#psyker-class

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olive ember
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Cuz the flat damage variance is very little but Idr if damage affects anything else on purge

terse rivet
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Yes they did nerf it, no it doesn’t matter

trail forge
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oh they nerfed void strike from stupid op to normal op

olive ember
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Yeah

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Tho someone here thought it was ruined

terse rivet
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17th time asking this. But does anybody know how to fix keybindings resetting everytime I close the game

olive ember
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I never changed keybinds so

spice veldt
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did you set user_settings.config to read only?

olive ember
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Aren’t you an Econ major smh

spice veldt
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i'm a comp eng major

terse rivet
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No I have not, follow up question do I have to turn off read only everytime I change a setting

spice oar
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Dance bruh

olive ember
spice veldt
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no

upbeat parcel
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does this revolver passive only apply to the revolver? or if I pull out assail it'll benefit from it?

olive ember
trail forge
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and its ruined isnt it... ?

spice veldt
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i basically did all of my math and general ed courses early on, so my programming knowledge is very peepee poopoo

olive ember
terse rivet
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Crucian roulette does not apply to assail

olive ember
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It’s won’t be min maxed but

trail forge
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god damn my fcking rolls are so bad

olive ember
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If you get a decent 2nd blessing

wanton sandal
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usable, but wouldnt bring it into damnation

olive ember
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You can still have a decent purge

upbeat parcel
spice oar
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Not the run n gun

olive ember
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Your senior year is gonna be hell

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You want to take all the hard courses at the end?

spice veldt
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😔

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i was preparing for a transfer so I did all of those early on, but I changed my mind at the end

olive ember
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Look at me dying but I’m taking shit like public speaking in senior year

terse rivet
olive ember
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To fulfill general Ed reqs

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Bro if I didn’t double major I could’ve graduated last year

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Why did I take a double major

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Fuck me

trail forge
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i cant believe this

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run and gun again?

wanton sandal
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fine perk tho

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just upgrade it and swap run n gun later

pale pilot
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oh right, how are warp swords now?

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better spot?

olive ember
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The darktide crafting system is

wanton sandal
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sadly they removed infinite dodge but def feel more damage

olive ember
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Well it’s looter shooter crafting

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It’s literally fucking looter shooter with the colors the fucking affix locking

quasi junco
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lol im surprised infinite dodge was there to begin with

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hello infinite demonhost kiting

olive ember
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It’s not even the first time I had this revelation but holy shit it tilts me whenever I’m reminded that darktide’s crafting is literally lifted out of a looter shooter game

quasi junco
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hey guys, whats best blessings and perks on surge staff?

wanton sandal
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i prefer it to vt2 crafting tho

wanton sandal
olive ember
wanton sandal
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just cuz faster chained is better

quasi junco
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thx 🙂

wanton sandal
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idk bout perks tho

olive ember
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Some people mentioned flak and maniac

dense bramble
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What do we think of new force swords?

wanton sandal
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yeah that sounds bout right

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maniac is just a really good dmg type to buff

olive ember
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Psure with the double damage bug you want maniac and unyielding

wanton sandal
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prolly just me

dense bramble
faint sigil
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What's the double damage bug?

dense bramble
ebon jolt
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Smite EP keystone currently applies to surge staff.

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But doesn’t use a charge.

wanton sandal
pale pilot
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yeah all smite buffs are inhereted by the surge staff secondary

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it's great

olive ember
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Surge staff without bug is kinda weak

dense bramble
olive ember
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They should just keep this bug

lethal lagoon
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Remove bug and buff surge damage by like 50%, seems fitting.

olive ember
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Well they should make the surge staff have +100% damage by default and make smite and surge staff rmb not be the same thing

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So you lose the 3rd target, you lose the +10% damage from the smite nodes

lethal lagoon
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With the bug the 2nd and 3rd target do quite a lot of damage now, it's wild

wanton sandal
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surge does pretty respectable damage when charged

lethal lagoon
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The two literally have bugged shared talents lmao

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That's why they are 'alike'

olive ember
spice veldt
ebon jolt
olive ember
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Hence taking both smite nodes buffs surge staff target cap to 3 and 10% more damage once hit

taking empowered psionics lets surge staff deal +125% damage

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Surge without bug is kinda… mid

lethal lagoon
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Overpowering souls also seems bugged. I don't get empowered charges from elite kills.

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I wonder if that's related to surge getting affected by the talent

olive ember
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Is it? I get it from elite kills

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You hitting specialists instead?

lethal lagoon
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I don't

dense bramble
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How much do you want to use assail?

olive ember
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Uh lemme try it out again when I get home

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Maybe I’m just lucky

lethal lagoon
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I'll try again in the pysch, maybe I'm blind

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But crushers wern't giving it to me

olive ember
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Then use voidstrike to delete said crushers and maulers

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Win

past brook
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holy crap, I can 1-shot crushers now with my psyker's mk4 dueling sword with a headshot crit while disrupt destiny and scrier's gaze are up

dense bramble
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So you just want it for crushers etc. Void is better for me because more theoretical damage no ammo but revolver is faster.

olive ember
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You want to use assail for everything besides crushers

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Just throw the shit out of it basically

lethal lagoon
dense bramble
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I hate new assail. They made it feel slow and shitty but do basically just as much damage

olive ember
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What?

dense bramble
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I wish theyd just give you 5 shots with old performance

olive ember
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New assail is the same

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Just spam lmb

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It’s only 50 less damage lol

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, it's exactly the same, I don't understand.

dense bramble
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It just feels worse to me

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Slower rate of fire

olive ember
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Are you rmb spamming?

dense bramble
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No

olive ember
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They didn’t change rate of fire

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Did they?

