psyker-class

[soft notch]

flakiac

[bleak tulip]

surge

[rare storm]

Surge flurry with true aim is good too

[bleak tulip]

basically

[robust sierra]

thanks

[robust sierra]

also thanks

[strong gulch]

Nexus + surge for blessings.

True aim node from the right side of the tree. Surge + flurry would also be nice.

[bleak tulip]

also blast radius is the real dump stat, should that come up

[strong gulch]

Perks are generally flak + maniac

[bleak tulip]

wouldnt recommend maniac, you'll be meleeing muties

get crit over it

when you use surge

[strong gulch]

BUT be sure to check your build in the meat grinder. Sometimes something is close to a break point.

Mutants are not the only high value mutant armor types.

[olive ember]

its just mutants and ragers

[strong gulch]

But that's why is say general. As in the general rec for staves and not build specific.

correct

[bleak tulip]

youll blow up trappers with half charge, dreg ragers get staggered super easily

[robust sierra]

ok thanks guys

I'll probably be back later on asking more redundant questions lol

[bleak tulip]

youll knock em on their ass so easily, also you two shot em

mutant really isnt needed for breakpoint on em

itll maybe lower the amount you gotta charge

[strong gulch]

TBF a lot of descriptions are either misleading or wrong, so if you aren't getting overwhelmed by new info, tool tips can get ya.

[strong gulch]

I didn't say it was.

[bleak tulip]

also they just die to crits

[open stratus]

Wait did they screw something up with assail's numbers why does it feel like it's doing no damage?

[strong gulch]

Praise be to crits.

[bleak tulip]

thats with mutie and without

it doesnt matter a lot imo

literally any damage you do is enough to make a dry mk4 duel stab a kill

since

and thats without maniac on mk4

because hadron

[strong gulch]

I swear Melk only stocks garbage. 😭

[bleak tulip]

idk what you mean this is great

[pale pilot]

melk rarely has something of worth, really you should consider it a source of blessings to feed to hadron

[bleak tulip]

pretty much

imagine if his lootboxes were even remotely worth

what a life

[strong gulch]

I got something great from him one time and now I am stuck in a cycle of maybe this time will be different.

[maiden cedar]

Does warp damage add to your staff damage?

[bleak tulip]

yes

[strong gulch]

yee

[spice veldt]

yup

your blitz and force swords have a quell speed stat of 50%

[bleak tulip]

/me strapping dueling swords to my back as heat sinks

2022 duel sword passive quell heat sinks

does maelstrom have a higher plasteel cap?
I assume not but hey who knows

I sure dont

that would technically make quickplay better for plasteel than maelstrom

[gilded viper]

Does In Fire Reborn, the 10% warp charge on soulflame kill seem to proc less often than before for anyone else?

I feel like it had near constant warp charge uptime prior but now it feels not that great

[bleak tulip]

depends on what you mean by "before"

[gilded viper]

prior to patch 13

[bleak tulip]

purg direct damage got buffed so yeah

youre more likely to kill shit with the direct damage now

might have something to do with it

[gilded viper]

It's not even just with purge, also with shriek

[bleak tulip]

dunno, I just run vampire

more consistent

[brazen warren]

chance on soulblaze kill is only from the dot, assuming you are not using smite or you team is not attacking them so it is very inconsistent outside of hordes

[gilded viper]

WEll it used to be any kill on an enemy that was affected with the dot

So if it's been changed that would explain the dramatic decrease in charge gain

[strong gulch]

I can't remember the last time I tested it, but yeah it was any kill so long as the target had soulblaze.

It didn't even have to be by you.

the kill I mean.

Idk if it had to be your soulblaze

[bleak tulip]

not last I tested

any soulblaze was fine

but that was like

february?

[strong gulch]

Patch 14 was released on the 25th right?

This is my testing on the 26th. #psyker-class message

[gilded viper]

So would you say the uptime prior to the rework has changed?

[north cradle]

Check out what Melk got for me

OOH MELK is working overtime for me for once

[strong gulch]

No clue. I haven't used it to really know.

But right now in the meat grinder it doesn't seem to proc as often as when I previously tested it.

I wonder if it's just bad RNG. That sounds terrible tho.

[brazen warren]

did the way wildfire works get altered? it feels like crap now

[harsh urchin]

it's always been garbage

[strong gulch]

Because is kinda is. It can't stack.

There's some interesting interactions, but it's 🤷 .

[bleak tulip]

relying on dots to trigger shit is just generally not gonna be ideal in a non sp game

[strong gulch]

It's fun when targets in the spawn closets die because of wildfire tho.

Just running around after clearing a horde and you suddenly get credit for killing bombers and trappers that are still standing by.

I wouldn't build for that unless you're memeing.

[visual cape]

why is assail+shield so fun
even after nerf

[ivory kite]

yo guys its it normal that the Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff gets the 125% dmg buff from "empowered Psionics" keystone?

[visual cape]

low skill, but a gas to watch the shards twist and turn midair

[kind jay]

normal? no. awesome? yes

[ivory kite]

absolutely xd having a blast using it xd

[spice veldt]

get that EP surge money

[strong gulch]

If and when it gets patched, I do hope they give surge a bit of a buff.

[dark radish]

is this good?

I donno what Cloud Radius and Burn is

[harsh urchin]

no

you need 80 cloud radius and 76+ burn if possible

[dark radish]

thanks

what's stat I don't need on psyker staff?

[worthy dune]

Worth the grab?

[fleet mason]

For Purgatus damage

[dark radish]

What about Surge staff?

[left mirage]

personally i grab if its 350+ with a good dump stat or 370+ spread evenly

[worthy dune]

Gave me slaught 3 n then I ran outta plas lul

[fleet mason]

Unfortunately it's bricked pal

[worthy dune]

Swap elite dmg out for what? maniac / carapace?

oof fr?

wyzzat

[north cradle]

Maniac

[fleet mason]

You want Maniac/Flak I believe

Unless your 4th perk is exactly what you want it's bricked

[worthy dune]

This is truly my darkest tide

[fleet mason]

This is what we call a good system at play for maximum engagement

You can spend the plasteel if you want but honestly I'd just wait for another

[lunar hollow]

holy shit scrier's is so fun

u run ds4 and just fuckin SHANK people

at HIGH SPEED

[olive ember]

🤔

interesting take on fun

[tender pagoda]

Got me this. What do?

[strong gulch]

You get scrier's and DD stacks and just GO FAST

[strong gulch]

Terrifying barrage to warp flurry.

Unarmoured should be changed to what you need. Depending on build and break points, that could be flak, maniac, carapace.

