psyker-class

[thin finch]

I dunno , I think it's multiplicatively , as far as I have heard people talk around it , it's seem to be the most used way to calculate damage in DT

[compact bluff]

im calculating it on nothing but feels (the worst possible metric) i might as well finally test it

[thin finch]

oh yeah, plasma gun infinite cleave * Iwonder how the vet feels about that

[still hearth]

Listen I can't do math

[marble heath]

Hey guys, just joined the server, was hoping there would be a channel for help with penances or something cause I be STRUGGLING 😭😅😂

[thin finch]

I've seen you do math here , in fact you did it a bit before , Iµ'm just using a calculus

[still hearth]

I just throw out random numbers

And sometimes they're right

[thin finch]

Yeah that's what math is

[still hearth]

Ah fuck

[thin finch]

Sorry Satania,you are now good at math

[thin finch]

Maybe latter aligator in a private match

[thin finch]

I'll be available in like 3 hours*

[still hearth]

Try the LFG channels

[marble heath]

Mostly struggling with not even close (which I think is bugged if I'm honest, cause I've killed multiple hounds that have pounced and nothing, and cliffhanger 😅)

[strong gulch]

The vox channels are for gathering a party if you're looking for a private party. #vox-lfg-lexicanum

Otherwise people generally have tips or suggestions for specific ones.

You can also search key words and see if your question has been answered.

[marble heath]

Thanks! I'll check it out!

[compact bluff]

i have now tested it and am now even more confused
i believe it is multiplicative, you are right, but how it calculates weakspot + crit is not 100% right on weapons because of how finesse is calculated and finesse modifiers and crit weakspots and its just a big damage mess

[thin finch]

each weapon also have their own shit to add in the pile yeah

[modest edge]

everybody likes surge and void but purg never getsenough love

[still hearth]

It's very simple

[still hearth]

Damage adds to base damage which adds to weakspot and crit damage

But weakspot and crit damage only adds to the extra damage you do on weakspot and crits

Which damage also increases

But since it only adds to the extra damage it still stacks in a way that ins't intuitive.

[still hearth]

Infested perk

You're 2% off max stacks for Soulblaze sadly

Otherwise that staff is sick

[compact bluff]

oh i am aware its just how finesse stuff is calculated that wrangles my brain

[still hearth]

And don't even get me started on how Finesse damage works

I literally

Don't know

[compact bluff]

exactly ;_;

[still hearth]

I know it adds to Weakspot and Crit damage normally

But idk how it works on weakspot crits

Because weakspot crits use a boost curve (whatever that is)

[terse rivet]

Psyker needs a new staff or some tuning on current staffs other than voidstrike

class is becoming stale for me

[still hearth]

Psyker needs new variants of the staves

[modest edge]

?

[still hearth]

Burn caps at 76% for 15 stacks on Purgatus.

Iirc.

[modest edge]

ahh i see

[still hearth]

It's not a big deal tbh

[modest edge]

im happy with it

[still hearth]

It only does like 20 DPS less on bosses

[terse rivet]

Does soulblaze from purgatus spread from the soulblaze talents?

[still hearth]

Wdym?

It is soulblaze, yes.

[terse rivet]

so wildfire affects it

[still hearth]

Yeah (but wildfire sucks)

The way it spreads stacks is super borked

So the only reason to run it is to get the warp charges from things dying with soulblaze on them

[terse rivet]

so fuck wildfire goti t

[vestal fulcrum]

Realistically, is it worth a skill point?

[still hearth]

Pretty much

Ehh

I mean sometimes it will do a bit

But most of the time it will do nothing at all

Observe

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1xiHBUjZGXuAbH/d1337IjgCdTp?invite=cr-MSxJMHYsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder if one can trigger DH with it, with the borked apply-on-body-expiration

I swear I triggered DH a couple of times with it, while being occupied with something else entirely

[still hearth]

I run 0 ragdolls

So it never happens to me

Since it's actually based on your local ragdolls

[vestal fulcrum]

Uhhhhhhhh

Time to engage rag doll 🥔 mode

[still hearth]

I mean it's rarely an issue tbf

But the way that Wildfire spreads from corpses is ass anyway

[potent echo]

the most value it has is to prebake some enemies

[vestal fulcrum]

Yes, until you actually trigger a DH and spell doom for your team and engage a Dark Souls boss fight while you dodge all the attacks

I experienced that a couple of times

It’s… not great in public lobbies

[still hearth]

Just have a hammer Zealot 5head

[vestal fulcrum]

And largely a fun time in private lobbies

[vestal fulcrum]

My team hates Thammer with a passion

[twilit carbon]

how viable is scryer's gaze late game?

[spice oar]

Depends

[still hearth]

Scrier's gaze requires a very specific playstyle to be good

But getting damage for 14+s isn't bad

Assuming you have no peril generating stuff

[twilit carbon]

i prefer headhunter over staff so i should be fine on that end

what kind of playstyle are we talking?

[thin finch]

Scrier is clearly target toward not peril weapon user

[clear bear]

i combo it with assail and a revolver or the newly buffed columnus mk5. use assail until you cap on peril, swap to Gun Mode

not tried it on damnation yet though

[strong gulch]

With revolver's low ammo and long reload time, I don't like it scriers with it. Plus it takes me time to aim, so it works even less for me.

I do like it with laspistol or melee focused damage tho.

[thin finch]

headhunter works too

[twilit carbon]

apologies, i was thinking there was a specific build or blessings that were required to make this work

[clear bear]

i find revolver easier to aim at gunners or annoying specials than assail's sometimes finicky auto-aim, but i agree you'll be doing mostly melee if you bring it

[twilit carbon]

is Soulblaze a warp attack?

[strong gulch]

yes

[twilit carbon]

so Perilous Combustion triggers Soulstealer?

[strong gulch]

If something dies by that source, it should.

[twilit carbon]

and im guessing there's a blessing in the game that, when you crit, puts soulblaze on the target hit?

[strong gulch]

blazing spirit

[twilit carbon]

noted. ty kindly

[potent echo]

thats why you run surgical

and shield

[strong gulch]

Just tested in the meat grinder. Yes that is the case.

[strong gulch]

Yes. That's why I run surgical.

Though, I am opting out of shield for now.

Actually, idk what I'm talking about because I'm looking at my build and it has shield. 😂 🙃

[potent echo]

scrier is

needs reload speed also?

[thin finch]

yes

[strong gulch]

I thought bursters felt different with surge staff EP. They can blow up with a single charge.

[terse rivet]

Surge staff needs a peril generation reduction

even with all talents and full warp batteries the generation is insane

[strong gulch]

Yeah it has a lot. Inner tranquility is comfier peril management for sure.

But a single tap of quelling should get you low enough to charge back to back.

If you heck up or the command is fecked, you're toast.

Riding the perils like fire trauma.

[still hearth]

Surge staff gets like 10% peril per charge with full peril reduction

The issue to me is still that it has ass damage without the bug so the TTK is way too long

[plucky flax]

Only on super tanky stuff like crusher and bulwark.

It kills specials fast without bug.

[glad meadow]

is this good?

any perk i should change out?

[maiden cedar]

How do you increase smite's damage? It seems to do so little

[thin finch]

https://tenor.com/b0gIS.gif

[maiden cedar]

sadge

crystal things do the most yeh?

