psyker-class

[fierce crest]

but the real answer is run what you enjoy

[knotty island]

yeah I like assail it's pretty cool

[slate oasis]

what's the blessing meta for the mk4 dueling sword?

[whole oxide]

uncanny, and then whatever RNG decides to give you with uncanny

[knotty island]

word thanks

[long wharf]

it depends on how you like to play

I don't play with my dueling sword out constantly

I only use it to stab bigger enemies in the face

so I don't bother with the dodge-related blessings

but if you like to dance around with a DS, the dodge-related blessings are very good

[slate oasis]

I've been using mk5 for a while and I mainly use it to heavy attack elites and specials, so I'll probably keep doing that with the 4

[long wharf]

the 4 is even better than the 5 for that

Fatshark hasn't normalized the heavy attack damage across the dueling swords

so the 4 does significantly more heavy attack damage currently

[slate oasis]

yeah I've heard 4 does insane damage so I'm switching

my mk5 can still one shot mutants on a crit but I want more

[west smelt]

You can one or two-shot mutants on heavy attacks

[long wharf]

I regularly one-shot mutants

[west smelt]

This is mine, I use it for everything that's not a shooter

[whole oxide]

surely that should be the opposite way round then? if you're just pulling DS to pop mutants or elites which get too close, then shred/rampage won't ever be active, but riposte/precog might

[long wharf]

and by "regularly", I mean I almost never not one-shot mutants

[long wharf]

I take advantage of shred when I chain heavy attacks

which I do against crushers and maulers

and monstrosities

[west smelt]

I brain burst ogyrns to weaken them then blast them with my revolver, then melee them

[idle bay]

I have a really silly issue - when i typing anything in chat - game also recognizes it as input for character controls....

[long wharf]

I use a revolver but only for the Hand Cannon blessing working for Assail

[west smelt]

Or to help my teammates

Scrier's Gaze or shield ability? Cause I use SG for hordes, groups of elites and monsters

[slate oasis]

does it do decent damage to monstrosities?

[long wharf]

I don't like SG right now

[whole oxide]

not really, but its better than most other things psyker has, apart from guns or chainsword

[long wharf]

Shield is very good

[west smelt]

I used to be a zealot main so my muscle memory from Antax and Evis has translated very well into Duel sword Mk 4, SG is a blessing in hordes as the movement speed increase is very nice

The dodge distance also helps a lot

[terse bone]

Playing this right now

WIth a purge staff

Iam kinda pleased it works good

[long wharf]

why EP?

[terse bone]

Faster cast to,e

*time

I use it mainly to pop Gunners and stuff

[whole oxide]

EP is kinda mandatory for BB, if no EP then you're better with smite/assail

[terse bone]

With a charge i pop them quiet fast

Yea +50% dmg

Oh + a blaze sword

[rare storm]

Is it just me or is cruel fortune.... very rng

it doesn't seem to give a dd stack on every weakspot kill but randomly

[lethal folio]

certain enemy types don't get highlighted properly.

[rare storm]

isn't this on any enemy

or supposed to be at least

[ebon jolt]

I’m pretty sure you have to kill your destiny target. Otherwise that would be completely busted.

[fierce crest]

dont take this

probably not this either

@terse bone

[modest kelp]

Anyone willing to help me get cliffhanger penance?

[fierce crest]

i forget which but theres a map with a good cliff at the start

you can do it in pubs pretty easy

[rare storm]

I do get the stacks off non-highlighted enemies tho

Unless it's actually highlighted but I can't see it?

[strong gulch]

It's a known issue. DD targets are sometimes not highlighted.

[rare storm]

oo

That's lame wth

[brazen warren]

it targets shooters and ragers right

[summer prairie]

everything except ogryns, specials, horde, monsters. I guess that's roughly the same

[dry dune]

Any tips for the penance that requires you to make 7 people fall to their death in 2 seconds?

[trail dust]

I would love if smite did soulblaze that I feel makes a lot of sense and allow more builds aside from empowered pisonics

[kindred lake]

that one mission where the final section is in the central area and there are walkways connecting on 3 sides

you could vent a whole mob off one of those walkways

[dry dune]

Oh I think I know that one

That’s the one where you upload faulty data right?

[kindred lake]

i think so yeah

[dry dune]

Yeah I can’t remember the name

It’s too bad we can’t choose maps to play on

[hollow stirrup]

Oi Spark 'Eads, I hope yall are having a fantastic day or else i'ma give you an Ogryn™️ hug

[kindred lake]

me neither, would be an espionage i think

[dry dune]

Yeah it’s an espionage I think

[kindred lake]

is there a preferred dueling sword? really want to try it out

need to make from scratch though

[dry dune]

I use the Devil’s Claw

Because parrying is fun

[ebon jolt]

I’m not sure I like DD though. I don’t like how it messes with priority targeting. You have 2 mutants and a dog chasing you down and the passive highlights a shooter at the back of the room. “Hey buddy. Don’t worry about those guys. Shoot THIS guy. It will make you more powerful!” At least with volley fire/executioners stance it highlights everything and lets you choose.

[kindred lake]

devils claw is a lot of fun

but i want to use the psyker unique weapon if possible

[dry dune]

The blaze sword?

It’s fun for a bit imo

But I like the combo of the DC

[kindred lake]

oh no sorry i have a good illissi i am using now

[analog agate]

Don’t use his build if you want trauma. He uses an assail build with melee. He doesn’t really use his trauma. This is a basic blaze trauma build

[kindred lake]

forgot those are psyker specific too

[dry dune]

Also which staff lets you use your hand like a Flamer?

[kindred lake]

purgatus

[dry dune]

Ah

[kindred lake]

so much fun

[dry dune]

I’m using the second one you can unlock

The one that lets you do AOE as an alt

[kindred lake]

the ground explosion? trauma

also good i think

[dry dune]

Ah

Yeah it’s fun

Great for ambushes

[dim parrot]

this one good or nah?

[formal acorn]

SOOOO close to being amazing

[analog agate]

Barrage to nexus and unarmored to flak. It’s ok, missing a perk and the warp resistance is meh

[dim parrot]

melk is just selling it and was thinking about buying it

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Swap terrifying to nexus and unarmored to crit chance / flak / carapace / unyielding

[dim parrot]

but if its meh then I won't buy it

[formal acorn]

How much will warp resistance actually affect how fast peril builds?

[strong gulch]

If you don't have a surge staff or this is better than the one you have, grab it.

[whole oxide]

if you inspect and hover mouse over it, it'll tell you

[strong gulch]

Depends on the staff and you on how much you need.

[formal acorn]

From the pic sent just above

Almost perfect roll besides warp resistance

[strong gulch]

Like 48% warp resist on fire trauma is pure pain for me.

You don't need 80 rolled warp resist tho. That is dump stat for the most part.

[dim parrot]

where do u get good blessings fast? xD

[formal acorn]

So I got a really good roll then

[dim parrot]

cause I have both on my current staffs, but not in the blessingssafe

[strong gulch]

Fast? Run damnation and dump your plasteel into upgrading to get "fast" T4 blessings. 🥲

[formal acorn]

Actually ya I got a crazy good roll even tho warp resistance is low I have max quell speed

[analog agate]

Luck. Otherwise, fast doesn’t exist. You farm until you get lucky or mass buy/upgrade

[dim parrot]

ok im just gonna let it catch dust in my inventory until I find a good nexus

[strong gulch]

Taking a weapon to gold/ orange is costly but gives you a higher chance at T4 blessings compared to upgrading to blue.

