psyker-class

[molten schooner]

not sure if poopoo but it did get a bit nerfed

[forest mason]

OOOOH with Ilisi buff try firesword build again?

[molten schooner]

gonna have to see how that translates ig

[dim parrot]

cause honestly I never liked the other staffs

[molten schooner]

the rifthaven is very fun but lackluster in range that BB can make up for with the buffs

it's what i run with it and works fine

[forest mason]

yeah, love the new surge staff (as of current patch)

[bronze seal]

Trauma Staff is getting a damage buff to enemies

● Special Action Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):

○ 8, 11.2 to 25, 65.

● Special Action Armour Modifiers:

○ Unarmoured: 25% to 80%.

○ Flak: 50% to 30%.

○ Unyielding: 100% to 50%.

○ Maniac: 50% to 60%.

○ Carapace: 0% to 0%.

○ Infested: 75% to 100%.```

[forest mason]

Bonk funny, make OP fatshark trust

[dim parrot]

og never used that shit

only on accident

[molten schooner]

i never used the bonk cuz that shit's was useless

gotta hit a regular dude 15 times before he dies

[dim parrot]

yee

[forest mason]

more damage to unarmoured and infested would be really nice

[dim parrot]

rather whip out sword

[steel flame]

Rest in peace diemos dodge sprinting, rest in peace

Changed Force Swords dodge limit from Infinite to 5

[bronze seal]

oh actually, the damage change is to all the staves

[modest pasture]

I made a HeroForge model of my Psyker, Luthor.

[tight birch]

I was about to come in and say Voidstrike was safe but I didn't get to that part yet

[obtuse walrus]

BRAIN BURST BUFF

[molten schooner]

NOOOOOOOO

[obtuse walrus]

I will become more powerful

[forest mason]

they could do some real cool stuff with the bonk button, some ult fire or something would be rad

[modest pasture]

The updates are pretty decent so far. Theyre also leaving thr Smite Bug alone because of how much fun it is. At least for now. Prolly put a timer on it.

[dim parrot]

some aoe damage shit or something

[molten schooner]

Rifthaven: Flame aura that gets your peril up to 75%

but sets everyone on fire in a radius

[royal granite]

this is a good patch for us

[tight birch]

No, they are fixing the bug

[forest mason]

OOOOOOOOOH

[molten schooner]

i'd like this

[royal granite]

the build i'm currently running is getting buffed lol

[umbral jetty]

do 6 stacks of soulblaze kill groaners/poxwalkers with no other power modifiers?

[forest mason]

Trauma staff does an explosion centered on self would be pre cool

[dim parrot]

sad about my boy void tho ;-;

[molten schooner]

yea, they're fixing it but buffing it damagewise

it's what i read at least lol

[magic vessel]

Barely touching Assail and obliterating Voidstrikes

[modest pasture]

Well as long as its on a timer ill be happy. Give it 10 seconds. More than enough time to get a mass murder in

[tight birch]

Yeah, no more infinite cast but stronger

[steel flame]

Hell yeah, both dueling swords and laspistol got buffed

[modest pasture]

Thats fine

[bronze seal]

They're fixing it. it was not intended

[forest mason]

Lightning staff single target channel lockdown could work 😮

[plucky flax]

RIP infinite dodges force sword.

[modest pasture]

The LasPistol is awesome.

[bronze seal]

was a bug. We do however feel that without it Smite can feel a bit lacklustre in combination
with Empowered Psionics, so we’re further increasing the power of it. We’ll be keeping an
eye on it, and are up for doing something related to cost in the future as long as it’s more
balanced this time around!

○ Increased bonuses from Talent “Empowered Psionics” - +125% Damage,
50% faster spread between enemies
○ Fixed an issue where the Talent “Empowered Psionics” incorrectly made
Smite not cost any Peril```

[royal granite]

this explains a few things

[plucky flax]

How will I meme clutch now with the crab walk.

[magic vessel]

I don't feel so good Mr Deimos

[forest mason]

WAIT, LIES SURELY 😦

[dim parrot]

honestly yes, if it means I dont have 2 rely on my teammates

[plucky flax]

They tuning it to 5 dodges.

[near bluff]

why not? they didn't have a purpose, now u can push over crushers sometimes

[plucky flax]

RIP crab walking across the map.

[molten schooner]

me when 3 tox flamers spawned at once

[dim parrot]

crab dance

[forest mason]

at least buff the dodges abit, they were infinite but kinda meh

[tight birch]

Man those voidstrike changes, I'm going to krill myself

[royal granite]

i lost a bunch of aurics to massed toxflamers

[tight birch]

What's the new best staff

[magic vessel]

[modest pasture]

Its a great controller power. But yes, its nice to feel like a proper Sith Lord as well.

[plucky flax]

If you stare at the ground and side dodge you can out run a horde.

[forest mason]

Lightning probs imo?

[tight birch]

Yeah probably, least lightning is fun to use

[royal granite]

but i guess because i'm too self effacing i just thought "oh i guess i just need to get gooder"

[dim parrot]

good, good, let the hate flow trough u!

[pine relic]

They finally realized how terrible the damage it is.

[forest mason]

wrecks anything you point it at, just not great for killing lots of weaker things

[magic vessel]

So Assail unaimed, lost 50 damage, but aim gained 100? That's it?!

[ebon jolt]

Wait. I was excited when I saw the BR/BB buffs. But then saw they're going to buff enemy health.

[forest mason]

gonna make using it more interesting

[bleak tulip]

after 200 years they realized BB, in fact, bad

[pine relic]

empowered deals 1600 damage to the crusher

[bold flint]

where were you when assail is kill

[modest pasture]

Its nice to see a Fix List that isnt just LUL MAGIC SUX LETS DEBUFF EVERYTHING IN THE NAME OF BALANXE

[royal granite]

power, meaning it also lost 50 finesse and stagger i believe

[tight birch]

Time to change your name buddy, party's over

[royal granite]

so headshots less effective

[forest mason]

BB?

[royal granite]

i agree though i don't think it's enough

[forest mason]

People always assume Psyker OP cause its super obvious what he is doing

all big n flashy abilities

[bleak tulip]

I had this name since beta my Guy

[normal radish]

Why is Carapace here if literally no change was made

[tight birch]

That's quite the commitment

[digital narwhal]

AHAHAHA

YES

[bleak tulip]

that's the buff surge needed

[digital narwhal]

I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED THIS

[forest mason]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[pine relic]

yea. it is even weaker than the pre-overhaul patch

[near bluff]

enjoy

[royal granite]

holy shit they finally fixed the extra recoil from crouching with infantry autos

[steel flame]

Can't wait to go home after work and kill everything even harder with Mk4 and laspistol. Today is good day

[bronze seal]

going a bit off-topic but thank god! -

● Tweaked Beast of Nurgle slime slow from 50% to 20%```

[royal granite]

UH?

I MEAN

[digital narwhal]

W

[royal granite]

i guess if it's already oneshotting crushers it's not going to oneshot crushers any harder

[bleak tulip]

I assume they just vuffed the other ones to be in line with 4 as they likely intended

[forest mason]

Wow ok, love it

[proud thorn]

I was wondering when that was going to be patched.
Curious on what was applying that cauased it to break like this though because it almost seemed like there was a forgotten piece of code or something. (And by this I mean, was it inheriting it from like the brain burst augment, for instance).

