#psyker-class
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Yes they did nerf it, no it doesn’t matter
oh they nerfed void strike from stupid op to normal op
17th time asking this. But does anybody know how to fix keybindings resetting everytime I close the game
I never changed keybinds so
did you set user_settings.config to read only?
Coding dies of cringe
Aren’t you an Econ major smh
i'm a comp eng major
No I have not, follow up question do I have to turn off read only everytime I change a setting
Dance bruh
dies of cringe help me with my hw then
no
does this revolver passive only apply to the revolver? or if I pull out assail it'll benefit from it?
Why won’t you implement A*
and its ruined isnt it... ?
i basically did all of my math and general ed courses early on, so my programming knowledge is very peepee poopoo
….
Crucian roulette does not apply to assail
It’s won’t be min maxed but
god damn my fcking rolls are so bad
If you get a decent 2nd blessing
usable, but wouldnt bring it into damnation
You can still have a decent purge
does it at least apply to melee? or only revolver?
Not the run n gun
Bro that’s the wrong move lmao
Your senior year is gonna be hell
You want to take all the hard courses at the end?
😔
i was preparing for a transfer so I did all of those early on, but I changed my mind at the end
Look at me dying but I’m taking shit like public speaking in senior year
No, it only applies to the ranged weapon and only when you actively have the range weapon equipped. It was a bug awhile back and they fixed it because the crit rate was applying to everything
To fulfill general Ed reqs
Bro if I didn’t double major I could’ve graduated last year
Why did I take a double major
Fuck me
The darktide crafting system is
sadly they removed infinite dodge but def feel more damage
Well it’s looter shooter crafting
It’s literally fucking looter shooter with the colors the fucking affix locking
lol im surprised infinite dodge was there to begin with
hello infinite demonhost kiting
It’s not even the first time I had this revelation but holy shit it tilts me whenever I’m reminded that darktide’s crafting is literally lifted out of a looter shooter game
hey guys, whats best blessings and perks on surge staff?
i prefer it to vt2 crafting tho
i run flurry and nexus tho the only one id really say you have to take is flurry
Blessings you want nexus flurry
just cuz faster chained is better
thx 🙂
idk bout perks tho
Some people mentioned flak and maniac
What do we think of new force swords?
Psure with the double damage bug you want maniac and unyielding
i like em, but it feels like the illisi combos are a bit off in timing
prolly just me
What do you think of force swords now
What's the double damage bug?
They buffed damage didnt they
yea, headshot damage feels a lot better rn
Surge staff without bug is kinda weak
Ngl though Id give it back for infinidodge
They should just keep this bug
Remove bug and buff surge damage by like 50%, seems fitting.
Well they should make the surge staff have +100% damage by default and make smite and surge staff rmb not be the same thing
So you lose the 3rd target, you lose the +10% damage from the smite nodes
With the bug the 2nd and 3rd target do quite a lot of damage now, it's wild
wym? the two arent alike aside from stagger
surge does pretty respectable damage when charged
They are both considered smite for wte reason so anything that buffs smite also buffs surge rmb
i haven't used them yet so I can't say for now
What I really want is for them to tone down the VFX on the FS block. That shits going to give someone a seizure someday.
Hence taking both smite nodes buffs surge staff target cap to 3 and 10% more damage once hit
taking empowered psionics lets surge staff deal +125% damage
Surge without bug is kinda… mid
Overpowering souls also seems bugged. I don't get empowered charges from elite kills.
I wonder if that's related to surge getting affected by the talent
I don't
How much do you want to use assail?
Spam it against everything besides crushers and maulers
Then use voidstrike to delete said crushers and maulers
Win
holy crap, I can 1-shot crushers now with my psyker's mk4 dueling sword with a headshot crit while disrupt destiny and scrier's gaze are up
So you just want it for crushers etc. Void is better for me because more theoretical damage no ammo but revolver is faster.
You want to use assail for everything besides crushers
Just throw the shit out of it basically
It worked in the pysch, I'll watch in the game agan, I swear it wasn't working. Maybe the talent tree was wonky, I've been having issues with it today.
I hate new assail. They made it feel slow and shitty but do basically just as much damage
What?
I wish theyd just give you 5 shots with old performance
Yeah, it's exactly the same, I don't understand.
Are you rmb spamming?
No
They didn’t change rate of fire
Did they?
I’ll try it out when I get back home but if they did nerf RoF then it’s a hidden change and fucking stupid
Nerf the capacity and shard regen not make it fucking BB 2.0
Right?
