psyker-class

[brave fiber]

got it

should be super easy to get em tho, theres so few blessings for both staffs

unless youre only settling for t4

[marble locust]

Melk's been giving me for like 3 weeks no staves with teir 4 blessings, and I've made I think 20k of plasteel Purga staves only to keep getting the other dumb blessings

[brave fiber]

my philosophy is that t3 is good enough and t4s are a pipe dream

[brave fiber]

RIP

[heady garnet]

this is literally the worst thing that's happened to me ever

assail psyker tearing through everything then aggroing a demon host with one

gagh

[marble locust]

Go high intensity, and justr keep BBing

[potent echo]

Forcing a T4 takes a heck of alot of plasteel yea

[marble locust]

You are basically elite killer doing that but it should be easy. If you have hard time finding target you can go the dumb mark stuff for me spec to mark mobs

I hate that BB can't crit btw

[potent echo]

You will need to first mass buy from brunt and mainly upgrade 370~ or higher

[heady garnet]

ogyrn 2 zealot and me

wish me luck 😭

[marble locust]

Oh done that, and Hadron says Do you want Terrifing barrage 4 you really want terrifing barrage (which doesn't work on alot of mobs)

[potent echo]

And when it works it only works for half a second

[marble locust]

I find about as useful as Blaze away on the Rumbler or Kickback (the longer you keep firing the more damage it does.... on a single shot weapon.....)

[potent echo]

What

BA is crazy strong

[marble locust]

But not on the kickback

[lunar hollow]

u just cant run lucky bullet with kickback rn because the reload instantly drops BA stacks

[potent echo]

If you run glugger kickback it's BiS

[lunar hollow]

same with gunlugger ult reload

it'll drop ur BA stacks

[potent echo]

Lucky bullet in general is

[marble locust]

I like full Bore but you have to point blank that on bosses.

[potent echo]

Full bore first shot, press F, spam lmb

Not rumbler boss dps but respectable

Also works well in high pressure situations

[marble locust]

Gunlugger with Rumbler/Lucky shot is silly. Everything keeps falling down I want to sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc&ab_channel=ChumbawambaVEVO when I use it.

[potent echo]

But for a general use taunt/charge ogryn you would want surgical

Some people advocate surgical/BA but I would just make 2 different kickbacks

[marble locust]

Expansive is an insane boost it self but you get what 1 attack with it (42% melee power for 3.5 seconds)

[potent echo]

Yea.. and it's timed so I don't think you get to reload first before taking a swing

If they made it charges which you can spend anytime it would make it feel alot better

[marble locust]

I wish the default ui could display a total stat table instead of everything individualized

[dapper dove]

It's been a few weeks, whyyyy does my surge staff do that purple explosion now I don't like how it looks please get rid of it thx

[frank fulcrum]

how does surge work for the secondary fire or does it just not at all?

[marble locust]

Surge only does stuff for the charged attack on the Void Staff

[frank fulcrum]

do blessings obtained for one type of staff work for all?

[marble locust]

Nope it was a pita to get surge on the void

[frank fulcrum]

[wind wadi]

That's so L

[marble locust]

I wish it did count across staves as I need warp nexus on Flamer and surge but can't get it to drop.

[pliant goblet]

Anyone know good maps to get the cliffhanger penance

[worthy dune]

What's good to have for curio perks? Gun Resist / Sniper Resist / Stamina Regen / Block efficiency? or sumn else

[steel flame]

i love when a player first stands in front of me and doesnt turn around as a doggo eats my face for a total of half my health, then leaves me in a net right in front of him for about 30 seconds, and then gets me up just in time to get blown up by a poxburster he shoots, and then rezzes me right into another poxburster, killing me

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

some people deserve to be executed

goddam hertics

[potent echo]

What why

[crisp yacht]

Stam regen, block, and ordo dockets is bis.

[rotund dagger]

Ordo Dockets/ Experience / Gunner Resist

Cuz fuck Curio Chance

[wind wadi]

That means it's a dead blessing on trauma

[heady garnet]

Lowkey feel like i'm inting my team not used my ability

[dapper dove]

Does anyone else not like the new purple "gibbing" on the surge staff kills

That should of stayed as a smite thing

Really don't like that

[tawny pebble]

I do wish they had different colors, yeah

[dapper dove]

The big ass mist of purple is not visual I enjoy

It's blinding

Is it a bug?

[potent echo]

It works on the lmb bubble

[tawny pebble]

Did it just happen with the newest patch? my memory is failing me

[dapper dove]

This makes me believe is 9 days old

[potent echo]

Yea patch 14 added it

[dapper dove]

Pleaseeee get rid of it

99% of my hours are with surge staff

I don't like the mist

Keep that with smite

Idk why it moved over

[paper maple]

whats the build on a revolver?

[potent echo]

They like it probably

[dapper dove]

How does blue lightning turn into purple mist

[potent echo]

Main talent is true aim for ranged builds, you can take any keystone/F/blitz

[paper maple]

oh yeah sorry i just meant for the blessings/perks

[weak sapphire]

Is smite still affecting surge staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes 😦

I just want to run my smite/surge build

Let me be a sith

[weak sapphire]

its the blitz abilities that jump over to the surge staff right?

[wind wadi]

Surgical/handcannon. Idk the perk breakpoints for psyker

[paper maple]

ty!

[vapid lichen]

i just read the tech part in the guide and quell cancelling is broken as fuck holy

[vague kayak]

Assail: I haven't done much testing alongside actually paying attention. A number of shards have a tendency to be purple, as opposed to blue when thrown out. Was this part a part of some perk synergy that I've just never paid attention to? Is it just a random chance for enhanced functionality i.e. increased crit chance, or entirely just a visual thing?

[tawny pebble]

I too yearn for unlimited power

[spice veldt]

purple indicates that the shard is a crit

[tawny pebble]

But a part of me wishes I could build a better Trauma staff

Or one that can compete with Nomanus/Purgatus

[steel flame]

welcome to the world of QC

congrats

[vapid lichen]

time to play some missions with void strike

i got a really good rhythm down for it after practicing for a bit in the meat grinder

[tawny pebble]

Or...I guess, is Trauma even worth using in Heresy/Damnation, let alone Auric?

[tawny pebble]

I do like the results on Voidstrike, decent splash and commendable single target charged

but trauma and nomanus are just the most fun to me

[vapid lichen]

the lmb fire rate is like a solid idk maybe 1.3-1.5x faster this is absurd

[spice veldt]

sure

[wooden flare]

Trauma is fun to use

[tawny pebble]

I agree

big boom

[wooden flare]

Slam staff down for funny boom

[spice veldt]

what problems are you having with the trauma?

besides bad stats

[tawny pebble]

makes me feel like an ogryn

[wooden flare]

Real men do melee Psyker with a staff

[tawny pebble]

you know, maybe I just need to give it another whirl now that I'm fully at 30

I struggled a lot up to 15 or so and then went Nomanus

[spice veldt]

it does have one of the largest stat scalings in the game

e.g., charge rate scales from 2.5 seconds to 1 second

[tawny pebble]

oh dang

[spice veldt]

and blast radius from 1.5m to 2.5m on the epicentre

[vapid lichen]

having a well built staff is so nic e

[spice veldt]

so it'll prob feel quite a bit better with better stats

[tawny pebble]

hmm

Do I dare go to the armory for it and hope Hadron favors me

or wait for Melk's inventory to refresh

hm, not half bad

[naive imp]

PSA: purg staff fucks everyone over

please stop using it.

