it really nessecary?
#psyker-class
eternal escarp
bold maple
power sword + power recycler is some serious drug ngl
eternal escarp
but tbf not sure what else would be an upgrade
potent echo
it really nessecary?
25% faster kill time, so maybe it's important, maybe not
severe folio
it really nessecary?
its mostly because i run it with soulblaze, and if you bring out a ds with unyielding, the soulblaze tick suddenly have unyielding
ornate hamlet
Push attack, light light
eternal escarp
its mostly because i run it with soulblaze, and if you bring out a ds with unyie...
oic thats funny
ornate hamlet
Push attack and light already puts them at dangerously low health
potent echo
For my soulblaze build, its alot more valuable
silk hawk
U can if passive bb proc on cast
severe folio
U can if passive bb proc on cast
yeah forget relying on that every 15 second, buh uh
silk hawk
)
severe folio
and even if it does
silk hawk
But u can!
sonic whale
I just like the appeal of psykers being psykers rather then gun totting "I cast gun." and I know the Psyker can do good DPS with things but it shouldn't be trying to one tap everything as I feel that's outsidethe soul of the game
severe folio
psyker holding guns is perfectly normal
sonic whale
I'd rather work together to kill a boss monster then one tap it or three tap it
potent echo
I think it's because you haven't tried auric Maelstroms
severe folio
psykers in the imperium can be guards who carry guns
not all psyker carry staff, not all psyker can afford staff
potent echo
I don't want to do too much damage, meanwhile 10 mutants are swarming your team
silk hawk
psyker holding guns is perfectly normal
What is the point of playing psyker if u are going for a gun....
Just switch to vet
eternal escarp
he doesnt know
severe folio
What is the point of playing psyker if u are going for a gun....
whats the point of having guns if youre not going to use it
new flash
bold maple
I just like the appeal of psykers being psykers rather then gun totting "I cast ...
yeah I think the opposite, psyker can have a gun with magic tricks with blitz too, having 0 weakness of gun using classes
severe folio
gun is available for everyone
potent echo
Yea why use gun as zealot just play vet
spice veldt
the skill issue of a blitz that has a charge time of 2 seconds by default, so the damage and stagger isn't frontloaded unlike most weapons
sonic whale
What is the point of playing psyker if u are going for a gun....
That's the kind of mentality I have but I am getting aware that I'm kind of trying to be the fun-police so I'm moving back a little from my stance
potent echo
Why use melee as psyker just play zealot
ornate hamlet
It's a bad mentality
eternal escarp
gaze revolver 2shotting crushers
spice veldt
the skill issue of having 1.5k hours with brain burst before patch 13
and having my kills taken because brain burst is slow
potent echo
gaze revolver 2shotting crushers
Tbh both zealot and vet can do this too lol
spice veldt
truly, it is my own skill and not brain burst
silk hawk
That's the kind of mentality I have but I am getting aware that I'm kind of tryi...
They can do whatever they want, i just think it's stupid... That's it.
eternal escarp
Tbh both zealot and vet can do this too lol
ok yea but like ssshhh
ornate hamlet
People can't even excuse it with "muh lore" because warp powers aren't just damaging space magic
sonic whale
the skill issue of a blitz that has a charge time of 2 seconds by default, so th...
Ok? So deal with that, it's part of the system of that ability. It's part of the gimmick in my opinion so people should be ready to accept that it's not going to act as well as a gun maybe
ornate hamlet
You have psykers that augment their physical abilities and turn into death machines
potent echo
People stealing my brain burst kills means people are mean
spice veldt
Ok? So deal with that, it's part of the system of that ability. It's part of the...
yes, it is a part of brainburst, which is why I don't like it?
bold maple
you ever seen a powerful psyker getting gimped just cause he doesn't have a staff? fuck no powerful psykers zap the world with their hands
spice veldt
why do people like to say "it's not part of its design" as if it were a defense
sonic whale
yes, it is a part of brainburst, which is why I don't like it?
Then that's fair
severe folio
people cant really excuse it with anything becaude no matter what, the most powerful augmentation is when you combine the best of both world
bold maple
I hate using staff cause of it
ornate hamlet
The fun of psyker is that you can make your psyker be any kind of psyker that the game supports
In fact, scrier's gaze is one such example
spice veldt
I've long accepted that brainburst isn't going to be as good as a gun
ornate hamlet
It's the warp version of volley fire
spice veldt
which is why I'm currently shitting on brainburst
I think I'm being very consistent right now
eternal escarp
brainburst is fantastic just dont use it like its a primary weapon
ornate hamlet
You use the warp to buff yourself to then deal more damage with whatever shit you decide to hold in your hands
That's a psyker
potent echo
Tbh scrier can be alot better than it is now
summer prairie
did you see this arcotash https://streamable.com/amyqnd
ornate hamlet
Limiting oneself to staves is following an arbitrary nonsensical metric
sonic whale
It's the warp version of volley fire
Which begs the question of "Why" when Volley Fire already exists on another class? Granted the only reason I can see it existing is to make gun psyker viable but idk Scriers Gaze feels half baked as an Idea BUT I haven't used it enough to get a fair opinion on it's use outside of the meat grinder
summer prairie
well it's about the cast time, not killing maniacs
it's 1.4s or whatever with all animations included
ornate hamlet
People can definitely do that if that's the kind of psyker they want, but they can never have truth in saying that gun psyker is bad because psyker + gun doesn't exist or wahtever
fading patrol
the skill issue of having 1.5k hours with brain burst before patch 13
Bb only useful for popping first specialist and true aim brain rub imo
Or rng flayer shenanigans
potent echo
The thing about gun psyker is that you don't need to run gaze
silk hawk
It's like picking a mage class to play Hunter
ornate hamlet
Psyker is not a mage class
spice veldt
it's 1.4s or whatever with all animations included
oh they finally made the cast speed apply properly instead of having diminishing returns now?
severe folio
dont think of it as a mage class
summer prairie
no
severe folio
its not a mage class
ornate hamlet
Psyker is a magical class
summer prairie
it's reverse grenade cancelling BB
sonic whale
Like maybe make Scriers gaze a vision where when activated it makes you 'see' through the warp and all colours disappear but you bullets have infinite rend until it hits the highlighted specialists...Actually that is just stealing from Volley fire again isn't it?
summer prairie
i'm switching to my staff and then back after it kills
ornate hamlet
Think of it as using spells in D&D
spice veldt
o
ornate hamlet
Clerics have spells, they're divine
spice veldt
time to being doing that
sonic whale
did you see this arcotash https://streamable.com/amyqnd
Doing the strats
ornate hamlet
Paladins have spells, they're also divine
Paladins are infinitely more melee-oriented than clerics
Rangers have spells, they're nature
summer prairie
it's awkward though, especially if you are already grenade cancelling your staff attacks the other way, like you are going to mess it up
ornate hamlet
They have a different set of spells and are a combat class that uses a bow and two melee weapons
potent echo
Paladins are infinitely more melee-oriented than clerics
DND has.. long since lost all archetypes
ornate hamlet
But they still have spells
spice veldt
i should have some muscle memory from assail
potent echo
Other than real meta builds you can run any class and any loadout
spice veldt
it'll help that I have my blitz key on [X] instead of [G], probably
ornate hamlet
Psyker is basically grabbing the very loose concept of "can cast magic"
summer prairie
but if you have to do g, 2 for staff and 2, g for bb
potent echo
Some subclass will probably get you covered
summer prairie
good luck
lunar hollow
it'll help that I have my blitz key on [X] instead of [G], probably
cheater
ornate hamlet
While scrier's gaze is not exactly the greatest ability ever, you have some little synergies that help with it
silk hawk
Why is super good....