[steel flame]

Maybe if we one shot them hard enough it wraps around and heals them instead

[magic vessel]

F-force sword buffs

[wet belfry]

I wonder if trauma was changed

[normal radish]

Shifting power makes me think that the more you spam it, the less overall damage it'll actually do

[tight birch]

You mean this?

[wet belfry]

Just the specal action

[magic vessel]

Wow the bonk lol

[worldly chasm]

Can't wait to use my staff special action, from never using it, to never using it still

[forest mason]

Less elites?

[digital narwhal]

At least it's got utility now

[bronze seal]

those changes are the same across all the staves

[ebon jolt]

RIP infinite FS dodges. Nooooo. One of the main reasons I liked Psyker since launch.

[tight birch]

Yeah otherwise Trauma seems unchanged

[naive imp]

smite got a giga buff didn't it?

[bronze seal]

decided instead to give Force Swords the same dodge count as the Combat
Knife(one of the best dodging weapons). This change was made together with an
overall bump in Force Sword damage and cleave output to compensate for the
dodge loss and other weapons power increase.```

[tight birch]

Just Voidstrike got shit on

[digital narwhal]

+125% damage with EP instead of +30% damage

[naive imp]

i mean that's...really good, right? lol

[digital narwhal]

Use it with -Peril Generation and Warp Rider.
Probably get some flamethrower-esque usage out of it.

[analog agate]

Did, did dueling swords just get a buff?

[bold flint]

isnt the duration of telekine dome already 20s, not 15?

[naive imp]

yea and now it does damage

[digital narwhal]

This change could make it a pretty nice horde clearer though, like Purgatus.

[tacit urchin]

charging a force staves bash should actually add an effect, change my mind.

[digital narwhal]

It was somewhat decent vs Poxies n' Groaners before

[ebon jolt]

125% more damage with a base of ass damage still isn't that great. Maybe better for hordes though.

[digital narwhal]

This'll make it more so

[obtuse walrus]

Void Staff stay winning

Only a slight reduction on Base Damage

Nothing too bad

[wet belfry]

Kinda

[near bluff]

and lost 25% into carapace

[wet belfry]

Keep in mind health values are going up.

[bronze seal]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/provisional-patch-14-notes-part-2/84503 for the force staves changes

[near bluff]

void still good, but no longer the all problem solver

[tacit urchin]

Slightly reduced the previous 70% buff applied to secondary fire to tune down
extreme damage on high health targets.

guess actual numbers are scary

[tight birch]

What do you mean those nerfs are pretty huge, lol

[neon steppe]

Tbh void nerfs probably aren’t enough, was so OP. We will see

[obtuse walrus]

Almost Negligable

[naive imp]

i mean psyker pretty braindead atm

[tight birch]

If it was just the base or the carapace nerf I would agree, but both is gonna hurt

[obtuse walrus]

And I barely use Voidstaff against Carapace

that's what BB is for

[tacit urchin]

void losing damage and every important target gaining health

[tight birch]

Void does way more against carapace currently, you shouldn't even be pulling out BB if you're using Void lol

Unless your aim is terrible

[neon steppe]

Void staff was fine pre big patch even in auric maelstrom. It is still stronger than it was then

[obtuse walrus]

[west smelt]

I had like 6 dreg flamers spawn in and everyone heard the clicking

[naive imp]

they need the screen edges to change

for monitoring

[tall mango]

The nerfs are good

[tight birch]

NO I WANT TO BE THE MAIN CHARACTER

[harsh urchin]

@spice veldt Duelling Swords: ● Slightly increase power on stab heavy attack

[tacit urchin]

weebs detected https://media.tenor.com/ZAxQVKFcp9kAAAAC/weebsdetected-weebs.gif

[harsh urchin]

ez

[royal granite]

we'll see with the BB buffs

[tall mango]

Still think empowered psionics should apply a peril cost reduction for smite

even 25% would be nice

[royal granite]

i've been running some non-infinite smite, it felt fine to me just for the cc honestly

[analog agate]

I think my blaze trauma build with bb and mkiv just got better (besides the nerf to combustion that is)

[obtuse walrus]

Either way, I couldn't give less of a shit what's effective. Imma keep using my funny staff and brain pop

[brave turret]

why

[bronze seal]

so it looks like Psykers are going to change their staves perks to 25% damage to carasapce then? lol

[brave turret]

4 stacks made it barely useful

[naive imp]

yea idk

[royal granite]

probably because BB was buffed

idk

[tall mango]

wait those BB buffs are kinda goated

[naive imp]

i feel like assail wasn't even really touched tbh

[steel flame]

There are mods to customize UI if you don't like it. Ill be real with you though, optimizing psyker has always included monitoring stacks, sorry to burst the bubble

[magic vessel]

They would be if everything's hp wasn't buffed

[plucky flax]

Vet got big buffs tho they will be happy again.

[tight birch]

Yeah I guess you could get around that part of the nerf, lose either 5% crit or 25% maniac damage, could maybe go without the maniac?

[static needle]

Is the Rashad Mk II any good for crowds?

[obtuse walrus]

BB Psykers stay winning 💪

[tall mango]

BB psykers stay winning

[ebon jolt]

They're increasing the HP of most of the stuff BB is bad against so not sure how much of a difference it will make. Probably able to more easily 2 tap crushers, reapers, mutants and maulers. Now will be harder to 1 tap scab ragers.

[static needle]

Is the Rashad Mk II any good for crowds? Its a combat axe

[obtuse walrus]

Reduces Movement Penalties from charging is a nice QoL

[magic vessel]

👏 Give 👏 purgastus 👏 showstopper 👏

[fierce crest]

holy gigabuffed BB

[royal granite]

keep in mind it's not 3 stacks max, it's additive, so if you obliterate a lot of specials it gets intense

[tall mango]

mfw literally no changes to fucking the mark keystone

GG

[tight birch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[fierce crest]

are bugfixes listed?

[bronze seal]

from what I can tell they're giving 0% damage increase to Caraspace enemies

[brave turret]

yes ik but 4 stacks atleast at a mimum could kill trash mob

[royal granite]

the change to assail isn't going to make it feel less awful for people leveling though

[naive imp]

those smite changes are nutty. lol

[steel flame]

👏 Give 👏 Surge 👏 Surge 👏

[royal granite]

it's still going to burn through games

[tall mango]

The smite changes are VERY minimal lol

[naive imp]

nope. not at all. tbh it's still going to be insanely strong

[tall mango]

The damage increase isnt very good

[magic vessel]

Yeah why the fuck does surge only hit like 2 targets lol

[naive imp]

it's double

[tall mango]

because youre still gonna do fuck all damage

[hollow jolt]

But no more infinite smite UwU

[brave turret]

its high damage now

[opal pebble]

I was already 30 when I used it, did it suckto lvl with?

[still hearth]

BB OP???

[brave fiber]

dude purgatos staff boutta be insane wtf

[still hearth]

Wait

They buffed it AGAIN?

[tall mango]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-dies-of-death-dies-of-cringe-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-24483379

[naive imp]

i didn't look at purg staff

[still hearth]

It's already so strong lmao

[obtuse walrus]

Always was

[royal granite]

from what i've heard, assail in difficulties 1-3 just obliterates everything

[steel flame]

I didn't see any puragatus changes ....

