psyker-class

[potent echo]

Top melee and ranged damage

[severe folio]

and how much coherency

[bitter escarp]

yep

[potent echo]

Coherency doesn't matter imo, it's better to split up

[bitter escarp]

for some accountability

[potent echo]

Plasteel ain't collecting itself

[severe folio]

thats what your parents said

[bitter escarp]

sometimes you end up doing dumb shit that makes you sweat, but it doesn't mean you're playing well

tbf more parents should probably do that

instead of feeding the therapy industrial complex

[severe folio]

if thats your parent’s only alternative i can see why

[bitter escarp]

other times you feeling underemployed as hell but you're doing loads

[potent echo]

I assume this line isnt about parents

[bitter escarp]

wanna commit to the snark and elaborate on that chief?

[severe folio]

no

[bitter escarp]

yeah lol it was continuing the original thread on scoreboards

[potent echo]

If you play backline support you don't get yellows on the board

But someone's gotta do it

[bitter escarp]

clearly raised wrong kek

[severe folio]

just need to kill more than 300 lesser enemies and 100 plasteel

[bitter escarp]

yeah but defining support is hard work, goalposts and visions very different

[potent echo]

You killing that one burster before it backstabbed the entire team probably saved the entire game

[feral knoll]

Still not level 30. But is this the right idea for a Gun Psyker maybe?

[bitter escarp]

support is something you do in addition to the baseline of killing shit

some people really want to be mordhau bards

[severe folio]

crit aura better

[potent echo]

Earlier someone was complaining that his team wasn't protecting him while he was smiting

True bard player

[severe folio]

did they wipe

[potent echo]

I assume that's why he complained yea

[severe folio]

maybe his team should have

[bitter escarp]

main characters gonna main character

[eternal escarp]

*conditionally better, generally 10% ult cd vs 5% cc is very dependent on team

[potent echo]

Or maybe he should just not tunnel vision while using an auto aim ability idk

[severe folio]

how do you tunnel vision with smite

[bitter escarp]

some people are just kerillian players who isekai'd into the 40k setting

[potent echo]

Just stare at the things shaking

Or maybe pinging desperately

[severe folio]

weird

suppose to spin around

to stun the things behind them too

[potent echo]

Yea the smite supposed to protect the team, not the other way round

[severe folio]

unless he smite the horde behind the team

then the team just left him for death

[potent echo]

He shouldn't, like if no one is there to kill, smite to do what exactly

[royal falcon]

be palpatine

[severe folio]

hoping someone would notice

[eternal escarp]

smite is not a dps tool and seeing psykers smite a single elite alone to death hurts

[potent echo]

Palpatine probably had a higher k/d ratio

[eternal escarp]

just smite till they're stunned and kill them xdd

[potent echo]

He got the nice assist on mace windu

[severe folio]

smiting a single elite unit may look like desperate method of them to stun while other kill

[potent echo]

[bitter escarp]

what

[severe folio]

but its proba worse when they smite monst

[royal falcon]

does smite even do anything on monstrosities

[severe folio]

thats when the real dullard stank

[potent echo]

Smite monster 10% more damage I'm helping guyssss

[royal falcon]

I mean there's enfeeble I guess but

[eternal escarp]

smite monst for 10% damage effect

[severe folio]

glow them up nicely in the dark

[bitter escarp]

lag others

[severe folio]

if smite still lagging you consider using nasa laptop

[potent echo]

Smite will lag anyone's PC lmao

[severe folio]

or upgrade from potato to lemon

[potent echo]

People with 4090s still complaining

[bitter escarp]

nah rig is plenty decent

[severe folio]

its no longer lagging for me

[bitter escarp]

lmao

[eternal escarp]

smite doesn't lag at all

for me

[severe folio]

before it lag from all the smokes coming out

now they remove all the fog

[potent echo]

It lags when 20 things gibs at once with you inside

[severe folio]

its as smooth as the day we lost smite surge

[eternal escarp]

had 3 smiters going at once no problems

in a horde

[bitter escarp]

different set of problems

3 smiters inna horde

why

[severe folio]

3 smiters in a horde is kinds weird

[eternal escarp]

true that lol

[bitter escarp]

just hit them ffs

[potent echo]

Hey with 3 smiters

Then can actually kill poxwalkers

Amazing value

[severe folio]

pacifist psykers

[bitter escarp]

people getting midwit as fuck about CC

"oooh I'm locking them down"

[eternal escarp]

hes doin it guys

[potent echo]

You were here when pre13 surge was a thing right

[bitter escarp]

you know what else locks them down? killing them

[eternal escarp]

theyre not comin anywhere near us

[severe folio]

is that because back in the day thats all psyker was preached about

[bitter escarp]

yeah fuck sake

[potent echo]

Surge best staff cc invaluable

[severe folio]

going to damnation with surge

to cc shit

[potent echo]

Surge staff necessary in damnation

[severe folio]

because psykers cant kill

[bitter escarp]

surge was great for deleting flak shooters

[potent echo]

That's it lol

[bitter escarp]

but unarmoured, lmao

[severe folio]

i mean back when it cant delete anything

[potent echo]

Lmao 30% modifier

[bitter escarp]

back then surge had a stupid flak modifier

[potent echo]

It had 150% flak

[severe folio]

back when its a glorified smite

really ?

[potent echo]

So actually kills scab shooters amazingly

Yea

[severe folio]

couldnt feel like its killing anything back then

[potent echo]

Unarmored is 30% though

If you hate lightning just strip

[severe folio]

thats sexual harassment

[bitter escarp]

touch ground

[severe folio]

touch synth grass

[eternal escarp]

release psykers with 300 damage brainburst 👁️ 👁️

[potent echo]

That charges super slow

[royal falcon]

brainburst but it heals the target

[severe folio]

cerebal laceration

[potent echo]

And also slows you down

[severe folio]

does bb no longer slow you down

[bitter escarp]

WC stacks that fall off all at onec

[eternal escarp]

while watching vet k12

[potent echo]

It was much worse iirc

[severe folio]

i cant really feel the difference

feel like bb is still the same

[eternal escarp]

bb feels waaaay better now

[bitter escarp]

BB as markerlight for boltgun

[potent echo]

Release psyker

Like 1 year ago

[bitter escarp]

beta psyker was overnerfed to produce release psyker

[severe folio]

cant remember much different

[bitter escarp]

BB was a bit cooked in beta

[severe folio]

so bb now is faster and more mobile ?

