#psyker-class

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bleak tulip
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I dont really get why people are this fuckin madge about it but okay whatever

spice veldt
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why would fatshark do this!!!

idle bay
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In my opinion they provide enough quantity of FUN playtime for a game price requested. Anything above is self-inflicted 🙂

potent echo
spice veldt
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time to write a negative review saying "I killed 3 men."

bleak tulip
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low key think they shoulda just not done anything

idle bay
lunar hollow
bleak tulip
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the aquilas were an apology for not getting their shit sorted out for like over a year and delaying the console version Kekw

potent echo
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what an adventure

spice veldt
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yeah fatsharks PR is not there

whole oxide
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I mean, I don't care about it, but surely the outrage could have been predicted a mile off, why would they make such a dumb own-goal ?

bleak tulip
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pc people be like "for me? 🥺 "

potent echo
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maybe they are counting on the good will drawing in more players than placating the madge players

bleak tulip
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and now they get free shit and still bitch

spice veldt
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true

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we're only seeing the outrage but not the sales numbers

bleak tulip
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especially since 13 im sure theyve been selling well

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wouldnt be surprised if the game was in the steam bestsellers again

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and the reviews are mixed

cyan notch
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wait till fatshark guts assail

lunar hollow
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the playercount has shot up dramatically

bleak tulip
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yeah

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which also means internally cosmetics sell

crystal oxide
lunar hollow
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it was "nerfed"

idle bay
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it was burfed

lunar hollow
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in a stupid and borderline meaningless way

bleak tulip
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because holy shit I am so sick of seeing all these krieg mfers

idle bay
crystal oxide
bleak tulip
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vet players are basic

still hearth
crystal oxide
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Which is fair enough.

bleak tulip
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fight me

still hearth
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Just on steam it's gone from about 2k

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To 16k

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That's an insane boost yeah

bleak tulip
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also all the youtube men making videos

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etc

idle bay
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Take in account Xbox players

still hearth
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Yeah Steam doesn't do that

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So it's probably at least double total

frank moat
still hearth
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If we count Steam, Xbox PC and Xbox

bleak tulip
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this isnt even a joke you made

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they literally call em that

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you already know

frank moat
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✋pogryn🤚

bleak tulip
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RED ARROW POINTING AT VET

still hearth
potent echo
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i played with realasianrobot the other day

frank moat
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Honestly I still would have preferred Aquilas, but more on the basis that I think it’s bad practice to be giving any one platform exclusives in the first place

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Now all the Xbox players are gonna feel bad AND the Steam players will continue to whinge

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But I love my fashion so can’t complain too much

real silo
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Is it me or the armor from the pc set look like the level 5 one but in blue?

potent echo
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yea maybe they will make it available for xbox players down the line

frank moat
real silo
full bane
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Yo, looking to run a Laspistol gun psyker setup but I know fuck all about building Psyker, help a sibling out please?

potent echo
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level 30?

full bane
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Yeah

potent echo
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its time to consult the handy dandy

frank moat
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Free Krieg pants is a win I guess

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But yea will probably never wear the chest

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And the helmet is the ugliest of the 4 imo

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I prefer the hooded or even just bald look

severe folio
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man i fukin hate bombers

potent echo
severe folio
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worst fukin unit of all the disabler

real silo
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i can make something extreamly simillar with for the drip, every single free one look like this one

severe folio
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who the fuk wants flame littered everywhere they walk

potent echo
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you can look at the battery gunner build

severe folio
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and out of sight

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out of line

potent echo
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also consult laspistol suggestions

severe folio
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just randomly from any corner of the world

near wyvern
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I am afraid shirtless is not gonna happen. It would have already been implemented if it would.

severe folio
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and throw a fukin molotov into the game

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what a fukin worthless design

full bane
still hearth
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Wdym now

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It's been there for the longest time

full bane
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I don’t frequent Psyker chat KEKW_ogryn

real silo
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choose my psyker, prision pijamas, red armor with thing or sunday sweater with thing

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now you got one in blue

full bane
near wyvern
frank moat
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I still find it weird that they named the Ogryn one after the Necronomicon and not Grimoires

near wyvern
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Ogrimoire?

severe folio
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not as sleak as the other option

frank moat
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The Ogrymoire loregryn

near wyvern
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O'Grimoire

potent echo
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grumogryn

full bane
potent echo
full bane
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But thanks

severe folio
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ah fuk a thammer zealot

near wyvern
severe folio
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wish me luck this run is going to be fukin trampled

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if theres one of these brainfuked thammer zealot

still hearth
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Easy win

frank moat
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ogrins big book of taktiks

severe folio
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for the monst you mean

still hearth
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Ye

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I mean everything else they can just spin around and swing

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Ez

severe folio
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most thammer zealot are as dumb as a fukin rock

near wyvern
frank moat
full bane
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What kind of talent setup would I want to run with Laspistol? What’s the usual for gun psykers?

still hearth
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Scrier + DD

potent echo
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or anything really

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i like smite + shriek + warpsiphon

full bane
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Could I get a full build to try out?

still hearth
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Maybe something like this

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If you want to go full aggro

full bane
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Appreciated

near wyvern
full bane
near wyvern
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DD is dropped so easily

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the major benefit is toughness back, increased awarness and movement speed on the kill

still hearth
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But why Puppet Master

near wyvern
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because you can link coherencies better

still hearth
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I was going to meme about the coherencies

near wyvern
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keeps everyone under choerency bonuses and regaining toughness

still hearth
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But if you get Vet

