psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Haven't played much void.

Assail or smite probably. Assail seems like it would compliment the best tho.

[mossy canopy]

Does assail weakspot hit enough to make true aim worth it?

[strong gulch]

yee

[glossy ember]

nah i'll just bring up better data tomorrow

[viscid matrix]

i use Ruthless lacerate 😄

[glossy ember]

3 warp charges equivalent of being in scrier for one/two seconds. And I'll make sure to check how many seconds it takes to build a warp charge in scrier in real conditions

[viscid matrix]

smite, it can clear the area around you if you get swarmed, just use secondary and end it instantly to knock back everything thats not resistant to stagger

[shell igloo]

I'm guessing warp charges is probably ideal if you want a heavy-staff build

[glossy ember]

i'll check breakpoints, see what gets one shot, see what gets prioritized for early scrier

[echo turtle]

I feel like if ur not going shroud ur better off with ubcanncy

[glossy ember]

aight that was rude mb

[echo turtle]

It's not hard to get the sta ks up

[glossy ember]

not that you'd care, but w/e

[viscid matrix]

probably, but i dont wanna invest resouces to make a better knife when i barely use it

[echo turtle]

If ur didn't already do the perks it's like 200 plasteek

Worth

[viscid matrix]

if using Void staff, probably only need about 2 warp charges to 1shot crit headshot a crusher

[echo turtle]

What uh, difficulty you recommending that for?

A surge crit?

[viscid matrix]

damnation

[echo turtle]

Ah you mean with the surge blessing, got it

[viscid matrix]

yeh, sorry, i really wish FS would rename the blessing

[echo turtle]

I wish FS did a lot of things

[queen trout]

i heard the 2nd shot from surge isnt a crit shot itself

[echo turtle]

I wish I could test it and tell ya, I have every blessing but surge

[strong gulch]

So close. 🥲

[viscid matrix]

tbh you should always go into the psykanium and test it

[queen trout]

dont use void myselfm just remember seeing someone here say that

[feral knoll]

It feels wrong playing as a Gun Psyker. But at the same time. Casting “bullet” is funny

[viscid matrix]

OGM they did somthing, it doesnt 1tap anymore, it does still crit tho

the second hit didnt hit the head

hmm, it cant 1shot anymore, thats great

[queen trout]

well crusher do have 3600 hp, youd need to do 1800 per hit

[potent echo]

Also void damage nerfed abit

It "crits" but the damage is smaller

[viscid matrix]

hmm, it still has op knock everything on its ass ability

[potent echo]

Yea that wasn't changed

[strong gulch]

Take that bulwark. No hiding.

[sonic coral]

Maybe

[viscid matrix]

the fact that Surge has to use EP bug to boost its damage to match Void is still funny

[sonic coral]

Does blast radius actually matter all that much on trauma? All the damage is focused in the pinpoint in the middle anyway, basically negligible outside of that

[viscid matrix]

on trauma yes

[strong gulch]

Blast radius important

on trauma

[sonic coral]

Interesting, alright

[lyric burrow]

Yeah blast radius is like top 2 stat

[strong gulch]

unlimited cleave in the circle.

[magic summit]

Bro Psyker Limited TIme Acquisitions are so freaking depressing. Never any weapons psykers ever need compared to the other classes where there is usually several useful weapons to choose from. Guns and blades galore, no staffs ever.

/vent

[potent echo]

/quell

[magic summit]

lol

Honestly so freaking annoying. For WEEEEEKS

TRASH

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I feel that.

[potent echo]

4 staves vs thousands of guns

[magic summit]

Regularly buying something for one class or two, never Psyker because the offers are wildly useless. Like come on, have at least one staff offered.

[viscid matrix]

best bet, only use Melk store for 1 thing, buying random curios in the hopes of a 21% hp curio instead of checking every hour for 2

it bypasses the 2 per hour limit the other store has

[magic summit]

Is that a thing? 21hp is wild

[silent coral]

Stamina to flak and run and gun to warp flurry? would that make this good?

[magic summit]

That staffs stats are epic, run and gun is actually OK but warp nexus/warp flurry is best IMO. Thats an insanely epic staff

[mossy canopy]

Yep, max roll is 21 for hp and 17 for tough

[strong gulch]

Back to trauma.

Blast radius and charge rate are important. If you are are using trauma for damage, then you also want the damage stat to be high.

Have as much warp resistance and quell speed as you can while making sure the other stats are as high as possible.

[potent echo]

Yea it will be decent 3/4

[magic summit]

Change stamina out for damage to Flak/unyielding/carapace

[silent coral]

What is surge even used for any more? It dosnt CC now anymore right? Is it for AoE dps?

[potent echo]

Single target

Hit scan

24m range

It's like a specialist killer

One shots shotgunners and scab gunners

Combine with perilous combustion for maximum effect

[magic summit]

Surge is still super relevant and useful, remember you are a support staff. Surge is great for absolutely thrashing trash mobs for your team, and stunning the big boys.

[mossy canopy]

The only issue is trying to get it to choose the shotgunner over the swarm of trash

[strong gulch]

Single target. Stuns 2 targets without smite buffs.

[shell igloo]

There's a bug with empowered psionics that makes surge deal twice as much dmg as intended currently, but it's still a perfectly viable single target tool for elites and specials

[potent echo]

Aim higher and pray

[magic summit]

yeah, surge builds are still epic. just find the right one

[strong gulch]

Jump

[viscid matrix]

and yet it only does 1700 on a crit vs a crusher, slightly less than void currently does

[magic summit]

Surge/empowered/smite is a fun build, i've been crushing the common enemies with it like mad.

you are support, doing that damage and stunning big boys is your job. Its huge when you remember your team is doing the most damage

the value of the surge stun is massively underrated.

stunning dog hoards is massive, when i play another class and no one is doing it, i realize how important it is

[viscid matrix]

you mean smite stun

[potent echo]

Or just find a nice 90degree bend

[magic summit]

surge staff/smite w/e

:F

Dogs are bad at 90deg angles

[strong gulch]

I mean, that's what the code says too.

[hasty pier]

If I'm going fire trauma, should I go all the way down the warp charge tree?

Or utilize the less talents needed to fill empowered and load up on things like more crit and true aim?

[strong gulch]

Warp charge

[potent echo]

Warpsiphon depends on your combat ability

[hasty pier]

I like popping heads and venting

[potent echo]

But usually it's either gonna be shriek or shield so yea

[viscid matrix]

yeh they are both smite in the code 😄

[strong gulch]

Head pop, creeping flames, and fire trauma work well together.

[hasty pier]

True aim is so nice though

because every BB counts as two weak hits

the stagger before the pop for some reason counts

[strong gulch]

I don't use head pops often.

With warp nexus and higher peril play, you should be critting often enough.

HOWEVER, if you have the points, grab that true aim.

[viscid matrix]

we had those, and only those since launch, it wasnt until last month we had other options, so a lot of the old players are playing everything but warp siphon, BB and Vent

[hasty pier]

I just finally leveled a psyker lol

my last class

you literally can't grab true aim, warp rider, and flame shriek if you go all the way down the left side

[long wharf]

you absolutely can

[hasty pier]

forgot one

if you want mettle and timing that is

you're just one talent short

[viscid matrix]

just gotta sacrifice other nodes 😄 this is what i would use if using only left side

[hasty pier]

that's what I mean

you can't grab warp rider

its so close

[viscid matrix]

you can swap perfect timing for it

15% warp damage, or 20% all damage while above 80% peril

[hasty pier]

yeah but 15% damage 😦

[strong gulch]

I'd take warp rider over true aim on fire trauma build

[hasty pier]

That's probably what I'll do though

[storm cargo]

So I've combined BB/double stun wall/ Empower, with the recon las gun to build this really fun support main targets burn down build. Let's me put out sudden fires around the team and take out critical targets.

