#psyker-class
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Other than liking the weapon.
okay fine i'll take flak in place of cara
The only nonflak elites (for purg) are dreg rager and ogryns
Soulbaze is doodoo against cara.
Unless you do uncanny shenanigans but that's rather niche
yup
Also keep in mind where on the enemy you're hitting. For your non-aim channels, it's the chest. Which on many of the elites will be flak.
What does that mean?
M2 of purg, surge, and trauma hit the chest.
It's not really chest, it's just a "explosion/dot" modifier
Clear example is reapers, they have flak chest but count as unyielding for dot and explosion
Quick question, what kind of Psyker Melee weapon fits this outfit? (I wish we could get soulblaze on the dueling sword)
best example
But that doesn't affect soulblaze damage
reapers will get hit for unyielding
You aim at mauler head and still soulblaze will use flak modifier for maulers
Mauler, gunners, shot gunners, scab ragers will all be flak with M2 on purg, surge, and trauma.
Other weapons have to deal with unarmored dreg gunner heads :🤮
RIP
Good or bad stats? I've never really used Dueling swords before
and then there's void that does this bullshit
The roll was really bad 
its fine
I've noticed that so much since Patch 14
It's what's caused me temporarily to step away from Voidstrike
I mean it being flak is more of an advantage
its just weird
you dont wanna run cara on it anyway
its just.... not how its meant to work
wtf
It's more acceptable than it was
no you dont understand
void right click weakspots are flak on maulers
ignore the crits
Wait even if it hits the head?
Oh that
Lmao
I hit the head every time there
true aim stacks go up, crosshair indicator etc
flak tho
Well that's great 
It's because the hit detection is lower than the middle of the projectile
First contact is made with the flack chest
True aim stacks
If you aim high enough you get cara
So void ball is explosion
nope
Why are you on this hill 
I tried this multiple times now
Im not trying to prove anything its just an oddity I noticed the other day 
I thought it hit the chest as well before thats why I tested it again today
Can't other explosives headshot actually
what two perks do I want on purgatus? flak and infested? flak and unarmored?
Flak and Maniac imo for mixed rager hordes
Flak + crit chance /maniac (ragers and their thicc hp)
I forgor, does void have blazing spirit
what's SB?
soulblaze
There is a case for unyielding if that's your thing
I see
reee i've never gotten kicked before and now i got kicked in games back to back
its not proccing as cara cause its not counting as a headshot
okay but then why does true aim get a stack
i dont know what to tell you
so should I put crit and flak on this then?
now I want to craft a blazing void even though i have a surge void already
for some reason void is incapable of hitting maulers in the head it seems
which id call an actual buff honestly
it staggers them more when you hit them in the head though 
you absolutely can
Does it explode on them
so what's the dump stat then
warp resist quell speed and damage iirc
you can lose out on those a bit and be perfectly fine
ive litterally tried every single angle possible and its entirely impossible to land a headshot on the mauler with void
Does it explode
thats just strange
Cloud radius 80
Burn 76+
anything else is extra
are you not seeing my video?
yes
That's why
I like how. After so long. All my builds on the classes just turn into
“Gun”
I mean it does show the marker
Explisions are weird
Plasma also hits for flak on maulers regardless of where you aim. Idk if it's counting as weakspot though
thats what im tellin ya
LOL. Just tried to buy a white to see if I like the weapon. Forgot to turn off roll until raity mod.
Ops
you get a weakspot marker, you get true aim stacks, when you charge more on head it full staggers them vs chest hits where it just light staggers
but it counts as flak
because fatshark?
i turned my reactive crosshairs on and the hits are being counted as headshots by the crosshairs, and clearly as headshots by true aim.......but not by the maulers in psykanium
might just be a psykanium bug
Explosions
oh i am getting the crosshair indicator
Explosions are weird
Yeah same issue with plasma gun
its gotta be the psykanium health bars
I guess one way to make sure is see if flak damage perk does anything
Lowkey wish Blazing Spirit wasn't tied to crits so I could run it with Rending Shockwave without sacrificing chance to proc with no Warp Nexus.
im gonna go into a mission real quick to shoot a mauler in the head
yeah but then they would have to throttle the fuck out of it some other way
which they would inevitably fuck up
IS this useable on a specific build or should I just extract one of the blessings ?
Dats a good lookin sword right there
Blazing Spirit is mostly for funny flame memes rn
At least on swords
It's for memes. Fire swords is for silly fun times. You could keep it for something different.
Trauma force staff is ass right?
It's good, but a lot of people don't like.
It isn't the easiest to use and is a pain to build
I like it 
not to mention allies keep telling me it blinds them worse than purg
it's ass by comparison to other staves imo. It's not a bad weapon. Just by comparison.
even though i'm not using it close range
We're 100% getting a 2h Force Sword if that's in the files-
My god, look at the size of that blade.
