psyker-class

[winter magnet]

what's the dump stat on flame staff?

[silk hawk]

Ye, i also like mk5 achilus axe

[west stream]

Hey, doing my gun psyker with las pistol, thoughts between Dum dum and infernus after getting ghost?

[rare storm]

it's just that I feel the purg staff doesn't generate peril as badly as other staves so battle med can be replaced easily by having faster quell

[hollow jolt]

True, big buff for small gun UwU

[hollow jolt]

Damage

[winter magnet]

let's fucking go :)

[hollow jolt]

Ironically...

[silk hawk]

Might be true

[hollow jolt]

Lol

[winter magnet]

I had a feeling but I wasnt 100% sure

time to brick it

[hoary badge]

Dumdum imo, Laspistol already melts things you point it at

[hollow jolt]

Yeah "Burn" is your true damage source

[silk hawk]

It's a good one actually, dmg on purge is not that important

As far as i know

[hollow jolt]

I hope you get the "crit based off your peril" blessing

It makes or breaks purg staff

[vernal zephyr]

Depends, for single target damage I’d say chainsword type beat cause it still has good crowd control, and if you are struggling with staying alive or monkey brained teammates triggering daemonhosts the devil claw is really good, also has decent damage and cowed control (this is all my opinion, none of this is based on fact, I’m very stupid and play almost strictly malice and heresy

[winter magnet]

and hadron bricked it

[hollow jolt]

Too busy making pics for OnlyMechs

[vernal zephyr]

Ps, if your build is based around your peril feel free to replace chainsword with force sword, they are very similar

[modest panther]

Me personally I love my blaze force sword

[vernal zephyr]

Yes

[frank moat]

Every force sword is a blaze force sword

[ornate hamlet]

i miss infinite dodge + infinite block on force sword

crab walking away from 4 gunners was so funny

[modest panther]

Chat this may be true

[vernal zephyr]

The block on force swords is so fucking good I am so very sad it’s only on the force sword, this includes it’s pushing too

[hoary badge]

just a PSA the force push now extends to 10m

[modest panther]

If you know how to actually manage your peril you can use the warp charge on it a lot

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-force-is-strong-this-one-gif-12008798

[vernal zephyr]

This is true, but force sword is 100% best melee if your build is based on peril stacks

[ornate hamlet]

warp nexus right?

[hoary badge]

or as the cool kids call it, "Harnessing the Warp"

[clear heath]

wow someone actually remembers the old name

[hollow jolt]

Probably

I don't remember the blessing names lol

[hoary badge]

the old new name*

[lyric burrow]

Yeah harnessing the warp was its name for like 2 weeks lol

[long wharf]

Nobody cool called it "Harnessing the Warp", trust me

[hoary badge]

thats because u ain't in the cool cluster

[long wharf]

I guess not

[willow hazel]

Missing out on the 5% crit node is weird

[glossy ember]

hadron my beloved please don't brick it

1.5 stamina

out of plasteel anyway

[ornate hamlet]

[hoary badge]

if you pray nicely to the sparky shrine she might drop run and gun so you can get some value out of that stam

[rare storm]

I find the purg crits enough to let me put that point somewhere else that I feel might work better

It's good to have tho, more ranged immunity from empathic evasion

[willow hazel]

Each crit is 2 stacks of soulblaze

[winter magnet]

what would yall do to this? Im thinking the 20% damage to unyielding to 25% maniac or the blazing spirit to bloodthirsty 4

[rare storm]

Well I'm not gunning to get the MAX stacks of soulblaze, everything would die with about 20 anyway which is very achievable even without min maxed crit

[willow hazel]

Probably keeping unyielding for monstrocities

The purgatus can only apply 15-16 stacks max, the crits just allow you to apply damage quicker. Which is the biggesst issue the purgatus staff.

[rare storm]

with combustion included, things just die quicker

Well anyway, it's working out for me, others can put the crit node in if they want to

so I'll probably leave it out

[olive ember]

You didn’t like HtW

SMH

I still don’t know why they changed the name lmao

[acoustic path]

Maniac to help with ragers and mutants

[winter magnet]

[robust sierra]

if I can bother you guys quick, do you think I should get this (maybe could replace transfer peril for something else?)

[vernal zephyr]

Personally, I’d say yes, the infested perk is cool for horde clearing and some other stuff, idk bout stamina though and I think warp flurry is kinda baller

But that damage, charge rate and quell speed is gnarly

[crisp yacht]

The meta is surge and the crit blessing but the warp flurry and transfer peril one is also very good combo. I'd say change the perks to flak and maniac.

[cold chasm]

Noob here, I just saw a person with crazy powerful smite - what interaction is casuing that?

[hoary badge]

Empowered Psionics

[plucky flax]

Xbox player that can type? And appreciate my hard work?

[modest panther]

Probably his keystone

[neon steppe]

Looks great. Definitely replace stamina. I still like transfer peril, if this was my staff I would either replace both properties or replace warp flurry with tier 4 warp flurry. But transfer peril and warp flurry still make an amazing combo together

[vale creek]

what is finesse damage?

@plucky flaxalso hey!

[plucky flax]

Hullo

[foggy goblet]

finesse dmg is just crit/weakspot multipliers
pretty good for ST

apparently affects atk speed too, but mainly the first two are most noticable

[vale creek]

ohh

[spice veldt]

finesse, as a stat, affects crit/weakspot multipliers and sometimes attack speed

Finesse Damage, as given by blessings and talents, is +crit/weakspot damage

+60% finesse damage = +60% crit dmg and +60% weakspot damage

[plucky flax]

I don't think talents that increase finesse damage actually increase attack speed. Only the finesse modifier on the weapons itself.

And even so in cases like combat axe, rashad with finesse modifier only increases the heavy attack speed.

[heady garnet]

Does psychic leeching proc every time you use the nomanus staff?

[solar sand]

mine came from a grey and its not amazing but she didnt quite fail me

im actually really liking focused channeling, nexus would be better but not getting interrupted from the attack that staggers most things is huge for usability, only using it on up to 4 anyway

[vernal zephyr]

Focused channeling my beloved!!

My go to blessing on staves

[solar sand]

crit is ofc very strong but

i dont like inconsistency, and flurry and focused seem to be some of the most consistent blessings while still giving notable power

[vernal zephyr]

Idek what my staff has on it rn, ik focused channeling but I’m 90% sure I made it do more infested damage and unarmored because I personally enjoy melting an entire horde in a few seconds

[brazen warren]

purge is good for calming down mixed hordes, but getting used to when to use light attack flame spray vs heavy channel to preserve mobility in a large encounter is the learning curve

the primary fire has pretty good suppression and stagger

[solar sand]

im using it as my speed weapon for 3s and 4s but

it feels really good

[hearty dagger]

So, i've been using the stunshield

[vernal zephyr]

Primary to stun a group in front of you then immediately charge while backing up then whoosh

[hearty dagger]

Ngl, pretty satisfying to pull off a 180 and slap a shield in front of someone about to get netted

[solar sand]

i always feel like a hero, when i see the sniper red dot line and whip down a shield .2 seconds before it one shots someone on damnation

[vernal zephyr]

It’s good, I like bubble more because fuck every single ranged guy ever and screw any monstrosity or host trying to tickle my taint

[solar sand]

aside from like aurics, ive never died in the bubble nor have my teammates

i dont think wall is bad at all but

bubble all the way

[sonic coral]

you guys are living in a bubble

[robust sierra]

thanks

[sonic coral]

coupla bubble boys over here

[hearty dagger]

Personally i prefer the wall since ngl the bubble, or at least the people i run into running it, tend to be a bit silly

[vernal zephyr]

Thanks!

