#psyker-class
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There's very slim pickings for melee enemies to kill that give you warp charges
Oh, and you spent all your warp charges
so now BB doesn't one-shot specials/elites
so you BB them once
good thing you have your powerful brain bur— oh wait
Your team would kill them anyways
Very fun synergy all around 
it will still one-shot the ones you tend to bb anyway
Because 2+s is too long
You don't get the warp charge anymore for being over 50% charge
with BB

Ye
So the change literally just shits all over brainburst
And you're. . . okay with that
I mean they should just make using your ult be worth losing the 24% damage (which it is on blazing shout)
"The ability was already bad, but I'm fine with it being even worse"
Is a crazy take
Which, honestly
I mean I just want them to make BB good without having to use your ult lmao
Idgaf that warp charges are spent on your ult
i'd still take it over most grenades
just fucking give BB one-shot BPs on every enemy but crushers, reapers, and bulwarks.
EDIT: And mutants
And most people don't outside of BB
the worst part is the only argument made so far is “well it had to be worse because now the other ults exist and they aren’t as good”
without warp charges
I mean right now it will one-shot BP most enemies except the hyper buffed ragers, muties and ogryn without warp charges I think
No
From the patch 14 buff
Well, with the patch 14 buff maybe
I dunno
These hp changes rub me the wrong way anyway
But the big issue I have is still the cast time
Everything's a god damn bullet sponge now
And how LMB and RMB are the same
I hate guns in darktide atm 
But for "different" uses
Which is true haha. In reality, the +%dmg per charge is the problem. So, warp charges are the problem. Bringing us alll the way back to square one
idk about this one puri
Yeah, vraks is funny
Agrip brauto still mowing down enemies
I personally am in favor of their current idea of toning down elite spawn and raising elite power
Is vraks VII any good though?
Been trying to find a second "gunker" build and vraks Vii seemed lackluster last game
it's just melee elites and mutants that got a buff and it's kind of deserved
XII or Vraks 3 probably best choices
Lets ignore Helbores, Ogryn Weapons, and Voidstrike for a moment.
Everything else feels incredibly ass to use because everything eats your fuckin ammo.
Yeah, Kantrael XII is always amazing tho
Revolver at least has one-shot breakpoints on nearly everything with critical hits.
Revolver. Agrip shotgun. XII.
I mean there's a lot of stuff that sucks sure but they're buffing them.
Oh yeah, MG12. Toss that onto the pile.
hm but is that enemies too tanky or guns too shitty
Funny finesse modifier
you did name every gun I use though LOL
Both.
Enemies got tanky because new abilities
Wel except void
instead of just balancing the abilities around enemy hp
FUCKING ASSAIL
Even with buffed enemy HP, still incredibly overpowered 
But like, enemies are just god damn bullet sponges.
Reduced to atoms
If you don't use what
one of 6 weapons?
For regular humans.
And all of ogryn's kit.
Meanwhile brain burst only works with EP
(although I do find it quite enjoyable to use)
The enemy HP buffs were a bad decision to do without buffing weapons alongside them.
The staggered releases of buffed enemies and buffed weapons has made the game extremely tedious to play without meta options.
I mean, the worst scenario, the game feels worse to play for a couple weeks and then they release another patch
The game has been tedious playing without meta options for a long time though
The brauto buffs are kinda funny because the Graia is going to 74/750
But it still has 90 damage
So like
I mean, aren't all tide games like that?
Wooo bullet sponge hell
Vermintide 2 is also quite painful to play with certain weapons imo
I think its like 50 flak damage
a flak machinegunner has 1200 hp
24 bullets to kill one enemy

Which is okay if you're using Fury Zealot
because it affects attack speed on automatic weapons now
also puri this is my blaze trauma psycho tree that ignores soulblaze lol
So you can brace it under Fury and get hilarious DPS
Respect
Wait
"I want all of the toughness, and I want it now"
Holy cow
What the fuck
Naw I respect Atlas' decisions.
No what the fuck here.
Just unmitigated respect.