I burnt a lot of plasteel thinking it was a different staff 
A force flail would be nice. Like the one sienna has in VT2.
fire dagger 🥲
um
well i went into a mission
and well
i wasnt able to headshot a mauler with anything actually
....
dafuq fatshark
Its certainly starting to look that way aye. And a double barrel human shotgun
The models for which look tight as fuck
Bolt Pistol, too
We already know about other Force Staff Variants in the files, too
Content drought is finally over?!
I know for a fact you can still throw em over with what should be headshots so uhh

and they dont fall over if you just chest shot em
im hitting them in the head with a force sword
and im not getting headshots
wat
in mission
I need to see footage of this
???
but yeah voidstrike isnt proccing headshots in mission either
i need a bold pistol in my life now
as if they will get a bolter to psyker
i know better than to get my hopes up
Yea I can't see it happening
Psykers have been known to use Bolt Pistols tbf
Not Godwyn-Pattern Bolters, but... at least Bolt Pistols.
So I just hope we get it, too.
hope we get infernus pistols at some point
i wanna melt through some shields and shit
though that might be outside the power level for darktide
yoo thats actually sick
Maybe we'll get a content drop before Christmas
It'd certainly be a good idea for them
It's been a while since the last Content Drop if you don't count the Skill Trees
Aye, well they probably have the manpower to actually do so now the lions share of the team isnt gonna be working on console version ney more
I seriously doubt it was a majority of the team working on the console port tbh
I will give FS one thing. The Class Overhaul patch came with some serious optimizations and I have no idea what they changed to make my [ptatp gain so much but I'm grateful for it. I can actually do better in missions now
It wouldnt surprise me ngl mate
Like contractual obligations to MS, a time limit... yeah that could take up a lot of bodies
What if they had like... 2 guys on it for the past year

Bullied 2 poor dudes into porting the game to console
Maybe use the BP calculator?
and obvoiusly the groaners/pox has to go
If i was in their position i would have handed in my notice 
But hey, maybe staff turnover is why it took so long 
Melta and plasma are standard issue special weapons for guardsmen squads, so is the lascannon
I mean, if we look at VT2, it took them like a whole year to get something substantial out, and then patches n' content started flowing.
Hopefully that's the case with DT
and we're at the point of more rapid updates.
if you guys dont mind me asking, what are the best blessings for the deimos sword?
VT2 wasn't a live service though
currently have this
Its certainly starting to look like it yeah
They aren't leaking money every month paying for servers
So they need more engagement so people buy more cosmetics
Yay or nay? The damage looks horrible
just upgraded it to this, is precog any good?
Precog is fine too, just upgrade and see what you get
got super lucky
Scrolls up
with uncanny

lol
Blessing anchor is slaughter and perk anchor is maniac.
The rest is up to you. deflector of defence. Uncanny or unstable for damage
I think this is the luckiest I got in so long
could replace precog with slaughterer, not sure
Slaughterer if you plan to horde clear with it, but with such a roll I probably won't touch precog
yeah I think I'll stick with precog
I would
cause im not gonna hordeclear
I run it on my smite build so hordes I just smite
what about perks? keep carapace?
it's better than stam that's for sure
Carapace is ok, Deimos doesn't really struggle for breakpoints I think
You don't need maniac to poke mutants oneshot
yeah that was just off the consecrate
haven't changed yet
yeah maniac I don't think I need
so I could switch stamina to like
So usually I go unyielding
Flak like everything dies anyway
ye
Slaughter not just for horde, but if you have another peril generating option, unstable is good.
Deimos can chain to special to build peril quickly.
mutie
You can oneshot without
the bread and butter of deimos
I think Ill do carapace and unyielding cause I'll be using it on big targets anyways
And mauler head is carapace so flak not super important
Yea that would work
You can test scab gunner but I think it should easily oneshot
Without flak
as for the illisi, what do you guys think?
this is my current
I could try to get that souleblaze one
I forget what it's called
You could, but
I can't unbuffed H2 one-tap a Mutie without +25% Mutants 😫
I run illisi completely opposite to deimos, on my BB build where I need hordeclear melee
Headshot?
Ye
With high damage and first target, I think the min needed is 20% maniac. Get that maniac
I had been running Maniac, just swapped it out to test based on what they were talking about
My Deimos doesn't have maniac and it can, I mean depends on your damage rolls I guess
I'll have to check again 
This can't one shot with the heavy 2 on it's own without extra maniac damage.
No stacks or buffs from blessing or talent tree I mean.
There's warp rider too giving 10% extra damage if you have that
Yup. Always take that.
Oh true I do
This did not use warp wrider
On 28 of October I was testing and it oneshot mutants without +mutant 🤔
Didn't take a video though
What kind of buff would you design to make purge feel better?
Double zombie spawns 
I think purg is already pretty strong, I will welcome any buffs though
Removing max stacks for example 
Make shotgunners suppressable, is the other thing
They just walk through purg and blast you not cool
Might have been meat grinder stacking talents after switching.
