#psyker-class

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still hearth
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Ahhh

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I'd still run the CDR aura if I could because its dumb value

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But idk what else

glossy ember
visual adder
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Alas

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The funny Psyker

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I found them

glossy ember
still hearth
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Yeah but you give your whole team 17.5% CDR as well

glossy ember
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I don't know if teammates are getting much use of it either since i have no way to gauge that

still hearth
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Which is huge for certain builds

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Any Vet will love it

glossy ember
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hm

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wait why 7.5%

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where is that from

still hearth
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Ogryn and Zeaot not as much amybe

glossy ember
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isn't it 5

still hearth
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It's bugged

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Gives 10% + 7.5%

glossy ember
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wtf

still hearth
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The CDR is 10%.

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But it doesn't do away with the old aura

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So you get both

glossy ember
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wait that's nutty

still hearth
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Yeah

glossy ember
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so do you get both auras no matter which you pick?

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like 5% crit and cdr?

still hearth
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Not afaik

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I think only the middle node is bugged

ripe crater
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Lovely

still hearth
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But its worth trying out tbh

glossy ember
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mh

ripe crater
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17.5% is pretty huge, even just for you yourself.

glossy ember
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I mean

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yes when it's almost double of what it's advertised to be

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of course it's huge.

still hearth
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Even 10% is still generally more significant than the other options

glossy ember
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no wonder the other auras can feel lackluster then

still hearth
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I am still confused why they nerfed the left node

wet belfry
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5% elite damage is op???

still hearth
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And also didn't fix the bug yet

glossy ember
still hearth
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Meanwhile Vet has

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3% damage

glossy ember
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or if I don't

still hearth
wet belfry
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Needs to be nerfed

glossy ember
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hence why I was like

still hearth
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I mean 3% damage is way better than 5% elite damage tbf

ripe crater
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I only run damage aura on my assail build, as it's a very passive build that doesn't generally need to use ult at all. Shriek is there for emergencies but no talents into it.

still hearth
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But they're still both ass

severe folio
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are they additive numbers though

glossy ember
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"yeah idk cdr ain't all that hot maybe?"

still hearth
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Yeah but the middle aura is super good for Vets in your team

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Like no matter what ult they take

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Its massive value for them

half iron
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so true

glossy ember
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don't they have self cdr nodes

still hearth
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Shout Vets can have 100% upkeep with a Psyker and CDR curios I bleieve

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They have

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6s off

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On specialists kills

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That's it

glossy ember
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oh

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wow that's not much

still hearth
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I mean it can be really good

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But it's super specialized

glossy ember
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i mean it's huge if lots of specialist spawn

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but you gotta count on specialists to spawn

still hearth
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So with CDR curios and the Psyker aura

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Vet shout is a 21s cd

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Which means they need to get one specialist kill

ripe crater
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If I go back to my assail build I'll probably change it for the cdr aura, as indeed the 5% elite damage is just stupid. Shouldn't have been nerfed at all.

still hearth
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TO have 100% upkeep

glossy ember
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okay but that's kinda broken

still hearth
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I mean their shout is already super broken

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But yeah

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Now it's even better

glossy ember
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yeah

still hearth
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Enjoy your constant overtoughness

glossy ember
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not very fair play, time to remove my team cdr nodes to give the heretics a chance

still hearth
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And they only need 3 specialist kills to get their shout back basically

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Assuming it takes about 1s+ per kill

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I mean CDR is the most impactful in my eyes by a mile

wet belfry
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When the rest of the class is bricked they might aswell get an op ult.

half iron
still hearth
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But its still not insane

severe folio
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having overtoughness all time isnt that tough when you have to face a union of flamers and bombers

still hearth
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I mean even with flames

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Overtoughness is still silly

glossy ember
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yea

still hearth
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It increaes your toughness regen after

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Since it uses your total toughness for the % values

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So if you have 100 toughness and 100 overtoughness

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Enjoy 2x regen

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And any toughness over 100% makes you OP

ripe crater
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We just need the next difficulty. What would be above Damnation? Doom? Hell? I personally like "PURGE" or "Purge the Heretic". But yea, that and red gear. ASAP, thnx.

still hearth
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PvP difficulty

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I'd say we mostly need more weapons

glossy ember
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"friendly fire on" difficulty

light citrus
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Which one better

still hearth
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Especially Psykers need more staves

still hearth
half iron
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a two handed force sword would be adorable

light citrus
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DPS

severe folio
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a force staff that can do melee properly would be nice

still hearth
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The right one has way better setup but you want to replace both blessings to Warp Nexus and Surge

glossy ember
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my last game was triple ogryn and a shout vet

ripe crater
# light citrus Which one better

I think the 2nd one, due to the perks. If you can get warp nexus on it instead of blazing spirit, I think it's almost tops apart from the stats.

still hearth
glossy ember
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we kinda played with our brains off

idle helm
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So as i have not played alot of time as a psyker, was just curious is there a reason to never use your smite when getting swarmed in a high intensity? like is there a reason i'm just not seeing of why you wouldn't use smite to lock down when ya got 6 armor ragers, 2 bulwarks and a reaper in the mix?

still hearth
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You want to use it only if the situation is super bad

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So that might be a good time

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It depends

severe folio
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that sound like a horrible time

bright mica
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Should I buy the drip

still hearth
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I mean with trauma

