Too bad bubble won't let you survive crusher overhead.
#psyker-class
plucky flax
still hearth
It will however stun muties
Even if it shouldn't
As long as you hit them in the bubble
glossy bough
Wat
still hearth
glossy bough
Really?
glossy bough
That's so funky
still hearth
And can't run around objects
plucky flax
Bubble is very strong against bonbon tho.
glossy bough
I crutch on bubble so hard these days lmao
still hearth
Bubble hard counters snipers, trappers, flamers, bombers and bonbon
glossy bough
I think I'm becoming a worse player for how much I just bubble out of bad situations haha
still hearth
It also makes tank Ogryns basically immortal
glossy bough
"I am a generous god"
glossy bough
My friends aren't ready for damnation yet, so I haven't gotten to really test stuff there
sudden trellis
how do you guys get matched with people that aren't allergic to coherency bonuses
glossy bough
I need to lfg around here I suppose
glossy bough
how do you guys get matched with people that aren't allergic to coherency bonuse...
God I know lmao
still hearth
There's only two coherency bonuses in the game though
+1% ammo
And +17.5% cooldown reduction
sudden trellis
i could never get the mandatory 3 veteran randoms to be within 60 feet of each other
still hearth
The rest are basically nonexistant
sudden trellis
so the bubble feels redundant
glossy bough
Honestly the bubble has been good for random new people to give them a clear, selfish thing to rally to
Yeah
plucky flax
I'm the loner zealot. What is coherency I bring my own coherency. 
glossy bough
If a loner zealot is out killing shit, will that trigger the % chance of a psyker to get warp charges from their kills
sage glacier
winton
still hearth
No
still hearth
They should make it "Survivor" and make it give bonuses to everyone the less allies you have alive
glossy bough
Legit if we're all turtled on the point and the zealot fucks off to the seventh corner of the earth and gets trappered, I'm not going out there for them
still hearth
Zealots gotta do what Zealots do
plucky flax
Stop loner zealot hate. 
glossy bough
If you want to selfishly run off and do hero shit, cool, survive and prove you can handle it, I'm not killing myself to save skill issues
plucky flax
glossy bough
All love
still hearth
If you want to selfishly run off and do hero shit, cool, survive and prove you c...
It's okay I'll throw you off the map with barrels
You have no choice
glossy bough
I'm falling with style
plucky flax
I only play loner stealth zealot now because my teammates refuse to do objectives.
glossy bough
That's a real thing
plucky flax
Especially the new hab dreyko end event.
glossy bough
Yeah that makes sense, my irritation is more with the ones who just park their asses in front of the door where the zombies spawn, 60 meters away, for no reason, just chopping until they get dogged
wet belfry
I personally can appreciate players that do stay out of coherency, if they arent dying.
half turtle
ok bleed knife fucks
at least, with trauma and bb where it perfectly covers the weaknesses of the build
ez space creation and repositioning for trauma, ez mutant and boss dps
potent echo
is this bait 
gray python
Hey guys, im new to the Game, and i rly love the psyker over all classes haha
But..i cant decide me for a tree..i played much the assail build..
If i tryed Smite we lost often because the dmg was to low (Focus from others dd was Bad)
And BB i dont have any gametime with it..can h help me?
Also what kind of staff..i rlye Like the fire for Horde..litjning i Like also..
And Trauma is also sick..
Barrier or shilds? Or maybe the knockback? I would like to build a bit Support but also wanna Deals a good amount of DMG tbh
vagrant frigate
gun
proven belfry
Hey guys, im new to the Game, and i rly love the psyker over all classes haha
B...
try it all first. you got the psykhanium too
plucky flax
Keep trying stuff. Even when you hit level 30 that's when the real game begins and you can try even more stuff.
Then you can fine tune your build.
glossy bough
Psyker has lots of good loadouts, the main thing I'd advise is to try to make your melee weapon, ranged weapon, and blitz (brain burst, smite, or Assail) handle the main enemy types between them
gray python
Im still 30^^
Psykhanium? What does it mean haha..i need to install the game to english ^^ haha
glossy bough
For example if you want to run purge staff, you might want to bring the Deimos force sword to kill heavy armor guys, and you could bring Assail or Brain Burst to pick off far-away enemies
Psykers are good at having an answer for everything. Your answers won't be as crazy as a zealot thunderhammer one shot, but you should never be helpless or ineffective against any enemy
cyan notch
Im still 30^^
Psykhanium? What does it mean haha..i need to install the game to...
training room
gray python
Okay, bc in most viedeos they said duelling sword or chainsaw sometimes the sword that increase also Piller
gray python
training room
Gotcha thx
cedar remnant
yeah, those videos almost never mention deimos sword but it's awesome
gray python
Okay good to know that i cant Play(build) that KĆ¼che wrong
I guess also two times was guys talking to me and said never use assail..ITS uslsess as shiii*
glossy bough
My personal comfort build is Surge staff for stunning and heavy armor, Illisi sword for horde clear, Assail for picking off shooters and elites, Bubble for team defense, and Warp Charges for more damage and bubble cooldown
gray python
yeah, those videos almost never mention deimos sword but it's awesome
I will Check this out, also thx to sinister for help btw
glossy bough
Assail got nerfed but it's still really really good
cedar remnant
lol, assail is like cheat tbh with decent damage and braindead clear
unique mist
@gray python Smite is a crowd control tool, great for high difficulties to stop enemies in their tracks while your teammates kill them but its damage is low so will not get many kills itself and as I said will rely on having good teammates who know what to do
I use it to good effect in high difficulty missions
Thats what I run with it^
cedar remnant
smite psykers are bae, they make the mission so easy
gray python
smite psykers are bae, they make the mission so easy
But never use BB in Bosse..dont get IT tbh..
On*
unique mist
my main strategy when I need to clear a low health mob horde by myself is to use my shriek ability to set them all on soul fire and then smite them so they are held by my smite and it deals a bit of damage to them while the soul fire deals a majority of damage and kills them
empowered psionics needs to reduce peril gen of smite by 30% for the duration of the cast i swear
gray python
<@358227870969233412> Smite is a crowd control tool, great for high difficulties...
Yea like i Said, often i died because No DMG or Zone from orgyn comes..
unique mist
needs a buff
cedar remnant
But never use BB in Bosse..dont get IT tbh..
use smite to control the crowds and rely on your sword or staff for monstries
gray python
my main strategy when I need to clear a low health mob horde by myself is to use...
I guess its a good comp and Helped me also with horde but If ITS not up and Nobody ist helping me i struggle Sometimes.. also the Range units r demolishing our Team..but its Not my fault there such Bad luck tbh
gray python
use smite to control the crowds and rely on your sword or staff for monstries
Yea thats what i learned today..ist looked many high arsenic mahltsrom..so i got a feeling to play stand move and Focus..
cedar remnant
blocks using peril talent coupled with high dodge values of force swords and dueling sword makes you a really good tank btw
use them to get away from sticky situations
gray python
Yea tbh i dont block that much..i tryed more do dodge...i have to "learn" this..
Is there a good BB build that i can get?
I will log in, and Check also the sword out!
unique mist
use smite to control the crowds and rely on your sword or staff for monstries
Psyker melees really arent for bosses lol
I use surge staff and illisi sword with my smite build
Illisi so nice for horde clear
Too nice
cedar remnant
Psyker melees really arent for bosses lol
special attack and +power for peril generated is a sleeper combo, it hits hard and easy to use in an occasion you are already close to boss and having to block attacks. I'm not saying to go melee charge the chaos spawn
dull root
What are the dump stats on an Illisi?
