psyker-class

[glossy ember]

nor fs

[harsh urchin]

Block efficiency lul

Ok i have heard enough

[glossy ember]

it works

lets me parry to death monstrosities with devil claw, and shield takes care of gunners or snipers so no need for that resist

also handy for panic blocking without kinetic deflect

[steel flame]

Works on gunners and reapers

[glossy ember]

I'm not trolling. I play auric damnation lol.

[silk hawk]

i wish there would be resist to small ranged shooters....

this bitches are the most annoying

[steel flame]

Clearly a Photoshop job

[glossy ember]

this is what I've been running

[glossy ember]

yeah i'd take that in a heartbeat

[pine relic]

I only play BB psyker now

fk you gunners

[silk hawk]

BB is life

BB is love

[steel flame]

One of these days I'll run 3 +3 stamina relics with block efficiency with a t4 deflector force sword

For funzies

[silk hawk]

and blocking to peril perk?

XD

[steel flame]

And that

[silk hawk]

sounds legit

[steel flame]

With shields

[glossy ember]

only one i can see being useful over toughness regeneration is 5% toughness

[steel flame]

Impenetrable fortress

[silk hawk]

do it then

[steel flame]

I take both toughness and regen

[silk hawk]

max toughness is probably will be better then regen anyways

bcuz of talents

[glossy ember]

i'll give it a shot after getting plasteel

and compare how I feel without 90% toughness regen speed

[tame venture]

i'm guessing i should switch out the perks? idk if i'd ever use deflector though

[glossy ember]

yeah that's what i'd do with kinetic deflect

but i don't run kinetic deflect on this build specifically

[pine relic]

now the question is, can you block crusher's overhead

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/block-this-overhead-block-overhead-dbfz-gif-21597355

[glossy ember]

i unironically haven't tried

but i probably should

[tawny raptor]

anyone got a smite build i can jus copy

real

[glossy ember]

but I doubt it

you can parry a crusher overhead, i heard

[steel flame]

Yup

[tame venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170208619950772244/image-47.png?ex=655834b4&is=6545bfb4&hm=d5c6084ef47f9dcf91f3b480b819f66b238ba36c5d9ade4cafb535efd6a5e4c7&

[tawny raptor]

my man

[steel flame]

This is mostly a personal gripe and not meant to offend anyone but people looking for just full builds so they don't need to read and comprehend the skill tree frustrates and annoys me

[tawny raptor]

real

[late yew]

why no shield

it is so great

[thorn cedar]

I do love how the trees give us all this room for player skill expression and yet, yes, a majority are always just going to ask to see someone else's notes instead of doing any experimentation. Owel.

[tawny raptor]

dome or the other one?

[late yew]

you need to time it somehow i think

[tame venture]

why shield when you can kill more

[late yew]

because you can't kill more if you are dead

[glossy ember]

heard it was a 30f window, sounds pretty generous

[bright mica]

gun psyker kinda fucks

[tawny raptor]

what gun are you usin my man

[bright mica]

columnus

laspistol is good too

[fresh reef]

Smite synergizes way better with Shriek

[tawny raptor]

interesting build

[rare storm]

vraks is good too

[tawny raptor]

ill try it when i suck less

[steel flame]

I hit 800k twice with laspistol yesterday. That pew pew goes hard

[bright mica]

yeah highest boss DPS :P

[rare storm]

las pew pew

dying to the flamer was worth it

[steel flame]

Yeah, I'm the one that found that out 😂

[bright mica]

nice :D

[late yew]

you can use it without interrupting the flow?

[bright mica]

columnus defo isn't higher but you can easily get higher DPS than anything the Vet can attain just from the sheer amount of crit chains 💀

[rare storm]

Shh we don't talk about the columnus, Zazy doesn't have one yet..

[bright mica]

whenever I see a scav Vet I switch to my columnussy build

ammo for days :P

[fresh reef]

Even if you couldn't, it provides actual damage for the horde you're attempting to clear

[steel flame]

It's a mix of the massive finesse damage on the laspistol, infernus, and dumdum boosting both

[fresh reef]

Not to mention the myriad of others ways it's useful

I've killed a group of snipers through 2 walls without seeing them at all just because I had a hunch of wear they spawned

[late yew]

Eh

protection >>> damage

can literally save you from wipes in some cases

[fresh reef]

As the old Tenno saying goes, the best crowd control is just making the enemy dead

[late yew]

no

literally no

when you see like 10 gunners

6+ specials

horde

and boss

also elites

also shriek damage is pathetic

[fresh reef]

Creeping flames just deleted the horde, half the specials, and all the gunners are now in tickle territory

[rare storm]

Well you can run empathic evasion and all the gunner's threat become voided, so... best defense is a great crit chance offense too

[fresh reef]

It hits breakpoint on every horde mob, snipers and bombers while doing substantial damage to everything else barring bosses

If you're also hypothetically running it with Smite, shield is just overkill with the lightning hands just being an infinite use stun grenade

[late yew]

Unless they are far away

whichthey always are

shooters

[fresh reef]

Option A, find cover
Option B, spam staff bolts until they're suppressed to close the distance or just kill the outright

[glossy ember]

aight I just had an auric match with a million poxbursters

time to try rectangle shield

[late yew]

eh

i vastly prefer circle

[glossy ember]

never tried rectangle

dome is goated

and the extra duration is nutty

[still hearth]

Dome is nice

And

[fresh reef]

Both are good

[still hearth]

It stops mutants

Because Fatshark

All you gotta do is hit the mutie inside it

And they stagger

[late yew]

So does dueling sword btw

its special on headshot

[fresh reef]

Excuse me fucking what?

[still hearth]

Dueling Sword is broken

[fresh reef]

Since when?

[still hearth]

Since always

Only if it's inside the dome and gets hit by something though

[fresh reef]

What in the gyat dam

[still hearth]

But you can stagger it with most things

I need to check it in psykarnum

[fresh reef]

Hit by, or staggered by?

[still hearth]

I've only seen it in game

Well most things stagger

[fresh reef]

Gonna test that rq

[still hearth]

But not usually muties

[fresh reef]

Ok so, DS to the face followed by placing a dome over it, or DS to the face while it's in the dome already?

[still hearth]

Well DS to the face will just kill it

[late yew]

neither

DS special to the face of mutie stops it

has no connection to dome

[still hearth]

Yeah

Dome itself has weird properties

[late yew]

Headshot, not sure

[still hearth]

And muties will sometimes avoid them

[late yew]

i think only on crit?

[still hearth]

Entirely

Uhm actually

Dome center

Just stuns Muties??

[strong gulch]

DS sword special to mutant face stops them.

No idea about the dome thing.

[fresh reef]

@still hearth did you not say "dome is nice" followed by "it stops mutants"?

[still hearth]

Uh wait wtf

Wait wait

Okay

So what happens

Is

That if the mutie is in the dome

And the target dodges

The mutie is stunned

???

[strong gulch]

uhhh

[fresh reef]

Whar

[still hearth]

Let me record this

It's hilarious

Hahaha

[late yew]

LOOK AT THIS FUCKN HERESY

this person should be executed

[strong gulch]

I'd get confused running into a dome too.

I walk into a room and have no idea why the feck I'm there.

