psyker-class

[viscid matrix]

no, still garbage as ever, takes too long to be worth swapping to it

[olive ember]

except you can one shot flamers now

[carmine agate]

i can 1 shot dogs and ragers consistently now.. feels good

[late yew]

Look at damage and kills

[north cradle]

Oh that's cool, there are purple crystals that tell you if they crit

[jolly dove]

[late yew]

I did that with Smite

[shy fiber]

Brain burst is still really good for hard to hit enemies

[carmine agate]

the 15 toughness if i use EP stack is useless if i get smite right?

[shy fiber]

I take it for my support build

[carmine agate]

its only good with assail?

[hushed glade]

Should’ve nerfed assail more

[icy shuttle]

what468k is wild lol

[plucky flax]

29 mins game for no plasteels.

[lyric burrow]

468k is actually like not super insane anymore

[viscid matrix]

no, you can use, smite is just as quick, just secondary for 1 tick and let go for damage and stagger

[olive ember]

TRS? kekw

[lyric burrow]

its good though

[olive ember]

they fixed TRS anyways

[lyric burrow]

but you can hit like 600k

[carmine agate]

so i shld still take it even with smite?

[late yew]

I play for fun

[carmine agate]

hmm

[late yew]

not for fuckn plasteel

[woven crypt]

C'mon psykinetics...use the brain burst...

[plucky flax]

What's TRS?

[olive ember]

TRS-150

its a mission name

[late yew]

Comparative damage is what matters, not absolute

[north cradle]

Oh that's neat, I didn't know Assail was affected by True Aim

[plucky flax]

Relay station?

[olive ember]

it used to be bugged where you would get like malice rewards on damnation

[viscid matrix]

no, its the worst choice

[late yew]

Absolute can vary greatly between games

[plucky flax]

No it's just these guys don't pick plasteels.

[late yew]

^

[woven crypt]

Stand still for another second

[late yew]

Surge + Smite is absolutly amazing

Also i love how surge now explodes enemies

[gilded viper]

Surge exploding and uses smite talents

wild stuff

[shy fiber]

BB is really good in emergency situations if you can’t exactly get a special

[lyric burrow]

so it sounds like meta for blitzes hasnt changed too much

[carmine agate]

smite good now

[lyric burrow]

oh good

[shy fiber]

It’s come in clutch a bunch of times for me

[carmine agate]

ahem i meant

surge

[viscid matrix]

would prefer they scrap Brain rupture, and should swap it to Crush and have a 1k damage per second with 5 second channel time that murders a target no problem

[north cradle]

Ooh and True Aim stacks can be acquired by a charged Force Sword attack

[shy fiber]

WHAT

[viscid matrix]

you can do that with any melee weapon

[lyric burrow]

arco losing his mind

[viscid matrix]

just hit their head and get true aim stacks

it applies to BB too, 2 stacks per BB

[late yew]

what are true aim stacks?

[ornate hamlet]

Interesting

[late yew]

ok

So?

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/0bk9u9

[plucky flax]

True aim worked with melee weapon since patch 13.

[orchid shadow]

That's the best use for it and the reason I take it over anything else. When a sniper or bomber all the way across the map absolutely needs to die and I only know the general direction, Brain Burst to the rescue.

[late yew]

Problem is assail does that as well

[viscid matrix]

BB is currently dogshite, assail does its job better

[north cradle]

NOICE

[hot prairie]

so i was curious. is there an efficient way of completing the "prioritize targets" penance or is it meant to be a slog?

[viscid matrix]

but not suprising, Assail is overtuned to hell

[viscid matrix]

which one is that? havent looked at penances in a while

[shy fiber]

It’s for peace of mind personally

[ornate hamlet]

Assail psykers when a reaper shows up:

[shy fiber]

It’s much easier for me to kill a sniper with BB than assail

[hot prairie]

kill 200 elite/specialist with BB

[hushed glade]

Was hoping they would nerf assail even more, everyone still uses it every match, haven’t touched the game as much and will probably put it down, specially with all the games coming out

[shy fiber]

Especially if I have no time to wait

The travel time can be too difficult

Especially if there’s gunners

[viscid matrix]

thats just a grind, good luck

[shy fiber]

I can just look and peek back into cover

[hot prairie]

:)))))

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/zjpqc5 before it got buffed

[steep frost]

It's kinda funny, the assail change just makes it compete with BB more

[late yew]

this fov and graphics should be considered criminal

[shy fiber]

I . . .

Idk what my eyes are seeing

[viscid matrix]

Arco plays on minimum 😄

it makes it a very smooth game on potatos

[shy fiber]

Ah true

[hot prairie]

bruh who's playing on a ps3

[viscid matrix]

Arcotash

[shy fiber]

Btw does smite eat your frames still or can I actually play the game

[viscid matrix]

because FS is bad at thier job ?

[junior wave]

what do they mean it doesn't consume any charges?

[shy fiber]

You can throw a shard for free

[steep frost]

how does smite feel now?

[hushed glade]

Assail ruined the game lol

[regal musk]

Same as before, but with added Peril.

[shy fiber]

Because Assail has a high probability to kill multiple targets in a single shard it also has a high probability to proc EP

[viscid matrix]

that video was before the buff 😄 its stronger now, cause that same interaction can work on assail secondary with double base damage of what the primary was

[shy fiber]

Assail on auric Damnation will not save you in my experience

[late yew]

Thinking if i should make an other evi to change SS with bloodletter?

[ornate hamlet]

That's bullshit. What's the point of taking BB anymore

[shy fiber]

Wrong chat lmao

[viscid matrix]

there is no reason right now

[ornate hamlet]

B r u h

[lyric burrow]

Bb has been invalidated since assail

Existed

Or void

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/3q8w21
all the smite buffs on the talent tree apply to surge staff

[steep frost]

I-oh

alright

[ornate hamlet]

It's not even how assail outplays any blitz, is when I get a teammate using one there's like nothing to kill because assail's already got to it

[lyric burrow]

I do get that i hate the blitz too

Didnt use it for that reason

[viscid matrix]

abuse the hell out of it, until a fatshark dev plays a game and has there entire run ruined by it

[idle bay]

Rhetorical question: it was ~1400 missions and always wondering how moronic one should be while not beeing low level noob - to deliberately wake up DH and die in 10 seconds....

[viscid matrix]

best way to get somthing changed, ruin a devs game

[ornate hamlet]

Game's boring then

[viscid matrix]

assail can hit a demonhost if you look in their general direction at the wrong time

[north cradle]

Now Veterans get to know how Psykers felt

You interrupt my Brain Burst, I interrupt your Volley Fire

[hushed glade]

I haven’t touched the game since trying the last update when they introduced assail and reading this update I’m uninstalling

[idle bay]

It does not that change that sibling who did is a complete moron. And should know not to use such abilities near DH

[viscid matrix]

go into Aurics, less assail spammers cause they dont know how to play properly and get shitstomped so they dont come back

[lyric burrow]

People using assail are not paying attention if you find a dh with an assail psyker they will piss it off everytime sub auric

[idle bay]

Nah - auric is for sweatlords 🙂 I'm prefefer chill damnation runs 🙂

[fresh vessel]

Oh yeah didn't Devil's Claw get smacked.

is it any good still or

[viscid matrix]

best way to do it, agro the DH then use a Deflector and block spec Illisi to hold it while the others kill it

[lyric burrow]

It got nerfed doubt its bad

[shy fiber]

Pretty much

Good luck using assail against a mixed horde 💀

[near wyvern]

Yea it did, haven't tried it in an actual march yet, gotta compare it with Illisi

[shy fiber]

I see way less assail users in auric

[empty onyx]

Wow. I just met a +357 Level Psyker. Who decided to split the team during a horde, leading to two deaths and then proceeded to wake a DH, leading to the other two deaths.