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I’ll try it out when I get back home but if they did nerf RoF then it’s a hidden change and fucking stupid

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Nerf the capacity and shard regen not make it fucking BB 2.0

olive ember
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But Ill run it back and see, because most people says it doesn’t feel like assail got changed at all in terms of lmb spamming

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@spice veldt you run assail a lot ye? Does it feel different

ebon jolt
tiny timber
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you only really feel the difference on ragers and gunners

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but the secondary is much stronger now

olive ember
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Well ragers got a health buff

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Dunno bout gunners

spice veldt
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if anyone want to compare, it was ~0.2s to shoot the first shard after pressing LMB and then ~0.33s for the 2nd shard

nimble adder
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how is smite and assail after patch 14?

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are they better? or worse now?

olive ember
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Smite is undertuned but using it with empowered psionics buffs surge staff for like double damage

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General consensus is that Assail feels the exact same except it’s rmb is stronger now but someone felt the RoF is slower and I haven’t tested it yet

pale pilot
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eh, assail now sometimes needs to twoshot a trashmob or melee mob now

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largely the same but i've had more than a few situations where it didn't do quite enough compared to previous

spice veldt
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i'll have to be more mindful of my malefic momentum stacks 😔

ebon jolt
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Oof. Yeah Scab Rager now takes 3 BR to kill at base. You're right that feels pretty bad.

olive ember
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Is it 3?

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No way

dim parrot
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ayo siblings, if u did all the contracts, do u have to wait until they reset to get new ones?

olive ember
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Wait

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Make another character

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Teehee

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And re gear it

ebon jolt
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With just BR and no other talent bonueses.

dim parrot
ebon jolt
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Adding in Warp Rider reduces BRs from 3 to 2.

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Which, let's be honest, everyone takes in every build anyways.

dim parrot
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shit

dense bramble
olive ember
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Tbh i don’t even care about contracts anymore

ebon jolt
dense bramble
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Why even leave it in the game if its this shit

slate oasis
dense bramble
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Who uses BB unironically?

olive ember
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I do with my purge staff build

dim parrot
olive ember
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Cuz anti armor

dense bramble
olive ember
dense bramble
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I just take deimos for anti armor with my purg build

olive ember
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So BB was specifically for long range sniping or crushers

dense bramble
olive ember
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Pretty sure it did

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Granted normally I have buffs up like warp charges

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N warp rider

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Etc etc

slate oasis
ebon jolt
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BR can 1 shot shotgunners and scab gunner at base. Dreg gunner takes 2 at base. 1 with Warp Rider.

dim parrot
olive ember
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What I ran for purge

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I’d swap elite for aura now tho btw

analog agate
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surge staff is hilarious lmao

winter magnet
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ok am i high or was shield already the best ability for psyker?

analog agate
winter magnet
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my psyker is only like 30(+25ish) so idk

olive ember
winter magnet
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and it just got mad buffs

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that's wild

olive ember
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Well it got more hp and duration which is cool and it got QoL

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Because the deploy time on it was apparently ass

spice veldt
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and the CDR regenning while the shield is up

olive ember
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I mean shield had the stupid warp charge bug that got fixed

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Idk tho I kinda like shriek cuz that means more staff and assail spamming

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And more fire

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And aoe push is always stronk

spice veldt
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i'm surprised that they bumped the maximum duration up

steel flame
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Flat shield is entertaining for trolling specials

winter magnet
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shriek is good for sure

spice veldt
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flamers and trappers have no rights while you're inside the dome shield

winter magnet
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yea

spice veldt
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just immediately denying two annoying specials from doing their thing is very neat

winter magnet
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  • all forms of guns
frigid sparrow
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How's the Mk IV DS? I got one with melk bucks here with Shred 3 and Rampage 3

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Could be fun to play with

winter magnet
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I love the mk4

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by far my favorite psyker melee

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stab stab stab stab stab

echo light
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absolute GOATED weapon imo

spice veldt
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the british advocated for buffs to the duelling sword

echo light
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one hits mutants to the head, along with basically every other elite, can one hit maulers and ragers if you crit

olive ember
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Well turns out discord mobile UI is getting changed and it’s apparently dogshit so

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Rip

winter magnet
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mobile discord stinky

echo light
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the only way to make the sword even more cracked would be if the light attacks were just flat horizontal sweeps

echo light
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You can revert it in settings can't you

steel flame
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It's fuckin terrible

olive ember
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Nvrm you can revert it

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According to my friends

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Discord mobile is saved

steel flame
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Tell me how

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I must revert this trash

echo light
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under appearances

blissful glade
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Psyker Siblings, are we Assail mains still eating good?

true veldt
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Is there something up with surge staff?

echo light
steel flame
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Oh thank god

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Sweet relief

true veldt
steel flame
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I loved the sliding WHY DID THEY GET RID OF SLIDING FIR HUNTING THROUGH TABS

orchid shadow
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Wait, is it really double for that bug?

steel flame
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Discord is poopoo

lethal lagoon
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125%, so more than double.

