#psyker-class

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harsh urchin
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with the state of psyker ulti

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and the state of warp charges

slate sun
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Voidstrike is still kind of ok to play but I was on the verge of just quitting the class altogether ...

harsh urchin
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and the state of DD

severe folio
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what do you guys think about this gun

slate sun
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it's a gun

severe folio
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or is this not a good IG to have

harsh urchin
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stopping power is a bit low

severe folio
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thats true

harsh urchin
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you really want higher rolls on dmg + stopping power

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since that affects your base dmg

severe folio
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make sense

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is this even a good IG model though

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you know, this mk

harsh urchin
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all the iags are good now

severe folio
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oh ok

harsh urchin
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it just comes down to preference

severe folio
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i have only been fiddling with the agripinaa mk1

harsh urchin
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they have different recoil patterns, kick, etc

severe folio
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yeah

harsh urchin
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some do less dmg in exchange for better weapon handling

severe folio
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i see

harsh urchin
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some do more dmg in exchange for being worse at long range etc

severe folio
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i think thats what i use

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which one is the model with more handling

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columnus ?

compact bluff
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graia

severe folio
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oh

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lowest damage too right ?

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i saw a vet build with raking fire columus

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i assumethe columus is the middle option

harsh urchin
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@spice veldt you know what'd be cool was if psyker got an additional item slot

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like a focus

spice veldt
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as far as I can tell, agri and graia are basically different flavors of mostly the same thing breakpoints aside, and the columnus has the highest DPS up close at the cost of having less total damage per mag and more severe damage falloff

harsh urchin
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that had 2 perks and 2 blessings

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that were for the blitz

severe folio
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oh i see

harsh urchin
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so you could further tune assail, bb or smite

spice veldt
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that would be one way to make it interact with the crafting system

severe folio
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wait agripina is the weapon handling focused gun ?

spice veldt
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though as it stands, you basically just pick a certain combination of perks/blessings that happen to suit 90% of the use cases of the blitz

compact bluff
spice veldt
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i suppose that'd be a way to do that, since the crafting system is already here and I doubt that any major revamps are going to happen

compact bluff
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they're similar in recoil though really, just that the graia has less recoil while moving

harsh urchin
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yar

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i think next big update

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is probably going to be addition of new maps + new weapons

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i doubt classes or crafting gonna be touched in the near term

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at least

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in any big way

terse saffron
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any lasguns are as good as iags on psyker?

harsh urchin
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ppl seem to like the laspistol

plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
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bro go shower

plucky flax
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I am going to shower.

vestal fulcrum
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No matter what you do, you can’t deny that they will be right in their offence. Probably. Provided that you shower in the first place (you probably should once in a while).

obtuse walrus
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You should shower daily

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No excuses

still hearth
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Ogryn is a normal class

vestal fulcrum
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Ogryn is a normal class, everyone else is built different megachingryn

still hearth
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Ye

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When the Vet shouts and suddenly you get 300 extra toughness

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With basically 0 investment

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And if you invest a bit you get 400 extra toughness instead

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Very normal class

severe folio
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wow

still hearth
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Run confident strike on a melee and face-tank bosses

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Another normal thing

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Just all these normal things

somber dew
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Do penances that require brain burst kills only count if you manually target them with the ability itself, or can they progress from the % chance of the random ones going off?

plucky flax
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Psyker doing 1000k damage in 30 mins is also very normal.

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
still hearth
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Agent also plays with feral beasts in quick-play

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I've seen their stats

vestal fulcrum
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loregryn I’ve yet to have a blaze trauma game with over 1M damage

plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
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Or any of the ones you listed, for the record

still hearth
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The 40 minute doing 200k damage players

plucky flax
# vestal fulcrum <:loregryn:1036580674741731379> I’ve yet to have a blaze trauma game with over 1...

Update to my blaze trauma build with taking perfect timing. I went crazy this game and did the big damage.
Patch 1.2.2
Magistrati Oubliette TM8-707 · Assassination · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet (Melee Scab Enemies Only)
Loadout: MK IV Duelling Sword / Blazing Spirits Trauma

▶ Play video
vestal fulcrum
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Things USUALLY don’t go so bad I need to crank out 1M damage for the rest of the team

still hearth
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We need a mod to tell us how much damage Wildfire does already

plucky flax
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My games have some special players 85% of the time.

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I started using the new scoreboard so I can see dot damage.

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I played bleed knife and the bleed is like 40k damage. FeelsStrongMan

still hearth
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Oh yeah your video reminded me that you should quell between shots on Trauma right

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Or rather quell cancel

plucky flax
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You can so if you want or not it doesn't really matter. It's maybe a 0.5s efficiency.

thin finch
vestal fulcrum
still hearth
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Ye

thin finch
vestal fulcrum
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For efficiency’s sake… I could see myself doing that, but it’s hardly making a difference

plucky flax
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Sometimes I forget to do it. I don't let it eat my mind.

plucky flax
still hearth
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I love the

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Psyker dolphin dives

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With the Trauma

thin finch
still hearth
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The Smite Psyker in the wild

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Just holding things down for the Trauma user

plucky flax
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He got voidstrike too idk why he really preferred to use smite.

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What a nice guy.

still hearth
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He saw you playing and thought

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"I might as well just hold them down"

plucky flax
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Tbh imo voidstrike is not as good as trauma in melee maelstrom. Too many beefcakes void won't cleave enough.

still hearth
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Yeah

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Give it more cleave

plucky flax
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Make it plasma.

still hearth
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And make both of them cleave through carapace

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So that you can kill several Crushers per shot

thin finch
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increase AOe explosion and make it smells blueberry too

heady garnet
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I've been taking disrupt destiny on revolver psyker alongside scriers gaze but it feels...underwhelming? Needing to use revolver shots to secure stacks when ammo is already so scarce. I'm thinking about grabbing EP just so my smite/assail deals with hordes better. Any thoughts?

still hearth
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Run assail with DD

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You use it to save revolver ammo and revolver swap is fast

plucky flax
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Can try laspistol gazer dd meme too.