[idle bay]

Absolutely normal 🙂

[vast sonnet]

I read something about EP not being as great for Smite currently and it should be ran instead with Warp Siphon. Anyone tried it?

[royal granite]

well, this is an interesting new development

[shy fiber]

Is it cuz of the peril generation?

[royal granite]

the nose is a little too snubbed on this gun i think

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/мало-gif-21701742

[empty onyx]

On the upside, you can shoot all bullets at the same time.

[viscid matrix]

EP affects Surge staff cause its also smite in the coding, so smite + EP are good together https://streamable.com/3q8w21

[still hearth]

Surge is ok

[real silo]

you need the smite to get the EP buff on the surge?

[karmic fractal]

Bots taking the Monstrosity kill, after my Brainburst damaged the Beats of Nurgle like:

https://tenor.com/bjTJP.gif

[viscid matrix]

not sure about that part, maybe

[vast sonnet]

Is that intentional I wonder

[sleek hornet]

is this a mod or how do you see this?

[karmic fractal]

scoreboard mod

[sleek hornet]

can play official with that?

[karmic fractal]

yup

[viscid matrix]

yes

[sleek hornet]

Blessed brothers and sisters, I thank ye

[north cradle]

Is Savage Sweep and Bloodletter still recommended for a Chainsword

[karmic fractal]

but yeah, that Monstrosity Penance is pain

it's Spain, but the S is silent.

[primal aurora]

I did it with randoms long time ago.

[karmic fractal]

well luckily I already completed the other annoying penance

killing a dog mid-pounce

with a BB

[royal granite]

fatshark is okay with all kinds of mod as long as it 1: doesn't affect other players and 2: doesn't affect sales

also, scandinavian spotted

[karmic fractal]

also why is Brain rupture hilariously bad?
It can't even one-shot a rager on heresy

[spare light]

Pretty sure I saw a mod that changed every semi auto gun to full auto

Wonder if that's allowed tbh

[karmic fractal]

even Autohotkey can do this

[frank moat]

I just downloaded that to have fun with staff M1 lmao

[spare light]

Speaking of mods, time to get the FOV mod cause I CANNAE SEE SHIT SAH whenever I'm playing my Ogryn

[karmic fractal]

book_finder best mod

change my mind

[spare light]

already got it

[olive ember]

I wish

surge staff actually feels nice now with double the damage

but probably not

[spare light]

Clean force blocking pretty good too

[karmic fractal]

but I like 80% of my screen obstructed with my force sword

[spare light]

Listen I'm blind enough as it is

[frank moat]

Check All Cosmetics, Fashion Randomizer, For The Drip and Extended Weapon Customization

I am the kitbash

[karmic fractal]

throwback to that patch that broke the surge staff with new vfx

[lyric burrow]

ok yeah smite still seems mid and assail still seems broken af

[spare light]

What do those do?

[lyric burrow]

also surge is nutty now lol

with that bug

[karmic fractal]

surge with Smite?

[olive ember]

its decent now with the bug yes

because doubling the damage like suggested makes it good

[lyric burrow]

i think it was fine before tbh

[olive ember]

it really wasn't

weakest staff you could bring

tho some people thought it was amazing

[karmic fractal]

so assail and smite

[lyric burrow]

i mean i dont need it to one shot bulwarks

[karmic fractal]

forget about the existence of rupture

got it

[lyric burrow]

yeah rupture still mid

[olive ember]

I watched a guy running warp charges today with surge (cuz thats what you are supposed to run) struggle against mauler packs cuz game went oops 8 maulers and he was just struggling

[karmic fractal]

Oh yeah the Monstrosity penance

[olive ember]

and I'm just like "wow if only he had a purge or trauma or voidstrike"

and yeah

[spare light]

the time I did not see the sniper in front of me

[carmine agate]

dump stat for surge?

[karmic fractal]

does it have to be Brain Burst/Rupture or do the others work as well?

[olive ember]

but with the 2x damage surge can actually be not dogshit

[olive ember]

quell speed

[carmine agate]

trying to find a better base staff for surge

[lyric burrow]

tbf void is hardly a fair comparison that thing needs its kneecaps broken

[olive ember]

or warp res

tbh

[carmine agate]

hmm ok

[near wyvern]

This is why sniper resist is so good

[lyric burrow]

ill agree trauma is better anyway

[olive ember]

well yes but trauma and purge are fair game

[strong gulch]

I always seemed to do well with surge staff before this patch cracked it.

It wasn't broken, but it was still strong. Now it's silly strong.

[spare light]

I don't think sniper resist would've helped me in that case, in the moment I thought it spawned on me, nah, I'm just a blind fook

[fringe sapphire]

Anyone wanna tldr what to play now? I was having fun with BR+purg prepatch. Would've wanted to run Smite, but it felt super weak.

[olive ember]

surge is still a downgrade to voidstrike by default, maybe competitive ish with 2x the damage

[spare light]

Don't expect to kill shit with Smite

[frank moat]

Check All let’s you view all the locked cosmetics but you can’t equip them, Randomizer let’s you see how they’ll look on your character. For The Drip let’s you recolour/texture your gear and Weapon Customisation lets you mix n match weapon parts including melee and staves

[lyric burrow]

smite still feels really meh to me but with surge you can abuse the bug

[austere burrow]

Surge is better at killing crushers now isn't it

With the bug

[lyric burrow]

yeah it does well

[olive ember]

with two times damage you can 2 shot crushers

[carmine agate]

yeh

[olive ember]

lmao

[lyric burrow]

still worse at it then void probably

[carmine agate]

i 2 to 3 shot crushers usually

[olive ember]

think about it

[fringe sapphire]

What bug? So they went and broke some more psyker stuff? Lmao

[olive ember]

after doubling the surge staff damage it still 2 shot crushers

[lyric burrow]

surge can use smites EP and talent nodes

without using EP charges

so free 2x damage

[fringe sapphire]

Damn yo

[olive ember]

genuinely feels not shit now

[lyric burrow]

think the extra target works too

[spare light]

Oh neat

[olive ember]

finally I can use an extra staff without doing fuck all

[lyric burrow]

but tldr assail still best forget BR exists and smite meh to me

[spare light]

these are my 2 surges, I use the one with shitty quell but I'd pay good moneys for it to have 70% quell on it

[fringe sapphire]

Sadge Surge is the only staff I DONT have rn

[lyric burrow]

use BR if you want though i do

its usable

[olive ember]

mostly cuz I'm bored of fire trauma and purge and I never liked voidstrike kekw

[olive ember]

eh if you wanna meta slave just use voidstrike

its still better than surge even with the 2x damage bonus

[strong gulch]

Imagine if the surge bug is actually intentional

[olive ember]

I wish

it would actually make the staff not bad

[ornate hamlet]

I use it as well with maxed charged time

[steel flame]

Laspistol is so busted now. Melts bosses like butter and deletes everything else

[olive ember]

well tbh maybe tune the damage down to +100% instead of +125%

[near wyvern]

It was not bad before, just needed a bit more damage against carapace

[plucky flax]

Without bug still better than purg.

