psyker-class

[honest gorge]

what are the ideal ones for a trauma staff?

[near wyvern]

check Atheneum

[viscid matrix]

[dark radish]

I mean force sword

[near wyvern]

check Atheneum

#psyker-class message

[gloomy magnet]

nice guide, but I am short of materials for forging

[shell maple]

Is Psyker the weakest class right now?

[near wyvern]

lmao no

[gloomy magnet]

glass cannon class

[shell maple]

Vet?

[near wyvern]

probs but that also depends from the build you are running

[gloomy magnet]

psyker's flesh is weak

[near wyvern]

there are absolute monster builds for vets as well

currently it seems all classes have strong builds but what differs is the amount / flexibility of the builds

ogryns probs being in the strongest spot right now in that they are just absolute powerhouses

psyker struggle a bit with monstrosity damage unless you are running a very few specific builds

[shell maple]

Recently lvl’d all 4 classes to 30 and felt i had easiest time on Ogryn and hardest time on Psyker

[near wyvern]

well Psyker's don't really get good until you start to get good gear and unlock your talents

it's a rough start but they scale well

[vestal fulcrum]

And you are made of glass through and throughout, still

[shell maple]

I mean non of the other classes punishes u with a down lol (i need to manage peril better)

[near wyvern]

Exhibition A, it's not only the class it's also the person who is playing that class

[plucky flax]

Hard to call vet weakest now with how op their shout is currently.

Maybe slowest at dealing damage.

[sturdy dagger]

Its like there only redeeming feature to be fair

[near wyvern]

it's hard to say some class is weakest, it's just that it seems not all classes have many really strong builds

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d argue Zealot is currently bringing the least to the table of all classes

[near wyvern]

vets seem to get the narrowest "meta" build variety this patch

[vestal fulcrum]

But that may have something to do with my bias towards Ogryns

[plucky flax]

Zealot with martyrdom is still so tanky and do so much melee damage while being super slippery.

[near wyvern]

I beg to differ. Thammer is like the right hand of the emperor and heavy sword zealots who know what they are doing are like:

https://tenor.com/view/mow-the-lawn-peter-draws-cutting-the-grass-lawn-mower-mowing-gif-19920702

[sturdy dagger]

Ogryns seem really op rn yet I see so few of them in my games

[plucky flax]

I think the problem with ogryn is it sort of struggle in solo clutch situation because slow movement and big hit box.

[sturdy dagger]

I

[vestal fulcrum]

Don’t get me wrong, Zealot is far from being weak, but of all classes whenever I play Zealot, I fail to excel at anything in particular that is not already covered in a way

[sturdy dagger]

Hate

Shooters

[vestal fulcrum]

I may just be playing with competent people of all things…

[plucky flax]

Zealot has the most versatile melee for me with combat axe. Can horde and elites clear exceptionally well.

[sturdy dagger]

I may have 2 learn the way of heavy sword then, getting bored of crusher bonk stick

[plucky flax]

Also decent monster damage with heavies on combat axe.

[undone carbon]

hsword v fun, i call mine the blender

[plucky flax]

I prefer antax myself for better elites clear.

[gloomy magnet]

psyker has auto-aim, i like it <.<

[undone carbon]

fair, caxe v good

[plucky flax]

The bm change is very good.

[near wyvern]

some also seem to like devil's claw now on zealot

[plucky flax]

Way faster horde clear with bm axe now.

[near wyvern]

yeah combat axe zealots never get old

[undone carbon]

mm i should try axes again its been a while

[plucky flax]

You don't get unlimited cleave but you kill 4 enemies per swing.

[undone carbon]

my hsword been glued to my zealot's hand for ages

[plucky flax]

Before you kill 1 or 2 and did like 20 damage to the rest.

[crude trout]

for hordes, combat axes only use push attacks or we can kill the horde with lights? I feel like my antax combat axe light 1 and 2 for me only kill 2 poxwalkers

[near wyvern]

if you are talking about psykers with combat axes rashad is the only thing you should consider, and the rule goes:

• carapace, unyielding = heavy
• everything else = light
• it's ok to open on a flak with a heavy but never on a maniac

[crude trout]

i have BM 4

[vestal fulcrum]

Push attacks are mostly for making space on CAxes - they have worse damage values than regular light attacks

[near wyvern]

yup

you only push attack to make a breather and then throw some lights in there

during a horde

[vestal fulcrum]

Thus, BM benefits more from swinging Lights at enemies’ heads

[crude trout]

also for taller characters, would achlys be a good contender for BM axe since you can QQ cancel or block cancel heavy 1 hordes?

and heavy 1 is a sweep

[near wyvern]

heavy 1 is too slow

[vestal fulcrum]

You can, but it’s extremely gimmicky

[crude trout]

ahh I see

[near wyvern]

unsafe

[vestal fulcrum]

And not very effective, either

Rashad still reigns supreme, sadly

[crude trout]

yeah i think I'll try giving c axes a go with my zealot and psyker

[bleak tulip]

I remember the push attac caxe meta

what a terrible time

[near wyvern]

I remember crucian roulette knife

that was fun while it lasted

was fun while it lasted

oh wait wrong video

lmao

https://youtu.be/jCehR1JU1Eg?si=36WDZvOq52hqu0Ye

there

[crude trout]

ay sorry wanted to ask if anyone tested how much benefit does the cleave targets stat of the antax has over the rashad?

[near wyvern]

not enough

[vestal fulcrum]

IIRC at 70+ cleave targets you can hit two poxwalkers with a single light attack

[near wyvern]

cleave targets only mean you stagger more of them

[vestal fulcrum]

But it’s not a dealbreaker in any regard

[near wyvern]

you still only deal like 10 damage to them

[frail sand]

is there any way to make blazing spirit on force sword work

[near wyvern]

currently, no

[frail sand]

dammit

[near wyvern]

I mean

you can make a pretty visual

but in terms of actual damage, no

[frail sand]

this is the real buff

[crude trout]

aww ok , I now feel sad for my first 545 Antax axe on my psyker

[vestal fulcrum]

If they weren’t so effective at killing trash enemies by default, maybe

[crude trout]

😦

[vestal fulcrum]

But enemies die too quickly to regular attacks* for BS to take effect

[frail sand]

fatshark pls buff

the concept is so cool

[near wyvern]

the problem is not helped by:

• blazing spirit does not trigger if the crit kills the target
• wildfire spreading bugs

[frail sand]

[near wyvern]

for blazing spirit to work we would at least need it to trigger with wildfire on a crit kill and they would at the very least fix the single stack vanishing bug from wildfire

[frail sand]

welp in the corner to collect dust this force sword with soulblaze 4 will go

[near wyvern]

yup, bank it, some day it might be meta

[vestal fulcrum]

The option is there, but its viability currently is questionable.

