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Cause if you have to fully pull it out then yeah, probably not as good if I'm focused on just having my staff out
Yeah it's equip
I think the benefit of using gaze with BR would be that BR is a weakspot kill so it can help stack the bonuses faster with the finesse perk. The finesse modifier should affect BR damage because it’s weakspot damage. So with the EP bonus I imagine you could two tap a crusher in damnation with gaze up. I’ll have to try this later. Sounds like it might be decent if I want to pew pew.
Oh yeah, forgot about perilous at the top. I think wildfire probably isn't doing much of the spreading, nor is it probably needed
Ep would be helpful to not insantly hit 100% peril
As well
@summer prairie I think your suggestions are going to be good if voidstrike gets nerfed, as it stands even on damnation I don't find myself having to block often / getting a crit after 5 weakspot hits just seems unnecessary with how much damage the staff does right now, so I just took some more general defensive / quell nodes.
I figure you can maybe proc Kinetic Flayer on bosses / crushers / reapers every so often, but I'm not sure where I would put that one point, maybe in Unlucky For Some if you wanted to support the team a bit more.
Or I need to get good at pulling out my sword and blocking more to make kinetic deflection more valuable 
True aim is useful if you want to forgo warp nexus for warp flurry.
I find charge time is my main nemesis when using the voidstrike.
It’s pretty talent point expensive though.
I feel like I could lose the points in shriek too and just almost never use it unless I'm about to explode, keep all of my warp charges
might be some free points there
use the warp siphon keystone with peril reduction, if you stack peril reduction you can get up to 51% (6% *6 + 5% * 3) , makes a huge difference with surge staves, although i think i usually only roll with about 29-41% peril gen reduction and still notice a huge difference
~~Yeah if I drop the venting shriek points I can also grab true aim, ~~though I think warp nexus is probably the ideal choice for voidstrike, but probably depends on how you're using it
Just kidding forgot I didn't take Warp Rider yet 
Will try. I’ve been meaning to slap a surge staff on my Purgatus build and test it out. I’ve been using venting shriek for horde clear and it’s been working so well I feel like I don’t even need a purge staff sometimes. Always sad to see all those charges go though.
Never played with sabres. What do I do with it? As in, what perks/blessings should I put?
How do I quell peril IRL
i use surge with the +1 smite node and charges. i can keep it out 90% of the time. for hordes i smite up to 100, vent, and go afk
Ice bath 
Yeah I'm meeting with my psych finally today
Sorry for being off topic but I thought it was funny joke
All Psyker players should have psychs
It's in the name
Anyone?
slash with sword 🙂
What does Psykinetics wrath do?
Didn't think of the finese adding up, might mean instead of grabbing a single target gun I can try a braced autogun or smthn
You can swap either riposte or shred for uncanny (I would do replace riposte) and then swap out specialist to maniac
Don't have uncanny, can swap to rampage. Better this than riposte, yeah?
Finesse is low though. That will still bring a fine sword, but you want finesse to be high
You can swap to rampage until you get uncanny
don't care really, never was after perfect rolls
Unfortunately Psykers don’t have access to braced autoguns. But we have the shredder auto pistol, infantry autoguns or recon lasguns.
based
Autogun it is
lags?
Infantry autoguns
im sorry but calling them Iags is silly
Nomenclature cant hurt you
You know I thought they meant lag as in las gun
agripinaa iag is fantastic as long as you don't full auto spray everything, single shots are powerful enough if you can consistently land headshots
but the option to full auto in a bad situation is there if you need it
I found it to be hurting after enemy health buffs. I can’t 1 tap enemy shooters anymore with my previous perk loadout.
I think my agripinaa has 79 damage and a 10% weakspot perk.
well i'm not an expert, i use it on vet not psyker
Agripinna iag is one of the few guns i havent used much
I like columnus iag but its not great by any means
Pre patch vet made it work well that was about it tho
Yeah ammo kills it
Esp since columnus has fast fire rate but lower damage with massive recoil
agripinaa didn't give me any trouble
You are pro. I find all infantry autogun to have large recoil too. It just sucks to shoot more than 3 or 4 rounds.
Is this worth it as a dueling sword or is the mobility just too awful?
I wouldn't use it personally. At least 50% for the 5 dodges.
i never full auto unless something is literally staring up my nostrils
Also mobility stat is very good for duelling sword for the speeeeed
The Obscurus looks pretty good, is it alright as a Force Sword or should I just wait for a Deimos? Seems like that one is recommended more often
Yeah DS one of the few weapons i care about mobility on
did you know iags actually have more recoil if you're crouching?
Deimos and Illisi are both good but Obscurus got power crept the heck out since launch and has a mid moveset
Deimos and illisi outshine obscures.
idk if it's a bug or they accidentally did a realism
Illisi more horde clear, deimos more single target.
Ah okay, unlucky. This obscurus has decent stats otherwise 
Keep it
You can use it for memes. No one can stop you. 
I'm too poor to be buying stuff for the memes, lol
Voidstrike DOES need more buffs though 
Possibly a bug since your more accurate crouching with anything else afaik
What's the trick with a weapons second blessing being under a padlock? Can you not rebless it to change that particular blessing?
Does someone happens to know a decent Psyker content creator? I'm trying to find some resources on psyker too
telopots, ryken
Thank you
you can change 2 things on a weapon of the perks and blessings, so you can either change both perks, both blessings, or one of each
those choices are then locked in so you can only change the things you already changed
You’re not alone. I did the same. Last time I played it was one perk one blessing so I screwed my almost perfect void staff roll. Now it’s just a good staff.
Idk if 2 blessings/perks has benefited me yet
I feel like i never get 2 of the exact perks/blessings i want
So its always 1 perk one blessing
i have a few times, but yeah, it doesn't change the probability all that much
We did it Joe
Only need to change that unarmored after I get more plasmoney
Inshallah
Anywhere I can go to see some good psyker builds / talent tree paths?