And I thought I was building for tougness
This is an affront to the Emperor.
pulled some wicked clutches
Although tbh, monkey see blue flame, monke happy
ill do anything for mind in motion anyways 
No perilous combustion = bad build imo
no joke
IT IS A JOKE AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE
i could swap the movement speed node for perilous combustion
maybe
it's not a joke!
l0l
At least run 6 warp charges you criminal
ill have to take video next time
Ok, that's hilarious
I assume it is. Cause that build ain’t it
Yeah, Fury in Patch 12 and before only affected fire rate on single fire weapons
Now Fury affects fire rate on EVERYTHING
melee weapons and guns
regardless of their functions
It's kinda sad my only zealot build with fury doesn't really need an automatic gun
Yeah
ogryn heavy hitter boosting gun fire rate also is hilarious
What
holy shit
What is this Fury you're talking about
Yeah, SAP is funny
Zealot's old Wrath ult
or whatever it was called
Ahh
Its Fury of the something now
The charge ult stuff
takes more time to wield it than to dump it
Do it coward
But you know, the option is always there
It's time to suffer
I felt so bad for my team
even pre patch i hated bolter
Bolter has never been good.
too slow
Same.
based
It was nice to blast some crusher groups
On veteran: One shot breakpoints on elites and specials
On zealot: Literally only used for crushers
And. . . now you can't even do that 
Its got no reason to exist
Veteran should take plasma over it, and zealot should take revolver
That's mostly because rending rn
yeah everyone having rending
Everyhting has rending
it's all relative puri
also bleed
for the sake of long term balance
synergizing with rending
I like that rending is simple maff now
But adding it to skill trees and so easily accessible was fucking stupid
Man I hate ya'll on this discord im a new player fightin for my life on normal damnnation and ppl be like "games too easy please nerf everything and buff the enemies" please i'm dying here
they have a really bad inclination to just add abilities that are "+% damage" lol
I think tending is aight I just don’t know why it’s so easy to get
Like vet has like 3 different ways to get rending from talent tree
Ogryn had one or two right
@olive ember I guess with all of these skill trees you gave me, you use deflector force swords?
I'm aware that blocking in general hits peril first
so its good for things like rezzing
Honestly I use dueling sword mk 4 like a meta slave
my build above runs with a deflector deimos because im based
But I value the force sword deflector memes very highly
yours isnt as based as mine
Block Cost Reduction 
But yeah fs still generally pgood
I don't actually think its a good decision, its just funny
i did use dueling sword a lot prepatch but now im afraid ill have to take my flannels off if i do so
sold it
Probably swap slaughterer to unstable tho if you edge peril a lot
Definitely now
since the enemy hp buffs
Deimos is unuseably bad uncharged without slaughterer stacks up
It was okay before
goes great with 3x stamina curios
not when you have constant buffs from your warp charges AND the funny thing that gives you power for 10s after crit
my force sword blessing sticker book will make someone jealous
that you dont take with blazing trauma bc coward
Uh
a fellow collector
Unstable Power still stacks 4 times right?
So its +80% power at 80% peril?
something like that
might be 3 times I'm unsure on the specifics
+20%, if they didn't mess anything up
ye
Didn't it stack way higher than that in patch 12
no
Maybe I'm just ogryning
God fatshark really needs to work on their tooltips
simply intuit through the morphogenetic field the specifics of how a blessing works
Jesus smite is terrible
That's because it does
Smite is kinda
is smite as bad as old surge?
Well you need warp charges for it to work basically if you aren’t bug abusing
I mean, it can have a purpose seeing as you still have a ranged slot
ok lol
Its strong in the fact that you can CC like entire hordes n shit but the peril gen is kinda meh and the damage is also meh
I don't know where to ask so I guess I'll ask here
Is there a class/sub class with a good mix of fun and strong?
I mean, all the autoguns make me feel like I have to have god aim and headshot constantly for them to be worth
All the classes are overtuned rn besides maybe vet, which is getting a rework
for psyker specifically or any?
Any
ogryn 10/10 fun and strong
See: #ogryn-class
Go
go little pal
Lmao
and live your dreams
Okay
Literally pick anything they can all be strong. If you want specifically meta prob ogryn or psyker
Promoting the big man I see
Zealot is haha can’t die tho
Not veteran
please don't make people cry by starting with veteran

Vets still pretty strong I heard just not
Didn't know vet was so bad
“Delete room” or “literally can’t die” strong
strongest ✅
toughest ✅
meanest ✅
I haven't seen many
If by "Strong" you mean "gets deleted in melee unless you have one hyper specific build" then sure

Ehh that’s more of a player issue
They have claw and chain swords it ain’t hard to kill horde for em
I find it kinda unfortunate that the veteran is the worst in melee, even worse than psyker
they’re finally fixing veterans cardio right?
Tho if they were the afk stand there and unwavering focus vet
Yeah I'm not gonna play veteran when I can have infinite toughness on psyker for using my force sword, lose no toughness in melee on zealot and ogryn because damage reduction
Like the psyker has the bloody dueling sword
always has been but yeah
There's nothing veteran does better than any of the other three classes
and he's distinctly worse at melee to boot
Tbh dueling sword single target weapon
So its like. . .
Ammo replenishment
meh
It’s their only purpose 
Praise the emperor, got this after a mission reward
They're better at getting rid of specials
Its not comparable to veteran weapons.