And what are the preferred perks and blessings for it? Anyone know?
dull root
Nice! And best perks?
unique mist
Some people will try and trick you by saying blazing spirit is a good blessing
It is not
Bloodthirsty is also apparently a good blessing but I havent used it so no idea on that
gray python
Some people will try and trick you by saying blazing spirit is a good blessing
do u have a good BB build for me?
unique mist
Nice! And best perks?
Perks wise? I'd say flak and maniac, or maybe carapace and maniac, carapace flak
dull root
Thanks, I'll take those suggestions into account when crafting!
unique mist
Illisi dump stat is warp resistantance
unique mist
do u have a good BB build for me?
I havent used this one much, BB isn't good right now, especially when compared to staffs
I'll see
dull root
this is what I am currently using
unique mist
this is what I am currently using
Thats pretty good
gray python
i heared warifre is a good passiv?
unique mist
i heared warifre is a good passiv?
Is that the one that spreads soulblaze when you kill a soulblaze target
Because its not great IMO, I run it on my smite build but I'll probably switch off it
It just doesn't do enough
only applies like 1 stack of soulblaze which is literally nothing
gray python
opkay check. yea it is btw
maiden barn
what could be the reason for brainburst blowing me up even though I started it at 97%? I didnt hold it for a long time or anything
was it some strange sort of latency issue or am I missing some sort of mechanic
kind jay
its a mechanic. you most likely had over 97% (its in decimals and you can see it with a mod)
severe laurel
Hey all, is blazing spirit any good on Voidstrike?
eternal junco
what could be the reason for brainburst blowing me up even though I started it a...
Did you start charging after 97%?
Or did you bb someone at 97%?
viscid matrix
Hey all, is blazing spirit any good on Voidstrike?
its alright, Surge is better, and you combo either surge or blazing with Warp Nexus
kind jay
for bb you should be able to cast it once above 97 without exploding and twice to explode (some old ass fatshark mechanic)
eternal junco
for bb you should be able to cast it once above 97 without exploding and twice t...
yeah it should give you the grace at 100%
viscid matrix
also during the boom animation, you can use Venting Shriek and prevent the boom
eternal junco
Venting shriek best option ngl
viscid matrix
only when you are new, once you are practiced, you dont need it for peril dump
eternal junco
you can be an absolute menace and build as much peril as you want without having to worry
severe laurel
Thanks El Chialde
eternal junco
only when you are new, once you are practiced, you dont need it for peril dump
yeah but there are situations where you really just want to pump out more death
viscid matrix
you can be an absolute menace and build as much peril as you want without having...
you could be me, i sit at 80% - 100% constantly, i generally use secondary on staves, then tap quell for instant 15% reduction, then do another secondary
edging peril is a skill
dont need peril dump from vent shriek at that point
eternal junco
yeah but that still requires the tap
viscid matrix
staying at high peril gives max bonuses for all blesssings and talents that scale on peril
maiden barn
what could be the reason for brainburst blowing me up even though I started it a...
After some more testing I found out it's because I hit 100% first, then let it naturally decay to 97% then started up another burst. Apparently this does not protect you from a blowup
you have to either manually vent or not have hit 100% first
viscid matrix
always tap quell when at 100%
eternal junco
you don't need the peril quell but it's helpful and it's also crowd cc
viscid matrix
it will instant drop to 85% or so, quell speed changes affect how much you go down
while above 50% your quell speed is higher
maiden barn
yeah I had no idea that was a thing, I thought so long as it's not 100% at the moment you're good to do another
but I guess the danger persists for a bit
eternal junco
redlining as psyker is cool and all until you need to res somebody and you don't have the peril for kinetic deflection
viscid matrix
ahh but at that point, you can quell as you move to them
eternal junco
not if you want to carve a path
potent echo
its not crowd cc its literally kill everything that isnt an elite
maiden barn
yeah I'm testing it further now it looks like the little peril tentacles go away as soon as the natural decay takes peril below 95%
viscid matrix
it just requires practice, staying above 80% is advised for any build that has the toughness and damage talents that scale with peril, along with warp nexus
maiden barn
never made the connection that the tentacles are the que for "you will blow up with another spell"
focused on the percentage too much
maiden barn
yea I always ride 90%+ during gameplay thats why it caught me offguard to blow up
thats exactly what I'm telling you is wrong lel
viscid matrix
you can safely drop down to 80% without loosing the max buffs from peril scaling
maiden barn
if you hit 100% and dont quell, the tentacles persist down to 95% of natural decay
eternal junco
tentacles mean you should probably hold r for a bit
maiden barn
this is false
eternal junco
Or use shriek if you wanna keep slaughtering
viscid matrix
tentacles mean you should probably hold r for a bit
nah just a quick tap will instant drop you down by 15% or so
maiden barn
Do yo uwant me to literally record it for you man
potent echo
go ahead
maiden barn
go into the psykharium, hit 100% triggering the tentacles, then let it tick down to 97%
then cast
blows you up
eternal junco
nah just a quick tap will instant drop you down by 15% or so
yeah but if you get tentacles you're probably overextending
potent echo
the numbers arent real btw
viscid matrix
yeah but if you get tentacles you're probably overextending
i see tentacles after every secondary use with staff š
maiden barn
it happens as low as 96%, at 95% the tentacles seem to remove themselves
it's not a decimal error
it's a mechanic
viscid matrix
tbh without trueperil, latency will still be a issue
potent echo
so your ui might show 95% but in reality its still 98% or something
viscid matrix
if you have above 100 latency, you may get issues with going boom
maiden barn
I guess peril ticking like that makes sense
so when it shows me 96% it's actually still at 100%
potent echo
you wouldnt have an issue if you tap R in between brainbursts
because 1 tick of r is enough to go below critical point
but natural decay is funky
maiden barn
I guess it's not my fault I blew myself up then because fatshark can't code a fucking percentage display to not say 97% when it's actually 100% but it's also my fault for trusting fatshark to code a percentage display
viscid matrix
yeah but if you get tentacles you're probably overextending
Warp Nexus scales with peril, so if you are above 80% you will get max crit chance
same with the toughness damage reduction scaling with peril talent, and the damage peril scaling talent
and unstable power blessing on melee weapons
potent echo
"For example, you may quell from 50% peril to 44% peril in a single tick, but the UI will show it slowly decreasing from 50% to 44% instead of reflecting the instant jump that actually occurred. This mod lets you remove that interpolation/decay, so that the value on the gauge is your exact peril amount."
mod author's quote
viscid matrix
"For example, you may quell from 50% peril to 44% peril in a single tick, but th...
when usinng that mod, if you are not using 2 decimal places, it wont be correct either
it rounds up
or is it rounds down, and you are actually higher than you think
maiden barn
And yea normally I just quell but I was hotswapping between the saber and brainbursting a boss and got owned
viscid matrix
one of the 2
potent echo
1.2 Note on True Peril mod
If you are using the True Peril mod, ensure that you have at least one decimal point enabled for it. This is because with 0 decimals it uses default rounding which is dangerous and inconsistent with "at or below" thresholds since both 96.5% and 97.4% will round to 97% and you have no way of knowing if you are actually at 97% and below, or slightly above it.
The default UI does not have this problem since it always rounds up, so it is guaranteed you are always "at or below" the value you see on the screen.
all the info is online to be found
viscid matrix
yeh, forgot what the exact was
maiden barn
The default UI does not have this problem since it always rounds up, so it is guaranteed you are always "at or below" the value you see on the screen.
doesn't my test straight up prove this false
oh wait you're talking about the decimal point
the interpolation still can trick you and lie to you
and get you blown up
evidently
viscid matrix
doesn't my test straight up prove this false
Do you have high ping?
summer prairie
interpolated peril should always be higher than actual peril
viscid matrix
evidently
Iāve never had that happen, but Iāve seen some others have it happen every time
maiden barn
I have shit framerates if that plays into it
viscid matrix
I can guarantee it never happens to me, I only go boom when I make a mistake and use a warp attack while at 100 cause I fail to tap quell
potent echo
i need to see the 95% exploding though
shy zodiac
Anyone else only play Psyker for the shards attack and Loner Male's voice?
viscid matrix
I have shit framerates if that plays into it
That would do it
What graphics card do you have?