Sometimes damage is fiddly in there.
Maybe I'm poopoo 
So this sword also can't H2 one shot on its own.
Warp rider fixes that issue tho.
I mean same. 
Also yes, the illisi skin on a deimos constantly confuses me too.
do you have that mod to hadron craft while not being at her?
Yea, maybe that was it
if you remove mutant from it but you're still in the psykhanium it won't update right away, you have to leave and come back
I only know cause syllogism figured that out this morning and had the same thing happen to him
😭
Watched a few vids on the potential of gun psyker, does it actually work as well as advertised? Having almost constant 30% ish crit chance up?
You can do this. #psyker-class message
yeah it's pretty good right now in general. you can make anything work but the popular ones are columnus, laspistol, and revolver it seems like
Gun Psyker works quite well.
I'm quite fond of Revolver and Columnus IAG for Gun Psyker.
It got me curious, because I found out the magic of making a very effective crit Vraks VII reliably 6 shot even Damnation Crushers to the head
But looking at the stats on gun pysker, then get even more crit uptime
Columnus crit string with true aim gives you 100% crits if you can full auto into weakspots
at all
So wanted to know if that's possible or not
We all had to leave the game
And with empathic that's a little crazy ngl
Can still run assail for trash clear too yeah?
This game works as intended
I had that once, sometimes you join a game and they spawn you before the elevator, while the rest of the team already took the elevator
Yeah assail good
Or does using Gaze lock out assail.
Theres another bug I keep running into where a warp battery spawns in a box for the nearby medicae station
Illisi and dclaw still exist and whatnot
Gaze doesn't lock assail
Excellent.
I might actually make a psyker char proper and run with em
They are all right side
Something satisfying about being a proper rifleman mage lol
I would take smite because assail gun really overlaps
Until the day psyker gets bolter or smth
I can definitely see bolter assail
Why I'm going to see about getting a Vraks mkVII
What blitz do you use?
For dealing with Carapace heads with its good crit damage
Revolver probably would work really well too come think of it
Revolver 2 shots crushers, *with handcannon
Assail with Revolver, Smite with Columnus IAG.
I usually use a Combat Axe or Duelling Sword as my melee.
With Revvy, I use Scrier's Gaze, and with Columnus IAG, I use the Venting Shriek (along with Creeping Flames and Warp Siphon for looping it)
I've been having fun with Assail, revolver, and dueling sword.
I like smite+creeping for gunker
Space pirate build.
Gives you the horde killing you lack
The illisi, deimos, or both?
the deimos I'm using on my smite build to deal with single targets and armoured targets since I have the smite for hordecleatr
hordeclear*
illisi opposite, using for bb build and assail build for better hordeclear and using psykinetics for single/armoured targets
The smell must be horrendous
Keyword being loads huh
I channel it into the warp, the daemons can suffer the smell

No regrets

yeah I just dont have a good dueling sword yet
deimos is fun regardless though, does the trick
I don't play my psyker all too often anyways lol
I still gotta figure out my staffs
maybe you could help me with my staffs
?
got a mission be back soon
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 is this a good guide? I see a lot of comments saying the curio part is wrong
afaik a little outdated
The comments are outdated*
The guide is updated to patch 14
The guide itself has very good information like how wildfire works etc, but I would take the build recommendations as such, since playstyle differs for everyone
Very much that.
Like sniper resist. Having it can help with not getting fecking wrecked by one shot.
But if you never get sniped, there is no point.
If you find yourself taking chip damage vs not, etc.
I'm blind just saw he added a section adressing the comments
Was it about toughness regen
yeah
btw anyone know which mod this is?
I assume numeric UI but I can't find a setting for toughness
Hud manager i think
Or whatever it's called
The one that lets you change your hud
Might be wrong but i think that lets you change how peril looks
Wait thats toughness
what does 'impact' do?
Think its still the same mod
Stagger
ah
Wait actually
@spice veldt double check me on this
I forget if power or impact is stagger
Crosshair hud
I think
Power is damage + cleave + stagger
thanks
Google says it's stagger.
Just got a sword with double T4 stagger boosts... here's hoping it's decent lol
Mostly the comments are wrong tbh
I wouldn't trust google, alot of misinformation everywhere
But in that case it is correct
Impact is stagger, power is dmg, cleave and impact
All together
AH. so hadron really bricked this weapon then huh
damn. High skilled players just sliding across the map
Yeah thats toast
F
Move tech bussin
I need to learn more of those. Right now, playing bugged surge and always got caught by horde and my team mates are usually trying to survive on their own lol
That's like a 0.5/4 for perk blessings, still can be a 2.5/4 not the worst
Didn't know sliding give invuln and more speed
It doesn't really give more* speed
Ohh
It carries the momentum of your attack and ignores the deceleration
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Hmm soo like I slide, and can say charge up staff without slowing?