[tranquil raft]

Shards are great for unarmored enemies and will one shot em

If you wanna be a hard counter to half the enemies in the game Assail is the way to go

[glad meadow]

if shard do just like some suppression at all i would feel like an gunlugger orgyn just running around rapid firing them

with scry, it still decimate elites

just more dangerous

[glossy hazel]

I wonder when we'll finally get new staffs. The Sienna staffs are all there in VT2 for them to copy&paste over.

Warpfireball Staff when

[unique mist]

If you want damage smite you need to make use of empowered psionics and venting shriek w/soulblaze

build up high peril with surge staff, shriek an oncoming horde then smite them

running a surge/smite build in my first foray into auroc maelstrom and it is very good

even ignoring the surge staff EP bug

[still hearth]

The funny part here is

That the shriek

Will kill the horde on its own

So smite is barely helping

[unique mist]

kills it faster + crowd control + stops big enemies in its tracks

also also

[thin finch]

it keeps them here while they die

[unique mist]

Surge staff has been stunning a mutant mid attack for me

and I don't know if its the EP bug or not

Like I know surge staff can stop a charging mutant on a crit or something

But I've been able to stagger a mutant out of its attack animation after grabbing an ally, without killing it

And thats crazy to me

[glad meadow]

i think it cus it play the shock animation

that thing just override about everything

[hollow jolt]

I think Zealot relic can as well? I haven't really tested though

[late yew]

anyone else noticed how barely anyone plays psyker now after assail nerf lol

i am happy that all those posers are gone

[late yew]

I think it stuns them on crit

[late yew]

the relic can even stun monsters

except bon bon

also captain

[uneven compass]

I'm still noticing a decent amount of psykers in Auric Damnation yesterday, haven't seen assail ones tho

[hollow jolt]

Indeed very comfy

[hollow jolt]

I had an assail psyker in every game I did

[late yew]

shriek not worth it i think

[hollow jolt]

Unrelated, I play assail psyker UwU

[modern tusk]

I joined a game with 3 assail Psykers on auric maelstrom with the modified that causes hordes of crushers and maulers

[late yew]

btw BB is not bad now

i think

[modern tusk]

It did not go well

[late yew]

just gotta hold right click a lot

[hollow jolt]

Yeah I went into that my first time thinking it'd be ragers

So I got a purg staff

It was not ragers...

[late yew]

clear issue of lacking Void OR Trauma OR surge

which leaves a question

the fuck 3 psykers even had

[hollow jolt]

Recon lasguns UwU

[late yew]

because any of those weapons can deal with crushers and maulers easily

[modern tusk]

Two of them actually did

[uneven compass]

I actually like grouping with assail psykers tbh lol so I hope I see more. Feel like it's pairs well with my surge/smite build

[modern tusk]

Have recons

[late yew]

Also Deimos and Dueling sword

[modern tusk]

They all had knifes

[late yew]

Surge and smite was my go to build even before that patch

now i can enjoy its being ev en more op for some time lmao

[modern tusk]

They're gonna patch the surge in the next 5 days

Calling it

[hollow jolt]

I love when people throw in Auric missions 🙏

[late yew]

no

they never fix things this fast

Knife on psyker

wat

what the actual fuck

[hollow jolt]

To nerf Psyker? They'll make an exception

[modern tusk]

So 3 assail Psykers with knifes and none were using staffs

[late yew]

oh shut it

[modern tusk]

Against carapace

[hollow jolt]

UwU

[late yew]

psyker been in good place since first buffs

Initially second only after vet

[uneven compass]

Same lol. Hope they adjust surge damage to like in between what it was and it's current bugged state, needs a smidge more help once they patch it

[late yew]

And right now still very strong

[hollow jolt]

It only took months upon months UwU

[modern tusk]

Say uwu one more time and I'm getting the book of grudges

[late yew]

I starter playing the game and maining psyker right away

and then literally 1 week after psyker got buffed

[hollow jolt]

Psykers are naturally attained to the Uwurp

[late yew]

Still i can say "was psyker main before it was cool"

[modern tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/dammaz-kron-dwarf-gif-27703552

[hollow jolt]

Need more Dwarfs in my life

[modern tusk]

Psyker since launch club

[hollow jolt]

DRG update when?

[modern tusk]

Chaos Dwarfs my beloved

[uneven compass]

I was originally an ogryn main but the mk3 cleaver being so good with m1 spam was giving me carpal tunnel so I swapped to Psyker which I love far more

[hollow jolt]

My brother plays psyker -> picked up a purg staff -> never dropped it

[long wharf]

Psyker since open beta club

[modern tusk]

I couldn't play the beta because my cooling tube burst and killed my PC 😭

[uneven compass]

Y'all try out the new smite dmg with EP? It's surprisingly noticable damage

[modern tusk]

Yeah it two shots crushers

It's wacky

[uneven compass]

Nah smite not surge tho ya 2 shotting them now is hilarious lol

[modern tusk]

I'm vibing with a 72%+ surg staff in all categories - ooooh yeah smite is great now

It kills enemies instead of your fps

[zinc phoenix]

That’d be scarier if dwarfs could reach it

[unborn flicker]

Not in auric

[zinc phoenix]

“Get me the step stool! The heavy step stool!”

[unborn flicker]

😡

[modern tusk]

We got a bretonnian in chat 🤢

[uneven compass]

I'm stuck between getting the 3 stack EP or the 30% quell speed for surge/smite build. I have no idea what other nodes I can lose to get both of them

[modern tusk]

🤓

[zinc phoenix]

And a people whose primary food group is beer? My god the smell in their warrens must be unholy

Beer and mushrooms

[unborn flicker]

Even with 30% peril quell it still takes a while

[modern tusk]

Joke flew right over the man

Wooosh

[unborn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/drax-the-destroyer-dave-bautista-metaphor-guardians-of-the-galaxy-over-my-head-gif-3613490

[hollow jolt]

+3 peril capacity curios when UwU

[unborn flicker]

Don’t tease me like that 😓

[hollow jolt]

Such is life 😔

[exotic tulip]

Is blast radius a dump stat on voidstrike now?

[long wharf]

Yes

Always has been

[exotic tulip]

No tier 4 blessings unlocked yet, what to do with these two

Don't ask me why unyielding is on the left one, I don't remember putting it there

[long wharf]

I like warp nexus + surge for void staff

[shut crypt]

found a bug with the surge staff. it gains the 125% damage buff from empowered psionics

kinda broken rn

[strong gulch]

Yup. It's why more people are playing surge.

[hollow jolt]

Its funny seeing a psyker walk to rager hordes and instant melt them

[wary inlet]

I was playing Surge for the gibbing

[strong gulch]

The biggest buff. GIB

[wary inlet]

was my favourite patch note

[untold niche]

is brain rupture still bad?
last time i tried psyker was in beta

i see many people running assail or smite, dont see anyone running rupture

[royal granite]

it's passable

you can run it in aurics without being a detriment to your team

[untold niche]

i remember in beta, i tried psyker, took me like 5 seconds to kill one elite/special then i see people running up to it and killing it in 3 seconds.

that left a bad taste in my mouth

[wary inlet]

filthy rupture main here
it has been buffed kinda
it is now guaranteed to one shot all the specials except mutants who are 2 shots now
its weaker on elites cause they got buffed
the boss damage has been buffed as well and I guess its alright

[velvet spear]

psyker surge bois since day 1 represent, the gib was the real buff

[strong gulch]

yeee

[shell marsh]

Thoughts?

