good option

[cursive solar]

is the shard useless now?

[long wharf]

nope, never was

[bright mica]

assail?

[fresh reef]

Far from it

[cursive solar]

isn't good against bosses, isn't good enough against hordes

yes

[fresh reef]

It's supposed to kill ranged enemies and specials

[hearty oak]

I would just assume so. Stacking fire be good for bosses but theres just better options i would think

[long wharf]

assail is definitely good against hordes

[fresh reef]

That's how I've been using it anyway

[long wharf]

you just have to pay attention to your spacing

there's a sweet spot in distance for using assail optimally

[terse saffron]

works best on gun psyker unholy abomination builds

so you only use ammo on elites

[cursive solar]

what skill should I use with assail, the barrier?

[long wharf]

barrier is good for team play

[languid osprey]

farmed like hell for this

[long wharf]

shriek is good for protecting yourself from self destruction

[hearty oak]

Tactical suicide bombing excuse you

[fresh reef]

And deleting hordes, or the random sniper in the next room you couldn't see

[strange nova]

hey buds

[long wharf]

if only there was a build that focused on doing that

[strange nova]

do the duelling swords share a blessing pool?

[long wharf]

high wound build that prevented you from going down when you self destructed

I'd play that

[hearty oak]

Bigger radius like a ogryns bfg

[long wharf]

make it apply warpfire/soulblaze to everything as well

to include the ground

[hearty oak]

Kill your frames entirely

[long wharf]

I'd still play it

[hearty oak]

Doont even have to wait to hit death. Like a BB, just slower charge before you detonate

become the poxburster

[ember sonnet]

Do we care about cleave btw cuz I have one with 80s but cleave is 45?

[languid osprey]

idk i like big numbers

Should be the second most important i think

[fresh reef]

I wish the peril explosion did Ogrynheimer levels of damage

[raw idol]

Was the shield dome nerfed? I feel like it used to block fire (scab bombers) but lately some fire has been making it inside.

[fresh reef]

It's always blocked the grenades, and still does, but the fire on the ground creeps through

[near wyvern]

As people have said here, blazing spirit activates on everything touched by the explosion. The aiming visual only shows the epicenter which is the maximum damage. The whole explosion radius is much larger than that.

While the epicenter has pretty small scaling, the outer radius has a huge scaling and on a high roll, the area you hit with the outer explosion is more than 1600% of the epicenter area. (currently around 8m RADIUS so 16m diameter!). Venting Shreik hits enemies in a 30m cone so it hits like half a venting a shreik but in every direction!

Because of this, Trauma was already good before patch 13, but to get a good one, you need to have 78-80% charge rate and blast radius together with +5% crit chance perk, Blazing Spirit and Warp Nexus 4. So a very specific roll but it's really worth it.

Patch 13 increased the epicenter damage and provides even more crit chance and more frequent flame shouts so the build is even stronger now. You can realistically get to around 30-40% crit chance which makes you crit on average around once every third hit depending on how good you are at managing your peril.

The only enemies you cannot control with Trauma are Mutants, but you can one shot them with a regular H2 from Deimos which you should definitely carry with you, and obviously Monstrosities/Bosses, so if you pick Brain Ruptures to deal with that sniper across the bridge (which you should to access Wildfire even tho it has a lot of bugs), you have absolutely no weaknesses in the build.

EDIT: corrected some numbers cause my math was sloppy for radius/diameter and area percentages

[hearty oak]

[hoary charm]

Damn that was rasy

[idle bay]

That pleasant moment on weeken when you finished weeklies on all operatives and can just play game for fun 🙂

[hoary charm]

Did warp battery first try

[idle bay]

Still bricking all the staff that fit for that build so far 🙂

[hoary charm]

So being a dickhead assail spammer is the way to go

[glossy ember]

i dont think i'll ever get mine

[hoary charm]

I spammed assail in a maelstrom

Wave of specialist enemies and hunting grounds

[idle bay]

Brick 1

Brick 2

62 Blast raduis yeah.. sure...

Besides 62% Blast ... usable with replaced blessings

[glossy ember]

i meant like naturally, i always use my ability

hoping i'll get it naturally one day

my highest was 275s i think

[idle bay]

Now i need to buy 3rd brick candidate. Burnt gave my 379 and 377 in row..