But not by far
do people really not talk about the illisi anymore?
They literary have two differnent jobs.
dueling sword really took over the mental space
But vet is apparently getting reworked to get keystones again
dueling sword one shots mutants
and kills crushers in two or three
So like. . . why use anything else
Tho they are apparently slated for some nerfs before they get the reworked n buffed
when that's all you use melee for on psyker anyway
Actually is vet getting nerfed?
I remember hearing some Reddit vets cry about getting nerfed
mk4 ds is the deimos except both heavies are good, and they gave me the assail, so I swapped over from the illisi
Ah
Meh I’m assuming the rework will bring em back in line
Dueling sword is broken as fuck, and they're BUFFING IT
well guess we’ll see how it shakes out after the muties buff
muties are way too weak rn anyways
we also live in an era of elite spam
Heavy attack can already one shot most specials
Its a buff for near all cases
Lets buff it
Dswords in the awkward position where if they get nerfed to lose their one shot they instantly become useless
Because the deimos exists
d sword crab walking will never be dethroned
depends on what kind of nerfs you're talking about
like if you're cutting their damage in half, sure
i'm sure there are some reasonable nerfs you can do without crippling them
Should fix their rampage
light attacks are unuseably bad on dueling swords
“Talent “Exploit Weakness”
● Increased from 2.5% Brittleness to 10% and set max stacks to 2”
so it makes sense to buff their cleave to 3 or 4
Idk they are competing with the deimos which already has better horde clear access to deflector (which a decent amount of people like) etc
This is a veteran change
also allows you to actually proc rampage reliably
the deimos whose h2 is the only stab heavy
This btw is in no ways a nerf
I suppose so but l1 does heavy damage for deimos
but not on the level of the h2
They're not great but they're usable, but the cleave is a welcome buff
The attack patterns leave some to be desired however
and you have to use some APM to do an l1 -> h2 loop
unlike the mk4 where you just spam LMB
let's not pretend that the deimos doesn't have some clunkiness
and the duelling sword having a mildly more used special
Slaughterer Nerf on top of Enemy Hp buffs made it pretty madge to use
Aren’t all the force swords getting buffed next patch?
Or does that not include the lights
maybe the enemy should explode, that would be fun
I personally think that dueling sword right now isn't broken when compared to other standards of weapons.
it only needs to be compared to other psyker melee weapons tho
Its a single target focused weapon that fulfills that purpose well.
Most people here just think everything is overtuned and needs nerfs kekw
Tho honestly at this point I’m starting to genuinely think they should just make difficulty 6

they’re still refining current difficulty
Until i see dueling sword do everything in the game with no problem i wont think its broken.
Right now its bad against hordes.
damage aside, the mk4 is also an easy weapon to use
weapons should at the very least be mildly balanced around their ease of use
and things are changing a lot so it's not as though we can make the fine tweaks that I'd like
That’s not what’s been done historically tbh
Even in like VT2 the meta bardin loadout is literally just dual hammers (spam the fuck out of things) and rifle which is just point click delete
true we should stick to history
Yes
And this is why psyker should be strongest class
Like sienna battlewizard before it
The ogryns are coming :p
Psyker supremacy PSYKER SUPREMACY
I don’t have that
And even then, they are harder to learn but they don't surpass easier weapons because of it
It's long
Then I gotta deal with cow people disgust
Imo it's amazing, I like it, especially on WHC
Because it's special attack which can be spammed to hell and beyond does instakill on crit
Basically the precursor to all the darktide stagger special weapons
yo @twin aurora heres my surge stick since im back home
your weapon special pulls the guy it hits forwards and can interupt a chaos overhead
seems good
And on whc it has good synergy with flense
We got sibling staffs

But it's attack pattern can be quite cofnusing at first
At the same time, I wouldn't say it's better than rapier
Rapier can kill elites better, is probably a bit worse against hordes
But they feel balanced when compared to eachother
The main advantage it has is range IMO
(Which is to say, they both outclass the rest lol)
Imange if we gave sienna the rapier.
Some players are legit worse than bots. 😭
My shop is so sad to look at...
ew
agreed
Antax is the good axe right?
whats the best rapier?
Mkiv for heavies
Yeah but you have other options for melee on psyker. Antax without any attack speed bonus is quite slow.
Mk 4 for its stabby heavies
Antax with Brutal Momentum is instant love. It's not fast - but it behaves exactly like you want - like it reads your mind 🙂
which one do yall reccomend?