BUT you can get T4 on blue.

[kindred lake]

any ideas what to do with this?

seems ok but i literally have no idea

[strong gulch]

I mean, you can still use it, but crits really are nice on it.

[dim parrot]

so buy from brunts armoury?

[kindred lake]

all my best weapons have started as greys from brunts armoury

with the exception of like 3 melk weapons

[dim parrot]

actually I got my void and purg from there aswell ^^

[strong gulch]

Melee damage to mutant

And your anchor blessing is uncanny strike. Shred is good, but play style also comes into play with your second blessing.

[kindred lake]

awesome thanks a lot

[strong gulch]

I would if you don't have a better or comparable one.

[dim parrot]

aight gonna gamble then

[idle bay]

I took a Domes for a ride first time (yes i'm that lazy and was playing with Shriek since patch 13) - comfy 🙂

[dim parrot]

gambling brought me a better 1 I think

aaaand got a nexus

[strong gulch]

NP. Some examples for play style and pref.

Riposte gives you crit chance up front for dodging.

Rampage is better for hordes and can really take down beefy targets in a mix horde. Must weave in push attack in order to hit the cleave minimum of 3. Will be stopped by armor.

Shred can take some time to build crit chance, but it can be maintained from target to target.

There's a 4th option but I don't remember enough about it.

[kindred lake]

wow amazing ty

[strong gulch]

Nice. Glad hadron didn't brick it.

[kindred lake]

i am debating making a crit build since i have shred, and i was wondering if i would even be able to proc rampage with the lights

so knowing i need to push attack is v helpful

i also dodge a ton esp in melee so may go riposte as well

looks like i got some options

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Makes building a little easier.

[kindred lake]

absolutely

i forgot the random enemy mechanic for disrupt destiny

don't like that

[strong gulch]

@spice veldt I finally started trying assail and I see what you mean about using it in melee to quick swap with.

[strong gulch]

DD makes me lose my dang mind. I gotta chase my stack man then cry when I can't get my stack.

[kindred lake]

yeah i've never tried it and i'm not going to bother i think

finding a random marked enemy within 25m = pass

[dim parrot]

I have been using assail 4 a while, got tired of the whole drama, used smite(smite was 2 boring), switched 2 bb(it was 2 slow and every kill I tried got stolen) switched back 2 assail because fuck it

[strong gulch]

fooking valid

[dim parrot]

daaaaaaaamn why did no one tell me that surge is that strong???

almost no charge time, good damage

only down side is it can only focus 1 target right?

[rare storm]

if you get smite and lightning storm you can hit 2

Don't know why it works but yes

lol

[strong gulch]

It's very strong, fast, good distance, don't need to aim so precisely but still benefits from aiming, and it's not SO strong that people complain about it.

[dim parrot]

nice :D but gonna stay with assail I think ^^

[dim parrot]

I really like it so far :3

[rare storm]

It stuns mutants mid charge too

Which is nice

[dim parrot]

very cool!

[strong gulch]

Yeah, the smite +1 lets you hit another target. Still mainly damage 1 but stun 3

[dim parrot]

will definitely use it in my next run, even tho purg was pretty nice 2 ^^

[strong gulch]

Surge + smite pairs really well with creeping flames

[rare storm]

btw is soulstealer a must use talent?

[dim parrot]

I have it equipped already

[wet belfry]

Yes fatshark will delete your character otherwise.

[rare storm]

any of the initial talents I can swap out for it?

[dim parrot]

using creeping flames aswell :D

[wet belfry]

Battle meditation

[rare storm]

issit that bad lul

I'm using void surge + true aim

[strong gulch]

I'd say these are a must.

[strong gulch]

and if you have the room these are nice

[rare storm]

hmm no warp expenditure?

[dim parrot]

lol

[rare storm]

I guess soulstealer would out regen warp expenditure

hmm aite

[orchid shadow]

Soulstealer is getting nerfed next patch

[rare storm]

to?

[strong gulch]

Also surge kills

[wet belfry]

Id personally grab soulstealer, perilous combustion

[dim parrot]

imagine evey class could use there whole tree at the same time xD

[wet belfry]

Then make a nosedive into assail, its extra talents

[rare storm]

What's the nerf about

[wet belfry]

Then after its to rush warp rider near the end of the tree.

[hoary badge]

Vet would be just like he was pre rework

[orchid shadow]

Soulstealer is going from 15% down to 7.5 if the patch goes through

[dim parrot]

I think psykers could just clear the whole run and the other classes could chill in the beginning and drink some tea or something lmao

[fierce crest]

i wish these aura talents were yellow like the main auras

[rare storm]

Got this on right now for my surgevoid trueaim tree

[kindred lake]

dueling sword really be having two stamina lmao

guess i am taking the peril on block trait

[fierce crest]

would add some good info and visual variety

[rare storm]

Anything I desperately should change?

[rare storm]

I MEAN.... still pretty good tho

Sucks but I guess still pretty good

[wet belfry]

No perilous combustion is yikes but otherwise build is ok

Perilous combustion is among psykers most op talents

[dim parrot]

but is it pretty good tho?

[rare storm]

yeah the build mainly revolves around destroying everything with void

[rare storm]

10% would be nicer kekw

[rare storm]

That is fair

[dim parrot]

I still dont know the meaning of kek

[rare storm]

swap quietude for perilous?

[dim parrot]

in my language its an insult lmao

[wet belfry]

8 stacks of soulblaze corresponds to killing everything smaller then an elite.

[rare storm]

It's some streamer meme way of saying lol

[hoary badge]

Are you an orc?

[fierce crest]

laughing onomatopoeia

[dim parrot]

I wish og

[orchid shadow]

Is combustion that good, even without the other Soulblaze talents?

[whole oxide]

yes.

[fierce crest]

well theres 1 other

and yes

[whole oxide]

you won't notice it on easy difficulty with few elites, but on higher difficulty it becomes ridiculous

[hoary badge]

Because kek came from cross factionspeak in wow

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-horde-wow-world-of-warcraft-dance-gif-22279826

[hoary badge]

lol was a frequently used phrase that got filtered into "kek"

[dim parrot]

good 2 know

[fierce crest]

level 18s in my damnation maelstromm

[dim parrot]

put them on your shoulder

[fierce crest]

"wow there was so many bursters"

yeah dude

its a maelstrom

ok 2 30s and a 24

much better

[wet belfry]

The xp must be pulling them in

Even failing a damn maelstrom prob gives them more xp then running a suitable difficulty.

[rare storm]

Not if you fail at the start

[fierce crest]

(we failed at the start)

[rare storm]

rip

[earnest token]

just asking, will there be more Psyker staff in the future? any plans?

[fierce crest]

i will be adding the shotgun staff

[earnest token]

oh come on

[heady garnet]

i can change one more thing on this staff, any suggestions?

