psyker-class

[soft notch]

why do some people prefer demios over illsi?

[frail sand]

i dont really care about the dmg, i just want pretty fire

[near wyvern]

Illisi is for Horde clear, Deimos single targets and it one shots mutants with a regular heavy

[severe folio]

deimos is the single target force sword

but in a horde, sometime single targetting is fine

[soft notch]

ohhh

[severe folio]

because it still has a cleave attack

also its good to kill things quickly and it does so

[frail sand]

deimos does completely fine in a hoarde

[severe folio]

yeah

[frail sand]

i just mindlessly spam lights

[severe folio]

just not as easeful as illisi

but serviceable in a horde

[soft notch]

I've been using dueling sword 4 lately but have found that I'm getting overwhelmed in melee too easily

I kinda suck with it

[frail sand]

usually with DS u dont want to rely on it for hoarde clear

either staff or blitz or whatever

[severe folio]

if you want to mk4 in a horde you gonna have a limited option of light attack

[soft notch]

ideally not, but usually when team is being overrun

venting skreik helps but doesn't clear everything

[frail sand]

u still can clear a hoarde w/ DS4, its just very exhausting

[soft notch]

especially ragers

[severe folio]

dont let the shriek simp caught you say that

[soft notch]

I keep getting caught offgaurd by surprise packs of them

[severe folio]

i dont think any weapon will help you with that

being caught off guard that is

[frail sand]

i wanted to run a gun psyker w/ venting shriek but the path from crit chance aura to shriek is non existent

[tired knoll]

become a trauma staff enjoyer

[soft notch]

dang 😦

[frail sand]

i currently run devil claw 7 on my surge psyker

[soft notch]

I was hoping Illisi might be the answer

[frail sand]

because i can parry my way out of multiple ragers

on other loadouts with better hoarde clear i run DS

[severe folio]

the answer would be to train your game sense

the bad news is that it will take a while

the good news is that its not a weapon reliant tactic, so any weapon will benefits from it

[frail sand]

yeah, and for pubs u want to bring all-rounder loadouts

[severe folio]

always assume that something is behind you and check your rear often

[frail sand]

especially being able to handle armor and ragers

die enough times and you'll pick up the game sense :3

[fluid knot]

Smoke is right here 100%, build like you're gonna need to be able to clutch against bad odds. Don't try to specialise into one thing too much

[burnt island]

How to fix this?

[fluid knot]

Honestly? Get another one

[severe folio]

its gone

bricked

[burnt island]

FOOK

[fluid knot]

Yup

[severe folio]

its actually bricked since the beginning

[frail sand]

solid brick

[soft notch]

also I'm not loving warp siphon with smite

[severe folio]

that first target is not very good

[frail sand]

i run it, feels pretty nice

i dont rely on it for hoarde clear like bugged smite

[soft notch]

I know its the meta, but I find I'm either CCing with smite and not getting elite kills, or I'm just focusing on hitting elites with voidstrike

[frail sand]

im fine with CCing the whole crowd if it means my teammates get to survive

[soft notch]

in pubs they rarely make use of the CC I find 😆

or im just unlucky

[frail sand]

probably unlucky

[near wyvern]

@soft notch works any way you attack from as long as you connect with the head and have good enough roll, +20 or +25 maniac and warp rider talent (gives +10% damage at 0% peril)

https://streamable.com/3g0cwl

[still hearth]

In pubs they suck

In premade CC from smite is excessive often

Smite sad

But it has the anti horde build which can be neat

[sturdy dagger]

i still use smite in pubs even if it takes 2 full 0-100 peril smites to kill everything

im somehow still doing more than my teams

[soft notch]

seems like a great alternative to my usual DS 😄

[frail sand]

thats the authentic pub experience

[still hearth]

You could probably bring a knife and go melee only and still do more than pubs

[frail sand]

knife is based though

[soft notch]

Yeah ur probably right

I think I just need to swallow my pride and make an assail build 😓

[frail sand]

i dont have any assail loadouts rn

[still hearth]

Do it. Then play with Trauma

[sturdy dagger]

[soft notch]

I do have a nice trauma staff 👀

[sturdy dagger]

i feel like if scoreboard was base game people would actually try a lil more

[near wyvern]

Here is a clip from Auric Maelstrom which had mutant conga lines with dawgs. I usually run knife with this build but conga line only have one good answer.

https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c

[burnt island]

Well there goes like 700k at Brunt's

[frail sand]

rip dub

[burnt island]

and he dumps first target each time.

And the one time he doesn't, my damage is dumped.

Fuck you brunt

[idle bay]

Just 700k eh?

[burnt island]

Best I'm going to get for now. Any improvements?

[frail sand]

is venting shriek gun psyker even a reasonable build

[near wyvern]

Swap both blessings

[frail sand]

the talent tree paths seem a bit limited for that

[burnt island]

To...

[frail sand]

blazing spirit

[severe folio]

its a bug right now that deimos heavy stab knock enemies very easilyright ?

[near wyvern]

@burnt island should be enough for one shot on that H2

Slaughterer+Uncanny unless you running Smite then you can do Unstable Uncanny. If you absolutely want to bring Deflector then Deflector Uncanny.

But I highly recommend Slaughterer+Uncanny

Currently T3 Uncanny and T4 uncanny will both cap at +100% rending so don't be too sad if you don't have T4 for it.

[burnt island]

From 0-30, I've not had a lot of mk IVs so honestly I don't have a lot of blessings to go off of anyways.

[near wyvern]

No idea, it was changed along when they removed infinite dodges and gave the push a longer reach so likely intentional but a bit goofy

[severe folio]

ohhh

thats crazy

[still hearth]

All force swords share blessings

[near wyvern]

All force swords share blessings

[burnt island]

Well force swords in general I mean then. XD

[still hearth]

🥷

[severe folio]

i can turn force sword, devil claw, dueling sword and even combat knife into katana

so far devil claw seem to be the most suitable

[near wyvern]

Mod?

[severe folio]

mod

just slab the dueling sword blade on them lol

you get something serviceable

[sturdy dagger]

So i was about to go and make my first dueling sword and uh

[near wyvern]

Just be careful as FS specifically stated any mods that can be used to get around the cash shop (apply cash shop cosmetics on without paying) is not allowed, even if it only changes the visuals for only you

[vapid lichen]

does killing enemies with warpfire count towards the "restore 7.5% toughness on warp attack" talent

[near wyvern]

Yes, and it's soulblaze

[frail sand]

dayum, 69k...

[sturdy dagger]

thoughts? the perks look a lil meh and i kinda wanna change riposte

[vapid lichen]

cool, ty

[severe folio]

it looks good but perks

and yeah riposte

[frail sand]

that AM looks fun, I should try it with slab shield gun psyker

[sturdy dagger]

reckon i should just save milk mats then?

[severe folio]

save milk mats

[near wyvern]

Nice

[frail sand]

i still remember when the hourglass map had a cursed AF section

[near wyvern]

As long as you have blessings to pick up don't spend milk coins unless you actually get something like 370+ with good stat distribution and perfectly salvageable perks & blessings

Blessings are very hard and expensive to come by with dockets and mats so the moment you see the one you are missing and don't have the bucks you gonna cry your eyes out. Having a 350+ weapon with optimal perks and blessings is better than a 370+ with subpar perks and blessings.