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I think

steel flame
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No I'm happy with old layout

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I don't have to hunt for everything like in the new setup

lethal lagoon
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Anyways, the bug has made it clear how underperforming surge was because it doesn't even feel that overtunned atm.

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Needs like a 50-60% damage buff with the bug fix

steel flame
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Putting severs at the bottom of the page is stupid

true veldt
lethal lagoon
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At least that's where the smite buff comes from, and smite is in a pretty nice spot right now.

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It's great for mixed hordes, stuns the elites while killing the mobs. Seems like it's working as intended.

olive ember
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AND EVERYONE LAUGHED

steel flame
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Ha

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Hahaahahahahahaha

olive ember
unique mist
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it charges faster than voidstrike, doesn't do as much damage and can't hit weakspots but it has in built crit bonuses

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can stop a charging mutant in its tracks

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it did need a buff

spare light
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Someone help me, I'm leveling a stabby zealot and it's too damn fun

olive ember
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Uh stabby zealot?

unique mist
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you are allowed to have fun on other classes

blissful glade
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Heretic.

olive ember
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Wat build

quasi junco
spare light
analog agate
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no crab walk anymore, but illisi is great once more. Well, greaterer than patch 13

ebon jolt
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Just in case anyone is interested here is a table I put together for the new BR breakpoints:

quasi junco
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lol gross

olive ember
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But yeah all the zealot abilities are pretty nice

spare light
sage flower
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so is assail still kinda busted on damnation?

spare light
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blitz being throwing knives

olive ember
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🤔 revolver is pretty nice idk about knife

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Oh blitz throwing knives

olive ember
spare light
olive ember
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Oh

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It can work just don’t run bleed

spare light
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I can one shot a crusher on damnation at level 23 so shrug

olive ember
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I’d have to ask zealot chat what the knife blessings are

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Something something uncanny strike

spare light
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Uncanny & bleed apparently

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It's a good build for clutching, stealth reviving & shit

sage flower
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what makes assail so busted

olive ember
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You using the pinned comment? Idk if it’s updated

spare light
olive ember
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You throw 6 and everything dies

echo turtle
olive ember
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That’s interesting build

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Anyone have assail clip

spare light
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I'm just leveling rn so

olive ember
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Oh Arco is here

spice veldt
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assail's raw DPS isn't impressive, but it has essentially 100% accuracy, can hit 3 targets (that aren't carapace), and has no damage falloff

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i have no assail clips cuz I've just been playing duelling sword psyker

spare light
echo turtle
olive ember
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Maybe full on backstab build but generally even on zealot you go for like uncanny no

spare light
sage flower
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yeah, i'd love to see a clip of current assail on damnation, if there is one

spare light
olive ember
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Oh yeah def

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Tho knife is a B tier weapon rn according to the zealot tryhards

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Not that I can say anything I just run hsword and win

spare light
olive ember
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Martyrdom hsword build and victory

lethal lagoon
echo turtle
spare light
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I felt like everyone LOVES horde clearing so I figured I'd go for something else

olive ember
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I suppose for backstab builds

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Tho idk how often you are backstabbing crusher packs

lethal lagoon
echo turtle
olive ember
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Ik the reasoning is that max uncanny strike also gives 120% but the buff falls off before you can get behind the enemy or wte

echo turtle
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For psyker you want uncanny to deal with fighting ragers, maulers and crushers since you can't rely on getting behind them

olive ember
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Tho tbh I don’t use knife that much either way

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Since normally when I wanna go for big damage I run thammer

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I need to run crusher a bit more but

echo turtle
spice oar
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Knife on psyker kinda slaps

echo turtle
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Yeah it's good

olive ember
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Martyrdom crusher build maybe idk

spice oar
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Like the back stab a lot

olive ember
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I kinda wanna run crit crusher but it’s got no blessings or stats to facilitate it feels like

echo turtle
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It allows the psyker to actually run down a trapper

spice oar
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And if I'm running gunker the movement speed buffs stacking with the heavy sprint makes me actually the flash

echo turtle
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Yeah, it's not as strong as the dueling sword, but it's slighter faster with the heavy lunges. The block strike is also incredibly good

olive ember
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Yeah tho a bit gimmicky cuz of peril gen

spare light
olive ember
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Yeah

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Thammer needs a bunch of stats

echo turtle
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Also, lacerate allows you to apply bleed damage, which means you can apply a powerful DOT to bosses

acoustic osprey
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powerful department of transportation

spare light
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also speedy zealot + knife = zoomin'

acoustic osprey
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are we still nexus and surge for void?

echo turtle
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Yes

spice oar
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Yeah

spare light
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It's one of the possibilities

pale pilot
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did handcannon get fixed or does it still always apply?

spare light
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I think it's not fixed

acoustic osprey
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lol i said this prefacing with "imo" and i was just told my opinion is wrong KEKW_ogryn

olive ember
acoustic osprey
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what about perks for void? it seems like everything talked about "void" today was just about blessings and general where it's at balance wise

olive ember
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What

spare light
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Carapace

olive ember
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Void assail is literally the go to

upper galleon
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holy shit bugged surge

olive ember
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Void for carapace

upper galleon
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feels so great

spare light
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If you run crit build with surge you go crit chance

olive ember
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Assail for everything else

upper galleon
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i'm going smite surge and it is so good

spare light
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if you don't run surge you can go flak or maniac

spare light
upper galleon
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idk what kinda of fatshark coding where +1 smite targets AND EP affects surge staff if you take smite

acoustic osprey
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i have an old one locked unyielding and carapace, so i'll just use that for now

upper galleon
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but i'll take it

upper galleon
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(I take cdr aura cause it lets me get vent AND the talent that gives you ranged dodge on crit)

spare light
long wharf
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Smite doesn't feel good to use yet

upper galleon
spare light
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but why take less peril gain and do 6 shots when you can have more peril gain and kill in 2 shots

upper galleon
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great if slow anti horde