[hollow jolt]

Assail was just unfair in low difficulties

[plucky flax]

Why there's no change to it.

[still hearth]

I mean it did that in every difficulty

[tall mango]

shield buffs are kinda cracked

[plucky flax]

It stays mid.

[hollow jolt]

Check page 2

[brave fiber]

Page 2

[hollow jolt]

Purg got touched therep

[plucky flax]

It's special action.

[obtuse walrus]

My unchanged loadout from Release of Voidstrike Staff, Brain Burst and Deflctor Sword is even better

[plucky flax]

Bro it's the staff melee attack.

[magic vessel]

Bro haha

[plucky flax]

Why are you guys tripping?

Xd

[still hearth]

Yeah lmao

[bleak tulip]

hueg buff

[still hearth]

This isn't a buff

[tight birch]

Melee staff builds are going to be top tier now

[magic vessel]

Reading comprehension: impossible

[obtuse walrus]

'Special Attack' doesn't mean Secondary Attack, it means the staff bonk

[plucky flax]

"BIG BUFF TO STAFF SPECIAL ACTION"

[opal pebble]

So is assail still the best for clearing trash of the blitzes?

[plucky flax]

Literally no one ever use it.

[hollow jolt]

You don't do melee build purg?

[still hearth]

GUYS

[brave fiber]

Damn nvm then lmao

[hollow jolt]

Noob lol

[still hearth]

"0% CARAPACE TO 0% CARAPACE"

POGGGG

[bronze seal]

i wish they could've buffed the base crit damage for Soulblaze on elites unless they've done that in the past

[magic vessel]

Same people screaming BB buffed

[plucky flax]

Purg users can go back to the trash can.

[magic vessel]

Then see crushers got 20% more hp

[hollow jolt]

Melee psyker will raise one day

[obtuse walrus]

[magic vessel]

[still hearth]

Stop talking Trauma nerd.

[steel flame]

Lol. All they did was buff the bonk special

[plucky flax]

[obtuse walrus]

I don't care that Crushers have more health

[plucky flax]

No trauma nerf they forgot about it.

[hollow jolt]

That's all it needed 😎

[still hearth]

Unfair

Did they nerf void

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma gamers stay winning.

[magic vessel]

Yes

[dim parrot]

so... void still the best?

[royal granite]

higher enemy health means other classes have a chance to do damage before all the enemies disappear, assail is still good at 4+, it just doesn't make every other player feel like they're playing a walking simulator

[tight birch]

Trauma is so ass to use, I almost never see any

[obtuse walrus]

Slightly

[tight birch]

Maybe that's why they left it

[still hearth]

I mean I still feel that quite often

[obtuse walrus]

But not as bad as it could have been

[plucky flax]

Void was never best I out damage a voidstrike psyker with blaze trauma in melee only modifier.

[obtuse walrus]

It's still probably going to be the best choice

[tall mango]

I think void can remain a bowlingball

[still hearth]

Voidstrike nerfs look okay

[obtuse walrus]

[dim parrot]

nice, imma keep using void then

[plucky flax]

Void is just easier to play than trauma.

[bronze seal]

I would go 25% Damage to Caraspace and 25% Damage to whatever for the second perk next patch lol

[tall mango]

The real big buff

[naive imp]

oh easily

[obtuse walrus]

Like I mostly use the voidstrike to kill Hordes and Chaff Enemies anyways and BB for most other high priority targets

[naive imp]

but smite will be able to actually kill stuff while crowd controlling

[opal pebble]

Phew that’s what I was using it for

[obtuse walrus]

So - I switch often

[plucky flax]

That's why it didn't get nerf. It's so broken but people don't like right click flick wrist with it.

[naive imp]

it'll be better at killing bigger targets with the right click as well. lol

[ebon jolt]

Recon lasgun Infernus buffs 🧐

[obtuse walrus]

Trauma staff is fun, but I like the range with Void

[steel flame]

The purgatus staff changes are a meme

[tight birch]

I think it's fair for stuff that is really annoying / intensive to use to be a bit stronger

[bronze seal]

unless you still want to do "25% Damage to Caraspace" and "Increased Ranged crit hit chance" on your staves

[hollow jolt]

Recon got buffs overall time for recon lasgun psykers

[fierce crest]

i swear if axe heavy headshot doesnt stagger anymore

[royal granite]

maybe i'm just a god then idk, i used assail for 2 days after the skill tree patch and haven't touched it since, played mainly aurics, assail players felt like they dominated games but i still felt like a player.
mind, i haven't played any difficulty lower than 4 in a lot of months, so i don't know how assail feels there from personal experience, just what i heard

[plucky flax]

That's fair yeah. Void and assail do too much for how easy to play it is.

[obtuse walrus]

So long as they remained staggered by BB I don't care

[brave turret]

they are getting rid of force swords infinite dodge

wow

[dim parrot]

yeah thats kinda sad

[royal granite]

was fun while it lasted

[inland sand]

i would take a better weapon over infinite dodge

you don't need infinite dodges

[royal granite]

5 dodges is still good

[tight birch]

Maybe I'm bad but what situations do you get in where you need infinite dodges

[inland sand]

0

[tight birch]

I feel like you misplayed if you get to that point

[fierce crest]

you could already be in ass slapping range and not get hit

[plucky flax]

When you run away from the cop.

[royal granite]

daemonhost

[plucky flax]

Stare at the floor and side dodge spamming.

[bleak tulip]

infinite dodges was mostly for fun and meme clutches

[tight birch]

So misplay

[tall mango]

Im still going to use my force sword, fun sword

[vagrant frigate]

is there a patch

[still hearth]

This is still way too weak

+125% damage is nothing guys wtf

[royal granite]

sometimes you gotta deal with a smite fuckup someone else's mistakes

[tall mango]

Very much so

[vagrant frigate]

wait new patch

[dim parrot]

assail it is then

[still hearth]

[ebon jolt]

They're getting rid of infinite dodges but buffing the dueling sword. Don't understand.

[steel flame]

Oh, let's buff the useless special bonk on purgatus......that people DEFINITELY wanted to be usable and not changed to something interesting

[tall mango]

+125% of like..10

[fierce crest]

[plucky flax]

Fartshart racist agaisnt force sword enjoyers like me and you.

[bronze seal]

just throw in a Surge staff and you're good lol

[vagrant frigate]

NOO

[tall mango]

or 20?

[still hearth]

It's actually 13

But I think it ticks 2 times per second

So might be 26

Or something

[tall mango]

Rightits 13 and the left click on release does high damage (25)

[ebon jolt]

They're also nerfing the Mk1 claw sword. Boo.

[still hearth]

I mean it had like

[royal granite]

they buffed every staff bonk, i don't mind this too much, it's neat that you can stagger things with it now

[still hearth]

75 DPS or something I think

On most targets when I tested it

So now you can do 150 DPS

[tall mango]

wow 75

huge

[fierce crest]

they needed it

[still hearth]

Might've been less I don't remember

[tall mango]

i check

[dim parrot]

when will the patch happen?