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That's kind of not an issue

severe folio
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why wouldnt you use smite during that

glossy ember
idle helm
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i just lately rarely if ever see smite psykers actually using their smite when we really could of used it to not either wipe or take alot of damage.

still hearth
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Trauma, Voidstrike, Purge and Surge can all stun enemies anyway.

severe folio
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ohh

bright mica
severe folio
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well haha

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that prob because their peril are too high

glossy ember
half iron
severe folio
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or

plucky flax
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But isn't surge without bug bad? whatthefuck_heresy

severe folio
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you know

glossy ember
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also smite gets interrupted if you get hit so if you're being swarmed

still hearth
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I enjoy that we have the oppostie problem of smite spammers

severe folio
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most psyker are ass

glossy ember
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bad idea to use it

still hearth
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I refuse to accept this

plucky flax
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Tru pls buff.

bright mica
round summit
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smite talent build where?

bright mica
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It's good, fits a niche in many builds for CC.

glossy ember
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Give surge a carapace buff so we can 2 shot crushers thumbsup_ogryn

severe folio
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every staff except for voidstrike is mid because theyre not a gun that have infinite ammo

still hearth
glossy ember
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how

still hearth
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Just do the funny bug

glossy ember
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I didn't manage

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i meant without EP ughhhh

still hearth
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Yeah no

bright mica
potent echo
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yeah no

bright mica
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EP overrated anyway

glossy ember
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It can three shot without yes

ripe crater
severe folio
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yeah fuk EP

plucky flax
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Most specials killed in a team with 3 vets. Surge haters where u at? Kappa

zinc phoenix
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I like warp charge cuz I screech

bright mica
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all my homies hate EP. Embrace 6 second cooldown Shriek

bright mica
zinc phoenix
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Yes

glossy ember
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but even at 30 stacks of freaking scrier's gaze and 6 warp stacks I can't 2 shots crushers staregryn

potent echo
zinc phoenix
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Cannot not reeeee

severe folio
plucky flax
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Anyway I digress.

idle helm
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Thanks though all. Was curious i've now played with the same person 3 different nights. Runs smite. Never once see him do a charged smite when we are getting pummeled in a bad spot and have a person knocked. but will spam the dickens out of low charge surge staff.

half iron
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all staffs good but they aren’t guns, so there’s that

potent echo
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its good but like

still hearth
zinc phoenix
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I only use surge staff to troll veterans

potent echo
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in v limited circumstances

still hearth
light citrus
severe folio
severe folio
glossy ember
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damn it aint working

worldly iron
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Auric Damnation

ripe crater
worldly iron
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is this good?

idle helm
glossy ember
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can't two shot crushers with 6 warp stacks and 30 scrier stacks is bullshit

severe folio
plucky flax
worldly iron
wet belfry
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I met a psyker yesterday with zero melee damage

ripe crater
still hearth
worldly iron
wet belfry
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He literary only used assail…

severe folio
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wait till you met a psykler with zero warp damage

idle helm
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@worldly iron I'm not sure if you've played the game a bit too much or got stupid lucky lol that staff giving me a chubby

plucky flax
lilac raft
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is there a petition or something to have STAFFS in the SHOP?

half iron
bright mica
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does it go hard or nah

plucky flax
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Assail handcannon no need to use anything else.

ripe crater
lilac raft
half iron
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assail more like ass lame

severe folio
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assail more like assalt

ripe crater
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My current surge staff

bright mica
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I'd like to do an assail assisted horde-clear build with a fsword but idek what staff you'd use

still hearth
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Use a gun

half iron
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gun‼️‼️

bright mica
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I guess revolver could work yeah

still hearth
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Vraks 3/7

bright mica
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No thanks

still hearth
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Kill the bosses

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Be the boss killer

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Then have a Zealot in your team

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With Thunder Hammer

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And feel useless

severe folio
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i learn that psykers have a Biomancy discipline that strength their physique

glossy ember
bright mica
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My Ogryn with a bleed build has funny amounts of boss DPS

severe folio
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so maybe there should have been a blitz where you just punch shit really hard

bright mica
severe folio
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and run fast

still hearth
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Bleed bad

bright mica
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or like

severe folio
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actually

severe folio
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scrier gaze should have had that

bright mica
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Give us a traumaforce CLUB

severe folio
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just let you fuk shit up with biceps

still hearth
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Give Scrier's more melee damage

quick python
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It kind of does

severe folio
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yeah thats true

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it kind of does

half iron
still hearth
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Scrier's should just be

quick python
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It pairs well with Duelling sword

still hearth
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That you get like

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Super powers for 30s

bright mica
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Scrier's already does enough dawg we practically make half of Vet builds useless with it 😭

still hearth
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Then you explode

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Imagine that

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Like infinite peril

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+100% damage

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Can't die

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Then you just

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Explode

plucky flax
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Gazer should work like volley fire and starts the cd after activation.

restive slate
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Gunpsykers, a question of opinion.