[strong gulch]

Not worth the melk coins.

[unborn flicker]

If that modifiers number doesn’t start with a least 37

Not worth investing in

[acoustic osprey]

I buy out melk every week while staring in eyes without blinking

[shell marsh]

What do you mean sorry

[shell marsh]

Ah kewl, sorry im new so knowing these things is nice cheers

[shell marsh]

OOoh ok that number

good to know

[unborn flicker]

380 is max you can get

The closer you can get to that number

The better

[shell marsh]

Ok kewl thoughts on this?

Just gathering some examples to better understand

[olive ember]

Trash it

76 burn is the breakpoint you need to meet

76+ burn and max cloud radius

[shell marsh]

Hmmm ok good to know

sorry for all the q's

[strong gulch]

I mean it's not the worst. If you still don't have a bunch of gear or mats, I'd keep this one.

There's always time later for improvements.

Also recs are going to be from a T5+ perspective. So keep that in mind.

[fallow meadow]

Just try out the Mk4 Duel sword. The damage is really stupid but it is also hard to use right. Sooo this is all right, I think?

[slate oasis]

Btw just to be clear when they say 380 is the max they’re only talking about gray rarity items

[shell marsh]

Ok what about other tier items

[pine nova]

I wish if you had the blessing on an equipped staff to prevent secondary fire being cancelled that it would work on charging smite too

[fallow meadow]

Just don't look at the total score, that mean almost nothing.

[cold oasis]

What's the good axe? 5 or 8?

i don't remember

[pine nova]

max orange is like 560 or something

[viscid matrix]

check the guide, all the weapons are on there

[fallow meadow]

Every weapon have a bunch of blessing that just don't worth using/do anything, weapon tier isn't helpful here. Aim for the good blessing is what I would recommended.

[unborn flicker]

when its max upgraded

youll want an item as close to 550 as possible

[pine nova]

not necessarily

[unborn flicker]

thats max cap

[fallow meadow]

Max is 380

[pine nova]

you'd be a dumbass to dump a 5 stat 77-78 because it's only 365

[unborn flicker]

That max circled is 550

[bleak tulip]

mostly ignore that number

also a weapon doesnt have to be 370 to not be trash

some weapons have agressively bad dump stats

[pine nova]

indidivual stats are way more important than overall rating

evan would delete this, despite it being perfectly auric viable

[fallow meadow]

The line to take on the base score is quite objective. I would say 350 is mostly good enough to use. Find replacement after you have something that is "good enough" first.

[unborn flicker]

Yes, but Im saying endgame, you want items with level 4 blessings, and a modifiers of 380

[bleak tulip]

even endgame its irrelevant, and your example is especially egregious for that

void blast radius is wholly irrelevant for the most part (unless youre doing a blaze void meme build)

[cold oasis]

You really do not need 380 weapons

330 weapons for most of them are more than enough

[unborn flicker]

They dont hurt to have

[bleak tulip]

well no shit

[unborn flicker]

Im running only Auric tho

[bleak tulip]

thats not what we're talking about is it

[cold oasis]

The important stuff is getting good distribution on the good stats

[bleak tulip]

the point is you dont need 370+

[unborn flicker]

I just regret dumping resources into crappy weapons when I didnt know any better

[modern tusk]

[unborn flicker]

Just trying to give him a clear idea of what top of the line is so he has a comparison

[pine nova]

mfw this is only 519

[young meteor]

Good, especially if it's your first one

[bleak tulip]

then dont oversimplify shit, even a 380 can be dogshit if you roll a 60 in the most important stat

[modern tusk]

Just grind out like 8 auric maelstroms and it'll be like you never lost anything

[unborn flicker]

💀

[modern tusk]

I mean that's what I exclusively play and the money and materials just roll in

[unborn flicker]

Its obvious enough that some stats are better than others, my issue was I didnt know what the ceiling was, I needed a metric with which to compare

[pine nova]

good weapon advice: look for 330+ base, and good stat allocations for whatever weapon you are rolling for, all weapons have at least one dump stat

bad weapon advice: throw away everything lower than 370

[unborn flicker]

This? @modern tusk You run these?

[bleak tulip]

some weapons dont have a clear dump stat but yeah

generally

[unborn flicker]

Ive tried like 8 times, always got wiped

[modern tusk]

Yup

I love those missions

I run support Psyker and make sure my team doesn't get killed

Bubble moment

[pine nova]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[unborn flicker]

Same here, its never enough

[twin vault]

Is Malleous Monstronum still achievable nowadays? If so how is it done now?

[unborn flicker]

Run smite and bubble

[modern tusk]

In my experience the easiest runs are when there's one of each class

[unborn flicker]

well trying on rn with ogyrn two pysks and a zealot

[modern tusk]

Or three ogryns

[fallow meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1162929517732577311/image.png?ex=6546f403&is=65347f03&hm=67503560d8d2cad6303d59f67710a3d7067947edf26486ff2f8e9f6fc07fd266&
behold, my holy power sword!

[modern tusk]

The blade weighs 800 pounds with that mobility

[bright mica]

with the recon lasgun changes, which one is the best variant now?

[modern tusk]

The lasgunest lasgun

[unborn flicker]

lol got wiped 4 minutes in

[modern tusk]

F

[unborn flicker]

wtf is that stat distribution

[west fjord]

stam for maniac, rampage for shred? or is bugged rampage worth keeping for now?

[strong pilot]

I have a loose point, should i take 15 toughness or this

[unborn flicker]

definitely that

we die so fast

[twin vault]

Is the redacted penance ‘Malleous Monstronum’ still achievable nowadays? If so how is it done now? Would like to find a group to get the robes from it

[plucky flax]

I'd take 15 toughness.

[strong pilot]

for context i have about 165 toughness atm

[plucky flax]

For toughness regen all you need is soulstealer and quietude.

[unborn flicker]

its just an ass kicking @modern tusk , I dont know how you do it

[modern tusk]

I put on space jam slam jam remixs

And just groove

[unborn flicker]

fuck

thats what I am missing

lets go

[fallow meadow]

Rampage is not working well on Dsword. Also, The point on Mk4 is its' heavy attack. It do so much damage, even against carapace.

[modern tusk]

Specifically quad city DJs vs crystal kings

[unborn flicker]

this song is a banger

[west fjord]

cool, I'll get rid then!

[modern tusk]

Play that and go Into maelstrom again

[vestal cloak]

Is it intended that every time u interact or something u get kicked out of your blitz?

[vale hatch]

There is any ways to unlock the blessing ?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you gotta sacrifice the weapon.

Oh you mean to swap it then no.

[vale hatch]

damn

[plucky flax]

Find a new sword.

[slender radish]

do you get that blessing forever to use or it's a one-time thing?

[hearty sedge]

Wait for the devs to realize their crafting system is garbage.

[unborn flicker]

goddamn, made it farther, still died tho

[cold oasis]

Forever and for any class that can use that weapon

Like, if you get a Laspistol blessing, you can extract it and use it on Psyker, Zealot and Vet

[small whale]

is obscurus the most op sword ever now

[slender radish]

ok nice, it's less worse than i thought

I was sure the blessing you extracted were one-time use

[cold oasis]

It is shit, not THAT shit

[slender radish]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[arctic vector]

What to change here?