that is all

[spice veldt]

no

go fuck yourself

[vapid lichen]

what's wrong with purg staff

[naive imp]

lol

[vapid lichen]

i havent built a purg staff myself yet but it's next on the list
and i havent seen any issues with it messing me up when i get psykers that have it in my games

[spice veldt]

tbf psykers aren't going to really get punished by purg's blinding nature unless you're running a gun

but it's also in people's realm of control to turn off bloom

[vapid lichen]

oh my settings are all on the minimum because i have a potato pc lol

no wonder

[spice veldt]

sucks that you can't see with a certain graphics option on, but it's something that you can do on your end if you have a problem with flamethrowers

and it's a player issue if they're just spamming it constantly and everywhere

people constantly disliking builds instead of the players doing bad shit

[naive imp]

visibility is a huge concern

coupled with the fact that it's not doing anything

a void staff would delete the shit

instead of blind people

[spice veldt]

the purg staff does do something

just because you don't see the effect immediately doesn't mean it does nothing

i will always say this--hate the player, not the weapon or build or whatever

i don't get why people jump to disliking a weapon instead of the shitters who use it

and people always wanting other people to play the meta

[steel flame]

arco endorses my hatred of arco

[spice veldt]

i am the greatest merchant of it

[steel flame]

lol

[spice veldt]

god forbid people play what they want instead of conforming to your standards of optimality

[steel flame]

man i got so pissed earlier tonight

[naive imp]

standards of being able to see?

lol

[spice veldt]

turn off bloom

download the mod to change flamethrower effects

[naive imp]

bro it is off

it's 2023

[spice veldt]

block players, unless you've used up all of the slots since the limit is fairly low

i don't really have a problem seeing through the flames

[stone spindle]

heres hoping for a decent roll on the final blessing

[spice veldt]

just shoot enemies through flamer/bomber fire in the psykhanium and learn how their model/stance is like from a particular direction

[stone spindle]

if I get something good for the final blessing, I can make the rest of it work

[paper maple]

it is annoyingly blindingly bright without the custom flames mod lol

[steel flame]

@spice veldt this ogryn just left me on the ground under a dog till half my health was gone before he decided to knock it off, then he dodged and i got cought by the net meant for him, then he sat there and shot people for like 20 seconds while i sat on the ground in front of him in a net, only for him to finally pick me up right into a pox burster explosion, he then rezzed directly into a second poxburster explosion and and i nearly committed a murder on my desk

[paper maple]

but its so easy to install mods

[spice veldt]

or just stay away from your team

having to make playstyle changes to accomodate the variability of pubs 😔

or playing with premades

[naive imp]

wait wait wait

[potent echo]

Actually the best path to success

[naive imp]

there's a flame mod? lol

[potent echo]

Yea you can change the colour too

[spice veldt]

your desk is sweating

[naive imp]

fuckin a

[paper maple]

yeah custom flames, its fucking great

[stone spindle]

what do I want on this?

[paper maple]

i cant play without it tbh lol

[paper maple]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/157

[dapper dove]

Support my cause plz ❤️
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/very-unpleased-with-smite-gibbing-on-surge-staff/85945?u=alyx117

[paper maple]

also highly reccommend https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/230

[cinder wing]

purg staff fucks, i get tons of kills with mine, plus the stagger on it is pretty good, can usually hold back a horde for the rest of my team with it if needed

[prime cairn]

is leveling a psyker harder than the other classes or do i just suck

[paper maple]

easier tbh.. just run shards

[wise ruin]

anyone has a decent purgatus build?

[naive imp]

the stagger is almost worse than the blinding light

it disables weakspots for ranged and melee for your team. lol

[cinder wing]

I main psyker and even i hate shards

[paper maple]

lol its just easy mode, i switched to smite for more of a challenge

[spice veldt]

most purg psykers just spam RMB, so the stagger hasn't been a concern for me

[naive imp]

that works for all flame?

[cinder wing]

thats why i dont always use it lol its a tool to create space for my team if we need it

[naive imp]

or just zealot?

[spice veldt]

both purgatus and flamer

[paper maple]

the second one is just for zealot fire nades, change it to nurgle slime so you're not standing there going uhh is this safe fire or bad fire lol

[naive imp]

ty ty

much love

[paper maple]

❤️

[tawny pebble]

yeah i'm pretty judicious with my use of purg

[spice veldt]

i pretty much just only use the purg's LMB to assist my melee and RMB for groaner/poxwalker and mixed hordes

the RMB's boring otherwise and I like my melee playstyles

[queen trout]

heres what i run with purg but i tend to go all in on one aspect for my builds so its probably not the best

i use flak and unarmored so i can kill any shooters with my full peril vent

[wise ruin]

aight thx

[uncut leaf]

you literally cant fuck it up, just run left side

lmao i fucked it up

[acoustic osprey]

does anybody take a knife to just loot faster?

[paper maple]

tfw ur team mates are all 50m ahead of you and not a single crate has been opened

[acoustic osprey]

i don't get why they ping to hurry instead of opening the crate literally next to the elevator

[open crag]

do force sword alt clicks count as warp attacks?

[queen trout]

yes i think

[fair vale]

First staff I bought
this any good?

[lethal lagoon]

Which mod to show weapons in lobby so I can avoid surge buggers?

[queen trout]

not bad, hopefully rng is kind to you

[fair vale]

I just need to get the plasteel to upgrade it
used it all on my Ogrn

Any blessings I should aim for?

[lethal lagoon]

Flurry and Nexus are the safe ones. Beyond that it's meme terroritory.

[queen trout]

the soul blaze on crit is well liked ive heard

or the brittleness stacks one

[tawny pebble]

i'm using brittleness at the moment

but the soulblaze is tempting

[stone spindle]

alrighty, what should I do with this

[queen trout]

id swap exorcist to either the soulblaze on crit/slaughterer/deflector and maybe unyieldiing to flak but thats optional

[stone spindle]

heck yeah, melk is selling one with a blazing spirit 4 for me ro rip off

[queen trout]

blazing will help with bosses which illisi isnt the best for

unles your running purg then its not necessary

[stone spindle]

I am running purg

but could maybe run something different then on this

maybe slaughter or deflector

[feral seal]

What staff would y'all pick for a smite/dome build not running EP?

[queen trout]

surge is pretty good

[worthy dune]

[shrewd comet]

is the surge staff dmg bonus still a thing?

[steel flame]

can somebody confirm this

[feral seal]

Game answered it for me I guess

[steel flame]

flurry doesnt seem to be working on trauma staff

[feral seal]

Not... Amazing but last blessing has potential

[steel flame]

i cannont get it to come up no matter what i try and it was working before the last hotfix

[queen trout]

if the last blessing is good then you could swap run n gun and +elite and be golden

[steel flame]

......

this man needs to meet jesus

[worthy dune]

Ladies and gentlemen it rolled sustained fire

If the t4 rolls something good I might be able to save it cause I have warp nexus but we'll see

[heady garnet]

4 psyker auric damnation

all running different staffs and talents

[steel flame]

i mean.....

[heady garnet]

it was so clean

[steel flame]

4 psyker is best comp

[stone spindle]

4 ogryn has ammo sustain problems

[heady garnet]

im so converted

[stone spindle]

4 psychers?

no problem

[heady garnet]

we carried around an ammo box we found 2 minutes in for shits and giggles

[kind jay]

it me!