[rare storm]

I would change the maniac perk to flak armoured maybe

Covers a bigger problem

[earnest token]

No, Its ok like that

[rare storm]

ye it's fine, you can wipe out mutants

[heady garnet]

I know i wanna run transfer peril but the IV level is only 0.5% more

[rare storm]

Eh..... you don't have to

[unique mist]

I still say 1 wound is mandatory for new-er players unless you are staying alive chad gamer because the number of times I see someone doing damnation without a wounds and then dying outright just before a medicae is very high

[heady garnet]

How's the crit on the voidstrike? Blazing spirit is tempting

[unique mist]

Dont

Blazing spirit only has a use case on trauma

voidstrike crit is reserved for Surge and surge only (the blessing)

[heady garnet]

ah alright

Maniac to flak it is then, it hink

[unique mist]

Just cos voidstrike is much more single target than trauma and has lower blast radius, you wanna maximise its kill potential

trauma is lower damage higher aoe and so can make use of blazing spirit

[wet belfry]

I think its a mistake tbh

[unique mist]

dont go flak

[heady garnet]

I'm open to all advice, I'm not too sure what to run

[bleak tulip]

crit is still generally BiS for void even if you dont have surge

[heady garnet]

yeah i haven't changed it

[bleak tulip]

but blazing is not great on it

[wet belfry]

Transfer peril to surge or warp nexus

[heady garnet]

need to roll a warp nexus then

[wet belfry]

Transfer peril is meh at best

[unique mist]

They probably don't have

Voidstrike already deals so much damage and ignores armor that it will usually kill flak outright

[wet belfry]

You can get peril reduction through psyker talents like battle meditation or warp charge path.

[unique mist]

transfer is just a "nice to have" on voidstrike with warp flurry

not great

[fierce crest]

i think the only good utility blessing is deflector on WS

[unique mist]

ws?

[heady garnet]

i think i'll try to grab warp nexus then?

[fierce crest]

warp sword force sword same dif

[heady garnet]

i was always told that the doble shot on crit only applied to the explosion, not the projectile

[unique mist]

kek

[heady garnet]

and the projectile is what does the majority of the damage

or is that wrong

[unique mist]

its projectile

that is why its so good

[heady garnet]

=0

[wet belfry]

Surge is really strong if you have it

[still hearth]

Well sometimes. Most situations people go down it's not safe to just ress people.

[unique mist]

literally a double damage crit

[fierce crest]

the second shot shouldnt also be a crit

and then it should apply properly to the other staffs

[unique mist]

thats good as long as you run the crit chance node/s in talent trees when you pick up warp nexus

[fierce crest]

id swap to crit chance from peril

cuz then you often wont even need a second shot

[unique mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158835513789272126/1165636127840030861/Screenshot_20231022_235321_Chrome.jpg?ex=6547923d&is=65351d3d&hm=7508b22a36b99a8b6f8c12c0c269e485cbadc317d2f97e3317a0f3a631c10ea3&

Thats what I run with my surge voidstrike

and theyre changing the crit chance aura from 4 to 5%

OH also on surge voidstrike the True Aim node is mandatory

Guaranteed ranged crits every 5 weakspot hits

Surge fires 2 projectiles so can hit a weakspot twice

Voidstrike projectiles penetrate enemies so firing into a horde can hit multiple weakspots

[heady garnet]

thank you so much!

[idle bay]

Heh i love that Dome serves as anti-vomit tool when fighting Beast of Nurgle 🙂 It completetely stops the stream

[bleak tulip]

note that for higher level content shriek has immense damage potential
shield is very nice to have though

ideally you can play around the range damage it blocks but its a very comfy safety net to have available

also I dont think crit aura is good enough really but you do you

I'd go with CD aura with shriek every day

[unique mist]

Well

[bleak tulip]

with shield its maybe less value idk

[unique mist]

After patch

If you go shriek

You cant go true aim

[bleak tulip]

?

[unique mist]

you arent meant to be able to go "up"

[bleak tulip]

true aim is below it though

[bleak tulip]

all I know that theyre changing about the tree is making it more obvious you can go sideways past abilities

you can still go both ways

theyre just making it flat

visually

[unique mist]

maybe

[bleak tulip]

no they literally said so

[unique mist]

dont think we know yeg

oh where

Patch notes are vague

[bleak tulip]

on the post, in the thread I think other people have said that thats the official word

the post seemed unambiguous to me

like you wouldnt be able to do it right now by visuals, which is why theyre fixing the visuals

[fierce crest]

has that been confirmed

the patch notes sounded like that area was just getting shifted to look flat

[unique mist]

yeah I thought they were fixing it so you cant do it at all

[bleak tulip]

that'd be pretty dumb

[bleak tulip]

yeah I dont think thats what they mean

[unique mist]

ok

[bleak tulip]

I think I read playtesters talk about it and maybe even saw the flat thing or something but the consensus on the day seemed to be its just a visual change, cant remember who said what but it stands to reason that they aint blocking it off

#psyker-class message

it was some warden that said it on the day

guess you can go looking for it, I think they brought the visual rework up at some point and it wasnt the patch notes after all

[past brook]

IIRC one of the CMs said they're actually making it a flat bar, effectively it's just a visual change
you can still go across

[sturdy radish]

any tips or missions that are the easiest to complete the keep your distance penance?

[slate oasis]

Does dodging a mutant’s charge count as a dodge for the sake of blessings like precognition?

[past brook]

low intensity missions

[rare storm]

Is there anywhere I can see the differences between the variants of weps?

[spice veldt]

I pretty much run a blitz + assail build, and my trauma (Blazing Spirit + Rending Shockwave) basically fills the role of Vet's shredder nade; nevertheless this is what I run

[frank moat]

Yes

[void kelp]

Is there anyone that can explain what this perk does? I dont get it

[void kelp]

So it increases power?

[spice veldt]

ye

build stacks by hitting weakspots/headshots

[void kelp]

Bruh that trash then right?

[spice veldt]

each stack grants +4.5%-6% power

[fierce crest]

power is damage and stagger

used to be cleave also in vt but i dont think it is anymore

[unique mist]

It is

[fierce crest]

neat

doesnt feel like it

[void kelp]

Got this one today

But I am not happy with the second perk 😦

[whole oxide]

fatshark localisation team sweating profusely getting german descriptions to fit on the page

[void kelp]

Jeah it kinds a sucks

Some translations are even worse

[whole oxide]

i always wonder how 40k terms sound to native german/latin speakers, 'cos like "death korps of krieg" sounds kinda cool in english, but if it was "death korps of war" it'd just sound lame

[void kelp]

Depends i guess

[fierce crest]

who would win, a sniper or a psyker 20m away with a sword

[void kelp]

The pain

I can feel it

😂

[dense bramble]

Every time you hit someone in the head you get a stack. If you hit a bodyshot you dump your stacks. Good for deimos or obscurus if you can lock onto the weakspot because itll charge its stacks

[echo turtle]

You find disrupt Destiny able to maintain the stacks?

[spice veldt]

i picked it because I wouldn't have the points to go into warp siphon, and I didn't feel like doing assail spam with EP

the best worst option😔

although the cycle of getting and losing stacks is painful, the bonus is appreciable when it's there

[verbal shard]

any 25+ psykers lfg? Heresy+

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857588531941416

[eager token]

psyker?? i hardly knew her

[stable violet]

...

[bleak tulip]

what the fuck is this shit

[spice veldt]

i had free points left over

and I'm not taking expenditure or mind in motion

[bleak tulip]

tfw free points

couldnt be me

[spice veldt]

anticipation basically doesn't work but it gives +1 dodges so it's perfect for somebody whose brain has been rotted out by force swords

[bleak tulip]

+1 dodge curio perk when

[brazen warren]

decent right

[bleak tulip]

ya

[serene mirage]

What is the proper psyker melee weapon? Started levelling one after the update - prior to that had experience of only ogryn and vet.