But Ill run it back and see, because most people says it doesn’t feel like assail got changed at all in terms of lmb spamming
@spice veldt you run assail a lot ye? Does it feel different
you only really feel the difference on ragers and gunners
but the secondary is much stronger now
haven't been playing yet 😔
if anyone want to compare, it was ~0.2s to shoot the first shard after pressing LMB and then ~0.33s for the 2nd shard
Smite is undertuned but using it with empowered psionics buffs surge staff for like double damage
General consensus is that Assail feels the exact same except it’s rmb is stronger now but someone felt the RoF is slower and I haven’t tested it yet
eh, assail now sometimes needs to twoshot a trashmob or melee mob now
largely the same but i've had more than a few situations where it didn't do quite enough compared to previous
i'll have to be more mindful of my malefic momentum stacks 😔
Oof. Yeah Scab Rager now takes 3 BR to kill at base. You're right that feels pretty bad.
ayo siblings, if u did all the contracts, do u have to wait until they reset to get new ones?
With just BR and no other talent bonueses.

Adding in Warp Rider reduces BRs from 3 to 2.
Which, let's be honest, everyone takes in every build anyways.
Yeah
shit
BB? It takes 2 BB for a rager?
Tbh i don’t even care about contracts anymore
Yes. I'm testing the breakpoint to see what talents are needed to 1 tap a dreg rager but I think scab rager will stay at 2 no matter what buffs you have up 😦
Why even leave it in the game if its this shit
Each character gets their own weekly contracts though
Who uses BB unironically?
I do with my purge staff build
and the money is shared?
Cuz anti armor
Does it do well enough to be worth it over assail?
I haven’t run it this patch so idk with hp buffs but in patch 13 my purge staff with AB kills most things
I just take deimos for anti armor with my purg build
So BB was specifically for long range sniping or crushers
Does it 1shot gunners?
Pretty sure it did
Granted normally I have buffs up like warp charges
N warp rider
Etc etc
Yep
BR can 1 shot shotgunners and scab gunner at base. Dreg gunner takes 2 at base. 1 with Warp Rider.
if I had known xD damn, gotta up that trust level I guess
surge staff is hilarious lmao
ok am i high or was shield already the best ability for psyker?
my psyker is only like 30(+25ish) so idk
Eh I prefer shriek but shield is pretty strong
Well it got more hp and duration which is cool and it got QoL
Because the deploy time on it was apparently ass
and the CDR regenning while the shield is up
I mean shield had the stupid warp charge bug that got fixed
Idk tho I kinda like shriek cuz that means more staff and assail spamming
And more fire
And aoe push is always stronk
i'm surprised that they bumped the maximum duration up
Flat shield is entertaining for trolling specials
shriek is good for sure
flamers and trappers have no rights while you're inside the dome shield
yea
just immediately denying two annoying specials from doing their thing is very neat
- all forms of guns
How's the Mk IV DS? I got one with melk bucks here with Shred 3 and Rampage 3
Could be fun to play with
absolute GOATED weapon imo
the british advocated for buffs to the duelling sword
one hits mutants to the head, along with basically every other elite, can one hit maulers and ragers if you crit
Well turns out discord mobile UI is getting changed and it’s apparently dogshit so
Rip
mobile discord stinky
the only way to make the sword even more cracked would be if the light attacks were just flat horizontal sweeps
I hate it.....so much
So much
You can revert it in settings can't you
It's fuckin terrible
under appearances
Psyker Siblings, are we Assail mains still eating good?
Is there something up with surge staff?
enhanced psionics is applying to the surge staff attacks and is causing double damage
Oh that's why they're wiping out hordes so quick
I loved the sliding WHY DID THEY GET RID OF SLIDING FIR HUNTING THROUGH TABS
Wait, is it really double for that bug?
Discord is poopoo
Even with old layout?
No I'm happy with old layout
I don't have to hunt for everything like in the new setup
Anyways, the bug has made it clear how underperforming surge was because it doesn't even feel that overtunned atm.
Needs like a 50-60% damage buff with the bug fix
Putting severs at the bottom of the page is stupid
Seems to me devs may be willing to look at accidents like this for tweaks
At least that's where the smite buff comes from, and smite is in a pretty nice spot right now.
It's great for mixed hordes, stuns the elites while killing the mobs. Seems like it's working as intended.
It’s almost like I’ve been saying surge staff should have it’s damage doubled
AND EVERYONE LAUGHED
well i was using it yesterday pre patch and it felt pretty damn good
it charges faster than voidstrike, doesn't do as much damage and can't hit weakspots but it has in built crit bonuses
can stop a charging mutant in its tracks
it did need a buff
Someone help me, I'm leveling a stabby zealot and it's too damn fun
Uh stabby zealot?
you are allowed to have fun on other classes
Heretic.