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That's actually good

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Since you want the ammo

severe folio
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grart

still hearth
severe folio
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great

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we also got a fukin monst smiting psyker

ionic needle
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Wouldn't warp charges be better with scrier? Shorter cd and higher damage in between, also no need to deal with dd

still hearth
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It doesn't

potent echo
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im helping guysss 10% damage pogryn

still hearth
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Work on Scrier

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Enjoy

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Otherwise it would be a decent option, if very costly to go across to it

lunar hollow
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it does work on scrier's actually

still hearth
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And it has 5 nodes instead of 3

lunar hollow
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...if you ult at 100% peril

still hearth
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Thanks Fatshark

lunar hollow
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very useful information i know

potent echo
lunar hollow
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no lmao

ionic needle
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Hahaha that's ridiculous

spice veldt
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you get 1 stack of buffs

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very op

ionic needle
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Why are so many psyker things broken?

still hearth
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The warp is scary

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It's also not a Psyker thing

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Other classes are also broken

ionic needle
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I play all classes and psyker has more bugs than the rest combined

still hearth
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Vet has like 3 broken nodes

potent echo
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kickback had the infinite ammo bug

lunar hollow
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theres a bunch of talents that just do not work properly

still hearth
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Zealot had nodes that didn't even work

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Literally just did nothing

glossy ember
plucky flax
near wyvern
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The thing with coherency is that they can be linked like a chain. Everyone in this picture have full coherency active.

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still hearth
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It's fixed now

plucky flax
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Oh yeah that was patch 13 I think.

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I noticed toughness didn't go up.

still hearth
plucky flax
near wyvern
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which is why Puppet Master is so good

still hearth
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I run big coherency on Vet too

near wyvern
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so easily accessible and good benefits for everyone

still hearth
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And also apparently shout uses coherency range so

plucky flax
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I don't run any cohenrency increase.

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Being selfish in war.

still hearth
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Shelfish in war

plucky flax
lunar hollow
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coherency is for the weak

still hearth
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I had a Vet without ammo aura with an Ogryn and gun Psyker

lunar hollow
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i want a coherency radius decrease talent

still hearth
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And it was as bad as I thought it would be

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They were all red ammo halfway through

ionic needle
plucky flax
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I run loner on zealot I don't need anyone's cohenrency.

still hearth
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Idk why Vets do that

plucky flax
ionic needle
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I don't get why I'd ever not choose ammo aura on vet

still hearth
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Because they are cheap

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And don't want to spend the nodes

plucky flax
still hearth
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You definitely do

plucky flax
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Like my melee vet build. nooooo

still hearth
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Just don't take all the stuff

potent echo
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5% movespeed aura tho

still hearth
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Smh

plucky flax
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Yeah but then I won't get confirmed kill.

still hearth
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Replace something else

plucky flax
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Which is kinda op talent.

still hearth
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You definitely have something you can lose

potent echo
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lose grenade regen probably

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but imagine playing a vet without grenade regen

plucky flax
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I need grenade regen too.

still hearth
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Vet chat also be like "Vet stronger melee than Zeaot"

potent echo
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they arent really wrong

still hearth
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And their argument is that they can two-shot bulwarks

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They are

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Their melee is way worse

potent echo
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just take the stamina regen nodes

lunar hollow
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mk6 psword is bangin

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u stab guys

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they die

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very nice

plucky flax
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I have played melee vet extensively and it's impossible for zealot to be worse at melee.

still hearth
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It's not the regen

lunar hollow
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but like

ionic needle
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Melee vet with confirmed kill

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still hearth
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It's all the fucking buffs

spice oar
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That vanguard bundle psyker outfit looks pretty rad ngl

lunar hollow
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melee vet being better than zealot is a bizarre take

still hearth
bleak tulip
ionic needle
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Love invis though

plucky flax
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Yeah but you lose out grenades regen.

still hearth
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They said its because they have +15% damage to Elites and +25% to Ogryn and Monstrosities and stuff

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Like bruh

lunar hollow
potent echo
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invis is the "i screwed up" button

lunar hollow
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to speed it up

still hearth
real silo
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is +2 stamina blessing the biggest a stamina curio can get?

lunar hollow
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+3

still hearth
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Not improved ones though

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Which gives you stagger immunity

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I bet when they fix that

plucky flax
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Oh yeah the stagger immune.

still hearth
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A lot of melee Vets

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WIll realize

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That their melee

plucky flax
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I run that on melee vet. whatthefuck_heresy

still hearth
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Isn't as good as they think

ionic needle
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It's good for clutching, ressing team mates, repositioning, getting behind shooter lines to suppress them, reloading a slow weapon

still hearth
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Being able to shout tank everything and not be staggered

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Is very different

lunar hollow
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i play melee vet without thy grenade be swift u just abuse shout overshield

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to get into melee with gunners

still hearth
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Yeah it'll be fine

plucky flax
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Dis my melee vet build with ammo aura. RIP confirmed kill and iron will. nooooo

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still hearth
frank moat
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Why are you all talking about Veteran this is Psyker circlejerk

lunar hollow
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stun immunity is never really necessary it just makes the game way more fun because u dont ever have to interact with the worst part of the game

still hearth
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Remove +1 grenade and Ogryn/Boss damage

ionic needle
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Drop bleed on melee and ogryn damage and you got confirmed kill

plucky flax
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Why isn't iron will op?

still hearth
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Also wtf

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Bleed on melee

lunar hollow
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no agile engagement L

plucky flax
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Bleed on melee stack brittleness.

bleak tulip
still hearth
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Wtf you stacking brittleness for

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Use a real weapon??

plucky flax
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For crusher.