Experiment yourself. Some builds might be sus af.
someone asked to see my obscurus a while ago, idk if they're still here but here it is
prob
fairly random builds over there, you can get some inspiration I guess
not that you can go terribly wrong
doing a build feels pretty intuitive to me, i haven't felt the need to look anything up
i didn't really think about the fact that kinetic flayer is kinda bad until someone mentioned it here, that's about it
it used to be less bad when you could at least get a free warp charge out of it but now its basically useless
Do any of the weapon perks apply to assail?
only if you swap to the weapon after throwing the darts
dunno its nice, keystones are kind of just "which button do you want to be better" and warp is just your F getting CDR
Yeah I was looking and some of them seem whack
Ahh makes sense
If you take CDR stuff most builds are fine tbh
being able to shout like every 8 seconds or whatever is pretty dope
i usually (always) take the cdr stuff
Whether it be via crits on zealot or warp charges/aura on psyker its generally good
Psyker has good crit stuff too
shield/shriek are both fantastic to have on as short a cooldown as possible
with purgatus i feel like i literally never have to stop firing
Sorry last question do you guys know if the toughness regeneration speed for curios applies to toughness gained from killing enemies etc or just base regen?
i don't think it does, but it also doesn't really matter, basically any action we take regenerates toughness lol
Yeah my build rn is pretty crit oriented
Okay good to know I’m going to change that then
Yeah just coherency
Still good
I run toughness regen on my curios. 
Yeah i do as well
i run more cooldown reduction
Ew, warp charges
Gross
Cd is good too.
Esp since i prefer 2 toughness one health on psyker
Unless im not running KD then i want a +3 stam
But im almost always running KD now
Yeah same
They arent hard to get either
Kd is a little out of the way if your running warp charges
Thats about it tho
idk about combustion it's only 4 stacks
you venting shriek a group of elites, kill one of them and it's 10 on most of them
It's one of our most op talent imo.
i guess if you can kill elites faster than your other teammates
with void and assail you definitely will
Maybe only purg might have trouble with elites kill speed.
I definitely top all the specials and elites kill when using trauma and surge.
there is also so many elites to kill now that you basically always get value out of it
Yeah theres enough elites for it to be at least a nice damage boost
Also very easy to grab
oh i don't run void/assail
Guys what perks should I aim for with curios playing damnation?
mostly run purge with bb or smite
I dont think void/assail is needed but that will def kill enough elites lol
I mean purg still killes elites plenty
My only issue with purge is my staff is my anti-carpace now that BB is lame. And everything dies pretty fast, it feels so niche now.
BB was always lame
Purge might have trouble with getting the actual kill because of slow ramp up time, if you have really good teammates.
i kind of like how fast it is with EP
Which is rare in random pubbing.
I would use BB 90% of the time throughout a match and be well into first place. Now It's just too slow compared to everything else. And the boss damage is so mid compared to other classes, wasn't that bad before.
There like a support channel or some?
Tech?
Anywhere to spill something
I'm trying out surge + smite and it's actually pretty nice
support for those suffering from Darktide
I dunno man, general chat lmao.
I was doing the psyker penance to pop a pox hound mid pounce and did but it didn’t register
i'm basically never using smite but getting it because i want the left side nodes and the extra chain
Because I was using the augmented version of the ability
Spamming just surge and auto-walking foward through aurics is pretty relaxing.
is it even worth taking the extra chain node
Which made me have an aneurism thinking about attempting the one on ogryn
It's a little extra damage and it staggers
looked like 0 damage but stagger is something
it's good for shooter groups
I tried a game with it and then a game right after without it, geniunely didn't notice a difference.
anyways i'm basically relying on all the soulblaze talents for horde dps
the stagger is the entire point of smite
Pretty much spamming F shriek for soulblaze on hordes, taking out elites with surge staff to reduce it's cooldown and also to burn nearby stuff
Surge get's the chain bonus
he is taking the smite node for +1 chain for surge
yeah
oh that works?
that's funny
Yeah, probably a bug, but fun for now.
i mean it's worth it to have it on smite if nothing else
Anyways it's pretty much a shriek spam / soulblaze build, and i'm pretty much only taking smite for the left nodes
occassionally i'll use smite if i'm clutching and i've already burned everything to 10 stacks and i'm just waiting for them to all die
Maybe I'm just blind
You notice it more on the left click version compared to the heavy
Ah, I never left click
Smite chains so much it doesn't matter
for surge staff it's nice to hit 3 gunners
just to stagger them all and do a bit of damage
Yeah, the ranged cc is a bit wild
And surges does enough damage you can just spam left click during the right click charge to kill shooters
it's funny that node is more useful for the staff than the actual blitz it's tied to
Yeah, if they "fix" it effecting surge, they need to buff the node or it's pointless.
i'll go test it
Anyone else try gun psyker? Feels bad constantly getting blocked by fat arsed ogryns
Ogryns and Psykers are supposed to get along, stupid gunkers 😦
Wish they could carry me snd I could just shoot from his back
it feels pretty noticeable
Boy I am having a hard time making any of my Psyker builds without One With The Warp
Anyway I still Gunker
For smite right click?
What gun do you use mate?
Laspistol crit psyker is great
You get both dumdum and infernus on it and it just deletes all the things
yeah right click
I wanna test it when there's enemies at melee range now, see how far it bounces.