ornate hamlet
One of them is warp rider, formerly warp unleashed
spice veldt
I'd remove kinetic flayer because it's not a particularly interesting upgrade
lunar hollow
kinetic flayer suffers from the same problem as that stupid fucking 10% chance to throw a second grenade talent on vet
spice veldt
and just slap wrack & ruin back into the game
sonic whale
One of them is warp rider, formerly warp unleashed
Warp rider is basically a must for all builds
lunar hollow
it's stupid and just shouldnt really exist
severe folio
its not an interesting upgrade because its functionally worthless atm
lunar hollow
u cant build around it or depend on it
severe folio
but the idea of proccing bb when you are not doing bb
ornate hamlet
If you're not using force weapons, SG is one of two ways you can access warp rider's damage bonus
severe folio
is a good idea
lunar hollow
it's literally like "i have a point and no other option that does anything"
frail sand
okayge i has a blazing trauma loadout that's going to be stashed 
ornate hamlet
Ergo you can use a dueling sword and a revolver and still benefit from warp rider
spice veldt
warp rider gives +10% damage at 0% peril so it's not as bad
sonic whale
But this is why I like BB, you can just 'grab' someone and with 90% of enemies guarenteed instant kill you just need to wait the two or three seconds to splat
ornate hamlet
Oh, it still does that?
spice veldt
ye
ornate hamlet
Fatshark
There's also the toughness DR node, though I don't remember if SG can get that
Some paths locking others out is really stupid
spice veldt
I dislike playstyles that hang back, so I'm never taking advantage of the range advantage except against trappers/bombers/snipers
severe folio
But this is why I like BB, you can just 'grab' someone and with 90% of enemies g...
can gurantee to kill all of those guys on your screen with a columnus and scrier
lunar hollow
Some paths locking others out is really stupid
the psyker tree is probably my least favorite
ornate hamlet
They fixed it to only affect ranged?
severe folio
but faster
potent echo
Yea 2.5 seconds is a really long ttk
ornate hamlet
I'mma be honest, the vet tree is my favorite of the human classes
lunar hollow
the design is bizarre and i do not feel like there is enough real variety in the builds because of how the talents are laid out
potent echo
Revolver is point and click
severe folio
the design is bizarre and i do not feel like there is enough real variety in the...
lack of crossover
potent echo
I'mma be honest, the vet tree is my favorite of the human classes
Don't let vet chat see this, you will never hear the end of it
ornate hamlet
Zealot tree is the one I'd put at the bottom between the 3 classes I play
potent echo
Travel nodes and talent tax and whatnot
lunar hollow
the zealot tree has one thing i dont like and its blazing piety and beyond that its good
sonic whale
can gurantee to kill all of those guys on your screen with a columnus and scrier
I have to admit I think I've only realised it, but I don't want the ulta-tryhard meta-strat this feels fun to me and I feel like I am criticising gunpsykers too much in retrospect
ornate hamlet
Benediction is a no-brainer, beacon of purity is a bit "why" and loner promotes being a little shit
lunar hollow
the psyker tree feels like ur only main differences are blitz and ult
potent echo
Using a gun, ultra meta tryhard
severe folio
I have to admit I think I've only realised it, but I don't want the ulta-tryhard...
gunpsyker are very far from meta
lunar hollow
because warp charges are designed poorly now and disrupt destiny doesnt work properly sometimes
ornate hamlet
Chastise is goated, chorus is boring as fuck and shroudfield is the worst part of VT2 shade brought back
severe folio
due to, ammo reason
potent echo
The cogs are turning
eternal escarp
assail + laspistol is very meta
lunar hollow
gunpsyker are very far from meta
not true in the slightest
severe folio
not true in the slightest
then where are they
lunar hollow
ammo is never a concern if u have a survivalist vet on the team and if u dont the ammo priority is basically equal
ornate hamlet
So my zealot is always benediction + chastise + blazing or that funny movement keystone
sonic whale
Also I kind of Lump gun Psykers at least before reflecting in the same 'bubble' as the Stealth 'running miles ahead' Zealot or vet. Just feels weird to my head
eternal escarp
then where are they
meta doesnt mean popular
potent echo
Name me one game where everyone was red ammo and the lose condition was lack of ammo
severe folio
ammo is never a concern if u have a survivalist vet on the team and if u dont th...
you know you basically just said “if your team is right”
potent echo
Like it's not a real drawback
lunar hollow
there's not a meta anymore so much as there is abusing bugged loadouts that are ridiculously strong and then everything else
ornate hamlet
It doesn't vary from that, except maybe I start at the right instead of the left because of crit
lunar hollow
you know you basically just said “if your team is right”
nope
you're not understanding
silk hawk
then where are they
Somewhere at the bottom xD
lunar hollow
if you have a survivalist vet, ammo is never going to run out
lunar hollow
if you don't have a vet with survivalist, every class is roughly equally ammo efficient
ornate hamlet
Like, the vet tree is awesome
potent echo
Even if you don't have a survivalist vet
severe folio
i mean
lunar hollow
almost every pub vet ive seen takes survivalist
ornate hamlet
You get the mercenary shout
severe folio
a voidstrike psyker wont have that problem
ornate hamlet
You get krak grenade
potent echo
I'm pretty sure I never had a game where everyone ran out of ammo in 700 hours
severe folio
no matter the team aura setup
bold maple
pub vet here, I take survivalist lmao
ornate hamlet
You get grenade refills
spice veldt
a voidstrike psyker wont have that problem
and ammo isn't going to be a problem if you just use your other weapons
lunar hollow
the only time gunpsykers were "ammo inefficient" was when they didnt have significant ranged damage buffs
eternal escarp
the other vet aura suck so much as well lmao, 3% damage?
ornate hamlet
You get consumable pack buffs
sonic whale
if you have a survivalist vet, ammo is never going to run out
And +25% total ammo
bold maple
I never run out of ammo and barely even pick up ammo boxes with plasma
ornate hamlet
You get the entirety of the middle tree
spice veldt
i legitimately see ammo issues as a "just melee more" issue
severe folio
and ammo isn't going to be a problem if you just use your other weapons
regardless, is gunpsyker a meta ?
spice veldt
especially nowadays
ornate hamlet
The left tree has some really dope shit
And the right tree turns vet into a melee murder machine
sonic whale
regardless, is gunpsyker a meta ?