You can also search arcotash in this channel, he has details on how to reduce graphics further than minimum
steel flame
You can do Carapace to unyielding or pox to unyielding
potent echo
>ogryn charges into 7 crushers and 2 reapers
im guessing he didnt solo them
stiff reef
other psyker goes to revive while being pummeled
dies
other other psyker gets shot
gg
heady garnet
You can do Carapace to unyielding or pox to unyielding
Aight i'll give that a shot
stiff reef
im guessing he didnt solo them <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
he just died and spam pinged
viscid matrix
Anyone else only play Psyker for the shards attack and Loner Male's voice?
I actually mainly played surge staff, and Iām not sure what voice I picked
potent echo
good stuff
viscid matrix
Swap groaners to any of unyielding/flak/maniac
steel flame
Aight i'll give that a shot
Unyielding is gonna boost your boss damage, alternatively you can go maniac if you really really really hate ragers
viscid matrix
Unyielding is gonna boost your boss damage, alternatively you can go maniac if y...
Ragers, muties, flamers
strong pilot
what guns are good for gunpsyker?
shy zodiac
I actually mainly played surge staff, and Iām not sure what voice I picked
I'm sensing rage, fear and four shortened lifespans... No, not foreshortened lifespans, I said four shortened lifespans! Why are you not paying attention?! Look at me! Not them!
steel flame
Ragers, muties, flamers
Well las kills specials really fast already.
modest trellis
what guns are good for gunpsyker?
revolver to the head (yours)
potent echo
unyielding isnt rager 
steel flame
.....
potent echo
ok nvm im stupid
steel flame
Ok good
potent echo
you hate rager but like only dreg rager
shy zodiac
Loner Male Psyker sounding like a schizophrenic mad high pitch voice is equal parts awesome and my personal headcanon for psyker voice
stiff reef
literal next map
heady garnet
Unyielding is gonna boost your boss damage, alternatively you can go maniac if y...
Is this weapon a special killer or a horde killer? Should I be running deimos or illisi? I'm assuming the standard SP DD Assail crit build?
stiff reef
3 min in
viscid matrix
ripe crater
Ability to change voice should be a thing. That, or shared inventories - wouldn't mind making a new operative.
viscid matrix
<a:checkpins:1033083791847202827>
Check pins for what each mob type is
stiff reef
Why do people charge into 8 crushers if they cant melee
steel flame
what guns are good for gunpsyker?
I prefer laspistol, but other people like revolver and vraks 7, shredder is still decent, and people still vouch for recon (no clue what model)
viscid matrix
Is this weapon a special killer or a horde killer? Should I be running deimos or...
Illisi is horde killer, deimos is single target of the force swords
Duelling sword is single target, devil claw is horde clear of non force swords
potent echo
Laspistol with ghost is fun, revolver can kill carapace with handcannon blessing
stiff reef
what class do i play if my random teammates cant melee and just die to anything with armor?
potent echo
Also has alot of cleave and bullet magnetism
viscid matrix
Laspistol with ghost is fun, revolver can kill carapace with handcannon blessing
Hand cannon affects assail if you weapon swap
heady garnet
@viscid matrix I should've specified, I was wondering if the laspistol was for hordes or elites
So I can chose a melee weapon that does the other
potent echo
what class do i play if my random teammates cant melee and just die to anything ...
Play auric damnation, usually you would get better players
viscid matrix
<@140306526215602176> I should've specified, I was wondering if the laspistol wa...
Tbh for gunker, you want to go single target for guns
steel flame
Laspistol with ghost is fun, revolver can kill carapace with handcannon blessing
See I would use ghost but empathic evasion kinda does its job but better
stiff reef
@potent echo I havent tried auric yet
potent echo
Hand cannon affects assail if you weapon swap
That's so cheesy but use it before it gets patched I guess
shy zodiac
If ever I was to see a Psyker be voiced in a tv show, it'd be by Jonathan Keeble, Greg Jones or Nolan North
viscid matrix
That's so cheesy but use it before it gets patched I guess
Itās been in the game forever
potent echo
See I would use ghost but empathic evasion kinda does its job but better
I use both, just run into ranged encounters blasting
viscid matrix
That's so cheesy but use it before it gets patched I guess
Itās in vermintide 2 as well
potent echo
Infernus is really so marginally good imo I rather have more yolo
Ghost4 on laspistol is 1.2 seconds for some reason so you can chain it alot
viscid matrix
Blessings affecting everything is part of the engine, they affect all blitzes and Soulblaze even if you weapon swap
Only thing that stops it is the duration and the blessing ending
Like BB canāt take advantage cause itās got a too slow cast time
strong pilot
I prefer laspistol, but other people like revolver and vraks 7, shredder is stil...
i've tried the columnus IAG so far
for gunker, it's okayish damage not ogryn levels
steel flame
i've tried the columnus IAG so far
Pygex been saying it's pretty good
Still Rollin for mine
strong pilot
but gunker feels like the only build that can effectively utilize scriers which is interesting, the other interesting mechanic is how it works with your melee as well
potent echo
It's decent but struggles alot vs maulers/crushers/mutants
drowsy slate
So my weapon blessings effect assyle?
potent echo
It absolutely melts if you headshot with it
strong pilot
It's decent but struggles alot vs maulers/crushers/mutants
with the columnus i can deal with maulers and muties just fine
potent echo
But bodyshots take forever
viscid matrix
So my weapon blessings effect assyle?
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
Dueling sword blessing applying after weapon swap, you have 1s to use assail before the blessing ends
steel flame
but gunker feels like the only build that can effectively utilize scriers which ...
If staves other than void actually benefited more from crits .........
potent echo
Just fine yea but there are better options, maybe not for psyker though
strong pilot
If staves other than void actually benefited more from crits .........
is just the peril management with scriers, which i admit i am terrible at
drowsy slate
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
Dueling sword blessing applying after weapon swap,...
Uff
viscid matrix
If staves other than void actually benefited more from crits .........
All staves need crits to be good
Surge has crit damage modifier
Trauma uses blazing spirit for Soulblaze on crit
Void has surge for double tap in crit
Purga applies double stacks of Soulblaze on crit
heady garnet
There's a reason we have so much crit in our tree
viscid matrix
There's a reason we have so much crit in our tree
And also why we love zealots who share thier crit chance on the bottom left keystone
strong pilot
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
Dueling sword blessing applying after weapon swap,...
they need to do something about the performance of the game, i weep for your potato mode
viscid matrix
they need to do something about the performance of the game, i weep for your pot...
Itās not me, itās @spice veldt
He has details on how to lower settings further than the standard minimum in the ingame settings
steel flame
All staves need crits to be good
Surge has crit damage modifier
Trauma uses bl...
Purgatus only gets marginally better at stacking fire with 20% more crit, trauma benefits more from having wildfire and fire shout which you can't get with a scrier and surge already has a 50 crit chance with nexus 4 but has no crit blessings
viscid matrix
they need to do something about the performance of the game, i weep for your pot...
DLSS helps a lot, anyone who can use it should always use it
strong pilot
Itās not me, itās <@297182781346152448>
He has details on how to lower setting...
it looks way worse than l4d2 on medium jfc, developers these days leave everything to upscale tech and even with the crutch they barely make the game perform well for most machines
potent echo
Purgatus only gets marginally better at stacking fire with 20% more crit, traum...