[heady garnet]

OMG REALLY

[heady garnet]

=0

dude zero damage taken is bonkers

[kind jay]

it pays the bills

[heady garnet]

All of us taking care of a seperate issue when the plague ogyrn spawned

chefs kiss

[kind jay]

"uwu" is also my wife. i tell her to grab boss and sit in a corner spamming devil claw parry

and i clear horde. usually lets the other 2 do their thing

[heady garnet]

aw thats so cute

my bf plays vet and only vet lol

it's the fps gamer in him

tell her she popped the fuck off

[ionic sorrel]

Y'all, I made a stupid Assail build, but it was fun.

[ionic sorrel]

Emotional support ammo crate

[heady garnet]

that's so glass canon and blursed i love it

[heady garnet]

snacks

[brittle pollen]

I tried my best ;A;

[ionic sorrel]

It's my new, I'm gonna farm plasteel build.

[heady garnet]

Dude it was crazy how well you handled the boss

[ionic sorrel]

Oh, I had a revolver

it was a beast and I just hit the yellow thing.

[heady garnet]

the revolver is so addicting

[feral seal]

Well, what do I change? Not gonna be a god weapon but still good

[small whale]

both blesssings

warp flurry and the brittlnees one

[feral seal]

What would you recommend?

[vernal arrow]

Do you need to run Empowered Psionics with Smite or is it really just a freeze frame device?

[feral seal]

Smite is great with warp charges and jjust going support

[vernal arrow]

Just feels a bit weak from playing around with it by itself right now

[feral seal]

It's extremely strong for cc, don't think of it as a damage tool

It's perfect for stunning the random 10 rager 5 crusher waves

[strong orchid]

do i need to change the reload button to change the button that its used to quell?

[vernal arrow]

Cool cool. I felt like thats gotta be the takeaway but I needed to check to make sure it's not about to be some field sweeper lol

I do like that you can upgrade it so everything locked by it takes extra damage. I used it with another Psyker running the Purgatus staff and it was diabolical how quick the clear was

[ionic sorrel]

I bet, that's a heck of a combo.

[mellow oracle]

is this good? worth a buy?

[small whale]

yesp

[mellow oracle]

ok upgraded. what do

[ornate hamlet]

Very poggers

I'd change both blessings and slap uncanny strike and slaughterer on it

Could also go for uncanny strike and unstable power, deflector, shred, idk

[near wyvern]

Yeah definitely flip both blessings

[stone spindle]

what should I do to this?

[potent echo]

Change both perks for a canny duelling4, not really recommended

Or change out either riposte or shred for uncanny

[stone spindle]

aye aye

[trail rivet]

can i use the upgraded brain burst to do the old penances

[zinc tartan]

@dapper dove What build are you running for Surge and what stats do you look for on a good one? I am new to the game and I really like the Surge staff.

[ornate hamlet]

Riposte to uncanny strike and sprint efficiency to unyielding is my pick

Dueling swords have a cheap push and that at least benefits from the stamina

Uncanny strike is 🐐 and shred is sustainable doing le funi on big enemies

[viscid matrix]

yes

[silk hawk]

Warp nexus + warp flurry, dmg to unyielding + crit chance or dmg to carapace

Ds mk2 or mk4 as melee, achulus axe mk5 or illisi force sword should work too

BB or assail + warp charges if u play without bug, and smite+empowered psionics if u are a bug abuser

[twilit carbon]

going for a melee crit gaze build.
not optimal, but looking for advice on effectiveness.
ive got this, what should i be looking for to improve on it?

[serene mirage]

What's wrong with Mk4? I like it the most out of all - seemed a nice easy to use weapon.

[potent echo]

Was referring to the blessings, a duelly without uncanny strike is just a canny duelly which is fine

Uncanny duelly is just braindead though, poke everything in the head and it dies

Also boosts boss dps because why not

[glossy ember]

boneless duelly

[glossy hazel]

Heavy Force Sword.
Bro, why is the class that prefers not to use melee gets a two handed sword but zealot doesnt.

[spice veldt]

tbf we haven't gotten it yet either

[near wyvern]

Change of sword, Illisi has more cleave and less damage per strike so you actually have a chance for that Blazing Spirit. If the target is killed by the crit you get no blaze.

If you really want to go gaze melee take an exorcist slaughterer illisi

[viscid matrix]

Zealots do have a 2handed sword, the Eviscerator

[twilit carbon]

thank you kindly.

[glossy hazel]

I want a proper fahken claymore to fit the scottish voice ye gobshite

[near wyvern]

WDYM you use melee for movement, mutants and monstrosities.

Occasionally for Crushers if you have uncanny strike as well.

[twilit carbon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Sword
the most prolific sword in Scottish history was actually hobbled together from parts of other swords

id suggest ripping an ogryn helmet off and using that as the guard. youll get better bludgeoning out of it

That, and Tyr sacrificed one of his hands. How do you intend to use a two handed beastly claymore if you only got one hand?

[glossy hazel]

Yea, sure. But if the melee focused class doesnt get a two handed sword before or when that one releases I'm gonna go coocoo crazy

[viscid matrix]

tbh they have the Thammer, they dont need a normal sword

[twilit carbon]

yeah. you guys got a heckin thunder nutter

[glossy hazel]

Two handed power sword, nao

[twilit carbon]

give me a thunder nutter, and ill let you have your two handed width-the-size-of-my-head-guard claymore

sharing is caring bro

[glossy hazel]

I'm an avid advocate that shovel, heavy sword and dueling sword should be available to all human classes

[spice veldt]

no

no one else gets the drip

oh well heavy sword

hmm

[twilit carbon]

i dont want some pooper scooper. what am i going to do? fling warp goo?

[glossy hazel]

You already do with assail

[twilit carbon]

thats magic missle, bud. know your Dungeons and Dragons reference xD

[glossy hazel]

Nice JO crystals bro

You charging peril with the bros?

[twilit carbon]

ill charge your peril any day, bro ❤️

[glossy hazel]

Got you heretic

[tall trout]

anyone know if powered up illisi strikes count as warp-based damage?

[twilit carbon]

ill lay heresy all over you. just let me know when (uwu)

[twilit carbon]

they do.

[spice veldt]

ye it counts as a warp attack

it'll proc soulstealer and benefit from mettle/perfect timing

[glossy hazel]

Forgive me Emperor, I must go all out, just this once.

[olive ember]

Oh that bug is still in the game?

[twilit carbon]

i was really hoping you wouldnt go all edge lord lol

i was having fun xD

[tall trout]

so im assuming i cant stack malefic momentum with illisi then?

[spice veldt]

not with the special attacks, but you can with the normals

[twilit carbon]

what you do is kill creatures with light attacks, then use empowered strike on a special/elite

you capitalize on efficiency, and maximize burst damage when you need it

in essence, weave your lights and empowers, and youll be golden

[orchid shadow]

I can die a happy Psyker now. Finally had my first proper High-Damnation-scramble-around-half-the-level-team-revive-clutch as a Surge user.

[olive ember]

…

… congrats

[hearty dagger]

WHEN WHERE HOW I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT

[orchid shadow]

Well, I'm a mediocre player, so it was a rush for me. 😛

[glossy ember]

wait a minute

isn't this kinda good

[tame venture]

yeah

[hearty dagger]

24% warp resistance momento

[glossy ember]

i do one enhanced swing and instantly explode

[hearty dagger]

The sword equivalent of "I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME. IT IS A GOOD PAIN."