Middle one. It used to be left one - but it getting nerfed in half
Assail, surge staff?, dueling sword? Wondering what a good endgame combo is
this is the weirdest emperor's gift I've ever gotten
its. . . basically what you're looking for
Depends on build and weapons and abilities
but like, one step below perfect in every single way 
Endgame meta is voidstrike with assail
simply kill things better ¯_(ツ)_/¯
walk into room
enemies instantly dead
Ah yes, this is a ME issue
and not an assail issue

but its a me issue cause i play on lower diff than most and assail will just clear a whole poxhorde
and im like
That’s just BB 2.0
basically rock
but i wanted to slash
but for psyker
I’m not particularly sure cuz i think assail was meant to be a quick swap weapon
Yeah that's dumb strategizing.
Like it fits in the tree like that next to malefic momementum n all that
It should have next to no damage if its gonna be quickswap and infinite
Actually psyker having a "long" cool down blitz would be pretty cool. Just as an option
But it’s just spam
Just lower capacity and regen so you can quick swap throw 2 and move on
And if you spam the fuck out of it well tada you have no knives
But idek
They are doing this damage transfer thingy that I don’t get
should be quickswap and low capacity
no need for a damage buff because you can throw it out and just use your other weapons while the shards out
I'll miss the spammable Domes the most after Patch 14 sigh
Shît you psykers really do rely on shards and smite
assail gaming
I never missed a chance to draw a dick with Domes. At least 1 per run....
Yeah that’s kinda sad
I don’t use shards or smite unless I’m tryharding what?
peak gaming right here
true assail should be buffed to 20 shards
It's just common pattern of ambushes - so new domes eventualy stack up and draw that thing.. It's inevitable.
20 shards? Why does it even have a limit. BR and Smite don't. Just give us endless.
i'm gonna shard
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wich is better siblings?
4 real
Bruh me eyes.
Whaaaaaat? Buff Illsi? Why? it's already great!
Window key + shift + s please
Cleave buff and first target buff.
With enemy hp increase maybe it'll be the same damage wise.
But cleave buff is extra nice for light spam.
It's already great horde clear...
Force swords are getting a damage buff to make up for no more unlimited dodges
I know. 
It's not about great or not, just trading off
I am not complaining illisi is my favourite melee.
was my main before dueling
It should be Deflector blessing built in in every Force Sword
I want justice for mk5 duelling sword.
Deflector absolutely should be built in, I've had the opinion since beta.
They shafted its heavy attacks.
They finally added that extra shooter to vets(which has been a complaint since beta) maybe they'll add deflector to force sword finally.
And as Blessing on top of that Deflector who Delect bullets back at shooters. Also Sniper immunity 🙂
Mk5 dueling sword is one that could stand to get a full rework like the mk4 knife on ogryn
it has no reason to exist at all right now
The swaggiest sword with 15% dodge distance. 
I like that psykers get cleaved by sniper like nothing, now that we finally got the cannon part of glass cannon.
balanced(ish)
Lag issue. Dodging them only works in meat grinder - in real game with lag it's kark your dodge 90% of time and getting shot through walls .
which one do I use 
Got shit internet? That blows. Even my 5g home internet or cable doesn't lag.
Jealous of those fiber motherfuckers though >.<
puri you should try my stupid psyker build. I did end up taking perilous combustion I honestly forgot it existed
I would go left
just ran it again and it feels pretty good
I mostly enjoy Pygex's Surge Smite build. Good all-rounder.
funnily enough, right one still has 14 burn stacks and .35 burn whatever the fuck
out of 15 and .34
very hilarious look-at-floor sim being able to quell with full move speed sliding around everywhere permanently in 80%+ peril
And soulflame is so dookie I'm tempted for the warp resistance
I run surge smite too, it's lolzy. I went for extra toughness, so I just walked towards shooter hordes spamming surge.
(The DOT that is)
I am abusing assail revolver until patch. 
now u help me pls xD
wich 1 do I use?
I don't really know if that 15th stack of soulflame or whatever fatshark calls it is worth anything
nightmode friendly xD
right one
Right
swap flak for carapace
merci
cant sadly ._.
I don't actually know if that'll get you a BP or not. i need to test it 
is my current 1 and trying 2 get a better one but no luck
3000/399.27 = 7.5 headshots
3000/499.08 = 6.01 headshots
You can on the right one
second perk is flak and open to change
Flak really only helps with scab ragers(One-shot BP with a bunch of warp charges)
noooooo im 2 poor 
whereas you can cut a pretty significant amount of time off crushers with carapace
OH

but will do in time
I know that pain
thx 4 help siblings 
haven't felt this useless in a while lmao
5
Best blessings for voidstrike?