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Bigger ammo per mag but it's still quite ammo intensive though.

heady garnet
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I dont have a decent laspistol yet

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Maybe its because this is my first time using a gun in any game but I feel so bad picking up ammo when my vet bf could probably be using it better

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Or when im playing with all pugs no one lets me have ammo 😦

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@plucky flax could you elaborate on the laspitol gazer dd meme?

heady garnet
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I dont know much but doesn't the laspitol and revolver both specialize in single target damage?

unique mist
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assail is best gunker blitz

plucky flax
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It makes laspistol very strong when gaze and dd are activated.

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You can use assail with that build to save some ammo.

heady garnet
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What blessings are reccomended?

plucky flax
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Dumdum and infernus

heady garnet
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Do you take general soul blaze talents with infernus?

plucky flax
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No infernos burn and soulblaze burn are different things.

heady garnet
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Oh I guess you can't get to wildfire with assail

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Oh whew that's good

plucky flax
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Infernus is used to stack up dumdum quicker anyway it won't do that much damage apart from unyielding.

unique mist
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what does dumdum do again

heady garnet
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Close range damage

plucky flax
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But it the range is weird right now you can stack it at any range.

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Dumdum on infantry autogun behaves the same.

heady garnet
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Yeah I noticed with uh, terrifying barrage it's pretty much the range of a small room

plucky flax
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Too much spaghetti codes.

heady garnet
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I was so excited to try the new smite nomanus bug after they fixed the smite EP bug but it was so underwhelming

plucky flax
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Ep smite kills trash horde a lot faster now I find.

unique mist
plucky flax
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Aye I use it to build peril and hold horde momentarily.

unique mist
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yeah

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i been finding smite frustrating to use tho once it reaches its target limit

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you're holding a horde and then a couple guys walk up to you, smack you once then you lose smite and a whole horde is on your ass

plucky flax
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Oh yeah then you get tapped.

unique mist
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and then blessing of nurgle is smite's bane

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they won't get held by smite so will walk up to your ass straight through a horde and fuck you

heady garnet
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I only run up to difficulty 4 because I'm still shakey with melee fundamentals (got my ass carried in a 5 once) but I def feel the damage buff

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Oh shit is that what was happening to me??

unique mist
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thats fine, its how i did it

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blessing of nurgle is Maelstrom exclusive modifier

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so unless you been playing maelstrom

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probably not

heady garnet
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Yeah I occasionally run the difficulty 3 or 4 maelstroms

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On normal

plucky flax
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Only shouts seem to stagger the green Bois.

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Shouts op

heady garnet
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Never stepped foot in auric, I don't wanna ruin 3 other people days lol

unique mist
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i didnt even see them get staggered by them but maybe not paying attention

plucky flax
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I mean vet and ogryn shouts.

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The shriek doesn't stagger.

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That's a scream.

near wyvern
# unique mist i been finding smite frustrating to use tho once it reaches its target limit

It doesn't really seem to have a target limit. What I have been seeing in my tests is that it can only spread within a certain angle from the enemies and given enemy can "spread" it to only fixed amount

So if you tase a horde and someone joins in on the side, it might be that the target cap for those in front is full or the angle is bad and they won't get tased

heady garnet
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I've been playing since August and I genuinely think the fact that my friends are better players than me has made me pick up a bunch of bad habits/not learn things

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I'll occasionally queue up for a 4 by myself and I find it's rare to finish the mission

unique mist
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like i see what you're saying

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it's not that you're hitting the maximum of like "25 enemies", just that enemies you do hit can only spread it so many times to enemies behind them

heady garnet
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Area cap?

unique mist
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but at the same time, if an enemy walks right in front of you and your smite, which is locked on to a few enemies, doesn't leap to them too, i'd call that a target cap

plucky flax
near wyvern
heady garnet
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I'm pretty confident in my abilities to dodge things/stay out of trouble but I dont exactly have the same "clutch the mission" abilities

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If im the only person up were doomed lol

unique mist
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yeah i went from 3 to 4 then gelled in 4 till i was comfortable and made the leap to 5 where teammate quality improved drastically, made a leap of faith in auric, scraped by so i dropped back down to 5 for like another week and a bit

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now i'm semi frequently running auric maelstroms

plucky flax
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Yeah but playing solo will put you in that situations more often. That's when you get the practice in.

unique mist
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still can't clutch

plucky flax
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I'm so used to meme clutch I can pull off some crazy shits on all classes.

heady garnet
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It's quite demoralizing to load into a high intensity 4 and within the first 2 minutes 2 people are down from maulers

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I know it sounds egotistical 😦

unique mist
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had a really fun auric with scabs only melee only :)

plucky flax
unique mist
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flak ragers and ogryns up my ass

vestal fulcrum
near wyvern
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Careful, scab ragers are edgy and ogryn size might be more than you can handle

unique mist
near wyvern
plucky flax
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It's my secret power. I haxx

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I think the horde was beelining for someone else.

unique mist
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and how the fuck did that beast of nurgle not swallow you

heady garnet
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I play a little too far back I think

plucky flax
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After it got hit a few times in turned around lol

unique mist
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you just phased through it

heady garnet
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Let the poor vets and zealots deal with the rush

plucky flax
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Game gives me special privilege after 100 clutches.

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But anyway don't let the pressure get to you. Stay calm. Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.

plucky flax
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Isn't it bear grills?

heady garnet
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@plucky flax you're so inspirational;_;

plucky flax
heady garnet
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I haven't heard that name in so long Holy shit

plucky flax
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He faked his survival stuff.

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He lied to me!!

unique mist
plucky flax
unique mist
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it what

plucky flax
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Yeah the bonbon can eat trash horde to heal itself.

winter siren
kind jay
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almost perfect

heady garnet
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I'm off to class send me your psyker vibes please 😭

winter siren
modest trellis
kind jay
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quell peril before taking tests

plucky flax
heady garnet
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@plucky flax thank you dad

devout fox
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I'm trying to complete the "Blessed by Fate" penance. I have 4/50, but am unsure why I don't have more. As far as I understand it, I need to use Psykinetic's Wrath 50 times while at 100% peril, but I thought I'd done that. Do I have to wait until my hands come up? Can I use Venting Shriek to complete the penance?

winter siren
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hmmm. swap out rampage for uncanny or shred?

heady garnet
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@devout fox yep. Venting shriek is the new psykinetics wrath

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Not at 100% peril, you need to be mid exploding animation

devout fox
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Oh!

