psyker-class

[vestal fulcrum]

Carapace perk is not ideal, but it might do something

Whereas WS perk is just outright bad, most of the time

[wet belfry]

Whenever i shall go to the local supermarket i make sure to bring a shovel for the increased mobility.

[ruby narwhal]

Tah 🙂

Uncanny?

[vestal fulcrum]

Uncanny Strike

[wet belfry]

6 dodges makes the crab walking also very viable for when stamina runs out.

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s a blessing

[glossy ember]

my 25% mobility illisi still gets 5 dodges lol

[ruby narwhal]

damn don't have it >.<

[vestal fulcrum]

Please do show

I’m curious why this is the case

[plucky flax]

I want my floor stare infinite crab walk back.

[ruby narwhal]

got blazing spirit 4 if that's any use?

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not good on Deimos, and even on Illissi it’s not great

[vestal fulcrum]

What about Unstable Power?

[ruby narwhal]

got that at 3

[vestal fulcrum]

Do get Uncanny whenever you can though, it’s a great blessing for the Force swords at the moment

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s probably good enough

[ruby narwhal]

I'll use it till i find uncanny then

[glossy ember]

not home lemme see if i can find the screens

[wet belfry]

One day blazing spirit will be good on the force sword

When scriers gaze actually does something 💀

[plucky flax]

It's good if you want to meme.

Blazing spirit shred or riposte.

[vagrant frigate]

i run scrier

[wet belfry]

Blazing spirit + uncanny

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message

[wet belfry]

Make the flames that spread ignore armor.

[plucky flax]

Aye then you gotta run scrier for crit rate.

[ruby narwhal]

does blazing work with the talent that spreads warpflame?

[plucky flax]

Gazer.

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s very odd indeed

50.5 modifier value is usually the breakpoint for having the max amount of effective dodges

[idle bay]

There should be a mode thta adds Dr. Zoidberg "Woob woob woob woob" scream when you do more that 3 dodges in row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rnw0D2AdYU

[glossy ember]

scrier's

[plucky flax]

Any zealot chanter?

I find it sucks now without the monster cc with every pulse.

[glossy ember]

idk man

[grave zephyr]

Auric Maelstorm - 14m
Any tip on how to improve my dmg and resistences? Psyker / Most Left

[karmic fractal]

assail in maelstrom

[iron flame]

man ... wish the extra cohency and quell spell position is swapped

[grave zephyr]

Well, i actually ran it with brain rupture and didn't even use it once.

So i just switched ^^

[still hearth]

When are we going to get this part flattened out

[karmic fractal]

you use brain rapture with the passive procs on melee

[still hearth]

So that Psyker tree works like other trees

[karmic fractal]

or to effectively snipe snipers across the map

don't have to use BR actively much

[wet belfry]

No perilous combustion, no creeping flames.

[grave zephyr]

While assail can be good for bosses/gunners

[karmic fractal]

personally, a huge surge/smite fan

even just for the cc

not a huge fan of assail because it numbs my senses

[grave zephyr]

Tell me your time buddy

[wet belfry]

Kinetic presence is also a very weak aura for the psyker

[rose dagger]

Small chance to quell a bit on kill over perilous combustion is interesting choice

[still hearth]

Or if you want to use the EP bug you can go

[wet belfry]

Get rid of battle meditation, warp expenditure. Pick up creeping flames, perilous combustion

[karmic fractal]

ahh yes Hadrussy... sprint efficiency!
https://i.imgur.com/TGRBoLg.png

[wet belfry]

Swap kinetic presence for seer’s presence

[rose dagger]

Yea I was gonna question toughness on crit too

[still hearth]

The movespeed is nice

[umbral helm]

sprint efficiency for that run and gun meta, clearly

[still hearth]

Sometimes

[wet belfry]

Its a surge so its not to bad

[plucky flax]

If you have a crit weapon you can replace soulstealer with toughness on crit.

[idle bay]

My primary build. For Surge staff and chill.

[still hearth]

Though I wouldn't go EP and Surge if you want to use the EP bug abuse

Not that it matters since I don't use my blitz if I do that route

Just stack a lot of nodes

[still hearth]

No perilous combustion 0/10

And crit aura

-10/10

[karmic fractal]

Hadrussy blessed me!
https://i.imgur.com/nlZoPJx.png

Not totally bricked

[rose dagger]

Rarely see a surge build with such integrity these days

Hate that exploit shet

Way too strong

[wet belfry]

7/10 nearly has a house at the end of the tree but is missing 1 point

[still hearth]

It's not even strong

Imagine a single target weapon doing more DPS than AoE

For once

[glossy ember]

run and gun for maximum sprinting memes

[karmic fractal]

[glossy ember]

holy

[idle bay]

I just like those extra toughness nodes. Otherwise it would be Soulfire nodes

[karmic fractal]

should I farm some reddit karma with that?

[bleak tulip]

oh nice its clamped really weirdly

well then carry on everyone

mobility still kinda dump on FS

[wet belfry]

In the current housing market it is important for you to secure a house within your psykers talent tree.

[idle bay]

I love to save some FPS for team mates by not spreading soulfire

[glossy ember]

switch the infested to something else first

crit or carapace or maniac

i went carapace

[rose dagger]

Feel like any psyker that played before the overhaul will have little issue with toughness since psyker actually used to a struggle a bit with toughness

[karmic fractal]

2 steps ahead of you! 😛
https://i.imgur.com/w2UDelg.png

[rose dagger]

Don't really need to spam illisi special and vent anymore

[wet belfry]

Most of tertiums housing is quite poor and in low supply. This leads to rampant overcrowding within the hive city.

[rose dagger]

Not very often anyway

[umbral helm]

usually toughness management in my experience came down to "we're not handling this swarm properly" rather than durability, but because we were one of the squishier classes we tended to feel the effects of those scenarios first

[glossy ember]

congrats on your godroll. mine's similar (77 dmg 78 charge 77 crit 80 quell 60 warp) with same blessing perks, very interested in seeing if that extra 3 point in damage lets you get to higher breakpoints i can't reach

[karmic fractal]

Confirmed Streamer Luck!

[karmic fractal]

80% quell speed is.... well... uuuuseful... I guess?

[plucky flax]

Nearly 550.

[idle bay]

You can lit a cigarette of that Staff. Thing is HOT!

[glossy ember]

80% quell is fantastic for me

i run scrier so i feel like i need 80% quell lol

[wet belfry]

Its bad, sell it to me.

Ill make sure its disposed of properly.

[vagrant frigate]

scrier and dd are meta

[karmic fractal]

dd without guns

[glossy ember]

i play scrier+warp siphon

cant hit weakpoints with surge rmb

[karmic fractal]

can't go back to Warp Siphon since the talent rework

it's simply not the same anymore

[vagrant frigate]

use gun

[bleak tulip]

it works fine without guns

[glossy ember]

i wanna zap zap

[vagrant frigate]

use gun

[bleak tulip]

gun cringe

[glossy ember]

strong zap zap

[plucky flax]

It quells.