Yes
lunar hollow
gunpsyker is perfectly viable. trying to define what is and isn't meta is fairly pointless now because of how much more stuff is at least viable, if not good
ornate hamlet
And to top it off, vet stealth doesn't do that stupid one hit that zealot's does
bold maple
The left tree has some really dope shit
what does left tree have for plasma gun and bolter
ornate hamlet
And it suppresses enemies on exit
bold maple
im trying out vet and left looks kinda useless
spice veldt
regardless, is gunpsyker a meta ?
finesse guns are a proper meta depending on whatever definition is being used and I'm not getting into that
severe folio
i see
bold maple
unless you use lasgun
lunar hollow
a columnus iag scriers psyker can output a stupidly high amount of burst damage
ornate hamlet
For plasma you get exhilarating takedown and weakspot damage
silk hawk
We need some true meta slaves here with proof
severe folio
im glad i was on the meta before i knew it is a meta then
harsh urchin
gunpsyker is aite, it's just overshadowed by surge being straight up bugged and voidstrike still being strong as fuck
ornate hamlet
Weakspot can help hit breakpoints
spice veldt
guns also have the issue of requiring the user to aim
sonic whale
Tbh waiting for a non-meta Gun Psyker to use a lasgun or laspistol, but this is more of a joke statement
bold maple
I never bother hitting headshots with plasma lmao
lunar hollow
u should
bold maple
just dont have to since the dmg is so high
hoary badge
I've never noticed myself running out of ammo as a gunpsyker, you offload a lot of ammo sponges onto your blitzs
potent echo
And position
lunar hollow
plasma has head magnetism
severe folio
guns also have the issue of requiring the user to aim
same problem with voidstrike
ornate hamlet
Suppression immunity a bit down helps tremendously with the MG12 and makes it goated against non-carapace enemies
sonic whale
same problem with voidstrike
Not really
harsh urchin
also, scrier's gaze being kinda meh and DD being a buggy mess doesnt help
lunar hollow
i got bored of mgxii in like january lol
ornate hamlet
Like, you can't play MG12 without suppression immunity anymore
It's another idiot combo the game has that I love
dense bramble
MG12 is kinda ass. Too slow
lunar hollow
also, scrier's gaze being kinda meh and DD being a buggy mess doesnt help
scrier's has one fundamental design issue that mostly exists because they decided to revert being unable to chain volleyfire
bold maple
I take survivalist then go back to middle and take command shout instant rez
sonic whale
Like with guns you have to be exact with voidstrike you can pretty much fire no recoil and also have the small AOE bubble of hitting
lunar hollow
and has a hardcap on time limit
bold maple
so I dont have enough point to go all the way to supression immunity
ornate hamlet
But my favorite is going down most of the middle
severe folio
you still gonna aim more with voidstrike than you did with any other staff
sonic whale
MG12 is kinda ass. Too slow
Try the uhh Small one, the MG4? It's really fun right now
harsh urchin
scrier's has one fundamental design issue that mostly exists because they decide...
yep
lol
it's basically volleyfire
except worse
ornate hamlet
Taggable toughness regen + gloryhunter + that talent that regens people's toughness according to your regen
dense bramble
Try the uhh Small one, the MG4? It's really fun right now
Ive been enjoying the IAG
hoary badge
I run warp charges on scriers and I feel I always have it up
ornate hamlet
A plasma vet with the middle tree and some left turns into a wallhacking terminator
potent echo
I run warp charges on scriers and I feel I always have it up
It still doesn't work btw
ornate hamlet
I would get bored of using it if it wasn't so fucking meaty
potent echo
Warpsiphon doesn't reduce scrier cd
lunar hollow
warp charges only applies the CDR if you start scriers at 100 peril lmao
sonic whale
you still gonna aim more with voidstrike than you did with any other staff
Yeah but that was my goto staff before branching out this week to actually see what a Smite and Soulblaze build is like, and I have to admit, not as much raw damage output but very good utility and teamwork
dense bramble
Vent is my only option because I require many chances to not explode
sonic whale
Ive been enjoying the IAG
IAG?
ornate hamlet
Vet also has another thing, which is the no-ammo las crit
severe folio
what do you mean voidstrike dont have a lot of raw damage output ?
sonic whale
Ahh
lunar hollow
Vet also has another thing, which is the no-ammo las crit
this just has to go
talent has to be deleted basically
ornate hamlet
Suddenly headhunter recon is dumb
ornate hamlet
Mk3 helbore gets massive ammo sustain
sonic whale
Never really tried the Inf guns other then Tutorial because I wanted that Guard laser experience
bold maple
we turning this into a vet channel
ornate hamlet
MG12 gets stupider
lunar hollow
now it only applies to the first crit on a crit string and recons only have 2 crits per string
ornate hamlet
Fatshark
sonic whale
talent has to be deleted basically
Why?
lunar hollow
because infinite ammo on a gun that is supposed to have an ammo economy
is terrible
mind-numbingly stupid that it got shipped to live
sonic whale
I do melee vet with Voice of Command, gun vet with Volley Fire
hoary badge
Didn't exactly confirm the cdr rate but I didn't feel the downtime was an issue
ornate hamlet
Lick a dude with a knife light, follow with a heavy and that's your mercy killer right there
severe folio
Didn't exactly confirm the cdr rate but I didn't feel the downtime was an issue
doesnt change the fact that its not workin
dense bramble
because infinite ammo on a gun that is supposed to have an ammo economy
Survivalist is the bigger issue there
hoary badge
Must have been psykinetic pulling its weight
sonic whale
Also as melee vet is the only time I will bring out the plasma or Boltgun as they are ammo intensive
spice veldt
Why?
it's specific to certain weapons, and it's not going to be easy to balance if you ever decide to open it up to all weapons
ornate hamlet
Or whatever was the headshot damage on bleeding enemy blessing
lunar hollow
Survivalist is the bigger issue there
it doesn't change the fact that talent is problematic in almost every way
including weapon exclusivity, and again, completely nullifying ammo economy anyways
spice veldt
the previous vet keystones were removed specifically because they were weapon-specific and boring
ornate hamlet
Honestly
ornate hamlet
Let's get real fucking idiotic
spice veldt
shocktrooper somehow remained despite having the same problems as the previous vet keystones
ornate hamlet
Gets hot + deadshot fixed to work with plasma + plasma considered a las weapon
Do it Fatshark
lunar hollow
deadshot will never work with plasma
ornate hamlet
Don't be a pussy
severe folio
haha never
lunar hollow
for as long as it has a pinpoint accurate hipfire
because the intended purpose of deadshot is supposed to be recoil reduction and the crit chance is a nice addition
but they kinda fucked up implementation
ornate hamlet
I want my plasma crits, fatshark
dense bramble
Dont talk about plasma being too good its finally where I always wanted it
sonic whale
Make Plasma overload and Psyker Perils count as a crit hit Fatshark, spread the soul blaze
lunar hollow
Dont talk about plasma being too good its finally where I always wanted it
plasma still has multiple really bad design issues
ornate hamlet
Plasma has been good since before the turbobuffed it tbh
lunar hollow
charge rate bug, left click always being the more efficient option, etc
ornate hamlet
It's honestly my favorite vet weapon and the one I truly excel at
plucky flax
Plasma so much better than voidstrike is not fair. 
dense bramble
Plasma has been good since before the turbobuffed it tbh
I know its my fav too. If they nerf it itll be sad.
lunar hollow
another idiotic choice was giving the left click 50 cleave
dense bramble
Plasma so much better than voidstrike is not fair. <:FeelsStrongMan:88092568041...