[ornate hamlet]

Still able to clear rooms off specialists with it while it still feels like a challenge

[carmine agate]

when can i dual wield staves

[spare light]

Ahh, so close

[near wyvern]

Deimos so good now

[olive ember]

it was pretty bad ngl

[ornate hamlet]

Why bother with that when you can just spam assail like the throne fodder we are :^)

[olive ember]

idk how you think the surge was better than purge but

[steel flame]

Gross

[fringe sapphire]

It's so boring I don't touch that poop

[olive ember]

well you think the surge pre patch was amazing so i guess thats how

[vagrant frigate]

do kills on enemies effected by soulblaze count as warp kill>

[strong gulch]

Did you change your blessings or perks?

[summer prairie]

Surge, pretty good for 29min

[steel flame]

Infernus dumdum

Still the best

[olive ember]

the damage staff finally does damage

[strong gulch]

How are you feeling about the heavy 2 knocking targets around?

[icy shuttle]

good roll?

[plucky flax]

Idk how you think the purg was better than surge but

[shadow quail]

I thought it felt much stronger when lightning spec

[plucky flax]

[vagrant frigate]

do enemies with soulblaze dying to sword count as warp attack kill?

[near wyvern]

Haven't gotten to play yet but tested that you can reach mutant one shot ez with only warp rider base +10%

[fringe sapphire]

Do you need Smite as Blitz for Surge Staff to use EP?

[spare light]

when you use charged force sword I assume

[olive ember]

the surge was better than purge against crushers and bulwarks

and thats about it

and singular targets

if singular targets is a metric in a horde shooter

[strong gulch]

Right?

[plucky flax]

And against specials yes.

[vagrant frigate]

i mean if a dude is on fire and i stab him is that warp attack

[lyric burrow]

if your not using a force sword special dont think so assuming the sword kills them

[olive ember]

no

[spare light]

if you use force sword and use the charged warp attack yeah

[vagrant frigate]

ok i didnt think so\

[spare light]

so you charge the sword

[olive ember]

well if the fire kills im not sure, but if you do a normal stab and the stab kills its not a warp attack

[icy shuttle]

Can anyone let me know if this is a good roll ?

[vagrant frigate]

then my build id perfect then

[steel flame]

Dunno what voodoo magic is a play but despite the faster fire rate ammo consumption is down. Probably because of the buff ass damage

[olive ember]

not really no

well if they are alone yes

[strong gulch]

revolver and mk 4 dueling sword bad then

[olive ember]

which again I don't count as a metric

[plucky flax]

If you wipe to trash horde then fair enough.

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vagrant frigate]

does the light attack of mk4 cleave 3 now?

2.6 or smth

[olive ember]

genuinely a horde is scarier than singular specials

[vagrant frigate]

this is all i run?

[steel flame]

Derpy shall hence forth be known as "IhateSurgeStaff"

[olive ember]

no no I like surge staff now

just pre patch surge staff was

[spare light]

what do we think lads?

[near wyvern]

Nah, the horde is only scary if there is a singular special cause they fucking body block you.

[olive ember]

not that good

[olive ember]

well thats horde + special then

[near wyvern]

Barrage into nexus and ranged into carapace or elite damage and surge goes brrrr?

[olive ember]

but if its like singular dog vs horde of poxwalkers i'd say the horde is more threatening yes

unless you have skill issue

[near wyvern]

Yes but a line special behind you is also scary

[strong gulch]

It's a sarcastic response.

You get a feel for the revolver buffs? I was two shotting a crusher in the meath grinder.

[spare light]

Yea but can it compete with this?

[near wyvern]

Horde alone no matter what side gets clapped

[vagrant frigate]

it 1shots sometimes for me

with my build

[near wyvern]

I doubt it makes a big difference between the two

[spare light]

I just wonder if more quell speed would be better

[olive ember]

at that point purge and surge are pretty equal unless its like mutants

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/a-lot-of-damage-gif-21579882

[near wyvern]

Deimos says hello to the mutant so purge is better in that sense

[spice oar]

Any new changes they added to the final notes for us?

[empty onyx]

How popular is Disrupt Destiny currently? Because the more I play it, the more I like it. Not necessarily for its buffs, but for the wallhacks it gives me. Knowing ahead of time if there's something more dangerous coming up is really neat.

[vagrant frigate]

i only run dd

[spare light]

Wait how are y'all one shotting crushers with surge?

[empty onyx]

Probably with the Empowered Psyionics bug?

[paper pier]

So messing around with the assail changes I feel more encouraged than ever to spam it and less encouraged to use it sparingly/swap and toss a few out

[near wyvern]

It's in a very weird spot, amazing when you can stack it but that's the main problem, it cannot target anything else than bruisers, ranged and human size elites.

[spare light]

I still am doing 1.9K max crit with it

[strong gulch]

This one is better imo

[empty onyx]

And specials.

[near wyvern]

It doesn't target specials

[maiden hornet]

no more smite bug

[empty onyx]

I've seen enough blue trappers.

[summer prairie]

the one-shots are with all the possible buffs basically

[vagrant frigate]

this game is so fun

[paper pier]

DD also suffers from the fact that it encourages trying to race your team to kill something, or killing something that might not actually be immediately relevant just to get use from your keystone or not drop stacks

[vagrant frigate]

thats the point :D

[thin finch]

so same as before?

[strong gulch]

there's a new one

[vagrant frigate]

with revolver you can shoot through teammtaes

[maiden hornet]

oh god what is it?

[vagrant frigate]

and preaim quick swap

[plucky flax]

Dd should work like piety from zealot.

[paper pier]

I should have known we learn nothing when so many systems somehow stepped backwards from VT2

[vernal parrot]

what are the best plessings and perks for voidstrike?

[thin finch]

"Mmh that crusher is about to kill my team mate, but that random dude is glowing blue, sorry vet, I may rez you later"

[shadow quail]

decent?

[turbid crag]

how can you make your game look like that? some mod?

[strong gulch]

Surge staff benefiting from the smite buffs and not using stack from EP. So you get the extra damage on surge and keep it because surge doesn't consume that stacks.

[viscid matrix]

@spice veldt did those videos, he has explained how he dropped the settings, just search from:arcotash to find it

[olive ember]

@spice veldt

probably a mod

oh

well he got double pinged

[turbid crag]

thx

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[viscid matrix]

i think they are asleep or working at the moment

[olive ember]

eh its california

[thin finch]

no one ,go back from whence you came

[olive ember]

I'm sure he gets pinged real time all the time

[plucky flax]

You have to be really broke to achieve that level of graphics fidelity.