Wat build
lol wtf, my grandpa always said if it aint broke don't fix it
You know that one build that goes like this when shit goes bad
no crab walk anymore, but illisi is great once more. Well, greaterer than patch 13
Just in case anyone is interested here is a table I put together for the new BR breakpoints:
That’s what the new mobile UI is like apparently
Tho you can revert it thank fuck
lol gross
Oh I mean specific build
But yeah all the zealot abilities are pretty nice
Oh , I'm not fully leveled yet,but knife + revolver
so is assail still kinda busted on damnation?
blitz being throwing knives
Yes
Also combat knife
I can one shot a crusher on damnation at level 23 so 
I’d have to ask zealot chat what the knife blessings are
Something something uncanny strike
Uncanny & bleed apparently
It's a good build for clutching, stealth reviving & shit
what makes assail so busted
You using the pinned comment? Idk if it’s updated
Imagine you can shoot heat seeking missiles
It’s spammable
You throw 6 and everything dies
Backstab and mercy kill IMO is the best knife blessings
Uhhhh
That’s interesting build
Anyone have assail clip
I'm just leveling rn so
Oh Arco is here
assail's raw DPS isn't impressive, but it has essentially 100% accuracy, can hit 3 targets (that aren't carapace), and has no damage falloff
i have no assail clips cuz I've just been playing duelling sword psyker
You should make a macro of that
Oh I thought this was zealot chat. My bad. Yeah bleed/uncanny is probs the best
Maybe full on backstab build but generally even on zealot you go for like uncanny no
Nope, you're with the witches rn
yeah, i'd love to see a clip of current assail on damnation, if there is one
Yea but I don't want to waste plasteel just yet, waiting till 30
Oh yeah def
Tho knife is a B tier weapon rn according to the zealot tryhards
Not that I can say anything I just run hsword and win
I did a few damnation runs with assail psykers on my team, and I outdamaged both of them with funky surge build so
Martyrdom hsword build and victory
Do you mean today? Surge is bugged out of it's mind atm.
Not after the buff to rending backstab. It's 120% right now.
With that, I am one shotting crushers.
You already apply bleed, so mercy kill makes the most sense. You really don't need additional bleed stacks being applied as a zealot
I felt like everyone LOVES horde clearing so I figured I'd go for something else
Oh right it got buffed
Yeah, today
If you have the empowered keystone, surge does 125% more damage lmao
Yeah it's extremely good for that. One shot crushers, massive boss damage
Mercy kill is excellent for bosses
Ik the reasoning is that max uncanny strike also gives 120% but the buff falls off before you can get behind the enemy or wte
For psyker you want uncanny to deal with fighting ragers, maulers and crushers since you can't rely on getting behind them
Tho tbh I don’t use knife that much either way
Since normally when I wanna go for big damage I run thammer
I need to run crusher a bit more but
Yeah it's good, I just find it slow so it's not really my style
Knife on psyker kinda slaps
Yeah it's good
Martyrdom crusher build maybe idk
Like the back stab a lot
I kinda wanna run crit crusher but it’s got no blessings or stats to facilitate it feels like
It allows the psyker to actually run down a trapper
And if I'm running gunker the movement speed buffs stacking with the heavy sprint makes me actually the flash
Yeah, it's not as strong as the dueling sword, but it's slighter faster with the heavy lunges. The block strike is also incredibly good
Yeah tho a bit gimmicky cuz of peril gen
I wanted to run that originally but once again it's a build that shines more with levels
Also, lacerate allows you to apply bleed damage, which means you can apply a powerful DOT to bosses
powerful department of transportation
also speedy zealot + knife = zoomin'
are we still nexus and surge for void?
Yes
Yeah
It's one of the possibilities
did handcannon get fixed or does it still always apply?