[paper loom]

this any good?

[dark radish]

Should I use Chain Sword as a Psyker?

[glossy ember]

fellas, is it ok going 2x health 1x wound on curios when starting out

not lv30 yet and curios are sparse, but i could switch to toughness

[sour bison]

Psyker have better options

Dueling mk4 or force swords

Deimos or illisi

Being said

Chainsword is very good now

U can use it if you like it

[harsh urchin]

i recommend 1x hp, 1x toughness, 1x wound

if you're new

for the best balance of extra stats

[spice veldt]

sure y not; if you're blowing up you might as well take a wound

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt im boutta spend

14k plasteel

[spice veldt]

wtf

[lunar hollow]

and a million ordos on guns for psyker

[spice veldt]

insane person

[lunar hollow]

sir

i am

GAMING

[glossy ember]

haven't blown up much, but I do struggle vs ragers. I come from ogryn where those guys were an after thought so I have to learn how to fight them now

[spice veldt]

this is what scrier's gaze does to good people

[spice veldt]

should be a lot comfier after you get kinetic deflection

[cedar zenith]

Toughness curios bait

[glossy ember]

that the talent that lets you block with peril?

[spice veldt]

ye

[glossy ember]

got it yday before stopping

[harsh urchin]

😔

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[harsh urchin]

the hard-earned ordos

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt FIRST REVOLVER ROLL

[harsh urchin]

I earned for him

[lunar hollow]

LETS FUCKIN GOOOOO

[spice veldt]

wtf

[harsh urchin]

and he wastes it like this

smh

[lunar hollow]

BLASTIN

[spice veldt]

i'll kill you

what the hell is this luck

[lunar hollow]

im SCRYING

[spice veldt]

well t3 surgical

i shall withhold my jealousy for now

[harsh urchin]

t3 hand cannon as well

[spice veldt]

ikr

pretty cringe

[lunar hollow]

coping rn

[spice veldt]

no u

[lunar hollow]

idk if flak hits BPs on revolver

for psyker

[harsh urchin]

my zealot volver: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/229808586593665026/1159661092994293781/image.png?ex=654d850e&is=653b100e&hm=5ec3d72eb9a81bf748d2cac3c9d301a50a1c0138867b8fd515204745934bb581&=&width=303&height=442

[lunar hollow]

what gun next

hmmm

[glossy ember]

this any good?

[lunar hollow]

yes

although i dont think its necessary

because u can grab soulstealer/quietude etc

and have v good toughness regen w/o it

so if u end up needing points elsewhere i would sac that

[royal granite]

well it helps your team

[glossy ember]

hmmm

[glossy ember]

i'm already running bubble shield tho, might be overkill

i also use BB

so not sure how well it synergizes

[burnt island]

Lol idk why I don't have this sort of luck on my vet main account, but I guess my psyker gets to enjoy it now.

[idle bay]

@spice veldt if i caught it correctly: Laspistol with Dumdim + Infernus + Gaze = noticeable boss damage?

[glossy ember]

switched out my wound curio to stamina curio after reading the pins, did wonders for my survival

esp with kinetic block

does the rectangle shield let you trigger Kinetic Resonance twice in a row?

[spice veldt]

laspistol is pretty gr8, though I forget how it does against unyielding by now since i haven't been using it

oh right it has an unusually high crit damage multiplier against unyielding specifically compared to the other armour types

[chrome linden]

so went to roll something for my lvl 7 psycher........got this

[paper loom]

any trauma staff enjoyers say if this is good or not?

[still hearth]

Weak perks. Bad blessings

Good base

Sad

[paper loom]

shame never used a trauma staff

[still hearth]

But it and h(c)ope they remove locks in 2 years

[burnt island]

Can't get more Western than that.

[winter magnet]

the fact that shield just deletes projectiles is crazy

let's me do this shit https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1AUioN8EHwx53u/d1337OOiOzrF?invite=cr-MSxIUGosMTgxODMyMjkzLA

which is just not ok

but very good for bosses :)

specifically nurgle

[idle bay]

I think this might do.. sadly no spot for 5% crit... or i have to replace +25% Unyilding for it

[winter magnet]

nice gun

[near wyvern]

This will do

[burnt island]

Now you got me wondering if I can improve this.

[idle bay]

i've finally got a taste of POKE of Dueling sword... i mean i have no idea why i was sticking to the Force Sword all this time...

[burnt island]

For the anti armor ability. Lol

[idle bay]

For Deflector most likely 🙂

so sad that game have only of of the kind for Investigation and Repair missions...

[cosmic sigil]

infernus 4 and a perk for unyielding dmg maybe

[idle bay]

I mean look at mission completion distribution

[burnt island]

I always wondered. Why unyielding?

[idle bay]

I've been hunting for Investigation and reapirs for last 3 days...

[burnt island]

That's funny. I've actually done both of those types at least twice today.

[cosmic sigil]

so i was wondering.. for assail between warp charges / empowered psionics / disrupt destiny what are the pro and cons?

[young meteor]

Switch perks to flaniac

[cosmic sigil]

i feel like i am not really losing dmg going warp charges, and i can quell spam for much longer

[strong gulch]

I finally completed repair and investigation 2 for the penance because I wanted the golden fist.

So annoying how little they pop up compared to the others.

[burnt island]

So.. What's the poking rapier?

[strong gulch]

mk 4

[harsh urchin]

going warp charges means you cant press f

[near wyvern]

DS has a hard time one shotting mutants tho

[strong gulch]

DS pushes also are not as strong.

[near wyvern]

For laspistol? It's Psykers top monstrosity DPS

I feel like DS4 is the better Obscurus but gotta test Obscurus again before I can land on that opinion

[strong gulch]

I do like the DS special tho.

[hidden coral]

Posting here for revolver beans, just found some crazy tech

melee cleaves through carapace

It's insane

Don't even need a melee weapon equipped anymore

[cosmic sigil]

?

so?

before the patch i never had a problem to regain those warp charges, especially in hi int / auric

[tired jackal]

@spice veldt was ther you derlin

[cosmic sigil]

they changed stuff?

[spice veldt]

ye

[tired jackal]

lel

[spice veldt]

vet gaming

[tired jackal]

i have a meh ps and plasma blue and green curios lol

[spice veldt]

i'm a decked out af vet

got them crusher two-shots in my back pocket with my psword

[tired jackal]

if you playing more ill que with ya

[glossy ember]

[spice veldt]

sure

[cosmic sigil]

that l4 is sooooooo infuriating

[tired jackal]

will swap to zealot though

[spice veldt]

this is my FS code 6399167938

[spice veldt]

i love the l4 if it's like a mauler mixed into a horde

pretty whack if I miss a few swings for pcycler and my character throws out a vertical overhead when i'm trying to hordeclear

[glossy ember]

"surely i'd get anything else than run n gun!"

