psyker-class

[magic vessel]

Praying hadron doesn't brick me

comeon deflector

[snow rock]

wouldnt pick my teeth with that

jk is gud

[reef nacelle]

is 20% max?

[bleak tulip]

21

but 20 aint nothing to sneeze at

[reef nacelle]

what about toughness?

[bleak tulip]

17

[reef nacelle]

thx

is this okay?

[bleak tulip]

I wouldnt go with muant resist personally but you do you

its not a massive deal

also corruption res isnt my thing but some people run it

[reef nacelle]

what are in your opinion good mods

[leaden mica]

does rating matter more than the actual stats?

[bleak tulip]

health, toughness, gunner resist, cooldown

[bleak tulip]

no, base rating is just a general indicator of how many stat points an item has

its more about knowing dump stats

[reef nacelle]

highest base curio is 75 then?

[bleak tulip]

80

afaik

never seen higher than 80

[strong gulch]

I don't understand curio math. It seems all over the place.

[bleak tulip]

the ranges are 10-20 toughness and 10-25 health, but we only go up to 80 ranking out of presumably 100

so you get 17 and 21

fatshark really loves the number 80

[strong gulch]

This adds up to 530

This does not add up to 195

[bleak tulip]

I legit never even look at the stated rating, its largely irrelevant

[strong gulch]

true

[dawn wolf]

Trying to find out curio rating math is like looking for absolute 0 or Infinity. It's an exercise in insanity.

[strong gulch]

but still 🙃

[bleak tulip]

I wish they just replaced it with base rating already so we didnt need mods to sort our shit by actual value

[warped kernel]

i finally understand the void strike warp charge build, plus building for wild fire and using blazing spirit

[strong gulch]

Emp said so. So the math is correct

[warped kernel]

the power i should say

insane

[strong gulch]

Sorting curios is a nightmare.

[bleak tulip]

this is why I just have like 4 or 5, only 3 of which I use in basically ever loadout

[strong gulch]

good. save brain power for something else

[bleak tulip]

low key the difference between optimal and subotimal curios is so small that it barely matters imo

thats why I just go full health and toughness

cant go wrong

[undone oriole]

whats a simple strat to actually deal with monstrosity on high difficulty with a low level character

[strong gulch]

Yeah. A lot of it is person preference. I think there are breakpoints, but IDK what they are.

[narrow crane]

you dont

[undone oriole]

😓

[strong gulch]

you don't OR bleed?

[bleak tulip]

theyre just damage checks so youre shit outta luck

[narrow crane]

I mean like your best bet is brain burst, but if your weapons suck and you dont have abilities unlocked, youre not gonna do enough dps or have enough health to solo it

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can do much worse than BB lol

[narrow crane]

true

[narrow crane]

what are you playing on Damnation?

[undone oriole]

LVL 14 heresy

[narrow crane]

ehhhhhhh Heresy is doable, it's all technically doable, but youre already playing a squishy class without the benefit of high stat weapons and curios.

[undone oriole]

my random teams are getting wiped to nurgles and chaos beast is all

i can carry most everythign else thx to busted assail

[narrow crane]

yeah that will happen, if youre losing back to back heresy matches, just grind out malice

[undone oriole]

i also have a lvl 30 psyker and all other classes just wanted to try a new guy

[narrow crane]

lmao

[undone oriole]

and also for more melk tokens cuz psykers my fav to play

[narrow crane]

so then you already know the deal tbh, lvl 14 your gear is god awful and will be relying mostly on other players to fill in the gaps.

[limber heath]

You also can't rely on other players in heresy because everyone in non auric is doing the exact same thing as you

[narrow crane]

yeah I can't imagine how bad heresy and lower is rn

[undone oriole]

yea im realizing on my main guys im only doing auric maelstroms or hi shock

[limber heath]

Full of low levels who are also very often new to the game itself, not just levelling a new char

[narrow crane]

new players + returning players rushing through levels for xp, no coherency benefits, no comms

it's a nightmare

[long wharf]

honestly, don't go into a PUG expecting a carry

[undone oriole]

yea im in one now with a 9 a 15 and a 15

[long wharf]

a level 14 psyker is still a carry in Heresy

best bet is to LFG here and jump into a chat channel

[limber heath]

In the case of psyker you should probably be able to deal with monsters tbh

[long wharf]

better for communication and figuring out team comp

[limber heath]

You have a tool to kill everything else so a monster might take some time but assuming it's not a burgle that swallows you it should be winnable

[long wharf]

you mean a Bon Bon

[narrow crane]

yeah when it comes to monsters, you just gotta not corner yourself. keep dodging and sliding and dont get caught on obstacles

[limber heath]

DH is probably the most dangerous IMO because at lower levels you probably don't quite have the DPS to kill it before it sucks off your allies

[long wharf]

is phrasing a thing still?

[narrow crane]

wha

[undone oriole]

maybe ill try lfg, havent since i was new and ppl only wanted to queue with lvl 30s for damnations

[long wharf]

"before it sucks off your allies"

[undone oriole]

now that i am lvl 30 on all it isnt appealing anyway

[narrow crane]

oh lmao

[undone oriole]

and i dunno if anyone would queu with my 14 anyway

[limber heath]

And at lower levels you can 100% guarantee John veteran is going to be sprinting in to any sleeping ladies regardless of how many pings you throw

[long wharf]

rate my sword

[narrow crane]

veteran cosplaying rambo trying to 1v1 a dh with a combat knife

not a bad idea tbh

4% crit chance would irritate me

I would throw it out

[bleak tulip]

cant

[olive ember]

not precog smh

shred smh

[undone oriole]

yea all dh are awoken accidental or not

[narrow crane]

dh gone woke

[bleak tulip]

become the shred prepper and jsut slide slash

[undone oriole]

ive just been letting them feed to it so i can pick them up later if it doesnt look like we'll kill it

[narrow crane]

oh yeah dude

[worldly sun]

which psionic sword is better? mk2/mk4/mk5 ?

[narrow crane]

if the lvl 11 timmy wants to smack a DH? good luck! see you in 5 minutes!

[bleak tulip]

4

[fresh reef]

I wish Purgatus had something like this, just for the spectacle alone

[bleak tulip]

wait I just read that you mean force sword?

illisi or deimos

fuck if I know the numbers

I thought you meant duel

[narrow crane]

i thought so too

[worldly sun]

i just got these xD

[narrow crane]

idk what psionic sword is

[narrow crane]

bricked

no 80 damage? bricked

[worldly sun]

xD

[bleak tulip]

no 80 kurwa sword

[narrow crane]

no guts Dragonslayer? bricked

[stable silo]

whats the meta for melee weapons these days still illis/deimos domination

[bleak tulip]

but yeah deimos is fine

[narrow crane]

everything is good

[worldly sun]

its enough for me 😄

[bleak tulip]

duel 4 is the best but FS still good

[fresh reef]

what do you guys think is the most and least popular staff atm?

[narrow crane]

Surge bc people are mad about it

[stable silo]

really the duel swords are good now?

[narrow crane]

In my humble opinion, they're the best

[stable silo]

i heard the devil claw swords got buffed as well and are good now\

[olive ember]

surge because people think its good

key word is "think"

[bleak tulip]

single target ass staff

[undone oriole]

look i know void might technically have bigger numbers but surge is so much easier to aim

its just for the crushers and maulers cuz assail kills everything else

[bleak tulip]

I mean do whatever makes you feel fuzzy

[narrow crane]

oh wait I misread this, most popular staff is probably void rn, surge is least popular bc people are getting their lightning fix from smite and are unhappy that surge is now a single target weapon

[kind jay]

surge can hit 3 targets if you take the smite +1 node

[lime creek]

so im running assail build with voidstrike staff. what force sword y'all reccomend?

