psyker-class

[echo frigate]

Oh rlly

That's nice

[plucky flax]

Hrm I can't find anything like that on all 3 human characters.

[glacial ingot]

it does a lil less damage tho

[echo frigate]

Sticking gets ya killed sometimes

[glacial ingot]

I use both of them in a video I posted in #darktide-pics-vids if you wanna go look

its right at the bottom

[harsh urchin]

damn really?

[idle aurora]

But unlike chainsword it actually stunlocks the target

[glacial ingot]

I think chainsword stunlocks

[harsh urchin]

where are you checking

[echo frigate]

Chain stunlocks lol

[plucky flax]

There's this but it's tiny print.

I am using the preview all cosmetics mod.

[glacial ingot]

I've only used the veteran chainsword but I recall it stunlocking

[harsh urchin]

i dont think this is it

hmmmmm

[sonic coral]

Weird lookin boobs

[idle aurora]

Oh no lol, the amount of times i forgot that im not using a fs, and then ripped into crusher, to only eat a overhead was enough to remember that it doesn't stun

[harsh urchin]

damn I wish i had taken a screenshot

when I saw it

it was on some random dude on the morningstar

[echo frigate]

I'm actually shocked

[glacial ingot]

oh crushers and larger enemies dont get stunlocked

not by the chainsword

lmfao

[echo frigate]

Sticking will get me killed

I know that much

[glacial ingot]

Only if you're dumb with it

[echo frigate]

Eh

[plucky flax]

This?

[harsh urchin]

yes

[glacial ingot]

It's great for clearing mutants, gunners, shotgunners, etc

[harsh urchin]

this one

[plucky flax]

It's black checkquered pattern tho

[harsh urchin]

how do i get this one

LOL

[glacial ingot]

all of your FLESHY specials eat shit vs the chainsword

[plucky flax]

It's free.

[harsh urchin]

oh fuck

[plucky flax]

Well no,

[echo frigate]

Not if you're 30 lol

[plucky flax]

I think it's pre-order bonus.

Or twitch bonus or something.

[idle aurora]

"free"

[echo frigate]

Shield counters 99% of everything

[sonic coral]

You'll need a time machine

[harsh urchin]

how do i preorder

darktide

[drifting violet]

Wasn’t the preview cosmetics mod hidden by the original creator?

[echo frigate]

And voidstrike go brrrrr

[idle aurora]

Isn't it Imperial edition stuff?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but I still got a copy.

[echo frigate]

First get a time machine

[idle aurora]

Oh ye, mortis, 100% imp edition

[glacial ingot]

Mortis operative is indeed imperial edition

it is NOT free

[harsh urchin]

can i buy a

imperial edition key

[plucky flax]

[harsh urchin]

and get it

LOL

[glacial ingot]

yeah but like uhh

idk if you should discuss buying keys here

[plucky flax]

I think you can upgrade to it.

Most games give you an option on steam to upgrade to premium edition.

[echo frigate]

You should be able to upgrade

No matter the platform

Mone is mone

[harsh urchin]

here it is

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1981790/Warhammer_40000_Darktide__Imperial_Edition_Upgrade/

Steam

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Imperial Edition Upgrade

Buy Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Imperial Edition and get:Loyalist Pack: Purge heresy in style with these 4 unique class outfits, 8 weapon skin patterns, one set of headgear as well as an Ogryn body tattoo.Mortis Veteran Portrait Frame: A cosmetic portrait frame used to pay tribute to the fallen defenders of Tertium Hive.Caducades Backpack: A co...

Price

$24.52

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[idle aurora]

Ye, just do it on steam, maybe whait for a discount again

[harsh urchin]

wait

which class

is it on

[plucky flax]

Zealot

The psyker one doesn't have eagle print.

[harsh urchin]

nice

ok yeah i want this skin LOL

[glacial ingot]

as someone who started out buying the imperial edition I got tired of the cosmetics really quickly

I hunt for penance drip now

if you want aquilas tho the imp edition upgrade's a good deal

I used my spare aquilas to get the headgear in the pic

[harsh urchin]

oh yeah? how much is 2.5k aquilas normally?

[idle aurora]

Mod that show's hidden cosmetics is honestly goated, actual money saver

[glacial ingot]

I'll have to check rq

[harsh urchin]

12-13$ normally

looks like

[glacial ingot]

nvm

its not a good deal LMFAO

[feral knoll]

Is the Vraks MK III Headhunter the one with the two round burst?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you get $13 worth of skins.

[harsh urchin]

vrak3 is 3-round burst

[glacial ingot]

true but you're not gonna use half of them

[harsh urchin]

agri9 is the 2-round burst

[glacial ingot]

the weapon skins are nice I suppose but

[feral knoll]

Gotcha. Thank you

[glacial ingot]

I guess you'd need to want both the skins and the aquilas

[idle aurora]

The one top tier item that imp edition has is thunder hammer skin, actual unique look

[plucky flax]

Imperial edition black camo.

[glacial ingot]

and what sucks is the people in the steam reviews say that console players got more aquilas for buying the imperial edition

[harsh urchin]

ya i like how this looks but idk about paying $25

for it LOL

gonna sleep on it

[idle aurora]

Just whait for discount

[prime elk]

14k

[plucky flax]

Aye if you have excessive income or not only you know.

[glacial ingot]

Jesus christ

[prime elk]

Yeah hence people being pissed

14k is hell of a lot

[olive ember]

Well they do get more

[glacial ingot]

just checked the microsoft store and they reduced the ludicrous 14k to 2.5k for the xbox players too

god damn

[near wyvern]

I heard it was a launch bonus

[idle aurora]

It was up for 1 week i think

[glacial ingot]

yeah

very silly

at least the game is fire though

[shadow wigeon]

It was because of Game Pass, largely.
They wanted Xbox players to put some money into the game, otherwise they would have made very ltitle off them.

[glacial ingot]

the pain of good business

[echo frigate]

I held out on throwing a little bit of money at them until after the deal

I'm big sad

[idle aurora]

I honestly don't care about that part, what's actually stupid is that they jacked the price to 2900, while giving less stuff, 1st few batches of cosmetics where cool, skin + 1-2 weapon skins + charm

[plucky flax]

I'm out here murdering crushers. Why is plasma so op

Without + carapace damage.

[echo frigate]

I smell a vet

[glacial ingot]

carnage

[distant roost]

penance drip best drip

[echo frigate]

They are legit going to go around breaking stuff for classes

[distant roost]

it proves your worth

[glacial ingot]

There's more dead crushers in that meat grinder than there are dead gnats in the average bowl of dish soap, water and vinegar

[echo frigate]

Fr

[glacial ingot]

I love my golden drip icons ❤️

[echo frigate]

The legendary psyker penace drip looks so good

[plucky flax]

I want voidstrike to shoot this fast and do this much damage.

With this much cleave.

[echo frigate]

I got the pants

[glacial ingot]

my vet for example

I have the golden pants too but they just don't look that good

[distant roost]

i need to do my zealot penance still

[echo frigate]

No golden headpiece for psker makes me sad

[distant roost]

and psyker surprisingly

i didnt know that private games were a thing so 💀

[echo frigate]

There's one that you have to do in a private game

[glacial ingot]

why is my power sword a portal into the warp???

[distant roost]

right here

[idle aurora]

They work with snow camo reskin in the ordo shop

[plucky flax]

Does voidstrike stop charging mutie?