[young ridge]

KILL KILL

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1C3GREpKfTJfaE/d1337oVXWgiz?invite=cr-MSxYWDMsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

There's more dodges at the end I was too lazy to cut it

But you can see it in action right away

[strong gulch]

That knife has a ball

[still hearth]

The mutant just

[fresh reef]

What in the fuck

[still hearth]

Slams into the dome

[fresh reef]

Bro got his ankles broken lmao

[still hearth]

Okay so you gotta

Dodge out of his way

But it doesn't care if he's actually in range to grab you

[strong gulch]

lol wtf

[late yew]

wait, does laspistol shoot faster than before?

[still hearth]

Yes

You need to be within like 5m of the mutie

For the dodge bang to work

But also

If the mutie missed someone

And you drop a dome

It will stagger more

It seems to be that when the mutie missed somehow that triggers the dome stagger

And that does 1 damage or something

[fresh reef]

Tinfoil hat theory is that the entirety of the dome is coded as a wall that can be walked through, and mutants only get wall stunned if they miss their grab

So by the power of spaghetti code, they hit a wall

[still hearth]

I mean it definitely feels like something to do with the stagger node working weirdly

But that's also possible

I think it does the same when they hit a wall yeah

Let me check

Yep

It's the wall thing it seems

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1C3K0TuRAKlqxK/d1337v07fZUe?invite=cr-MSxmSGQsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

More dodge memes

[frank moat]

I don’t suppose dodging backwards works?

[still hearth]

ALright gonna go to the store before they close now

Nope

[frank moat]

For the funny

Aw

[still hearth]

It has to trigger the "ops I missed"

[fresh reef]

Man that is just unbelievably stupid

[still hearth]

Which it for some reason does before the mutie even misses

[glossy ember]

ok yeah dome is superior

straight up

lmfao

rectangle is not something i vibe with

[still hearth]

Rectangle needs less CD

More spam

[glossy ember]

definitely

I don't think two charges is enough

also

people don't seem to know how to work with rectangle

they just go beyond it and hit things

and wonder why they're getting shot

[frank moat]

Yea that’s my experience

People will go to domes for the regen

[glossy ember]

i don't even think it's for the regen they just see a giant bubble effect

[frank moat]

Rectangle may as well be client-side for all the times my teammates have walked past it to get mauled by dogs

[glossy ember]

rectangle is harder to see in the heat of combat

yeah lmao

[still hearth]

Reduce dome size

Give rectangle lower CD

Make rectangle last even shorter

[frank moat]

I’d also like if shields blocked explosions but maybe that would be too strong

Quite often a poxbomber will bounce off the rectangle but it’s still close enough to shred my Vets

[fresh reef]

Seriously? I usually see them get chain staggered five times over like old Surge

[frank moat]

In my experience it’s inconsistent

[rare storm]

What the hell

[frank moat]

Like everything else in this game

[rare storm]

Learn something new everyday I guess

Can you cast the dome on the mutant halfway to stop it's charge? Like throwing a bowl onto a spider lol

[frank moat]

Also like 1/4 of the time dogs just straight up jump through my rectangles

[wispy pike]

I miss my dome

[frank moat]

Think they can’t be stunned if they’re in either a leaping or knockback animation, not sure which

[steel flame]

I love sitting there and watching a poxburster continuously bounce off the rectangle

[tame venture]

this is an optimal stat roll, isn't it?

[glossy ember]

dome not completely nullifying any projectile shot from the inside of it would be better tbh

for balance i mean

it doesn't make sense they can't shoot inside

huh that's interesting

they both do 977 damage on rager headshots, weird

[shell igloo]

It's perfectly serviceable, but I wouldn't call it optimal IMO. I'd rather have 80% damage, crit, and charge rate and take a 60-70% in warp resist and quell speed

[tame venture]

how's it compare to the one i'm using?

[silk hawk]

i just finished a game where i legit killed like 20 specials during assasination fight

[glossy ember]

nvm it had glitched

[silk hawk]

dafuq was even that

[glossy ember]

the left one does 939, second one does 977

[silk hawk]

thats just disgusting...

[tame venture]

the guide suggests that it's

1. Burn at least 76%
2. Cloud Radius
3. Warp Resistance
4. Damage, Quell Speed

tbh if i upgrade it and it has spectacular blessings it'll be clear cut, but as it is, if it isn't already a vital item i'd rather spend the plasteel later

[silk hawk]

ye it is, althou base level is schaise

[tame venture]

yeah...

[shell igloo]

Oh sorry, I was referring to the surge staff pictured. The purg staff is not even worth upgrading at that rating tbh.

[tame venture]

wait i'm super dumb, i was comparing two different staves

asdfgdlhd

[silk hawk]

for surge dump stat is quel speed

[glossy ember]

[silk hawk]

but if u will have like 60% warp resist and 60% quel speed and everything else +/- maxed

it will be fine

[glossy ember]

pin seems to differ?

bit weird for crit to be the dump

[silk hawk]

not following any guides, i just told u what i feel the most beneficial would be

surge crit alot

so i dont see sense in dumping crit bonus

[fresh reef]

It gives you at most a 20-something percent damage increase, and only with a crit

Quell is much more noticeable as dump vs high roll

[silk hawk]

counting that around 50% of your surges usually crit

its flat out 10% total dps

+/-

[steel flame]

I swear to the emperor I'm gonna smite the next person that posts a perfect 380 stat roll then asks "is this any good"

[strong gulch]

Low damage is fine on purge. Where it's actual damage comes from is the burn stat.

It's pretty good. The most important on purg is cloud and burn.

[glossy ember]

i see, figured it was mostly the crit rate that was important rather than the crit damage (from the crit stat)

[fresh reef]

Does crit damage affect crit chance?

[steel flame]

Crit is not a dump, whoever made that is a moron

[steel flame]

Crit stat has both crit chance and crit damage

[fresh reef]

Melee crit chance rofl

[steel flame]

Crit damage though has no effect on chance

[shell igloo]

Maxed crit-bonus stat gives your secondary an additional +30%dmg on crits vs ALL types

[glossy ember]

"melee"

what does this mean

[fresh reef]

Staff special attack

[strong gulch]

Staves have a bonk

[fresh reef]

It does a funny lil bonk

[glossy ember]

there's no way it's crit chance for this

that'd be so dumb

[harsh urchin]

You dont want to be dumping quell on surge esp since you'll be spending 60% of the entire game quelling lol

[fresh reef]

Patently false, given the above post

[steel flame]

The 30% quell feat removes the need for a decent quell stat

[fresh reef]

Still, minimum of 21% crit damage is still something

[harsh urchin]

You can have both fyi

[glossy ember]

man and here i thought it was crit rate for the zapping

[harsh urchin]

But that side of the tree is kinda terrible lol

[glossy ember]

[shell igloo]

Please literally look again and reconsider your statement

[fresh reef]

It's hypothetically capped at 30%, for 100% on the stat

[steel flame]

You can but sacrificing damage for an insignificant amount more quell speed is dumb

[fresh reef]

80% is the maximum achievable atm

[harsh urchin]

Afaik it is crit rate, the tooltip is wrong

[glossy ember]

oh

[harsh urchin]