Warp Nexus, Surge, Warp Flurry
warp nexus + surge
But yeah, Warp Nexus+Surge for all around use
Transfer Peril+Warp Flurry if you wanna meme on hordes with infinite void balls
Once go warp nexus + suege you never go back
whats the consensus on scriers gaze
How do you get a stat board
a mod
you can make scrier's gaze work, but I really just don't bother with it unless you find some joy in peril management
or intentionally doing a non-force weapon only build (including not using your blitz)
The whole right side for psyker is lackluster.
rip Prescience, Scrier's Gaze, and Disrupt Destiny
at least with Disrupt Destiny, it has two bugs that mess with it, so it's hard to evaluate how it'd feel if it worked properly
I'd get the crit chance aura if it wasn't for the fact that locks you out of toughness DR
Prescience is a fine I suppose since it's an aura and most auras are not that impressive for the most part
at least classes usually have some stuff that procs on crit so it's not as bad as it seems
the talents on the right side are pretty fine
Mettle, Perfect Timing, Malefic Momentum, Empathic Evasion, Kinetic Deflection, True Aim
Reality anchor or precognition for scryer's gaze?
Empathic evasion kind of useless with how much toughness regen we have
ye, though soulstealer is getting nerfed down
and there are scenarios where you might be getting magdumped by 10 gunners
and it's fun to run into a bunch of gunners and not die because ranged i-frames lul
I feel like Reality anchor coupled with warp charges reducing peril gain can allow for really high scryer bonuses
But idk
I already do that cause I stack toughess lmo
scrier's gaze is going to remain lackluster
ye, but we'll see how it remains after toughness gen nerfs
Finally having 200 toughness like beta psyker should have been hnng.
until they either buff the cooldown to be in-line with the fact that it doesn't tick down while active, or let the cd tick while active.'
I prefer quell toughness anyways
there's no way around that lol
7.5% toughness per warp kill is still really good
it's the same reason they had to rebuff executioners stance
and you need soulstealer to get perilous combustion anyways
in patch 14
how do you pull this up?
Yeah, but I still like to run scyer on my gun builds
Yeah thats usually how i go
And it does allow for some nice monster damage
anyways we should remove quietitude so that soulstealer is the only way to get to perilous combustion
But idk if the additional finesse bonus is worth more than the potential longer upkeep
level 24 psyker in Auric Maelstrom
named Zapard
This guys gonna die in less than 3 minutes isn't he?
Duelling sword really has changed you
my brain could not handle the adaptation from force swords to duelling swords
Worst part is the friend who carried him in there is probably shit at the game too.
So 2 burdens
There's literally no practical reason to go above a normal t5 unless you are bored.
It's for the challenge
If you are doing a per minute calculation, nah
Love them 700 plasteel runs fam
Normal t5s have the same plasteel as aurics though
And you actually have time to grab everything
I mostly do auric for the challenge anything below histg is kinda easy
Anyways, aurics are for the challenge, they need to make that more clear I think. tired of fresh 30s in my pubs
what blessings are good on the Mk IV dueling sword? I assume one is uncanny, but what is the other?
he's running 2 wounds
The increased resource gain is nice
Which is the right way. Too bad a lot of people that struggle on normal t5s queue aurics "because".
hi-int is a fairly significant increase in dockets
and his buddy is abusing warp charge dome
and I do normal int and hi-int in roughly the same time
I do agree
low-int magistrati plasteel grindset
he died to one trash mob
I'd almost be ok with fs making the max level above 30 and locking auric behind like level 50+ but i have gotten good level 30s
I run precognition as well
For that extra dodge crit and damage
And it would be annoying to grind that many characters to 50 for auric
In a way I do understand the level 20s to 24s who want to jump to T5. Leveling is kinda pain, so they are probably hoping for more XP.
But dang.
I just want an account-wide penance. Locking people's alts doesn't make sense, esp as all resources are shared.
that's what I thought, I also saw Shred being recommended
lol
Yeah account wide would be better
watching other psykers I thought i would like lightning more, but it just isnt doing as much as I thought it did
Shred is really nice too, hard to go wrong with either. But I like being one and done with melee, so you could go either way
it has the critical weakness of relying on having at least one decent teammate
Just give a penance for beating a hi int t5 to unlock aurics account wide, would solve most of the auric pub problems.
which is why I would never run it
I'm very tempted to queue dodge but, all four classes is rare these days
The smite "buff" next patch should give it actual horde clear, which will be great.
yeah it might actually be decent even compared to assail
depending on how assail turns out
Poor guy with the bull butcher's from last few patchs.
BB still good although i use the mk4 knife now for variety cause BB was ogryns like one actually S tier melee weapon before
More long pressing smite to melt the whole world and stop time.
The Darktide Squad™️
clubs were decent
as I like to call it
what's the dump stat for the mk4 dueling sword, cleave?
