psyker-class

[upbeat parcel]

warpcharges needs some buffs feels like psionics does everything it does better

[half turtle]

so if there's like 3 flamers and a bomber and you only have one charge you need to get the bomber last

because if you get the bomber first you don't one shot flamers any more

[upbeat parcel]

yeah that is annoying

[half turtle]

i feel like the main upside of warp charges is the f cd refund

it feels much better with wall than with vent

[upbeat parcel]

even then I wish the warp charge being consumed was a optional thing

and not something u have to deal with when you're taking it

[half turtle]

id like the cdr to be passive (and maybe smaller) and not consume the stacks yeah

especially with vent you hit f because you're in a bad spot

so now you're in a bad spot but also deal 24% less damage

less cdr but no stack consumption would feel a lot better

otoh this is a classic skill issue

[steel flame]

Close enough

[winter magnet]

what changes would yall recommend on this?

[kind jay]

i'd personally swap unyield for maniac for those sweet sweet pokes

[spice veldt]

i'd keep unyielding for a more generalist sword and be content with two-shotting mutants

[queen trout]

swap specialists to...something else lol. i think your pretty set otherwise

[winter magnet]

what about for blessings? Is shred and uncanny strike just lucky rolls that I got?

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike is gr8 and a must-have

[queen trout]

its what i use ill say yes

[upbeat parcel]

u could gamble for shred 4 but otherwise it's good

[winter magnet]

sweet, thank yall

[spice veldt]

as for the 2nd blessing, I like Riposte/Shred/Precognition/Rampage(since rampage is giving a ~2x damage bonus currently)

I generally prefer riposte but there's no strictly "bad" option

[winter magnet]

o shit, thats high

sweet, I usually plat zealot so Im not to familiar with dueling sword perks

thanks

[spice veldt]

for the slot with +specialist, I'd swap it to either +Carapace/+Crit Chance/+Maniac

[winter magnet]

thoughts on melee weak spot damage?

[spice veldt]

ehhhhhhhhhh

not too great, even with the mk4's high finesse multiplier

i don't think there are any particularly notable BPs you're hitting with it

besides maybe requiring one less uncanny strike stack to one-shot scab shotgunners

since a +10% weakspot dmg perk translates into +6% damage on a weakspot hit (at 80% finesse)

[winter magnet]

that makes sense

thanks again :)

[spice veldt]

time to duel

[winter magnet]

Ive been running this until then, but I prefer the stabby moveset and finally had plasteel when i was on my psyker

[bold maple]

V is pretty good too tbh

[spice veldt]

the mk4 duelling sword being the only one that was properly buffed also plays a role

[wheat quartz]

siblings, I have used all my dockets on dueling swords, can I stop with this

[spice veldt]

too bad the other two duelling swords didn't get their correct values

[spice veldt]

sure; I personally wouldn't go for +flak cuz flak enemies are whatever currently; I'd be content with two-shotting scab ragers since you can always just stagger them with the special

Cleave Damage/Mobility/Penetration are dump stats currently so that's pretty nice

(Cleave Damage is bugged to not affect Flak armour damage modifiers)

[wheat quartz]

Huh didn't know that

[spice veldt]

is nice

so it only affects Unarmoured and Infested armour mods

which is pretty whatever

[wheat quartz]

So flak to unyielding or carapace?

[wise crest]

why does everyone like the dueling swords so much?

[spice veldt]

that's what i'd do

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

duelling swords also have good drip

they were decently popular before the skill tree even when they had pretty peepee poopoo stats

[wise crest]

god damn

[spice veldt]

but now that the MK4 has drip AND good stats

[untold crystal]

man, I'm just gonna quit missions if the lobby has any other psyker for now on

[fading patrol]

Powecrept by deimos pre patch 13
Then pulled uno reverse post patch 13

[wise crest]

why

[untold crystal]

especially if they're runnin crack rocks

[gaunt stone]

What difficulty you playing?

[untold crystal]

usually 4 or 5

I just wanna get my stacks and ha ha funny 'UNLIMITED POWER'

but the crack rock meth head psykers kill everything

[gaunt stone]

Play Auric 5s rocks are like a utility in that mode.

[untold crystal]

yea nah I'm good, I'm not a fan of CBT.

[steel flame]

I hope the emperor smites your unlimited harm to my fps soon

[gaunt stone]

This tbh.

[untold crystal]

You think you are the only one suffering from frames dropping? I hear all three fans kicking in and it's loud.

but if it kills my computer it'll be funny

[upbeat parcel]

zealots with their fire kill my frames harder

[gray coral]

Hello siblings!

[cunning yew]

I was playing with other psyker, infinite smite. I got downed meanwhile 2 other teammates were going for power cell objective and this other psyker was just using infinite smite while standing like 2 meters away from me when like 3rd wave of horde was just spawning and no enemy in sight and I got rescued by vet on last few seconds. We wiped nonetheless.. xd I think I hate infinite smite players from now on

[idle bay]

Some of them just hold the button and go afk or dring tea 🙂

[cunning yew]

This one had a weight on W key

xd

[idle bay]

I prefer to do more active Smiting combined with spreading soulfire. And if i have a bad position i just relocate using Force sword infinite dodges and soft-stunlock to relocate with any risk

[eager token]

what curios blessings should i be running on psyker

[idle bay]

X3 +3 Stamina Curios 🙂

[eager token]

wrong class typo lol

[idle bay]

Emprah protects! SO no need for Toughnes or Health Curios really

[spice veldt]

i'd recommend taking at least one hp as your main stat, and have toughness as your side perks

I'd say that's a good base to start with and then the rest is whatever

[eager token]

yeah ive got a 21% health rn and some 18% toughness ones I’ve been running

neat

[idle bay]

On my psyker i found it unthinkable to go out without at least one +3 stamina curios

[spice veldt]

i simply accepted my death whenever the chaos spawn aggroed onto me

though kinetic deflection is a pretty free pick nowadays

[eager token]

i have deflector 4 and try to run kinetic deflection so im kinda chill on stamina

[idle bay]

It's mostly easy dodgable i think. I mean chaos spawn

[spice veldt]

i try not to dodge it too much so that I don't kite it away from my team nor do I kite it into my team

[idle bay]

Though i always combine both dodging and blocking vs chaos spawns

[spice veldt]

I also don't have the timing on DS dodges that tight yet

force swords have corrupted my brain

[eager token]

the dodge is kinda insane

ngl

[idle bay]

For last year i though this penance is bugged. Until i just got it without going for it specifically.

[coarse sequoia]

does the trauma force staff do good damage to flak/carapace?

[spice veldt]

i got it fairly early on 😎

but I was using the obscurus back then 100% of the time

[spice veldt]

it's ok; it deals 80% damage or something to flak/carapace

it's the trauma staff so you're not using it for single-target damage anyways

[coarse sequoia]

is it's main purpose is cc?

or horde clear

[spice veldt]

both

[half turtle]

obscurus was super fun

[coarse sequoia]

gotcha

[spice veldt]

a bit of a generalist staff in that regard

[half turtle]

i played a ton of obscurus

[coarse sequoia]

do i still want warp flurry and nexus on it?