[near wyvern]

@idle bay don't be too fixated on getting a 370+ roll on this. I had a 356 base stat (poor damage roll) and only last week found my 370+ roll. The only real difference is I it's a bit more efficient in directly killing elites and specials with the direct hits. Even if the staff doesn't out right kill it will still disable them to be killed in a few seconds.

[idle bay]

This one will do ? 🙂

Salvageble. Lost 1% crit on perks. Now to get T4 Blessings for Trauma....

[near wyvern]

Very well if you get at least one of the following on it:

• T3/T4 crit chance
• Warp Nexus 4
• Blazing Spirit

[idle bay]

Blazing 3 wll do ?

[near wyvern]

There is no blazing 4

This one will do nicely

[idle bay]

Now hunt for T4 nexus on Trauma begins.... still have 8.1k plasteel to burn. Or Melk will sell it me tomorrow

[near wyvern]

Pro tip if you do mid charge quell cancelled shots you can stand in the middle of the horde as long as there are no bruisers. If there are bruisers you can still do it but you gotta be on the lookout on that melee gasp sound and dodge every now and then but you do have enough time to reset dodges if you don't mindlessly spam them.

Use sprint sliding to reposition during channeling and dodges to move during quell cancels and when quelling for a tick or two.

[idle bay]

Thaks for tip but i'm at the point of not spending mental capacity on dodges and blocks - it's hardwired muscle memory now 🙂

It has to be at this point

[glossy ember]

How do I optimize boss damage with combat knife that has bleed + damage on weakpoint if bleed is it still push attack spam after i apply bleed?

[normal matrix]

This mf using the knife on the psyker

[glossy ember]

I'm cooking the worst meal in existance

[atomic zephyr]

Thats not a brick. Put flurry/rending and that staff is a beast

[idle bay]

It's brick for intended build 🙂

[normal matrix]

As long as you are at peace with this

[atomic zephyr]

Whats the build?

[near wyvern]

If you have lacerate and flesh tearer you swap that lacerate to uncanny strike.

Knife hits for poor damage if you are not hitting the weakspots (lacerate) and Uncanny Strike not only allows you to deal with Crushers but also increases your monstrosity (direct and bleed) damage by 1.25x multiplier. Knife has enough base crit to fully cap bleeds with flesh tearer 4 using push attack spam.

[glossy ember]

I've been running a scrier's gaze surge staff build, nothing scares me anymore

[normal matrix]

Aye yeah fair

[glossy ember]

thanks for the tips. lemme get my knife hold on

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1172928645896097792/image.png?ex=656219ed&is=654fa4ed&hm=5be00e82a932f7958e3a444f6a25fb4b0852ad591f10642459be0239dee7de2e&

i think the other blessing at the time was real terrible

so i ended up stuck with lacerate

[idle bay]

Warp Nexus t4 collected 🙂 Build assembled

[glossy ember]

think uncanny strike would do ok? bleed should benefit from rending

[idle bay]

@near wyvern this will do?

[near wyvern]

Yes, it greatly increases your damage output to anything that doesn't die in one hit

[glossy ember]

okay coolio

it'sstill salvageable, unarmoured damage aside

[near wyvern]

It will serve you well

[glossy ember]

just gotta find uncanny strike now

ty

[idle bay]

I farmed materials for whole week... and this weeked imanaged to win at Hardon's Casino

[glossy ember]

no idea if unarmoured does anything lmao

[near wyvern]

T3 and T4 uncanny have the same effect when fully stacked cause rending is currently capped at +100% so if you don't have a T4 don't be sad about slapping that T3 on it for now

[plucky flax]

Rare surge bug abuse moment because it's a hard maelstrom.

[spiral remnant]

mmm what do people consider good blessings on force swords?

i've heard a lot fo conflicting opinions on deflector

I get it's a good tool for dealing with ranged supressing fire but

a lot of people say it's just a crutch for bad positioning

[plucky flax]

I am top 1% psyker and I approve deflector.

Do what you want that let you be comfy and win.

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum

[spiral remnant]

wuz dat

[glossy ember]

[near wyvern]

Second pinned message here

[spiral remnant]

ooo ty

[glossy ember]

I've yet to play with it and haven't really had a moment where I went "damn, i coulda survived with deflector here" because i'd have been fucked either way

but your mileage may vary

[spiral remnant]

is it even possible for the armory to give >t2 blessings on blues/

[atomic zephyr]

Still save the staff incase you want to build rending trauma. The blaze is a decent build.