Prefered IAG?

bright mica
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Everytime I play Veteran I just feel "man I could be doing so much more damage and having so much more fun on a gaze gunsyker"

bright mica
quick python
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so like most scriers gaze psykers except for the cannot die part

bright mica
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Graia is good too but Columnus DPS is fucking insane

spice veldt
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columnus, since it has a 4-shot crit string

bright mica
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Graia makes better use of finesse

severe folio
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theres also astropath psykers

bright mica
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Columnus that crit string tho

spice veldt
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their finesse multipliers are the same right?

severe folio
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idk what they do though, steer ship through the warp i guess

plucky flax
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Christopher columbus because Graia had too much recoil.

ripe crater
restive slate
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Yea, I see most debating Columnus or Graia. What happened to Agri, since it used to be THE IAG everyone used

severe folio
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which is, 99% of the involve of human

severe folio
plucky flax
restive slate
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So Agri IAG is better on paper on Vet I suppose

severe folio
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damn, psyker can heal themselves

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but not these psykers

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only the fukin zealot somehow

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and they told me zealot arent psykers

still hearth
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Our Psykers heal toughness instead

severe folio
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fukin useless

spice veldt
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I run the columnus on vet personally cuz why not

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you don't benefit from the crit strings as hard, but it still has the highest DPS up close

bright mica
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boring ahh fuck

plucky flax
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Damn my meme blaze trauma video has 2k views for some reason.

still hearth
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It's not a meme anymore

spice veldt
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god damn

restive slate
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I have a personal rule to not have any overlapping weapons on all my builds. So I'm wondering who should get which IAG

bright mica
severe folio
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divination discipline of psyker is practically future sight and ultra instinct

plucky flax
restive slate
bright mica
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Scavenger Vet gives you damn near infinite ammo

restive slate
bright mica
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without one you run dry 3 times an Auric

plucky flax
severe folio
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guys look what i found

still hearth
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Make it 5s of bullet time

severe folio
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never

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slow mo

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in a coop game

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impossible

still hearth
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Hell yeah

restive slate
still hearth
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Lets go

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Yeah obviously

severe folio
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you know what it should have done though ?

restive slate
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Activate Scryer Gaze and confuse all our teammates

severe folio
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let you dodge range attacks at cost of peril while its activate

half iron
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i would slowmo a coop game in spite

still hearth
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Just crit and dodge them anyway

severe folio
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actually

restive slate
still hearth
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Scrier's should have 100% crit chance lets go

severe folio
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just dodge everything

mental rock
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I mean killing floor has zed time, why not darktide

severe folio
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range melee

still hearth
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Just remove all the other stuff

severe folio
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what is zed time

still hearth
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Just 100% crit chance

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And speed

mental rock
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Zed time is slow mo for everyone which has a chance of proccing on headshots and stuff

severe folio
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since all the staffs is it own category

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maybe there will be a second version of each staff

mental rock
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And you can get perks so you move in real time while zeds move in slow mo

severe folio
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i want a flame staff that just shoot a large beam of fire

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like opening the gate to the fukin sun

zinc phoenix
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Scier’s gaze should turn you into a Smurf

severe folio
half iron
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scrier’s gaze should turn you into john darktide himself

zinc phoenix
severe folio
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bruhhh

still hearth
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Imagine Assail throwing boulders instead

severe folio
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charge assail to lobe off bigger shard

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no

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charge assail to slowly combine all shards

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into a big shard

still hearth
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They should steal from Gunfire Reborn

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Where the Assail weapon is just active

silk hawk
# severe folio bruhhh

idk about erecting shield, but i definetely can erect something else with a sheer power of mind....

still hearth
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Until you run out of ammo

wet belfry
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Near all of the psykers abilties are from the telekine path.

silk hawk
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:'DDDDD

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ah i just was unable to skip it XD

severe folio
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brooo

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theres a spell where it jam enemies weapons

zinc phoenix
severe folio
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THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO USEFUL IN DARKTIDE

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WHY DIDNT THEY HAVE THAT

spice veldt
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revamp empowered psionics to do something different per blitz instead of having this general charge system and make it change assail into a larger single shard

still hearth
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Guns aren't that scary

severe folio
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that would be

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very nice

still hearth
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Assail turns off guns already

glossy ember
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alright lads

half iron
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gun psyker also turns off other guns

light citrus
glossy ember
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5% toughness damage reduction vs 10% toughness replenishment while in coherency?

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I guess neither would make much of a diff at the end of the day

severe folio
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hey i found vent

spice veldt
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10% toughness replenishment only affects coherency regen as far as I can tell

severe folio
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since fatshark learn how to many, Bots

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enemies bots

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some of these skills would have been very nice

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making enemies attacking each other

still hearth
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What we need is a full rework of how blitzes work

glossy ember
still hearth
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I mean barely

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But yeah

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It is

glossy ember
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yeah

still hearth
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They're both insignificant in the big picture

severe folio
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we are all insignificant in the big picture

half iron
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i’m swagged out in that big picture. posed with my beloved

glossy ember
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gonna give this a shot

severe folio
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good luck

glossy ember
idle bay
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i've done unimaginable:

  1. Earned blessing from all trash weapons
  2. Sold all trash weapon.
    I have not done clean up in like 500 hours.
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Now i can afford non-aquilla store cosmetic.

gilded radish
severe folio
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just add gunner dr

shell igloo
severe folio
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we making it to beta psyker level with this one 🗣️ 🗣️

shell igloo
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What would be a more interesting primary fire for a new staff? Right now the voidstrike, trauma, and surge have literally the same primary fire

severe folio
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maybe a staff that shoot assail

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most of the staff cant figure out a different primary fire because

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well

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spammy and low cost arent come in a lot of form

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not gonna hurl cheap lightning bolt

light citrus
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BB Staff

severe folio
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equinox staves are same so they can have the same forms

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bb staff would be funnyyy

spice veldt
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hitscan short-ranged lightning

shell igloo
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It's weird to me because don't pretty much all the Sienna staves have a different primary fire?

severe folio
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thats just secondary fire

spice veldt
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ye, but you'll have to actually aim it

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and it's single-target

severe folio
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i dont know much about siana staff

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but i recall she have that laser staff right ?