[viscid matrix]

ohh yeh, def, if you dont need to crit to proc blessings, then dont push for true aim

[hasty pier]

It's nice to slash heads and then swap to a free crit aoe

[torpid girder]

How good is empathic evasion?

[hasty pier]

I like shriek too much for it

[potent echo]

No you can still get it

[hasty pier]

I thought prescience for some reason

[viscid matrix]

amazing, as long as you keep criting

[hasty pier]

Its been a long day

[strong gulch]

valid

[potent echo]

It will show the most value on purgatus or IAGs like the columnus

[viscid matrix]

i would use this tree for that build 😄

[potent echo]

Even on assail it isn't consistent enough

Unless you count dodging one sniper shot once every 10 games to be valuable enough

[hasty pier]

none of the staves share blessings, right?

[potent echo]

Nope

[viscid matrix]

nope they are all seperate

[strong gulch]

Regular PSA for fire trauma (all staves); there is no T4 Blazing Spirit.

T4 Blazing Spirit only gets to grace force swords. 🥲

[hasty pier]

that's dumb

[potent echo]

I just want new marks for the staves

Imagine surge 2 is just old surge

[hasty pier]

I like my psyker simple

[storm cargo]

I do a few diffrent placements vs this set up but it's similar

[strong gulch]

I like pirate

[hasty pier]

When its the year 40k and you still can't afford a proper prosethetic

[versed hinge]

how get hat?

[viscid matrix]

i sit at 80% to 100% peril constantly(just a tap of quell between secondaries), so i dont need to quell on kill, and the 2 nodes above it are mediocre 😄

1mil away from white and green of this 😄

[strong gulch]

Paid in the limited shop. It just switched out a few days ago. 🥲

[storm cargo]

Lol see I lean into the Recon gun. I generate almost no peril when I decide to pop off.

[strong gulch]

I forgot how expensive those cosmetics are.

Roll for whites or save for cosmetics.

[hasty pier]

I got all the other penances done just leveling.

JUst need to grind out missions now

[viscid matrix]

😄 just get the black and red of the Redacted Penance ones

[onyx sentinel]

Eh.. it’s basically the regular coat we already had from the old penances with asset-swapped belt and whatnot

[hasty pier]

oh, and the dumb blessed by fate penance.

You can't grind that in psykanium can you?

[viscid matrix]

nope

[mossy canopy]

Ah, yes, the "My buddy is a sheild ogryn" set

[viscid matrix]

😄 get a group of psykers together, and take turns getting it 😄 Deflector Illisi with block efficiency can easily compensate for not having a ogryn

[mossy canopy]

You can solo carry it as a psyker actually

[pale pilot]

that also looks like it has the double layer flak pauldron

[storm cargo]

Oh I love running with other psykers with my build. I get all the ammo lol

[mossy canopy]

It's just that everyone does it the Ogryn way usually, I carried a few guys for it the psyker way last week

[viscid matrix]

true everyone does, but a Psyker can do it too 😄

[mossy canopy]

Venting Shriek without its upgrade, Kinetic Deflection, Dueling sword with block eff, and 3 curios with block eff make it no problem to hold a daemonhost

[viscid matrix]

Deflector force sword is better, since it reduces the block cost

[mossy canopy]

I thought it had a slower passive quell though?

[viscid matrix]

Warp Resistance on the force sword lowers how much you gain per block too

[pale pilot]

so any good way to balance my desire for MAXIMUM BLUE FIRE and survivability?

[strong gulch]

There are windows that you can quell when tanking a dh.

[viscid matrix]

spread the fire everywhere with Purga staff, it stagger everything that trys to melee you while secondary is active

[viscid matrix]

exorcist is a very good blessing for it too 😄

just gotta get good at hitting weakspots while blocking at the right time

[potent echo]

Did they get rid of the cheese spot

[pale pilot]

also is my shred/burning spirit illisi sword what i should use if i want MORE FIRE?

[mossy canopy]

Venting shriek is plenty for quell though, no need to risk the hits

[storm cargo]

I have no clue what blessings to look for on my tactical psyker. Especially since I'm not using staffs

[viscid matrix]

i dont think so

[strong gulch]

But don't hit the monster while tanking for the penance. 🥺

There is a silly build that I was doing with exorcist + blazing spirit on illisi with scrier's. 😂

[pale pilot]

or is sticking to classics like a deflector obscurus or a DS a better choice?

[potent echo]

Just stand on some sussy pipe in the factory

I think the repair mission

[strong gulch]

You can take all of the toughness regen nodes too.

[viscid matrix]

you have a 10 % wiggle room 😄

[potent echo]

Empathic evasion with purg staff

[strong gulch]

Stack that crit

[potent echo]

But also you aren't invulnerable

Still need to dodge here and there

[viscid matrix]

my Fire everywhere build

[pale pilot]

you two got any tree routing for those kinds of setups?

ooh, thanks

[potent echo]

Yep that's it

[shell igloo]

No Wildfire??

[viscid matrix]

its dogshite

[potent echo]

No don't take wildfire

It could be good one day

[viscid matrix]

its not worth the point

[potent echo]

You already don't have enough points

[viscid matrix]

it currently splits all the stacks evenly across eveyrhting around, so it ends up only putting 1 stack on others, and the range is not great

[pale pilot]

wildfire is the spread on kill one, right? except it's worthless because it uh. parcels out the stuff evenly?

[strong gulch]

Wildfire has very specific builds/ uses, but it's meh generally.

[potent echo]

Yea also max is 4 stacks

[storm cargo]

That blessing only affects the gun fire correct?

[potent echo]

If it dies with 15 stacks it only spreads 1 to 4 enemies

[viscid matrix]

yes, but its the best we have access too

[pale pilot]

like if it was doing what its descrip said it did it'd be an absolutely take it pick

[potent echo]

Yea one day maybe

[pale pilot]

i have it in my current flamebuild because i want to believe but i'm looking to change up my talent tree

[storm cargo]

Hmmm I see. Thanks.

[viscid matrix]

ahah found it https://streamable.com/4otvss

[storm cargo]

Nice

[potent echo]

Unlimited crits

[viscid matrix]

i swear Arco just gets lucky and crit chains forever

[potent echo]

No it's just how it works

True aim

[viscid matrix]

that isnt true aim, its not on, look at the buff bar

[potent echo]

And coloumnus crit string is 5 in a row

So yea it's just unlimited

I tried it too, it's definitely true aim

[viscid matrix]

true aim can do it, dont get me wrong, but that was without it

[potent echo]

Need to see the clip again

[viscid matrix]

its only got the toughness generation on crit move speed, empathic evasion and the blessing

[mossy canopy]

So, I'm working on a build focused around assail/crits because the funny crystals make me happy, but considering I usually quickplay I've been having issues. Randy Rando can't deal with monstrosities half the time even while I'm handling the horde/specials, do y'all think it'd be worth to switch from surge to voidstrike to hold the Rando's hand for it and stagger-spam the boss?

[potent echo]

Might be he hid the buff with a mod or moved it else where

[potent echo]

Void is really bad boss dps

You want to get yourself a pokey stick

And poke the head

[viscid matrix]

Knowing Arco, it’s possible

[potent echo]

Uncanny duelling sword4 can solo boss in less than a min

Not the best but still way better than void

[mossy canopy]

Very well, I was thinking more in terms of hold the damn thing still so they can deal with it

[potent echo]

Do the dodge dance

[viscid matrix]

Mk IV Uncanny plus unstable with crit and unyielding is what I would use for taking out monstrosities/carapace

[potent echo]

If you keep poking the head you should maintain aggro

[torn palm]

You can use the node that makes you gain peril when you block and then just dodge the big attacks

[potent echo]

Yea that helps alot vs bosses

[mossy canopy]

Fair, I'm already running KD to get to true aim so I might as well just go for the eye poker

[viscid matrix]

Could always get the Krieg dueling sword skin to make you feel better about it

[mossy canopy]

Eh, I like the poking stick as is, just been using it as a Mutie Slapping Device rather than boss killer

[viscid matrix]

Melee with boss is safest place for you, just make sure you have dome ready for BoN

[potent echo]

I run maniac unyielding on my duellies

[mossy canopy]

So something like this?