You can easily test in grinder

[glossy ember]

i don't have any low crit stat

and i'm out of ordos

[fresh reef]

Extremely common fatshark L

[harsh urchin]

Its the same on revolver

It says melee crit

[silk hawk]

huehuehue

[glossy ember]

ok so if it's crit rate

it's pretty damn important

[harsh urchin]

But does actually roll into

[steel flame]

The crit rate with max crit stat on surge is absurd. Real shame it has exactly 0 blessings that use crits

[fresh reef]

This like old Kinetic Shield saying it works on "Warp Charge"

[harsh urchin]

Unfortunately staves dont really have a dumpstat

[glossy ember]

triggers crit nodes at least though

so that's nice

[harsh urchin]

You kinda just want a 380 with good rolls everywhere

[fresh reef]

But it does synergize with the one talent I'm not remembering the name of that gives you +15% warp damage

That's something

[glossy ember]

easy pz

just throw ten quadrillion ordos

[fresh reef]

Just rng better fivehead

[steel flame]

Perfect timing

[glossy ember]

I guess you can add Empathic Evasion to this

[silk hawk]

and blessing...pls...

xD

[harsh urchin]

Well considering theres 4 blessings in the pool

[harsh urchin]

Its not that hard to roll

[glossy ember]

pretty sure that's all for crit talents

[steel flame]

If surge had surge, the m1 would be so fire

[fresh reef]

Who needs shield when you can just shock one poxwalker every second to be range-immune

[silk hawk]

and yet hadron bricked like 3 good surge bases for me

i am mad as fk

[glossy ember]

honestly i kindaaaa wanna run it but i'm out of points... but what if... i took off the last shield node...

[fresh reef]

Honestly might be worth

Damage mitigation is peak

[glossy ember]

best i could get, can't complain

[orchid shadow]

How hard are Auric missions compared to the standard ones?

[glossy ember]

it is

although it might not be worth with shield

or well

it's worth

but less

[fresh reef]

Significant

[shell igloo]

That is a beautiful piece of wargear, varlet

[silk hawk]

decently hard, its always high intensity + something else on top

[fresh reef]

Basically the jump from 4 to 5, but again

[glossy ember]

behold, the sword that accompanies it

but really i lucked the fuck out on that staff

got it at like... level 40?

never looked back

[silk hawk]

are u parry man?

[glossy ember]

only when i don't fuck up

[orchid shadow]

Huh, okay. Welp, time to embarass myself and jump right in then.

[silk hawk]

i saw crab parry chaos spawn to death

can u do that?

xD

[glossy ember]

oh i tried spam parrying a chaos spawn and without elites my stamina didn't really go down

so it's probably possible, with enough time

but i'm not that good with it, still working on it

[silk hawk]

btw

[glossy ember]

only started psyker recently

[silk hawk]

is that gona work with daemon?

[glossy ember]

yeah it does but you still take corruption

[dense bramble]

Depends on your team and their comp. If you can comfortably do damnation already Auric isnt so hard

[silk hawk]

i see

[glossy ember]

with kinetic deflection you can hold her forever

without... well i haven't tried yet

[silk hawk]

i am currently sit with DS mk 2

but i was thinking about to try catachan

[glossy ember]

catachan is super fun

but i haven't tried out dueling sabers yet

only tried out deimos, ilisi, devil claws

[silk hawk]

i like deimos stagger XD

nothing can be funnier then dropping crushers on the ground

[glossy ember]

yeah it's absurd

the sword is strong as hell

but it's hard to run both deimos and surge staff in auric

i tried but i couldn't handle hordes well

[silk hawk]

ye deimos is maade to run in paar with purgatus i think xD

[orchid shadow]

Okay, thanks. I'm comfortable enough to quickplay any damnation game it wants to throw me into. I'm always leery of bringing down a team when jumping a difficulty.

[strong gulch]

Trauma too

[silk hawk]

i am ignoring trauma existance... bcuz i dont like to look up and down too much XD

[strong gulch]

Valid

[glossy ember]

dropped this but it has 0 range and does 0 damage to... everything.

not sure what's the point of it

[silk hawk]

it works like an inferior version of a dagger

[glossy ember]

a random dagger i had in my inventory does WAY more damage than this

[plucky flax]

Prepare to do all the objectives yourself.

[glossy ember]

also separating crit damage and crit rate is dirty

finesse has the crit rate and atk speed

[glossy ember]

right now my choices are:

1. malefic momentum, +5% tdr, final dome shield node
2. final dome shield node, empathic evasion, 5% ranged damage
3. malefic momentum, 5% tdr, empathic evasion

for better visualization

[fresh reef]

2, probably

Though you could grab second dome node, Kinetic Deflection, and Evasion

[distant roost]

prepare for some lvl 30 randomly bringing two low levels into auric and you get to just suffer

[plucky flax]

[distant roost]

Auric T5 HISTG with me and then the other three...

[idle aurora]

We really need some sort of distinction between new lvl 30, and those who have been through hell and back, without true level mod you can only tell by portrait frames

but you need to memorize those lul

[glossy ember]

that's also an option yeah, but i feel like kinetic deflection is a bit wasted on devil claw with parry being strong as ballz

[plucky flax]

Even people with tru level 100~200 still suck balls.

[near wyvern]

So there were some doubts here about the crit damage modifier for Surge staff. Let me clarify a few things up.

Critical Damage bonuses only boost the differing amount between your regular and critical hit. So if you regularly hit for 100 and with crit you hit 150, +20% critical damage bonus would give you a total hit of 100 + 50 * 1.2 = 160 damage instead of the 180 damage which would be intuitive (150 * 1.2), but this is a so nothing is allowed to make sense.

The greatest benefit of having Critical Bonus is the crit chance it offers to proc Mettle and Perfect Timing, since the damage of a regular fully charged shot is around 800 and a crit is around 1k to 1.1k (so that +20% crit damage is worth around 60 damage IF you crit).

Surge staff is the fastest peril generating staff, therefore it greatly benefits from warp resist and quell speed as that allows you to hit more of things (not to talk about how if often overkills weaker targets...).

Therefore, any decent total stat staff will have food enough Critical Damage stat, it's those other stats you want high. But Surge will also do fine with flat stats (all equal).

[spice veldt]

well, there's the true level mod to make that distinction

[plucky flax]

My block list is growing every day.

[spice veldt]

and the reality is that there's no great single metric to say that this player is really good

true

they really should just increase the block limit

[plucky flax]

There is a limit?

[spice veldt]

50 so far

unless they increased it

[plucky flax]

That's so few. What about blocking via steam app?

[spice veldt]

I'm not sure

[distant roost]

theres also the issue that

[spice veldt]

yeah esp now that the game increased in population

[distant roost]

some new lvl 30 or lower level true level

are actually good

[idle aurora]

oh yeah, I'm not saying that level is a 100% guarantee for good player, but it atleast shows, that potentially team always knows wtf to do

[distant roost]

so it just sucks as a measure

[plucky flax]

I played a maelstrom last week with 2 ogryns. One was lvl 30~ ish, the other was 300+. The low level ogryn was so much better than the high level one.