[bleak tulip]

yeah but then you gotta use smite

[whole oxide]

tbh i see more surge than purg

[narrow crane]

Illisi for horde clear but Deimos is just as good with slaughterer

[lime creek]

but isn't the assail for horde clear

biut yeah think ill go Illlisi then cus I also want that deflect blessing

thanks!

[narrow crane]

In my eyes no but you can use it for everything except boss damage tbh

[lime creek]

true

and assail can crit right

[bleak tulip]

yes

[primal aurora]

Any reason to pick Deimos over Dueling sword?

[reef nacelle]

good heavy strikes

you only really need melee to heavy strike with you just clear horde with assail

good vs muties too

i use dueling sword always

[narrow crane]

Yeah, force swords have unlimited dodges, Deimos L1 and H2 do insane damage, and it's got great blessings

Dueling sword also has really good heavy strikes, and while it doesn't have unlimited dodges, you have waaaaaaaaaay more mobility than either force sword

can't go wrong with either, I prefer having dueling sword mobility because it makes disablers almost a non issue

[reef nacelle]

you dont want finesse on dueling right

[narrow crane]

you definitely do

[harsh urchin]

Unlimited dodges, slaughterer, deflector, etc

[reef nacelle]

why you want finesse

[narrow crane]

finesse is attack speed, and crit/weakpoint multiplier

[reef nacelle]

ah i thought it was attack speed

[obsidian arch]

bio lodestone or overpowering souls? im leaning toward the overall 12.5% chance for empowered psionics

[reef nacelle]

whats a good rolled dueking then?

this is pretty good right

[harsh urchin]

Yar

[narrow crane]

this actually works cus youre not cleaving anything with dueling, but you will likely roll bad blessings bc it's less than 360 base stats

[narrow crane]

no

if youre playing at Damnation+, guaranteed empowered stacks on elite kills is way better. youre running into elites nonstop

and as psyker, you should be killing most of them

[obsidian arch]

i figured it would be more beneficial for higher difficulties, youre right

[sonic coral]

I use dueling sword + shock staff + amped head blast, all the burning abilities, and dip into charges, my horde clear is surge to keep them away until at max peril then shoot fire and clear the rest with sword

[severe helm]

For Curio, what's the best stat for psyker?
stacking HP or toughness?

[obsidian arch]

i add a bunch of wounds lol

[narrow crane]

wounds are BAD

[obsidian arch]

and stamina

[whole oxide]

you want at least 1 hp

[narrow crane]

I opt for more HP because that's what's gonna determine if you go down or not. psyker has so much access to toughness regen that as long as youre not running into a deathpit you should be fine

[narrow crane]

if youre constantly doing grim runs (idk why you would other than contracts I guess) it's just a waste of a curio. people get antsy about psyker having two wounds, but again, more wounds isn't gonna help you survive.

[harsh urchin]

There's a few breakpoints you can mess around with in terms of how many snipers and poxbursters you are able to eat

But in terms of mathematics the best is to have some mixture of both

[sonic coral]

what's the correct way to fix this pistol

[feral verge]

swap speedload for dumdum

sprint eff ig for crit chance or maniac dmg

there's no fixing it

[narrow crane]

your perks screwed you

[feral verge]

jsut making it a little better

[narrow crane]

well, shatfark screwed you

[limber heath]

unfixable just get a new one 🙂

[plucky flax]

Hrmm surge staff is indeed very stronk

[feral verge]

is it?

[plucky flax]

Kinda op.

[feral verge]

or were you just using assail

[plucky flax]

Nein.

Non-bugged smite.

• surge.

[narrow crane]

it's fucking busted

[strong gulch]

I like the surge rework

[plucky flax]

I just spam surge the whole map and kill all the elites/specials.

[zinc phoenix]

Legit agree but it’s murder on the hand

[fresh reef]

blazing trauma is pretty funny

[narrow crane]

I don't know why, but Surge staff procs Kinetic Flayer more than any staff I've tried

[zinc phoenix]

Surge absolutely levels the specials and elites

And you can smite any blobs

[plucky flax]

It's great for muties and dogs train maelstrom.

Zip zip zap zap kill them all.

[narrow crane]

and if youre constantly brain bursting with surge, your dps is through the roof

[zinc phoenix]

Stops em nice

[plucky flax]

Brain burst?

I use smite.

[narrow crane]

kinetic flayer

[strong gulch]

Sniping snipers with LMB crit on surge staff has been working surprisingly well too

Thanks revolver taining

[plucky flax]

But smite is stronk.

For palpatine meme.

[narrow crane]

it is, but I'm saying people are sleeping on how often you can get free brain burst while just using surge

[potent echo]

Everytime I bring smite in I always catch myself killing all the threats before I CC them

No smite value

[plucky flax]

Hrm both surge and bb is kinda single target focus. I guess you do it for the extra damage.

[potent echo]

Free brainburst probably has more value on a purg, but I wouldn't recommend it

[sonic coral]

I have used smite several times and I just don't get it

[plucky flax]

On my blaze trauma and purg build I just use vanilla bb without any sub-talent.

[potent echo]

You're not supposed to kill threats, just hold them in place and pray someone else does

[potent echo]

Same actually

[plucky flax]

Anyway not surge but this is a transfer peril warp flurry voidstrike clutch. Kinda sweat at times but I ended up taking no hp damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF7ZjM6D-q0

[sonic coral]

which sucks because it looks rad as hell

[wise crest]

can someone explain what wounds are

[plucky flax]

Top 1% level gameplay.

[narrow crane]

the blocks that divide your health bar

[wise crest]

so what does +1 wounds mean, u get an extra health bar?

[potent echo]

Everytime you go down you take 1 bar worth of corruption (purple) damage

[narrow crane]

it adds another block to your health bar, so if you go down or pick up grimoires it doesn't take up 1/2 of psyker's wound bars

[potent echo]

So more wounds means you can go down more times without straight up dying

[narrow crane]

yes but it's not worth

[strong gulch]

The number of times your health bar is spit up is how many wounds you have. It tracks how many times you can drop and then get picked back up.

[potent echo]

Wounds really depends honestly

If you go down more than 2 times between every medicae then sure bring wounds

[narrow crane]

because you want to avoid going down at all in the first place, so more HP is just better

[analog solstice]

id recommend 1 wound curio for everyone who is not an ogryn or some of the very best players

[potent echo]

More hp only really matters if you keep getting shot by snipers and blown up by bombers

[wise crest]

so I'm level 16 and im running two curious for more health, should i switch one out for +1 wounds?

[lime creek]

toughness curious is where it's at

no

[narrow crane]

bad take

[potent echo]

Stamina and toughness is for gamers

[lime creek]

playing with wound curious is playing to go down

[golden frigate]

just get 3xStamina and call it a day

[potent echo]

Hell yea

[golden frigate]

run back and forth

[narrow crane]

no

[potent echo]

Block the world

[golden frigate]

start of the map till your team, and again

[fresh reef]

the single tick of fire damage erasing your toughness

[potent echo]

Just don't get hit by fire

Also psykers can Regen all the toughness instantly

So it doesn't matter

[wise crest]

wait how

[golden frigate]

the warp

[potent echo]

15% toughness on warp based kill

[golden frigate]

it does wondrous things

[narrow crane]

psyker has a lot of toughness regen

[potent echo]

Do any warp based attack

Profit

[wise crest]

does assail count

[narrow crane]

yes

[potent echo]

Yes ofc

[golden frigate]

yep

[plucky flax]

Only unsanctioned psyker can Harvest the good warp.