[near wyvern]

perhaps it's semi viable during light's out??? xD

[frail sand]

lmao

[near wyvern]

making some candles

[still hearth]

Can you wet corpses on fire with blazing

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder if there would be a niche for BS sword to have an acceptable degree of Monster DPS, but then the stack limit is making it difficult to justify, still

[frail sand]

if the sword has soulblaze flames

[near wyvern]

I don't think with blazing spirit but definitely with purgatus, and so on

[frail sand]

then i dont care if it's good i will use it

[near wyvern]

oh wait

it might

haven't tested it

but I think staff blazing spirit does

so there is a possibility

[still hearth]

Then maybe it works if you hit bodies

Get the wildfire going

Like kindling

[near wyvern]

but even though wildfire triggers off from bodies (after soulblaze ends on them) it's not really that beneficial

[still hearth]

You can try to use it with low ragdoll count

[near wyvern]

the problem is if you keep on applying it to the corpse it will never spread 🙈

[still hearth]

But yeah

It's not good

[vestal fulcrum]

By the way, since we’re talking force swords and such, what typically is the swarm clear combo of attacks for Illisi? Is it light spam for non-mixed, trash only hordes, and light/heavy mix against mixed hordes, or is there something else I should consider? (Obviously special attacks help with mixed-in elites and toughness restoration with Soulstealer)

[near wyvern]

@frail sand your best bet is an Illisi with Shred and Blazing Spirit. Bonus points for running Gaze and Battle Meditation as well.

[frail sand]

the blazing spirit force sword shall go to the same corner as the blazing spirit trauma staff

[still hearth]

Blazing trauma is actually good though

[bleak tulip]

blaze trauma is still goated

[near wyvern]

wait what

blaze trauma is meta

if you have the right rolls

[still hearth]

Unlike the sword trauma doesn't kill in the big aoe

[frail sand]

i think i have a reasonable one

[still hearth]

So you can set a lot on fire

[near wyvern]

and you can do all this while making a safe heaven for your team

bonus points for bringing in stun shileds or dome

[bleak tulip]

I dont know the exact ratio but its not crazy if like a third or half your damage might be soublaze with it

[frail sand]

i have both the blazkng variant and the rending shockwave variant anyway

[still hearth]

To be fair plenty of it might be overkill

[frail sand]

if only blast radius was 80%

[still hearth]

If you then hit them with the trauma

[bleak tulip]

you already get a shitton of SB damage just from creeping flames and perilous combustion

[near wyvern]

ufff

[still hearth]

That's a nutty staff

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s probably better than mine is, don’t you dare complain

[near wyvern]

hurts to see 380 so close to optimal

[bleak tulip]

dont let perfect be the enemy of great, thats a good staff

[frail sand]

I cannot for the life of me get a good illisi to roll, however

[vestal fulcrum]

This is the one I have

[frail sand]

getting a good grey base is proving to be a challenge lmao

[bleak tulip]

nobody actually runs perfect weapons because the 1% to get to 100% perfection takes like a thousand hours of plasteel grinding

[crude trout]

I cannot get a trauma staff that has a base rating of more than 375

[vestal fulcrum]

Damage dump stat

[near wyvern]

this is very good

[frail sand]

there's no blazing spirit 4 on trauma staff right

[near wyvern]

correct

[crude trout]

for blaze trauma do you guys get the crit aura or no

[still hearth]

Mo

No never

[crude trout]

i feel like the 10% cd reduction is universally useful morso than the other auras

[still hearth]

The CDR is too stupid

It's 17.5% rn too

Because Fatshark

[frail sand]

wait what

how do they screw that up

[summer prairie]

you can't get it even if cdr aura wasn't amazing because you want shriek for the build

[still hearth]

Not the first time they bug auras

[near wyvern]

if you are running fire shout take 10% ability reduction, if you are planning to stack up on warp sihpon charges and never give those up, get the 5% crit, if you take dome or stun shields it's up to you both work

[still hearth]

Zealot used to lose their aura if they took certain nodes in the old talent system

[frail sand]

[near wyvern]

calssic

[rare storm]

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh. What? What were those if you happen to remember?

[near wyvern]

there is a bugged out talent for veteran right now which causes them to take increased damage

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m genuinely curious, because it’s the first time I heard about it

[still hearth]

I believe Thy Wrath Be Swift replaced your aura before

[rare storm]

what HAHAHHAHA

Which one is that

[vestal fulcrum]

Exhilarating Takedown

[frail sand]

I need an aura to prevent teammate from shooting poxbursters when im pushing it

[rare storm]

Noted

[near wyvern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17q6ve3/psa_veterans_exhilerating_takedown_is_bugged_and/

[still hearth]

Veteran also gets stun immunity if they take improved grenades

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-gif-24457079

[vestal fulcrum]

Because of course they do

[rare storm]

This one ya

[near wyvern]

yup

[still hearth]

I'm pretty sure it's intended to work when you have the grenade out

But it just happens constantly

[frail sand]

It will be sorely missed when it gets patched

[vestal fulcrum]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1A79I6_5hFFyT6/d1337NNAmp1W?invite=cr-MSxDaFgsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

Shared at the courtesy of Crab

[near wyvern]

I mean this might be the biggest lie of Fatshark descriptions in the history of Darktide xD

[rare storm]

what the hell HAHAHAHA

That's insane that's almost a 50% increase in damage taken

[near wyvern]

FS thought vets were too strong so they slipped in a couple hidden nerfs in there figuring no one would notice xD

[rare storm]

[frail sand]

Should rework it into a talent called "Glass Cannon"

you take 30% increased toughness dmg but you dish out 15% more dmg

[shell maple]

They dont fix stuff like that but they fixed Smite real quick

[near wyvern]

yup

I assume Surge staff EP will be fixed next patch as well

Wildfire has been bugged since it was released

but they don't have time to look after that sorta stuff

[frail sand]

the rectangle shield is so fun to use

[wet belfry]

Oh my god

[frail sand]

making mutants bonk on the wall

[rare storm]

If it's something that's unintentionally benefitial to a class, of course it will be gone

[wet belfry]

I thought veteran had 4 toughness talents with 2 of them being good

[rare storm]

otherwise, eh it'll be fine

[wet belfry]

Apparently only 1 of them is good.

💀

[shell maple]

Words can’t describe my anger

[still hearth]

They bonk on dome too

[frail sand]

do they?

[still hearth]

Kinda

They treat it as a wall if their target dodges

[frail sand]

is that even intentional

[near wyvern]

yeah seemed to notice this in last game

[still hearth]

Probably not

I have a clip somewhere

[frail sand]

lmao fatshark pls

[rare storm]

They get trapped inside the dome itself

[near wyvern]

I gotta go replicate it and add to atheneum

[frail sand]

[rare storm]

Like a rat in a bucket

[frail sand]

the fact that the game even runs is a miracle

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1C3K0TuRAKlqxK/d1337v07fZUe?invite=cr-MSxmSGQsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[near wyvern]

emperor wills it

[still hearth]

There you go

[near wyvern]

lmao thanks

[still hearth]

It's 100% consistent

[rare storm]

Somebody mentioned that the dome is probably a solid wall that the players can walk through

[frail sand]

lol wtf

[near wyvern]

and triggers on their target dodge

without damaging the shield

uwu

[still hearth]

I swear I've had muties stuck on dome too

In specific situations

[lunar hollow]

my favorite is bursters having a heart attack and infinitely lunging backwards

[still hearth]

Old surge

Making bursters do the worm

[lunar hollow]

almost makes me feel bad for them

[frail sand]

oh yeah, what actually makes mutants stop when u zap them with surge staff?