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i would want that in darktide

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fuk, one of the pyromancer discipline literally does just that

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they fukin project the sun like a beam

light citrus
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Meteor Staff

severe folio
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also pyromancers seem to have self combust as a skill

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meteor 😭

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i dont think that will ever fly

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in a game that already have fuked verticality

light citrus
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Cyclone Staff

severe folio
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they would have to dig their brain HARD to find a way for the meteor to pierce through the ceiling

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cyclone would be cool

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but i think thats more a blitz, or an ability ?

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create a vortex that suck enemies together into a spot

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that shit would be hella stron

light citrus
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Black Hole Staff

severe folio
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also im surprised theres no ice psyker category

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biomancy, telekinesis, pyromancy, divination, telepathy

shell igloo
severe folio
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this all they got

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huh

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i didnt know people make ideas for staves

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but arent you just describing a tweaked up trauma

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with innate blazing spirit

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no wait

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youre

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you made fukin haima cannon

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this is literally cannon of haima

light citrus
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Vortex Staff

severe folio
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if we get vortex i dont want it on staff

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i want it as ability

shell igloo
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I modeled the stats directly around the trauma yeah, but this would be a long-range parabolic arc. Definitely haima cannon vibes lol

severe folio
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that way i can purg into the vortex and create a fire cyclone

rose dagger
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Sure, just replace assail with that and make BB faster

severe folio
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why

rose dagger
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Cause assail is a boring ability

severe folio
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i see

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wait

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space wolf librarian can use ice

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but theres no ice discipline

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for psykers

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THIS IS NOT FAIR

shell igloo
rose dagger
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Sounds balanced

severe folio
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you know theres only 1 problem to that staff

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the map

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is going to fuk with the parabole

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a nomanus staff that have lighting strike down from where you aim your mouse would be nice though

shell igloo
# rose dagger Sounds balanced

I don't know if this is sarcastic, I tried to ACTUALLY make it balanced. I think being balanced is the main thing that makes a concept interesting

severe folio
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i mean

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it will be balanced but like

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its just trauma with extra step for extra casualties

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and i cannot tell if its an equinox staff or a rifthaven

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its fire so its gotta be rifthaven right ?

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fukkk i want a fukin ICE STAFF

shell igloo
rose dagger
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Imagine if they add corus to DT

severe folio
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what is corus

potent echo
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coruscation staff?

rose dagger
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Coruscation staff. Lets you apply DOT Fields everywhere and the primary fire is a shotgun

potent echo
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gimme shotgun staff

severe folio
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wait

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is this a siana staff

rose dagger
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Yea

shell igloo
potent echo
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sienna yea

severe folio
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because i only know coruscation means fire, or fire like

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oh

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oh its that staff

potent echo
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alt fire is zealot grenade but smol

severe folio
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i seee

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i seen it in action

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its very interesting

glossy ember
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you can almost tank a daemonhost with devil claw without kinetic deflection.

shell igloo
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I think a corus staff would be dope, and there's definitely room for it in the game

severe folio
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but how will the alt fire exactly work

plucky flax
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Beam staff.

severe folio
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do you just slap the alt fire down once and return to spam prim fire

severe folio
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GIVE ME BEAMS

plucky flax
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Beam staff when vt2 first came out was incredibly op.

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The right click did a gazillion damage.

shell igloo
severe folio
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i see

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and it can only have 1 circle each time right >

rose dagger
shell igloo
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No I think it can have multiple, but it just has a high cost

glossy ember
rose dagger
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With fingerrolling you can melt bosses with corus

severe folio
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naah they would not let that happen in darktide

shell igloo
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THis would probably have to be adjusted for Darktide, since you can't just quell peril indefinitely in VT2

severe folio
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if you can place multiple dot down

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yeah

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they would make it like

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very short on the ground

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or only 1 circle

shell igloo
severe folio
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well its a staff thing

rose dagger
severe folio
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main problem is that

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is it even possible for staff code in darktide

rose dagger
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Not that I want BW in DT lol

severe folio
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they dont really have a limit on spammed objects in darktide

rose dagger
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She's too OP

severe folio
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because peril quellin

glossy ember
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overall build went pretty good

shell igloo
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I don't know what the shared assets are like between games, but I'd like to think it wouldn't be terribly hard to translate code for staves over to Darktide

glossy ember
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the gun psyker with scrier outdamaged me though deadge

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well kinda expected

severe folio
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meteor land leave behind a fire crater

rose dagger
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I need to play scier gun psyker more. These days I often get bored of the staffs before I'm even done with melks for psyker

shell igloo
glossy ember
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i'm starting to do less and less melee damage the more i play psyker and i'm not sure this is a good thing though

severe folio
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its

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natural ?