[narrow crane]

that's why it's busted lmfao

[potent echo]

"glass cannon"

[golden frigate]

the only good warp is the one from blazing spirit builds BUT trauma

[fresh reef]

I used to be a toughness enjoyer until I saw the light of +hp

[potent echo]

Except the glass is space age self repair nanobot technology

[golden frigate]

then there's generic warp, and then bad warp for surge voidstrike/assail players

[plucky flax]

Tru purga kinda sucks this patch.

[potent echo]

I used to be a +health enjoyer until I saw the light of +toughness

[golden frigate]

why use purgatus if I can illisi the world on blue fire

[fresh reef]

the problem is that tankiness just your ability to make mistakes

the less mistakes you make, the less you need the ability to tank

ergo, Psyker best class

[long wharf]

the problem with toughness curios on the psyker is that your base toughness isn't very good to start with

you're multiplying a low number

[fresh reef]

don't you get like 60 or something at base?

[potent echo]

Ogryn can aggressive trade HP to stabilise games though

[long wharf]

and on higher difficulties, that toughness is going to just disappear in one hit anyways

[potent echo]

Enough tankiness just come around to giving tempo and value again

[wise crest]

if im running an assail build, do i get empowered psionics or disrupt destiny

[queen fog]

Do not hate urself with DD go EP

[narrow crane]

never disrupt destiny

[long wharf]

you can go EP or Warp Siphon (WS)

[narrow crane]

disrupt destiny is some hot ass

[long wharf]

DD is dead until Fatshark makes it usable in a future patch

[strong gulch]

The problem with curios and abilitites is that we have them.

[long wharf]

droopy, 80 year old, granny panty wearing ass

[narrow crane]

yeah it's some swamp ass

[potent echo]

Or just go warpsiphon

[narrow crane]

ogryn ass

[long wharf]

swampy ogryn ass that's been sitting in the same dropship for 8 hours

[fresh reef]

at least you get wallhacks on the random dreg shooter 3 tiles away right?

[long wharf]

what?

[narrow crane]

I remember staring at the disrupt destiny tree day 1 of patch 13 knowing I would never touch that shit

[wise crest]

okay so get warpsiphon got it

[queen fog]

Both EP and WS are good for assail

[narrow crane]

EP is better if you wanna make the game so boring that you'd rather go play Vet

[fresh reef]

I tried DD once, thought it was a neat idea but why the fuck am I running this when EP and WS are just better

[fresh reef]

pre-power sword nerf Vet

[narrow crane]

they could make Vet SSS+ tier and he'd still be Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[wise crest]

Out of the shield, gaze and shriek whats best for assail?

[narrow crane]

gaze is best for gun psyker, shield is a good choice but shreik will prevent you from blowing up all the time

[fresh reef]

Shield, but Shriek if you're bad at managing peril

[strong gulch]

If you have the player outlines mod, it makes DD kinda silly. I ended up playing friend or foe even more that I already do.

[fresh reef]

(tip: don't take shriek and blow yourself up constantly. it's funny)

[wise crest]

okay bet

do enemies take damage when u blow up? Can u kamikaze?

[narrow crane]

and everytime you blow up you write in chat "my b, first game of the day" and then requeue with the same team 5 times and never stop blowing up

[fresh reef]

Yes, but don't expect anything amazing

it does like, 600 damage or something

with a radius of roughly 5 meters

[wise crest]

imma do this

[wise crest]

thats a lot of damage

[fresh reef]

no it ain't lmao

[wise crest]

oh

[golden frigate]

a poxwalker has like 375HP

in damnation that is

[narrow crane]

I told my friends "dont worry fellas psyker blowing up one taps demonhosts" and boy were they in for a treat

[lime creek]

imagine if they add a difficulty above damnation and it replaces poxwlakers with plaguebearers

[fresh reef]

my b, first game of the day

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-explosion-cats-kaboom-gif-5543609305179444322

[plucky token]

People seriously undervalue the ability to sutnlock entire hordes including any specials that spawn.

[strong gulch]

Just filling this space with nonsense for a moment because that gif make my chest tight.

fsldfj

OLEJfos

Ojorjghjtldgj

osrugjdorjg

iorgjldjgljg

ikdflhgldf

[plucky token]

"But smite does no damage"

BITCH, I'M THE ONLY ONE CARRYING YOUR SORRY ASSES

[wise crest]

what level do i have to be to do heresy missions?

[gleaming sparrow]

you know you can turn gifs auto play off in the settings btw

[reef nacelle]

whats the difference between the mk's on dueling swords

[plucky token]

Attack pattern

[narrow crane]

they're different weapons, different attack animations, different stats

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the reminder! I do like the autoplay tho. 🥲

I'll look now. 👍

[plucky token]

Most people use the 4 or 5 Dueling Sword.

Not me though. Chainsword goes brrrrr

[lime creek]

I use force sword for sexy deflect

[hearty sedge]

I'm a huge fan of the (heavily) buffed mk1 cata sword

Run cleave on crit + damage on multihit. Just delete hordes.

Plus the parry now is actually useful (heavy stamina usage reduction)

[tough lake]

Rolled my first staff for my psyker

[rigid widget]

What perk should I swap, and what should I swap if for>?

[tough lake]

I'd do 10% more damage to elites

[rigid widget]

Swap the carapace damage or the specialist damage?

[feral verge]

Maniac

Maniac always priority

[rigid widget]

Over unyielding?

[feral verge]

On almost all weapons

Including force sword

[rigid widget]

Swap for which one then, Carapace or specialists?

[feral verge]

Over Carapace

[rigid widget]

Cheers

[feral verge]

Using illisi on carapace never gonna end well

Yw

[long wharf]

just ran a Heresy where a level 17 psyker spent more time fighting the horde with his duelling sword than assail

and after we killed the assassination target, he brings out a purge staff to kill three mobs.

[potent echo]

they're still learning

[modern island]

does empowered psyonics trigger off of a kinetic flayer trigger

[potent echo]

Probably

[modern island]

if im spamming my void staff charge attack and someones head pops will that head pop have empowered psyonics

[idle bay]

Just from Damnation Assasination 3 Psykers with Smite. It was a Rave party. And boss fight was 1:1 Zealot vs boss while 3 psyker stulocked everythiung else 🙂 Then i got bored and joined on boss as well

[modern island]

cause if so thats kinda busted no?

[potent echo]

It charges based on any kill

Psyker is pretty busted right now so everything feels pretty strong

[modern island]

yeah but im wondering if kinetic flayer triggers consume psionic stacks

[potent echo]

Oh you mean consume? Nah

Unless

[modern island]

like

that has to count right?

[potent echo]

Pretty quick to test in the meatgrinder but my money is on no

[modern island]

alright imma try it

ok empowered psionics head pop does 1336 damage

the unempowered version does 1036

im gonna try and trigger it off of my staff now

[long wharf]

the free BB from kinetic flayer is just that - a free BB

it shouldn't consume an EP charge

[modern island]

yes it triggers

no wait

[idle bay]

I love the reaction on 3 Smite Psykers in lobby. "Nope nope nope 5 FPS is not for me"

[modern island]

no it doesnt consume the charge

[modern island]

i wanna play 4 smite psyker stack personally

[idle bay]

It may crash the game. My archeotech PC barely handled 3 (it's 10 years old and plays Darktide on High)....