[bleak tulip]

the only gun I'd use on pyker would be plasma

[umbral helm]

I got curious and was running surge last night with DD, it's an interesting gameplay loop, did what it needed to

[karmic fractal]

I'll only play a gunker if they give me a GLÖRIÖÜS John Boltor on my spaghetti arm Psyker

[bleak tulip]

I remember when psyker got shotguns

[karmic fractal]

John Boltor+ the teased 2h Force Sword

[umbral helm]

I ran shredder autopistol for a while on a gun psyker setup. get in there and fill them with cringe 9mm

[karmic fractal]

obviously

[vagrant frigate]

use gun

poke
shoot
screech
repeat

[karmic fractal]

yeah we got it @vagrant frigate

[idle bay]

Can we bribe Fatshark to give Plasma Gun to Psykers?

[karmic fractal]

screech+plasma gun?

Just be a knockbacky-boi

[umbral helm]

built a vraks recently, the single shot one, ended up liking it quite a bit

[karmic fractal]

vraks VII?

[umbral helm]

probably. I just know one fires a single shot and the other is a burst of 2 I think

[bleak tulip]

cant stand the VII's weird sway on recoil that makes you just fuckin miss

that or I always get fucked by hitreg and thats the only weapon it happens to me with

[glossy ember]

don't you lose a lot from not hitting weak points? what did the build even look like

[vagrant frigate]

they need to buff the rapier

[ashen trellis]

is "power up" penance bugged? stuck on 0/100 for me

[glossy ember]

also i feel the loss in warp siphon from -peril gen would be terrible

[grave zephyr]

Why does empowered psyonics increase the surge staff secondary attack dmg?

[umbral helm]

probably, but I wasn't building it to be super optimal, I just wanted to see what it was like. it killed, team filled in the gaps

[vagrant frigate]

i love booping large mammals

make me happy

[bleak tulip]

probably spaghetti code

[umbral helm]

also, I wasn't always RMB'ing to kill, I don't regardless. sometimes you gotta pepper them with the LMB

[bleak tulip]

assumption is that it counts as the same type of attack

so it gets some of the benefits

[glossy ember]

fair

[iron flame]

How is this tree for penance hunting with BB ?

[bleak tulip]

the giganerds probably could say but they likely dont wanna promote bugged builds that make the game not fun to play

[vagrant frigate]

i use a bugged build

bugged in my favor and against my favor

[bleak tulip]

congratulations

I guess in some way we all do

[vagrant frigate]

@karmic fractal use gun

[umbral helm]

I just use whatever I'm in the mood for, which changes often

[glossy ember]

[bleak tulip]

take soulstealer

also wildfire is kinda bad

I guess kinetic flayer is usable if youre specifically going for BB penances but generally its also underwhelming

[iron flame]

Hmm yea it is T_T

[umbral helm]

I throw it on some setups for the hell of it sometimes

[iron flame]

By the way ... the wording on Wrap kill ... does staffs attacks count ?

[bleak tulip]

yes

[iron flame]

Oh damn ... i better grab that then

Headshot machine with the voidstrike

[idle bay]

How could anyone play with such POV it's like you are turned from human into herbivore with eyes on the side of the head and no forward facing vision

[vagrant frigate]

thats nothing

[bleak tulip]

if you play void you might also want to consider taking true aim in the bottom right before the keystone

[vagrant frigate]

@idle bay u dont play 140fov?

[bleak tulip]

turn it to 180 coward

[vagrant frigate]

the last clip is sped

[iron flame]

God damn, you are just oneshotting those mauler like it is nothing

[vagrant frigate]

thats without handcannon

i run that now so i have perma rending :X

[iron flame]

Me no brain or aiming skills

[idle bay]

I'm using boring default FOV settings

[iron flame]

I just go emperor palp build

Except right now since I thought I go penace hunting

Crying in all my elite/specialists kills get stolen

I hope they rework it

[bleak tulip]

this is basically just mk4 being silly

doesnt even even have scriers stacks for most of this

also extra lmao for never actually using the gun

this is just how zealot players play melee psyker because psyker has one of the best melee weapons in the game right now

[vagrant frigate]

nah thats when i just started it

rev is main now

you can whip it out in 1ms and just 1tap an elite

then go back to sword

[bleak tulip]

which is also how people play zealot right now

[vagrant frigate]

which is how i play psyker :D

[velvet hull]

How does one rate my staff?

[vagrant frigate]

do u know apollis

[vagrant frigate]

the zealot

he my boy

[bleak tulip]

thats certainly a staff

[iron flame]

God damn ... how are you all getting the tier 4 blessing ? My shitty staffs is like tier 2 and stuffs

[bleak tulip]

one of the staves of all time

roll on highe base rating weapons

[vagrant frigate]

upgrade it urself

[iron flame]

Huh ? we can upgrade them ?

[velvet hull]

yup

[bleak tulip]

hadron

[velvet hull]

refine

[iron flame]

Wow hadron holding out on me

[wind halo]

Hadron gonna destroy your staff

[velvet hull]

In a good or bad way?

[kind jay]

surge has like 5 blessings total it's super easy to farm 4s

[iron flame]

Ok ... i am in like Refine screen soo how do i upgrade the blessing ?

[bleak tulip]

you take blessings from other weapons which destroys the weapon but lets you put it on others

you dont directly upgrade anything

pretty sure you just misunderstood that they meant

[iron flame]

Ahh ok

[bleak tulip]

basically take high base rating weapons, consecrate em and hope you get a tier IV

[iron flame]

I thought it is some kind of upgrades like if i refine warp nexus into tier 4 or something

That is my surging staff for my main build while i am using a shitty voidstrike staff for penance farming

[plucky flax]

He lives in a fish bowl.

[onyx sentinel]

surge staff still broken?

[viscid matrix]

yes, but might as well use it, gonna be a while before its touched

or you can use the absurdly strong void or assail

[bleak tulip]

what is it with this "itll never get fixed" attitude

you can bet that shit is on the chopping block next patch

[viscid matrix]

not that itll never get fixed, it will just take a lot of time FS is very slow to nerf things

[bleak tulip]

okay but its a bugfix, not a nerf

[viscid matrix]

its been in since the launch of the class update last month, we just didnt notice it

[bleak tulip]

they fixed a bunch of unintended shit from 13

yeah because its effect only became apparent with 14

because lmao +35% of "bad" is still bad

[viscid matrix]

psyker was barely touched

[bleak tulip]

yeah and?

again youre talking nerfs being insufficient

not bugfixes

[viscid matrix]

Void got slightly downtuned, still op and vastly stronger than everything else
Assail got a modification, still op