[solar sand]

people have said bubbles will burst for years and im still waiting lol

[vernal zephyr]

I aspire to be the mega hermit

[willow hazel]

Bubble is easier to use, but wall feels better once you are used to it

[hearty dagger]

Like sticking it down in the middle of melee enemies.

[dark stag]

Do the blaze and force swords share blessings?

[vernal zephyr]

Fair but the bubble is so good against beast of nurgle, I can’t go back (it’s also so amazing at assassination missions)

[vernal zephyr]

The blaze sword is the force sword isnt it?

[dark stag]

Wait true they do have force at the end

Actually no they are all blaze aren't they

I'm dumb

banish me to the ogryn channel

[vernal zephyr]

[dark stag]

what should I replace the sprint with, flak?

[willow hazel]

maniac

[vernal zephyr]

Imo (never take my word because I’m very horrible at min-maxing) carapace, or flak is the goat with force sword

[cerulean rune]

bruh wtf does empowered psi buff surge lightning damage?

[supple skiff]

YEA

[queen fog]

yea its a bug

[cerulean rune]

god damn it

[dark stag]

Are you asking why it does or why people use it?

[queen fog]

good question mose

[smoky fractal]

what

[cerulean rune]

both

[vernal zephyr]

🦟🦗🦟🦗

[smoky fractal]

as anyone really as as to question why??

[dark stag]

I believe it's coded in the same way as smite and therefore somehow receieves the ep buffs

[queen fog]

main guess at least for me is the bio-lightning variable they used got mixed with surge's bio-lightning

[dark stag]

As to why people use it, ha ha funny lighting go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[queen fog]

making EP benefit surge's lightning while not consuming the stacks because its intended use was on smite

[cerulean rune]

dmg without empowered psi

dmg with empowered psi (it says 1627)

[queen fog]

seems like decent math to me considering how much EP buffs the damage of smite

or in this case, surge

[dark stag]

Ye it's just the game thinking it's smite is all and using the surge's base dmg

Therefore beeeg dmg

[cerulean rune]

welp time to use another staff

[vernal zephyr]

Purge and voidstrike are my pretty little staves

[glossy ember]

[supple skiff]

I havent played in months and Im not sure what they did to void but its glorious

[foggy goblet]

i take it this doesn't expend empowered psi stacks?

[blazing echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1BGdDO9MxLlsI3/d1337gBkXpqS?invite=cr-MSxOejIsMjAwMzc3ODc2LA Tested my Smite staff for the first time. This is only Malice but I have a query, what makes it target more enemies and what makes it more fun for the rest of the team, this seems... ridiculous

[open pike]

Can I just shove an MG Ia Lasgun onto any Gunker build, game will not stop dropping them for me

[cerulean rune]

nope

[plucky solar]

for the purposes of talents, what is "critical Peril" is that when the percent number is red?

or is the few seconds before I die when I go over 100

[cerulean rune]

empowered psionics is inadvertently buffing surge staff

[cerulean rune]

i think critical peril is above 75-80% peril

[dark stag]

Would I be memeing if I ran purg with smite xd?

[blazing echo]

Ok I can respec that and hopefully give the team a chance but I see other smites that stagger much more enemies, what could I change to improve my performance there?

[plucky solar]

you have to run the "unlimited power" mod as well

[dark stag]

oh no no, I meant as in "would I be trolling?" or would it actually be ok to run?

[cerulean rune]

so the ability Smite is the bigger AoE skill that'll giga stun everything - is that what you're talking about?

[blazing echo]

probably yeah

for some reason I was under the illusion the staff had same performance

[dark stag]

Surge and Smite are mutually exclusive btw

[vernal zephyr]

The perks and blessings are giving you a job

[dark stag]

Surge is just for single target and smite is for mixed horde cc

[cerulean rune]

yea, Smite is the giga-lightning skill that'll deal low-ish damage
Surge staff is obviously the staff you're using
They're both different. Surge staff will hit fewer enemies but hit harder (and there's a bug where Empowered Psionics will also buff it)
Smite will hit a lot more enemies but will deal much less dmg but will also giga stun

[atomic zephyr]

Mk2 is better for hordes overall guys?

Mk2 duel sword

[spice veldt]

97% for kinetic deflection, and I'm pretty sure that kinetic flayer's description lies because I can proc flayer at 100% peril

[blazing echo]

yeah instead of the Mass CC I was aiming for I accidentally made myself Thor

[glossy ember]

fellas I got cliffhanger completely randomly

of course my clipping failed me

so I don't have video proof

but I got it using smite on 7+ hounds I couldn't see

[vernal zephyr]

What does the cosmetic look like?

I realized I’ve never look at the penance cosmetics for my psyker

[spice veldt]

i lied; proccing flayer at 100% peril seems to put flayer on cooldown but does not actually brainburst an enemy if put on cooldown
Proccing flayer only brainbursts enemies if you're at a slightly lower peril it seems

presumably it uses the same threshold of 97%

[tawny pebble]

possibly my favorite feature of Smite is that it sometimes latches onto stuff not in view

and i'll never know until seconds after i stop using it

[rare storm]

damn, a huge dump stat lmao

Will this low ass base affect the blessings/perks I can get horribly?

[glossy ember]

I don't really understand how to use smite well yet

[blazing echo]

no, thats all rng

[glossy ember]

since i barely use it

but it's fun going zap

[dark stag]

Should I bother upgrading this or is cloud too important

[rare storm]

Aite, may hadron blesseth

[frosty iron]

I think the overall rating will raise / lower the chance of higher tier perks but the perk pool should be the same

[blazing echo]

may the Emperor see fit to bless your project

[rare storm]

Ya that's what I'm worried about, want to at least get t3s lmao

[tawny pebble]

I alternate between using it as a push on specialists/elites or to simply turn a horde into butter for the others

[frosty iron]

If you're starved for resources I'd hold off on upgrading anything below 370, 360 if you're really unlucky and can't find anything decent. If you've got plenty of mats might as well give it a shot and see if you can get good perks / blessings and just reroll the ones that are bad

[rare storm]

I've spent all my plasteel perfecting my staves lmao

just done so I'm moving on to guns

just hoping I get a good base so I can start blessing farming

[foggy goblet]

damn, tha'ts honestly awesome lmao, nice one

[languid osprey]

lovely moment when vet eats all the ammo and then tells you to use a staff

seems like braincells run low on the guard

[foggy goblet]

why can't i use my warp powers as ammunition goddamn it

also non-scav vet moment

[sleek loom]

can anyone share me a laspistol psyker build?

[blazing echo]

The pistol alone is deadly, dont really think you need to spec your tree for it

[foggy goblet]

maybe they meant blessings? i dunno

[blazing echo]

DumDum/Infernus Flakiac or whatever the hell you want really

[foggy goblet]

infernus scrier's for big funni

[steel flame]

I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED

[blazing echo]

Ok since this is not what I wanted, how should I config the perks on this? Ranged weak to flak?

[steel flame]

Flack

Never use weakspot or crit damage

[foggy goblet]

ooo a DD build? has it worked better for you over Warp stacks?

[steel flame]

Yes

[vernal zephyr]

Imagine using ammo as vet tho, grenade spam W

Infiltrate + infinite grenades

Mm

[steel flame]

I use it with dumdum infernus laspistol and uncanny Mk4 DS

I can usually hit about 700k damage in a hi intensity shocktroop on a good night

[steel flame]

Laspistol does a shitload of finesse damage as does dueling saber so dd is a much bigger damage boost than warp charges

Not to mention warp siphon is not properly coded for scrier so it's just a dead feat slot

[foggy goblet]

ahh okay, i've been running enhanced bb and it's been OK but I might just do DD
i dunno, DD seems pretty frustrating at times

[steel flame]

What's frustrating about?