[spice veldt]

I personally don't like using it to hordeclear if I can since I dislike throwing enemies around, but that's just my preference

flurry works, and nexus isn't too great alone

you usually run Nexus to enable Blazing Spirit

[half turtle]

trauma also has quite good armor damage

[coarse sequoia]

what are its best blessings?

[olive ember]

congratulations

you are no longer "skill-issued"

[half turtle]

trauma basically chews up anything that's melee

it knocks entire ogryn patrols on their butts and then 3-shots the whole thing

you can wipe entire hordes with 3-4 pops total, you can deadstop/stagger dogs into your teammates and pop bursters safely at range

[harsh urchin]

decimator got nerfed D:

[half turtle]

you can literally win against any number of any melee enemy in the game with just trauma staff if you're ok at managing peril

[olive ember]

Rn?

[dawn wolf]

I like letting ogryn chop at the hordes while I drop trauma blast on him/slightly behind him

[lethal lagoon]

Literally every Ogryn hates that with a passion.

[harsh urchin]

yeah iirc you used to get 1 stack per enemy hit and testing in the meat grinder i'm only getting 1 stack per swing now 😢

[half turtle]

you can steal his kills if you put it slightly in front of him instead

[dawn wolf]

First I've heard of it, how come?

[half turtle]

i think some ogryn weapons can't hit floor mans if you're max height

[idle bay]

In case somewho seeks revenge on game logo in Steam. The picture for trasparentr overlay

[half turtle]

at least it was that way at launch

[lethal lagoon]

Any melee hates anyone killing things right next to them for the most part.

No one likes staring at their feet to look for knocked down enemies either

[half turtle]

i literally have played 0 ogryn so idk if that's still true

[dawn wolf]

lol, the hubris of wanting to be the tallest bites you later

[lethal lagoon]

I play Ogryn and Psyker pretty evenly.

[spice veldt]

explosion weapon users knocking enemies right below my illisi's swing 😔

[half turtle]

the worst thing about trauma is that sometimes it staggers guys behind you and then you try to backdodge and get stuck

[dawn wolf]

Back to spamming Assail I guess

[half turtle]

but i think in a heavy mixed horde it's still worth doing

[spice veldt]

now that's proper annoying and has gotten me killed

though that was from a vet nade

[lethal lagoon]

No one likes assail spam in their melee range either 😆

Just atk away from melee generally, unless there's no other enemies

[half turtle]

on the plus side you might never get into melee range to begin with

problem solved

[dawn wolf]

It sounds like people will be upset no matter what anyway

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, just think what you would want as a frontliner.

[spice veldt]

i'd just run ahead and leave melee players to do whatever

[lethal lagoon]

^

That works too

[spice veldt]

they can handle enemies, so I'll just go push the map or loot

unless it's like 10 crushers

[unique mist]

if I were to switch a blessing I'd just upgrade flurry to tier 4, but what perks should I change

[lethal lagoon]

I'd leave the blessing and do crit chance and unyielding, but I've never used Purge post patch.

[half turtle]

get those mats to push the teamwork score up

[unique mist]

unyielding?

[spice veldt]

i love grabbing mats while a fight is going on

[lethal lagoon]

+25% unyielding damage

[half turtle]

i've gotten dogged multiple times because of this

[lethal lagoon]

5% crit chance is probably needed either way if it still grants 2 stacks of flame.

[unique mist]

I know what it does

But why would I be using purgatus on a monstrosity?

[spice veldt]

tsk tsk tsk, amateur

[lethal lagoon]

It counts Og gunner too, and to put on stacks?

Why not put on stacks?

[olive ember]

Imagine looking at mats

I just stare blankly at my screen until either mission success or mission failure

Still play better than most players tho

[marsh tulip]

What perks am i looking for on voidstaff?

[olive ember]

Purge staff easily wants flak first

Unyielding is nice for bosses and ogryns I guess but flak helps with mauler packs, scab ragers, gunners if you use AB with purge out, etc etc

[marsh tulip]

[olive ember]

Shotgunners too actually

Uh @spice veldt is probably(?) more knowledgeable about voidstrike perks

[spice veldt]

i don't use vstrike at all

[olive ember]

I kinda just run wte cuz of how overtuned it is rn

And it works

Oh

Pygex then? But he’s not online

[lethal lagoon]

Can't go wrong with 5% crit, probably.

[olive ember]

Flak maniac is also rly safe

Honestly probably maniac unyielding actually or crit chance unyielding

[lethal lagoon]

Never do crit damage though, just in case.

Make it orange first lmao

[marsh tulip]

well duh

i just gotta do one more mission, just trying to figure out ahead of time before switching out one of the perks

[strong gulch]

Rager on the other side of a wall got me good. 😩

[lethal lagoon]

Tbf you can get them through walls too

[lethal lagoon]

Actually, that staff is pretty mid, you'll probably sacrifice it for the surge blessing eventually, so do whatever.

5% crit is an easy bet with surge, I guess replace the unarmored.

[marsh tulip]

gotcha

ty

[near gale]

I noticed that they made the surge staff seem a lot more useable, overall. It seems a bit less cc and more dps with how it works, imo. The faster time on the full spell's charge, the more damage it does to less targets... it feels way more fluid and useable overall to me, as more of a damage staff. :/

[clear heath]

I'm really liking it

shame voidstrike outclasses it so much, but that's more just voidstrike being op

[winter magnet]

I liked voidstrike before they made it op and now I feel like a fotm simp

same with the mark 4 dueling sword :(

[kind jay]

just use what makes you happy bro

[winter magnet]

they buff everything I love to the point of absurdity

[kind jay]

surge can pull numbers too

its ez

[winter magnet]

nice

I just did a mission where I had like 575k damage :)

[clear heath]

I like that i don't have to aim much

looking at the screen while playing is too much effort

[kind jay]

it comes in clutch pretty often

[spice veldt]

truuuuuuu

[half turtle]

man i hate assail why do people like assail

every time i'm like "hmm i should try assail, assail seems fun" but then it's fucking horrible and i hate it

[coarse sequoia]

you just use the assail on clusters of enemies

[dim parrot]

I think i might switch 2 infinite smite

[dim parrot]

its good if u dont overuse it, I mostly use it when I have 2 protect teammates, but mostly use sword and for big boss enemies staff

[full panther]

what version of the dueling sword do y'all prefer?

and what perk setup do you run on it?

[coarse sequoia]

you need the empowered scionics for assail to be super good

it's pretty mediocre without

it gives you a free shard every time you kill an elite and a small chance on regular enemies

[dim parrot]

I might switch 2 smite anyway I think

[coarse sequoia]

smite is better for cc

[orchid venture]

the milk man just got me a pretty damn good rashad, but what are the blessings I'm looking for now? is brutal momentum still good?