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basically on par with a hammer

long wharf
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it generates too much peril

upper galleon
spare light
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I actually blew up with smite yday

upper galleon
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and with EP on it does considerable damage

long wharf
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so what? you stop smiting when that happens

spice oar
long wharf
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oof, no, the damage Smite does is not "considerable"

spare light
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Smite with EP is nice , I agree

upper galleon
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it is now

spice oar
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Just run it with venting shriek, kill hordes

spice oar
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Had that shit on speed dial

upper galleon
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EP+ two -5% peril generation talent+ chance to quell on kill

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and venting shriek too

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not fast, but it is about on par with poor clear melee options and incredibly safe

long wharf
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you aren't killing fast enough with Smite for that 10% chance to quell on kill to be meaningful

upper galleon
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like crucis hammer horde clear

long wharf
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I tried

spare light
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I like Crucic Hammer but the short time I used it I kept getting interrupted on heavy swings

upper galleon
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I get an extra 50% peril out of it, 70% if i'm lucky

upper galleon
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thy wrath be swift stops you from being interrupted

spare light
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You mean this right?

upper galleon
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under throwing knife i believe?

coarse bane
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Is this good for a pysker build?

spare light
upper galleon
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and zealots can go sideways on a lot of their tree so you can pick it up on any build

spare light
upper galleon
spare light
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I didn't realise that stopped you from losing heavy swings, good to know, thanks

coarse bane
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My first 380 pull. Was pretty excited.

olive ember
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Smites damage is decent against horde enemies with EP

analog agate
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Just played with a psyker who was using Arco's build. It... definitely didn't work for him lmao

olive ember
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Won’t comment about anything else

upper galleon
olive ember
spare light
analog agate
steel flame
olive ember
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Do you remember who was asking for Arco’s build kekw

steel flame
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No

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I don't even remember what arco's build is

analog agate
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this guy quit eraly im still playing the game

brittle timber
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can i save this? im assuming not

ebon jolt
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Wow. I surprised. Columbus IAG is pretty good now.

copper torrent
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has anyone done EP surge breakpoints, before I waste plasteel trying out different perks?

upper galleon
spare light
upper galleon
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yea you are left with one bad perk

ornate hamlet
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what are you trying after the patch? i appreciate it, hope all is well and thanks!

upper galleon
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if you don't have an illisi it is fine

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i'd say swap sprint efficiency to a perk

olive ember
brittle timber
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i probs could shoot for another one

copper torrent
upper galleon
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there is a bug currently where smite +1 talents and smite EP is affecting surge staff

olive ember
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2 shot crushers if you crit

ornate hamlet
olive ember
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Uh does it one shot maulers?

raven wyvern
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did they remove the infinite smite with the one skill tree upgrade?

olive ember
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2 - 3 shot mutants depending on crit

upper galleon
olive ember
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2 shot crusher if you crit

upper galleon
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it's more damage and faster spreading now

raven wyvern
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dMnnn it was working last night 😦 sad

spare light
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I'm glad they removed inf smite

inner pilot
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is headpopping alot better now?

upper galleon
upper galleon
olive ember
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Oh ffs I’ll check bugged surge staff breakpoints later

spare light
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I still feel smite needs a lil bit more oompf

ebon jolt
brittle timber
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200k got me these... which pill do i take

olive ember
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Main thing is you can actually 2 shot crushers with a crit

inner pilot
# upper galleon yee

can it oneshot any bigger mobs with the perks that increase its damage n shit?

upper galleon
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last game with it

olive ember
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One crit is like 2.4k damage so

dense bramble
olive ember
ornate hamlet
olive ember
upper galleon
olive ember
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With double damage you can two shot a crusher if you crit

spare light
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oh right, I don't have + carapace on it

orchid shadow
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I was just testing it out in the gym. With the bug, it almost 1 shots an armored Rager with no crit. Without it, it takes 3 no crits.

upper galleon
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EP you can chain special and elite kills together with very low cost

olive ember
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I don’t have carapace either but I haven’t tested my own damage Tbf

brittle timber
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wtfe...

olive ember
upper galleon
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i have cara unyielding on mine

spare light
olive ember
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For peril edging

upper galleon
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i think unyielding is fine for bulwarks, reapers and monsters which whne you are going surge smite, surge is the only ranged option

surreal eagle
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I had some fun testing the dueling sword buffs. But I like
my Achlys Mk VIII axe even more now since the true aim perk.
Axe (easy headshots) + surge VS = guaranteed surge crit up all the time

olive ember
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That’s my main issue

brittle timber
orchid shadow
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I only use Surge so this is gonna feel weird until it's fixed. And then sad after. 😦

brittle timber
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awesome

olive ember
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Surge smite gives me no range bleh

upper galleon
olive ember
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Surge needs it’s damage buffed either way so

unique mist
brittle timber
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what blessings should i get on the illisi?