[idle bay]

It's finally done!
1500 Missions and new frame

[foggy goblet]

It feels antithetical to cooperation

at least warp stacks you can "steal" from teammates by being in coherency on a kill
DD feels like you have to go kill hungry by yourself

[keen slate]

Why I always lose on vet, but win on psyker

[steel flame]

Ah

Well I play hyper aggressively with this build so I can see how it could frustrate a more passive play style

[foggy goblet]

Yeah, it's more of a personal thing at the end of the day. I just need to git gud
Never did like on kill effects in co op games either though

[steel flame]

Everyone plays different

Dd is more suited for guns than staves too

[marble slate]

hello all! does anyone know if smite works with crit?

[steel flame]

Smite can't crit

[dark stag]

is quell speed that important on purg staff?

[marble slate]

ok so its a good thing that I have avoided crit nodes

[spice veldt]

DD does have two bugs, and the refresh mechanic doesn't seem to work properly so killing is the only guaranteed way to maintain your stacks

[steel flame]

If you take the 30% faster quell node above warp siphon, quell speed makes no difference

[spice veldt]

it seems like they did think of these problems but somehow didn't implement the leniency mechanics properly

[dark stag]

so then I can upgrade this?

[rare storm]

it would be such a nice looking main gun to own

Sadly hadron fucked it

lmao

[white swan]

quell speed is a fine dump stat on purg, damage too, thats a good base only nitpick would be max cloud radius, as it increases range too

[dark stag]

alr

[white swan]

if you dont have dockets to burn id just use it

[hollow jolt]

here's what I use as Purg Psyker

[steel flame]

It's great

[foggy goblet]

show me the pain.

[foggy goblet]

Yeah I'll definitely try running it instead
mind if I ask what you use for blitz? most from what I've seen do BB -> bb on hit

[glossy ember]

look aight

[foggy goblet]

ooh interesting, assail gunsyker

[steel flame]

I use assail. It has great stagger for setting up quick headshots

It can stack dumdum by shooting a few and swapping to laspistol

[foggy goblet]

oh! it can? holy shit i didn't know

[steel flame]

Good for clearing trash mobs to save ammo and for quick toughness regen

I use saber Mk4 to clear crushers and other stuff and it can more than handle horde clear

Laspistol can kill maulers with body shots faster than saber

[hollow jolt]

laspistol bad

recon lasgun good

[steel flame]

This means war

[prime elk]

Why mk4 specifically?

[hollow jolt]

UwU

[hollow jolt]

iirc moveset

[steel flame]

Best heavy attack armor damage

[hollow jolt]

oh wait that's devil claw I'm thinking of then

[foggy goblet]

wrong, tapping with autopistol is the best

[hollow jolt]

ammo efficient and super high dps 🤔

true

[steel flame]

Dumdum internus laspistol is all the boss damage you could ever need

[near wyvern]

Why do you take +1 dodge? The duration is not there (bugged)

[steel flame]

News to me

Seems to work perfectly fine when I have my saber out

[near wyvern]

Yeah the assail staggers so well and you can weave them while spring sliding as well. It also at times opens up bulwarks, pretty handy when they are close RMB and look above and the shard curves to the back of their head.

[near wyvern]

The +1 yes, the +50% dodge duration is not there

[worthy scaffold]

people say infested to maniac, but i can dealt with rager with assail fine, so what else perk should i add?

[dark stag]

If you really don't want maniac I'd say crit chance

[hollow jolt]

maniac affects trappers, flamers, and tox flamers too

[dark stag]

Will let you proc perfect timing more if you're running it

[hollow jolt]

maniac covers a ton of dangerous enemies

[steel flame]

Amazing

Well whatever

[worthy scaffold]

mainly use the 2nd skill, will the crit chance also affect it?

[steel flame]

Scab flamers are flak

[keen slate]

Holy shit this is just silly

[glossy ember]

How does smite works exactly?

[dark stag]

You mean you're secondary staff action?

[glossy ember]

i run flak carapace on mine

[near wyvern]

Nah they maniac

[dark stag]

If so then yes, crit affects the surge zap

[hollow jolt]

???

no they're not

[glossy ember]

tox flamers are maniac i think

[steel flame]

Scab flamers literally say they are flack

[glossy ember]

scab flak

iirc

[keen slate]

You press RMB and then LMB and CC everything in front of you

[prime elk]

Ic ic thanks

[worthy scaffold]

aight tyty

[glossy ember]

i meant more like, what's the limit? how big of an effect is that +1 lightning node?

[keen slate]

Uhh

I feel like it's really just bullshitting you

[brazen warren]

the +1 lightning node is noticable, but not required

[keen slate]

and amount of times your smite jumps is actually infinite

but i'm not sure

[brazen warren]

channel smite until they stop moving, then release it before quelling and you will throw trash on their ass

[near wyvern]

LMB few targets but starts immediately, RMB 1 second charge but very fast go spread on multiple targets. High peril cost peg second but auto quells on hitting 100 so can't explode (unless you start to cast it when already at 100 like a dummy).

Takes a few seconds to stun mutants and open up Bulwakrs but once open they stay open until you stop.

Lesser enemies will get knocked down once you stop it.

[near wyvern]

No, they maniac

[glossy ember]

[brazen warren]

use the knock down to actually control hordes

[keen slate]

at least i'm yet to see a time where my charged smite did not stun entire horde

wish it's damage would scale with amount of targets chained

[brazen warren]

but long channel stun to cover rez and objectives

[keen slate]

would be really good

[hollow jolt]

flamers maniac

they have been for a long time

[near wyvern]

Not big, seems to only affect LMB

[dark stag]

Should I keep upgrading this?

[steel flame]

.....

[glossy ember]

Ohhh

[steel flame]

HERESY

[hollow jolt]

the one that's fucking weird is the Dreg Gunner

Dreg gunner's legs are unarmored

[glossy ember]

is smite lmb a panic button

[dark stag]

^yes

[near wyvern]

Yes

[glossy ember]

ok neat

[near wyvern]

Dog catcher

[hollow jolt]

and so are their shoulders

[dark stag]

Mostly you wanna use rmb

[dark stag]

What blessings would I want in this staff?

[glossy ember]

ok yea makes sense

[near wyvern]

And quick safe poke for bursters. Works 99% of the time. (I have had 1 Burster so far just ignoring my smite, casually jogging up to the team and leap to my face. I did wee a little.)

[glossy ember]

guess I'll keep using the +1 node while it's bugged for surge then

probably will take it off once they fix it

[dark stag]

(if you're running surge it will also knock them backwards as well!)

[glossy ember]

huh

[near wyvern]

Meh, the third target damage is not great. You do get full Mettle on crit tho with it.

[glossy ember]

yeah it's for the extra crit proc

it's not like i have anything else to put a point in

well, wildfire, toughness/tdr, movement speed.

[dark stag]

provided it doesn't instantly die from the secondary

[near wyvern]

I am a movement speed addict NGL

[dark stag]

Honestly I stopped running wildfire

[steel flame]

Clearly the Lies and fabrications of a heretic

[hollow jolt]

blame Fatshark Uwu

[near wyvern]

Hence smite is the safe way to deal with bursters. When you have horde and you hear the ticking, do your team a favour and tase that pile of heretics. Bursters that get touched by smite will get knocked back and explode. 99% of the time.