[gloomy magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/аниме-gif-24143783

[idle bay]

But there are days when you can blow like 13000 melk tokens on unusually good weapons and trash weapons but with T4 blessing you were looking for for quite a while...

[fluid knot]

I beleive that the mod doesnt give you access to any skins as in the textures or patterning, only lets you change aspects of the model an to my knowledge, Fatshark have ok'd the one Isces is using

[ornate hamlet]

has anyone found a build where scriers gaze is useful? I cant find a reason to abandon the shield yet

[cosmic sigil]

buy?

[cosmic sigil]

gunpsyker build at least, but i do run mine with shield so...

[idle aurora]

Max i saw was 84 i think

[frail sand]

wtf

okay no more gun psyker for this AM

ran out of ammo lul

[limber tartan]

What gun were you running

[frail sand]

col v

[limber tartan]

Oh

Yea sounds about right

I've been running this for a while now, works great for me

[ripe crater]

Sure.. Tell that to Melk who has NOT ONCE offered me any tier of the Handcannon blessing. Same deal for the Armoury, or any mission reward ever. Nah, the RNG? The RNG.... The RNG! This RNG sentence RNG is RNG less RNG RNG RNG than RNG all RNG the RNG RNG RNG in RNG this RNG game RNG.

[primal blade]

overall i would consider myself a support artillery psyker

telekine shield dome
assail or brainburst( thanks to @frigid zenith opening my mind up to BB again💜 )

Voidstrike staff planning on getting a surge and warp nexus one
Illisi i plan to get a slaughterer uncanny strike combo

for curios i'll be aiming for toughness regenertion and stamina regeneration and maybe ally revive speed but usually i bump into ogryn running revive duty so i might just do dockets

and right now i got Empowered Psionics on my assail build but i might swap to warp siphon (again thanks to whicks opening my mind to it)

[ripe crater]

Why toughness regen on psyker? I keep seeing it recommended. Or picked, rather.

[primal blade]

psyker squishy
toughness regen make psyker less squishy

[near wyvern]

Dumdum Infernus Laspistol with Devil's Claw 4 or Illisi for horde clear. Wait for the horde to come in, pop gaze and go to town with melee. A monstrosity comes in, pop gaze and shoot that fucker.

I highly recommend to take the top modifier which gives bonus finesse damage.

https://youtu.be/fk7aL3DA9Dk

[ripe crater]

There's at least 5 talents that make toughness regen almost useless, giving superior ways to regen toughness that are not affected by toughness regen

[limber tartan]

Yea dumdum is pretty good i want it on a laspistol i just need a good base rolls first

[primal blade]

more toughness regen ain't gonna hurt when you're already solid damage wise

[soft notch]

I usually just go flat toughness

regen is nice if you're consistenly in coherency

but with randos it can be challenging lol

[ripe crater]

And yet I'd opt for Ability regen, sniper/gunner dmg resist and toughnes boost, rather than regen.

[crystal oxide]

Disrupt Destiny is a lot better than the naysayers had me beleive. It allowed me to lock onto the three maulers hiding in a sea of poxwalkers

[fluid knot]

Regen is good on Zealot for a curio roll if you're running Loner and maybe Vet because his tree is currently borked. Psyker an Ogg dont require, or really benifit from it given they already have good regen thats relevant regardless of if they're in coherency or not

[frail sand]

okay i give up trying non surge/smite psyker, i will go full cc for this AM

[limber tartan]

Yea disrupt destiny is the discount executioner's stance but for psyker

[near wyvern]

Because it's the only one of the perks that actually has an impact all the time. Being at 100 toughness means you are not going to take any chip damage to your HP bar, the faster you get there the better.

The only resistance that is not a skill issue is sniper resist cause they can be hard to see through all the VFX and at times they aim through railings and shit which make them hard to detect, not to talk about the target switches. But even for those, you get maybe shot once per three games.

[limber tartan]

Additionally if you can stack it does insane damage

[ripe crater]

Psy has some of the best survivability out there imo, can solo survive like no other and regen toughness like no other.

[ripe crater]

Snipers can still?

I'm actually asking, I'm not sure if 100% toughness protects you from that

In my experience.. it doesn't, but I'm not sure.

[limber tartan]

Nah they deal soo much damage they usually just break through toughness

[fluid knot]

It limits the HP damage you'll take, they just have overspill like Maulers an Crushers do

[crystal oxide]

I toss assails like HIMARS MLRS's and my Vraks Mk7 gets a lot of use picking off elites and shooters I can't be bothered to waste peril on at long range, the stacks are kept up quite reliably!

[ripe crater]

So of course it'll depend on playstyle, but imo Psyker is better off using a talent or two, which they should no matter the build, for toughness regen, and have that curio slot be used on something else.

[limber tartan]

Yea the headhunter is pretty good for gun psyker though i prefer the laspistol due to the speed and ammo efficiency

[crystal oxide]

The mk7 is quite ammo efficient too, and still hits hard enough to 5-6 shot Maulers and flak ragers in the chest

The nekid ragers need one or two more shots though, so I tend to soften them up with a few assail missiles first

[near wyvern]

There are only a couple things that instantly get through your toughness no matter what:

• mauler overheads
• crusher overhead
• plogryn overhead
• plogryn stomp

All those are long telegraphed attacks and very easy to dodge. Sniper shots can be easily dodged with:

• simply sprinting side ways
• dodge
• sprint slide
• dodge slide

Simply manage your positioning when there is a sniper present and don't be a dummy standing near a window / open area before you can deal with them.

[crystal oxide]

Also bombers and flamer fire

[near wyvern]

Sniper shots can be tanked with enough toughness and damage reductions but there is no point for that

[crystal oxide]

We touch a candle of flame and oof

[limber tartan]

The issue with maulers is that they can sneak up upon you in a crowd which is why it would be nice if fatshark actually gave them and crushers any sound cues

[near wyvern]

No, the first tick removes your toughness but doesn't bleed through. If you are caught by the edge of the flame while you sprint or initiate a dodge you will take no HP damage at all.

[ripe crater]

We all know you've at some point been hit by a sniper. I have. And the next person has too. Of course these specific attacks are all easy to dodge. But always on AM and you'll still get hit now n then. Waves of Snipers turns of often enough.

[near wyvern]

Which is why sniper resist is in the A tier

[ripe crater]

I'd love Toughness Regen on a curio, if it affected anything other than coherency toughness regen. Alas it does not.

Curio decisions are always partially personal taste, so lets just leave it at that.

[crystal oxide]

Brunt saw me using bullets too much I guess.

[near wyvern]

My point is, if you are struggling to deal with something, there is nothing wrong with kitting your curios to help you with it, but just know, that you have training wheels on and if you manage to get better in the game, you can give those up to gain even more survivability.

[fluid knot]

Stam is meta. Fite me

[near wyvern]

For one curio yes, for more it's a waste

[ripe crater]

That's why I think Toughness Regen in specific is a waste, as it's so easy for a Psyker to do without those training wheels.