[bleak tulip]

yeah and I think most people agree with that so what's your point

[viscid matrix]

i think it will either be early decemebr or january before they touch it

[bleak tulip]

you're conflating balancing with bugfixing, I wouldnt be surprised if there will be a patch this year

and tbh I dont even know if either assail or void need more nerfs, its more that the other staves fell behind at this point

void is pretty comparable to plasma

its just that optimized builds still go very hard

because surge is comical

[glossy ember]

damn good

[bleak tulip]

and probably shouldnt have ever existed

that blessing was theoreically insane at day 1

[glossy ember]

wym

i love surge

[bleak tulip]

we just didnt have ways to basically guarantee crits

also void base damage was bad

void still fundamentally struggles with the same things it always struggled with, just much less

as in it actually does damage to crushers now

also I wouldnt necessarily say its "vastly" better than trauma, its just more versatile

[glossy ember]

what if they buffed surge staff so that you could aim at weakpoints with it,

[bleak tulip]

trauma still shits on mixed hordes within range and deals with crusher hordes way better

[viscid matrix]

that would be great

[glossy ember]

it'd be nice if you could aim to either lock body or lock head

rather than just throwing lightning in a general direction

[bleak tulip]

they should make it either do CC better again or buff its damage to not be pretty meaningless

current design is some weird middle thing that isnt really very good at either

dont think weak spot aiming is really the solution or point

[wet belfry]

The class update nerfed trauma

[glossy ember]

i want em to amp up the carapace damage on surge

[wet belfry]

Very sad

[clear heath]

it kinda ccs fine if you take smite for the +1 chain
weird thing to balance around though since i think that's a bug

[bleak tulip]

trauma is still very competetive though idk

[glossy ember]

this should be native imo

[clear heath]

i think 3 targets should just be baseline

[bleak tulip]

idk in extreme scenarios it feels pretty limp imo

that or its semi natural pairing with smite is held back by smite doing no damage

[glossy ember]

but yea it'd be nice to have consistant 2 shots on crushers

[bleak tulip]

so you're back to relying on melee for hordes

[clear heath]

or relying on soulblaze for hordes

[bleak tulip]

idk maybe I just never fell in love with illisi enough to respect surge

[wet belfry]

Surge shouldnt two shot crushers

[bleak tulip]

well yeah

[wet belfry]

Thats just silly

[bleak tulip]

but it does need to do more than it does

[glossy ember]

It should when I stack up 6 warp siphons and 30 stacks of scriers

it doesn't

even with a double crit

[clear heath]

I pretty much always do top damage on surge without ep but it's mainly because of how busted soulblaze talents are.
it only really takes 1-2 elite kill and an F to wipe an entire room and surge 1 shots gunners so...

[bleak tulip]

I mean 24% damage isnt as much as warp charge enjoyers really wish it was

[clear heath]

when you only really need 1 kill for horde clear and the thing kills 1 target quickly, it works out

[bleak tulip]

not when there is blessings that do way more

[bleak tulip]

pretty true

[glossy ember]

okay i agree with not doing a 2 shot on crushers with only 6 warp stacks

a consistant 3 shot is fine

but with scrier it should 2 shot

[bleak tulip]

I just wouldnt wanna rely on creeping to be my main hordeclear is the thing

[glossy ember]

or at least two crits

or one crit one normal

[clear heath]

I like dot builds so i'm happy enough with it

i wouldn't mind second and third target taking more damage from surge though

[bleak tulip]

unpopular opnion: idk what the fuck the point of scriers is besides giving literally any reason for gunker to exist

[clear heath]

it's like weirdly not any better when there's exactly 2 targets, which is odd for a weapon that specifically hits 2

[bleak tulip]

its not something I would ever use on staves because you cant really get max stacks with it while using your staff

[crimson remnant]

Is melee psyker really good or meme?

[bleak tulip]

you have to passive quell in some way

[bleak tulip]

with mk4 its really really good

[clear heath]

i'm pretty sure gunker actually is the point

[bleak tulip]

like "three shot crushers" type good

[viscid matrix]

really good if you have a team who can deal with the long range targets while you get into melee

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[glossy ember]

gets surge to 2 shot maulers/maniac rager without maniac as perk breakpoints, and lots of crit = more ranged immunity

[bleak tulip]

melee psyker is basically just gunker for zealot players

go fast eat ass

might as well bring a gun

its like the psyker entry drug for people who were too cool for psyker before

[iron flame]

Hmm wonder if Brain burst count as headshots for true aim

[bleak tulip]

yeah#

in fact just charging it to like 40-50% counts as it already

(this was another bug fix because before you could charge true aim by just spamming it on people before 14)

[hollow jolt]

A shame you can't get the fast charge of brain burst

I would pay a talent for faster Brain Rulture 😔

[bleak tulip]

at this point I am convinced FS doesnt want BB to be good

"its too slow" has basically been consensus here since the game came out

[iron flame]

T_T yea ... feels like it is just one of those weaker build that they will refuse to fix like some of the VT's subclass

[hollow jolt]

Like brain rupture with brain burst's cast time would be pretty good

[bleak tulip]

I cant tell if its a relic of the pre beta where, since everyone was new, everyone used BB way too fuckin much on everything

because iirc it was faster then

[hollow jolt]

BB on poxwalkers UwU

[bleak tulip]

and it does kill shit on lower difficulties pretty easily

and there is barely any elites and specials

[hollow jolt]

I remember psykers desperately BBing poxwalkers to keep warp charge stacks going

[viscid matrix]

it counts as 2

[hollow jolt]

Because "lol all stacks disappear"

[bleak tulip]

so spending time on the one crusher with BB feels worth it in like malice

meanwhile in damnation there is basically always 4 crushers

so suddenly BB is entirely pointless

to simplify it a little

[high trout]

Hello fellow Psykers. I'm new here. I tried for the Warp Battery Penance and I want to kill myself.

[iron flame]

I am doing penace farming right now

I want to cry

[bleak tulip]

that seems to be a pretty common thing lately lol

[high trout]

I gave up and switched to cc for quickplay

[iron flame]

stop killing my elites ppl T_T i know glowing head makes for good "aim here for headshot" indictator but plzz T_T

[viscid matrix]

its easier in higher dificulties, cause more specialists and elites

[hollow jolt]

BB upgrade to make it chain like Smite UwU

[bleak tulip]

but yeah try higher difficulties, more density

[high trout]

I believe you, got to 287 on Auric Damnation

[bleak tulip]

also unbind your F key

[high trout]

Did this as well

[iron flame]

Me playing on damnation and it feels like there is so many oh shit situation and i ended up pressing F

[viscid matrix]

let them know you are attempting it, and to not killsteal plz

[bleak tulip]

I did it like a year ago so I have no current tips other than "use purg and assblast every horde" thats how I did it on smelter

by accident

[viscid matrix]

choose shield, so you dont have a reason to use it as much

[high trout]

It's all good. Enough of my problems, how's everyone doing?

[hollow jolt]

REAL psykere edge Tzeentch properly without venting UwU

[severe folio]

i dont think its tzeentch thats on the other side of the edging

[viscid matrix]

yes actually, but im hoping to see the Emperors light more than chaos

[hollow jolt]

He is, in his own way, always receiving the edging

[severe folio]

nah

[viscid matrix]

sitting between 80% and 100% constantly is a skill, and without venting shriek since its a crutch that weakens you

[iron flame]

If FS ask me to redesign left side of the true, I will just make BB do damage as it charges up. Like the moment you channel on some poor dude, and the talents making it chain to nearby specialist or elites lol

[severe folio]

i'd just make bb a massive beam of fire

[bleak tulip]

weakens you by consistently killing like a hundred things every 12 seconds?