Club heavy spam with haymaker and 230 toughness, my Ogryn is functionally immortal. Even sniper shots. I love clubs since beta, nice to see them doing so well.
yeah club with the new talents is actually nice
basically anything that's not finesse; Damage would be the 2nd stat I'd want to be high, of course
mobility is mobility
cleave damage only scales unarmoured/infested armour mods and not flak cuz it's bugged
cleave is the one i care about the least but i dont want it super low
penetration only scales carapace and not flak cuz it's bugged (guess where the bug where it's not scaling flak is coming from)
DS was a little annoying to roll for
the bleed nerf might destroy clubs horde clear though 😦
what having two armour modifier stats does to a mf
bleed should still be decent
But will it kill mobs you've knocked to the ground with the club sweep? I dunno.
gotcha, I've just been starting to use it after swapping off the illisi, and it's just so fun to use
im excited for mk 2 to be good
being able to one hit kill basiaclly every elite with a heavy headshot is so good
one of the few weapons ive actually never used
two-shotting crushers 😎
god I love disrupt destiny with the mk4 because you hit some funny breakpoints
like one-shotting maulers (crit weakspot)
lamayo
so, they all downed at least once in the first 5 minutes
I got killed by our vet exploding a burster in my face
I get irrationally angry at teammates killing bursters when I'm running up to push it
god gamer vet
fml, my highest rolls are always garbage
100 cleave plasma next patch, babeeeeee
Perks should be low lost to change around.
Preparing for the force sword change, what do you guys think of dueling swords? I feel like the Mk.IV has really precise strikes and does mad damage, but I see people preferring the Mk.V, didn't know if there was a particular reason for that
Mk iv = king
👆
Glad to hear it
And it's going to be even better come patch day
While force swords are going to lose infinite dodging
unlimited dodges is kinda unhealthy, but hey, the compensation buff looks nice
tbh they could have just taken away infinite dodges and left illisi as is and it would still be fine but ill take the buff
Illisi and Deimos are great, shame about the other one
I'm not going to argue the infinite dodges was a bit much xD
I do think it leaves force swords is a pretty weird spot though
I also preferred the Illisi
So I usually wanna kill specials fast
And it's like well, I can do that way better with the dueling sword now
But the Illisi was the thing that could crabwalk me out of any situation (+Deflector)
I mean the difference is the warp attack
or is the attack pattern just different?
Illisi has an "instant" warp attack (no holding it to them)
oooh ok
illisi has the same special as the power sword
and the deimos's special is akin to the chainsword's
Illisi is faster with a larger emphasis on horde clear, Deimos is the "heavy" force sword, but even unpowered kills elites/specials super good
Deimos is more single target, Illisi is more for hordes
I want a force 2 hander tbh
but I think with surg, illisi would fit me more
basically just use the normals on the deimos
And then the other force sword is kinda weird, its second heavy attack is really good but that's about all I prefer about it
don't bother with the special except if you need to stagger or against a flak enemy (deals 200% damage to flak)
It exists, but you’re not allowed to have it
Obscurus is so much worse than the other 2, which is a shame
lmao the forgotten child
Right? xD
saaame
But yeah I think I'll keep my Illisi around to see how much I've crutched on it
but imagine 2 force swords lol
dual force swords lol
ye
All we have for now is the model for the 2h force sword
I think we'll see zealot dual wielding axes before dual force swords
then we would become witchers 4 real
no, I just disagree because no xD
I want it more for us
What if they added a mind jack power for psyker, like make our own little steves outa a scab shooter?
what's the target priority for DH aggro?
the one who aggro'd first, then most damage?
yes
first aggro indeed
noted
I'm just gonna stop trying to kill DH's if I know we don't have the damage then
uncanny strike stack with assail?
because then the level 30s lose their carry 
a bit of a meme since you don't have assail's target limit advantage with carapace
DH has been spawning in some pretty shit places lately.
but it does work
poke sum knife in it
I feel dirty winning a game with an infinite smite abuser
the fear of god was put into me when a daemonhost spawned right under me when I walked through a tunnel on relay station
and then i got flamed for "being out of position" when clearly that was not the issue
Right?
Oh so I'm not the only one feeling daemonhosts being in the shittiest possible spots ever
I keep having them spawn next to the med station.
And on another spot that if you didn't know that you could cheese a jump, you wouldn't be able to get past without agro.
Through a spike and it auto aimed and hit one today fml
thank god the devs were so insightful in their game design
And then they spawn in the MOST obvious spots, get pinged, but your team mate still runs into them
their understanding of mechanics trascends the mortal coil
ignore my disrupt destiny stacks in that clip
though assail + DD does work better than you'd think in melee maelstrom
yeah bro
stop rushing
fucking rushers everywhere
I want to use DD, but I lose my mind chase the stack man.