I have a shredder pistol rolled with 2 lvl 4 blessings awesome stats buy I chew through ammo
it seems like it gets one additional tendril of loightnin, which chains independently
No scyers gaze?
scriers gaze is weird
Not that Gaze is bad but you can get more done just protecting your ground
This is the build I use with laspistol, along with mk4 dueling saber. Good ammo efficiency and virtual immunity to ranged damage with empathic evasion
Plus two shields means two activations for the fast BB node
So I'm not getting the same "difference" you getting in the picture. It's more that smite's aim is a bit random and sometimes you'll get a good cast and sometimes bad.
are you sure? i tried multiple times
Yeah, I mean I see the extra chain happening, so it's not not happening, but it's definitely not too substantial. Smite aim seems finicky. I keep retrying it and I randomly get better results without the trait and with, back and forth.
🙏
Forget to mention I wasn't praying to the emperor but the chaos gods.
You just a pretty good blaze trauma there
Aye mane decent blaze trauma that.
Ah, I just saw the transfer peril and turned my eyes off. That is pretty decent
Swap blast radius and warp resistance would be veri kool but it's good.
That is a very nice fire trauma
Revolver?
well... I do prefer voidstrike any day of the week anyway, I was waiting for it like rain.
But what to do then, swap both blessings to t4 blaze trauma?
?
then it is really not so shabby!
Could keep elite damage too for now, makes it more flexible
Maybe one day we will get t4 blaze and rule the world
what staff is the one where you shoot fire, the last one?
Purgatus
i see
purg
can force sword kill crushers if i get a good one
or do you have to use like void for that
I have never paid attention to break points on the blaze trauma. Mine has unarmored but flak is the other choice. No clue if it matters for certains bps
Flak and unarmored were pretty important pre-patch, but who knows what the break points are now.
Just depends on what you wanna burn faster
Trauma goes off body armor so carapace is meh
Only working on crushers
I usually go flak
that’s a nice illisi
dueling sword mk4 kinda fucks
hell yeah it does
one shotting elites and specials left and right
Yeah I thought it was just me playing on lower difficulties but it still domes on damn fr
should i switch one of the perks or rather a blessing
Fire sword is a meme and needs a crit blessing to make it work.
It will one shot everything except ogryns and maulers on damnation with a heavy headshot. Then you put rending on it........
If you dont' want the meme, switch blazing spirit out for something like Uncanny strike.
You don't do much to carapace with Illisi tho.
god I wish I had t4 uncanny strike
You could swap blazing to uncanny to make more use of that carapace perk and specialists to maniac
what do you run dueling mk4 uncanny and?
Rampage I’m pretty sure
Rampage/shred/riposte/precog all work
i already put deflector on the sword so i can only change one
Although rampage applies dummy damage to your weapon and lets you like one shot crushers
Arco has a clip of it
Illy kind of has to have slaughterer unless you flaming, no?
You need to do push attack to hit cleave limit tho i think
I have a surge staff with T4 terrifying barrage, should I swap it out for T3 warp nexus or keep it?
use smite instead
It's fate, the useless store literally had a 376 mk4. It will roll everything it needs 🎲
Nexus
Barrage isnt very good
I say shred or riposte. But I, like, never push attack so rampage is a waste on me.
idk how to feel about those perks and blessings
Wat do?
How does bloodthirsty and blazing spirit work on the ilisi. The crit happens, the soulblaze gets applied and then it dies? So with wildfire it would then spread to the next targets? Then you apply another 4 so that target would then have 8 and another 4 spread? Although killing everything with the sword seems more efficient. I guess that could help with horde clear on the other force swords.
If you are slow to aim, surgical can really pump up the crit chance. Hand cannon is great too.
I'd replace barrage and groaners.
yea
Precog and ramage are kinda playstyle dependent. If you push attack a lot keep rampage. If dodge around a lot, keep precog. Also keep in mind that rampage requires you to cleave multiple enemies and won't help you on one big target.
Play around and see with of those blessings work best for you. Then swap the one you don't like for Uncanny Strikes and Sprint for maniac/ flak/ what you have the most trouble with.
Blood thirst only gives you 1 garunteed crit AFTER killing with a special attak, so the fire fizzles out. Shred is more sustainable.
it doesn't work
if you kill the target it doesn't get the fire stacks
and you will probably kill it since you crit
I assume so.
I haven't paid attention to the new preferred void blessing this patch.
I still have my flurry + transfer peril build and it feels very strong.
With void being so strong right now, I don't think you can go TOO "wrong" in your build.
Wow someone actually running transfer peril
Mad respect to you
I thought i was trolling
It used to me a meta build. So don't praise me too much. 😊
Just haven't felt the need to change yet. I have to throw my plasteal into the toilet on other projects first.
Like on a laspistol that I'll never use. IMPORTANT
Shred is better than bloodthirsty
You heretic, take that back
Laspistol is life
It's not like transfer peril is suddenly bad.
Cause it's not
odd, i'll do some more testing later when i don't feel like a sack of lukewarm sharts
I will built it. I will try it. Then I will forget because I am potato.
Lol
Anyone got a good staff so i can based on that to craft? Tks
I’m also running Flurry+Transfer Peril on my Void. Is there a new, better combo?
How does disrupt destiny feel with gunker?
better than staff psyker i imagine
Also depends on the staff
Surge nexus is meta atm
On ventilation purge DD feels like cheating. 😂
I like DD on surge staff and revolver, more so on revolver. I don't like it as much on trauma; then again, I use fire trauma so I probably get them anyways.
Those are the three main ranged that I've been using.
TBH, I like bubble shield and smite so I end up taking those a lot. With the other keystones breaking tf out them, I just use DD. I don't want to mentally nerf myself out of infinite shields and smite.
I wonder if I'm just stupid or disrupt destiny always had a big bright cryan glow on enemies
Well, enemy
Kinda annoying to hunt a random target at times, but I guess it really is working to disrupt my destiny

It can mess with target priority when a random shooter in the back of the room is highlighted and you have a mutant running at you.
There is a bug tho. Sometimes and enemy just doesn't glow.
Or enemy sometimes just has soul blaze stacks on them 😅
If ADHD wasn't already a modifier, it sure as shit is with DD.
yee
If you have the player outline mod, it adds to the DD confusion.