[viscid matrix]

i would remove BB, make it Crush instead, that is a single target skill, that crushes an enemy with 1k damage per second that makes a cube drop to the floor after it dies

[gilded radish]

used mostly smite and a few times used my revolver

[iron flame]

Probably should rework warp charges too. Feels like consume it on pressing F is like asking ppl to not use F, bad interaction

[bleak tulip]

nah its the point

you get em back so fast

the whole point of warp charges is now CDR

[viscid matrix]

when you use shield and are used to ventin shriek, you end up playing safer and lower to compensate for the lack of a peril dump, but also cutting defenses and attacks

if you sit at 80% or higher you get maximum buffs from any peril stacking talent or blessing

[bleak tulip]

if you like it or not

I mean I dont but sure

[severe folio]

i dont think this is everyone

[bleak tulip]

I also barely play shield because why would I

its nice and comfy but

shriek is better imo

just in every conceivable way

[iron flame]

man ... wish the keystone is like divide into 2 subsection so it either buff damage or cdr so for ppl who use BB to farm penace, they would just take the damage one

Like i know we got 24% increase damage but it still feel kinda weak for BB

[viscid matrix]

i prefer dome shield for that damage reduction and toughness regen, plus removing vomit before it can leave BoN's mouth

[iron flame]

maybe another 24% for blitz

[severe folio]

nah

[bleak tulip]

thats how it used to work and as expected literally everyone just held onto their charges making the whole class just always deal 24% more damage which is probably a nightmare to balance around

[iron flame]

Although feels like it will just make assil more op lol

[severe folio]

dont want to encourage spamming blitz

[viscid matrix]

2 of the keystones before the class rework dumped warp charges on vent use

[severe folio]

24% more for blitz is essentially almost as close as EP buff

[bleak tulip]

yeah and those were the bad ones

is my point

okay fair, one wasnt bad

it was just the fire one

[iron flame]

Hmm yea i think i just use the keystone that don't dump warp charges

[severe folio]

oh yeah

there was a keypoint like that

[bleak tulip]

the cooldown one was shit

[severe folio]

was that wrack and ruin

[bleak tulip]

so they made it normal

so now its free and not a wasted point

which I like

means more fire

you can literally get the effect of all three 30 talens at the same time now

which is kinda neato

numbers probably arent identical I dont remember

I hadnt played in like half a year

[severe folio]

they took away wrack and ruin

[bleak tulip]

ascendant blaze

[umbral helm]

before talent trees I'd run a gun psyker with shredder autopistol where I'd bounce between magdumping with kinetic flayer and then occasionally using my F to quickly pop heads at lower peril cost before swapping back to the gun

[bleak tulip]

wrack and ruin was pretty bad iirc

or there was just something much better on that tier

one of the two

[severe folio]

actually

a lot of people seem to say its one of the better one

[rain meadow]

Brain rupture with purgatus staff is still the most fun psyker loadout for me

[severe folio]

back then warp charge is gain via just bb

[bleak tulip]

yeah which is why I ran kinetic

to keep it up for free

[severe folio]

now

its just on scary kill

[bleak tulip]

okay there, talent tree ca march 23

wrack was bad because the other two were just better

literally free damage

or a much shittier version of perilous combustion

not even remotely a competition

[frank moat]

Kinetic Barrage my beloved

[severe folio]

having wrack and ruin in this new talent tree would be bice

nice

[umbral helm]

cerebral lacerations, you'll be missed

[bleak tulip]

old talent trees were shit, you cant change my mind

[hoary badge]

Wrack was certainly one of the less popular options but I often ran it with my flayer gunbuild

[bleak tulip]

you literally have it

and its one of the best talents we have

[hoary badge]

Old wrack was on hit

[bleak tulip]

okay so that image is from march, so unless that got changed

it distinctly says kill

I wouldnt know I didnt play this summer

[viscid matrix]

they gave a modified version to smite

[hoary badge]

It was buffed multiple times since that image

[bleak tulip]

fair enough

[hoary badge]

It wasn't all that bad if it wasn't for the fact it was competing with a juiced version of warp rider

[bleak tulip]

yeah that sounds about right

I probably still woulda ran that

because lmao free damage

[viscid matrix]

one of the best nodes on the tree, should try to get it every time, and the warp attacks toughness regen, soulblaze is a warp attack

[severe folio]

comebine it with PC

[hoary badge]

KBing a Crusher allowed you to rack humongous stacks of soulblaze

[iron flame]

Oh ...

[bleak tulip]

I mean they could just deshittify wildfire

and you have more fire already

[severe folio]

trueee

they should replace wildfire with wrack and ruin

[bleak tulip]

making more fire on hit seems stupidly strong if it isnt in direct competition with a 10-25% damage boost

[severe folio]

thats okay

more fire more light

[bleak tulip]

I wish

[severe folio]

wish harder

[bleak tulip]

but yeah with how comically good soulblaze is already now I dont even know if unfucking wildfire is even balanced

[severe folio]

no harm in making it better

all fun for everyone

[hoary badge]

Power creep is a very divisive issue

[bleak tulip]

I mean yeah people will bitch and moan and not just be whiny

[hollow jolt]

Need more power creep pls

I want my Voidstrike staff to one shot Nurgle

[hoary badge]

Nothx

[iron flame]

I took that out to make space for true aim ... worth it or not ? That soulblaze on elite/special kill

[viscid matrix]

only the Zealot is allowed to 1shot a monstrocity

[hoary badge]

Psykers already have a stranglehold on the meta as it is

[bleak tulip]

I deadass had people passive agressively talk shit about bringing assail when I grilled like 7 gunners with void and hadnt used assail at all that mission before

thats how toxic the conversation is

[hollow jolt]

0/10 game psyker can't kill god

[iron flame]

Hadn't tried assail but seeing it deletes hordes of specials makes me feel so jelly

[bleak tulip]

tfw psyker cant kill bosses

[viscid matrix]

tbh blaze on elite/sepecial is amazing, and the warp attack toughenss above it too
both work together since soulblaze is a warp attack, and anything that dies while on fire count as a soulblaze kill

[bleak tulip]

and literally all other classes can

[viscid matrix]

Gunker can, but then you are a gunker at this point

[bleak tulip]

yeah

abusing stupud crit strings

[iron flame]

Hmm soo i take out true aim and the mini nodes used to get there and put in soulblaze and wildfire ?