So, psyker kinda feels weeeeird. Duelling sword was kinda fun - poking enemies left and right but it certainly won't be fun at damnation. Force swords didn't impress a lot - Illisi is somewhat resembling psword mk3 but worse.

(I tried use staff for killing crowds - didn't go well, damage is a joke.)

[spice veldt]

don't worry; mk4 duelling sword is still good https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[void kelp]

thx ❤️

[analog agate]

I’m assuming you are leveling. Do purg or void for staff. You may enjoy devilclaw 4 for a sword

[spice veldt]

41.5% crit chance attainable on psyker, so it's not as unreliable as you think it'd be

• 7.5% base crit chance
• 4% from the aura
• 5% from the crit node
• 5% from weapon perk (not that you'd really want to slap crit chance on unless you were a gambling addict)
• 20% from crit blessing (Riposte/Shred)

so 36.5% crit chance if we ignore crit chance on your weapon perk

[brazen warren]

DS is great for single target with the right roll, illisi is great for horde with the right rolls, mk4 devil claw is good for hordes and meme tier boss parry tanking, chainsword can get you to zoom real fast and is flexible, tactical axe/combat knife for if you want to live forever, deimos for slightly slower single target dps than DS that is easier to use

purge for hordes, VS for everything once you get a good roll, surge for single target and suppressing shooters, trauma with a good roll is flexible

[serene mirage]

I took void - using it to land heavy charged shots at nasty enemies like monsters. For now "darts" kinda save in dealing with small packs for ranged.

[brazen warren]

as for guns it is all over the place right now

which is to say I have not attempted to make good rolls for most of them on my psyker to test builds

after the update our blitz and staves cover most of the niches guns could before

[teal needle]

Yeah before 10-4 there were plenty of situations I'd say an autopistol or even kantmk12 surpassed most of the staves. Less so now

[plucky token]

I think Weapons this patch are probably in the most balanced state since launch. (Not to say there are some outliers still)

It's the new SKill Trees that are warped as hell right now.

[teal needle]

The guns evened out on several levels, voidstrike seems like a bit of a goofy outlier right now though

[plucky token]

Yeah Voidstrike is getting a nerf next patch I think

I like Surge more anyway. And it got untouched meaning it is in a good balanced state.

[brazen warren]

problem with most guns right now as psyker is ammo economy, and when making a build I try to have it meet atleast 3 of 4 encounter types: Crushers/Maulers, Horde clear, Boss dps, or Shooter cleanup.

Usually I will trade boss dps and crushers as the two are less of a problem in most matches.

no guns currently deal with crushers at all on psyker, while some are decent for bosses if used right

VS having infinite stunlock and good dps over shadows them currently

[echo turtle]

Doesn't the pistol one shot crushers with a weak spot crit

[brazen warren]

neat, didnt know that, what blessings?

[spice veldt]

only on vet probably

revolver did somewhere in the realm of ~1k to a crusher last time I used it

[echo turtle]

I stand corrected

There's the blessing that like doubles weak spot crit damage and I think a rending one

[snow shard]

any tips on how to get warp battery penance? most ive gotten is 220 seconds

[crisp yacht]

finally got a decent base rating trauma staff. are the perks and blessings doodoo?

[frank moat]

With Hand-Cannon 4, 25% Carapace and 6 Warp Charges I can hit 1451 on my revolver with 80% damage and 61% crit bonus

Just 120ish damage short of two shotting a Crusher 😩

[spice veldt]

@plucky flax i'm running a focused channeling + blazing spirit trauma staff and you can't stop me

ran rending shockwave and I kept getting interrupted because I don't spam trauma enough for safety
god I love hittrading with focused channeling

[brazen warren]

has games lantern been updated? not seeing any blessings that give rending or weakspot damage on laspistol

[shadow wigeon]

I briefly got a kick out of it on a mindinmotion staff only build, but it was still a gimmick.

[nocturne badge]

man the combination of uncanny strike and slaughterer on the illisi is goofy

[primal plume]

ALRIGHT YOU GOAT LIPPED FREAKS.

WHICH ONE IS BETTER

[unique mist]

personally i like 1, but 2 is better dps-wise if you switch flak to carapace or unyielding

[bold badger]

I'd go for 2 but keep trying to get one with higher blast radius and lower quell]

[valid lotus]

Im just getting back into this game after Patch 13 and am quite overwhelmed. Anyone willing to be a guide for some questions

[dry dune]

Tips for ‘Cliffhanger’?

Psykinetic’s Wrath doesn’t push far enough

[restive slate]

What kind of guide youre looking for?

[valid lotus]

I just feel like i got a buncha questions for setting up a new build

[frank moat]

Use Force Sword push-block

[dry dune]

Thanks

[restive slate]

I spent my first few hours of patch13 not playing just testing builds hahaha

[dry dune]

I’ve never played before P13

So I don’t know what it was like before

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal folio]

Are you using wrath at max peril?

[restive slate]

Wowza

[valid lotus]

Like if im trying to grind for new gear for a build is it best to just get drops from runs and buy the right blessings/perks from the armory? Or is it best to buy low rarity items and upgrade them/

[restive slate]

Was around since prelaunch so i remember the struggles of old lol

[bold badger]

I wouldn't worry about grinding for gear until level 30. You may get lucky and find something with decent stats in the shop or melk but most likely you'll end up having to roll stuff at brunts to find something you want to upgrade

[shell marsh]

How did you get such high rolls, tell me your secrets

Or ill tell the inquisitors

[valid lotus]

Already level 30 thankfully, thats helpful though thanks

[restive slate]

I suggest experimenting on your own and have fun before looking for suggested builds

[bold badger]

Most of the gear I've ended up using is from rolling on brunts armory for specific types once I know that's the weapon I want to use. I mainly use melk for stripping blessings

[valid lotus]

Whos melk? The armory?

[bold badger]

the contracts guy

[restive slate]

If you want you can remake an old build you were comfortable with in the past so you have a familiar playstyle to fall back on

[brazen warren]

grind for a bunch of materials on damnation, check the base stat block for 75-80%~ rolls in 4 stat slots from the random shop, if none of those in the weapon you want, bulk buy brunts armory rolls of the weapon you want until you get a good roll. after that take it to hadron to concecrate up to trancendant, and you want atleast 2 of the 4 upgrades to be what you are looking for(perks and blessings). if you get atleast 2 of 4, you have a godroll because you can dump the trash blessings/perks for the better ones with enough time and grind

[past brook]

hadron, you beautiful techpriest

[restive slate]

Look out for base 360 above weapons in Brunts Armoury, scrap any weapon you dont need for blessings or just cash

[bleak bolt]

just making sure, do pergatus staffs apply "soul blaze" in regards to the perks that affect that?

[restive slate]

Ye

[bold badger]

yes

[shell marsh]

Random shop?

[bleak bolt]

yes

I try for base 370+ stats if I can afford it

[past brook]

for this by the by, I assume replace the horde enemies with maniac, and buff uncanny strike to T4?

[shell marsh]

No no sorry, who handles the random shop or is that just the armoury?