Psyker gets assail and duel/force swords
lunar hollow
which is basically as much as u could ever need anyways
sonic whale
Yeah right clicks damage is not even that good in my XP, would like it if the round did a drop like it did in Space Marine? As that would be fun if it had an AOE and dropped quickly. Sure another Grenade launcher type but it works imo
lunar hollow
so u dont really even have to charge it to cleave bad guys
ornate hamlet
I think they can effectivelly kill plasma by making it swap at the same speed as bolter
plucky flax
Nooooo not my quick swap plasma
ornate hamlet
Nothing else is needed
dense bramble
Dont talk like this
dense bramble
Plasma is bae
ornate hamlet
And more damage
bold maple
yeah whats up with that, I noticed it too
potent echo
Plasma has that delayed shot though
dense bramble
Dont nerf plasma
dense bramble
Plasma is supposed to be the best
ornate hamlet
I definitely don't want them to nerf plasma
severe folio
wait until the melta gun update
plucky flax
Revolver has more swag and can kill crusher faster.
sonic whale
I dislike the plasma gun because it looks ahhh goofy and also doesn't feel as fun personally as the lasguns or bolter
ornate hamlet
But like Jake said, I think the right-click should get more relevance
Every plasma user pretty much left-clicks
bold maple
they need to triple revolver ammo count lmao, the point of revolver is that it's light to carry and convenient sidearm
how tf plasma and bolter gets more ammo
clunkiest weapon in the game
restive slate
I always right click my plasma lol
dense bramble
Plasma should smash everything low charge though
sonic whale
Also that's a question, are the Hellbore rifles worse off or better off this patch? They seem fun
lunar hollow
what they need to do is fix the charge rate bug and make the left click have minimal to no cleave (a more aoe-splash focused thing would be nice)
dense bramble
Helbore are still good bro
severe folio
serviceable
ornate hamlet
Helbores are dead to me because of that swap speed
lunar hollow
and the right click has better efficiency vs say carapace and unyielding
restive slate
Theyre ok. Not bad, not best
lunar hollow
and more cleave
plucky flax
Mk2 helbore is still really strong.
potent echo
what they need to do is fix the charge rate bug and make the left click have min...
Moonfire bow 2.0 
sonic whale
Helbores are dead to me because of that swap speed
Then why not simply bayonet?
restive slate
Josho in psyker chat??
ornate hamlet
Slow and clunky
lunar hollow
and u would have at least a reasonable starting point to make a gun where ur incentivized to use the whole fuckin moveset
ornate hamlet
At least it's good in a pinch, which is what they were going for I suppose
lunar hollow
however getting fatshark to make weapons that arent braindead easy to use is kinda hard
plucky flax
Mk2 is faster than mg12 at shooting and killing.
potent echo
and u would have at least a reasonable starting point to make a gun where ur inc...
Speaking about that, ever use uncharged shots on helbores
ornate hamlet
I quite enjoy the bayonet changes
lunar hollow
At least it's good in a pinch, which is what they were going for I suppose
get a BM weapon
sonic whale
Mk2 helbore is still really strong.
That's the one I've been using, less Zoom then Mk1 and mk3 and fast charge time as well as decent bayonet if you weakspot/headshot
lunar hollow
and it applies to the bayonet
ornate hamlet
lunar hollow
Speaking about that, ever use uncharged shots on helbores <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
sometimes
ornate hamlet
Does this mean that like
lunar hollow
just for the sake of it
ornate hamlet
The bayonet inherits the blessings from my sheathed melee weapon?
potent echo
But almost never right, it just exists as a failure mechanic right now
sonic whale
The perks it inherits iirc
ornate hamlet
This game is stupid
restive slate
Mk 3 helbore slash shouldn't have the weird delay
plucky flax
That's the one I've been using, less Zoom then Mk1 and mk3 and fast charge time ...
It's my favourite by far. 1 is just worse than 2, and 3 is too slow for my liking.
lunar hollow
it works on helbore bayonet and ogryn grenade gauntlet
which are the 2 most relevant use cases iirc
sonic whale
Mk 3 helbore slash shouldn't have the weird delay
AGREED this is why I dislike it
ornate hamlet
No uncanny strike?
restive slate
The bayonet inherits the blessings from my sheathed melee weapon?
Melee weapons used to inherit blessings of shotgun
dense bramble
Bayonets should be better though.
lunar hollow
we're almost a year in
severe folio
Melee weapons used to inherit blessings of shotgun
HUH
lunar hollow
and fatshark still hasnt fixed half the fucking blessings applying globally
at least they got manstopper
dense bramble
Why give us bayonets if its better to just switch to melee in any situation
restive slate
For the memes
severe folio
hellbore bayonet hit harder than most weapon bash
ornate hamlet
To be fair
dense bramble
hellbore bayonet hit harder than most weapon bash
Mk3 doesnt 1shot trash mobs dude
ornate hamlet
The bayonet kinda works because you don't want to have to swap back
It's not switching to melee that's the problem
It's switching back to the fucking gun
severe folio
Mk3 doesnt 1shot trash mobs dude
maybe you should charge longer
restive slate
Its almost as if bayonets, flashlights etc were originally meant to be optional addons
sonic whale
Also not going to lie, ever since I grabbed the Hellbore and got the Krieg outfit I've wanted a scope on it simply for the fact of pretending to be that poor Krieg Marksmen from this trailer
https://youtu.be/XA3RmSKVnOw
dense bramble
maybe you should charge longer
Bayonet
lunar hollow
It's switching back to the fucking gun
the solution is to get really good at dodge dancing
lunar hollow
preferably by playing hundreds of hours of bolter vet
ornate hamlet
playing bolter
lunar hollow
and being forced to learn to reload while 4 bruisers try to crush ur skull in
or die horribly
restive slate
Imagine if running makes bayonet damage higher
ornate hamlet
vrosky I gitted very gud at dodging
dense bramble
playing bolter makes me want anything else tbh
ornate hamlet
Remember, I main psyker
dense bramble
Its too general
lunar hollow
i love the bolter
ornate hamlet
Hell, I mained gun psyker
severe folio
i love being crushed by 4 crushers
ornate hamlet
Brain burst was my way to deal with crushers
pearl lion
i love being crushed by 4 crushers
detyh by nsu
ornate hamlet
I got perfect at doing the BB tango
severe folio
guranteed pregnancy
orchid shadow
Death by metal snu-snu
dense bramble
it's very satisfying to pop like 8 gunners in the head
Or I just do that like clint eastwood with a plasma gun
restive slate
i love being crushed by 4 crushers
Crusher said Its Crushing Time and Crushed all over the place
dense bramble
Is plasma
severe folio
is ds
ornate hamlet
Though right now I just pray my wifi doesn't get packet loss when I'm about to dodge a crusher or a mauler
restive slate
and u run away nefariously
Courageously*
severe folio
thats kinda malicious
lunar hollow
nefariously
restive slate
thats kinda malicious
Malice gaming
lunar hollow
u gotta do an evil cackle too
glossy ember
guranteed pregnancy
yes inquisitor this post right here
dense bramble
Twirl the moustache
severe folio
wait
sonic whale
>kill team
What about it? I'm just on about the trailer footage
ornate hamlet
This is the kind of shit holding me back right now https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1Bhpf3F-BKaueA/d1337lpOiZiu?invite=cr-MSx0QUksMTkwNTkwNTA4LA
glossy ember
This is the kind of shit holding me back right now https://medal.tv/games/warham...