I think it's not fixed
lol i said this prefacing with "imo" and i was just told my opinion is wrong 
Probably
what about perks for void? it seems like everything talked about "void" today was just about blessings and general where it's at balance wise
What
Carapace
Void assail is literally the go to
holy shit bugged surge
Void for carapace
feels so great
If you run crit build with surge you go crit chance
Assail for everything else
i'm going smite surge and it is so good
if you don't run surge you can go flak or maniac
Peril gain is nutty though, but yea, it's fun
idk what kinda of
coding where +1 smite targets AND EP affects surge staff if you take smite
i have an old one locked unyielding and carapace, so i'll just use that for now
but i'll take it
ehh, always take venting and you'll ahve cdr aura+ cdr on elite kill
(I take cdr aura cause it lets me get vent AND the talent that gives you ranged dodge on crit)
I know, but I used to run warp charges before, which reduces peril gain
Smite doesn't feel good to use yet
it does with EP imo
but why take less peril gain and do 6 shots when you can have more peril gain and kill in 2 shots
it generates too much peril
but it auto stops you at 99%
I actually blew up with smite yday
and with EP on it does considerable damage
so what? you stop smiting when that happens
I feel the same
oof, no, the damage Smite does is not "considerable"
Smite with EP is nice , I agree
Just run it with venting shriek, kill hordes
Had that shit on speed dial
EP+ two -5% peril generation talent+ chance to quell on kill
and venting shriek too
not fast, but it is about on par with poor clear melee options and incredibly safe
you aren't killing fast enough with Smite for that 10% chance to quell on kill to be meaningful
like crucis hammer horde clear
I tried
I am
I like Crucic Hammer but the short time I used it I kept getting interrupted on heavy swings
I get an extra 50% peril out of it, 70% if i'm lucky
have to take TWBS
thy wrath be swift stops you from being interrupted
I was lower level so I couldn't get it, but yea
You mean this right?
no up on the left side of tree
under throwing knife i believe?
Is this good for a pysker build?
this?
and zealots can go sideways on a lot of their tree so you can pick it up on any build

yes, the description lies, it works on ranged damage taken too
I didn't realise that stopped you from losing heavy swings, good to know, thanks
My first 380 pull. Was pretty excited.
Smites damage is decent against horde enemies with EP
Just played with a psyker who was using Arco's build. It... definitely didn't work for him lmao
Won’t comment about anything else
rip that your first target got the low stat
Alright @steel flame what did you do


I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
Do you remember who was asking for Arco’s build kekw
this guy quit eraly im still playing the game
can i save this? im assuming not
Wow. I surprised. Columbus IAG is pretty good now.
has anyone done EP surge breakpoints, before I waste plasteel trying out different perks?
change riposter to slaughterer and oof
Somewhat? If you keep it as a horde clear weapon I guess?
yea you are left with one bad perk
what are you trying after the patch? i appreciate it, hope all is well and thanks!
It’s a bug wouldn’t build a surge around the breakpoints
i probs could shoot for another one
EP smite+surge
I will, because it will take another patch for them to fix it
there is a bug currently where smite +1 talents and smite EP is affecting surge staff
2 shot crushers if you crit
thank you, what are the changes?
Uh does it one shot maulers?
did they remove the infinite smite with the one skill tree upgrade?
2 - 3 shot mutants depending on crit
uhh can't infinitely channel smite with EP, but it does real damage now and can horde clear
yes
2 shot crusher if you crit
it's more damage and faster spreading now
dMnnn it was working last night 😦 sad
I'm glad they removed inf smite
is headpopping alot better now?
wdym sad, it's good
yee
Oh ffs I’ll check bugged surge staff breakpoints later
I still feel smite needs a lil bit more oompf
A bit. Mostly noticeable with EP. 2 shot crushers.
200k got me these... which pill do i take
Main thing is you can actually 2 shot crushers with a crit
can it oneshot any bigger mobs with the perks that increase its damage n shit?
last game with it
One crit is like 2.4k damage so
neither. theyre both ass
Not rly no
with Surge?
interesting, the stun was definitely very good back in the day in my time
Surge staff yes
perks not really but it is better if you go Warp charges or EP
With double damage you can two shot a crusher if you crit
the fuck, most I do is 1.9k
oh right, I don't have + carapace on it
I was just testing it out in the gym. With the bug, it almost 1 shots an armored Rager with no crit. Without it, it takes 3 no crits.
EP you can chain special and elite kills together with very low cost
I don’t have carapace either but I haven’t tested my own damage Tbf
wtfe...
Not bad that’s meta
i have cara unyielding on mine
this is good
For peril edging
i think unyielding is fine for bulwarks, reapers and monsters which whne you are going surge smite, surge is the only ranged option
I had some fun testing the dueling sword buffs. But I like
my Achlys Mk VIII axe even more now since the true aim perk.
Axe (easy headshots) + surge VS = guaranteed surge crit up all the time
That’s my main issue
oh really?