[cosmic sigil]

yeah but i want to that l4, i fail the combo nine time out of ten

[glossy ember]

well, i'll take the upgrade

[cosmic sigil]

but yeah, this is glorious

[strong gulch]

It's me. Revolver Beans.

[hidden coral]

oh my god, the og

[strong gulch]

Calling myself revolver beans implies that I am good with revolver. That is not the case.

[near wyvern]

Revolver reload so slow

[strong gulch]

ye

[hidden coral]

Yeeee it's part of why I only really use it on Vet, can get those maxed out dexterity fingers and reload it super fast

Respect on psykers shooting it with mind juice for extra damage though

[near wyvern]

Headhunter VII is sorta pseudo revolver now, just doesn't cleave as much

But bigger mag

But I gotta admit, my new favourite gunker loadout is combat knife + columnus

With assails ofc

[strong gulch]

The reload speed plus me being slow af is why I don't use crucian roulette and use surgical instead. I like the freedom of reloading whenever I can.

[light citrus]

Glass Cannon

[dim token]

is this worth it looks cool

[strong gulch]

I like knife a lot.

[near wyvern]

I would take mettle over the 15% toughness back on empower

[light citrus]

Max out DPS

[near wyvern]

Not really, you are missing out on some assail DPS cause you take mind in motion

[strong gulch]

I cry. No true aim or PC

[light citrus]

Show me your build

[near wyvern]

Which one 😂

[strong gulch]

OMG that unlocked a movie memory.

"Show me your dancing."

[plucky flax]

Revolver assail rejoice

[light citrus]

Assail

[burnt island]

I refuse to believe that I, the laspistol+bleed knife+assail, did the most damage to boss. This scoreboard is messed up.

[light citrus]

How about this

[plucky flax]

Dd gigachad

I'd always try to take combustion tho

[near wyvern]

If you like DD, but there is no need to take improved quelling speed, it only affects manual quell and you will be gated by assail recharge rate not quelling speed, and that middle node in DD is a wasted talent point

And again mind in motion should not be taken instead of the damage talent

@light citrus

https://streamable.com/kdikd2

[strong gulch]

Still investing into DD and Scrier's but you get PC with 2 points to feck around with.

[stiff reef]

is that a terrible stat to have low?

also found this in the store today

just never tried purgatus much

[strong gulch]

Wouldn't invest in the void unless you're blessing hunting.

That's a nice purg.

EDIT to correct to wouldn't

[stiff reef]

Bruh

[near wyvern]

Yeah this is better, I'd still drop mind in motion for the warp damage buff on non warp kills

[stiff reef]

Is this good now? xD

Swapped out the barrage

[stiff reef]

Also did you mean "wouldn't"?

I am new to Damnation so its all quite new to me

[strong gulch]

I did. Sorry. Typing is hard

[stiff reef]

You're good I figured 😄

To the bin the void goes

What are good builds to run purg with?

Currently doing vent + smite

[rough compass]

Tried Assail, I can see why people dislike psykers running it.

It's quite fun, although I can see how some would use it as a crutch.

On another note, I'm very much enjoying the power sword. Did you know the stabbing heavy attack will knock a crusher on their ass?

[strong gulch]

I'm not the purg person. I haven't been able to get it to feel good.

I swear there is a change to the way it staggers or enemies are staggered that can make it feel... more precarious to use now. Like you are more vulnerable.

[remote raptor]

does block efficiency affect kinetic deflection

[rough compass]

Quite amused to be the squishy wizard and yet able to suplex the tankiest non-boss enemy in the game

[stiff reef]

Yeah I've never gotten it to feel right either, but since I got a god roll of a purg staff...

[spice veldt]

ye

[light citrus]

EP vs DD for assail, Whice one is better

[spice veldt]

kinetic deflection is 4x your max stamina

[strong gulch]

It's fine. I used to use it a lot, but buffs here and changes there make it feel wrong in my hands now. 🙃

It = purg staff

[glossy ember]

level 30

[stiff reef]

Just loving Surge staff

[glossy ember]

dropped this on my last mission, isn't it pretty good

[hot inlet]

How is voidstaff after the nerfs? Can you still oneshot crushers?

[strong gulch]

Yeah.

Min max wise you want finesse higher, but yes.

[glossy ember]

What should I replace stamina with? I see the pin guide doesn't recommend flak though

but I don't think i'll replace flak

[weary idol]

my MK VII headhunter is like 5% damage short of one shotting dreg gunners without a crit

[weary idol]

goddamnit

[glossy ember]

probably maniac then

[glossy ember]

what the fuck, h2 one shots muties??

oh nvm

i have 6 warp charges

[strong gulch]

Stam to maniac. for those sweet heavy 2s.

Blessing wise, change 1 to uncanny strikes. Keep unstable if you can keep peril up.

Also yes. It's easier to get the heavy 2 one shot on mutants now

[glossy ember]

hmm alright thanks

gonna have to wait to change blessings though since i have none

0 warp charges that thing does 3386 damage to muties lmao

[robust sierra]

what blessings and perks should I put on a void staff?

[dark radish]

Which one is better

[strong gulch]

I can never remember the perks. Maybe carapace.

Blessing wise Surge + nexus or Surge +flurry (woth true aim from talent tree) for DPS

[glossy ember]

after playing some more with bottom middle tree i realized I actually don't make the most of it, switched to bottom left, thoughts?

wondering if I should swap the +5% toughness resistance to -5% peril generation

[strong gulch]

1 one. Charge rate important

[strong gulch]

Grab PC

[stiff reef]

If you dont find yourself using your Blitz, empowered psionics (outside of Surge bug) isnt really useful, so that looks good to me

[glossy ember]

any reason why

it looks kinda lackluster on its own

[stiff reef]

Soulblaze is value town

Free damage

[glossy ember]

yeah i use my blitz but like, only for bosses or (super) far targets

[stiff reef]

Then for sure take warp charge

[glossy ember]

haven't gotten the hang of using it mid close combat

on big targets yet

[stiff reef]

Brain Burst is so specific it barely uses EP well

At least in my hands

[strong gulch]

It stacks. It's free damage. It can get you to break points. It does a lot.

[glossy ember]

huh

[stiff reef]

I get a lot of specials killed off screen with soulblaze

[glossy ember]

i didn't see it trigger often when i ran it hence why i took it off

imma try it again

[stiff reef]

then again if you dont run wildfire it might not be as valuable

[glossy ember]

unsure what to take out though

battle meditation?

