#psyker-class

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spice veldt
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the only cost it had before was me picking kinetic flayer

gusty furnace
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There's very slim pickings for melee enemies to kill that give you warp charges

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Oh, and you spent all your warp charges

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so now BB doesn't one-shot specials/elites

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so you BB them once

willow escarp
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good thing you have your powerful brain bur— oh wait

gusty furnace
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and your team kills it

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taking away your warp charge

still hearth
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Your team would kill them anyways

gusty furnace
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Very fun synergy all around thumbsup_ogryn

summer prairie
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it will still one-shot the ones you tend to bb anyway

still hearth
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Because 2+s is too long

gusty furnace
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with BB

still hearth
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Ye

gusty furnace
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So the change literally just shits all over brainburst

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And you're. . . okay with that

still hearth
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I mean they should just make using your ult be worth losing the 24% damage (which it is on blazing shout)

gusty furnace
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"The ability was already bad, but I'm fine with it being even worse"

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Is a crazy take

still hearth
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I mean I just want them to make BB good without having to use your ult lmao

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Idgaf that warp charges are spent on your ult

summer prairie
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i'd still take it over most grenades

gusty furnace
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just fucking give BB one-shot BPs on every enemy but crushers, reapers, and bulwarks.

EDIT: And mutants

still hearth
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And most people don't outside of BB

willow escarp
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the worst part is the only argument made so far is “well it had to be worse because now the other ults exist and they aren’t as good”

still hearth
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I mean right now it will one-shot BP most enemies except the hyper buffed ragers, muties and ogryn without warp charges I think

gusty furnace
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No

still hearth
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From the patch 14 buff

gusty furnace
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Well, with the patch 14 buff maybe

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I dunno

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These hp changes rub me the wrong way anyway

still hearth
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But the big issue I have is still the cast time

gusty furnace
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Everything's a god damn bullet sponge now

still hearth
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And how LMB and RMB are the same

gusty furnace
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I hate guns in darktide atm Sitgryn

still hearth
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But for "different" uses

analog agate
willow escarp
still hearth
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Vraks 3 one-bursting most things

vital flint
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Yeah, vraks is funny

still hearth
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Agrip brauto still mowing down enemies

willow escarp
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I personally am in favor of their current idea of toning down elite spawn and raising elite power

vital flint
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Is vraks VII any good though?

still hearth
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Not rn

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After patch probably

vital flint
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Been trying to find a second "gunker" build and vraks Vii seemed lackluster last game

spice veldt
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it's just melee elites and mutants that got a buff and it's kind of deserved

still hearth
gusty furnace
vital flint
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Yeah, Kantrael XII is always amazing tho

gusty furnace
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Revolver at least has one-shot breakpoints on nearly everything with critical hits.

still hearth
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Revolver. Agrip shotgun. XII.

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I mean there's a lot of stuff that sucks sure but they're buffing them.

gusty furnace
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Oh yeah, MG12. Toss that onto the pile.

willow escarp
gusty furnace
willow escarp
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you did name every gun I use though LOL

gusty furnace
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Enemies got tanky because new abilities

willow escarp
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Wel except void

gusty furnace
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instead of just balancing the abilities around enemy hp

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FUCKING ASSAIL

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Even with buffed enemy HP, still incredibly overpowered KEKW_ogryn

vital flint
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Yeah, assail is funny

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See those 4 shotgunners there?

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Bum gone

gusty furnace
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But like, enemies are just god damn bullet sponges.

vital flint
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Reduced to atoms

gusty furnace
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If you don't use what

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one of 6 weapons?

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For regular humans.

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And all of ogryn's kit.

vital flint
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Meanwhile brain burst only works with EP

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(although I do find it quite enjoyable to use)

gusty furnace
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The staggered releases of buffed enemies and buffed weapons has made the game extremely tedious to play without meta options.

vital flint
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I mean, the worst scenario, the game feels worse to play for a couple weeks and then they release another patch

still hearth
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The game has been tedious playing without meta options for a long time though

gusty furnace
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But it still has 90 damage

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So like

vital flint
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I mean, aren't all tide games like that?

gusty furnace
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Wooo bullet sponge hell

still hearth
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Next patch at least means we'll get more good options

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Hopefully

vital flint
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Vermintide 2 is also quite painful to play with certain weapons imo

gusty furnace
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a flak machinegunner has 1200 hp

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24 bullets to kill one enemy

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Which is okay if you're using Fury Zealot

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because it affects attack speed on automatic weapons now

willow escarp
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also puri this is my blaze trauma psycho tree that ignores soulblaze lol

gusty furnace
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So you can brace it under Fury and get hilarious DPS

vital flint
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Wait

gusty furnace
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"I want all of the toughness, and I want it now"

vital flint
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Holy cow

gusty furnace
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Naw I respect Atlas' decisions.

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No what the fuck here.

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Just unmitigated respect.

vital flint
still hearth
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This is an affront to the Emperor.

willow escarp
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pulled some wicked clutches

vital flint
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Although tbh, monkey see blue flame, monke happy

willow escarp
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ill do anything for mind in motion anyways whatthefuck_heresy

analog agate
still hearth
willow escarp
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no joke

still hearth
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IT IS A JOKE AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE

willow escarp
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i could swap the movement speed node for perilous combustion

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maybe

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it's not a joke!

still hearth
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They just enjoyj running the worst build

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I guess

willow escarp
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l0l

still hearth
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At least run 6 warp charges you criminal

willow escarp
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ill have to take video next time

vital flint
analog agate
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I assume it is. Cause that build ain’t it

gusty furnace
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Now Fury affects fire rate on EVERYTHING

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melee weapons and guns

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regardless of their functions

vital flint
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It's kinda sad my only zealot build with fury doesn't really need an automatic gun

gusty furnace
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So you get uh

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What's Fury's attack speed bonus?