[eternal escarp]

i played release dt, maxxed 3 classes and then stopped playing, came back for class overhaul, bb is significantly better

yea

[severe folio]

damn

i cannot feel any different

[bitter escarp]

bit sticky on breakpoints now though

[potent echo]

The changes were made in jan

[bitter escarp]

compared to immediately pre 13

[potent echo]

Last time you couldn't even kill hounds with BB

You couldn't kill flamers either

[eternal escarp]

lmao i remember that

[potent echo]

Imagine

[severe folio]

interesting

[bitter escarp]

could immediately tell which difficulty people played by their opinions on BB

[eternal escarp]

the 2 k12 vets, 1 flamer zealot and a surge psyker meta

[bitter escarp]

Assail got nothing on that shit

[potent echo]

4 psyker meta

4 staves

[eternal escarp]

4 assails

[bitter escarp]

"stepsibling help"

[severe folio]

walking nuclear bomb

[potent echo]

Perfectly balanced

4 assails atoma is saved

[bitter escarp]

all 4 pop from perils simultaneously

[potent echo]

Unlucky

[severe folio]

but how do those 4 assail distribute

[potent echo]

Gg go next

[severe folio]

do they assail one after another

[eternal escarp]

4 shields all WC cooldown reduction just walk forward placing bubbles lnao

[potent echo]

Just all at once all the time

[severe folio]

or do they all assail at rhe same time

[shut shoal]

so your saying going down twice, not dying through an entire level means you shouldn't be playing that difficulty? So a good 80% of people i qp with shouldn't be playing then.

[bitter escarp]

you think assail crutchers can wait their turn for the spotlight?

[potent echo]

They all bring handcannon revovlers

70% rending ez

[severe folio]

youre not wrong on that second opinion either to be honest

80% of people in damnation should eat dirt instead of playing damnation

[bitter escarp]

eh people are allowed to be shit

[eternal escarp]

load into damnation
see level 3

[severe folio]

No

[potent echo]

It's fine, game would be too easy otherwise

[bitter escarp]

at least if they're trying damnation they're pushing

[severe folio]

Never

die

[potent echo]

You need people to carry

[bitter escarp]

versus making HISTG heresy the most difficult mode

[severe folio]

bury them all

[foggy ferry]

Does Solidity (+30% quell speed) apply to natural cool-off when not gaining peril for a while, or just when you hold R?

[potent echo]

Only active quell (?)

[eternal escarp]

back when heresy was always HI and was harderv than damn

[severe folio]

need to consult the codex

[potent echo]

But they nerfed passive quell so hard

So it's hard to tell

[shut shoal]

ima be honest that my fav level, that and melee scabs only. Lots of enemies your way but they aren't too tanky which is very fun power trip with some challenge

[bitter escarp]

independent of that it's still the hardest mode

players good enough that they think they can gatekeep, but not good enough to actually carry their team

[eternal escarp]

really? still? why?

[potent echo]

You got 3 heretics on your team

Or 4

In most cases

[eternal escarp]

oh not like its actually harder lmao

[bitter escarp]

heresy issa big jump from malice

ya lol issa meme about the teammates

and many of them got a lot of bad habits to unlearn

[eternal escarp]

theres no me in team but thats because they're all dead and im alone

[potent echo]

I no longer see people cupping balls in damnation thankfully

[shut shoal]

i swear enemies swing faster in damnation than heresy, and thats the biggest problem i have swinging between the two

[severe folio]

swing faster ?

[potent echo]

They move faster and attack faster yea

[bitter escarp]

also density

[shut shoal]

feels like attacks come out faster that or they swinf earlier when getting in range

[severe folio]

interesting

[shut shoal]

throws me off

[bitter escarp]

less breathing room

[potent echo]

Not like even damnation pubs use space

[eternal escarp]

lmao true

[potent echo]

They rather die in a chokepoint to 3 specials then to retreat to an open space

[bitter escarp]

space is for getting yeeted off the map

not one step back!

[potent echo]

Burster sounds all just stand in the Blindspot

[tawny pebble]

noob asking for advice on perks

[potent echo]

Head in the sand ostriches, if you can't see it it's not real

[bitter escarp]

I need to make my alarm sound the poxburster sound

guaranteed wake

[severe folio]

poxbursters

[tawny pebble]

in a cold sweat maybe

[eternal escarp]

youre in auric maelstrom and you hear hunting grounds + mutant wave coming in but noooo you have to go press that event start button then run off to go get some plasteel

[bitter escarp]

after a snooze it escalates to trapper shooting noises

[severe folio]

accompanied by flamet and bomber tick

full course presented by the AI Director

[bitter escarp]

inb4 it's the silence that wakes you

[shut shoal]

gooods the ammount of players that hear boss/spawn sounds and charge head long into the next room

[bitter escarp]

because that's 5 crushers coming out the broom closet

[tawny pebble]

they fit so nicely in small spaces

[severe folio]

i feel more at ease with the 5 crushers than just 1 trapper

[tawny pebble]

very patient ogryn

[shut shoal]

true

[eternal escarp]

its like everyone is a slayer lol

[severe folio]

the moment that trapper put me in chain

[eternal escarp]

pull everything i can take it

[severe folio]

i know im already reach the lowest depth of despair

[tawny pebble]

this hurts me specifically

was in a pubs game with all zealots

[severe folio]

i dont even have to worry about what comes next

[shut shoal]

dont tell them ogryn bullrush is literally slayer bardin without a leap

[severe folio]

i just know it will come and i cant stop it

[tawny pebble]

all of them charged ahead lol

[potent echo]

They probably have like music in the background or smth, I refuse to believe they are actually conscious of the boss spawning

[shut shoal]

the best nets come from below the railing your on or through the 4 bullwarks infront of you while surrounded

[severe folio]

at least theyre just charging into a boss

[potent echo]

But then I also have a friend that walked into a daemonhost and started complaining that some idiot in the team did it

[eternal escarp]

do bosses do a roar like in vt or only the music tells?

[bitter escarp]

allergic to accountability

just drop a "whoops mb, skill issued the dh"

[severe folio]

its worse when everything is almost settled, and then the net shooting sound happen

[potent echo]

Both

[tawny pebble]

yeah, i've done it before

[eternal escarp]

cos i cant remember a boss roar

[potent echo]

Music might be delayed though

[tawny pebble]

usually by smite chaining it on accident

[shut shoal]

beast can sneak up on ya if you don't have music playing. Which is a scary ammount of players.

[eternal escarp]

yeah i always play with music on because ost is good

[severe folio]

either way fuk disablers

way too annoying when so many of them come out

immediately end a game

[bitter escarp]

I like disablers

[tawny pebble]

i love/hate them

[bitter escarp]

good skill check for a team

[potent echo]

Disablers are too much of a binary thing

[shut shoal]

please dont fuck the trapper, she doesnt want you like that. More of a butterfly in a box want.