[potent echo]

Yea but with maniac

Or just no maniac and pray you get a crit or smth vs mutants

[covert fossil]

is the axe worth taking over the the Mk XI sword currently?

[potent echo]

XI sword?

[covert fossil]

yeah, i read the sword is great but i dont have the headtaker blessing

sorry IX sword

[potent echo]

Err this is psyker chat

[covert fossil]

my bad

[potent echo]

But that sword is pretty sweet

Deathblow HS are sick

[covert fossil]

ty (:

[humble pewter]

Surge Staff, Dueling Sword

[tall mural]

New to psyker after the overhauls which staff should I be using?

I’m committed to using a staff I’m just not sure which one is best all around

I know the first staff you get is kinda dookie

[humble pewter]

Surge staff

[potent echo]

Any staff you like

[tall mural]

That’s the one with the improved force ball secondary right ?

[rigid rune]

fool trauma is peak

[royal ibex]

howdy fellow spark'eads. moving over to the big thinkin squad and was wondering what teh best blaze sword there is atm

[humble pewter]

yes

the lightning staff

[coarse bane]

Surge staff

[tall mural]

Is the fire staff any good? I don’t have it unlocked yet

[strong gulch]

Pick any staff you like. There's various tools to build around any gaps.

[potent echo]

Purg the best

[royal ibex]

if you havent hit cap yet, dw about weapons for now. just get to 30 and then worry about it

[tall mural]

I’m really loving assail tho I like it way better than the head pop

[coarse bane]

How did you manage to get the build all in one screen cap?

[strong gulch]

Purg is fine.

It's easier to use compared to the others.

[potent echo]

But you can't go wrong with psyker loadouts just pick each slot to do a different task and you're golden

[tall mural]

I really disliked the head pop when the game first came out and that turned me away from psyker

[humble pewter]

ctrl + mousewheel down

[orchid shadow]

Illisi for better horder clear, or Deimos for better single target

[tall mural]

The skill tree overhaul really made it from my least favorite class to potentially my favorite honestly

[strong gulch]

There is the darktide builder web page or a mod the squish the tree in game.

[tall mural]

I previously mained zealot and Ogryn

[royal ibex]

thanks b0ss

[humble pewter]

yeah but if you're just looking to zoom out for any game

ctrl + mousewheel down works for any builder

[storm cargo]

Can't wait to get home and get those last few levels so I can fine tune the build.

[coarse bane]

So I've been running this with Deimos and Surge staff and just melt through waves of specials and elites. I miss having bubble to protect my team, but smite locking down so much of the horde needs venting shriek to burn peril. Plus makes for a massive horde clear.

[viscid crescent]

ty for sharing youre the best ❤️

[potent echo]

Smite venting is very complementary to any single target build

[humble pewter]

I never cast smite and just abuse the Surge Staff bug

[coarse bane]

Single handedly stopping a horde just feels so good.

[humble pewter]

yes

[thorn cedar]

Lmfao did they break the deimos heavy 2 recently or

Has it been doing this thing for a while?

Where when you land it on a head it just fucking THROWS whatever you hit onto their feet

[potent echo]

Hell yea

And not just throws them anywhere, specifically to the right

[thorn cedar]

Its hilarious

"Outta my FUKKEN way"

throw them aside like trash

[potent echo]

Just cartwheel them across the floor

[coarse bane]

Were you Petra?

[lunar hollow]

they broke it in patch 14

the impact on it is insane

[potent echo]

Whoomp

[dark swift]

Do blessings on Weapons of different Marks share across eachother? For example If I learn a blessing from a Mark V Dueling Sword will it apply to Mark IV?

[humble pewter]

yes

[willow escarp]

Yes

[royal ibex]

if it shares a weapon skin, itl share blessings

[thorn cedar]

Yeah man I have not Deimos'd in months. I missed this thing.

I really did forget about it. It was what I was missing for my silly Gunker build

[hasty pier]

tfw you're in a damn with 3 vets who are all using krak alongside a plasma, revolver, and Mg 1A

I was basically the only horde clear

[royal ibex]

pain

[eternal pike]

So for peril even if the action brings you to 100% you don't blow up unless you do another action after correct?

[coarse bane]

For the most part, yes.

[eternal pike]

I'm assuming it's different for smite but that's fair

[hasty pier]

I'm having no luck tonight

You ever get tossed through the floor by a chaos spawn?

Threw me through the floor, knocked our ogryn off the platform while doing it

[royal ibex]

with smite once you hit 100 you stop and vent like 5%

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNe6J_nkQ9w

[high yarrow]

what are some good psyker builds after patch 14? Currently doing an assail build with bubble

[feral knoll]

Question to Gun Psykers. Do you all like Warp Siphon or DD more

[eternal pike]

I'm really enjoying the smite surge build

[feral knoll]

I have DD but was curious

[zinc ice]

Yeah. The Smite Surge build is pretty nice.

[high yarrow]

anyone got a sheet for the build?

[eternal pike]

You have answers for basically everything and surge is braindead

https://youtu.be/QibVVpAOE-U?si=xwSiCPXjC25eHYEJ

The sheet is in the desc

[harsh urchin]

Assail, surge and voidstrike are very strong and consistent

[eternal pike]

Running vent over bubble takes some getting use to but you just go brrr

[harsh urchin]

Trauma and gunpsyker are also good, but not as broken as those

[harsh orchid]

I'm adding y'all smite psykers to the list of people I hate now

[frank fulcrum]

DAMN

why so @harsh orchid

[harsh orchid]

just had a game where the two smite psykers stood there smiting the whole time not dodging or anything and they died like 4 times

[frank fulcrum]

that just sounds like bad players

[ornate hamlet]

God's chosen revolver psyker

[hearty oak]

Is there any differences between the dueling swords?

[coarse bane]

Attack pattern

[feral knoll]

Heavy attacks mostly

[hearty oak]

Any that stand out above the rest?

[coarse bane]

Hmm, a lot seem to love IV

I think it's more dependant on the blessings it rolls.

[ornate hamlet]

Mk4 is the clear winner

The modifiers for the heavy attack are absolutely stupid

The lights are also downward diagonals

If you have one to pick, I'd strongly suggest mk4

If you don't like the appearance, nab the weapon customization mod from the modding Discord and change it

[hearty oak]

Alright. Just wanting to know which before dumping resourcves into something

[ornate hamlet]

If need be, just get more resources

[coarse bane]

Good luck getting a good roll from Brunt!

[robust sierra]

Is brain burst still bad? Is there a way to hit breakpoints on crushers and heavier targets other than empowered psionics?

[coarse bane]

It's not bad, it's just too slow for the amount of damage it does.

[echo turtle]

It's ok, it packs a punch and can pick stuff off but I have grown to love smite.

Smite shuts down pox bursters, which are the biggest threat hands down

[rose dagger]

Hmm

Guh

[echo turtle]

If you have smite out when you here a burster and use it to stop them from getting your team, you are going to be one of the best psykers around. Imo that's basically the only time you wanna use it, that and maybe a mutie/dog fiesta

[coarse bane]

If they made it as fast as it is with empowered psionics, it would really make it competitive.