I only use Surge so this is gonna feel weird until it's fixed. And then sad after. 😦
awesome
Surge smite gives me no range bleh
"back in your day" i've played since launch 
Surge needs it’s damage buffed either way so
staff primary fire
what blessings should i get on the illisi?
dies of cringe
but yeah i felt that too when i was running surge smite yesterday
surge has a pretty long lock on range now but yea
Eh surge staff CC is more inconsistent now
You gotta crit to stun mutie
Which is bleh
pre patch it was about 23-25m
didnt see them buff it in the patch so
enemies in the distance you need to either use a fully peril'd vent or a primary fire bolt
I like deflector, and then most people run the +power on kill
kk
aha,aha,aha,oh really? do you have the beta themed helmet like me? 😈
25m is a lot, most engagements besides some sketchy spots
Not really, it just takes 2 not crits to stun a mutant. It charges fast enough for that.
thank you
yes brb
yeah but you feel it when running sniper gauntlet missions
No lights + sniper gauntlet
i wouldn't run sniper gauntlet without BR or assail tbh
not something i'd take surge smite into
hell yeah 💪
we have been through the burnout struggle
Yeah well when the game quickplay you into sniper gauntlet
And you are running surge smite
i quit for a looooong while
It couldve been better, but i can work with this i think
GDANG
It's a good defensive weapon
perfect allocation @brittle timber
i dodge
SMH
unless my team can pick up the slack
Imagine leaving a game
i did a vent purge + sniper gauntlet maelstrom yesterday. we failed, but it was really fun and surge was really effective shooting through the fog
i wonder though
Toxic
you wont get allocation over 90 per stat
toxic would me be staying filling out a spot
well ya lol
You never dodged a sniper into another sniper?
i just meant in terms of perks
Simply run up to the sniper and kill them
no i dodge out fo the match
i need to switch out unstable
Is it good to use
fuck, well played
They mean dodge as in leaving the match
esc + leave match
I'd love to have it
unless it's like, a competent team already clearing through it just fine
not sure what perk i should switch on it though
really? i didnt know that
but i don't want to end up stuck waiting is a corner for 5 minutes cause no one has any anti sniper and too scare to step out
Another one
You can keep it as it is for now, block effiency + deflector + kinetic deflection + gunner resists = fuck you gunners
she has seen some shit
oh no you were right, i just meant that i already knew that
yea my psyker i wanted to make fucked up
They have the Vietnam-dog-flashback eyes.
current smite surge build
also lol lmao it should be illegal to take that many toughness talents
change groaners to carapace, maniac, flak, or unyielding
idk what the breakpoints are for each
Man eats his cereal without milk in the morning, that's how tough he is
that's a woman 
Reject eats their cereal without milk in the morning, that's how though they are
i say take perilous combustion and wildfire, give up these two nodes

should I keep this
ranged damage boosts everything by 5% which helps
Even after patch I think Purgatus and Brain rupture are still my goto combo wombo
and crit nodes synergize with the crit on surge and my duelling sword
the extra soulblaze will do more for damage than 5%
ehh maybe
at least perilous combustion
fuck you might be right wildfire+combustion

throw it in the bin
you want rending shockwave+ warp flurry, and two 25% damage perks
Don't you mean a...zap? 
Yeah they need to fix that asap.
trasfer peril doesn't work on trauma charge fire which is stupid that it's even on there and terrifying barrage is a garpage perk
that's a brick
i tried it yesterday pre patch and it was very nice, glad to hear its even better post patch
also, empowered psionics accidentally buffing surge staff damage by, what, 125%?
Most OP build.
too good
Giblets everywhere 😄
I don't even care about the damage bonus. Just the explosions are so delightful.
True
And although it doesn't matter, it feels nice not losing a kill on an elite cause you did 99% of it's HP but a team mate took the credit

Also the surge m1 feels amazing.
Although it does kinda feel like you're hogging the kills. Which is also no fun.
i see the bug with surge but it really doesnt feel that powerful., am I going crazy?
Do you have an EP stack?
i'm running a bubble smite build into EP so yeah
That’s because base surge is trash
And people are only realizing now that the surge staff is shit once you double the damage and go “huh it’s not that broken?”
Replace run-n-gun with warp flurry?
Yes
take venting
what i have rn
Eh shield works but I prefer venting for safety
Yes.
So. In pursuit of a better holy gib, this is the staff I'm using right now. How can I better it?
That was me, I thought it was just an extra 25%. I almost failed math.
i decided to greed out so i can maximise damage XD
125% is just 25% with an extra 1 
most classes get 2 toughness regen talents anyways i'll be fineee
I mean you see is it *1.25 or *(1+1.25)kekw
No soulstealer?
And why opt for the crit bonuses?
personally i'd go for toughness on peril gen just because it'll give me toughness while using smite
greed
oh wait
also crit on surge and my dueling sword
Okay, I can be real greedy.
But why do you want the crit stuff?