[bleak tulip]

gunkers arent real psykers

come at me

[sour pilot]

I like guns with my space wizardry on occasion

[viscid matrix]

wildfire is hot garbage, it doesnt work properly and is a wasted point

[iron flame]

Ohh it is bad ? alright

[bleak tulip]

dont take out true aim if youre playing void

[viscid matrix]

at best it will spread 1 stack out to everything around the enemy

[umbral helm]

speaking of, I remember I was tangoing with a chaos spawn the other night, and a zealot got really uppity that he, through his own skill issue, couldn't land a hit on it with me keeping it distracted, and blamed me for it. he just gave up about halfway through and made us kill it

[bleak tulip]

its like one of the core talents that makes void as good as it is

people think you just pick any void and youre OP now, but nah you still gotta build into it a bit

it has a lot of shit blessings

and you need some talents for it to really get good

[sour pilot]

What is the general consensus on the Purgatus staff anyway. It's like, fun, but it usually feels like you'd be better with the lightning one

[bleak tulip]

its good because infinite cleave

its generally outclassed by other staves

[sour pilot]

That is true.

[viscid matrix]

its the worst staff, but still viable in all content

[bleak tulip]

we're in the best spot we've ever been as to the viability of staves which is very nice, you can do everything with all staves and be useful

just some are better than others

[hoary badge]

I would tier Surge lower than the purg if it didn't inherit smitep

[iron flame]

hmm soo that is why surge is so op atm ?

[ornate hamlet]

What Auras would people recomend in general? i am reading more and more of trigger happy kickers.. i just wanna play x-x

[cold oasis]

bugged

[hoary badge]

You get a quadrupled damage output between the 135% bonus and extra jump

[whole oxide]

meanwhile, everyone on reddit convinced that it stunlocks the entire map

[bleak tulip]

I mean most reddit opinions are based on malice

same with assail

except assail is actually still too powerful

[viscid matrix]

its great for staggering everything you look at, but its damage doesnt compare to Void, Trauma and Surge

[umbral helm]

well, your first issue is taking anything people say seriously

[bleak tulip]

just not to the degree that reddit made it out to be

[whole oxide]

i mean, thats exactly wrong, its damage is great but stun is weakest of the staves

[viscid matrix]

i said stagger, not stun

[hoary badge]

It's still very good at deamplifying situations you can't burst down

[bleak tulip]

it still does add stagger to everything it hits, which is enought to really fuckin help

you dont have to literally hold em in a vice grip for the staff to be effective CC

[viscid matrix]

yep, its still the worst staff, its good, but the other 3 are way better

[umbral helm]

people shoot for being the one doing literally everything a little too often in a team-based game, methinks

[late yew]

Flak and crit chance?

[severe folio]

maniac, crit or carapace

[viscid matrix]

Crit chance, and then any of Carapace/maniac/Unyeilding
depends on what you want to kill fastest

[whole oxide]

it can also add stagger resistance, if you just clip a burster with your LMB at max distance, you can't then knock it over, really useful

[bleak tulip]

this is why you dont sprint at them to boop em with your melee when you could just safely shoot em from yonks away

they blow up from a stiff breeze

[plucky flax]

Dat power matrix and relay station spam..
(I haven't got the disruption and repair x missions done penance for these 2 Xd)

[severe folio]

im o nthe quest to improve the purg output

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer40k-warhammer40k-heresy-detected-warhammer40k-space-marines-gif-26543746

How many I need to kill? "All of them"

o7

[plucky flax]

Why u no pick plasteels

[severe folio]

still add up to 600 plasteel

[near wyvern]

was too busy killing heretics cause the others were not really pulling up their weight

[severe folio]

somehow theres only 1 death

[near wyvern]

yup

and 33 minutes

[severe folio]

you killed for pretty much half the entire kills

[near wyvern]

yes

[fluid knot]

Whats this mod?

[severe folio]

including the specials

[ornate hamlet]

Y'know now that i am leveling my own Psyker, a good Psyker can make or break clutch moments, from what i notice

[plucky flax]

Still most plasteels picked.

[near wyvern]

no time to pick up plasteels when you gotta deal with all the shit

[bleak tulip]

sedition king

[fluid knot]

1.3M.. niiiice

What was that with?

[near wyvern]

surge ep abuse?

[plucky flax]

It's gotta be done man.

No blaze trauma.

[near wyvern]

nice

[plucky flax]

It's very weak.

[fluid knot]

Good shit, wp

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

What are those 'extra' levels?

[bleak tulip]

got nerfed didnt you hear

[plucky flax]

It's how many times you level up since 30.

[viscid matrix]

its a mod

[ornate hamlet]

Is that a mod or base-game thing?

[viscid matrix]

Nexus mods

[plucky flax]

It was base game in vt2.

[ornate hamlet]

Ah mod okay gotcha, was gonna say, my Vet is at max exp, and isnt getting anymore

[plucky flax]

Then FartShart moment.

[near wyvern]

it is, the game just does nothing with it

but if you install the mod it will calculate how many extra levels you have gathered

[ornate hamlet]

I mean i dont really see the point of it myself, unless the extra levels would get you extra rewards, dontr remember if it did in VT2

[bleak tulip]

the game also collects all damage dealt and doesnt do anything with it

[near wyvern]

nice way to spot in a lobby who you can expect to pull their weight and who may be in need of some assistance if things get hairy

[plucky flax]

I recorded that game as well if you wanna have a gander. 7k hits on the tube for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

[cyan notch]

it did in vt2 but doesnt do anything in dt

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah that is fair, for me its been quite some time since i last played, so still getting used to what new abilities and stuff are good to use, was very suprised to hear about all the mods

[fluid knot]

Yeah i'll open it on a tab an watch it whilst i have lunch, cheers

[near wyvern]

mostly melee and brings blaze trauma, no wonder you got 1.3M xD

[plucky flax]

But people said blaze trauma bad.

[bleak tulip]

could check analytics, maybe some streamer showed it or something

[near wyvern]

yeah same like poeple say you need gunner resist curios or you die

@plucky flax Exhibit B of no need for gunner resist, just learn to use movement, environment and your kit

https://youtu.be/g9QXxkSajsQ

[idle bay]

pre-patch 13 Camo-vets for sure 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

I was a camo vet

[near wyvern]

no no, people have commented that my guide curio section is trolling cause it values toughness regen over gunner resist

both in steam guide comments and on reddit

[ornate hamlet]

You dont need gunner resist if you take them out asap, (still a vet's job imo) or stun em

[idle bay]

You out of therapy then. It's a hard thing to admit to be one of them. Cheers!

[near wyvern]

you don't need to take them out asap

@ornate hamlet this is my exhibit A, especially the beginning. Once you are 20m away or so you are completely safe to go as long as you want

https://youtu.be/A9xe_s2MUZg

[ornate hamlet]

Hey at the time, it was one of the best ways to play Vet tbh, pop the stance, and go to town on all the ranged enemies

[viscid matrix]

tbh its alright, but generally i use the dome shield regen and warp kills for toughness

[plucky flax]

These dudes make so much sense. It's crazy that even when I don't play a psyker in melee maelstrom I also get highest damage.