[echo turtle]

It's competitive as is. If you stop 90% of bursters you stop most wipes

[rose dagger]

That fast at base? That'd be kinda crazy

[coarse bane]

So is a bolter and plasma.

[ornate hamlet]

I just dive at the burster

[echo turtle]

It's super fast if you trigger it after a blitz with psionic

[rose dagger]

That it is

[echo turtle]

That's not always an option

[ornate hamlet]

I shoot it

[echo turtle]

Eh, if you don't understand why stopping bursters is valuable, GL on Aurics maelstrom

[hearty oak]

Not gonna lie, they had me in the first quarter and then they lost me

[echo turtle]

Ur gonna need it

[ornate hamlet]

That's one stretch

[coarse bane]

That's not too bad at all. Reroll the Rampage, since it's not the best cleaver.

[mossy canopy]

The Omnissiah has finally deemed fit to give me a plogryn prodder, now to find reposte IV...

[hearty oak]

Nothing to really reroll it with unless i want +55% finesse

[coarse bane]

Farm up riposte or uncanny?

[hearty oak]

Ye. gonna have to

[rose dagger]

Does duelling sword even do average boss dmg

[coarse bane]

With weak spot hits, yes.

[rose dagger]

Hmm

[potent echo]

Less than a min to solo

I think arco got 40seconds

[rose dagger]

Time to lab it with creature spawner

[potent echo]

Yea it's pretty decent

If you have purgatus staff, even faster

Burn it and rend it

[hearty oak]

maybe??

ran out of plasteel before i could gold it

[coarse bane]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-i-hope-so-please-please-gif-19730905

[potent echo]

Oh yea, but it's already usable

Riposte/shred/precog is just extra juice

[hearty oak]

I just want to run a zealot psyker if im honest

[potent echo]

Why not

[hearty oak]

scrier and just run in and poke some eyes out

[potent echo]

Gunker is essentially zealot psyker

Just pretend your extra 20% movement speed is chastise

[hearty oak]

Someone told me theres a way to get way extra movement speed

and i need to know how

Maybe DD

[potent echo]

Scrier gives speed

If you take the speed node

Also DD

Also mettle

[zinc ice]

PRAISE THE OMNISISSIAH

[hearty oak]

Its time to experiment

or die trying

||Likely dying||

[zinc ice]

If you aren’t killing yourself trying new things are you really a Psyker?

[hearty oak]

I met a 300 psyker giving my zealot a run for her money for how fast we were cleaving through hordes with his crit psyker

absolutely insane

[potent echo]

Just press F

Screen goes blue

[kind jay]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743649

[near wyvern]

"blue screen of death"

[shadow wigeon]

I just noticed Warp Flurry got a big upgrade. The text still says "chained hit" but it has a 5 second cooldown.... was that in the big patch? or more recent.

[royal ibex]

oh boy cant wait for hadron to brick this

[teal needle]

Hadron: Are you ready for terrifying barrage + run & gun, varlet?

[potent echo]

Yea patch 13

Changed all the "chained" effects to a timer

Like decimator and stuff

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I noticed deci is much easier to use with that fix as well.
Huh, cool. That's a pretty huge buff to Flurry, makes sense whey they nerfed the values a bit.

[ornate hamlet]

And also to misses

Well, some of them

It's complicated

Executor, for example, doesn't drop on misses, but drops on bodyshots

If you miss an attack and block on some weapons, the chained buff can go on until the block ends or the timer ends

Quirky gamer shit

[shadow wigeon]

run & gun + speedloader is the way.

[ornate hamlet]

I wish they didn't cripple speedloader for melee

[shadow wigeon]

That sort of makes sense, chainging a different type of attack in there.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, it was a nifty idea before.
It's a bit hard to use now, but if you really commit it it can be pretty wild

It's just significantly worse than using revolver for precision shots.

I happened to roll run and gun + speedloader on vet, and kept it for memes. It's fun to use, bit you have to lean waaaaaaaaaaay in.

[hearty oak]

What does finesse even do. Does it just increase critdamage?

[ornate hamlet]

Crit damage and headshot damage

[hearty oak]

Im just wanting to see what shred will do with this build then

[ornate hamlet]

is the obscurus force sword viable at all

[strong gulch]

It's also attack speed

[strong gulch]

Everything is. It's not meta tho.

[ornate hamlet]

compared to the other force swordsaa

whats it do that they cant

[lethal lagoon]

Make you look like a confused since beta player who came back after a year for the big patch?

[crimson remnant]

Hi guys, Whats the deimos godroll blessings?

[lethal lagoon]

Obscurus does that better than any weapon in the game

[ornate hamlet]

i remember deflector obscurus being everywhere

[lethal lagoon]

Gun units used to be so much more threatening

[frail sand]

what is different about obbscurus now compared to like other force swords?

[lethal lagoon]

Now everyone but zealots has infinite toughness and they are just meh

[ornate hamlet]

zealots got infinite damage reduction

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah zealots aint doing bad, just feels so weird to play them after having infinite toughness on other chars

[sturdy dagger]

What

Packs of shooters are like kryptonite to my poor ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

I just laugh while spamming heavies, they do literally nothing.

Compared to beta, they are little babies

[cold geode]

its true

[lethal lagoon]

What kind of build you running? 25% toughness, at minimum per heavy atk should be keeping you safe from shooters.

Key is staying in melee range of anything

[ornate hamlet]

Question?

I have a question.

[lethal lagoon]

There's no answer to that one friend

[sturdy dagger]

Right sure if you can get in melee range it's fine but when theres 30 gunners on high ground on the opposite side of a huge room

[ornate hamlet]

Studies find asking the question instead of asking if you can ask the question increases your chance for answers exponentially

[lethal lagoon]

Use whatever enemies are in between as little toughness checkpoints.

That's actually the worst part about assial psykers. They kill toughness checkpoints and don't kill the actual threats.

[wet belfry]

Are you sure we can trust these studies?

[ornate hamlet]

No

[lethal lagoon]

Asking a small easy to answer question will likely increase the chances of them answering a tougher question

[sturdy dagger]

If only that would ever happen lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Studies probably show that.

Then lay down a bit of range fire for some stuns and charge ability in?

Ogryn does have the most OP gun in the game atm

[royal ibex]

fellas i dont think it looks good

[ornate hamlet]

Mildly salvageable

[lethal lagoon]

Reload spd is fine

[ornate hamlet]

Reload speed ain't too shitty at least

I'd pop weakspot in there if the second blessing turns out not literal garbage

[frail sand]

i think i would already give up at this point

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean weakspot perk? That doesn't really work like you think it does.

It only applies to weakspot damage, not the entire weakspot hit.

a 25% DMG of some sort is almost always better.

or 5% crit

[idle bay]

Stilll keep it. Maybe in a year when game will have like 500 active players on peak - they will allow 3 changes for weapon instead on 2 (just 1 lock instead of 2).

[royal ibex]

gonna max it just to see what other blessing i get

if only to eat it for another revolver

[lethal lagoon]

meh, game never went below 2k on steam alone

[idle bay]

I bet they use unpaid interns to keep playing the game to keep numbers up 🙂

Well before patch 13 it is

[royal ibex]

i mean the gameplay was still solid its just everything else around it

[idle bay]

"A lot of new build variety but suck Hadron's wooden leg if you want new weapons for that new build of yours " - how Fatshark view crafting

[royal ibex]

god i hate the crafting system as is

[worthy dune]

Which one of you

[royal ibex]

remember when perks used to be random, so youd have to keep rolling and hope to christ youd get a t4?

[lethal lagoon]

I always wondered if a pay to win system remodeled to require no money would be fun...

It's not.