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D:

still hearth
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What are you using

frank moat
plucky flax
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I use antax revolver.

still hearth
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So

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You already do

ionic needle
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Run revolver with HC and headshot them

still hearth
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100% damage

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To crushers??

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Why are you using brittleness

potent echo
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antax doesnt need brittleness

plucky flax
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No brittleness increase further.

still hearth
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Barely

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ionic needle
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Yeah by like 1% per point

still hearth
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You also kill them in like 4s

potent echo
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thats like 25% of 2.5% damage per stack

still hearth
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So that's like 8 bleed ticks?

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But yeah drop extra nade

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And you can get confirmed kill

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Iron Will is dumb because it's only like 25-33 extra toughness

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A bit more if you shout

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But if you shout

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And lose all your toughness

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Wtf you doin

ionic needle
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Extra grenade isn't necessary with the regen grenade talent

plucky flax
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This is my normal melee vet build without ammo aura.

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3% damage aura op

bleak tulip
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based

still hearth
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Agent I think

ionic needle
still hearth
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I hate your Vet builds

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More htan I ever hated your Trauma

plucky flax
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Then guys in the team cry "WHY NO AMMO AURA?"

still hearth
plucky flax
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Uuh it's pretty stronk.

still hearth
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This is pretty much what I run for melee Vet

ionic needle
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Not sure why you insist on the extra grenade

plucky flax
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Where's the ogryn damage?

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I LIKE GRENADES

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I THROW IT AT MONSTERS

still hearth
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WHAT IS THE OGRYN DAMAGE FOR

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????

ionic needle
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Shredder grenade is so bad though

plucky flax
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Monster?

still hearth
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How many Ogryns do you see per match

plucky flax
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No I only use krak grenades.

bleak tulip
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I have been bullied into running ammo aura on vet by turnbonerds and vet players, live your dream agent

plucky flax
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Well it's 25% unyielding too though.

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Not just ogryns.

still hearth
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Ye

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But that's just Ogryn and Bosses

plucky flax
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So it's stronk against chaos spawn.

still hearth
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I mean it is

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But those don't matter enough imo

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You could lose coherency size for it I guess

plucky flax
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I run demolition team too. Never coherency radius.

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I need all the nades. sweat_anime

still hearth
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You grenade maniac

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Run the improved crates too

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Get more nades

ionic needle
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Friendly melee vet with ammo aura, shout, ress speed

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bleak tulip
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actually gross

still hearth
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Left Grenade fits well with Plasma

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Krak is basically a waste of time with it

bleak tulip
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but it doesnt make funny dink noise

ionic needle
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It deals no damage

bleak tulip
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and then kill

still hearth
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It deals a fuckton of damage

vagrant hollow
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i rather prefer this one with revolver

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still hearth
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And knocks things away

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So I can res people who die

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Despite my shout

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Somehow

bleak tulip
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why would i want them away

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I want them closer whatthefuck_heresy

potent echo
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people dont take ogryn damage? for real?

still hearth
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Yes

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Why would you

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Ogryns are easy

ionic needle
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I do on my plasma build

bleak tulip
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kill em even gooder

plucky flax
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I always take both ogryn and elite damage on vet.

still hearth
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I need to actually test Iron Will with Shout

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Last time I tested it it felt like it didn't work at all

robust sierra
plucky flax
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How do you mean no work?

robust sierra
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💪💪

still hearth
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As in it didn't give any extra toughness over the 100

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Since Iron Will should work on most of it

ionic needle
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This is another (less friendly) alternative

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still hearth
ionic needle
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Iron will is nice

still hearth
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It's a lie

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People are being decieved

potent echo
bleak tulip
ionic needle
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25-33 toughness on a single node is more toughness on a single node than any other class gets though

bleak tulip
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youre the real loser

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😎

still hearth
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Yeah but

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Only if you stay at the peak of toughness

robust sierra
potent echo
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is 10% attack speed better than iron will though

still hearth
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Yes

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And it's 15%

potent echo
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grumbling noises

still hearth
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I'd take anything over Iron Will

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I'd take +15 toughness over Iron WIll

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Watch me

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I've played Vet without it using only Confirmed Kill and it felt literally the same as when I played with it

bleak tulip
robust sierra
bleak tulip
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its objectively the worst class, no style, no balls, all mald

potent echo
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should take smoke grenade then

frank moat
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I can’t believe my siblings are all filthy roughnecks in disguise

potent echo
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krak grenade sweaty

bleak tulip
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I did kinda like smoke grenades from the mood ngl

spice oar
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Yall think hit and run is good on graia?

still hearth
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Which Graia

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I don't think it matters

plucky flax
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Btw bleed+brittleness help with axe vs monster too.

still hearth
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Since all Graia are bad afaik

robust sierra
plucky flax
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Make bleed stronger and axe heavies stronger.