[rare storm]

What is that counter to the right of your crosshair may I ask

[frail sand]

it feels like it takes 2 zaps?

[bleak tulip]

range I think

[rare storm]

oo a rangefinder

interesting

[still hearth]

Range indicator yeah

I don't use it

Idk why I have it on

[bleak tulip]

more numbers more good

[frail sand]

more info = more skillz

[still hearth]

I think it was for testing

[rare storm]

The less of the game I see the better

[still hearth]

And then I never turned it off

[rare storm]

Somebody in the zealot chat has a disgusting hud

Everything is centered on the crosshair

God knows what the guy is looking at

[lunar hollow]

theres a lot of fucked up hud mods

that are just absolutely ghoulish

[shell maple]

Btw is Surge staff AOE or Single Target only?

[rare storm]

it hits 3 targets but only damages one

4 if you're using the smite node for +1 jump

[near wyvern]

alright, added that dome interaction to Atheneum

[frail sand]

that is kinda dumb too ngl

[still hearth]

Isn't it 2 targets base

[frail sand]

why is the smite node affecting surge zap

[still hearth]

And 3 with smite

[rare storm]

O oops

This then

[near wyvern]

yeah surge staff is 2 targets base +1 with the smite modifier

[still hearth]

If you have the EP bug then the secondary can actually kill small enemies

On crits at least

Does like 400~ damage

[near wyvern]

warp siphon + perfect timing + warp rider and you can kill lesser enemies with half charge

even without EP

[rare storm]

The running theory is that the lightning effects and damage code is the same and they just copy pasted over

[frail sand]

delicious pasta

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156

[bleak tulip]

it must use the same function or something for sure yeah

only became a noticable problem when they raised smite damage in EP tho

[rare storm]

This is the funniest to me

The bug could've been with us from the very start but nobody noticed it

[frail sand]

just did a recolor of the zap

[viscid matrix]

the fact that the staff uses Staff-bound Smite is a large indication that it’s actually doing it

[bleak tulip]

some turnbonerd likely knew this was a bug in 13 but it didnt really matter

[still hearth]

What if its intentional

That would be something

[near wyvern]

it's effing not

[still hearth]

Then we just need a BB and Assail stafg

[rare storm]

This is the second theory/conspiracy

[still hearth]

Lets go

[rare storm]

[frail sand]

it's only a bug if it's not (yet) intentional

[viscid matrix]

It’s never intentional

[still hearth]

Everything is intentional to me until its fixed

[rare storm]

We will never know the mysterious ways of FS

[still hearth]

This game is too buggy to tell

[near wyvern]

when something buffs us, it's a bug, when something is not working as it is supposed to work, it's a hidden feature

[bleak tulip]

getting intentionally dodged by malding vets in pub lobbies

[still hearth]

Lmao

[rare storm]

It's a feature

[still hearth]

Vet chat told me Vet has better melee than Zealot

[viscid matrix]

Good, most cases those vets are not great anyway

[bleak tulip]

its always vets too its fuckin comical

[rare storm]

Throw back to yesterday when my vet purposely ran into daemonhosts to try and kill the entire team twice

[viscid matrix]

Vets don’t like being outshone by everyone

[bleak tulip]

I've hada zealot player just stand still for like minutes at a time when both me and another psyker brought bugged surge

but they didnt leave

[still hearth]

They were too used to being OP

[frail sand]

[bleak tulip]

they just coasted

[viscid matrix]

When they had op shit we didn’t afk in protest , they have no right to complain now

[frail sand]

look, it's not op, psykers just have better gaming socks

[still hearth]

They complained back then too

[bleak tulip]

psyker coder stockings

[still hearth]

Vets are the whiniest

Psykers have the best skirts too

[fluid knot]

Honestly why i only started putting in actual hours on Vet after P13

[near wyvern]

I had a very weird ass game yesterday. Had a Plague Ogryn spawn on the team, all the rest completely ignored him and a couple specials and continued pushing on. I had to solo the Plague Ogryn, the flamer and the mutant and obivously took some damge while doing so. No biggies I go for the slurp in health station. A chaos spawn enters, again, the team continues except the other psyker this time, I mostly tank the chaos spawn and then get hitted by a net through the monster. The other team members just let me be there in the net until I have 10% hp bar uncorrupted. I go for another slurp since there is a ledge and there is still some medicae left in the station. They vote kick me out.

weird shit

[still hearth]

I occasionally enjoyed the power trip but it really felt too easy back then

And if you didn't run the good nodes Vet felt pretty meh

[fluid knot]

Not only that, it was the mechanically least interesting. At least now there are choices that actually change how the class plays as opposed to only varying degrees of good at ranged combat

[eternal escarp]

old vet had the strongest melee, strongest grenade, strongest ranged (ignoring zealot flamer at the time) and had good toughness. felt so boring to play

[echo frigate]

You can vote kick people?

Tf

[timid fractal]

Menu > Social I believe

[echo frigate]

Oh boy no more bad randoms when I'm playing with my friends

[shell maple]

Inb4 griefing

[frail sand]

[timid fractal]

Can also make the game private then

[echo frigate]

But the AI aren't that good :/

[frail sand]

true duo gaming

[silk hawk]

So far on auric damnation i ever kicked only people that go afk forever...

[wet belfry]

If you run surge staff with bug dont expect me to come running to you when you need help

Hell id rather have you dead for the entire mission if i could choose.

[echo frigate]

Do people seriously not like people using bugs? Like if you win you gives a flying f

Who*

[wet belfry]

I dont care if we win ultimately

I care about how the game experience in itself is.

[echo frigate]

And surge is good but not that good, it randomly decides to not hit the people in front of you

[echo frigate]

Are 3 people dying per charge too many?

[wet belfry]

A surge staff nuking every single thing that dares approach us is not the defintion of engaging fun.,

[crude trout]

hey I had almost the same game yesterday but I engaged the plague ogryn and my three non-bot teammates ignored the plague ogryn and continued on

They started the map's mid event while I was soloing plague ogryn

[echo frigate]

I mean if your at low difficulties sure

[crude trout]

and vote kicked me

[wet belfry]

It doesnt matter difficulty

[crude trout]

with the plague ogryn's hp at around 60%-ish

and this was in normal damnation

[echo frigate]

But higher difficulties I promise there's enough elites to go around

[near wyvern]

weird people

[crude trout]

because it was a long day at work yesterday and I wanted to relax

so normal damnation for me

[near wyvern]

yeah I was playing auric but I got super confused why they would vote kick someone for nothing

[bright mica]

Just had this french guy call me a stupid dog for soloing the horde instead of reviving him

😭

[crude trout]

possibility that you joined a pre-made 3man and they were speedrunning? but weird why wont they set it to a private match if speedrunning then

[near wyvern]

if people wanna play private games then just put the lobby to private

[crude trout]

yeah

[near wyvern]

yeah that was my thought

but GL speedrunning with monstrosities on your ass

[bright mica]

They probably forgot to set it to private and wanted their 4th friend to join

[crude trout]

and saying that the boss didn't spawn is impossible since , you know, their HP shows in your UI

[near wyvern]

I guess this is the most plausible reason

just a bit dick move to do so without saying anything

[crude trout]

kinda sucks ass tho since, your 4th rando solo'd a boss and will attempt to kill yet another boss and then you kick them

like wut????