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I see!

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Thank you very much!

winter siren
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you have a couple seconds to use vent

plucky flax
heady garnet
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It's pretty easy to farm out/cheese in a lower difficulty without griefing simply by running warp charges reducing your ult cd

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Stack charges>start explode animation>ult>rinse and repeat

plucky flax
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Rampage uncanny is also very strong.

winter siren
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what about this one?

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block to crit or flak?

kind jay
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maniac?

wraith crag
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Please send diamintine 🆒

plucky flax
winter siren
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this is for my assail, seers, venting, surge build

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so assail takes care of trash mobs, surge cuts cara

plucky flax
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The cleave buff makes it very easy to proc rampage.

winter siren
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just need a nice nimble headstabber

plucky flax
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I used to run uncanny shred in patch 13 but switched to uncanny rampage for this patch.

winter siren
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heavy into special is insta double headshot on big boys with stagger on special which is nice

plucky flax
dapper folio
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that makes me want to swap my rampage out for uncanny strike

spare light
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@plucky flax I wanted to ask you, why are you using Psychic Vampire instead of In Fire Reborn with your blazing trauma?

winter siren
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i have been going h1 insta special back to h1. pretty good. i dont find rampage that useful on my other one which is why im looking for another

plucky flax
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Oh you always run uncanny. Then 2nd blessing is up to preference.

dapper folio
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yeah my shred 4 is locked in so now I'm just looking for uncanny strike 4 to rebless it

winter siren
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riposte is so easy to keep up its like free crit

plucky flax
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Uncanny 3 and 4 does the same damage. Rending cap is at 100%.

dapper folio
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huh

plucky flax
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At 5 stacks you don't benefit from uncanny 4.

dapper folio
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I'll be on the lookout then

plucky flax
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My sword has uncanny 3.

plucky flax
plucky flax
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It also gives you a chance to get warp charge with melee weapon.

dapper folio
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ds gaze and a gun has just been so much fun to play

keen slate
dapper folio
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nice uh

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spear?

keen slate
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Spear? This is force staff, just the usual Krieg psyker weapon

idle aurora
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Blessings for blaze trauma are the same? Nexus + spirit?

dapper folio
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yeah, the pointy bit at the end applies force really effectively

winter siren
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psykers coke spoon

heady garnet
devout fox
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Thank you so much!

heady garnet
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Of course! Reading that penance was actually how I learned I could vent to prevent myself from exploding lol. Fresh 30 me just accepted death every time before I realized

paper tusk
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Should i rather armored enemies with my slab, or melle with special mk 5 ? what procs more bleed ?

devout fox
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Oh, wow. I think I read in maybe the skill tree that the updated shriek removes more stuff compared to normal, so I assumed basic removed an amount too

thin finch
heady garnet
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A baby psyker who doesn't have the keystone will have the normal shriek

devout fox
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I've used it to survive in the past, I believe

thin finch
opal pebble
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So has anyone tried the staff bonk how good is it now?

kind jay
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it's still in the "just swap to melee" category

terse saffron
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can this one be saved?

shell marsh
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Thoughts?

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I swear I saw a guide before but forgot the best levels per weapon rank

spice oar
keen slate
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So close

spice oar
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Probs leave the blessings and change the perks to weak spot dmg and maniac dmg

halcyon creek
# shell marsh Thoughts?

Low overall modifier… would have liked to see more balanced across each bar, or at least more points in Damage. Could work if you’re still leveling up and it’s better than the other swords that you have, but you can find much better at Lv30

shell marsh
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Well its better than my current so ill invest just a lil in it

half turtle
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if i want a melee weapon good for nothing but boss dps what should i take

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lacerate knife?

kind jay
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chainsword bloodletter

half turtle
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ok i need to be able to do boss dps while under a mid amount of pressure

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assume i have no teammates

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cuz bloodletter is off the rev right

kind jay
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knife, duel mk4, deimos

queen fog
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Deimos like all the force swords got some decent push power

kind jay
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bleed knife works like you said too

half turtle
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with deimos would i be using the special attack?

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or just spamming uncharged stabs

kind jay
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nah you still want to use l1 h2

half turtle
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hmm ok

kind jay
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it's less good in your scenario tho

half turtle
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i tried a ds4 with uncanny strike earlier and it took me like 5 minutes to kill the boss (plague ogryn)

kind jay
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without a team and during a horde that's pretty much expected

half turtle
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makes sense

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will bleed knife be faster

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rn im using melee literally only for boss and mutants (since i'm running trauma + brain burst which handles everything else)

kind jay
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not necessarily faster but it would let you do consistent damage while also being able to dance away from danger

half turtle
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ah

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yeah makes sense

lyric burrow
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Think bleed chainsword is still better for monstrosity dps

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Raw

half turtle
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bleed as in "bleed on special attack"

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or does chainsword have flesh tearer or something

kind jay
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chainswords big damage is gonna be the shredder

half turtle
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ahh

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yeah makes sense

kind jay
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so yeah you'll be locked in.

half turtle
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afaict i won't be able to afford to use that since this is a silly true solo build

kind jay
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yeah it won't work in that case

half turtle
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hmm ok ill try bleed knife and deimos, i have both

lyric burrow
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Yeah its just raw dps i cant reccomend spamming it into a monstrosity unless its solo lol

half turtle
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well i have a normal knife i can put bleed on lol

lyric burrow
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Give deimos bleed

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It definitely needs it

spare light
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Does it?

lyric burrow
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I was being sarcastic lol

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It does not need it

half turtle
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hmm what's the bleed stack cap rn btw, does anyone know?

spare light
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Oh dogekek

kind jay
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16

spare light
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Same like soulblaze iirc

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I just used blazing trauma for the first time in a while

