psyker-class

[arctic citrus]

ah fair enough

ill give it a try

[spice veldt]

it got a bit too good of a glowup this round

[arctic citrus]

Psycer got a bit too gud of a glowup this round

[spice veldt]

I personally don't use it cuz I don't really like projectile weapons like vstrike that are slow-firing

[spice veldt]

TRUUE

[arctic citrus]

honestly tho im happy hes good now was so bad on release

vetren outclassed him so hard

[acoustic seal]

Guess this is a good roll for later.

[arctic citrus]

yea fs personaly im a big fan of the focused chanaling for dealing with hords

but assail does a good job at that anyway

[acoustic seal]

I started with Psyker but everything I was doing felt wrong. Like I wasn't doing enough except my infinite lightning support.

Plus I couldn't earn the head gears so I was getting a bit annoyed lol

[atomic zephyr]

Not really. The burn is low. On a purg staff you want high burn like 77+? And high cloud. The dmg is not exactly the dump stat, but the burn is what applies the number of ticks. The more ticks, the more damage.

Warp and quell just allows you to spam more

[acoustic seal]

I'll remember thanks!

[hearty sedge]

Damage got pretty insanely buffed this patch, it isn't a dump like before. I mean, it still is, just not as much.

[bleak tulip]

warp resist is the only true dump stat, simply keep killing

with solidity so easily available you should just take it on every build which makes quelling pretty fast regardless

[royal granite]

you can dump quell speed too

you only need one tool with decent quell speed

and if you have the 33% faster quelling perk, you don't need good quell speed on anything

[arctic citrus]

honestly that thing is nuts

[royal granite]

i take it on every build

[steel flame]

sounds like a skill issue

[arctic citrus]

ive got my build earlier in the convo

honestly like the left bottom tree much more then the mid bottom

emopowered is overrated af

unless ur doing electric ave build

then its good there

[zinc phoenix]

So what are people doing for curio primary these days? I run 3x 20% hp, but is there other stuff people do?

Secondary attributes I think I have 3x gunners resist and 3x toughness regen but that seems obvious

[acoustic seal]

I'm running 2 hp 1 toughness

Stamina regen mandatory

[arctic citrus]

i like 2 20 hp and 1 would on psy just in case u get a brain anurism

wound*

[acoustic seal]

This is what I was recommended when I started.

[bleak tulip]

stam regen is pointless for psyker when you get to this boy

[arctic citrus]

i dont realy like block eff unless im running deflction tbh

otherwise u dont use it much

esp when u have assail

[zinc phoenix]

This is not good advice

[zinc phoenix]

It’s nice for sprinting maybe

[bleak tulip]

just slide 😎

[acoustic seal]

I don't block except on Zealot so it tends to not be useful for me to take.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah pretty much

[bleak tulip]

but yeah stam gets really pointless later and block is just bad period

[zinc phoenix]

W u t

[lethal raptor]

I like kinetic deflection for picking up friendlies

[zinc phoenix]

KinD is handy for all sorts of stuff

[lethal raptor]

half the time they're swamped by poxwalkers

[zinc phoenix]

Boss tanking, mob stuff, pairing with deflector

[acoustic seal]

I tend to rarely use my melee. I either am helping kill or stunning everything with lightning.

[zinc phoenix]

Imo the toughness regen speed is so clutch on Damnation+

[acoustic seal]

Also as stated I'm extremely new so maybe it'll engrain in the future.

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, well for you I’d recommend trying hp, a wounds and mandatory 3x gunner res

You’ll find gunner res makes you massively more durable

[arctic citrus]

gunner and sniper res

[zinc phoenix]

Toughness regen makes a huge diff

Imo toughness regen >>> sniper res

[acoustic seal]

I'll remember and replace stamina regen with toughness.

[zinc phoenix]

Because psyker durability is all about losing and gaining toughness thru peril

We don’t have toughness DR to the same extent as other classes

So speeding that process up is imo crucial

[acoustic seal]

I'm guessing prioritize targets and power up I'll need different builds to complete eventually.

I quite like that head gear.