[echo frigate]

OH AWESOME

[echo frigate]

Nope

[glacial ingot]

gonna check that out

[echo frigate]

In fact I 2 or 3 shot muties with a nearly perfect staff

[distant roost]

its in the redacted section

[plucky flax]

With full charge?

[glacial ingot]

this?

[idle aurora]

Also imp edition vet armor looks pretty good with them

[echo frigate]

I believe so

Or almost

[plucky flax]

Aye and I am just left clicking with plasma.

[glacial ingot]

True that but I've got ocd and the mismatched camo patterns irk me

[plucky flax]

I can't play voidstrike anymore after tasting this power.

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[glacial ingot]

honestly might cash out on this simply cuz of the guardsman larp it achieves

[idle aurora]

Ye, atleast it works much better then black/red top

[echo frigate]

Then use surge LMAO

[glacial ingot]

facts

[idle aurora]

green version of this torso armor + green helmet look very pog with these pants

[plucky flax]

Without bug can't 2 shot mutie. Yes with crits and full buffs but you might not crit or having buffs during a real game.

[echo frigate]

Don't pretend like fatshark won't nerf the plasma gun

Surge staff is the psyker equivalent

[plucky flax]

But without 100 cleave value.

[sonic coral]

is that torso armor just in the ordo shop?

[glacial ingot]

yeah

[plucky flax]

@harsh urchin I have the skin irl

[hasty valve]

Is Empowered Psionics good when using Smite?

[echo frigate]

Its debateable

[hasty valve]

Was thinking so

[glossy ember]

crazy since the class is op af

[echo frigate]

It'll actually kill stuff

[echo frigate]

Like simply doing more bleed

For no reason

Smite on psyker requires teammates with brains tho

Otherwise

Uh

[hasty valve]

Yeah

[echo frigate]

Yikes

[harsh urchin]

umm

[glacial ingot]

Honestly I be using smite even when my teammates are stupid because we all tend to get stuck in horde arenas anyways and they dont know how to block or dodge so smiting just works

https://tenor.com/view/angry-annoyed-lightning-scream-creepy-gif-15397715

[echo frigate]

🤷‍♂️

Smite falls off tho after malice

[glacial ingot]

True, true

but I'm a melee psyker anyways so when I need to get stam I just smite LOL

[echo frigate]

I see

[hasty valve]

Might skip keystones entirely on my Smite build. Get extra toughness and toughness dmg reduction instead

[echo frigate]

I would not do that

Warp charges or empowered psionics lets you cook with fire

[glacial ingot]

probably the worst built yall seen but it works for me

[echo frigate]

But it'll deffo work in low difficulties

[hasty valve]

Thought you said empowered was debatable on smite?

[echo frigate]

Yeah

It's a use case thing

Raw support=Warp Charges

Damage=Empowered Psionics

[echo frigate]

I've seen a build very similar that is goated af

But it runs shield

And has maxed out warp charges

[glacial ingot]

idek how to maintain warp charges yet lol

started psyker maybe a week ago

[echo frigate]

Warp charges fade overtime unless stuff dies

[glacial ingot]

yeah like specialists

[echo frigate]

And hitting rb/g gets rid of all of them

In return you get your rb/g back faster

But you sacrifice damage and warp resistance when ya do that

Warp charges are kind of seen as nice buffs

[hasty valve]

I mean I wanna do dmg but is smite really the way to go for that?

[echo frigate]

No

Smite can be cracked in some cases

But it's usually hold button and let teammates do work against debuffed enemies

[sonic whale]

🤓

[glacial ingot]

lmfao

[sonic whale]

Testing out hair styles

As the one I was using makes the rear headnot bug out

[frank moat]

oof

You're certain it does that in-game? Sometimes they only bug out in the menu

[hasty valve]

Yeah, so I might just unlock Warp Siphon but then put the remaining stuff into toughness

For Auric, where I usually can trust my teammates

[echo frigate]

There's a point where like your health doesn't matter lol

If ya can't dodge

Then rip

But if your playing Auric then you are good

[frank moat]

Ew okay nevermind just tried it myself

[hasty valve]

I got the dodge game down, but when shit hits the fan in auric it's nice to not loose all toughness getting hit by 3 bullets

[sonic whale]

Yep

[frank moat]

My condolences, sibling

[echo frigate]

Shield>>>>>

Also deflector force sword

[sonic whale]

With this mask it seems sadly like most haircuts suck, I hope we have a version which is this visor without the lower face mask but with a skullcap instead, like this 2nd image

But ez pz, just gotta play Psyker more for all the Normal Penances to be complete

I just got warp battery (really hard to do currently for me) and that private game one

[frank moat]

gg

[sonic whale]

also that MM one can you do it if you 100% do the damage to the monster? Or is it a stickler and requires 90%

[charred parcel]

hey, I have a question because appearantly there is some confusion going around: for the Warp Battery penance, does it need to be 300 seconds without any interruptions or just 300 in general in one mission? I always assumed the former

[frank moat]

90% minimum

[sonic whale]

Without interupt

[charred parcel]

(not that I manage to do either because Malice is just a race against everyone else that I always lose)

yeah I figured as much

[sonic whale]

It's really hard to do currently

As the warp charge decay is quick

[frank moat]

Yea it was a cakewalk pre-patch 13

[charred parcel]

I tried Heresy a few times, but got yelled at by randos a lot so I just assume I'm not good enough for those difficulties

[strong gulch]

Hersey is the worst tbh.

[charred parcel]

and I know damnation and auric have plenty of specials and all that, but I don't dare try

[sonic whale]

Also what is a 'flash' mission?

[strong gulch]

Don't have them yet

[frank moat]

Flash missions don't exist yet

[sonic whale]

Damn

[visual adder]

Potato 🥔

[sonic whale]

Also 45,867 enemies killed

Wiped out barely a quarter of a quarter of the Hive cities population

[charred parcel]

I guess I should wait with the penance and hope for a patch that nerfs it. It was clearly balanced around the old skill

alternatively bribe a team to let me snipe all the specials but ehh

[frank moat]

Yeah it's not great atm, I think your best bet would be a warpfire build with a Purgatus for the passive charges

[shadow wigeon]

I wouldn't take much from the input of the average heresy player (no offence to anyone present)

[frank moat]

With assail or BB for picking off snipers or distant gunners

[plucky flax]

You have a long way to go young padawan.

[charred parcel]

I tried both but I just can't compete with the speed other people just clear everything

[sonic whale]

I know 🙏

[echo frigate]

Empowered BB is goated

free one shots

[charred parcel]

that plus forced breaks with elevators or monstrosities usually kill whatever hope I have of keeping the stacks aliver

[echo frigate]

Run the perk that casts it faster after using your rb/g

[sonic whale]

Ask them at the start of the mission if they can leave elites you are already killing to you. I did that for the "Push 7 enemies in 2s" one

[charred parcel]

I am not allowed to use my F skill

it removes the stacks

[echo frigate]

Tru

Empowered BB then

[charred parcel]

already running that

[charred parcel]

oh I tried that plenty for both, people just ignore or actively grief me every time

[idle aurora]

Oh whait, I was like, wtf, keeping max charges for 300 sec is ez, just pop poxwalkers. And then remembered the rework

[strong gulch]

right?