[strong gulch]

To be fair, on lower difficulty where you don't have as many elites and specials , it can see your reasoning.

[stiff reef]

If you can get this too you are rolling

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't run that

[glossy ember]

been playing regular damnation

[glossy ember]

hm

[stiff reef]

its a playstyle thing though, if you are doing fine without it dont change your setup

[strong gulch]

Basttle meditation or kinetic flayer

[glossy ember]

i wouldn't have enough points for that

[strong gulch]

Oh cool beans

[glossy ember]

i'll get to auric when i have better gear

[stiff reef]

I have never touched auric yet

(im kinda scared to ask about what it is, even)

[glossy ember]

because i have a feeling i can't jump in pants down like i can as ogryn

[stiff reef]

I started Damnation yesterday after getting all my classes to 30 for context

[glossy ember]

kinetic flayer's pretty nice...

ok i'll remove uh

battle meditation

and see that soulbalze thing

[strong gulch]

I don't play auric. I'm too casual and sweaty gaming makes my rosacea pissed.

[glossy ember]

like so

[stiff reef]

What's Auric even do? Just add more mechanics?

[glossy ember]

i still don't know if I want -5% peril regeneration over +5% toughness damage reduction

[stiff reef]

peril regen

peril gen*

Imo at least

Damnation your toughness just melts after one hit anyway

[plucky flax]

Always high intensity at the minimum. Usually more specials. Maelstrom is where memes are made.

[glossy ember]

figured warp charges would be enough to reach breakpoints

[stiff reef]

I will wait until I have better gear

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

guess not

but it's not like i noticed battle meditation anyway

[stiff reef]

Gonna try shield in damnation wish me luck

[glossy ember]

so

[stiff reef]

I am used to Venting my Peril

[plucky flax]

It's also very dependant on teammates. 2 good players can get out of most tough situations.

But often I get 3 sus teammates.

[stiff reef]

entire team is babies

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-heavy-gif-21772094

[glossy ember]

just get one big ogryn

problems solved

[strong gulch]

On perilous combustion. It is now 3 stacks, but still good.
#psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

[near wyvern]

NOT UP TO DATE YET

[glossy ember]

oh,

[cyan notch]

NOTED!

[near wyvern]

Altho the only change of Deimos is Unstable Power will swap placed with Slaughterer

Read the README people!

[glossy ember]

check pins
didn't read the pin of the pins

pinception

[stiff reef]

The Pins have Eyes

[clear heath]

How many of you guys run ordo dockets on your curios?

[glossy ember]

sounds good

[strong gulch]

Yes. Some yes. Always good to check in the meat grinder.

But you can manage mixed hordes with PC too.

[clear heath]

Thinking of switching ordo dockets to something actually useful

but i'm also poor

hard decisions

[glossy ember]

fair, PC looks way more consistant than battle meditation anyway

[strong gulch]

Most damage is mk 4

Yee

[glossy ember]

im running health, toughness generation and|| block efficiency || on my curios now

it's nice

oh yeah another question

[strong gulch]

If you're looking to use it specifically for hordes, illisi would be an easier option.

But, on some of my builds, Mk 4 is my horde management.

[glossy ember]

should be fine yeah? read that the deimos was good for crowd clearing too

[strong gulch]

Idk about good. It's a single target sword that can manage a horde. Illisi can horde clear.

Mk4 and deimos can manage them.

[glossy ember]

hm aight imma give this a shot in damnation then

was running a catachan sword, i'll miss the parry

[remote raptor]

warp nexus lvl4 or lvl 4 maniac

ight

[strong gulch]

The quell speed is fine.

[remote raptor]

been trying to roll one for a while it doesnt hurt me too bad tbh

[strong gulch]

Dump stat as long as it's over 50

[summer prairie]

by the way, Mettle gives toughness per target hit, so e.g. one trauma crit that hits 20 targets gives 100% toughness back

[grim zodiac]

what does specialist mean?

[sterile vale]

Bombers, Flamers, Mutants, Snipers, Hounds and Trappers

[quasi junco]

just played with a psyker dressed as a pirate who had a laspistol, smite, and a dueling sword

seemed fun as hell

[plucky flax]

But is it as fun as assail revolver?

[gilded marten]

infinite smite no longer works yes?

[plucky flax]

No they removed our unlimited power.

[gilded marten]

oh zamn disappointed

i was eager to try it out but nvm

[slate oasis]

the unlimited power was absorbed by the surge staff

[potent echo]

Still need to get around to laspistol psyker

[strong gulch]

Assail revolver on a regular T5.

[glossy ember]

ok yeah PC is a lot more noticeable than the other one

i also ended up switching to -5% peril generation instead of toughness damage reduction

lets me get one more BB/surge charge attack

[strong gulch]

👍

If you can get it. +5% ranged damage is pretty nice too. It effects even your BB.

[glossy ember]

hm... n,ot sure how to fit it

lemme see

i'd have to remove 2 points to reach it, I can't.

[strong gulch]

If your build is working and you don't have the points to spare, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[glossy ember]

or i'd have to give up One With The Warp and 5% peril resist

[strong gulch]

But let say you have a sliver left on high value targets, that +5% percent is NOICE

[glossy ember]

this is my current tree

i'd have to give up kinetic flayer

since that'd be the lowest dps option... i think

did anyone maths out kinetic flayer's contribution by the way

[strong gulch]

Since you'e invested in WS with WC damage, that +5% ranged damage likey isn't needed.

[glossy ember]

yeah it's nice

hm, i COULD get rid of kinetic deflection...

but that's big defensive loss

not sure i'm ready for that yet

[strong gulch]

It's fun when it goes off and worth it if you have spare points.

Otherwise it's not worth it.

[glossy ember]

aighty

but yeah potentially, i could use this

[strong gulch]

I will always use kinetic deflection. I don't know how to live without it.

[glossy ember]

kinetic deflection is nice too because you generate peril while meleeing so you get to use warp rider

[strong gulch]

without KD: I can't tank a whole horde to revive someone?? visibly shocked

[glossy ember]

yeah

i think i'm fine damage wise

well

the scoreboards aren't kind on me but

that's probably skill issue

rather than build issue

[strong gulch]

There's different ways to play that the scoreboard doesn't score or doesn't score favorably.

It's not the end all be all.

Also, I usually to have that much damage because I run around and am easily distracted.

[glossy ember]

maybe if I used a 3 stam curio with blocking efficiency on all my curios... hm...