[idle bay]

Withoit 5% cirt aura crit rate is not to satisfaction... sigh those damn 5% matter a lot

I spoiled by Surge crit build

[near wyvern]

Armoury, don't think so. Might give a T3 but it's rare. Hadron usually gives T3's when going to blue and vary rarely T4. You can see T4's most often when going to orange and your best bet is weapons with high (370+) base stat totals. They seem to get T4's at orange around 20-25% of the time.

[spiral remnant]

ahh got it

[near wyvern]

Melk is your best bet at getting T4 already on the weapon

That being said do save your Melk bucks only for collecting T4 blessings

Crafting a good weapon at Hadron is a lot easier than finding a specific T4 blessing for that said weapon.

[glossy ember]

they stack up yeah, adding a little here and there becomes more than a little

[cursive solar]

does assail right click go trough more enemies?

[limber tartan]

Im debating if 25% damage against unarmored is better than +5% crit on my laspistol

[near wyvern]

It's because people see small number and think the impact must be low but they don't understand that the pure % value means dog shit when we are discussing about proc RATEs. It's frequencies we are interested.

So if you have base 5% crit, your expected crit proc rate is 1 for every 20 attacks. If you get a +5% crit, that is 10% total so 1 every 10 attacks. Already a 100% increase in crit RATE.

Even at 30% crit chance ( 1 in 3.33 attacks) a +5% crit chance is a 16.7% increase in proc RATE.

[near wyvern]

No

[glossy ember]

crit big value when at low crit

[near wyvern]

But Empowered doubles the amount (4 with default, 6 with the +1 upgrade)

[near wyvern]

In short yes

[limber tartan]

Where can i check the base crit chance for weapons

[near wyvern]

Get inventory stats mod

[limber tartan]

Oh i didn't know about this one thanks that'll help

[near wyvern]

Takes into account everything you have, but remember Auras are not active in lobby so you gotta go to meat grinder to get aura to show up in crit total as well

[limber tartan]

Need to know if that 5% will make a big difference when put into comparison against +25% damage to unarmored when i already have +25% to flak

[glossy ember]

You'd need to test your breakpoints with and without unarmoured. I think the only unarmoured elites are shotgunners and yellow gunner, right?

[limber tartan]

Well i take the +25% damage to flak and unarmored specifically for enemies with guns to pick them off and easily keep up dd stacks

[frigid sparrow]

So I love soulblaze. I love applying stacks. I love putting exactly 8 stacks on a thing and going "that'll do" and move on. I'm doing crit purge atm. Does the trauma staff have a similar style? How does the soulblaze stuff work with it?

[limber tartan]

33% without that additional 5% crit perk on the weapon

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[fading iris]

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[normal matrix]

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[frigid sparrow]

Guys is that a poxburster?

Get away from it, get AWAY, FUCK SHOVE IT, AHH FUCK

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[fading iris]

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WHAT THE FUCK

[ornate hamlet]

f'kaydia

[fading iris]

"For my dreams of choccy milk!"

[idle bay]

Well.. after taking Trauma for a run. It's a good way to torture myself. I've got a nerve tick after targrting Trauma charged attack for 20 minutes....

[limber tartan]

This should be decent

[dark stag]

what are the dump stats on voidstrike?

[orchid dirge]

smash or pass

[limber tartan]

Time to run some auric maelstorm with randoms

[cursive solar]

why all assail psiker build seems to reccomend shield

seems meh

the push removes perill

[dusky pagoda]

i just got kicked for not having the shield, just before the match ended

[orchid dirge]

i run scrier's gaze, with assail

push it to the limit

[dark stag]

is this worth upgrading?

[plucky flax]

This end event with monsters spawning on top of the boss.

Was rough.

I had to abuse surge bug for it.

[drowsy slate]

Surge bug 😅? The surge staff bug or which one?

[cursive solar]

can I have tips about how to assail psyker?

[zenith idol]

Punch them in the face

[cursive solar]

do I spam assail, then swap to sword or staff, then back to assail spam?

[idle bay]

Don't just spam it. Fire few and guide them through heads then fire next salvo.

[glossy ember]

@near wyvern

[idle bay]

On low enemy count launch with RMB and guide

[cursive solar]

like 2 or 3?

and then aim to enemies?