[languid tusk]

sooo best perks for surge ? flak carapace ?

does carapace give you any breakpoints on crushers ?

otherwise i might take infested to oneshot poxbursters and hounds

[zinc phoenix]

Surge already stuns the hounds and you shouldn’t be surging pox bursters 😂

It’s there to delete special and elite, you want to use illsi or some other horde clear melee for pox boys

[bleak tulip]

when in doubt flak and maniac

[zinc phoenix]

Only reason I surge the poxies is to get peril

[light belfry]

what perks are best for void

[zinc phoenix]

Surge is such good peril eco

[light belfry]

finally got me surge blessing

[bleak tulip]

flak maniac or arguably crit if youre running right side talent tree

[zinc phoenix]

May as well do the fun thing and go hard on crit

[bleak tulip]

I think you dont really need carapace for breakpoints on void

and uhh

yeah

nothing else really

[verbal bear]

elp I know someone literally just asked but I got 1 perk change what do

weakspot to crit or maniac ig

[light belfry]

gonna just keep the thing i got surge on for now and upgrade in the future if i feel like it

almost the funny 550

[severe folio]

so, do we have any tips regarding how to play with the psyker melee options

force sword, chainsword, duel sword and devil sword

like, their niche and all

[silent coral]

what perks do you want on voidstrike now? Flak + carpace?

[severe folio]

i want to look at the guide pinned in the channel but the date seem, outdated

[zinc phoenix]

They’re all fun, but skip the oscurus and I think the mk2 dueling sword

[lethal raptor]

Does surge work on secondary attack?

[silent coral]

yes

[light belfry]

i have been told and i have seen it in action

[severe folio]

any reason why skipping that dueling sword, i though thats the one with the wide strike option

[light belfry]

so i havent played with devils claw on psyker yet but ive used it a ton on vet n zealot, it can get insane cleave and the parry is a really good defensive and offensive tool

it fucks up ragers and it can help you kill other stuff if you get good wtih it if slowly

the main issue i see with it is the best psyker shit right now shits out hordeclear anyway

so theres less reason

[severe folio]

i see

[light belfry]

but if you dont get good hordeclear from your staff or your blitz then its sick chaff killer and defensive sidearm to help when ragers run past your friends

[zinc phoenix]

The mk4 is really good, super high damage. One of the others is just bad and a bait but I always forget which

[light belfry]

speaking of the mk4

[severe folio]

the mk2 is the only one with vanguard heavy attack

[zinc phoenix]

Devil’s claw is strictly worse than force sword or dueling sword because those two get stupid amounts of dodge imo

[severe folio]

any specific devil claw model ?

[light belfry]

1 is my favorite

but from what i understand, they dont have major stats differences

mostly moveset differences

[severe folio]

about that dodge limit, how do they work, what does it mean when they are unlimited

[light belfry]

i find mk1 most convenient

you can spam dodges forever and they never become innefective dodges

[severe folio]

yeah all 3 of them have difference in moveset

[light belfry]

are you familiar with what that is?

[severe folio]

i dont think i am familiar with ineffective dodge

never heard of that

[light belfry]

basically, for most weapons, after however many dodges, they start to become increasingly worse

theres a mod that shows your dodge counter

it resets after like a sec

[severe folio]

interesting

[light belfry]

so infinite effective dodges lets you hard spam dodge forever

its not necessary but its nice

[bleak tulip]

#psyker-class message stat differnces on duels:

[severe folio]

what exactly happen when you ran out of dodge, do you dodge shorter ?

[light belfry]

yea

shorter n shorter overtime

[severe folio]

i see

that is very useful

[light belfry]

the mod i have makes the number go yellow and then eventaully red and you feel it

the dodges get super anemic

at the end

i catch myself afk brain dodge dancing in hordes and im moving like inches

[severe folio]

thank you

[light belfry]

after a while

u want uncanny and like riposte or precog

for dueling 4 right

[severe folio]

i have never notice the dodge decrease

what about

uhh

[light belfry]

it doesnt take long for your dodges to reset

[severe folio]

how do i say this

priorities ?

of each weapon ?

[light belfry]

like whwat theyre good at?