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20%?

vital flint
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Yeah

gusty furnace
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So you get +30% DPS when bracing the graia brauto

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10% from brace, 20% from fury

willow escarp
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ogryn heavy hitter boosting gun fire rate also is hilarious

still hearth
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What

slow edge
still hearth
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What is this Fury you're talking about

gusty furnace
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Zealot's old Wrath ult

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or whatever it was called

still hearth
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Ahh

gusty furnace
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Its Fury of the something now

vital flint
still hearth
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Right

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I mean that's normal

gusty furnace
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You can magdump the bolter even faster whatthefuck_heresy

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Bolter still dogshit

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so don't do that

willow escarp
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takes more time to wield it than to dump it

still hearth
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Do it coward

gusty furnace
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But you know, the option is always there

still hearth
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Play with the bolter

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You encouraged the shitty no soulblaze build

gusty furnace
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I played two matches with bolter

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I've never hated myself more.

still hearth
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It's time to suffer

gusty furnace
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I felt so bad for my team

willow escarp
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even pre patch i hated bolter

gusty furnace
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Bolter has never been good.

willow escarp
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too slow

still hearth
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Same.

willow escarp
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based

gusty furnace
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It was pinning fire that made it good

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But bolter itself has never been good

still hearth
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It was nice to blast some crusher groups

gusty furnace
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On veteran: One shot breakpoints on elites and specials

On zealot: Literally only used for crushers

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And. . . now you can't even do that KEKW_ogryn

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Its got no reason to exist

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Veteran should take plasma over it, and zealot should take revolver

willow escarp
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especially since crushers are babies now

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but we'll see next patch

gusty furnace
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wat

willow escarp
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crushers babies

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die fast

gusty furnace
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I mean I guess? Sorta?

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They have 2500 hp

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3000?

still hearth
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That's mostly because rending rn

gusty furnace
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something like that

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But yeah, its because of rending.

willow escarp
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yeah everyone having rending

still hearth
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Everyhting has rending

gusty furnace
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Not because they're weak.

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adding rending to skill trees was a fuckin mistake

willow escarp
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it's all relative puri

gusty furnace
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and should be removed from the game fullstop

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Just like. . .

willow escarp
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also bleed

gusty furnace
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for the sake of long term balance

willow escarp
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synergizing with rending

gusty furnace
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I like that rending is simple maff now

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But adding it to skill trees and so easily accessible was fucking stupid

valid talon
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Man I hate ya'll on this discord im a new player fightin for my life on normal damnnation and ppl be like "games too easy please nerf everything and buff the enemies" please i'm dying here

willow escarp
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they have a really bad inclination to just add abilities that are "+% damage" lol

olive ember
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I think tending is aight I just don’t know why it’s so easy to get

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Like vet has like 3 different ways to get rending from talent tree

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Ogryn had one or two right

gusty furnace
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@olive ember I guess with all of these skill trees you gave me, you use deflector force swords?

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I'm aware that blocking in general hits peril first

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so its good for things like rezzing

olive ember
willow escarp
gusty furnace
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But I value the force sword deflector memes very highly

gusty furnace
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Block Cost Reduction whatthefuck_heresy

willow escarp
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wow

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pretty good

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and slaughterer over unstable

olive ember
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But yeah fs still generally pgood

gusty furnace
willow escarp
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i did use dueling sword a lot prepatch but now im afraid ill have to take my flannels off if i do so

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sold it

olive ember
gusty furnace
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Definitely now

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since the enemy hp buffs

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Deimos is unuseably bad uncharged without slaughterer stacks up

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It was okay before

willow escarp
gusty furnace
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now its just dogshit

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Should slap on unstable power

willow escarp
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not when you have constant buffs from your warp charges AND the funny thing that gives you power for 10s after crit

gusty furnace
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my force sword blessing sticker book will make someone jealous

willow escarp
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that you dont take with blazing trauma bc coward

gusty furnace
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Uh

willow escarp
gusty furnace
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Unstable Power still stacks 4 times right?

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So its +80% power at 80% peril?

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something like that

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might be 3 times I'm unsure on the specifics

spice veldt
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+20%, if they didn't mess anything up

gusty furnace
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Oh

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So its just 20% power at 80% peril?

spice veldt
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ye

gusty furnace
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Didn't it stack way higher than that in patch 12

spice veldt
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no

gusty furnace
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Maybe I'm just ogryning

spice veldt
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5% power per stack

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gain a stack at 20/40/60/80% peril thresholds

gusty furnace
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God fatshark really needs to work on their tooltips

spice veldt
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simply intuit through the morphogenetic field the specifics of how a blessing works

olive ember
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Should have descriptions in the thing

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Maybe it doesn’t 🤔

vital flint
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Ok, graia is a funny gun

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Although it feels like it has low damage

gusty furnace
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Jesus smite is terrible

gusty furnace
olive ember
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Smite is kinda

willow escarp
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is smite as bad as old surge?

olive ember
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Well you need warp charges for it to work basically if you aren’t bug abusing

vital flint
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I mean, it can have a purpose seeing as you still have a ranged slot

vital flint
olive ember
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Its strong in the fact that you can CC like entire hordes n shit but the peril gen is kinda meh and the damage is also meh

muted galleon
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I don't know where to ask so I guess I'll ask here

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Is there a class/sub class with a good mix of fun and strong?

vital flint
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I mean, all the autoguns make me feel like I have to have god aim and headshot constantly for them to be worth

olive ember
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All the classes are overtuned rn besides maybe vet, which is getting a rework

willow escarp
muted galleon
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Any

willow escarp
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ogryn 10/10 fun and strong

gusty furnace
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Go

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go little pal

muted galleon
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Lmao

gusty furnace
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and live your dreams

muted galleon
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Okay

olive ember
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Literally pick anything they can all be strong. If you want specifically meta prob ogryn or psyker

vital flint
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Promoting the big man I see

olive ember
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Zealot is haha can’t die tho

gusty furnace
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please don't make people cry by starting with veteran

olive ember
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Vets still pretty strong I heard just not

vital flint
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Didn't know vet was so bad

olive ember
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“Delete room” or “literally can’t die” strong

willow escarp
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strongest ✅
toughest ✅
meanest ✅

vital flint
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I haven't seen many

gusty furnace
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If by "Strong" you mean "gets deleted in melee unless you have one hyper specific build" then sure

olive ember
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Ehh that’s more of a player issue