[dark stag]

Oh yeah for sure smite is the best option

[glossy ember]

yea i was thinking it'd be the best one since i feel i have enough toughness

[rare storm]

I mean all things considered it's not TERRBILE but the perks both being t3 is a brick to me

[dark stag]

I'm just sayin that if needed surge can also knock em back

[rare storm]

Then again I made this... So I might actually just try and build it up

[glossy ember]

i usually surge em if teammates arent nearby

[near wyvern]

It's very salvageable if that's the best one you have

[rare storm]

ehh I have better ones, it's just that having an extremely low dump stat looks funny

Ima try to make it yellow, gotta do a plasteel run

[dark stag]

But seriously, any purg users?
I require thyne assitance in Blessings/perks for le staff

[near wyvern]

Headhunter into surgical sibling, don't be silly

[near wyvern]

Atehenum reading time

[dark stag]

Oh, it has stuff about staffs too?

very well

[near wyvern]

Yes

Everything

[rare storm]

I've yet to get a t4 surgical

[near wyvern]

Hadron is a b * * * *

[dark stag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 this is the one we are talking about ye?

[rare storm]

Truly

[near wyvern]

Yes sir

[rare storm]

Hadron does not blesseth

[steel flame]

@near wyvern still rolling for Columnus....

[rare storm]

I have joined you in this venture, sibling

[steel flame]

I hate this godforsaken "crafting" system

[rare storm]

brunt and hadron are mofos

[near wyvern]

I am missing Dumdum 4, can't wait to get that

Have dumdum 3 on mine but that's a swapped slot so I just gotta find it

Melk is refusing to co-operate

Any day now...

[near wyvern]

You forgot Sour Milk

[steel flame]

Mommy melkies

[rare storm]

that is true, forgot bout mr milk

Oh brunt has redeemed himself, now to save plasteel for hadron to brick it

[steel flame]

Yeah good luck, took me 6 months to get that for laspistol

[steel flame]

Brick brick brick

[near wyvern]

For some reason I have almost all the good shit for laspistol

[rare storm]

I will let you know again when I have plasteel lmao

[near wyvern]

I haven't even rolled as many

[steel flame]

I have everything for laspistol now

Dum dum was the last

[near wyvern]

Hadron kept you by the pinky then

[near wyvern]

It will be sad to see this ruined

[steel flame]

I got 7 infernus 3 in a row once

I was so annoyed

[near wyvern]

Classic Hadrun

[steel flame]

I'm starting to get there

I have every t4 for staves, dueling swords, shredder, laspistol, force swords and combat axes

[near wyvern]

I have force swords and staves, not sure about others

[rare storm]

It really will be

[steel flame]

Now I need autoguns, lasguns, chainsword tact axe

[near wyvern]

Just, if it is ruined, hold onto it, maybe some day you can fix it

[steel flame]

And devil claw

And knife

[near wyvern]

Knife is fun

[steel flame]

[rare storm]

I must let it go...

It must not stay and collect dust

[near wyvern]

That's a hate crime

To let it go

[rare storm]

ima record the moment I hold X on it

[near wyvern]

If I ever get into a game with you beware of barrels.

They gonna be exploding at peculiar moments.

[foggy goblet]

all i could say is "it could be worse" about it haha
I mean i'd still use it, fire frenzy is way more conditional than a lot of other blessings imo but fuck it

[near wyvern]

Fire frenzy is super strong

Ragers in your face say bye bye

[dark stag]

I have read it

I am powerful now

[near wyvern]

Now you now everything about Purging Heretics.

[rare storm]

[dark stag]

god dammit xd

[rare storm]

Ye I'll get it up to yellow and see its fate

[dark stag]

When I was a wee lil surge user I thought purg sucked

[olive ember]

@near wyvern is nexus surge voidstrike still the strongest or is it flurry surge

[dark stag]

Now I s e e

[unique mist]

lol i think purg still sucks

[acoustic osprey]

i think it's the weakest comparatively

[olive ember]

surge staff without bug is weak

purge is fine

[unique mist]

oh boy an OK amount of horde clear with a complete inability to damage anything in armor?

[acoustic osprey]

i'm enjoying surge atm

[near wyvern]

Nexus surge for burst nexus flurry for sustained DPS

Because of the damage nerf you gotta have nexus to have fully stacked perfect timing to be powerful again

[unique mist]

me too

after the nerf, the charge time on nexus/surge voidstrike is really beginning to annoy me

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/l0t217

"inability to damage anything in armor" is a statement

[unique mist]

well

okay

[near wyvern]

Inability? Only crushers take little damage bug you can supress and kill everything around them. If your team cannot handle them at that point start banging one with uncanny strike and the flames start to kick in as well.

[rare storm]

fun fact, right after this and we rescued him, this happened

[dark stag]

Does soulblaze count as "warp attack" for soulstealer?

[unique mist]

thats hilarious

[near wyvern]

Good. Then you know what awaits you.

[unique mist]

yes

[dark stag]

g o o d

[foggy goblet]

oh no
what is he cooking

[rare storm]

[dark stag]

I am going to be cough purging

[spice veldt]

purg has infinite cleave so you can't really go wrong with it

[foggy goblet]

please do not announce your bathroom needs in here, thank you

[dark stag]

But sibling

We must purge

[spice veldt]

i don't get why people exclusively focus on hordeclear with purg and use that to shit on it

[near wyvern]

Purging the purge with the purge

[spice veldt]

when evidently enemies other than groaners/poxwalkers can appear in packs

[dark stag]

Well I read za thing

[near wyvern]

And people tend to forget purge LMB staggers crushers

Interrupt those overheads

[dark stag]

So I will run it with uncanny strike so I can kill crushers and monsters too >:)

[near wyvern]

While flaming shit next to them

[near wyvern]

Yes, any melee with uncanny strike pairs well now that rending is so strong.

[dark stag]

I am just uncertian, should I run brain or smite (I don't wanna run assail you can't make me)

[rare storm]

bb

[dark stag]

Probs just BB

yeee

[near wyvern]

bb

Smite overlaps with purge and then you have nothing to deal with that sniper across the room

[dark stag]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

fuck surge and smite

I'll show them TRUE POWERRRRRRRRRR

now time to go cry to hadron

So I know wildifre(nor Emphatic Evasion) are there but I am kinetic addict, do you guys think both of those perks are simply too important for the build and I should stop being an addict or just keep kinetic

Oh also dw I will change it to 10% soulblaze I just forgor

[stone spindle]

I like running a brain burst build with empowered psionics

Fast charge speed makes me so happy

[neat summit]

^^

BB, Shield, empowered psionics

[rare storm]

double stun shield with bb goes ham

[stone spindle]

I run bb, venting shriek, empowered psionics

[rare storm]

Did pick'n'mix so easily with it lol

[stone spindle]

Oh yeah, it’s insane

A patrol of ragers

Just

Pop

Pop

Pop

Pop

[rare storm]

[foggy goblet]

lol

[stone spindle]

Oh shoot, my bad hardeon bot

[foggy goblet]

Hadron is here to fuck you up in game and out of game

[stone spindle]

Nah

Hadron loves me

[foggy goblet]

Her silence speaks volumes

[stone spindle]

That’s what forgiveness sounds like

Screaming and then silence

[kindred marlin]

Does the mk II purgatatus force staff do soulblaze?

[steel flame]

It stacks soulblaze

[strong gulch]

that's all it does

[kindred marlin]

Okay

Perfect thanks y’all

[steel flame]

It also deals direct damage but every damage tick applies a stack of soulblaze up the staves cap which is decided by the burn stat, max being 15 stacks of sb at 74%

[stone spindle]

How does the force sword damage profile work on the mark 2 and the single target one on the enpowered attack. Is it like, one bit hit, or is it a bunch of little hits?

[steel flame]

What is the MK2?

[kindred marlin]

Thank you

[stone spindle]

Obscurus

[steel flame]

Always use the name

[stone spindle]

Half of the weapons I remember the marks and half I remember the names

[steel flame]

Yeah.....