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So idk why u hate FeelsStrongMan

still hearth
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Why are you using havies on monsters

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The lights have basically the same unyielding damage

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Don't they

plucky flax
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No D:

bleak tulip
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I mean thats what we were talking about yes?

potent echo
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heavy does more but

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the time it takes

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idk how the mef rounds out

robust sierra
plucky flax
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Heavies on plague ogryn's head does big damage.

potent echo
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still less than a duelling4 lol

bleak tulip
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oh you

potent echo
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probably

still hearth
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Heavies do about double damage on Unyielding

plucky flax
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1 hit of antax heavy vs light

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still hearth
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So it should be worth using them ye

spice oar
robust sierra
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@bleak tulip Anyways bro vet has some incredible style points if we are just basing it off that

still hearth
robust sierra
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You gotta try the columnus 5

potent echo
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psykers use it too lol

still hearth
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I assume it's not the Brauto since we're in Psyker

potent echo
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and they use it better

still hearth
spice oar
still hearth
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Yeah but you also didn't answer my question

spice oar
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robust sierra
still hearth
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And I've never seen the Graia being better than the others in any discussion so idk

potent echo
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lmao you cant base your opinions on chocoB

bleak tulip
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I have used columnus, why would i use it over plasma

spice oar
potent echo
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he is an unhinged madman

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who plays true solo

plucky flax
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The christopher columbus gun.

bleak tulip
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clumbumbus can suck it, I got a plasma

robust sierra
bleak tulip
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I dont give a shit how cool you think your crit strings are

robust sierra
bleak tulip
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I know bro im meming

robust sierra
plucky flax
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So exhilarating takedown make you take more damage but I don't like deadshot so I guess I'm stuck with self debuff.

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Thanks fartshart.

robust sierra
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I'm a pretty dogshit psyker anyways from time to time, I just enjoy vet more tbh lol

bleak tulip
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I dont actually think vet is a bad class, just everybody who plays vet is a whiny bitch, sample size: every vet I played with since patch 13

robust sierra
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Fair enough

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I wouldn't necessarily disagree

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Found a lot of those in quick play lol

severe folio
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who need top score when you kill half the total shit they kill

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robust sierra
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When you have a good vet on your team tho it's game over

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Already won

bleak tulip
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Im just happy if they dont randomly fall over in melee and bitch about being left behind (this actually happened on like day 2 of the patch in damnation)

potent echo
bleak tulip
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vet is the new player idiot magnet I swear

robust sierra
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Yeah I think regardless of a build it's important for vets to try a melee vet build to understand how it performs differently than zealot for instance

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Just to understand survivability

robust sierra
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Most common class

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That would be like saying all psykers are stupid cause I saw one blow up from peril once

potent echo
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how to play melee? my dodge is still bound to jump i go down fighting 3 poxwalkers

robust sierra
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Lol

robust sierra
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No mouse buttons staregryn

potent echo
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shift is free real estate

robust sierra
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Shift is sprint

undone carbon
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I have dodge on space, and jump on alt

bleak tulip
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smh

potent echo
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sprint and dodge

bleak tulip
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there is even a penance for it

potent echo
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you cant dodge forward

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you cant sprint sideways

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profit

undone carbon
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remember to block and shove, it helps Greatly

robust sierra
plucky flax
robust sierra
undone carbon
robust sierra
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The amount of times I've seen friends jump around and be like "why am I getting hit???"

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Funniest shit

bleak tulip
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idk just separate the buttons

robust sierra
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Whatever works for everyone

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Everybody's preferences differ

undone carbon
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indeed

robust sierra
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I should change SOME of my keybinds though

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Can't stick to default forever

bleak tulip
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if you dont time dodges correctly on double bind you jump even sideways

potent echo
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with seperate keybinds you can spam dodge like a true scrub KEKW_ogryn

full bane
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Wish I could rebind my dodge button sometimes, but I play on controller so don’t know where it would go

plucky flax
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What's the dodge button on controller?

full bane
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The A button which is also jump

plucky flax
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D:

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So when do you jump and when do you dodge?

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That's so hard.

full bane
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It only jumps if I’m moving forward or if I don’t wait in between dodges

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It’s honestly not that bad, but again sometimes I wish I could separate them

bleak tulip
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(I mostly did this to spam FS crabwalk) Kekw

plucky flax
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What if you want to side jump? Xd

bleak tulip
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I press alt Smiledog

full atlas
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did Hadron ruin this sword?

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potent echo
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that is

summer prairie
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pretty much

potent echo
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0/4 greatness

summer prairie
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keep it and hope they eventually let you reroll/unlock

real silo
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@near wyvern i was reading your steam guide, do you have like a video or something of how you use the voidstrike? I think im playing it wrong and i want to see something who does well

atomic zephyr
#

show us your vopidstrike

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voidstrike

real silo
#

for now this is it

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im working on getting things

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im plasteel poor right now

bleak tulip
#

dont need cara imo, and youre likely working towards getting surge

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besies that thats the right idea

atomic zephyr
# real silo

ok, transfer peril is not the one to use with nexus

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flurry is better

mossy canopy
#

Or surge

atomic zephyr
#

if you want to use nexus, get surge

bleak tulip
#

nexus is locked likely because theyre going for surge nexus

potent echo
#

void you usually want to go to a chokepoint

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funnel the enemies tight

real silo
#

full charge shoots?