[dim parrot]

might stop the ,,oh no someone is using assail? better leave" debuff

[coarse sequoia]

yep

[formal raptor]

does sustained fire even work?

on the charged balls

[half turtle]

4

stab is op

it does like 50% more damage than the heavies of the other dueling swords

[half turtle]

yeah i was running assail wall purg and i felt like i just had no good options for far away snipers or bombers in the back

assail takes too long to throw out with rmb and it seems to take 2 to kill a sniper

[dim parrot]

yee, sometimes its 1 shot but at other times it isn't idk

[coarse sequoia]

you can literally hold right click and throw your assail shard across the map

and 1 tap a sniper

[unique mist]

yeah it does but it isn't a good option, it's just an average damage boost of 10% provided you fire 4 shots

which isn't much

and there are other blessings (SURGE) that do way more

like surge + nexus

or flurry

[formal raptor]

maybe i skip this one then

thanks

[orchid venture]

what blessings am I looking for with the Mk4 dueling saber? the stabby one

[keen pawn]

are either of these good on a force sword, looking to see which one I should extract

[torpid girder]

Is there a guide of what the best stats + blessings are to get on psyker weapons?

[near gale]

Geeze, we lost this... but I did this with assail and the surge staff, and I was using the surge staff for most of that ranged damage. :/

I had the deimos as my sword, backing me up x.x

[coarse sequoia]

are you running the empowered scionics talents

[blissful ore]

This is bricked, but just keep the weapon around in case either of these blessings buffed/reworked in the future

[keen pawn]

got it thanks

[blissful ore]

U want slaughterer and uncanny/executor/shred/deflector for your force sword mainly

[half turtle]

sometimes (often) it takes 2

no idea why

but also if there are 2 snipers i have to like, wait 3 seconds to throw the second one

[rose dagger]

Revolver assail psyker is so degenerate
It's kinda hilarious

[rose dagger]

Unstable power also good

Wouldn't take deflector if running shield

[light dust]

What exactly is finesse damage? Rather, how does it function?

[blissful ore]

True

[spice veldt]

+60% finesse damage is equivalent to +60% weakspot damage and +60% crit damage

[plucky flax]

Seems op.

[light dust]

Thanks for the answer!

[coarse sequoia]

that's really weird, i have been spamming damnation and it never takes me more than one

but also

running void staff fixes that problem entirely

probably the best pairing with assail

since it can deal with basically everything

[dim parrot]

until they nerf it into the ground lmao

[coarse sequoia]

are they nerfing void?

[dim parrot]

idk maybe?
a lot of people seem annoyed by it

[coarse sequoia]

i hope not lol

[dim parrot]

who knows what psyker will play like after the update

[kind jay]

everyone gonna go back to shredder AB

[coarse sequoia]

lmao

[dim parrot]

Imma just go back to cyberpunk

[still hearth]

Probably the same

[spice veldt]

shard only one-taps snipers with a headshot (and with a little extra damage required, though you're probably taking warp rider)

[coarse sequoia]

yep, with empowered scionics

i think assail is pretty shit without it

[kind jay]

if they fix DD tho that could open up some new builds

[spice veldt]

nah

assail is very good regardless of EP

https://streamable.com/ydfsds

2 snipers with one shard woo

[bold maple]

smite need a dmg buff vs horde

already cant kill elite and specials, assail is just doing both smite and brain burst job rn

[dim parrot]

isn't it stronger with the glitch?

[bold maple]

glitch get fixed eventually

then it's just dog

[dim parrot]

I might stay with assail then I guess xD

[cunning yew]

Don't speak of infinite smite glitch, the horrors I've seen, it's unbearable

[dim parrot]

is it?

[cunning yew]

yes

[dim parrot]

so they can't kill them and just hold them forever? xD

[cunning yew]

Till death do us part

[dim parrot]

bruh

yea imma stick with assail lmao

[summer prairie]

Odd DD behavior https://streamable.com/m6xrhb

[still hearth]

No

It's worse with glitch

[dim parrot]

damn

and then people leave when they just see u having assail equipped, u dont even have 2 be an assail abuser ;-;

[coarse sequoia]

yeah lol

[dim parrot]

like I rarely even use it

[still hearth]

Someone once said "fucking neckbeards" at the start of a game and left

We didn't even speak to them

[coarse sequoia]

were you an assail psyker

[still hearth]

Idk why they were mad

[runic stone]

is the infinite shields with 1 warp charge a glitch

[dim parrot]

why neckbeards lmao

[still hearth]

Maybe I can't remember

[still hearth]

Yes

[dim parrot]

are u also a neckbeard per chance? xD

[runic stone]

my parties are gonna struggle a lot more against gunner waves without it

[dim parrot]

like legit just using assail in emergencies or when I have 2 protect a battery carrier

[still hearth]

Physically? No. Mentally? Maybe.

[dim parrot]

understandable

[still hearth]

Well acshually

[runic stone]

i both want and don't want an assail nerf

it feels so good after having to use brain burst for a year

[dim parrot]

yee, like I dont want it 2 be weak, but at the same time I get that its annoying when u just wanna melee something and everything just dissappears infront of u, because assail was present

[runic stone]

veteran was basically that

and it got to stay silly for a long time

[dim parrot]

did everyone complain then?

[runic stone]

yes

especially psykers because we couldn't generate warp charges

[dim parrot]

how the turn tables

[runic stone]

then we were all reduced to purge meta

[dim parrot]

I just wanna trade my ability for dual power sword

[runic stone]

people only notice how strong psykers are over others because we have flashy effects

[cunning yew]

Flashy-sometimes lag inducing effects

[runic stone]

that's how you know it's working

[spice veldt]

actually true

[dim parrot]

never had the lag problems tbh

[spice veldt]

gunlugger ogryns hiding in the shadows

[runic stone]

like it's legitimately a thing

no one sees where the bullets come from really, and the others are just punching things (strongly)

[spice veldt]

and i don't see any good gun lugger ogryns on NA west

so i guess the ogryns on NA west just make extremely poor build decisions

[dim parrot]

I dont get mad when I try to melee kill something and the veteran has 2 kill that one enemy that I try to behead

nah actually I get mad sometimes

[cunning yew]

It's mildly infuriating when I try to brainburst some enemy and then the assail buddy just yeets through the head of the target

[dim parrot]

I feel you

[runic stone]

that's the case with any double psyker though

[spice veldt]

i'm glad that warp charges aren't tied to brainburst anymore

[dim parrot]

hence why I use assail only in emergencies

[spice veldt]

so that i don't need to gaf about killing enemies with a blue glow

[dim parrot]

if its just a horde imma whip my sword out

[vestal fulcrum]

People still kill enemies with glowing heads, though

[vivid merlin]

I do feel slightly robbed when I brain burst and don't get a warp charge

but then I just switched all my builds to take the middle keystone for brain burst

[cunning yew]

Just like a mosquito, the glare just attracts them twice as much

[dim parrot]

I usually ignore enemies that glow, even if its someone using smite

wich is like ok right?
or do the smiters need my help?🤔

[wet belfry]

Gotta feel bad for the ogryns

This variant of sparking you kill. This other variant you do not...

Also warp rider is 10% damage btw.

[dim parrot]

I dont judge the ogryn, he brings enough 2 the table

[wet belfry]

No damage bonus from peril.

[brazen warren]

soulblaze smite take out the whole room

run warp charges

[dim parrot]

meaning u dont need my help and I can ignore the smited enemies?