[potent echo]

Drg has more soft disablers

[eternal escarp]

disablers are what makes the game interesting imo

[potent echo]

Unless cave leech then

[bitter escarp]

sometimes you're mad at a team for cruising on luck, first minor speedbump and shit derails

[undone carbon]

yeah i always have music on for this reason, hate that thing

[bitter escarp]

and people start playing a bit more seriously after

[severe folio]

yeah well if they start playing a bit more seriously

i dont see them anymore

[potent echo]

I'm thinking maybe the netter can just pull you forward and make you stuck for 10 seconds, that's probably enough in a horde for you to die

[severe folio]

all i get are those who dont

[bitter escarp]

what they move to a higher difficulty?

[potent echo]

But it won't make solo players instantly lose lmao

Or people who get netted before a drop

[bitter escarp]

yeah you get dragged through a gauntlet

[eternal escarp]

netters are similar to hookrats theyre not dangerous alone but within a horde they blend in and getya killed real quick

[potent echo]

At least for hounds you can grenade the hound

Or shout stagger

[bitter escarp]

they just all stick their elbows out

[potent echo]

Net is just

[bitter escarp]

and you clip all of them

[severe folio]

and not just the net

they said the AI director fix the whole too many flamers right ?

well theres still quite a lot of them

[potent echo]

They did

[severe folio]

theres so many fukin fire everywhere

[potent echo]

At least you aren't getting 4 at once

[shut shoal]

The ENTIRE point of disablers are to force teamwork. And coherency. And additional spawns when solo. And toughnes regen near allies. And medipacks being aoe slow heal. Yet somehow people dont get to stick as a team

[bitter escarp]

I like that they specifically code in the dogpiles

[severe folio]

i sure as hell am getting 2 of them and 2 bombers instead

[potent echo]

But forcing teamwork is so lame when coherency is so weak

[tawny pebble]

what, you don't like 3 flamers and 2 grenadiers making 80% of the floor into lava?

[potent echo]

And also they litter plasteel in all the alt routes

[bitter escarp]

flamers will go shit on people who're disabled already

[potent echo]

So do they want people to explore or not hello

[severe folio]

game dont have its priorities straight at all

[shut shoal]

the loot hunt mid mission is the single worst bit of design within missions to me.

[bitter escarp]

yes, but at a cost

[severe folio]

unless it’s priority is to just fuk with everyone in every hole with every possible method

[bitter escarp]

otherwise it's just a sightseeing tour of Tertium

40k walking sim with occasional jaunts to glasgow

[potent echo]

With sick music

Damn the airlock rushing one is still so good

[severe folio]

couple that with HOW MUCH PLASTEEL YOU FUKIN NEED

FUKKK

[potent echo]

Ascension riser I think

[shut shoal]

i didnt knwo tours involved being stabbed and shot 30+ times at every stop D:

[eternal escarp]

diamantine rich, plasteel starved

[severe folio]

try czech

[potent echo]

Game design is so whack

But the game is so fun why

[shut shoal]

ima be real, i just get base level 370 and 1 good perk per weapon and call it a day. Stockpile for if they ever fix crafting

[severe folio]

maybe because gamers have developed to just crave being abused, ever since darksouls cultures shape gamers

[eternal escarp]

never need diamantine cos you just delete blue weapons over and over lol

[bitter escarp]

dorf fortress

losing is fun

[eternal escarp]

aquifers

[bitter escarp]

probs release reds at the same time

[severe folio]

never release red

if they release red in burning their hq down

[bitter escarp]

cats

[eternal escarp]

pleeease release red

[severe folio]

im gonna fukin do it

[shut shoal]

theyll fix crafting eventually right?

[royal falcon]

dwarf fortress fans when they see water
https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[severe folio]

when it happen they gonna have a database breach and everyone lose their plasteel

[eternal escarp]

if red just makes stats 400, blessings/perks t4 then reds sre fine

[shut shoal]

thats how developers get a dead game.

[severe folio]

wouldn’t count simulating a pseudo imperium much different

[sonic whale]

https://tenor.com/view/20-twenty-minutes-rick-and-morty-gif-12928450

[severe folio]

i love 20 minutes adventures

if it’s actually 20 minute

[sonic whale]

So many mutants

[severe folio]

and not a 15 minute wipe

[sonic whale]

We did it

But dear god

SO MANY MUTANTS

https://tenor.com/view/why-crying-emotional-tears-sobbing-gif-17306861

[bitter escarp]

you hearing "rrrrargh" from weird places now huh

[sonic whale]

I'm fucking hearing it right now and want to dodge continuously

[eternal escarp]

be me, dorf mining
dig too deep
giant beast made of fire spitting webs appears

[sonic whale]

[severe folio]

i no longer dodge mutant

[shut shoal]

rock?

[severe folio]

i now stab them headon

if i miss so be it

[eternal escarp]

and stone?

[bitter escarp]

1 rock a minute

[shut shoal]

both?

[severe folio]

but i will not have the alternative

[sonic whale]

Sadly no, Soulblaze. It can kill them in their charge but not like 12 of them in a conga line

https://tenor.com/view/sully-walk-monsters-inc-gif-16339267

[severe folio]

the mutants

[shut shoal]

thats perfect for mutant wave rolling up meme.

[bitter escarp]

fortunes of war game mode when

mutant phalanx

[eternal escarp]

chaos waste gamemode when

[bitter escarp]

also that yeah

[sonic whale]

I want that Youtuber who does the Vermintide animations to do this but with the Mutant models on the Skylink bridge 😆

[bitter escarp]

wonder how stupid the perks are going to be there

[undone carbon]

what the hell happened in there

[bitter escarp]

bet they learned nothing from VT2

[sonic whale]

A Stream of mutants

[bitter escarp]

"lmao this gives infinite self-feeding crits that bounce"

[severe folio]

this happened

[undone carbon]

needs more "raaaaaaaagh raaaaaa" noises

[severe folio]

its there

cant you hear it

[shut shoal]

i like the theory that they intentionally rolled back qol features so they can get praise for it later.

[severe folio]

its just above and below you

[undone carbon]

bonus points if its in the walls, pinging between spawns

[bitter escarp]

I feel like that's just cope honestly

like how all these dudes are suddenly experts on Tencent's management practices

[sonic whale]

Speed it up

Oh god it'll be even closer and more funny

[bitter escarp]

lmao just get the xenophobia out in the open, the coding ain't fooling anyone

[eternal escarp]

but le chinese overlord bad grgrggr

[severe folio]

when has they ever move that fast

the fright of mutant is that they are not fast, youre just haunted by their screamming

they run, but they howl more than they hit

the howling is what agonizing

[bitter escarp]

mutant edging Isis here

[eternal escarp]

muties just break ya toughness and throw you

[bitter escarp]

sometimes mutants come in clutch too

take the mutant bus away from the horde

[severe folio]

i cant count how many time they have grab and throw me down the bridge into the middle of the pack

[bitter escarp]

and they always bowl the horde over too

[shut shoal]

no my true fear of mutants is when they ping-pong throw you for over half your health without hitting the ground (with your feet) cause your teamates are wearing horse blinders.