bleak tulip
#

depends on what youre shooting

potent echo
#

also because of its range, you should engage from far away

bleak tulip
#

for elites yes

still hearth
#

Swap Transfer for Flurry though

atomic zephyr
#

but even then i use surge with flurry. and just use the guaranteed crit on 5 weakspot hits talent

still hearth
#

For now

bleak tulip
#

some specials yes

potent echo
#

fully charged shots can only kill shotgunners on non-crit headshot

bleak tulip
#

trash, half charge is plenty, yo ucan get away with less

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line em up knock em down

potent echo
#

you need flak to kill scab gunner

real silo
still hearth
potent echo
mossy canopy
#

I'm personally a fan of Transfer peril with Surge and relying on the 5 weakspot guarenteed crit talent

atomic zephyr
still hearth
#

I mean you want Surge

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But flurry is easier to get

bleak tulip
#

transfer is comfy but very unecessary especially if you go for warp charges

summer prairie
#

you just trigger surge way less by relying on just true aim

still hearth
#

Especially with warp nexus

real silo
#

so nexus and flurry or surge

still hearth
#

Warp Nexus and Transfer Peril don't go well together

summer prairie
#

if you are fighting a group of armored elites you trigger it once maybe and then it does nothing

real silo
#

il try to get both so i can test

bleak tulip
#

if you have surge, its like 100 times better than flurry

atomic zephyr
bleak tulip
#

flurry is just the "in the meantime" thing

still hearth
#

Idk about 100

potent echo
#

99?

atomic zephyr
#

id say they are equal

bleak tulip
#

its called hyperbole vanessa

#

come on

still hearth
#

The thing with Surge is that it can be wasted

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You can't waste Flurry

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It's always an upside

bleak tulip
#

it usually isnt wasted lets be real

still hearth
#

Sometimes Surge adds nothing but the oneshots on Crushers are funny

bleak tulip
#

you dont have 100 cleave and unless youre shooting at a single thing habitually you aint wasting

potent echo
#

actually it sometimes is, because a crit ball will kill a dreg gunner per say, then the second one does nothing

left mirage
#

this guys a fuckin phony

image.png
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no surge or smite

potent echo
#

what

bleak tulip
#

make it work like plasma left click

left mirage
#

he's just using trauma and brain rupture smh

potent echo
#

yea literally the worst loadout psyker can have

left mirage
#

im not calling it shit

potent echo
#

smh my head

left mirage
#

im calling his rp shit

bleak tulip
#

if he has a good trauma he could be bringing no blitz and he'd still do work

atomic zephyr
hollow jolt
bleak tulip
#

and its very unlikely your team is killing shit 50 meters that way you just shot and still hit something if you positition properly

hollow jolt
#

Voidstrike bad, need bigger number

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Fatshark pls buff UwU

bleak tulip
#

its not like youre doing advanced calculus you just line yourself up with the most enemies and you very rarely miss or waste surge in my experience

atomic zephyr
bleak tulip
#

okay but how is this a surge specific issue

atomic zephyr
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its not

bleak tulip
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okay

atomic zephyr
#

im just saying if you miss

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its wasted

bleak tulip
#

glad we cleared that up

glossy ember
#

hit or miss, i guess u never miss, huh

atomic zephyr
#

he just enjoys voidstrike

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i enjoy the trauma that others give me

real silo
#

So im looking at a build for voidstrike, came up with this for using true aim. looks ok?

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bleak tulip
#

take warp rider

potent echo
#

top third looks questionable but sure you can find succes with that

atomic zephyr
#

looks fine to me, but why not the warp peril

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?

potent echo
#

no pc, no pt, no ss

bleak tulip
#

top left two talents are amazing and you should run em on basically every staff build

atomic zephyr
#

with the guaranteed crit, don't really need the top crit chance as much

real silo
#

soulstealer and quietitud?

bleak tulip
#

perilous

potent echo
#

soulstealer and perilous combustion

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also perfect timing is free damage

real silo
#

oh

bleak tulip
#

more like this, if you still have toughness issues thats a skill issue you can take quietude

image.png
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the rest is pretty bad

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also assail recharge time is overkill right now you get em back so fast already

glossy ember
potent echo
#

pygex likes chance to 10% quell

hollow jolt
#

Also the peril gain is so high I usually don't get the regen as well

potent echo
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i hate it though

bleak tulip
#

I mean especially if youre running nexus you dont want that

potent echo
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let me edge harder

bleak tulip
#

and then take warp rider down in the middle

image.png
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thats the main complaints I would have

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(crit rate aura is kinda meh too)

bleak tulip
atomic zephyr
bleak tulip
#

its just free damage

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alawys take it

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every build

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even gun

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and its basically free

real silo
atomic zephyr
#

i should on a trauma blaze build, makes more sense since i keep the nexus at 80% for crit

real silo
#

im on something like this right now

bleak tulip
#

I dont get warp battery so you can save a point thre

atomic zephyr
#

i'll be high peril all build anyways

real silo
bleak tulip
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then again I dont run any talents for assail anymore

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up to you

atomic zephyr
#

with voidstrike, i see no point of assail in general

hollow jolt
# real silo

God I wish assail could get Psykinetic Aura (elite kills give cooldown)

real silo
#

yeah i know im trying to make something of assail

atomic zephyr
#

its just a point to bridge the talent tree

bleak tulip
#

its kinda nice when too much spread shooters are in front of you and your team's slacking

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mostly I just ran it becase I didnt like smite and BB is bad

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now I run smite

atomic zephyr
#

i just dome and pick them apart with the VS

bleak tulip
#

also toughness regen for free

real silo
#

tried BB to do the penance and it was pain.