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They have claw and chain swords it ain’t hard to kill horde for em

valid talon
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I find it kinda unfortunate that the veteran is the worst in melee, even worse than psyker

willow escarp
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they’re finally fixing veterans cardio right?

olive ember
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Tho if they were the afk stand there and unwavering focus vet

gusty furnace
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Yeah I'm not gonna play veteran when I can have infinite toughness on psyker for using my force sword, lose no toughness in melee on zealot and ogryn because damage reduction

valid talon
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Like the psyker has the bloody dueling sword

gusty furnace
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There's nothing veteran does better than any of the other three classes

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and he's distinctly worse at melee to boot

wet belfry
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Tbh dueling sword single target weapon

gusty furnace
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So its like. . .

gusty furnace
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meh

olive ember
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It’s their only purpose KEKW_ogryn

fading gale
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Praise the emperor, got this after a mission reward

valid talon
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They're better at getting rid of specials

wet belfry
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Its not comparable to veteran weapons.

valid talon
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But not by far

willow escarp
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do people really not talk about the illisi anymore?

wet belfry
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They literary have two differnent jobs.

willow escarp
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dueling sword really took over the mental space

olive ember
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But vet is apparently getting reworked to get keystones again

gusty furnace
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and kills crushers in two or three

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So like. . . why use anything else

olive ember
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Tho they are apparently slated for some nerfs before they get the reworked n buffed

gusty furnace
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when that's all you use melee for on psyker anyway

olive ember
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Actually is vet getting nerfed?

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I remember hearing some Reddit vets cry about getting nerfed

spice veldt
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mk4 ds is the deimos except both heavies are good, and they gave me the assail, so I swapped over from the illisi

gusty furnace
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rending nodes are getting nerfed

olive ember
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Ah

wet belfry
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Rending went from 15 to 10

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Other rending change isnt a nerf

olive ember
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Meh I’m assuming the rework will bring em back in line

valid talon
willow escarp
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well guess we’ll see how it shakes out after the muties buff

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muties are way too weak rn anyways

spice veldt
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we also live in an era of elite spam

valid talon
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Heavy attack can already one shot most specials

wet belfry
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Its a buff for near all cases

valid talon
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Lets buff it

olive ember
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Dswords in the awkward position where if they get nerfed to lose their one shot they instantly become useless

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Because the deimos exists

willow escarp
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d sword crab walking will never be dethroned

spice veldt
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depends on what kind of nerfs you're talking about

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like if you're cutting their damage in half, sure

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i'm sure there are some reasonable nerfs you can do without crippling them

olive ember
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Should fix their rampage

gusty furnace
wet belfry
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“Talent “Exploit Weakness”
● Increased from 2.5% Brittleness to 10% and set max stacks to 2”

gusty furnace
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so it makes sense to buff their cleave to 3 or 4

olive ember
wet belfry
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This is a veteran change

gusty furnace
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also allows you to actually proc rampage reliably

spice veldt
wet belfry
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This btw is in no ways a nerf

olive ember
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I suppose so but l1 does heavy damage for deimos

spice veldt
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but not on the level of the h2

valid talon
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The attack patterns leave some to be desired however

spice veldt
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and you have to use some APM to do an l1 -> h2 loop

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unlike the mk4 where you just spam LMB

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let's not pretend that the deimos doesn't have some clunkiness

gusty furnace
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deimos is definitely clunky

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I'm just sad that light attacks are so bad now Sitgryn

spice veldt
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and the duelling sword having a mildly more used special

gusty furnace
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Slaughterer Nerf on top of Enemy Hp buffs made it pretty madge to use

olive ember
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Aren’t all the force swords getting buffed next patch?

willow escarp
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the Deimos special could use uh

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something

olive ember
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Or does that not include the lights

willow escarp
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maybe the enemy should explode, that would be fun

wet belfry
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I personally think that dueling sword right now isn't broken when compared to other standards of weapons.

willow escarp
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it only needs to be compared to other psyker melee weapons tho

wet belfry
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Its a single target focused weapon that fulfills that purpose well.

olive ember
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Most people here just think everything is overtuned and needs nerfs kekw

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Tho honestly at this point I’m starting to genuinely think they should just make difficulty 6

willow escarp
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they’re still refining current difficulty

wet belfry
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Until i see dueling sword do everything in the game with no problem i wont think its broken.

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Right now its bad against hordes.

spice veldt
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damage aside, the mk4 is also an easy weapon to use
weapons should at the very least be mildly balanced around their ease of use

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and things are changing a lot so it's not as though we can make the fine tweaks that I'd like

olive ember
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That’s not what’s been done historically tbh

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Even in like VT2 the meta bardin loadout is literally just dual hammers (spam the fuck out of things) and rifle which is just point click delete

spice veldt
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true we should stick to history

olive ember
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Yes

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And this is why psyker should be strongest class

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Like sienna battlewizard before it

wet belfry
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The ogryns are coming :p

olive ember
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Psyker supremacy PSYKER SUPREMACY

vital flint
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Even more difficult weapons in vermintide aren't that hard to use

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Like the billhook

olive ember
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I don’t have that

vital flint
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And even then, they are harder to learn but they don't surpass easier weapons because of it

olive ember
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Is it good

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Idk if I wanna buy the dlc for it

shut breach
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It's long

olive ember
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Then I gotta deal with cow people disgust

vital flint
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Imo it's amazing, I like it, especially on WHC

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Because it's special attack which can be spammed to hell and beyond does instakill on crit

shut breach
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Basically the precursor to all the darktide stagger special weapons

queen fog
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yo @twin aurora heres my surge stick since im back home

safe mango
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should i change anything on this

shut breach
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your weapon special pulls the guy it hits forwards and can interupt a chaos overhead

safe mango
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seems good

vital flint
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It can stagger chaos warriors

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Yeah

shut breach
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no investment needed

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just a lil stamina cost

vital flint
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And on whc it has good synergy with flense

twin aurora
vital flint
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But it's attack pattern can be quite cofnusing at first

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At the same time, I wouldn't say it's better than rapier