[strong gulch]

watch your perils like a hawk tho.

[olive ember]

9 AM so maybe hes in school idek

college student schedules so who the fuck knows

[vagrant frigate]

hey guys you shouldn't use combustion anymore, trust me guys its not that good

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/ksganti-jumpscare-gif-18209355

[maiden hornet]

just noticed when i am in the grinder

[olive ember]

people were wondering if PC was gonna be not worth taking after this patch

[maiden hornet]

god the speed on the shield is so good

[thin finch]

the zealot fire grenade did all the works, truly the perk is dead

[strong gulch]

I forgot to try bubble

[vernal parrot]

i just hit lvl 30 and want to get my first good weapon. what blessings and perks should i go for on a voidstrike staff?

[viscid matrix]

#psyker-class message

[olive ember]

uh prob flak/maniac/unyielding and then warp nexus + surge

i forget if flak is worth now with health changes but

[viscid matrix]

Surge/Warp Nexus for Crit murder build, or WarpFlurry/Transfer Peril for machinegun grenades

[kindred sand]

duelling sword, i can only put 1 blessing to IV. Uncanny Strike or Shred? It already has both lvl III

[olive ember]

uncanny

oh

probably uncanny yeah

[viscid matrix]

Uncanny Strike, always worth way more

[vernal parrot]

alright, thanks 🙂 ❤️

[kindred sand]

Ty

[lyric burrow]

uncanny 100%

[verbal bear]

Do I keep flak on this or change to carapace/unyielding

[summer prairie]

right now flak isn't needed if you abuse the bug, otherwise flak is better

[verbal bear]

I could just go crit chance then with the smite dam

[olive ember]

look its not a bug

its Intended

yep yep

no bug here!

[neat summit]

@spare light with the update, 6 warp charges refund about 50% of the cd for the bubble shield. I think I'll move over to empowered psionics for free brainbursts to proc the cd reduction on special kills. In aurics, I think that having the free BB and the increased damage from EP will be more than enough to have similar shield uptime as to having 6 WC with the 50% reset

[orchid shadow]

Bug?

[paper loom]

any gun bros confirm if this is decent and what i should change?

[edgy ibex]

So from patch notes

Is BB soul blaze and smite empowered that shit now?

[strong gulch]

@steel flame

[neat summit]

"that shit" or "the shit"

[steel flame]

WHO HATH SUMMONED ME

[neat summit]

BB just got buffed significantly

[edgy ibex]

That shit like how good is it now

Well botj mean the same tbr lmao

The shit or that shit

[edgy ibex]

Yeah notes seem HARD buff

[paper loom]

is zazy the resident gun psyker:]?

[steel flame]

Oof

[neat summit]

Super good

[edgy ibex]

So like is bb soul blaze insane now? I also see empowered got a huge buff so how is smite

[neat summit]

BB with 3 EP will two shot crushers

as opposed to 3-4

[paper loom]

is it crap?

[olive ember]

eh not really

[edgy ibex]

Much love for the info

[olive ember]

it got "buffed" but enemy health also increased

[vagrant frigate]

doink the second one

[olive ember]

I think the only breakpoint that really changed was that you can one shot flamers now

[edgy ibex]

I like that damage AND peril gen got buffed

From 30 to 20

[neat summit]

I don't believe BB was 2 shotting crushers in damnation

IIRC

[steel flame]

Id say upgrade infernus to 4, change weakspot to crit chance

[neat summit]

IIRC it fell just barely short

[edgy ibex]

The peril cut down is a big deal too tho

That’s 10% adding up every usage thats gone

[paper loom]

ok and keep the speedload thing?

[steel flame]

If you don't mind the perks go for dum dum

[paper loom]

ok cool ty:] i appreciate it mate

[steel flame]

It reloads pretty fast already

Speed loader kinda overkill

[summer prairie]

BB can basically two-shot all ogryns with just warp charges too

[paper loom]

and 20% carapace is ok i guess

[steel flame]

It's....aight

[olive ember]

wait hwat

[paper loom]

see with crit chance surely if you hit them in the head its a crit?

[olive ember]

you are telling him to keep carapace on a laspistol?

i mean

weakspot isnt that good but laspistol is a weakspot weapon

[neat summit]

i don't think carapace on laspistol is good. semi hot take

I think I'd go for maniacs on this

[olive ember]

I mean do you have any form of rending?

[steel flame]

Fine change carapace to crit. Weak spot is terible

[olive ember]

i mean yes but

carapace?

[steel flame]

It's math sucks ass

[olive ember]

on a laspistol for psyker?

[steel flame]

Least get some value from carapace vs like 2% more damage with weakspot

[paper loom]

carapace is bulwarks right?

[steel flame]

Crusher and Mauler head

Unyielding is reapers and bulwarks

[paper loom]

ah ok

[olive ember]

technically speaking both bulwark and reapers have carapace on them

just uh don't hit those parts

[paper loom]

i pretty much hit the fat arse of a ogryn blocking my shots 99% of the time tbh

[olive ember]

thats where the recon lasgun comes in

"oh no he blocked 20 bullets, good thing I have 40 more"

brrrr

[steel flame]

Anyways just change both blessings. Infernus 4 and dum dum

[paper loom]

ok will do ty

[steel flame]

I've been loving the buffs so far. 4k scryer dps on reapers and bulwarks is fun

Can't quite hit 4k vs maulers

It's close

3800 is the closest I got

[olive ember]

what gun are you using for scryers?

[strong gulch]

I don't like gaze on revolver. It feels good on laspistol tho.

Revolver is too slow plus the long reload taking up time.

[olive ember]

I'm wondering how good a recon 7 is with scriers

[rare storm]

oh shit patch 14 live, did the 50% nerf to soulstealer and the 1 less soulblaze stack on perilous change alot?

[olive ember]

tho meta is almost certainly a vraks 7

[ebon jolt]

I’m looking to try out MG1a with the new buff with gaze. Infernus and Deadly accurate.

[olive ember]

uh soulstealer maybe? but perilous is perfectly fine

it was broke before now its

better

in terms of balance

[ebon jolt]

No. Same changes. Almost no changes from initial patch notes.

[olive ember]

i think soul stealer is fine you just won't take it for every build

[steel flame]

Laspistol nearly has beat on boss damage

[rare storm]

As in did the changes affect game play

[olive ember]

yes but laspistol you need to hit head

and I'm playing psyker

why the fuck would I aim smh

[rare storm]

but aite aite aite, less "meta" shit I guess

[olive ember]

well actually I say that but

every staff kills trash

[rare storm]

But practically every kill we do is warp related

[olive ember]

so i'd probably take it besides for like surge

yeah

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rare storm]

So... I guess it'll still be a must

[olive ember]

i mean perilous is still a must have so it doesn't rly affect me either way

[rare storm]

Ehhh ye I guess so

[ebon jolt]

I don’t think warp kill toughness is needed on Purg staff. Toughness on crit is good enough.

[edgy ibex]

How do you feel ab force

[olive ember]

wat?

[rare storm]

What

It's all soulblaze kills

[olive ember]

AB force?