[shell maple]

Asking for a friend, how do i do the surge bug?

[crude trout]

hahhh

[near wyvern]

one time I was playing with my friends we asked a guy (just hot joined) if they could leave the mission so our friend could get in

he was kind, wished us good luck and left to another mission

[near wyvern]

which one?

the quick cast or the damage buff or the extra target?

you thought there was only one bug?

[sage glacier]

Based music taste friend

[crude trout]

wait there's a quick cast bug?

[echo frigate]

Empowered psionics

[echo frigate]

3 BUGS TF

[eternal escarp]

is quickcast quell cancel?

[near wyvern]

yup, cast Surge and immediately when you start hitting switch to your blitz and back to surge staff

[near wyvern]

can't quell cancel it but can blitz cancel it

which skips the whole animation but applies full damage

[crude trout]

ahh I thought there was a bug that allowed you to instantly charged up the surge

[eternal escarp]

right thought so cos i tried to qc it earlier didn't work

[shell maple]

Thank you friend, Layne forever ❤️

[eternal escarp]

actually speaking of, i was using your Deimos + Surge + Smite build earlier pygex and what do you do for boss/carapace? both deimos special and surge spam felt similar

[near wyvern]

aight, I listed all the three surge bugs to atheneum so if you are feeling lazy you can direct people there

[severe folio]

damn i blew myself up with scrier voidstrike than with purg

[near wyvern]

yeah gaze is risky with staves, you gotta learn to give up early enough

[rigid rune]

this seems useable

[frank moat]

Is Unyielding good on Trauma?

I figured it must be the worst stave for bosses

Though I guess if you're debuffing with brittle

[near wyvern]

no it's not

[orchid nest]

It does ok damage to beast of nurgle but yeah not great

[near wyvern]

i'd swap that unyielding to flak

@rigid rune that staff will do great things if you swap unyieling to flak and play it with warp siphon, inner tranquility, warp battery and battle meditation

will go on for days

[rigid rune]

Already running that lol

minus battle meditation

[near wyvern]

try it

[rigid rune]

I've got venting shriek which seems to work fine enough for peril management

[near wyvern]

battle meditation with flurry and inner tranq will make you giggle during hordes and mixed hordes

venting shreik is nice but drops your inner tranq stacks

[glossy ember]

ok maths wise, can surge make use of battle meditation?

[near wyvern]

if you are using inner tranq then yes, otherwise you can't tell the difference

[glossy ember]

or not enough horde killing power

whats inner tranq

[near wyvern]

bonus points for battery

[glossy ember]

hm

[near wyvern]

6*(-6%) = -36% peril cost

[zenith cosmos]

Can a psyker be a gun build or are other character just bettter

[glossy ember]

maybe i should run battle meditation but unsure if i'd make use of it over perma -5% peril gen

[rigid rune]

gun psy isn't bad but vet is the "gun class"

[near wyvern]

I did this using the Psylot build from Atheneum. You tell me.

[potent echo]

900k lmao

[zenith cosmos]

You should dm me the build and weapons Jesus

[heady garnet]

@near wyvern ayo drop the build??

[zenith cosmos]

Right

[broken carbon]

vet is also bad so

[near wyvern]

at the very bottom of the guide

[broken carbon]

really just do whatever

[rigid rune]

how could vet be bad?

[broken carbon]

weakest class right now

talents as a whole are just really weak

[heady garnet]

@rigid rune my boyfriend has played only vet since beta and I do more damage and utility than him with 50 hours in

[broken carbon]

doesn’t have the damage to keep up with the other classes

[heady garnet]

It's so tragic I feel so bad for him

[broken carbon]

nor the survivability

[broken carbon]

im the same way

my friend has a ton more hours than i do

n im just

better

lmao

[heady garnet]

I just right click and look in the general direction of something and hes fighting for his life trying to kill 2 ragers

[broken carbon]

he’s much better at vermintide than me

but i am better at shnarktide

[heady garnet]

YEAH I GENUINELY don't know if I've no lifed the current update or something but

[glossy ember]

the only two points i could drop for battle meditation, because I'm 100% sure battle meditation wouldn't outdps perilous combustion

[heady garnet]

Ever since patch dropped I've been doing big dam

[near wyvern]

you are using scrier's with trauma???

why

[heady garnet]

Can someone smarter than me explain this

It has the wall stun? Don't mutants stop and look dumb anyways if you dodge?

[broken carbon]

yeah

i think

idk

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[orchid nest]

wouldn't happen to be using surge stuff eh? :p

[silk hawk]

As smart space wizards saying enjoy the warp bugs till' it lasts 🙂

[heady garnet]

Deimos, purg, BB

[glossy ember]

no i said surge #psyker-class message

[heady garnet]

I had fun with surge but I didn't want to crutch on it then have them remove the bug

[near wyvern]

why scrier's with surge??? xD

[heady garnet]

RIP old nomanus cc

[near wyvern]

surge generates a ton of peril

[glossy ember]

yeah but it works

[coarse bane]

Deimos is great, I have a 380 with really good stats.

[near wyvern]

I would drop the movement speed from scrier's for battle medi

but then again

if you are really wanting to stack up on those warp siphons you would just take all out of scrier modifiers

cause you would want to be hanging on to those stacks

[coarse bane]

If they don't patch surge staff next patch than it might be intended.

[glossy ember]

huh?

but then i wouldn't use scrier

[near wyvern]

yes

except

during the very first fight

[glossy ember]

why would i do that

[silk hawk]

Or fs is just a bunch of goofballs 🙂

[glossy ember]

that doesn't sound really useful

might as well run a diff ult

[near wyvern]

cause inner trang + full battery is +24% damage and -36% peril cost all the time

unless you drop the stacks

by ulting

[glossy ember]

but you get them back real fast

by killing elites

[near wyvern]

assuming someone else doesn't get to finish the elites before you

[orchid nest]

could be a hotfix or patch any moment now. even if it doesn't contain a surge fix though it probably just means it's in the certification process still with microsoft for a patch coming up

[silk hawk]

Ye i rock surge with warp charges it's so good )

[near wyvern]

like some random fucker running Psylot build would ruin your day in a blink xD

[glossy ember]

that's why you blitz cancel (and pray it crits)

[near wyvern]

ew

[coarse bane]

https://tenor.com/view/malinda-yourenotwrong-notwrong-wrong-right-gif-19187634

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-cringe-gif-26303769

[glossy ember]

i mean i posted a few clips

it works

[near wyvern]

I have no doubt abusing a bug works

[glossy ember]

what

[heady garnet]

During my surge staff arc this happened

[glossy ember]

that's just ani cancelling

[heady garnet]

an assail psyker aggroed a demon host, it broke my mental and i just gave up 😭

[glossy ember]

every class can do it

hell I did it on ogryn heavy 1 when I wanted to bonk fast with shovel

[rare storm]

lmao

[near wyvern]

quell cancel is just animation cancelling, you cancel the after cast animation which is just some additional delay, blitz cancel on surge staff is a bit more than that since it cancels the animation but not the damage

[rare storm]

https://tenor.com/view/so-close-gif-4027381408540723786

[glossy ember]

well yeah so it cancels the animation

[near wyvern]

but not the damage

so it's not just an animation cancel

[glossy ember]

so is blitz cancelling an ogryn h1 to not have endlag on my shovel bonk not animation cancelling

even though i'm cancelling the animation

[silk hawk]

I wonder what is animation cancel stands for in your mind )))

[near wyvern]

skipping an animation that does nothing

[silk hawk]

That's just cancel...