[primal aurora]

you play on Heresy, he plays on Damnation+

[modern island]

how close to a god roll would you say this is

[modest pasture]

If i am honest i am pretty happy with where everything is at right now in terms of power and variation. Obviously theres fixes here and there that need done. But really, really close to total satisfaction.

[long wharf]

doubtful, I was only on Heresy because I was playing with a friend leveling an alt

[primal aurora]

I think you missed the joke

[long wharf]

clearly

[idle bay]

I wonder why there were no "Ghostbusters" meme about 4 Smite Psykers?

[west smelt]

How's this as an emperor's reward?

[zinc phoenix]

Multiple smiter is really bad when a boss shows up

[reef nacelle]

why dont missions reward plasteel

[zinc phoenix]

Fatshark loathes us

And wants us to suffer

For being whiny

[primal aurora]

Full psyker team

[reef nacelle]

what is base damage of soul blaze?

[feral verge]

Lol

[idle bay]

Exactly like that 🙂

[modern island]

so wait

if the free BB doesnt trigger off of damage

when am i meant to use brain rupture

[late yew]

Trauma staff + smite

[modern island]

its kinda slow no?

[late yew]

what is?

[modern island]

brain rupture

[west smelt]

Depends on what talent tree you're using it with

[modern island]

empowered psyonics

[west smelt]

Once you get EP* bonuses, it's fast to charge up on a certain amount of enemies until you used them all up, after which it's now back to regular brain burst

[modern island]

right so

when should i use it

like on a boss

[west smelt]

Elites, like trappers, dogs, maulers, enemy ogryns and snipers

[magic vessel]

If you take the elite special one, you can chain kill them, it'll refund your EP

[west smelt]

Highest priority are snipers, trappers and dogs

[magic vessel]

i specifically do not use it on bosses though, poopoo damage

[mossy sundial]

how do i know if my weapon roll is good?

[magic vessel]

how deep into the loop are you?

Base Rating 370+ is considered great
Each weapon usually has a stat or 2 you don't give a shit if it's low
And ideall it has a blessing or perk that doesn't require changing since you only get 2 changes max on a weapon.

varies a lot weapon to weapon

[late yew]

what is base psyker shield now?

[long wharf]

no, trappers, dogs, and snipers are specialists

specialists are the enemies that spawn randomly/dynamically throughout the mission, and have an audio cue when they do

elites are the notable enemies that give kill messages that are placed in the level with other enemies in squads/groups

[narrow crane]

snipers have spawn audio?

[long wharf]

they might be the only ones that don't

[leaden mica]

mk 4 vs mk 5 dueling swords?

[long wharf]

4

[narrow crane]

4

[leaden mica]

that was quick lol

[late yew]

lol void stuff is dumb

What is base psyker tougheness

[frank moat]

I get 60 if I reset my skill tree

[late yew]

So vent ult pretty useless now?

better almost always take shield

[leaden mica]

as a amateur psyker, i disagree

lightning psyker here

[lime creek]

what should I replace here

[frank moat]

Some siblings still prefer to be able to quell on demand, and I think some use it for soulblaze purposes

Though I’m dome gang myself

[late yew]

??? what lightning has to do with ult

[native bolt]

Best perks for void strike?

[late yew]

flurry

or crit thing

[frank moat]

Surge

[late yew]

ah, perks

[frank moat]

O

[lime creek]

also, deflect blessing is on any forceword right?

[late yew]

i funno, may be flak

[leaden mica]

ult doesnt mean F ability?

[frank moat]

Deflect is on any of them yea

[lime creek]

okay

[late yew]

no, soulblaze damage meaningless

[frank moat]

Oh sorry I forgot there’s only one correct skill tree combination

[safe monolith]

snipers dont spawn dynamically

they spawn the same way elites do

not sure if they are considered elites or specialists, though, by the game engine

[snow rock]

disagree

[safe monolith]

"if it cant instantly kill a carapace ogryn its worthless!!!1!11!"

[frank moat]

Creature Spawner lists them as Elites for what that’s worth

[safe monolith]

yeah

i was considering for damage increase perks, whether they are considered elites or specialists

or for things like shock troop gauntlet

with increased specialists but not necessarily elites

[spice veldt]

they're specialists

[true lake]

i usually determine what is elite or specialist by what weapons they use

[spice veldt]

I'm pretty sure they do spawn the same way, but it's just that they're not always immediately aggro'd onto you

[safe monolith]

they spawn as elites

just like gunners and stufcv

[true lake]

if they use/do something other than a gun or melee they are most likely a specialist

[safe monolith]

or bulwarks

[frank moat]

Okay yea I tested a blue trauma staff M1 on a sniper’s ankle, Ranged Damage (Specialists) did more damage

[safe monolith]

sweet, good to hear

[true lake]

snipers are a weird case but tbh you dont really need extra specialist damage to get them lol

[safe monolith]

yeah true

you just need to be able to hit them

or say "throw a rock in that direction" to an ogryn

[true lake]

yeah lol

quickdraw is always fun to use against them

with my assail build i have trouble even with my void staff, they take a while to travel over

rn im mainly trying to build up resources to try out some other builds

wanted to give mk iv dueling and devils claw a try

[eager token]

are blessings shared between all the staves or nah

[true lake]

sadly not

if you want a blessing for one staff you need to get it on that specific staff's tree

[eager token]

dang

unlucky

[true lake]

which is stupid due to them all having pretty much the same blessings

[eager token]

got a t4 warp flurry on surge

[plucky flax]

That's op.

Surge staff goated.

[true lake]

nice

[late yew]

ok, i start to prefer warp charges over psionics

[true lake]

if you can keep warp charges up consistently they perform better generally

psionics is just no brain power needed

[late yew]

they are easy to keep up

ok, trauma staff also amazing

especially with warp charges

which add both damage and reduce peril generation

Really good combo of dueling sword + trauma + assail

dueling sword for ragers and crushers and maulers

assail for shooters and far away targets

trauma for everything else

[frank moat]

I still hate Quicken

Hoping they’ll make it a keystone modifier instead some day

[late yew]

what is that?

[frank moat]

Warp Charges dump your stacks when you use an ability, like Quicken did pre-patch 13

[late yew]

Ah ,that

eh

they are so easy to get back now

Just 1 group of elites + assail

= isntant 6 stacks

[frank moat]

Yea but I’ve got my dome shield every 20 seconds

[late yew]

but damn, trauma feels so good to use

I am not even sure if it is that much weaker than void

Btw

why the hell dome shield isntantly ready to be used again

[frank moat]

Warp Charges bug

[late yew]

Should it not only get 45% cdr

[frank moat]

If you have 1 charge it makes shield free

[late yew]

and quicken does absolutely nothing for scrier gaze

it does not reduce its cooldown at all

[true lake]

trauma is a bit better against hordes, void is more single target from my experience

[cold oasis]

yeah nah

Void is busted atm

[frank moat]

The most difficult part of playing Psyker is figuring out a build that doesn’t have bugs or exploits

[true lake]

maybe but it still doesnt really chew through hordes that quickly

[clear heath]

it chews through hordes pretty quickly if you have crit every 5 weakspots + surge blessing

you just end up hitting 5 weakspots every attack and critting every attack in hordes

[slim lily]

Yo guys which sword is the best for mutants

[true lake]

for mutants, mk iv duelling one shots them

if you aim for the head

[limber heath]

deimos also should but mk4 is so easy to use

and deimos oneshot is... slow

[true lake]

deimos takes a bit and requires you to time the charge and also charge a heavy attack

mk iv is just aim and thrust

[slim lily]

Oki

[late yew]

loooooool

yeah, my favorite build is smite + surge + empowered psionics

bug with psionics what makes it fun

[slim lily]

Using mk5 but tbh it just so low to kill mutants 😦

[true lake]

psyker try to make a build that doesnt get your lobby angry at you challenge

[mossy sundial]

hmmm what're the best weapon combos available to us psykers rn?

i just made a pretty good mk4 dueling sword and im using a voidstrike staff with it

[lament sonnet]

so is it a good buy ?