I want to know what you're thinking so I can better optimise myself 🙂
the dodge on crit helps a ton vs ranged enemies
i lose 15% damage tho
Surge staff crit for breakpoints
from perfect timing
Like I’m psure you still need to crit to hit 2 shot crusher breakpoints
How often are you critting?
Even with double damage
ah didnt see that
Could be wrong tho
surge unplayable
I have to go back n check
most of time with a warp nexus surge and shred duelling sword
explodes in smite colors
Uh if you take crit aura n nodes I think psyker can have a bit more than 15% global crit and with nexus that’s +30%
basically immune to range fire
So you crit like 45% of the time if built for it
Can't take crit aura 😦
Opposite side of Shriek.
good build for surge? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a751800-db9b-483f-8684-a1a4514df685/phil?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
go farther down into EP
don't take quell speed
or the increased aura size
uhh surge doesnt hit weakspots so that is bad too
No PC
don't need mind in motion
Perilous combustion
whats the point of going farther down if EP just sits there?
true aim does nothing
Alright so
one free point to pick between quell on kill or toughness on quell
3 stacks, 15% toughness to you are your team, and guaranteed stack on elite kills
so you can chain elite kills back to back to back
surge uses smite EP
for some reason
thanks i'm stupid
did Fatshark up the peril generation of Assail?
a shelf fell on my head
or increase the peril quell delay of Assail?
not as per patch notes
feels like I'm actively quelling more frequently with Assail now
did you switch off warp charges
def gonna take quell on kill
I was using my EP+Assail setup
simply too good
going to test with WS+Assail now
probably the damage nerf
no, I don't spam Assail mindlessly
Alright so you want perilous combustion because 3 burn stacks per elite/special kill is rly strong especially with something like surge… 6 fire stacks will kill all horde enemies, even more will just melt everything short of crushers
Get rid of mind in motion ngl that’s 2 points elsewhere
Replace 5% damage aura for CDR. The 5% damage is kinda not that good anymore
Personally I’d take AB for shriek for more fire and horde clear
so you get less EP procs and less battle mediation procs overall
I use Assail very deliberately
10% peril per shard pre-patch 14
If they did it’s a hidden change
So I just ran the bugged surge on a melee maelstrom, I might as well have soloed it. I think that's enough smite psyker till the next patch.
why psychic leeching if the idea is using surge instead of your blitz?
also when you take CDR aura you can take dodge ranged enemies on crit
Psure it was 14% per shard
which is super OP
it was 10%
cause it procs when you use an EP charge
and 25% for the RMB
surge uses EP charges for some reason
and having 3 max charges+ guaranteed charges on elite kills
is a must
ah
does psychic leeching actually trigger if the charge isn't spent when you use surgestaff?
Wat
Surge doesn’t use EP charges
Surge get's the effect from EP charges, not uses it though
Yes but you don’t use the charges
surge benefits from EP but doesn't spend charges
you're right, you could take the point off
lol that is more broken
here's a video I made on patch 13; no peril reduction talents taken and 10% peril per shard https://streamable.com/pg0k5g
surge staff gets smite bonuses, makes sense that it also would use EP charges lol
if you take it off you can get solidity
eehh i still use smite for stuff, like if a teammate is getting swarmed by ragers
yeah i gotcha
A hallucination then
probably cause less damage= less battle mediation and EP charges
but the toughness on blitz is better on those that get lots of kills and you use to consume EP charge frequently
overall
i.e. BB and assail
yeah even with surgesmite, i find myself swapping between the two because i want cc or killing depending on the situation
do you reckon warp charges or empowered psionics is better for a soulblaze BB build. EP would up damage and cast speed of BB but warp charges would let me spam shriek more often for the 75% faster charges
soulblaze is best served when you can take advantage of things being on warpfire
also grinded yesterday to finish the "get 200 elite/special kills with brain burst while at maximum warp charges" and it was pain
it depends on what you want to focus on
using purgatus staff
Soulblaze BB build specifically?
yeah
Eh probably psionics to buff BB damage
might make two builds then
But in reality if you want to spread fire you will be using trauma or purge
And at that point use warp charges
-peril gen % nodes?
Might be how then
How does that work? Is it something that is only useful to trigger stuff like Precognition and Riposte?