[frank moat]

I think it would be more like animation cancelling an Ogryn H1 before the attack even starts but it still cleaves the full intended range

[frail sand]

please become useful sometime in the future

[glossy ember]

but the attack does start

[near wyvern]

this sibling gets it

[frank moat]

Normally if you cancel an attack it prevents the end lag but also prevents further damage

[orchid nest]

for what it's worth, they specifically went after and removed old surge staff cancels similar to that a little after launch

[glossy ember]

and it does prevent the initial damage

it just makes you do the final hit

none of the first ticks

[near wyvern]

luckily the ticks are the majority of the damage am I rite

[heady garnet]

BB crit when

[near wyvern]

never

[glossy ember]

i mean so is the first hit of an heavy

it's the majority of the damage

not the cleave

[silk hawk]

Ass sale nerf when

[heady garnet]

FUCK ASS SALE ALL MY HOMIES HATE ASS SALE

[rare storm]

Never say never, Sibling

We must believe

[glossy ember]

either way i doubt you can play surge with scrier without blitz cancelling to avoid overloading

[near wyvern]

You can go and abuse bugs all you want but I am not going to discuss the reality of a build if you playstyle is to abuse a clear bug 😅

[rare storm]

Chances are low... BUT WE MUST HAVE FAITH

[glossy ember]

alright

i'll agree to disagree

[frank moat]

Okay, it’s like if you put away your Purgatus right as it finishes charging

And then the entire 5 second gout of flame continues to come out while you’re free to block or swing a sword

[glossy ember]

quell cancelling surge lmb is like 30% faster or something no? sounds pretty strong as well

[heady garnet]

Does anyeone remember the mod that lets you track debuffs on enemies

[rare storm]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

[heady garnet]

Ily

[glossy ember]

i'd say sure if we had the entire lightning bolt that CCs that kept on going if I blitz cancel

but there's no cc

just the final damage tick

it's obviously advantageous for damage but you'll want to not cancel at times for the CC

[heady garnet]

Also will HISTG just throw shit at you constantly? Could I cheese warp battery with premades by just holding somewhere and letting endless mobs spawn?

[glossy ember]

but i mean

[heady garnet]

Or a map that's good for jt

[glossy ember]

quell cancelling is also a damage increase

so I guess that's a bug too

[still hearth]

But this has been around since the start

You could always cancel surge to do the damage

Is it intended or not

[glossy ember]

pretty sure ani cancels existed even in vermintide 2

intended or not

hell you got multiple form of cancels in darktide. blitz, quell, block, qq. Some ults cancel your animations too

[bleak tulip]

when in doubt all animation cancels are not intended unless literally tweaked and kept like quell cancel staff left click

[still hearth]

Surge bugged for a year

No one cared

[bleak tulip]

and even that might be on the chopping block now that they made it faster

[still hearth]

[rare storm]

tbh, if you really want you can do the assassination one, they usually throw elites along the fight

or the scanning mission with the giant corrupted tree at the end

[heady garnet]

Oh true

[glossy ember]

well i guess i'll keep abusing this bug that lets me play a fun build until fatsharp fixes it then

feels ep man

[near wyvern]

if that's what you like then be sure to enjoy it, it might be there for two years or two weeks, no one knows

[heady garnet]

Might do a private hab dreyko and just sandbag the last area

[glossy ember]

dw it'll be fixed next week

[frank moat]

Can I just quickly complain about how Psyker's Krieg set glove has a big fugly triangle out of place on the left ring finger

[heady garnet]

wonder if there's a mod that just shows me how long I've had my warp stacks

currently just using a stopwatch on my phone

[near wyvern]

no, you gave them your money, you lost

[still hearth]

Ops modelling

[rare storm]

[frank moat]

😫

[glossy ember]

i do. So I take it battle meditation > 20% movement speed

[near wyvern]

if you are going for the penance just go into any hi-int mission with proper grande final end fight and hope for the best, never ult

[rare storm]

eh no, it's too niche of a use case I guess

[near wyvern]

try it, you can always roll back if you don't notice a difference

[heady garnet]

I felt so bad never ulting and griefing my team 😭

[glossy ember]

fair

[rare storm]

just bring a nodeless venting shriek, it does nothing for the team so you won't feel bad

[glossy ember]

i don't think i kill enough hordes to make good use of it but maybe it'll make me melee more

[near wyvern]

listen to these new players crying about griefing by not ulting, they have no idea what the original penances were like 😂 😂 😂

[rare storm]

or a nodeless scriers

[heady garnet]

can't wait to do a melee scrier's build when 2 handed force swords come out

[rare storm]

that way it burdens the team and you

[near wyvern]

why wait, pick a devil's claw 4 and swing away

goes brrrr

during gaze

[heady garnet]

I've never used a devils claw before

[potent echo]

does claw have big finesse

[glossy ember]

ye

[plucky flax]

Claw 4 is cool but not as cool as illisi.

[heady garnet]

I'm a filthy scroll weapon swapper and it's a handicap but I like being able to quell on both weaposn

[rare storm]

Powered ilisi cleave is just too good to not use in a melee only build

[plucky flax]

Bruh I disable weapon swap on scroll wheel.

[glossy ember]

quelling on force sword always feels bad

[plucky flax]

Too many time I press special and accidentally swap weapon.

[glossy ember]

it's so slow compared to staff

same with blitz

[rare storm]

Your special is on scroll?

[plucky flax]

Because force sword doesn't have quell speed modifier.

[rare storm]

Are you a chivalry player

[plucky flax]

My special is middle mouse button.

Is that the default? Not sure.

[glossy ember]

ye, and you also move slower than staff no?

[near wyvern]

claw 4 was the best in patch #13 but got nerfed behind Illisi again

can't have that said

[plucky flax]

But default weapon swap is scroll up/down on the mouse scroll wheel so it interfere with my special button.

[glossy ember]

isnt it ridiculous with the rampage glitch

doubt illisi can compete vs current rampage can it

[silk hawk]

Since i started playing shooters in general i always unbind weapon swap from scroll...

[near wyvern]

I just run shred + savage sweep cause empathic evasion

[plucky flax]

Aye it's good idea.

[near wyvern]

rampage does increase your damage to initial targets yes

[plucky flax]

I don't mind pressing 1 or 2 to weapon swap.

[near wyvern]

but it also has a very good crit bonus

[glossy ember]

i got shred and devastating strike on mine

[rare storm]

This is the only way

[plucky flax]

In fact I am weird and I have weapon quick swap on B instead of Q.