[bleak tulip]

I'm not convinced most people who keep talking about stacking gunner resist understand that sliding literally makes you invuln while literally sliding at the gunner, sniper etc

[near wyvern]

ehh... trauma is more effective the worse your team is

[zinc phoenix]

I just look to see who doesn’t have the gamer symbol and has the shitty new penance gear on

[plucky flax]

I didn't pick my teammates I only do solo queue.

[zinc phoenix]

Solo queue supreme

Gotta get those extra ducats

[ornate hamlet]

Ooooh so those videos with people fighting in the meat grinder is a mod too? Good to know, i was afraid i missed something and had a broken mourningstar lmao

[frank moat]

There are so many portrait frames labelled as AchievementX themed around different weapons/heretics, I like to think we’ll get a big penance update at some point and most of us are gonna have them all completed on log-in

[plucky flax]

It's piss easy with a party of 3 or 4 in this game. Even as duo queue 2 guys can clutch even the hardest of moments.

[ornate hamlet]

If it works retro-actively

[plucky flax]

Solo though that's when you're thrown into the meme maelstrom.

[stable silo]

hmm already swapped in for flak anything else i should change ?

[severe folio]

maniac

[stable silo]

instead of crit ?

[severe folio]

yeah

[summer prairie]

no

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

that would be a straight downgrade

[viscid matrix]

make the crit better, crit apllies double stacks

[stable silo]

its jsut painful for 1% crit

maybe swap warp to tier 4 ?

[wet belfry]

Pain is good

[severe folio]

which warp

[plucky flax]

Nexus.

[thorn cedar]

actual answer is unyielding

[near wyvern]

Nah, they planned to put those but some big exec stated they gonna be sold instead

[viscid matrix]

nexus to t4 if you can, otherwise crit to 5%

[severe folio]

both recommendation add about 1-2% more crit

[ornate hamlet]

Its always the management screwing us over these days eh?

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta get big critties

[zinc phoenix]

As a manager I resemble this

[severe folio]

you arent gonna get any bigger crit with 1-2%

but you might be ended when confront with a rager squad

in flak

[zinc phoenix]

But what if he’s ended by a fatty mob

[near wyvern]

The rule of nature is that either you are screwing someone over or you are being screwed over by someone else

[zinc phoenix]

Or a rager mob

[ornate hamlet]

Sadly yeah

[zinc phoenix]

What’s nice is in the modern era you can do both at the same time

Just get enough dudes in a circle and it’s like the modern workplace

One big ole lemon party

Don’t google that

[severe folio]

then he need that maniac damage

[near wyvern]

"circle of life"

[wise ruin]

blazing spirit good on void?

[severe folio]

can be niche

but terrifying barrage is very much not

same goes for groaners

[zinc phoenix]

I like terrifying barrage, everything cowering is funny

[wise ruin]

yeah i would switch that for some crit perks to work better with blazing

[zinc phoenix]

Is it mathematically amazing? No

[severe folio]

well i guess you found your own niche then

[zinc phoenix]

But like… I don’t care it’s funny

All the gun guys cowering like “oh my god she’s blapping this she’s blapping that I’m doomed”

Good stuff

[iron flame]

Imagine if there is a terrifying headpotting, terrify ppl on headshot blessing

[potent echo]

its actually just baseline void

terrifying barrage actually does much less

[zinc phoenix]

Ah obese fish

Never change

How about terrifying barrage on trauma?

[potent echo]

void explosion has like a 15m suppression radius or smth crazy

if you take terrifying barrage into the psyk, you will get 0.5 secs of suppression per kill

thats about it

you can just stagger everything anyway so suppression in a 7m radius doesnt have too much value

[late yew]

yeah, surge kinda stupid

accident quotation

what is Trauma blaze build now?

[viscid matrix]

ask @plucky flax , they play it the most

[near wyvern]

Used to be, nowadays not so much

[severe folio]

hey guys say kid among us backward haha

[glossy ember]

woao, what's the build lad

[severe folio]

surge

[feral verge]

(everything cowers without terrifying barrage)

[stable silo]

@wise ruin groaners to 5% crit terrifying to warp nexus IMO make urself a staff of firebowling

[late yew]

Surge, smite

[glossy ember]

flame shriek?

[late yew]

What about Trauma

[feral verge]

All staves already suppress a massive amount

Terrifying barrage is like having no blessing at all

[still hearth]

Yeah

[late yew]

I had it this particular game, but it barely adds anything, better take Dome

[still hearth]

Blazing is probably the best for Trauma rn

Rending is basically useless for it

[stable silo]

im still playing assail/void with illis in auric damnation doing great

[glossy ember]

really? thought flame shriek was an ez 100k damage on hordes

[still hearth]

So you only buff allies

[late yew]

So something like this?

[still hearth]

Yeah probably

But low blast radius is bad

[late yew]

it is just pointless it my opinion, you kill whole horde with 1 full charge of Smite anyway

[still hearth]

Since the big AoE also sets things on fire

[stable silo]

dont poo poo flame shriek\

[wise ruin]

yep that was my plan

[late yew]

i have this, but will have to replace both blessings then

[stable silo]

your in the middle of a crushder/mauler horde rushing up on you breathing down your neck 2 snipers set up ur like ohshi no one can deal with it or your at a bad angle boom shriek fire dead

[late yew]

also this

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-gif-5241003

[glossy ember]

wait how do you kill with smite, my smite takes foever to kill

[late yew]

you are* you fuckn ignorant worm

[stable silo]

never

your wrong!

[still hearth]

EP can probably kill from 0-100

[late yew]

nah, 6 stacks of soulfire is absolutely miniscule damage

[glossy ember]

i dont think he was running ep

[stable silo]

it kills snipers at like 80 peril

never need to aim again

[still hearth]

6 stacks of Soulfire kills almost all non-elites and does like 600 damage to elites

That's not nothing when you hit 50+ enemies

[viscid matrix]

6 stacks is roughly 240 damage unless you have warp attack buffs active

[still hearth]

What are you on about

6 stacks of soulfire does over 400 damage

[late yew]

dude

this is full duration

This is fuckn trash

[still hearth]

Yeah on

The highest HP

Elite

Right now

[late yew]

COmpared to huge utility of Dome?

Yeah, it is fuckn trash

and horde is easiest part of the game anyway

[still hearth]

And peril quell. And knockback.