I’m so glad to know I’m not the only one who literally wastes plasteel
what are the go to blessings for surge staff?
I chain waste it. There is no other way.
Nexus and flurry
ty
purpling crap while leveling is the bane of my plasteel supply
Does anyone know a build to do the challenge of killing 4 elites in 12 seconds?
which type of duelling sword should I use ?
siblings should i change sprint for maniacs and shred for uncanny?
i love the IV
Riposte to uncanny strike, sprint efficiency to uhhhh
It's probably been asked so i apologize, but im a returned player. What is Auric Level? is that much harder than Damnation?
riposte? i though i was the one to keep
I think if you can't one-shot infested, it's worth seeing if the 25% helps
I don't like riposte's requirements and uncanny doesn't work with a lame concept like "chance of chance to increase your damage"
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Too convoluted for me to depend on an enemy to hit me at the right time to I can get an RNG buff
Easier to make up for some of the pesky modifiers the sword has, like the abysmal flak values
But it would make it less effective against monstrosities that I can't reliably crit on (chaos spawn, beast of nurgle). I'll do some number crunching tho and get back to you
it takes a decent buff for DS lights to one-shot poxwalkers
I don't remember what I'm doing with mine, but I think the mk4 at least can do it now
e.g., roughly 200 damage on a weakspot w/o crits
Maybe it's disrupt destiny that hits it
and poxwalkers having 375 hp
I also got uhhh 20% infested I think
Oh yeah, they buffed enemy health with the patch too
so you'll need a +87.5% damage buff from somewhere and somehow to do it
We got uhhhh disrupt destiny's 15%, I don't remember if it also gives weakspot
it gives weakspot yeah
That plus the infested perk might be enough?
with the 1.1x from warp rider and 1.25x from +infested, you'll need 1.36x more relative damage
DS is one of those funny finesse weapons after all
but the condition to one-shot poxwaklers if I have DD stacks is a bit too specific
and I think you're better off just having hordeclear elsewhere
It is, yeah
Is it only me or Disrupt Destiny's "enemies have a chance of being marked" make it totally unreliable? Even with 30s duration (and ofc, killing the blue target) it's hard to keep
It's pretty annoying at times, yeah
And I swear it doesn't mark enemies properly
One match I played today had a section with nothing highlighted, I was at no stacks, then I looked down and was at 15
Complete nonsense
At least DD accentuates how good the revolver's penetration is
You see a glowing man, you shoot the glowing man and only a wall can stop it
maybe they got marked during (whatever you used) travel time
Plus the accuracy is aimbot good
but yeah that chance to mark per 1s sometimes marks a few enemies in a row, then nada for 2 minutes
anyone down to do a private heresy? need to get my penance done
so last night someone suggested I test out all the staffs to see which I felt comfortable using ...well I can tell you this, not a fan of the Nomanus staff at all ...nope, not in the slightest. time to test the last one, the Equinox Mk IV
This is not an optimal situation
it's joever
try dealing with a nurgle monstrosity and a demonhost at the same time. yes that happened to me twice
thats somehow more acceptable
i'd rather fight the two plague ogryn than that stupid demonhost
Whelp. Looks like there are multiple bugs when using BR with EP.
Time to go check the forums D:
I guess this is a good enough deimos roll straight from the shop, considering its the first Deimos with anywhere decent stats and it actually has deflector on it as well
how does that happen 
Friends wanted to bonk head against the Auric Maelstrom wall
No like which modifier allows that?
I dont know, before that we had a Nurgle Blessed "Weakend" Plague Ogryn as well 
definitely shat my pants when seeing a Beast and Daemonhost health bar on the same screen but I’ve never seen anything like that you just shared 
but it was this mission
were you guys like speed running or something? I’m a noob and don’t entirely understand how the boss spawns work.
special waves spawn monstrosities
I thought they were triggered by walking into certain areas. Does the modifier actually make a mini plague ogryn 
not really, we barely got to the first church in there when the Weakened Nurgle Blessed Plague Ogryn spawned
And we somehow managed to kill that, and then moving forward we got 2x "normal" Plague Ogryns
Just a heads up, people refer to the Nomanus as surge and the Equinox Mk IV as void or voidstrike.
Not policing language, just some might not remember or not know those names if you're trying to have convos about them.
Lemme know. My tree is pretty strained on that build, so that extra point is either peril block, smite chain, or combustion.
there are builds that melt bosses, but usually a thammer zealot is the answer if boss spam is a problem
bonk, 1/4-1/3 of its hp gone
Is there a psyker build that melts bosses in any meaningful way?
And not "good for a psyker"?
vraks 3
Purge stacks are actually really good
gunker with the three shot burst crit damage specced head hunter can slay out on bosses if you have good aim and your team is covering you
purge is also good, but both are dps and not burst like thammer, krak, or frag bomb
getting boss DPS that doesn't require weakspot hits is troublesome
Flaming sword good at all on bosses?
double toss proc damage boosted stealth krak is funny, thammer is busted, and frag bomb is the best meme ever
I always smile when I throw a frag bomb
how are you supposed to use saber? i like it a lot less than illisi force sword
no, you good boss swords are ds mkiv and demios, both having uncanny strike
the duelling swords are a single-target oriented family of weapons
i see, deffo not for my build then
so there's not much comparing them to the illisi's role especially when the mk2 didn't get properly buffed
what is this fire sword?
wildfire is not great outside of creeping flames and purgatus staff, but fire sword can work if you are full crit spec gaze for the meme
Illisis blazing spirit + shred
Honestly the best boss dps for psyker I’ve personally found is a mark 4 dueling with uncanny strike and just hit the weak spot non stop but it’s not consistent you aren’t always going to be able to safely spam heavies into the bosses weakspot
Or the crit on kill
never seen blazing spirit, it's a blessing i'm guessing
Opps
should be an option to take big boy BB that does actual boss damage
not really
100% peril in one go
yup
Beyond that you can stagger lock bosses with a void strike staff if you hit headshots and it also does fair damage especially with a crit build.