[rare storm]

They're all warp tho

O the buff to dueling swords went through

Okay, meta sword time

[edgy ibex]

Force staff idk AB I just got into psyker

Am ogryn and vet

[rare storm]

les go baybee @vagrant frigate your melee build gona be meta now

[olive ember]

which force staff

there are 4 of them

[edgy ibex]

Trauma

[copper torrent]

Okay, BB + EP surge is absolutely cracked

[olive ember]

AB is good with trauma if you are going for fire trauma

[carmine agate]

is this ok?

[copper torrent]

finese is too low imo

[olive ember]

well basically your choices for AB is whether or not you want to spend the two points

[carmine agate]

aight

[rare storm]

other than the low finesse it's not bad

[edgy ibex]

PHH my bad, I meant how do you feel ab (about) force, idek what AB is lol

[olive ember]

oh Ascendant Blaze (AB)

trauma is pretty strong

[rare storm]

But if you're using it powered the finesse doesn't really matter

[edgy ibex]

Ah okay my bad for that miscommunication

[steel flame]

I might like vraks if not for the annoying swap time the autoguns have, so I'll just stick with lp

[edgy ibex]

I figured it’s been straight carrying me from a good drop

[olive ember]

two ways to build it you can either go Warp nexus + blazing spirit to basically have fire trauma, which spreads fire on crit, or you can go for warp flurry + rending shockwave trauma, which is just spam trauma explosions

[edgy ibex]

The clear and trauma toughness gen on right click is wild

That what I do is explosions lmfao

[carmine agate]

its the crit for toughness thing?

[rare storm]

I did rending+blaze, it's not bad. The trauma staff crits surprisingly often even without nexus

[olive ember]

rending blaze? never tried it

[steel flame]

I have considered do that

[carmine agate]

if i do trauma blaze

[olive ember]

cuz warp nexus is basically 30% extra crit I'm not sure what the crit chance is normally now

probably like 15%?

[carmine agate]

shld i swap the flak to crit chance?

[rare storm]

It's pretty fun, you'll be a decent wave clear, and a good debuffer when a boss comes

[steel flame]

I've seen the 16 stacks make fire melt crushers

[rare storm]

So quite flexible in your roles

[steel flame]

I'll just miss crit chance

[rare storm]

ya it's significantly lesser crit BUT with how many you hit, not too bad honestly

[olive ember]

@near wyvern how decent would rending shockwave + blazing spirit be on trauma since psyker has other ways of crit chance nowadays

out of curiosity

[rare storm]

I can live it personally

[ebon jolt]

Someone posted the source code in here at some point and base psyker crit chance is 7.5% now. I’m not sure what base crit is for the staff. Then you can pick up +5 from the talent tree and you really want extra the +5 from the aura.

[rare storm]

Errr with the aura and boost about 16?

[rare storm]

o yes this

[olive ember]

yeah so more or less 15% crit

maybe

especially if you use true aim with assail

dunno I'd have to make a new trauma staff tho XD

[rare storm]

Trauma staffs is the hardest to get a decent one for me too

Not sure if it's the same for you

the emperor did not bless me

[steel flame]

Well we could get 15% crit base and 35% with scryer which isn't terrible considering pre patch 13 we only had 25%

[olive ember]

I mean scriers with trauma tho

[rare storm]

Do people actually use scrier with staffs

[olive ember]

I don't

[steel flame]

We would lose fire ult

[olive ember]

its pretty good with transfer peril voidstrike

pretty sure

[rare storm]

Oh that is true

if only I can get the fking blessing

[fringe sapphire]

did anyone post a surge build I could snag?

[rare storm]

[steel flame]

But those 6 stacks plus combustion would go farther with rending

I would need to test it

[spare light]

Surge might be a tad too good now hotfix inc?

[rare storm]

Wait what was the buff to surge

[brave fiber]

I wish it was better tho, the sheer safety of shield and the utility of venting shriek is too good to pass up

[steel flame]

Is that sedition xP

[spare light]

Damnation

[steel flame]

Jk

[spare light]

Buff = bug, EP buff on Smite gets added to Surge damage

[clear heath]

wtf

[spare light]

Off to damnation with you!

[steel flame]

Lol

[rare storm]

What the fuck LOL

[clear heath]

does it consume the EP stack?

[rare storm]

^

[spare light]

https://streamable.com/3q8w21

It doesn't

[olive ember]

double damage on surge

[rare storm]

WHAT THE FUCK

[olive ember]

surge staff is officially not shit

thank fuck

[clear heath]

ok that's fucked up

[rare storm]

Surge was never shit

[olive ember]

it was pretty bad

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rare storm]

It was the most fun staff pre patch

no aim elite sniper

[steel flame]

God bless fatshark spaghetti code

[rare storm]

Holy shit

[brave fiber]

lmao that’s beyond busted

[analog agate]

Only weirdos like Arco use that combo

[humble star]

Ofc fatshark would somehow fuck up the EP buff to smite by making it also buff surge

[steel flame]

Does that double damage apply to the m1 or just the charge

[vagrant frigate]

yeah it good

[olive ember]

Arco doesn't even run that

[spare light]

tbf I don't think that's doable cause they had double EP stacks due to talent swap bug in meat grinder

[olive ember]

he used fucking warp flurry + focused channeling

[spare light]

but I can 2 shot a crusher if I crit

[analog agate]

Doesn’t he? He definitely just said he did yesterday

[summer prairie]

the double icon wasn't boosting damage twice

[spare light]

So how?!

HOOOW

[potent echo]

hows the void nerfs

[olive ember]

the surge rmb and smite are considered the same thing

[spare light]

Still strong af

[primal plume]

Psykers dome has an effect for expiring now instead of just poofing out of existance

[olive ember]

so EP effect surge rmb

thank fuck for that

[humble star]

Not how EP works

[vagrant frigate]

same level of nerf as assail

[spare light]

Yeah I realised that now

[potent echo]

so no nerf at all

[rare storm]

Gad damn

[potent echo]

all i see is psyker surge lmao

but has anyone tested the real buff of this patch

[summer prairie]

it was with full perfect timing stacks and +5% ranged damage node, +% elite dmg and +unyielding on the staff

[humble star]

Psykers are now the bug abuse class. New bugs every patch to abuse

[steel flame]

It really was a small nerf and a decrease vs carapace

[brave fiber]

yeah the staff bashes are op they one shot crushers now

[potent echo]

Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff

● Special Action Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):

○ 8, 11.2 to 25, 65.

● Special Action Armour Modifiers:

○ Unarmoured: 25% to 80%.

○ Flak: 50% to 30%.

○ Unyielding: 100% to 50%.

○ Maniac: 50% to 60%.

○ Carapace: 0% to 0%.

○ Infested: 75% to 100%.