Oh
i'm not using BB to spread fire, i'm using purgatus/shriek to spread fire and BB to make up for the range and single target damage loss of using purgatus
Anything with high crit rate is good. Guns and purgatus benefit greatly
Perilous combustion?
no perilous combustion or true aim i cri
Warp charges then
yeah there's a -5% node in your build
wrong guy
Warp charges CDR gives more fire
With my crit build and laspistol it means virtual immunity to ranged damage
Actually I should probably preface this by saying that I haven’t run purge and BB since this patch
yes you can if you are not using deflector
So maybe BB sucks now and needs psionics to make it not suck
there's no good reason to not get True Aim with anything that can crit
well, with anything that can hit weakspots
How important is the toughness gain on peril gen
Oooh, very neat. Too bad my aim is absolute garbage so no guns for me. =/
i consider it pretty nothingburgers
Can Brain Burst/Rupture crit?
No
Actually what build are you running
Like weapons n stuff that’s a pretty odd tree
both
To my knowledge nope
you can test it by seeing if they consume True Aim stacks
If you are skillful use this to max your DPS
Eh I wouldn’t get true aim for surge smite kekw
What weapons are you using
well no, neither of those can hit weakspots
but if you use Assail, you absolutely should get True Aim
Perilous combustions is pretty much a must take imo
Unless you are only fighting crushers all game
uncanny strike + perilous combustion wink wink
Lmao
rending shockwave + perilous combustion wink wink
Rending shockwave true
Rending fire go whoooooosh
i wonder what synergies will arise from rending + perilous combustion
warp flurry and shred
surely perilous combustion is not absolutely fucking busted on melee maelstrom
So busted
Look idk if it’s still worth it since it only spreads 3 stacks instead of 4

Assail + Perilous Combustion would be funny
trajedy
I mean that’s part of the meta build yes
Once the fire starts raging the kill feed goes nuts
"soulblaze doesn't do damage" mfs when the soulblaze ticks start doing 534 damage
honestly, right now I wish I could go Assail+Shriek+Surge Staff
probably been asked a million times today, but why is one of the assail crystals occasionally purple now?
Crits
that's an EP crystal
does the surge bug work with assail?
enhanced psionics does that now, either that or crit
I don't have EP and get purple crystals
the surge bug is surge + EP
You can just run aura instead of crit
It’s surge + smite + EP
yeah I have warp siphon and was seeing the purple crystal
but there's no reason to use Surge staff without the Smite upgrade nodes
Purple color=crit shard
My CC build
Some of us were using surge last patch even though it was dogshit
Nope it’s because smite and surge rmb count as the same attack type or wte
masochists be like that
So you need specifically smite psure
Idk why people thought it was good
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Some people still think it is good
Like without the bug
you could use Surge without Smite, but you wouldn't be getting the extra target and damage buff on enemies you Surge
M1 machine gun go brrrrr brrrrr brrrrrr brrrrrr brrrrrr brrrrr
Well no because it doesn’t have surge blessing
So voidstrike is better

Could also run transfer peril on voidstrike
Transfer peril + surge lmb spam voidstrike build
Imagine using surge staff for lmb lmao
VoidStrike
Transfer peril?
Ahh, okay. Hmmmm, I wonder if it's worth putting 5% crit back onto my staff then for that.
Why is it so damn fun playing a stabby religious stealth goblin?
Is the obscurus worth using yet? The buffs looked decent
Nope
Want swipey? Go Illisi. Want stabby? Go Deimos
The buffs are global across all force swords and mostly to account for slaughterer nerfs and health changes
not on staff imo
well maybe
wow
err 25% damage helps a ton tho
Too bad, though I'm not terribly surprised. Yeah that moveset is awkward
Obscures is still good smh
It’ll get buffed one day
And then it will be META
And you’ll regret abandoning it smh

i think 5% on staff is only for stuff like blazing or surge (blessing)
Deimos is a bit insane now
Also unmentioned in notes, the force sword push fling is now 10m
otherwise, much better to have 25% damage on crits to an armor type than 5% more crit chance overall
based
waht the
holy shit time to see it for myself
send a vid
Ew deimos
i've been using duelling sword
have to download the update first :pensive:
Use this also for gun psyker
10m fling and bonus crazy stagger on deimos.
whewww
"take a seat kid"
wtf did it do to that crusher
great
pretty good
me omw to beat a crusher to death with my magic staff
Deimos stagger needs to be reigned in for sure.
is it only on deimos?
it's actually a problem because it flings them too far.
when a caveman finds a magic wand:
The super stab is what does it.
is the patch any good?
god damn, warp nexus t4 only thing i'm missing for void
luckily the difference in tiers for warp nexus isn't that big
i am fine with a t3 warp nexus on my staffs
ye but i wanna catch'em all
okay definitely something up with Assail's peril gen/delay
Pls stop
nothing else to dow ith my mats anyways
it's not that I'm throwing more, it's that I'm having to actively quell more
Maybe less damage means less empowered psionics stack
that last run was with WS
this " : ) " has been sent from the melee weapon coalition
and I used the bubble shield only twice
same peril gen in the psykhanium at least
What about quell delay and quell speed
hrm, maybe it's just a feeling, then
is fire trauma still a thing?