[valid lotus]

Does everything from brunts armory random rolls always drop in gray rarity? Whats a good roll, guess i might need to look that up

[brazen warren]

brunt has the standard store and brunts armory, that standard store that rotates every 30 minutes is the one I call the random shop

[bleak bolt]

both technically

[shell marsh]

Oohh

Ok sorry

Cheers

[bold badger]

It's always grey

[shell marsh]

Did get a 60% avg roll recently

So kewl long as I'm doing the right thing

[brazen warren]

armory only gives you grey items, but the stats are random and that is what you want. you can tell at a glance how good the weapon base is that way

[bleak bolt]

message cut off, if you can buy a high stat one he's selling and I always buy ones with perks I'm missing from hadron

[restive slate]

Depends on weapon, each weapon has its "dump stat", ie a weapon stat you don't need high levels on

Most common example is Mobility on guns, nice to have but not a necessity

[valid lotus]

I gotcha, i might have to look up the best stats for whatever build i go ffor thennnn

[shell marsh]

Ah so there are dump stats good to know, anyone got a shorthand list available?

[restive slate]

Make the build you like first, then craft your weapons

[shell marsh]

Or neh (all good if not)

[frank moat]

Mobility or Warp Resist are pretty much universal dump stats

[sonic coral]

Nice thanks!

[bold badger]

I'd rather have either of those over quell speed on a staff.

[frank moat]

Oh true, I was staring at my Deimos while I typed that

Though I do personally prefer low Warp Resist just for Unstable Power/Warp Rider synergy

[chrome patrol]

not the biggest purga fan but might be good to have a decent staff so what are fire experts think about this

[restive slate]

I remember someone listed before but cant find it

For melee, focus on damage, first target, finesse

For ranged, focus on damage, stopping power, ammo and charge rate for helbores

Anyone can point out what i missed

[late night]

How’s dueling sword horde clear

[restive slate]

Its not the best but mobility is great

[late night]

Is it good pairing with voidstrike

Or would devils claw be better

[spice veldt]

your hordeclear is prob filled by vstrike so it's whatevs

[restive slate]

Depends on your preference, objectively devils claw better but i like duelling swprds

[spice veldt]

you'd bring the mk4 duellie to snipe carapace

[restive slate]

Even the weird sibling Duelling Sword mk 2

I wonder duelling sword cleave adjustment will be like in patch14

[brazen warren]

See, fatshark decided that on many weapons there would be 2 damage stats on most weapons, and having a low roll in either instantly bricks that weapon most of the time. As for mk2 DS the animations ar a bit to vertical for my taste even if it gets a cleave buff, only going to hit 3 maybe 4 mobs per swing.

[bold badger]

I can't get into the dueling swords. I put them on once in a while but I still mainly run with the illisi

[restive slate]

I... might have dropped the illisi, blasphemy i know

[lapis bay]

worf?

[restive slate]

The ability to poke a Crusher to death in 3 moves is too fun

[spice veldt]

terrible (i would never do that of course ignore my 100 streamable videosf of me using the mk4 ds)

[restive slate]

Wowza

[lapis bay]

Flak and carapace?

[restive slate]

Mine is cara and unyielding because i whip out my big iron on psyker only to deal with big boys

Else I'm sailing away

Ngl tho, duelling sword special poke stagger is a lifesaver

[bleak tulip]

ragers hate this one simple trick

[dreamy coral]

hey quick question my siblings, what damage perks would you usually put on the trauma staff?

[echo turtle]

Void strike sucks at horde clear when they are already on top of you, as does the dueling sword

Though I agree that it is a great combo as nothing has the single target the dueling sword has, and the Kamehameha from the void strike is nuts.

I swapped to a Dclaw/illisi but went back to the dueling sword.

[vale path]

has anyone done the cliffhanger achievement after the class overhaul?

[lapis bay]

I do Carapace and rager mostly for the stagger and damage potential

[restive slate]

I put infested and flak to hit breakpoints for secondary, though not sure if it holds up in current patch

[restive slate]

Is that the one where you push enemies off the edge?

[vale path]

7 kills off ledge in 2 seconds

[restive slate]

Easy, wait by a spawning door and use Venting Shriek or Trauma Secondary

There's ledges in the doors the enemy can fall off, unless they fixed that

[bleak tulip]

I remember when it was 20 🥲

[restive slate]

Yea i did it by accident as i didn't bother trying

[flat stirrup]

which model duelling sword is good?

[bleak tulip]

4

[spice veldt]

here are da numbers to see why the mk4 is the best

it has the most damage on its heavies and by a fair margin for no reason

[restive slate]

Oh if you wanna be real creative, use smite at anywhere near a ledge you can pull enemies to and lightning throw them off

Mk 4 just crazy strong now

[bleak tulip]

yeah with smite right click and shout it should be real easy now

[fallow meadow]

Mk4 is the good one now? I feel old.

[spice veldt]

like ~1.4x more damage than the other two for no reason

god bless america

[restive slate]

Time to make you older, remember Reroll Rarity mod?

[vale path]

will try this

[restive slate]

If they wanna balance, maybe they will improve the cleave of the other two DS

[fallow meadow]

Mk4 have the worst move set in all three, but the damage is just out run everything.

[spice veldt]

funnily, the mk2 was supposed to be the only one to get the cleave buff to its lights, but the other two got it so it is what it is

[restive slate]

Mk2 heavy move set has something to say about that hqhq

[spice veldt]

(notice that the patch notes say that the cleave was improved from 3 -> 4.5 cleave, when all of the duelling swords currently all have at most 2 cleave)

truly, these are the fatshark changes of all times

[restive slate]

If anything, mk 2 2nd heavy should be able to cleave

[spice veldt]

yeah I think it's getting bumped up to 8 cleave

WOOOO

[restive slate]

Noice

[spice veldt]

tfw when different variants finally get real differences in stats

[restive slate]

Goodbye forceswords i truly loved you

[spice veldt]

that's some good shit right there

[restive slate]

Ogryn cleavers are best example now

[fallow meadow]

I tried my old mk5 on some games and it feels odd.

[restive slate]

For some reason mk5 staggers enemies real hard sending them flying to the next country on lights

[spice veldt]

probably because of the strikedown light

and the fact that rending% is still affecting stagger

good thing that's being changed

[restive slate]

Oh rightttt

[spice veldt]

cuz it was implicitly nerfing the dodge blessings lol

I actually couldn't get riposte/precog to proc a lot because my lights/heavies were staggering so much

so i'm back to shred on the mk4

[bleak tulip]

I guess the others are mathematically better on average?

I just run shred because I like slapping dudes

[spice veldt]

I also realized that I was running trauma 99% of the time

[dreamy coral]

Rager? as in Maniac?

[spice veldt]

so melee elites were just going to sit on their asses and be unable to attack me anyways

[fallow meadow]

Maybe I should go find myself a mk4. I am also still looking for a good illis.

[bleak tulip]

mk4 fun

I am relatively converted

[rain meadow]

soul blaze gud

[bleak tulip]

its like deimos stab but better

because you need no prep work and im sure the numbers are also better

[rain meadow]

i like the mk 5 force sword

[spice veldt]

the numbers are in the ballpark of each other, but it's both heavies on the MK4 that are good

instead of deimos's main purpose being its h2

so less annoying to use and being better

[lapis bay]

Yes sorry

[fallow meadow]

Lol, Dsword out power deimos.

[shell marsh]

Any info on staves?

Sorry working today so jumping through the warp to keep track of convo

[restive slate]

Focus on charge rate, dump stat is quell speed

[shell marsh]

Really the dump stat is quell speed?