[strong pilot]

does this really affect assail that much, seems like a tap on the wrist for all the outcry from reddit andies

[fierce crest]

yeah it does very little

[royal granite]

staff bonk buff would be more significant if staff ready was slower, but it's fast as hell so who cares

[tall mango]

all I pray for is a peril cost reduction

pls fart shart

[fierce crest]

also nerfed non spam m1 as much as spam m1 lul classic fatshark

[opal pebble]

Will it stagger a mauler?

[royal granite]

btw did i misread or did they nerf staff m1s?

[harsh urchin]

that's a straight 20% nerf

[still hearth]

Damn

That's a huge nerf

Deserved

But damn

I'm surprised they went that far

[brave fiber]

I think a good change to assail would be to increase the charge time of the shards cuz they come back wayyy too fast

[still hearth]

???

So we're just

[digital narwhal]

Crit Revolver Psyker still ballin'

[still hearth]

Always picking CDR again?

[ebon jolt]

🤯

[wet belfry]

Kinetic presence change is weird.

[still hearth]

People already didn't use it

And it didn't work properly

[obtuse walrus]

Considering how easy it is to clean through a Horde of enemies

[normal radish]

Psyker patch notes seem weird

[obtuse walrus]

It's managable

[still hearth]

Yeah no

I think 5%

[strong pilot]

cool, buff the single strongest melee weapon in the game

[still hearth]

Would be more than enough rn

[tall mango]

some of these changes are so damm silly

[still hearth]

You already have 5 other toughness regen traits

[strong pilot]

FS really missed the mark on these changes

[obtuse walrus]

• Combine it with the other ones like increase toughness on peril gained, increased toughness on peril quelled

it adds up

[royal granite]

basically everything we do regens toughness, we're not hurting in this department

[still hearth]

Some are very deserved

[wet belfry]

They are buffing the special

[still hearth]

Some changes are definitely like "okay but why?"

[tall mango]

some changes are good, others are weird, others are ?????

[wet belfry]

and making it able to proc rampage

[tall mango]

no ammo buff to plas gun??

[fierce crest]

sniper rifle

[tall mango]

bolter getting a buff to special attack (????????)

[wet belfry]

Its not a large buff to the duelign sword

[tacit urchin]

if smite and surge staff both end up being used for damage why would both exist

[obtuse walrus]

I think the best buff is definitely the Staff Bonk

[royal granite]

i'm thinking they aren't changing smite much because their stats on smite useage are heavily tainted by infinite smite users

[olive ember]

@spice veldt omg assail nerfed!

[fierce crest]

single target vs aoe

[digital narwhal]

and buffed at the same time

[olive ember]

shhh

[digital narwhal]

[olive ember]

i honestly don't get the point of the right click buff lmao

[fierce crest]

it didnt need the buff

[bleak tulip]

they buffed the fun part

[fierce crest]

it just needed half charges and regen

it was already fun as a quick swap weapon

[tall mango]

can we talk about how EP buffs smite by…30%

[normal radish]

Shifting damage probably means, at least in my guess, that the more you spam it the less damage it'll actually do, so you have to be more tactical and slow with it now

[fierce crest]

if they wanted to buff m2 it should have just been same peril cost as m1

[tepid umbra]

For trauma staff, which one of these would you recommend?

[fierce crest]

2nd

[harsh urchin]

assail is potentially gutted, need to test in game

[royal granite]

warp resistance is a dump stat

[bronze seal]

Warp Resistance is non-existence

[harsh urchin]

if it doesnt hit the 1 SBS breakpoints against trash anymore on the left click

in 5s

[obtuse walrus]

charge Rate and Blast radius is king on Trauma Staff

[fierce crest]

it could have half the guts it did before and it would still be good

[tepid umbra]

Nice

[harsh urchin]

yeah but they nerfed damage

[fierce crest]

a gutting is a balancing

[brave fiber]

by 50

[harsh urchin]

and breakpoints in this game

are very huge

[tepid umbra]

Wait why?

[tacit urchin]

every damage nerf is also going against multiple enemies having health buffs

[fierce crest]

its a homing peircing spam weapon

it doesnt care about breakpoints

[harsh urchin]

breakpoints

[harsh urchin]

lol go back to playing malice

[wet belfry]

Breakpoints either way matter the most

[tepid umbra]

Did they nerf assail? Are there some patch notes?

[wet belfry]

it makes or breaks weapons.

[fierce crest]

its nerfed more for single shards than spam cuz of that lul

[bronze seal]

im still confused on the Kinetic Presence change though. maybe has to do with the BB buffs?

[plucky flax]

Sorry that's too hard I play sedition

[olive ember]

it just means if you are doing single shards then just rmb

[fierce crest]

kind of a rude way to admit you were wrong

[olive ember]

you can play normal sedition?

I only play low int sedition

[plucky flax]

Low intensity gamers

[dim parrot]

when will the update drop?

[tacit urchin]

imagine an assail psyker swapping to a staff or force sword for elites

[fierce crest]

auric should be able to roll low intensity

and then its just normal damnation

[tall mango]

damage on smite goes from
13 pre EP per tick
To about
19 post EP per tick
so this change will bring it up to about
29 per tick with EP

[bronze seal]

probably in a week?

[ebon jolt]

My gun psyker build is ready for this buff:

[dim parrot]

aight bet

[bronze seal]

@dim parrot the changes are not final

[tall mango]

so it’s still going to suck at killing things, but it’ll take significantly less time to do so

[tacit urchin]

lasguns have inversed falloff?

[dim parrot]

they aren't?

[fierce crest]

some do

most do

[spice oar]

double dmg on the smite when empowered

[deft osprey]

I have a surge staff with T4 terrifying barrage, should I swap it out for T3 warp nexus or keep it?

[spice oar]

more than double

[bronze seal]

@dim parrot its stated in the forum post -

Just to make you aware these notes and changes are not final, and may still be changed before the release.

[tall mango]

13 to 29 is a 2.2x increase roughly

[dim parrot]

thank u kind sir🎩

[sour bison]

w8 wat

[obtuse walrus]

let me get this straight, when it was 'Armour Modifiers' and it goes up

[tepid umbra]

Also what are the best blessings on Trauma staff? Rending shockwave and something else?

[obtuse walrus]

that's better right

[fierce crest]

i forgot what part of the patch notes i was at and had a mini panic reading the first line

[tall mango]

Now just make the peril cost reduced with EP and i’ll be happy

[plucky flax]

Last time they said that the patch came out exactly as the note. It's more to say that future hotfix might adjust stuff.

[sour bison]

buff for mk4 dueling sword?

wat?

[dim parrot]

xD

[tepid umbra]

Wait buff? It is considered weak?

[tall mango]

i do like the shield buffs

[steel flame]

I'm liking the nice 25 damage boost that laspistol got

[tepid umbra]

Anyone know the answer?

[bold flint]

● Changed Force Swords dodge limit from Infinite to 5 (same as Combat Knife)

[sour bison]

[fierce crest]

blaze crit, or rending chain speed

[tepid umbra]

People keep mentioning changes, where are the patch notes?