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i mean you are suppose to make more warp damage

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and you have weapons that cover whatever your melee purpose was before

glossy ember
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right but it used to be 50/50

rose dagger
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How would any of these orbital staffs work inside/underground lol

severe folio
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you shouldnt look at it as "melee damage" and "range damage" but more on each of its purpose

glossy ember
#

but i guess with a shield ogryn in the team

glossy ember
#

kinda a waste to bother meleeing

shell igloo
#

This one wouldn't be orbital. Charging would show an arc like aiming a grenade (maybe slightly higher arc than nades)

glossy ember
#

@near wyvern so is that rampage % + 50%, or just raw 50% no matter the tier

rose dagger
#

Depends. Duelling sword heavies put in work with a horde clear staff. And for voidstrike the added horde clear of illisi is nice to have

severe folio
#

did necromancer update for siana add any staff ?

rose dagger
#

Yea one staff

#

It's alt fire is similar to brain burst

severe folio
#

huh ?

#

i dont get it

#

you do bb with staff is that it ?

shell igloo
severe folio
#

bounce on contact huh

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interesting

#

whats it called ?

shell igloo
#

Yeah it's quite satisfying. The "soulstealer staff".

severe folio
#

nice

rose dagger
#

Soulstealer

shell igloo
#

The drawback is there's friendly fire in VT2 and Necromancer has long-ass burns. So you have to carefully aim soulstealer not to deal a nasty slap on an ally

severe folio
#

lmaooo

#

wow

rose dagger
#

DOT FF is so annoying

severe folio
#

friendly fire in a coop horde game

rose dagger
#

Don't miss moonfire being very common

zinc phoenix
#

Is neckromancer out?

severe folio
#

bro

#

fatshark is fukin

#

sadistic

zinc phoenix
#

Wait you can barbecue your buds with your neck romancy?

#

That’s funny I’m definitely doing that

light quail
#

empowered and brain burst goes hard wtf

zinc phoenix
#

Obesefish winning again

light quail
shell igloo
#

I don't think friendly fire would work well in Darktide, but it certainly adds an interesting element of discipline in high-difficulty VT2

zinc phoenix
#

It worked well in L4D because guns are controlled

shell igloo
vestal fulcrum
shell igloo
zinc phoenix
#

Sienna players out here ending entire runs with one missed fireballs 😂

rose dagger
#

Functionally an easier to use bolt staff

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But not as good

severe folio
#

sienna have a lot of pyromancy

zinc phoenix
#

Sienna Funnehgirlosaurus

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Sienna Fuggeddabouddit

vestal fulcrum
shell igloo
zinc phoenix
#

🔥

rose dagger
#

Other than bolt staff, sienna doesn't do that much FF compared to javs or throwin axes or javelins

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Said javelins twice, perhaps deservedly

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Since elves like treating their teammates as pincushions

shell igloo
rose dagger
#

It's always a big oof

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Unless it's zealot's back

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In which case, keep em coming

shell igloo
#

The javelin is "magic", it could be cool to see a psyker analogue that costs peril...

zinc phoenix
shell igloo
#

I guess that could take some thunder from the ogryn rock though

rose dagger
#

Assail rmb already feels kinda similar to jav

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Homing jav

zinc phoenix
#

Clearly the intent of it

#

Wondering when we get a mechanical class with servozombies

severe folio
#

wait

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what is this sister of thorn staff thing

#

this is not sianna is it ?

#

theres another caster class in vt2 ?

vestal fulcrum
rose dagger
#

Sister is magic ye

shell igloo
severe folio
#

a whole different character ?

#

oh

rose dagger
#

The staff is exclusive

severe folio
#

they only got this 1 staff ?

rose dagger
#

Only sister can use it

severe folio
#

i see

#

huh

#

its abilities

#

seem

vestal fulcrum
#

Well, Sister can have peril, but only if the staff is taken

severe folio
#

op in darktide

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being able to freeze up an enemy

vestal fulcrum
#

otherwise she's just as generic as all other classes in regard to weapon choices

shell igloo
#

The sister of thorn only has one staff and it's pretty cool. Primary shoots a burst-fire of thorns in a line, alternate suspense an enemy in the air for a few seconds.

rose dagger
#

Yea sister is an odd one in that she came with 2 new ranged weapons and no new melee

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Tho jav can be used as melee

vestal fulcrum
#

The staff is overpowered in the base game, people usually just don't play it because it doesn't destroy everything like the javelin does

shell igloo
#

The jav is insane for dealing with elites and specs. I think the staff fills a special niche for reliably disabling chaos warriors and saving allies

severe folio
#

people are fukin stupid

near wyvern
left mirage
#

how does one build trauma, havent used it since beta

near wyvern
zinc phoenix
#

Then you suffer

near wyvern
#

@left mirage check the psyker atheneum in the pinned messages

zinc phoenix
#

Soon you will build excellent trauma

left mirage
rose dagger
#

I still use my old nexus/soul blaze trauma. But I'm sure flurry and the rending blessing are better combo

near wyvern
#

pretty low base stats my mate

#

try to find 350+ if you are new

left mirage
#

yeah the quell speed is in the gutter

zinc phoenix
#

Just bring force sword and quell with that

atomic zephyr
rose dagger
#

It's low but I'd honestly roll it with how bad my luck is with dump stats

near wyvern
glossy ember
#

that's straight up broken

zinc phoenix
#

That blast radius is based

glossy ember
#

36% power is already big but 86

atomic zephyr
glossy ember
near wyvern
# zinc phoenix That blast radius is based

well yes and no, it doesn't still increase your cleave and you need multiple targets to have it in effect so it's not that noticeable, it does make light spam pretty nice against horde

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even a mixed one if you have uncanny strike

near wyvern
zinc phoenix
#

If there’s not multiple targets you’re probably not whipping it out tbh

near wyvern
#

power increases your impact, cleave and damage

zinc phoenix
#

I’d upgrade the stick tbh

near wyvern
zinc phoenix
#

Especially if you have nothing better

plucky flax
#

Stealth vet with smoke grenade and speed aura. Pogryn

zinc phoenix
vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
#

I have a feeling he might suck.