crying
wtf
severe folio
interesting
glossy ember
sonic whale
But yeah I'd love to have the scope on the Hellbore as cringe as it may be I would want it just because it's cool
ornate hamlet
What about it? I'm just on about the trailer footage
||josh kills the team||
ornate hamlet
crying
Man, that day I was
I was fucking livid
I mashed alt F4 so hard I brought up like 3 different mod menus from the nearby function keys
severe folio
that shit ballin
sonic whale
||josh kills the team||
🤷♂️
severe folio
i love playing on 10000 ping too
using dsword and spam light attack only to see doing the jazz hands
sonic whale
Also sad fact 😭 I only realised last week that the guys from this tralier die in the intro to Darktide showing the Chaos Spawn
https://youtu.be/Zp44GNRzvCc
ornate hamlet
It's not even the ping
I just am far enough from the repeater that the packet loss is massive
But it also shits the bed at night because of whatever the fuck the ISP does
It's generally fine during the day
It has been curiously fine tonight, at least
But it's like
severe folio
our life surrounded by corporate greed
ornate hamlet
Think just playing normally, then all of a sudden none of your hits register and the game treats you as if you were just standing still not blocking jack shit
And then your blood freezes wondering if everyone else is seeing you just walking to a horde and standing still
Playing like a fucking neanderthal
bold maple
my char just lag out and slide across the floor
severe folio
i mean
bold maple
then 3 seconds later error code 2014
eternal escarp
so still better than the average quickplay game then?
severe folio
that i wouldnt really care
bold maple
at least once every run and I need to reconnect without fail
severe folio
but not being able to kill more is more of my concern
they cant keep getting away with this 😔
ornate hamlet
but uh
when I played on cable I still had shit like this https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1jQueTFl2EVEnG/d1337Tqwj7LQ?invite=cr-MSxrenIsMTkwNTkwNTA4LA
so it wasn't all roses and axe body spray
glossy ember
I mashed alt F4 so hard I brought up like 3 different mod menus from the nearby ...
tragic
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
Those two on cable were when I had ping consistently in the 50s
orchid shadow
Clearly you shot them so hard, they didn't even know they were dead yet.
ornate hamlet
I fired a blank, inshallah ✊ 😔
lunar hollow
severe folio
should shot them a bullet that make them though theyre dead
ornate hamlet
https://streamable.com/55cujj
wouldn't happen if you used a man's weapon
severe folio
https://streamable.com/55cujj
that fukin orgyn
ornate hamlet
nice of the game to think about whether you killed that last one or not
benefit of the doubt and all that
lunar hollow
it had to consider
ornate hamlet
the server hamster was taking a coffee break
severe folio
i feel immense hate for orgyns
i can see why most of the imperium hate them now
because they keep bodyblocking shots
lunar hollow
severe folio
fukin idiot slab of meat
orchid verge
trauma staff knocking mobs down/everywhere frustrates me
any solutions?
obv if they'd be dead it'd be fine
severe folio
lean the equator away
or manipulate where they will fall into
if you hit them in the middle theyll go everywhere
but if you hit them from the side
theyll go to the other
maybe sometime, towards you
dapper flax
aw fuck yeah
orchid verge
like even if the the 1st Trauma hit does more damage
severe folio
aw fuck yeah
blunt
orchid verge
elite stacks take longer to kill when you Trauma nuke them
because they just fall down every direction
as opposed to say... Illisi cleave
fluid knot
fukin idiot slab of meat
Yes.
Can't 'elp that me Bone'ead implant is faulty
Just how it is
wheat storm
aw fuck yeah
4% dammage 💀
fluid knot
In actuality is like 10 damage less on lights than a high 70% roll
Not sure on the difference for heavies offhand tho
wheat storm
This is just basically a fucking club
It is so blunt that it doesn't even do slashing dammage 💀
dapper flax
4% dammage 💀
honestly it's able to brain rupture enemies pretty easily since I gotta smack em like 20 times to kill anything beyond a basic dude
wheat storm
dapper flax
wheat storm
Why so much hits btw
dapper flax
well not really twenty I was exaggerating a lil
wheat storm
And also this sword is only meant to kill bosses and hammer tanky ogryns
So it does it's work kinda bad if dmg is so low
split oxide
WarpRupture(100-200) vs CreepingFlames(5-6stacks)(from VentingShreik)
- which does more damage at max WarpCharges?
severe folio
creeping flame
split oxide
Does creeping-flame do what it says: "spread/contagious"?
dense bramble
I only ever play the whole soulblaze build
obtuse moth
wildfire is terrible btw
dense bramble
Is it?
obtuse moth
just search in the discord for the list of all the conditions and ways its weird or bad. its constantly repeated
frigid sparrow
What perk pairs best with ranged critical chance on purge?
Flak, Maniac, or Unyielding
split oxide
wildfire is terrible btw
what?
(sorry, I've been away for almost a year - so this is a steep learning curve on the new tree)
- i use purg, so wildfire was what I was looking for
summer prairie
flak
glossy ember
@severe folio
Tested out breakpoints on my 25% flak/carapace surge staff
6 warp charges, 5 perfect timing stacks (already did 0 perfect timing stacks last time):
4: Reaper (1 crit), Crusher, Bulwark, Mutant
3: Reaper (2crits), Mutant (2 crits), Bulwark (1 crit inconsistant), Maniac Rager, Mauler, Crusher (1 crit)
2: Mauler (1 crit), Maniac Rager (1 crit), Dog, Flak Rager, Flamethrowers, Yellow Gunner
1: Dog(1 crit), Shotgunners, Black Gunner, Trapper, Yellow Gunner (1crit), Yellow gunner (inconsistant for some reason? Sometimes left with 7 or so hp), sniper, bomber, flamethrowers (1 crit)
I don't think going 25% maniacs would let me one shot a maniac rager, but it might lower the amount of crits needed on mutie for 3 shots by 1. But it might let you instant kill the flamers though!
Unyielding it'd probably lower the needed crits by one for reaper/bulwark.
I unfortunately have 0 plasteel to switch my perks to unyielding/maniacs to test out so that'll have to wait a bit lol
summer prairie
rmb damage is variable
glossy ember
yeah, could really feel it on the yellow gunner
sometimes no crit rmb would one shot, sometimes not
other enemies it was fairly consistant
also I feel no flak would make it harder to kill maulers for sure, probably needing one more hit or one more crit
obtuse moth
what?