0% to 0%

[vagrant frigate]

always have been

[clear heath]

staff bonk buffed

[edgy ibex]

Unarmoured 25 to 80

[potent echo]

im having too much fun playing kickback ogryn though

[humble star]

65 damage

[edgy ibex]

Cause not like I was nuking hordes already damn

Holy shit

[rare storm]

Nothing new it has always been and always will be

[potent echo]

yea nuking hordes with staff bonk

[clear heath]

special action is the bonk

[steel flame]

It's just the bonk

[edgy ibex]

Aww

[vagrant frigate]

downy tell him about the deimos macro

[edgy ibex]

Wtf they’re adjusting the bonk lmfaooo

That’s so funny to me idk why

[clear heath]

time for the epic bonk-only runs

[brave fiber]

smack people with the might of the emperor

[potent echo]

deimos got buffies?

[vagrant frigate]

YEP

[potent echo]

where

[edgy ibex]

“We need to adjust the staff hit” “the explosion?” “No. Hitting with the staff”

[carmine agate]

can i hold 2 purg staff at once?

[rare storm]

Hey hey hey it's not bad man HAHAHAH

[potent echo]

oh damn

it wasnt in the provisional

oh hot damnn

[humble star]

Too late, you must now nuke hordes with it

[edgy ibex]

Psyker walks in and channels mass energy of the warp just to smack you with the staff and make you fly away

Like a peasant

[vagrant frigate]

healthbar mod let's me pistol whip people when I see they're 1hp

[edgy ibex]

It will be done

[humble star]

65 damage time. Smite psykers drooling at the thought of so much damage

[edgy ibex]

Yeah I’ve learned how many hits to kill each enemy with oggie just to uppercut finish them

So they fly through the air

[steel flame]

Commitment

[edgy ibex]

It’s like instinct now

[empty onyx]

Ogryn learning to count?

[steel flame]

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[edgy ibex]

I just count to 2 and then restart

It’s 2 hits before uppercut. Eventually

[empty onyx]

Also, why count the hits when you can just uppercut until they're dead?

[edgy ibex]

Cause they just stumble and it feels underwhelming

Ruins it

Open hand slap is the one you spam

[empty onyx]

I require Fist Weapon for Ogryn!

[edgy ibex]

Ragers rush and I slap them away from teammates

Big ass hand just cutting the air

[near wyvern]

You would have to have a proper mod to notify you of True Aim 5 and weave like hell if that's what you mean. Assail would be the best blitz for that obviously.

I doubt it would be worth the trouble

But you never know for sure until you try

[orchid shadow]

I don't know if it's a new bug, but if you die before dropping down at the last part of Consignment Yard, it'll put you in the previous zone before the airlock and your team is screwed for the finale.

[rare storm]

I was wondering why this section looked oddly off, it's straight now lmao

[brave fiber]

cursed

[subtle flame]

soooo what’s good now?

[brave fiber]

whatever your heart desires

[dim parrot]

lol did the update drop today?

[orchid nest]

thats what arco does I think, rending and blaze and just procs them with melee

with true aim I mean

[summer prairie]

rampage damage buff (bug) + increased cleave makes DS lights nice https://streamable.com/828zt4

[normal matrix]

i've been running purg and wrath recently, been having fun with it

[ionic sorrel]

I wonder if the straight lines are easier for the controller?

[remote flower]

brain burst got buffed, im so happy

[summer prairie]

I think they slightly increased voidstrike charge peril generation, not sure if that was documented

[rare storm]

shiiiit maybe

[tropic lagoon]

How does empowered smite feel?

Do jobber enemies just pop?

[rare storm]

What's your staff and tree look like for this build if I may

[hallow needle]

noooooo

[spare light]

That wasn't me

[rare storm]

Ah shiiit

[ornate hamlet]

wasnt this 10%?

[spare light]

got nerfed

[ornate hamlet]

[brave fiber]

Cooldown prob better to take now imo

[gray crater]

anyone notice that brain burst is completely broken?

cant cast with empowered psi stacks

any idea where i can report bugs lol

[summer prairie]

apparently it was already bugged before this, with EP stacks + precharge it doesn't realize you have shorter charge, so you have to keep charging a bit longer despite the bar being full

[hallow needle]

stupid zealots just had to complain about psykers

now we getting the nerfs :(

[brave fiber]

good

[maiden hornet]

i mean assail still isn't nerfed

[tiny timber]

anyone else having trouble with staffs dropping input while charging? had this issue before patch 13 and havent had it at all in 13 but now its back.

[hallow needle]

they reduced its damage by a fifth

[brave fiber]

Even though I play mostly psyker I’m tired of newbie psykers joining auric damnation lobbies and dying immediately

[spare light]

I usually have that with vets

[maiden hornet]

damage was never the problem in my eyes, it's how quick it recharges

just the spammy nature of it and how effective it chews through hordes

[autumn smelt]

always better to take imo

[nocturne mural]

you mean while channeling?

[tiny timber]

yeah

[nocturne mural]

same here, was trying it in the psyk

fOking confused by it

[tiny timber]

its so annoying 😦

[nocturne mural]

surge is very strange to use

with this interruption

[brave fiber]

Before dmg was def better to take with high damage builds

[maiden hornet]

dropping input how? cause I am using the surge and never notice something strange going on

[tiny timber]

its dropping my right click while trying to charge surge for example

cant replicate it in psyk, seems to only happen during intense moments

[maiden hornet]

i've been holding right click to charge and just pressing left click to fire . It seems to be fine. if it is intense moment base maybe it is to do with the servers or the pc? i have no idea

[spice oar]

EP SMITE is fucking amazing when running venting shriek holy shit

[still hearth]

Now do it with Surge

[spice oar]

surge is a bug tho

[still hearth]

Everything is a bug

[rare storm]

Psyker is a class made with bugs

[potent echo]

did they change scrier

[spice oar]

all i see is intentional game design (bugs are just a lil warp fuckery)

[potent echo]

im guessing no

[spice oar]

i think they did?

[copper torrent]

🤫

[still hearth]

They did a minor fix iirc

[spice oar]

yeah other than that its still just fun gaze

[potent echo]

Combat ability - Scrier’s Gaze
● Fixed an issue where sound effects were not turned on and off properly when
activating “Scrier’s Gaze”

lmao

[rare storm]

Hello sir sorry for ping, may I know what your tree/staff look like

did you have + unyielding?

[summer prairie]

it was with +8% elite and +25% unyielding on the staff, perfect timing stacks, warp rider

I think cdr aura instead of elite dmg

80 dmg and 78 crit dmg staff

[raw token]

wth, they thought this needed buffs??

[vocal sundial]

it was only supposed to affect the weaker marks

but then the devs put it on all the swords :3

[summer prairie]

they didn't fix the other marks

[rare storm]

ayee thank you

[summer prairie]

The modest heavy dmg buffs were probably due to adjusting elite hp

[raw token]

lmao just reading these notes for the first time, they literally didnt fix anything that was busted

[crude cape]

so does the psyker smite change, mean smite with warp charges wont be as good anymore? (how i was using it) is the +125% dmg on it gonna be better on empowered psyonics?

I was using a surge staff + smite warp charges build, horde clear was using smite + vent with soulblaze...but that got nerfed too : (

[rare storm]

Hmm normally would you run unyielding?

[summer prairie]

no

[rare storm]

Just for the sake of big stonk dmg ya

aye

[summer prairie]

right now I might run it, but without the dmg bug you want flak

[raw token]

ohhh nvm did do something to voidstrike

[tall mango]

i did a small test and a single use of smite with EP can kill like, a sniper ora hound

[raw token]

does it still one shot everything with a crit?