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Rapier can kill elites better, is probably a bit worse against hordes

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But they feel balanced when compared to eachother

shut breach
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The main advantage it has is range IMO

vital flint
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(Which is to say, they both outclass the rest lol)

wet belfry
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Imange if we gave sienna the rapier.

plucky flax
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Some players are legit worse than bots. 😭

austere wadi
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My shop is so sad to look at...

spare sail
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ew

austere wadi
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agreed

full panther
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Antax is the good axe right?

jaunty zenith
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whats the best rapier?

analog agate
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Mkiv for heavies

plucky flax
olive ember
idle bay
tidal scaffold
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which one do yall reccomend?

idle bay
gusty furnace
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flamer staff is funish I guess

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the range always makes a little sad

waxen igloo
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Assail, surge staff?, dueling sword? Wondering what a good endgame combo is

gusty furnace
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this is the weirdest emperor's gift I've ever gotten

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its. . . basically what you're looking for

olive ember
gusty furnace
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but like, one step below perfect in every single way KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
gusty furnace
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ew

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meta psyker solutions

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leave some fun for the rest of the team

olive ember
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simply kill things better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

gusty furnace
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walk into room

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enemies instantly dead

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Ah yes, this is a ME issue

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and not an assail issue

tidal scaffold
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I hate assail

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as other classes

olive ember
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There’s travel time simply run in and kill

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XD

gusty furnace
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assail should've had like

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3 knives

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and a 60 second cooldown

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and gigadamage

tidal scaffold
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but its a me issue cause i play on lower diff than most and assail will just clear a whole poxhorde

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and im like

olive ember
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That’s just BB 2.0

gusty furnace
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basically rock

tidal scaffold
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but i wanted to slash

gusty furnace
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but for psyker

olive ember
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I’m not particularly sure cuz i think assail was meant to be a quick swap weapon

gusty furnace
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Yeah that's dumb strategizing.

olive ember
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Like it fits in the tree like that next to malefic momementum n all that

gusty furnace
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It should have next to no damage if its gonna be quickswap and infinite

hazy cedar
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Actually psyker having a "long" cool down blitz would be pretty cool. Just as an option

olive ember
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But it’s just spam

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Just lower capacity and regen so you can quick swap throw 2 and move on

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And if you spam the fuck out of it well tada you have no knives

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But idek

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They are doing this damage transfer thingy that I don’t get

spice veldt
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should be quickswap and low capacity

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no need for a damage buff because you can throw it out and just use your other weapons while the shards out

idle bay
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I'll miss the spammable Domes the most after Patch 14 sigh

nimble adder
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Shît you psykers really do rely on shards and smite

spice veldt
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assail gaming

idle bay
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I never missed a chance to draw a dick with Domes. At least 1 per run....

nimble adder
olive ember
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I don’t use shards or smite unless I’m tryharding what?

dim parrot
spice veldt
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true assail should be buffed to 20 shards

dim parrot
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lol

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infinite shards lmao

idle bay
lethal lagoon
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20 shards? Why does it even have a limit. BR and Smite don't. Just give us endless.

spice veldt
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i'm gonna shard

dim parrot
lethal lagoon
dim parrot
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perfect

plucky flax
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Waiting for patch to play buffed illisi be like

dim parrot
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wich is better siblings?

plucky flax
#

Bruh me eyes.

idle bay
plucky flax
#

Window key + shift + s please

plucky flax
#

With enemy hp increase maybe it'll be the same damage wise.

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But cleave buff is extra nice for light spam.

idle bay
lethal lagoon
#

Force swords are getting a damage buff to make up for no more unlimited dodges

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

It's not about great or not, just trading off

plucky flax
#

I am not complaining illisi is my favourite melee.

dim parrot
idle bay
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Deflector absolutely should be built in, I've had the opinion since beta.

plucky flax
#

They shafted its heavy attacks.

lethal lagoon
#

They finally added that extra shooter to vets(which has been a complaint since beta) maybe they'll add deflector to force sword finally.

idle bay
gusty furnace
lethal lagoon
#

Sniper immunity is just skill issue, meh.

#

No thx

gusty furnace
#

it has no reason to exist at all right now

plucky flax
#

The swaggiest sword with 15% dodge distance. PepeHands

lethal lagoon
#

I like that psykers get cleaved by sniper like nothing, now that we finally got the cannon part of glass cannon.

#

balanced(ish)

idle bay
gusty furnace
#

which one do I use KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

Jealous of those fiber motherfuckers though >.<

willow escarp
#

puri you should try my stupid psyker build. I did end up taking perilous combustion I honestly forgot it existed

dim parrot
willow escarp
#

just ran it again and it feels pretty good

idle bay
#

I mostly enjoy Pygex's Surge Smite build. Good all-rounder.

gusty furnace
#

out of 15 and .34

willow escarp
#

very hilarious look-at-floor sim being able to quell with full move speed sliding around everywhere permanently in 80%+ peril

gusty furnace
#

And soulflame is so dookie I'm tempted for the warp resistance

lethal lagoon
#

I run surge smite too, it's lolzy. I went for extra toughness, so I just walked towards shooter hordes spamming surge.

gusty furnace
#

(The DOT that is)

plucky flax
#

I am abusing assail revolver until patch. whatthefuck_heresy

gusty furnace
dim parrot
#

wich 1 do I use?

gusty furnace
#

I don't really know if that 15th stack of soulflame or whatever fatshark calls it is worth anything

dim parrot
#

nightmode friendly xD

gusty furnace
plucky flax
#

Right

gusty furnace
#

swap flak for carapace

dim parrot
#

merci

dim parrot
gusty furnace
#

I don't actually know if that'll get you a BP or not. i need to test it KEKW_ogryn

dim parrot
#

is my current 1 and trying 2 get a better one but no luckKEKW_ogryn

gusty furnace
#

3000/399.27 = 7.5 headshots

3000/499.08 = 6.01 headshots

gusty furnace
#

second perk is flak and open to change

#

Flak really only helps with scab ragers(One-shot BP with a bunch of warp charges)

dim parrot
#

noooooo im 2 poor KEKW_ogryn

gusty furnace
#

whereas you can cut a pretty significant amount of time off crushers with carapace