[fluid knot]

I dont agree personally. Usually the times i find myself taking any siginificant damage are ones where stam is low or totally out, otherwise i dont take enough to warrant overbuffing HP/Toughness

[limber tartan]

There is also a lot of ways for psyker to regen toughness from perks

[fluid knot]

Stam regen is also goated as secondary perk

[ripe crater]

With Kinetic Deflection (The block with peril talent) Stam is also very much a training wheel thing.

Specific situations withheld..

[near wyvern]

No, you want your toughness topped up. It's extremely hard to do a zero hit run in Auric Damnation. And once you do get hit, you want back to 100 as soon as you can.

[ripe crater]

Tell that to my frame earned on AM

Sorry, I jest of course. Not getting hit is a Psyker thing, imo.

[near wyvern]

If that would be the case then you wouldn't be debating about curios

[ripe crater]

But you are correct in your own way. I just don't think that is THE MOST important t hing at all times, especially when the difference can be neglible.

[plucky flax]

Just did a maelstrom with an xbox icon psyker using surge staff with 1 perk and no blessing.

[ripe crater]

What do you mean?

[near wyvern]

It's not that negligible I believe I clipped a good example about this but haven't uploaded it yet from my computer

[lunar hollow]

the pubs will improve over time u just gotta believe 🙏

[near wyvern]

If you consistently do zero hit runs then why do you even need HP

Or toughness

[plucky flax]

It was hell. 38 mins long exise vault. Bloody long and hard map.

[primal blade]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a963914-bd36-4177-baee-68ce245a8df3/support-psyker-assail

[ripe crater]

As I said, I jest. I'm not sure if I ever did a zero hit run. But consistently least hp lost, yea.

[near wyvern]

And in case you are talking about zero HP damage runs you would value toughness and toughness gen above everything else

[primal blade]

what i was talkin bout earlier

[lunar hollow]

good lord

matches longer than 30 minutes hurt my soul

[plucky flax]

I only do solo queue so when you get bad teammates it gets really dark and depressing.

[ripe crater]

Pygex all I try to argue is that Toughnes Regen isn't the best for many playstyles and players. If you wish to try to continue to claim it most definitely is then let us stop this.

[fluid knot]

How did he do?

[crystal oxide]

I did not know that force swords had such a powerful stagger ont heir Push attack.

[plucky flax]

1.8k damage taken. Used healing station 6 times. Got downed 7 times and died 4 times.

[ripe crater]

That's pretty good

[lunar hollow]

i know the pain

[ripe crater]

For a peasant.

[fluid knot]

Awh bless him, he'll learn

[lunar hollow]

ive seen some real shitters recently

https://streamable.com/sieobv

i enjoy the bad teammates

they do really funny stuff

[plucky flax]

Tbf he did 397k damage I'm like bruh.

Must be ep bug.

[ripe crater]

Whole reason he deployed that setup probably

to test

[plucky flax]

It'd help him to have blessings on his staff tho.

Anything. t2 or t3. Xd

[lunar hollow]

that psyker had purg so i think he felt like a spiritual connection to the flames on the floor

[plucky flax]

Man literally brought a green staff to maelstrom.

[ripe crater]

My first few surge matches I used a blue surge staff. Then I was convinced. Now my highest rated weapon is a surge staff.

on AM

I used a non lvl 30 blue one too

[plucky flax]

Anyway I was playing stealth zealot so I managed to do a lot of solo stuff. Don't think I could have pulled it off without loner stealth.

[fluid knot]

In all honesty you really can get away with that (obviously not if you're playing like he was tho)

[ripe crater]

Not trying to excuse the peasant for trying to enjoy a game on their peasant machine and thereby dare to influence PCMasterRace....

[crystal oxide]

I feel like the folk that say brunt never given them good staves are going to hate me

[fluid knot]

I did a few games with a basic chainsword on Vet when trying to get one to mess with in P13

[crystal oxide]

I now have high 70+s staves of all three types.

[ripe crater]

There's 4 staves

[lunar hollow]

voidstrike isnt real it cant hurt u

[crystal oxide]

Checks again

Okay got a purgatus in the high 70's too

[ripe crater]

😄

[crystal oxide]

I just only started Psyker two days back lmao

[plucky flax]

Most dangerous xbox psyker set up.

[near wyvern]

Smite is made for controllers change my mind 😂

[royal ibex]

so howd hadron do

[thin plover]

I'm currently leveling psyker, what is the best blitz at the moment? Assail wrecks anything small, but anything with armor is a bitch

[royal ibex]

assails good for hordes, thats when you use your staff for anything bigger

[ripe crater]

assail + void is really simple and effective

[near wyvern]

Unarmoured into +25 maniac and shred into uncanny strike and this pairs nicely with Smite builds.

[thin plover]

Ah, voidstrike staff. Was running the flame staff, but i felt useless

[royal ibex]

hmm

[primal blade]

well i would recommend
[https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a963914-bd36-4177-baee-68ce245a8df3/support-psyker-assail]
[https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a963d40-f13f-4781-a07e-70bb7b205192/support-psyker-brain-burst]

[ripe crater]

At lvl 30 it makes more sense, with the right stats and build

[thin plover]

And for the sword, the illisi pseudo power sword right?

[ripe crater]

If you use assail, deimos might be better

illisi is more anti horde, deimos has powerful pokes

[indigo solar]

assail go brrrrr

[royal ibex]

thats good for hordes, if you want somethign for single target run deimos

[thin plover]

Thanks man

[crystal oxide]

Deimos still has the strongest heavy warp attack of all the marks right?

[primal blade]

Deimos is strong
Illisi is fast

both can rip and tear until it is done

[fluid knot]

So is Assail mate

[plucky flax]

Zealot keystones are so good mane. I can use momentum or martyrdom both are super strong.

[left mirage]

this worth a pickup?

[near wyvern]

Pls don't usd the special on Deimos. L1H2 deals more DPS and is a lot safer cause it doesn't animation lock you.

[left mirage]

idk if the perks are worth it

[near wyvern]

Very true

[fluid knot]

Piety is too, they did a really good job with making nearly all of Zealot's kit viable

[left mirage]

only time i use it is on muties

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's great too although my fav weapon is combat axe so I don't really use peity as much.

I do use it on my bleed knife build but even so I think with momentum or martyrdom it'd be stronger.

[left mirage]

zeal has the best keystones / skill tree setup tbh

ogryn and psyker both have a dud keystone

vet just has whatever vomit its stuck with

[plucky flax]

The ogryn lucky bullet keystone is

[near wyvern]

Pls no you are going it wrong
https://streamable.com/3g0cwl

Damn that expired

[left mirage]

says its archived

[fluid knot]

Good on Stubbers, bad on everything else

Achlys stubber, tho inaccurate as all fuck, has good crit chains which is helpful for LB

[plucky flax]

How often do you shoot stubber tho? is it worth it over the super tanky keystone or heavy spam keystone?

[near wyvern]

@left mirage the point is with +20 maniac and warp rider talent (gives +10% damage at 0% peril) you can one shot a mutant with just the H2 even though the back as long as you connect with the head

[plucky flax]

Idk I can't play as ogryn with just spamming stubber.