[brazen warren]

more or less yep

but I hit the whole room so

[dim parrot]

good 2 know

[dim parrot]

aight imma make a tea in the meantime I guess

[brazen warren]

game director gets mad, sends in 10-12 full packs of poxwalkers/groaners from multiple directions

eventually gives up

microwave noises

[dim parrot]

meanwhile my tea got to a drinkable state and I sit comfortably on my chair and watch the chaos unfold

[dim parrot]

might put a bubble around u just in case

[plucky flax]

Failed duo melee only maelstrom at end event. Trauma > voidtrike confirmed tho. Xd

[spice veldt]

10%-20%

it's old warp unleashed but up to 20% instead of 25%

[light knot]

Warp Nexus, Transfer Peril, Warp Flurry and Surge

[heady fog]

dog shit assail psykers wiping t5 maelstroms by killing every single melee poxburster will never not be unpleasant.

[scarlet timber]

GUYYYYYS

WHERE IS HE

WHERE IS THE PURGE STAFF GUY?

@olive ember you there??

PLEASE THELL ME

THIS IS PERFECT

[blissful ore]

Run away from pox burster bro

[vestal fulcrum]

It looks fairly perfect to me

Oh

Wrong reply, sorry about that

[vestal fulcrum]

Let’s try that again: this is good

[scarlet timber]

dude

nonthing is locked

nothing

i can change everything

[heady fog]

Yeah run off the map. But why? The poxburster will throw you out for you.

[vestal fulcrum]

until a patch rolls out that destroys Nexus and Flurry and you will end up with a half broken staff

Let’s not think about that, though

[blissful ore]

I mean like run away into your team and make someone else deal with it
Anytime people start killing poxbursters that are close to anyone this is what I do and it usually works out

They just start pushing them, now that it's their problem

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d rather a Purgatus nerd recommend you what to do with it. I’d go with Flak + Crit chance, but that’s just my intuition, more than anything

[heady fog]

I don't think you understand. They killed the poxbursters close to themselves and wiped.

3 in a row.

[blissful ore]

Oh u left that detail out

[heady fog]

i took my hand off the mouse after seeing it.

[scarlet timber]

i dont know

if oyu tried pursge

after patch btw

[blissful ore]

There's a lot of bad players in the queue not much you can do beside try and dodge obv new players with true level mod

[scarlet timber]

but most thign die before you get

full stacks

[heady fog]

"killing every single melee poxburster" sorta an important detail that i didn't leave out lol.

[scarlet timber]

including ragers

[heady fog]

yeah, the zealot on the team did have the mod and typed 30+3. i didn't think too much of it.

[vestal fulcrum]

Why does it matter that you get full stacks on anything other than an elite or special, though?

[blissful ore]

Based on what you said, I assumed you were the one dying from the explosions

[scarlet timber]

thats the point of crit build

[vestal fulcrum]

And you will be mostly wiping swarms with this staff, maybe sometimes also mixed-in bruisers and elites

[scarlet timber]

cuz crit gives two stakcs

[heady fog]

I was lol. Everyone was, that's the beauty of it.

[scarlet timber]

so i think now its better to go with

flak manaic

[vestal fulcrum]

It does, but so what? Like, you don’t need full stacks on everything to kill it (*bar the monsters, obviously). I don’t bother most of the time and stuff dies if I sneeze the funny blue flames at it

Again, do indeed seek advice from somebody that may know better, but it doesn’t matter greatly, since you can adjust the perks to any other purpose, if you do desire

[scarlet timber]

yeah

then whats the point of crit

if the reason in old patch

people went crit

for double stack?

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s very generalist, and you will be hitting different types of armour with this staff constantly

[scarlet timber]

but now things die to the normal secondary fire?

[scarlet timber]

why not just speed it up

by having maniac

[harsh urchin]

maniac is pretty pointless for purg

because you're not going to be killing mutants with it

[vestal fulcrum]

Not everything is Maniac, though. Maniac doesn’t increase your clear speed against common horde/bruiser armour types, nor most elites

[lofty storm]

Best blessings on MK4 duelling sword atm?

[blissful ore]

You still want crit because it ups your ability to clear without needing to fully charge

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh yeah, you definitely won’t be doing that

[vestal fulcrum]

Uncanny and then you can pick your poison - any other blessing more-or-less works

[lofty storm]

Thanks mate ^

[unique sand]

for psyker is dome shield or specialist stun shield better?

[harsh urchin]

personal pref

[lofty storm]

my current one has precognition and rampage

[blissful ore]

Dome better for carrying

[harsh urchin]

crit is wrong IMO, because with nexus you're essentially going from 25% crit to 30% crit

[unique sand]

hmmm fair. i like the specialist stun but there are so many times i wish i had the dome

[vestal fulcrum]

Rampage gives higher power increase than it states, although triggering it is tricky (but it allows some stupid stuff like one-shoting crushers with a proper setup ). Precog is absolutely fine.

[harsh urchin]

which is much more marginal than going from 5% to 10%

[scarlet timber]

then what flak unyieldign?

[harsh urchin]

I would recommend unyielding, since it gives a big boost against bosses, and flak, since that's a common enemy type that is a bit tanky

[scarlet timber]

cuz i really dont think i neeeed unarmored

or

infested

[vestal fulcrum]

You really don’t want to take that Crit, do you?

[scarlet timber]

tehy just die way too quick

[plucky flax]

All my homies run maniac damage.

Maniac = bad.

[scarlet timber]

i dont know if you even can

[plucky flax]

Muties, flamers, trappers.

[scarlet timber]

crit with secondary fire?

just gives

[harsh urchin]

you can, but it's as I said

[scarlet timber]

extra stacks i think?

[harsh urchin]

you get very marginal value going from 25% to 30%

compared to 5% to 10%

if you didnt have nexus

[plucky flax]

Well 25% = 1/4 crit. 30% is close to 1/3 per crit.

It's valuable and worth it for blaze trauma at least.

Idk what weapon you guys are talking about tho.

[scarlet timber]

purge

[vestal fulcrum]

This thing: #psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

Okay for purg you run flak + crit chance/unyielding/maniac your choice for 2nd perk.

Case closed tyvm.

[vestal fulcrum]

🙏

[scarlet timber]

thx

question is

@plucky flax my perks are both oepn

which one is the best

bascially is the quesiton

[plucky flax]

Personally I run flak unyielding because my purg build have bb and bb kinda ass against monster now. Purga is not great against monster but the 25% damage kinda help.

Otherwise if there's an ogryn in the team let him deal with the monster and you clear horde.

[scarlet timber]

TBF

i run dueling sword

and skyrier gaze

so monsters arent a isssue 🙂

i found the best purge though

[plucky flax]

I have all varieties of purga anyway it's all about the mood.

[scarlet timber]

@plucky flax so this is the build then?

[plucky flax]

Sure man.

[random obsidian]

So guys whats a good bottom of the tree build? i have been spamming the middle part alot but i've been think of changing it from just spamming empowered psionics the entire time, so what is the right and left good for?