[dim parrot]

yawning is annoying as hell og

[fierce crest]

you should have a ping in the announcements channel

[steel flame]

Rending flurry, or blazing spirit 3 and nexus

[bold flint]

#📢news-bulletin

[tall mango]

Actually at max peril with warp rider, the damage on smite goes up to 16, so 35 post changes

[ebon jolt]

Vld nerfs justified for vets but feels bad for Psykers D:

[tall mango]

that, won’t really matter though

[normal radish]

Honestly I'm eager to see what changes they make to Vet

[normal radish]

I believe there's a perk that increases the dodge count by 1 so you can have 6

Which is pretty fuckin good if you ask me, even if it's a change from infinite dodging

[fierce crest]

buffed damage too

[strong gulch]

There's 2 builds rending shockwave + flurry or blazing spirit + nexus.

FYI, brittleness is teamwide rending. If your team doesn't know or isn't coordinating, the rending goes ununtilized.

[brazen acorn]

surge staff got a huge buff to dopamine production

[steel flame]

Still waiting for surge to get surge

[tepid umbra]

Then I pray for my team

[digital narwhal]

It's already my favourite Staff.
This just reinforces it.

Surge + Smite will be the most visually appealing Psyker loadout now.

[tall mango]

fun fact, repeatedly clicking left click and letting it go does more damage then just holding left click

[fierce crest]

but head popping :(

[tall mango]

i find that quite silly

[brazen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[fierce crest]

yo this is actually huge

they were unusable with True Aim

[wintry quail]

i knew it was a bug and i knew it was coming but yea lets remove the one thing that keeps smite competitive with assail because we only want to see assail psykers blowing up 4x a map

[digital narwhal]

Agripinaa IAG winning

[fierce crest]

no

[brazen acorn]

they do tend to blow up don’t they

[digital narwhal]

Also, the gibbing for Surge might genuinely be a useful informational buff.

To see what's actually dead sooner.

[dim parrot]

bruh

[wintry quail]

blowing up

[fierce crest]

mistify

[digital narwhal]

You know how Smite makes enemies explode?

That

[fierce crest]

chunkify

salsafy

[spice oar]

Las pistol buff

[spice oar]

YES

[digital narwhal]

Rager Salsa
Brought to you by Warp Fuckery

[spice oar]

I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT 2 DAYS AGO

[wintry quail]

even with assail nerf its still the only solid choice, bb just aint it any more considering assail does the same thing to 91234029340 targets per bolt

[digital narwhal]

(May include Diseases and Plagues)

[frozen osprey]

Why would they call this a new patch instead of a hotfix
It's literally all balance and bugfixing zero new content

[wintry quail]

smite was fun and the infinite channel made it actually hilarious vs hunting grounds

[brazen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[wintry quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1083402565590458368/Bonk.gif

[digital narwhal]

Hotfixes are cobbled updates designed to act quickly on issues.
Patches are larger changes with goals in mind.

This is classified as a patch.

[dim parrot]

so in the end, I might still use void and Illisi

[frozen osprey]

Cringe
I want more stuff!!!!

[wintry quail]

dueling sword is cracked now, i've stopped using illisi

[spice oar]

smites getting a strong buff for dmg and better cc with empowered, meaning you can actually kill a horde with it

[ebon jolt]

The illisi damage buff is pretty significant.

[wintry quail]

1shot mutants on headshot is crazy

[ebon jolt]

Wish they also increased dodge range and speed tho.

[fierce crest]

is this like human centipede

[wintry quail]

6 dmg -> 9 dmg is still not enough for horde clear.

150% of 6 is still less than 10.

[digital narwhal]

Considering they've "fixed the game" and we've hit that point where one massive patch comes out, like what happened with VT2, we might see the gates open and a rush of new stuff come our way.

[wintry quail]

smite doesn't DO damage

thats why it being infinite made sense

it's JUST cc

[digital narwhal]

This is exactly what happened with VT2.

Almost nothing for almost a year.

Big big patch.

More rapid updates.

[wintry quail]

NOTHING
BBB
EVERYTHING

[fierce crest]

no it didnt

[wintry quail]

it was CRAZY

[frozen osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[spice oar]

grab enfeeble and warp rider and itll be enough dont you worry

[brazen acorn]

I suspect a lot of that was Xbox development

[digital narwhal]

This isn't copium, it's a genuine trend.

[naive imp]

so what does smite tick for now?

[wintry quail]

but muh quell speed

yea warp rider is necessary

[frozen osprey]

Its a sample size of 1 so i dont have much hope im sorry

[wintry quail]

kek

[acoustic spade]

SAME I thought they were gonna be like instagibbing mutants now

[spice oar]

10-12 dmg every 0.5 secs we think

[spice oar]

when with a max dmg build

[digital narwhal]

It's +125%, not a 150% modifier

[naive imp]

after patch you mean?

[spice oar]

yeah

[wintry quail]

ah, so 15

[naive imp]

i mean that's not bad tbh. it does dick all now. rofl

purgatus into smite

[digital narwhal]

YO

[tall mango]

on average the damage is 10-12

[fierce crest]

infinite revolver meta incoming

[wintry quail]

15 dmg a tick when everything has 200+ is sttill not great.

[spice oar]

Pysker Dot Build is real

[tall mango]

It’ll never reach 15

[wintry quail]

always has been

[naive imp]

but it has perma cc

[tall mango]

it’s more like 28 with EP post patch

[wintry quail]

not any more :)

[naive imp]

it's better than 2 damage. lol

[tall mango]

which would translate to 56 per second

Roughly

[spice oar]

the perma cc was overpowered lets be real

[wintry quail]

so old surge staff.

[digital narwhal]

Also, I mentioned Suppression Immunity for Scrier's Gaze in Ogryn chat, and I think Hadzi might be taking the idea to the playtest team since he genuinely seemed to enjoy the idea.

You're welcome.

[spice oar]

swag, palpatine will be so fun now

[tall mango]

The sniper staring me down:

[wintry quail]

nurgle blessed enemies

[fierce crest]

sadly it already stacked so the actual reload speed is halved

[spice oar]

Oh?

[digital narwhal]

I mean-

[fading galleon]

Not you thinking any of the Ogryn playtesters are actually going to spend time on Psyker nerd shit

[digital narwhal]

[tall mango]

Let me playtest, i’ll make sure smite is good

[digital narwhal]

Still, Hadzi said it was a genuinely good idea.

[fierce crest]

its still way nicer to use but sad that the listed buff already existed and is actaully a nerf

[fading galleon]

Jk Hadzi might do that, he spreads his time around a little.

[dim parrot]

I wanna cosplay as actual darth sidious lmao

[near wyvern]

Someone mentioned psyker dot build?
https://youtu.be/XLXpJMyRQdg

[digital narwhal]

:(

But yeah

hopefully we get Suppression Immunity for Scrier's Gaze

Revvy Psyker stays winning

[fierce crest]

🙏

[west smelt]

Cosplaying Puss in Boots rn, just need the cape

https://tenor.com/view/unsheathing-sword-puss-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-its-finished-were-done-gif-26016673

[tall mango]

Next we gotta buff right side keystone

[dim parrot]

fear me if u dare!

[digital narwhal]

[olive ember]

ya know wat link it

[valid spire]

im hopeful for the smite changes, i already liked it for horde lockdown for the boys to come in and sweep up, that little damage boost will help when they cant get to the whole horde in time

[olive ember]

I wanna try it out I'm bored

[fierce crest]

please hadzi

[digital narwhal]

In Hadzi we trust

[atomic tapir]

does warp dmg count for staffs right click?