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It helps a LOT vs the sometimes 10 scrab ragers running at you

half turtle
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is soulblaze good now? i've been running rending + flurry

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but with perilous combustion for soulfire stacks bc i had extra points

spare light
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It's been good since I started playing a few weeks ago

kind jay
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it's good on trauma specifically but not so much on force swords

spare light
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oh yeah, totally

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let me rephrase

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it's good on a crit build

heady garnet
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Are any of the melee weapons besides force and dueling sword worth running?

spare light
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I'm running this gimp staff rn, I'm missing 5% crit and a better leveled nexus, but it slaps

half turtle
spare light
half turtle
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chainsword also feels ok

spare light
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I personally stick to Illisi or DS4

heady garnet
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I have a decent base for all of em but the animation for chainsword feels so scary

spare light
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Illisi + deflector is just chefkiss

half turtle
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i think ds4 is overall the best weapon against most things and in most situations

kind jay
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devil claw is very good now

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so is chainsword

half turtle
heady garnet
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deflector my beloved 😭

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the only force sowrd I've never tried is obscurus

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I don't think I've seen anyone run it either

half turtle
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i used to run it all the time back in the day

kind jay
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the counter is super nice and actually great tanking fast things like chaos spawn and hitting them

half turtle
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but illisi doesn't get stuck so it's just objectively better

heady garnet
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How much more damage does activating the force sword do exactly?

half turtle
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literally skill issue

kind jay
half turtle
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it's just that almost every other weapon has either a) a quick bop that ignores stagger resistance b) a charge-up that makes the next attack do a crapton of damage

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and then devil claw's like "btw my special is a counter"

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and i literally haven't used devil claw since 2022

spare light
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Yea but the counter is nice

half turtle
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yeah i just need to get used to it

spare light
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It's maybe not the best for damage, but you can tank bosses for a while with it

kind jay
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they have decent horde clear too

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mk1 spam heavies or mk4 l1h2

vestal fulcrum
half turtle
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hm what are the reasons you'd want obscurus over deimos

heady garnet
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My knowledge is deimos is horde clear, ilisi is ST

half turtle
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i guess it has a slightly better horde clear pattern?

spare light
heady garnet
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Maybe I've never encountered a good one

heady garnet
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opposite my bad

spare light
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Illisi is horde, deimos is ST, obscurus is a mix

heady garnet
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ohh i see

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that makes sense

vestal fulcrum
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Obscurus is PRETENDING to be a mix

spare light
vestal fulcrum
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But it’s not good at either role

spare light
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IT TRIES ITS BEST OKAY

vestal fulcrum
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This is my Obscurus

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It’s beautiful

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But flawed

heady garnet
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gonna ask again how much more damage does the warp charged attack deal again?

spare light
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this is my first ever made Illisi

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rolled it after I hit 30

vestal fulcrum
half turtle
vestal fulcrum
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It’s enough to kill a Mutant to the body with a charged special, so that’s good enough for me

spare light
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I like charging my illisi & doing a heavy attack to clear a good chunk of chaff, but deimos charged can almost one shot mutants

vestal fulcrum
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With good enough properties/modifiers at the very least

half turtle
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yeah you can do the chainsword mutant blowby thing but the obscurus's heavies are harder to hit on it than the chainsword's imo

heady garnet
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@vestal fulcrum oh good poibt

vestal fulcrum
hearty spade
heady garnet
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I feel so VULNERABLE when I'm charging the sword probably a skill diff

spare light
hearty spade
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yep

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poke em in the eye and they fall

half turtle
hearty spade
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but their head is tiny so sometimes you miss ;D

half turtle
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you almost always can shove > special > heavy if you have stamina

spare light
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You can also charged heavy deimos on a passing mutant

half turtle
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or shove > backdodgeslide + special > heavy depending on what you're fighting

heady garnet
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Throwback to my cursed deimos that does less on the heavy attack

half turtle
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lol 19% damage

heady garnet
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I hope we get the red weapons soon

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And that they eat Diamantine instead of plas

tacit hill
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what is peril never heard of this word before

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is it that mana/chaos gauge below crosshair?

vestal fulcrum
vestal fulcrum
spare light
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If you stack too much peril you explode

tacit hill
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too late

spare light
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But you want to keep it as high as possible for maximum deeps!

vestal fulcrum
#

Well, at least if you have Nexus blessing on your staff or the Warp Rider feat. And there’s not a reason not to be using Warp Rider currently

tacit hill
spare light
tacit hill
#

oh nice combo lookin forward to it

spare light
#

If you press R while not using a gun, you'll also quell your current peril, making it go down

queen fog
#

Once u get access to the armory you’ll be able to see what level you’ll unlock the cool witch staves, will be under brutes armory

#

All u need to do is become level 2 thumbsup_ogryn

abstract badger
#

Can understand the assail hate but whats wrong with handcannon? xD

spare light
#

Best psyker leveling tip: get Assail ASAP

spare light
abstract badger
#

wait rly?

plucky flax
clever root
#

Psyker is my least played class so I have no idea what to change on this

spare light
thin finch
spare light
plucky flax
#

I like it because it's totally not op. whatthefuck_heresy

tacit hill
#

well I'm converting into psyker because assail last my kill every game lol

spare light
thin finch
#

The peril gauge is a very weird thing because it'q something you want both high and low.
,pro tip ,most of the bonus tops at 80% peril ,so juggling between 80 and 99% is a Psyker funni line

plucky flax
#

Surge is good its my 2nd most played staff.