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[fresh reef]

I only block people that are toxic, in hopes that the bad ones will just get better

[plucky flax]

The high level guy was just spamming his stubber the whole game and spamming "I need ammo".

[strong whale]

for the purposes of the 'Perfect Timing' talent, soulblaze is warp damage, right?

[fresh reef]

Currently I only have 2 on the list

[glossy ember]

wow crit damage sure is ass. crit rate be nice tho

[lyric burrow]

they really did make the end of hab dreyko absurd huh

[strong whale]

or does it count as fire damage

[idle aurora]

if it wasn't gorgon, then it's even worse

[distant roost]

tbh id say in most scenarios, crits more often would lead to more overall dps

[plucky flax]

I only play hab dreyko with shout vet or stealth zealot now. People refuse to do objectives there.

[spice veldt]

and we are like in a period with a spike in new players, so i think our grievances will be solved with time

[plucky flax]

It was the kork thingy lol. The worst stubber.

The low level ogryn called him out for that too.

[lyric burrow]

we actually got caught up on the escape lol

which i didnt think was possible

[idle aurora]

Hub is either the most easy, or the most difficult map, depending on team

[strong gulch]

Ok, I'm not even that bad. What the hey??

[plucky flax]

What's up?

[spice veldt]

people spamming "i need ammo" are so weird, esp if no one else in the game has been taking that much ammo

[idle aurora]

The few times i had 4 people move from scan to scan locked together in the end was amazing

[visual prism]

for duelling swords, maniac or flak?

[plucky flax]

Spamming "I need ammo" when they have the lowest specials kill count. Real stuff.

[near wyvern]

Why not both

[visual prism]

can only get one xD other perk rolled carapace

[strong gulch]

The player being bad. I joke that I'm not good at this game (because it's true). I was remarking that that not even I am that bad.

[distant roost]

Me when the only orgryn in the strike team wanted more ammo... the rest were staff psykers

[near wyvern]

If you can two shot mutants on head shots without maniac then go flak

[dense bramble]

Dont be scared of that bro. Most people dont even worry about that

[near wyvern]

Otherwise go maniac

[plucky flax]

It sucks cos I want to bring memes to auric games to test it in a higher intensity setting than regular damn. But every time I am not bringing my strongest build teammates are super sus.

I just want to meme.

[visual prism]

cool. i got precog so my mutant headshots do lots of dmg

[shell igloo]

Wow, thanks for clearing that up. I'd assumed that "+30%" meant crits deal a bonus of +55% dmg (25% base plus 30%), but if it's a percent of a percent that is COMPLETELY ass

[distant roost]

tbh its fair to sus but anyone with a scoreboard should be able to just go "ok damn, they doin work"

[strong gulch]

Speaking of memes. Exorcist and blazing spirit on illisi while using scrier's.

[robust sierra]

is the obscurus sword any good?

[distant roost]

pre decent? unsure of obscurus but the warp res being the lower stat isnt horrid

block eff is always nice

[plucky flax]

I brought laspistol meme to maelstrom and lost because i ran out of ammo.

[distant roost]

rip

ammo struggles

[strong gulch]

noooo

[plucky flax]

Laspistol without a vet is so tough.

[strong gulch]

Laspistol and assail??

[plucky flax]

And of course the other 3 dudes vacuum up all the ammo while not really taking care of specials.

Yeah laspistol assail gazer.

[distant roost]

fucking hell the lfg posts fill instantly

[idle aurora]

If you mean specifically this one, yes. But when compared to other 2, its, eeeeh, ok i guess

[plucky flax]

But I shoot quite a lot because it's just faster than assail at taking out high priority targets.

[dense bramble]

Main reason I play psyker. Too many times with vet

[strong gulch]

true

[plucky flax]

So laspistol meme is reserved for regular damn for now. I am not that good with conserving ammo on laspistol for auric.

I am comfortable with revolver though.

[strong gulch]

I have been actually enjoying blazing spirit illisi.

I saw someone run it on deimos, and I don't like it.

[plucky flax]

I tried uncanny slaughterer illisi for a bit. But there are times I needed deflector and it wasn't there. Then gunners shred me to pieces.

[strong gulch]

😭

[idle bay]

I opend Gameplay feedback forums.. and by the Emperor - it whinge whinge whinge. Nefr that, nerf this, too op. Those karkers never stop 🙂

Good tyhing FS fo not give a single kark about feedback 🙂

[plucky flax]

Speaking of krak, this krak grenade somehow killed 10 maulers.
https://youtu.be/vGfJrPYDlBo?t=133

[orchid shadow]

You'll still have people like me, rocking the green prison duds and the grey noobie frame.

[near wyvern]

AHH the "never ending" fire

Wildfire mandatory

[idle bay]

There are new spawn pattern when games drops dozen of ragers/armored ragers/maulers at you at once

And good thing when they come from one spot

[plucky flax]

Oh this was just melee maelstrom.

This mode spammed bulwarks, crushers, maulers, and ragers.

[idle bay]

It on normal Dmnation as well

Without any special conditions game does that

[dense bramble]

Thats pretty much perfect. Try it out

[idle bay]

though without condition it happens once or twice per mission

One of my new favorite spawn patterns is 70 dreg gunners through basic Heresy mission.

Never seen such pattern on Damnation though

[dense bramble]

Heresy has always been a bit whacky though

[idle bay]

That is why i go there time to time - to see spawn director mad-karkery 🙂

2 bosses back to back (one section spawns boss and next section spawns another).

[dense bramble]

I have seen that in damn. Even low int damn has that sometimes

[idle bay]

Though danation like to spawn boss in the room with Deamonhost - quite often

But i never seen swarms of gunners on damnation like i've seen on heresy.

[dense bramble]

Ive had all combos of 2 bosses at this point. I hate 2 spawns

[idle bay]

Though with new tight spawns of swarms of ragers/maulers - Plasma vets make those engagements trivial 🙂

2 plasma vets in the team who know who to shoot and it's not a Damnation - it's Sedition

[dense bramble]

Plasma vet took my job man got a dollar?

Took my beautiful voidstrike staff and gave it to the vets

[idle bay]

If all the special/elite spawns get deleted in second before they are any threat - it basicly removes any diffculty

You just have to deal with small trash and shooters

[bright mica]

When are we getting this ability added to Psyker?

[plucky flax]

Revolver > plasma.

[idle bay]

To shot yourself from shame 🙂

[plucky flax]

[idle bay]

With plasma you can spend your last charge smartly and go full "Emperor is great" and take some of that elite pack with you 🙂

And also get penance for Psyker while playing vet...

[plucky flax]

Dats tru.

Blow up like the world trade.

[hard crow]

Was the telekine shield/warp siphon no cooldown interaction patched?

[idle bay]

Yes it was. But cooldown is still low enough that you can put dome after dome after dome

With like 10-15 sec CD, that you can reduce by killing elites

[silk hawk]

ye ithink they patch it

[near wyvern]

Yup

Gaze still gets no benefit from charges tho

[bright mica]

gays get no benefits from charges??!

waddahel

[hard crow]

What about Smite and Empowered Psionics where Smite wasn't costing any peril to maintain?