[glossy ember]

do I bother rolling it once more when I get more plasteel

it's either break or make depending on what I get

[tall trout]

that mobility roll doesnt give you max dodge limit ... its compost

[glossy ember]

oh

F

[tall trout]

kinda important on a melee

[glossy ember]

yeah for sure

[tall trout]

for most weapons the breakpoint for dodge limit is 50% btw

[glossy ember]

i just saw big numbers and brain went ooo shiny

[blazing echo]

I have my concerns about this

[bleak tulip]

this never goes well in my experience

also two purgs

[burnt island]

Delicious.

[sturdy dagger]

Lay off my boy purge

[bleak tulip]

YELLOW EVERYBODY

also im not shitting on purg, Im shitting on the lv200 not realizing dual purg is shit and not changing

[sturdy dagger]

Ah but you see

Level 200 means he is betterz therefore the new player HAS 2 switch

[bleak tulip]

I dont expect anything from a lv 27, let alone that they have more than one loadout

[glossy ember]

dripped out

[idle bay]

I reached 1500 missions mark tonight.... and still want to play more. Dammit Fatshark.. even your karking Krafting Casino can't stop me playing your game this time. I want more...

[sturdy dagger]

Fartshark gameplay is just addicting

No pve game does it like this

[idle bay]

Purging heretics in 40k setting - Hell yeah!

Yes. Threw Hadron through airlock

[bleak tulip]

that thing is bricked all over

tragic

I guess speedload is not entirely trash but its not what I'd call good

everything else is awful

eat it for speedload I guess

[idle bay]

Psykers can use Plamagun. To have 2 ways to explode themselfs. Also Plasma is beyond OP now

I'll trade one eye and bothe testicles of Veterean and zealot to have plasma on Psyker

[slate sun]

So ... I decided to give Ogryn a go, after spending a couple hundred games playing psyker only.
...Since they nerfed most of the kit I was using and I threw a tantrum...
I gave the ogryn my old loadout, configured the tree in like 5 minutes
and

1. everything works great on damnation
2. I'm immortal
3. I'm prepared to fight hordes / elites / whatever
4. Even in gun lugger setup I've got god-like melee

so ...

dafuq with that guys?
Did we complain too much throughout the previous patch or what?

[harsh urchin]

yes

[bleak tulip]

ogryn good

[harsh urchin]

ogryn has like 70% toughness DR baseline

and 300 base hp

[bleak tulip]

prob my second fav class to play right now

[slate sun]

it is just bonkers - there is no tradeoff for that

[bleak tulip]

you get vet aggro for being big

but even thats dying down now that half the vets use plasma

[slate sun]

[bleak tulip]

just shoot through the ogryn

[idle bay]

Psyker and Plasma vet can just shoot through ogryn 🙂

[harsh urchin]

yes that's what i'm saying lol

psykers are squishy as fuck

should be a glass cannon

but glass cannon just gets beat

by the fucking tank

that is ogryn

[rose dagger]

Ogryn is overtuned and I'm fine with that

[harsh urchin]

because a cannon made out of steel

is way better

[idle bay]

We just can make less mistakes 🙂 And we can CAPITALIZE on "no mistakes" build

[rose dagger]

Let's complain about psyker more

[bleak tulip]

BB bad - #psyker-class 2022-2023

[blazing echo]

3 deaths, was kinda rough

[idle bay]

Then we get waves of post "nerf Assail"

And Assail was burfed in the end 🙂

[slate sun]

and so they nerf voidstrike, trash assail, cause psyker is meant to what ... do CC only?
Voidstrike does much less than a gun lugger even without pimping out the gun

[idle bay]

Assail pretty much the same really.

[slate sun]

I mean - I have gear from July on my ogryn

it should be crap

[idle bay]

And we still have all the Surge related bugs

[bleak tulip]

idk void is fine

[rose dagger]

I mean gunlugger with stubber kinda out damages everyone's ranged

[bleak tulip]

probably still the strongest staff

and thats surprisingly not even bias

[rose dagger]

Achlys with fire ult anyway

[idle bay]

And my ogryn.. 226 Toughness (with i don't bother to know what DR) and 400+ health and ability to delete everything. And i don;t even need that health.. realy

Healthstations to fix clipped nailes

[rose dagger]

Voidstrike has no dmg falloff and armor pen

[blazing echo]

Think you getting your Stubbers mixed up, its the Gorgon thats the ranged hipfire sniper, its the Achyls thats the 'flamethrower' bossmelter

[glossy ember]

i love running 90 toughness on oggy

[bleak tulip]

you can still two shot crushers with void my guy

[rose dagger]

Was talking DPS in general, gorgon much better utility and for deleting every elite in sight yea

[bleak tulip]

lets not pretend void is weak or not still kind of overtuned here

[rose dagger]

Achlys has much worse range than a shotgun for whatever reason. Then again shotguns have ludicrous range in this game

[terse saffron]

is void charge CD reduction taking into account a 2nd shield charge being 50% of the cooldown?

[tall trout]

why would you play stubber when you can just play ripper though

[slate sun]

it still being the strongest doesn't make it fine, how many balls do you have to throw at a shotgunner now?
Ogryn evaporates stuff AND it has good control AND it can not die

[bleak tulip]

one

[blazing echo]

you can melt a boss on Damnation in around 6 seconds

[bleak tulip]

you just gotta charge it to 3/4 instead of 50%

which takes .3 seconds longer

[tall trout]

i do that with the ripper too

[rose dagger]

Ripper just got nerfed. Kickback and stubbers reign supreme rn

[slate sun]

and aim for the head

[blazing echo]

Id very much like to see that

[slate sun]

because dakka dakka

[trail thicket]

secondary recommendation for assil ??

just got lvl 30

[bleak tulip]

Im not making an argument ogryn isnt strong, I just dont know what game you're playing where you actually think the psyker nerfs were substantial in any real way

like I think its nice that people dont just bitch about me bringing void anymore because "it got nerfed" but lets be real the damage is still silly

[idle bay]

I urge you, siblings. to try Kickback on Ogryn! It's fun beyond limits of fun. It's like playing Quake 2 with Super Shotgun 🙂

[blazing echo]

as long as you pick Empowered Psionics it will be fine, this is

[bleak tulip]

which I guess is where theyre going, considering plasma now

[idle bay]

In adavance.. knowing that EP + Surge bug will get fixed soon(-ish). I made a damage staking build for Surge that does not dissapoint on damage. Not as as high as with EP though. but more .. much more spammable

[rose dagger]

Void should do a lotta dmg, it charges slowly and is a projectile that requires leading shots on moving targets

Well slow compared to gun and surge

[slate sun]

Previous patch voidstrike could melt everything in front of you and you could rely on it, now it just doesn't work for me as well as it did.
tougher enemies are often still standing so you have to jerk them around while the other team members finish them off
like with trauma
hard to carry pubs after the nerf - at least for me

I don't feel overtuned at all

[rose dagger]

Surge bug and hand cannon assail are the literal broken builds rn

[idle bay]

Just go warp chargers till the end 6 charges (grabbing peril reduction and 4% chance to get charge from any kill by team), Warp rider and Perfect timing. And you have it. Anything along the way is optimal.