I suppose use that while you can, but I'm sure perma stagger monsters with void will be patched out.
Why would it zealot ult can do the samd
Bro Ive seen that 3 times and survived once. Shits brutal
You can also do the same with ogryn q special on a few weapons
vstrike staggering monsters is one of the interactions that I expect to be intentional
the rumbler can do it as well
Super stagger from the surge blessing does not feel as intended 🤷♂️
they seemed to have buffed the ability of certain weapons to do stagger during this round, such as with the duelling swords being able to stagger mutants and whatnot
VS definitely a good ranged option for handling bosses
Even with perma stunlock??
not huge dps, but the stagger can clutch
I thought you needed both?
Its not from surge its hitting weakspot
You dont need Surge to stagger bosses if you hit weakspot
Oh, then that's not so bad.
been encountering alot of groups that leave me for dead after a boss spawns on auric damnation though, feels bad
Honestly the solution is to make it unstaggerable for 1-3 seconds after stun
plz no invuln phases to bosses, that'd be toxic 
Catch up dude.
as in, we fight the boss for 30 seconds, then they fuck off and start clearing further into the map while I am still kiting and trying to kill the boss
Feed the psyker to the monster seems lore accurate
such are pubs
Why? CCing bosses is fine, doesn’t need to be changed imo
having the door getting closed on you with a boss around is also a real banger
lol, true
having the team with you is more for disabler coverage when fighting a boss
I can fairly easily tank most bosses if I am allowed to focus on them
you can't just leave the dude behind fighting the boss that's fucked up
I think if they are gonna nerf voidstrike, all they should do is make it so it doesn’t have infinite collateral. Like cap it at 10.
I just cannot for the life of me anticipate the Chaos Spawn grab if I'm tanking it
you're right; requires surge as well
So yeah, that doesn't feel intentional.
Huh, are we talking about different staggers here then?
psyker being able to have baseline 39% crit chance 😔
Cause if I get a fully charged hit on Plague Ogryn's head, it will stagger for long enough time to get the next one off, its just a matter of actually aiming it
and I dont have surge
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ok this gun is growing on me
I'm not sure if the perks are the best but I can always change it
So I tried all the methods you guys suggested for anti boss except the vraks, all of it is super mid, so I guess that's just it for psyker unless I wanna join the darkside of gunker gaming.
gunk it up
I like using Ye Olde Deimos sword
the heretics have echoed their last gunk
2nd time someone said that about calling the staffs a particular way. Pls stop. if you can't tell what staff i'm referring to when I name it directly, that's not my fault. I don't need to use shortcuts
also i forgot that the vraks 7 existed
get one with surgical + deadly accurate and call it a day
The recoil sucked at first but now I'm getting used to it
I def need one with better base stats
A random gun I had in my inventory with 30% damage stat does more boss DPS than BB. What have they done to my baby 😢
Do scrier, infernus dumdum laspistol
Gunker gaming 😡
(is for my alt psyker only)
lmao that sounds fun
@lethal lagoon the weapon (not even with t4 blessings) and the only talent it needs
nvm I do have +25 unyielding on it
but still
can do the same for plogryn
Might not be viable in any way but smite psyker is so fun (also kinda terrible i feel)
if you want to quick kill the scab boss, uncanny strike 4 + unstable power 4 deimos deals aroudn 25% to 33% scab boss hp on special heavy head at 80+ peril depending on roll and perks (no flak / flak)
but that's easiest when running smite as well
so you can create space while getting hi on peril
unironically
Unironically seems like the best headhunter that can take advantage of the talents
Its also much easier to control than Mk 7
Does that work well on anything other than vraks?
Recon probs works well too
But not as much of a boss killer
I haven't tried out Mk 9 Headhunter
I wonder how that feels to use
still seems depressing
why is its burst so slow
you have a stupid amount of crit procs with the columnus infantry autogun because of crit strings even with just 16.5% crit chance
no wait i forgot True Aim was a thing
so just a crit string moment
how did the crit strings work? I remember reading about them but completely forgot everything
basically if you roll a crit, it's not just one shot that will crit--multiple shots in sequence will crit
crit string that's 5 shots long
seems reasonable and makes perfect sense of course
as always, yeah
length of string depends on the gun
no crit strings for any melee weapons as far as I know
Maybe to reduce the load on memory/CPU of a really rapid fire gun? So instead of calculating 100 recon las shots' crits, it does them in groups
I dunno, just a thought
i suppose
but they also don't balance it out
headhunter/True Aim + crit strings = very balanced
Alright can somebody give me a rundown on what i want on a Vraks? Stats, Ideal Perks and Blessings?
The cape so you can be a moth.
is crit damage on a weapon multiplicative?
like is +10% crit damage perk multiplicative or additive
if you do 100 base damage and 125 damage on a crit, +10% crit damage means that you'll deal
125 + (125 - 100) * 0.1 = 127.5 damage on a crit instead
take a moment to understand how insane and psychopathic this calculation is
what in the fuck
And this is why sharks should be mathmaticians
in reality that should be 100(1+0.25*1.1)
so it's increasing the bonus crit damage by 10% which is
psychopathic
someone from fatshark explain please
In reality it should just multiply the crit damage by 1.1 like every other game in existence
yeah for sure
so not only do the +crit/weakspot perks have a lower numerical bonus than the other damage perks
they end up not being worth it on a good portion of weapons
well, nowadays weapons actually do have decent finesse multipliers
but for example, +10% weakspot damage on the mk4 duell is actually really a +6% damage bonus
really what i'm asking is (i already switched sprint efficiency to +5% crit chance) should i swap weak spot or warp flurry
what else are you running on purg
i like flurry+nexus on purge
yeah same
purg applies double soulblaze stacks on a crit so it really likes + crit chance
interesting, okay
and flurry makes it feel nice
less time spent charging -> less peril generated -> more full charge purg blasts -> more soulblaze spread
it's so much easier to keep flurry stacks now
it used to just go away if you did literally anything other than attack immeidately
I get it's frustrating to be told something multiple times. I suspect others will do the same since you've got the marker indicating that you are new here. People tend to be helpful here, so they, myself included, will try to let you know of the colloquial terms so info isn't gate kept and and everyone can be apart of the conversation.