[severe folio]

wont happen if you have an mk4

[shut shoal]

if you didnt know, they can grab you midair

[bitter escarp]

on the upside you broke your fall with your incomparable mind

[shut shoal]

i just want psykers bb sound to be replaced with pancakes]

[severe folio]

i want bb to crush an enemy entirely

[eternal escarp]

what sounds do pancakes make

[severe folio]

squeeze them down like a dark elf amulet

[sonic whale]

I wish the long walk was for longer but it's burned in my mind like this

[proven hazel]

is blazing spirit or deflector better on a force sword?

both at rank 4

[shut shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwpHjmfh4Kw

[sonic whale]

Do you want to stop bullets and do you plan on blocking a lot?

[severe folio]

depend on what you try to go for

[eternal escarp]

bb would be cooler if it charged based the damage, like a crusher takes 5s and a hound takes 3 etc

[proven hazel]

i do enjoy blocking

plus the sword has 15% block efficiency as a perk

[severe folio]

that perk shoukd be gone

[sonic whale]

Blazing Spirt is REALLY good for that random crit but I recomend only doing it if you have the Two Soulblaze nodes in your talent tree

[shut shoal]

i struggle to play psyker without deflector sword after getting addicted to that sweet bullet blocking goodness

[bitter escarp]

biomancer psyker when

just wolverine your way through bullets

[severe folio]

want to PUNCH shit

[proven hazel]

which two nodes?

[shut shoal]

Ogryn

[severe folio]

creeping flame and perilous combusiton

[sonic whale]

If you don't have these two I wouldn't recomend the Soublaze one if you're trying to min-max, otherwise up to you

[severe folio]

fuk those

no dont use wildfire

[bitter escarp]

Ogryn psykers canon now

Ogryn with Hammerhand

[severe folio]

never use wildfire

[shut shoal]

ive pissed off probably a dozen deamonhosts with soulblaze until i stopped using it

[sonic whale]

Wildfire is great when you hit something with max stacks from the sword, and when it's an Elite that's even better as it spreads. It's good for horde clearing

[severe folio]

its very bad

[smoky fractal]

but what about my fantasy of playing pre patch psyker?

[severe folio]

no

[smoky fractal]

😦

[sonic whale]

I find it to be very good

[bitter escarp]

may be placebo

[eternal escarp]

wildfire seems decent?

[bitter escarp]

if it did what it says

[shut shoal]

@smoky fractal on that name sis, why do so many people rp a sister but then DONT use bolter/flamer and eviscerator? really confuses me

[severe folio]

wildfire is not strong by itself since:

• it vanishes of target dies with only 1 stack of soulblaze
• it can only apply a max of 4 soulblaze stacks on a target
• it wastes procs by refreshing a 4 stack blaze on a target
• 4 stacks is not enough to kill anything on its own

Wildfire is only good if you have a lot of blaze going on already to provide you a headstart for your blaze damage or if you spam creeping flames with enfeeble smite, since enfeeble smite will close the gap and allow the enemies to die with only 4 stacks of blaze.

[smoky fractal]

im a zealot main i do

[shut shoal]

thank you

[sonic whale]

Sure if you're using the staff and sword with blazing spirit it won't get the max number of stacks but any stack is better then no stack, it's also in a pretty easy spot to grab

[severe folio]

youre not applying 4 stacks on everyone around the target that die by wildfire

[smoky fractal]

whenever im doing my contracts i just switch channels to whatever class im playing

[severe folio]

youre applying up to 4 stacks on a random amount of enemies

[eternal escarp]

so wildfire purgatus is fine but thats basically it then

[severe folio]

that means 1 enemy can get 1, the other get 3

[shut shoal]

i too switch to current class, except zealot. that place is fuckin weird.

[severe folio]

or just 1 enemy get 4 stacks while others nothing

or 4 enemies get 1 stacks

[sonic whale]

Counter argument, get double crits in and you'll double the stacks on the local horde if in melee at least

[smoky fractal]

zealot used to be a sacred place until the new gen joined

[proven hazel]

is wildfire worth using if you're using a purgatus?

[severe folio]

or worse, enemies dont get anything st all

[severe folio]

but you are capped to only spread 4

[bitter escarp]

if it was 4 to everyone in the effect zone

[smoky fractal]

a ton of the og zealots play a lot less

[bitter escarp]

which is what it reads like

it'd be worth the time

[severe folio]

yeah this not it

[sonic whale]

I'm using it currently and it seems useful but firing more fire at a target may just add more soulblaze so it may be completely washed out by the staff

[severe folio]

you are not increasing the amount of total stacks

[shut shoal]

im on good track now lads

[severe folio]

and you are def not going above the cap stacks either

[eternal escarp]

typical fs wording ig

[severe folio]

this 4 stacks on a target are not being added up to the total cap stack you can put out

for example if your purg can apply 15 stacks

your 4 stacks are not turning this into 18

[sonic whale]

Well it resets the stack's timer right?

[severe folio]

19*

[shut shoal]

lvl25 and have 2 missions without getting hit by elites left to go for every pennance complete

[severe folio]

you are still 15 stacks

it just going to other enemies, sometime the ones that you dont want, or sometime not enough amount of stacks going to the right enemy

because theres a chance just not a single enemy getting 4 stacks

or any stacks at all

[smoky fractal]

wait stacks arent unqiue to each mob? its a TOTAL of 12 stacks?

wtf is that

[severe folio]

no you see, for wildfire its a total of 4 stacks

it can be 12 stacks for each mob, but if its spread via wildfire you are not breaching into 16 on any mob is the point

[proven hazel]

i went with deflector in the end

[smoky fractal]

oh thats is bad lmao

[severe folio]

those 4 extra are not going to go anywhere

[potent echo]

It's a maximum of 4 lmao

[eternal escarp]

it distributes 4 stacks among nearby enemies, none of which can get more than 4 stacks

[potent echo]

All detailed in the atheneum

[shut shoal]

in otherwords, looks cool is all it does for you

[smoky fractal]

that thing is a textbook compred to the ogrynonmicon

lol

[severe folio]

this is details from the antheneum

[bitter escarp]

incomparable minds

[smoky fractal]

bye i queued

[proven hazel]

incredible, i've swapped out wildfire for psykinetics aura instead

[near wyvern]

Cause the build desperately needs horde clear and it is also buffed by Dumdum, even gathers stacks for it.