[strong gulch]

I end up enabling other to do more damage like opening bulwarks or staggering things.

Revolver assail is all damage.

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't wanna play that so

i'll suck it up sinec i enjoy the shield gameplay

[strong gulch]

Grab a force sword + venting shriek then you can also quell and just tank a DH. 😌

[glossy ember]

how helpful is this

[tired jackal]

can confirm @spice veldt is indeed not a pleb

[glossy ember]

considering i'm running shield ult

[vestal fulcrum]

Quite helpful if your build supports crits in a reasonable manner

[spice veldt]

can confirm @tired jackal is indeed not a pleb

[glossy ember]

i do have 78% finesse on my surge staff

translates to 20% crit

not sure how good that is

oh and the uh

crit blessing

[vestal fulcrum]

It's basically a Ghost blessing that's not tied to a weapon

[glossy ember]

[vestal fulcrum]

If so, you will sometimes dodge ranged fire if it procs after you hit something with a crit

[glossy ember]

Might actually give this a shot, unironically.

that sounds pretty nice for hordes

with rangeds, assuming i can't shield for w/e reason

[strong gulch]

I use it. That doesn't mean it's good tho.

[potent echo]

on a purgatus? invaluable

[glossy ember]

what's purgatus

flame staff?

[strong gulch]

yee

[potent echo]

yea

[glossy ember]

oh yea im not using that

not a big fan

[potent echo]

either that or laspistol

pewpew

[glossy ember]

not all that hot on other weapons?

got a catachan mkiv and a deimos mkiv, both with shred blessings

[strong gulch]

surge staff crits a lot but also some melee has good crit chance

[near wyvern]

Combat Blade + Columnus is the most fun you can have as a psyker, change my mind

[strong gulch]

Don't forget to put your cape on.

[potent echo]

crit evasion isnt that worth it on melees, too unreliable

[near wyvern]

Not if you spec on it.

Shred + Illisi for example

But it's more of a nice bonus

Melee psyker doesn't really exist at the moment, melee should never be your most used weapon

As a Psyker

[lean frigate]

Searching for an answer gives me all mixed results.

Can smite crit?

[near wyvern]

There are moments when you absolutely do pull it out, but you shouldn't main it

[near wyvern]

Nope

Surge staff can

[glossy ember]

yeah i only really melee when overwhelmed by a horde

or i can't quell peril in peace

[lean frigate]

Thanks.

[dark radish]

Is Wildfire and Perilous Combustion worth taking? Or I better take Toughness node instead?

[still hearth]

Wildfire, not ery.

Perilous, every time.

[strong gulch]

PC is great.

Wildfire is meme

[still hearth]

Wildfire is basically only to get soulblaze chance for warp charges.

[strong gulch]

Or hope a bomber dies in the staging closet.

[whole acorn]

https://i.imgur.com/UMmKPx0.png what should i craft on this

[strong gulch]

It can happen again I swear.

[potent echo]

kinetic presence aura only 5% on elites right? the description is wrong

[karmic sparrow]

What blessing should i put on Illisi other than slaughterer?

[strong gulch]

Precog to uncanny.

The perks are good, but you have to to change elites to something.

could be caracpace / unyeilding / crit chance. If you are close to one shotting mutants, it might be worth it to pick specials.

[strong gulch]

Uncanny strikes

[restive tapir]

can surge staff deal weakspot hits?

[strong gulch]

Lmb can

[vital flint]

Did they change attack patterns on deimos?

Idk if I'm schizo

But I recall double stabbing

Like heavy stab into light stab

Ok, nevermind

I'm just dumb lol

[potent echo]

its light into heavy stab

you cant get heavy into light unless you cancel

[glossy ember]

alright so I have a question

let's say a boss spawns, and I have 4~6 warp charges

Should I waste them to triggerkinetic resonance, or is just BBing more dps?

[potent echo]

hopefully neither

poke its head with a melee generally does more damage

[whole oxide]

or just machine-gun staff LMB

[glossy ember]

oh, thought bb spam was good for boss

nvm then

[glossy ember]

that's unironically more damage?

[whole oxide]

i've not actually tested it, but since update, I'd imagine its competitive

[glossy ember]

alright

thanks lads

[plucky flax]

No wildfire

[glossy ember]

well it's fine

i mean

i could fit it in...

by removing kinetic resonance

[bold flint]

the absolute quality of heresy games

[glossy ember]

i'll be honest, not sure it's the greatest idea i've had

[plucky flax]

I would run bb without any sub talent too.

[glossy ember]

hm

I guess it's not like i'll BB every time I pop a shield

it does come handy though at times

is wildfire that good

[plucky flax]

Look I casted the spell and enemies keep burning forever until they're all dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVUUzH_CZiY

[whole oxide]

you've asked that question to the one person you should never ask that question

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

[plucky flax]

No it's bad pls remove it from your build.

[whole oxide]

wildfire's good on a blazing-spirit or creeping-flames build, but otherwise meh

[plucky flax]

Oh what staff are you using cos you're not using creeping flame?

[glossy ember]

surge

i like the zapping

[plucky flax]

So you are relying on combustion only.

You can safely remove wildfire.

[whole oxide]

screenshotted

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

[plucky flax]

I am very sad I can't run wildfire with assail.

Pls fix the tree.

[glossy ember]

tbh i feel like battle meditation wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for it being only 10% chance

but in all the runs i did so far I actually didn't notice it

[plucky flax]

You know what I would do?

[paper loom]

if you rebless an item with lvl 3 can you then change it to lvl 4 bless for example dum dum if you find it?

[plucky flax]

Remove that talent to the below right of the aura.

[glossy ember]

which one

[plucky flax]

Then you have 2 spare points, take the 2 crits talents on the right at the beginning of the tree.

The dodge one.

[glossy ember]

hm...

i went for that talent for the +5% ranged damage

but maybe the crit stacking is better

[plucky flax]

With 2 points you can get to perfect timing.

[glossy ember]

like so then?

[plucky flax]

Surge staff crit a lot so it'll increase a lot of damage.

[glossy ember]

oh yeah wtf those stacks last for 10s

huge

idk why i thought they lasted for 5s

oh, stacks five times, tht's why

looking good, thanks lad

[plucky flax]

Aye play, experiment and adjust to your liking. We all have different playstyles so some stuff might be more valuable player-dependant.

Like I run loner aura on zealot and people on discord just won't understand.

[glossy ember]

don't worry, i understand

i run a whack, all damage talents ogryn build

[glossy ember]

tbh as long as I have BB, shield and warp charges

i think im good

don't really like smite or assail

and i like bubble a lot

[plucky flax]

Aye it's very good skill. Sometimes the psyker in my game seems to forgot they run bubble though. Barely see it during the game. Xd

Saving it for next round I guess.