Again, you can call weapons what you like.
What's happening now?
darktide
burn 77% is top stacks right?
Someone is expressing their frustration. As far as I know.
About names?
Of staves?
They should join the gunker cult
Then they won't have to worry about staff names ever again
I thought there was a magic percentile that you need on burn on purgatus staff to be able to hit max stacks
76%
perfect thank you
Yes names, but also they were corrected or offered the local terms twice. That repeated interaction caused frustration.
I believe at least.
quite unusual to actively avoid using the naming conventions here
oh well
people shall live their (wrong) lives
I have level 4 blessings of both nexus and flurry
but I also want to add crit if possible
Why? Maybe swap to crit chance instead of stam
I guess infested to crit, then... nexus to level 4?
+stam would be the one i'd change
OK, sounds like unanimously stam to crit
because +stam can be a straight up detriment by making your relative stamina regen slower
stam for sure
theres 2 equinox staffs and theyre totally different
might as well just call them their one word name
Hah because it’s 10% extra “crit damage”, that’s funny
i hate my equinox mk12 but love the mk1
Here it is now, thanks again for the solid advice as always all
rifthaven4lyf
@spice veldt what do you build
i can't believe this is still the case
the numbers on those perks are low enough that they could apply to the whole hit and it would still be fine
uhh, I'm a crackhead so I just run +infested/+unarmoured (bad idea if playing optimally)
i figure that I kill everything else with assail so I might as well get horde events over with the purg
What's the optimal buikd then xD
sorry i only sell crack (no idea)
haven't played purg this patch
purge died when everyone got on the assail train
I have fire trauma and limited loadouts. So no purge right now.
i'd run purg for maximum braincell-less gameplay
honestly i'm just bad at playing purg anyways
I'm also not using assail because I can't remember that it exists.
purg + assail for the most mechanically dead playstyle ever
Yeah but that's psyker in general
god bless america

tru
Specially with assail
but imagine the bottomless depths that you can go to avoid any semblance of aiming
ok but have you tried surge + assail?
no i'm not insane (i figure that I'd still prefer trauma over the new surge)
I be honest you still need BR with purge otherwise gunners will tab that ass
i'm too paranoid of 10 crushers dropping on me to not run trauma
my body can only handle a single overhead
10 crushers isn't the worst thing to deal with as a surge user
That's why I take smite when I have revolver.
you kill each in 3 casts as long as you crit for one of them
i suppose the new surge is quite good in terms of targeting priority?
Surprisingly yes.
It's a lot better now
there's still occassionally some issues with obviously fucked situations
like if you're trying to hit that sniper 20m away and there's 10 ragers in between, you're not gonna hit the sniper
so it's not like, ultra precise
Is it always pinpoint?? No.
But you can generally get the thing you're aiming.
I think Purg is good but you can get the cooldown on Venting Shriek with Creeping Flames is so low with War Siphon you almost get as much value out of it as the Purg staff allowing you to run another staff.
i will say unimaginable things to the veteran player who did the most ineffective ass shots against a target while i had everyone stun
instead of picking up his teammates
and just left the moment he died
against groaners/poxwalkers yeah
literally had a room stunned with smite
but the purg is quite nice for rager/mauler patrols as well
what did the player do instead of picking up teammates?
just shoot at the reapers
without killing a single
and then stood out there
the only encounters that make me feel horrible using my surge/smite build right now are long distance snipers, and monstrocities
damn they should've been a psyker player
running assail instead of smite solves the sniper issue
surge just isn't great at bosses though
would rather melee them
he was a xbox player
EVEN MORE OF A REASON
my issue with surge is that under level 30 your teammates will just take advantage of it
Surge M1 has better monster damage that the charge. 🥲
*not
surge just does damage on its own now
I don't need teammates to take advantage of it
the talent yes, the monstrosity damage, no
the way critical hits work is that there is a small time window when you will roll crits if you crit, so fast firing weapons will get multiple bullets as crits when you do crit, so you can proc true aim and get almost all your stacks up again during the crit window so you can crit again
meant smite my bad
I only cast smite if i have things soulblazed and i know they're gonna die
i only really take it for the +1 chain cause that applies to surge for some reason
sometimes i go entire games without using smite
(not the fact that it applies to surge, but the fact that you're taking smite specifically for it)
smite can be real useful for horde control considering you throw some enemies to the ground when you end it
dreg gunners can even be thrown
the alternative is taking brain burst, which i would never use either
I just want wildfire and psykinetic aura for the soulblaze spam man
if i'm pathing to that part of the tree for a dead blitz, might as well grab the extra chain
it's nice stagger anyways
i'm sure staggering that extra shooter has saved me a bit of health at some point
a build i plan on running is soulblaze ilsi using schier gaze
I like the commitment.
i find it cool to turn a horde on fire only using your sword
power attack crit sweep
tbh I'm glad that I can't access psykinetic's aura from the right side
i hate that you should only upgrade weapon till you get to level 30
because it made me so greedy for elite/special kills
you would not believe the tunnel vision that I had pre-update
I'm glad i can only access psykinetic's aura from on left side because then i can pretend i have a real reason to not take assail
even though i'd probably do more with assail anyways
same. Though DD is doing a number on me now.