Stack man is the DD target.
40K's version of 'chase the dragon'
yee
I wonder if that’s a recent thing because that’s happened to me literally today. Spawned right underneath me.
don't worry it's been happening since launch
they fixed some of the really bad cases as far as I can tell, but some remain
this was my favorite instance of that crap
such a smooth spawn
"Hah, of course!"
I really wish I didn't have to install a mod to make Force Sword block not blind me
anyone have future psyker drip leaks?
always nice to fly away from the party because of a barrel and find myself in a corner with 3x crushers
Literally appears out from behind the guy you're killing. Brilliant.
I'm in fucking awe
if ever there as a visual definition of "facespawn" this would be it
lol yep, shit was like magic
It's some quality horror movie material lol. Fitting I guess, for a warp tainted mob.
is 90 seconds a good TTK on monstrosities?
I though it was a feature in all the tide games? i remember the chaos patrol spawning ontop of you aswell in vermintide 2
i'd never use recon las on psyker
Does speedload proc only on the recon las melee or any melee?
Any melee
idk but speedload aint worth it on any weapon
good for revolver/duelling sword psyker
Better than pre-patch speedload
Recon las goes through ammo like it’s out of style and psyker doesn’t have anything to help mitigate that, unless you got a vet friend helping you, you might want a blessing to help with ammo
nah cuz revolver needs both cannon and surgical blessings
no room for speedload
I can attest to this, been using this for damnation
i use it with bb build, so if i'm aiming long enough to use surgical, i should've just BB'd
6wc revolver with high base crit doesn't really need surgical
I almost never aim as I just use it to kill ragers and weaken crushers before heavy attack poking them
this is my current revolver. only comes out when things really need to die
i just spam venting shriek and abuse wildfire
Scrier's Gaze and then blast everything of "need to die right now" then switch to duel sword mk 4 to proc speedload and also get rid of trash mobs
I had the stupidest instance today of wanting to set stuff ablaze with venting shriek
I was keeping a horde in check with smite
and suddenly my peril started going down cause they started dying
battle meditation grindset
time to un-spec battle meditation 😂
My gunsyker is basically a Zealot lite with brain burst as a flamer grenade replacement
and by the time my venting shriek was off cooldown I was at like 10% peril
so I had to wait for peril to build up again
and then the horde had died already
I just realized while reading this talent
So is this Kill <Enemy with Soulblaze>
or is it kill Enemy with <Soulblaze>
it was the latter case before patch 13 (kill an enemy that has soulblaze stacks)
i forget if you need to be the one to kill them or if they can die to any source
could spawn a sniper and have them repeatedly teamkill an enemy with soulblaze to see if that works
Is that why my stacks aren’t increasing as much anymore?
Cause I gotta be the killer?
Cause I have definitely noticed In Fire Reborn not being as fast
I wonder if the other option would be better even with purge since it’s when anybody gets a kill?
I really want Psykinetics aura but I don't want to give up kinetic deflection
you shouldn't have to. what are you taking instead up there? pathing through mind in motion?
I swapped to this
kill any enemy that has soulblaze stacks applied to it
well that last mission I couldnt even properly try and test it
heresy QP wasnt popping for my "no deaths" contract so I went into malice quickplay
Okay so enemy snipers killing infected can absolutely activate In Fire Reborn
had 2x Zealots with Zoom builds that cleared the map before me and the veteran could even see them and only had to deal with the occasional mutant spawns that appeared behind us
axes are a meh
not part of the meta at all
barely anyone runs it, nobody on psyker i've seen
so i would save my melkoins
Is kinetic resonance bugged? I'll full charge a brain burst after using ability and it just resets the burst charge without doing anything....
I just stand there with my hands up like an idiot
wth, I have never seen a game this smooth
assail psyker, gunlugger ogryn & some zealot build idk, and me on purg, I never felt as useless 
Whats the smite buff again? Is it base smite or only empowered psionics smite?
only empowered psionics smite
Finally, Trnasfer Peril IV
I run Smite with Warp Charges
Should have picked more plasteels. 
I died an oopsie & ran into a nearly invisible DH 
EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE RUNNING RIGHT AT IT, THEY WILL TRY TO PICK IT UP BEFORE YOU!
That's rarely ever the case for me. I get top plasteels in 99% of my games.
What a roll!!!
I was like oh ammo and plasteel lemme get plasteel since i dont need ammo then the guy zooms to plasteel. Picks it. Then zooms to ammo
I wish I have plasteels pickers teammates.