So if you have stacked up Perfect Timing and Malefic Momentum, ult and pull up your Columnus and start shooting it's quite a lot of burst damage.

[potent echo]

Definitely without a doubt

Psykinetic aura is the best thing for psyker

More shields more creeping flames

[severe folio]

Perilous combust and creeping flame on the other hand

perilous add 3 stacks to other enemies without cap

[potent echo]

Nocap

[severe folio]

so as long as elite are dying, its just +3 everytime

[shut shoal]

two domes psykers on a team is fucking magical

[near wyvern]

Well only the global max 31

For cap

[severe folio]

and creeping flame +6 is unique to creeping flame so thats a +6 on anything being set on fire

[potent echo]

You can reach 31 if you have 3 creeping flames psykers and a purg

[severe folio]

is that the only way to reach 31

[bold flint]

i forgot how exponentially worse people are at the game in malice

[potent echo]

Or you have 10 elites next to a boss

[severe folio]

oh

oh yeah

[potent echo]

But with purg and creeping flames you can get 21-22 stacks

[severe folio]

purg should never have a cap flame stacks

its a fukin weapon

[potent echo]

Then you whip out your uncanny +unyielding melee

[severe folio]

if purg have no cap stacks i would have an excuse to use gaze purg

how much crit can you get in total

with the purg

is all the crit in the talent tree additive ?

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

Big boss damage

[spice veldt]

all sources of crit chance was additive before patch 13

so i assume it's the same for now

[potent echo]

I think so yes, you can download inventory stats mod and I think they tell you

[wheat storm]

What is purg

[potent echo]

Idk if those are real

[tawny pebble]

purgatus staff

the flame one

[wheat storm]

A

[severe folio]

then

[wheat storm]

Damn

[severe folio]

thats 30% crit without warp nexus

[wheat storm]

Isn't it bad af?

[severe folio]

with gaze

[wheat storm]

Damn

[potent echo]

No way

[severe folio]

bad as your mom

[tawny pebble]

its range isn't the greatest

[wheat storm]

Still ain't playing it

[potent echo]

If you stick with team it's meh

[tawny pebble]

but the damage is

[potent echo]

But it gives you great survivability alone

[tawny pebble]

oh yeah, it melts through hordes and staggers others for sure

[spice veldt]

i wouldn't bring it to premades, but you can't go wrong with purgs in pubs

[tawny pebble]

but it blinds the fuck out of your party doesn't it?

[spice veldt]

it's an infinite cleave weapon so it is what it is

[potent echo]

With the correct setup you can even kill crushers and bosses

[severe folio]

it actually does blind your party

[frosty pasture]

have we got word on whats next for darktide?

[severe folio]

from your party pov the flame is significantly less dense

[spice veldt]

blind everyone with bloom turned on

[potent echo]

Another reason to not stick to the team

[severe folio]

but the purg on your end

[sonic whale]

What should I change on this staff? And yes I know about the Cloud Radius

[severe folio]

bright white flames

[severe folio]

barrage, infested

[potent echo]

Barrage and infested yea

[severe folio]

flurry, maniac

[sonic whale]

Already got barrage on it

[potent echo]

Change to flurry and flak respectively

[severe folio]

no we mean

[potent echo]

No remove barrage

[severe folio]

remove barrage for flurry

[potent echo]

It's hot garbage

[sonic whale]

Flurry what?

[severe folio]

warp flurry

[potent echo]

Warp flury

[severe folio]

charge faster when chain charge

[potent echo]

I mean theres only 3 blessings

[sonic whale]

Ik that's why I was wondering

[potent echo]

Other than run and gun

[severe folio]

can use flurry

[potent echo]

Flurry takes abit of work with purg

[sonic whale]

Should I break down this OTHER staff to get the blessing?

[potent echo]

Since cast time takes so long

[potent echo]

Yea

[severe folio]

yeah

[potent echo]

Burn 65% you will never use it

[severe folio]

need at least 76 burn

for max stacks

damage not needed

cloud 80-79 ?

warp resist, quell speed let you cast more

[potent echo]

Cloud just as high as possible

Burn and cloud most important, the rest whatever

[severe folio]

i act prefer high damage too

because my purg was used for gaze

and higher damage let it burn harder

[sonic whale]

It is done for now

Until I get more Plasteel

[severe folio]

no its not

[full atlas]

should i get another perk or nah?

[severe folio]

you forgot the infested

[royal falcon]

me who hasn't gotten past depth 30:

[sonic whale]

^

[severe folio]

ghost shoukd be changed

[severe folio]

no excuse

[sonic whale]

Blame Hadron she is throttling me

[severe folio]

no blaming the cult

[full atlas]

what would be a better Blessing?

[severe folio]

the codex should have an entry about it

[severe folio]

Infernus

dumdum is good

seem like unyielding perk is also good

means this gun shred big orgyn and bosses

[bitter escarp]

was messing around with the attachments

turns out that the las muzzle attachments move the recoil flash on the columnus

[severe folio]

i never knew that flashlight can trigger daemonhost

[bitter escarp]

instead of filling the whole screen with muzzle flash like with autogun muzzles

it moves it mostly offscreen

[severe folio]

where do they move it

so to the side ?

[bitter escarp]

think bullpup magazine well

[sonic whale]

😨

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-i-will-do-what-i-must-starwars-gif-11094969

[bitter escarp]

or around where the stock attaches to the receiver

[severe folio]

not even strapping me to the raptor storm can make me enlist to that

[sonic whale]

If only it was Fog 😔

[severe folio]

die with centipede in ear

[sonic whale]

Yeah I don't blame anyone

[sonic whale]

Please no

[severe folio]

hear mutant howl for the rest of your life

which isnt a lot

[sonic whale]

I already do

[severe folio]

but its a few hours

[sonic whale]

Also Chainsword Mortis Op Zealot

Akward

[severe folio]

mortis ?

[sonic whale]

DLC outfit and protrait

[severe folio]

oh

youre a goner

[sonic whale]

It is nice I just hate the pattern

[royal falcon]

archivum sycorax designers when OSHA shows up
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849750633967910942/1112988906988777582/Tumblr_l_98632293857758.gif

[severe folio]

what is OSHA

[royal falcon]

a dream

[severe folio]

huh

[bitter escarp]

lostech

[royal falcon]

lsces I thought your pfp was the signalis lady

[severe folio]

if i have a cent for every person who say that

i would have 2

but no its not

[royal falcon]

sadness

[severe folio]

its this

[dense bramble]

horny jail

[severe folio]

who in jail

[dense bramble]

POLICE

[severe folio]

you should be in jaik

jail

[dense bramble]

HELP ME

POLICE

[sonic whale]

As I'vesaid before it reminds me of signalis

[severe folio]

make sense

[twilit carbon]

havent changed anything. is it worth keeping?