Surge not having surge is just kinda sad
steel flame
It's a crime
viscid matrix
Purgatus only gets marginally better at stacking fire with 20% more crit, traum...
More crit is always good, there is no downside to going higher crit
Scriers is dangerous if you use a staff, but it feels good
viscid matrix
Surge not having surge is just kinda sad
Tbh surge should be on surge staff only š
potent echo
I tried scrier purg on patch13
drowsy slate
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
Dueling sword blessing applying after weapon swap,...
So is that 1sec the rule for every weapon blessing?
potent echo
Really mid
steel flame
Yes it's just guns benefit more from scrier than staves....which was the point originally
potent echo
I really wanted melee psyker though
viscid matrix
So is that 1sec the rule for every weapon blessing?
No itās just the blessing duration that dictates it
Most of the armour shred blessings last 1-3 seconds
potent echo
Uncanny doesn't work if the weapon isn't out
viscid matrix
I really wanted melee psyker though
Melee Scriers build is great
strong pilot
I really wanted melee psyker though
i heard some cool things about scrier and forcesword with quell peril
potent echo
Melee scrier is nice but I want melee talents
frank moat
Tbh surge should be on surge staff only š
But lightning never strikes twice 
potent echo
Faster attack speed at high peril etc
strong pilot
reminds me of UNCHAINEDDDD
viscid matrix
Uncanny doesn't work if the weapon isn't out
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
This proves you are wrong, just have only 1s to get an asail off before it ends due to low duration
potent echo
(even) More stamina Regen
heady garnet
I want a talent that gives me ammo in exchange for peril
potent echo
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
This proves you are wrong, just have only 1s to ge...
I think it works because you have your sword out when the assail hits
strong pilot
I want a talent that gives me ammo in exchange for peril
warp bullets, getting heretical here, sibling
potent echo
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
This proves you are wrong, just have only 1s to ge...
Mainly you can try using purgatus against crusher in the psyk, even with 5 stacks uncanny, the soulblaze damage is only high when your sword is out
I can record now
viscid matrix
I think it works because you have your sword out when the assail hits
Try it out, you donāt have to swap back to sword after asail
zenith zealot
if i want to do a full block psyker for memeing purposes, what melee weapon would be the best to bring for blocking
viscid matrix
ONE MAG IN EXCHANGE FOR 1 WOUND OF CORRUPTION
I have only 2 wounds, I canāt afford to lose one
strong pilot
if i want to do a full block psyker for memeing purposes, what melee weapon woul...
any forcesword with defelector
viscid matrix
if i want to do a full block psyker for memeing purposes, what melee weapon woul...
Illisi or Deimos, Deflector blessing, Block perk
ebon lichen
I have only 2 wounds, I canāt afford to lose one
Incorrect. You have two wounds. You can afford to precisely lose one and only one.
viscid matrix
Incorrect. You have two wounds. You can afford to precisely lose one and only on...
That is usually taken by grimoires, I canāt afford 1
heady garnet
Just force your vet bf to run the corruption cleanse thingy
zenith zealot
Illisi or Deimos, Deflector blessing, Block perk
even tho there are people who say that force sword is the worst for blocking due to the 3 base stam + highest block cost?
viscid matrix
even tho there are people who say that force sword is the worst for blocking due...
Block meme sword
50% block cost reduction, get some extra stamina
We also have peril block cost talent
zenith zealot
i heard that u cant reduce the block cost with block efficiency on force sword, so that's false then?
long wharf
i heard that u cant reduce the block cost with block efficiency on force sword, ...
Where did you hear that?
zenith zealot
here
long wharf
I'd have to see a test video
zenith zealot
"its worse than other weapons block cost and u cant chage the inherent block cost"
is what the guy said
direct copy paste form earlier msges
long wharf
Again, test video trumps everything
What makes force swords superior for blocking is Deflector blessing above all else
Used to get infinite dodges too, but alas
potent echo
Try it out, you donāt have to swap back to sword after asail
you need the sword out
viscid matrix
"its worse than other weapons block cost and u cant chage the inherent block cos...
Who and where? Cause in my experience, only ogryn can block for longer than a psyker
zenith zealot
Who and where? Cause in my experience, only ogryn can block for longer than a ps...
well, i might be mistaken since he didnt specifically replied to my msg when i ask if even block eff does not effect it, and there was a lot of other shxt going on
viscid matrix
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1BsNhuXad9EG2v/d1337m6NZb9...
I guess I thought uncanny worked the same way as Hand Cannon does
zenith zealot
but this may have been his response "u can but dont expect to tank 2 ragers combos"
viscid matrix
but this may have been his response "u can but dont expect to tank 2 ragers comb...
Best bet check the guide in the pins, itās updated regularly, and everything is tested
zenith zealot
Best bet check the guide in the pins, itās updated regularly, and everything is ...
yeah reading thro it as we speak
zenith zealot
How does one avoid getting chewed on by a Chaos Spawn
get close, and get away
if u get close, it'll swing the prey
acoustic spade
dodging backwards hasnt worked
zenith zealot
whoever is in its arms
so get away and avoid getting hit by its swings after triggering it by getting close
viscid matrix
How does one avoid getting chewed on by a Chaos Spawn
If an ally walks in melee range, he does the hit a motherfucker with another motherfucker animation
zenith zealot
it'll then throw u away
ebon lichen
Stay away from it and use surge staff spam. - My solution for pretty much everything that's meaty or sturdy.
zenith zealot
How do you avoid getting grabbed by it
dodging works
just gotta get the right frame
acoustic spade
it has grabbed me dodge sliding behind a wall
zenith zealot
u gotta dodge the right animation is all
viscid matrix
How do you avoid getting grabbed by it
Ohh, he does a grab animation, you can learn to dodge it
ebon lichen
Terrain is irrelevant. You have to time the dodge.
zenith zealot
there's no i frame shxt with the dodge right?
viscid matrix
Empathic Evasion can allow you to avoid it if you manage to crit
zenith zealot
as in, dodging doesnt grant brief invinsibility right?
plucky flax
slaughterer also doesnt work
Slaughterer ascendant blaze wildfire used to work where you get stacks just from holding the sword.
Was good time.
viscid matrix
as in, dodging doesnt grant brief invinsibility right?
Slide and dodges have i frames, not sure exact where in the animation
Slide I think is just damage reduction, used to be a pin with the numbers but Iām not sure if itās still accurate or even exists in the game anymore
frank moat
I really hope they buff Surge once the bug is fixed
Half my peril to kill a dog without EP
still hearth
And so many zaps
I'd rather they remove the CC and just make it melt enemies
The CC thing isn't even that useful
Or make it a lightning bolt you throw
Idgaf
Just let it do damage
still hearth
The design is
That
They had no idea what to do
It does less damage than Trauma and Voidstrike as long as there's literally 2 enemies
And even on single targets it barely does more
????
bleak tulip
they made the thing everybody wanted, unlimited power, the CC thing and now it lost the one thing it used to be good at
still hearth
Like the only reason to run Surge rn is that you like funny lightning and sometimes stopping muties
Since both Trauma and Voidstrike can knock over enemies anyway
bleak tulip
Like the only reason to run Surge rn is that you like funny lightning and someti...
bug abuse
bleak tulip
I made a preset for it and still haven't used the bug staff in a real match lmao
still hearth
I've played it like twice
It's fun to zap things but it's not really challenging
So it gets old
bleak tulip
partially because the cosmetic I have for it bugs out with duel sword and I don't wanna constantly look inside of my arm on l1
still hearth
Just use max FOV
bleak tulip
I don't know if that would fix or make it worse
iirc I'm already at 100, I don't like more fisheye than that tbh
still hearth
Do you have the weapon FOV mod
bleak tulip
nah
still hearth
I use that
Very nice
Push the weapon out so it doesn't cover most of my screen for bigger weapons
potent echo
Slaughterer ascendant blaze wildfire used to work where you get stacks just from...