[fossil lagoon]

Warp siphon is just better then every other option for psyker

[random obsidian]

hmmm, not sure if your using smite tho because you can get infinite cast time with empower

but with Asail it sounds good

[fossil lagoon]

Yes that bug is literally the only reason to use empowered psyonics

[random obsidian]

its not a bug, its a feature

[spice veldt]

the other reason to use EP is because it's a cheaper investment of points

[random obsidian]

true, thats why i've been spamming it

[spice veldt]

warp siphon being a 9-point investment (if going into 6 WC), and I consider puppet master and solidity to be very meh picks

whereas Kinetic Deflection and True Aim are more significant

I'd rather take EP + right branch than go into warp siphon if using assail

[random obsidian]

yeah, Assail is a very common pick for everyone playing psyker, i'm also thinking of good smite builds but i always think EP is best for smite

Also i have noticed most players Don't use the right ability, just shield and maybe the push

[scarlet timber]

Psyker is like the least necessary class in this game man

[plucky flax]

Arco big brain man.

[scarlet timber]

Literally got 1 purpose fill the role that's missing

[royal granite]

going 6 points into the toilet

[spice veldt]

idk i felt pretty necessary on melee maelstrom

[scarlet timber]

You need horde clear? Go purge you need elite killing ? Go void or surge ? You want to kill boss Go void you want to destroy bunch of elite packs and have horde clear ? Go trauma

[royal granite]

it's a joke about WC, nothing else

[spice veldt]

ohhhhhhh

i thought it was about disrupt destiny lol

[royal granite]

nah i've never tried it

[spice veldt]

i love disrupt destiny on melee maelstrom

and nowhere else

[royal granite]

i hear so many mixed things about it and it can't be tested in the psykhanium

[spice veldt]

mauler one-shots are very funny

[scarlet timber]

I never take disturb destiny cuz my team keeps killing my target

[plucky flax]

I love vet ammo aura in melee modifier. Too bad vets are a rare breed now.

All the memers become assail voidstrike psykers.

[royal granite]

i still have never seen the melee modifier

[spice veldt]

disrupt destiny meme for 1.1k dmg assail shards

[plucky flax]

The new melee modifier is really hard.

[random obsidian]

very common build, i do like EP Smite tho sometimes

[plucky flax]

Crushers and bulwarks train.

[spice veldt]

it broke me and made me take a wound into it

[plucky flax]

You're weak so that's okay.

[spice veldt]

because I'm getting one-shot by everything

[spice veldt]

wha

[plucky flax]

I can tank 1 crusher/mauler overhead.

[spice veldt]

i think i kept getting dunked on without full toughness

so crushers just annihilated my psyker body

i'm not tough enough

[scarlet timber]

Well I see shout vets more than ranged vets now

[royal granite]

simply breathe heavily to recover all your toughness instantly

[plucky flax]

Ogryn and psyker feel very nice in melee modifier. But ogryn need vet to play rumbler.

[scarlet timber]

And infiltrate vets are endangered species

[random obsidian]

lol

[royal granite]

i don't understand why, two charges of infiltrate is pretty good, especially with the revive speed

[spice veldt]

you too can adopt a vet

[scarlet timber]

I think buffs to infiltrate are kind of bad I don't know

[royal granite]

i don't think vet needs to do big damage out of stealth, just being able to reposition out of a firing galery to flank a big pile of gunners is really good on its own

(as long as the vet can aim)

hey does anyone know how good the aim assist is on console?

[random obsidian]

Its Absolutely So incredibly Funny That Vets use to be the most played class and now they are so rare that you barely see one now 🤣

[scarlet timber]

Ehm

You know right side of vet tree is melee based btw

So what are vets famous for ?

[royal granite]

you don't have to go hard right to grab infiltrate

[scarlet timber]

Not being able to melee to save their lives

[golden tartan]

Ammo regen

[scarlet timber]

[golden tartan]

:3

[scarlet timber]

That too but they can't

Melee for shit

[golden tartan]

🦐 issue

[royal granite]

you can just say you condemn hitlers policies but you think the tiger tank looked really cool

[plucky flax]

[royal granite]

just a quick dip to the right

[scarlet timber]

[royal granite]

no biggie

[spice veldt]

take a HAAAAAAAAAAAARD right

[golden tartan]

Im sorry but the tiger is a box on a box

Its many things but cool looking aint one

[scarlet timber]

Habibi

[royal granite]

yeah i personally think german tanks looked like shit but

[scarlet timber]

Where is this going ?

[royal granite]

well ok the maus is funny because of how fucking ridiculous it looked but that's about it

[scarlet timber]

Habibi calm down habibi

[royal granite]

i have no idea what that means

[golden tartan]

Maam we are talking about tanks not weener compensators

[random obsidian]

no need to dunk on vet melee too hard... after all atleast they are better at melee than Tau 😁

[royal granite]

that's true

[scarlet timber]

Uneducated American

[royal granite]

i'm norwegian

[strong blaze]

and the Maus in german means mouse, did some scientists look at the thing and go "lets design the heaviest tank in history and name it the mouse"

[scarlet timber]

Same shit

[royal granite]

i'm not sure that's right

[scarlet timber]

How do you not know what habibi means

[royal granite]

ikr

[scarlet timber]

Means my dear friend

[royal granite]

i live in the mountains

[scarlet timber]

So do I

I'm iranian

[royal granite]

HUH?

[scarlet timber]

Yeah

[royal granite]

no not that sorry

[random obsidian]

?????

[scarlet timber]

Have ypu not seen iran?

[royal granite]

my message got auto moderated for something and i gotta talk to the mods about that i think

[golden tartan]

Wait you run?

[scarlet timber]

Yeah see

[royal granite]

nothing bad to be clear, i used the name for a mental illness that i have and apparently that's unacceptable

[scarlet timber]

Autism ?

[plucky flax]

The israeli tank looks nice.

Like a space shape mane.

[steel egret]

Psyker

[scarlet timber]

Wait you from Israel ?

[royal granite]

mountains my beloved

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[random obsidian]

ummm guys..... you know this is game chat for psyker right?

[plucky flax]

I am brexit land.

[scarlet timber]

Technically me too

I haven't been to Iran in years

[royal granite]

we'll get back to psyker shortly

[blazing trout]

I haven’t been to Israel, but my tax dollars have

[scarlet timber]

Why don't you psyk deez nutz in your mouth

[royal granite]

first, observe this drip

[scarlet timber]

Mines better

[random obsidian]

damn he is pissing on you build, you gonna take that?

[royal granite]

how about now

[scarlet timber]

Much better

Now that looks like girl from the mountains

[main orchid]

where did you get head piece

[royal granite]

old cash store

[main orchid]

dang

[royal granite]

they cycle things out

they claim it's to keep it less cluttered, but we all know it's FOMO

[main orchid]

right

just add search bar and problem solved

[royal granite]

it's whatever, if you want to enjoy a modern videogame you have to put up with some horsepiss like that

[main orchid]

depends

warframe gort everything since day 1

[royal granite]

if i could wear flanel in darktide i would laugh a lot and never wear anything else

[main orchid]

almost everything*

[royal granite]

warframe's got fomo, they vault relics

listen i am a huge warframe mark, i own excal prime

[main orchid]

im talking cosmetics

[royal granite]

but i know bullshit when i see it

ah fair

they are at least better about that

[main orchid]

escpecially with the cosmetics locked behind penances

I want the metal face plate thing so bad

[royal granite]

i kinda like the penance cosmetics

oh you mean this?