[mossy sundial]

damn where did you find that

[slim lily]

What about power swords? Are there good ones for mutants?

[next heart]

Is that with maniac damage?

[slim lily]

Kinda want the deflector blessing

[true lake]

not sure because i never used it, but maniac damage helps

i just know it has the capability of one shotting mutants

[mossy sundial]

how do you buy transcendants with tier 4 blessings? i never see them in the store

[frank moat]

Deimos is the only one that’ll help you headshot stab muties, though I don’t think you can do it unbufffed

[lament sonnet]

it poped for me at melks store

[true lake]

tbh i just charge my void staff and shoot them in the face when they get close

[frank moat]

Even with 6 warp charges I leave a damnation mutie on like 100 hp

[true lake]

then just watch them ragdoll on top of me

[sonic gale]

hows this?

[slim lily]

I m running purge staff so mutants are truly the headache for me

This can’t one shot 😦 should I got a better instead?

After bb

[mossy sundial]

which does more single target dmg, voidstrike or trauma

[lament sonnet]

void can headshot

[next heart]

I can confirm that mk4 dueling sword oneshots mutants with some damage buffs of some kind

[acoustic osprey]

is fire trauma still good?

[next heart]

Can't confirm without buffs

[spice veldt]

vstrike

[mossy sundial]

ok cool then i dont need more adclear than assail

god DAMN how am i out of diamantite and plasteel AGAIN already

[true lake]

yeah after update i always seem low on materials

feels like everything is more hungry for it

[mossy sundial]

everything is incredibly expensive

[lime creek]

thoughts lads?

[true lake]

feels like missions give me next to no plasteel anymore

i did a level 4 mission and all i got was like 135 plasteel

[mossy sundial]

seems wonderful to me, you can modify the tier 3 blessing and the maniac dmg if you want

[lime creek]

hmmm to what?

[slim lily]

Oki yea dueling sword definitely feel better than power sword

[lime creek]

also unarmored enemies dmg is it good? since it one shots unarmored lads any ways

[true lake]

diamantine i never had an issue because i dont use it much at all anyway, i dont like upgrading things to transcendant just to maybe get the max level blessing i want on my other weapon

[slim lily]

Sadly can’t use the deflactar blessing to block range gunners 😦

[broken pollen]

@lime creek did u ever figure out what the best blessings were for the deimos

it's pain to find them in the channel using search

[spice veldt]

at least in my case, I seem to be net neutral on diamantine

[lime creek]

I did not

[spice veldt]

i'm hovering around the same amount whenever i splurge my plasteel

[frank moat]

I thought it’s only snipers you can’t block with Deflector?

[broken pollen]

i heard uncanny is great on deimos

[slim lily]

It’s good to run stamina curios?

[lime creek]

alright

[true lake]

for deimos i run slaughterer to allow it to chew through hordes just as easily as anything else

[spice veldt]

if you're not running kinetic deflection, then sure

[broken pollen]

unstable/slaughterer/deflector + uncanny are good combos

for deimos

[lime creek]

btw between maniac perk adn unarmoured perk for voidstrike staff. Which one should I replace and with what?

[true lake]

deflector always a nice choice too

replace unarmored, voidstrike already decimates anything unarmored anyway

[frank moat]

Uncanny Deimos gains stacks with every damage tick if you special someone in the dome

[lime creek]

would u suggest carpace then?

[true lake]

i would but depends on your blessings

[lime creek]

warp nexus and warp flurry

but prob gonna switch out warp nexus

[true lake]

should be fine with carapace then

im still a pro-ponent of surge blessing and nexus

[lime creek]

gotcha gotcha

[true lake]

but flurry nice to spam it out

[lime creek]

and for bosses which perk wa sthat one?

yeah hehe my thoughts exactly

[true lake]

i think bosses count as unyielding? not entirely sure thought

[lime creek]

okay cus im split between bos dmg and carpace dmg

[true lake]

i know unyielding counts as enemies you cants actually knock on to their ass

just not sure if bosses count as that too or not

[slim lily]

It’s mk4 good against crushers?

[spice veldt]

all monstrosities are Unyielding

[slim lily]

Is it?

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

(i'm somewhat cheating in this footage because I have both +carapace/+elite, and I would not typically run +elite anymore nowadays)
w/o +elite and only +carapace, a crit + normal weakspot will just barely miss out on a crusher two-shot by a 1-10 damage if you don't have a little extra peril from Warp Rider

[cold oasis]

Fuck me, Psykers really are the utter trash player magnet this patch

[true lake]

wat

[cold oasis]

If they run Assail, 90% of them are just trash

[worldly chasm]

[true lake]

oh, yeah im not a big fan of people who run assail at their one and only weapon

[cold oasis]

Fuck me, i wish they did that

[true lake]

i wouldnt call them trash but it isnt really cool to use assail as your only weapon

[cold oasis]

i had two god damn assail in team

they did absolutely nothing somehow

[lime creek]

but is so much fun/ Then I switch to staff for carpace and force sword if im sorrunded or outta crystals

[true lake]

probably had their stuff set up bad

[cold oasis]

I honest to fucking christ, do not understand how both of them were last in dps.

That wasn't even a setup problem

it's like Vets pre-patch

[true lake]

assail only shines when there are hordes, they shouldnt be using it everywhere lol

[cold oasis]

People think "oh it's such an easy class"

and by god, they can't even press 1 button.

The fuck you going on about, you can go with assail out 95% of the time

and still be first in literally everything

[dawn wolf]

I like using the dart mode on gunner lines

[true lake]

not really, it does jack shit against armor

[cold oasis]

95%.

[true lake]

also very slow to do things about tanky unarmored enemies like mutants

also kind of sucks with dealing with specials from range like bombers or snipers due to the travel speed

[cold oasis]

???????

[frank moat]

I like having Assail as pocket horde clear since my two favourite weapons are Deimos FS and a revolver, but I also keep a Purgatus / Smite build ready to go just so I’m not forcing my team to suffer through dual Assail Psyker comps

[dawn wolf]

Shouldn't you be charged heavy attacking those anyway?

[cold oasis]

They don't even spawn

[lime creek]

it isn't hard to switch to staff for armored enemies and then back to assail. It is def the coolest ability in the game which is why it attracks so much players

[true lake]

should be but that doesnt stop some psykers i have seen spamming assail at them

[lime creek]

if u aim it its great agaisnt them

[cold oasis]

Honest to christ

these last two psyker i had

i WISH they used Assail on armoered targets

would've been better.

[true lake]

what were their other weapons lol

[cold oasis]

Dead?