[glossy ember]

but rampage increases cleave a bit too no?

[plucky flax]

So I do bb cancelling.

[glossy ember]

since it's power

[rare storm]

I unbinded quick swap

[still hearth]

Rampage is busted because it's bugged

[glossy ember]

so could run shred rampage

ya

[silk hawk]

Is it?

[still hearth]

Shred is alright for crit toughness

[plucky flax]

Hrm quick swap is nice for me on thumb press when I am strafing left.

[still hearth]

It also adds +50% damage

[glossy ember]

bug abuser

[still hearth]

They forgot to remove the old buff

[glossy ember]

./s

[zenith cosmos]

that build seems annoying you want to get peril upo then use a gun lol

[silk hawk]

Is that mean my ds will become schaise after they fix it?

[rare storm]

I think all the years of playing fps, I've just gotten used to used to different fingers swapping weps on 1/2

[still hearth]

38% power is still good but it won't be broken

[plucky flax]

Oh I have tag on Q since my battlefield bc2 days.

[rare storm]

honestly I just wish to have a secondary keybind to apply to actions

[silk hawk]

Wait it now give +38% and 50% on top, or just 50 instead of 38?

[near wyvern]

with slaughterer uncanny it can, cause that gives you +40% power and +120% (= +100%) rending, which totals at 1.25 * 1.4 = 1,75 damage multiplier. Rampage is 1.86 because of the +50% bug, so they are pretty close but Illisi can also do this against single targets

[glossy ember]

i see

[near wyvern]

and at some point, when the poxwalkers head comes off it comes off, more damage than that is often not needed

[still hearth]

Both

[near wyvern]

and with uncanny you can keep most of your damage against armoured targets, so you get even higher multipliers if your damage was reduced in the first place

[plucky flax]

You can.. with mods.

[rare storm]

Doesn't work, the modder hasn't updated/fixed issues in like 6months

[silk hawk]

So it's gonna be 50% flat dmg nerf to rampage users.... That's sad as fk....

[plucky flax]

Does it not? I'm pretty sure it works for me.

Gonna test right now.

[still hearth]

It's actually way more

Power and rampage multiplies

[rare storm]

It doesn't allow secondary keybindings of the primary/secondary weps and blitz

[still hearth]

You'll lose like 66% damage

[hollow jolt]

At least Savage Sweep is still pretty good c:

[rare storm]

sry wait blitz is fine

[hollow jolt]

at least it was for my Devil Claw shenanigans

[silk hawk]

I might be forced to switch to illisi....

[glossy ember]

just stop using rampage right now, it's not bad at all

still a strong horde weapon, just not completely dominating

[hollow jolt]

We need old Slaughterer back UwU

Give me my +100% power

[plucky flax]

So blitz works but primary/secondary weapons button don't for u?

[glossy ember]

Mine has shred + devastating strike and does pretty good still even if undertuned

[rare storm]

yep

[severe folio]

switch from rampage to shred

[plucky flax]

Tru it doesn't work on weapons.

[glossy ember]

i'm gonna try illisi again tho

[plucky flax]

1 and 2 it is.

[rare storm]

There's also the issue where if you reconfigure the controls one too many times, a chain of growing duplicates will appear

[silk hawk]

Ye i have my ds mk2 mainly bcuz it's good to deal with hordes, but if they will nerf 66% of dmg ....

[heady garnet]

yes ._.

[silk hawk]

Illisi will probably be much better choice

[glossy ember]

devil claw parry is goated in a pinch tho

[heady garnet]

idk what that is, I can deal with 80 keybinds on WoW but I have some sort of mental block with 5 keybinds in darktide

[glossy ember]

but ye uncanny strike too op

that shit broken

[near wyvern]

why mk2 over mk4?

[plucky flax]

Real homies run deflector slaughterer on illisi.

[severe folio]

i assume mk2 ds have cleave

[glossy ember]

deflector ehhh

[silk hawk]

It's bcuz u play wow in a "bit" slower temp xD

[glossy ember]

i got uncanny shred on mine

[rare storm]

Chivalry is a medieval melee game, solid game 10/10

[heady garnet]

pressing "q" to swap weapons is so hard 😭

[near wyvern]

that's cause the movement tempo and spatial awarness is totally different

[glossy ember]

swap to numbers

[heady garnet]

this is my first ever fps/first person game/slasher(?)

[glossy ember]

I use numbers to swap weapon, never q

[heady garnet]

before this I played exclusively league and WoW, so it's like a whole new world lol

[glossy ember]

it's closer to mmo skills too so should be better for u

[heady garnet]

numbers might help

[near wyvern]

this is the way

[silk hawk]

Faster lights and better horde cleave potential in general, while maintaining same armour pen capabilities

[heady garnet]

I do have q and e and shift as keybinds in WoW but I just always panic and forget

[severe folio]

prob why someone would use mk2

[glossy ember]

unyielding maniacs, it rocks. Not great stats tho a bit on the low end

but devil claw felt easier to use

[near wyvern]

meh, mk4 stabs are just too sweet

[glossy ember]

gonna force myself to play illisi more tho

[kind jay]

ive succumbed to knife

[severe folio]

we need a dueling sword that have stabbing light attack

[frail sand]

still farming knife and illisi on psyker

[silk hawk]

U can do same stabs with mk2... )

[near wyvern]

same here, I am a speed addict

[severe folio]

just a bunch of stabbing, and heavy make sweep

[heady garnet]

can someone explain to me the special attack on the dueling ssword and how its any different from an assassination attack

[severe folio]

its not different at all

they serve the same purpose

[kind jay]

knifeker is lifeker

[near wyvern]

yeah but you can't chain them back to back I.E. when fighting crushers or monstrosities. You gotta either block cancel or special cancel the chain.

[severe folio]

fast jab that stagger

you use special attack to stagger enemy

hit them in the head

[silk hawk]

It's low dmg, high stagger on wps

[heady garnet]

ohh i see

[silk hawk]

True, u mainly heavy-special, which is fine cuz u also stun lock them

[plucky flax]

Hrm actually easier to clear horde in a real game when there's latency and stuff.

[crude trout]

I also find it easier to dodge with latency

[glossy ember]

i gotta try out knife/recon build...

[near wyvern]

gl stunlocking plogryn xD

[crude trout]

trying to dodge the third hit of the plague ogryn combo while near him is difficult

[plucky flax]

I think this game has lag compensation.

[silk hawk]

Of i am target of that one i just heavy-block usually xD

[near wyvern]

@heady garnet special, heavy, heavy in action here. You can also special heavy special heavy .... to keep them staggered. Works against crushers, ragers and even charging mutants. Just gotta poke the head.

https://streamable.com/r274a7

[silk hawk]

If i am not i have bb

[crude trout]

it has alot of stagger esp on weakspot hit, able to stun a mutant with a special poke in the head.

altho you can just heavy poke a mutant in a head with some warp charges and peril to one shot it tho with warp rider

I find the poke useful in a mutant train

and also for crushers

[severe folio]

its gonna be hard to bb a plorgyn when its right at your face

and sure you gonna run back, but thats not happening everytime

sometime you gotta need a melee that let you stand and fight

[near wyvern]

on mutant trains do yourself a favour and just bring a deimos
https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c

[severe folio]

and sometime you gonna wish that melee can do more than that'

[silk hawk]

I bb when i am not a target, i specified it...