olive ember
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dies of cringe

unique mist
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but yeah i felt that too when i was running surge smite yesterday

upper galleon
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surge has a pretty long lock on range now but yea

olive ember
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Eh surge staff CC is more inconsistent now

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You gotta crit to stun mutie

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Which is bleh

unique mist
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didnt see them buff it in the patch so

upper galleon
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enemies in the distance you need to either use a fully peril'd vent or a primary fire bolt

spare light
brittle timber
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kk

ornate hamlet
upper galleon
orchid shadow
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Not really, it just takes 2 not crits to stun a mutant. It charges fast enough for that.

brittle timber
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thank you

unique mist
spare light
upper galleon
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not something i'd take surge smite into

ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

Yeah well when the game quickplay you into sniper gauntlet

#

And you are running surge smite

brittle timber
#

It couldve been better, but i can work with this i think

spare light
ornate hamlet
#

perfect allocation @brittle timber

olive ember
#

SMH

light citrus
upper galleon
#

unless my team can pick up the slack

olive ember
#

Imagine leaving a game

unique mist
brittle timber
#

i wonder though

olive ember
#

Toxic

ornate hamlet
spare light
#

woops, wrong person

upper galleon
brittle timber
spare light
brittle timber
#

i just meant in terms of perks

olive ember
#

Simply run up to the sniper and kill them

upper galleon
brittle timber
#

i need to switch out unstable

light citrus
spare light
olive ember
#

They mean dodge as in leaving the match

upper galleon
#

esc + leave match

spare light
upper galleon
#

unless it's like, a competent team already clearing through it just fine

brittle timber
#

not sure what perk i should switch on it though

ornate hamlet
upper galleon
#

but i don't want to end up stuck waiting is a corner for 5 minutes cause no one has any anti sniper and too scare to step out

light citrus
#

Another one

spare light
upper galleon
spare light
brittle timber
upper galleon
orchid shadow
upper galleon
#

current smite surge build

light citrus
upper galleon
#

also lol lmao it should be illegal to take that many toughness talents

upper galleon
#

idk what the breakpoints are for each

spare light
spare light
unique mist
spare light
light citrus
#

should I keep this

spare light
#

Reject/Varlet

upper galleon
quasi junco
#

Even after patch I think Purgatus and Brain rupture are still my goto combo wombo

upper galleon
#

and crit nodes synergize with the crit on surge and my duelling sword

unique mist
upper galleon
#

ehh maybe

unique mist
#

at least perilous combustion

upper galleon
#

fuck you might be right wildfire+combustion

unique mist
#

especially in higher tier missions

#

so many elites

light citrus
upper galleon
#

OH shit you are right

#

thanks

unique mist
#

kek

#

np

spare light
upper galleon
ripe yacht
#

Y'all. You were right.

#

Surge/smite is a blast.

upper galleon
#

you want rending shockwave+ warp flurry, and two 25% damage perks

spare light
ripe yacht
#

Zap build is best build 😄

#

Giblets everywhere.

gaunt stone
#

Yeah they need to fix that asap.

unique mist
# light citrus

trasfer peril doesn't work on trauma charge fire which is stupid that it's even on there and terrifying barrage is a garpage perk

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that's a brick

unique mist
#

also, empowered psionics accidentally buffing surge staff damage by, what, 125%?

ripe yacht
#

Most OP build.

unique mist
#

too good

ripe yacht
#

Giblets everywhere 😄

pale pilot
#

i am happy that smite buffs apply to surge zap

#

shit's so good

ripe yacht
#

I don't even care about the damage bonus. Just the explosions are so delightful.

spare light
#

True

#

And although it doesn't matter, it feels nice not losing a kill on an elite cause you did 99% of it's HP but a team mate took the credit

ripe yacht
#

Also the surge m1 feels amazing.

orchid shadow
plush basalt
#

i see the bug with surge but it really doesnt feel that powerful., am I going crazy?

plush basalt
#

i'm running a bubble smite build into EP so yeah

olive ember
olive ember
#

And people are only realizing now that the surge staff is shit once you double the damage and go “huh it’s not that broken?”

potent moss
#

Replace run-n-gun with warp flurry?

olive ember
#

Yes

upper galleon
#

what i have rn

olive ember
#

Eh shield works but I prefer venting for safety

olive ember
#

And aoe stagger

#

And aoe fore

ripe yacht
ripe yacht
#

So. In pursuit of a better holy gib, this is the staff I'm using right now. How can I better it?

orchid shadow
upper galleon
spare light
upper galleon
#

most classes get 2 toughness regen talents anyways i'll be fineee

olive ember
#

I mean you see is it *1.25 or *(1+1.25)kekw

ripe yacht
unique mist
upper galleon
unique mist
#

oh wait

upper galleon
#

also crit on surge and my dueling sword

ripe yacht
#

Okay, I can be real greedy.

But why do you want the crit stuff?

unique mist
#

go for soul stealer

#

its significantly better than toughness on crit

ripe yacht
#

I want to know what you're thinking so I can better optimise myself 🙂

upper galleon
#

the dodge on crit helps a ton vs ranged enemies

unique mist
#

i agree there

#

i like it too

upper galleon
olive ember
#

Surge staff crit for breakpoints

upper galleon
#

from perfect timing

olive ember
#

Like I’m psure you still need to crit to hit 2 shot crusher breakpoints

ripe yacht
#

How often are you critting?

olive ember
#

Even with double damage

unique mist
olive ember
#

Could be wrong tho

fossil snow
#

surge unplayable

olive ember
#

I have to go back n check

upper galleon
#

most of time with a warp nexus surge and shred duelling sword

fossil snow
#

explodes in smite colors

ripe yacht
#

Huh.