[severe folio]

im aware that the force and devil claw are great at horde

[severe folio]

yeah exactly

[light belfry]

dueling sword is pretty mobile and has monsterous single target damage

[severe folio]

i feel like i am not getting the most out of them

[light belfry]

you can like one tap muties and two tap crushers with ideal setup in ideal situation ive heard

they fuck hard

not amazing hordeclear

but servicable

[bleak tulip]

illisi horde, deimos single target, duel IV more single target but you can attack so fast you can slap a few bruisers

[severe folio]

that explain why i felt difficult on horde wih the dueling sword

[zinc phoenix]

The downside of dueling sword is it’s pretty shit against carapace too

[severe folio]

i thought flurry could substitute vanguard

[bleak tulip]

youd be surprised

[light belfry]

you can get a blessing to help

[severe folio]

i very much should do that

[zinc phoenix]

I mean yeah if you trait it for that it can deal

[severe folio]

i have a feeling that i know the answer to this question, but i want to ask just i ncase

[zinc phoenix]

But force sword can just special and open that can

[severe folio]

how do you guys farm for your plasteel and diamante

[light belfry]

i spam damnation

[severe folio]

dang

[light belfry]

i dont think auric is worth if you wanna spam craft

[bleak tulip]

deimos special is certainly a lot more consistent and requires no prep

[severe folio]

deimos is the new force sword right ?

with the stabbing attack

[light belfry]

yea

deimos is stabby ilissi is slashy

single target vs hordeclear

[zinc phoenix]

The Elsa force sword is good with surge

Gives you a horde clear option

Deimos better with burgatus

[light belfry]

yea

[zinc phoenix]

Void just do it’s own thing

Maybe dueling sword for clapping mutie

With void

[light belfry]

for trauma do you want warp flurry adn rending shockwave

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I really hate gunners so I like force sword deflector

[light belfry]

sorry to spam ask questions but i got bored of crafting random shit on my zealot and i got surge so its psyker time

[viral inlet]

once you reach zero dodge count either jump (it'll reset your count by the time you land) or stop/walk for a full second
the timing on dodge count is generous enough that it'll reset multiple times as you just take swings inbetween dodges

[atomic zephyr]

Yes

[zinc phoenix]

You can also put fire and crit on trauma lot of options

[light belfry]

maeks sense

[zinc phoenix]

Fire trauma is fun

[light belfry]

id ask about surge blessings but

yea

[zinc phoenix]

I will say using staff for horde clear I always miss the terrifying blessing

Suppressing stuff just makes such a massive difference with making it stay away

[atomic zephyr]

On void, you want nexus and surge

If you’re using surge

[light belfry]

that makes sense

[severe folio]

if deimos is stabbing, illisis is slashy

what does that make obscurus

[light belfry]

old

[zinc phoenix]

Crappy

[hexed geyser]

Useless?

[bleak tulip]

I think youre the first person who changed to the rectangle staff

[atomic zephyr]

Otherwise flurry/ transfer peril is good too

[light belfry]

didnt think about that

[severe folio]

very unfortunate

[zinc phoenix]

Obscurus was first force sword

[light belfry]

that makes a lot of sense

makes me wanna upgrade my staff sooner rather than later

oh well

[light belfry]

a few weapons are like that

like the ogryn stubber

[viral inlet]

to be fair it looks pretty cool

[light belfry]

they release two otehr variants after launch that kind of overshadow the original

[viral inlet]

Did anyone mention crit on voidstrike yet?

[acoustic seal]

Been playing with your build @arctic citrus feels great

[atomic zephyr]

If you run surge, then you stack crit % and nexus

[arctic citrus]

good to hear

[viral inlet]

by surge you mean staff or smite the blitz?

[atomic zephyr]

Staff blessing

[severe folio]

i like the rectangle staff too

[light belfry]

neither

so stupid that they named it that

[severe folio]

at least, because thats the only other unique shape other than the hawk of purgatus

well, and that aquila one

[light belfry]

ive always liked the silver version void has

[severe folio]

what concern me more than the staff shape

is the fact that most staff attack use the free hand rather than the staff itself

aside from voidstrike

so theres almsot no point in the staff shape

[bleak tulip]

I mean the staff is more of a focus than it is for casting

[hexed geyser]

You should see the staff like a Lightning catcher. Gathers energy for you

[bleak tulip]

youll see it in the lore stuff that psykers often use their hands instead

[severe folio]

thats true

even so, that makes the staffs feels a bit

decorative

[hexed geyser]