Aight dont ask why Im posting here but is this lasgun decent (Im making a shitty schizo Pistoleroo build give me a break)
You press slide after your heavy stab comes out, so you get the boosted speed of the heavy pushing you forward
I want to complete some of the Penances for my Psyker, but I don't really like Brain Burst. Does anyone have a fun build for BB they would share with me?
Staff slide is funky, but you can do that easily
You hold sprint+forward while charging your staff, then press crouch
Somehow you fly forward
You are kinda forced to use wrap charge BB build ( basically all of left side )
There is one penace that wants you to BB at max wrap charge.
There is empowered psi BB build but that mean you are missing out on that last penace I mentioned soo yea ... slow BB and just grind it out for a few days
a tale of two psykers
I think I grind it slowly over a week and managed to get them all out turning me insane
Damn, I want the armor, but I REALLY don't wanna play that way.
I know T_T same here. Just gotta be a load on your team and stay in BB all the time unless you are getting swarmed
is it me or does running out of stam with psyker feel particularly slow?
Base stam regen delay is very good on psyker
Diff classes have diff base speeds for out of stamina running
Iirc zealot has a relatively fast one whereas psyker and vets numbers are a bit lower comparatively
Different classes also have different multipliers for damage taken while sprinting, sliding, etc
I know have my own dueling sword, can Ogryn be Spark’Ead now?
Jokes on you I like popping skulls
I haven't even hit 30 yet and I got the Power up Penance lol
there's dueling sword, and then dueling greatsword
play auric damnation > zap crushers and ping them > whole team doing something else and dont bother looking> team wipe 
support psyker with smite, trauma staff with rending shock and bubble. First time i go down is just before finally and the team immediately crumbles without all the stun support
If only you could kill the crushers yourself 🤔
Just had a game where the other Vet went down twice, and then the EP bug abusing Surge Psyker called him a noob an i was just like bruh... the fucking irony
whats the ep bug anyways?
all ive heard is something with the surge staff does more damage
Empowered psiconic. The middle keystone affects surge staffs without using up the charge I think ? Soo it does insane damage for free as long as you don't go using up all 3 charges
Don't need to do any weird stuffs like hoarding wrap charges and not press F
thaaats why there's so many surge users this patch. braindead easy and powerful... Ty for the answer bro
If you don't see a surge user swap cancel, you know they aren't good
Me likey. 2 shots reapers/crushers/mutants/mauler. One shots the rest
Can confirm. Not good. Didn't even know that is a thing
Soo what the heck is that ? And what does it do? Thar swap cancel
Do I like surge someone and cancel the long animation by swapping weapons?
Yea

You can press quick swap twice, or any other way you like
Some people call it QQ cancel for that reason
Talking about surge staffs ... I am guessing I need to charge it up to the max for max damage?
Yea
Mainly for shotgunner / scab gunner
Dreg gunner can't be oneshot except crit
So dreg gunner is full charge plus mini charge/ball
Ohh. I guess I had been criting a lot since I do have that wrap nexus
Yea if it doesn't die just ball it or small shock
And usually on red perils all the time anyway
Between this Surge bug and the Voidstrike being made stupid in last patch im really starting to hate Pug psykers with a passion
Voidstrike is still fine, it's just the users aren't that good because they are stuck with the meta weapon they mindlessly made because people said it was good
Surge is the exact same
I move to whatever class/weapon is meta
People told them it was good, so they're using it
But they have no clue how to use it
People should spread trauma around more
You can't screw up trauma
Ok you can if you do nothing but scatter hordes
I've seen too many voidstrike users trying to ball a scattered horde and yea it's a really bad experience, usually you should run to a choke or just pull out your melee
Never liked trauma. Same deal on sienna's version
Siennas trauma didn't throw chaos warriors to the ground 
Ngl, meta stuff in this game is irritatingly low skill, the stuff that requires you to be good to use is very rarely considered a meta pick
thats a big part of why a lot of weapons become "meta" brainlets can usem with some degree of success. Ever notice how theres so many auric vets who run shovel?
Ehhh. I feel lukewarm on it. I am glad there are effective and less demanding options.
But I can see why something that takes a ton of effort to be "as good" doesn't become meta.
Shovel? I see more PSword an Catchan Swords than Shovels
Shovel actually requires you to learn its moveset to be in any way successful with it
Also see a lot of Chainsword
i've seen probably 7-8 vets running shovels when playing auric but i dont remember the last time ive seen one on the other board
how would you rate this staff?
literally the staff i just got but better in every way D:
It's fine. Very usable.
It's missing out on damage and would benefit from different perks.
high damage really needed on trauma? im running a 63%dmg in damnation and doing aight with it
tbf i mostly use it for stagger though guess
If you're just using for a CC tool, then damage doesn't matter.
You can make whites work if you want to.