[crude trout]

oh yeah the OG penis sword

[near wyvern]

what can I say, it's rock solid

[severe folio]

i prefer them slightly stiff

[near wyvern]

I like them properly hardened

[severe folio]

i like them moderately solid

[near wyvern]

Also you want to lightly add oil to keep it maintained

[fluid knot]

Is this Zelaot chat?

[silk hawk]

U still talking about penis sword?

[severe folio]

maybe

[crude trout]

what is a piston when you cant hit the right spot

[near wyvern]

don't mind if I do

[idle bay]

Deimos is always stiffy for a good Poke

[near wyvern]

aye

[silk hawk]

I am giggling bcuz it reminds me of asmongold's penis rocket brand xD

[severe folio]

time to get the deimos

though i still prefer being able to stab consistently

deimos filler with that slash kind of offput it

[crude trout]

ever since I saw that particular review I cannot unsee its logo as a hammer

[severe folio]

but force sword, stabby

[silk hawk]

Same sht bro xD

[near wyvern]

the slash provides a really nice stagger so you can L1H2 dodge, it provides just enough time window for your dodges to reset so you can keep doing the combo

makes it really safe and very good DPS against horde as well if you can funnel them in to a doorway, just dodge sideways

the number 1 rule with Deimos is L1H2 is your optimal damage, always

light spam is good to use if you get surrounded with the occasional push tho, but as soon as you can go back to that L1H2

[silk hawk]

Any gta fans? Rockstar just announced gta 6 xD

[near wyvern]

but they aren't finished with gta 5 yet?

it's only 10 years old

[silk hawk]

Wdym?

Kekw

[near wyvern]

[silk hawk]

Idk about that

[severe folio]

man i just consecrate 3 deimos

all bricked

[vestal fulcrum]

Pygex, since you're here, I've a question

[near wyvern]

shoot it

[vestal fulcrum]

This thing - leave Elites or Crit chance

[potent echo]

crit chance kinda

[near wyvern]

I would swap elite damage for flak

it deals enough elite damage as it is

[silk hawk]

I say leave elites

[near wyvern]

and more cirts give perfet timing, mettle, empathic evasion

[potent echo]

i think leaving crit chance is much better

[silk hawk]

And swap crit for flak

[vestal fulcrum]

I've finally acquired a Columnus that can do on a Psylot

[potent echo]

crit gives you 5 in a row

thats alot more value that 8% elites

[vestal fulcrum]

Fair enough, cheers!

[plucky flax]

Columbus infantry has long crit string.

Veri op crit.

[summer prairie]

oh my deimos one-shots a mutant without maniac, warp charges or mettle (at 0 peril). Why am I running maniac again

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/columbus-day-christopher-columbus-gif-6093567

[near wyvern]

you have 80/80/80 damage finesse first target?

[severe folio]

damn

[still hearth]

The big sword

[near wyvern]

yup

[still hearth]

Is that the actual bp

[near wyvern]

could not just confirm that myself since I don't have that roll

[still hearth]

New mod out should help with that

[near wyvern]

slap +unyielding on it

[still hearth]

Assuming it works properly

[summer prairie]

sadly only t3 flak as the locked perk and t3 deflector

[near wyvern]

:/

[silk hawk]

To oneshot ragers?

[summer prairie]

I think I'm just taking stamina because I don't need anything and tanking a DH without any stamina isn't happening without good terrain

[silk hawk]

Just use one of relics with stamina +3...

And go woth idk, undying on weapon

[summer prairie]

I'll rather sacrifice a weapon perk, I think

[silk hawk]

For boss dmg

Well u do you i guess...

[summer prairie]

the only time I'm focusing on a boss is when there's nothing else around or if everyone else is dead

if there's nothing else, my boss dps barely matters

[silk hawk]

Undying is also bulwarks and reapers

[summer prairie]

well they get staggered

[silk hawk]

So as u wish then )

[frank moat]

I always forget Bulwarks are unyielding for some reason

[bleak tulip]

ogryn

thats why

reapers are too, just not the places with armor

old image

[frail sand]

gunpsyker really is slightly different

[summer prairie]

oh wait nm it doesn't one-shot without maniac, grinder just doesn't update weapon perks properly when crafting from within

need mettle/warp charges otherwise

[crude trout]

so light spam for hordes on Deimos?

[summer prairie]

you can still infinite kite a DH with just deimos dodges, just have to block some hits when you need to reset dodges

[potent echo]

is there a way to practice for DH in the grinder?

[summer prairie]

bot spawner

so it doesn't immediately leave

[potent echo]

oh you need bots

thanks

[vague chasm]

guys what do you suggest as a good melee backup for my psyker? mainly looking for something to thin enemies around me in case of emergency

i know it's a very broad question but I'm totally clueless in this regard

[shell maple]

Force V

[stable silo]

hows this build look lads

[vague chasm]

thanks, will look into it

[plucky flax]

Too excessive up top and no warp rider.

[stable silo]

hah fair

should u keep the toughness on crit talents and drop the toughness gen or opposite

[idle bay]

One more week of farming to have a next shot on decent Blaze+ Nexus Trauma....

[plucky flax]

What weapon are you using?

If it's crit weapon the toughness on crit is enough, I'd drop soulstealer.

And the toughness on peril gain.

Anyway whatever build you do always pick combustion and warp rider.

They both provide free damage.

[left mirage]

is rampage still bugged

or is it only bugged on certain weapons

[summer prairie]

should be bugged on all of them because the bug is in the base template

[idle bay]

With Combustion there is hard choice for me - it's either other things in tree and will do that damage somehow else. Or it took Combustion and barely use it 🙂

[plucky flax]

It works on any build, any weapon and it has a cap of 31 stacks. So in mixed horde if you manage to land the killing blows on elites it's just loads of free damage. And you only need 2 points investment to get to that talent so it's a very easy pick.

[pearl quest]

someone please help me getting to level 30, every team i join can't even make it halfway through a t3 mission, im losing my mind

[stable silo]

i changed the top talents to added warp rider and the 5% crit node

[split oxide]

What is AutoQuell? (is that when Peril degrades naturally?)

[silk hawk]

If u are going for crits i suggest to switch to mid aura and grab immune on crits

[idle bay]

How much of failing halfway do you think due to team and how much on your behalf? I mean little self-analyzing and understading your own weaknesses and mistakes helps a lot to improve

[silk hawk]

Go lower difficulty?

[idle bay]

@pearl quest are you using headphones and do you took notice of melee-attack audio-cues? And special audio-cues. Directional sound in Darktide allows you to be like blind swordman - dodging and blocking whoiutot even taking a look.

[near wyvern]

What are you trying to accomplish with your build?

[near wyvern]

Yes

[quasi jacinth]

Has anyone noticed with the recent Patch 14, that Brain Burst has been acting very weird? I don't know if it is me or not... I check as my ping is around 40-60 consistently. This wasn't an issue until this patch. I have noticed it happens at least 20% of time using the blitz especially happens with long-range targets more often.