[sonic whale]

Really? Most people I ask are always friendly about it as long as you ask nicely and make it a question of "Can I do x" over "I am going to do X"

I've been lucky then

[strong gulch]

How can you do empowered BB if the goal is to keep warp charges up?

Sperate keystones.

[sonic whale]

Yeah trying EP is hard I could never sustain it

[charred parcel]

oh yeah right, was a different thing. I run the game on non-English so names are a bit weird at times

[sonic whale]

Warp Charges increase your damage iirc and charge time to a lighter degree

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah that's rough, because the old build made it easy with Barrage = more stacks you the shorter you cooldown was. and faster BB all together.
That penance is pretty tricky now... huh...

[strong gulch]

For the penance. Warp charges are on a separate keystone.

[shadow wigeon]

TBH I wouldn't bother trying to get that penance below hi intensity damnation, the lower difficulties are very..... empty.

[charred parcel]

yeah either that or wait for a patch I'd wager. I am hesitant to just queue up damnation to be fair which is why I started levelling the other classes

[frank moat]

Can't say I really trust FS to fix penances any time soon

[shadow wigeon]

I wouldn't be surprised if they never patch that one.

[frank moat]

Considering their solution to the harder launch penances was just to make them private match only

[shadow wigeon]

The fact that you can't even use fast BB for it is pretty brutal.

[charred parcel]

I guess it depends on how well they take feedback, which I don't know. While doing research I just found many annoyed playerd because of that very penance

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it's a bit comical how much has been stacked against you for that penance.

It was ~~pretty ~~really easy to get before, though.

[charred parcel]

the fun part would be that whenever I go into a very hard game mode, I am not even allowed to make myself less squishy with my shield. one more reason I am not sure I want to do that with randos

[shadow wigeon]

pubbing it won't happen, IMO. I wouldn't even try, personally.
I would head to LFG on a busy night and see if you can find a group to help.

[echo frigate]

Shield is incredible

People do not understand shield

[charred parcel]

oh yeah shield and bubble are great

[shadow wigeon]

If you can get out of lower difficulties, the sooner the better.

[echo frigate]

Shield saves lives

[brittle crest]

I got the warp battery penance basically accidentally playing damnation games FWIW

[charred parcel]

but the penance literally will not allow me because I lose my stacks

[echo frigate]

Lets you get off the most BS rezzes

[steel flame]

Nothing beats watching specials bounce off shield

[brittle crest]

take the "10% chance to get warp charge on kill" and it's basically up all the time

[echo frigate]

That's if stuff dies to soulflame burn

[shadow wigeon]

Oh, purg staff?

[charred parcel]

4% for the coherence kills

[orchid shadow]

Did they change the Warp Battery Penance? I thought it didn't need to be continuous.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah there you go.

[brittle crest]

o sorry 4% for coherence kills

[charred parcel]

it needs to be appearantly and from my testing

[brittle crest]

that one and i was basically always at max stacks

[steel flame]

It's always been continuous

[orchid shadow]

Can't be. I got mine and for sure it wasn't continuous when I finished the penance.

[steel flame]

I dunno if it's easier than it used to be cause you could just have bb out all game before and it was pretty easy

[brittle crest]

it was maybe easier before because you could get warp charge from BB-ing anything

but it felt easy to do now with the new class re-work too if hte level is dense enough

[steel flame]

It's supposed to be continuous but weird shit happens in fatshark code

[shadow wigeon]

It certainly used to be continuous.....

[near wyvern]

Why I like Creeping Flames + Warp Siphon with Smite over EP. The ability to keep that smite going up s tiny bit longer is at times so essential.

https://youtu.be/AarOoPWZnx8

[orchid shadow]

It was also one of those penances that said Malice, but needed Heresy if I recall correctly.

Holy crap, it still does say Malice. They didn't fix that?

[hasty valve]

I got all that lol

But when they're EVERYWHERE a few hits in the back and its game over

[echo frigate]

Yeah

Psyker=glass no matter what

[near wyvern]

Not really

[brittle crest]

super random: thanks for all your work on the huge Psyker guide @near wyvern (and answering questions there)

[echo frigate]

Well unless you're blocking with that one talent

[shrewd quarry]

Anyone has a Good build for purgatus staff?

[west stream]

Nah, psyker has ways to build up toughness all the time

[echo frigate]

That's true

[near wyvern]

Kinetic Deflection, Empathic Evasion then if you play something like void and use mettle, soulstealer and quietitude you become quite sturdy

[west stream]

I do play it as glass cannon for gun psyker tho

[near wyvern]

Trauma spam with 2 stun shields / dome

[echo frigate]

True

[west stream]

I love me duelist and evading all day

I do die when I misjudge and run into a wall but such is life

[near wyvern]

Purgarus is a bit on the weaker side at the moment, you can see an example build in Atheneum

It's perfectly usable but there are more powerful builds to fill the horde clear role + more at the moment using other ranged weapons

[shrewd quarry]

Okay ty. I'm honestly not playing for meta or win just for fun

[echo frigate]

Tramua is good with the right blessings

[neon steppe]

Purg is great fun and still viable at all levels, ignore them lol. I recommend crit talents, brain burst, cdr aura, bubble shields, warp charges

[orchid shadow]

Are you trying to do the Warp Battery penance on Malice? It has to be on Heresy. Unless they fixed it, the wording is incorrect.

[neon steppe]

Gives infinite bubbles better than any other loadout, purg is great for oh shit moments, brain burst alllows you to still take down specials/elites/long range enemies

[ivory wharf]

what does scrier's gaze even do exactly?

[echo frigate]

Give crazy buffs at the cost of constant peril

[shrewd quarry]

It helped me do the warp battery penance

I exploded when I tried to actívate My force sword

Was fun

We Lost the run

[ivory wharf]

pretty good at keeping my peril down

[charred parcel]

I got "high scores" on both, but even with maximum rushing I never got beyond 214

[ivory wharf]

seems like the gaze is best paired with shards

[sonic whale]

Cat Ear Zealot?

[ivory wharf]

gaze seems like a high risk high reward sort of ability

[old citrus]

nah, just run a gun over a staff and youre gold. Then its just a dmg, crit, movement buff.

[shadow wigeon]

Just tried a Damnation hi intensity to see what warp charges are like if you're not really trying. You get a lot. I was goofing with revolver but staying at max charges was not very difficult.
As with pre-patch, it's a bit level dependent. Some levels have longer gaps that will make it hard to maintain. But in many ways it feels like there are more elites than pre-patch these days anyway.

[orchid shadow]

But you were doing it on Heresy, correct? You said you tried on Heresy a few times, but got yelled at so it sounded like you weren't doing it on the right difficulty.

[charred parcel]

I got to around 180 on Malice and then 214 on Heresy

[orchid shadow]

It won't work on Malice anyways, or it shouldn't if memory serves me correctly.

So you'll have to find a way to eke out another 45 seconds.

[cold oasis]

I'm pretty sure they changed the warp charges penances, now it shouldn't be continuous (like it was when the game came out)

[orchid shadow]

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't continuous, even at the start. Even after they made changes for warp charges to drop one by one, there's still too many lulls in combat where a charge can drop.

[cold oasis]

Oh at the start it was continuos, 100%

Had to redo that garbage so many times to finally finish, it was utter cancer

[long coyote]

@near wyvern Why creeping flames instead of scryers or dome on the autogun knife psyker?