The horde is the easiest part

Until there's

6 crushers

4 ragers

12 shooters

And 2 snipers

And a horde

[viscid matrix]

6 stacks will do 24ish per tick which is .75 seconds and as each stack falls off it goes down
they fall of as fast as they were applied

[still hearth]

That you can't focus on

[late yew]

And 6 stacks of soulfire will barely do anything to deal with that

Since it takes good 10 seconds for pox walkers to die from 6 stacks

[glossy ember]

without flame shriek you need to smite or melee tho right, flame shriek kinda frees an action of dealing with horde

or so i understand

[viscid matrix]

it will kill all trash, gunners and snipers

[late yew]

In that amount of time you either clear it all, or whole team dies

[near wyvern]

If you get the roll right it's meta

[still hearth]

It knocks them over

[plucky flax]

[still hearth]

They take 2-3 second to stand up

And then gotta run up

[late yew]

dude

[glossy ember]

also that's nice because you can now 2 shot the maniac rager with staff

[viscid matrix]

they were asking about a trauma build

[late yew]

you have infinite knocking up with Smite

[still hearth]

And you do 0 damage

[late yew]

So just barely lower than 6 stacks do in 10 seconds

[spice oar]

Ironically smite deals better dps than the 6 stacks

[viscid matrix]

take Perilous combustion, is spreads the stacks around as long as you keep killing elites, and each kill while on fire gives toughness from Soulstealer talent

[spice oar]

Since the 6 stacks will fall off and need tk be applied again

Smite is just continuous

[still hearth]

Smite isn't continuous

You can only hold it for like 5 seconds

[plucky flax]

I was told blaze trauma really bad pls don't use it.

[spice oar]

Oh no I have to peril quell for 1 second

Let's be real here

[still hearth]

Smite doesn't even

Kill bruisers

[late yew]

let's compare 64% blast radius against 80%

[viscid matrix]

😄

[late yew]

eh

i don't see much difference

[near wyvern]

@spice oar what if... You stack Creeping Flames + Wildifre + Enfeeble Smite. Think about that for a while.

[glossy ember]

but you can do flame shriek and zap elites at the same time, while you're stuck smiting no?

[spice oar]

Dosent take any time to quell, what you guys should even be doing is combining the soulblaze with smite

[spice oar]

I just said that man

[viscid matrix]

it does now, just takes about 5 seconds with no buffs active

[late yew]

with empowered psionics you havetime exactly to kill whole horde

[near wyvern]

That's the epicenter, the outer radius is a lot more than that

[still hearth]

Yeah definitely

A whole horde

[potent echo]

5 seconds?

[glossy ember]

big

[still hearth]

This is some strong cope ngl

[frank moat]

Everyone knows the only viable build is whichever one I like most

[potent echo]

dont bruisers have like 600+hp

[viscid matrix]

with no buffs yes, cause no buffs means 5 seconds for 250 damage

with empower it is in under 2 seconds

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1CxeUZ54TR1T52/d1337lLfHJ9G?invite=cr-MSxVREcsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[potent echo]

what bruiser has 250hp

[still hearth]

This is with Empowered

It kills like

6-8 poxwalkers

Out of 20

What kind of horde are you killing with this

[late yew]

comparing again, at more similar angles

yeah, difference is not even noticable

[whole oxide]

you're assuming that the animation actually changes in line with the stat

[potent echo]

iirc, the circle is a lie

[late yew]

hmmm

[still hearth]

I believe the circle is bugged

[late yew]

could be

[near wyvern]

This is the winner here. Siblings, time to give up!

[whole oxide]

and that fatshark didn't just put in an animatiom and left it

[still hearth]

Anyway smite killing things

Is still a myth

[potent echo]

but did you take !! 10% more damage node !!

[late yew]

I don't know how you managed to fuckn up basic mathematics in game

But no, it absolutely does kill 20+ easily

[still hearth]

Alright the second testing showed that it can kill 20 poxwalkers if they're not in the same spot. That's funny

[spice oar]

Yeah I personally kill hordes with it aswell

[potent echo]

smite damage is random isnt it

[late yew]

well no shit

[spice oar]

A bit

[late yew]

They arte never in the same spot in actual game

[viscid matrix]

because it spreads, cant spread if everythingis in one place

[orchid shadow]

5 seconds? Who's taking smite without Battle Meditation?? And hordes are way more than 20/

[spice oar]

More or less deals the same amount of dmg but it can randomly increase

[near wyvern]

That's because of how it spreads. Bodies on top of each other will not allow it to spread properly. Check the spread rules in Atheneum.

[still hearth]

It kills like 25 poxwalkers with a full EP charge

[spice oar]

Combine that with shriek? Hordes gone

[near wyvern]

Smite seems to deal random damage on ticks, similar to surge RMB

[spice oar]

Added dmg from the shriekand longer smite uptime is enough

[late yew]

But hordes are gone either way

[spice oar]

From my experience

[late yew]

But utility of shield is more imporant

And it is straight game saver when you stumble upon on huge groups of gunners and/or snipers

[spice oar]

I'm sure it's good against hordes with ep base, but with shriek it rlly let's me specialise

[still hearth]

Who's taking Battle Meditation ever

[late yew]

everyone who does not cry about smite being too short

[spice oar]

It proccs rlly often on smite

Extends the uptime by quite a bit

[near wyvern]

And with shreik you can push those busters and catch those dogs without having to fear dropping EP stacks before horde

[viscid matrix]

i like my perfect timing, mettle and soulstealer too much to take it

[still hearth]

It seems to actually work okay with Smite if that's your horde clear choice

[teal needle]

Shield is lovely but honestly the F picks are mostly icing on the cake of a psyker build. Neither shriek nor shield is really necessary for much

[spice oar]

I prefer to use my ep as soon as I got em cause I tend tk gain em too fast but yeah

[late yew]

unless you have very good shooters in your team ,shield IS necessary to deal with large groups of ranged enemies

[spice oar]

Shield if cc king, shriek if horde king, scriers why would you. End of convo

[still hearth]

Alright so smite horde clear is alright

[glossy ember]

680 or so i believe

[umbral helm]

I make my choices based on the funny voice lines they'll make my psyker do

[still hearth]

The damage on big things is still sad but whatever

[orchid shadow]

You can also Shriek at any time, so is something getting through? Scream. Peril getting high and need that extra bit to extend the Smite and finish the job? Yell your head off.

[teal needle]

Counterpoint: Nah.

[still hearth]

The CC makes up for that so you can swap to another weapon

[spice oar]

Now your getting it king

[late yew]

because it is control tool, not damage

And it does control job pretty well

[glossy ember]

Pop scrier, crit all the time, you're now invuln vs a million gunners and you can take em all out by yourself gigabrain strat

[late yew]

Still i would like basic version to get a little bit buffed even without psionics

[still hearth]

I mean yeah but so does all the other staves

[glossy ember]

that's unironically what i do

[still hearth]

Smite without EP works well if you don't want to focus on your Blitz

[late yew]

staves

wat

[late yew]

Gun psyker?

[still hearth]

Yeah

Literally all staves CC things

[glossy ember]

surge staff with scrier and warp siphon

[late yew]

That sounds like 2 seconds of shooting

[spice oar]

Man I rlly want new staffs

[late yew]

before havin 100% peril

[glossy ember]

it's way more

i've posted clips before

[spice oar]

Even new staff variants with different right clicks

[late yew]

i have not seen them

[teal needle]

Or just megaman meme slide your way through life like zealots have been doing since launch.

[glossy ember]

lemme link

[umbral helm]

technically speaking, everything can CC if you use it hard enough on enough things

[glossy ember]

i've got more to post but am not home so i'll get the old ones

[late yew]

Vermintide Beam staff when

[teal needle]

Death is a form of cc right

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message i think there's 3 clips here.