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[fierce crest]

yes

[atomic tapir]

ohhh ty

[digital narwhal]

Anything that uses Peril as a resource is "Warp"

[atomic tapir]

great thank you

[fierce crest]

warp damage is staff m1/m2, force sword special, blitzes, soulblaze

[wanton wraith]

I would like to thank fatshark for making my psyker run smooth to lvl30 since I'm not a hindrance in damnation runs with the help of ASSAIL

[dim parrot]

can any of u siblings pls make me a sandwich?

[fierce crest]

and soulblaze

[solid kettle]

empowered psionics or disrupt destiny for my keystone, which is better?

[digital narwhal]

Honestly, Surge M1 is eating good with the buffs to Staff M1s in Patch #13, especially since it has the Crit Bonuses

I love Surge M1

Actually feels potent

[spice oar]

real talk the new gibbing on surge better be a blue explosion and not purple. Need my lightning to be color coded

[digital narwhal]

I mean, EP is generally better, but I use DD with my Revvy Psyker to hit Rager one taps and Crusher 3 taps for example.

[tall mango]

that’s what it’s called, disrupt destiny

[digital narwhal]

EP is generally better, but DD can help you hit breakpoints which can be nice.

[tall mango]

praying for some buffs

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[fierce crest]

why do we not have a praygryn emote

[digital narwhal]

@fading galleon

Make it happen

[olive ember]

but thats too much thinking

[fierce crest]

@fading galleon pls

[olive ember]

i need a funny tree so no thought is needed

[digital narwhal]

In Hank we trust.

[solid kettle]

thanks for the quick response, still tryna get into the whole psyker thing

[fierce crest]

[digital narwhal]

I think if you're new to Psyker

Use EP

DD is more niche

[solid kettle]

alright i will :D

[digital narwhal]

Glad I could help

[solid kettle]

this server is actually amazing, so many people in here, which is both good and bad

xd

[fierce crest]

psyker chat best chat

[digital narwhal]

Luckily most of the sane people are in Ogryn Chat and Psyker Chat, so-

[fierce crest]

zealot chat worst chat

[digital narwhal]

stay around those two

and you'll be fine

[tall mango]

the veterans are rapid

they’ve gone insane since the update

[digital narwhal]

The Veterans are just fucking weird.

[fierce crest]

i dont play vet so idk about that chat

[solid kettle]

i started with a vet and now i quite like the psyker so i might switch fr

[digital narwhal]

And the Zealots are Slaaneshi Daemons.

[fierce crest]

skulls for the golden throne

problem inquisitor?

[solid kettle]

zealots are weird, i dont get the purpose of them.. but that fire thingy they got is quite nice

[fierce crest]

purgatus better

[normal radish]

Playing like an actual guardsmen and not a Terminator standing there shitting out buckets of damage while taking nothing in return will do that to you

[tropic lagoon]

So I'm confused, when is patch 14 coming? this week possibly?

[fierce crest]

who knows

[normal radish]

Monster in melee, team support, and more tools for when things go to shit providing a better safety net overall

[tropic lagoon]

Also, I nailed it. Empowered Smite +125% damage is absolutely poggers

Was really hoping for a peril resist too, but +50% spread and +125% damage is insane

[whole oxide]

we're now enslaved to the xbox certification for patches

[spice oar]

you think anybody will use kinetic presence now?

5% extra dmg is kinda ass

[austere estuary]

still good

[tropic lagoon]

small bits and pieces of a few % here and there add up tho

[austere estuary]

aura remember too

I'm just amazed void didn't get hit too hard

[tropic lagoon]

I personally prefer seer's presence

Yeah, and dome shield and brain burst getting pretty fucking good

[austere estuary]

like

[fierce crest]

holy

[austere estuary]

I thought for sure it'd be hit harder than 100 dmage

though carapace is a bummer, we'll still stagger the crap outta crushers etc anyway

[tropic lagoon]

Still won't use brain burst, but it's nice to see it buffed

[austere estuary]

I have brain burst but never focus on it

[spark fractal]

It’s probably still the best staff, this is like a 15% nerf, though in practice might be worse since the big boys all got health increases

[austere estuary]

honestly I don't use any blitz at all when using void or trauma

yeah a little, but with stagger as good as it is nbd

[wet belfry]

Deserved

[summer prairie]

BB should at least be more enjoyable to use if you can move around holding your precharge

[austere estuary]

even if they hit it by like 50% on the big boys it'd be fine

[wet belfry]

that weapon has been bad for so long.

[near wyvern]

Smite with enfeeble, left side, quell on kill and warp battery with peril reduction

[dim parrot]

hopefully making me maybe do the penances

[fierce crest]

headchoppers stay winning

[near wyvern]

If it's not gonna affect BB break points it's gonna be useless. If it does, it becomes mandatory for BB builds.

[summer prairie]

the BB armour modifiers changes won't matter much

[austere estuary]

which combat axe do you like most?

[fierce crest]

antax for more damage with brutal momentum

[frank moat]

Really liking the look of the Psyker changes overall

[spark fractal]

The 5, but illisi buffed (lol) so I see no reason not to use illisi

[frank moat]

Though is the only Assail nerf the 50 damage reduction?

[fierce crest]

[harsh urchin]

it can potentially be massive, as I said

[wet belfry]

Elite were buffed aswell

[harsh urchin]

if you lose a breakpoint from it

[frank moat]

There’s no way people won’t still complain

[harsh urchin]

you do half damage with it essentially

[spark fractal]

It’s actually a buff if you’re using the aim a bunch to get at snipers and things, that’s like a 50% damage increase

[austere estuary]

imo duelling sword for just moving fast and elite killing is still great

[frank moat]

But if Smite and BB are both getting buffs maybe we’ll start seeing less Assail

[harsh urchin]

if it goes from taking 1 shot to 2 shot to kill trash

[dim parrot]

never

[sonic coral]

I just assume that every time I boot up the game my entire build will have been made functionally useless and I'll have to re-learn everything again anyway so who cares what's buffed or nerfed or shitted or unshitted or supershitted

[fierce crest]

both my weapons got buffed

[dim parrot]

good 4 u sibling

[spark fractal]

When you’re spamming primary into a horde there’s so many projectiles bouncing around I doubt you’d notice

[tall mango]

my cowboy psyker build got hella buffed

and my BB blaze build

very fun times

[fierce crest]

but when you dont spam the breakpoint will matter

[sonic coral]

is the patch "supposed" to be dropping today?

or is this an end of month thing

[fierce crest]

[dim parrot]

meaning the stronger throw isn't as good anymore?

[fierce crest]

no the m2 is actually strong now

i meant swapping to throw one m1

[dim parrot]

the spam? oh god

[fierce crest]

wut

m2 is the slow aimed shot

[spark fractal]

If you’re using primary, you’re spamming, I’d you’re using secondary, you’re doing more damage than before, so i don’t think the nerf is even bad

[frank moat]

Force Sword dodge limit 😩

[dim parrot]

ooooooh yeah ok thats nice

[spark fractal]

It’s gonna be so good picking off that bomber or sniper you see from across the room now

[spice oar]

most important part of the patch is the force staff bash buffs

[fierce crest]

and yet they say this

[dim parrot]

yessir

[dim parrot]

lmao

[fierce crest]

spamming m1 is now enforced

[near wyvern]

And they are gonna buff duelling swords

[spark fractal]

Are they gonna be viable at clearing crowds? Do we use staves to melee hordes now? Stay tuned!