[severe folio]

yes

kind of crazy stat but this can work

[twilit carbon]

what should i change out for?

[severe folio]

youll just edge a little bit too close to the void

[twilit carbon]

idm

[severe folio]

but maniac and flak damage will be good

would say the warp nexus is a bit low

so

you might eventually get a better staff than this

[twilit carbon]

i figured i will at some point. my friends keeping dragging me through auric damnations while we level up a friend from 1, so

its either i die, or i get gud, and slowly the second one's happening a bit more

[sonic whale]

With Warp Rider this will be fun

[severe folio]

yeah

id want that with my scrier purg

[sonic whale]

Also pain, Damn Auric and people do not push Poxbursters 😭

I have died twice so far due to micro hordes of Poxbursters and the vet boltering them

2nd time currently in the time-out zone

[severe folio]

are they having fun, the one with level 1

[twilit carbon]

oh yeah. lol

he's having a day and a half

[severe folio]

vet as smart as the rock orgyn throw

[twilit carbon]

this game is like dark souls for him

[potent echo]

Must be a little rough not being able to do anything

[sonic whale]

I am honestly getting more and more entrenched that Vet players have no idea how to do anything, even use their Volley-Fire

[potent echo]

More like SL1 dark souls playthrough

[severe folio]

yeah i dont know if its the same game

but if theyre smiling and your friend smiling and big e smiling and the approaching trapper smiling, shouldnt be a problem

[twilit carbon]

he's contributing. cant do damage, but he's skilled enough to cc where he can. his first setup was going smite psyker, and its been fun so far

[potent echo]

At least he will have a headstart in the plasteel race

[pearl lion]

Is there a benefit to running smite and surge?

[twilit carbon]

smite is fantastic for room size crowd control

if you want time to stop for every mob in front of you, smite is fantastic

[harsh urchin]

yes, it's bugged so all the smite talents apply to surge

[twilit carbon]

uh, my brain isnt clicking. whats surge?

[pearl lion]

ahhh

[harsh urchin]

staff

[rigid rune]

Can the circle thingy staff crit?

[twilit carbon]

gotcha

[harsh urchin]

basically the staff does double damage right now due to bugs

[pearl lion]

So you may as well just use the surge staff?

Instead of smite?

[harsh urchin]

so a lot of people are running the staff in auric damnations

[grand shoal]

Are we suuuuure it’s a bug? I want it not to be

[harsh urchin]

wdym ?

[potent echo]

Exploit surge still can't solo 20 ragers

So it's not like the most obnoxious thing

[harsh urchin]

oh yeah

it's super op

but you still need to play well

it's not like old assail

where you just face into keyboard

[potent echo]

Kind of like patch 14 powerswords

[harsh urchin]

yar

[potent echo]

Except you can definitely solo 20 ragers with psword

[harsh urchin]

yar, here's my refined bug-abuse surge build for aurics

[pearl lion]

Thats pretty close to what im running

[severe folio]

wouldnr caught me with that build

[sonic whale]

Why do I not really trust Zealot and Veteran builds with the revolver?

[severe folio]

no failsafe

[glossy ember]

definitely unintended and getting fixed

how soon? no idea

[severe folio]

next year

[glossy ember]

but that'll make surge popularity drop i guess lol

[severe folio]

yeah

[sonic whale]

No failsafe?

[severe folio]

what do they fallback to when their revolver dont work

nade ? ran out

melee ? unlikely

[sonic whale]

I know they can use infiltrate in intresting ways but most of the time I see them just use it to nope out of a situation and leave everyone even stickier then being left to deal with it all on their own

[severe folio]

so they just run away

exactly

[sonic whale]

I hate it as well, as the Vet can bring firepower or Voice of Command to the table, they bring nether

[severe folio]

we need to be able to play solo with bots we create

loadout we manages

weapons we selected

[heady sapphire]

This bug everyone keeps talking about only applies with empowered psionics right

[severe folio]

yeah

[tawny cobalt]

wasnt that bug patched

[severe folio]

its from EP to begin with

[tawny cobalt]

the one with the infinnite lightning

[severe folio]

its a new bug

[tawny cobalt]

oh

[severe folio]

yep

one EP after another

no more infinite lightning but now we got limb tearing lightning from surge

buffed by EP

[glossy ember]

EP roulette where one fix affects another aspect of psyker

[tawny cobalt]

limb tearing?

[heady sapphire]

K cool hopefully when they fix the bug my surge isn’t getting hard nerfed without it

[sonic whale]

That's a question, what does Smite left click and right click do? I know both shock but unsure what the differences are

[heady sapphire]

The added gibbing effect for surge was intended

[severe folio]

next EP fix gonna bug BB out and then we just gonna get BB that dont consume EP

[severe folio]

ever seen lightning so violent it rip people body apart

[heady sapphire]

Left is more single target specific although damage will spread and right is more group focused

Left click also builds damage over time with lower damage on release where right click deals increased damage on release

[severe folio]

smite shock in close to medium range, to wide range of enemies, stun them in place for as long as you hold it

surge shock enemies at close, medium, long range, hit 1 enemy and spread to another, deal massive damage to first enemy

[sonic whale]

Oh okay? I kind of wish the left clicks 'release' action was more a final blow then rather then a push, as that push is useful but so many team mates think that:
Pushed down = dead
When it isn't the case

[severe folio]

thats true

they need to learn that dead from smite =blow apart

if smite get a finishing like surge it would be nice

unfortunately they didnt make smite with killing in mind

[sonic whale]

Yeah but they're all Veterans and Zealots sibling, even the Ogryn's know better

[heady sapphire]

Right click is usually what you want to be doing unless you’re targeting a specific target tbh

[heady sapphire]

Stack soulblaze and watch the pink fireworks

[severe folio]

by the time you finish stack soul blaze

the horde is usually dead by your ally

[sonic whale]

You are at 100%

[severe folio]

idk how people find the time to both burn and quell and smite

are they playing soli

solo

[sonic whale]

Also good staff or bad staff? I got it as a Gift of the Emperor

[rigid rune]

It's pretty ok

[heady sapphire]

Stats are good staff is trash

[severe folio]

can be a good fire trauma staff

[tawny cobalt]

if we are reviewing

[sonic whale]

Fire trauma?