#

Alright then.

olive ember
#

Uh if you take crit aura n nodes I think psyker can have a bit more than 15% global crit and with nexus that’s +30%

upper galleon
#

basically immune to range fire

olive ember
#

So you crit like 45% of the time if built for it

ripe yacht
#

Can't take crit aura 😦

Opposite side of Shriek.

upper galleon
#

can't take crit aura and venting

#

it sucks

plush basalt
upper galleon
#

go farther down into EP

#

don't take quell speed

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or the increased aura size

#

uhh surge doesnt hit weakspots so that is bad too

plush basalt
olive ember
upper galleon
#

don't need mind in motion

olive ember
#

Perilous combustion

plush basalt
#

whats the point of going farther down if EP just sits there?

upper galleon
#

true aim does nothing

olive ember
#

Alright so

unique mist
upper galleon
#

so you can chain elite kills back to back to back

#

surge uses smite EP

#

for some reason

upper galleon
long wharf
#

did Fatshark up the peril generation of Assail?

upper galleon
#

a shelf fell on my head

long wharf
#

or increase the peril quell delay of Assail?

unique mist
long wharf
#

feels like I'm actively quelling more frequently with Assail now

unique mist
#

did you switch off warp charges

upper galleon
long wharf
#

I was using my EP+Assail setup

upper galleon
#

simply too good

long wharf
#

going to test with WS+Assail now

upper galleon
#

probably the damage nerf

long wharf
#

no, I don't spam Assail mindlessly

olive ember
# plush basalt https://i.imgur.com/5KE9KHV.png

Alright so you want perilous combustion because 3 burn stacks per elite/special kill is rly strong especially with something like surge… 6 fire stacks will kill all horde enemies, even more will just melt everything short of crushers

Get rid of mind in motion ngl that’s 2 points elsewhere

Replace 5% damage aura for CDR. The 5% damage is kinda not that good anymore

Personally I’d take AB for shriek for more fire and horde clear

upper galleon
#

so you get less EP procs and less battle mediation procs overall

long wharf
#

I use Assail very deliberately

spice veldt
#

10% peril per shard pre-patch 14

olive ember
#

If they did it’s a hidden change

lethal lagoon
#

So I just ran the bugged surge on a melee maelstrom, I might as well have soloed it. I think that's enough smite psyker till the next patch.

plush basalt
upper galleon
#

also when you take CDR aura you can take dodge ranged enemies on crit

olive ember
upper galleon
#

which is super OP

spice veldt
#

it was 10%

upper galleon
spice veldt
#

and 25% for the RMB

upper galleon
#

surge uses EP charges for some reason

#

and having 3 max charges+ guaranteed charges on elite kills

#

is a must

plush basalt
#

ah

pale pilot
#

does psychic leeching actually trigger if the charge isn't spent when you use surgestaff?

olive ember
#

Surge doesn’t use EP charges

upper galleon
#

you get the bonuses

#

you might not get the toughness

lethal lagoon
#

Surge get's the effect from EP charges, not uses it though

olive ember
#

Yes but you don’t use the charges

pale pilot
#

surge benefits from EP but doesn't spend charges

upper galleon
#

but you swap to smite for hordes and shit

#

ahh i see

unique mist
upper galleon
#

lol that is more broken

spice veldt
past brook
#

surge staff gets smite bonuses, makes sense that it also would use EP charges lol

plush basalt
#

if you take it off you can get solidity

upper galleon
#

eehh i still use smite for stuff, like if a teammate is getting swarmed by ragers

unique mist
upper galleon
#

probably cause less damage= less battle mediation and EP charges

unique mist
upper galleon
#

overall

unique mist
#

i.e. BB and assail

pale pilot
#

yeah even with surgesmite, i find myself swapping between the two because i want cc or killing depending on the situation

unique mist
#

do you reckon warp charges or empowered psionics is better for a soulblaze BB build. EP would up damage and cast speed of BB but warp charges would let me spam shriek more often for the 75% faster charges

long wharf
#

soulblaze is best served when you can take advantage of things being on warpfire

unique mist
#

also grinded yesterday to finish the "get 200 elite/special kills with brain burst while at maximum warp charges" and it was pain

long wharf
#

it depends on what you want to focus on

olive ember
#

Soulblaze BB build specifically?

unique mist
#

yeah

olive ember
#

Eh probably psionics to buff BB damage

unique mist
#

might make two builds then

olive ember
#

But in reality if you want to spread fire you will be using trauma or purge

#

And at that point use warp charges

unique mist
#

-peril gen % nodes?

olive ember
#

Might be how then

orchid shadow
olive ember
#

Oh

light citrus
#

My Build

unique mist
steel flame
olive ember
spice veldt
#

no perilous combustion or true aim i cri

pale pilot
unique mist
olive ember
#

Warp charges CDR gives more fire

steel flame
olive ember
#

Actually I should probably preface this by saying that I haven’t run purge and BB since this patch

pale pilot
#

ah damn, lost track of names

#

bluh

light citrus
#

yes you can if you are not using deflector

olive ember
#

So maybe BB sucks now and needs psionics to make it not suck

long wharf
#

there's no good reason to not get True Aim with anything that can crit

#

well, with anything that can hit weakspots

olive ember
orchid shadow
spice veldt
#

i consider it pretty nothingburgers

raw oriole
#

Can Brain Burst/Rupture crit?