RIP team's ammo.

[left mirage]

ah, ok

[frail sand]

whew this AM is a bit spicy

[left mirage]

didnt know the breakpoints, ill give it a whirl

[frail sand]

I should've brought dome

[near wyvern]

This one still plays?
#psyker-class message

[fluid knot]

Depends, if im spec'd to run Stubber, quite a lot, but there is enough supporting stuff in the tree to still be competant in melee, just start at the top left on the Skullbreaker side, take Batter an then work over to LB, also lets you pick up Dominate which is super strong

[sturdy dagger]

brunt please why are u like this

[left mirage]

ye it does, ty

[soft notch]

what mod makes your UI like this?

[plucky flax]

Wot is dominate?

[sturdy dagger]

2d inventory

[fluid knot]

Rending on Elite kills

[soft notch]

Thanks!

[jolly cedar]

Best gun to use alongside scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny?

[plucky flax]

Ah yeah. It's strong but I never have enough points to go for it.

[sturdy dagger]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/188

[plucky flax]

[amber nest]

Worth buying?

[sturdy dagger]

ive been using the revolver but ive seen the new buffed colomnus infatry autogun going around

[amber nest]

Quell speed is crap, the rest is pretty darn good

[jolly cedar]

hmm. columnus infantry only seems to be good on vet tbh

since the faster they shoot the faster they apply their onslaught armor reduction stacks

[near wyvern]

Dumdum Infernus Laspistol, take the improved finesse upgrade (top one) for gaze
https://youtu.be/fk7aL3DA9Dk

[jolly cedar]

thanks

[sturdy dagger]

there what

[jolly cedar]

this looks good

[jolly cedar]

their talent

right side

it applies brittleness

per shot

[frail sand]

okay 83k AM

need to win that now

[sturdy dagger]

oooooooooooooooooooh so thats why my dmg numbers where ramping

[sturdy dagger]

how does the laz pistol fair against armoured targets? ive been using my revolver as anti crusher for now since i dont have good uncanny stick

[jolly cedar]

Yes

that talent is a must stake for every automatic weapon on vet

20% brittleness is significantly stronger than 10% rending

[plucky flax]

It's 40% at max stacks.

[jolly cedar]

wow

didnt even notice

no wonder

40%

yeah thats cracked

[plucky flax]

Also if you use the melee bleed talent the bleed tick also increase brittleness.

So it's good to take both for melee vet build.

[jolly cedar]

thats like a last whisper from league

[visual adder]

Hey Joe

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/installing-league-of-legends-fat-downloading-gif-25813085

[glossy ember]

oh does that mod work again

[jolly cedar]

Vote for me next election please

[glossy ember]

couldn't get it to work

[plucky flax]

Always worked for me.

[sturdy dagger]

there all bad

[jolly cedar]

are there any guns that can inflict bleed?

[plucky flax]

No I'm afraid.

[visual adder]

Flechette guns

[plucky flax]

But if you use laspistol the burn from infernus also tick up brittleness from onslaught.

[jolly cedar]

In that case i guess bleed grenade isnt completely useless

[spice oar]

Shotguns

[jolly cedar]

yeah ive noticed with my vld recon

[visual adder]

Be afraid you are wrong

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah shotgun but I normally use no respite full bore on shotgun.

[jolly cedar]

i still dont understand why the hell shotguns dont tear through carapace armor like the boltgun

Both shotguns and boltguns take years to reload

are clunky as hell

[spice oar]

With the lacerate blessing it applies bleed stacks

[jolly cedar]

bot for some reason boltgun just chews through carapace while shotgun lags behind barely even dealing with flak

[plucky flax]

Is bleed on shotgun good and what for? Horde clear I guess?

[fluid knot]

Its not good on Shotguns no

Not that it doesnt do enough damage, its that its tied to crits an there are just way better options

[spice oar]

Because they have their own roles, with shotguns being more horde - clear/shooter killers that you can use quite often (especially with speedloader) and the bolter is a anti armor long range to mid range weapon meant for blowing up elites and beasts of nurgle

[obtuse walrus]

[jolly cedar]

boltguns clear hordes just fine

and much faster than shotguns

hold left click

and for those sweet 2 seconds of auto fire

you become death incarnate

[spice oar]

Then use the bolter 🤷

[jolly cedar]

psykers dont have access to boltguns

[spice oar]

I thought we were talking about vet? You mentioned their grenades and talent tree?

And psykers don't have access to shotguns either, only once in the beta

[jolly cedar]

No one uses boltgun or shotgun in auric maelstrom

its either Columnus infantry or Plasma

those are the two options

maybe revolver if youre feeling spicy

[spice oar]

Why are we talking about this then????

[jolly cedar]

You started it? 🤷

[spice oar]

You were the one asking if guns apply bleed? And then went on about how shotguns suck cause they don't go through carapace like a bolter?

[primal blade]

keepers or nah ?

at least until i see what hadrons gives me <_<

[fluid knot]

Wat? There are a lot more options than just those three

[jolly cedar]

Not if u want to be as effective as possible

[fluid knot]

Laspistol, any Lasgun, Hellbores, both Agri and Kantreal shotguns work fine

[jolly cedar]

nah

try competing against plasmagun

[fluid knot]

Uhh yeah....

[jolly cedar]

against 5 waves of crushers

[chilly cobalt]

Im out of the loop is illisi still good

[fluid knot]

Thats a single scenario, try competing at mass shooter removal using a plasma vs a lasgun

Try competing on boss damage with plasma vs Laspistol

[jolly cedar]

that single scenario is the most dangerous scenario in all of auric maelstrom

[fluid knot]

Neither will happen

[jolly cedar]

when the crushers come in

and the specials start spawning behind u

[fluid knot]

Lol

[jolly cedar]

that is the only scenario

that matters lol

[fluid knot]

Crushers are not threatening imo

They're slow, easy to manuver around and fucking stupidly predictable

[jolly cedar]

i doubt they are in malice lol

[sturdy dagger]

i agree with the wizard tbh

[jolly cedar]

u have no room to move in the difficult auric maelstrom missions

[vapid lichen]

i haven't been playing for that long but to me it feels like crushers are there to force you out of a position and/or kill you if you fuck up

[jolly cedar]

the scab modifier makes it so that the vast majority of mobs u face are maulers and crushers

[fluid knot]

Ahhh we're at that point in the conversation i see Fwiw, i only play Auric Maelstrom, but nice you go straight to the "oH yOu mUsT oNlY pLaY mAliCe!!!!! REEEE!" level of responses

[sturdy dagger]

every player with hands has a tool to just insta kill maulers tbh

[jolly cedar]

u know im right lol

so just close ur mouth and sit down

[sturdy dagger]

yikes

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. you're not

[jolly cedar]

its the only sensible thing you can do

[jolly cedar]

cope harder

[sturdy dagger]

blind ignorance we love it

[fluid knot]

If you're struggling with Crushers that badly, you're the one with a skill issue

[spice oar]

OK "Joe Bidens breast milk"

[jolly cedar]

if ur struggling to come up with a good response then theres really no reason u should be talking

[primal blade]

well could have been worse >^>

[plucky flax]

Scab melee maelstrom? Time to bring the blaze trauma.