it still does if you hold sword afaik
unless?
bleak tulip
uncanny works with soulblaze iirc so it's not out of the question
onyx sentinel
the LMB buff for staves is actually cooked, I literally just saved an auric run twice just spamming LMB at gunners blasting our ass with no vets
still hearth
I think you don't get the stacks from the soulblaze but you can still stack the blessing
bleak tulip
it's pretty funny that one of the better ways to do dots is not having the flame thrower out but your melee
potent echo
bleak tulip
purg in shambles
potent echo
watch the video lol
strong pilot
not sure if gunker is truly competitive or i am being carried by columnus IAG and illisi
bleak tulip
watch the video lol
I did, I also tested this myself after hearing about it
pretty comical
bleak tulip
not sure if gunker is truly competitive or i am being carried by columnus IAG an...
probably a bit of both
it's not as bad as people like me make it sound when they shit on gunkers
small whale
gunker is decent just ammo hungry without a vet from my experience
bleak tulip
but it usually comes down to using the flavor of the month gun and build
small whale
scryers gaze is nice with it
bleak tulip
and let's be real, revolver is strong on every class
for example
so it'll be viable on gunker as well
strong pilot
and let's be real, revolver is strong on every class
i am shit at revolver, so not in my dream
bleak tulip
same I suppose for columnus
bleak tulip
I think it best synergizes with the full auto mod
strong pilot
laspistol synergizes the best with gunker
how so?
bleak tulip
small whale
so psyker has a talent that lets you be immune to ranged when landing crits
laspistol has a high crit rate paired with psykers high crit rate, you can destroy shooters and gunners while standing still
strong pilot
ah yes
i already felt it with the columnus i didnt notice any gunner damage half the run and decided to walk into a room full of gunners while hipfiring
i made it out without a scratch
small whale
i didnt know columnus had a high crit rate either 
the damage buffs that psyker get also make some enemies a one shot in just the body
strong pilot
i think with rolled crit and the amount of passive crit from scriers and talents, anything will crit reliably
small whale
basically turns laspistol into the k12 but faster firing
fire frenzy was disappointing for me on my columnus braced, close range kills thay count have to be like 8m away
any longer you dont get any stacks
strong pilot
fire frenzy was disappointing for me on my columnus braced, close range kills th...
what is the alternative you are running?
small whale
idk I dropped columnus braced it was a lil too ammo hungry
18 small ammo, 5 large ammo, 3 crates picked up from
strong pilot
idk about columnus brauto i am running the IAG version
small whale
IAG is probably better tbh
but laspistol is better on psyker with the crit synergy
i dont even have a good laspistol and it destroys everything
no dum dum or flak or manaic
strong pilot
cool
going to test it then
i already liked the gun upon returning on p13
kinda ammo hungry but feels good overall
small whale
yes the ammo reserve is pretty shitty, but its ok with a vet on the team
also I run scryers
im thinking of changing my axe to illisi though
strong pilot
illisi is exceeding my expectations from meat grinder testing, even with panic m1 spams i can 2shot bruisers and walk into hordes
supple skiff
back for the first time in a while, how do we feel abount assail?
strong pilot
assail is... very mid now
supple skiff
that was my impression
ripe crater
Assail is fun, but the recent nerf made it pretty ineffective at higher difficulty, unless you really exploit w/e you can to get the most out of it.
strong pilot
@small whale my heart is broken lol
small whale
<@197088037413322754> my heart is broken lol
you can still get dum dum 4 š
strong pilot
i'll still try for dumdum or infernus on that last roll
need to run a game for plasteel
strong pilot
i'll likely keep elite
supple skiff
smite seems like its just a means to take a surge staff without taking a surge staff
strong pilot
roll flak or maniac
supple skiff
not that thats a bad thing
strong pilot
if it doesnt brick
ripe crater
smite seems like its just a means to take a surge staff without taking a surge s...
Not really. Smite is big cc, surge is big damage
small whale
good plan
ripe crater
It's a good combi
I believe Surge staff makes use of several talents that also affect smite
ripe crater
But it isn't high damage
It really isn't.
still hearth
I feel like they forgot to give it damage.
It literally does less than the RMB
Because it ramps up slower
ripe crater
I feel like they forgot to give it damage.
That might explain things!
still hearth
supple skiff
and a hotfix just dropped
hope it doesnt invalidate the half hour I spent trying to figure shit out lmfao
ripe crater
I've been wanting to go for a smite build but I lack good surge, and my quest for Handcannon blessing has put everything else on hold for like 2 weeks (That's dozens of mission rewards and honestly no idea how much plassteel. ALL OF IT. And still not a single revolver with handcannon has been found or crafted. Not even a T1.)
Supposedly the hotfix doesn't change any balance
But as is normal, there will be ninja fixes that aren't in the changelogs.
small whale
void wasnt even that strong it just shored up assails weaknesses
still hearth
I've been wanting to go for a smite build but I lack good surge, and my quest fo...
You don't need a good surge its okay
Just run Empowered Psionics
ripe crater
Not sure how long you haven't played, but void is now the one thing that can take on anything. Not the best for monstrocities but other than that you can solo a lot of auric damnation just with voidstrike.
ripe crater
Just run Empowered Psionics
That bug was fixed, and the dmg increase still doesn't help it kill mutants and etc fast enough, afaik. Though I haven't tested much since patch 14.
whole sentinel
Yall like critstuff with trauma? Im doing brittleness /charge speed stuff instead. Am i wrong in doing so ?
still hearth
That bug was fixed, and the dmg increase still doesn't help it kill mutants and ...
Uh what
It literally doubles your Surge damage
In fact it more than doubles it
ripe crater
Oh emp psionics helps on Surge staff?
still hearth
Ye
light cargo
Not sure how long you haven't played, but void is now the one thing that can tak...
Wait really? I've seen people call Voidstrike a meme staff?
small whale
Not sure how long you haven't played, but void is now the one thing that can tak...
void struggles in bad situations when surrounded, other staves like purg and trauama are way better
ripe crater
Ah thank you, good to know. I'm still trying to figure out the talent synergies like that
small whale
im suprised they didnt remove in hotfix
light cargo
I'm a Trauma + Bubble enjoyer right now
still hearth
It's not game breaking tbh
It still doesn't outperform Trauma and Voidstrike in general
ripe crater
Wait really? I've seen people call Voidstrike a meme staff?
It's like "the beginner staff" due to how easy it is to use. But that doesn't make it any less effective.
still hearth
Just on single target
small whale
It's like "the beginner staff" due to how easy it is to use. But that doesn't ma...
thats surge >.>
point and click adventure
unborn flicker
I was a voidstrike enjoyer in the beginning
small whale
voidstrike u gotta be pretty precise
ripe crater
Can lock monstrocities with voidstrike too, with the right build and staff
unborn flicker
But surge is my baby now
still hearth
voidstrike u gotta be pretty precise
Ehhh
small whale
surge ur just like you die
small whale
yeah headshots are essential for voidstrike
still hearth
Compared to guns
unborn flicker
Itās a healthy hitbox
small whale
ok but im comparing surge vs void
small whale
surge is point at their toes for kill
still hearth
But I still think its not really a hard task
unborn flicker
Void has range and stagger
still hearth
To hover over heads with Voidstrike
It's harder sure
But not like "damn this is hard"
unborn flicker
Surge has stun and damage
still hearth
Stagger is basically stun so 
supple skiff
takes some getting use to but once you do it gets pretty easy to delete shit at range
unborn flicker
Well you canāt stun monstrosities
ripe crater
Can't stun monstrocities
small whale
range is really not that great of a plus in dt, everythings mostly close except some specials and gunners
unborn flicker
Can't stun monstrocities
Love u
ripe crater
supple skiff
what sort of shape is purge in these days
ripe crater
A line I believe
small whale
purge is good
unborn flicker
Yeah you typically want a blitz to cover the weakness of your staff
And vice versa
Id say that almost all staffs leave you with a chance to be overrun
Except purgatos
ripe crater
range is really not that great of a plus in dt, everythings mostly close except ...