[vale hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

maybe my grand child will be able to play with the system fixed

[olive ember]

💀 its bricked

[vale hatch]

i love matchmaking

[arctic vector]

💀💀 oh no

[vale hatch]

i'm tagging with people 17-20 lvl in heresy

then they all die and do nothing

[olive ember]

trust me

it doesn't change with the average random at 30

[arctic vector]

Warp nexus 1 and maniacs isn't good enough?

[vale hatch]

i did 270k damage and the highest one was 65k 💀

literal braindead

it was not really better when veteran was the only god tier class

atleast now psyker can shine

[modest pasture]

I hate assail.

[vale hatch]

i remember playing psyker at release it was a pain in the ass

[smoky fractal]

assail is so strong i just tried it yesterday

its literally a primary

[modest pasture]

Psyker has a lot of responsibility breaking down armored foes and mob control i find with my build at least. So i stay on that.

[slender radish]

assail is boring gameplau

[vale hatch]

smite not better

you just stun lock

and thats all you do

[slender radish]

I'm a BB enjoyer

[sour bison]

thanks Hadron

[modest pasture]

If Assail had a longer cooldown and didnt restart the timer until all are expended that would be fine.

I love Voidstrike Staves

[vale hatch]

assail against armored ennemy are not that good

[modest pasture]

Which is why i Brain

That is a point in Assail's favour tho in terms of balancing.

[vale hatch]

i've been playing in map with modifier with a lot or armored elite

[wise ruin]

See that's the problem u're a zealot u're supposed to be in the front not behind

[vale hatch]

i was literally not using it all lvl

like

horde control yeah thats op

[modest pasture]

Rather than Assail, i would love a rechargeable ability that lets you turn a Scab or Dreg level heavy into an ally temporarily.

[vale hatch]

idk i found assail fun to play

[modest pasture]

Only 1 at a time to start obviously.

[wise ruin]

I usually focus on melee while playing psyker so I like assail to quickly kill some gunners and then go back to slashing

[modest pasture]

Or not even an ally, just frenzied and attacking everything includings its own mobs

[smoky fractal]

BB still feels clunkly which my preffered blitz T_T

but assail is that strong

[vale hatch]

brain burst always been bad

since the release

[wise ruin]

Yeah bb needs some buffs still

[smoky fractal]

even with 6 stacks warp

[wise ruin]

I really like playing with it but it's just weak

[smoky fractal]

the only way i 2 shots elites is long charging it

or err ogryns

[vale hatch]

in a game where you're attacked by hordes of hundreds of ennemies single target brain burst are just a bad capacity

just delete it

[smoky fractal]

i run surge staff so i havent run smite yet

is it reduntant?

to run both

[vale hatch]

too much specific

[meager eagle]

hordes are usually not the biggest threat

the elites and specialists are

which is why brain burst is great

[smoky fractal]

longest damage move in the game comes in clutch

[vale hatch]

i've never seen anybody with brain burst carried a game

ngl

[smoky fractal]

if you got good using BB pre patch its pretty much the same clutch plays

[vale hatch]

if they do more map with new boss and stuff it might be more useful

but they are lazy and don't release any new mission

we always playing the same mission over and over

would like more boss raid

but it will never happen

[smoky fractal]

melee/gun psyker with disrupt destiny and scrier gaze

discount zealot

[vale hatch]

in higher difficulty i think its fine

[twin vault]

Is the redacted penance ‘Malleous Monstronum’ still achievable nowadays? If so how is it done now? Would like to find a group to get the robes from it

[analog agate]

Not as a hot take as you’d thing. Arco shares your view and is the primary assail abuser

[scarlet moat]

[vale hatch]

''Assail are strong so just nerf it so much that nobody gonna play it anymore''

💀

[scarlet moat]

Gunpsyker

[plucky flax]

Hrmm most melee kills in a team with 2 zealots and 1 ogryn.

Veri kool

[plucky flax]

Well back then when bb was the only blitz there was plenty of carry with it.

Xd

[vale hatch]

lmao

but it was still bad

[valid talon]

Would you guys take a toughness node or battle meditation? Battle meditations quell is kinda low but you go through a lot of enemies. Toughness node brings toughness from 163->186

[steel flame]

Always battle meditation

For me at least

[valid talon]

Yeah I was thinking that as well - its not much but its more offensive power

[steel flame]

It stacks up when you do a genocide

[near wyvern]

Dum Dum into IV and +20 into +25 unyielding let's goooooo

[scarlet moat]

Indeed

[near wyvern]

Other option is to change that maniac since +20 unyielding is already pretty good

So you will have one flex perk if you wish

[scarlet moat]

I'll probably keep Maniac
Because I hate rager

Bane of my existence

[steel flame]

What an impressive co- I mean laspistol

Forcepush yeet them ragers

[near wyvern]

@steel flame I confirmed, laspistol with +25 unyielding, dumdum4 and infernus4 popping scrier's gaze with finesse upgrade and true aim gets 4k+ ideal monstrosity DPS including reloads

You can kill a monstrosity with just a couple mags

[steel flame]

Sounds about right

It tears through mini monsters like paper

[near wyvern]

It's the top monstrosity DPS for Psykers this patch unless lasguns are providing to be better (which I doubt, but haven't tested those yet)

[pine nova]

assail only psykers when they come across 1 mutant and 2 crushers: (they are losing half their health at minimum)

[scarlet moat]

Smite reign supreme

[near wyvern]

Also unstable power is useless now on Deimos, not because it would suck but because it's not needed to meet one shots. Uncanny Strike + Slaughterer is the best offensive combo for Deimos now.

[pine nova]

does illisi want different blessings?

[near wyvern]

Uncanny Strike + Slaughterer if hou are not spamming special all the time. When you are stacked up, a special on elite will do chunks.

Have not tested the special spam version this patch yet

Blazing Spirit + Shred on illisi is still not as good as direct damage version

And Illisi is the best weapon to use on a Psyker if you want horde clear from your melee. Devil's claw had a very short run at number 1 horde clear for Psykers.

[spare sail]

everyone knows the best horde clear is the staffs primary attack being spammed

[near wyvern]

LMAO try quell cancelling it

[pine nova]

I am pretty sure the one I ave now has blazing spirit locked on it

tier 3

[slender radish]

what's the dump stat on duelling sword? Mobility?

[spare sail]

ye

[slender radish]

and the usual go-to blessings?

[potent echo]

uncanny / anything

not rampage though

yucky

[dawn orchid]

Is the surge blessing on the trauma staff any good? Melk has one with it

[rain meadow]

anybody have that image from the fatshark instgram that showed a whole bunch of stats from post patch 13?

yeah thanks

[pine nova]

I haven't seen that before lmfao

1.4 million booms

[steel flame]

Psyker being most played class sounds about right

[bitter coral]

so wait what parts of emp psy apply to staffs?

[steel flame]

Emp what,?

[bitter coral]

empowered psionics

[steel flame]

The smite part affects surge zap

[bitter coral]

from one smite bug to the next

[runic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-haha-gaming-man-nervous-gif-17329185

ascendant blaze, BB, trauma

or, well, it's called Creeping Flames now

[fresh reef]

I'm not sure if I dislike playing with Assail Void or EP Surge more

[magic vessel]

Still have yet to get a non bricked trauma

Been surging instead since I can actually get one of those

[steel flame]

I thought I was done hunting for trauma staffs awhile ago after getting perfects for both.....but then someone brought up the idea of rending/blaze...