I have to go n check
Yes
It’s probably the 2nd strongest build after voidstrike
i can still spam the 1st shard relatively quickly
assail right click has really sluggish chains
flurry is no no, right?
maybe the delay between activating active quell and the quell acceleration rate?
with LMB -> quell -> lmb -> quell
patch says they didnt change the quell rate of assail
only difference should be M1 does less damage and M2 does more
Ehhh I’d rather just run rending shock with flurry
im just saying what the patch says lol
no blazing spirit?
Yeah no don’t listen to it
i cant look into their minds and see what they did that wasnt reported
Trauma has loads of blessing options now.
Flurry shock trauma is still decent
they don't know object oriented programming, let alone their own systems
I like surge/nexus trauma
It wouldn’t help even if you could
@spice veldt what's your soulblaze+Assail build look like?
throw out tonnes of bolts at range, keep the defensive shockwave for melee
Half the time I doubt they even realize what they’re doing
what about fire trauma with blazing
Like patch 12 or wte said that they changed psykinetic shield to be based on warp charge or wte the fuck
what does surge do for trauma? I thought it didnt work on its secondary fire which kinda kills it IMO
No it fucking wasn’t
Fire trauma is probably the best way to use blaze shriek.
nexus for 2nd blessing tho, right? to proc it more
how so
It doesn't work on the shockwave, but doubling your bolts which fire fast and have +60% crit rate is strong.
also - for Void, is damage dealt directly tied to impact/stagger dealt?
He runs trauma
You won’t like it kekw
Purgatus isn't good with blaze because it can't generate peril
He runs blazing spirit with rending shockwave/focused channeling
because I couldn't stagger-lock a chaos demon the last run
I’m pretty sure
Tho daemonhost is like
Blazing trauma applies blaze in a huge area, which fuels kills to warp charges to cdr
reeeeeee
Is daemonhost staggerable with void in general?
You do a blaze shriek after trauma blaze and you now have 9 stacks on everything in the room./
not daemonhost, the chaos rapey demon
this is what I run; stuff crossed in yellow are talents that I change around frequently depending on the planetary alignment on the days I'm playing
but it only applies a small amount of blaze
Ohhh chaos spawn
mfw arcotash is influenced by the tides
the darktides
ew, why would you bother with DD?
YES
Should be able to dunno if you can stagger lock it cuz you gotta fish for voidstrike surge crits
this is with blazing spirit trauma?
fun
In fire reborn only cares if the enemy dies while on fire.
not enough points to go into Warp Siphon, and I don't feel like spamming assail with EP
Lmao crossing them out
I sometimes run a keystoneless build
Also random toughness nodes
Ew
arc loves his toughness
arcotash runs some rly weird stuff
you should see his greedy toughness node builds
Yes I know
which force sword is the one that DOESN'T get stuck in a single target on powrred attack, but just goes through multiple enemies, kinda like the power sword on vet. I could swear one works that way ive used before, but now i cant figure out which one for the life of me
It’s disgusting 🤮
yeah let me go take banger options like +50% dodge duration (doesn't work properly) or mind in motion (press spacebar)
i think he was the one i saw fire trauma build
Staff left clicks shoot quite fast now.
ilissi
I run blazing spirit trauma yeah, but that's because I don't care about my ranged weapon at all
I just run blitz + melee all the time, like I did pre-patch 13
i am just completely uninterested in the staff options that we have
they're all just mechanically dogshit to me
I just ran illissi and it definitely got stuck in a single target
it doesnt
i can see that
you're confusing it with another force sword then
still i think blazing spirit trauma is fun
obscurus and deimos share the same single target warp attack
Illisi will still get stopped by carapace or enough mass.
That’s what I run
Idk wtf Arco is running ngl
man i tried blaze trauma staff last week and hated how it played
It probably works cuz it’s Arco but
cuz i'm basically running assail + melee build
stop trying to gaslight me into running it again
I think my skill tree is fairly rational if you just ignore your ranged weapon
Yeah that makes more sense
Lmao
nice, thanks!
what the fuck is a ranged weapon
Actually no you use disrupt destiny like you fucking chase down the stacks?
no, because they don't glow lamayo
I can't chase them because marked targets just don't glow
Arco is just weird
i can just imagine arc charging past a horde to kill the glowing DD enemy
i would neverrrr