[steel flame]

Use a laspistol and quick swap between laspistol and assail

[cursive solar]

I should watch a video

[idle bay]

Yes. Clears horde and saves "ammo"

[cursive solar]

laspistol? I tought best was to use forcesword, forcestaff

[primal aurora]

learn to control tone of your whistle

[steel flame]

Lol

[cursive solar]

mkV and MkIV

[cursive solar]

feels like playing blue mary poppins

[steel flame]

I still think they need to drop assail ammo to 3

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Marcs

Marcs can I trust you

@cursive solar

[cursive solar]

WITH YOUR LIFE

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Excelent

Please watch my sandwhoch while I’m gone

Make sure nothing happens to it

[glossy ember]

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PUT IT DOWN

NOT YOURS

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[tough blaze]

psyker gank whats the best duelling sword

[zenith idol]

HEAVY IS DEAD

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Had it coming

[visual adder]

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[zenith idol]

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[bright mica]

i cant believe i didnt give trauma force a try before holy shit it's my favorite staff ever

[tough blaze]

area go boom

[bright mica]

decided to run it with creeping flames and it actually works

[glossy ember]

wtf

700k

[bright mica]

instead of shield i went for 3 toughness curios and just face tank gunners

and . it works

i can just face tank them

[fading iris]

Everybody likes Trauma until the debuff starts, whisperings of your failures

[bright mica]

the what

[tough blaze]

which one is creeping flames again

[tough blaze]

AH

[bright mica]

i just decided to do my own thing

and man

man

it fucks

so hard

lemme go on builder and share the build with yall and have u guys pick it apart XD

[steel flame]

Trial and error

[tough blaze]

anyway still trying all the duelling sword

[fading iris]

"Now test it on auric damnation!" -Some tryhard

[frail sand]

does the other one even do anything

[steel flame]

That's how I figure my builds out

[frail sand]

the not-creeping-flames one

[tough blaze]

100-200 damage depending on your peril...

[bright mica]

i've used it on maelstrum before but not with creeping flames face tank build

[bright mica]

its shit

worse damage overall

[tough blaze]

very shit.

[frail sand]

why does that even exist

[tough blaze]

if they change that to like 200-500 damage

[steel flame]

For some reason they gave it falloff

[orchid shadow]

I had a rare Trauma user in my last game while I was running Smite. Felt bad, as if I was actively griefing the Trauma user by not letting things bunch up.

[tough blaze]

MAYBE

[fading iris]

I like when someone finds a build they like

[bright mica]

were you in my game cus i had a smite user and we were like bread and butter together

he held clumps of elites together while i fucked them with trauma aoe

[steel flame]

Creeping flames works great with fire trauma

[bright mica]

btw... my trauma wasnt even good

😭

[frail sand]

[bright mica]

i am a trauma addict now

[fading iris]

that staff looking weird

[fluid knot]

Shame, shame on you

[tough blaze]

what u mean it looks fine!

[bright mica]

felt like bonking a hammer to smite my foes wouldve gone hard

it does

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[fluid knot]

I'll give you that, it does look cool

But now im just mad that my TH isnt that elegant

[ornate hamlet]

voidhelm

[tough blaze]

anyway which duelling sword i should use MK 2 /4 /5

[ornate hamlet]

4

[fading iris]

I do need some staff skins

[tough blaze]

any perticular reason?

[maiden wolf]

Do you know where I can find the download?

[steel flame]

4 can do everything

[ornate hamlet]

funny heavies, funny lights

[bright mica]

Anyway this is what I ran. Triple Toughness Curios, Combat Knife and obviously that shitty Trauma Force.

I saw a lot of ppl running double shield with Trauma and I don't like double shield so I just went "fuck it, I will BECOME THE SHIELD"

and stacked a fuck ton of toughness

atm I have 190 but I could get more if I fixed up my perks

[ornate hamlet]

Building fire shriek is hilarious

[bright mica]

I can face tank gunners for daysssss

[bright mica]

it was dope cause I could clear 1 frontline from trash/elites and just

shriek

and delete our flankers

getting 100 kills with a single F press

[ornate hamlet]

Which reminds me it's time for me to update my mods because I wanna play knife and taxe a bit and my light spam mod is outdated

[bright mica]

I am a diehard creeping flames user

[burnt island]

Have to be in the DarkTide modders Discord to get the .zip.