And my curiosity is a bitch sometimes

[light citrus]

Should I Keep this

[wise crest]

Anyone have a good smite build they'd be willing to share

[analog solstice]

i think my strongest build so far has been illisi/surge with brainburst mostly for the procs when you use surge

with warp battery and venting shriek

[wise crest]

ty

[steel flame]

Real shame psyker doesn't have a brittle melee option

[steel flame]

?????????

I smell something shady

[crisp yacht]

I would say no.

Unless you don't have anything better. Damage is low. Shred and Cara damage is okay.

[buoyant crypt]

It's jus random image

[steel flame]

Tastes like heresy

I CAN SMELL YOUR SINS

[buoyant crypt]

Well I'm an artist as you can see

[olive ember]

which one of you hit them with the copypasta

[near wyvern]

Combat axes do have it

[steel flame]

......

[harsh urchin]

This copy pasta doesn't have amigo

2/10

[olive ember]

I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five enemies in the game stop what they are doing and stand there for a few seconds and take damage on top of it in the time it takes you to right click, left click, and then then R. that's the definition of a player issue. The only staff that matches it in versatility is the purgatus staff. The purgatus staff just has different enemies and situations it's weak again

If i'm running surge staff I rarely get into a situation where my whole team is dead, because I have the tools that stops all the specials that suprise wipe teams. When i am in that situation pressing my F key to push/light everything around me on fire and some slash/push with my Illsi typically gives me the breathing room to go back the dogs/trappers etc under control.

What I'm getting from this is you aren't super great at melee crowd control, and that's fine a lot of people aren't, and it's a learned skill. But that's not an issue with a surge staff. It's jsut an issue that you can kind of get around with staffs like the purgatus.

[vast sonnet]

Do you guys think the shitty finesse roll on this is negligible enough to upgrade?

[harsh urchin]

no

finesse imo is the only stat that NEEDS to be 80

[lyric burrow]

No

[vast sonnet]

I also have this

[harsh urchin]

that one is fine to upgrade

[lyric burrow]

Finesse at least 70+ for sure

[analog agate]

It was me. But I can’t remember if the other quote you had is from the same guy/reddit post

[olive ember]

different guy

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12znuqe/comment/jhtw4a7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[harsh urchin]

amigo

[steel flame]

Derpy has trouble letting go

[olive ember]

I'm sorry amigo

[potent echo]

Is this like pre patch 13

Yea lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Holy crap Im so tired of pugs that have no situational awareness

[olive ember]

thats just pugs in general

in any pve coop game

[north cradle]

Average randos

[steady yarrow]

Are people still rocking Void after the nerf? Still seems like the best staff.

[analog agate]

It is why atm I don’t mind running op surge. I also am finding myself limiting surge use and playing Arco’s old playstyle with illisi and occasionally busting out the staff

[analog agate]

Yes. Still best staff

[steady yarrow]

I dig the surge staff also, but I am too hooked on the range for the void.

[analog agate]

Oh yeah, I was referring to the posts above you about randos sucking

[rocky hedge]

whats the surge staff build? my pre-patch build ain't it.

[olive ember]

bugged or not bugged

[terse rivet]

man primary fire on voidstrike with surge blessing and warp nexus is hitting different now

you can just gun things down with it

[ebon jolt]

I’ve been enjoying purg staff most recently. Even if it might not be rated the best.

[terse rivet]

purge is great if you have teammates that can kill heavies

and gunners

[potent echo]

Purg is the best fight me

[olive ember]

if you want to utilize the bug

[rare storm]

god damn bricked

Gamba life is hard

[fresh reef]

current build. not sure if it counts as meta with how many viable things psyker has

[vestal cloak]

What is the 7th mission type??

I feel like I did every mission type and still ain’t got that penance

[rare storm]

That's a nice staff, I've yet to get a good one for myself damn

[rare storm]

1 Disruption.
2 Investigation.
3 Strike.
4 Repair.
5 Espionage.
6 Raid.
7 Assassination.

[vestal cloak]

On console ain’t no way to check and see what I’m missing guess I’ll just do em all

[rare storm]

Ehh don't think there's a way to check it in the first place tbh

[vast sonnet]

Is that the special melee hit on the staves or that's regular left right click attacks?

[spice veldt]

just a typo; meant to say ranged instead of melee but it hasn't been fixed for a year currently

[vast sonnet]

Figured. Thanks

[feral knoll]

Does Unstable Power scale with more Peril or less?

[warped sky]

anyone have a good support build skill tree

[vestal cloak]

What’s the deal with the surge psyker?

Can anybody send me a build so I can abuse it while it’s here

[olive ember]

#psyker-class message

[ruby meadow]

Just need the bottom middle keystone. You don't need Smite for it to work.

[pale pilot]

so does the EP toughness node trigger on losing a stack or whenever something benefits from EP? because that makes or breaks its inclusion in the surgebuild

[ruby meadow]

It occurs when a stack of EP is consumed by a Blitz ability

Based on the wording of course

[rocky hedge]

does surge need smite?

[ruby meadow]

It does not

[spice veldt]

more peril = more power

you gain a stack at 20/40/60/80% peril thresholds; each stack gives 5% power (assuming t4)

[ruby meadow]

It worked (bugged double damage) while using Brain Burst for me

[fresh reef]

I tired going back to Psyker after playing Vet

Vet is so, so much easier

like holy fuck

Constant passive 50% damage reduction on toughness, and if I drop below 75% toughness that I just press F, kill 3 specialists, and then do it all over again

[spice veldt]

o shit iron will + voice of command?

[fresh reef]

Eyup

it's fucking disgusting

Not to mention your ability stacks with itself

[harsh urchin]

vet is rly strong lol

[fresh reef]

on an ability cooldown maelstrom I managed to give myself +500 toughness at one point

[harsh urchin]

psyker is bugged rn, but i dunno if itll stand up to other classes

once they lose the bugged shit

[fresh reef]

psyker is still very strong, it's just

you literally can't make mistakes

[harsh urchin]

and other classes are just as strong but you can make mistakes

and psyker once the bugs are nerfed will be weaker AND you cant make mistakes

[analog agate]

Isn’t the only bug on the psyker atm surge ep? Am I missing something?

Void/assail is still incredibly strong and I wouldn’t count it as weaker than other classes

[royal falcon]

this sword goes hard for no reason

I love it

[analog agate]

Blind my eyes from that crit dmg perk 😎

But yeah, that will still be really good if you replace rampage to uncanny and then one of your perks to, probably manaic

[rare storm]

shiiiii a pretty good drop

[feral knoll]

Thank you. Was too lazy to test

[terse rivet]

Dominate triggers on ranged elite kill right?

wrong chat

[silver portal]

what perk should i put to replace flak dmgs?

yes i am a gun psyker

[lethal lagoon]

That's not rare anymore lmao

Like there's a whole tree for gunning

Also what's wrong with flak?

I thought you were supposed to have flak on that

[chilly blaze]

mobility is the best stat to get a bad roll on on dueling swords right?

if the rest are good*

[analog agate]

Yes

I think the cut off is 50 or 51% to have max dodges

[fierce crest]

Cleave damage too

[hearty crow]

you want damage to flak and damage to unarmoured

[ripe yacht]

So… if smite is entirely optional in a surge build, are y'all running brain burst or magic missiles?