[idle bay]

And we had to use mod to deal with re-rolls

[royal ibex]

'158 rerolls to get this specific thing you wanted'

hit a point where they were free but still, fucking hell

[idle bay]

It's clerly one of our best siblings

[lethal lagoon]

first mod I installed was to roll perks lmao

[royal ibex]

thats got to be the best psyker ive ever seen

[potent echo]

Oh that red dragon coat is glorious

[royal ibex]

37 more games till i get the witchshroud hat, meanwhile my ogryns on 100+ games and quickplay still hasnt matched me with every mission type

keeping it relevant, what am i going for with the psyker revolver anyway

[idle bay]

How many missions you completed so far?

[royal ibex]

everything on damnation on veteran, so the map wont tell me which ones are needed. 6/7 for oggy

[idle bay]

There a penance in Missions section that tracks overall mission completion count

Atoma Auxillaria or something

[royal ibex]

oh uhh

403

[royal ibex]

of those, 44 are zealot lmao. just dont enjoy shouty

[ornate hamlet]

HOLY SHIT

[idle bay]

I enjoed shouty the least.. until patch 13. Then it's "i'm the speed and that Eviscirator is fun as hell!"

[ornate hamlet]

IT'S THE SHADOW WIZARD MONEY GANG

[idle bay]

I'm past 1500 missions though

[royal ibex]

yeah i played for a while then stopped, came back with u13

100ish hours before u13 and...297 now

[ornate hamlet]

I think zealot became probably the least flexible class since the patch

[potent echo]

What

[ornate hamlet]

Knife is ass, beacon of purity is incredibly niche, loner is ass, TWBS and holy revenant are pretty much a given in any build

[potent echo]

Knife is ass? No way

[ornate hamlet]

I feel like I'm always funneled towards the same build

[potent echo]

Ever tried martyr lmao

Actually the most broken thing in the game right now

People just don't try it because it's scary

[royal ibex]

i just mock martyrdom zealots since i keep getting terrible ones

[idle bay]

Knife is classic as kark.

Kyle Zealots

[potent echo]

Blades of faith

Not catachan combat blade

[royal ibex]

the 'nade'

[idle bay]

Knife zealots used to be the meme. Because of low percentage of good ones and big percentage of bad ones (that run away in straight line to die in 10-20 seconds).

[potent echo]

I mean the throwing knife

[royal ibex]

i mean both are still memes

seeing a loner aura is open invitation to bully

[idle bay]

Throwing knifes are fine.. just need comfy key binding for them 🙂

[potent echo]

They buffed knives to properly one shot dreg gunners now so it's actually usable -> good

[rough python]

hey yall, wondering what good monster damage psyker has available other than brain burst

[ornate hamlet]

I mean

That's not a really high bar

[sturdy dagger]

Literally same, like almost to the exact hour lmao

[ornate hamlet]

If you're funky at dodging, you can grab combat axes, tactical axes, dueling swords, force swords, laspistols, revolvers, infantry autoguns

[potent echo]

I need to make a uncanny pokey stick video

[ornate hamlet]

I would like them more if they weren't basically a revolver with less penetration, a projectile arc and 12 shots

And zero carapace damage

[idle bay]

1. Deimos (Uncanny + Unstable + Unyelding)
2. Gaze + Laspistol (Inferuns + DumDum)

Don't tell on forums or they will bitch about nerfing it

[potent echo]

I'll only bring knives if I run bolter or flamer

[rough python]

thank you, ill check it out

[ornate hamlet]

I never run bolter or flamer

[idle bay]

Deimos second Heavy poke , and Laspistoil require you to actually hit weak spot

[ornate hamlet]

Too clunky for how they perform

[potent echo]

True they don't feel too good to use

Also remember to run true aim for laspistol

[ornate hamlet]

I find it much easier to get faster weapons like the revolver and laspistol and compensate elsewhere

[rough python]

but none of the staffs do much?

[potent echo]

Yea but knives are fun too

[ornate hamlet]

Specially since apparently Fatshark will never fix the bolter ADS jerk

[potent echo]

Purg helps if you stack soulblaze and boss then start to dps the head with uncanny blessing sword

Usually they died before the stacks wear off

[potent echo]

I've gotten used to just spamming ADS in between every shot

[rough python]

what uncanny do now?

[potent echo]

Rending, gives you armor penetration

Including the burn damage the boss is taking

[rough python]

rending works on unyeilding?

[potent echo]

So yea it's pretty strong

[ornate hamlet]

Rending works as it used to, but now rending gives you a 4/1 damage bonus past 100%

[potent echo]

Yea

#psyker-class message

[ornate hamlet]

So if you have 100% rending buffing you and normally deals 20% damage against carapace, that 80% will complete the 100% and the remaining 20% rending will turn into 5% damage

[potent echo]

More boss damage than the entire team combined lol

[ornate hamlet]

0 bosses killed
boss damage

Liberal agenda

Psyop

CIA gaslighting

[potent echo]

This ain't dota who needs last hits

Or technically I think they all died to soulblaze so it didn't count 🤷‍♂️

[ornate hamlet]

what perks are wanted on a voidstrike

[potent echo]

Surge/nexus

Or

Flurry/transfer

Oh perks err

Flak for scab gunners

[ornate hamlet]

maniac right

[potent echo]

Maniac to two shot ragers I think

[ornate hamlet]

unyielding wouldnt be bad though right

[surreal jetty]

is VS still good after nerfs? haven't messed with one in a bit

[potent echo]

If you are unhinged unarmored is a pick to oneshot headshot dreg gunners

It's still void yea

[rough python]

is surge still good? whats the difference between that and smite?

[ornate hamlet]

if the next blessing isnt surge imma replace specialists probably

[potent echo]

Yea replace with flak

[ornate hamlet]

would maniac not be more important

due to specials

[deft osprey]

What's the dump stat for purge staff?

[ornate hamlet]

i use quell speed as the dump stat for every staff

its the least important imo

[sturdy dagger]

Surge singls target kills smite is cc tool

[ornate hamlet]

surge is more like

triple target kills

[rough python]

thank you

[surreal jetty]

what staff do you guys use with a smite build?

[woeful patio]

Surge

For whatever reason, Smite perks affect surge staff

Plus Surge is just a good choice in general

[surreal jetty]

good to know, thanks

[deft osprey]

Is damage stat important for purge staff? Like it relies more on burn for more damage right?

[surreal jetty]

burn and cloud are important

not really sure what the dmg does tbh, is that like the impact of the flames?

[sturdy dagger]

Full dmg first targets severely reduced on 2nd, maybecwith smite bug

[frail sand]

is there a way to make max peril sound quieter

[worthy dune]

Update: (Can't say name cause FS rules ig?) This mf was one of the most aggro ass, crit gun oriented, gung ho psykers ive ever seen

[echo turtle]

Surge rules, I just played a game with a purgatus user, I had more soul blaze damage just from creeping flames/venting shriek than he did with his purgatus

[worthy dune]

update to this mf*

[royal ibex]

thanks hadron very cool

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[ornate hamlet]

really good

(lie)

[teal needle]

I called she'd give you terrifying barrage tho <<'

[pale crescent]

Mom says we have Veteran at home

[fresh reef]

no way, a match where everyone actually pulled their weight equally
I thought these were just a myth

[potent echo]

9 boss damage

What even does 9 damage in this game

[royal ibex]

slap id imagine

[primal plume]

I think EP smite should also reduce the warp cost by 25% or something

the 125% is nice but it feels to expensive to make use of

[potent echo]

Ogryn slapped the boss and walked away

[royal ibex]

will smith approach, i respect it

[teal needle]

Hm don't think the voidstrike nerf was enough

[royal ibex]

got a revolver with 20% maniac/unyielding and 70% rending on crit. whats the final blessing i should be aiming for here

[potent echo]

Voidstrike gets crazy overkill damage so scoreboard might show something crazy like 700-800k damage

[hearty oak]

Would shred or riposte better?

dodging gets that instant crit chance rather than building for it

[teal needle]

I don't even run scoreboards, it still just mindlessly obliterates everything for me lol

[sturdy dagger]

I haven't really bothered with voidstrike in awhile what's the build rn? Nexus and flurry?