(sorry, I've been away for almost a year - so this is a steep learning cur...
@dense bramble theres more than this, but #psyker-class message
split oxide
wildfire is terrible btw
is it still wildfire? (I can't seem to find it)
obtuse moth
it is or still behaves the same anyway regardless of name
the soulblaze trait from venting shriek is good, and the one on kill
those dont cap
zinc tartan
I've been running this with my Surge/Smite build but I am not really feeling it. Anyone have any suggestions for blessing/perks to make this thing pop?
obtuse moth
slaughterer, and your choice, unstable power or the ranged deflection are both popular
ornate hamlet
Uncanny strike and slaughterer
obtuse moth
bloodthirsty is another good option
obtuse moth
ye, prioritise maniacs for those mutants if you're doing maelstroms or hishocks
zinc tartan
I've been doing alright with my surge staff for maniacs
split oxide
<@459327541988163595> theres more than this, but https://discord.com/channels/72...
Wont Purg do the same thing?
(or do I have to insitigate it with VentShirekCreepingFlame - then finish with Purg)
zinc tartan
mostly just need horde clear
ornate hamlet
Could keep exorcist and use slaughterer
And set crit damage to flak
That way you have some more leeway on spamming h1 special
zinc tartan
That way you have some more leeway on spamming h1 special
Hmm, I kinda like that idea.
zinc tartan
Yeah, I've honostly been doing well just switching between my surge staff and smite
I just need something when I have to do the horde killin
glossy ember
ok dumb question, which weapon should I be sprinting with here
one has +2 stam over the other but has -0.2 sprint speed
and does illisi have any movement tech
glossy ember
<@220014557903454210>
Tested out breakpoints on my 25% flak/carapace surge staff...
@near wyvern in case this interests you.
plucky flax
Nooo lost melee maelstrom on vet with plasma.
Maybe me on blaze trauma would have clutched it. 
wheat storm
How tf do I get blessinga
dense bramble
How tf do I get blessinga
Go to the shop and turn 180
bleak tulip
and does illisi have any movement tech
IT USED TO
STOLEN
but yeah generally you wanna run with the melee I cant think of a time when the ranged weapon makes you run faster
obtuse moth
Wont Purg do the same thing?
(or do I have to insitigate it with VentShirekCreep...
you want to start with purg and finish with vent etc
blazing spirit wildfire and purg will all cap then talents can add on top of those stacks
glossy ember
but yeah generally you wanna run with the melee I cant think of a time when the ...
even with -2 stamina? 
obtuse moth
if you have the debuff mod its useful to tell how many stacks they have
bleak tulip
eh you run almost the same speed when stammed out,
glossy ember
oh
bleak tulip
also you can slide spam if you really want to
bleak tulip
its still faster than just normal walking
glossy ember
i see
obtuse moth
but yeah generally you wanna run with the melee I cant think of a time when the ...
run with the lighter weapon iirc
bleak tulip
I havent tried but I wouldnt be surprised if you still run faster with a thammer than a revolver
obtuse moth
if you have a heavy melee but like a pistol or running with blitz it might be faster
spice veldt
for psyker, 0 stamina means that you run with 50% of your sprint speed bonus
bleak tulip
idk I'm not that much of a speed chad, I just always use melee to run
it always felt faster
obtuse moth
alternating between sprint sliding and dodging can keep you going for a reallylong time
bleak tulip
yeah I tend to just slide because it conserves stam
whole oxide
i'm fairly sure you move faster with a laspistol out than with force-sword, although not actually tested it, maybe just in my head
obtuse moth
i tend to run with ranged weapons out on non psyker classes
spice veldt
for reference, all classes should have a walking speed of 4; Psyker has a sprint speed of 5, and the +sprint speed given by weapons stacks on top of that
So, with +0.40 sprint speed, you'd run at 4 + 1 + 0.4 = 5.40 m/s instead, and being at 0% stamina means that you'd sprint at 4 + (1 + 0.4)/2 = 4.70 m/s instead (I'm pretty sure; I've forgotten the specifics) Just checked and everything here should be correct
obtuse moth
because blocking , pushing or slashing is instant, but you have to actually chamber your weapon when switching to a gun
obtuse moth
for psyker, 0 stamina means that you run with 50% of your sprint speed bonus
do you know the numbers for the other classes?
spice veldt
hopefully the numbers from royale's guide are still the same
i've just logged off, but you can check with the movementanalyzer mod https://github.com/danreeves/darktide-mods/tree/main/MovementAnalyzer
the author is danreeves, aka raindish aka the creator of numericUI
wheat storm
for reference, all classes should have a walking speed of 4; Psyker has a sprint...
The fuck
Bro it's just a fucking grindy ahh game
WHY WOULD YOU COUNT THIS
💀💀💀💀
Why would someone calculate running speed in game bruh
It doesn't matter at all
spice veldt
cuz why not
I have it remembered since I have the movementanalyzer mod to the top right of my screen at all times since I don't bother to turn it off, and I've looked at royale's guide previously
lunar hollow
I have it remembered since I have the movementanalyzer mod to the top right of m...
how can u not bother turning it off
spice veldt
and because people really like to overestimate the effects of +sprint speed
spice veldt
how can u not bother turning it off
i have a modded version so I have every line except the move speed deleted
spice veldt
so it's just a small number off to the edge of my screen that I forget even exists
lunar hollow
what fucking with the UI constantly does to a man
bleak tulip
didnt you have a speed indicator under your crosshair for a while or am I misremembering something
or what was that
lunar hollow
are u talking about that deranged loading bar he made for his dodge count resetting
bleak tulip
the one with the arrows
spice veldt
it is highly normal
bleak tulip
uh huh
spice veldt
ye that's my dodge counter
bleak tulip
magic hull
if your mods arent covering your screen in gameplay, you arent really modding
spice veldt
i'll shoot your kneecaps
bleak tulip
well, different strokes
lunar hollow
i have been searching for my next plasteel venture
it is time to roll for a dc7 and columnus brauto on zealot
potent echo
After playing with all 3 autos, columnus is still my fav
Agri magazine is too small for my shitty aim
spice veldt
it's fairly minimal now that i've moved my toughness/hp bars down to normal (since hudtweaker has a bug for the moment)
potent echo
I don't like the middle health bars, I can't aim with trauma like that
lunar hollow
if i have my ui in the middle of my screen i am losing valuable burster-analyzing screen space
i must carefully calculate the optimal way to detonate them
spice veldt
trauma grindset
spice veldt
https://streamable.com/sy3y0g
don't kill your team with poxbursters """""IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE"""""
potent echo
it's fairly minimal now that i've moved my toughness/hp bars down to normal (sin...