[severe folio]

blazing spirit on trauma

[tawny cobalt]

i have no idea what i am supposed to want for rapier

but is this good

[severe folio]

you want mk4

[tawny cobalt]

oh :(

[severe folio]

but that rampage is good

[bitter escarp]

swap precog for uncanny and infested for whatever you want

[severe folio]

should be collected for another sword

[sonic whale]

**Dueling sword

[severe folio]

right

another dueling sword

maniac +unyielding great

[sonic whale]

Is mk2 not good?

[bitter escarp]

not as much as 4

it's kinda bleh but workable

[severe folio]

main stat of dueling sword damage , finess, penetration

[heady sapphire]

Anyway don’t nerf my surge staff without empowered psionics fatshark pls and thank I need it for specialist removal k bye

[severe folio]

im sure they will see how positive it is

and come up with a compromise

they did come up with a compromise for infinite smite

[sonic whale]

I've been running Warp charges with it and as long as I have one WC I can splatter pretty much any specialist

[severe folio]

yes

thats the bug

[sonic whale]

I still don't really get EP and it feels off because I've used-WAIT WHAT SERIOUSLY?

But that's with Warp Charges not EP

[severe folio]

you

….

warp charge ?

you mean warp siphon ?

[sonic whale]

Yeah

[severe folio]

hm

then its just what the surge staff doing as intended

killing specials

[sonic whale]

This is the staff though

[meager isle]

warp siphon... yeah...my surge staff has been feeling pretty strong too and gibbing people, I don't like EP and don't use it, don't have any smite nodes in my build either

[severe folio]

perfectly normal

[heady sapphire]

Me with max warp charges and a head that’s about to explode clearing the room of ragers without needing to abuse some shitty bug

[severe folio]

infested damage is very weird though

should make it unyielding

[sonic whale]

I just wish the jumped lightning did more damage or staggered the other two enemies caught up

[severe folio]

or maniac

the jump lightning should stagger

thats what it suppose to do

[sonic whale]

Me too

[glossy ember]

i'd go maniac or flak

[severe folio]

nah no flak

unyielding

[glossy ember]

do you 3 shot maulers and 2 s flak ragers regardless of not having flak

[severe folio]

i 2 shot flak rager regardless of no flak

[sonic whale]

EP I simply don't understand and just feel like Warp Siphon is more reliable as you just kill specialist guaranteed and it gives you one rather then having RNG or wasting a point on having the same

[heady sapphire]

Then the room fills up with soulblaze and I vent and switch to crowd control smite time and the room turns into pink mist

[severe folio]

with EP you go from 4 shot crusher to 2

[heady sapphire]

Just as Tzeentch intended

[glossy ember]

wb maulers

[sonic whale]

With my lightning build I use the x2 shields

Stun em till they're dead

[severe folio]

same deal

[glossy ember]

hm

[sonic whale]

Eh, BB does that fine in two

[glossy ember]

i'll give unyielding a shot on my staff then

although not sure i can 2s maulers without flak (when using scrier)

[severe folio]

i see

[sonic whale]

I do wish that the Surge staff's primary attack was something like throwing a lightning bolt rather then the normal orb

Or make it a stagger bolt, low damage but high stagger

[wheat storm]

Fr

[severe folio]

they probably should have give the primary attack smite

and reserve the smite blitz slot for something else

[glossy ember]

then we'd have even more bugs

[sonic whale]

If I go electic boi, I want that lightning not Voidstrikes and Trauma's ball of Warp-Powered Machine Gun-ing

[severe folio]

doesnt sound worse than right now

[glossy ember]

true

[severe folio]

i don’t understand

[sonic whale]

Also wish Asail was replaced or we had an option for a fire based blitz, I feel incomplete taking Brain Burst

[glossy ember]

imma test breakpoints today in psykhenarium with maniacs and unyielding

[sonic whale]

You can spam out the bolts without a care in the world, you can be the 2nd best suppression weapon on the team behind the Zealot with Suppression Node or Ogryn with Stubber.
It is a warp powered machine gun

The best thing is if it's a high warp resist staff you can do it with either Voistrikes alt fire or the primary fire

As the only thing stopping you is how fast you can click

[severe folio]

ah

yeah

more unique primary fire

[sonic whale]

WPMG

[bold maple]

just looks like a shitty autogun

[sonic whale]

Also I'm annoyed about this bug? The 2nd melee attack cancels if you don't charge it which is really annoying

[sonic whale]

A FREE ammo autogun, but it does good supression honestly

Also as long as you stand still it will practically always go for the dot

[severe folio]

warp stubber

[sonic whale]

Yes, just low RPM

[bold maple]

idk man, I'll take a lv 10 vet with a gun over that

[sonic whale]

WPS

[bold maple]

looks useless lmao

[sonic whale]

So you'd willingly refuse to use it just because there's something better? I'm not saying it's optimal I'm just saying you have it

Most veterans aim to kill over supress and idk if you can supress gunners

[bold maple]

why not just kill them then lmao

with a voidstaff that also suppress on top

ofc I refuse to use it, cause it makes me useless to my team, looks fun sure

I run revolver psyker occasionally and that's 100% more useful than that lmao

[sonic whale]

Respectfully when I say this, eww. I dislike gun Psyker personally

[bold maple]

er sure you do you mate

[severe folio]

very odd right

hate gunskyer but like the warp stubber

[ornate hamlet]

The suppression is okay, but with the other tools psyker can have it feels a bit odd

[sonic whale]

Reasons I dislike it is ammo drain for a class that can have FREE ammo, also why not play Zealot and do the Revolver strat, or do people do it just so they can have asail?

[sonic whale]

Not saying it's optimal, but I'm just saying it's useful

[severe folio]

scrier gaze actually

and occasional burning with autogun

[sonic whale]

Tried it once and never looked back

[ornate hamlet]

You can pop SG and likely run fast and have toughness DR to rush the enemies, you can shout at them to open space to rush, you can get close enough with sliding to spam purgatus, you can snipe them with voidstrike or revolver, you can shit yourself behind cover and spam assail

And all of these involve directly damaging the enemy with good attacks

[bold maple]

it's useful if you're in malice yeah

even heresy that's dogwater lmao

[severe folio]

its def not a good shootin tool

[sonic whale]

Why are you rushing as a Psyker lol, that sounds personally like a Zealot thing over Psyker, I like to be a support or raw unadulterated damage Psyker

[bold maple]

I mean I like doing stuff for fun but lets be realistic it's not that useful to go up to 100% peril just to suppress 5 shitty gunner

[severe folio]

would pick guns with ammo drain over infinite ammo pea shooter

[potent echo]

What

[sonic whale]

Oh yeah don't use it on Heresy at all

[potent echo]

If you wanted damage as psyker it's gun psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker's kit supports rushing

[potent echo]

Nothing else in psykers kit can outdps columnus

[glossy ember]

you don't use lmb often on surge staff anyway, it's mostly to hit things that are too far or to finish something out of melee range while close to 100 peril

[ornate hamlet]

They don't have an actual "press F to dash" button, but anyone who can slide and is good at melee can rush enemies

[sonic whale]

Brain Burst: Am I joke to you?