#

I played a lot of surge pre 13 too. And then they buffed it.

clever root
near wyvern
tacit hill
#

man I wish I could press R in melee

heady garnet
spare light
thin finch
tacit hill
#

oh nice good to know thanks

rare storm
heady garnet
#

I did actually for shits and giggles, rolled sprint speed and exorcist 1 kek

rare storm
#

Shiiii creepysmile

spare light
#

I finally good a good one with a good dump stat

rare storm
#

One day when I have the plasteel Ima make a bunch of meme weps

rare storm
#

May hadron bless you

spare light
rare storm
#

Les go

spare light
#

tbf I'm running this, it's kinda gimped , but probably better

plucky flax
#

Lvl 1 warp nexus staregryn

rare storm
#

wdf is that nexus

spare light
plucky flax
spare light
#

okay but seriously, 32K plasteel and this is the best I got

rare storm
#

To be fair if you fixed that staff, it would be pretty decent

#

aka a lv3 nexus at least

spare light
#

the amount of sustained fire blessing is too damn high

vernal frost
#

anyone knows how to 1shs a mutie with maccabian mkiv?

spare light
karmic fractal
#

So uhm... do marked enemies through DD actually glow or smth?

rare storm
vernal frost
rare storm
rare storm
vernal frost
#

hmmm

#

thanks!

karmic fractal
spare light
#

and first target helps

karmic fractal
#

not a single glowing enemy.

rare storm
rare storm
#

but there is a known issue where DD targets actually don't glow for some reason

#

So... at some point it's spray and pray till you see a highlight appear again

karmic fractal
#

snap, wanted to give a gun psyker a go

#

well, back to the shelf with you, third loadout slot!

rare storm
#

It's still good, I can maintain 15 stacks 90% of the run

karmic fractal
#

good to hear!

#

don't really want to run Stubnose tho, any other recommendations?

drowsy cave
#

Hello folks. Is there a place I can easily check which blessings I'm supposed to be on the lookout for as psyker? Just hit lvl 30

karmic fractal
#

(frickin' shame that Psykers can't use a Bolt gun sadge )

karmic fractal
karmic fractal
#

On Duelling Sword, most likely Shred and Uncanny Strike

#

I like to run Deflector on Force Swords, tho, as I've understood it ain't mandatory.

#

kind of a habit of playing 1.0 darktide

drowsy cave
#

Thanks, @karmic fractal . I was kinda lost on what blessings to use. Gotta read up on the subject eventually but thanks to your help I can be on the lookout for those.

karmic fractal
plucky flax
#

Surge only have 3 blessings. So it's a high chance you get nexus as second anyway.

karmic fractal
#

Oh I already have a t4 nexus available

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was, actually, thinking of reblessing the Flurry into a t4 Nexus, to give a chance of t4 flurry of reappearing

plucky flax
#

Yeah that's a way to farm blessing.

thin finch
#

But when it does ,it's a wallhack

near wyvern
karmic fractal
#

Checks multiple other builds -> Sees about 40k Builds with a Stubnose built with Handcannon.

near wyvern
#

check atheneum, no single build made with bug abuse

plucky flax
#

Not abusing bugs in 2023. PainsChamp

raven zenith
#

so what's the current consensus on duelling swords? i really like the mk IV but haven't tried the others much at all

plucky flax
#

Mk4 does the most damage with its heavies for no particular reason.

#

So just use that until fs adjust the other 2 marks.

raven zenith
#

assuming they get adjusted, any advantages in the moveset of the other mks?

vestal fulcrum
#

Not really

raven zenith
#

noticed the V has a strikedown in the light chain, not really a fan

vestal fulcrum
#

I mean, I played Mk2 quite a bit before I noticed that Mk4 was buffed through the roof

#

Mk2 is trying to be both Mk5 and Mk4 at the same time

#

And neither of these it does well

plucky flax
#

Then it becomes preference. I would use mk5 if it does same damage because I prefer the longer dodges and heavies pattern on 5.

supple turtle
#

Anyone know what "DS4" means?

vestal fulcrum
#

Mk5 certainly is a defensive option, but I don’t really like how its light attacks swing

vestal fulcrum
supple turtle
#

Ah cheers

plucky flax
#

Mk5 all attacks are so shaggy.

#

Swaggy

#

Feels like proper pirate.

vestal fulcrum
#

The overheads are also very smooth in repeated chaining

plucky flax
#

The 2 lights attack pattern on 4 looks so bad.

silk hawk
#

i use mk2

#

xD

raven zenith
plucky flax
#

Oh I was referring to the light attacks.

raven zenith
#

feels more french than pirate, which is kinda sweet on my french accent yvette

plucky flax
#

The heavies are good but the light is just 2 diagonal loop.

#

It doesn't feel good to spam it. Similar to power sword mk3 with the boring lights.

silk hawk
#

anyways, someone tell me what is the dif between auric and normal?

vestal fulcrum
raven zenith
#

auric have more difficult modifiers and are guaranteed to have at least high intensity

vestal fulcrum
#
  • other modifiers if applicable
silk hawk
#

i see, tnx

raven zenith
#

i kinda miss having lights out on low intensity missions, those were my fav to just chill in to warm up

vestal fulcrum
#

Also, “threat” mechanic in Auric is more prevalent. It basically comes down to: if things go bad in a game, there will be a shorter grace period for you before the AI director starts throwing specials/hordes at you

solid reef
raven zenith
#

haha

fringe tangle
#

New Psyker class just dropped, the Psyker Infiltrator.

coarse bane
#

Nothing worse than playing a sniper build, and than quick play into a zero visibility map.

raven zenith
#

gonna try this build out with DS and heavy laspistol, any recommendation/changes before i take it for a spin?

coarse bane
#

When I was leveling my veteran, that happened. Worst experience in this game yet.

still hearth
raven zenith
#

using a mod to get it on one screenshot, putting it back to normal for normal gameplay

#

because you're abosultely right, it is an abomination

#

heresy even

coarse bane
raven zenith
#

DS4 has served me well so far

#

light attack spam into a horde usually makes it go away if you hit heads

coarse bane
#

Dueling sword is DS?

raven zenith
#

ye

raven zenith
#

also just learned about it for the first time xD

coarse bane
#

Ok, yeah, and mutants die fast with the right perks.

raven zenith
#

muties get a headstab and fall over

#

same for crushers but like 7 headstabs

coarse bane
#

I'll stick with my Diemos force sword. I enjoy the push back too much.

plucky flax
raven zenith
raven zenith
#

blitz is mostly there to trigger auto-pops

plucky flax
#

Fair thumbs

#

I always recommend trying to take combustion.

coarse bane
#

Pop the sniper from behind cover.