Examples:

• It keeps changing targets mid-charge when the target itself isn't even dead.
• Sometimes it targets the wrong person when I pinged an elite/special. It used to prioritize pinged enemies within hordes.
• Holding right charge to full sometimes fails to burst a target as it recharges again when left clicking.

[summer prairie]

the last issue is due to the rmb charge not properly accounting for faster charge time from EP or kinetic resonance

[quasi jacinth]

Wow, seriously? At least that answers that for me.

[near wyvern]

Also the moment you press LMB during your RMB channel you are going to generate more peril per second. If you go RMB always cook it fully/almost full before LMB

[vague chasm]

hadron wasn't very kind to me, tips for the upgrades?

[still hearth]

Did BB ever have prio targeting

I never felt it

[still hearth]

It's dead

[near wyvern]

It does I think but you gotta aim at nothing for it to prio. I like to jump and aim over heads.

[severe folio]

its dead

[quasi jacinth]

When I pinged elites and specials, it always liked targeting those ones over the others. At least from my experience using Brain Burst often.

[vague chasm]

T-T

[severe folio]

feel the same way

trying to get a deimos

[still hearth]

I wouldn't call that prio targeting...

[near wyvern]

Bricked. Not even good as a flame meme.

[summer prairie]

pinging and then sweeping from above while holding lmb is pretty reliable

[near wyvern]

Well you can swap out both blessings if you don't have better

[still hearth]

Yeah but elites and specials are taller than normal mobs

[vague chasm]

I'll probably try my luck some more but yeah I'll probably swap both blessings

[near wyvern]

@vague chasm slap uncanny + slaughterer or slaughterer + deflector on it, perfectly usable until you get better

[summer prairie]

it does seem to target shorter targets such as hounds through a horde but it's not reliable

[still hearth]

Maybe it priorities heads in the vicinity

[summer prairie]

maybe yeah

[still hearth]

So if you look down it's more likely to hit the dog

[near wyvern]

Whatever the reason, if it works it works.

[still hearth]

[vague chasm]

thanks, still haven't gotten slaughterer but I'll farm a bit, thanks guys

[still hearth]

Truly the DT motto

If it works it works

[vague chasm]

dayum just rolled this, has it better chances out in the world?

[near wyvern]

Yes, if you want to be hedonistic Executor into Slaughterer and specialist damage into maniac of flak depending on how hard you want to slap mutants.

If you want to play the long game you want to sacrifice this and bank the Executor blessing.

Before you decide you should know Executor is bad in this patch (resets on dot effects, resets if you hit a head and then another enemy body on same swing) but things can obviously change each patch. It might also take hundreds of hours before you see Executor 4 again or you might see it again tomorrow.

Hard choices. If I were you I would be happy with the previous sword and bank the T4 blessing from this one or wait to see it again on another sword before putting this one to use. Farming blessings is a pain.

[vague chasm]

luckily I have executor on another weapon shat on by hadron

[severe folio]

man

the worst zealots isnt the one with knives

[vague chasm]

at leve 4 i mean

[severe folio]

its the one with the thammer

[vague chasm]

so I'm good

thanks for the tips man!

[near wyvern]

If it's worse than this one then sacrifice the other and make this one a Deflector + Slaughterer

[vague chasm]

Will do, off to farm blessings then ahah

[near wyvern]

GL, you gonna need it

[lapis linden]

anyone else have an invisible stub revolver as psyker?

[near wyvern]

Happens in psych

"use the iron sights"
" You guys have sights?"

[lapis linden]

for the first 5 minutes i didnt even notice the revolver had missing parts i just thought the iron sights was awful

[grizzled iris]

Not to say that the thammer is bad, but the people using it generally are.

[still hearth]

Most players are bad

So that checks out

[heady garnet]

Regretting making my psyker super duper short so I don't body block people as much 😭

[grizzled iris]

Sadly this is also true

[still hearth]

Use the mods

[grizzled iris]

So change it?

[heady garnet]

I did not know that

[still hearth]

Mods save the day

All my humans are max height now

[heady garnet]

It still shows up taller for other people to?

[grizzled iris]

Yes

It is a permanent chang3

However you can change it by just using the mod again

[heady garnet]

That's insane Holy crap

[grizzled iris]

The option to change height and shit is in the game, just not available to the player. The mod just goes in and lets you use it

[plucky flax]

I need gender and voice change now.

[grizzled iris]

No mod for that yet

[silk hawk]

Name of the mod pls.

[grizzled iris]

However there is a mod to give you 8 total character slots

[grizzled iris]

Heightchanger

[silk hawk]

Tnx

[grizzled iris]

Read the "How to use" on the nexus page

[silk hawk]

Now i can switch height of my psyker named DemHesSmol to max height huehuehue

[heady garnet]

Is there a "best height" in terms of melee combat?

[silk hawk]

Max, to reach ogryn heads

[heady garnet]

🙏 can't wait for easier voidstrike headshots

It was so awkward aiming up or doing a little hop

[silk hawk]

But u will be blocking ally sight too 🙂

[plucky flax]

I sort of want about 80+ with the mod.

To easily headshot mobs in melee.

I have my psyker at 85, zealot at 90, and vet at 100.

[silk hawk]

And also of your max height ots harder to hide behind low obsticles

[grizzled iris]

Psyker 438, Zealot1 445, Zealot2 93, Veteran 198, Ogryn 140

[heady garnet]

I should be able to summon and equip platform boots from the warp on comma d

[grizzled iris]

Or we talking height?

[plucky flax]

[grizzled iris]

Cuz then 445 is a bit tal xD

[plucky flax]

100 is max height.

You must be a giant.

[grizzled iris]

Plague ogryn size

[heady garnet]

Plague ogyrn ogyrn mod when

[potent echo]

alright you trauma blaze lovers

what should i change last on this

[grizzled iris]

Here it comes

[plucky flax]

If you want to know my tru lvl

[heady garnet]

Is true level retroactive?

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[grizzled iris]

Playtime?

[plucky flax]

Some afk hours but not that much really.

I don't leave the game running for hours or when I sleep.

I do a lot of meatgrinder memeing though.

[potent echo]

@plucky flax you like flakmaniac or something else for blaze trauma?

[plucky flax]

Flak crit chance.

[grizzled iris]

So you either use xp curios or a shit ton of speedrunning

[potent echo]

understandable

[plucky flax]

I don't use xp curios.

[grizzled iris]

Since you over level me by a lot and I got 600 more hours

[plucky flax]

And I only play solo queue.

I don't have frens to play with.

[heady garnet]

🙋 I'll be fren

[silk hawk]

Imagine using xp curios to flex with your true level )))

[plucky flax]

I know a guy who does it.

[heady garnet]

That's hysterical lmao

[plucky flax]

His total level is probably 3000+.

[silk hawk]

No fking way xD

[heady garnet]

Does it show other people as well?

[plucky flax]

It's tru he's a beast.

[vestal fulcrum]

I run Ordo curios basically all the time, but this is a little obscene

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can check other players in the game their tru lvl.