I honestly do not know what the fuck were both doing

[lucid horizon]

bros playing in his ps1

[true lake]

if they were that bad then clearly whatever their weapons were didnt account for the shortcomings of assail

[cold oasis]

"Do not rush" they said, after camping the first objective for 3 minutes after we were at the third one.

The problem as i said, is that Assail is like Vets pre-patch, people just pick them because they're the FOTM

When honestly, they should play just Malice.

[true lake]

i think its just the players man, not assail

[spice veldt]

if it works, it works

[true lake]

i have played higher difficulty just fine with assail lol

[cold oasis]

Assail is busted beyond belief

that's not the problem

[spice veldt]

the game gave them the tools to immediately jump to higher difficulties and they're gonna use that shit

[true lake]

i wouldnt call it busted, maybe in need of slight nerf but not really busted

[spice veldt]

Assail is what happens if you forget to balance out the ease of use for a weapon (which is why I was never a fan of discussions on buffs to Brain Burst)

[true lake]

now infinite use smite is busted lol

[cold oasis]

Random ass Assail t5 i did yesterday

assail is just busted beyond belief

[clear heath]

smite just kills my framerate

[true lake]

its only "busted" when there are hordes

[cold oasis]

The worst part is, i don't even know how the fuck you even balance it

[true lake]

and even then you need to quell peril very often

[spice veldt]

just nerf the ammo

[clear heath]

charge rate/stack cap nerfs

[cold oasis]

Nah, it would have to be CD

[true lake]

tbh if assail just had a lower ammo count it would be not overused

[cold oasis]

But then, if you go too hard on it, it becomes trash

[spice veldt]

assail is more fun as a quickswap weapon

[molten prawn]

Assail just slaughters groups of gunners and that's massive thing

[spice veldt]

there's no need for it to be able to be a primary weapon, but there's no need to put a long cooldown on it something

[true lake]

also you guys probably need to stop basing stuff purely on that modded stats screen

[spice veldt]

a simple ammo and regen nerf would let it stay as a quickswap weapon

[cold oasis]

That game was 99.9% of the time using assail and nothing else

[spice veldt]

oh ok then I'll judge it based on my own eyes of being able to kill an entire special wave and ranged patrols (except for reapers)

250 base damage and 100% adm against maniac btw

[true lake]

i only use assail as a way to quickly deal with things such as hound modifier or especially annoying gunner packs

[cold oasis]

Yeah, you shouldn't. You should just spam it

[spice veldt]

and assail can benefit from blessings on your other weapons

[cold oasis]

Atm it does everything

[true lake]

id rather play the game lol

[cold oasis]

... that i can accept

[true lake]

its a blitz ability and i see it as it should be used like a grenade

[spice veldt]

i love using op shit

[true lake]

use it for annoying ass hordes or something and then switch to actual stuff

[spice veldt]

i swapped to bolter vet 2 months before the skill tree update

[cold oasis]

Honestly, i spam it just because it's fun as fuck seeing the shards fly around :v

[true lake]

it do be fun to watch the shards ye

[spice veldt]

i don't mind blitzes having more of a role than ranged weapons (e.g., pre-patch with BB being heavily used for specials)

[cold oasis]

heavily used?

[spice veldt]

at least for me

[cold oasis]

It didn't (and doesn't) have any other use :v

[spice veldt]

I never used my trauma

[true lake]

im perfectly fine with it and i feel most of the people complaining about assail dont see some of the actual problems with some of the new things

[spice veldt]

except for crusher patrols or for when I was surrounded

[cold oasis]

You kill specials with it, cool. And hoped to christ vets didn't just steal all the kills

[olive ember]

Are we discussing how broken assail is again? (It’s not)

[spice veldt]

I only complain about it because I use it personally so that's what I know

[cold oasis]

kek

[spice veldt]

and because a lot of people like to defend Assail for some reason

[cold oasis]

I mean, honestly, it's like people saying Smoke Grenades of the Vets are trash

[true lake]

eh, i feel the only real thing with it is how easy it is to never run out of ammo if you just use psionics

[cold oasis]

And i'm here, wondering what the fuck are they doing

[true lake]

and quelling peril is so quick it hardly becomes an issue if you time it

[cold oasis]

Fuck using EP with assail, just use warp charges

[spice veldt]

yeah, being able tos apm it is the main problem

no damage falloff so assail is the weapon to basically use while you're running through a map to kill everything ahead first

[true lake]

it needs like a lower ammo count and thats it really

[spice veldt]

and slower regen

my idea is 3 max shards and >4 second regen

[cold oasis]

The problem is always the same, you nerf it even a bit too much

and it's utter trash

[true lake]

slower regen not really, or else you would make it completely useless

[spice veldt]

nah

[cold oasis]

yeah, at that point it's DD version 2

[olive ember]

3 max shards is trash bruh

Make it like 6

[cold oasis]

Why would you use that over just using BB

[spice veldt]

a single shard can hit 3 targets with Ethereal Shards

[true lake]

like i get it being easy to spam now, but if you lower it too much it would be pretty much pointless to bring

[cold oasis]

Like, it's mechanically problematic to nerf it

[spice veldt]

it still fills a role as a quickswap weapon that synergizes with psyker's talents particularly well

[frank moat]

Yea I’m really hoping FS doesn’t go overboard with nerfing it

[cold oasis]

If you nerf the damage and nothing else, the situation really doesn't change

[spice veldt]

and being an Uninterruptible weapon that is especially good at proccing Soulstealer

[cold oasis]

If you reduce the amount, honestly nothing really changes

[true lake]

the damage isnt really the problem, its mainly how it takes a lot of buffs from blessings on weapons

[olive ember]

https://reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/7HXh3rnVma

This tells you all you need

[true lake]

and is a guaranteed weak spot hit

[cold oasis]

If you reduce the CD too much, then it's gonna be extremely weird

[frank moat]

It’s overtuned for sure, especially the lower in difficulty you are, but it’s still the most fun I’ve had with Psyker in a year

[cold oasis]

I mean, it's busted everywhere

even in Auric

[spice veldt]

the thing is that Assail can be used and then immediately swapped to your other weapons

so you have to take account of the extremely low opportunity cost that Assail has

it's not like Smite or BB where you can't use other weapons while they're in use

you are actionable 0.19s after swapping to it

and the second shard comes out after 0.33s

you are strongly incentivized to throw out two shards and then swap back to your other weapons

[frank moat]

You don’t need to remind me that Redditors are shitters, my sibling, ||I am one||

[plucky flax]

Nerf everything just don't touch my trauma and surge.

[olive ember]

My man talking bout fucking opportunity cost

In a horde shooter

I just click and things die and i happy

[true lake]

i just feel if they slightly lowered the ammo count assail has it would make running out of ammo a little more common and naturally push people into wanting to use their weapons a bit more

[spice veldt]

DD for derpy darcy

[true lake]

if you lower it too much or ruin the damage too much, people will just not use assail at all because it would actively not be worth it anymore

[spice veldt]

not just "slightly"

[ornate hamlet]

Hello. 🙂 Me and my husband started playing Darktide today and I began with as a Psyker. I find Venting Shreak a bit boring and want to make a build around Scier's Gaze when I have all the skillpoints.

My question is if the Assail skill can critically strike?

[spice veldt]

10 shards is a lot to burst through

[spice veldt]

yup, it can crit and hit weakspots

[clear heath]

I think they could either lower the max ammo and recharge a little, or lower the recharge a lot

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you very much. That is great.