Mostly true but I still play this to play a more shooter focused vermintide
unborn flicker
Man trauma pushes enemies behind you
supple skiff
trauma thrives knee deep in shit
spare sail
so true
small whale
Man trauma pushes enemies behind you
trick is to keep exploding it on yourself to be invincible
supple skiff
ran that with demois before I stopped playing
gray python
what are important stats on a lightning staff?
small whale
stonks
spare sail
if there arent maulers up your ass it dont feel as good
unborn flicker
trick is to keep exploding it on yourself to be invincible
You fuck your teammates
small whale
thats just a bonus
unborn flicker
The crusher or mauler that gets blasted behind your line gets up
And finds many open backs
To blow out
spare sail
i see nothing wrong there
unborn flicker
ripe crater
This is a single player co-op game after all
unborn flicker
This is why the imperium hates psykers
supple skiff
is there a way to change one's blitz without having to redo the tree for everthing below it?
ripe crater
No, just the Emperor does, afraid there will one day be one stronger than Him.
ripe crater
is there a way to change one's blitz without having to redo the tree for everthi...
There's a mod for that
unborn flicker
is there a way to change one's blitz without having to redo the tree for everthi...
Nope
supple skiff
lol figures
silk hawk
Did they fix surge bug?
supple skiff
no qol only war
unborn flicker
No, just the Emperor does, afraid there will one day be one stronger than Him.
I thought he wanted a psychic awakening
small whale
Did they fix surge bug?
its not in the patchnotes
ripe crater
Mods adress QoL so let em focus on the rest. I agree.
ripe crater
I thought he wanted a psychic awakening
I have about 0.125% understanding of the lore of 40k, so you can safely ignore any and all theories I throw out š
silk hawk
its not in the patchnotes
Every fatshark vet, knows that there is always stealth fixes in their patches...
unborn flicker
I have about 0.125% understanding of the lore of 40k, so you can safely ignore a...
Same
small whale
well i havent heard psykers screaming about it yet so its probably safe
ripe crater
I just know the Emperor is the most powerful Psyker in the galaxy. I've seen contradicting statements on whether or not he could defeat the Chaos gods. I also know I am one of the weakest Psykers in the galaxy, this game really lets you feel what a nobody maggot you are š
supple skiff
I have about 0.125% understanding of the lore of 40k, so you can safely ignore a...
how long have you been writing for GW?
silk hawk
That's sad, gonna test it in a few hours myself.
unborn flicker
I just know the Emperor is the most powerful Psyker in the galaxy. I've seen con...
We are definitely not alpha class
summer prairie
did a quick source comparison and don't see any unlisted fixes/changes
ripe crater
did a quick source comparison and don't see any unlisted fixes/changes
Nice
small whale
our psykers are just under the emperors level
unborn flicker
Bruh if we were, weād be able to brain burst hundreds of enemies at once without needing to channel
silk hawk
did a quick source comparison and don't see any unlisted fixes/changes
I am surprised that they ignored such a major issue...
unborn flicker
Are they even aware of it?
ripe crater
What is the surge bug exactly?
spare sail
its probably to due with that smite and surge staff share similar code if i had to guess
silk hawk
Well YouTube, forums and discord had that topic multiple times
spare sail
so its spagetti code
unborn flicker
The perk at the bottom that makes your next blitz empowered
silk hawk
So i assumed that they are aware
unborn flicker
It can be used with surge staff
small whale
the code looks like 125%+ lightning type damage for psyker
ripe crater
Is that introduced with patch 14?
unborn flicker
And doesnāt consume the charge
ripe crater
The bug itself?
silk hawk
Is that introduced with patch 14?
Yep
unborn flicker
Yes it originally allowed for infinite smite
They changed it to a dmg buff
Now it buffs surge staff
And makes it shred
silk hawk
So all surge enjoys can get 125%+ dmg for free )
unborn flicker
Which is a lot
ripe crater
Yes it originally allowed for infinite smite
yea enjoyed this for a while heh
strong pilot
@small whale saved, somewhat
unborn flicker
yea enjoyed this for a while heh
Ngl I miss it
ripe crater
<@197088037413322754> saved, somewhat
gunpsyker more effective than a specialized vet or something?
unborn flicker
Scriers gaze
strong pilot
i dont think a gun psyker can be more effective than a vet that decides to bring plasma
ripe crater
I know hvy laspistol can give the highest dps for gunpsyker. I just wonder if it's the right class for the playstyle
unborn flicker
Ehhhh
bleak tulip
RSI pistol
strong pilot
i've enjoyed the columnus so far, trying laspis on @small whale 's recommendation
potent echo
highest dps against anything no carapace
supple skiff
oh wow they really pumped up surge
unborn flicker
Its extra dps
supple skiff
this is nuts
unborn flicker
Over support
severe folio
the surge is bugged right now isnt it ?
small whale
I know hvy laspistol can give the highest dps for gunpsyker. I just wonder if it...
I was keeping up with a surge psyker so ya the dps is pretty insane on laspistol
spare sail
the surge is bugged right now isnt it ?
yes
prime elk
How so?
spare sail
+125% dmg
willow hazel
I was keeping up with a surge psyker so ya the dps is pretty insane on laspistol
With or without bug?
junior flume
Any advice on what to do for second modification?
small whale
With or without bug?
with surge smite and ep
strong pilot
surge + empowered psionics is a bug so, don't expect it to be this way forver
spare sail
Any advice on what to do for second modification?
id personally change slaughterer
bleak tulip
to slaughterer IV
junior flume
id personally change slaughterer
lol, I was thinking that. I'm new to the class, so I don't know which blessings are good
prime elk
empowered psionics buffs surge by 125%
Oh lol I see
bleak tulip
specifically +125%
strong pilot
specifically +125%
yeah this, realised what i typed
potent echo
deflector is fine too, although you cant block bullets while reviving someone anymore
unborn flicker
Which is cringe
bleak tulip
not that you really need to ideally
unborn flicker
Aināt that the truth
supple skiff
for a second there I though killing a crusher in 1.5 seconds in damnation with aoe damage was intended lmfao
bleak tulip
you can tank quite a bit with toughness, and its only fair that psyker too has to clear at least ranged a bit before reviving when we can already pick up in melee basically for free
spare sail
deflector is fine too, although you cant block bullets while reviving someone an...
deflector is really clutch if you accidentally wake a dh and have kinetic deflection on
strong pilot
run 30% ally revive speed, and it doesnt matter
potent echo
duellingsword has better block efficiency than force sword too
so that with kinetic works really well
unborn flicker
But it wonāt block bullets
potent echo
yea it cant
unborn flicker
Reapers be gatting
strong pilot
the most efficient block against dakka is still a random crate
unborn flicker
No one upvoted it on Reddit š©
spare sail
they are affraid of the power
bleak tulip
reddit are malice players they dont understand
spare sail
on god
unborn flicker
That or make a force sword swing create a little blade that slices longer range
Like a blade of wind
potent echo
moonlight greatsword lets go
unborn flicker
Thatād be sick
still hearth
The bug itself?