Hmm learn something new

Cheers

[restive slate]

Our quell speed is decently fast, warp resistance better as it allows more casts

[shell marsh]

Ah ok, does warp resistance reduce the rate of peril generation or reduce the chance of exploding at 100%

(Very new to this game sorry)

[ripe yacht]

So, what are the curio rolls to look for?

[ripe yacht]

The former, I believe. Definitely not the latter.

[rain meadow]

its not a chance to blow up at 100%, its using another ability at 100%

that causes your head to go boom

[ripe yacht]

Also… how would y'all improve this Deimos?

[shell marsh]

Fancy

[lunar hollow]

find one with a better finesse stat and warp res as dump

[spice veldt]

with a weapon selected in your inventory, you can press [V] and hover over each stat bars to see what they do

[ripe yacht]

Ooh.

TIL.

Are the blessings/perks alright?

[rain meadow]

by throwing it out and using brain rupture

[ripe yacht]

…I thought that was not the go to for boss damage?

[lunar hollow]

perks/blessings are fine, u may want unstable power over slaught or uncanny

[rain meadow]

you asked how I would improve it, not whats actually a good idea

[ripe yacht]

Okay, fair.

😛

[rain meadow]

i prefer having brain rupture and a sword that can deal with trash

than have a sword for single target and assails

[lunar hollow]

the answer to all questions in life is voidstrike

[rain meadow]

this is, sadly true

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/r7l46g

[rain meadow]

im still gonna use purgatus for MAXIMUM FLAME tho

[lunar hollow]

perilous combustion having no stack cap

(and by "no stack cap" i mean it can go up to the maximum of 31 instead of a normal number like 16 or 10)

creates some very funny situations

[ripe yacht]

This is in a purgatus build with magic missiles, I can deal with the trash.

(But in my voidstrike/surge staff build I use illisi)

[spice veldt]

very little damage from soulblaze 😔

[lunar hollow]

the best part is

the nerf is just to make it 3 stacks instead of 4

[spice veldt]

clearly a stealth zealot was stabbing with a knife to get those numbers

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

the invisible paid actor knife zealots

carefully picking the only 2 shotgunners i didnt hit

to stack bleed on

[ripe yacht]

So, assuming I have unstable power & can replace uncanny strike… what would be the second blessing ideally?

[lunar hollow]

i mean honestly its whatever u prefer, unstable/slaught/uncanny are all competitive on deimos

unstable still helps with 1 shot BPs on muties iirc

unless the meta has shifted and i have been lost to the pre-patch 13 times

@spice veldt jarvis

[ripe yacht]

"Do whatever" doesn't help 😄

But thank you lol.

[lunar hollow]

compute the numbers

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

well its like, ur getting roughly the same mileage

[ripe yacht]

It's good to know whatever feels good is useful.

[lunar hollow]

out of any combo of those 3

[spice veldt]

force swords aren't called "duelling swords" so no

[lunar hollow]

uncanny is at minimum uhhh

what 25% extra damage vs anything that isnt infested/unarmored

[ripe yacht]

What about shred/blazing spirit?

[lunar hollow]

there is unfortunately no way to make that work on melee weapons

if u want soulblaze u can bring a purg, or a blazing spirit staff, and just take the soulblaze nodes in the tree and have way better performance than shred/blazing spirit will ever provide

[ripe yacht]

How do you mean?

It's right there in my blessing list.

[lunar hollow]

it's not gonna be nearly as effective as it sounds

cool as it may be

[ripe yacht]

Ahh, okay.

[rain meadow]

more fire = more procs of "in fire reborn" = more warp charges = more venting shriek = more creeping flames = more fire

[fresh reef]

what would you guys qualify as "I carried this game" levels of damage and special kills?
highest numbers here yet I don't really feel like I did anything lol

[ripe yacht]

This is a "support" build and so I'm running dome 😄

[rain meadow]

FUEL THE ENGINE THAT PURGES HERETICS

[lunar hollow]

psyker has a bunch of different soulblaze application methods and using the shred/bs build is at the bottom of that totem pole

[ripe yacht]

But also big fan of shriek.

[shell marsh]

I hope that void staff is a skin i can get i prefer just the eye makes it cooler

[rain meadow]

it kidna is a support build

[lunar hollow]

paid skin, dont think its in the rotation rn

but u can apply it to all staffs

[lunar hollow]

u had lemming teammates

unfortunate

[rain meadow]

your allies dont take a whole lot of damage when every trash mob on the map is dead to fire before they get into melee distance

[ripe yacht]

When I get out of this run I'll screenshot my build and y'all can rip me apart 😄

[fresh reef]

how so, exactly?

don't really feel like they did particularly bad

[lunar hollow]

so

when u get guys who have awful special kills

[lunar hollow]

u can pretty consistently guarantee that u carried them

because if u werent killing the specials in any competitive way they were probs just gonna die to em

[fresh reef]

@rain meadow you can group images into a single message yknow

[rain meadow]

with pergatus staff and mk 5 blaze force sword

[rain meadow]

yeah but then i have to deal with ss files

pain in the ass

[fresh reef]

That's Illisi right?

[lunar hollow]

i had this match a couple days ago

[rain meadow]

yes

[lunar hollow]

this one hurt the soul

[shell marsh]

How do you bring that up?

[lunar hollow]

its a mod

[rain meadow]

not amazingly stated but the blessings are pretty good

wish i had higher level exorcist

sadge

[fresh reef]

that has gotta be one of the most 'eh' illisi's I've seen

but like, it's still an illisi

[rain meadow]

and i also have 16% ability regen from my curios

[fresh reef]

just put slaughterer on it and it'll do fine

[rain meadow]

it does the job

most things that DO make it to me are at low hp from how much ive set them ablaze

the trick is to just not let crushers get anywhere near u

if you see one press your ability and then pop him 3-4 times with brain rupture

this is like 1/3 of the reason this build works at all

turns out brain rupture is pretty good when you only ever use it while this is active

🤷

is it the MOST effective build? god no

but i DO like burning things

soooooooo

this is my go to psyker build for when i wanna have fun

if you too enjoy burning things i highly reccomend it

with this build your combat ability is VERY expendable

the entire build is kinda centered around bringing it off cooldown as fast as possible

just so you can burn MORE enemies

[spice veldt]

i've finally settled on a reddit flair to use

[rain meadow]

LMAO

[fresh reef]

me flaming crushers with purg anyway

[rain meadow]

thats blan b yes

but usually theyre dead before they get anywhere near me

theyre really tall so i never have a problem trying to get a brain rupture lock on them

[fresh reef]

slapped +5% health on all my toughness curios and I'm finding this oddly satisfying to look at

[spice veldt]

not 200 toughness

don't talk to me

[fresh reef]

rng hasn't given me another 17%

[spice veldt]

😔

[fresh reef]

inb4 that one extra percentage point gives me 201 toughness

just to be unsatisfying

[spice veldt]

fuck my second hard drive crashed so i don't have access to my other footage

here take this

nah it's exactly 200 toughness

rest assured

[fresh reef]

aw man

[spice veldt]

:(

[fresh reef]

how are the bonuses calculated?

[rain meadow]

more soulblaze to fuel my engine

always have it 😉

pairs nicely with brain rupture

[spice veldt]

should just be additive stacking, and the number on the UI is rounded up

120 base toughness (4x +15 toughness nodes) with toughness-maxxing on curios

[rain meadow]

wait yall care about toughness?

tf?

who the hell takes damage

kinda cringe

just dont get hit

[spice veldt]

that's soo true!!!!

woundmaxxing grindset

i wonder if they've buffed the suicide explosion's damage to scale with enemy hp

probably not

(they should tho)

[burnt island]

What's the best map to do the 7 enemies off a ledge penance?