ive been doing a smite build over assail so that people other then me can have fun
I should just go back to my no keystone build
i can't believe fatshark would do this
I would still greed anyways because:
tbh I forget that it exists because it's so free
wao random 5 kills in the killfeed out of nowhere
anyways
Also true 😵💫
i mean
me when i greed special/elite kills because i need it for psykinetic aura, perilous combustion, and warp siphon
I really made a big and huge effort for perilous combustion
it was part of my tactical plan
wasn't soul fire damage
my build just gets so much stronger on shocktroop gauntlet because i actually really need more elites/specials
like doesn't 4 stacks not even kill anyone anhore
and then you should just path into disrupt destiny for a greater addiction
single-target wise, it's not impressive
but remember that it applies soulblaze in a 4m radius area https://streamable.com/o7myk5
disrupt destiny needs more buffs
me unironically going DD again for more crit damage for Surge
8 stacks will kill a lot of enemies, so if you kill 2 elites....
warp charges are more reliable then dd
and soulblaze is quite ltierally just free
it will tick down even if you're sitting down at a lawnchair with all hands off of your keyboard and mouse
kill 2 elites -> watch the show
help soften thing up if you can't quite hit a breakpoint
Hey arc what should i switch here
perilous combustion + uncanny strike on melee maelstrom 😳 https://streamable.com/4ueqyl
uhh i don't use void so idk any breakpoints
you WHAT
it still feels very meh to me to use, even if it's well-performing nowadays
just the fact that it's a projectile weapon with a slow fire rate
I do not like the feeling of using weapons like that
charging + projectile + slow fire rate
This is how i take out gunner packs
fire rate isn't that slow, especially with flurry 4
you can spam half charge shots quite quickly
half-charge shots 😔
still feels extremely bad to me
the LMB bolt feels better to me to use than the RMB
the combination of charging + projectile + slow firerate really just kills the weapon feel for me
(ignore the fact that I use purgatus)
my surge staff fires off pretty quickly thanks to the fact that it has flurry or something on it. so i can spam the charge surge pretty quickly.
rip bozo
soulstealer + perilous combustion being on the same route and right next to the starting node will never not be funny to me
tfw i kill 2 elites and the entire horde just fucking dies
especially when people don't realize how good perilous combustion is
"soulblaze has bad damage" mfs when they don't realize that soulblaze has nonlinear stacking and that it applies it in a non-inconsequential 4m radius area
arc always be on his perilous combustion juju
i really am on it
because it's insane that people just think it's bad without testing it at all
people not realizing how big a 4m radius circle is as well
fuckers need to go do their own testing instead of me showing a simple demo of how it works and suddenly they're on board with it
y'see, there aren't many elites/specials on malice.
hence the haters
bro what the fuck are those graphics?
it kinda looks cute
got that low-poly aesthetic
tbh I thought that there would be more people that would prefer performance over graphics
and they'd be like "wow arco those are some pretty gamer graphics how can I get those"
but I guess graphics do play a large role in people's enjoyment of the game, much to my sadness
Nothing bro.
i want to at least swap weak spot because it wont do much
I mean, graphics are a significant reason why some don't like Valheim.
was gonna swap to 25% unyielding maybe
Also a lot of people like cinematic games
true
It does bro. Headshots on muties and crushers.
I think the animations play a large role as to why I like darktide
since I didn't really like vt2
and I think it was mainly the game feel and animations for that
hey arc where would i find how effective +8% weakspot bonus on voidstrike is
look at the damage table and basically calculate it from there
Valid. Jumping back to VT2 after darktide feels so jarring and choppy. Feels kinda jank.
idk what the numbers are, but let's say Vstrike deals 700 base damage and 1400 damage on a weakspot
Then, +8% weakspot contributes (1400 - 700) * 0.08 = blah blah damage on a weakspot hit
cheers that helps a lot
Hello all, Im trying to get a build for each of the 4 staves, and I simply cannot see a good use for anything other than assail....can anyone provide a link to some good damnation and auric damnation builds if they exist? For instance, I basically have no clue wtf smite is good for. it just seems so lacklustre, since every aspect of it can be duplicated by a surge staff.
Thanks in advance, - Kio.
ok so 10% weakspot damage bonus on voidstrike equals a 4% total damage bonus
which is
nothing
Yee, same with critical damage. It is very lackluster.
so, what, switch to 25% unyielding?
it already obliterates all armor
maybe just helps to stagger plague ogryns and chaos spawns
can you stagger beast of nurgle?
Hit the boil and yeah
so assail seems to be run everywhere how are the other 2?
I've started running smite but i rarely use it
i am new to the game so can someone show me what a illisi mk v force sword god roll look like
I think its cause smite needs teamwork lol. like it does no damage but the stun time is godlike
Like i've used it on occassion when everything's burning to death and i'm just waiting, or if need to safely build peril, or someone's doing data interrogator at a bad time
but really i'm just taking it to reach left side of the tree for psykinetic aura and wildfire
there are some people who abuse the infinite smite bug to hold it forever
how is the bb upgrade
I heard the smite bug isnt even worth it cause you do trash damage lol
I just want to see what a god roll for any weapon looks like honestly
So...then smite really is as trash as I think? Cause i could find no good use for it at all.
it's like, occassionally good utility
but i don't find myself using it often over actually just killing things
like if you're in a coordinated team
you can smite while someone's getting a revive off
scrier witch cosmetic goes good with it
@heavy ivy that's the only 'god roll' I have on my phone
Smite is CC. That's it.
so its assail smite and bb upgrade right how is the bb upgrade?
It's not for damage. If you're looking for damage and choose smite, you'll be disappointed.
Should i get this one over my current?
so you can reroll 1 perk and 1 blessing but for the blessing you have to extract one off of another weapon right
You extract blessing from one weapon and you can place this blessing in all weapons of the same type (iirc)
Not worth the melk coins unless you just want to.
do i need multiple of the blessing to put it on multiple weapons?