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't touch Assail's damage

[true lake]

ok but if you make it 3 shards what the hell would be the point of using it if you would only kill like 10 basic horde enemies before running out of ammo

[clear heath]

i don't even run the charge speed talent for assail and it still feels spammy

[plucky flax]

Bring back op bolter and sustain fire to take the heat away from assail.

[spice veldt]

because it shouldn't be used for hordeclear...?

what is this perspective

[cold oasis]

Skrier Gaze isn't that great honestly. You best bet is the Barrier with the Bubble upgrade, it's probably the strongest utility skill in the game

[spice veldt]

remember that Assail has a target limit

[true lake]

and the other blitz abilites people got in other classes arent horde clear either? you can literally clear a huge amount of hordes with other blitz, why should assail be that different

[spice veldt]

it will hit three groaners, but it will also hit three gunners/ragers/etc.

[cold oasis]

Is the target limit the fact that there are no more mobs on the screen?

[ornate hamlet]

Skrier's Gaze looks so strong and interesting on paper. I was confused why everyone is so against it.

[cold oasis]

Btw, i don't even know if people realize it with Assail, but you aim that shit

[spice veldt]

the problem with scrier's gaze is that you might spend more time quelling than you are making use of the buff

[clear heath]

if it stays capable of killing a horde, the recharge should be slow enough that you can't just use it for every horde mindlessly

[olive ember]

@spice veldt look all I know is that the last time I had to talk about opportunity costs it was for an economics class

[plucky flax]

It's hard to play these guys just aren't skilled enough don't worry play it if you want.

[spice veldt]

you can make scrier's gaze work, but I'd rather just use a different ult

[cold oasis]

even if there's a horde between you and gunners, if you aim with your mouse at the gunners behind the horde, the assail will go to that

[olive ember]

You an Econ major?

[clear heath]

it's not like ogryn is throwing the horde nuke grenade like every wave

[spice veldt]

die

[olive ember]

Denial is the first step

[rocky osprey]

in your guy's opinion, this charge rate too low for a trauma staff?

[true lake]

i wanted scrier's gaze to be a bit more useful but it just felt pointless

charge rate definitely needs a bit more

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's bad very rip.

[true lake]

if you plan on using the secondary a lot

[cold oasis]

The Peril generation is honestly excessive, and the damage it gives you is usually useless, since our staves deal so much damage anyway. Plus you easily risk killing yourself with peril explosion by not paying attention at random :p

[spice veldt]

it's for the non-force weapon tree, but that also interferes with the use of Assail

[olive ember]

Wat I have a 60 charge rate trauma and it works just fine

[gleaming sparrow]

for the fire trauma build, which is the second blessing you need?

[spice veldt]

cuz you're derpy

[cold oasis]

The problem with using non-force weapons with Scrier Gaze is that you need to go insane managing the paril

Or just doing absolutely nothing for 30 second just quellin and then using a 10 second buff

[spice veldt]

and not having a force staff for better quelling

which is quite ironic

[cold oasis]

Charge rate and britleness imho

[plucky flax]

That sucks so bad.

[cold oasis]

Oh you said fire traum

fuck that

[gleaming sparrow]

lol

[olive ember]

smh

[spice veldt]

i'm personally a crackhead who relies on True Aim for crits

[ornate hamlet]

I am not high enough level to unlock it yet. Sad to hear it heats up so fast. Even when you have the peril slowdown from killing?

[olive ember]

my trauma is great

i hate you guys ;-;

[spice veldt]

yeah, since the peril generation ramps up over time

[olive ember]

fucking opportunity cost calculating smh

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirits and warp nexus

[eager spruce]

Just got my Psyker to 30, should I get this Staff for stealing the Blessing or nah?

[olive ember]

eh

transfer peril is aight but it goes up to t4 anyways

[rocky osprey]

also eh

[gleaming sparrow]

ty

[cold oasis]

You rarely get enough kills to quell it/slow it unfortunately, you usually activate it, cast like 3 assail or 3 staff attacks, and then you find yourself just quelling at max rate. Again, you can always try it, it's nice testing stuff

[true lake]

terrifying barrage is kind of useless when most of everyone ends up suppressing enemies without even trying

[eager spruce]

@olive ember Yeah I was wondering if I just just wait for a T4

[cold oasis]

But honestly, the best way i used Scrier Gaze was for a full melee Psyker

[proud mantle]

are there any viable scrier's gaze builds? The only things i can think of are voidstrike with quell or guns, but haven't really seend any in action

[cold oasis]

and just use it like a speed up during hordes

[ornate hamlet]

Oh. 😦 I see why nobody uses it then.

[rocky osprey]

if you're loaded on milkbucks go for it otherwise if you're patient just farm for blues, terrifying barrage isn't as good on voidstrike iirc

but transfer peril is fun

[cold oasis]

And honest to god, i really did try my best and making Scrier Gaze work with ANY build

it was just shit 99% of the time

[eager spruce]

yeah would have gotten it for the transfer but only T3

[cold oasis]

Honestly, if the Peril generation wasn't that aggressive, and kills actually reduced it/stopped it completely for 2/3 seconds

it would be fun at least to use

[true lake]

i just like Venting Shriek because it is funny to yell at a horde and watch a bunch of them keel over and die

[proud mantle]

yeah i feel the same, just a speed up in a scenario where it isn't needed and gives a chance to blow up

[cold oasis]

Bubble is far too important

[rocky osprey]

I actually like Scrier's with my Voidstrike +Surge/T.Peril. During hordes it feels good popping double meatballs all the time but idk i feel like it could be better too

[cold oasis]

You really do not need double meatballs

[rocky osprey]

T.Peril mitigates the peril gains significantly but it's literally the same crit chance as warp nexus lmao

[eager spruce]

Well thx everyone for the input, much appreciated.

[cold oasis]

Like, i tried everything

[rocky osprey]

eh i like it lol!

[cold oasis]

Assail, all the spells, even guns

you just get too much peril

[plucky flax]

What level is your psyker daiug?

[cold oasis]

and don't quell enough of it from kills

like 270? xd

it's my main

god knows how many levels over 30 i got

[plucky flax]

You seem veri pro maybe you're top 0.5%

[cold oasis]

Nah, just got too free time

[spice veldt]

shush

[plucky flax]

Me noob me bad me sedition player

[true lake]

i mean scrier you are meant to keep it up and use it to chew through hordes, but when you already chew through hordes normally it seems kind of counter intuitive other than getting high peril for extra damage

[cold oasis]

^

And exploding at random

Like, honestly, the best used i found was just using on a melee build with quell on kill during hordes

click it, go broom broom, and have fun

[ornate hamlet]

It actually deals damage? The base version I have seems to do absolutely nothing and it does not even stagger anything bigger than horde mobs. 😄

[cold oasis]

But then you lose Bubble, and i feel shitty not running bubble for the team

[true lake]

Venting Shriek has a modifier that makes it do like 200 damage if you use it at high peril

or apply burning stacks but i prefer straight damage because i dont have a burn build

[cold oasis]

Venting Strike does absolutely nothing on Auric tho

[spice veldt]

psykinetic's wrath/venting shriek scales their stagger based on the amount of peril you have

[cold oasis]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't even kill trash

(without the burn)

[ornate hamlet]

What's meatball even?

[true lake]

i never really play auric so im fine

[cold oasis]

Voidstrike

[true lake]

auric gets a little too wacky for me

[cold oasis]

There's a talent where if you crit you throw two balls

Oh, i only play auric :v

[true lake]

especially the monstrosity modifier where almost everything just becomes a monstrosity

[gleaming sparrow]

whats your favourite build for auric?