[viscid matrix]

lore psyker attacks like Crush when

[spice oar]

I want a smite staff variant that let's you chain a bolt of lightning between you and a teammate, can switch weapons during it and it just builds peril passively (stops at 100 like smite)

[umbral helm]

the enemy is controlled if it's not there anymore, don't gotta worry about it

[still hearth]

I want a smite staff that shoots out a lightning bolt

[glossy ember]

do both

[late yew]

Do you need Wildifire for Blaze Trauma?

[near wyvern]

OR, give the current staves actual specials???

[spice oar]

Let me hurl javelins of lightning like zeus

[viscid matrix]

wildfire is mediocre and doesnt do what the tooltip says

[spice oar]

Psykers can dk that

[glossy ember]

we need a new element, make ice

[late yew]

why your lightning animations so weird

[glossy ember]

I blitz cancel

[teal needle]

I'd strongly recommend against wildfire. Barely seems to do anything in testing

[glossy ember]

every rmb

[spice oar]

Nah I like the bonk, new staffs please

[near wyvern]

This is the way
https://youtu.be/g9QXxkSajsQ

[glossy ember]

that's how you sustain scrier with surge staff, otherwise you get to 100%

[teal needle]

Nyooooooom

[late yew]

cringe

[spice oar]

Scriers with surge is quite brave

[late yew]

Why have gun and shriek?

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1CxkgzPc8RV0FX/d1337w8qeMky?invite=cr-MSxJWkssMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[spice oar]

Gun shriek is fun, havnt played with it enough tho

[glossy ember]

i personally think ep with surge is cringer

[late yew]

I used that beforei t was bugged

So i have a pass to use it 👀

[late yew]

but why you have them both

[glossy ember]

bro got the E Pass

[near wyvern]

It's the Psylot build

[spice oar]

Can't believe I'm seeing Vanessa calling smite good

[glossy ember]

it gets the adrenaline pumping

[spice oar]

Someone pinch me

[glossy ember]

and also lets yoo 2 shot maulers and maniac ragers

[late yew]

that does not explain anything

[still hearth]

Ops game crashed

[summer prairie]

smite is fun when there's high density and you've shriek ready

[still hearth]

It does scale down without a horde tbh

But yeah

[iron flame]

Man ... penace farming is going to make me burst my own brain when 3 of teammate I got is 3 vets that delete elite and special as soon as they see it

[glossy ember]

oh and i get to make use of mind in motion

[still hearth]

I mean Smite was always good but the DPS was what I hated

[glossy ember]

which is fantastic

[summer prairie]

but no point taking EP

[iron flame]

When those exists why is BB so weak T_T

[still hearth]

If Smite LMB actually did a lot of damage

[vestal fulcrum]

Why not try it with a pre-made?

[still hearth]

Then it would be great

[spice oar]

It's rlly not, just gotta build it right

[still hearth]

It is

[spice oar]

Try it with scriers and ep

[late yew]

Yeah, they should fix that

[still hearth]

Idk what it's meant for

[near wyvern]

It goes fast and does great damage. You weave with assail and creeping flames and between your melee & gun to enjoy the benefits of Malefic Momentum and Perfect Timing.

[spice oar]

Kicks more ass than cadia

[still hearth]

The RMB charges in like 0.3s

The LMB is just slightly faster

And worse

[near wyvern]

Creeping Flames + Malefic Momentum + Dumdum hits hard

Ans perfect timing

[iron flame]

One of the panace is BBing elite and special at max wrap stacks

[glossy ember]

i didnt think of malefic momentum affecting flames

smart

[iron flame]

Soo yea ... EP can't work here as much as I want it too

[late yew]

what is creeping flames?

[teal needle]

The only thing cadia kicks ass at is blowing up

[late yew]

It seems it was meant for damage, but they fucked up in coding, if implemented it at all

[near wyvern]

Fire shreik

[umbral helm]

Vicious Mockery that deals fire damage instead of psychic

[spice oar]

Yeah the penances are fucking annoying now, that entire penance dosent let you use your combat ability because it'll remove your stacks, so enjoy playing the game without it

[glossy ember]

ez just find a group of gunners

[still hearth]

Just ask your teammates not to kill things

[teal needle]

I'm so glad i ground out the psyker penances at launch

[late yew]

LOL

funny one

[spice oar]

Same

[still hearth]

Play with Smite Psykers

[late yew]

expecting any kind of cooperation from pubs

[still hearth]

They don't kill elites

[iron flame]

Last game, I think I only got like 4 elite and 2 special because I got a crack veteran squads who snipes everything

[late yew]

i do

because i use smite only for hordes and mixed hordes

[still hearth]

Yeah the issue I have is

Wtf to pair it with

Probably Dueling Sword and Voidstrike, or a gun

[scenic crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[late yew]

Surge is obvious one

[spice oar]

A single dmg weapon.

Iike surgeb

[still hearth]

I mean Surge is nice yeah

But I hate it

[late yew]

as i said, i used that combo even before the bug

[spice oar]

Or headhunter autogun vraks

[viscid matrix]

tell your group ahead of time you are attempting it, and they usually will be okay with letting you try, but if you go down then you stop trying that run, so you try again in another run

[spice oar]

Laspistol

[still hearth]

Revolver maybe

[spice oar]

Void

[still hearth]

[umbral helm]

if only the tower of babylon didn't happen, we might be able to communicate better. alas

[iron flame]

Hmm yea sadly playing from Asia. Feels like most randoms I meet are Chinese and when I ask them to stop killing. They don't understand I think

Since I just got ignored

[still hearth]

Just play with more ping

[viscid matrix]

kekw myths have nothing to do with it

[umbral helm]

nothing I say has anything to do with much, but a lot of what is discussed here is silly, so my lack of substance fits right in a lot of the time

[wind halo]

lobby full of people with [][][][][][] names

[viscid matrix]

asian symbols

[iron flame]

Yea, i see a lot of those in my games

[umbral helm]

moon runes

[iron flame]

So I just assume it is Chinese players

[limber tartan]

I run gun psyker with scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny and i have just realised something after testing

This is bullshit

[umbral helm]

mention a certain square, I hear they love talking about it

[limber tartan]

Not because it does not work

Because it is worded incorrectly

You don't get stacks on marked enemy kills

[sonic coral]

wait what

[limber tartan]

You get stacks on (from what i've experienced) ALL enemies that CAN be marked

[whole oxide]

no

its just the mark doesnt' display properly on some enemies

[wind halo]

Maybe you mean the Weakspot kill grants 2 stacks thing?

[umbral helm]

funny visual bugs

[limber tartan]

Weak spot kills grant 3 stacks

But that's beside the point

[sonic coral]

? this one works fine

[viscid matrix]

thats from the upgrade to it

[sonic coral]

even using BB

[umbral helm]

something it does neglect to mention though is that it refreshes the duration upon damaging a marked enemy, which helps with uptime

[limber tartan]

Yea

[wind halo]

So...Shooters/Elites/Specials all give stacks?