[fluid knot]

Mhmm, i have enough hours to just laugh at you about this, but please carry on

[plucky flax]

Crushers where?

[jolly cedar]

post screenshot

or ur lying to cope

[plucky flax]

[jolly cedar]

yeah

thats what i thought

[fluid knot]

:3 Ok pal, you keep talking

[spice oar]

Slide 8

[primal blade]

the 499 has surge which is what i kinda want on my final staff

But the perks and second blessing is.. yea

[plucky flax]

How many hours do you have mr biden?

[jolly cedar]

thats nothing

[plucky flax]

Damn you have more than me.

[fluid knot]

Still have to work ontop, such is the life of a single bloke

[vapid lichen]

you could always just feed the surge blessing to hadron for a better void

[fluid knot]

Ahh so you've shop camped for 2k hours, good for you

[jolly cedar]

buddy

u know im right

we both know im far more experienced than u

and that uve lost in every way conceivable

[fluid knot]

Then keep struggling with Crushers, makes no odds to me

[jolly cedar]

stop making a fool out of urself

[spice oar]

Well this explains everything, his brain just decomposed from staring at his screen for 20hrs a day rather than doing anything

[plucky flax]

Can you post your true level characters selection?

[primal blade]

thats what i will probably do

[plucky flax]

I want to see the sick over 1000+.

[fluid knot]

If you feel like you need to play Meta all the time to remain competative, that uhhh... thats a skill issue pal 😉

[sturdy dagger]

he says as every user in chat clowns on him lmfao

[jolly cedar]

i got more hours than all of u combined

what more needs to be said lol

[sturdy dagger]

and yet more skill issues?

[jolly cedar]

Im Joe Biden bitch

[sturdy dagger]

impressive

[jolly cedar]

u dont even play auric maelstrom

why are u talking

[sturdy dagger]

its like that one league player

with like

18 million mastery points

[jolly cedar]

the adults have finished their discussion

[royal ibex]

what in the world did i come back to

[jolly cedar]

go back to bed kiddy

[sturdy dagger]

whos bronze

[glossy ember]

just realized you can hold the rmb charge at 100% and not explode so long as you don't release it

neat

[royal ibex]

'3.3k hours in darktide' i cant believe they had the launcher open for 3k of that

[fluid knot]

Holy shit does it count with having the launcher open?!

[glossy ember]

yeah

[fluid knot]

Oh wow, i gotta start artificially increasing my playtime so i can act holier than thou on discord

[glossy ember]

nah here

lemme show you an easy trick

3341 hours

[royal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-genius-math-mega-brain-tek-gif-27194141

[sturdy dagger]

wait the best part

3k hours

35/36 achievements

my brother in christ how

[glossy ember]

achievement hunting is for nerds

[royal ibex]

im still 35/36. i keep playing damnation so im not getting the 100 games no downs anytime soon

[fluid knot]

They literally just happen from playing the game, there is no way you reach 3k hours without getting them all

[glossy ember]

i'm missing all of these still

[near wyvern]

Not that optimal against armour, so either run anti-armour melee and smite for hordes or anti horde melee and BB to have some way of dealing damage to armour.

[sturdy dagger]

i literally just got the worst achievement

after making fun of so many xbox psykers for constantly exploding

kinetic deflection go fuck yourself

[royal ibex]

i got that a while back, when it was 3 for the penance totally bya ccident

saw a bunch of shotgunners and went 'lmao lets go'

[fluid knot]

I am both proud and ashamed i got that one when it was 4 elites, during my initial level up grind

[royal ibex]

oh was 4?

[sturdy dagger]

just like

[fluid knot]

On accident too

[sturdy dagger]

make a path so i can get disrupt destiny without fucking kinetic

[royal ibex]

i dont think anyone has gottent hat by trying

[fluid knot]

Oh nah, but it was comical the way it happened, was trying to brainburst maulers that had just downed a vet an blew myself up, killed all the maulers an allowed him to be res'd

[royal ibex]

still find it funny getting 100 games no downs is more common than every class to 30

[sturdy dagger]

need a talent that makes the explosion happen faster and make it like

the goal

u dont get a wound from it or something, that might be busted but u get what im sayin

[royal ibex]

'6% for 100 games, 5.2% for every class'

[fluid knot]

Exploding from Perils should spawn a boss in a small demonic incursion

Make the games interesting

[royal ibex]

make it spawn a weakened daemonhost

itl be fun

[fluid knot]

Not exploitable, not even remotely

[jolly cedar]

Dont play Ogryn that much

and if i do i never use bull rush

[frail sand]

[glossy ember]

people usually are fine with one or two chars

[desert mirage]

does it say when the store rotates the outfits?

[fluid knot]

Nah, its every two week tho

So, like a week an a half from now it'll rotate again

[royal ibex]

iirc someone said it only shows during the last day when its about to rotate out

[potent echo]

its stated in the shop i think

oh

[royal ibex]

because fuck it, fomo sells

[desert mirage]

had some spare game dosh and got some leathers for my new psyker

[potent echo]

also makes me hold on to my fake money, instead of spending

want to see what comes next

[glossy ember]

do movement speed auras stack

gonna go fast af

[royal ibex]

god i wish.

[glossy ember]

no.......

[royal ibex]

auras dont stack

[glossy ember]

terrible

awful game

[frail sand]

[frail sand]

latex outfit when

[desert mirage]

[royal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[frail sand]

wait not even survivalist?

[jolly cedar]

Survivalist is kinda trash tbh

The only games I lose are the ones where the vets take survivalist

[royal ibex]

Lmao what.

[frail sand]

sounds like a skill issue

[royal ibex]

Also yeah I ran with 2 survivalists with a shotgun with 100 total ammo. Only ever got 1 shell

[potent echo]

it doesnt stack yea

[jolly cedar]

Its a completely useless aura

[frail sand]

losing to survivalist because 5% movement speed aura too good

[jolly cedar]

vets who take it deal no damage

and end up being emotional baggage for the remaining 30 minutes of the game once they run out of ammo

[royal ibex]

This has to be bait

[fluid knot]

Its literally the strongest Aura in the game

[jolly cedar]

?

[sturdy dagger]

this guy just left before letting me clutch wtf

[jolly cedar]

nah

[sturdy dagger]

were still going fine

[jolly cedar]

its actual dogshit

[fluid knot]

Only comparable one is Loner

[frail sand]

see username

[jolly cedar]

loner is good

if i could i would run loner on all my characters

[royal ibex]

Ah Loner. The sign that you can bully the user guilt free

[jolly cedar]

Sometimes there are too many vets on the team

so ill yeet 1 or 2 of them over the ledge with a barrel

i cant afford to feed all the baby birds

all of them are screaming for ammo

not enough to go arround

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. sadly people are mongs an dont realise that its for if you have to clutch. It most certainly doesnt give you the ability to play the entire level on your own away from the team

[potent echo]

even then you would want an actual aura

[royal ibex]

I've had 1 case of someone using it and them being competent. That's it lmao

[jolly cedar]

?