#

Let's see. Xd

#

Mk1 devil's claw and mk3 helbore. Interesting indeed.

zinc phoenix
#

Turns out he’s a god

glossy ember
#

well shit

#

that's huge

#

sounds way better than shred

rose dagger
#

I dig the claw

glossy ember
#

even without bug

near wyvern
#

shred gives you better monstrosity damage so it's all depending on what you use

#

if you have something like voidstrike, trauma or purgatus staff for your ranged you never whip out your duelling sword for hordes

#

so at that point uncanny strike + shred is the better choice

#

the one thing about builds in games is that there is no single best solution to everything (unless the balance is broken af), there are only best solutions with respect to something

light citrus
atomic zephyr
#

Uncanny strike is priority 1

light citrus
opal pebble
#

is shred iv better on a deimos than uncanny 3?

left mirage
#

oh yeah this'll cause some trauma alright

light citrus
unkempt juniper
plucky flax
severe folio
unkempt juniper
#

is crit bonus a dump stat on tac axes?

fierce crest
#

nah still mobility

severe folio
#

still mobile

fierce crest
#

base mobility is higher

#

the stat doesnt matter

rose dagger
#

Trauma won't kill crushers fast but the brittleness will help your team finish it off after you knock em on their ass (or did the stagger nerf change that)

zinc phoenix
#

And reeee

astral peak
#

in order to get Surge blessing shouold i upgrade grey staffs to blue or does surge only appear as the second blessing when upgraded? if that makes sense

#

Surge can appear as the first blessing when upgrading staffs right?

rose dagger
#

More likely to get tier 4 as 2nd blessing

#

And surge is only tier 4

unkempt juniper
#

so im missing out on 3% crit rate and 2% crit dmg vs some armor types for max mobility

astral peak
#

sorry what does that mean

#

tier 4 upgrade?

#

so i have to upgrade it to the second blessing slot i guess?

unkempt juniper
#

i think crit bonus will be my dump stat and i'll try tac axes

rose dagger
#

In other words you're more likely to get surge as a 2nd blessing but it's possible to get tier 4 blessings first

astral peak
#

ok so tiers is just the number of upgrades done that clears stuff up thanks

rose dagger
#

It's the number next to the blessing

astral peak
#

oh ofc

#

so wait i am more likely to get a higher tier blessing as the second blessing slot upgrade i take it?

rose dagger
#

Seems to be the case

astral peak
#

just generally i guess?

rare storm
astral peak
#

aight

late yew
#

why non-psykers such idiots?

glossy ember
#

uhhh. probably bricked, isn't it

hoary charm
#

Unarmored is useable

#

Infested is not the greatest, but you will be firing this into hoards

glossy ember
#

guess it'll depend on what I get for final blessing

silk hawk
#

"ranged dmg" nodes affect soulburn dmg?

late yew
#

Probably not

silk hawk
#

okay

round summit
#

what is last tree for assail?

visual adder
severe folio
#

tried running fire trauma again

#

entire team wipe from, practically nothing

#

literally dont even know how they all just scatter around and die

#

fukin double trappers and bombers should never happen

summer prairie
#

+ranged dmg node doesn't affect trauma charged shot

late yew
late yew
#

you clearly have not seen 4 trappers

rare storm
late yew
#
  • 5 mutants
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  • boss
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  • some other specials
#
  • horde
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all at once

queen fog
#

when a man sees a conga line of bursters it changes a man's outlook on how flexable The Director can be

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i was that man, i also tried pushing said conga line KEKW_ogryn

#

you can probs guess how that went down

strong gulch
#

There needs to be some system that lets you freely test in the meatgrinder.

queen fog
#

we got something close with mods being able to turn on the mob's ai n junk

#

but i assume u mean in base game

strong gulch
#

I mean change perks and blessings.

queen fog
#

huh, the power of vagueness has bamboozled me again

#

sounds like a cool idea tho, see how well flesh tearer pairs or any other blessings on a weapon

#

before reblessing it

strong gulch
#

Being able to quickly change weapons around. BUT ALSO we still don't technically get all enemies in the meatgrinder without mods.

prisma delta
#

Best smite psyker build?

queen fog
#

this is true, no monstrosities

#

id love to be able to test unyielding damage on something that isnt a reaper without mods

strong gulch
#

If you're in the middle of just comparing things and oops turns out you don't have enough plasteel to switch perks around, you're SOL. Feck remembering things unless you take notes.

strong gulch
# prisma delta Best smite psyker build?

Time to bring the lightning Varlets!

In this video we'll be looking at the first of my Psyker's builds - the Storm Witch! Smite was one of the abilities I was looking forward to covering, and although it didn't turn out as I had hoped during release (I was hoping Smite was a channeled beam of lightning that deal high singe target damage), I've ...