#

OH

dim parrot
#

but will do in time

gusty furnace
#

I know that pain

dim parrot
#

thx 4 help siblings thumbsup_ogryn

fresh reef
#

haven't felt this useless in a while lmao

lethal lagoon
#

5

waxen igloo
#

Best blessings for voidstrike?

gusty furnace
#

Warp Nexus, Surge, Warp Flurry

unique mist
gusty furnace
#

But yeah, Warp Nexus+Surge for all around use

#

Transfer Peril+Warp Flurry if you wanna meme on hordes with infinite void balls

unique mist
#

Once go warp nexus + suege you never go back

tidal scaffold
#

whats the consensus on scriers gaze

sonic hazel
tidal scaffold
#

a mod

spice veldt
#

you can make scrier's gaze work, but I really just don't bother with it unless you find some joy in peril management

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or intentionally doing a non-force weapon only build (including not using your blitz)

open stratus
#

The whole right side for psyker is lackluster.

spice veldt
#

rip Prescience, Scrier's Gaze, and Disrupt Destiny

#

at least with Disrupt Destiny, it has two bugs that mess with it, so it's hard to evaluate how it'd feel if it worked properly

lethal lagoon
#

I'd get the crit chance aura if it wasn't for the fact that locks you out of toughness DR

spice veldt
#

Prescience is a fine I suppose since it's an aura and most auras are not that impressive for the most part

#

at least classes usually have some stuff that procs on crit so it's not as bad as it seems

#

the talents on the right side are pretty fine

#

Mettle, Perfect Timing, Malefic Momentum, Empathic Evasion, Kinetic Deflection, True Aim

vital flint
#

Reality anchor or precognition for scryer's gaze?

lethal lagoon
#

Empathic evasion kind of useless with how much toughness regen we have

spice veldt
#

ye, though soulstealer is getting nerfed down

#

and there are scenarios where you might be getting magdumped by 10 gunners

#

and it's fun to run into a bunch of gunners and not die because ranged i-frames lul

vital flint
#

I feel like Reality anchor coupled with warp charges reducing peril gain can allow for really high scryer bonuses

#

But idk

lethal lagoon
#

I already do that cause I stack toughess lmo

harsh urchin
#

scrier's gaze is going to remain lackluster

spice veldt
#

ye, but we'll see how it remains after toughness gen nerfs

lethal lagoon
#

Finally having 200 toughness like beta psyker should have been hnng.

harsh urchin
#

until they either buff the cooldown to be in-line with the fact that it doesn't tick down while active, or let the cd tick while active.'

lethal lagoon
#

I prefer quell toughness anyways

harsh urchin
#

there's no way around that lol

spice veldt
#

7.5% toughness per warp kill is still really good

harsh urchin
#

it's the same reason they had to rebuff executioners stance

spice veldt
#

and you need soulstealer to get perilous combustion anyways

harsh urchin
#

in patch 14

regal drum
spice veldt
#

oh wait i'm blind

#

you can get to perilous through quietitude

#

damn

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah

#

Was about to say

#

I went to go double check

vital flint
#

Yeah, but I still like to run scyer on my gun builds

lyric burrow
#

Yeah thats usually how i go

vital flint
#

And it does allow for some nice monster damage

spice veldt
#

anyways we should remove quietitude so that soulstealer is the only way to get to perilous combustion

vital flint
#

But idk if the additional finesse bonus is worth more than the potential longer upkeep

fresh reef
#

level 24 psyker in Auric Maelstrom
named Zapard
This guys gonna die in less than 3 minutes isn't he?

lyric burrow
spice veldt
#

my brain could not handle the adaptation from force swords to duelling swords

lethal lagoon
#

So 2 burdens

#

There's literally no practical reason to go above a normal t5 unless you are bored.

#

It's for the challenge

spice veldt
#

moneeeeeee

#

though that's probably not why they're playing

lethal lagoon
#

If you are doing a per minute calculation, nah

lapis bay
#

Love them 700 plasteel runs fam

lethal lagoon
#

Normal t5s have the same plasteel as aurics though

#

And you actually have time to grab everything

lyric burrow
#

I mostly do auric for the challenge anything below histg is kinda easy

lethal lagoon
#

Anyways, aurics are for the challenge, they need to make that more clear I think. tired of fresh 30s in my pubs

echo light
#

what blessings are good on the Mk IV dueling sword? I assume one is uncanny, but what is the other?

lyric burrow
#

The increased resource gain is nice

lethal lagoon
spice veldt
#

hi-int is a fairly significant increase in dockets

fresh reef
#

and his buddy is abusing warp charge dome

spice veldt
#

and I do normal int and hi-int in roughly the same time

spice veldt
#

low-int magistrati plasteel grindset

fresh reef
#

he died to one trash mob

lyric burrow
#

I'd almost be ok with fs making the max level above 30 and locking auric behind like level 50+ but i have gotten good level 30s

lapis bay
#

For that extra dodge crit and damage

lyric burrow
#

And it would be annoying to grind that many characters to 50 for auric

strong gulch
#

In a way I do understand the level 20s to 24s who want to jump to T5. Leveling is kinda pain, so they are probably hoping for more XP.