[cold oasis]

but yeah, i think they changed it around the same time they changed warp charges to drop 1 by 1 if i'm not mistaken

[ivory wharf]

gaze with shards would that work well?

[sonic whale]

Does it require Elite kills to sustain?

[charred parcel]

elites and specials

[limpid lodge]

Trying to figure out a build for auric difficulty anyone have any recommendations such as equips and how to prioritize them. I’m also thinking of going with a smite build just because of its CC capability but if you guys know of a better build I’m all ears

[ivory wharf]

gaze along with shards and warp charges

yay or nay

[old citrus]

I use assail with my gaze build but I dont use them in conjuction with one another, thats dangerous.

[compact bluff]

scrier's gaze is bugged with warp siphon. you can still use it but you wont get any cooldown reduction from warp charges

[cold oasis]

can't go wrong with assail or smite really

[ivory wharf]

dangerous yes but effective

[steel flame]

Well actually warp siphon DOES work with scrier

[old citrus]

use assail when not in scriers for elites/specials etc etc, but use scriers with your melee/ranged weapons(not a staff imo)

[compact bluff]

did they fix it? last i checked it was still borked

[steel flame]

......If you start scrier's at 100% peril

[compact bluff]

... thanks fatshark. that actually is how it works. probably because while scrier's is up it just freezes the cooldown until its over which blocks warp siphon

[steel flame]

It's because they never changed quicken code to work with an ult which doesn't start cool down immediately

[compact bluff]

but hey it gives you one stack of scrier's so its a very optimal 1% damage boost : DDD

[charred parcel]

I might try Assail once or twice when I attempt the penance on Damnation, just need to learn to not nuke myself with them for once. Only thing that always gets me

[cold oasis]

The best suggestion i can give you for Assail (or psyker in general) is learn to quell with staves over your G, it's much faster

At worst, just run the vent, you can use it when you're mid explosion

[brittle crest]

i did warp battery, and all the BB-related penances at the same time just using a void staff build with BB, with kinetic flayer

i took the vent ult just in case, but basically never used it so i would hold on to the warp charges

the "BB" kills happened naturally via kinetic flayer or a group getting pinned down by the 10 gunners the game loves to spawn and popping out to get a BB lock and back into cover

[cold oasis]

honestly, the easiest way i found lately to do the warp charges is just play a game with purgatus without really using your F

you'll live at max charges forever

[brittle crest]

i tried that and stuff died too fast LOL, so i did void with the 4% chance on ally kill to get charges too

and it was basically always up

in the end, both probably work tbh

[cold oasis]

purgatus takes a while to get how it works, since it's pretty much the complete opposite of every other staff

[brittle crest]

playing purg with BB and charges made me feel like i was playing darktide 6mo ago hehe

i felt oddly outclassed

[cold oasis]

eh, the instant stagger on everything is still good in the end

[brittle crest]

yea fair

[floral thorn]

how knock many enemies off cliff at once

:(
fateshack give me cool hood pls

[brittle crest]

i think it was probably partially the group i was in

[floral thorn]

doesn't really seem like the ability has THAT much knockback

[brittle crest]

i think it had a gunlugger oggy and a plasma vet

[feral knoll]

To all the Psykers that join me when I’m a Vet. Thank you for letting me have all the ammo I could need

[brittle crest]

venting shriek, yell at stuff in that one bridge map, or at the end of smelter

[floral thorn]

ah shit smelter i didn't think of that

[prime wyvern]

is this worth grabbing from melk just for the blessings on psyker? like for gun builds or something? i havent played for too long so dont have blessing library

[floral thorn]

thats probably easy

[charred parcel]

I never really used the void staff because I was told by multiple people when I started that it'd be bad

[brittle crest]

yw qt, thanks for taking scavenger for us gun psykers :x

[brittle crest]

yea the finale is super easy cause it's a massive horde running by that middle area you can push off the side

[cold oasis]

get it for the infernus if you can spare the cash, the gun is pretty shit per se

Maybe it'll get buffed again

[feral knoll]

I always take scavenger : )

[floral thorn]

i've fallen into that hole enough times dodging thinking i'm hot shit i shoulda thought of that already

[cold oasis]

since Blessings aren't class related, you can use that infernus on any class, so that's nice at least

[prime wyvern]

oh i thought they were like locked to each class and weapon type wow

[floral thorn]

oh blessings are shared too? i.. did not look

[prime wyvern]

cool thanks, ya i dont really know what blessings work where yet but i wanna build up my options 🙂

[cold oasis]

i mean generally speaking buying any t4 good damage talent isn't a bad idea, since you can use most of them for 3 classes

[ivory wharf]

gotta get use to gaze

while shards with gaze is very potent its also a double edge sword

and yes certainly very dangerous

[cold oasis]

honestly, the damage you get from gaze is not worth missing out on better abilities imho

[rare arrow]

What's Psyker best boss damage options?

[hollow jolt]

chainsword with bloodletter I guess

maybe some funky laspistol build

[cold oasis]

just laspistol with dumdum+infernus

and that's true for all 3 classes i think

[ivory wharf]

idk my dude gaze combo with warp charges and that one ability modifier that increase damage depending on how many warp charges you have

and throw in shards

is pretty nasty

[spice veldt]

sure if you have finesse weapons, then you can take advantage of the +crit chance from gaze well

[cold oasis]

The thing is, while per assail charge you deal more charges, you throw less of em and you really do not need the damage i feel

[nimble bolt]

Hey guys quick question

With smite, which of these is better

[spice veldt]

but you have to keep in mind that you dump warp charges on ult use unless you're in a situation where you can get them immediately back, and with assail in particular, the efficiency of scrier's is even less because of the peril gen unless you don't bother quelling

[ivory wharf]

true

[compact bluff]

creeping flames is better. warp rupture kinda sucks big time

[cold oasis]

the dot is always better

[ivory wharf]

starting to wish using the ult didn't comsume warp charges

[nimble bolt]

dot?

[shadow quail]

Prefer the shield with smite myself

[cold oasis]

the stacks of soulbaze

[nimble bolt]

Just did my second game as a psyker since the patch, absolutely carried. Crazy how strong it is

Ah okay, will try with creeping flames instead thanks guys

[cerulean apex]

what curios should I run on psyker?

[sonic whale]

What are good blessings for the Dueling swords? I don't normally use them

[sonic whale]

If you have the earlier in the tree and other Soulblaze nodes then Creeping Flames if not take Warp Rupture

[sonic whale]

Normally I see toughness ones but I recomend at least one +1 wound

[potent echo]

Uncanny + whatever

[cerulean apex]

thx

[potent echo]

I take precog/shred/riposte in that order

[willow hazel]

Columbus + Gaze

[long wharf]

why are the "kill X scab/dreg with ranged/melee" contracts worth so little compared to other options?

[potent echo]

Alternatively soulblaze + uncanny, but that requires some setting up

[potent echo]

Depends if it's 750 or the 1000 version

[long wharf]

the 750 is only worth 230 Milkies

[tawny pebble]

m i l k i e s

[potent echo]

Mommy melk

[vague pasture]

and cookies

[long wharf]

he's called Sour Milk, his currency is Milkies

[potent echo]

I think the most optimal milk board is

1. 1000 scab
2. 1000 dreg
3. Plasteel
4. Diamantine
5. Monstrosities

None of that book nonsense

[rare arrow]

Does Assail hit weakspots?