[main orchid]

yuhhhhh

but the one without the side things

[royal granite]

that one's not too hard to get

actually all the non-redacted penance cosmetics are pretty easy

[main orchid]

yea its justa a grind

[royal granite]

you just have to run the right build for long enough and it just happens

[main orchid]

you playing rn?

[royal granite]

not right this second, i've just got my screenshot history open

i've got my build in there too if you want that

[main orchid]

can I see you penance build

[main orchid]

tyyyyyy

[royal granite]

run it with purgatus

[main orchid]

why?

oh add clear

[royal granite]

i mean, i run it with purgatus

you can do whatever you want, but purgatus benefits from the soulflame stuff

[main orchid]

oh really

hmm

yea ill look into it

im a voidstrike fiend so it'll take a minute for me to adjust

[royal granite]

it'll work fine with voidstrike, i just chose not to use it because i find it a little too strong right now

[main orchid]

🤨

wym

[royal granite]

it obliterates everything

no judgement if you want to use it

[spice veldt]

ass ail https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[royal granite]

damn

[spice veldt]

very bad blitz for melee maelstrom 😔

[ornate hamlet]

Does the HP of enemies increase further beyond Damnation or only the amount of enemies increases after that?

[royal granite]

pretty sure auric and maelstrom just pile up round modifiers

which is good, making enemies much more tankier would have made the game less fun real quick

[ornate hamlet]

It would, hence I ask. Because I find the tankiness at Heresy just fine to keep it enjoyable and I am scared that nothing I have will kill anymore in Damnation. 😄 (Haven't played it yet)

I just want more enemies. Way more. 🙂

[royal granite]

i recommend just taking the plunge, damnation is fun once you get used to it

[ornate hamlet]

Can Assail still kill things there? I already need 4 or 5 charges just to kill a shotgunner.

[royal granite]

yeah it can

[ornate hamlet]

And how did @spice veldt deal so much damage with Assail? O.o Mine deals 475 at head shots with 6 Warp charges.

[royal granite]

keep in mind it's a team based game, so if you bring a bunch of enemies down to 30% health, that's still good for the rest of your team

[spice veldt]

that's disrupt destiny + uncanny strike at work

[near wyvern]

This is correct, Damnation is the current last tier for stats, the rest are just additional spawns, modifiers etc.

[spice veldt]

that was a critical weakspot hit with DD stacks up which consequently dealt 1.7k damage

[royal granite]

also if you throw out an assail dart and switch weapons before it hits, the dart will benefit from the blessings and perks of the weapon

[ornate hamlet]

My role so far has been to deal with all those ranged units while my Zealot husband does most other things. I still want to be able to do that. 🙂

[spice veldt]

because something people don't realize about Assail is that it has pretty decent weakspot/crit multipliers

[near wyvern]

Most importantly, uncanny strike was on since you swapped before hit

[royal granite]

assail will clean up groups of ranged units just fine, though it'll feel a bit wasteful throwing darts at a single unit

[ornate hamlet]

So would you say the Warp charge tree is not the way to go? It seems very comfortable and easy damage amps.

[spice veldt]

i sharpened my assail shards with my duelling sword

[near wyvern]

Assail + creeping flames is a funny one

[slate sun]

demyt ... I just spent 4k plasteel looking for duel sword blessings, only to learn that there are no interesting blessings to get

uncanny + shred is the best right ?

[near wyvern]

Uncanny is meta currently and shred stacks nicely with the new talents yes

[royal granite]

warp charges are a little mediocre right now, empowered psionics is better for it, and according to arcotash, disrupt destiny becomes very good but only in auric maelstrom

[spice veldt]

disrupt destiny is still very sketch

[near wyvern]

But DD is so inconsistent

[ornate hamlet]

How does uncanny strikes work? I do not understand what rending damage is meant to be.

[spice veldt]

I would only ever run it in melee maelstrom

[slate sun]

thx

[spice veldt]

because it enables a very funny one-shot on maulers

[indigo crest]

I think I have an idea on why it stops marking sometimes

Seems it marks scab stalkers and they don't show highlights

[royal granite]

iirc, each point of rending is 4% additional damage against armour until your weapon deals as much damage as it would against an unarmoured target, then rending becomes 1% additional damage per point

if you stack a lot of rending very fast, you can do insane damage

[spice veldt]

+Rending% contributes an additive effect to your armour damage modifiers.

If your attack deals 20% damage to Carapace, then +50% rending means that your attack now deals 70% damage to carapace.

If your attack deals 100% or more damage to an armour type, then every 1% of rending contributes to your armour damage modifiers at a reduced effectiveness of 0.25x. So, if your attack deals 100% and you had +100% rending, you would deal 125% damage instead.

[ornate hamlet]

I tested empowered psionics and find it disappointing. The damage of the empowered hit is exactly the same as that of 6 warp charges.

It procs too inconsistently to have any impact on my gameplay so far. Considering it only procs on Elite kills, realistically.

[spice veldt]

EP also doubles the target limit of the shard

[royal granite]

yes but an empowered assail shard hits 3 additional times and doesn't cost peril

[vivid merlin]

does soulburn kills count as warp damage kills yet

for soulstealer

[spice veldt]

always has

it benefits from +warp damage and counts as a warp attack for soulstealer

[obtuse walrus]

[spice veldt]

and has done so even before the skill tree update

[royal granite]

wait really? people here have been saying only attacks that cause peril build up count as warp attacks

i need to change some builds

[obtuse walrus]

They are stinky

[spice veldt]

that's a rule of thumb that works well

[near wyvern]

So basically, your weapons deal base damage which then gets multiplied by an armour modifier value. When the enemy has high armour, your damage is rather low.

Rending increases the armour modifier additively up to 1.0x, so if your attack against a carapace enemy has an armour modifier of 50% or 0.5 so to speak, with +50% rending you deal your weapons base damage against the carapace target (often but not always the same as unarmoured damage).

The situation changes once you achieve 1.0 damage modifier. After that, every 4% of rending grants you a 1% damage bonus. However, this is MULTIPLICATIVE with all other buffs in the game and has a hard cap at 1.25x damage.

[spice veldt]

but soulblaze is a bit of a weird "maybe it works maybe it doesn't" that's not particularly intuitive

[ornate hamlet]

Oh this is nice. 😮 Though aren't warp charges not better all around, since they buff all my damage by 24% and not only shards? I doubt I can play with Assail only in higher levels.

Even in Heresy I can't.

[spice veldt]

but it is pretty funny to realize that soulblaze is able to proc soulstealer

[vivid merlin]

thanks arcotash

[spice veldt]

toughness regen on crack cocaine

not that the extra toughness is going anywhere useful

[vivid merlin]

not sure if I'm remembering correctly, crit still applies 2x stacks of soulblaze right

on a purgatus

[spice veldt]

but hey, live your life and run into ranged patrols with purg + soulstealer

[near wyvern]

Empowered also increases your critical and weakspot multipliers, doubles the targets the shard can hit and provided a free cast.