But dang.

lethal lagoon
echo light
fresh reef
lyric burrow
tidal scaffold
#

watching other psykers I thought i would like lightning more, but it just isnt doing as much as I thought it did

lapis bay
spice veldt
#

it has the critical weakness of relying on having at least one decent teammate

lethal lagoon
#

Just give a penance for beating a hi int t5 to unlock aurics account wide, would solve most of the auric pub problems.

spice veldt
#

which is why I would never run it

fresh reef
#

I'm very tempted to queue dodge but, all four classes is rare these days

lethal lagoon
#

The smite "buff" next patch should give it actual horde clear, which will be great.

lyric burrow
#

yeah it might actually be decent even compared to assail

#

depending on how assail turns out

lethal lagoon
lyric burrow
#

BB still good although i use the mk4 knife now for variety cause BB was ogryns like one actually S tier melee weapon before

strong gulch
#

More long pressing smite to melt the whole world and stop time.

gusty furnace
lyric burrow
#

clubs were decent

gusty furnace
#

as I like to call it

echo light
#

what's the dump stat for the mk4 dueling sword, cleave?

lethal lagoon
#

Club heavy spam with haymaker and 230 toughness, my Ogryn is functionally immortal. Even sniper shots. I love clubs since beta, nice to see them doing so well.

lyric burrow
#

yeah club with the new talents is actually nice

spice veldt
#

mobility is mobility

#

cleave damage only scales unarmoured/infested armour mods and not flak cuz it's bugged

lyric burrow
#

cleave is the one i care about the least but i dont want it super low

spice veldt
#

penetration only scales carapace and not flak cuz it's bugged (guess where the bug where it's not scaling flak is coming from)

lyric burrow
#

DS was a little annoying to roll for

lethal lagoon
#

the bleed nerf might destroy clubs horde clear though 😦

spice veldt
#

what having two armour modifier stats does to a mf

lyric burrow
#

bleed should still be decent

lethal lagoon
#

But will it kill mobs you've knocked to the ground with the club sweep? I dunno.

echo light
#

gotcha, I've just been starting to use it after swapping off the illisi, and it's just so fun to use

lyric burrow
#

im excited for mk 2 to be good

echo light
#

being able to one hit kill basiaclly every elite with a heavy headshot is so good

lyric burrow
#

one of the few weapons ive actually never used

spice veldt
#

two-shotting crushers 😎

#

god I love disrupt destiny with the mk4 because you hit some funny breakpoints

#

like one-shotting maulers (crit weakspot)

#

lamayo

trail forge
#

is exorcist any good

#

5% quell on weakpoint hit

fresh reef
#

so, they all downed at least once in the first 5 minutes

#

I got killed by our vet exploding a burster in my face

echo light
#

I get irrationally angry at teammates killing bursters when I'm running up to push it

fresh reef
#

no no

#

worse

#

he shot through me, with plasma

#

after I had pushed it

spice veldt
#

god gamer vet

fresh reef
#

SALAZAR

#

SHOOT THROUGH ME AND KILL ME

spice veldt
#

the real gamer move is to shoot through a wall and then you

lapis bay
#

fml, my highest rolls are always garbage

spice veldt
#

100 cleave plasma next patch, babeeeeee

fresh reef
#

scoredboard btw

#

shockingly, I carried

#

who would've guessed

strong gulch
#

Perks should be low lost to change around.

lapis bay
#

cant wait for this

#

or this, can play an enforcer muahaha

wary quest
#

Preparing for the force sword change, what do you guys think of dueling swords? I feel like the Mk.IV has really precise strikes and does mad damage, but I see people preferring the Mk.V, didn't know if there was a particular reason for that

analog agate
#

Mk iv = king

severe helm
#

👆

wary quest
#

Glad to hear it

long wharf
#

And it's going to be even better come patch day

gilded viper
#

I like my Deimos still

#

Mk4 is good too

long wharf
#

While force swords are going to lose infinite dodging

gilded viper
#

unlimited dodges is kinda unhealthy, but hey, the compensation buff looks nice

lyric burrow
#

tbh they could have just taken away infinite dodges and left illisi as is and it would still be fine but ill take the buff

gilded viper
#

Illisi and Deimos are great, shame about the other one

wary quest
#

I'm not going to argue the infinite dodges was a bit much xD

#

I do think it leaves force swords is a pretty weird spot though

#

I also preferred the Illisi

#

So I usually wanna kill specials fast

#

And it's like well, I can do that way better with the dueling sword now

#

But the Illisi was the thing that could crabwalk me out of any situation (+Deflector)

dim parrot
#

true

#

is there a huge difference from illisi to deimos?

wary quest
#

I mean the difference is the warp attack

dim parrot
#

or is the attack pattern just different?

wary quest
#

Illisi has an "instant" warp attack (no holding it to them)

dim parrot
#

oooh ok

spice veldt
#

illisi has the same special as the power sword

#

and the deimos's special is akin to the chainsword's

gilded viper
#

Illisi is faster with a larger emphasis on horde clear, Deimos is the "heavy" force sword, but even unpowered kills elites/specials super good

full bane
#

Deimos is more single target, Illisi is more for hordes

dim parrot
#

noice noice

#

should farm deimos in the future as well then

gilded viper
#

I want a force 2 hander tbh

dim parrot
#

but I think with surg, illisi would fit me more

spice veldt
#

basically just use the normals on the deimos

wary quest
#

And then the other force sword is kinda weird, its second heavy attack is really good but that's about all I prefer about it

spice veldt
#

don't bother with the special except if you need to stagger or against a flak enemy (deals 200% damage to flak)

full bane
gilded viper
#

Obscurus is so much worse than the other 2, which is a shame

wary quest
#

Right? xD

dim parrot
wary quest
#

But yeah I think I'll keep my Illisi around to see how much I've crutched on it

dim parrot
#

but imagine 2 force swords lol

wary quest
#

dual force swords lol

dim parrot
#

ye

full bane
gilded viper
#

I think we'll see zealot dual wielding axes before dual force swords

dim parrot
#

then we would become witchers 4 real

dim parrot
#

I want it more for us

gilded viper
#

What if they added a mind jack power for psyker, like make our own little steves outa a scab shooter?

dim parrot
#

lol

#

why not become full jedis lmao

fresh reef
#

what's the target priority for DH aggro?

#

the one who aggro'd first, then most damage?

analog agate
#

yes

dim parrot
#

first aggro indeed

fresh reef
#

noted

#

I'm just gonna stop trying to kill DH's if I know we don't have the damage then

worthy scaffold
#

uncanny strike stack with assail?

fresh reef
#

because then the level 30s lose their carry KEKW_ogryn

worthy scaffold
#

yoo

#

imma grind that uncanny tier 4 then

spice veldt
#

a bit of a meme since you don't have assail's target limit advantage with carapace

strong gulch
#

DH has been spawning in some pretty shit places lately.

spice veldt
#

but it does work

worthy scaffold
#

poke sum knife in it

spare light
#

I feel dirty winning a game with an infinite smite abuser

spice veldt
#

the fear of god was put into me when a daemonhost spawned right under me when I walked through a tunnel on relay station

#

and then i got flamed for "being out of position" when clearly that was not the issue

spare light
#

Oh so I'm not the only one feeling daemonhosts being in the shittiest possible spots ever

strong gulch
#

I keep having them spawn next to the med station.