raven zenith
#

not sure about disrupt destiny though tbh...it's always felt inconsistent

#

but i like the idea so much

spare light
#

I like Trauma, but my god can it be annoying to place in stairs/different levels of height

sonic whale
raven zenith
#

not sure it's worth it tho

#

gonna try both eventually

plucky flax
#

Combustion always worth it.

spare light
#

Combustion is pretty good, why else would fatshark nerf it?

raven zenith
#

15 extra toughness or 5% toughness dr better?

spare light
#

hmm

plucky flax
#

I always take the flat toughness.

spare light
#

I'd go for toughness, cause preferably you don't want to get hit?

raven zenith
#

makes sense, and probably maths out better because my trinkets give me a combined +29%

spare light
#

@plucky flax Also, while Trauma is good, I do believe it shines better in auric than in regular damnation, then I'd still go for surge/smite

plucky flax
#

Yeah more enemies more cleave.

spare light
#

And people have better 'sense' of what to do in auric, usually.. hopefully

plucky flax
#

Easiest and fastest way to clear regular damn is just handcannon assail.

spare light
#

Yeah true

#

Trauma cleave has no limit right?

raven zenith
#

right, let's take this baby for a spin, be back in 20min give or take

plucky flax
#

Nein.

#

If it's tight enough in that circle everything die.

spare light
#

Noice

#

I do miss having flurry on it

plucky flax
#

That's why you want 80% charge rate.

spare light
#

Yes well, we've been over this

plucky flax
#

If fs let us have red weapon, 100% charge rate on trauma is 1 second flat to full charge.

#

Now that's op.

spare light
#

True

#

Damage-Blast Radius-Charge rate are the top 3 stats I assume

plucky flax
#

Yeah all 3 at 80%.

spare light
#

best I can do is kekw

plucky flax
spare light
#

my ONLY good trauma staff I got, when I first hit 30

plucky flax
#

Ewww it's the rending build.

spare light
#

Shhh, I foolishly believed a YTer

rare storm
#

To be fair

#

Rending builds are good if you have friends

#

IF you have friends

mossy surge
rare storm
mossy surge
plucky flax
#

I don't want people to get jealous.

coarse bane
#

I should share an image of my 380 force sword. Not the absolute best, but it rolled well enough.

spare light
#

this is his force staff kekw

mossy surge
rare storm
#

Double doxed

plucky flax
#

This is invasion of privacy. SadgeCry

coarse bane
#

That's a nice staff. Would be better on a Surge staff though.

plucky flax
#

I don't get your statement.

mossy surge
plucky flax
#

I have a decent surge staff too.

spare light
#

opinions? HMM

coarse bane
mossy surge
#

Surge sucked and will still suck until they change its behaviour

coarse bane
#

Will it get fixed, maybe? I mean Krak grenades exist so who knows.

spare light
#

my god, getting a good trauma is an absolute fucking trauma

plucky flax
#

You're feeling my pain some months ago.

mossy surge
spare light
plucky flax
#

Certified hab dreyko memer.

thin finch
#

I feel like brunt is a bitxh with trauma

spare light
#

CAN WE BRICK IT?!

raven zenith
spare light
#

ayo nvm Hadron, my bad

rare storm
#

Damn

#

I was hoping for it to brick

spare light
#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

I mean I get it

#

Oof, vent purge damnation with 2x level 20's, don't mind if I hop on out

plucky flax
#

It's decent. Pogryn

raven zenith
raven zenith
#

laspistol stands to get some improvements tho..should i get infernus or reassuringly off it?

main jolt
#

worth keeping? Peepo_Shrug

#

wrong chat soz

main jolt
#

but still

rare storm
mossy surge
main jolt
#

two 80's is nice

rare storm
raven zenith
mossy surge
#

How many hits does it take to kill a crusher? marelogers

rare storm
mossy surge
#

This is mine ScrimboBimblerPajama

plucky flax
#

No maniac

mossy surge
#

I two shot maniacs anyways whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
rare storm
#

Why 2 shot when you can 1 shot

mossy surge
#

I hunt down big Bois whatthefuck_heresy

#

Cause maniacs ain't a threat ScrimboBimblerPajama

plucky flax
#

Muties meat train whatthefuck_heresy

mossy surge
#

Meat trains is one shot tho

raven zenith
mossy surge
#

They have less resistance

#

Or less hp idk which

rare storm
#

hmm... salvagable?

mossy surge
#

Riposte to uncanny

#

Unarmored to cara or elite

rare storm
#

It would still be an upgrade to my prev one ya

mossy surge
rare storm
mossy surge
mossy surge
raven zenith
#

4 in meat grinder damnation

#

less in actual game because crit chance gets buffed by dodge

#

don't think i can get under 3 tho

mossy surge
#

sadge i do it on two

raven zenith
#

nice

mossy surge
#

but that is if i run elite dmg

#

but i want unyielding for boss

raven zenith
#

i'll get a better DS4 at some point, for now melk is just selling trash as always

plucky flax
rare storm
#

It's a feature(bugged) now ya?

#

Shove a horde = free 2x dmg on all swings?

plucky flax
#

Yeah it does more damage than intended.

rare storm
#

Interesting

#

Wonder if it's better than precog rn

plucky flax
#

It's better for horde clear.

#

Precog better for single target.

rare storm
#

I see

#

aite

dark radish
#

Is Spamming Smite when hoard arrive viable play for Psyker on Auric or should I just also get into melee as well?

thin finch
#

horde clear => MK4
why tho

still hearth
#

Spamming Smite is pretty much the worst option

#

You could be hitting them with your staff melee

#

And it does more damage

dark radish
plucky flax
kind jay
#

you can smite from 0 to 100 and it will kill most of the chaff

thin finch
#

Don't listen to her, she does not believe in CC
But uh yeah on horde it's not that usefull unless you grab some elite in the bunch

still hearth
#

Not bad CC

plucky flax
#

Melee only maelstrom.