No its so that knife zealots can speed run missions

[fluid knot]

Nah, no other Aura is relevant if everyone else is dead

[jolly cedar]

its the best aura for that reason

[fluid knot]

💩

[potent echo]

you can get toughness back in other ways

[royal ibex]

Here's a team based game with a mechanic that encourages sticking together. Anyway heres one aura that ignores that entire idea

[fluid knot]

Sure you can, but its free regen when you otherwise wouldnt have, it can make a huge difference if you have to shoulder the weight of a garbo team

[jolly cedar]

Couldnt have said it better myself

teams are usually garbage

you are the only one that matters

[vapid lichen]

i played a game the other day that had three loner zealots on the team

[jolly cedar]

3x Goats

[vapid lichen]

we wiped to the first swarm

[jolly cedar]

U should have supported them better

[vapid lichen]

true and real

[fluid knot]

It still encourages sticking together, like i said, people interpret it very poorly, and use it very poorly. If you need to disengage to kill a bomber or summat, its goated, if you need to carry its goated. If the user is lacking braincells an tries to be alone the whole game, then the director will make them eat shit

[potent echo]

yea but also here are some specialists that punishes you for sticking together, also plasteel is all the way on the other side of the map

[royal ibex]

Games whack like that.

Still not gonna trust any loner users

[jolly cedar]

Only the best players use that aura

if ur not good enough to use it

[royal ibex]

Too many cases of seeing them absolutely flop

[fluid knot]

Don't trust anyone in pugs, period

[potent echo]

i dont even really pay attention to my team's loadout

[jolly cedar]

i implore u to not insult the actually good players in this game

theyre carrying you

[frail sand]

i dont even trust myself

[jolly cedar]

dont make their life any harder than it already is

[potent echo]

no matter what they arent gonna do more damage than me somehow

[royal ibex]

If I ever see them I'll be sure to thank them. Till then I'm watching knife loners run ahead then dying to a hound pouncing them and gunners dropping them

[jolly cedar]

https://media.giphy.com/media/cfUMNY4RfGhEc/giphy.gif

[jolly cedar]

u should be there to support them

everyone dies to hounds and trappers

its part of the game

even if ur as good as me

and u have 3k hours under ur belt

one hound is all it takes

[fluid knot]

If someone has managed to get two rooms ahead an then get dogged, im not gonna compromise the rest of the team going to save them. Just let them die

[royal ibex]

My brother in christ I am dealing with the horde and 3 maulers that rocked up with the rest of the team

[jolly cedar]

its worth the risk

the fact theyre running loner

[fluid knot]

Its not

[potent echo]

somehow i notice that enemies dont really attack a hounded person anymore

[jolly cedar]

and that they have the confidence to go two rooms ahead alone

[fluid knot]

Which is a bit lame imo

[potent echo]

they just stand around and cheer the dog

[jolly cedar]

means that theyre a god tier player

its worth letting the whole team die

as long as u can res the loner zealot

[potent echo]

i mean i like it because i dont just immediately die

[jolly cedar]

they will carry

trust

[fluid knot]

Confidence is often synonymous with stupidity, sadly

[potent echo]

i also hate it because i get so much purple lmao

[plucky flax]

I run loner I guess I got Mr bidens approval.

[jolly cedar]

Its the other way around bucko

[fluid knot]

Mhhmmm, you keep telling yourself that

[jolly cedar]

Imo there shouldnt be auras

everyone should just regenerate toughness naturally

forcing people to stick together is stupid anyways

the team will just weigh u down if u have real skill

[jolly cedar]

Yes

Being selfish has and always will be the way to win in tide games

[plucky flax]

Can you post your character selection? Since we have comparable hours I wanna see the levels.

[jolly cedar]

u know this guy?

[fluid knot]

I dont have True Level installed pal 😢

[plucky flax]

No

[fluid knot]

Gimmie a min, will install

It would seem i downloaded it an never actually installed the file

[plucky flax]

It's okay no need if you don't want to.

[jolly cedar]

I think this man has the most hours in darktide currently

[fluid knot]

Nah you're good, i been meaning to get round to it, evidently, or i wouldnt have the file on the system

[jolly cedar]

@ivory wharf This you big man?

[gilded magnet]

ain't regicide wh40k chess

[fluid knot]

@plucky flax Im actually pretty surprised by this, woulda thought i had way more on Ogg given i started with him, but apparently not

Other than that, classes are sat in age order vs level

[plucky flax]

Zealot main

[fluid knot]

It would appear so

Its as much of a surprise to me as it is to you

[plucky flax]

Well I have most levels with zealot too.

[fluid knot]

Zealot main

[jolly cedar]

There should be friendly fire in this game tbh

teamkilling would make maelstrom a lot more bearable

[plucky flax]

Zealot combat axe is too comfy.

[jolly cedar]

too many players taking valuable ammo and then dying with it on them

[wintry idol]

Is there a build that doesn’t involve being a support that’s all I see

[jolly cedar]

should make it so teamkilling someone will transfer all their ammo to you

[modern tusk]

Used Assail for the first time in over 100 levels of psyker, first gme all the teammates complained about it and left

Im going back to support psyker

[fluid knot]

Honestly never really vibed with C'axes, that being said dont much like Tac'Axes either

These days hard pushed to put Crusher down

The biggus bonkus is too fun

[wintry idol]

Fuck that can I see the assail build?

[primal blade]

@wintry idol no because every other player besides the ogryns hates any other build that isn't support psyker

the one by nondo is decent

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5bb8a6-6593-4e77-8f40-a4cbc6e2bb70/psyker-assail-crit-build-t5

[fading iris]

zealot is for hammer time

[fluid knot]

Not true, i love a good psyker player, less so those that abuse bugs tho

[plucky flax]

It's the most versatile melee weapon for me. With bm and headtaker I can deal with all threats.

[summer prairie]

staff lmb weakspot crits can hit for over 1400 with 30 DD stacks or twice that with surge

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah, they got a great set of blessings and damage profiles for sure, no denying they're really strong weapons

[fading iris]

I`m using the realasianrobot build on my psyker, for me is very noice, and is a no bug build

[plucky flax]

Tactical axe tho is poopoo

[fluid knot]

Honestly havent tried them in this patch so cant comment, but certainly not heard anything good about them

[modern tusk]

Most fun weapon is the knife imo

Its funny running around like a 90's horror villian

[jolly cedar]

Obscurus is still the best weapon in the game

always has been and most likely will be until hard nerf

[fluid knot]

Vet Shovel for me, super combo-centric

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-voisin-drole-cry-creepy-gif-20529271

[fluid knot]

Also, funny "Plunk!" noise when you smash a heretic over the head

[plucky flax]

Same actually last time I played tac axe was probably last year. It has same dodge as combat axe but way less damage.

[fluid knot]

Oh really? Thats fuckin goofy. Would expect it to have better dodges o.O

Whats that cap out at then 3 or 4?

[plucky flax]

5 dodges, longer dodge but yeah not worth it.

Just play knife for long dodge weapon.