[ashen schooner]

that works, nexus surge is max damage, the old flurry transfer works too

[sturdy dagger]

Surge?

That the double hit?

[potent echo]

Yea

I might try flurry though, surge doesn't let you choose when it happens

And yea true aim but also

[plucky flax]

I use surge flurry with tru aim.

[potent echo]

Might try this for a few rounds

No flurry feels so sluggish

[plucky flax]

Change your height to be quite tall so you can headshot easily.

And tru aim proc a lot

[potent echo]

True

[near wyvern]

You can also jump before you cast but the timing requires quite a lot of practice

[fading sail]

There is in the menus, not sure it's on the audio page, it wasn't originally but it's a 0 to 100 "peril intensity" or somesuch option

[severe folio]

shred let you proactively gain crit, riposte require you to dodge things to get it, and you get to dodge a lot but its not a guranteed that you will get to dodge attacks and gain crit, meanwhile hitting things is a gurantee

[potent echo]

Shred also has a higher bonus at max stacks I think

Depends on weapon

[ornate hamlet]

4% and 5 stacks

[proven hazel]

finally earned enough to get the most expensive set of pajamas in the game

i have no idea why these cost the most out of any set

[tame venture]

it's got the green

[proven hazel]

I guess

its not even patterned or anything though

[magic hull]

any kind fellas currently in game show me what the psyker and overall cosmetic shop looks like? im away 😦

[fluid knot]

Oh the new skins?

gimmie a mo, will boot 'er up

@magic hull

[royal ibex]

sabers nice but fucking hell 900 aquilas

[potent echo]

It's so dumb, weapon skins are the worst because it only shows when you use that weapon

Unless it's a weapon skin pack bleegh

[royal ibex]

well. it could be worse. least i can replace gloryhunter

[idle aurora]

the only weapon skins i bought where 2 staff skins, because they actually changed model a lot, compared to default ones

[potent echo]

Yea, I think you can use the skin for every staff too

[idle aurora]

Yep

[viscid fox]

Any tips for a new phyker player?

[unique sand]

which perk should i change

[obtuse moth]

take venting shriek so you dont blow up accidentally until you get used to it

[near wyvern]

Don't blow up

And staves get considerable better once they get better stats (lvl 30), you might be better off playing with guns until level 25 ish

[still hearth]

Crit to flak probably

[deft osprey]

What perks should I get for purge staff?

[still hearth]

Crit chance and Unyielding is what I go

Flak could be worth it now though that the direct damage is good

[deft osprey]

I heard that when purge crit, it will apply double burn stacks?

[still hearth]

Yes

[deft osprey]

Oh, so I guess I should get crit chance then

[still hearth]

If your last proc crits you also apply 1 more than your cap for soulblaze

So more crits is good for bosses too

[viscid fox]

What side of the tree would be better for a beginner?

[still hearth]

Assail is very easy to use

So right side then over to middle/left

You don't want to go all the way down right side since that's the risky side

[near wyvern]

Assails are OP for levelling

[viscid fox]

I've been using smite and it seems kinda idiot proof because u can't blow your self up with it

[still hearth]

Smite is really bad without the keystone for it rn

With the keystone and nodes it can clear out hordes pretty well

Without it its just a low damage CC

[viscid fox]

I've been using it to just stagger everything so my team can take it out

[still hearth]

It teaches a lot of bad habits

Yeah

That's very bad habits

[viscid fox]

Why would that be?

[still hearth]

Because it won't work well in high difficulties

The spawn timers mean you gotta kill things faster

And especially in low difficulties its better to learn how to fight enemies properly

Smite basically turns off the game (so does Trauma staff often tbf)

[near wyvern]

@viscid fox try something like this for levelling

works for whatever weapons you use cause Assail is pretty much your primary weapon here while levelling

should be super effective but can get quite boring quite fast

after that 25 it's just experimenting, you can even completely switch builds at that point if you wish

and at 30 you have all builds at your disposal

[viscid fox]

Been playing with my friends on dom for the last 3 games and they like smite

[near wyvern]

@viscid fox what level are you?

[still hearth]

Smite is good

[viscid fox]

23 I think

[still hearth]

The issue I have is that you aren't engaging with the game for everything that isn't smite

So it'll be like taking off the training wheels later

[native plover]

Honestly i get the face cosmetics be cool, but why did i make my character, just to cover their entire face?

[still hearth]

But that depends on how you use it

[near wyvern]

if you wanna continue with smite you can try something like this

it's a team support build

[obtuse moth]

its fine with creeping flame venting shriek, builds peril while holding things in place then immolates them all. bad with bubble, havent tried to use it situationally on a gaze melee build

[native plover]

I always lean to being defensive with my psychic powers. Think it being OP before patch made me afraid of ruining other people's fun lol

[near wyvern]

there is no point in going smite with a gaze melee build, cause your gaze melee is the horde tool already

[viscid fox]

I will try a few games like u guys said with the arrow things see how I like it

[still hearth]

Sure but creeping flame just kills the horde anyway

[obtuse moth]

itd be for the mega multipack of bulwarks and crushers

[still hearth]

I mostly used smite before to get peril for creeping flame tbh

[obtuse moth]

or for pushing pox w/e

idk i think smite is a tool not for damage, use it for when people are going down or when the special spam outpaces the squad's ability to handle it or to rescue someone's bad positioning etc

[near gale]

How is this trauma staff?

[obtuse moth]

meh if its for direct damage imo ^

definitely not worth melk bucks unless you dont care about them and need a staff rn

[near wyvern]

it can be palyed both ways

if you find yourself smiting all the time might as well build it for damage at that point

[near wyvern]

a bit lo on the damage department but usable if you go warp siphon keystone to make up for it, run 'n gun into rending shockwave or warp nexus and unyielding damage into +maniac for example (mainly for dreg ragers)

[rough cedar]

is this worth using?

[viscid fox]

What do I want to bring for dealing with armoured targets?

[dense yew]

I usually bring a Deimos, but I'm sure someone has a better suggestion

[wet belfry]

Surge staff, Shockwave trauma staff, Crit voidstrike staff, uncanny dueling sword, uncanny deimos, combat axe, uncanny knife.

certain guns like revolver, headhunters, infantary autoguns can also work with build adjustments

[fluid knot]

*Dont run Surge if you're also running EP, you'll get kicked from games/have people leave fairly regularly

[viscid fox]

What's ep

[fluid knot]

Empowered psyonics

[obtuse moth]

eh? havent seen anyone kick for that or people leave more often

[fluid knot]

I have

[obtuse moth]

it still does less damage than voidstrike doesn't it?

[fluid knot]

I dont know, ive not played Psyker since P13

It went from the most mechanically interesting class to the most deadbrain in a single patch

[obtuse moth]

havent seen anyone kicked for infinite surge smite or handcannon assail either etc

[fluid knot]

They're a bit less obvious is probably why

[obtuse moth]

infinite smite is incredibly obvious and obnoxious

[fluid knot]

You can spot someone using EP/Surge from a mile away because Crushers an Muties pop in such a ridiculous time

Infinite smite isnt even a thing in P14 idt

[obtuse moth]

they still pop faster with voidstrike

[fluid knot]

Moreoever, it was only every a gimmick. It never had much actual offensive ability

[viscid fox]

What's wrong with that combo?