My inclination is to opt into brain burst for monstrosity damage.

[slow raven]

i'd rather dump cleave damage than mobility

you can actually notice the difference between 51 and 80 mobility

unlike on a lot of weapons

and cleave damage is pointless

at least on the iv

on a weapon that struggles to proc rampage which is only 3 targets hit, unless you go out of your way to use the push attack

[spark parcel]

I'm a Smite/Surge build that's not using the bugged EP (using warp charges), and the amount of times I wish I had Brain Burst is like... multiple times every match

[ripe yacht]

I'm all in on the EP bug, but I figure… magic missiles don't help me at all. Smite is great for horde control, but I use an illisi. It's not necessary. Bosses though? Hopes & prayers. Brain burst might help with that.

[spark parcel]

Smite is definitely not necessary, as much as I love it. Right now I either swing my sword at bosses or just control the hordes during monstrocities, BB would be amazing there. Plus, it's always nice to have a long-distance tool if you're partnered with people who have trouble landing shots on snipers and stuff imo

[rare storm]

Well since you use the illisi, you don't need smite for the EP feature (in case you didn't know)

[ripe yacht]

You don't need it for the damage bonus?

[rare storm]

nope

works without it

[ripe yacht]

Huh.

I didn't know that. How does that work?

[ripe yacht]

Yeah, I typically fall back to horde control and hope my 10% damage boost from enfeeble does something lol.

[rare storm]

Somebody says it's because of the copy paste spaghetti code that surge/ep has always been a feature but only being found out now because of the HUGE damage boost to it

[spark parcel]

My understanding is that when you have the EP buff it just gives you like 125% damage buff to your surge staff

[ripe yacht]

Right, but you have to be running EP to get the EP damage bonus… right?

[spark parcel]

Yes

[rare storm]

Yes

but you don't need the smite blitz for it to work

[silver portal]

i know but i rarely see other gun psykers. just didnt know which perk/blessing to replace

[strong gulch]

For EP damage bonus, you don't need smite.

If you want the extra bonus past the smite for surge, then you need smite.

[ripe yacht]

Okay. Gotcha. I thought you were saying you didn't need EP at all lol.

[rare storm]

Because your surge "counts" as smite

for some reason

[rare storm]

oh

Imagine tho lul

[ripe yacht]

I'm tired. Reading comprehension is hard today. 😄

[silver portal]

plus didnt want others to confuse me for wrong chagt since this psyker chawt

[rare storm]

Reading is hard, truly

I know the feeling some days

[ripe yacht]

So… sounds like Brain Burst is just the way to go then.

[strong gulch]

Honestly reading comprehension is hard everyday.

Potato EVERDAY.

[ripe yacht]

Is it worth picking up kinetic flayer, assuming I really only care about monstrosity damage?

(I don't like kinetic flayer, but y'all seem to love it so… )

[strong gulch]

It's fun when it goes off, but it's less useful than it used to be.

If you have a free point and don't know what to do with then sure.

[rare storm]

er I pick it up cause it's fun like what potato says lol

and I use it on my melee build

Surprisingly helps quite abit

[ripe yacht]

My impression is it's nice, I guess, but the benefit would be using surge for DPS and hoping for kinetic flayer procs.

As opposed to just whipping out brain burst.

[rare storm]

ehh I only really use brain bursts to get snipers/bursters/monstrosities anyway

So... to each their own ye

[strong gulch]

If you like it and have fun with take it; especially if you are building into EP or DD.

If you're building into WS, you kinda want as many points as possible.

[ripe yacht]

Thank you for your input, y'all. I'll give it a shot tonight 🙂

[fresh reef]

every one of my psyker runs so far has ended in failure

I can't tell if it's because I'm just bad, or if it's because my team is bad

[still hearth]

Yes

[strong gulch]

I was gonna say it could be both.

Yes is a better answer.

Also, it happens. Sorry for the frustrating games.

[smoky turtle]

I'm not going to bother asking for "best" or whatever, but for those that enjoy staffs rather than firearms, what's your preference?
I've been using the Surge Force one for quite a while now but I've seen a lot of people with the Purgatus

[strong gulch]

My preference changes, but surge has been consistently high up on my list since beta.

[spice veldt]

trauma, cuz I've always just used my blitz + melee and I just need something for 10 crushers/bulwarks

[spark parcel]

Surge has always been my favorite

Voidstrike and Trauma can be a lot of fun though!

[smoky turtle]

makes sense
I've not been super impressed with the trauma's damage but I can definitely get behind the AoE and stuff for it

[spice veldt]

surge dethroning trauma as the fastest charging staff 🥺

[kind jay]

I'm a filthy surge main

[cedar saffron]

Only brain burst psykers matter

[spice veldt]

:(

[cedar saffron]

Don't at me

[spice veldt]

I need my trauma support force

[kind jay]

why burst brains when you can burst the entire enemy

[cedar saffron]

Because sharing heretics to kill is what emps woulda wanted

[strong gulch]

I enjoy trauma a lot too. Conflag was my favorite staff in VT2 for a long time.

[kind jay]

in the wise words of loner psyker: "for the emperor... im sure"

[nimble adder]

Question about the seer psyker who is the “beloved” exactly?

Does anyone know?

[unique mist]

potentially a mix between a shard of the emperor's psyche and schizophrenia

[smoky turtle]

big E

[steel flame]

Take a wild guess

[kind jay]

it's definitely grimace

[nimble adder]

If a had to guess a possible daemon

[unique mist]

Seer is definitely hearing voices/schizophrenic but Beloved is literally telling him stuff nobody should know

[spark parcel]

Could be a fragment of the Emperor's personality, could be a daemon?

[steel flame]

Would certainly be interesting. It's either, Big E, the warp, or he's just a nutcase.....or all three

[unique mist]

like I know for sure the Emperor isn't saying "is that pox hound a good dog?" Or "can you stop the Zealot?"

but there are some voice lines about the golden throne or something that nobody, not even the Primarchs, should know

just can't remember what exactly

[spark parcel]

Sounds like heresy to me.

[austere burrow]

He mentions the Thunder warriors iirc

Which absolutely no one would know about except the emperor

Given that they're pre-primarch

[smoky turtle]

do you though? I don't see a reason why he couldn't say those.

[vestal cloak]

I like psyker so far but got damn u get breathed on u did

Die

[wanton sandal]

damn it feels good to be a (smite) psyker

[steel flame]

He is a glass cannon. Best defense is to not get hit

[hearty sedge]

Kill me please. I have staves to reroll.

[orchid shadow]

Always be regenerating toughness.

[spice veldt]

when in doubt, take all of the toughness gen feats that suit your build

shlerp

[hearty sedge]

Toughness gen is pretty much mandatory.

[kind jay]

just don't get hit

[smoky turtle]

jesus Arnie took an absolute ton of damage
that's impressive in its own right, how do you even take 1200 HP worth of damage as psyker

[modest pasture]

Finally happy with my Psyker's look

[torn horizon]

brain burst is broken

[ripe yacht]

Surge & Purgatus here.

[fierce crest]

BB is B

[modest pasture]

Brain Burst is a powerful solo target sniper ability. It should be a lil broken.