[fluid knot]

Aye, Knive can be useful with that

Bit of a surprise its 5 on C'axe tho

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's actually a really nimble weapon.

You can dive shooters super easily.

I don't use heavy sword that much anymore even.

[fading iris]

You don't need to dodge if every mob is dead... and you because you forgot to quell

[fluid knot]

Never really vibed with that either tbh Catachan Sword my beloved 🙏

[fading iris]

Katana update when

or Power Fists

[desert mirage]

does anyone have a "starting off" psyker build to work towards

[plucky flax]

Easiest is assail.

Idk what sort of weapons do you want to play?

[knotty brook]

Is there an AOE force sword?

[kind jay]

illisi

[ivory wharf]

Alas no fella

[knotty brook]

Thx

[jolly cedar]

Dont lie to me

Speak the truth

The emperor demands it

[ivory wharf]

Sorry to tell ya but I’m a pc game pass user

[jolly cedar]

@raven tusk Perhaps you are the one chosen by the Gods

[sturdy dagger]

[orchid nest]

what are you using here?

[sturdy dagger]

put on uncanny and flak dmg ig?

[summer prairie]

it was bugged rampage and 30 stacks of dd

and gaze I guess

[orchid nest]

ahhh alright

[glossy ember]

[rotund dagger]

Warp Flurry 2

[glossy ember]

serviceable

[radiant lance]

Pretty sure Psyker is current best class ngl

[bold maple]

nah roll a better sword

375+ base rating

[visual adder]

Guys

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[visual adder]

Guys I made borgor

[sturdy dagger]

[frail sand]

cromch ur borgor

[sturdy dagger]

atleast i have tier 4 shred now ig

[visual adder]

NOOOOOO

[rotund dagger]

Blows up Burger with mind

[visual adder]

[frail sand]

dammit now i want borgor too

[rigid rune]

smite borgar

[visual adder]

[visual adder]

[frail sand]

does ur borgor make peril go boom

[visual adder]

Ye

[bold maple]

ig shred and uncanny strike is best on duelling swords

riposte is nice too if it stack with shred

[ripe crater]

As a self proclaimed foodie, this offends me. Where to start? I don't see any sauce or veggies. The buns are plain. But possibly the worst affront? The cheese... is on the bottom of the burger... and isn't melted 🥺
On a more serious note, this makes me hungry AF. But do think twice before eating this much starch based products, all those potatoes and all that bread is mostly just gonna turn into sugar. The most healthy portion of this meal is in fact the meat 🙂

[visual adder]

I am trying to gain weight so

Also cheese was melted just couldn’t tell

Buns were a bit dry but oh well

And borgor had spicy sauce

[sturdy dagger]

why use illsi for horde clear if we can just slap on a bm axe?

[glossy ember]

tell me more

[sturdy dagger]

idk what else 2 say

[glossy ember]

well

idk

[sturdy dagger]

idk

[glossy ember]

like how it be cleaving

and shit

[sturdy dagger]

well yeah

[glossy ember]

what da combos

and which axe

[sturdy dagger]

i can use th active and a mix of heavies and lights on illsi or i can just mindlessly spam bm axe with headtaker?

[fading iris]

This is the game toying of player's OCD

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/axe-lotr-gif-5532799

[ruby ravine]

Anyone recommend a good build? I seem so squishy compared to other psykers

[glossy ember]

[left mirage]

how the fuck do you gunpsyker

[glossy ember]

axes that I have on hand

[left mirage]

scrier's gaze + warp charges isnt quite it

[fading iris]

those two will help you with the squishyness

[left mirage]

but disrupt destiny is so ass

[ruby ravine]

I already have those, I mean like a rager can 1 shot me from full hp full toughness

[glossy ember]

what weapons you running

some have an easier time with rager than others

[sturdy dagger]

i genuinly cant imagine using an axe without BM

[young meteor]

Put as many points into toughness as you can too

[sturdy dagger]

and i cant imagine using a tac axe at all

[fading iris]

when, then you need to check your curios for protection and more caution depending of what you are running

[young meteor]

Not the curio, the toughness nodes

[sturdy dagger]

id love it if i wasnt forced to take kinetic

[fading iris]

oh yeah, the nodes too

[ruby ravine]

On curious what’s the main stat I want?

[visual adder]

Gun

[ruby ravine]

And how high do they go? Best I’ve seen is 21%

[left mirage]

i think hp/tough is up to 22%?

[fading iris]

for max hp 21% is the max

[young meteor]

17%*3=51%

[left mirage]

ah, so 21% is cap nvm

[young meteor]

But thats without the bonus toughness you can get on curio

[fading iris]

and here to check the stats you can get and their caps https://darktide.gameslantern.com/curios

[young meteor]

Technically it can go up to 22 % (17+5) tufness

[digital narwhal]

Nuh uh.

[sturdy dagger]

i already told em pal

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[ruby ravine]

Is it possible to get more than +1 wound? Sorry not Psyker relevant. Just on topic lol

[sturdy dagger]

yes

[fading iris]

nope

[digital narwhal]

+1 Wound is the maximum benefit a Curio can give you

[young meteor]

Nu-uh

[digital narwhal]

Which is dumb

[sturdy dagger]

what

what freak in zealot chat told me otherwise

[fading iris]

on a single curio 1 wound is max, ofc you can get 3 curios with 1 wound, thus making 3

[digital narwhal]

They're Zealots, they're not known for their smarts

[sturdy dagger]

ive been looking for nothing

[visual adder]

It’s zealot chat you can’t trust it

[fluid knot]

Simply click on heads sah

[visual adder]

Speaking as a zealot chatter

[digital narwhal]

Everyone knows Spark'eads and Bone'eads are the smarterest

[visual adder]

We’re full of shit

[fading iris]

I linked the curios page with all the info you need

[digital narwhal]

Shouty though? Nuh uh

Shouty stoopid

[left mirage]

tried it and it didnt feel much different from a vet

[fluid knot]

Rude.

[left mirage]

just felt like a sidegrade/ downgrade arguably

[digital narwhal]

Shut it, Shouty

[sturdy dagger]

u realize ur actually zealot psyker

and let the voices in

[visual adder]

Don’t be rude Grond I’m gonna tell the emprah

[fluid knot]

[digital narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1122092484978290738/dtdontcare.gif

[visual adder]

[sturdy dagger]

idk man i kinda just threw together a build and it feels incredible, just nuking everything

[left mirage]

send pls

[fading iris]

just a scratch, it will buf it out

[sturdy dagger]

granted im using alot of assail scriars, my gun is revolver made to unspawn crushers

[digital narwhal]

Assail + Revvy Psyker with Scrier's is fun

[fluid knot]

Sidegrade sure, thats the intent, its not menna be way better or worse than a stave build. Basically you're trading long term consistent damage for upfront alpha damage

[sturdy dagger]

revvy huh? i only tried illis and bm axe so far

[digital narwhal]

Revvy = Revolver

[fluid knot]

Also, broken

[fading iris]

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only broken

But the Emperor Protects

[visual adder]

I know your secrets Avery

[sturdy dagger]

again fair warning i just threw this together but its been doing bits on damnation

[digital narwhal]

Hm?