[glossy ember]

||(it's because i don't wanna spend my warp charges)||

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

just kidding, i spam the shit outta it

it's so easy to get warp charges now

unlike pre rework, iirc

having to BB every single poxwalker

hm

[glossy ember]

kinetic resonance or kinetic deflection...

i'll try resonance for now

[whole oxide]

personally I'd drop one of the toughness-regen traits at the top, and take both

[still hearth]

Resonance?

Ahh.

[glossy ember]

hmmmm

[glossy ember]

I have the feeling Quietude is probably better than soul stealer if paired with kinetic deflection

since you'd gain peril, so you'd quell it too

rather than on warp attack kill, which wouldn't include my melee weapons in a pinch

ok i'll give that a shot.

final version lads

thanks for the help

[gilded marten]

what's the difference between empowered psionic and warp siphon?

[whole oxide]

WS gives a general damage-boost and shorter cooldown on Ult, EP is better for spamming blitz/grenade

[gilded marten]

alright

[still hearth]

Warp Charges has this fun mini game of wanting to have 6 warp charges but also using your ult often to make use of the low CD

Which some people hate and I actually like

[glossy ember]

which one would you guys pair with surge staff? just wondering . I have a feeling the catachan blade is better to make up for the sruge staff weaknesses but the force sword can handle itself fine too

[hearty spade]

why not ilisi

[glossy ember]

i don't have one

no plasteel

[hearty spade]

ah snap i use it with surge and void, the horde clear is really nice

[glossy ember]

have yet to see one in shop either so

can't even try out a blue

[plucky flax]

Ooh yeah illsi + surge is my combo of choice.

[hearty spade]

why not buy it directly in a shop

[ornate hamlet]

What do i do if theres a big red bulbous sore that keeps popping out of a hole in the side of my head?

[hearty spade]

brunt's armory

[ornate hamlet]

do i stick it shut with glue?

[plucky flax]

Cut it off then eat it for gains.

[glossy ember]

i need 90k ordo dockets to spend on fashion first

my psyker missing cool pants

[quasi junco]

best dueling sword for ragers?

[potent echo]

4, but any really just press the funny button

[strong gulch]

Cool pants important

[dark stag]

If I wanted to try out brain burst, could I still run surge with it? I feel like surge kinda makes brain burst obsolete for most enemies except a few tankier ones but maybe it's ok to run together?

[strong gulch]

Dueling sword special to the head will stop ragers. It even stops mutants and crushers.

[quasi junco]

mk5 has the defense attribute, I might take that one

making a pirate build. dueling sword, laspistol and smite

[strong gulch]

Go for it. BB is something you would use all of the time anyways.

Get that fecking sniper and monsters.

[bold flint]

if you do that then youll have to rely on your melee for horde clear

[quasi junco]

only issue wit this build is no carapace damage at all lol

[strong gulch]

Illisi good for hordes

Also creeping flames

[spice veldt]

prob just run the mk4 if you need some more anti-carapacd

[dark stag]

this is what I use for now, i wish I could have replaced the other blessing with slaughter but I don't have the blessing

[quasi junco]

whats everyones fav setup on a dueling sword? damage to maniacs? Riposte ?

[dark stag]

But I'll guess I try that, if not I'll see how viable the flamethrower staff is, cuz it looks cool to use

[tender pagoda]

Unarmored to Flak or change blessing?

[dark stag]

is this ok for a brain burst build?

[whole oxide]

with which weapons?

[plucky flax]

Both your weapons have high crit chance in your current set up so I would try to take perfect timing.

[dark stag]

I'm not sure what to sacrifice for it

Is kinetic flayer actually worth it?

[unique mist]

Its so good for rezzes and monstrosities

auric malestrom has plenty of both

[plucky flax]

If I was in your shoes I'd remove flayer and the dodge on crit (below right of the aura)

[dark stag]

so like this?

[unique mist]

Warp charges being so expensive is bullshit

[potent echo]

remove wildfire

[plucky flax]

Aye something like that.

[dark stag]

Wildfire bad?

[potent echo]

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Not with this build

[unique mist]

remove wildfire and put on the faster bb charge speed on ability use

[potent echo]

He doesn't even have the funky burning sword

[plucky flax]

He's using a lot of creeping flame though.

[unique mist]

Its a meme anyway

[plucky flax]

So a lot of burning.

[potent echo]

Not warpcharges with soulblaze

[plucky flax]

Wildfire = good for soulblaze build.

[potent echo]

Yea his build has like no soulblaze other than F

[unique mist]

is the tiny benefit wildfire gives worth not having +75% charge speed on ability use

Given they are taking all ability regen perks

[potent echo]

And anything that he Fs dies anyway so the fire spreads like nowhere

[plucky flax]

But he's running warp charges with creeping flame.

The up time on f spam is crazy with warp charges.

[dark stag]

I mean if you guys got a different bb build please share I just wanna try it out xd

[potent echo]

He's warp charges is on kills

Not the burn

[plucky flax]

Yeah I prefer that too.

I always take the 4% on kill on my soulblaze builds.

[dark stag]

Well the 10% on soulblaze I'm not sure how it works, do I have to kill the soublazed enemies or can my allies kill them and I still get the charge?

[unique mist]

Your kills

[dark stag]

Then personally I feel like the 4% is better

[unique mist]

Yeah it is

[dark stag]

idk what the meta for bb is tho is again, if you guys got something else do share

[still hearth]

Anything soulblazed gives 10% chance

If they die

If it's your soulblaze at least. Idk how it works with several people blazing, it defeinitely feels less reliable

[dark stag]

ah so it doesn't matter if I kill them?

As long as they are soulblazed?

[still hearth]

At least that's the latest I heard from people who tend to test things.

[plucky flax]

This mah blaze trauma build.

[still hearth]

Blaze Trauma

Without Soulstealer u crazy

[potent echo]

Crazy indeed

[dark stag]

(also what is the "funky fire sword"?)

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1%.

[potent echo]

But the games too easy y'know needs some challenge

[unique mist]

You need to kill them

[potent echo]

Being good doesn't mean your build is good though

[still hearth]

@summer prairie you know if soulblaze 10% warp charge works on allies killing them right?

[dim parrot]

no battery?

[unique mist]

Nah

[summer prairie]

it does, not sure if it always works but definitely frequently at least

[still hearth]

[glossy ember]

okey boys gonna try out the build

wish me luck

[unique mist]

No way it works on ally kills

[plucky flax]

Build is also subjective. I run loner aura on zealot and win every game.