[glossy ember]

sir that's a hammer

[burnt island]

Does anyone have the link for them? I'm not home atm

[maiden wolf]

found it, thanks!

[fading iris]

I'm starting to have the feeling that In fire Reborn is bugged

[bright mica]

it has more knockback then one

:P

[fading iris]

I mean, idk if is my gameplay or a bug, but with it I get so much faster the warp charges

[bright mica]

im just gonna roleplay my trauma force staff being a psykinetic hammer

i just bonk heretics with my mind

truly dwarven magic

[waxen oak]

how can i get the void battery penance ?

[fluid knot]

Simply kill stuff and dont use your ult

for 5 minutes

[waxen oak]

ok

thx

[cursive solar]

how do I get that view?

[hybrid glade]

I cant seem to decide what melee weapon to use.

I am void strike staff, brain burst and venting build

[fading iris]

the Melee special action on staffs

[plucky flax]

Should have abused handcannon assail instead.

[fluid knot]

[fading iris]

"one is a bug, the other is a feature"

"which one?" "yes"

[fluid knot]

Dont even... someone was trying to justify it earlier an just made themselves look stupid

[hybrid glade]

In general I think its a good practice to avoid using broken weapons or abilities so you dont learn bad habits

[plucky flax]

For myself I don't see a problem with abusing unintended game mechanics to your advantage.

[fluid knot]

Correct

[plucky flax]

The devs should have fixed it fast enough.

They didn't so here we are.

[fluid knot]

At least you're honest about it as opposed to trying to come up with some mental-gymnastics to justify it, even if i dont agree, i can at least respect that view

[hybrid glade]

Just like when every game had 6 vets all using power swords

[plucky flax]

FartShart stamp of quality.

[fading iris]

Well, revy could be changed to be unlocked on a higher level, I used one on my vet, started feeling like a shotgun... but then I started to kill 2 mobs with 1 bullet

[plucky flax]

This carnival map seems very cqb.

Blaze trauma will have fun there.

[fluid knot]

It looks glorious

Instant classic

Fatshark better have some really special plans down the line because i struggle to see them topping this one for a while

[fading iris]

we gonna find a Death Guard dancing like Majima

[plucky flax]

wtf is this standing still keystone

The sub talent better remove the 'moving removes stacks'.

[fading iris]

Are you watching Wile Spice?

[clear heath]

well there's 3 seconds of time you get before it drops stacks

[plucky flax]

No it's from the trailer.

[clear heath]

and i assume it's not dropping all of the stacks instantly

[bleak tulip]

one can only hope thats not ending up bein the best keystone because that sounds fucking awful to have to manage

[clear heath]

what bothers me more is that the buff doesn't look very impressive for what it's asking

[fading iris]

because his video appeared on my feed, I started to watching and he mouse into that keystone at the same time you sent the picture, Warp was at it again

[clear heath]

but maybe the modifiers help with it

[bleak tulip]

I can already see the deranged HUD mods telling you how much you can move before losing a stack

[plucky flax]

I'm about to just play keystone less vets just like current patch.

[clear heath]

for now i will assume that the stack loss on movement ticks at the same rate as zealot's momentum gain on movement

[bleak tulip]

also the amount of vets malding over people blocking their shots

[plucky flax]

Tbf the tagging keystone is good.

It's just free damage and I tag a lot.

[clear heath]

the idea of not tagging that sniper so i can get more damage stacks when i tag a crusher kinda bothers me

like i'm sure it's fine. i just don't like the kind of gameplay they're trying to promote here

[plucky flax]

[clear heath]

but again, maybe the keystone modifier nodes help a lot

also imagine if someone else tagging the boss first just blocks the vet from tagging and getting their damage buff

hilarious

[fading iris]

"If you kill your teammate you get double"

[plucky flax]

The melee keystone will make vet very potent in melee too.

But you have to keep swapping weapons.

[kind jay]

the virgin vet bullet vs the chad psyker bolt

[plucky flax]

FS out here making the reversed momentum keystone.

[kind jay]

imagine not being able to just forcibly penetrate your team

[plucky flax]

Zealot = you move for more damage.
Veteran = you stand still for more damage.

[lethal lagoon]

Quick delete that! Fatshark doesn't need an idea like that.

[fading iris]

Just get gud and weakspot kills to keep the stacks

[plucky flax]

I am not that good I can only body shot.

[plucky flax]

It's already coming with patch 14.