[strong gulch]

It hits the head a lot. Sometimes it doesn't tho.

[feral knoll]

Holy shit is Gun Psyker actually kind of fun

[potent echo]

Need to aim slightly higher, but yea it's not super consistent

Welcome to the gunker life

[feral knoll]

I love shredding a mauler with a Laspistol

[strong gulch]

twins

[next mist]

wehehehehheheh

reject holding m1 smite and assail, embrace best class in the game

[feral knoll]

Psykers be like
“I cast lightning. I cast assail”

“I cast BULLET”

[willow hazel]

Gun staff best staff

[ivory wharf]

teammates cant protect a psyker mid smite

talk about useless

[potent echo]

That's not how it works

The smite psyker is supposed to protect the team

[delicate swallow]

Any psykers up for trying to get the Malleus Monstronum penance together?

[ivory wharf]

i mean yeah thats what i've being doing but getting hit in the back cause my teammates didn't kill all the enemies

or even watching my damn back

[fickle onyx]

Does blitz count as ranged? I wanted to do weekly and its annoying

[potent echo]

Ranged and melee counts the entire team

But yes blitz count

[fickle onyx]

Wait what

[ivory wharf]

not like i'm asking allot litterally just check behind the team every now and than

[fickle onyx]

You telling me weekly melee and ranged counts from whole team?

[potent echo]

Yea

[fickle onyx]

[potent echo]

So if your team is 4 psykers you generally gonna clear ranged very fast

[fickle onyx]

I am about to explode rn

[feral knoll]

I love turning the tiny flashlight pistol into a war crime with Scrier’s Gaze

[fickle onyx]

Aight thanks

[delicate swallow]

If anyone would like to attempt the Malleus Monstronum Penance join https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858682452561990

[ivory wharf]

is it to much to ask for a teammate to watch a psyker's back mid smite?

[potent echo]

Be the change you want to see on the team

Smite doesn't even need to aim you just be the one looking g back

[spice veldt]

it's pub matches, so hold zero expectations in your teammates

[tawny pebble]

I do the occasional 360 just to make sure I don't get smacked out of it

not that that halways helps

[cobalt bone]

Why does smite throw enemies Back when you stop it but doesnt when you go to 100%

[tawny pebble]

Hm

[cobalt bone]

The Basic ones

[tawny pebble]

does it do the same non-throwback if you get hit out of it?

[potent echo]

If you play rearguard your winrate will spike up really high

No one does that

Because it's so boring

[tawny pebble]

I just started doing it tbh

and i find it gratifying haha

When I wasn't pinging everything I was killing my team thought I was just fucking about though

[sinful peak]

is this a keeper?

and what perks do I swap in

[dense bramble]

Infested to Maniac/Carapace and apart from that shits sweet.

Radius isnt ideal but you should be hitting your shots anyway

[sinful peak]

no crit?

[dense bramble]

or crit chance yeah. Youve got nexus though and if you run the guaranteed crits +perk it should go crazy.

[sonic whale]

Thoughts on the staff on the left? Trying to roll for a better staff

[dense bramble]

Its fine. 60% cloud radius is acceptable

over 360 so blessings should roll high

[sonic whale]

I did get told the other day that 76% should be the minimal

[feral knoll]

When the horde can’t kill your because you can push faster than they swing but your team isn’t coming to help so you just awkwardly stand there like

[sonic whale]

I had one were an Ogryn and an Asail psyker just did a:

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-staring-funny-gif-13590085

[dense bramble]

It just means you need to wave it over the crowd more

+lower range slightly

[sonic whale]

While I was holding off a horde of poxwalkers and a mauler on damnation

[potent echo]

That's burn

[feral knoll]

Basically what happened

I could have survived long enough for them to come but they were running to the next room

[sonic whale]

I complained about it in the elevator ride and the Ogryn said "I pushed a way for us to move through, you should have just followed me." and I'm just like

[sonic whale]

Ohh ok I was confused why cloud radius was said before

[potent echo]

Cloud radius should be as high as possible as what you can afford

But 70% should be fine

Burn needs 76% to hit 15 stacks total

[keen pawn]

is Ilisi still considered the best of the force swords?

[potent echo]

I'll say no just because I hate illisi

[spice veldt]

death

[keen pawn]

why is ilisi considered better

[spice veldt]

idk about the illisi being the best, but it has a similar special to vet's power sword

[potent echo]

But also not even close

[lyric burrow]

i still find illisi is very good, it kinda does everything

[keen pawn]

from the force swords I tried, I like IV the best, but people keep saying ilisi and I don't know why

[lyric burrow]

big weakness is it doesnt abuse uncanny quite as well as deimos

[potent echo]

It has trouble dealing with 1mauler in a bunch of poxwalkers as stated earlier

[spice veldt]

if only the force swords had offensive push-attacks

gib 2h force swords with offensive push-attacks

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i do miss push attacks on illisi

[kind jay]

just give the force push actual damage

[lyric burrow]

Not that illisi needs to push all that often

Moreso now that we don't have infinite dodges tho

[ivory wharf]

just had some moronic douche just shoot near a daemon host in the last game i was in

[sinful peak]

best perks on illisi?

[ivory wharf]

to kill a "hound"

[sonic whale]

This staff is fucking great I just tried it on damnation and it's fucking hilarious

High Warp Resist is funny

[ivory wharf]

never a good idea to shoot near a daemon host

agree or disagree?

[sonic whale]

When I have my flamer or Smite build I switch to the staff and only use the non-AOE or jump attack

As triggering a Daemonhost is bad

[ivory wharf]

my thoughts exactly

make matter worse told the guy to let the hound let the hound come to the group next time

[sage glacier]

Illisi is the only sword you can spam the charge to get max peril pretty much instantly. If anyone would find that useful lol

[ivory wharf]

honestly the stupidity of some people in darktide really makes me question why they play the game at all

[sonic whale]

With the damage scaling with peril?

[sage glacier]

Ye

[potent echo]

Yea help keeps warp rider high

[sage glacier]

Quickest way to get max peril if im not mistaken

The other force swords you cant spam the charge

[potent echo]

Just run a 30% warp res staff like me

[sonic whale]

I remember one being a non-target lock when you Special Action and then swing

[spice veldt]

not as quickly, though you can always swap off to your blitz/ranged weapon to cancel the special and activate it again on the tohers

[dawn sphinx]

Just got a rather delicious sword. What else should I put on it? Should I change a blessing or change the trait to something better?

[keen pawn]

I want a force sword for deflector as a backup oh shit weapon. So should I go Deimos or Ilisi?

[feral knoll]

Illisi is good for fighting crowds. Lots of many enemy hitting moves. That’s why I like it at least

[vernal blaze]

i've used vet's power sword so much that i overheat with illisi every time i dont pay attention when horde clearing

[keen pawn]

so if I put deflector on it? is that good for hordes still? or do I need specific blessings to make ilisi work

[sonic whale]

It makes blocking cheaper on stamina and blocks ranged attacks OTHER then the Sniper

Sniper clowned on me first time I used it against him, thought I was such a smartass with it

[shell igloo]

I wouldn't say deflector does much to help with hordes. It's more for when you've got multiple shooters aggroed and the vet isn't doing their job

[spice veldt]

the block efficiency given by deflector only applies to ranged attacks fyi

[sonic whale]

No it says all attacks

[spice veldt]

the description is lying

[keen pawn]

oh yeah I just meant like do I nerf the weapon too hard by getting deflector

[sonic whale]

As why the hell would there be Efficiency as a base for ranged attacks when you can't block ranged attacks without it?