[stone spindle]

What stubber do I use? Gorganum. What club do I use? Mark 1

[steel flame]

Not all names are remembered equally

[dark stag]

is it worth to change the 2 to 4 or should I just change the perks instead?

actually nvm I'm dumb

[steel flame]

2 to 4

Uncanny go brrrrrrrr

That's a good sword

[dark stag]

yep

I changed it to 4 and then infested to unyield

[steel flame]

Rip crushers

[dark stag]

that way the soulblaze will go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[steel flame]

And bosses

[rapid leaf]

That finesse is unfortunate tho

[rotund dagger]

What's good for a Trauma Staff

The Gandalf style one

[heady garnet]

3 minutes is short irl but 3 minutes for warp battery is a lifetime

[lyric prism]

ok so i have this kriegsmen psyker build that i fucking love to bits

it is legit about you not using any warp attacks at all

sorta like a "fitting in with the masses and blending in, pretending to not be a psyker" sorta deal

[sullen bobcat]

Is there a worse perk to get than weakspot damage on a trauma staff?

At least with a stamina perk, I can revive easier or something

[brazen warren]

shovel and kickback, or shovel and achyls

[spice veldt]

i don't think the stamina perk applies if you're reviving since you're holding out a different weapon

[brazen warren]

should try out the clubs again, since they got mega buffed right

[rare storm]

Weakspot perk works with m1 so

It's not good, but helps you with long range sniper shooting I guess

[lyric prism]

can only recommend it

its maybe not the best

but its hella fun

dont know if uncanny or rampage is better

but i wanna replace one of them

for shred

[unique mist]

uncanny is better

[rare storm]

I have sacrificed the lives of my team to try and keep my warp battery stacks up lmao

[lyric prism]

yeah i wanna replace rampage then for shred

for the big crit rolls

[heady garnet]

Ran a high intensity shock troop gauntlet 5

[lyric prism]

and my main struggle atm is killing elites :p

[heady garnet]

kept 4 stacks for like forever

WHAM sudden silence and im PRAYING for a sniper to spawn or something

[rare storm]

The worst part is when you've got a decent timer running, then you have to take an elevator lmao

[lyric prism]

you gotta see the sweat pearls a disrupt destiny psyker starts to excrete when the 30 stacks he gathered are about to run out

[heady garnet]

aims at a lone sniper

[strong gulch]

gotta chase the stack man

[heady garnet]

ogyrn uses charge and whacks it

[rare storm]

Have you managed to maintain more than 20 stacks of ws?

I always feel like I can make it whenever I see my 15 lock for 90% of the game, can never hold more than 15 for long when I run the 30 stack node lmao

[heady garnet]

i swear to god im about to grief an auric mission just to get that last pennace

[lyric prism]

for disrupt destiny?

[rare storm]

The potential damage buffs of 30 stacks of ws is so tempting

AH dd yes my bad

brain fart

[lyric prism]

forget staffs .. they suck for it

i use the damn las pistol

[rare storm]

I run a melee/vraks build when I do dd lol

[lyric prism]

i am playing auric and being past like 20 oneshots all shooters with a single headshot, it is nasty

but disrupt destiny asks of you to have your aim game on point

ALWAYS headshot

never try to bodyshot

[rare storm]

It's not the shooting tbh

It's the no-highlight bugs I get

Always ruins it honestly

[lyric prism]

oh ... yeah ... sorry sibling, but we need to wait for FS to stabilize the warp on this one

i feel you so much with this

[rare storm]

Do it

[lyric prism]

its the main reason why i dont run this build all the time

[rare storm]

Honestly, dd would be such a good keystone if it works even 90% of the time

it's already good now BUT IMAGINE

[lyric prism]

yeah, even worse when it just switches off to a new target when you JUST about landed the killing shot on the one you aimed at the previously marked guy

[rare storm]

I've noticed that even though it swaps off, it's actually still highlighted

[lyric prism]

but i did hold onto 30 stacks for more than 10 seconds or so

[queen trout]

anyone know if burn and soulblaze stack?

[rare storm]

"highlighted" because sometimes I get the stack

[lyric prism]

should

[queen trout]

like can you have both effecting 1 target

[heady garnet]

Psyker math is commiting exterminatus for a new cosmetic uwu

[lyric prism]

yeah i noticed that too ... its really damn weird, FS needs to fix that keystone!

[rare storm]

Yes, up to a total of 31 stacks iirc

[queen trout]

i wanna see something taking dot from burn, soulblaze and bleed

but i dont think you can do all 3 on 1 character

[spice veldt]

ye

[rare storm]

One day sibling, one day...

[lyric prism]

also little funfact @rare storm brain burst counts as a headshot 😉 so if something is just out of range for you to normally get, pop them 🙂 gets you 3 stacks

[spice veldt]

creeping flamers/perilous combustion + bleed knife + infernus laspistol/recon lasgun

[rare storm]

Oh that's interesting, never noticed that

[lyric prism]

its why i run the saber and las pistol, both attack super fast so sometimes i whiff the headshot, but still get 3 stacks cause brain burst

like i had games where people forgot i was a psyker since i never use brainburst with this build, which is my only warp attack

[rare storm]

Yeah that's about my melee build rn, I run the d4 and the vraks mk7

[queen trout]

i suppose but 6 stacks isnt too empressive damage wise and perious combustion isnt reliable to add more

its kind of a meme anyway

[spice veldt]

oh as in something to bring into a real game?

bloodletter chainsword then

[lyric prism]

this be my boy

[queen trout]

purg + bloodletter but then no burn

[rare storm]

This set was the best buy I made in the game lmao

[rare storm]

infernus laspistol

[queen trout]

but then no purg for reliable soulblaze pepehands

[lyric prism]

people dont know this, but the duel sword is a great weapon for kriegsmen cosplay, as dueling swords looks like sabres, which are worn by kriegsmen regularely in their cavelary days! ... little lore dump here for those that were interested

[rare storm]

Right wtf am I talking about

hm...

I guess ya, what Arcotash mentioned, get perilous+creeping flames

[queen trout]

need to add a + soulblaze on crit perk lol

[spice veldt]

kidnap a psyker from here to run purg

[rare storm]

If there's a special/elite hoard you can get maybe 9 stacks of soulblaze + 6 creeping for 15

Then spam out infernus las pistol for burn

[dark stag]

Does DH have armor?

[queen trout]

bosses are kinda easy if you build for them but i just wanna see how fast one would melt with full stacks from all dots

[spice veldt]

they count as Unyielding all over

[lyric prism]

here for those that care more for the on print evidence

[queen trout]

no, is unyielding

[rare storm]

Really would be this but SUPER SUPER SUPER conditional if you want to self apply all forms of dots to a boss

I mean if you're dedicated you can set a fake scenario in the pyskarium lmao

[queen trout]

btw what would happen if i accidently used creature spawner in a game?

[rare storm]

You can try and let us know

[spice veldt]

doesn't do anything sadly

[queen trout]

i disable it cause i dont want to hit a bad button and get banned lol

oh good

[lyric prism]

i would honestly love a mode where a player was the game director

would be kinda neat but i would dread the cheese

[queen trout]

oops all trappers

[spice veldt]

i don't think any current mod can get you banned besides for bad behavior

[lyric prism]

question

empathic evasion, could that trigger riposte and precognition by just critting?

[rotund dagger]

I just imagined a psyker summoning a mass of warp energy that manifested as a cartoon black iron bomb, which he placed into the hands of a scab gunner

[queen trout]

if dodging ranged attacks proccs precog and someone actually shoots at you in that 1 second then maybe

[lyric prism]

wait. . i need to be shot at WHILE critting someone to make the perk effective? doesnt make that empathic evasion kinda meh?