[lethal lagoon]

Wait seriously? Wait a minute, it's already patch 14, almost got me there.

[strong gulch]

Psyker = yelling about stairs and being afraid of doors

[glossy ember]

yooooooo fellas! got an upgrade for my illisi!

[plucky flax]

Just stand still.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh no.

[clear heath]

you get 3 seconds to move

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[glossy ember]

big

[fading iris]

but you`re not wrong, is a weird decision for a keystone

[fluid knot]

So long as you're hitting weakspots you can keep the buff and move it would seem

[lethal lagoon]

I do kind of like them pushing vet more and more towards being a skill based FPS class.

[plucky flax]

I am exposed.

[fluid knot]

But yeah i see that one being the least used keystone

[lethal lagoon]

Rather than the abnomination everyman it was before the major patch

[fluid knot]

I agree, the changes are overall pretty positive

[glossy ember]

fuck, no plasteel

[plucky flax]

It'd be good for my helbore mk2 build potentially.

But even so you dodge around quite a bit.

[fading iris]

but guardsmen are an everyman joe/Jane fusion of things

[clear heath]

just hit heads every 3 seconds

[plucky flax]

And when volley fire activated I aim center mass since my mk2 can 1 shot shooters center mass.

[clear heath]

i wonder how many stacks you can have though

[plucky flax]

It's just easier for me than taking 0.5s extra to aim at heads.

[clear heath]

i aim plasma gun center mass because i'm bad at the game

[lethal lagoon]

Exactly, so to compete with psykers and ogryn and crazy people, you need great skill.

But vet pre major patch needed exactly 0 skill.

[fluid knot]

Im not crazy! Just differently minded!

[fading iris]

the key(stone ha) is to wait the update, getting mad before is a waste of energy that could've be used to kill heretics

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't think i like flaming shriek build lads

[lethal lagoon]

You going back to the gays?

[glossy ember]

indeed

might give flaming shriek a few more shots with diff melee weapons, since it might be biased as i only used combat knife with it

[lethal lagoon]

They do know how to party

[glossy ember]

but knife is fun

it's just that i have no idea if i'm doing good with shriek

also it's pretty noticeable that my ttk is lower at times

[lethal lagoon]

You can track your warpfire damage

[glossy ember]

ye ye

i mean mid fight

sometimes i see 0 burning effext

even tho i knocked mobs back

or like

[plucky flax]

Gazer.

[glossy ember]

only 2-4 are burning

although im tempted to run knife with gazer for movement speed memes

it'd go horrible

my only regret is i don't have enough point for PC in my gaze build

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind the shriek is less of a shriek and more of a kamehameha

[glossy ember]

you mean the aoe is a straight line?

[lethal lagoon]

Straight-ish

I think it's like a cylindar

Is what I've been told and generally understood

[glossy ember]

oh

that's explain why it felt like i wasn't hitting everything in front of me

[fading iris]

What we need is Power Fists, I will die on this hill for my Beloved!

[lethal lagoon]

Like if you want to get a dog off at 30m, you gotta aim straight at it pretty much.

[glossy ember]

a bit weird that a shriek wouldn't hit all around you

but aight

[fading iris]

I was about to make a joke, but nvm

[clear heath]

this might make it more clear what the width is
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1169074077194014730/soulblaze_stall.mp4?ex=655d4e94&is=654ad994&hm=82d435af846097474827efb1cba0061adafaae2f94758b72e79d74170bc439b6&

[glossy ember]

i'll try to aim better

[glossy ember]

ohhhh wtf

that's completely different than what i expected

lmao

[clear heath]

yeah it makes you feel like it's screen wide but it isn't really

[fading iris]

what were you expecting?

[lethal lagoon]

Some weird psykers out there

[glossy ember]

a cone

[lethal lagoon]

Like a normal human being would expect

[glossy ember]

yeahh definitely weird

[lethal lagoon]

But we are psykers

TBF, sound blasts are typically portrayed as cyclinders.

Like air cannons and stuff too

[strong gulch]

You'll have to learn its range. It can go through walls and stagger disablers.

[fading iris]

would be a joke that Slaanesh would like, but I don't want problems with the Inquisition so let's leave at that

[glossy ember]

it sounds like a more difficult to use ogryn shout

[lethal lagoon]

Getting a dog off someone through the walls is so great

[hybrid glade]

Thoughts?