[past brook]

Vigil Station Oblivium during the second finale sequence, when bridges appear
or during Hab Dreyko's escape sequence, after the finale sequence right before the second dropdown there's a ramp up and a door to the left of it that craps out poxwalkers in spitting distance of a ledge
use venting shriek and / or spam force sword pushes (just the push, not the follow up which targets a single enemy)

[burnt island]

Ah right. Perfect for it. Thank you.

[pale pilot]

wait force sword pushes count?

[past brook]

well yeah, it just asks you to ledge kill enemies

[pale pilot]

that would have been nice to know back on launch

[past brook]

doesn't specify how

[pale pilot]

christ. right.

[past brook]

psykinetic's wrath was merely the easiest way to do it back in ye olde days

[steel flame]

As long as they count as dying while falling

You can even kill enemies while they are falling

And it counts

[burnt island]

Huh.. Force sword push, huh? Great.

[pale pilot]

i ended up getting it in the hab block entrance tile in that area where there's a little walkway over the void

but this was back during launch

[steel flame]

You can even kill them with a melee weapon or explosive while they are jumping or falling down a ledge or over a box and you can get it

[ripe yacht]

Right here's the build.

How can I do it better?

(Also asking again because I think it was missed—what are the curio rolls to look for? Main & secondaries?)

[orchid yew]

if you havent tried it yet id go psykinetics wrath when using assail

very good syngergy

[digital narwhal]

Max Wounds
The enemy will pity you and target the Ogryn more.

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[rain meadow]

toughness good

[spice veldt]

i'd take at least one health curio

[ripe yacht]

The real question is… focus health or toughness?

[rain meadow]

toughness

[ripe yacht]

Because I was focusing health, but it seems like you can get way more toughness, so maybe… focusing toughness instead is better?

[rain meadow]

more health dont give you more downs

only give u a slight buffer

[spice veldt]

getting over some breakpoints is convenient though

200 hp guarantees that you won't lose a wound to two bursters

and psyker's toughness regeneration is admittedly cracked if you have a modicum of warp damage in your build

[rain meadow]

toughness is easier to regenerate, but having a ton of it means you are able to take larger chunks of damage without your health bei afngfected

[ripe yacht]

Right.

[rain meadow]

you generall dont gain toughness in MASSIZE chunks, especially on psyker

[ripe yacht]

Would it help if I shared what I'm currently running?

[rain meadow]

so having a big toughness buffer is good

[spice veldt]

there's a reason why they're nerfing it to 7.5% in the next patch lol

[rain meadow]

its true

[ripe yacht]

Let me throw in another question here then. 1 or 2?

[rain meadow]

but its still not in massive chunks, its a whole bunch of reasonable chunks

crushers exist

sadly

and while avoiding getting hit is ideal

when theres like 6 of them....

better safe than sorry

[spice veldt]

shame good thing psykers don't have one of the best anti-crusher melees

[rain meadow]

i dont use it

[past brook]

mk4 go stabby
crusher gets crunched

[spice veldt]

and sure if that's your build

[past brook]

and the special stab even interrupts their overhead, so dodging is optional

[spice veldt]

but you can't say that psyker doesn't regen toughness in massive chunks when Soulstealer exists

[rain meadow]

im too busy being a mob blender to have room to deal with crushers super efficiently

[rain meadow]

its true

[spice veldt]

I don't think you quite get how good +15% toughness per essentially every kill you make is

[rain meadow]

none the less, more toughness = more gooderer

[fresh reef]

carries are cool but games where everyone pulls their weight are better

[rain meadow]

its real good

[spice veldt]

anything that generates peril counts as a warp kill

soulblaze counts as a warp kill

[rain meadow]

do soul blaze kills count?

[spice veldt]

yes

if you've ever used purg at all

then you should know this

[past brook]

does killing something with a blunt weapon while in scrier's gaze count?

[spice veldt]

no sadly

[rain meadow]

too busy lookig at the enemies to look at what the hell my toughness is doing

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt what's your take on the Warp Absorption nerf next patch?

[past brook]

aww

[spice veldt]

it's gr8

i think it should've been nerfed to 5% though

no more regenerating 60% toughness with a single crit assail shard though

sadly it'll only be 30%

[rain meadow]

+45 from soulstealer

3 pierce

and crit shard is probably gonna kill whatever it hits

[unique mist]

maulers, ragers and any ogryn steps into the chat

[spice veldt]

oh wait i was using my ideal numbers

it's 7.5%

[unique mist]

i'm just really happy about the shield buffs

[spice veldt]

so 37.5% next patch

big sad

[rain meadow]

uf ur using shards on heavily armoured enemies thats your own fault

[unique mist]

i mean

those enemies are part of a horde

[spice veldt]

why do people say that assail is bad against ragers

it has 100% adm against maniac and 75% adm against flak

[rain meadow]

and welcome to the reason i dont use shard

[kind knot]

i found another cool staff im ready for hadron to dissapoint me with

[unique mist]

kek

i'm happy about the shield buff

but why is its health so low, numerically?

[spice veldt]

and if you do any quickswappinig, you can do 1.7k damage to crushers with assail https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[unique mist]

15 to 20?

is that in thousands or something

[kind knot]

yo wait, thats not bad

[past brook]

gotta love 120% rending

[spice veldt]

can't believe that they buffed it

[rain meadow]

why does our game look like that?

[spice veldt]

i think it's a nice change mechanically

but why buff uncanny strike from 100% to 120%

[past brook]

what armor? the psyker says innocently

[spice veldt]

ultrathin laptop gaming

[rain meadow]

what are your settings? is it a mod?

[past brook]

that's a mod, or otherwise some nvidia setting shenanigans

[spice veldt]

i edited some stuff in user_settings.config

lemme fetch them

[past brook]

I think there's a potato config thing on the nexus?

[spice veldt]

after I do my laundry

[scarlet barn]

brainburst and purg staff work well together right?

[fierce crest]

can you do mine also

i have quarters

[ripe yacht]

How does this work?

[unique mist]

yeah because of wildfire

[unique mist]

thrown assail shard inherits properties/buffs of active weapon

[muted galleon]

Does sustained fire even have an effect on the voidstrike staff?

[unique mist]

yes but its a bad blessing

[muted galleon]

How does it work?

I tested it and saw no changes

[unique mist]

how do you think it works

[ripe yacht]

Ooh.

[spice veldt]

i have Disrupt Destiny stacks up, as well as +25% Carapace and Uncanny Strike on my duelling sword
Combine this with Assails 2.5x crit weakspot damage and you get 1.7k damage

[muted galleon]

Every 3rd and 4th blast does bonus damage?

[ripe yacht]

Thank you.

[mild junco]

I guess it works on the small warp bubbles aka primary attack

[rain meadow]

#psyker-class message

[spice veldt]

this is basically the fun way to use assail and it's effective

[rain meadow]

my heretic purging build

[spice veldt]

though spamming LMB is also effective in 90% of situations

which is big sad

[unique mist]

it's in a volley, so the shots need to be one after the other

[muted galleon]

Yeah I tried that and saw no difference

Sometimes the shots did less damage

[mild junco]

Honestly just don't.
This blessing will never be worthwhile on staves

[past brook]

can you spam a bunch of assail shards into the air, then swap to a weapon and point it at a guy's head and have all the shards hit?