[still hearth]

Why not

[glossy ember]

oh shit new psyker ogryn class

[unique mist]

holy shit the 21st primarch

[slate sun]

Does anyone know by chance how much did they nerf Voidstrike? I can't find any specific numbers anywhere

[dark stag]

What is the funky burning sword btw xd?

[potent echo]

Oh I forgot to answer

[unique mist]

Blaze force sword with burning soul or spirit or wtv

[potent echo]

Blazing spirit on force sword

Burns on crit

I don't recommend it

[dark stag]

ah

[unique mist]

soulblaze on crit technically

[potent echo]

Yea

[dark stag]

It sounds fun but I assume it isn't very practical

[clear heath]

man creeping flames is so good
all my soulblaze is from talents and it's 30% of my damage

[summer prairie]

yeah I've been running it a few times since that scoreboard version and it's been around 30%

[unique mist]

Failed an auric maelstrom with high int stg scab only nurgle blessing monstrous specials earlier today, I blame the guy who brought a trauma staff

[plucky flax]

Why single the trauma user out?

[clear heath]

he's traumatized

[unique mist]

just meming

I personally don't like trauma staff at all

Hate using it

[clear heath]

it feels really jank aiming it

[plucky flax]

You need da flick.

[unique mist]

Fires so slow it feels like

[clear heath]

i'm honestly just bad at using it

[unique mist]

and doesn't seem to do anything better than voidstrike, aside from "hitting an infinite number of crushers with full damage at once"

[potent echo]

Isit because my FOV is maxed? I don't feel any issue aiming it

[unique mist]

Also I don't think it was that effective especially against monstrous specials

[plucky flax]

[dark stag]

Does charging the brain burst with right click do anything other then let me hold it?

[plucky flax]

It goes up slower than left click.

[dark stag]

yay xd

[potent echo]

Yea it used to cost more peril for absolutely no reason

[whole oxide]

only use for BB RMB is if you really want to BB something but your team is killing everything too fast to use LMB

[potent echo]

I mainly use it in lifts so I can burst one thing as we arrive

[dark stag]

But it's not like smite wherer the left click is bad and you should always rmb?

[potent echo]

You don't even need to do that now because warpcharges aren't tied to bb

[glossy ember]

came to report back that teh build you guys helped make is nutty

[potent echo]

Lmb is for panik

[whole oxide]

well indeed ^^ it's literally just a "can I join in?" button

[glossy ember]

didn't realize how much damn crit I had, i almost always have uptime on the buffs

melee or surge

[potent echo]

Free 15% damage always

Good stuff

[glossy ember]

yeah it's crazy

plus the extra mobility and toughness regen because why not

very happy

[dark stag]

just to confirm, BB has infinite range and once I lock onto a target I can go anywhere and it will still pop?

[potent echo]

Yea

[dark stag]

alr

[potent echo]

The lockon doesn't go through some fences/grates though

Jank

[dark stag]

(I've felt that with psyker and it makes me want to hit 100% peril)

(on surge I mean)

[glossy ember]

just put your wand through the wall

[strong gulch]

Yours or ally kills on enemies affected by soublaze for In Fire Reborn to proc.

#psyker-class message

Y'all remember when buff women were posting vids of them crushing melons with their thighs were making the rounds on socials??

That's what hadron does to gear.

[plucky flax]

That's the pop claw special.

[full egret]

Disrupt destiny speed on kill should last longer

[glossy ember]

ayo...

[whole oxide]

it should just be a feature of the DD stacks, +0.5% movespeed per stack or w/e

[strong gulch]

Rude af chaos spawn tossed me into the void.

[primal aurora]

It is four psykers in a trenchcoat

[summer prairie]

Melee maelstorm with blaze trauma with shriek

[orchid shadow]

How are you getting the damage breakdown?

[glossy ember]

psyker but very thicc

[summer prairie]

there's a new scoreboard mod/addon

[orchid shadow]

Ooh

[glossy ember]

ok after testing out bot the mkiv catachan and the mkiv force sword i'm gonna keep using the catachan

until i get to test out the illisi

but catachan feels fantastic

[novel mauve]

I despise cliffhanger

[stiff reef]

same cant do it

[whole oxide]

i got it by accident by knocking stuff through the floor with trauma

[novel mauve]

Even with the amount of enemies required to complete it reduced its such a pain simply because hardly any ledges are in a position to give you a proper angle for it

[woeful island]

k guys could help me

im stupid or game go boinks

i had names on my 4 chars

now they become all random

[stiff reef]

I've tried sitting on a ledge and using shriek, didnt work. Tried spamming push with force sword at melter, cant

[woeful island]

@stiff reef im doing same 😄

[novel mauve]

Illisi is very very very very simple to use, both light and heavy attacks are wide swings, absurd horde clear and the force push by simply being spammed keeps everything off you.

[novel mauve]

Probably a bug

[orchid shadow]

What map are you doing it on? Vigil station ending or Oubliette 1st floor before the stairs to the first defense point are good spots.

[vital flint]

Is there another good waveclear psyker melee besides illisi?

I guess axes will work

[novel mauve]

Tried chasm logistratum on the stupidly skinny bridge at the start.

[vital flint]

(Here's hoping for a two handed force sword btw)

[stiff reef]

Same, the hordes barely gathered at me and they just fell down instead of off the cliff

[glossy ember]

can't wait to check it out, hopefully after this run

[past locust]

That's an ok spot, but there are better

My go-to would be hab dreyko at the escape part. There's a drop-down after the bit where the bridges get blown up, but right next to it before dropping there's a spawn point right by a ledge (one of the sphincter looking doors iirc).

[orchid shadow]

I found that one to be a pain. =/ Try Oubliette assassination. You can wait around a pillar to bunch up a horde and just dodge out to the side and shout them off.

[novel mauve]

I'll try that after this attempt

[novel mauve]

I will also try this lol

Got nothing better to do currently

[plucky flax]

Seems decent build.

[quasi junco]

wtf just bought aquillas and went back to the game had an infinite loading symbol

[past locust]

I think I got mine on the logistratum bridge, though maybe not in that level specifically (it features in several levels). Definitely needs a big horde to spawn to be viable though, whereas in dreyko you've got an infinite one there by default

[quasi junco]

i want that pirate hat for my Pyker, yes you read that right, Pyker, not a psyker

[orchid shadow]

Ooh Hab Dreyko, didn't think about that one. That's a good one too.