#

And on another spot that if you didn't know that you could cheese a jump, you wouldn't be able to get past without agro.

carmine oar
#

Through a spike and it auto aimed and hit one today fml

olive ember
spare light
#

And then they spawn in the MOST obvious spots, get pinged, but your team mate still runs into them

olive ember
#

their understanding of mechanics trascends the mortal coil

spice veldt
#

ignore my disrupt destiny stacks in that clip

#

though assail + DD does work better than you'd think in melee maelstrom

olive ember
#

stop rushing

#

fucking rushers everywhere

strong gulch
#

I want to use DD, but I lose my mind chase the stack man.

#

Stack man is the DD target.

spare light
strong gulch
#

yee

thin wave
spice veldt
#

don't worry it's been happening since launch

#

they fixed some of the really bad cases as far as I can tell, but some remain

cinder moon
#

such a smooth spawn

ebon vine
#

"Hah, of course!"

fresh reef
#

I really wish I didn't have to install a mod to make Force Sword block not blind me

silver portal
#

anyone have future psyker drip leaks?

full bane
#

No but here’s a little treat for y’all

#

2h force sword

acoustic spade
#

always nice to fly away from the party because of a barrel and find myself in a corner with 3x crushers

wispy pike
fresh reef
#

if ever there as a visual definition of "facespawn" this would be it

cinder moon
#

lol yep, shit was like magic

wispy pike
#

It's some quality horror movie material lol. Fitting I guess, for a warp tainted mob.

fresh reef
#

is 90 seconds a good TTK on monstrosities?

west smelt
#

How's this for a gunsyker build?

#

Got it from Milk shop

potent blade
feral verge
#

i'd never use recon las on psyker

gilded viper
#

Does speedload proc only on the recon las melee or any melee?

west smelt
#

Any melee

feral verge
#

idk but speedload aint worth it on any weapon

cinder moon
#

good for revolver/duelling sword psyker

west smelt
#

Better than pre-patch speedload

gilded viper
# west smelt How's this for a gunsyker build?

Recon las goes through ammo like it’s out of style and psyker doesn’t have anything to help mitigate that, unless you got a vet friend helping you, you might want a blessing to help with ammo

feral verge
#

no room for speedload

west smelt
cinder moon
#

6wc revolver with high base crit doesn't really need surgical

west smelt
#

I almost never aim as I just use it to kill ragers and weaken crushers before heavy attack poking them

cinder moon
#

i just spam venting shriek and abuse wildfire

west smelt
#

Scrier's Gaze and then blast everything of "need to die right now" then switch to duel sword mk 4 to proc speedload and also get rid of trash mobs

acoustic spade
#

I had the stupidest instance today of wanting to set stuff ablaze with venting shriek

#

I was keeping a horde in check with smite

#

and suddenly my peril started going down cause they started dying

spice veldt
#

battle meditation grindset

cinder moon
#

time to un-spec battle meditation 😂

west smelt
#

My gunsyker is basically a Zealot lite with brain burst as a flamer grenade replacement

acoustic spade
#

and by the time my venting shriek was off cooldown I was at like 10% peril

#

so I had to wait for peril to build up again

#

and then the horde had died already

#

I just realized while reading this talent

#

So is this Kill <Enemy with Soulblaze>

#

or is it kill Enemy with <Soulblaze>

spice veldt
#

it was the latter case before patch 13 (kill an enemy that has soulblaze stacks)

#

i forget if you need to be the one to kill them or if they can die to any source

#

could spawn a sniper and have them repeatedly teamkill an enemy with soulblaze to see if that works

gilded viper
#

Is that why my stacks aren’t increasing as much anymore?

#

Cause I gotta be the killer?

#

Cause I have definitely noticed In Fire Reborn not being as fast

#

I wonder if the other option would be better even with purge since it’s when anybody gets a kill?

spare light
#

I really want Psykinetics aura but I don't want to give up kinetic deflection

orchid nest
#

you shouldn't have to. what are you taking instead up there? pathing through mind in motion?

spare light
#

I swapped to this

unique mist
acoustic spade
#

heresy QP wasnt popping for my "no deaths" contract so I went into malice quickplay

gilded viper
#

Okay so enemy snipers killing infected can absolutely activate In Fire Reborn

acoustic spade
#

had 2x Zealots with Zoom builds that cleared the map before me and the veteran could even see them and only had to deal with the occasional mutant spawns that appeared behind us

unique mist
#

axes are a meh

#

not part of the meta at all

#

barely anyone runs it, nobody on psyker i've seen

#

so i would save my melkoins

light knot
#

bad base, good rolls

#

no it's not pensivesnake

pale raven
#

Is kinetic resonance bugged? I'll full charge a brain burst after using ability and it just resets the burst charge without doing anything....

#

I just stand there with my hands up like an idiot

vital flint
spare light
#

assail psyker, gunlugger ogryn & some zealot build idk, and me on purg, I never felt as useless kekw

carmine agate
#

Whats the smite buff again? Is it base smite or only empowered psionics smite?

spare light
#

only empowered psionics smite

acoustic spade
#

Finally, Trnasfer Peril IV

carmine agate
#

sadge oh

#

I kinda love the venting shriek warp charges combo

#

But i guess i'll try EP

acoustic spade
#

I run Smite with Warp Charges

carmine agate
#

Yeh for now thats what im doing too

#

Just seeing what to use post patch

plucky flax
spare light
carmine agate
#

I can never pick my plasteels deadcat

#

Always a zoomy zealot getting them all

spare light
carmine agate
#

My legs too short to reach them in time catscream

#

Yeh..

plucky flax
#

That's rarely ever the case for me. I get top plasteels in 99% of my games.

formal acorn
#

What a roll!!!