[slim lily]

What blessings should be run on voidstirke?

And perks?

Gracias

[cold oasis]

Assail kek

[gleaming sparrow]

lol

[spice veldt]

do the pro strat of Change Operative > Zealot to play monstrosity maelstroms

[plucky flax]

Try surge smite it's op for carrying.

[cold oasis]

Honestly, it's always charged time reduced

[true lake]

carapace damage for perks, blessings i prefer nexus and surge because it makes the chance for surge proc better

[cold oasis]

then the double ball if you go crit

or whatever else for non crit

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is one of the strongest too.

[cold oasis]

... please

[gleaming sparrow]

daiug doesnt want to see the world burn

[cold oasis]

I really do fucking hate soulflame

[ornate hamlet]

Assail only works against horde enemies, or? We play on the third difficulty and I already find it unreliable. 😮

[cold oasis]

On auric it does absolutely nothing

[slim lily]

So only one perk is important?

[spice veldt]

are you using a force sword with it?

[true lake]

if you plan on using it for crits, then yeah carapace is the most you really need

[plucky flax]

Interesting take.

[spice veldt]

if you're holding a force sword out while the shards are out in the air, it breaks its targeting because of shenanigans

[true lake]

other perk can be almost anything

[slim lily]

Oki!

[cold oasis]

What level are you?

[spice veldt]

the shards also need to be mildly aimed

[cold oasis]

Honestly, the easiest way to make assail damage is getting the two buffs, the 10% damage node and Warp Charges

[slim lily]

Thx

[true lake]

maybe make other perk higher change of crit

[ornate hamlet]

I use the duelling sword. I saw everyone use that. What are the benefits of the force sword?

[true lake]

just up to you really

[cold oasis]

at that point you just point and click and everythign melts

[plucky flax]

Rip all my soulblaze build time to delete my gears.

[spice veldt]

nowadays, its advantage is having the Unstable Power and Deflector blessings

[ornate hamlet]

11 I think.

[cold oasis]

Oh, yeah probably it's just missing some talents xd

[gleaming sparrow]

back to assail with the

[spice veldt]

the Illisi has a special that you'll more often use, and the deimos can be described as a worse MK4 Duelling Sword

[frank moat]

Force Sword has infinite dodges too, and personally I just like that it feels more space wizard-y than a rapier

[cold oasis]

I mean, you can love soulblaze, it's fine

But it's not a "oh it's op wtfbbq"

[plucky flax]

Hrmmmmm

[spice veldt]

soulblaze is mediocre but its application methods are quite cracked

god bless perilous combustion

[magic vessel]

should i let it rip or delete it before hedron crushes my will to live?

[cold oasis]

Like, sure Purgatus is a fun staff

But god damn if in actual gameplay it's shit

[ornate hamlet]

I find the Rapier a bit unappealing, but I can't deny its ease of use. Is a force sword as efficient? I struggle to do anything against bulkier targets with the rapier.

[spice veldt]

🤔

[spice veldt]

you'll prob want the Uncanny Strike blessing on it if you don't have that

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[cold oasis]

Anything that's too far away you can't do shit and need to have your team deal with it, and hordes at this point are pretty much non important, so having a weapon that melts that feels underpowered

[gleaming sparrow]

ive been using an assail voidstrike shield build which has been working for me, ive only just started doing damnation though so

[spice veldt]

sure, hordes are a meme nowadays, but the purg is still good against the same things that assail are

[cold oasis]

No.

My man no.

[spice veldt]

i don't get why the purg/flamer are always seen as weapons only for hordes

[cold oasis]

You ain't purging a room full of gunners.

[spice veldt]

yes you are?

especially with the toughness regen that you now have

and empathic evasion lol

[plucky flax]

Watch the kill feed this soul blaze build seems okay
https://youtu.be/9e0oBfL4nqo?t=5m11s

[ornate hamlet]

Can Assail deal with priority targets on high difficulties once you have all the buffs?

[true lake]

with wildfire, you can easily destroy hordes still with purgatus, that hasnt changed

[spice veldt]

pretty much deals with anything that doesn't have carapace or innately high HP

[cold oasis]

You can pretty much solo the map alone with Assail

[limber heath]

Yea. Assuming the priority targets aren't crushers

[cold oasis]

all you need is a Voidstrike/Surge/Trauma staff for Carapace enemies (the crushers, and the other guys with heavy armor)

[late yew]

or monster

[ornate hamlet]

This is nice. 😮

[spice veldt]

(i'm somewhat cheating in this footage because I have both +carapace/+elite, and I would not typically run +elite anymore nowadays)
w/o +elite and only +carapace, a crit + normal weakspot will just barely miss out on a crusher two-shot by a 1-10 damage if you don't have a little extra peril from Warp Rider (gives damage based on your peril)

[ornate hamlet]

Something tells me Assail will soon be nerfed into non existence.

[true lake]

got to get that warp rider

[late yew]

just reduce shard recharge rate by like 30%

and it will be fine

[cold oasis]

Oh almost assuredly

[spice veldt]

there are playtesters nowadays, so I'm somewhat optimistic for the balance

[true lake]

given how FS buffed the absolute hell out of void, i have worries they will over nerf assail and make it useless

[late yew]

may be also reduce max amount to 6-8

[spice veldt]

since we are on an early build, and updates are being delayed by xbox certs

hopefully the playtesters caught assail quickly enough for stuff to be in the next patch

[cold oasis]

Oh 100%

i still want my free aquila è_è

Or i'll keep clutching my pearls

[late yew]

reminds me of Doomfist in Overwatch

First he was trash

[true lake]

i just want actually cool psyker cosmetics, most of the premium ones suck ass

[late yew]

then they overbuffed him SLIGHTLY

[true lake]

the only ones i grabbed were the trader hat and one of the rebreathers

[frank moat]

Can’t wait for assail to be nerfed and I can be flamed by pubs for running it when it’s sub-par instead of OP

[ornate hamlet]

It would be sad, because Smite does negative damage and only offers crowd control. And heat popping feels so incredibly slow.

[late yew]

and then nerfed him to state WORSE than he was before buff

[plucky flax]

Soul blaze still good
#psyker-class message

[cold oasis]

Smite is great, but not that much at lower difficulties

[late yew]

it is absolutely fine

Your allies can't kill all targets you stun with smite quick enough

[true lake]

smite is fine it just needs to have its secondary infinite use time fixed when paired with psionics

[late yew]

so you get like half of them

[cold oasis]

The reason smite is great is that you can pretty much chain stagger ANYTHING forever (even without using the EP bug)

[late yew]

yes, smite is great

[true lake]

because i refuse to believe that literally infinite smite stun was intentional

[cold oasis]

100% bug

But honestly, just use right click with smite

it's just the old lightning staff but on crack

[ornate hamlet]

Won't Psyker be the worst when Assail is gone? The other 2 Blitzes seems too slow and weak for the pace of the game.

[late yew]

LOL

so funny i have no reply for this

[cold oasis]

BB while not in Auric is still great (there are too many targets for it in Auric imho)

Smite is literally the best supportive ability in the ame

[plucky flax]

Yeah psyker will need big buffs.

[ornate hamlet]

Then all we have is Voidstrike staff, or?

[cold oasis]

Trauma is fine too

[ornate hamlet]

I will probably end up surrendering and just play full support bot when Assail and/or Voidstrike gets nerfed. 😄 I will put everything into my teammate's hands.