DC any good on pysker over other stuff?
As your main damage source, trauma wants high damage, blast radius, and charge rate. Getting a decent amount of warp resistence and quell speed is ideal.
Trauma is an ass to build.
I do want to point out that most people's gear is probably good enough.
Many of us play the min/max game and gamble on gear that's marginally better.
I personally dump damage on trauma cuz I also use it as mostly a support and something that I pull out every once in a while
Yea best horde clear outside of illisi or brumo axe
I was stuck against a corner with 4 ragers once
I just spammed parry and they all died
So there's that 
If they hit you within a 1sec(?) Window of you pressing that button
never really used the DCs
You do a really strong counter
ah
And you don't take damage ofc
Counts as a block
I think...
I wasnt paying attention to my stamina / peril bars
It counts as block yes, though must be perfect parry against overheads
For the swag, or if you are out of dodges
the parry also has the stamina cost capped to 2 bars or so
It's a tool that other weapons don't give you. Rager in melee and no one helping you? Counter can delete em.
so if you parry a plogryn's charge which typically deals 6 or 8 stamina bars, then you'll only lose 2(?) bars of stamina
It's damage isn't as high as other weapons, and doesn't have strong bonuses like deflector or armor piercing like a dueling sword, but it's overall well rounded with a tool to help with situations a psyker usually struggles in.
It's good horde clear and mk4 has a decent strikedown overhead, it's a melee weapon alright
I heard they have a backstab bonus or smth?
should be the catachan combat blade (knife) that has the innate backstab bonus
2 bars, yeah
which means u get to parry the plogryn and shout some sort of reference to the title of an anime
and feel cool
so for the duellign sword, i suppose im looking for flak+maniac, but what blessings are ideal?
uncanny + shred or uncanny + rampage iirc
uncanny and shred is goated
"plogryn" and "paul" are two things that will never leave my brain
It's never a good sign when you quickplay and you're the only one in the drop ship. All I can think is, "What kinda game am I joining? Turn around Masozi! TURN AROUND!"
lmao
ive joined into one too many games where its an immediate disaster i have to solo clutch
ive joined too many games where i am CLEARLY the weak link
or i haveto step away because im doing hospice care and my patient needs me
makes me feel like an ass, but he takes priority
if it makes u feel any better im running a forensic rehabilitation psych ward atm
aah teh night shift
im gonna macro heavy attack for duelling sword
if i have to provide prn medications or something goes down boom insta leave match
95% of the time though all is well
Forensic rehabilitation pysch ward? Those are four words I have never seen together like that.
whenever i team up with friends, theyhelp explain why im gone. and theres been quite a few times i come back to see that they not only havnt kicked me, but stayed and protected my charecter till i got back
at the very worst, there's the retry/reconnect mod (I forget the name) that kicks you out of the game but gives the menu that allows you to rejoin, so a bot will take your place
I don't know if there's a timer on it though
5 minutes
damn
tbh i forget how i know that but i know it from somewhere
its the same timer as the base AFK kick if your in lobby
intuit through the morphogenetic field
i think its knowledge from the before times back when we only had a working cash store and everything else was broken
hmm, so having macro that periodically puts you back into the menu -> rejoin -> repeat would probably work if needed unless they account for that as well
a rube goldberg machine that physically disconnects your internet if it's wired
idk but im usually at the front of my group and if its in range ill grab it, but if im dealing with a group of enemies and i see something out of reach i ping it, and it rarely gets picked up so i have to circle back after killing stuff
and i watch people walk right by mats all the time
You tag the plasteel and your character goes plasteeeeeeeel
Force greatsword, it's coming
I will too
anyone have breakpoints for BR with warp siphon compared to empowered?
I don't but you can focus on ragers/maulers/mutants
Warpsiphon doesn't give any BB bps
Unless niche stuff like 4-3 BBs on maulers or smth like that
Ehh, BB is in a bit weaker spot at the moment. EP is your best option in beefing it up.
How do I get lots of Plasteel??? I'm always out
i mostly use it as a passive skill for my staff builds
but with purgatus i use it for range
Play a lot of damnation and comb the maps
I don't care about enemies, I just go to get the plasteel no matter what
Quickplay is bettter
would it be better to run with a group?