▶ Play video
#

I haven't used a lot of smite. I'm about to try it.

round summit
#

easiest staff to use?

strong gulch
#

Hopefully I remember to use it lol

#

probably purg (fire staff)

round summit
#

purgatus?

strong gulch
#

yee

round summit
#

hmm didnt like that one

#

what does surge do?

queen fog
#

bio-lightning

round summit
#

well im using smite

#

so maybe not

queen fog
#

a little bugged if u got the empowered psyonic keystone

#

and na thats a good idea, hell i rock smite and surge alot

round summit
#

im lvl 17

queen fog
#

real fun

round summit
#

what is voidstirke

worn cypress
#

purg is pretty crappy before you hit lv30 and can get one with good burn stat

queen fog
worn cypress
#

voidstrike is easy and fun and feels effective from a low lvl I think

summer prairie
#

you only need to get to like 12 stacks for almost everything to die

round summit
#

aight ill try that

summer prairie
#

burn stat shouldn't matter much

worn cypress
#

ehh yeah I guess true

#

I guess just generally feels kinda crappy until you get a decent stats one

rare storm
#

Sad as f but it does work

#

most of the time

#

until people just give up

severe folio
bleak tulip
#

burger man

cyan notch
#

borgar

stable silo
#

hey what are the perks for void now to match with surge and warp nexus

#

maniac flak or crit flak or something?

rotund dagger
#

like 25 something force swords before i got this one

#

brunt is clowning on me

stable silo
#

thats a nice frame

#

very nice

#

enjoy the nice brick

rotund dagger
#

It will be a very nice brick

stable silo
#

im guessing its gonna be executor 3 and hmmm lets go with shred 4

crimson remnant
rotund dagger
#

Hadron has been good to me lately

crimson remnant
#

This guy is evil

rotund dagger
#

So I'm hoping for something decent at least

crimson remnant
stable silo
#

well how did it go

silent coral
#

Man this disrupt destiny tree is ass

rotund dagger
glossy ember
#

some guy really said "use bug" and left because he saw me doing good with surge

#

even though i had warp charges around me...

stable silo
#

aaaa

#

i remember those days

#

now i have 20k + of every resource

#

and a roster of top tier weapons on every clas

#

except ogryn

#

just play auric damnation and the resources flow like something that flows

#

ironically im limited by ordo dockets now, i had to drop like 3m illion to get a good laspistol on my vety

stable silo
#

i cant

#

i have to run CDR toughness and HP on everything because im a slave to statage

steady yarrow
#

curse you Hadron

mighty island
steady yarrow
#

That being said, would you guys use that over this one? I feel like the difference is neglible but the perks are a lot better.

steady yarrow
bleak tulip
#

dont really need mutie damage

stable silo
#

i trust you with every fiber of my being im dumping all my resources to get a new void staff

bleak tulip
#

I would never lead you astray

#

until I talk about anything but void where its 100% just my opinion

restive slate
#

What ability do you pair witg Void?

bleak tulip
#

I use vent

#

because creeping is just a shitton of free damage

#

shield is very comfy too tho

sonic coral
#

this is mine

restive slate
#

Which shield do you use

sonic coral
#

it's alright

bleak tulip
#

I use dome but I also dont run shield usually

#

most people seem to use it

sonic coral
#

kinda wish I had flurry on it but the 2 shots... almost? makes up for it? sort of?

bleak tulip
#

surge is better

restive slate
#

Surge is fun

sonic coral
#

running with as close to a crit build as you can with psyker without going scrier

#

I use vent with it too

restive slate
#

Fr tho, scryer gun psyker might be my fave playstyle

sonic coral
#

love gun/dueling sword scrier with laspistol

restive slate
#

Its just so aggressive

sonic coral
#

yea and you are constantly moving at mach 5

#

or, at least I do because I also do disrupt destiny

#

zoom

#

space zorro

glossy ember
#

man even with scrier and crit aura i don't feel like i'm critting enough staregryn

restive slate
#

Disrupt Destiny is fun once you get high stacks

restive slate
#

Also a gun like Columnus IAG crits like crazy

glossy ember
#

trading 25% damage on carapace or flak for 5% crit doesn't sound like a good deal

rotund dagger
#

You wanted to crit more didnt you

glossy ember
#

oh come on

#

damn even with a double crit i can't 2 shot crusher cryKEKW

slow raven
#

you dont really want carapace on iag anyway

#

esp on psyker you shouldnt be shooting them with iag since the damage is so bad

#

25% of small number is still a small number

stable silo
#

this is my voidstrike its from a earlier time...

glossy ember
#

iag?

slow raven
#

infantry autogun

glossy ember
#

oh

slow raven
#

like columnus

glossy ember
#

i'm running scrier with surge staff

sonic coral
#

just built a new one, should I swap unarmored or elites? feel like probably elites

glossy ember
#

not playing gunsyker

stable silo
#

only problem is with void you dont really have a problem 1 shotting unarmored

glossy ember
#

It works, somewhat.

rotund dagger
stable silo
#

dam u evil hadron

slow raven
#

only problem of surge with scrier is that you dont benefit from the weakspot damage portion of it

glossy ember
#

you mean finesse node?

#

I just take peril generation -20% node instead

slow raven
#

doesnt scriers base buff weakspot damage?