The bug probably existed before
People just didn't realize it since it was 30% damage then
supple skiff
the telekine shields, can they soak a decent amount of damage ?
bleak tulip
aiui they have a minimum timer where they can literally not be destroyed, at least the bubble?
and then they soak x hits somehow
the directional ones also soak mutie charges and hounds like twice
still hearth
Yeah
That's pretty much it
They seem to be able to take infinite nets and flames though
bleak tulip
and bonbon vomit
sturdy dagger
Alright i need 2 find a build ik nothing about, i just witnessed a psyker play the game like a zealot and i need it
dude had a revolver, one of the force swords i think iblis or whatever its called sciars gaze and assail
but literally all he did was run through rooms with the sword cleaving hordes and 2 shotting maulers im so confused
still hearth
So it might be Handcannon on Revolver
With Deimos
Since Handcannon is global so Deimos crits would have 80% rending
potent echo
and some movetech on the deimos probably
plucky flax
Did the hotfix patch my surge abuse?
sturdy dagger
With Deimos
im certain it wasnt deimos
potent echo
no
sturdy dagger
as thats the only one ive used
still hearth
I mean Illisi won't 2-shot maulers, at least not without special I'm pretty sure.
So depends on if they spammed the special
potent echo
duellingsword?
sturdy dagger
unless he had a skin? but it literally just looked like a normal iblis or whatever the basic looking force sword is
potent echo
or the forbidden obscurus
is probably the red camo
makes anything looks like an illisi
heady garnet
Are we supposed to be stacking health or toughness?
brave fiber
Either or
potent echo
health gives you more second chances so probably health
brave fiber
Whichever you prefer
potent echo
but im stubborn so im taking toughness
mental rock
Depends on class and preference
potent echo
if you dont take health you go down in 2 burster/sniper hits
brave fiber
2 health 1 toughness / 1 health 1 toughness 1 stamina is what I usually run
heady garnet
We seem to have a lot of toughness talents
potent echo
so its up to you if you avoid getting hit by those or get hit by those alot
sturdy dagger
playing on damnation?
twas only tier 4
potent echo
tier 4 could be anything tbh
heady garnet
I'm good at dodging snipers, pushing bursters, I'm bad when I get overwhelmed by trash
brave fiber
Having a little more toughness helps with tanking some of the tougher hits in the game
mental rock
I mean if you are ogryn it will take more than 2 Bursters to down you
potent echo
Having a little more toughness helps with tanking some of the tougher hits in th...
like?
plucky flax
What difficulty is this?
mental rock
Well 130 toughness is just enough to tank a full volley from normal shooters
potent echo
160~170 for shotgunner
mental rock
On psyker I take 2 hp curios and a 3 Stam curio with toughness as a secondary on all of them to get that extra tankiness against normal shooters
heady garnet
Every single one of my curios currently has gunner resistance because i swear there's way more of them rn
potent echo
they stack multiplicatively so it isnt that valuable to stack resists
heady garnet
oh damn
potent echo
you get ~49% than 60%
still similar i guess
brain burst has infinite range so try to burst the elites furthest away
also game is too easy so everyone is stealing each other's jobs
austere burrow
Just play damnation
potent echo
team is most efficient when everyone is covering a different area
if there are 3 anti elite loadouts staring at a doorway probably just be a rear guard and kill some specials sneaking in
usually things go bad when 4 people tunnel vision forward then a burster/mutant comes from behind and ends everything
celest junco
just got warp battery today finally
sturdy dagger
tier 4 could be anything tbh <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
it was still insane 2 watch though again ive only used deimos are one of the other 2 force swords for horde clear maybe?
potent echo
its still probably a deimos
plucky flax
Find low intensity damnation. It's really chill.
sturdy dagger
ehhhh
potent echo
illisi isnt that cracked to be two shotting maulers in heresy
sturdy dagger
Find low intensity damnation. It's really chill.
last 3 times ive tried that ive gotten legitimate new players leveling there first character
losing 1v1s to groaners
plucky flax
sturdy dagger
idk why there even allowed in tier 5 so early
potent echo
isnt that great, that means you get to kill everything
plucky flax
keen slate
What blessings do you run on Deimos?
crisp yacht
What blessings do you run on Deimos?
Uncanny and unstable are what I have on mine and it does pretty good. I could see riposte being good as well.
hushed sequoia
What's the best psyker melee for dealing with beefier enemies?
copper torrent
Mk iv duelling sword with uncanny. Heavy them to death
dapper folio
dueling sword chews through pretty much everything
hushed sequoia
wtf this thing shreds
dapper folio
yeah it's really fun lol
hushed sequoia
what's the point of the special though
dapper folio
stagger
tame venture
What's the best psyker melee for dealing with beefier enemies?
Chainsword. Do special heavies
hushed sequoia
chainsword is fun but im looking for something different with psyker
dueling sword appears to be it
tame venture
Force swords are your other option
You can do the same thing as chainsword, but it's still alright for mobbing
That said, I have no clue how the swords differ
hexed dragon
Love the Mk IV. Running with this at the moment
ripe yacht
What blessings do you run on Deimos?
That's a pretty weapon. What's the skin?
gentle hinge
What blessings do you run on Deimos?
i run Executor and Deflector, as for perks i go +25% damage to Flak Armor and +25% damage to Maniacs
keen slate
bleak tulip
tawny brook
Still waiting to get my eyebrows back with the Chem Safe Rebreather.
prime elk
dueling sword chews through pretty much everything
Itās not really for mobs though right?
Havenāt used it much
dapper folio
I use it to clear hordes too
heady garnet
Did my first auric today and they feel easier than modified 4s and 5s
lapis bay
Always depends on the team tbh
Most aurics are people who have mastered their class or are aware enough of their weaknesses to not be shitters
hexed dragon
Itās not really for mobs though right?
The Mk. IV has enough cleave on the LA to chew up hordes. I think only the Mk. V has issues with horde clear.
heady garnet
is 25% max health curio real or is the max 20%?
prime elk
The Mk. IV has enough cleave on the LA to chew up hordes. I think only the Mk. V...
OK thanks, good to know
plucky flax
Max is 21% currently.
lapis bay
21% max
plucky flax
They should make +2 wounds curio for martyrdom zealots.
verbal bear
They should make +2 wounds curio for martyrdom zealots. <:whatthefuck_heresy:104...
Yes
hazy cedar
Yes. Red Rarity wound curious when
quasi junco
Anyone notice smite really Fs poxbursters? They just fall down and die almost instantly after getting zapped.
tame venture
it does have high stun
quasi junco
This is on damnation
I hear a burster I put away my voidstrike staff and ready smite š¤£
tame venture
"gee billy, how come your mom lets you have two staves?"
echo turtle
What blessings do you run on Deimos?
there are two ways to go with the deimos, Uncanny + a power blessing like slaught or unstable for a damage weapon with Flaniak, or you can run it as a survival tool using deflector and grabbing a stam perk
bleak tulip
double bonk
keen jay
I am so happy rn
long wharf
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echo turtle
congrats
bleak tulip
the most topical subtitle
keen jay
Me?
We found it annoying to try to end the bot in regular so we ended up going into maelstrom to kill off the bot easier and have a higher chance of monstrosities š
chrome linden
alrighty bois. starting y psycher. what staff should i be looking for
chrome linden
dont give me that horsecrap, there are always differences
keen jay
alrighty bois. starting y psycher. what staff should i be looking for
In reality you want most of them but I really love the Surge staff
tame venture
dont give me that horsecrap, there are always differences
Well you didn't tell us shit about what you're doing with them you prick
There's 4 different staves that all do wildly different things in different ways, and you'll end up wanting each of them.