steel flame
#

No

olive ember
#

Like weapons n stuff that’s a pretty odd tree

light citrus
#

both

olive ember
spice veldt
#

you can test it by seeing if they consume True Aim stacks

light citrus
#

If you are skillful use this to max your DPS

olive ember
steel flame
long wharf
#

well no, neither of those can hit weakspots

#

but if you use Assail, you absolutely should get True Aim

olive ember
#

Perilous combustions is pretty much a must take imo

#

Unless you are only fighting crushers all game

spice veldt
#

uncanny strike + perilous combustion wink wink

olive ember
#

Lmao

spice veldt
#

rending shockwave + perilous combustion wink wink

olive ember
#

Rending shockwave true

steel flame
#

Rending fire go whoooooosh

spice veldt
#

i wonder what synergies will arise from rending + perilous combustion

spice veldt
#

surely perilous combustion is not absolutely fucking busted on melee maelstrom

steel flame
#

So busted

olive ember
long wharf
#

Assail + Perilous Combustion would be funny

spice veldt
#

trajedy

olive ember
steel flame
spice veldt
#

"soulblaze doesn't do damage" mfs when the soulblaze ticks start doing 534 damage

long wharf
#

honestly, right now I wish I could go Assail+Shriek+Surge Staff

slate oasis
#

probably been asked a million times today, but why is one of the assail crystals occasionally purple now?

steel flame
#

Crits

long wharf
#

that's an EP crystal

dense crow
royal falcon
potent moss
#

I don't have EP and get purple crystals

long wharf
#

the surge bug is surge + EP

olive ember
#

It’s surge + smite + EP

slate oasis
#

yeah I have warp siphon and was seeing the purple crystal

long wharf
#

but there's no reason to use Surge staff without the Smite upgrade nodes

light citrus
#

My CC build

potent moss
#

Some of us were using surge last patch even though it was dogshit

olive ember
long wharf
olive ember
#

So you need specifically smite psure

olive ember
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Some people still think it is good

#

Like without the bug

long wharf
#

you could use Surge without Smite, but you wouldn't be getting the extra target and damage buff on enemies you Surge

steel flame
olive ember
#

So voidstrike is better

steel flame
olive ember
#

Could also run transfer peril on voidstrike

#

Transfer peril + surge lmb spam voidstrike build

#

Imagine using surge staff for lmb lmao

light citrus
olive ember
#

Transfer peril?

orchid shadow
spare light
#

Why is it so damn fun playing a stabby religious stealth goblin?

rigid garden
#

Is the obscurus worth using yet? The buffs looked decent

spare light
#

Want swipey? Go Illisi. Want stabby? Go Deimos

olive ember
#

The buffs are global across all force swords and mostly to account for slaughterer nerfs and health changes

upper galleon
#

well maybe

cyan notch
#

wow

upper galleon
#

err 25% damage helps a ton tho

cyan notch
#

derpy not shilling obscurus

#

how the turn tables

rigid garden
#

Too bad, though I'm not terribly surprised. Yeah that moveset is awkward

olive ember
#

It’ll get buffed one day

#

And then it will be META

#

And you’ll regret abandoning it smh

cyan notch
olive ember
#

;-;

#

Well anyways surge staff damage should’ve been doubled

#

Vindication

upper galleon
#

i think 5% on staff is only for stuff like blazing or surge (blessing)

lethal folio
#

Deimos is a bit insane now

#

Also unmentioned in notes, the force sword push fling is now 10m

upper galleon
#

otherwise, much better to have 25% damage on crits to an armor type than 5% more crit chance overall

spice veldt
#

holy shit time to see it for myself

unique mist
#

send a vid

olive ember
upper galleon
#

i've been using duelling sword

spice veldt
#

have to download the update first :pensive:

light citrus
unique mist
#

😔

lethal folio
#

10m fling and bonus crazy stagger on deimos.

spice veldt
#

whewww

rigid garden
#

"take a seat kid"

spice veldt
#

uncanny strike push-attack doing damage lamayo

#

THE RANGED ATTACK MELEE IS REAAAAL

unique mist
lethal folio
acoustic osprey
#

bad distribution?

#

void

lethal folio
#

great

unique mist
unique mist
lethal folio
#

Deimos stagger needs to be reigned in for sure.

unique mist
#

is it only on deimos?

lethal folio
#

it's actually a problem because it flings them too far.

slate oasis
lethal folio
#

The super stab is what does it.

true lake
#

is the patch any good?

acoustic osprey
#

god damn, warp nexus t4 only thing i'm missing for void

unique mist
#

luckily the difference in tiers for warp nexus isn't that big

#

i am fine with a t3 warp nexus on my staffs

acoustic osprey
#

ye but i wanna catch'em all

unique mist
#

it goes from 4.5-18% to 5-20%, just 0.5-2%

#

less than a crit chance perk

long wharf
#

okay definitely something up with Assail's peril gen/delay

olive ember
acoustic osprey
#

nothing else to dow ith my mats anyways

long wharf
#

it's not that I'm throwing more, it's that I'm having to actively quell more

olive ember
#

Maybe less damage means less empowered psionics stack

long wharf
#

that last run was with WS

fossil snow
long wharf
#

and I used the bubble shield only twice

spice veldt
#

same peril gen in the psykhanium at least

olive ember
#

What about quell delay and quell speed

long wharf
#

hrm, maybe it's just a feeling, then

acoustic osprey
#

is fire trauma still a thing?