[rare storm]

Er in theory yes, but you need to be shot at while doing a crit

[rare storm]

It depends largely on what you're using it with

[queen trout]

well empathic evasion just makes it as if you were dodging against ranged for that second so youd still need to dodge an actual shot for it to proc those blessings

[rare storm]

Surge - single target but high crit, it's okay, you can avoid some shots

Purg - you literally crit 5x every half sec you hold your m2

[proven stirrup]

Picture taken moments before disaster

[rare storm]

and you become immune to ranged dmg

[lyric prism]

i can hear the deamon host cackeling

[queen trout]

assuming it would porcc them anyway

[lyric prism]

oh so not really all that hot on my las pistol and sabre ... hm

[proven stirrup]

I'd have given it a try if I were on my ogryn or psyker at the time

But we were 3 vets and a zealot

[queen trout]

does soulblaze count as warp damage for this?

[rare storm]

yes

[queen trout]

neat

[rare storm]

To be fair, the zealot should have been able to hold some time

I guess

I think?

[lyric prism]

my block tank psyker wants a word

[rare storm]

Oh wait were you the guy stacking every toughness/toughness reduc node lol

[lyric prism]

uh idk if i am

but this is my boy:

if that makes you recognise him

[rare storm]

Ehh I don't remember the character, I remember the tree

It was a keystoneless all toughness/toughness dmg reduction tree

[lyric prism]

nope not mine 😄

is that even good?

mine is just tanky cause he can block whole tertium before he falls

[rare storm]

Was interesting lmao, the guy was trying to get block efficiency on his illisi or something (not sure why he couldn't)

[brazen warren]

I mean, kinetic defelction already gives massive block bonuses

I wish we had a node that gave more push radius/force

[rare storm]

Yeah, I honestly can't remember what the guy was going for, he disappeared after he posted his tree lol

[worn cape]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a8537c5-5d5b-4ac0-9650-7eb4d03ddd1d/definitely-not-tzeentch

getting myself ready for aurics and I've had great succes with this build in normal damnations but want to run it by others before I go on to the big leagues. riposte is just what I ended up with on the sword, curios are just the best I have atm (that 15% curio chance is a wasted spot for example) so those two areas are definitely somewhere I'd love input. Beyond that, just any suggestions on pretty much any aspect are welcome. Intent is to be focused on horde clear but with the versatility to cover whatever may be needed while also having some utility in the telekine dome.

primarily looking at crit focused purgatus with assail to deal with roving bands of elites and far off shooters and such.

[rare storm]

Holy paragraph

[brazen warren]

in fire reborn is probably not optimal but you can make it work with purg

[worn cape]

i've been flamed for build help in other communities (different games) for not being detailed enough in my request, it's just built into me now

[rare storm]

this would be uneccessary on the purg staff, if anything maniac/flak/unyielding would be much better

[worn cape]

haven't tested it with psychic vampire yet but I could see where that might avereage out better

[rare storm]

other than that, I'd take out quickshards and one of the toughness nodes to get warp rider

Since it will affect your soulblaze damage more

[worn cape]

I was hoping to use that but couldn't figure out what to give up. I'll give that a go

[winter siren]

i highly rec stacking sniper resist. 60% will let you tank a shot barely scratching your hp. i rarely go hp and toughness, usually i focus toughness. deimos is alright but i usually use illisi with fire or a mk4 dueling sword for easy headshots with great crit.

[worn cape]

may be different in auric, but so far I've had a lot of success popping the dome to intercept sniper shots

[winter siren]

its the ones that hit you in the middle of a fight that crack you, not the ones when you have time to shield imo

the shield anim can get you hit in melee

[rare storm]

weird, why is the max health and toughness on these 25 and 20

[brazen warren]

as for relics you can choose between sniper resist or gunner resist

[winter siren]

gunner resist is imo less useful as the pain of gunners comes from the suppression and cc, which traps you in the damage

taking less damage while you are already kinda boned feels less useful

[spice veldt]

prob just gameslantern deciding to list it that way

[worn cape]

would same blessings and health, toughness, and sniper resist perks be optimal then?

[brazen warren]

snipers are not as bad for me because I can usually avoid them regardless of the combat scenario, but a squad of 5+ gunners just dakka mode into a fight is cancer

[spice veldt]

they buffed gunner damage with patch 13 and elites pop up more often nowadays

[rare storm]

sniper resist?

just dodge

[spice veldt]

i wouldn't maybe stack 2x or 3x gunner res because of diminishing returns from multiplicative stacking, but 20% DR against gunners for a single perk sounds like a decent deal

[brazen warren]

when you play, how much are you using assail in the match?

[winter siren]

idk, i just suppress gunners with my surge staff with TB and flurry

[spice veldt]

if your playstyle and build doesn't require it, then go for it

[worn cape]

not a ton, but it comes up to pop far off shooters or a cluster of elites.

[strong gulch]

Sniper resist for when you're dropping from a ledge or being thrown by a mutant. 🥲

[spice veldt]

but I think as a general piece of advice, gunner res is fine to take especially if comparing to other options

[brazen warren]

you can drop the sub nodes on assail then for 2 more points

and if you drop the +15 toughness at the top you can get deflector and warp rider

[strong gulch]

I could just get guud but I'm committed to mediocrity.

[brazen warren]

the wombo combo

[heady garnet]

Best staff to get the serial killer penance?

[brazen warren]

BB with empower, all headshots

[winter siren]

those ones where you see the laser arent so much the problem, its when you are fighting and you just get cracked in the back with no warning. or a sniper flicks from someone else to you and just insta shoots you

[rare storm]

void

[rare storm]

I've built an instinctual habit of just dodging when I hear the sniper sound now tbh

[brazen warren]

void is actually not great for serial killer because of the aoe accidental kills

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt https://streamable.com/290mfz

[rare storm]

Doesn't happen often, but when it does, feels like being Neo in the matrix lmao

[lunar hollow]

psyker legs op

[winter siren]

sound channel overflow happens all the time in auric. too many specials spawn and it simply doesnt play all the sounds

[heady garnet]

yeah i had this issue

[rare storm]

Oo fr? I think luck played a huge part then for my end

[strong gulch]

Seeing the laser is a problem for me because it scrambles my brain.

A single line with only two options on where the sniper could be; and yet I get wrong almost every time.

[heady garnet]

does assail always headshot if you aim it

[rare storm]

but also do note that the void's m2 charged hitbox is actually alot lower than you can see

So aim a fair bit higher

[heady garnet]

sweats

i think this is the only general penance i have no progress on

[rare storm]

Er yes, but you have to keep aiming at it

[heady garnet]

damn wack

wait could just brain burst 20 times in a row

[spice veldt]

i'm proud of you son

[worn cape]

it's honestly not bad. close your distance using our wonderful brain shield on the sword, then go bananas on them close up

[heady garnet]

[rare storm]

then you'd ideally want to take out the etheral shards node

[spice veldt]

assail doesn't always headshot

[rare storm]

since that might transition to body hits

[spice veldt]

even with the RMB

it's random for the most part

[lunar hollow]

i was sweatin so hard trying to remember if the DH disappears when everyone else is down or if its when they die

[brazen warren]

2 deaths and it leaves

[winter siren]

take a surge and a mk4 dueling sword. charge and surge to cc them then walk up and h1 to the face

[lunar hollow]

i didnt even know thats what i was going to do to survive

until after i hit the dropdown

i just started running with no plan

[heady garnet]

whats the major difference between deimos and dueling sword?