Depends if your group is any good
assuming your group is consistently better than randos
its a toss up
Which isn't hard to beat really
haven't done any damnation
Randy rando is known for waking the daemontoasties after all
bug abuse??
quickplay damnation with empowered surge
Bug abuse only really works if you know what you are doing though
well shit, I don't lol
basically take a surge staff
Eh, with that big a dmg boost you'll still easily be able to go up a diff tier
And it just makes a weapon stronger, doesn't make plasteel collecting any less shit
yeah but itll probably bump a person from heresy to damnation
mmm ok
Yea but I've also seen pubs spamming that into a horde like pre13
I know you're supposed to pull out a horde clear sword for them but the darth sideous play is still satisfying
something like this
you can also use BR for passive applications but
you dont need it tbh
the +1 chain is nicer for the added cc imo
makes damnation a breeze
Out of curiosity why do you invest so much into empowered? Once you get your stack you're golden and smite feels like a wet noodle so why use it
smite is actually
really good horde clear
but this is my surge staff build
and if i get overwhelmed
i actually use smite
hence the 3 stacks
on something like this do you guys go empowered psyonics or warp siphon?
never play pysker, just curious how he is built best
For reference this is my "Honorless Mood" surge build
U are going full pepega on crit and not picking range immune on crit? Seems legit...
S
S?
me? im just curious how psyker plays before deciding if i want to level him to 30
What are the differences in range weps for psyker?
I mean if u go gaze i assume that u are using rifle...
Your main ranged options are the staves but Gun-ker is not as much of a meme as it used to be
Going with a gun is not as bad as people make it out to be, its just what gun you're going with and if you know what you're doing with the build
I saw decent gunkers, but i still do not approve that shit thou...
If you're going with a gun then go precognition instead of the -20% peril
the 50% dodge node increase doesn't work at all btw, take the othr one. If staff i'd go warp siphon, if gun i'd go dd
You can easily get 30 stacks if you can aim or if you've got a nice force sword with exorcist blessing
why can't you use melee with gaze?
i know theres headshot bonus but you can just aim it too right
Melee is really good with stacking gaze but with precognition
True, u can, but going full melee as a psyker is not the best idea in the world
As i said you can easily get 30 stacks on a horde and then melt anything though i do recomend going with a force sword with exorcist blessing to quell perrils on weakspot hits
Also now that i know how disrupt destiny actually works if you're going with it i also recomend going with this instead of the duration one
if force sword then which purple node tree?
if you get block ranged on a melee and do the block for peril thing melee makes you into a nearly unkillable tank
thats DisruptDe i see
This is the skill tree i use for my gun psyker, post below is the curios and weapons i run with
is empowered psyonics jsut not good?
no it is for smite and BR
That is my non bugged classic surge build
this makes siphon the most consistent for nearly anything, and the -peril
but you dont get to spam abilities as much and keep stacks unless really high density
i see dodge ranged for 1 sec on melee crit but i don't see bloked range on melee
its a blessing
Yea its nice
U need deflector blessing on a weapon, to block ranged
thats like all the nodes LOL
Deflector is good but i feel like it acts like a set of additional wheels on a bike
the coloring on that tool is a little wack
You can certaily go without it and have success
That's shitty visual on a smart screen 🙂
for what situation i would want 20%? melee?
stave is the one where you shoot the energy thing right
Kills give you annother 1 second
Soo if you don't quell you will end up with 15 second duration and 15% damage bonus
WHile precognition you can get 30% easily by just killing people with headshots
thats what this is lol
whats the difference between staff and gun
can you headshot with staff? i assume staff projectiles can't pierce ( from what i recall)
And if you're in melee then a force sword with exorcist (quells 5% peril per weakspot hit) it will get you 30 stacks in melee because of the additional duration you get from quell
Either Surge for lightning, Purgatus for fire, Trauma for funny floor circle explosions, or Voidstrike for explosive piercing cannonball
Depends on the staff but you can't headshot with some
There is no other build planer that works work properly on a smart screen, sadge...
I don't know if purge can hit weakspots
i havent tried void since the nerf but i assume its still pretty good, surge without the bug is ok but not amazing, purgatus is the best horde clear pyskers have
it cant
Well there you go
so if you don't like to aim, use stave? if you ok with aim, use gun?
void you need to aim
Well yea i linked my gun build with which i am having great success
Nvm switching browser helps xD
surge is auto target, purgatus is spray
Void is still very good, you get to stagger lock bosses and great horde clear in halls/chokes
ive actually really been liking this
then whats the real difference between staff and gun?
staff can kill elites better?
staffs mostly ignore armor
so they are really good for big heavy targets
and no ammo
assuming you can manage peril which is easy once you're used to it
yeah i was going for a elite 1vX psyker build
i want to try elite killer build of every class
on the flipside psyker in general(staves included) don't have much tools for monsters
Void or Surge
Honestly i had no issues with ammo on my build but then again i am running with this, with some other guns you would probably have problems with ammo
Buti never had to fight over ammo with vets
real differences between those two?
in any situation on any class
Here u go that's better visibility 🙂
surge is medium damage to basically one target with auto aim
Void you aim Surge does a lot more to Crushers and the likes and no aim
void is aoe/cleave with better damage and headshot multi but you have to aim it and its infinite range
what about ragers?
I still find surge the better elite clear but maybe I just suck
also quick question, how come psyker has a crit aura but no real crit talents barring the top right one
Oh boy
No, u r not, surge is the top staff xD
which one is better for ragers*?