Meanwhile tyranids just use their forehead

[severe folio]

i hope they add more staffs

staves

[viral inlet]

aha I get it now yeah
I run transfer peril instead because all I do on voidstrike is land headshots anyway. it helps in clutch scenarios where I can't charge it in time due to enemy density, close quarters etc.

but what you really need is this

2 nukes for the price of one lol

[light belfry]

is it worht going disrupt destiny for void surge meme dream

or should i just go warp charges to get free damage

[bleak tulip]

I run disrupt

[slow raven]

try both

[bleak tulip]

its good

[slow raven]

im using scriers and disrupt rn, when you have the buffs going you can do some ridiculous damage

[bleak tulip]

psionics makes assail peril gen feel somewhat inconsistent

since its so spammy

[light belfry]

scriers does sound really funny for this build

but im not sure im man enough

[slow raven]

i killed like 8 elites in one cast

[hexed geyser]

Should i upgrade all the way to orange to farm blessings or just blue?

[slow raven]

you just need to quell a lot

and run the 30% quell talent

[light belfry]

alright

ill give it a shot

[bleak tulip]

pretty sure its the same chance for both

[slow raven]

and once you reach like 20ish stacks you shuld just stop casting and wait for it to hit 100

i usually try to squeeze in a few more casts though

[severe folio]

how do you raise the shop's weapons stat

[slow raven]

or you can just pull out your voidstrike staff and hold quell until you hit 30

[light belfry]

what talents do i go under scriers gaze

[severe folio]

do they scale with the weapons you have in your inventory or something

[light belfry]

reduced peril gen or the other one

[severe folio]

i dont think its easy to get a lot of scrier stack

[hexed geyser]

Oh wait the shop increase with your level

[severe folio]

i see

so at max level

you just have a random chance to get a weapon with 370+ ?

[hexed geyser]

Its like 300-380

[severe folio]

nothing else influence it ?

[light belfry]

it sounds worse than it is

you should get the browser extension

that letsy o ucheck shop easier

dece weapons roll in over time

[severe folio]

i definitely gonna need that

[light belfry]

want me to send it?

u chrome or fireforx

[severe folio]

yes please

uhh

[light belfry]

or more sinister third thing

[viral inlet]

if you mean the armory, it's your character's level
you unlock maximum possible stats for those randomly rolled weapons as you reach lvl 30

[severe folio]

well

edge

[spice oar]

i want a different blessing combo on surge staff but idk what to grab

[light belfry]

lemme see the post

[light belfry]

the reddit post says '(the Chrome extension should be compatible with other chromium based browsers like, Opera GX, Brave, & Edge)'

i dm you

[severe folio]

thank you

[zinc phoenix]

You want peril with Scrier if you’re melee/gun

Peril fuels toughness and damage

[mossy sonnet]

ZAP

[azure karma]

what should i refine onto this to make it better

[hexed geyser]

That's beautiful

[azure karma]

hehe

[acoustic seal]

So based on what I was told this is a better flame staff yes?

[slow raven]

the other one, precognition i think it's called

since you get stacks from weak spot kills

makes it a lot easier to get 30 stacks if youre using voidstrike

[light belfry]

yea

[magic whale]

is this Melk purgatus any good or meh?

[azure karma]

yes

[mossy sonnet]

hello siblings, i got this as a drop

i know the perks can use changing but overall it's alright?

[modest pasture]

That drop looks really fun on mobs.

[light belfry]

time to first time scriers gaze in damnation

i shouldve run like 4 wounds

[severe folio]

how do axe fair now, i recall they used to have a ton of crowd fun and carapace spot

[edgy ibex]

I dont see many psykers anymore

Used to be a million but its zealots everywhere rn. Must be zealot time

[zinc phoenix]

Zealots are super strong rn

And assail is boring af

[bleak tulip]

maybe everyones gotten it out of their system

not a ton of nuance and skill to assail so theres that too

[acoustic seal]

If I could feel efficient and not use Assail I would but I haven't found a build that fits that. Lightning gets boring quick and I'm not good with void staff overall.

[primal aurora]

Actually I found myself enjoying playing zealot with hammer, just for the fun of it. Admitedly Holy relic is a very useful panic button that helps whole team.

[modest pasture]

I main psyker right now. His name is Luthor.

[worn cypress]

its fun to play zealot in-character

[zinc phoenix]

I do well with illsi/smite/surge/warp charge personally

But it hurts my hand like a mfker

[modest pasture]

Have you considered wearing Gloves?