[obtuse walrus]

Psyker infinite toughness strat, shadow wizard causes panic in the lower sanctum

[old flame]

Im debating using the las pistol over the revolver but the performance against crushers suck

[royal granite]

simply crit harder

[old flame]

Maybe if I go brain burst instead of assail

That to

[royal granite]

brain burst against crushers will not make you happy

[obtuse walrus]

Brain Burst, my beloved

[near wyvern]

Refer to Atheneum when in doubt. Don't trust people who don't test stuff to back up their claims.

[old flame]

I don’t care what people say DD is good it just need some tweaks

[random obsidian]

Does anyone use Brain Burst anymore?

[obtuse walrus]

Me

[royal granite]

i did a lot of brain bursting for my penance build

[near wyvern]

On purgatus, yes

[royal granite]

i hated it at first, but once i got comfortable with never being on top of the scoreboard again i got kinda comfortable with it

[old flame]

Does brain burst work better with warp battery or empowered physics?

[obtuse walrus]

I enjoy rapid brain bursts against monsters and heavily armoured bitches,

[royal granite]

unlike that sentence

[obtuse walrus]

I prefer the middle one

[near wyvern]

Vraks 3 is the best gun currently for Psykers, change my mind

[royal granite]

brain burst is a lot better with empowered psionics i'll say that, using it with warp charges is pain

[obtuse walrus]

Since I'm always at 3 uses of empowered psyonics

If it was the old warp battery

[near wyvern]

Only if the DPS was good

[old flame]

Revolver makes elites go by by

Brain burst use to be able to 2 shot crushers with warp battery

[plucky flax]

Meme big cleave sword Xd

[obtuse walrus]

Where you gained warp batteries on any brain burst kill

[old flame]

24% flat out extra damage

[near wyvern]

https://streamable.com/fdzm9b

[spice veldt]

is that perfect strike

[obtuse walrus]

But now it's restricted to elite kills

[plucky flax]

Yeah perfect strike is better than deathblow for memes.

[spice veldt]

deranged

[plucky flax]

Deathblow will stop cleaving through all armour.

[near wyvern]

And @obtuse walrus that gun deals 4k DPS against reapers, the rest don't have enough HP to last even for that one second.

[obtuse walrus]

OK?

[old flame]

That’s impressive but what about crusher patrols?

[obtuse walrus]

I don't like using guns, I just wanna be a space wizard

[dim parrot]

relatable

fuck ammunition

[obtuse walrus]

I still spam need ammunition

[dim parrot]

xD
4 me its just because the thank u emote is right next to it

[near wyvern]

My bad pinged wrong sibling

[obtuse walrus]

For the emperor, I'm sure

[ornate hamlet]

try voidstrike and assail after spending ages on melee and revolver
blow up

[obtuse walrus]

But uh yeah. I spam da void staff. Kill da hordes, eat the elites for breakfast and let the zealots and vets deal with the monstrosity since they usually have better dps

[dim parrot]

It do be like that yes

[obtuse walrus]

It's a team game after all

[dim parrot]

void staff be very cool

[viscid matrix]

void staff be very overtuned

[dim parrot]

still very cool

[obtuse walrus]

My melee is only used when I need to block the 7 gunners that decided to focus me

[near wyvern]

Deflector

[obtuse walrus]

Aka, very rarely do I pull my melee out

Because I hate melee weapons

[dim parrot]

:(

[obtuse walrus]

My melee is close range voidstaff

[dim parrot]

melee is one of my favorite things in this game what do u mean xD

[spice veldt]

😔 never experienced the beauty that is uncanny strike

[obtuse walrus]

I've only played psyker since beta, I only care about space wizard

[dim parrot]

lmao a true caster

[plucky flax]

Psyker mains rise up.

Tbf it's like 50/50 between psyker and zealot for me. I play ogryn sometimes and since patch very rarely touch vet.

[obtuse walrus]

Only used the starting revolver, barely used the melee. Swapped to trauma staff and went from there

[dim parrot]

power sword melee is so fun imo

[obtuse walrus]

Wait, revolver was beta. Was it autogun? Idk

[dim parrot]

shit idk

[obtuse walrus]

Doesn't matter, point still stands

I'm shadow wizard money incarnate, I need more penance tasks

I need more cosmetics to unlock

[ornate hamlet]

how does one...get better at psyker?

[dim parrot]

cast so much that your head explodes

[old flame]

I noticed gunners are more common than before this patch

And they’re annoying to, you get stunned and can’t move the moment they shoot you

[spice veldt]

fyi sprinting will increase the amount of stagger you take, in case you're doing that whenever gunners are volleying you

so instead of ranged attacks dealing no stagger, they'll deal light stagger when you're sprinting, and melee attacks deal even heavier stagger

[obtuse walrus]

Pop their heads off

[royal granite]

dodge slide to get out of gunfire and into cover

if you can't make it to cover

die i guess

or kill fast

(bullets too slow)

[obtuse walrus]

You play, play and play some more. Soon the world becomes your canvas and every elite sound becomes engrained into your psyche. You kill elites before teammates realise they're being attacked and avoid incoming damage like Neo. Your toughness rarely goes down as it constantly refills based on peril quelling and warp kills

Hordes perish

[dim parrot]

psyker on crack

so basically just psyker

[obtuse walrus]

I'm partially deaf, so I use my ears like a surface radar to find the direction elites come from

Since I can only reliable hear through one

[slate sun]

can you advise which one's better?

[obtuse walrus]

By uh

Spinning

[dim parrot]

imma be your other ear sibling!

[ornate hamlet]

I weirdly found all of this helpful...thanks

[royal granite]

btw don't underestimate dodge sliding

[west smelt]

Fingers get clampy and sore?

[royal granite]

it's incredibly useful

[slate sun]

It seems mobility is quite relevant on duel swords

is it more important than the rest though?

[west smelt]

It's helps gives it the long dodge distance

[obtuse walrus]

Holding right click and sending hordes to the shadow realm is funnier and easier

[west smelt]

Also, worth to invest in as a voidstaff user? Primarily a gunsyker though

[spice veldt]

not particularly

I'd say that you can kind of ignore mobility since even a peepee poopoo mobility duelling sword will be better than quite a few melee weapons

of course, it is preferable to have it high

on the other hand, I'd rather dump Cleave Damage on the mk4 duelling sword

[ornate hamlet]

I've only got the pistol and the sword

[spice veldt]

because it currently doesn't scale armour mods against flak

[dim parrot]

dear siblings, does uncanny strike make sense on force swords or nah?

[spice veldt]

so Cleave Damage only scales unarmoured/infested armour mods for now

[obtuse walrus]

You don't really need to be mobile anyways. The targets you will probably use that sword against aren't going to be mobile either

[still hearth]

Burn needs to be 76%

Well

Doesn't have to

But that's the max burn stacks

So might as well

I imagine it would still work fine

It's really just boss damage that needs 16 stacks anyway

[obtuse walrus]

Like with most staves, quell speed is the dump stat since quelling is already super quick

You want the other four stats super high

[still hearth]

I think you actually lose out on very little DPS for a lower burn

If you can only apply 15 stacks its 118.95 per tick

Versus 16 stacks at 131.05 per tick

[obtuse walrus]

[still hearth]

Is Purgatus capped at 15 or 16 actually

I gotta test a purgatus with low burn sometime

Either way its a loss of like.. 15 DPS maybe? But only for max stacks which is only relevant on bosses

And if you needed that 15 DPS extra

Idk man

That's pretty rough

[plucky flax]

15 stack is cap

16 is the zealot flamer I think.