bleak tulip
#

but you can also just void for that in close range

atomic zephyr
#

smite is a oh shit mechanic. BB is still good on bosses

glossy ember
#

my biggest issue with warp rider is that there's never a reason to not take it. There's no build that doesn't want it.

like, why is it so powerful

bleak tulip
#

probably buggy

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idk

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I feel like its not meant to be 10-20

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but it is Kekw

glossy ember
#

yea

potent echo
#

the old warp rider was 10-25%

hollow jolt
still hearth
#

Yeah it always was 10% base

glossy ember
#

damn

bleak tulip
#

I just mean via the description

glossy ember
#

working as intended then

bleak tulip
#

old description said it was 10-25

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this one doesnt

still hearth
#

Yeah but that's normal

bleak tulip
#

making me think it was meant to be different

still hearth
#

Don't think that

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A lot of things do that

bleak tulip
#

well yeah

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but I expected them to at least keep ambiguities not add more

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I know, high hope

still hearth
#

Lmao

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Yeah

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That's a high bar

real silo
potent echo
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i'll drop 6 charges for perfect timing

hollow jolt
#

"6 charge" confident aren't you UwU

still hearth
#

Using left side walls

potent echo
#

also yea you cant consistently get 6 charges

still hearth
#

Ew

potent echo
#

left side wall is chadgryn

still hearth
#

Left Side wall is just worse tho

potent echo
#

yea..

glossy ember
hollow jolt
#

Left side is like for maelstrom and basically not much else

still hearth
#

The only thing it's specially good against are bursters and dogs

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Nah

glossy ember
#

or double charge on wall

still hearth
#

The dome is just

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Way better

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In 99% of the situations

potent echo
#

PC is very good on void

hollow jolt
still hearth
#

It negates most specialists already

potent echo
#

voidstaff

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i think

bleak tulip
hollow jolt
#

Ah

real silo
potent echo
#

how

glossy ember
hollow jolt
glossy ember
#

i'm experimenting without pc these days tho

bleak tulip
real silo
#

guess il try to do without mind in motion

glossy ember
#

unless you're constantly quelling, you won't feel the loss of mind in motion

bleak tulip
#

I sure didnt

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used to have it on my assail void

glossy ember
#

since if you're quelling mid fight you'll be dodge sliding anyway

bleak tulip
#

now I dont and I dont even fuckin feel it Kekw

glossy ember
#

imo mind in motion is very niche. It's great if you run a scrier staff build (or maybe force sword?) but otherwise ehhh

potent echo
#

can you sprint while quelling though

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with mind in motion

bleak tulip
#

uhh I dont think so?

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never actually tried Kekw

glossy ember
#

you just don't have the slowdown

bleak tulip
#

quellings so fast now that you dont even have time to sprint

glossy ember
#

but it's nice cuz you get to move super fast with scrier movement speed and or mettle

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it's playable without ofc

potent echo
#

i cant think of any play where you need to move and quell often

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unless you are quelling all the way to 0

glossy ember
#

staff scrier

potent echo
#

yea i guess

glossy ember
#

that's the only one i can think of

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also the fact that it's the least worst option for yourself (but not your team) if staff scrier. Cooldown reduction isn't useful for scrier and you won't use malefic momentum if you're using a staff.

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but as i said

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niche

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who the fuck even plays staff scrier

potent echo
#

maybe if they gave it DR while quelling

glossy ember
#

ooo that'd be neat

potent echo
#

something funny

glossy ember
#

i'd like that

potent echo
#

positive movespeed on quell

glossy ember
potent echo
#

hey that would be sick af

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quelling is now a parry window

glossy ember
#

yeah thatd be neat

glossy ember
heady garnet
#

I've been running warp flurry and surge on my voidstaff, but I've always been a fan of transfer peril. Any thoughts on if being able to shoot more before quelling is good or is my current setup ok

potent echo
#

wheres our resident fatshark dev, please take notes loregryn

glossy ember
#

who needs devil claw

heady garnet
#

Staff in question

glossy ember
#

staff parry like you're playing phantasy star online 2

atomic zephyr
# heady garnet

flurry/surge is fine, you can tap your quell really fast anyways. with the 5 weakspot guarantee crit talent, you will be able to use surge fine.

#

i use that on my VS

heady garnet
#

Yeah I'm taking that

atomic zephyr
#

i prefer flurry over nexus

frigid zenith
#

did you guys know that gunpsyker is a meme?

heady garnet
#

I feel like I have a lot of crit already, though after switching transfer peril to surge I've been quelling a LOT more

atomic zephyr
#

is it?

potent echo
#

yes

#

gunpsyker bad

#

play vet

frigid zenith
#

Right?

potent echo
#

definitely

heady garnet
#

I wanted to give DD a shot because I thought it was overall more damage compared to warp charges but I was struggling to maintain stacks

atomic zephyr
heady garnet
#

You're def right, still wanted to try it

potent echo
#

its okay for assail/void

heady garnet
#

learned my lesson lol

atomic zephyr
#

i either use psionics or the wrap charges only. o almost never touch that side of the tree exccept for the crit talent

glossy ember
#

kinetic deflection is nice too

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and the movement speed node pog

atomic zephyr
pearl plaza
#

siblings, how would you build a purgatus staff?