#

Time to meme with blaze trauma. whatthefuck_heresy

still hearth
kind jay
#

nah most of

still hearth
#

If you have Empowered you might kill like 10 or something

plucky flax
#

4 psykers melee maelstrom Pogryn

#

All 4 different staves.

spare light
rare storm
spare light
#

@plucky flax ahhhhhh

#

Hadron blesseth

spare light
kind jay
spare light
#

and CC'ing elites

rare storm
still hearth
#

I mean if you run Smite and Fire Shriek then yeah

#

That deletes hordes

raven zenith
rare storm
#

Just need a good blaze trauma now

#

the gamba continues

mossy surge
still hearth
#

It's just that the only attack that can activate it is push attack

mossy surge
#

it applies 50% + the one its says it will apply

raven zenith
#

Huh

#

Neat

kind jay
#

bugtide

rare storm
#

bugker*

raven zenith
#

why are operative slots

kind jay
#

why aren't

raven zenith
#

more specifically why are 5 operative slots

#

why can't i make one of each class + 5 psychers for roleplay memes

kind jay
#

just make 5 psykers to farm milk

spare light
raven zenith
#

lmao

mossy surge
thin finch
#

Smite with EP is pointless ,you should run it with warp charges

#

And enjoy actual peril cost reduction for more efficient CC as well as the +33% peril quelled that synergize with the auto quell of smite

mental rock
#

Smite is not pointless with ep, especially with surge staff

thin finch
mental rock
#

At least right now anyway, once surge is fixed ep smite will actually be worthless

thin finch
#

The increase in damage is not a lot and the faster sprezd is nil with the right click

#

My point being "if you want to run smite as CC"

#

Then warp charge that gives you -6% peril per stack is great

mental rock
#

No one runs surge for cc now because smite fulfills that purpose

#

And surge only hits 2

still hearth
#

I disagree with their choices

mental rock
#

Okay no one who plays optimally run surge for cc

thin finch
mental rock
#

Ah

#

Well I don't really know how impactful that peril reduction with smite is cause I always run ep smite right now, but I imagine it's still preference because you could just go shriek for peril management

thin finch
#

I often mix the the two 😦

still hearth
#

I never run peril reduction for Smite because I want high peril to shout

#

And it already holds enemies for like 5s

spare light
#

I run surge, cause I like it

kind jay
#

i too am filthy surge main

spare light
#

I wish if you spawned into a ongoing mission

#

you get 10 seconds of immunity

#

just spawned into 6 crushers lmao

rain hill
#

Anyone running a melee build?

spare light
#

Arco usually does

#

MK4 assail & trauma I think?

plucky flax
#

Damn I can't believe we might lose this.

#

I died. 😦

#

RIP

hushed hinge
#

I've started playing psyker more recently and it's pretty fun, but I'm struggling doing anything to bosses. Is there a particular weapon anyone runs for assassination missions or for plague ogryns, etc? I'm considering swapping out my deimos force sword to a chain sword.

lyric burrow
# rain hill Anyone running a melee build?

I have a scriers + DD melee build for duelling sword (probably works with deimos too) i can send when i get home although i havent run it a ton yet but ive done quite well in the runs ive done

brave fiber
plucky flax
#

Just kidding we made it outta tertium with this one.

lyric burrow
thin finch
lyric burrow
#

Duelling sword is safer

silk hawk
#

BB is safer

#

xD

plucky flax
#

Purgatus guy ragequitted when he died at end event. He did 3rd most damage.

#

I did have more warp fire damage than him though even though I use blaze trauma.

rain hill
#

I'm looking into making one and was looking at recommendations to start from. Just kinda theory crafting atm @lyric burrow

lyric burrow
#

If you just take crit chance stuff with duelling sword its always a good start

hushed hinge
#

Dueling sword and aim for weak spots?

lyric burrow
#

Scriers can get DS to horde clear as well esp with stuff like rampage or shred

lyric burrow
silk hawk
#

DS2 is the king thou

lyric burrow
#

Still not amazing for boss damage but usable

silk hawk
raven zenith
kind jay
#

chainsword+bloodletter, mk4 duel, bleed knife, deimos, void+surge blessing, are all workable bossing options

terse saffron
lyric burrow
#

I do actually use mk2 duelling sword however mk4 is def better

terse saffron
#

got staggered by some bruiser at the shittiest moment

lyric burrow
#

Mk2 is fine but heavy spam is worse sadly

silk hawk
raven zenith
#

while we're at trauma staves

silk hawk
#

anyway i think deimos is the funniest single target dps

rain hill
#

What about force swords, are those viable for a melee build?

plucky flax
silk hawk
#

move set is a bit pain to use, but still

spare light
#

Doing auric maelstrom scab melee only, trauma staff really amazing, if you can get it off..

raven zenith
lyric burrow
#

Force swords are very good yeah

silk hawk
#

Illisi if u want to clear hordes with it

lyric burrow
#

Obscurus is mid tho

silk hawk
#

i wish force swords had +1 charge attack blessing...

terse saffron
#

what do i change in this one?

spare sail
#

holy fucking rnjesus

rain meadow
#

hello space wizard money gang

silk hawk
#

ranged weak spot for crit chance

#

and i would change flurry for blazing spirit

idle bay
#

Same mental "i'm stupid" virus infected most the players i get matched with in Power Matrix (cryo rods in the end). Huge are with two path leading into it. Moronic virus activates - and people go into different corners of that area for no good reason to be insta killed by ragers/maulers spawn. Every karking time 🙂

terse saffron
idle bay
#

They usualy spawn right behin with no sound and then you are dead 🙂

lyric burrow
#

Id personally change nexus to shockwave and weakspot to flak since nexus is only t3 and wouldnt be changeable

spare light
spare sail
#

who are you sucking off to get these stats

spare light
#

ikr lmao

spare sail
#

and can i join

silk hawk
#

and level up nexus

silk hawk
# terse saffron what do i change in this one?