Compression gloves* pardon

[light belfry]

i just realized i can totally convert this back and forth between flurry and nexus

[acoustic seal]

I've only used Assail, infinite lightning, and voidstrike head pop.

[light belfry]

and the perk to crit chance

[primal aurora]

The only thing I miss is fun voice lines of Venting shriek, since I play with Dome Shield mostly now.

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but at a cost

[light belfry]

yea

it does cost some sauce

but i can try the full crit build at my leisure

totally didnt think abt that

[zinc phoenix]

You could try one of the non cheesy builds. Traditional psyker is still really good

[light belfry]

yeah thats what makes me happy about this patch

[zinc phoenix]

Purgatus is also very strong

[acoustic seal]

No idea what that entails

[zinc phoenix]

I did trad psyker with purgatus and had a great time

[light belfry]

a lot of the time i like to go brain burst for the cdr talent and just play void strike firing platform

i guess voidstrike is op this patch so it probably counts as cheese

[worn cypress]

I’m still having the most fun with purg replicating pre-patch build, with BB and all lol

[light belfry]

but its my comfy staff

ive heard trauma fucsk too

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek/bb/warp charge with purgatus staff and the various soulfire perks

[light belfry]

its just not op

killstick

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma is good but imo requires illsi and a really good staff

[worn cypress]

trauma has best utility

[zinc phoenix]

If you have low rolled charge time or blast radius you’ll just get cucked

[worn cypress]

I just think that its not fun to play

[primal aurora]

armor breaking?

[acoustic seal]

Send me the build and I'll give it a shot. I'd rather secondary Psyker over Veteran so I'm trying to find something that feels as good as Assail.

[zinc phoenix]

I got good at aiming it so I like it but my staff is shit tier

Sharing builds is such a pain

[worn cypress]

the core loop of aiming it is just too clunky for how I play I guess

[acoustic seal]

Yet it's the best method

[severe folio]

i love the purg staff

[acoustic seal]

Cause otherwise as I'm still learning terms you're speaking absolute different languages to me.

[worn cypress]

good thing that other staffs are strong too and I can just play whatevers fun

[zenith cosmos]

im solo whats the best xp farm im level 21 what mission can i run? I try malice and get 3 level 8s lol

idk why it said wif in the start sorry

[spice oar]

i completely understood you

[zenith cosmos]

like quick play level for or 5 idk if i can handle it and i dont wanna be a burden and level 2 gives no xp

[zinc phoenix]

I had same feel, but I spent time on it and now it feels pretty natural and I can do wacky shit with it

[primal aurora]

Personally I like Trauma staff visually and theme wise a lot, but in actual games it feels way worse than Void.
I can't snipe snipers, hordes scatter in different direction when I hit them with Trauma, so leftovers flank you or your teammates and you stuck with cleaning up your mess. It is harder to aim and what is worst Trauma staggers less than Void (at least it feels that way).

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma is so nice for trick shotting stuff around corners and behind height obstacles

[zinc phoenix]

If you pair trauma with the fire traits and the fire weapon perk your horde clear is everything burning to death

But you need big boi blast radius

[indigo thunder]

Is Illisi worth using?

[primal aurora]

Trauma would be fantastic if it was implosion instead of explosion. Probably would be too good then.

[zinc phoenix]

Y I S S

[zinc phoenix]

That’d be some funny shit graphically

[plucky flax]

Interesting.

[indigo thunder]

Empowered Psionics or Warp Syphon with Brain Rupture?

I feel like Syphon will guarantee more consistent damage increase

[slow raven]

problem is the anti-synergy where casting your super makes your BR cast faster and cost less, but also wipes out your warp charges which is a significant damage loss

[severe folio]

i got a 370 mk2 duelin sword

[slow raven]

it's a new problem with this patch, this didnt use to be an issue with the old talents

[severe folio]

wish the main stat were 80 though

[indigo thunder]

Yeah, I wish charges consuption for CD was a a subtalent

[severe folio]

i forgot how do we gain warp charge bck in the day

its just bb anyone right ?