#

maybe im thinking of dd

#

i usually run both

glossy ember
#

10% damage

near wyvern
glossy ember
#

what I just ran in an auric rn

slow raven
#

yeah so it kind of sucks that you're not benefiting from that, but it's not the end of the world

glossy ember
#

tbh i'd rather the 20% peril gen anyway

hasty kraken
#

Do staffs increase peril venting rate?

glossy ember
#

it's much more useful to get to 30 stacks while I use surge staff in scrier

slow raven
#

tbh, i wish that scriers could fully benefit more staffs than just voidstrike, kind of sucks that the others are left out. but i guess most people use it with guns so idk

glossy ember
#

and I wish my shadowplay had worked because then I'd have shown proper gameplay

slow raven
#

i liked using voidstrike with scriers though

#

it hits crazy hard but you have to quell a ton

#

but it's nice that with staff quelling you can easily hit 30 stacks of scriers consistently

round summit
#

is it viable to go gun instead of staff?

slow raven
#

hard to do that with guns

#

well scriers is mainly intended for guns

#

so yea

glossy ember
#

tried without and i just get to 100% way too easily

#

if i nade cancel i can upkeep it for much longer

slow raven
#

wdym by nade cancel?

glossy ember
#

qq cancel

#

but nade is faster

royal granite
#

i finally got the surge blessing for voidstrike and spent some time with it, and i have to say, voidstrike isn't as good as just bringing a revolver

slow raven
#

like you press qq or g after casting the right click?

hasty kraken
#

Do staffs increase quelling speed only when you hold them, or is it baseline?

royal granite
#

when you hold them

#

stats from equipment only apply when the equipment is in your hands, seems to be the rule

near wyvern
royal granite
#

which is why you can do stuff like throw a bunch of assail darts then switch to a revolver for better crits or something

glossy ember
hasty kraken
#

Many weapons have shorter reload animations if you swapped out of them or did anything else while being in the middle of reloading.

glossy ember
#

i messed up twice there though

#

but yea

hasty kraken
#

So thats the trick that psykers use to one shot elites

glossy ember
#

yes

#

well

#

either that or they're using the surge bug

#

with EP

slow raven
glossy ember
#

you can see I don't one shot mauler and crusher

#

this also gets you to the crit part faster

hasty kraken
#

Yeah, i meant the smaller hp pool elites.

glossy ember
#

so more uptime on the evasive talent w/e it's named

near wyvern
severe folio
#

if you need 2 shot to kill something chances are the 2nd shot are gonna be from your teammate or you

glossy ember
#

but yeah this is pretty fun

rotund dagger
#

They need to add Plasteel Curio Perks

slow raven
#

ive experienced it too, doesnt seem reproducible consistently though

rare storm
#

Does surge make you only gain peril during the animation?

rotund dagger
#

Hadron is a fickle mistress

glossy ember
#

and you get to the quell part faster

#

the peril ticks on ticking near the end of your surge animation

summer prairie
#

because it starts charging again

rare storm
#

damn

summer prairie
#

not seeing any difference in terms of gained peril

rotund kiln
#

Mk IV dueling sword chefs kiss

silent coral
#

does empathetic evasion have an internal cooldown? I see perfect timing proc a lot but not evasion

rare storm
summer prairie
#

I think grenade cancelling is faster now

rare storm
#

How does that work HAHAHA

#

So spam to the blitz key

#

and swap back to staff?

summer prairie
#

g, 2

rare storm
#

I see

summer prairie
#

I think it saves like 18 frames

rare storm
#

Other than for surge, what does grenade cancelling give benefit?

summer prairie
#

which is quite a bit

twin yacht
#

So what makes gunpsyker worthwhile over just playing a vet?

rare storm
plucky flax
#

But handcannon assail is a very op build.

glossy ember
summer prairie
#

with blitz swap you don't have to release rmb, makes it much easier

glossy ember
#

sorry was in the middle of a game, this was with surge staff scrier build, never hit this high damage Pog

#

anyway i got a few clips

#

to showcase scrier surge

#

hold on

twin yacht
#

Any builds feel good besides assail? All staffs feel mid atm imo :/

rare storm
#

Is there a use for grenade cancelling outside of the surge staff?

rare storm
summer prairie
#

so it's a pretty significant dmg buff and not too hard to do manually, like +20% dmg

rare storm
plucky flax
#

All staves are good but purg is worst imo.

small whale
#

wtf is grenade canceling

glossy ember
plucky flax
#

That looks too hard to do man.

#

I'd just call it a day and play like a normal person. peepoRain

glossy ember
#

i mean

#

you're not wrong

#

so i'm not gonna go against that

#

but i think it's pertty fun to be able to use scrier as a "defensive" tool when paired with empathic evasion

#

second clip you see me stay in the open against all those rangeds it's pog

#

@slow raven @rare storm pinging for the showcase mid gameplay

round summit
#

is it viable to go gun instead of staff?

glossy ember
#

people usually do that with scrier yeah

severe folio
#

yeah

maiden cedar
#

Its viable but why would you

round summit
#

i barely use the staff 😄

maiden cedar
#

Staffs the best part about Psyker imo

rare storm
round summit
#

i use my staff to snipe far away stuff and a gun would prob do it better

glossy ember
#

just don't explode

glossy ember
#

can't lie this is a nice change of pace compared to ogryn shield gameplay though.