carmine agate
#

I was like oh ammo and plasteel lemme get plasteel since i dont need ammo then the guy zooms to plasteel. Picks it. Then zooms to ammo

plucky flax
#

I wish I have plasteels pickers teammates.

carmine agate
spare light
#

I just rolled this

formal acorn
#

GEEZ

carmine agate
#

Anyone gt some surge staff gameplay? Wanna see in action

spare light
#

I've been running nexus/flurry void for a while now, is it Surge you combine with transfer peril?

plucky flax
# carmine agate Anyone gt some surge staff gameplay? Wanna see in action

Non bugged smite surge
https://youtu.be/9e0oBfL4nqo

Incredibly fun build not using the most broken things this patch (assail, voidstrike, unlimited power smite bug). The only weakness is very bad monster damage.
Patch 1.2.1
Refinery Delta-17 · Disruption · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: Illisi Force Sword / Surge Force Staff

▶ Play video
hazy nest
#

What's the worst part about playing psyker ?

carmine agate
#

Ah thanks

#

Hmm psyker?

spare light
unique mist
carmine agate
#

Theres always 1 guy backstabbing you deadcat

plucky flax
carmine agate
#

Even if u cleared it 2s ago

spare light
hazy nest
spare light
carmine agate
#

I wish our explosions are ogryn bomb sized

#

Yeh psyker is quite squishy if u are learning the ropes

unique mist
carmine agate
#

U die really fast if u make a mistake

plucky flax
#

That's cool man one of my favourite current build when I want a break from assail abusing or blaze trauma.

hazy nest
radiant flame
#

Any good?

plucky flax
#

It'll be stronger next patch with illisi buff. Xd

hazy nest
#

I really like technical support classes are there viable builds like that for psyker ?

carmine agate
#

Im still digging for a good illisi

hazy nest
#

I assume so

plucky flax
carmine agate
#

Yeh support

unique mist
carmine agate
#

Smite psyker is neat

unique mist
#

i spent them all on keyboards, dice and headphones

#

like an idiot

wet belfry
spare light
plucky flax
#

Tru darktide is quite heavy to run too. You need a quite decent pc.

cinder moon
spice veldt
#

this is why you play on gamer settings like me

wet belfry
#

A second worst is trying to push a poxburster, then your allys blowing them in your face.

spare light
wet belfry
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That makes me very sad as a psyker

plucky flax
unique mist
hazy nest
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ok I'm gonna do it

plucky flax
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Or ping it and hope team will take care. Xd

carmine agate
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No its the cc

unique mist
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they do like at most 30-40 damage to me wit 209 max hp

wet belfry
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They can hold you for awhile if you dont hit a wall

carmine agate
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U gt cced u go down real quick frm even normal mobs

wet belfry
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Horde + mutant

spice veldt
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mutant dragging me into a horde 😔

unique mist
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assail

carmine agate
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Mutants alley looping me into all kinds of shit

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Air snipe. Fire. Hordes. Into a crusher slam dunk on some1 else

spare light
carmine agate
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My latest was an alley loop into a beast of nurgle grabbing me and nom

unique mist
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when mutants throw you into a demonhost

cinder moon
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just get good at standing next to things when a mutie shows up, i've had them save me from bomber fire/snipers so many times

carmine agate
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Worst part was i dodged the first mutant and the 2nd one behind swerved to gotcha me

wet belfry
carmine agate
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Feels like im the ball in a professional volleyball match being comboed

cinder moon
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abusing mutie throws as movement tech is true psyker gaming

spare light
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how about chaos spawn throwing you into a mutie charge

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feel like a football

cinder moon
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become the ping pong ball

primal plume
carmine agate
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I gt tossed once and toxbursted mid air off a death cliff

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Felt like a ragdoll mob kek

spare light
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this happened to me a few days ago

carmine agate
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Part of the reason i kinda like smite

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It makes muties and dogs who do that suffer

plucky flax
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Mutie + horde, mutie + bomber. Mutie+flamer, mutie + sniper.

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Mutie is just too dangerous.

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Mutie + monster too. Dude grabs ya while monster whacks yo ass.

cinder moon
spare light
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Woooooooooo!

plucky flax
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Your build seems so squishy staregryn

cinder moon
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if i don't get hit it's fine

plucky flax
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Xxd

carmine agate
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What did u bribe the mutie with

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Why do they wombo combo me instead

deep karma
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Anyone else having this description issue under psykinetics starter skill?

carmine agate
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Ah yep

spare light
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9 rolls I got terrifying barrage in a row (:

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10

carmine agate
spare light
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this is why I don't run Surge kekw

acoustic spade
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same reason I dont run surge

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I've never seen it

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just gonna run transfer/flurry VS then

radiant flame
spare light
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FINALLY

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this seems like a good setup to make a crit void right?

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ranged dmg to crit chance & transfer to surge?

ivory sail
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is this worth upgrading?

spare light
magic hull
ivory sail
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alright i will see what happens when i actually have the mats for it @magic hull @spare light thanks for the advice!

unique mist
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fingers crossed you get good blessings/perks

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quell speed is the dump stat on voidstrike and you max rolled everything else

prisma wing
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Does Maelstrom Monster modifier prevent you from getting the Monster Brain Burst pennance?
or does brain rupture not prox "brain burst"?

brave fiber
spice veldt
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i don't use voidstrike sadly

unique mist
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weakened monstrosities don't count

prisma wing
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soloed 2 regular monstrosoties and it didnt count

spare sail
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it has to be in a private match

prisma wing
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in a stack, i have the scoreboard plugin and no one else did damage

spare sail
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you were on at least heresy as well?

prisma wing
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trying it without brain rupture modifier, only using vanilla brain burst.

I know that the box modifier is also bugged for ogryns with hitting corruptor eyes

ivory sail
potent abyss
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Dueling Sword Mk4, what's the dump stat?

past brook
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mobility probably, though I think cleave is acceptable?

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I have a dump statted cleave mk4 and it's been perfectly fine

ornate hamlet
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assail build is so op lmao

neat summit
ornate hamlet
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do assail build ever get bad