olive ember
#

I have to go n check

olive ember
long wharf
#

I definitely feel like I'm quelling more slowly

#

something feels off/different

olive ember
#

It’s probably the 2nd strongest build after voidstrike

spice veldt
#

i can still spam the 1st shard relatively quickly

lethal folio
#

assail right click has really sluggish chains

acoustic osprey
#

flurry is no no, right?

long wharf
#

maybe the delay between activating active quell and the quell acceleration rate?

spice veldt
#

with LMB -> quell -> lmb -> quell

true lake
#

patch says they didnt change the quell rate of assail

#

only difference should be M1 does less damage and M2 does more

long wharf
#

oh you sweet summer child.

#

this is Fatshark

olive ember
true lake
#

im just saying what the patch says lol

acoustic osprey
olive ember
#

Yeah no don’t listen to it

true lake
#

i cant look into their minds and see what they did that wasnt reported

lethal folio
#

Trauma has loads of blessing options now.

olive ember
long wharf
#

they don't know object oriented programming, let alone their own systems

acoustic osprey
#

yeah, but i was asking about fire trauma

#

i have this for reg

lethal folio
#

I like surge/nexus trauma

olive ember
long wharf
#

@spice veldt what's your soulblaze+Assail build look like?

lethal folio
#

throw out tonnes of bolts at range, keep the defensive shockwave for melee

olive ember
#

Half the time I doubt they even realize what they’re doing

acoustic osprey
olive ember
#

Like patch 12 or wte said that they changed psykinetic shield to be based on warp charge or wte the fuck

unique mist
olive ember
#

No it fucking wasn’t

lethal folio
#

Fire trauma is probably the best way to use blaze shriek.

acoustic osprey
#

nexus for 2nd blessing tho, right? to proc it more

lethal folio
#

It doesn't work on the shockwave, but doubling your bolts which fire fast and have +60% crit rate is strong.

long wharf
#

also - for Void, is damage dealt directly tied to impact/stagger dealt?

olive ember
#

You won’t like it kekw

lethal folio
#

Purgatus isn't good with blaze because it can't generate peril

olive ember
#

He runs blazing spirit with rending shockwave/focused channeling

long wharf
#

because I couldn't stagger-lock a chaos demon the last run

olive ember
#

Tho daemonhost is like

lethal folio
#

Blazing trauma applies blaze in a huge area, which fuels kills to warp charges to cdr

long wharf
#

reeeeeee

olive ember
#

Is daemonhost staggerable with void in general?

lethal folio
#

You do a blaze shriek after trauma blaze and you now have 9 stacks on everything in the room./

long wharf
#

not daemonhost, the chaos rapey demon

spice veldt
unique mist
olive ember
unique mist
spice veldt
#

the darktides

long wharf
#

ew, why would you bother with DD?

unique mist
#

YES

olive ember
#

Should be able to dunno if you can stagger lock it cuz you gotta fish for voidstrike surge crits

acoustic osprey
unique mist
lethal folio
#

In fire reborn only cares if the enemy dies while on fire.

spice veldt
spice veldt
#

I sometimes run a keystoneless build

olive ember
#

Ew

unique mist
olive ember
unique mist
#

you should see his greedy toughness node builds

olive ember
#

I would not recommend unless you are unhinged

#

Like Arco

olive ember
hard solstice
#

which force sword is the one that DOESN'T get stuck in a single target on powrred attack, but just goes through multiple enemies, kinda like the power sword on vet. I could swear one works that way ive used before, but now i cant figure out which one for the life of me

olive ember
#

It’s disgusting 🤮

spice veldt
#

yeah let me go take banger options like +50% dodge duration (doesn't work properly) or mind in motion (press spacebar)

acoustic osprey
#

i think he was the one i saw fire trauma build

lethal folio
#

Staff left clicks shoot quite fast now.

spice veldt
#

I run blazing spirit trauma yeah, but that's because I don't care about my ranged weapon at all

#

I just run blitz + melee all the time, like I did pre-patch 13

#

i am just completely uninterested in the staff options that we have

#

they're all just mechanically dogshit to me

hard solstice
unique mist
#

it doesnt

acoustic osprey
#

i can see that

spice veldt
#

you're confusing it with another force sword then

acoustic osprey
#

still i think blazing spirit trauma is fun

unique mist
#

obscurus and deimos share the same single target warp attack

lethal folio
#

Illisi will still get stopped by carapace or enough mass.

olive ember
#

That’s what I run

#

Idk wtf Arco is running ngl

unique mist
#

man i tried blaze trauma staff last week and hated how it played

olive ember
#

It probably works cuz it’s Arco but

spice veldt
#

cuz i'm basically running assail + melee build

unique mist
#

stop trying to gaslight me into running it again

spice veldt
#

I think my skill tree is fairly rational if you just ignore your ranged weapon

olive ember
#

Lmao

unique mist
olive ember
spice veldt
#

no, because they don't glow lamayo

#

I can't chase them because marked targets just don't glow

olive ember
#

Arco is just weird

unique mist
#

i can just imagine arc charging past a horde to kill the glowing DD enemy

spice veldt
#

i would neverrrr