I recently picked up a banger deimos and was amazed by how much the charge attack fucks

[brazen warren]

reapers are fairly hard to stagger and closing the gap can be tricky, but actually killing them with melee if fairly easy

[winter siren]

deimos you have to l1 then h to get the headshot. dueling sword h1 is a great headshot

[spice veldt]

they have similar roles

[heady garnet]

I've never had an issue dealing with them, the only reason why I'm curious is because i noticed that there was a penance

[spice veldt]

i don't recommend using the special on the deimos unless you know what exactly to use it for

[brazen warren]

deimos requires a charge animation to get the same damage as headshots from DS

[lyric burrow]

It threw me off that your dodges went up at first

[heady garnet]

might farm that one out

[spice veldt]

2nd heavy

[lunar hollow]

im the only man based enough to use a dodge counter that counts up

[lyric burrow]

My bad didn't realize you were like that

[brazen warren]

its a trade off, less mobility and defence for ease of use on your damage, or only headshots slap with better dodges

[rare storm]

Count up is superior I agree

[winter siren]

deimos strength is in using L1 then heavy after, one of the hardest hitting melees in the game. dueling sword you can just H combo for great headshot damage consistently

[lunar hollow]

harken later apologized for sandbagging

[heady garnet]

I should've gotten warp battery before the talent rework

I was so foolis

[lunar hollow]

he was on xbox so i respect the hustle

[dark stag]

Ok so let's you're a very good player and wake up the DH, but survive for like a minute with it on you, would I have redeemed myself?

[harsh urchin]

josho is a cheater

[heady garnet]

Also am I going crazy or are there like, zero investigation/repair 5s

[harsh urchin]

uses mods for an unfair advantage 😔

[strong gulch]

If you hit the head with dueling special, you can stagger things.

Surprisingly defensive if you need to pause and enemy.

[lunar hollow]

i mean if u can wake it up and kite it that's better than dying

[heady garnet]

I've never tried anything but illisi and deimos

def need to branch out

[lunar hollow]

the special also chains really fast from a heavy too

[spice veldt]

seems like they buffed the obs/deimos's special against unarmoured/maniac/unyielding

[dark stag]

oh no the thing is that I did die, after that mentioned minute, but hey at least only I died xd

[lyric burrow]

Yeah special > heavy is like dummy quick

[lunar hollow]

so u can start a fight vs a rager with a h1 -> special and be relatively safe

[lyric burrow]

I use it on mk2

To get h1 repeat

[lunar hollow]

it also chains fast from lights

but ds lights are not why ur using the sword really

[lunar hollow]

happens to the best of us

[silk hawk]

That's why mk2 is top 🙂

[lyric burrow]

Esp now that your guaranteed to get at least one a game

[spice veldt]

though the mk2's h1 has less base damage than mk4's heavies for no reason

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its unfort

[lunar hollow]

there really shouldve been like

[spice veldt]

at least not while that remains true, I wouldn't say that the mk2 is definitively at the top

[lunar hollow]

1 dueling sword

not 3

[clear heath]

damn that's weird

[silk hawk]

Mk2 heavy-light loop is even faster if u dont try to stagger

[dark stag]

Wait so for dueling sword if you wanna horde clear should you heavy or light spam?

[silk hawk]

Light

[lyric burrow]

It doesnt really horde clear

But lights are better

[spice veldt]

damn the mk2's h2 isn't better than lightspam?

[lyric burrow]

If your running like a scriers build lights can horde clear

[dark stag]

oh so I should be trying to horde clear with my purg instead actually?

[harsh urchin]

you want to use combination of push attacks and lights to make space so you can horde clear properly

yes

lol

[lyric burrow]

Nah

[dark stag]

Well let's say enemies sneak on me sometimes xd

[lyric burrow]

Lights just do better in my exp

[heady garnet]

i grabbed this from melks, anything i should change/swap on it?

[spice veldt]

the optimal strat is to wave your mouse wildly on the purg

[heady garnet]

As the classic flame sprinkler

[spice veldt]

the timer on soulblaze application/direct damage is per-enemy

[winter siren]

also dueling sword mk4 use H1 then immediately special every time for bonus hit with stagger. its a super fast thrust followed by a 2nd thrust

[heady garnet]

As I side note, has anyone else gotten nothing but devil's claw in their melk shop the past few days

[half turtle]

ok i baited myself into trying to melee solo a bon with bleed knife and i gottem but also ended with like 25 max hp at the end

[harsh urchin]

I like the 5's heavies

feels like a real saber

rather than a rapier

shame it does like 40% less dmg

[strong gulch]

The slugs in my yard like cat kibble. Maybe we can distract bon bon with some of it.

[winter siren]

when will people learn how to tank the plogryn? only need 1 person to tank and another to backstab. and just stay right up against his knees so he never breaks from the slowest and easiest to dodge attacks

[half turtle]

it's scary you have to like stand next to him and he's big

[stone spindle]

I picked up this beautiful auto pistol

Got 25 percent unarmored as the first perk, need to get more plasteel

Any idea what the god roll on this would look like

[acoustic osprey]

It was flaniac, pinning, and blaze away. Dunno if it changed

[stone spindle]

Good to hope for at least. Thank you!

[west stream]

got a nice revolver and lasgun for my gun psyker

not ideal but nothing ever is

now to get staves for non gun!

[brazen warren]

I cant vibe with the standard lasgun variants at all, the recoil when ads is extremely uncomfortable

[west stream]

laspistol*

I dont like the aesthetic of lasgun on psyker

so havent tried em recently

[winter siren]

powderburn is worth looking it. pinning got nerfed but is still alright.

[west stream]

laspistol shove is nice

[spice veldt]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1AjpfCeclREVZ7/d133792zUu1n?invite=cr-MSxtcFcsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[winter siren]

suppression is really strong

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/xnfp7w

[strong gulch]

Look at that dog park.

[lunar hollow]

this is cooler

[spice veldt]

nuh uh

[stable silo]

do i...do i live the dream and become the meme ?

[lunar hollow]

if you are faced with an infinite series of fights versus a singular hound

ur gonna wish u had a shovel

and the fish of the dog punching world champion

[strong gulch]

yee

[lunar hollow]

i meant to write fist

but fish sounds even funnier

i wish ogryn got a fish weapon like the one from tf2

[worn cape]

scrier's gaze that thing and go nuts

[hollow socket]

can anyone join me for a very quick penance of knocking 7 enemies off ledge at the start of Chasm Logistratum can repay the same back

[stable silo]

fffffffffffffffff anyone whos in aruic dam your in for a scare

[strong gulch]

IDk what darktide would do with fish enemies.

[stable silo]

does perfect timing effect soulfire ?

[visual prism]

how much hp does dome shield have?

[shell igloo]

The "health" is apparently "20", per the patch 14 notes. I'd imagine this could be 20 hits? It's not very clear to me

[tacit flicker]

they definitely take more hits than 20 shots from a gunner

[visual prism]

does it still give the 50% dmg reduction when it gets destroyed before the 17.5s duration?

yea lol for sure. reapers were wailing on the dome and its def more than 20 hits, but it also ddnt last the full duration. 😄

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message

yeah it's the # of hits

[visual prism]

oh dang

well thank god for the 0.33s of invul after every hit cuz if not dome will be useless in damnation 😄

[shell igloo]

Quickmaths: that's about 7 seconds of duration under the worst possible conditions

[heady garnet]

Do weaker monstrosities from the modifier count for the redacted penance

[rare storm]

For malleus monstronum? Hear say yes since apparently it works for other class penances

[heady garnet]

aight ty

[brazen warren]

keep in mind even with an SG build the soul blaze stacks will only help you on things that can live for more than 3 hits as the base spread is dog

does soulblaze compare to burn for boss dps?