[fluid knot]

The hundred an something % increase Smite is menna get is applied to the Surge staff

[obtuse moth]

its bugged so you can do +125% damage with surge staff if you have the buff

[glossy ember]

what's the big diff between patch 13 and 14 mechanically? I wasn't there for 13 on psyker

[viscid fox]

So basically op glitch

[wet belfry]

Voidstrike nerfed, surge buffed.

Assail also was nerfed

[fluid knot]

Pre-Patch 13 it was mechanically interesting. Quell cancelling an shit was neutered, the Void went from requiring a lot of mechanical skill to requiring absolutely zero, Few other dribs an drabs, but yeah. They just made it way too user friendly

"nerfed" kek

They took 50 damage off it

[wet belfry]

20% weaker is a significant nerf

[fluid knot]

If it wasnt a super spammable aimbot, sure

But it is, so it was hardly a significant nerf

[glossy ember]

i see, unfortunate

[wet belfry]

I think if you purely just look at numbers right now assail isnt that much stronger then other options.

[fluid knot]

An besides, they didnt even really take the damage off it, they just moved it to the RMB

[wet belfry]

Staffs can put out similar damage outputs or guns.

[fluid knot]

In terms of damage no, in practice its way above a lot of stuff, because it doesnt require you to aim

You just spam them and wave your mouse around like a dickhead

[obtuse moth]

they asked about 13->14, not your complaints about 12->13 tho?

[fluid knot]

Oh well, thats what they got

[wet belfry]

Though in some respects i find it questionable what people view as balanced and what it isnt.

Theres no clear consensus for what is balanced and isnt

Strength of classes is determined by arbitirary metrics.

[fluid knot]

Idk, i would say there is. When something can solo a good 80% of the mission in the hands of anyone even mildly competant thats a pretty fair classification of a balance issue

[wet belfry]

Dang dude

you just made a point i was about to make

Zealot, ogryn by that metric is op

[fluid knot]

Zealot is a bit of a weird case because of the mobility bonus', Ogg is certainly a bit too strong tho

But yeah this also predicates on the average skilled player, not those that are the 1%

[idle bay]

And Unless veteran is packing plamsma and/or good shot - he is meh

[fluid knot]

See; Kickback and Assail for two of the most egregious examples

[idle bay]

Kickback needs ammo cart in tow with ogryn - it's too much fun to shoot!

[fluid knot]

Sure it is, but its also giga-busted due to some of the attributes it has

[idle bay]

It fells on level of EP surge bug - so i restrain myself from using it. Instead 'm using GG

[fluid knot]

Like it does the correct amount of damage, but having min' pellet count as 16 and 80% ADMs vs certain armour types at range is what actually breaks it

[fluid knot]

Yep. I agree

Also, respect 🙏

Same reason im not using my godrolled Revvy atm; Handcannon issues

[idle bay]

It's fun too grab for one mission to blow steam off ,and then get back to toiling

[wet belfry]

Id really like to see however some real definite proof that assail right now is too strong.

[fluid knot]

It has ten charges, basically no recharge timer and kills everything that isnt carapace armoured/a boss. How is that not too strong?

[wet belfry]

Its nice to see when weapons actually shine, prove it through hard gameplay.

[fluid knot]

AND its an aimbot

I would call that far too strong a combination of attributes

[idle bay]

Weapon/Ability is strong when it trivializes hard content

[viscid fox]

I'm not really sure how to use the shards

[idle bay]

Smite is INSANELY overopowerd by that metric. Assail is just.. eh.. ok.

[fluid knot]

Nah, Smite dont kill nothin

Well it does, just really fuckin slowly

[idle bay]

That is not the point of Smite

[viscid fox]

Noticed

[wet belfry]

Some examples of blatant op things have been shredder autopistol, flamer.

[viscid fox]

If nothing can move your teammates can walk over them

[glossy ember]

assuming your teammates take notice, it can trivialize a tough horde

[wet belfry]

These things got proven in actual games to be really busted weapons that can trivalize some of the hardest content in the game.

[idle bay]

Point of Smite that it turns ""party gets stemrolled and killed in seconds" into - just another day in the Hive

And if paired with Soulfire shinenigans - you don't need Smite do damage at all

[fluid knot]

Sure they can, but its not overpowered because it does one thing very well. It isnt particularly efficient, lacks any killing power and its short range. Whilst CC can be valuable, its not on the same tier as something that just kills the enemies

[idle bay]

Assail trivializes content below Damnation, on Damnation it makes thing a bit easier and kills you for overconfindence in it 🙂

[glad viper]

got to say with smite I have saved/carried so many runs and after a while of continues smiting even cleared out entire hordes + specials

[viscid fox]

It can make any fight trivial and easy

[fluid knot]

Thats a skill issue tho

[idle bay]

I think only small percentage o psyker players know that shards are guided

[fluid knot]

Really? that'd be a surprise tbh

Its uhh.. rather obvious

[glad viper]

smite is quite op but looking at some randos I ended up with I would almost say without smite those runs would've been impossible (which is why I call my build the "babysitter-build" )

[idle bay]

They play as spam and forget

[fluid knot]

Its even more obvious in that example is it not?

Moment you look away from a horde everything you pass your mouse over starts taking damage/dying

[idle bay]

Mother Goose build with Dome and Smite 🙂

And Surge to actually kill things

And DS to bully Crushers Ragers and Maulers

[glad viper]

yep it's baffling and funny at the same time how many runs would've been a pure mess without those

[viscid fox]

Doesn't everyone know its basically yondu dart?

[idle bay]

The idea that Dome can be used to herd you stray teammates is brilliant!

[royal ibex]

been running assail/dome/revolver recently. entertaining enough, just use the assail when you get some empoweres psionic stacks for crowds

[idle bay]

They did not read the manual ™

[fluid knot]

I think a lot of that is Placebo

[wet belfry]

Coherency is overrated

[viscid fox]

I thought that was its selling point

[idle bay]

Dome does help. Not every teammate good ad dodging snipers - and dome disables those. Also save team from spawn of 10 gunners barrage - will do!

[fluid knot]

There are some situations where dome can be goated, but a lot of the time i see folks just drop it randomly in situations where it doesnt actually do owt

[viscid fox]

I love the dome

[glad viper]

it totally is a placebo but it works perfectly for those who have the glorious idea of running away from the group when they hear a horde/monstrosity/maniac

[glossy ember]

From my experience, More often than not people see the big shining dome and go "oooo" and go into it.

in power outage missions I wish it acted like a light source though. Would be neat

[fluid knot]

Vets typically will run into it, Oggies an Zealots not so much

[glossy ember]

to be fair oggies probably don't need it

[fluid knot]

but this is just based on what i see in pugs

[idle bay]

I drop mine Dome when i'm typing in chat. For some reason i can;t disable controls while i'm chatting

[fluid knot]

Oh thats pretty weird

[idle bay]

930 hours into the game and i don;t knwo what to do with it

[viscid fox]

Play on controller that's what I do

[idle bay]

HERESY!

[viscid fox]

Lol

[idle bay]

I have archeotech PC assembled in 2012 and it still runs Darktide on high 🙂

[fluid knot]

I can imagine playing DT on a controller. Theres jsut too much goin on

[fluid knot]

Really? Fair fuckin play

Must dumped like a few grand on it when you built it

[idle bay]

It was a bit overkill for it's time... but totaly worth it

[fluid knot]

"a bit"

If its lasted a full decade thats more than a bit

[idle bay]

Only thing thatchanged- added SSD and that's it.