[rose dagger]

Not that I encourage exploits/cheese

[bleak tulip]

well I guess I can rest easy knowing there really arent any more void nerfs coming then if thats the average player experience

[harsh urchin]

yeah but if you're not bug abusing

[slate sun]

well I hope not cause I'm not going back to purgatus, no sir

[harsh urchin]

the other builds feel.... pretty average

they're def playable

[blazing echo]

lol I just did to have an exploit free run

[harsh urchin]

but none of them feel -strong- persay

purg feels pretty average

playable but not strong

what else is there

normal surge feels pretty mediocre tbh

(non bug abuse)

[rose dagger]

Trauma with duelling sword is ight

[harsh urchin]

ye i'm sure trauma is alright

[idle bay]

Surge with damage nodes in skill tree with EP have a decent damage

[harsh urchin]

trauma is always pretty reliably solid

well yeah bug abuse surge is strong

[rose dagger]

Can knock a bulwark on their ass then stick a sword in their skull so that's fun

[harsh urchin]

we've established that the bug abuse builds are strong lol

[idle bay]

Strong to the point of being NO FUN to use

it gets boring really fast

[lunar hollow]

i have the most fun running ds4 + a gun w/ scriers

[rose dagger]

Definitely sick of playing with bug abusers

[wise ruin]

What's the hand Cannon assail build?

[lunar hollow]

i personally dont really mind the bugged stuff because u can run a working-as-intended kickback and get 1mil damage in a 23-ish minute game

[idle bay]

Only downside of Kickback - it needs Survivalist aura vet in team to have unending fun.Otherwise it lack ammo...

[bleak tulip]

simply hoard it all

[lunar hollow]

i mean if u sacrifice ur morals and just vacuum ammo pickups it works like a charm

your teammates will probably not like you though

[idle bay]

But those furry-tau-lovers go with any other aura than ammo aura for some reason...

[bleak tulip]

biggest deserves biggest pile of ammo

[lunar hollow]

i can kinda respect not running ammo aura

if ur doing it intentionally because ammo aura is way too strong

[idle bay]

Zealot runs faster .. .

[tall trout]

speed aura all day every day baby

[golden tartan]

Barrels exist

[lunar hollow]

but a lotta people just dont really know what theyre doing cuz they just started playing

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats why you kill the zealot with barrels by accident and blame the spread of the kickback

[lunar hollow]

i mean

theres certain instances where u can hit an enemy u didnt actually see on the screen with kickback

because of the gigantic fuckin spread

this has happened to me once or twice on some unfortunately placed poxbursters on staircases

[idle bay]

Or if it below average zealot - you just wait till it runs away and then start counting to 15 . And Bang - he is dead 🙂

[lunar hollow]

lmao

my favorite gameshow

WILL. HE. PUSH?

[idle bay]

He will!

[lunar hollow]

when it comes to running face first into 3 mauler overheads

the answer is yes

when it comes to shoving a burster off himself or getting him and 2 teammates killed

the answer is no

[idle bay]

not yes but YES!

As Psyker i run into ragers and maulers head on to poke them to death with DS

[lunar hollow]

as god intended

popping scriers and killing an entire elite pack while a pub zealot flails about is always funny

[idle bay]

I recall that i did crafted nearly perfect Infernus/Dumdum Laspistol...... i need to try that

[lunar hollow]

it is very funny rn

melts almost anything u point it at

[idle bay]

Though i have no idea why i need Scrier 🙂 I prefer old fashioned way

[lunar hollow]

scriers is just kinda fun

the voicelines are cool

[idle bay]

Ah.. the voicelines

That's the reason for me to try it out 🙂

[lunar hollow]

the benefits aren't particularly huge

[idle bay]

100% peril for Unsatable on FS

[lunar hollow]

because of the awkward nature of the ult/DD not being particularly great

but also if ur playing gunker and dont have a forcesword u dont need peril for anything so that leaves scriers or shield

[idle bay]

Unstable/Uncanny on Deimos and Scrier to get that peril fast to 100 is kinda of overkill

[thin finch]

are you talking about scriers's gaze ?

[lunar hollow]

yeah

[feral seal]

Dueling sword is unyielding/maniac right?

[thin finch]

Then you are wrong

[lunar hollow]

an excellent counterpoint

[idle bay]

+2 stamina +20% block effeciency. Damage bonuses are for the weak of the spirit

[thin finch]

I know,my argumentation is incomparable

[thin finch]

but you can get up to 40% damage + 30% finesse damage and Toughness damage reduction and moevspeed, that not's "not particularly huge" that's huge

[idle bay]

In recent failed game when team of "i have no idea what to do on damnation" when i worked as revive-o-matic all teh time. I had 69 (exactly) blocked attacks in the end

[thin finch]

• all the benefit of having high peril that it gives you

as well a +20% Critical chance on a tree that already hve a lot of critical chance , I don't think there is any buff similar to this

[lunar hollow]

i don't think it's particularly fair to talk about the maximum benefits of scriers when there's a lot of scenarios where you don't ramp up to max stacks

[thin finch]

When all you have to do it pick an illisi and swing head level into a horde and BAM max level

[lunar hollow]

theres also like the thing where a lot of weapons dont exactly... need it? like dueling sword gets some benefit, but also not huge

if it actually worked with warp charges (or warp charges didnt innately lose stacks for ult CDR) i would like it more

[thin finch]

I did not do math but on damnation you apparently reach some breakpoint with it

[idle bay]

Is Obscurus still an only Force Sword with no role to play?

[lunar hollow]

im pretty sure you do vs maulers and muties, yeah

[thin finch]

That is, indeed , an issue

[lunar hollow]

there's also the problem where fatshark has reversed their stance on ult design for the veteran analogue to scrier's (exe stance)

and instead of being forced into having a certain cooldown that u have to deal with no matter what

they let you chain the ult through cooldown if you can kill enough stuff

but scrier's doesn't work like that, you're still forced into the set cooldown

and i don't think that's particularly fair, considering vet immediately gets the buffs

[idle bay]

I see more and more Voicd of Command vets so Shooty-stance vets are soon to be obsolete.

Voice of Command is absolutely amazing

[hexed roost]

voice of command my beloved

[lunar hollow]

voice of command is a lil deranged right now

[rose dagger]

The short cooldown makes it nutty

[golden tartan]

A little?

[lunar hollow]

it would be much more manageable if vet couldnt shoot 3 specials

and remove the entire cd

because in any threatening situation theres plenty of potential cdr targets

[idle bay]

Normaly it's happening - as plasma vet - you delete elites and special fast enough to keep Voice going

[lunar hollow]

i hesitate to say any ult on its own is too strong while this game is plagued by a bunch of talents that completely nullify balancing by cooldown

[rose dagger]

I only take shooty stance for lights out missions these days

[spice veldt]

or have some CDR on curios and all you need is 2 specials for 100% uptime

[wet belfry]

Scriers at max is pratically impossible

[lunar hollow]

because this is good game design, surely

[spice veldt]

surely we've never encountered this issue of 100% ult uptime that fatshark could potentially learn from

[lunar hollow]

not once

[spice veldt]

never

[lunar hollow]

the most fucked up thing

is ogryn

yet again

https://streamable.com/vb1fms

3 gunlugger ults in 40 secs on an ult with 80 sec base cooldown

[bleak tulip]

I have wondered, what did apply the brittle to the crushers for you to melt em like that

[lunar hollow]

dominate

in the patch this clip was taken from it was 30% rending on elite kill for 10 seconds

now its 15%

[bleak tulip]

which one was dom again

as in where

as in who

[lunar hollow]

left side of the tree

[bleak tulip]

righto

[lunar hollow]

below the 10% heavy attack damage aura

[bleak tulip]

ahh

[lunar hollow]

it doesnt work quite as well anymore

but the rending does still let burn do ok damage

[vestal fulcrum]

I remember Beam staff from VT2

[lunar hollow]

although that was testing with kickback i havent used ripper since patch 14 lmao

[rose dagger]

Wigglemancer

[spice veldt]

uh oh; was there a similar case of 100% ult uptime in vt2

[idle bay]

Nobody calls us Darlings or Lumberfoots in DT anymore...