[fierce crest]

in order to reduce spammyness we are making single m1s even worse than spammed m1s

[dim parrot]

maybe, who knows xD imma still use my force sword

[fierce crest]

[olive ember]

Staff horde clear

WOOOo

[near wyvern]

Unlimited dodge will be gone tho, that sucks

[digital narwhal]

I'm still just gonna run Revvy + Assail + Chainsword for one loadout and Surge + Smite + Chainsword for my other.
That's all I really need tbh

[near wyvern]

Hopefully the damage buffs are good enough to slap that deflector back on

[dim parrot]

I mean if its actually like that 1 arrow from yondu that would be kinda cool ngl

[frank moat]

Surge staff gibs now

[tall mango]

the m1 is less but the M2 is more damage

[fierce crest]

yeah thats how i played it

probly just not worth single m1ing anymore

spam or nothing

[near wyvern]

Huge

[dim parrot]

does it stay out longer after throwing?

[dim parrot]

;-;

[fierce crest]

dont think so, just more damage

[near wyvern]

M2? No but it locks easier at far ranges

[dim parrot]

yay?

[near wyvern]

Cause the hip fire spread + 10m lock on range becomes unreliable after like 40m

[fierce crest]

so its 200 vs 340 now

instead of 250 for both

[royal falcon]

it's so over

[fierce crest]

homing is the same for both

[digital narwhal]

Tbh, I love that for information.
Let's me know instantly my main target dies, or if it's the chain killing trash.

[summer prairie]

the aimed assail shots are supposed to have longer duration, like 3s vs 2.5s

not sure if they do

[frail geyser]

Lol i was right about them barely changing the assail build

[fierce crest]

i thought all they did was lock on from further

[royal falcon]

this sorta looks like assail shids and fards on brain burst even more

[frail geyser]

Working as intended lets go

[fierce crest]

[near wyvern]

They don't seem to

[dim parrot]

yay still players leaving when they see assail psykers

[frank moat]

Wonder if I’ll be able to OHKO muties with my Deimos now

[fierce crest]

simply dont throw assail til like 5 minutes in

[digital narwhal]

I think they're trying not to hammer it.
Same is happening with Ogryn's Bleed n' Burn.

[strong gulch]

I was very sleepy when I did this testing so it might be hooey, but the 5% more damage node got me just over a breakpoint on BB with an EP stack to one shot a dreg rager.

[frail geyser]

The design intent of assail shows that the devs want a much more fun game than the players do

[dim parrot]

dont even mean during the game

[digital narwhal]

They don't want to gut things, and so they're being careful maybe.

[tall mango]

I think that’s smart

[dim parrot]

most players leave when they even see u have it equipped

[tall mango]

Make everything equally strong

[frail geyser]

Assail is tight and i got friends to try the game by showing them 5min of assail gameplay

[near wyvern]

It's 10% currently, not 5%. And it doesn't affect specials like it claims to. Next patch they gonna change BB damage again so until the patch is live, nothing can be said about the future break points.

Or you mean ranged damage +5%? Shouldn't affect BB

[royal falcon]

I can agree that it's fun to use
but there's still the issue of it kinda robbing your teammates of gameplay

[fierce crest]

assail and inf surge sucked for that reason

not that they were OP

[dim parrot]

understandable, that sucks a lot

[royal falcon]

and smite just robs your teammates of FPS lol

[dim parrot]

but like, they judge u before they even know if u abuse it or nah xD

[summer prairie]

"Fixed an area around the combat ability in the Psyker tree, where talent node paths would allow for incorrect navigational behaviour" which one is this

[frail geyser]

Ive been running t5/auric with assail psykers on other classes and still get plenty of gameplay

[near wyvern]

I would just do it so assails do a bit more per shard but it takes longer to regain them. So that assail becomes your "that group die now" tool but can't spam it as a primary weapon.

[harsh urchin]

the ppl complaining about this shit are playing malice/heresy

[frail geyser]

Esp hi int

[harsh urchin]

it's horrifically overtuned in lower difficulties

because stuff has like 40% less hp

so it one shots everything

[dim parrot]

also with enemies getting health buffs now lol

[royal falcon]

does that mean they should be dismissed

[harsh urchin]

yes

[frank moat]

I’m surprised Hand-Cannon wasn’t fixed, or at least it’s not turning up on a Ctrl-F

[royal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

[summer prairie]

they never list all the fixes/changes

[royal falcon]

wron g,,,,

[fierce crest]

dont see anything for it

[dim parrot]

https://youtu.be/LtH7l-dhHZQ?feature=shared

[summer prairie]

pretty sure kinetic presence is now both special and elite dmg

[ebon jolt]

Have to start getting an MG1a ready for next patch.

[frail geyser]

They could just tune blitz to each difficulty differently and see if people still have issues (they wouldn't)

[royal falcon]

bring back shoving kids into lockers

[near wyvern]

At the moment? No. For patch 14 we gotta wait and see.

[summer prairie]

talking about the patch

[dim parrot]

wasn't that locker shoving prime time when that video aired?

[near wyvern]

Immeasurably complex

[royal falcon]

you right

[frail geyser]

Assail psykers still getting mollywhopped in the higher diffs jf they dont know how to play

[royal falcon]

assail psykers when chaos spawn

[near wyvern]

Well if you don't know what dodge button does or what is blocking you gonna get stomped

Ass sail psykers

[bold flint]

● Special Action Armour Modifiers:
○ Unyielding: 100% to 50%.```
they really did staff smack dirty

[royal falcon]

sobbing

[plucky flax]

RIP trying to smack monsters.

[royal falcon]

can't believe they nerfed staff smack,,,

[near wyvern]

Crazy DPS loss

[royal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/death-davy-jones-gif-21386337

[dim parrot]

I wanna smack an ogryn on the cheeks

[royal falcon]

if an ogryn slaps you on the cheeks would your pelvis just shatter

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[gilded viper]

Voidstrike nerf and surge can now gib, interesting

[dim parrot]

probably, but so worth it

[summer prairie]

They talk about armor modifiers but they might actually be also changing impact modifiers so your pokes are like DS special attack

[royal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-40k-warhammer-ogryn-gif-8440002666976363995

[dim parrot]

oh god...

very fast ogryn is extremely scary 4 some reason

[near wyvern]

The gib is actually a nerf, cause you see, wildfire has this bug where it procs off bodies, but if you have no body no extra procs

[royal falcon]

ogryn running as fast as a right tree zealot w/ combat knife

[strong gulch]

Ranged damage. I wouldn't think it would but it did.

[dim parrot]

D:

[gilded viper]

Ngl, I really don’t care about Blazing Spirit

[royal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-darktide-oryx-gif-14283469670598028816

[fresh reef]

So lemme get this straight, they decided to buff the staff special attack (seriously who asked for this?) and then made it still get out DPS'd by combat knife push attack spam? Fucking lol?

[dim parrot]

can someone do a backflip for me?

[fresh reef]

I'm not complaining that's just really funny

[plucky flax]

That's fake I see the box.

[gilded viper]

When can we get a laspistol sidearm for our staves?