[spice veldt]

ye

assail shards have a lifetime of 2.5 seconds with the LMB

[past brook]

I'll have to give that a try

[spice veldt]

having some good keybinds will help with swapping around

e.g, I've got my blitz on [X]

[strong gulch]

🥲
Not after a rending flurry staff. I should have stopped.

[spice veldt]

RUUUUUUUUUN N GUUUUUUUN

[scarlet barn]

isnt kinetic resonence kinda mid?

[ebon vine]

question, is the screaming on the morningstar normal?

[spice veldt]

don't worry it's just psyker rp

horde noises can linger onto the mourningstar for some reason

[strong gulch]

What is if I make it worse by adding a stamina perk and transfer peril? LMB only. 😂

[spice veldt]

it's roughly a -30% reduction to the time for a brain rupture, so you might as well take it

[spice veldt]

don't do meth

actual meth

[strong gulch]

😂

[ebon vine]

ah

[spice veldt]

what deranged person thinks about adding +stam to a staff wtf

[ebon vine]

so I wasnt experiencing a mental break

[strong gulch]

Blame hadron

[ebon vine]

and the morningstar wasnt being invaded

good to know

[spice veldt]

😔

[scarlet barn]

Does soulstealer prock on staff kills?

[rain meadow]

not when it lets me delete crushers in like 5 seconds, no

[spice veldt]

yes, and it's as busted as you think it is

[rain meadow]

from infinite range mind you

[scarlet barn]

on god?
frfr

[spice veldt]

there's a good reason why it's getting nerfed to 7.5% toughness next patch

[strong gulch]

creature spawner has cause sound issues in the morningstar

[ebon vine]

should i use the quickdraw revolver if i have brain burst?

cause like

[spice veldt]

another fun fact is that soulblaze counts as a warp attack and thus procs soulstealer

[ebon vine]

the revolver is for picking off enemies from afar

but so is the blitz

[spice veldt]

i'd probably go down the right side and use assail, if you can withhold from spamming assail and just use it for quickswapping

[ebon vine]

when i first played as psyker i did a run where i only used brain burst

dont remember much

[spice veldt]

that's some discipline

[ebon vine]

i tried at least

but like

shards with the cooldown upgrade

you can spam em reliably

[spice veldt]

yeah it's just a shame that the optimal way to use it is to just spam it

the same could be said for a lot of things now and in the past

[ebon vine]

literally throwing sharp rocks

everyone's got a bit of ogryn brain in them

let loose and kill

[spice veldt]

nice animations as well

[unique mist]

what do I do with this

[rain meadow]

https://youtu.be/3MP8ej-MA0E
who needs single target force swords when i have kinetic resonance with what is pretty much 100% uptime?

and you could probably get faster by swapping after brain rupture

[steady yarrow]

what is the dump stat for surge staff? quell ?

[rain meadow]

you can just get quell on sword instead

wait scratch that

sword doesnt have quell

idk

maybe warp resistance?

or crit bonus?

[glad meadow]

surge is a crit staff, crit bonus dump sound wierd

[rain meadow]

i mean its only a crit staff if you make it a crit staff

[steady yarrow]

I know quell is dump for voidstrike, so I assumed it'd be the same

just if you're trying to min-max modifiers

[orchid shadow]

Dump stat is Quell speed for Surge Staff

[rain meadow]

if you need to quell quickly uve got this

so yeah probably quell

[steady yarrow]

ye, cool

i haven't messed around too much with crafting for melee yet. I think I like the Illisi best, so i'll be bothering yall for advice there also soon lol

[orchid shadow]

There's also a 30% quell speed talent if you need to pick it up

[rain meadow]

and quell blessing on swords if you really need it

[glad meadow]

anyone use assail with scry?

[sacred bronze]

does anyone have video to inspire me to play psyker? I wanna see something cool so I might switch over from Ogryn class.

[glad meadow]

i think there a compliation of psyker exploding when everyone needed them most somewhere

[digital narwhal]

Love the 30% Quell Speed with Surge n' Trauma

[orchid shadow]

I don't think anyone needs that much quelling. 😛 Must.. quell.. faster.. grunt

[digital narwhal]

Warp Resistance

[rain meadow]

no ya really dont

but the option is THERE if you want it

[digital narwhal]

This isn't a Surge, but same logic applies:
Quell Speed has much higher returns for higher %ages on the stats, as opposed to Warp Resistance.
In fact, low Quell Speed can even put you into negative percentages, which makes you Quell slower than base.
Look at how much difference 8% in the stat gives you.

[rain meadow]

i was testing in the psykanium, which mind you is actually worse for this build peril wise than a normal game, and it literally never head explodes even while constantly using my staff

[digital narwhal]

As opposed to Warp Resistance barely changing with a 23% difference:

[rain meadow]

assuming im using my f whenever its up

[digital narwhal]

And again, not Surge Staff, but same logic applies.

The dump stat for basically every Staff is Warp Resistance iirc

[rain meadow]

ya just dont really need it

[digital narwhal]

Ye

[rain meadow]

50 quell whenever u press f and 10% to instantly lose 10% peril on kill

like

thats a LOT of quell

[digital narwhal]

Plus, 23% difference in the stat saving you ~4% Peril per Secondary Fire

It does nothing

[rain meadow]

if you have like ANY aoe this is really good

and ur playing PSYKER

so you PROBABLY have aoe

[digital narwhal]

Battle Meditation shoud be on every build tbh

[rain meadow]

its so free to take and makes a massive difference

[digital narwhal]

It's so useful

and it's just free

Ye

[rain meadow]

its not just on warp attack kill either

[digital narwhal]

Also, I wish they'd buff Warp Expenditure

[rain meadow]

its on ANY kill

[digital narwhal]

Mhm

[rain meadow]

any time you kill ANYTHING

10% to lose 10% peril

[dry dune]

Which sword has the better push?

Is it the force sword?

[digital narwhal]

Force Swords

[dry dune]

Aight cool

Thanks

[rain meadow]

force swords > basically everything else

[dry dune]

I’m trying to get cliffhanger

[frank moat]

Didn’t realise quell speed had so much variation, good to know

[rain meadow]

mostly because being able to quell with your melee weapon is realllllly good some times

[digital narwhal]

Glad I could help.

[orchid shadow]

That 4% difference makes a big difference to me when I'm on the edge of either getting off one more Surge or needing to wait 0.5 second.s I'd rather have less Quell

[dry dune]

Does anyone know what the best map to get cliff hanger is?

[rain meadow]

except that the f key exists

[digital narwhal]

You get more casts per minute with Quell Speed though.

[rain meadow]

you can GET the surge off and then just press the f key

[digital narwhal]

That means higher DPS.

[orchid shadow]

My F key is almost always on cooldown. =/

[digital narwhal]

Plus, Warp Flurry reduces cost by reducing how long you need to charge, too.

Warp Resistance as a stat is entirely invalidated by Warp Flurry existing.

Also, the -5% Peril Generation nodes in the Psyker tree do more for mitigating Peril gain than the Warp Resistance stat does.

[rain meadow]

and if you DO somehow go over, venting shriek exists

so who cares?

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, I use Telekine Shield with Surge, but-
I'm confident with managing my Peril.