[vestal fulcrum]

Slayer, perhaps?

[spice veldt]

🥺

[wet belfry]

Shade

[rose dagger]

Weapon trait that reduces ult cooldown on crit used to have no cooldown

So it was OP on pyro, the crit class

[vestal fulcrum]

Shade didn’t really have a constant uptime, but she could heavily trivialise any encounter with old CoM feat

[rose dagger]

You could wiggle your beam over hordes heads and regen your ult in 2 seconds

This was way back before winds of magic

[vestal fulcrum]

Right, it was roughly at the time Bogenhafen happened

Maybe some time after

I’m not a patch historian, though

[river stirrup]

What IS that hand cannon thing ?

[rose dagger]

With adrenaline surge yea, but it's not really problematic as slayer is an off meta career lol

[rose dagger]

If you must know... hand cannon blessing for revolver is global and applies to assail

[potent echo]

Remember fresh sots

Throwing vet shred grenades like no tomorrow

[rose dagger]

Radiant inheritance or whatever was so absurdly OP

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, maybe, but in the context of the career, it basically invalidates all the other talent options on Tier 20 feats

[river stirrup]

Alright thx, i'll stick to my good old staff lol

[rose dagger]

Vt2 is full of unbalanced talent rows

[potent echo]

Oh yes mainstay vs smiter

Vs the one no one picks

[rose dagger]

Nobody talks bout bulwark

Balance is not FS's strong suit

[potent echo]

Clearly I don't even know what it's called

[vestal fulcrum]

Unfortunately, but they will still be working on the game, and will supposedly run another balance pass (a beta?) at a later time this year

[mossy canopy]

What's the current meta blessings for voidstrike? I'm running Transfer Peril/Warp Flurry atm

[vestal fulcrum]

Nexus and Surge

Flurry and Transfer are still fine, though

[mossy canopy]

Huh. I've got one of those and it felt like it was performing worse than the other one

[rose dagger]

Some people prefer flurry/transfer

Both are good

[mossy canopy]

Do you gotta run anything other than going hard for crit with it?

[vestal fulcrum]

True Aim feat certainly helps with crit consistency

And warp damage on crit/toughness on crit feats at the top of the tree are good with it

Anything else is fair game

[mossy canopy]

Wait, I thought that was only on ranged damage not warp damage

Am i a fool

[spice veldt]

they're not mutually exclusive categories

[mossy canopy]

oh

[spice veldt]

get that true aim money

[mossy canopy]

Well that explains a lot

[potent echo]

True aim is the thing that makes surge amazing

[mossy canopy]

I have been running surge without thinking it was only for gunkers

[glossy ember]

why doesnt the SURGE staff have the SURGE blessing

[potent echo]

Yes we are all in shambles

[rose dagger]

Better yet, why doesn't surge do anything for trauma rmb

[bleak tulip]

true aim is incidentally also what makes void very strong still

[lone compass]

kevin says be thankful surge is not taking 2 weeks to cast anymore

[glossy ember]

all staves should have a blessing with the name of the other staff

surge should have a "void" blessing

[rose dagger]

O god it's Kevin

We meet again

[lone compass]

kevin was always here, kevin just prefers chaos of zealots

[summer prairie]

Empathic Evasion pretty good with rapidfire surge lmb https://streamable.com/kwqppl

[rose dagger]

You macroing that quell cancel or are you just a machine

[summer prairie]

that was a macro

[bleak tulip]

the left click build is coming together

[summer prairie]

but it's not much slower doing it manually

[glossy ember]

wtf

[potent echo]

Surge with void is kinda meh, void with surge tho (hypothetical)

[dark swift]

Does anyone else have an audio bug with the surge staff where if you constantly use the secondary function the audio sounds glitched?

[clear heath]

yeah just rename blazing spirit to purgatus for maximum confusion

[glossy ember]

a weird bzzt? yeah

[dark swift]

Yep lol

[feral seal]

What perks are good for dueling sword? Maniac/unyielding?

[zinc phoenix]

And instead of double shooting it creates a gravity effect and draws all enemies around to your target

[mossy canopy]

Explain for a fool what the input sequence to shoot that fast is?

[tender pagoda]

1 or 2? Hipfiring is fun, but...

[icy veldt]

i take it back guys... psyker is fun to play

[summer prairie]

You tap quell after every shot, in practice you'll at least want to bind attack to mouse wheel or autofire macro it

[glossy hazel]

Someone needs to mod this to replace the peril self explosion sound effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN7SBXJj2pc

[gilded radish]

the elite shovel for grave digging for the heretics

[sturdy dagger]

ive finally gotten around 2 building trauma and the only thing im missing rn is blazing spirit but like this thing crits one out of 5 times it seems omega cope

[plucky flax]

What level is your warp nexus?

To crit more often you need to be at high peril too.

[sturdy dagger]

tier 4

and i cast at around 80%

or sorry i start the charge at 80

[glossy ember]

so i got more smite questions

at which point is it viable for smite to kill a horde? I noticed sometimes it pops weak units decently fast, sometimes it just holds them forever. Is the variance of warp stacks that big

[frigid zenith]

Run and Gun on purg staff used to be the meta in the very begining, you could basically CC everything while sprinting through the map spamming normal attacks.

[plucky flax]

That sounds odd. Psyker has 8.5% base crit. 4 or 5 from perk + warp nexus on top.

You're critting 1 out of 3 times.

[sturdy dagger]

honestly sometimes i cast like 10 times and see no crits ik its rng but this does not seem worth running at all

[frigid zenith]

I'm on about my 70th trauma staff roll trying to get blazing spirit, good luck.

[sturdy dagger]

my first trauma roll was close, ik im prolly trolling by locking this one off for diff perks but i somehow think ive already seen enough

[frigid zenith]

Trauma staff is utterly useless outside of the huge debuff or soulblaze stacks.

[sturdy dagger]

but thats what im getting at im using soulblaze hoping to get blazing spirit but rn im counting it and im lucky if i crit one in 5 casts

it seems so comically bad to go for burn dmg on it

[plucky flax]

Just rewatching my run and I'm mad critting.

[frigid zenith]

Bro.

[sturdy dagger]

are u using scriars or something?

[plucky flax]

1375k damage in 31 mins seems pretty okay.

No I use shriek.

[sturdy dagger]

ditto

[frigid zenith]

Trauma burn is probably the highest DPS in the entire game.

It also makes a difference with your crits playing on harder diff.

More shit to hit, more chances to crit.

Don't rely on tests from meat grinder.

[sturdy dagger]

[frigid zenith]

Also, pure voidstrike builds with either nexus and flurry or nexus and 2 shot are still outdamageing mostly everything else.

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/8sj-V9yVPFs

[sturdy dagger]

yh but voidstrike is boring

[glossy ember]

do i replace shred with uncanny strike?

[frigid zenith]

to each their own, that headshot squish sound never gets old.

[sturdy dagger]

i dont understand what this means, the crit is decided on the staffs cast not per enemy?

[frigid zenith]

Replace the entire thing with a mk4 dualing sword.

you're casting a lot more.

Like, constantly.

[sturdy dagger]

what is blud wafflin about

[frigid zenith]

Never ending piles of bodies.