Masteryoshi — Сегодня, в 17:58
Id personally change nexus to shockwave and weakspot to flak since nexus is only t3 and wouldnt be changeable

If u are okay with rending build - u can do that

lyric burrow
#

Yeah thats if you dont have a rending one already

terse saffron
#

i just want something for melee only maelstroms

#

voidstrike straight up aint cutting it

lyric burrow
#

Then yeah id do the rending

spare sail
#

rending is very good. it applies a debuff on emimes scaling with the level of charge

lyric burrow
#

Its like all flak and carapace

#

Helps the team

silk hawk
#

althrough randing is a bit more dependent on your teammates

spare sail
#

i personally use rending and blazing and i love it

lyric burrow
#

Uncanny on deimos/DS helps too

silk hawk
#

thats funny to kill carapace armors with uncanny on melee weapon thou XD

#

with purgatus

#

XDD

terse saffron
#

while we're talking staffs is this one salvageable or 🧱

spare sail
#

god roll stat wise

#

purg builds peril super super slowly

#

burn and cloud are the stats you want at max

silk hawk
#

thats a very decent purgatus

spare sail
#

which you have

silk hawk
#

do purgatus crits still apply more burn stacks then usual?

spare sail
#

i think so

silk hawk
#

u can slap crit chance instead of stamina and u are set XD

terse saffron
#

can clouds stack true aim?

plucky flax
silk hawk
#

i dont think so...

spare sail
#

can purg hit weak spot?

silk hawk
#

they are basically not a projectiles

plucky flax
silk hawk
#

it has only white or yellow numbers

lyric burrow
#

Crits apply more stacks of soulblaze yes

terse saffron
#

can trauma hit weakspots with secondary at all?

rain hill
#

Thanks for the information. Gonna do some messing around. Might end up posting a build

lyric burrow
#

Its why transfer peril is pretty useless

terse saffron
spare sail
#

other one was better

quasi junco
#

I for the life of me can’t play the scriers Gunker w/ DS. Using surge as blitz.

Keep getting surrounded in damnation. Any tips?

#

Change out DS to Illisi?

vestal fulcrum
#

Surge doesn’t really work well as a blitz on Gun psyker

plucky flax
#

To horde clear with ds you need rampage.

spare sail
#

havent tried gun psyker before so i got no idea

raven zenith
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
#

Melee is not necessarily a problem, although that depends on what you want to achieve with it.

plucky flax
#

Okay without rampage maybe it's too slow.

quasi junco
#

Surge is great for locking down carapace

#

My DS pokes aren’t going to solo 5 crushers

plucky flax
#

If you have uncanny and pop gazer you can 3 or 4 shots per crusher.

vestal fulcrum
spare light
#

Had one of them assail/void psykers at level 32 in auric maelstrom who was spamming assail lmb on scab melee only units 🙂

quasi junco
plucky flax
#

Assail is strong against scab.

vestal fulcrum
spare light
vestal fulcrum
#

Other classes have better supporting abilities with instant effects

#

What is your ranged weapon, by the way?

spare light
#

I don't even think he charged any void rmb thonk

keen slate
#

There's something wrong with my dueling sword

plucky flax
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It's pretty good against mauler. Not against bulwark or crusher indeed.

quasi junco
gray island
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its a grower not a shower

quasi junco
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I think I need to accept Gunker is not for me.

vestal fulcrum
quasi junco
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Purgatus/BB
Void/Surge
Are my favorites

vestal fulcrum
quasi junco
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I’m also afraid assail will get nerfed lol

vestal fulcrum
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I don’t see any potential use for Surge on Gun Psyker. You have better things to do than hold that blitz for X+ seconds

lyric burrow
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Assail may get nerfed but they could nerf it a second time and it would still be good

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Esp compared to like BR

vestal fulcrum
blazing echo
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worth getting?

obtuse pulsar
lyric burrow
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Swap TB to nexus

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Only downside to it is not t4 flurry

gray island
lyric burrow
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Other than that its perfect

blazing echo
gray island
blazing echo
gray island
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the lighting itself is enough suppression without TB imo.

glossy ember
spare sail
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now watch it go 0-4 on perks

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and blessings

glossy ember
#

trust in the omnissiah....

spare light
#

that counts, right?

gray island
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in a good way, right??

spare light
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..sure

plucky flax
glossy ember
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surely you won't get run n gun CluelessChatting

spare light
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I totally didn't get it 7 times in a row on my trauma arc

gray island
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sick purge staff layout might swap the bubble for the double wwall for extra burning

neat summit
plucky flax
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Empowered bb. Pogryn

gray island
plucky flax
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I've never tried empowered bb. I'm just thinking if you gotta use it on something that won't return an empowered charge then it feels bad. Sitgryn

neat summit
plucky flax
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He's using purga staff. How to deal with a bunch of shooters far away?

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Rip all charges? FeelsStrongMan

gray island
plucky flax
neat summit
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Lol you use cover, shield, and kinetic deflector to move up and torch them

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That’s how I do it on auric damns

plucky flax
#

Damn so pro.

#

I am still in sedition.

valid talon
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I just you know left click on them and they die

#

But your idea works too

neat summit
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Yah I don’t use BB on anything not a special

plucky flax
neat summit
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Regular dudes get flames and stabbed

orchid shadow
#

I find there is nothing more satisfying than shrieking a crowd down to expose a line of sight to a distant sniper, followed by a thunk of chunked brains.

valid talon
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Is the purge staff ever worth it? I feel like smite does CC just fine and you don't give up your ranged and single target capability for it

gray island
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purge is for killing not cc

normal matrix
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why on earth does everyone in malice pubs have the collective co-ordination of a headless chicken

valid talon
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I mean its good versus mobs but like...just use your melee weapon lol

gray island
valid talon
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If theres too many mobs guess what CC smite works

silk hawk
#

what is eroror 3013? xD

gray island
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stab single targets/elites, burn hordes, BB far awway boys, bubble for def

silk hawk
#

where is your uncanny? D:

normal matrix
spare light
valid talon
#

I uh...you make brain burst work?

plucky flax
valid talon
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I find its way too slow and investment heavy for its payoff

normal matrix
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i run empowered psionics and soulblaze

valid talon
#

I tried it with that, same thing

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I find a veteran can do what you do in half the time

idle bay
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The most tedious penance in game...

normal matrix
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it's kind of the krak grenade of psyker

valid talon
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Without the caveats

normal matrix
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well, no, BB is like the smoke nade of psyker

plucky flax