[bright mica]

dat shit got fixed bwah

[silk hawk]

patched

[glossy ember]

gonna give this a shot

[idle bay]

The most awkward thing as Dome psyker - when you team is so good in killing DELETEING enemies in throves - that you don't need put the Dome like ever...

[glossy ember]

then i'll give this a shot

[bright mica]

just put down 2 of them and make psionic boobs

[idle bay]

You just put one before extracting.. just to put one

[idle bay]

But you can no longer draw dick with domes - that is sad

[bright mica]

with psyker teammates u can

[hard crow]

This is the worst news I've had all week

[wheat storm]

guys, is this stat roll good for now? (im rank 26)

[silk hawk]

the only thing people need to be happy is the ability to draw a dick

yep, thats about right

[bright mica]

its . ok

[near wyvern]

@hard crow now we have Empower Psionics Smite bonus damage affecting Surge RMB without removing the charge and Smite +1 targets also increases surge RMB targets from 2 to 3. However, that's only useful for getting tripple mettle and some extra CC, the damage of Surge drops hard after first target.

[idle bay]

Before you get to 30 - use whatever Emprah send your way.

[near wyvern]

But that bonus damage from EP to surge is a bit nuts

[bright mica]

only damage, stopping power and ammo (to a certain extent) really matter on laspis

[idle bay]

Try things out 🙂

[wheat storm]

ok, m'lord

[silk hawk]

"a bit" u say?

xD

[near wyvern]

A wee bit

[idle bay]

I need to take a shower after i go with EP+Surge build for few mission - it feels too dirty

[silk hawk]

kekw

[next mist]

y-yeah guys i totally run assail haha y-yeah fellas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1170490610147401809/image.png?ex=65593b54&is=6546c654&hm=93c75ac5296fd69bb65c3a4c68e56ec3844bd15772157b814557e9aa24c4b7ff&

[silk hawk]

rmb your way to victory

[idle bay]

That's the proper way to use kine knifes

[shell igloo]

I honestly WISH they would fix it already so I could just run my EP Palpatine build without feeling so naughty

[storm hound]

noooo warp battery 250/300 😭

[idle bay]

I see no reason to grab EP branch for anything but that bug. Warp charges branch gives me more things to play with.

[hard crow]

Do you have a screen shot of your EP Smite build?

[shell igloo]

Like someone mentioned above, I find the new EP smite quite effective and immensely satisfying for waveclear

[idle bay]

I use it mostly not for wave clear but to give team breathing room. To hold the push of heavy melee wreck-it-team for example.

[shell igloo]

Repeatedly pulsing Smite for CC is perfectly valid if you don't want to run EP. I'm just saying that EP actually makes it viable for waveclear

[idle bay]

Smite is never ment to be used for damage for me anyway

[hexed roost]

Used to save me or my teams ass from swarms, has done very well for me so far

[idle bay]

Dome and few stuns-pushes with Smite - it's you means to be a Mother Goose and keep your team somewhat alive

[near wyvern]

Nope cause I don't encourage exploiting bugs, I tested it for a game to confirm and never did that combo again.

Just pick Mettle + Perfect Timing, perhaps Soulstealer as well and make hour way down to EP. You only need a single point in it if you never use your blitz.

[shell igloo]

For example, if you can regularly kill at least like 10 poxwalkers in a single cast, you'll almost always earn back at least one EP charge

[near wyvern]

Try the creeping flames + smite combo from Atheneum, you will be surprised how it has similar wave clear but still allows you to use smite freely as you wish.

It's the surge staff build

[plucky flax]

Smite surge with warp charge is still strong you don't need to abuse bugs to win.

[idle bay]

I also like to spam Surge, so 6 warp charges that reduces peril generation and not-in-bugged-way improve my Surge damage - cuts off EP for me for now 🙂

[shell igloo]

I don't disagree, I think that's completely valid. But I want to run Surge for single-target and the EP Smite to clear hordes. Ideally without any bugs in the mix.

[idle bay]

Also if horde is Moaners and not Poxwalkers - LMB spam of Surge stuff suppresses the living crap out the hoard, while killing 75% of it.

Poxwalkers do not give a kark - they are zombies

[plucky flax]

Aye then screw it and just abuse bug. You might get some vocal disgruntled teammates though.

[clear heath]

people probably just assume you're using the bug if you're using surge at all anyways

[near wyvern]

But TBH Surge could do with a big of a Carapace and maniac damage increase when they fix the EP bug. IMO mutants and Crushers should be 2 shot with a full battery surge.

[idle bay]

Smart ones see - orbiting blue charges around you and know that you are using Warp Charges not EP 🙂

[plucky flax]

Crusher 3 shots is good enough for me.

[clear heath]

I wouldn't mind a cara increase since they buffed their hp recently
Although i'm not that desperate for it either. it's been doing good for me

[plucky flax]

Right now no crit I think it's 4 shots.

[thin finch]

/wave

[idle bay]

It's hard to not to not-crit with Surge 🙂

[near wyvern]

Until you encounter a six pack and need to deliver around 18 hits if 3 hits each

[idle bay]

How much INNATE crit chance Siblings have?

[strong gulch]

I leveled another character just for a different shirt color.

[near wyvern]

When you can do like 4-6 with one peril meter

[clear heath]

is base crit for psyker itself still 5%?

[plucky flax]

Smite then run away

[round summit]

is smite good?

[idle bay]

CC the whole room - it best CC in the game

[plucky flax]

Its alright it has its usage

[round summit]

where best smite build

[near wyvern]

Yes, but you can play horribly with it and be no use for the team. You gotta learn when and how to use it (which depends from your build).

[west fox]

what should I replace Raking Fire with?

for gun psyker

[near wyvern]

Define best smite build

[clear heath]

i usually only throw out smite like 1-3 times a game
it does help a lot in those rare situations though

It's not like terribly bad or anything to use it more.
I just find that i have better things to do most of the time

[round summit]

objectivly best build all situations ever

[strong gulch]

Omg. I had a game with a vet who blew up 6 times. When they died or went down other times, they clarified that it wasn't from exploding THIS time. 😂

They were fun.

[near wyvern]

@round summit what are you looking for with smite? Mainly using it or a build that uses smite as a specific tool?

[idle bay]

So crit chance: +5% aura + 5% node +5-20% Warp Nexus + ~22% from Critical bonus on Surge staff secondary =** ~37-52%** crit chance Without taking innate crtitical chance (if we have any) ibto account

[arctic nimbus]

Any recommendations for cliffhanger? Had no luck with the small bridge at the start of chasm

[reef apex]

Dude, quills uploaded that shit today, wait a little bit

[orchid shadow]

Hab Dreyko at the end, there's a pit with endless hordes. Vigil station ending section two bridges. Oubliette 1st floor underneath the 1st defense point wide open ledges to shriek mobs off.