[sturdy dagger]

im casting constantly at 80% peril praying i see one crit

and im getting maybe one crit after 6 casts thats my issue

[frigid zenith]

I don't know man, doesn't seem to be an issue for me, are you getting the extra crit chance from the tree?

[clear light]

does anyone have a lasgun build? Just saw someone destroy with it in auric

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-sutherland-pod-people-podpeople-body-gif-10811761

[frigid zenith]

🙂

[sturdy dagger]

i swear i put this on like 2 days ago man

[frigid zenith]

the gun builds are pretty simple, scriers gaze and the boosts to it.

[sturdy dagger]

can one of the 2 trauma enjoyers send there talent tree? wondering what i should get rid off 2 slot in that 5%

[frigid zenith]

Use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs&t=122s his build.

Shows it in the first couple seconds.

It's pretty spot on.

[round summit]

so u just use assail vs any mob?

[frigid zenith]

Not bosses.

[sturdy dagger]

oh the build is in the video mb

[frigid zenith]

You're damage on a build like that it going to be entirely dependant on your team though.

If you're playing with all stars shits going to die so fast that you won't reach anything like that.

If they're having trouble though there's tons of carry potential.

[plucky flax]

I hold my own even with a good team.

[frigid zenith]

It will also depend on you as a player being able to not get smashed in melee.

[heady swan]

Dear needle psykers. Why?

[dense bramble]

cRAck CrYStals of DoOM

[frigid zenith]

assail is still good, just not clear the entire room in 2 seconds good.

I've yet to have a surge staff dude outdamage my voidstike guy either.

surge just cant keep up with the horde clear potential of voidstrike.

I'm not using 2 shot either or it would be worse.

[pliant tendon]

is this bugged?

or do i actually have to use the unupgraded version

[frank chasm]

It’s not. You need to be in the animation for a head pop before you do it though

Not a terrible roll

[pliant tendon]

head pop?

perils of the warp is when you're at 100 peril right?

[kind jay]

it's when you raise peril AT 100

when you're blowing up

use vent before you blow up to make it count

[frank chasm]

When you’re actively turning into an IED

[old citrus]

Cuz BB still feels bad and I only need smite in certain maelstroms. So. Needles.

[umbral helm]

worth blowing up at least once near an elite though for the penance if you haven't gotten that yet too

[hollow jolt]

I wish assail was in the middle

I want that cd reduct for allies talent but BB is ass for my build 😔

[glossy ember]

huh never realized you couldn't get it if you picked assail

[heady swan]

I am starting to get why the Imperium hates Psykers, these needles provide an instinctual hatred in me.

[umbral helm]

speaking of the explosion, friend and I have discussed using our 5th character slot for a meme build that goes into getting as many wounds as it can with curios and just going into a mission with the sole purpose of exploding a bunch. it wouldn't be good but it'd be funny

[heady swan]

I prep my crusher for a one tap only for a psyker to kill an elite he wasn't even focused on.

[potent echo]

Seasoning the heretics

[hollow jolt]

I'm just glad I finally have people helping me kill specialists and elites

Too used to pre-patch 13 where Vet was permanently "kill ranged" duty

Can actually play a non-Vet and not feel like I'm waiting or playing Vet and having to clear the way

[umbral helm]

I'd annoy vets with voidstrike back then because I had better aim than they did, still do sometimes

[hollow jolt]

Indeed Vet players are just 99% shit players

Lose to poxwalkers, never uses ult, wastes ammo on easily melee'd targets, shoot at carapace etc

[umbral helm]

playing with people that know their roles you get a bit spoiled when it comes to randoms. I know my friends are spoiled by me when it comes to psykers

[halcyon creek]

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

[pliant goblet]

Ong
I just hate people who steal ammo even if they're 1 round short

[hollow jolt]

Same, I have a psyker buddy that can regularly 1 man clutch

Very comfy to play with him and know I got someone with a positive IQ

[pliant goblet]

How does one learn this

[hollow jolt]

Its fine imo but if you queue for Auric Damnation and still getting bodied by poxwalkers. I can't carry that lol

[hollow jolt]

Purg crit staff and very careful positioning

[glossy ember]

i haven't managed to do a 1 man clutch as psyker yet, came close but man it's pretty tough

[keen slate]

What should I swap uncanny for?

Unstable power maybe?

[unique mist]

you could swap it to slaughterer

[unique mist]

Look at his first blessing lol complete anti synergy

[plucky flax]

Psyker and zealot are most comfy classes to clutch for me.

[keen slate]

repeated*

i did not really notice it working during hordes

[strange sapphire]

looking for someone to help with cliffhanger penance on console will help in return

[keen slate]

even if i chopped like 10 heads with a strike

[unique mist]

it should work during hordes but I'm not sure

never used it

[keen slate]

and well

[unique mist]

I love uncanny/slaughterer on illisi

So good for horde clear

[ornate hamlet]

anyone have a brain burst build i can copy? any perks needed to fully take advantage?

[keen slate]

Just go left tree

If you don't like shout you can take shield dome

[ornate hamlet]

for bottom as well just left?

[glossy ember]

it's just I don't have enough exp as psyker, not even level 50 yet

[spice oar]

When I get home I got a good one I've been running

[glossy ember]

I'm a lot more used to being an ogryn

[keen slate]

Depends

[spice oar]

Scriers gaze and bb is underrated

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i'd appreciate it!

[keen slate]

if you want more consistensy take middle keystone

[glossy ember]

can scrier make bb crit

[ornate hamlet]

it sounds like it makes sense, does it hit BP's with crushers?

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah it'll come with experience mate. I've clutched enough times on all classes but I played vt2 and have a lot of hours in dt too.

[glossy ember]

i got like 100 hours in vt2 but never did cata lol

[spice oar]

I run 30 with it aswell, which speeds it up further and gives it free casts, meaning you can just repeatedly kill elites and specials for no peril cost and manage peril rlly easy

And it 2 shots crushers, dunno if a bb build that one shots is possible

[glossy ember]

maybe with the extra warp damage on non warp weapon kills?

[spice oar]

See that's what I've been thinking, just stacking dmg buffs till you can turn a crusher's head inside out in less than a second

But that's a lotta prep work tbf

[glossy ember]

definitely

[spice oar]

But mid horde when those buffs come naturally its probs good then

[glossy ember]

oh wait

you can't reach it with bb

can you

[spice oar]

I'm not sure

[glossy ember]

assail or smite only

[spice oar]

Ah yeah that's why I had the feeling

[mellow fiber]

i wish distrup destiny actually marked enemies 100% of the time

[spice oar]

Best bet is the crit warp dmg one

[mellow fiber]

i'm not even fucking shitting you i'd never take off distrup dest

iif it just like actually worked

[spice oar]

When it works it's so good, the other 80% of the time is so god awful. just as I aim at the gunner it switches to no one like wtf

[mellow fiber]

i feel like i need to bring the skill that increase the stack duration to even have a chance of actually building up stacks

can't wait for it to finally get buffed doe :)

hopefully

[onyx sentinel]

surge staff still bugged?

[ripe crater]

Bad math? missing 1% 😦

[glossy ember]

would that be your build? i'm curious where you'd put the 2 spare points

[bleak tulip]

fatshark rounding maybe

[sturdy dagger]

is there a tier 4 shred? or should i pick this up just to grab the blessing

[bleak tulip]

yeah there is

[sturdy dagger]

[bleak tulip]

you can do worse than this

you also already have the blessing

unless you meant precog

[sturdy dagger]

wait u can tell in that menu?