[rare storm]

Yep figured as well, aite thank you my friend

[tender mica]

The deactivating sound worked just fine before, it was the sound of me exploding right?

[summer prairie]

you can definitely feel the dmg nerfs vs ogryns in particular

[fresh reef]

Can I run Void without feeling gross now? updating rn

[crude cape]

dueling swords harder to 1 shot mutants now, ya?

rip

[raw token]

thought its easier

[bronze hound]

Guys, are wound curios good for psykers?

[fresh reef]

no

[bronze hound]

then, health or toughness?

[fresh reef]

personal preference, mostly

+stamina is also nice to have

[raw token]

stats say health, chads say toughness

[bronze hound]

I'm running +1 wound, health and toughness

[lyric burrow]

I find it unnecessary with kinetic deflection otherwise yeah i run it

Nah usually no wound

[fresh reef]

It's less for blocking and more for mobility

though it does help with KD somewhat

[edgy ibex]

Facts

Chad toughness with peril regen

[bronze hound]

And best curios stats? toughness regen? Ability?

[lyric burrow]

Wounds aren't great unless your running matyrdom zealot

[frigid sparrow]

I've been looking through the change log and didn't see many changes for soulblaze/purgatus interactions? Just the bash with the staff right?

Wounds are amazing with zealot period, don't even need marty if you don't want it

[raw token]

i always make sure to have toughness% + ability cooldown%, third is whatever you can get

[bronze hound]

Yeah, 7 wounds on zealot and it is great

[fresh reef]

I think only Void got substantial changes

[crude cape]

thoughts on something like this post patch, with a surge or trauma staff?
I have 1 more point, any suggestions what to do with it?

[woven crypt]

I keep seeing motherfuckers with smite just melt shit how do you do this

[fresh reef]

though Surge gibs now, which is fucking sweet

[lyric burrow]

Id use trauma

With that

Bb will be redundant even with non powered up surge

[crude cape]

BB is good for ranged shooters too far, snipers, bombers idk i still feel they fill different tool sets

but ya i think this is more a trauma build

did void get nerfed?

im in meat grinder and it still feels insane

[lyric burrow]

Yeah but still broken

I prefer trauma on that build i run a very similar one

But up to you

[crude cape]

like how much did they nerf it

[lyric burrow]

Blazing trauma with mk4 duelling to be exact

[crude cape]

im still basically 3 shotting crushers

and 1-2 shotting everything else

with void lol

[lyric burrow]

I think it mainly doesnt stagger lock monstrosities and just does a little less damage to cara/unyielding

They need to really hit it

[crude cape]

im not sure i like blazing trauma as much as the standard anti-armor one. not sure the tradeoff is actually worth the flam dmg isnt huge, but ya i have both

[fresh reef]

the problem is more with the Surge blessing than it is with Void tbh

[crude cape]

i probably need a better one for blazing these are my 2

does surge blessing work on surge staff, btw?

on the rmb?

[fresh reef]

Nah

for Trauma and Surge staff it applies only to the M1

[crude cape]

such a rip

i knew trauma wasnt sure on surge

ive been liking the surge staff a lot since patch 13 actually

it was akward at first but its dps single target rips

[lyric burrow]

Even base void feels too strong

[fresh reef]

Trauma blasts with surge would be utterly digusting

2000+ damage in a single cast

[summer prairie]

with a longish charge time

[lyric burrow]

Id prefer they neuter its carapace/unyielding damage and give it to surge to make it somewhat of an interesting choice

[idle bay]

I accidentialy made a Vet that Immune to snipers...

I mean they can't break my Toughness on Heresy. Now need to check on Damnation 🙂

[crude cape]

agreed, make void the specialist, ranged and horde clear weapon paired with trauma

nuke its armor dmg

[raw token]

ok so this staff doesnt one shot a crusher when it crits, but it does put them down to like 1hp

[crude cape]

and let surge be the anti armor specialist

[raw token]

also wont oneshot the bulwark, but does one shot a gunner

[summer prairie]

it would be basically unusable if it didn't one-shot elite gunners

[raw token]

no i mean the ripper

and actually i just tried on the bulwark again and it did this time, i guess i missed the head the first time

ah nevermind that was rending lol

[charred cloud]

so not only is kinetic presence 5% less damage, but it also doesn't work on specials i guess? just tried against mutant with and without it, did the same damage.

[fresh reef]

common Kinetic Presence L

[rare storm]

+carapace or +unyielding? Which is better in terms of damage overall

[harsh urchin]

depends on weapon

[rare storm]

Ehh void?

and surge I guess

[pine tundra]

Worth getting from melk?

[harsh urchin]

probably crit + unyielding

[rare storm]

For surge too?

[harsh urchin]

surge idk

[rare storm]

Hmm aite

[harsh urchin]

need to test

[verbal bear]

Thats pretty pog

[fresh reef]

what's psyker's weapon for monstrosities now?

[harsh urchin]

gun or melee

[verbal bear]

Void with surge and surge staff with the smite EP buff blasts

[blissful token]

Just popping in to say that Enhanced Smite applying stacks of Soulblaze over time or after X seconds affecting a target would be kinda neat as a buff maybe. I haven't played with Smite since it was changed this patch but it felt weak before

[shadow wigeon]

is staff LMB supposed to be a machine gun?

[edgy cedar]

Its kind of odds mite doesnt cause soulblaze really

[elfin crystal]

smite's not really weak. you just need allies that can actually deal damage

[fierce crest]

Smite is actually incredibly strong

[elfin crystal]

it's a greeat cc yeah

[verbal bear]

It has giga clutch value but yeah you need people with brains

[fierce crest]

It's like giving all your teammates Assail

[elfin crystal]

assuming people can take advantage of it

[crude cape]

been having success with this with a surge staff, discussed it with someone in here and ended up liking it a week or two ago.

But with the new changes, the build relied on soulblaze + vent to kill hordes. That got nerfed, any suggestions? Basically trying to find a build that feels good with Surge Staff, doesn't have to be this if it doesn't work as well anymore

[elfin crystal]

crit surge probably still works reasonably well?

[royal granite]

smite is pretty acceptable for killing hordes with EP

[verbal bear]

Go EP, 125% smite damage buff applies to surge staff now

[crude cape]

how would you talent build that? the surge im using is warp nexus/warp flurry

[patent fiber]

surge chads stay winning, dont fix this we need it

[royal granite]

(i think, i need to actually go test that)

[crude cape]

does casting the surge staff also consume a stack? im in the meat grinder now i have to try this wtf you for real lol

[verbal bear]

No it doesnt

[elfin crystal]

i euh. haven't touched mine in a lil and i'm not close to my pc 😔

[verbal bear]

It feels amazing

[shadow wigeon]

What got nerfed about it? i must have missed that.

[trail forge]

is this staff any good

[edgy cedar]

Surge has like the worst pool of blessings imagingable

[trail forge]

ok but is this one any good

[verbal bear]

You just have to go flurry + nexus

[rare storm]

That's pretty good

Just get replace the barrage for nexus

Kinda bricked on the perks

but it's still good

[shadow wigeon]

Good but not great. I woulnd't spend milkbucks on that necessarily.