It just takes forever to get to

[hollow spindle]

Holy moly

[plucky flax]

RIP charge rate man

[hollow spindle]

yeah

[past locust]

Most people tend to either forget or hate dreyko for some reason, so that's understandable haha

And yeah, definitely takes a while to get there, but I'd say getting the penance there is effectively garuanteed so it balances out

[plucky flax]

The blaze trauma stick

[past locust]

The one I've needed since release is malleus monstronum, but I've just not taken the time to get a group together and do it lol

[glossy ember]

are illisi combos H1 > L2 and special > h1?

[plucky flax]

I light spam with special mixed in.

If i don't have time I do special light. But generally try to do special heavy.

[glossy ember]

damn this weapon is pretty cool

[stiff reef]

tried Oubliette, didnt work

[novel mauve]

I think its mostly because hab dreyko hardly ever enters rotation

[stiff reef]

team just moved on and when I gathered about 7 enemies they didnt die from getting knocked down

[glossy ember]

no money to buy more

[stiff reef]

can I just get someone to do the penance with me? I'm never getting it

People ignore messages and just kill/move on

[past locust]

Most people I see seem to hate it with some real vitriol. Probably because the finale can be nasty if your team is dumb, which is most of the time

[plucky flax]

Whatchu need haru?

[stiff reef]

Cliffhanger

I've tried going for it on 3 different maps

Just isnt happening

[past locust]

You can try LFG, but I'd be down if we could also do malleus monstronum at some point too

[plucky flax]

Okay we can queue up a hab dreyko and then we'll just wait for horde.

[stiff reef]

People either a) dont care and just move on or b) I cant push anything off shit

[plucky flax]

In a private match, so no one will join.

[stiff reef]

Does private count?

[past locust]

Should do

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[stiff reef]

Would be a big help

[plucky flax]

No worries mate.

[past locust]

A lot of those redacted penances require being in a private lobby no

[stiff reef]

I've done most of the hard penances except that one i stg

[past locust]

*now

[plucky flax]

What's your fs id?

[stiff reef]

Good question

How do I find that

[plucky flax]

In the social menu.

Then press e.

[stiff reef]

Ahh

5312898207

[atomic plover]

does special power sword attack count as warp attack `?

[strong gulch]

yes

[atomic plover]

ty :3

[strong gulch]

AI director is being spicy.

It's like it knows I'm playing sloppy today.

[plucky flax]

This is when you bring your strongest build.

(Assail revolver)

[strong gulch]

What how the feck did I get most damage? I had BB and was looking at the ground a lot. This thing is telling fibs.

[primal aurora]

Imperial stormtrooper veterans teammates

[strong gulch]

Good point

[lime creek]

is the assail build still the same with the voidstrike staff and force sword?

[primal aurora]

Is assail still good now?

[dark stag]

I haven't tried it yet but does auric have more hp then damnation and what does it reward?

[plucky flax]

Yus.

Oh auric is same as damnation.

[strong gulch]

Just looking through scoreboards. What the feck is this?? 😂

[lime creek]

so rn is assail as good as BB?

[whole oxide]

is the thing that everyone was complaining about last patch, and then got buffed this patch, still broken? yes.

[lime creek]

perfecto

[still hearth]

BB is bad so

Assail is definitely as good as BB

[novel mauve]

Assail is ok

You won't be clearing hordes as fast anymore but it's still helpful to have

[plucky flax]

Assail is mid (pls don't nerf)

[novel mauve]

Although if you want a human sized specials deleted bb still reigns imo

[orchid shadow]

I'm seeing waaaay more smite and BB users than Assail in the past 30 games.

[novel mauve]

Really the only way bb shines is with empowered psionics

[plucky flax]

Tru assail definitely dropped in popularity.

[novel mauve]

Because man can you just delete several specials real quick with it

[lime creek]

for voidstrike force staff, was thinking of using warp nexus and surge blessing. cus assail crit build so wouldn't that be good? or hsould I just stick with warp nexus and warp flurry

[silent coral]

only cuase all the psykers are abusing the surge bug

[full egret]

Ohh, better idea yeah

Maybe 1% movespeed though

that would really help chaining kills

the other issue is it causes you to be so aggressive

but you sacrifice tankiness in this build

[plucky flax]

Tru too.

[normal matrix]

I am debating hard if i want to scuttle my psyker and make a Loner instead of Seer

The "four-shortened lifespans" bit i feel is the tip of a comedic iceberg

But is it worth the levelgrind is the question

[full egret]

Fuuuuucking ogryn. Losing all my stacks because they stand directly in front of me and I can’t shoot past

[normal matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

Now you know the veteran pain

[full egret]

They seem to respect veterans more often

I think they expect a psyker to just shoot through them

[novel mauve]

You get hit in the back as ogryn by vet, you get green thingy yelling at you

You move to side

[glossy ember]

is tehre no way to rename a character btw

[plucky flax]

Nah it's just some dumb ogryn players.

[novel mauve]

Psyker hit you, you forget

[plucky flax]

A real one would move to the side.

[novel mauve]

I sometimes stand in the way on purpose

[plucky flax]

But some are thick af and just stand there blocking everything.

[full egret]

Happens in auric so it’s very annoying

They seem to be under the impression they need to stand in front of everyone to shoot

[novel mauve]

Love being a real caveman and just clearing out a room while the veteran tries to at the very least get one kill

[full egret]

When they’re the class that can stand behind and shoot

[glossy ember]

wait some staffs don't go through ogryns?

I never cared about my position with psykers as oggy

thought all staffs punched through

[novel mauve]

A lot of ogryn players tend to treat the class as a super heavy tank.
So they lean into the mindset of standing in front and face tanking

[normal matrix]

me when im either an Assail Psyker or Ogryn

[novel mauve]

Then you watch them panic as they get deleted

Its my civic duty as ogryn to block the tryhard veterans shots

So I can play the game and not stand there and watch a stamina melee build veteran run in circles six miles ahead of the group before he is ultimately cornered by an single crusher

[normal matrix]

I quite dislike the tryhard players who are always a solid mile away from the team

TEAM
GAME

[dark stag]

Mannn why does BB feel so mid

I feel like 80% surge stuff would do what I wanted BB to do but faster

[glossy ember]

should i keep sniper or gunner res

[normal matrix]

Use empowered psionics keystone, you can get faster bb with power charges moseto

[dark stag]

but arent the charges rng?

[normal matrix]

No, there is a node thats gives guaranteed on elite kill

And one that bumps the chance of an ON KILL charge gain to 12.5 from 7.5

[chrome dust]

Snipers are easier to dodge

[glossy ember]

alright

thanks

[chrome dust]

Np