You can certaily land crits on psyker really often
so surge for some CC and void for big damage?
and techincally does damage to all targets but like, 1/4 per jump
Surge breathes for crits, if you take all the on crit talents and a correct blessing it does some work
Well, maybe not the aura
@untold niche Obviously take the nodes with crit and this if you're going disrupt destiny you will automatically get this which is pretty good
My average run with surge has like 50 disablers/50 elite kills xD at minimum
you can get really high "base" crit on pysker
I've recently been suprised at how well crit purgatus does against bosses
goddam i missed that
(bug) surge one shots everything but a crusher with a crit
Example crit build
wait can i go DD on staff even with say void?
Burning something to bits works since beginning of the time xD
so if you havent tried DD yet
its not quite as good as it sounds on paper
cause its slightly bugged
still good but not as consistent
warp siphon is super consistent
DD is very inconsistent rn because half the time there's no highlighted enemy
as stacks fall off one by one
GODDAM LOL
so you always have near max stacks unless you need a panic ability which uses the stacks
DD marking is bugged
It does mark multiple enemeies its just only one is "visibly" marked
It just switches
if you're new to pysker, try siphon and bubble shield, very simple, very rounded, very consistent
then when you get used to peril and such then try other stuff
That's why i recommend going the 30 stacks instead of the additional 15 second duration on dd
i havent used it in a long while
last point take warp speed?
So my loadout is staff (void/surge) + power sword / dueling sword 4?
urgh u guys have the problem with trying to switch off blitz but it doesn't register the first time?
but its good to get used to the class
if you are mid using it
itll cancel the swap
so you gotta wait
or thats what it feels like

Try ds2 or ds4 u might like them more
ds2?
Duelling sword
im mashing my melee button but it doesn't want to switch quick enough
i see thanks.
Can i say that my elite/special clear is realtively strong but im going be ultra weak in horde clear?
4 is better overall imo, but 2 is still good
another scrier surge staff enjoyer? 
yes, happens all the time
Duelling swords with rampage+uncanny are pretty good at horde clears
And are good at armor pen too
then in that build what is the weakness?
There is non xD
pyskers are bordering on op because they are stupidly well rounded in near every build
with fairly low gear requirements
Melee for hordes, surge for elites and disablers, bb for long range combat and bosses
i.e. when i went from ogryn to zealot
i gave up either damage or CC for some speed and a smaller box
or if i want to keep both damage and cc i lose out on toughness
I wonder how will it be different going from zeal to psyker
built right mk4 dueling swords 1 hit ragers
so i always have my mk4 as my panic button
Its a very good tree, but mostly what makes Psykers broken is that there has been consistent exploitable bugs since P13
i'd ditch wildfire and take the Warp Rider node
Also, Assail
So watch out for dodges
the bugs do help but, my pysker with half as many games on it as my vet still feels soooo much stronger
Just don't get hit 
squishy BUT
Overall it probably is, Vet is still very strong, but its much more based around certain talents wheres Psyker kinda just has everything be good
your recovery is insane
Hello fellow siblings. Can someone please assist me in choosing a right melee for my bubble smite psyker with primary voidstrike? Already played a bit with some dueling swords, but mostly i was playing with force swords like Deimos or Illisi, still i can't find the one that truly fits for me, and i'm not sure about the blessings too. Perhaps someone can help with providing some options so i can test them in game? Thank you in advance
like ogryn heavy attack build insane
so final build,
Staff ( void / surge)
Power sword / Dueling sword mk4
i would avoid scriers till youre more used to peril managment
what is scrier? the staff?
your ability
oh gaze
what if... devils claw 4/7?
Try and get exorcist on force sword if you're going with it
how does this build compare to zeal for elite 1vX
Wait staff uses peril too? So sad
you get up to 20% damage and 20% crit for having high peril, so eventually you want to be able to sit at 70%+ all the time
I can try that, but i really almost never play with them. What blessings is good on them?
rampage/shred + savage sweep
Kinetic vampire is better 8n all situations unless u use purge
Ult pre last node
At this point i rate Wrath over Savage tbh
so sorry purge are you referring to the staff type?
Not because its better or anything, but it is more consistent
basically anything that bumps cleave
yeah as you wont be killing on fire guys too often
use this one for staves
Yea this one is fun
also just so u know scrier's gaze doesn't make use of cooldown reduction like the other abilities, cooldown won't go down during it.
as it passively applies
can you quell peril in gaze?
yes
The cooldown just starts as the ability ends - 10 seconds since you keep the bonuses for 10 seconds after the ability ends
Soo by default its on 20 second cd
U can, but if u go surge gaze is not an option
U need to hit wps to slow peril generation
oh so in that build, im basically can only use void staff?
do you?