Also what are those bars what's going on
bleak tulip
lunar hollow
don't kill your team with poxbursters """""IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE"""""
by the time i realized there was a ticking noise
the krak was already on the plogryn
sometimes
i am very stupid
spice veldt
Also what are those bars what's going on
my stamina bars? I just have the outer line thingy removed
potent echo
The speed arrows?
spice veldt
the angle brackets above is my dodge counter
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> jarvis
no idea
i assume that they'll stick to enemies like they usually do
just that they won't magnetize onto them like they do with carapace
potent echo
I never had krak vacuum onto a dh
lunar hollow
i accidentally aggro'd a dh on the last gunner out of like 6 that i had shot that was standing next to them
and i dropped all my kraks on the floor
and they did like no damage
so im assuming ur supposed to stick em to the dh
potent echo
It's so hard to throw kraks on DH
potent echo
They won't bounce off poxwalkers?
bleak tulip
I thought they stick on all bosses and thats it
spice veldt
i have no idea but it'd be weird if it was just unyielding and carapace
bleak tulip
dunno if theym agnetize to reapers since they have armor
spice veldt
do a 3-point shot onto a random gunner
reapers have a little bit of carapace somewhere that I forgot
bleak tulip
on the shoulder yeah
lunar hollow
i thought kraks wouldnt pen bulwark shields
so i went into psykh
and tried throwing one over the head so it would loop around and stick to the carapace shoulder
and felt real smart
glossy ember
for reference, all classes should have a walking speed of 4; Psyker has a sprint...
useful info thanks bro
severe folio
<@220014557903454210>
Tested out breakpoints on my 25% flak/carapace surge staff...
very nice research
lunar hollow
and then in a real game i threw one at the shield
and it died anyways
and i was MAD
lyric burrow
You didnt test the shield first
glossy ember
very nice research
btw yellow gunner is flak so taking that off would make the 1 crit potentially inconsistant
severe folio
haha you idiot
lunar hollow
my attempts at skill expression have yet again been crushed by a fish
severe folio
its a mangetic grenade
glossy ember
but this will have to wait 10 or so hours before i can test with unyielding/maniacs
bleak tulip
this is why you just play before testing 
severe folio
of course it woukd stick to the shield
severe folio
btw yellow gunner is flak so taking that off would make the 1 crit potentially i...
scrier it to make it consistent
glossy ember
I mean yes but i don't see anyone using scrier with surge staff besides me
so i didnt take that into account
scrier makes 1 shots on gunners super consistant
strong pilot
DAE feel Disrupt Destiny is kinda okay to build up if you run assail and a laspistol
or is it just me
potent echo
It's okay to build up, just that you will lose it here and there in between events
Sometimes even during lulls in events when they spawn nothing but poxwalkers and specials, DD can't work on those
DD also doesn't proc on ogryns(?)
bleak tulip
I ran both DD and WS a bunch and I dont really feel much of a power difference besides being able to vent more with WS
and yeah it cant
glossy ember
scrier surge
glossy ember
nah i'm not gonna tell people to play it when you gotta constantly blitz cancel that shit
potent echo
nah i'm not gonna tell people to play it when you gotta constantly blitz cancel ...
How many casts can you get off with that
strong pilot
I think for gunkers running assail, EP is point efficient, WS is just generally good
potent echo
And isit worth constantly quelling instead of just firing 2 surges
strong pilot
for the bonus provided by DD is not worth the opportunity cost
potent echo
Even the 15% damage is great too, you don't lose it if you press F
severe folio
if only dd work like blazing fury
glossy ember
How many casts can you get off with that
depends on how much panic there is
like 5 then 1 less every cycle of max peril
but in real gameplay it's usually 4 then 1 or 2 less because I have 4 ragers on my ass
or I gotta switch to melee bc of horde
still, that got me to a 440k damage game so far so, pretty good build i say
severe folio
help my cat is licking my foot
potent echo
Is it really worth losing out on creeping flames
harsh urchin
help my cat is licking my foot
kick
severe folio
no
lunar hollow
please hadron stop bricking my dc7s
bleak tulip
no
glossy ember
Is it really worth losing out on creeping flames <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290616...
Maybe? I played with a surge EP creeping flames guy last time, he had 420k total damage i had 320k or so
bleak tulip
FS has decided you have too many tubes
glossy ember
his flames was like 120k of his dmg
potent echo
Surge EP 420k doesn't sound right lmao
potent echo
Assuming hishock
bleak tulip
120k soublaze sounds about right yeah
severe folio
fuck it good enough
looks horrible
glossy ember
i gotta log on to see more stats
lunar hollow
down 7k plasteel 😔
severe folio
youll never be gucchi with that dclaw 😔
glossy ember
but tl;dr i doubt scrier surge staff is better than creeping flames purely because of consistancy
strong pilot
surge + scrier, what kind of peril discipline do you have
severe folio
down 7k plasteel 😔
DOWN TO
potent echo
No rampage4 L
severe folio
WH
glossy ember
surge + scrier, what kind of peril discipline do you have
carpal tunnel syndrome
severe folio
GO BACK TO THE BRUNT
severe folio
THATS MORE THAN ENOUGH
bleak tulip
are you
severe folio
TO GET ONE MORE
lunar hollow
i am going to keep it until i find another weapon im not gonna use but want to obtain
bleak tulip
I blew like 5k on ogryn shit yesterday
strong pilot
bruh I have so little trigger discipline I still occasionally blow up on gunker xD
severe folio
how are you blowing up
lunar hollow
I blew like 5k on ogryn shit yesterday <:Kekw:929575628682965043>
i have every ogryn weapon except the non-gorg stubbers
severe folio
as a gunker
bleak tulip
I made a shield and i dont know why
severe folio
you trigger happy assail ?
bleak tulip
I dont wanna play shield
strong pilot
hol down the m1 too long while assail
lunar hollow
shield is at least ok now
bleak tulip
I already have a knife
severe folio
ah
bleak tulip
and I only really play gunlugger#
severe folio
dont assail then
strong pilot
auto BB is boring
severe folio
dont bb either
strong pilot
alright, guess i run a 5point gunker talent build
severe folio
perfect
bleak tulip
I still hope one day I will be like "yeah I have all the weapons I care to have I can bank plasteel now" and then I see josho cry about his tube status
and I guess itll be tubes forever
glossy ember
bruh I have so little trigger discipline I still occasionally blow up on gunker ...
i promise it's REALLY fun though
bleak tulip
all the way down
glossy ember
Surge EP 420k doesn't sound right lmao
was uh, power outage, so less enemies than usual
i think
potent echo
Understandable
strong pilot
i promise it's REALLY fun though
buddy, psyker is my least played but when i grow up i hope i can be a psyker like you
bleak tulip
i promise it's REALLY fun though
I dont know why but having a single number dodge count is psychotic to me
bleak tulip
its like burned into my retinas to have more there
glossy ember
don't be a psyker like me you'll ruin your wrist
bleak tulip
its not actually bad it just looks weird to me
glossy ember
having more than one dodge number is weird to me
strong pilot
i promise it's REALLY fun though
da fuq is that animation cancel on the surge
glossy ember
blitz cancel
strong pilot
i need to write down notes
glossy ember
sometimes it glitches out tho
u see me charging smite for no reason there cuz the input was eaten
spice veldt
it's fine if it's counting down since you'll know that 0 is when you've used up all of your efficient dodges
harder to locate if it's not near your crosshair
bleak tulip
people who have dodges count up are weird
strong pilot
level 69 psyker, nicee
bleak tulip
i'm agreeing because josho has his dodges count up
you agree because you like me admit it
strong pilot
i am a dodgecount enjoyer
bleak tulip
glossy ember
people who have dodges count up are weird
idk man when in a panic it helps
and i panic a lot
bleak tulip
does it?