[viscid fox]

Not overkill if it lasts 10 years

[glossy ember]

I think that's an outdated mod, happened to me

[idle bay]

By the Omnissia wil 🙂

[glossy ember]

try updating your mods if you havent

[frank moat]

Psyker is totally fine on controller, only thing I might have trouble with is nailing a sniper with a stave bolt on the first try

[viscid fox]

I even do it on vet lol

[idle bay]

I think that Chatblock mod can have something to with that (auto-hold block while chatting)

[glossy ember]

Yeah definitely

Also full auto mod if you have it

that made me constantly shoot when opening chat box

until i updated

[frank moat]

I know when patch 13 dropped I hadn’t updated DMF and it meant that any time I was in any menu (ie changing my skills) everyone else could actually see me running around the Mourningstar

[obtuse moth]

perfectly playable with gyro aim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gYfAmVMEM if you use flickstick you can hit any direction on your rightstick to turn that many degrees

[frank moat]

And yea typing in a game made me dodge around and strafe like mad

[idle bay]

Yeah.. most likely DFM is too blame in my case. Did not updated it.

[fluid knot]

Yeah im not about to practice 24 hours a day for 5 years on a pad with significantly less precision than a mouse just to get close to the same feeling

[obtuse moth]

gyro is not significantly less precision

to each their own though

[halcyon creek]

To me, the ideal control setup is the left half of a controller, and a numpad-mouse

[fluid knot]

I started PC gaming with that setup actually

Pretty quickly moved to the keyboard though because of binding volume issues

[near wyvern]

No but it is inherently less accurate due to the gyro noise

[viscid fox]

Whats a good build to run with dome? I like dome

[near wyvern]

And on top of that you are supporting it with your hands, where as a mouse is supported by a rigid plane

[obtuse moth]

you can run it with anything. if you want to spam it more get all the cooldown talents

[near wyvern]

Trauma staff with Deimos, keep enemies out the dome and you can build a house in the middle of a horde and Deimos will one shot mutants who try to cruise through

[glossy ember]

people are playing darktide while he's playing minecraft

[idle bay]

An due to how dome works on mutants - you can stun them just by dodging them in the dome. Unless that bug was fixed

[crystal oxide]

Figures my psyker lass gets this beast of a mk7

[maiden cedar]

Anyone else not realise there was art above the skill tree?

[loud garnet]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/yDmwnO

Here spark head

[maiden cedar]

Oh are they new lmao

[crystal oxide]

Pure stock rolls.

Hardron loves psykers evidently.

[halcyon creek]

Embrace the way of the Gunker

good_varlet.gif

[crystal oxide]

Gunna swap to unarmored and Flak and literally outgun the Vets

Until I get suppressed

[idle bay]

Only if you roll guns - if you roll staffs - he beats you with her wooden peg leg and laugh at you

[crystal oxide]

Hadron likes us pyskers. But she likes boolet and lasers more it seems!

[idle bay]

SO far shi bricked every trauma staff i rolled. And i'n 920 hours in

[crystal oxide]

First rolls lmao

[digital narwhal]

I am once again expressing my opinion that Smite should be able to crit.

[thorn cedar]

Wait Riposte is 6 seconds now? >.>

Shit I never noticed

Time to dump Shred, probably

[sharp kraken]

I hope the Psyker will get some of Sienna's staves from vermintide

[crimson remnant]

best blessings on deimos? is bloodthirsty good?

i made this, i just started psyker, dont know much about the blessings.

[iron flame]

Which staff better ?

[crimson remnant]

370 one

[iron flame]

ohhh 360's 80% damage doesn't make too much of a difference ?

[crimson remnant]

14 damage

haha

more charge rate = more damage too

[summer prairie]

it's probably something like 0.03s difference

[crimson remnant]

more attacks per second

[summer prairie]

pretty much same %

[crimson remnant]

the truth is... you will never notice which one you are using if you swap between them

roll both and the perks and blessings will decide which one is better.

lets go.... to sadness

[ornate hamlet]

Karen looks for gun Psykers

[frigid zenith]

Gunpsyker is a meme.

[ornate hamlet]

Karen says you are simply not skilled enough

[frigid zenith]

I didn't say it was bad, just a meme.

[ornate hamlet]

Karen has spoken

[thorn cedar]

Gun is the best Psyker staff

[crystal oxide]

"For her neutral spell, she has a gun"

Jokes aside. My gun psyker with her Vraks VII is.. Just as good a sniper as my Vet. Once I have Disrupt Destiny and Scriers gaze going at full tilt, haven't found a anything human sized that doesnt drop to one in the head

[thorn cedar]

Tbh it's better than X Stance Vet.

That is my firm and non-trolly opinion.

[gleaming belfry]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3056303939 you are a meme

[thorn cedar]

We aren't shoehorned into only using our gun, we get much more survivability options, movespeed boosts. Vet basically only benefits from having a bigger ammo pool. The aura is irrelevant because everyone benefits from the aura.

[crystal oxide]

Yeah, its really liberating. I pull out my rifle because I want to

Its really satisfying to have this vibe of being a warp guided marksman

[frail sand]

you can also make up some whack loadouts too

[thorn cedar]

Not to mention we get the jauntiest hat.

[frail sand]

e.g. u can use bubble shield instead of gaze

and then push gunners while laughing manically

[crystal oxide]

Oh.. OH

[thorn cedar]

Yeah shield is hella strong buuuut I got bored of it lol

[crystal oxide]

Yeah, how to completely ignore supression being your hard counter

But I was getting very in the zone how my gal becomes a melee blender as well with Scrier at full tilt

One tapping trash mobs on Heresy and I think I managed it on damnation

[thorn cedar]

I just hope DD gets its fixes in the next patch.

[frail sand]

what bug does it have again

[crystal oxide]

Also I hope I'm not imagining things, but I noticed Assail missiles still have guidance when I launch then switch to melee?

[thorn cedar]

Like three bugs lol

[frail sand]

idk i like DD for the zoomies, haven't really paid attention to the bugs

[thorn cedar]

Marked target will just randomly shift around sometimes. Bruisers can be marked but are never visibly marked. And sometimes it just doesn't mark anything.

[frail sand]

[thorn cedar]

I still super enjoy it

But when there's fifteen bruisers in a room it's fucking awkward to play roulette like that and especially awkward when you lose

[crystal oxide]

First day as a lvl 30 psyker. Brunt is a good boi

[obtuse walrus]

Hadron

Crush this man's balls

[sage salmon]

i'm at a level 4 psyker

what should i know?

[frail sand]

babi psyker

[sage salmon]

... wanna carry me?

cuz i'm having a really fucking bad time lool

[severe folio]

today thursday, new cosmetic ?

[west stream]

I need to do the shove already

[frail sand]

[west stream]

Is gonna give me like 4 cosmetics lol

I have pretty much everything else

[sage salmon]

the shop resets on thursdays?

[frail sand]

every 2 weeks or something right

[obsidian urchin]

cliffhanger can suck a dick, I've been trying for days now

[frail sand]

relevant pfp

[severe folio]

oh every 2 weeks ?

[crystal oxide]

Not really sure what is best on the voidstrike. Right now it feels like a hybrid missile launcher or plasma gun lol

[frigid zenith]

Get surge.

instead of barrage.

Change crit damage to flak damage.

[hollow jolt]

Can't go wrong with damage

[crystal oxide]

Haven't found one yet alas!

But flak might be a good idea yeah

I noticed it cant quite body shot Scab elites due to their flak

[frigid zenith]

go with a pure voidstrike build.

Enjoy everyhthing being dead everywhere.

[crystal oxide]

Is this stacking on with the fire everywhere?

[frigid zenith]

There is nothing better in this game than the wet crunch sound effect of headshotting with that staff.

Basically left right tree stuff.

[severe folio]

the sound of columnus headshotting

[frigid zenith]

brain burst with wildfire and such.

[frail sand]

brainburst too

[crystal oxide]

Ahhh right

[severe folio]

no bb is not as satisfying

it has to be multiple death

[crystal oxide]

Vraks mkVII has the same sound. It nice

Squishy helmet sounds