If u go gaze, yep
you lose out on the finese damage though if you take that perk
@glossy ember tell em
doest do anything for surge staff breakpoints
i tried
so go -20% peril gen
you wont weakpoint with rmb
I wonder if there is anything at all that affects surge breakpoints xD
Gaze
warp charges + perfect timing
so i can use surge in that build, but i have to go reality anchor?
Guh
gaze lowers breakpoints too
boutta post them clips hollup...
Personally i think gaze works as intended only with guns xD
lemme finish breakfast
Gaze works with precognition because then you actually can get 30 stacks on it
If you can aim that is
Aiming is for the weaks xD
but if i use void staff can i say 1v3 ragers? :v
point staff in general direction
It is funny how a Psyker with a Revolver drops specials way faster than all the staves tho
Because revolver does nuts for damage
Ofc, but its still funny
ithink we should duct tape guns to staffs
The problem is that rev is a reloading simulator xD
void has cleave so if they line up
otherwise surge will maybe stun all 3
while you kill 1 by 1
I tried revolver on psyker and there are just issues with reloading and ammo
Also disrupt destiny is not great with the revolver since it requires you to hit those targets which means using up your ammo
guardian spear when?
my zealot runs revolver, never had much issue with reloading
Basically if you only need to pop1 sniper, immediately relaod after that since the reload is by bullet
revolver is too good
not only the headshot is 1 shot for any man sized special
the ADS time is basically non existent
easily my fav weapon on vet
I am more of a helbore type of guy
but staves bussin too hard on pysker
Use purge and 1v20
purgatus single target is more than it seems, i can hose down maulers and ragers easy, crushers and muties less so
it also staggers really well
Purge + deimos combo is nuts thou xD
does the deimos ever do more damage than the mk4, to justify its slower speed from its specials?
i just havent used it so idk
i assume like uh with purge by gaze will end really fast? :v
I don't know i just really want a build that
I can clear elites fast
deimos light do big stab
U dont need special on deimos
hurt alot
oh thought people used deimos for single target
U use ot only once to stack uncanny fast
@silk hawk actually do you have such a build :3
Gaze is kinda mid tbh
Just don't need it, swing around purge and packs melt
I am in love with my latest creation
in low panic situations it's not too bad to use surge with scrier
I use that
Man how do you like "unlock" the mod like that? I just cant do that
Althou i think it's fine to use psioniccs too
mid-high panic it gets harder.
also you have to blitz cancel almost every surge rmb
otherwise you won't get to use scrier
It’s a specific version of the mod
so not recommended to start with, and very likely this build is less damage than flaming shriek surge
i just play it cuz it's fun and i deal good enough damage with it
thats what i was saying, i wouldnt suggest starting with gaze, and i personally dont like using it
not to say its bad but
bubble shield or fireshreik too good imo
i'd say it's not good purely because it's inconsistant
The plugin version in the pins or?
but it's not bad because it's usable
also if teammates still somehow steal your elites then you're fucked when building warp stacks early in gaze lmao
Btw if u will roll purge its one of the weapons whre dmg stat is not that important, main thing u want is cloud radius and burn
Its a hot take, but i actually reckon Zealot benifits the most from Revolver for one simple reason.. Throwing Knives are SUCH good cover for when you dont got none in the chambers
Just throw a knife, drop a trapper or whatever, carry on with reload
Is buttery smooth
Not counting bugged interactions with HC on other classes ofc
i think zealots miss out on some BPs for revoler, at least compared to vet
damnation mael, no thanks lol
They dont get Deadshot or as much ranged damage boosts, is true, but from a utility standpoint an still offering beefy damage, its very fun to play
Certainly dont feel like im losing out by running it
Uninstall the normal version or do you need both?
Lmao
and go insta put in with them IN GAME
Uninstall the normal version
which one is better? didnt mod them yet
yeah i left that game, i might be able to carry it but i dont want to
@untold niche imma run some chill 4s if you wanna join and ill try and show you some stuff
Can you do me a solid an send the packed file please fella?
void still cleaves bulwarks right?
I’m on my phone rn
nvm i cant read
Cheers pal, was strugglin to find it
why crit aura tho?
Crits from purge apply more burn
And when u use warp charges u don't want to use ability too much anyways
wait how come
hold on let me read
warp charge tree
oh you expend all warp charge
means your damage gone
Yep
did not think of that
It's fine if u need the dome, like there is lots of shooters or u need it to save someone, but in general, u don't want to use it xD
so mainly you shooty shooty with your staff?
like crusher / mauler / metal rager?
U burn them, and them spam uncanny deimos on wp
deimos is a melee wepaon?
so special + rager --> shooty with staff
metal --> slash
The only thing u cant kill with a burn os carapace
But if u burn it
And then stack uncanny from melee
Your burn will deal dmg to carapace
Ye
why even take this?
With deimos it works like that, u can do one apecial to the head
feels pretty good with the Falchion 4 or 5 blades too
Special
the ogryn fist hides any clipping
To get max uncanny stacks
goddam