IIRC no
You just unlock it
ok so once I find deflector (dunno the highest version) i can just put it on all my force swords does the mark or type matter
Weapon of the same type (exept staves) share a blessing pool.
So you can turn in a Mk 5 dueling sword with a blessing, and then put that blessing on any dueling sword.
This
Does the brain rupture on attack talent have a cd against 1 target or in general? Can I proc it multiple times against separate enemies ?
unfortunately, it's as bad as it sounds--the cooldown is in general
they didn't tune it after importing it from the old feat tree
imagine spraying purge staff into a horde and every enemy just headpops
as a fun fact, the revolver bash will benefit from Surgical
Revolver bash is so terrible
better than staff bash
For some reason it always knocks poxbursters down and towards you
don't talk to me or my 100% crit chance bash ever again
is that just some ini changes or a mod?
the smooth graphics?
ye
just changes to user_settings.config
nice
is it just texture quality?
my desktop might benefit from it so I dont have to run XeSS on it to dip below 165fps
when tf are they gonna release red quality weps
and a few other things, but texture quality is probably the most noticeable change
the other setting that people might like is static_sun_shadows to turn the sun-fog off on certain maps
my desktop GPU can probably handle hi-res textures just fine sincei t has 16gb of VRAM
its the rest of the cfg that might interest it
😔 my 4gb vram mobile 3050ti
My 16gb vram Arc A770 
what other blessings are useful on mk4 DS with uncanny besides precog, rampage and the other dodge one? i'm not finding much use from precog
Atleast I can think of playing darktide on it now, and it doesnt randomly crash
that was fixed a few drivers ago
shred
i also just realized that all blessings on the duelling swords are pretty useful
(although uncanny strike certainly stands at the top of the mountain)
but I generally prefer riposte over shred
Some day I will find a better blessing to put on my Voidstrike in place of Terrifying Barrage
It already has Warp Flurry IV
I was hoping to find a Transfer Peril IV or even III but no luck
atleast my old Voidstrike has Transfer Peril I on it so I know that the blessing exists
ogryns drool psykers rule
Is this staff worth a pickup?
looks better than my surge staff atleast
pretty good if you wanna use surge staff
also i don't have flurry 4 on surge so i'm jealous
i picked it up and upgraded it and it just got terrifying barrage 4 lol
so i assume i switch sprint efficiency and terrifying barrage
yeah
what should i swap sprint efficiency to? crit chance, flak, carapace?
you could do worse
kek
this is mine
wish weapon trading was a thing
that's similar to how my voidstrikes kept turning out
run and gun on literally every roll
until i finally got surge
I like flak and carapace
Cara because otherwise killing crushers is exhausting
Flak covers a lot of enemies
thats just every staff for me tbh
i swear by my purgatus staff
surge staff is just on the line of being passable for crushers, so i feel like carapace perk pushes it into being decent at it
Atleast my Purgatus Staff has like, THE best blessings around "🙂"
My laspistol enthusiest friends. What blessing do you run?
infernus + dumdum
laspistol is practically suppression immune so you don't need between the eyes, and there's Empathic Evasion to take the role of ghost
Wait, the blessing that makes you immune to suppression actually works?
yeah it works
Just picked up a T4 dumdum for less that 1500 token thingies. Now I just need to find infernus. And a good base weapon...
Cause this vet talent doesnt work
the problem is that if you're in a situation where you need Between the Eyes... good luck getting a headshot while suppressed
and it's particularly the infantry lasguns that their sway while suppressed is fucked
Shouldnt suppression immunity remove that inaccuracy if it works tho?
yeah it removes it
but you need to get a headshot for it to first work
and you're going to have a difficult time getting a headshot in the first place while suppressed
The hipfire on the good enough if you're somewhat close too.
yeah but I'm just surprised that there is a codesnippet somewhere that actually makes you suppression immune
o yeah
since the Vet talent doesnt
pre-patch vet's ult used to have it built-in
but they moved the suppression immunity into another node
(but it's active all the time instead of during the ult, so it is what it is)
if it was active
(but also a lot of weapons being kind of fine while suppressed)
I run Revolver on my vet and I can tell you, the talent definitely doesnt work
Really? I run my infantry lasgun and it makes things soooo much better.
I don't really remember ever getting bothered by suppression on recon las
does recon las get affected by it less?
it works just testing in the psykhanium
different weapons have varying amounts of sway from suppressioon
e.g., helbores having basically none of it lamayo
does deadshot still make the weapon sway whenever it ends
I can tap a gunner head reliably during a match with a revolver, but if they start shooting anywhere near me, none of the bullets hit
uh oh
maybe there's some stupid bullshit and it doesnt work without exe stance equipped or something
deadshot is still fucked in that regard
lasguns are either "this is great, one shotting all the things!" or "I can't aim at all because I am 100% supressed at all times"
seems to also work w/o executioner's stance
are you running Deadshot?
No, Voice
the reduced sway on ADS but consumes stam talent
nope
hmm weird
I just quickly tested it in the Psykhanium myself and there it does work, so maybe theres some stupid buff-blocking happening in a real match situation
how can you get better staffs? like is there a certain time or place to get the highest percentage stats?
and how important is critical damage compared to normal damage
I remember back when high peril on the psyker caused suppression on the revolver. So glad they fixed that one.
lv 30 btw
brunts armory for a high statroll, then get hadron to brick it for you a few times until you get 2/4 of the things you want and go from there
80% on each stat, 380 total (which is less than 80% on every stat)
surge WHY CAN'T THIS BE ME
Ok hear me out
and how important is critical damage compared to normal damage
Gaze Knife Psyker
usually each staff has a "best" dump stat so you want 60 there and 80 everywhere else