atomic zephyr
#

flurry/nexus

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some say flurry/focus channel

pearl plaza
#

I have flurry and run n' gun, it's honestly kinda neat

atomic zephyr
#

just make sure the burn and cloud is high, like about 75-77 to get max burn stacks

glossy ember
atomic zephyr
glossy ember
#

i see

atomic zephyr
pearl plaza
#

what about perks?

glossy ember
#

peril control is important so that's fair

atomic zephyr
#

honestly the manic/flak works fine. Not too sure if unyielding still does a lot to bosses

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haven't really touched purg since the whole talent tree rework

pearl plaza
#

seems like maniac/ flak is the gold standard for most things

atomic zephyr
atomic zephyr
glossy ember
#

Are you running block efficiency on curios as a substitute as well like me or nah?

atomic zephyr
#

purg boss dmg has always seemed weak, so idk if it's useful, worked great on my zealot flamer

atomic zephyr
glossy ember
#

damn

atomic zephyr
#

i just use ally res, toughness, hp, combat regen, gunn resist

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im more of a dodge player than a block player

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i rather dance

glossy ember
atomic zephyr
#

i dont use force swords either, unless i pick up blood thirtsy on a force sword, i probably won't bother

#

i rather use chainsword/duel sword

glossy ember
#

personally there's occasions where i'd rather save dodges and just block.

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but yeah it's situational

potent echo
#

block also staggers them, but yea situational

atomic zephyr
#

block gets me into a bad habit.

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and block doesn't save you against the heavy hitters like crusher and maulers

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or the carapace dudes

glossy ember
#

that's what i'm saving the dodges for

potent echo
#

oh im more of a primary dodger now coming back around to blocking

glossy ember
#

block the smallies dodge the biggies

potent echo
#

sometimes you dont need to dodge everything

glossy ember
#

or at least i'm trying to get that habit

atomic zephyr
#

in a mixed crowd, its easy to lose sight of them. so i just dodge spam

glossy ember
atomic zephyr
#

i think if i build a catachan parry sword, i'll start with the blocking

atomic zephyr
quartz barn
#

just dodge everything with DS thumbsup_ogryn

heady garnet
#

@atomic zephyr it is pretty mid, when there's a monstrosity my strategy is stack flames all the way>BB spam

atomic zephyr
potent echo
#

uncanny + soulblaze does great stuff

quartz barn
#
  • if you slide dodge you can just ignore everything anyway
atomic zephyr
heady garnet
#

I agree

potent echo
heady garnet
#

Every weapon has a pretty solid niche when I appreciate

#

@potent echo you're def right regarding uncanny but im such a fucking liability in melee when it comes to bosses

#

Get knocked around a lot

idle bay
#

We can petition to make Purgatus fire more trasparent by default for the team (with no mods).

potent echo
#

practice in psyk KEKW_ogryn

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its about baiting bosses into a pattern, are there any boss tutorials at all

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something like this

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timestamped accordingly

queen fog
#

Noice, I was gonna suggest practice makes perfect but if u find more vids like that it might help a lot

heady garnet
#

It's definitly my weakspot, I'll check out the video when i have time

#

in between classes rn kek

quartz barn
#

ngl only monstrosity that you might need a guide on is the dh

queen fog
#

Considering how aggressive CS is

quartz barn
#

ogryn only has 3 attacks, for spawn you just stay in mid range and get him to swing the person if they get grabbed

potent echo
#

spawn has an exploit for solo

broken quail
#

Plague ogryn loses to dodge spam anyways. Beast of hurtle at least has area denial corruption discouraging getting too close for too long

quartz barn
#

and for glubby you just put a bubble over him so his ai breaks 🙂

heady garnet
#

regarding nurgle blob

atomic zephyr
potent echo
#

if you hug it, it will only do arm slam

#

i think it was made even easier in patch13/14

quartz barn
#

which gets blocked and doesnt leave a trail

broken quail
bleak tulip
#

doesnt this ignore the fact that itll just deaggro after a few attacks?

#

either that or based on damage taken, assuming your team is shooting it too that would also happen

broken quail
#

If your fast enough just chase it down when it switches targets. Dueling sword hours

potent echo
#

yea it will switch targets, but if it is on you, hug it as tight as possible

#

lets your team dps it down too

#

people who run away from Cspawn makes the boss more tough than it actually is because the team needs to chase lol

queen fog
#

Had to use alot of ammo to reagro it to us lol

bleak tulip
#

it is if you know how to fight plogryn or played vt2 but

#

yknow

scenic crescent
#

What blitz does everyone like with gunsyker?

digital narwhal
#

Smite should be able to crit

glossy ember
#

wonder why only assail is allowed to crit

potent echo
#

yea but tide games are mainly about the funky arcane knowledge that unironically gives it complexity

whole oxide
glossy ember
#

and not all three

heady garnet
iron flame
#

Is this voidstrike staff worth spending mats on ?

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atomic zephyr
potent echo
#

the answer is no KEKW_ogryn

iron flame
#

how much percent should i be aiming

potent echo
#

big

atomic zephyr
#

70%

#

the higher the bellet

iron flame
#

ahhh ok

atomic zephyr
#

its basically a gun

iron flame
#

How about other stats ?

atomic zephyr
#

better'

potent echo
#

you want 80%

iron flame
#

Can i ignore them or something ?

atomic zephyr
#

charge and blast is a must

potent echo
#

oh yes time for another arcane knowledge

still hearth
#

Blast radius is dump

potent echo
#

the higher the base rating, the more chance you get T4 perks/blessings

still hearth
#

It's a void not trauma

atomic zephyr
#

warp and quell usually is dump stats, but i'd say warp is a slightly higher priority because of the charge

potent echo
#

so if you wanted to upgrade a weapon, the higher base stats the better

iron flame
#

Soo this one is pretty good or something already ?