[west stream]

is brain rupture just no that popular?

barely see builds for it, but achievement is there

[stone spindle]

I take a build for it with empowered psionics

I like it

[brazen warren]

mallus monstorum only works with base blitz so far as i know

not rupture

but rupture is fine with empower now, you can pop maulers in 1 hit

[stable silo]

fire sword is naut so good

im sorry team

[blazing echo]

I run BB all the time. Great anti boss weapon, anti Ogryn and countersnipe tool. Love it

[marble locust]

Uncanny or Rampage?

[blazing echo]

I Peril out w BB on the boss then Shriek and it's normally dead before I Peril out again

[strong gulch]

My favorite build uses BB, but I don't love BB in and of itself.

[strong gulch]

Keep uncanny.

Shred, riposte, and rampage are more of a preference or what you are trying to set up.

Uncanny is the anchor.

[marble locust]

I'm screwing around with a melee Gaze build so who knows how it works

[strong gulch]

Shred takes time to get max crit chance but is easy to maintain.

Riposte gets you there faster and can affect your ranged if the buff is still active. Have to keep dodging tho.

Rampage is easier to maintain due to cleave buffs. Increases power and damage, but requires hitting 3 enemies to proc.

[silk hawk]

U press gaZe and start swingin...

[heady garnet]

ONE MORE

[rare storm]

ooo so it does work with weakened monstrosities?

Congrats

[heady garnet]

There weren't any missions up, I just know a shield ogyrn with a good heart and we fished for demon hosts lol

I did it to a plague ogryn first in a 4 man but forgot to turn on private mission 😭

[brave fiber]

i just gotta do malleus monstronum and im done with all my penances, but am lonely

[rare storm]

Ahh I see, how'd you convince the randos

kek

o right private

[brave fiber]

literally did all of the other ones by accident lol

[heady garnet]

can regular penances be done in private missions?

[brave fiber]

id assume so

[rare storm]

Same, I somehow can't finish cliffhanger for the life of me

I finished warp battery before that lmao

but then again, have not tried for it

[heady garnet]

just gotta choose the right map

[brave fiber]

i have no idea when where or how i did cliffhanger but im glad its done

[heady garnet]

what would you guys say are the best maps for warp battery?

least running, waiting, etc

[brave fiber]

remind me which one that one is again

forgot what exactly each one is

[heady garnet]

keep 4 warp charges for 5 min

[brave fiber]

ah

[silk hawk]

Imagine being able to speak to people, right?

[heady garnet]

and I'm also debating between running vampire or fire reborn

It was honestly a dream team

Ogyrn tanking demonhost and the 2 others clearing out trash and peeling for me

[brave fiber]

honestly its really easy if you have 6 total i feel, just gotta never use your ability

[rare storm]

Couldn't do it on 6 for me lol, I did it with 4

[brave fiber]

theres no difference other than initially building stacks

[heady garnet]

true

[rare storm]

I don't think the map really matters, I did it on the torrent

[brave fiber]

because realistically youre only draining 1 or 2 at worst between fights

[rare storm]

I feel the game is out for me when it knows I'm doing warp battery

[heady garnet]

should've been a node that increases the duration smh

[rare storm]

My worst long running timings were on 6 charges

[brave fiber]

are you running it on damnnation btw

[heady garnet]

yeah, I assumed there are more enemies

[brave fiber]

yea def

im prob just really lucky to be completely honest

[spice veldt]

i personally got mines on consignment yard

[rare storm]

I think you can try the specialist waves maelstrom for warp battery

[spice veldt]

the particularly linear maps will probably be the best for it

and the ones with long stretches without airlocks

[rare storm]

Hope you get the one with muties and keep perma stacks with the duelies

[heady garnet]

[brave fiber]

i think a lot of the issue with warp battery is your team kills elites before you do

[rare storm]

o mine was on Magistrati Oubliette

[heady garnet]

I'm praying with a high intensity map soul blaze would carry me

10% is pretty big

soul blaze and assail maybe idk

[rare storm]

Nah, sniping elites with bb is the way

Since it's a guaranteed charge

[brave fiber]

switch to the 4% chance, its a lot better honestly

it means that even if your team steals kills theres a chance you get charges anyway

[rare storm]

Except when the game knows...... the 4% might as well be 0

[worn cypress]

it will carry you but +1 to taking the 4%

[heady garnet]

+1?

oh very true

gosh idk what staff would be best

nomanus fucks but i wouldn't be able to take EP

[rare storm]

So many times... I see my zealot in a horde, praying to get the charge before it fades away

Never came...

[brave fiber]

also just a personal thought, 4% on every single kill is a LOT better than 10% on only YOUR soul blaze kills

[rare storm]

[heady garnet]

maybe voidstrike?

nomanus is just so fking easy to use though

[brave fiber]

nomanus?

[heady garnet]

surge

[brave fiber]

ah

am dumb

i forgot they have a full name

[blazing echo]

I do favour the Purg but I wish the Psyker staffs didn't piss off other players so much.
Purg and Surge tank framerates or blind the area
Voidstrike is like infinite ammo plasma.

[brave fiber]

voidstrike and trauma feel kinda boring to use to me tbh

which is unfortunate because theyre by far the best

without surge bug ofc

[marble locust]

Flamer feels much more boring than Void to me

[blazing echo]

This was my Surge this evening. It is using the Emp Psionics issue tho

[marble locust]

Void just if you have good teamates keeping stuff off of you it is just a pinball machine lighting up

[brave fiber]

see for me with void it just feels like im using an empowered staff m1

[strong gulch]

If this is talking about In Fire Reborn, you or an ally killing an enemy affected by soulblaze give you a chance at gaining a warp charge.

What I don't know is if it has to be YOUR soulblaze and if allies have to be in coherency.

It's rather inconsistent tho.

[blazing echo]

I like it for Horde management and in a pinch it will take out Crushers in the horde too.
Its fascinating for me as everyone has their fave staff and for good reasons but it's so often different each time

[marble locust]

Your Soulblaze it says Killing an enemy which means you.

[heady garnet]

if i see another flame psyker my mental breaks idk why

[marble locust]

Allies are irrelevant for cohencey on Fire reborn

[brave fiber]

see the wording is so weird, is it killing an enemy WITH soulblaze, or killing an enemy that HAS soulblaze

because it seems like its the former

[blazing echo]

Your mental breaks?

[strong gulch]

Just has to be affected by soulblaze. Enemy doesn't have to die by soulblaze.

[marble locust]

I have 3 near perfect staves, it goes Void>Flamer>Surge

It still has to be you killing the enemy which with that build most of the time will be via soulblaze

[brave fiber]

big if true, still seems like youd only want to ever take that one over the 4% one when you have purgatus tho

[blazing echo]

Shriek has an optional soulblaze buff, might help you

[strong gulch]

You can test it in the meat grinder with bot spawner mod.

Just because a tooltip says a thing doesn't mean that's how it fucntions. This is darktide afterall.

[marble locust]

@Bipolar you can fool around with it with a Sword like that one

[brave fiber]

darktide already turns my pc into an easy bake oven i dont know if thats a good idea

[strong gulch]

Still, In Fire Reborn is very inconsistent.

You can get all of your warp charges back right away or melt an entire horde and still not be refilled.

[brave fiber]

to be fair that applies to every chance based perk in the game

[marble locust]

On High Intensity I keep them up except during event that slow down the spawn

[brave fiber]

also DAMN wtf is that sword roll

bro IS rngesus

[marble locust]

@brave fiber Take your choice on staff too. Ironic thing is Psycher has only 162 Auric missions completed the least of my toons Zealot being 166 vet 195, and Orgyn 206

Rng is sadly rng and you'll probably get a perfect on the thing you play the least.

[brave fiber]

isnt run n gun not that great? cant imagine taking it over flurry or nexus

[marble locust]

I don't have nexus for Surge or the Pruga grinding them both atm