[torn horizon]

no as in not working right

[modest pasture]

Oh damn

How

[torn horizon]

the charging meter is broken and moves around delying

[orchid shadow]

What? Moves around?

[torn horizon]

let me finish my game then ill explain its super badf

[magic vessel]

anyone have a surge staff build that's not the smite one?

[torn horizon]

alright so ill charge this with my right click and then when i go to pop someone it will go back down to half then charge back up

[magic vessel]

running into lots of pub smite guys and dont' wanna keep doubling up on all the same stuff

[wanton sandal]

i get some fun out of the trauma and surge

[torn horizon]

gonna have to make a bug report cause brain burst is just bad now

[orchid shadow]

Are you clicking before it's fully charged?

[torn horizon]

nope, tested all sorts of ways and its just not working right

[orchid shadow]

Huh, don't know then. I haven't see that issue before.

[strong gulch]

If you're wanting to do the extra damage build, you don't smite for it. It's surge + EP.

Right now I have surge + BB + creeping flames + EP.

If you want a comfier peril management build at the cost of damage, invest into WS and get inner tranq.

[magic vessel]

that's what i was thinking but i know it's just mega bugged and seems like i dunno if i wanna get invested in something that's gonna hotfix

[torn horizon]

yeah it was weird it makes brain burst not work anymore

[strong gulch]

I mean, you just swap talents around. Things keep changing anyways. But that's also valid.

I like the WS build tho.

[strong gulch]

I'm not able to replicate the issue with my build. Submit a bug report if you can.

[torn horizon]

just did, i was thinking that empowered psionics was fucking it up

[orchid shadow]

Does it still do it if you restart Darktide?

[torn horizon]

so testing in the arena without empowered is fine

so it is empowered psy, it fucks with the charge for some reason

WARNNING USING EMPOWERED PSY MAKE BRAIN BURST BAD

[visual adder]

PSYKERS RISE UP

[primal plume]

With EP Smite, theres no reason to ever use Copeatus

[timber basin]

Hello fellow crazy people- I have a question, albeit I feel as if I already know the answer, but Assail is the only Psyker 'Biltz' that can crit, correct?

[orchid shadow]

You're literally the only person I've seen have that problem. I use BB + EP. There has to be something more to it.

[torn horizon]

ill play around and see whats the issue

[harsh urchin]

they can all crit afaik, but functionally only the dart crits matter

since brainburst generally is utilized for one-shot breakpoints

and smite crits and non-crits all do 0 damage

[grand shoal]

What purg staff stats are ideal

something critty?

[dense tapir]

I made a build that i call "I wished i was a zealot instead, but Brain burst is fun"
The concept is simple : You get tons of peril back with the sword, which amplify and maintain your scryer"s gaze
You use the shredder pistol to get back to full toughness thanks to the stupidly high amont of crits in a nanosecond or to kill berserker / ogryns if you need high dps on a few select targets
If you have to kill specials/elite out of gun reach or carapace armored target, You have 3 free mega brain burst that you can use even while in scryer's gaze

I like playing this build with 2 hp and 1 wound curio, but i think any combination work fine

big dmg, especially on waves

[harsh urchin]

hey man as long as you're having fun

i'd recommend you check out rebuilding your shredder though

it's not a very good crit weapon

[dense tapir]

The goal is to get a ton of crit in a very small amount of time, it's not really for the dmg

but if you have a suggestion i take it

[fallow falcon]

Just run a recon las with headtaker then

[dense tapir]

I forgot psykers had access to recon

[magic vessel]

Recon after p14

[dense tapir]

because i'm dumb

[magic vessel]

[wet belfry]

Infantry autoguns also looking fire rn.

Im unsure which however is the best one for psyker

[harsh urchin]

if you want to get toughness you can utilize replenishing barrage on the blessing

if you want to do strong crits vraks3 will probably do better

[dense tapir]

it's too slow, the crits make it almost instant

[grand shoal]

someone was telling me to put crit on purg

not playing psyker with a gun. not fun to me. i get its effectiveness though

[harsh urchin]

crit is good on purg

you dont need to invest though

just slap on warp nexus

and you're done

[grand shoal]

most i see is increased crit change by 5% and 10% ranged crit dmg

[harsh urchin]

ye, you want to use the perks for other stats

you can get all the crit you need from the blessing warp nexus

[wet belfry]

I think gun psyker isnt in its prime yet.

[grand shoal]

ah ok

[wet belfry]

Supporting talents just arent that good in psyker rn

Scriers gaze, disrupt destiny dont work that well.

[harsh urchin]

true aim is good though

it enables the vraks3

[dense tapir]

Headtaker / infernus sounds good ?

[grand shoal]

what about surg staff, can't maybe crit as well

[harsh urchin]

for basically infinite crits

[harsh urchin]

surge doesn't really need crit at all

since you get 20% crit from the raw stats

[tame hawk]

Surge staff absolutely crits

[harsh urchin]

so you just slap on warp nexus

and you have 50% crit or so without any investment

and then you can use flak + elites on the perks

[wet belfry]

Technically revolver is actually one of psykers best weapons.

[grand shoal]

I have my surg doing +25% dmg to Flak and Carapace armor

[wet belfry]

Hand cannon affecting blitz, melee, ranged is pretty op.

[harsh urchin]

revolver actually saves assail rn lol

it feels pretty lackluster without handcannon currently

[dense tapir]

Meh, recon doesn't have a rate of fire high enough to make the cheese work

[lethal lagoon]

watch them fix handcannon before fixing EP surge lmao

[wet belfry]

Try the colomnus infantry autogun

[spice veldt]

that'd be likely cuz handcannon was prob caught before ep surge

[dense tapir]

Damn it's pretty good

[strong gulch]

Alive or dead. It's equal opportunity to me.

[dusky palm]

is this the right place to complain about the skill tree node that lets you quell without a movement penalty not being accessible from the brain burst side of the tree? because I really want that back

[unique mist]

yeah but tbh its not that big a deal and not that good a node

[dusky palm]

I still want it

[unique mist]

the bigger issue is venting shriek being inaccessible if you go crit chance aura

[dusky palm]

also true

some of that stuff really bugs me about the new system

[fallow falcon]

Yeah, that's ideal

[spice veldt]

it's a quirk of psyker

which i'm mostly fine with

[dusky palm]

I think the quell movement speed bugs me in particular because I had it under the old system and got used to it

[spice veldt]

not that I ever go sideways because I don't ever want to go through mind in motion from assail

[dusky palm]

I want to like assail but just kinda don't

[spice veldt]

assail is maximum brain off for me

[dusky palm]

the idea of it is so cool, but brain burst just feels much more useful

[strong gulch]

Sucks you can't have that node. If it helps, you can slide while quelling.

[unique mist]

also anyone know if Perfect Timing always didn't require crit hits?

[spice veldt]

if psyker was absolutely already mechanically dead, then assail really brings that braindeadness to all ranges

[unique mist]

because i can spam the staff primary fire without hitting anything and get stacks of Perfect Timing from the bolts that "crit" without hitting anything

[spice veldt]

yeah, it procs on critical attacks for some reason

[unique mist]

is that new or not

[spice veldt]

unlike Mettle which works like a normal kid

it's worked like that since patch 13

[unique mist]

k

[snow coral]

not being able to have a dome in instant reserve anymore feels bad, lol

[wooden flare]

Which staff would be best to use if I’m doing a melee Psyker build?