[cosmic sigil]

Moebian 6 propaganda

[spice veldt]

prob because ranged attacks have some stamina cost attached to them

and ogryn's shield being able to block them as well

[cosmic sigil]

It's a good choice, but you could also use uncanny on the deimos

[sonic whale]

Nah bro I refuse to believe that Cult of Admission propaganda

I trust Hadron

She may thing lowly of us but she still thinks of us

[shell igloo]

If you're going to run the sword with barrier, assail, or void--I'd say you don't need deflector. For purgatus though, I would recommend

[sonic whale]

Also best sword combo 😆

I forgot to post the rest of the images

[keen pawn]

i run with brain burst

[frank moat]

Pssst, it’s the Cult of Admonition

[rare arrow]

Is Overpowering Souls better than bio lodestone for assail? Seems like it

[sonic whale]

I forgot and tbh didn't know which way it was spelt 🙇‍♂️

[frank moat]

[sonic whale]

Brain be doing some bad things recently

I knew it was Admo-something-heretical

[cosmic sigil]

More lies!

[sonic whale]

Also trying to roll Defector IV is hard

Also I wish this could be on my Dueling sword as I'm going for mostly Krieg Drip 😭

[tawny pebble]

is warp nexus good/bad on purgatus?

[sonic whale]

I couldn't stand how the Krieg mask is of different metals for the collar that comes with it and that the tubes don't connect to the other tubes

Wow my spelling is really bad tonight, I know I had some drinks but god damn

[sonic whale]

That's the one that scales with peril right?

[tawny pebble]

correct

crit chance increase based on peril

[sonic whale]

I'd say yes IF paired with these two

[frank moat]

Wait the head collar and chest collar parts are different materials?

[tawny pebble]

i do run those lol

the quell speed is what saddens me

[sonic whale]

The mask's collar is a darker iron metal while the collar is more silver iron style

[tawny pebble]

damage i could deal without bc burn

[frank moat]

I thought it was bad enough that wearing the gasmask with the chest covered up part of the aquila engraving

[sonic whale]

Yeah I found that weird too

[keen pawn]

what should I put in the perks and which one should I replace

[sonic whale]

At least with this one it looks like it's connecting to the tube on the same plate@frank moat

[sonic whale]

I'd change the Uncanny strike for Blazing Sprit 3 or 4 if possible as it's a great one as long as you have those Soulblaze nodes

And Soulblaze from a crit on a poxwalker can help deal with hordes

Otherwise maybe Unstable Power if you like running high peril

[steel egret]

Thats the magic of premium cosmetic.

[sonic whale]

I spend too much money on this game's cosmetics I know, but it's still cheaper then my warhammer hobby

[frank moat]

Speaking of

I need more plastic crack

[sonic whale]

I was thinking of this headpiece but the whole "no gas mask" kinda makes me not run it as Krieg with the body

[long wharf]

I match up the metal visor with collar to the krieg body and pants

[sonic whale]

I actually think this one looks closer to the cloth colour so I would run this too

[frank moat]

I love how the hooded goggles look with the Krieg set but the colours on the Malleus Monstronum hood are just slightly wrong

[sonic whale]

The normal Krieg one? Or this one?

[vivid merlin]

does surge blessing do anything on trauma

[frank moat]

Boosts the pew pew bolts only

[sonic whale]

Also Fatshark is gonna have so much money off of me it will be ridiculous, but this is the only game in a long time that makes me feel like I'm having fun

[vivid merlin]

does it currently work on voidstrike alt fire?

[frank moat]

Yep

[sonic whale]

I might need to grab that blessing

[ionic sorrel]

Yeah, I've spent a good amount on cosmetics too. Gotta have a look for each load out, you know?

[sonic whale]

YES

The Krieg one currently is for my fire staff and fire build

The electric on i have that new black outfit with the goofy-ahh collar

My Normal and loved BB build I have the Rogue Trader jacket with the Red headgear covering the eyes with the same pattern as the coat

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-shaking-squidward-oh-no-shes-hot-shes-hot-oh-no-gif-26853489

[frank moat]

I wanna kitbash her so bad

[tawny pebble]

wow the stagger on purgatus is real

i was happy with surge staff because of the smite nodes applying to the staff but hoo boy

[shell igloo]

It's nice cause you can usually hold your own even with hordes up on you

[bold estuary]

is this stats important ?

[robust sierra]

is this from melk worth it?

would prob be better on illisi

[strong gulch]

Not worth it.

[strong gulch]

Unless you have a bunch of melt money and want a meme; or you don't have one built at all and way to save the plasteel. I'd skip otherwise.

It's not bad. Finesse is low and even with changes, it'd still me only good.

[crimson remnant]

all force swsords share blessings or i gotta farm for each one?

[strong gulch]

shared

[crimson remnant]

thanks

[smoky fractal]

potato are you the resident pskyer? you should make something like ogrynomicon lol

[kind jay]

we have the atheneum in the pins

[potent echo]

We have ogrynomicon at home

Just kidding the atheneum is great has all sorts of arcane knowledge

Like how wildfire works

[foggy breach]

melkman finally brought something useful

free warp flurry

"free"

[long wharf]

cash, ass, or grass - nothing is ever free

[foggy breach]

cash and ass i get but grass?

[long wharf]

old slang for weed

aka marijuana

[smoky fractal]

huh youd think grass was universal

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[foggy breach]

cash can buy grass so it's just a roundabout form of cash

[long wharf]

it's an old saying

came out of the 60s

[stuck bridge]

i am so sick of rolling terrifying barrage

holy fuck

[long wharf]

I paraphrased it - the original saying is "ass, cash, or grass - nobody rides for free"

relating to hitchhiking

[potent echo]

Can cash be free

Oh

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/F8lE9mF.png

like this cant be legal right

enough with barrage

[potent echo]

Level 2 warp oof

[sonic whale]

I caught her epping at the wrong moment

[feral knoll]

Just saw this. Deflector is nice for them yeah. It’s a nice QOL kind of blessing

[robust sierra]

ok thanks

[feral knoll]

Wanted to share my Gun Psyker build for some input. I’m still level 26 so I have some points eventually. But just wanted some input?

Still figuring it out

[sonic whale]

Is this a good duelling sword? And/or are any of the blessings on it good to take if not?

[foggy breach]

i wonder why ragers are the only ones who do a lil dance when i zap them

[restive slate]

They like to get jiggy with it

[waxen mortar]

With the changes that came about recently. Any new builds to be aware of?

[placid crypt]

Besides surge staff bug and voidstrike, I've had a lot of luck using purg with brain rupture and empowered pysionics. Think people sleep on brain rupture now (which, understandable)

Gun psyker is a lot more viable

[long wharf]

nobody is "sleeping" on BB

it's not viable as a primary weapon

it has niche utility

in a lot of cases, especially if enemies are in range of other things, it's the slowest way to kill something

[placid crypt]

Base BB, sure, but there's still a lot of utility that can round out a build with empowered pysionics and ult cast speed for it

Wasn't suggesting someone primary BB, in the same way you wouldn't primary nades on a Vet

[waxen mortar]

Bet

I noticed my peril shot up substantially faster now. Did they mess with the peril generation or something?