glossy ember
yeah
bleak tulip
I mean the color is more the thing that gives me the info
spice veldt
you agree because you like me admit it
there is no one but josho in my heart
dense bramble
Helps me see when it reset
glossy ember
when i'm at -6 dodge i'm like "uhhh maybe im fucking up"
bleak tulip
I dont really look at the number
lunar hollow
i'm agreeing because josho has his dodges count up
fuck u
glossy ember
or whatever it is you are trying to single target
I single target elites yea
also blitz cancelling gets you to the crit faster
since only the last hit crits
so more ranged immune uptime
and it generates like, just a tiny bit less peril
issue is it doesn't open up bulwarks and doesn't cc as long
potent echo
Is there a reason to blitz cancel and not melee cancel?
glossy ember
slightly faster from what i noticed, and also easier on my fingers
muscle memory also similar when I h1 blitz cancel
mainly habit really
summer prairie
well melee cancel doesn't even work with surge
glossy ember
at 0:22 you can't even see the lightning
but it still went off lol
had it been a crit woulda killed 
summer prairie
it does let you cancel at a certain point of the animation but it's way later
bleak tulip
still wish we had more keybind options without mods
glossy ember
deranged keybinds
french keyboard it's actually 1234 (blitz is 4)
bleak tulip
oh god I knew azerty was fuckin weird but I didnt know you had to press shift to get numbers
good gods
bleak tulip
hur hur
glossy ember
bleak tulip
you got the hair and everything
glossy ember
yeah, even the lil beanie around her
and blue themed
but i was annoyed early on cuz we couldn't see steam names so i couldnt pick my friends
there's no way to rename a char is there
potent echo
Don't think so
glossy ember
bleak tulip
maybe one day
glossy ember
next week for sure
near wyvern
just wish I had named her Wattson
Ms. Wattson and her Li-Th-Ni-N Rod
Could make better jokes about edging with that rod if they were a he instead
glossy ember
near wyvern
Throwing out white sparks and squeezing till it turns blue
near wyvern
I am
Never run it on 0 decimals if you plan to use it
Always 1 or 2 until they allow you to change the rounding function
bleak tulip
I run the bar mod that also has decimals, its neato
near wyvern
<:hmmgryn:1022192304154484767> can you say that again but like i'm 5
If you have 0 decimals, it will only show nice whole numbers like 11 or 34 instead of 11.3 or 33.7.
However, the rounding it uses is the default rounding, so 0.5-0.9 goes up and 0.1-0.4 goes down.
This is very dangerous with safe cast thresholds. If you are safe to cast at 97% and true peril shows 97%, in reality you can be anywhere from 96.5% to 97.49% so you have no way of knowing if you are going to blow up or not.
bleak tulip
couldnt find the old true peril anymore but this one has it too so w/e
glossy ember
bleak tulip
is anything even still 97, thought basically everything is 99 now
maybe bb?
havent used it much since 13
near wyvern
The default UI always rounds up so it's always safe. 96.1 will be shown as 97 which is still safe, only after you get 97.1 the default UI will show 98 which is in line with "unsafe to cast"
bleak tulip
I mean it used to be 97
bleak tulip
void is 99, assail us 99 and those re the things I use
think smite is also 99? no idea tho
also it just auto quells anyway
near wyvern
If you use creeping flames the peril needed to get 6 stacks is 84 for True Peril (1 or 2 decimals) and 85 for default UI
near wyvern
Well the actual threshold is 83.33
bleak tulip
lmao
near wyvern
But 84 is easier for brain to read
potent echo
Math checks out
near wyvern
Don't have time to start reading decimal points in the heat of the battle
bleak tulip
I mean yeah its just still kinda comical
I didnt think FS would actually divide it properly
then again that explains all the rounding fuckery
potent echo
How else would they do it
bleak tulip
idk I assumed they just put it to round numbers like 85 because its easier to remember or something
inland sand
since patch 14 dropped I've been playing the goofiest Psyker load outs
bleak tulip
I dont really gigachad edge it to the exact things anyway so it didnt really matter to me much ever
inland sand
it feels like whatever u do on PSyker u end up insanely strong lol
bleak tulip
nah
obtuse moth
slight sidebar, can anyone else blow up with smite? because its definitely not impossible in my experience
still hearth
It's possible
bleak tulip
its still better to have the real numbers
potent echo
so should i avoid true peril mod then
If you want to edge exactly, it's nice
still hearth
If you release after 99
glossy ember
hm
obtuse moth
i like not having the game lie to me (true peril)
bleak tulip
you can blow up with smite left click
potent echo
Like edge at 80%~ after 2 quell ticks for max nexus uptime
obtuse moth
i think ive blown up with right click held down
still hearth
Even right click blows up if you trigger it at 100% I think
potent echo
Sometimes you hold too long and you get 3 quell ticks, bringing shame to your family
bleak tulip
held down? that doesnt seem right but I am not a smite user usually
potent echo
i think ive blown up with right click held down
Only if you charge to 100% before firing
still hearth
It doesn't blow up if you release it in a safe zone afaik
bleak tulip
yeah if you click at 100 it will but not when you hold it?
still hearth
Haven't tested it much though
summer prairie
if you hold rmb and then left click at 100
which is semi-hard to do unintentionally because peril goes up very slowly after you reach max charge
still hearth
The only time I did it was
Canceling the auto quell
And being like "wow you can do that??"
summer prairie
with Solidity it quells for 2 ticks
potent echo
What
summer prairie
without solidity it's 1 frame off from 2 ticks
potent echo
??
summer prairie
probably meant to quell for 2 ticks
well solidity speeds up quell tick time
and autoquell holds quell for speciifc # of frames
potent echo
That's so funky
summer prairie
without solidity you want to hold quell button instead of letting it stop after autoquelling if you really want to be efficient
potent echo
I always thought it was a special animation and quelling interaction
Not fatshark taking my keyboard away from me lmao
bleak tulip
another reason to always bring solidity
frank moat
Would
glossy ember
got it
potent echo
Time to roll it
glossy ember
this will have to wait when i can play
glossy ember
login
but like i cant take 30-40 mins to play
working from home rn but actually working lmao
potent echo
Unless
glossy ember
vestal fulcrum
Another possible Obscurus godroll for my collection
bleak tulip
this man's cornering the obs market
near wyvern
ehh obscurus is just inferior to Deimos and Illisi
bleak tulip
no godroll makes the moveset better
honest gorge
is this good?
near wyvern
is this good?
blast radious could be better
will surely work with flurry
both blessings need a swap tho
honest gorge
both blessings need a swap tho
what would i swap them to?
near wyvern
flurry & rending shockwave as an example
honest gorge
wb perks?