[visual adder]

I know

[digital narwhal]

Okay?

It's not like my name is hidden or anything

[visual adder]

That’s not the secret I know smh my head

[fading iris]

you name is hidden... between your name and your name

[digital narwhal]

?

[visual adder]

If I says it then it’s not a secret

You need to catch up

[digital narwhal]

k

[visual adder]

Geez

[fading iris]

The secret is that there is no secret, thus making a secret secret!

Insert Inception's Bwaaaah here

[modern tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-genius-math-mega-brain-tek-gif-27194141

[visual adder]

https://tenor.com/view/inception-kukkendare-dicaprio-hesitant-gif-16057756

[steel flame]

uh

can anyone tell me the difference between fire frenzy and death spitter on autoguns.......

[visual adder]

No

[modern tusk]

No

[fading iris]

the name!

Glad I could help

[steel flame]

they look like the same blessing except one is just worse XP

[still hearth]

Dodge node isn't working still afaik

[sturdy dagger]

anticipation?

[still hearth]

One is damage and one is power

[sturdy dagger]

off it goes

[steel flame]

.......

fuck you and your power fatshark

[still hearth]

Or something idk

[still hearth]

The +50% dodge duration doesn't do anything yeah. The +1 dodge part does work afaik

Very fun

I would also take CDR aura instead

Since its still 17.5%

More uptime on Scrier

[digital narwhal]

Deathspitter gives +Power and Fire Frenzy gives +Close Range Damage

[still hearth]

And try to get Psykinetic Aura if possible

Ah nvm

Assail

[digital narwhal]

Psykinetic Aura is so free and so goddamn strong.
I can't live without it.

[sturdy dagger]

but muh crits...

thank GOD i have the mod that just lets me swap the aura instead of taking the skilltree pack 2 that point

[sturdy dagger]

[still hearth]

CDR aura is too good rn sadly

Once it's nerfed we'll see

[steel flame]

eh, i like crits

3 seconds off my ult is meh

[still hearth]

Crits are overrated

You mean 5.6s

[steel flame]

you take that back

[still hearth]

Foe everyone

Or more

[steel flame]

thats not now math works

[still hearth]

That's how CDR aura workw

[digital narwhal]

I mean, if anything, Zealot CDR should be nerfed by Psykinetic's Aura.
Cooldowns are merely a suggestion for Zealots right now.

[still hearth]

It's 17.5%

Not 10%

Enjoy

[steel flame]

goddam fatshark

[still hearth]

Yep

The fukked it

[steel flame]

WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT MATH

[digital narwhal]

Wait

you didn't mean Psykinetic's

you meant Seer's

[still hearth]

It doesn't remove the base 7.5%

[digital narwhal]

I'm dumb

[fading iris]

how many talents are broken right now?

[still hearth]

It adds 10% to it

Many

Maybe 10-20%

Across all classes

[fading iris]

everytime I glance, there is some broken talent that I didn't knew

[steel flame]

i swear to god, its like fatshark has NEVER made another game before this one

[copper jay]

wtf disrupt destiny don't mark poxwalker and groaner its so shit

[still hearth]

Ye

Enjoy

[steel flame]

na dd is great

if you play super aggressive

the speed boost alone

damage is just icing on the cake

[digital narwhal]

DD needs a fat rework

like

yesterday

[still hearth]

It just needs to actually show when it marks things

[digital narwhal]

It only bugs out in that regard on Bruisers, right?

[still hearth]

I think so. Those are the ones I have noticed

[fading iris]

I don't even know what DD is

[still hearth]

You can manipulate it though

[digital narwhal]

Disrupt Destiny

Right side Keystone

[still hearth]

So it's not unplayable

[copper jay]

its worded like it would mark any mobs but it don't mark some mobs like the description is stay up lie like pinning fire (at least this one work)

[sturdy dagger]

idk if it already does but should make it visible 2 teammates so hopefully they have the iq to just leave that one mob

[steel flame]

im convinced that when it swaps targets that the things it swaps off of still counts as marked

[digital narwhal]

Ye Ye, but it's fuckin' annoying

[fading iris]

oh boy

[still hearth]

Bake in DD inti Scrier

Give new keystone

[digital narwhal]

I do think it should be able to mark 3 enemies at once though, to reduce potential tunnel visioning.

[still hearth]

Not based

[digital narwhal]

With priority on Elites.

[still hearth]

On killing shit

Thanks

[fading iris]

so we have a working keystone, one broken and one that needs a rework

[still hearth]

DD can be super good in the right conditions

But it's just awkward

[desert mirage]

Is assail any good?

[digital narwhal]

I mean, Warp Siphon and EP both work fine

It's just Surge Staff that's broken in regards to it's interaction with it.

[still hearth]

And BR needs love

And Smite LMB needs

Something

[digital narwhal]

It truly does

[glossy ember]

any idea why some HISTG missions spawn a lot less enemies than others

[copper jay]

that why i hate these 2 last patch even throug the class rework is fun more than half of it don't work or is broken

[still hearth]

No clue

We hd two games with constant spawns

[digital narwhal]

Where is the single target Smite they mentioned in the Dev Blog?

They lied to us

[still hearth]

Like literally specialists every second

[glossy ember]

yeah

[still hearth]

And then next games barely anything

[glossy ember]

i think it's just the director being on crack

[still hearth]

Feels like the speed run check sometimes kicks in

And then just never stops

[glossy ember]

sometimes I have like

half the enemies killed between two diff histg missions

for no reason

weird gap

[still hearth]

It's there it just does nothing that the RMB doesn't

[glossy ember]

like total i mean

not just me

[fading iris]

I mean... when the bug is that the keystone thinks that surge smite is smite... don't think is the staff that is missing code, would be nice if worked properly with the staff tho

[sturdy dagger]

u think DD would be busted if it also fell off one at a time rather than the whole stack?

[digital narwhal]

They mentioned we could charge the Smite for single target-

[still hearth]

Ye

[digital narwhal]

I think they just had someone describe it like shit

[sturdy dagger]

shame

[still hearth]

Unless they fall off

[sturdy dagger]

the qol of that alone

[still hearth]

Like every 3s

[glossy ember]

railcannon smite

[still hearth]

15s per stack is too crazy

[glossy ember]

imagine

you're the Sniper specialist now

[still hearth]

That's the in game description btw

Smite primary is a HIGH DAMAGE attack

[digital narwhal]

They should have LMB Smite be what RMB Smite is right now, and then change RMB Smite to be a single target "Fuck you"

[sturdy dagger]

god that would be so cool

[digital narwhal]

Since charging Smite looks cool

[sturdy dagger]

but also i think that would fuck over BB so bad

like why would u ever use BB

[copper jay]

if it is jusf nerf it so we can kept he qol

[still hearth]

Make smite rmb a charged lightning spear

[digital narwhal]

BB/BR has infinite range and ignores LOS once you're locked

Smite has pretty limited range

[sturdy dagger]

still kinda cope if smite can be a railgun and mass cc tool

[fading iris]

I prefer buffs that make things fun instead of nerfs that makes things sad, even more in a game that doesn't have PvP