[bleak tulip]

yeah see the looking glas on precog? that means you don't have it yet

[hearty laurel]

is the flakmark supposed to be a soon to be added weapon type?

the force greatsword looking thing in the weapon customization mod i mean

[bleak tulip]

we've known about it for like... 9 months?

so maybe maybe not

[idle thunder]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a865c23-e408-4585-b78b-ac9fb2a195e3/wondering-if-good

Is this a good build for Auric Damnation?

Allows for crit + smite, wildfire and ok survivability

[idle thunder]

and or is there builds that do this similar but better?

[gentle hinge]

Executor is what i have on mine for damage. not a clue if it is the best in slot tho

[hearty laurel]

lmao you made it an axe. this mod is glorious

[keen slate]

Exorcist works but

[gentle hinge]

yeah the inner zealot is calling so neede a axe. also fits my nordic descent i guess

[keen slate]

it requires you to take around 4 heads in a single strike to make it proc

and even like this it barely removes any peril

[umbral helm]

my muscle memory with quelling manually gets messed up using the transfer peril blessings so I just don't run them usually

[gentle hinge]

i do like being at high peril for warp rider so works nicely for me

[keen slate]

So I guess you can safely take Unstable power with Exorcist

wow nice

[gentle hinge]

yeah sounds like a good combo as you will have alot of power and can chain it into power attacks for rager's

[gentle hinge]

high finesse is always nice

[keen slate]

I think that Exorcist will actually allow you to stay at nearly 100% peril and still spam special attack

during hordes at least

[gentle hinge]

could be, have not tested so i would not know for sure

[keen slate]

You charge attack - get 100% - do heavy swipe - get -5% peril - repeat

in theory it sounds pog

[gentle hinge]

yeah might have to give it a try if i get Exorcist as a roll

[keen slate]

I wonder how good Kinetic deflection stacks with deflector

[ornate hamlet]

siblings, thoughts?

[gentle hinge]

it's very good, it's what i run on my mk 4, good way to get high peril and also have more stamina

[keen slate]

swap unarmoured for flak

[ornate hamlet]

what should I swap unarmoured enemies to

[keen slate]

or maniac

flak i guess would be better

since half of the enemies use it

[ornate hamlet]

also considering if flurry vs transfer peril

[keen slate]

Nexus

[ornate hamlet]

especially since warp resistance is so low on this one

[keen slate]

yea but you will shoot 2 balls for a price of 1 with Nexus more often

[ornate hamlet]

hmmmm

so hard to decide, flurry vs nexus vs transfer

[keen slate]

Nexus

why even use transfer

you quell peril already from half of your nodes in talents

[idle thunder]

Would a build with Voidstrike Wildfire, Prescience, Scier's Gaze. True Aim, and Disrupt Destiny be any good for Auric Malestorm?

with Voidstrike Force Staff.

[vast sonnet]

Any other talents that benefit the surge staff other then lightning storm? Do you guys run your surge staves with warp siphon or empowered psionics?

[idle thunder]

sorry smite

not voidestrike, wildfire*

[keen slate]

Enfeeble I believe too

wait

what's the point of taking smite with voidstrike

[idle thunder]

I just like it more and it gives me access to Wildfire

[keen slate]

Wildfire is not very good

[idle thunder]

where as I don't like Brain Rupture and I don't know a reason to go Assail

[keen slate]

unless you go full pyromancer

[idle thunder]

with a strike weapon

[spice oar]

Let me post it in the psyker-builds thread

[idle thunder]

it would have Blazing Spirit on it

ideally

and Perilous Combustion

[ornate hamlet]

because quelling in the middle of a fight is a good way to get killed

[idle thunder]

on weapon*

[keen slate]

This is what I run with smite

[keen slate]

why would you need to quell in a middle of a fight

draw your sword and chop the heads

even with force sword

[spice oar]

But essentially yes, but take away the movement speed buff on scriers and instead opt for the 10% chance to quell peril at the top and go further from the bottom left to grab the 30% peril quell speed with your last 2 points

[ornate hamlet]

???? what is a force sword gonna do against the 20 elites that spawn on malestorm

literally gonna get crushed

[keen slate]

Stay away and blast them with your staff?

unless you play with 3 bots

[ornate hamlet]

so therefore need to quell...

[keen slate]

you're away from the enemies

you can quell safely

[ornate hamlet]

not for long if I start queling lmao

[spice oar]

I don't see the issue with quelling tbh

[spice oar]

Just like, dodge an press r for like 2 seconds

[keen slate]

this

you can cast any of your abilities even if you're at 99% of perill

[spice oar]

It rlly ain't that big of an ordeal, especially considering you can cast a spell at 97% and not blow up

Edging the warp is psyker fundamentals

[keen slate]

the only time I can't really quell is when there like 20 ragers on me

and the rest of my team is dead

[spice oar]

And you don't have venting shriek or shield

[keen slate]

and if there you can kinda use surroundings

[idle thunder]

Can someone explain Force Swords vs Dueling swords?

[spice oar]

What we tryna say is that there are very few situations where you cannot quell at all or your dead

[idle thunder]

yro'ue* sorry instinct

[keen slate]

Force sword allows you to quell with your melee out plus have a nice charged attack depending on force sword type

[idle thunder]

that sounds really nice tbh

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/louisoix-final-fantasy14-minor-spelling-mistake-gif-26115358

[idle thunder]

upside of using a dueling sword instead?

[keen slate]

Dueling is high crit oneshot machine that also allow you to dodge for ages

[spice oar]

Your fast af, can one shot headshot most things including charging mutants, and your special is crazy good for stagger

[keen slate]

I've been running this thing for like 60 levels

[spice oar]

Pretty sure dueling sword special can stagger bersekrers n shit

Same as staff

[keen slate]

Berserkers are staggered with any weapon if you hit them in the head with charged attack I believe

[spice oar]

No

Definetly not knives

Or obscrusus/illisi

Or axe

[keen slate]

Illisi does

[spice oar]

Ima need to see proof tbh cause I just haven't

[keen slate]

Sec

[spice oar]

Peril boosted or not?

[keen slate]

Not

[idle thunder]

Yro'ue

and so Dueling Swords are basically used in voidstrike builds when you get gapclosed but you want to live and have decently high peril, aswell as dealing with mutants?

[spice oar]

Huh

[spice oar]

Nah not necessarily, they are good with anything

[spice oar]

O no bro i mean like when they are mid through their attack series

[paper gate]

I wish psykers had a two handed option so I could use scriers gaze and be a melee berserker

[spice oar]

Cause they get stagger resist during that

[spice oar]

I NEED MY FORCE HALBERD PLEASE

[keen slate]

Stay away from them when they do that

They barelly can move during their combo

[paper gate]

it's like trying to melee the savages in vermintide while they're mid combo

you just don't, you take stupid damage

[spice oar]

Uhh yeah Ik you can do that, but sometimes your stuck and a lightnjng fast high impact attack is rlly useful

[keen slate]

If you get cornered then it's just gg

[paper gate]

the only thing I've managed to use that was actually pretty good in terms of dealing with them mid attack was the devil sword parry

[keen slate]

unless you have outplay button

[spice oar]

I am the outplay button

[keen slate]

Devil's claw's parry is just too good

it can parry anything

[paper gate]

I killed a DH with it once

feel like I peaked there

[keen slate]

Reminds me of this pic

[glossy ember]

i see

[glossy ember]

why is that guy's outfit a naked apron

[paper gate]

I think that's a scrake