[west fox]

any tips on what to replace raking fire with? 1st time using SAP

[arctic nimbus]

Thanks

[copper torrent]

blaze away. or if you wana be mega unnecessarily safe inspiring barrage (there is nothing wrong with that)

[brazen warren]

you can tap ragers/maulers/crushers with smite and release to light stagger them instantly, can come in clutch especially against ragers

[clear heath]

yeah sometimes

[distant roost]

If you use disrupt destiny you can buff that up to 67% 😭

[clear heath]

a lot of the time i just kill them instead

[distant roost]

diff build in terms of equipment tho

[clear heath]

but sometimes there's a horde of like 20 of them all running towards me and i'm cornered and i do appreciate having smite for that

[strong gulch]

Dang. Just leveled another revolver. It has 20% carapace, but just found out the 25% carapace hits a breakpoint on crushers. sad

[glossy ember]

yooo found another use for smite

it's great at lighting up areas in power outage

so you can actually see wtf is happening when there's a mixed horde

[strong gulch]

You can use DD so you can see where enemies are but it keep a secret from everyone else.

[glossy ember]

wallhacks

[fresh reef]

guh

(and we died btw)

[steel flame]

@near wyvern but I neeeeeed all that juicy crit chance baby, you can't really expect me to dump it can you?

[fresh reef]

just dump quell speed and take warp charges

[vale creek]

wich last skill you guys recommend with guns?

[winter siren]

gaze is interesting

the gazyker

[strong gulch]

You mean keystone?

I take DD because warp siphon is so expensive.

[shell igloo]

By skill, do you mean the keystone at the very bottom? In theory, I think you'd want "Disrupt Destiny", but it desperately needs a rework to be viable

[steel flame]

Warp siphon does nothing for guns

DD is amazing not only because of its big finesse damage increase but also for that juicy juicy wallhacks and speed

[shell igloo]

Let me roll that back: I haven't personally tried DD so I don't have an informed opinion. I've just seen some really negative responses to the state of it atm.

[strong gulch]

Ability wise, I take scrier's gaze on laspistol.

On revolver I don't take scrier's because I'm slow af so surgical actually helps.

[steel flame]

People say DD needs a rework to be "viable" but I'ma be honest, I haven't clue what they smokin but I don't want any

[strong gulch]

I do wish marked targets were better/ more consistent.

DD is fun

[steel flame]

That's half the fun

[strong gulch]

Though maybe it's for the best that I don't always see my marks. target priority out the fecking window

lose my mind chasing the stack man

[steel flame]

It's like it's hard to get stacks and keep them

[strong gulch]

but when they hit... WEEEEE

[steel flame]

It just swaps to a new one if they die so I don't sweat it

It's truly excellent in melee too

[obtuse dragon]

what blessings should i be going for on the nomanus surge force staff?

[steel flame]

Cause you can chain dd for days

[strong gulch]

flurry and nexus

[winter siren]

TB can be good for more CC, otherwise flurry and nexus is most used

i run TB and flurry on auric

[steel flame]

Granted I wouldn't really use DD on a staff build cause their finesse damage multipliers are kinda meh outside the crit damage surge does

[winter siren]

if youre using surge you should probs be abusing the EP bug

[steel flame]

Zzzzzzz

[shell igloo]

Well if it's the case that DD is in a decent state, then I've just gotta say I'm quite happy and impressed that truly every Psyker blitz, ability, keystone, and even staff is honestly VIABLE right now

Personally I think BR could still use a little love, but I wouldn't just call it "bad" either.

[steel flame]

Wouldn't mind being able to pop tagged enemies through walls

[steel flame]

They did that with Sienna's new bb staff in vermintide and it's very nice

[fresh reef]

is it possible to parry all of the attacks in a C Spawns four hit chain?

[steel flame]

No clue

Timing would be really tight

Safer to just block with how much damage It can do with that combo

[fresh reef]

true

usually I can see the animation startup and just block

but while practicing the parries, he has a very annoying tendency of getting so close he clips into me

[vale hatch]

i have the dum dum blessing but i can only put it on assault rifle and not on my heavy laspitol is it normal ?

[steel flame]

Blessings are locked to weapon types

[fresh reef]

pulling a blessing only allows you to put it on weapons in the same family

so say you pulled Uncanny Strike off of a Mk 2 Dueling Sword
you can put it on the other two dueling swords, but not on the catachan claw swords despite both families sharing the blessing

[vale hatch]

The crafting/blessing system are such a pain

[glossy ember]

fellas i'll be honest i have no idea if i'm making use of empathic evasion

i'm pretty sure it did help a couple times

[steel flame]

What are you using

[glossy ember]

surge staff

and shred on my melee

so lotsa crits

[steel flame]

It's effects are most noticeable with laspistol

[shell igloo]

I think it sorely needs some improvements. SOME sort of conversion for diamantine/plasteel for instance. But it's also come a LONG way from where we were.

[glossy ember]

does laspistol crit the most

[steel flame]

It has a 45% crit chance if you take every crit chance feat and perk

[glossy ember]

in match seems like I'm at 10% crit rate on ranged, which sounds wrong

[steel flame]

65% with scryer active

[glossy ember]

I should have at least 20% just from the stat on my staff

[glossy ember]

my surge staff is at 20+5+(5~20) => 30~45 crit rate

if I had crit rate aura i'd be at 50

[spice veldt]

i assume it counts all ranged hits

does only the final damage tick crit or do the early and intermediary ticks crit as well?

[glossy ember]

they should all crit

0 peril and 90 peril

oh wait

only the final hit is yellow

no wonder lol

my melee is at 13+(4~20)

also idr who asked me but here's me clumsily tanking plogryn with devil claw without kinetic deflection

[idle bay]

Basic damnation mission. And i always wondering - why so much overkill damage? I'm using Surge + Warp Charges + Smite + DS (no EP)

[severe folio]

what exactly is overkill damage

[strong gulch]

double tap

[idle bay]

When you deal more damage than necessary to kill target.

[willow hazel]

I feel like it counts soulblaze for overkill

[fierce crest]

i feel like DS does a lot of overkill

[idle bay]

Like fully charged and buffed Surge zzap killing poxalwer and dealing way over poxawleker's HP

[severe folio]

i see

[idle bay]

I spam surge.. a LOT. i mean REALLY A LOT

[severe folio]

then rhat means

someone is shooting horde with surge

[fierce crest]

i mean surge does a lot of single target burst as well

[severe folio]

as gods intended

[fierce crest]

if youre hitting groaners and poxwalkers with it

especially if your charging it

[willow hazel]

yeah thats like 500 overkill each time

[idle bay]

Well for horde i'm using LMB spam - more effective 🙂

[severe folio]

clearly not if your overkill damage is raking up

[strong gulch]

OH. I was wondering why I wasn't getting any perilous combustion procs.

I didn't have it selected.

[idle bay]

Mostly on mixed spawns when some basic zombies get fried... taking stay surges

[severe folio]

what is DS

[steel flame]

What blitz are you using

[spice veldt]

nintendo DS

[idle bay]

Dueling Sword

[hoary leaf]

anyone else noticed the Crucian Vowguard cosmetic is messed up in the player Portrait?

[severe folio]

maybe its from the dueling sword ?

are you heavy stabbing the horde ?

[hoary leaf]

looks like a Maybeline commercial

[severe folio]

what is that

[fresh reef]

bro got the knockoff psi-veil

[royal falcon]

it's that one overpriced psyker helmet in the premium shop rn

[severe folio]

anyone have a picture of it ?