[frank moat]

I want to see staff bash get buffed to kingdom fuck

[royal falcon]

hallucinating

[frank moat]

Bash meta

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

Almost certain the staff special attacks are about stagger not the damage

[royal falcon]

also does anyone have that vid where an ogryn smacks a leaping pox hound into the stratosphere in the meat grinder

[dim parrot]

can that be me, but without box?

[near wyvern]

Out of my 700 hours in this game, mostly as Psyker, I have killed 1 enemy with the staff special attack. 1 enemy. It was on damnation tho.

[fresh reef]

Ok but who in their right mind is poking someone with a trauma staff for the stagger?

[gilded viper]

Should be a penance

[summer prairie]

you might if it works on a mutant like the DS special attack

[naive imp]

did assail actually get a buff?

same horde clear but can kill specials easier?

[dim parrot]

yes and no

[gilded viper]

They made left click spam weaker but made the sniper shot better

[dim parrot]

but essentially yes

[naive imp]

rofl

[fresh reef]

Make staff bash do 500 damage with 100% damage to all armor classes. I legitimately would not see any issue with this given how clunky it is

[naive imp]

nothing about charges, recharge time, etc

[whole oxide]

just nerfing assail left-click by 20% is kinda astonishing

it'll still be tearing up everything below damnation

[strong gulch]

There could be some other reaction / interplay that I'm not aware of tho. I just know that when I have an EP stack and high peril with warp rider I can single head pop a rager when the +5% ranged damage node is ticked and I can't when it isn't.

[royal falcon]

"we wanted to make assail less spammy"
goes nothing to actually make it less spammy

this truly is the darktide

[naive imp]

yea i mean it needs the charges cut in half

[fresh reef]

Good thing these changes are provisional, yeah?

[dim parrot]

I wanna fight a goose rn

[summer prairie]

if all elites now take an extra hit to kill, it's very meaningful

[royal falcon]

true

[gilded viper]

They could always gut it more before the patch comes out.

[modest pasture]

Goose Game?

[fresh reef]

About Plasma's cleave, is my understanding of cleave values correct in that it now pierces up to 100 fucking enemies?

[ebon jolt]

Sad to see no Kinetic Flayer or Becalming Eruption buffs or a Warp Rupture change.

[naive imp]

voidstaff 2.0

xD

[gilded viper]

Truly a blessed armament of the Omnissiah

[dim parrot]

very cool game :D

[cold oasis]

We do however feel that without it Smite can feel a bit lacklustre in combination
with Empowered Psionics, so we’re further increasing the power of it

... are they giving even more pitiful damage to Smite?

[gilded viper]

Are people using smite for the damage?

[modest pasture]

I use Smite for Control.

[cold oasis]

Yeah, no, that's why i don't get it

[boreal dawn]

I wonder how smite will feel with 125% increased damage with empowered psionics? Like it feels like they made a cc nuke ability why would I want to do damage I'm using smite to support my team let them do the damage wth

[modest pasture]

Stunning like 6 foes at a time is no joke

[cold oasis]

they need to give it 1000% damage to do anything

[fresh reef]

I'm gonna actually run Vet with plasma now. The power fantasy is unreal

[naive imp]

the smite base damage needs to be flamethrower levels

[cold oasis]

the base damage is what, 6? 10?

[young meteor]

Yeah, I'm a damanation+ player, but I can see assail being a problem for malice gamers trying toget the fundamentals of combat

[naive imp]

at a minimum

[cold oasis]

The fact that it went from 50% to 125% change nothing

[dim parrot]

but like, reduced bubble popping right? :(

[naive imp]

assail turns darktide into a walking simulator even on heresy

[queen delta]

assail isnt so op as much as the other 2 are underpowered imo

[cold oasis]

Assail is fun, just run burn ogryn and be afk waiting for a boss to spawn

[cold oasis]

Yeah, nah man

[fresh reef]

Should be roughly equivalent to the 85 rating shredder you get at the beginning of the game

[proven stirrup]

Oh wow that assail nerf aint so bad

[young meteor]

For sure

[naive imp]

it's a buff tbh

[proven stirrup]

Right?

[naive imp]

which is comical

[hearty sedge]

Ragers now have 1200 hp each

[proven stirrup]

The rightclick makes more sense to be the powerful tool

[near wyvern]

Do you have warp rider on? What is your peril % when you stsrt the cast. With EP and Warp Rider you should be able to one shot when starting the cast at around 15% peril.

[gilded viper]

I think smite is fine for what it does. Brain burst idk, I still use it on builds without good armor damage

[proven stirrup]

they could stand to lower the lmb a bit more but they'll get there

as it stands, I'm glad it's not completely dead

[dim parrot]

the increased enemy health makes me not dream well I think

[hearty sedge]

They basically went and said hey, you know all those carefully balanced breakpoints you have to deal with the most dangerous enemy in the game? Yeah fuck you ragers now 50% more HP.

[boreal dawn]

I just don't understand

They designed this game without teamplay at all everyone is selfish just like in the original destiny and still to this day. Are there ways to support your team sure but they ain't gonna be as fun.

[cold oasis]

So, they're not fixing Shield and warp charges?

Or did they simply forget it in the patch notes

[frail geyser]

Assail is best support build

[hearty sedge]

They're not even fixing destiny

[naive imp]

assail lets 1 psyker clear 2 hordes

[frail geyser]

Psyker gief toughness

[fresh reef]

That was in the notes

[cold oasis]

Reduced the numbers of Soulblaze stacks applied to nearby enemies on Elite or
Specialist kills from 4 to 3

Nice. the 4 stacks really were too powerfull

[gilded viper]

They nerfed the warp damage toughness regen

[dim parrot]

lmao

[orchid nest]

if you mean the instant cooldown I think that was in the notes

[boreal dawn]

They fixed the bugs shield was having

[summer prairie]

fixing what about the shield? The warp charges giving it instant cooldown is in the notes

[near wyvern]

Brain burst should be designed as an absolute tank buster and great DPS.

Channel for 3 seconds, generate like 60% peril per cast and absolutely nuke any mob with single cast.

[cold oasis]

Oh cool, they nuked the 10% elite damage

so we back to running CDR

[gilded viper]

Like actually tho, purge doesn’t need to run soulblaze talents, who is this affecting?

[proven stirrup]

That would make it be terrible dps pygex

[summer prairie]

They probably fixed cdr stacking both auras

[near wyvern]

That's based tho now that you can have quietitude + many more things on at the same time

[frail geyser]

But then bb would invalidate lower level content

[fresh reef]

Prescience 4%>5% WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK 🙏🙏🙏

[cold oasis]

I mean, on Auric that talent does absolutely nothing

[proven stirrup]

Having to quell after about every use kinda defeats the purpose of dps being a factor. It's called brain burst for a reason

[cold oasis]

It's just a lightshow to amuse yourself

[near wyvern]

Killing a single target every 3 seconds? Not really...

[gilded viper]

I didn’t really run it to begin with, 15% on a warp kill felt like cheating

[still hearth]

That's better than some Auric players

[lethal lagoon]

Next patch is out or just the notes?

[still hearth]

Notes

[cold oasis]

just pre-patch notes

[still hearth]

The patch is probably tomorrow

[gilded viper]

Notes and subject to change

[still hearth]

Thursday is the standard day

[boreal dawn]

Have the fixed the penances yet or no? I didn't see it in the patchnotes