[ornate hamlet]

And when you have a toothpick that can one-shot a mauler... yeah

Psyker's pretty goated in melee

[feral knoll]

Bosses would like to have a word

[potent echo]

Are you for real

[spice veldt]

brain burst's DPS is not very good

[potent echo]

I need to know if I should laugh with you or otherwise

[severe folio]

you are actually dullard if you compare columnus with bb

[bold maple]

bb is utility not dps tool lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Revolver is unironically a better brain burst

Let's be glad psyker doesn't have plasma gun, because then BB would be dead

[potent echo]

Yea but you can't bring revolver and staff

[feral knoll]

The only way I use BB is with the automatic proc it does

[potent echo]

So BB just rounds out some loadouts

[feral knoll]

Tbh

[potent echo]

But it's not a DPS tool

[ornate hamlet]

BB's utility for psyker was always in two things: allowing you to bring a weapon that doesn't excel at long ranges and killing shit around corners or from behind cover

And it was pretty good utility, mind

[potent echo]

The auto proc just looks flashy but when does it actually give value

[bold maple]

yeah bb is basically a sniper rifle

you use it when you want to run something like purge staff

[silk hawk]

Idk it's nice dps on boss... Not the best, but far away from garbage

[bold maple]

with 0 range

[sonic whale]

BB is a great against bosses what you on about, I have splattered on heresy a plague ogryn with the team with purely using BB

[glossy ember]

love me surge staff scrier

[potent echo]

Just poke it with your uncanny stick, way faster

[ornate hamlet]

BB's DPS is... not exactly desirable

[sonic whale]

It's reliable and good

And it's also FREE

[silk hawk]

Ewww i am gona get dirty if i go close to that thing....

[spice veldt]

doesn't change the fact that its raw DPS is quite dogshit

[feral knoll]

I just kinda use it on gun psyker because I didn’t like assail with it tbh

[ornate hamlet]

There's a lot of tradeoffs it makes for the aimbot infinite range attack

[potent echo]

You are talking to a purg main

[bold maple]

until bb get an aoe it will forever remain niche lol

[severe folio]

i would take a gun even if its not free over bb free damage

[bold maple]

like channel bb, pop 3 closest head + primary target or sum

[silk hawk]

Bb is the best... 🙂

[sonic whale]

Being able to grab the mind of a mauler in the middle of a horde to delete him or two shot a crushers brain within 10s is pretty fun and hard to disagree that the snap of it is powerful

[potent echo]

I always run smite gun because it's the only one that is useful when gun isn't

[severe folio]

i mean

[spice veldt]

whether BB is good is distinct from the fact that it has dogshit DPS

[severe folio]

you can do exactly that with a columnus, and you do it faster

[ornate hamlet]

Like, BB is undeniably a good tool, but it's not exactly damaging

Not on the same level as some other things psyker can also use

[frail sand]

so hadron bricked many staff, but this one seemed to have survived. any recommendations for a blazing trauma build?

[potent echo]

I thought all the psykers cupping balls during hordes have gone extinct

[sonic whale]

I feel like people have been asail-brain-rotted so much that they haven't attempted BB since the patch as a 'whip out when elite is in view' tool as opposed to being a main weapon

[potent echo]

Turns out they still around

[spice veldt]

defending BB's DPS is a hill that you do not want to die on

[severe folio]

none of us is even talking about bb

[spice veldt]

especially when it is very easily verifiable

[severe folio]

or assail

[potent echo]

Have you ever used an uncanny blessing weapon

[severe folio]

we just talkin about gunpsyker lol

[lunar hollow]

BB's dps has historically been so bad that people without scoreboard would mald about kill stealing

[bold maple]

eh yeah

ppl really sleep on guns cause of ammo issue when in reality if you dont spam it on trash you basically never run out of ammo on any gun lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Like, if you want good boss damage, grab an MG12 with HH and DA and dance through the melee attacks

[sonic whale]

What's the Uncanny blessing I don't know it off-by-heart

[lunar hollow]

which is impressive really

[ornate hamlet]

If you want good boss damage in melee, mk4 DS and deimos are goated

[sonic whale]

That's their skill issue and they need to accept that

[glossy ember]

combat knife?

[ornate hamlet]

That goes for elites too

[eternal escarp]

the BB killstealing was more about losing warp stacks than anything

[potent echo]

It's just something that lets you kill maulers with 2 hits

[severe folio]

mk4 ds with rampage is such a fuk all on boss

[glossy ember]

tbf rampage is bugged

[ornate hamlet]

Mk4 DS with uncanny is so fucking stupid

[glossy ember]

kinda broken

[severe folio]

true

shred is more consistent

[ornate hamlet]

You can delete carapace like it's nothing and still fuck everything else

[glossy ember]

i avoid using rampage bc of that

[silk hawk]

Idk i am always rocking bb and i am always 1-2 place on boss dmg, well excluding that times when someone nearly one shots bosses xD

[ornate hamlet]

Force swords and dueling swords have such an idiotic level of finesse and I love it

[severe folio]

2-3 shot crusher in a blink

[eternal escarp]

heres my ds its not great but no locks yet so eh

[silk hawk]

Obviously i mix bb with melee a bit, but i am satisfied...

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like riposte, BUT

I'd change those perks

[severe folio]

unyielding maniac

one shot mutant

boss killer

[eternal escarp]

yea thats the dilemma rn, unyeilding maniac or better perks

[sonic whale]

Anyway with warp charges I think you can increase the damage of BB and pop crushers in one hit but it may have been he was already at 75% health or lower when it happned

[ornate hamlet]

I think you don't even need maniac to one-shot the mutant

I might be misremembering

[bold maple]

im levelling my vet rn and I miss my duelling swords

power swords are nice but I'll take duelling over it

[severe folio]

nah you can never one shot crusher with bb

thats a lie

[potent echo]

Always unyielding imo, helps you vs bosses so much

And it doesn't need flak

[severe folio]

unless hes being railed on by everyone else forget bb 1 shotting crusher

[sonic whale]

That's what I put the I think and the clear disclaimer

[ornate hamlet]

I can't play vet without power sword anymore

[severe folio]

well im correcting you by saying it doesnt

[eternal escarp]

ds4 boss damage seems fine wout unyielding

[ornate hamlet]

PC3 and the mk6's push attack is a fucking stupid combo