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potent echo
#

so you technically cant ignore them

still hearth
whole oxide
atomic zephyr
still hearth
#

Ideal Void is 80 in everything 60 blast radius

iron flame
#

Yea T_T i am pretty sure i got that like all the way back when i was like lvl 29 or something

still hearth
#

But you can also just dump blast radius to 0 tbh

#

It has barely any impact

potent echo
atomic zephyr
potent echo
#

if you aim at the lip, you can hit heads

atomic zephyr
#

i never tested it with or without balst

whole oxide
#

damage = charge > warp-res > blast > quell

still hearth
atomic zephyr
potent echo
#

i think its the radius that catches the head behind the cover

#

so maybe 1%

still hearth
#

You need to be like super close for the blast to ever do damage

#

So idk

iron flame
#

Had been using buy until rating mod. Guess I will take out the auto sell at least

potent echo
#

its not the blast, but like the ball itself will go pass the cover, but still hit whatever is behind

#

if that makes sense

still hearth
#

But blast radius doesn't change ball size?

atomic zephyr
#

also helps when shooting into horde, some enemies have different heights, so you can shoot multiple weakspots with a bigger blast i think

potent echo
#

i think it does?

#

might be tripping

still hearth
#

It doesn't say it does

atomic zephyr
#

lol, idk, i've seen vids where people build with a higher blast req, so maybe

still hearth
#

I'll test it

#

Eventually

potent echo
#

i've heard some from someone that it does KEKW_ogryn might be fake news

atomic zephyr
still hearth
#

I recall it being discussed before the updates

#

And then we all agreed it didn't affect the ball size

potent echo
#

i probably missed that discussion

still hearth
#

It's difficult to test if it only does something to cover though

#

It was a long time ago

#

I did testing on voidstrike to see if radius did anything

potent echo
#

but the ball size and the wall collision does overlap somehow

#

is that just fatshark

bleak tulip
#

arco said blast radius increases the projectile size or something

#

thats all I know

#

in my experience it basically doesnt matter so I just always went with blast being dump

still hearth
#

Interesting

#

So it might be worth it in some situations

bleak tulip
#

if anything smaller projectile sometimes helps in others its worse

#

my staff has 80 and I can sort of shoot between heads

#

maybe thats different if youre on 60 but i kinda doubt its noticable

potent echo
#

afaik trauma circle also lies to you

#

it doesnt draw the actual aoe

idle bay
#

I wonder about aim-assists xbox players get.. and how it can be ... approached for PC players....

bleak tulip
#

yeah the aoe is much bigger and the epicenter smaller KEKW_ogryn

#

the circle is more of a suggestion

potent echo
#

just like a crosshair but on the floor

#

idk if i'll trust any kind of aim assist programmed by fatshark

bleak tulip
#

the few clips of console gameplay ive seen seemed to really struggle with keeping awareness, didnt see much aim assist going on

potent echo
#

imagine taking 2 whole seconds to check behind you

idle bay
#

Slow turning is just painful to see....

bleak tulip
#

more console games need a 180 instant turn

idle bay
#

Remind me of 90's and using keayboard for looking instead of mouse.

potent echo
#

does darktide have one

bleak tulip
#

dont think so

potent echo
#

rip

bleak tulip
#

I was more thinking like RE 4

#

just for console fps

potent echo
#

considering that two of their specials run right past you (mutant/hound) you would think they have it

bleak tulip
#

so at least you can have more control

potent echo
#

RE 4 is designed that enemies dont rush behind you

#

and even they have a quick turn

bleak tulip
#

yeah

idle bay
#

I remember Killone 2 on PS3 where aiming was deliberately made nearly impossible

#

even if FragFX mouse for PS3 was used

full bane
#

Can I be Spark’Ead now? I have dueling sword and everything

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onyx sentinel
#

Is the vanguard bundle set for psyker a recolour of the old penances armor? The collar area looks similar

umbral helm
#

Ogryns trying to be other classes reminded me I had a mission where an Ogryn with a bowl cut and wearing rags joined named "OverweightZealot"

spice oar
atomic zephyr
spice oar
full bane
#

I put a dueling sword blade on a mk4 cleaver

#

It fits very well

spice oar
#

what do you think of my knife?

image.png
umbral helm
#

backstabbing with a blunt object, like Dark Souls. just goes right through their chest

spice oar
kind jay
spice oar
full bane
#

Turning blunt weapons into bladed weapons is a favorite activity of mine

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spice oar
umbral helm
#

wonder what a staff with a chain axe on the end of it would look like

frank moat
#

My Deimos and Trauma staff from yesterday

frail sand
#

gun psyker is so fun wtf

kind jay
frank moat
umbral helm
frail sand
#

also stealing all their ammo KEKW_ogryn

umbral helm
#

if they're running survivalist they generally are my ammo supply. Vraks is pretty ammo efficient

frail sand
#

i ran columnus KEKW_ogryn

ionic sorrel
umbral helm
#

I was told columnus is pretty fun but I've yet to build one. might at some point