[hoary leaf]

yeah I caved for that cause I liked it but I noticed that in the portrait and found it hilarious

[steel flame]

Surge has massive crits, like 1k a pop

[severe folio]

can you send pic

[severe folio]

ahh

[fierce crest]

oh thats nice

shame i hate crusades aesthetics for my own characters

[idle bay]

Only few frames left to unlock.
1 million kills will take some time. I'm only few thousands from 500000 kills.

[hoary leaf]

I would love for them to add more cosmetics in game, more as in not just color swaps in the one store, maybe 2 or 3 styles, they can save the really cool ones for the shop but something else to work towards would be nice

[fierce crest]

yeah so many of the Dockets cosmetics are awful

[idle bay]

I would like them to have a massive store not just pathetic 3 pages per character on slow rotation

[severe folio]

pfft if theyre that smart then this game would have been flying colors

[fierce crest]

which is weird cuz the pennance ones are p good

[surreal pewter]

Dang what armor is that

[severe folio]

think thats penance armor

[hoary leaf]

yeah those ones I have few complaints on, think theres like 2 I dont like but a few more non real money ones would be cool

[surreal pewter]

Ah.....the monstrosity one?

[fierce crest]

and then theres a cool pennance cosmetic that you can pay real money for a worse version

[severe folio]

or ordos armor

[severe folio]

have to check again

[west fox]

thanks!

[surreal pewter]

Side note, is Deflector a meme option or like, actually good?

[fierce crest]

its good its just not damage

[surreal pewter]

Curious cause I feel like running a Stamina Psyker XD

[hoary leaf]

yup

[fierce crest]

then you should run a DS

[severe folio]

it helps you stand ground against daemonhost

[surreal pewter]

Ah I figured it would be that one

[idle bay]

It gives a good feeling if used properly. But really it's a gimmik 🙂 If you are about Blessing not skill node

[surreal pewter]

My idea as well

[severe folio]

and

[fierce crest]

duel sword is the way to go

[severe folio]

it also help against gunners

[fierce crest]

much tankier

[surreal pewter]

But I like the Blaze sword

[fierce crest]

but then obviously cant block shooters

[hoary leaf]

gunners can be a run killer with out a good vet

so deflector is a nice option

[severe folio]

problem is if youre holding a surge staff

high chance youre at high peril

and deflector will need you to quell down before effective

[spice veldt]

you can always block with your stamina in a pinch

[surreal pewter]

+9 Stamina tho

[spice veldt]

and spam dodges for some ranged i-frames

[severe folio]

dodge is

the sliding right ?

[shell igloo]

I feel compelled to run deflector with my purg-BB loadout. Otherwise I can end up completely helpless against gunners/shooters

[spice veldt]

spacebar

[severe folio]

oh

[spice veldt]

well, sliding also gives ranged i-frames

so that works

[hoary leaf]

yeah I know that feeling

[severe folio]

i see

[hoary leaf]

running my Ogryn weekly rn and my teams keep getting wiped cause I am not getting any vets to save the day

i can only take so many bullets before I need to find my box of band aids

[severe folio]

vet blocked orgyn from their matches

[glossy ember]

smite

[glossy ember]

recolored penance armor, you can buy it from shop.

[fierce crest]

become gungryn

[shell igloo]

Anyone else feel like there's an abnormally high chance of getting matched with the people running the same career/loadout?? It's like I rarly see Ogryns unless I'm Ogryn. If I play my Psyker? Gonna be 2 other psykers.

[glossy ember]

The monstrosity one is a cool dark and red color set but i wanted my psyker blue themed

[severe folio]

no

[surreal pewter]

Oh, nice

Black looks good tho

[glossy ember]

yeah black looks OP

[severe folio]

was sad that i have no shovel for psyker with the krieg outfit

turns out krieg calvary have sabers

[glossy ember]

oh but forgot to mention the helmet is cash shop

krieg alt helmet i think

yea

this one looks nice too tho

[shell igloo]

This one looks like a refrigerator cosplay

[old citrus]

is the MK V duelling sword any good or is still all about the MK 4 stabbies

[glossy ember]

shame no ice staff

[hoary leaf]

Did run a match with 4 zealots once

[deft moss]

Needs more purity seals

[hoary leaf]

Lots of shouting

[hoary leaf]

Ohh thatd be cool

[glossy ember]

figured there'd be one, with the whole "the warp is cold" thing

[severe folio]

probably because

there isnt a lot of ice related warp disciplines

is there ?

actually there is an ice-ish psyker thing

maybe assail is the ice warp deal

lol

[hoary leaf]

Eh tbey can make it whateveR they want it to be yeah? Its a reflection of what is felt in the matetial realm so RAINBOW SKITTLES STAFF SOON PLZ

[severe folio]

how about we twist your testicles

[hoary leaf]

Oh thats a good call, never thought much about the "Shards" but that could count as ice

And if not then they can give us an earth bender staff

[severe folio]

theres a wiki on psyker discipline

on what most psyker use the warp for

astronomy is a disciple, its clairvoyant

now that, if theres somehow a staff for that

[shell igloo]

OK so "astronomy" is a, uh, beam sniper. And the secondary is a faerie fire effect that debuffs enemies in a cone. Or vice versa.

Or shit--maybe I've just described a great skittles rainbow staff

[steel flame]

That's why your ranged crit rate is low, smite don't crit

[glossy ember]

I don't use smite that much though but since it has so many hits, makes sense.

[hoary leaf]

my hero

[deft moss]

Iirc some of the old Space Wolf psyker powers were v similar to Kislev's Lore of Ice

[severe folio]

inquisitor eisenhorn has jedi mindtrick with his warp power

maybe we can do that, now that fatshark learnt how to create friendly enemies

[fresh reef]

sigh

[shell igloo]

Catch me with a squad of converted Crusher simps at my back

[old citrus]

current patch thoughts on the duelling swords? The 2-4-5?

[hoary leaf]

makes sense, cold planet, ice powers

[severe folio]

wait a monute…

[shell igloo]

Real Asian Robot did a great breakdown I'd recommend. He likes the Mk IV and I concur. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk3JdrTuFtE&t=800s&ab_channel=RealAsianRobot

[hoary leaf]

what are those orange numbers?

[old citrus]

ill have a peek thank you!

[severe folio]

isnt all of the class in darktide

pyskers all of them ?

[deft moss]

nah

[severe folio]

are you sure

they all seem to perform

psykerish abilities

[deft moss]

heroic abilities and feats =/= psyker powers that draw on the warp

[severe folio]

because they dont generate perils ?

[deft moss]

because they're unrelated entirely

and because they're entirely unrelated, they don't generate perils or anything else

[reef apex]

@near wyvern Hey dude, sorry for botherin ya, but they told me you have some sick smite builds

[severe folio]

so youre teling me the zealot raising the inquisition relic and screamming, staggering everyone around them, or turning invisible

is not a psychic power

but a

heroic ability

[fierce crest]

@inquisitor grendyl

this heretic right here

[deft moss]

it's kind of like Bretonnian Virtues that let a Knight slay a dragon in one fell stroke,

[severe folio]

i dont think thats quite comparable ?

i mean, chastise the wicked would be comparable

but the other 2

[deft moss]

those are superhuman abilities or fears that aren't magic and aren't resisted like it, or whatever else

[shell igloo]

Those are definitely remarkable abilities you could give a psyker and it would also make sense. But, lore-wise, no they aren't ACTUALLY psychic abilities.