[trail forge]

what about this

[edgy cedar]

Also yes Smite bonus does apply to surge because lol

[rare storm]

O it's using those

er then not worth it imo

nah this is way worse

I'd skip this store roll if I were you @trail forge

[crude cape]

reduced soulflame stacks on venting shriek quell, the build relied on that for horde clear bc it ran smite, surge staff and dueling sword lol
it still works, just less dmg/need higher peril to kill zombies

[edgy cedar]

what? Venting is still 1-6 stacks

its combustion that got nerfed to 3 from 4

[trail forge]

what about my current staff what could i do to improve it

[shadow wigeon]

i dont see any change to shriek

[urban echo]

I gotta get a better surge staff mines is shit

[crude cape]

ah im wrong, it was just perilous combustion on elite kill was reduced

thats not so bad

[rare storm]

Err transfer peril doesn't work well on trauma (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) since you'd spend most of the time using charged attacks

Sprint efficiency is just dog in general

would go with crit chance

[trail forge]

so change sprint effiicency for crit chance?

[rare storm]

Change transfer peril to blaze and you'll be good

[rare storm]

yerr

and watch the world burn

the unarmored...

is kinda sad

but fine for wave clearing

Which is what you'd be using it for anyway

[keen pawn]

just saw the update, has anyone played yet? are psykers balanced better or hella nerfed?

[trail forge]

wait 10% range critical hit damage?

[rare storm]

no, crit chance

[trail forge]

increase ranged critical strike chance by 5%?

[rare storm]

ye

[trail forge]

i can change it what would i change it to

[shadow wigeon]

If you want to try a more violent version of surge+creeping flames: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a74a677-f9ff-40e7-9c82-d62d0795529f/hectic-surge-8

[rare storm]

You only get 2 changes

[trail forge]

thats my second change slot

[crude cape]

omg, i just tested what was said before and the Empowered Psionics damage bonus DOES apply to surge staff charged attack.
Holy fuck

is this a bug and will be fixed do we think? its HUGE. Its doing way more dmg than even having max warp charges or anything. 600-800 dmg per charge on a crusher, to 1200-1800 with crits on the same crusher with an empowered psyonics stack, surge might be insane now lol

[rare storm]

huh

[shadow wigeon]

I assume it is a bug, yes.

[edgy cedar]

Of course its a bug lol

does the change mention Surge? no

is it fatshark copypaste coding? yes

[rare storm]

transfer peril -> blaze spirit / sprint efficiency -> crit chance

Do these 2

@trail forge

[keen pawn]

time to test voidstrike

let's hope it's not hella nerfed

[edgy cedar]

run-n-gun would be fun if you could surge charge while sprinting 😦

[trail forge]

i already changed the first to unarmoured 25% because it was even worse than sprint efficiency before hand

[lethal lagoon]

I assume the bug exists because smite bonuses were effecting surge, but it's really confusing why this happens because empowered never affected surge staff before

[trail forge]

so ive used up my two change slots on the refiniing of perks

[lethal lagoon]

Oh well, psykers back to being OP as shit.

[rare storm]

o I did not notice that, I thought it was a clean staff

[near wyvern]

Run n gun is pointless, you can do one cast while spring sliding of you quell cancel it

Achieves the same

LMB cast that is

[keen pawn]

I hate that, because all the flavor of the month players gravitate towards psyker and don't really know how to play the class, they just want to be OP

[trail forge]

no the unarmoured replaced like... level 1 +1 stamina whilst weapon active

it was really bad

[lethal lagoon]

Just imagine all the xbox players who leveled as OP psykers and will have 0 clue how to play once they are finally balanced.

[trail forge]

but this is the best staff role ive gotten for a bit because my staff rolls have been terrible

[keen pawn]

I wonder how assail is now, because it's one thing to read the notes, but it's another when you're playing them

[shadow wigeon]

Assail is also still busted

[shadow wigeon]

Mild nerf. Ran a whole level with only assail. You can't kill crusher, muties or bursters (easily), and you cant yolo solo with only assail.... but that's about it.

[worthy slate]

whats with the purple assail

[hazy cedar]

God I wish surge had blazing spirit

[near wyvern]

They needed to reduce the spammines so the solution was to do nothing about it but do a minor damage nerf on spam and major damage buff on RMB

[near wyvern]

Crit shard

Has a different visual

[rare storm]

eh... shouldn't have brought the staff to yellow in the first place then... but anyway I guess since you've done both perks -> crit chance and maniac

[near wyvern]

Just like crit LMB staff bolts have orange glow

[shadow wigeon]

The damag buff on RMB doesnt even matter much, I just went back to LMB spam anyway.

[trail forge]

it was the best staff roll ive gotten

you underestimate how bad my staff rolls are

[keen pawn]

voidstrike feels much weaker against the big guys, but I can still eventually kill them. Did they massively buff the maulers? because they take longer to kill for me... granted I do have unyielding on my staff.

[rare storm]

I've had bad rolls too

[idle bay]

Re-tested it. Damnation sniper can't break Vet's toughness if build is right.

[near wyvern]

Try it with hand cannon and True Aim, throw 4 LMB and then 1 RMB and repeat

[rare storm]

Guess im just more picky

[keen pawn]

impressive, what do you have

[shadow wigeon]

I did briefly, I just couldn't be bothered to continue because LMB spam was sufficient.

[shadow wigeon]

I haven't tried it yet. Health values were buffed so your breakpoints are all different now.

[silent coral]

is flak + manic still the BIS perk slot combo for voidstrike after the nerfs?

[keen pawn]

I can still knock them down, so that's fine.

[idle bay]

I need few minutes with build editor 🙂

[keen pawn]

I refuse to put two +damage bonuses on my staff, I'd rather have 5% crit chance so I can proc the double shot blessing more often

[keen pawn]

thank you, asking for a friend because he's always bitching about veteran sucking at everything. (he refuses to do the meta of infinite ammo on auto lasgun, go figure)

[shadow wigeon]

The only thing I can say is that Assail at least feels like a bit more work now, so maybe that will keep people from spamming it.

[idle bay]

I do Plasma it rocks 🙂

[shy fiber]

Thank god

[crude cape]

lol ya that makes sense, its pretty nuts.

my dueling sword is having a hard time 1 shotting mutants now, anyone else? if i dont have warp stacks or high peril i cant

[silent coral]

pistol vets been great even before the buffs now pistol is even more godly

[keen pawn]

I'll have to let him know

he wanted to use pistol too

but he wanted something against snipers

[keen pawn]

nice

it's a shame that even before the patch, some assail psykers couldn't even abuse it. Somehow.

[hoary badge]

plasma does pretty well on sniper duty

[bold flint]

infinite ammo is dead btw

[keen pawn]

yeah I saw a veteran sniping the shit out of everything and I was surprised. Had good aim though, so I'd say it's less about the gun and more about just being good lol

[keen pawn]

that's fine, he never used it lol. I also don't even have a veteran leveled yet, the only class I don't have.

I'll probably run pistol