[still hearth]

Ye probably

So if you can still get 14 stacks

[plucky flax]

Bleed is also 16 stacks.

[still hearth]

With that burn

Its probably fine

Well the actual cap is 31

But some have hidden caps

I think Bleed also goes to 31?

Or is it global 16

Idk

[plucky flax]

Depend on condition.

But normally from weapon talents and ogryn bleed talent it's 16.

[still hearth]

At least you can't go beyond 16 bleed on anything so I guess it doesn't matter if its global or not

But both burn and soulblaze have a global cap of 31

[obtuse walrus]

[plucky flax]

You can cheat while using purgatus by using creeping flame to add 6 more stacks and just keep burning the monster.

[still hearth]

But only two things can get there afaik

[plucky flax]

It'll keep the 21 stacks.

[still hearth]

Which is creeping flames stacking and Ogryn lugger

[plucky flax]

The combustion also make it to 31 stacks.

[still hearth]

Oh yeah

Theoretically possible

[spice veldt]

kindly urge specialists to go near bosses

[lofty temple]

What's Scrier's Gaze good for?

[still hearth]

Uhh

Getting toughness back with peril

[obtuse walrus]

Being a god

[still hearth]

While you don't use warp weapons

[lofty temple]

10% damage and 20% crit chance ain't a lot man...

[obtuse walrus]

It stacks alot based on kills during it

[lofty temple]

Only if I get precognition

[obtuse walrus]

Which yeah, best for non warp based psyker builds

[lofty temple]

What weapon am I even supposed to use with it

[obtuse walrus]

Anything but staves and force sword

Which at that point... Are you truly playing psyker

Or are you a vet on crack

[lofty temple]

I've tried taking advantage of that 10% extra damage with Brain Burst, then I realised I could just take Kinetic Presence instead since they're mutually exclusive...

[west smelt]

Gunsyker

Also psudeo-zealot

[vivid merlin]

is there a chart for soulblaze damage per tick per stack level

the one in the pins says "NOT UPDATED"

[prisma wedge]

what should i do with this? I mean blessings or stat wise.. Or is it trash because of low dmg roll

[whole oxide]

you don't need damage on purgatus

[vivid merlin]

wish they'd just let me summon a monster in psykhanium

[prisma wedge]

Okay .. Thanks for your answer . Do you have any suggestions for what blessing/stat I should go for in refine

[spice veldt]

through the power of mods, you can

[whole oxide]

well, for maximum DPS, swap focused channelling to warp flurry, but if you want to keep focused, that's obviously your preference

then, keep maniac, swap groaner to flak

or maybe unyielding if you prefer purging bosses

[prisma wedge]

Thank you for the sugestions and your time. much apreciated

[royal granite]

i'm starting to think it might be time to just close the game and wait for patches

i don't like running bugs or overtuned meta stuff so i feel like my options are really limited right now

[umbral jetty]

play vet then

[royal granite]

zealot if anything

but nah

[urban echo]

What does the illisi special do?

[royal granite]

it's like a power sword, you get one swing with way more damage and cleave

as opposed to the other force swords which work like chainswords

[urban echo]

Oh right so that’s good?

[royal granite]

it is good

[urban echo]

Been using voidstrike and illisi with assail and warp charges just shred everything even with a poor build it’s scary

[royal granite]

yeah

[urban echo]

Almost did a no health damage run til an unannounced poxburster decided to run my fade

[kind glade]

Need to get bloodletter 4

[urban echo]

It’s weird how tanky and how high dps pskyer can get usually I’ll only die to poxbursters or if I overstretch too much

[royal granite]

what difficulties are you playing on?

[urban echo]

Damnation usually

[fresh reef]

The +15 toughness nodes add to base toughness right?

[spice veldt]

ye

60 base toughness, and you add 15 to that with each node

there are 5 of them, so you can attain 135 base toughness

[royal granite]

it's 15, not 15% though, so does it matter?

[urban echo]

Yep plus my soulstealer and curios aswell as other ones just help so much

[royal granite]

oh you mean for other % effects

[whole oxide]

15 is better than 15% when you're under 100

[urban echo]

Ye just really good survivability and damage on psyker

[fresh reef]

Been thinking of trying a build with taking every toughness node and toughness curios, for the meme

[urban echo]

Tried the other classes but my beloved calls to me

[royal granite]

yep it's a bit strong right now

[fresh reef]

(ie, no keystones)

[royal granite]

smocial i recommend going up to auric with your build, it's fun

[urban echo]

I want to im only level 26 though

[royal granite]

oh lol

fucking hell lmao

[urban echo]

But it should work well in auric if im doing good in tier 5 maelstrom it should be good enough for auric

I hope

[royal granite]

sorry that's just very funny to me

I AINT JUDGING YOU

no shame running a strong build, it's just my own taste

[granite dust]

it's superb

[royal granite]

oh yeah damage isn't a big deal on purge

[urban echo]

Ye strong builds just make it easier when I get to 30 I’ll probably make more fun builds like all toughness or a glass cannon build

[royal granite]

all your damage comes from burn

[granite dust]

@prisma wedge - just change +10% on +5% critic

[umbral jetty]

groaners to unyielding or flak

[urban echo]

I wanna use brain rupture but just seems a bit boring and less useful overall

[umbral jetty]

5% crit is worth less than 25% damage

[royal granite]

yep

brain rupture with enhanced psionics isn't bad since you can pre charge it for no peril cost

[fresh reef]

BB is still insanely good, though dubiously useful when you already have Void for burst damage

[royal granite]

but it's overshadowed by everything else

[west smelt]

Left in the dirt kinda thing?

[royal granite]

kinda yeah

i mean it was shoddy before the skill tree patch

[spice veldt]

or if running duelling swords 😔

[royal granite]

EP makes it kinda okay

[spice veldt]

nice against bulwarks, but I also run trauma 100% of the time

[whole oxide]

what BB can do that nothing else can do is snipe targets that are only visibile for a fraction of a second or through really tiny openings

[fresh reef]

Absolutely untrue, imo. Its niche is still there, and it's strong one

[granite dust]

but it works with +20% crit from Nexus

[kind glade]

Not when assail has the same aim mechanic as BB

[fresh reef]

"You can't run, Trapper! You have to die!"

[royal granite]

things that are only visible for a fraction of a second generally aren't big threats

[whole oxide]

absolutely not

[fresh reef]

lul

[west smelt]

This is my Mk 4

[fresh reef]

that's certainly a take lmao

[umbral jetty]

crit applies burn faster.. but 25% damage increases the damage of the burn

[whole oxide]

you aren't going to assail through a fence something on the other side of arena that was only visibile for 0.001 seconds