And guns do nothing for psyker
strong gulch
alrighty bois. starting y psycher. what staff should i be looking for
Everyone has their opinions. Some are doing a lot of damage yada yada yada.
Eat have their own feel to them. Play around to see what you like.
Know that some staves, like trauma, feel really bad unless they have high rolls. BUT there are are still people who don't like it.
sturdy dagger
Eat
strong gulch
Purg and surge don't need precise aiming. (unless you use the surge LMB)
Void and trauma, more so void, require more aiming.
tame venture
Also void and trauma LMB
strong gulch
yup
tame venture
Which can belt out damage alright
prime elk
Whatās the staff with the ground explosion rmb?
hexed dragon
Trauma
prime elk
OK cool thanks
echo turtle
Are we supposed to be stacking health or toughness?
I stack health, mainly. Taking health and toughness as the perks.
No matter what you do your toughness pool is going to be super low, and while you can Regen it fast I find I take most of my damage when my toughness gets dropped from fire or from a burster. In which case the extra health is a lot more useful.
Stam is like wounds, when you learn the game better you won't need it
kind jay
curios are 100% preference
echo turtle
Yes and no, there are objectively bad choices.
Noticing what is killing you the most and adjusting curios to it is always subjective
I personally run health/tough on all of them, 2 CDR and 1 gunner resist
Health and toughness for the perks is always good, no matter the player a higher effective HP pool is ideal
long wharf
toughness for psyker is a waste
you don't have a large enough base toughness value to be worth boosting by small percentages
having +3 stamina will make you peril block better
I run 2 health and 1 +3 stam curio on my psyker
kind jay
I'd rather have tough to prevent chip damage
long wharf
chip damage isn't a threat to a party wipe
echo turtle
Stop getting hit by groaners and chip damage isn't a worry
brave fiber
with how much toughness regen psyker has, itās def worth to have more total toughness to take advantage of it
echo turtle
Health gives you a larger pool to resist corruption from
long wharf
with how much toughness regen psyker has, itās def worth to have more total toug...
not really
you can more about being at max toughness than having a certain number for toughness
clear heath
stamina curios is pretty overkill imo
brave fiber
stamina curios is pretty overkill imo
^
echo turtle
with how much toughness regen psyker has, itās def worth to have more total toug...
Eh, you can stack all the toughness and resist and you still look pretty much the entire pool from one or two hits
long wharf
are we not allowed to react to messages now?
kind jay
I'm not getting hit by any melee. just sneaky ranged units i don't always see
echo turtle
You don't take chip damage from range
clear heath
You can't react to people who have blocked you
long wharf
oh interesting.
tame venture
I use 1health 1toughness 1stamina, but I really do want to try to cram in a wounds curio
clear heath
I do 1 hp 2 toughness
kind jay
this is why i said curios are 100% pref. see how everyone has a completely different opinion
brave fiber
I run 2 hp 1 toughness, it makes me super survivable from both chip dmg and anything else
long wharf
the extra 40 toughness is meaningless in Heresy+
too many ways for your toughness to just disappear, on top of that
brave fiber
Itās primarily from poke
echo turtle
I'm not getting hit by any melee. just sneaky ranged units i don't always see
Ranged attacks deal 4x damage to toughness depending on the attack, odds are the curios won't be the difference between toughness breaking and not
noble mason
I run 3 toughness curios so i can get 2 shot by pox bursters and let the team carry me
brave fiber
I run 3 toughness curios so i can get 2 shot by pox bursters and let the team ca...
based
echo turtle
I run 3 toughness curios so i can get 2 shot by pox bursters and let the team ca...
Exaaaaaaactly
long wharf
also, having more stamina means you can block more damage before staggering
clear heath
if you're taking peril block, you're already able to block way more than you should ever waste time blocking
the only reason i take peril block at all is a safe way to build peril
long wharf
I take peril block because it's the only way to pick up True Aim
echo turtle
the only reason i take peril block at all is a safe way to build peril
Yeah, it works good in a creeping flames build
Which imo is the best build
clear heath
regardless, base stamina + peril block should be enough for any reasonable blocking needs
taking stamina is such overkill
echo turtle
regardless, base stamina + peril block should be enough for any reasonable block...
I would argue it's worth grabbing stam as a weapon perk in that situation
But never in a curio
clear heath
i would argue that's actually worse
echo turtle
i would argue that's actually worse
I run creeping flames with surge, the sword doesn't need to do damage
clear heath
you're giving up 25% damage against an armor type
kind jay
Ranged attacks deal 4x damage to toughness depending on the attack, odds are the...
ranged attacks hurt less with distance sans sniper. a rager stun locking you in melee is going to eat that extra health regardless
echo turtle
So?
summer prairie
if you use your melee <10% of the time, stamina seems fine
echo turtle
ranged attacks hurt less with distance sans sniper. a rager stun locking you in ...
In combat extra health is significantly better
brave fiber
Thereās so few weapons where you can get away with having stamina perks over anything else
long wharf
there are no weapons where a stamina perk is a good option
clear heath
I guess if you literally only pull it out for mutants, sure
echo turtle
And if you are dying to ragers with or without 63% more health that's a skill issue
kind jay
not in my experience
long wharf
if you only pull a weapon out for mutants, you still want crit and +mutant
summer prairie
may not even need the dmg perk for any meaningful breakpoint when you only use it for a few enemy types
echo turtle
I guess if you literally only pull it out for mutants, sure
Realistically it's out only for hordes or when I need to make space
Then it's back to cycling lightning and shriek
clear heath
I still wouldn't bother with taking stamina anyways
echo turtle
Deflector + stam is worth losing some flak damage imo,
But it doesn't matter all that much
The DPS from surge and creeping flames is astonishing, no need to invest in pumping up the diemos power
clear heath
building peril faster isn't even a downside in every situation
echo turtle
Just use it to reposition
brave fiber
I just donāt think deflector is all that good to begin with tbh
long wharf
I just donāt think deflector is all that good to begin with tbh
it's situational
echo turtle
building peril faster isn't even a downside in every situation
It's really just for OH SHIT moments, when there's like a rager pack, crushers, flamers and a horde on your ass
brave fiber
Because why block gunfire when you have bubble, or if you can just, kill them or take cover?
willow hazel
Deflector + stam is worth losing some flak damage imo,
But it doesn't matter a...
If you are using peril block for creeping flames then +stamina is actively bad
echo turtle
I just donāt think deflector is all that good to begin with tbh
Deflector keeps you alive in situations where you otherwise die.
I only use it in a surge/creeping flames build though
long wharf
bubble wasn't always an option
echo turtle
If you are using peril block for creeping flames then +stamina is actively bad
No, you don't peril block to build perils just spam the weapon actuvation
brave fiber
But it is now
willow hazel
No, you don't peril block to build perils just spam the weapon actuvation
That's very slow and does 0 damage
echo turtle
Blocking to build perils is inneficient
It's faster than blocking which also deals 0 damage
clear heath
It's really just for OH SHIT moments, when there's like a rager pack, crushers, ...
i find it funny that 2 of those things you mentioned have unblockables
but yeah for rager packs sure
echo turtle
If you are blocking and not attacking you should be making space and repositioning
Not sitting around to get a venting shriek off
willow hazel
Spamming special to create peril does just as little as holding block
echo turtle
Peril ramp with the staff is sufficient, if you can't use the staff you need to reposition or clear
I didn't say block special
I said spam weapon activation
plucky flax
echo turtle
If you want your perils up fast you can activate the weapon a few times and vent
willow hazel
Agreed a staff is the best way to create peril. But spamming special on a force sword is bad