I plan to use Force Sword in case you’re wondering

[spice veldt]

i run trauma for melee builds

[wooden flare]

Purgatus?

[spice veldt]

or purg if you want to only use its left-click

[thorn cedar]

gun

[wooden flare]

Boo

[thorn cedar]

give Psykers shotguns again

[wooden flare]

I play funny space wizard class for space wizard shit

[spice veldt]

TRUE

my arms can handle the recoil

[wooden flare]

unless we can channel warp energy into shotguns I ain’t interested

[keen slate]

What would be best blessings/perks for surge staff?

[wanton sandal]

warp flurry & nexus

and uhh

[keen slate]

Crit + Any?

[wanton sandal]

crit + maniac/flak/carapace

not sure which would be best

but maniac is always a good damage to run

so prolly crit maniac

[keen slate]

I have initial elite damage

[wanton sandal]

that's good

wait you mean lvl 1 elite damage?

[keen slate]

lvl 3

[harsh urchin]

blessings: nexus + flurry
perks: flak + elites or carapace

[wanton sandal]

ah thats good

[keen slate]

Gonna save for flurry then

[loud spear]

for fire truama what perks should i use

[wanton sandal]

flurry is a must-have on all staves

[harsh urchin]

you don't want crit on it because you already have 50% baseline and going to 55% is ineffective.

[wanton sandal]

wym by this

[harsh urchin]

and you don't want maniac because you already one-shot all non-mutant maniacs and afaik it doesn't change the breakpoint for mutants

[loud spear]

so flak?

[harsh urchin]

I like flak+elites

[loud spear]

thanks

[steel flame]

Or make some of the staff primaries shotgun blasts like vermintide

[kind jay]

cara is great on surge. there's so many crusher patrols now

[dim token]

can anyone help me with cliffhanger penance I have done it 5 times now and idk what I'm doing wrong

[strong gulch]

I'd also rec trauma. It can deal with anything.

[orchid shadow]

Where are you trying to push them off?

[primal plume]

is it me or is scryers gaze dogshit

its cool in concept but the payoff is ass

[lyric burrow]

Its pretty mid and very niche use

Ive only heard of people getting use with melee heavy builds and guns

[wanton sandal]

yeah i've only heard it being useful with gun psyker

could prolly be useful for crit shredder or something

[wanton sandal]

best done on that one espionage mission with the tower and the two bridges

use your force sword with the peril block thing, wait until a big group builds up around you

then push

altho it works best if your team knows what you're doing so communicate

[dim token]

dosent work for me cause no team cooperates most iv got is 5 or 6

[twin hedge]

I dunno man. I tried using it, and its more of a kill faster type situation.

Like if I can't cast gun hard enough on a boss or an elite I'm popping it. But its hard to use in oh shit moments.

[dim token]

if there's anyone who could help with it I would appreciate it

[rain meadow]

thanks game

[dim token]

how does that even happen

[unique mist]

its quite bugged

like half the bonuses don't even activate until it ends

but you're right

its main use is for gun psyker or melee combat

[twin hedge]

Im paranoid to use it too since my peril shoots through the roof.

[hollow holly]

Curious, does the surge blessing work on the charge attack for trauma staff?

[bleak tulip]

no

[hollow holly]

That's cringe

[unique mist]

trauma still feels garbage to use IMO

slow charge time, weird aiming, not effective enough at single target or horde clear

voidstrike, for me, is significantly better at horde clear and single target than Trauma

[hollow holly]

That's cool and all, but I'm still using trauma

[lyric burrow]

I mean voidstrike is better at those things but void is a bit of an unfair comparison given its pretty op

Trauma is still very good

[pine nova]

average auric run lmfao

(I am #3)

perma blocking shield ogryn 😭

[twin hedge]

Nice. Are these numbers tracked in the vanilla game already or does the mod do it and display it?

[hollow holly]

That perma stagger is 💋

[pine nova]

mod only, vanilla shows you nothing but the data is there in the background lol

[twin hedge]

Haha that is so strange.

[brazen warren]

staves right now: VS>surge=trauma>purg

[orchid shadow]

shudder

I walked into the wrong neighborhood.

[hollow holly]

Oh to have a purg buff

Hope for that is what makes me get out of bed in the morning

[pine nova]

[twin hedge]

Neat.

[hollow holly]

Whew, sick sword

[orchid shadow]

What was the other perk that was so bad that you chose to keep Carapace on that?

[tough lake]

Yay or nay?

[brazen warren]

seems good

swap the perks out probs

keep the blessings

[strong gulch]

I'd grab it just for the T4s.

Uncanny should probably take priority over unstable if you surrender it.

But also use it if it's an upgrade.

[valid talon]

Lmao based mod

[cyan notch]

id use it

[unique mist]

dammit man i wish i could use mods on xbox

this would be so useful for me

[strong gulch]

It makes a so much difference. 🥲 RIP

[steel flame]

What an absolute chad

[ebon jolt]

I finally did it. After 400+ hours I finally have T4 Slaughter for the force sword.

[valid talon]

be me
psyker main
Can't for the life of me find a good voidstrike staff or the surge enchantment, have less than ideal melee and surge staff
many tries and many tears
Brut rolling in my ordos and hadron in my plasteel while cry-laughing emoji at me
Dislike ogryn
Dislike grenade gauntlet
Roll one anyway because you hear its good
549 rating with perfect stat spread, perks, and blessings
It hurts bros

[still hearth]

Never play different characters

It's easy

[strong gulch]

Yeah it can't be really brutal trying to get blessings.

Over 900 hrs and still no surge on voidstrike

[grave moth]

Hey i am trying to do the Malleus Mosnstonum challeng if someone want to help. VC7

[spice veldt]

i got a surge on vstrike early on but accidentally deleted it

and then surge became the best blessing patch 13

[strong gulch]

yip

[spice veldt]

trajedy

[strong gulch]

true

https://tenor.com/view/powerrangers-gif-5831419

[fallow falcon]

Reload to maniac?

Or is there anything cool and new about this variant in patch 14

[loud spear]

whats my best options for boss dps with a loadout of asssail truama and diemos

[stable nacelle]

what is the surge staff bug anyone knows

or are pubs just being clueless

[fallow falcon]

Take the middle tree keystone

The stacks from that also buff your surge staff

But don't consume stacks

[stable nacelle]

I see

[brazen warren]

how much does a critical strike effect your cleave values on melee weapons?

[tired knoll]

do you need to have smite for surge staff ep

[strong gulch]

no

[copper torrent]

Just a note, the smite nodes affect surge staff. Up to you whether an extra target and 10% damage are worth it.

[ebon jolt]

Not really. Recon lasguns are probably the worst psyker guns right now. With the 7 being the most usable. Infernus is probably better that punishing salvo but maniac damage is nice too. They’re balancing the gun archetype around vet.

[fresh reef]

"this build would be really stupid to run damnation on. Smite and Purgatus don't mix well"

swap Purg to Void
queue into maelstrom
loadout didn't save

[spice veldt]

crits don't affect cleave unless they changed that with this patch
but crits do stagger more and would reduce the hitmass of enemies cuz of stagger

[brazen warren]

thanks!

[steel flame]

Sounds like a staff issue if ever I heard one

[fresh reef]

true!

[steel flame]

It's fine, we still have mega stronk laspistol