I didn't read the patch

[ebon monolith]

Does anyone have a good lightning build?

I want to become Palpatine

[atomic zephyr]

got this as a drop, sucks the shredder is the dump

[waxen mortar]

Step 1. Make a child in a questionable manor.
Step 2. Become the Senate
Step 3. ???
Step 4. Profit

[smoky fractal]

i never really care for shredder as a stat because it kills whatever you shred but gets hard stopped by carapace anyway which is what the weps weakness is

which is why i went looking for another wep

[atomic zephyr]

i'm going to test it and see it deals enough dmg

[smoky fractal]

dunno if youre gonna have the same experince as me cause i used the chain weapons over on my zealot

[atomic zephyr]

the dmg definitely is about 100 dmg less per swing compared to another shreddr i have that is 79

[severe folio]

i use warp siph and the shriek instead so that whenever shriek happen the bb get faster

been getting back into the pace, aka rely less on assail

its def not the same but at least it feels different

at least until i can pick prescience with venting shriek

(it will happen one way or another)

[severe folio]

steal the blessing

[atomic zephyr]

i stole the wrath blessing, i already have another t4 bloodletter on another chainsword

this is my main chainsword

[severe folio]

problem is when you want to use BB it often has to be treated as primary for a while, you dont really pull out bb mid fight while the horde encroaching but you would be using it for a while when theres a pack of gunners with a reaper between them

[severe folio]

i have to consult the codex to see what work on a psyker chainsword

[atomic zephyr]

i would like to build a bloodthirsty/bloodletter one, but that wouldn't do much for hordes.

[hardy coral]

Deathspitter or Fire Frenzy? Deathspitter at least for me would be better for mid to long range which would be helpful but Fire Frenzy slaps at close range but that's only about 8m or so.

[severe folio]

both are important

would have both on a weapon

[atomic zephyr]

wrath is better than the other cleave blessings imo, the savage sweep doesn't help much, too slow and you end up taking hits, i've seen others say the same

[severe folio]

i mean, im not saying savage sweep is better

[hardy coral]

i can only choose one since Hit & Run is doodoo.

[flat moat]

why do people run the surge staff and smite? wouldnt that be redundant?

[severe folio]

why would it be redundant

[flat moat]

both zap

[severe folio]

whats deathsplitter again, on kill right ?

[severe folio]

thats where their similarity end

smite spread to a larger amount of enemies, stun everything except for monstrosity

but at relatively close range

[hardy coral]

i think it is, yeah, i just entered training area to test.

[potent echo]

One is aoe, one is single target

[severe folio]

surge spread to at most 1 extra enemy

but can strike at much further range than smite, and deals 10000 time more than smite

[potent echo]

But both eat so much peril it's hard to run both

[severe folio]

need a zappy nelee

melee

a stun baton

[severe folio]

fire frenzy then

[bitter escarp]

arbites shock maul

[meager isle]

Ive only got one re-roll left on this thing... I'm thinking replace the Infested perk with Flak? Or Maniac?

[potent echo]

They both work only up to around 8m

[severe folio]

you can pick between maniac or carapace

[potent echo]

Either really, flak lets you 1 shot scab gunners

[bitter escarp]

though on higher settings issa power weapon

[potent echo]

Maniac will mainly be for flamers

Although I don't (think) you can one shot flamers even with maniac

Best is to try in psyk, or consult the guide

[meager isle]

ive only just now moved up into Heresy... trying not to be "that guy" who jumps into the higher difficulties without building a solid skill set and having some equipment. So... I'm leaning toward Flak but sometimes I get into these games and no one seems to be geared to handle Maulers and the like.

[bitter escarp]

on a crit with 6 wc you can

[severe folio]

the guide said pretty much what is already said

[potent echo]

The guide doesn't really have a breakpoint guide

Too many stupid variables

Warp rider.. DD.. warpsiphon

And also the odd 5% ranged damage nodes

[bitter escarp]

on the upside, warp rider always provides 10% at minimum

so that's a good basis for conservative estimates

[potent echo]

True

But also surge charges so fast, for flamers I like to do 2 fast zaps

[bitter escarp]

been finding that the enhanced psionics bug isn't really worth cheesing

[potent echo]

Most guides are geared towards damnation breakpoints, so I wouldn't worry too much about perks in heresy

[bitter escarp]

every time I see a rando psyker explode themselvs from perils

odds are good that they're relying on that

perils management goes to shit

[meager isle]

i know about the bug but I've been sticking with warp siphon... it just feels more consistent for me

[potent echo]

At the end of the day it's still a surge, you can't fight a real 10 rager plus bruisers patrol with it

Unless you get the jump on them and creeping flames and all that jazz

[bitter escarp]

yeah been trying to roll a decent catachan sword to see if it helps

the mk IV duelling sword does work but the aggro capacity isn't super high if you don't have a lot of space

[tough lake]

Buy or no buy

[potent echo]

Catachan spam parry actually deals with unlimited ragers lmao

[bitter escarp]

buy

[long wharf]

"aggro capacity"?

[bitter escarp]

not a god roll but plenty decent

[bitter escarp]

ability to handle pressure

[long wharf]

ah

[potent echo]

Buy for sure, even if just to extract blessings

[long wharf]

I only pull out my dueling sword when it's time to stab heavy things in the face

it's really not for crowds

[potent echo]

If you are forced to stand still duellies can't handle density

[bitter escarp]

I found one with rampage, which makes it a pretty decent crowd weapon

but yeah it doesn't like being static

[potent echo]

Which is why it's usually paired with a crazy aoe staff like trauma or purg or maybe void

[bitter escarp]

you can one tap mook heads with rampage 3, though for bruisers the heavies are required for reasonable ttk

[potent echo]

I almost never press lights on them since the heavy comes out so fast

Unless it's a horde and I don't have a staff for some reason

[bitter escarp]

if you find one with rampage give it a go on crowds

but ofc rampage is bugged now so that may not persist down the line

[potent echo]

Yea I'm still trying out melees on my gunker build

Yea idk if the oneshot light rampage will stay

[bitter escarp]

the threshold for one weak spot kills for mooks isn't super high though

[potent echo]

Dclaw is nice but lacks mobility, axes are okay I guess

[potent echo]

Yea with some DD stacks going it's pretty easy to fight hordes with a duel, and I don't even have rampage on it

[bitter escarp]

I can hit that on unarmoured with 6 wc

[severe folio]

dclaw let you solo daemonhost

[potent echo]

I never thought about that

Interesting

[severe folio]

a zealot friend of mine has been actively engaging with daemonhost because she just learnt how to parry

we let it happen because

it die

[bitter escarp]

yeah for sure, I noticed DD baits me into doing stupid shit but when I can control that urge

[potent echo]

Doesn't that take forever though

[bitter escarp]

it's a good ocmbo

[severe folio]

you will be surprise to know

[potent echo]

Compare to a silent tap with a TH

[severe folio]

it takes little more than a minute

its not faster than Th

but its sure is better

no setup

no sacrifice

just parry

[bitter escarp]

I mean, if the DH isn't sabotaging the run, I don't see why not

you shit, you clean it up

[smoky fractal]

god the random zealots in my games with the stealth th set up

[bitter escarp]

issue is when people wake it and can't deal with it

[severe folio]

one less stress on the battle field

[potent echo]