GEEZ
Anyone gt some surge staff gameplay? Wanna see in action
I've been running nexus/flurry void for a while now, is it Surge you combine with transfer peril?
Non bugged smite surge
https://youtu.be/9e0oBfL4nqo
Incredibly fun build not using the most broken things this patch (assail, voidstrike, unlimited power smite bug). The only weakness is very bad monster damage.
Patch 1.2.1
Refinery Delta-17 · Disruption · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: Illisi Force Sword / Surge Force Staff
What's the worst part about playing psyker ?
Wait is this you?
accidentally blowing yourself up in the middle of a horde and making it so much harder on your teammates
Theres always 1 guy backstabbing you 
Yus.
Even if u cleared it 2s ago
+1 that by accidentily blowing yourself up on 1 chaff while you got 3 downs
Guard main considering rolling psyker as my first alt cause I liked Sienna
Ah shit, that video you posted inspired me into playing that build
I wish our explosions are ogryn bomb sized

Yeh psyker is quite squishy if u are learning the ropes
god those mods make me envious
U die really fast if u make a mistake
That's cool man one of my favourite current build when I want a break from assail abusing or blaze trauma.
HOLY CRAP YOUR SKILL TREE IS HUGE
Any good?
It'll be stronger next patch with illisi buff. Xd
I really like technical support classes are there viable builds like that for psyker ?
Im still digging for a good illisi
I assume so
Invest in pc fren.
no moneys
Smite psyker is neat
A mutant grabbing you and immeaditely leading to your death from full health to zero.
I just horribly struggle with snipers & stuff at long range
Tru darktide is quite heavy to run too. You need a quite decent pc.
just stand next to walls so they have to throw you
this is why you play on gamer settings like me
A second worst is trying to push a poxburster, then your allys blowing them in your face.
Freaking runescape settings
That makes me very sad as a psyker
Lod and slowly work your way up to sniper. Surge staff 1 shot sniper and has surprisingly long range.
how are you taking that much damage from mutants?
ok I'm gonna do it
Or ping it and hope team will take care. Xd
No its the cc
they do like at most 30-40 damage to me wit 209 max hp
They can hold you for awhile if you dont hit a wall
U gt cced u go down real quick frm even normal mobs
Horde + mutant
mutant dragging me into a horde 😔
assail
Mutants alley looping me into all kinds of shit
Air snipe. Fire. Hordes. Into a crusher slam dunk on some1 else
Yeeting you into flamer/flame bomb
My latest was an alley loop into a beast of nurgle grabbing me and nom
when mutants throw you into a demonhost
just get good at standing next to things when a mutie shows up, i've had them save me from bomber fire/snipers so many times
Worst part was i dodged the first mutant and the 2nd one behind swerved to gotcha me

Its not really an option in most situations where this happens
Feels like im the ball in a professional volleyball match being comboed
abusing mutie throws as movement tech is true psyker gaming
become the ping pong ball
Does it have cup holders?
this happened to me a few days ago
Mutie + horde, mutie + bomber. Mutie+flamer, mutie + sniper.
Mutie is just too dangerous.
Mutie + monster too. Dude grabs ya while monster whacks yo ass.
totally calculated
Woooooooooo!
Your build seems so squishy 
if i don't get hit it's fine
Xxd

this is why I don't run Surge 
same reason I dont run surge
I've never seen it
just gonna run transfer/flurry VS then
the protoypes with cupholders reported spilling issues
FINALLY
this seems like a good setup to make a crit void right?
ranged dmg to crit chance & transfer to surge?
is this worth upgrading?
quite sure it is but @spice veldt would know more
a grandma would say yes.
alright i will see what happens when i actually have the mats for it @magic hull @spare light thanks for the advice!
absolutely lol
fingers crossed you get good blessings/perks
quell speed is the dump stat on voidstrike and you max rolled everything else
Does Maelstrom Monster modifier prevent you from getting the Monster Brain Burst pennance?
or does brain rupture not prox "brain burst"?
damn wtf did the emperor himself give that to you
i don't use voidstrike sadly
brain rupture of course procs brain burst
weakened monstrosities don't count
soloed 2 regular monstrosoties and it didnt count
it has to be in a private match
already did that
in a stack, i have the scoreboard plugin and no one else did damage
you were on at least heresy as well?
trying it without brain rupture modifier, only using vanilla brain burst.
I know that the box modifier is also bugged for ogryns with hitting corruptor eyes
was from the armory exchange I dont know about my luck on this lol
Dueling Sword Mk4, what's the dump stat?
mobility probably, though I think cleave is acceptable?
I have a dump statted cleave mk4 and it's been perfectly fine
assail build is so op lmao
Hahahaha learn to dodge /s
do assail build ever get bad