[fresh reef]

prestige numbers

the amount of XP needed to fully level to 30

[reef apex]

Bretonnian virtues are just being french, and thats not a virtue

[severe folio]

so theyre superhuman abilities

that doesnt related to the warp

we just have people turn invisible

because they can

[deft moss]

Well, less invisible and more hiding amongst the confusion of a firefight

[fierce crest]

:)

invoking the emporer has nothing to do with warp powers

:)

[severe folio]

the emporer is a psyker

[shell igloo]

I don't think you're supposed to think about it too much. Cause like how can your character just die horrifically and then only be tied up in the next room waiting for rescue

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[scenic crescent]

what blessings are best for voidstrike?

[severe folio]

Surge and warp nexus

or you can pick the surge and exorcist

depend on your purple talent

[scenic crescent]

gotcha. is warp resist the dump stat?

[left turtle]

that las pistol worth snatchin up?

[severe folio]

mobility

[severe folio]

yes

[scenic crescent]

voidstrike staffs dont have mobility? or am i dumb lol

[severe folio]

then

[lethal folio]

Shroud field generators are a thing.

[severe folio]

i forgor what are its stats

[severe folio]

are they cheap

[lethal folio]

probably not.

[harsh urchin]

Staves kinda want everything

[left turtle]

what weapon is typically paired with Scriers Gaze

[severe folio]

would you give it to an accolade

[harsh urchin]

Warp res and quell can be a bit lower

But obviously bigger is better on all

[shell igloo]

Gun

[severe folio]

warp resist as dump stat it is

[scenic crescent]

gotcha, thanks!

[left turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-seriously-golden-girls-blinking-confused-gif-850647957346982291

[severe folio]

i recently pair it with purg

[lethal folio]

You can do silly things with voidstrike and transfer peril scriers

[left turtle]

ive never ran Scriers Gaze, gonna try it out

[severe folio]

yes

[lethal folio]

or just general lclick staff spam with surge+nexus

[severe folio]

shoot, kill headshot, quell peril

keep scrier up

[left turtle]

What about a laspistol

[shell igloo]

The 5 Psyker ranged weapons: Purg, Trauma, Void, Surge, and Gun

[bleak tulip]

these never go well

[hoary leaf]

What is that prestige thing? Im still a scrub that struggles in normal Heresy difficulty

[wary sleet]

i feel like ive been seeing some really fuckin strong surge staves. unless im missing it, i swear they are nearly instant killing alot of specalists. there a build that makes them strong as hell? or just perks/blessings

[hoary leaf]

Its a bug

[wary sleet]

ah rip and here i was thinking i was sleeping on a strong staff

[hoary leaf]

The perk that used to give us unlimited power now works on the Surge staff

[shell igloo]

There's a bug right now where the "+125% dmg" from empowered psionics applies to Surge staff as well as Smite, and the staff does NOT consume charges.

[wary sleet]

aaah. gotcha

[hoary leaf]

So you can 1 shot most elites with surge staff now

[left turtle]

Huh. Must be coded as the same type of projectile

[wary sleet]

yeah i was thinking that too yeah

[hoary leaf]

Of course since it is in the name of the Emperor it is allowed forever

Thats what most people are speculating, that surge and smite count as the same damage type so the grenade buffs are essentially on a staff now

So we have new unlimited power for the emperor

[shell igloo]

Grenade staff when though?

[hoary leaf]

They made that already

[wary sleet]

wonder how theyll go about fixing it. idk how easy it would be to create a new damage type that is basically the same. only different in name

[hoary leaf]

Might be easy to code it so it only sees smite as a trigger instead of the damage from it? No idea, thinking on what I typed I feel that would make it way weaker and break it in a new way

[shell igloo]

I want a staff that costs 100 peril and lobs psychic ogryn frag bombs

[wary sleet]

thats what im thinking. they will try that but it may break smite or surge. or both

[left turtle]

What blessings to throw on laspistol, Its got Infernus and Dumdum on it rn

or are those both good to keep

[spice veldt]

prob just check what weapon you're holding

[hoary leaf]

I forgot what I got on mine but mine is spec'd for a zealot so different needs

[wary sleet]

i know thats a general weapon, not specifically psyker. i wonder if the vets may know better?

[hoary leaf]

They are both good tho so no need to trash one if you dont have anything better

[hoary leaf]

It does change a bit betwren classes thanks to talent trees but yeab those should have a universal "Good" list

[wary sleet]

on a psyker. maybe run n gun and dumdum are fine?

[left turtle]

everything ive heard, Infernus is a staple on it

[wary sleet]

i actually nevr used it so idk if it can benefit from reassuringly accurate. plus your hoping on crits for that

[left turtle]

maybe not for psyker

[wary sleet]

dum dum isnt a bad one then. or run n gun if you need to shoot something while running

[left turtle]

Question, Does Reality Achor affect Scriers Gaze itsself?

[spice veldt]

dumdum also stacks on DoT ticks (like burn) so there's that

[hoary leaf]

Man I swear this game knows what I am after, have gotten a staff with good blessings in Melks all week

[wary sleet]

cant imagine why not

[left turtle]

anything to change on this?

[old citrus]

my personal preference would be switch dumdum to ghost and specialists to crit chance

[severe folio]

specialist to maniac maybe

[left turtle]

since im specifically running this iwth SCriers gaze, Crit chance actually sounds like a good idea

[wary sleet]

gonna try disrupt destiny too and go full gunner psyker?

[left turtle]

ye

[old citrus]

i know the old thing was to have infernus uptick dumdum but honestly its not a problem to keep it stacked in fights and ghosts saves my bacon a ton and lets me do some things i shouldnt be able to (i.e, just walk out in the open toward shooter hordes)

[severe folio]

oh yeah

[left turtle]

unfortunately i only have level 2 Ghost banked rn

[severe folio]

flame tick keep dum dum up lol

[wary sleet]

hmm..just realized. do psykers get the recon lasgun or was that a vet only

[severe folio]

yes we do

[old citrus]

not exclusive ye

[severe folio]

no its not as good as it is in vet hand

vet get that free ammo crit

we dont

[left turtle]

well, patch 14 gutted that

[wary sleet]

infernus on a recon lasgun and then running True Aim for the garanteed crit every 5 shots.

[left turtle]

can recon get infernus?

[severe folio]

what did patch 14 do

[wary sleet]

apparently nerfed it pretty bad

[old citrus]

crit string on recon went from 2 to 5

[severe folio]

think every lasgun can get infernus

[old citrus]

which made the infinite ammo thing poopoo

[severe folio]

interesting

[left turtle]

Stormtrooper has some Asterisk to it now where it can't get infinite ammo anymore

and its damage has been cut across the board

its pretty dookie now

[severe folio]

i see

i guess have to settle with hellbore vet then

[left turtle]

vets on suicide watch rn cause of it

[severe folio]

BUT THATS A VET TALK

i primary play graia IAG anyway

[left turtle]

Plasma gun BB

[wary sleet]

i recently got a lvl4 onslaught so im a helbore gamer for now

[left turtle]

patch 14 made it feel nice