Yea

Stealth TH got nerfed tho abit sad

[severe folio]

it seem like when she is running we dont have to worry about dh

[smoky fractal]

they can def 1 shot a boss but they cant play for shit

[severe folio]

because we know it will did

die

[potent echo]

I mean it's a TH, ever tried using one of those

Bleegh

[severe folio]

the TH feels awkward to use

but that maybe because i just use too many light melee

[smoky fractal]

im a zealot main it takes know how

[bitter escarp]

had a slaughterer/headtaker one back before slaughterer got nerfed

[severe folio]

can’t understand the slow heavy

[potent echo]

The no dodge afterglow window is the worst

[bitter escarp]

even then it was bleeeh

[smoky fractal]

you cant just slap together a 1 shot build and think its going to be okay

[potent echo]

You slam your thunderclap then a trapper nets you and you can do NOTHING

[bitter escarp]

time to sneak a quick cig in that window

[potent echo]

Terrible

[severe folio]

also parrying a horde as dclaw is pretty scary

[bitter escarp]

between TH and knife I gotta wonder which makes you work harder to deal with mook hordes

[smoky fractal]

this dude was using an iron helm and was using overheads for horde clear

[bitter escarp]

ayo

actual ogryn play

[potent echo]

No brain just spam heavies

[tawny pebble]

[potent echo]

Cancel combos? What are those

[bitter escarp]

also combos in general

[potent echo]

TH simple light heavy loop is enough

[bitter escarp]

idk I like when a weapon is a bit janky with the combos and you gotta wring its neck a bit to get the optimal flow

[smoky fractal]

if you get some ogryn experince it clicks

[potent echo]

Yea have you tried the new crusher

It's so sick

[honest robin]

people like the illisi 5 force sword right? is shred a BIS for that

[severe folio]

that explain it, i fukin hate orgyns

[smoky fractal]

the new crusher is alright, special + light spam isnt the only option anymore

[honest robin]

melk is selling this which is so sad

[severe folio]

take the blessings

[bitter escarp]

merc on halberd days

light or heavy spam feels bleh

[shut shoal]

can anybody say if touch the void 3 heresy or damnation level missions? trying to get all psyker penances done before lvl 30 and thats the only one im owrried about

[severe folio]

what ?

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1AL0pGyJSlXwEp/spok?invite=cr-MSxwR1gsMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

Push attack, light, heavy

I love it

[severe folio]

well what does the penance said

[shut shoal]

its a tiered penance so i cant see lvl3 yet, stressing trying to figure out which missions i have not done

[smoky fractal]

i run a bolter i hate bulwarks lol

[potent echo]

New reworked halberd was pretty fun

[severe folio]

why not check the penance list

it should show what you havent done

or how to do them

or where to do them

and your progres on them

[potent echo]

If you check your mission board, you can see which mission you haven't clear yet(?)

[bitter escarp]

yeah it was, idk what it is about darktide melee but it's still a notch or two worse than vermintide 2

[spark swallow]

kinda says clearly what to do

[potent echo]

Just give me bretsword, bretsword is the best melee in vt2 don't @ me

Triple overhead combo loops?

[bitter escarp]

for sure

[potent echo]

Block frames while charging heavy?

What a weapon

[bitter escarp]

ogryn mk 4 cleaver closest to scratching that itch for now

[smoky fractal]

sounds like the achyls caxe if you want that

[bitter escarp]

downside is when you main bret sword and switch to anyting else

and then you get fucked by muscle memory trying to heavy under pressure

[potent echo]

Mace and sword resident sleeper weapon

[shut shoal]

i'll just start up damnations in order then, should make it before 30 without the qp bonus

[potent echo]

Just pushattack heavy all day

[bitter escarp]

did they change the achlys? it felt the same when I tested it for a laugh

[smoky fractal]

nah back before SoT nerf was where it was at

[bitter escarp]

mace and sword on foot knight was kinda lit

[smoky fractal]

1 eruption? kill 20 specials

[bitter escarp]

SotT bot was cracked

bots place templates way better than humans

[severe folio]

can’t understand what youre tryna do

[bitter escarp]

fuckin' anti gutter runner phalanx CIWS

zapping rats midleap

[potent echo]

Lmao

[shut shoal]

trying to get every pennance before hitting trust level 30 as a challenge

[severe folio]

oh

are you

solo playing

[smoky fractal]

oof good luck with that

[severe folio]

please tell me you are doing this solo

[potent echo]

Check the mission board, if you see some symbols underneath the picture, means you completed it before

[shut shoal]

queued for the bb monstosity otherwise solo yeah

[bitter escarp]

that's for account AFAIK

[severe folio]

okay

because if you carry that under level ass in damnation

[bitter escarp]

so potentially not helpful if this isn't first character

[potent echo]

Yea but if its their first character maybe 🤔

[bitter escarp]

but worth checking regardless

[severe folio]

im going to take the milk in your fridge and turn them into yogart

[smoky fractal]

i really dont like these underleveled console players in my games

[bitter escarp]

yea, pick one

[smoky fractal]

see them take 30 sec to turn around

lmao

[severe folio]

should leave them to death

die die die

[smoky fractal]

cant mouse flick? sucks for you lol

[bitter escarp]

IME console players are way more uncoachable too

[potent echo]

Controller is fine
Why does no one check behind team 😠

[severe folio]

low game sens

[bitter escarp]

you say one thing and then they mald for half the mission

[severe folio]

no game sense

[smoky fractal]

mouse flick > control stick in any intense situation

[bitter escarp]

"yo bro if you get netted, tagging the trapper is super helpful"

[severe folio]

encourage kicking console players

[potent echo]

Im joking lol there were people here weeks ago saying controller was perfectly fine for DT

[shut shoal]

jokes on you i ran damn without problem last level

[bitter escarp]

if you're already good yeah

[severe folio]

define fine

[bitter escarp]

bit generous to describe the overall player pop with that, let alone console

[smoky fractal]

keyword is fine

[potent echo]

Patch 13 base damnation is totally fine

They overnerfed the spawns

[severe folio]

fine comes in many perspective

[potent echo]

Hi int damn is the new baseline difficulty

Base damnation the map is so empty lmao

[severe folio]

i only know my gameplay were in fact not fine after i install the scoreboard

[bitter escarp]

yeah heavy sword zealot feels like it barely gets going in a horde

[severe folio]

to know that i have not been carrying my weight

[bitter escarp]

need high intensity to feel like you're hitting shit

[shut shoal]

3 downs no deaths

[severe folio]

who down ?

your ally ?

why do they go down

[smoky fractal]

im not a fan of the scoreboard, im already a salt mine with people in games. scoreboard will just make me type during a horde

and green circle ptsd

[potent echo]

It's fine tbh, the people carrying get to play more darktide

[bitter escarp]

I installed one of the mods for scoreboard which takes out the silly sub scores

[shut shoal]

me twice ally once

[severe folio]

not really because death is nore prevalent

[severe folio]

you are not fine

[bitter escarp]

just gives a total report of damage and kills broken down by type

I think the "score" beyond raw metrics on the scoreboard contributes to a fair bit of toxicity

[potent echo]

Yea I use that too, also lists weapons

[bitter escarp]

and AFAIK the score weighting is entirely arbitrary

[potent echo]

I mean if you see yourself top dps in every category something is wrong, but yes the score itself is meaningless

[severe folio]

i just need to know how much i been killing compare to other people, and how much plasteel everyone collected