[indigo thunder]

Like, is there ever a reason to grab Essence Harvest? There are already talents that give toughness on kills. Could've made ability cooldown reduction instead of that

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be a great replacement for the “stack to 6” talent which really ought to just be default

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re generating a lot of warp charges with aoe and have an aggressive style? Idk, it seemed iffy to me too with how hard it is to generate wc

Assuming it’s the 30% toughness for warp charge trait

[indigo thunder]

It is

[zinc phoenix]

The other option for that tier is the peril gen one which imo is risky

Cuz u consume your WC and then your peril breakpoints change

[indigo thunder]

Just get it back smh

There is never a shortage of elites and specs to kill on auric

[zinc phoenix]

If you play on the edge with peril having the breakpoint change can mean accidental asplode

It’s not about getting them, it’s about miscalculating

Maybe other people are better with head math 😂

[indigo thunder]

Let me narrow my question. For a boss killing brain rupture: EP or WS?

[indigo thunder]

Why do you need a math. The game stops your casts and abilities at 100% peril with a loud noise

[zinc phoenix]

IMO warp charges, more consistent damage and easier to acquire

And you can burn them with blitz to spam bb

[zinc phoenix]

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work with some weaps… and I don’t trust it at all

Like I know I’ve been fucked with surge going over 100 and blapping me

When I started well under

[slow raven]

it depends on when you do the left click

left click while under 97% peril

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve started doing left click with the staff

And it’s still wacky shit but I can hit things now

I’ve also noticed that I’m basically the only person who ever left clicks with staff

[slow raven]

yeah it's a waste not to use it

gives extra reach on surge and trauma

more stagger on purg

slightly faster cast on void but tbh i never use it on void

[zinc phoenix]

Why would you? Void is literally the big version of it

[long wharf]

I only ever left click with a staff on accident

Or as a reflexive action to enemies suddenly being in my face

[zinc phoenix]

It’s handy on surge/purge when you’re having length issues

And you didn’t bring bb

[long wharf]

I never bring bb

[digital narwhal]

Cadia Mk IV Assault Chain Sword

There is no Chain.

Only Sword.

[bleak tulip]

more like shidder

[strong gulch]

It's special is getting caught on sweaters/ jumpers.

[severe folio]

how does that shred stat possible

also the dueling mk4 feels very nice

[dusky vapor]

Whats your favorite dueling sword and why?

[reef island]

any salvaging this shredder pistol?

[zinc phoenix]

Not sure if bad sword or just bra 😂

[vale viper]

Whats the go to perks and blessings for Voidstrike again?

[strong gulch]

Why not both. It's both.

[dusky vapor]

https://i.imgur.com/6Cobyw0.jpeg

[dusky vapor]

This should honestly be pinned here

[zinc phoenix]

The purgatus recs are bad

No soulfire trauma loadout? Lol

[lime creek]

can the crystal shards crit?

[strong gulch]

People are getting a lot of use out of nexus + surge blessings right now.

That is bigger damage.

[zinc phoenix]

All of these seem built around the assumption that you’ll be playing crit/assail

In which case… who gives a shit what other stuff you have equipped

[strong gulch]

If you want more consistent uptime, transfer peril + flurry.

[long wharf]

Yes, Assail crits

[bleak tulip]

this is just, like, their opinion, man

[long wharf]

And quite well

[bleak tulip]

that duel 4 recommendation is also outdated tbh

[fierce crest]

well its outdated so...

[light belfry]

thanks for making me give it a shot this shit is awesome

[long wharf]

I also don't prefer dodge-based blessings

[strong gulch]

You can also test in the psykhanium how often some things proc. If you seldom never crit without nexus, taking a crit depended blessing may not be the best.

[dusky vapor]

hm, didnt know, thought he updated them for the new patch. He gives the reasonings on video

Im new, so for me its nice to have something to look at and not get overwhelmed by perks and blessings

[fierce crest]

void dub crit is a big reason its so op right now

[slow raven]

hell yeah dude, it's my favorite playstyle right now

[dusky vapor]

Not sure what that means

[light belfry]

crit voidstrike shots feel like elephant gun shots

[long wharf]

Because they are

[light belfry]

i actually topped boss dmg with void

[bleak tulip]

I reliably top boss damage with void

and I dont even have surge

its a little silly

[light belfry]

would you go warp nexus with this?

[dusky vapor]

is that with normal shot or charged?

[light belfry]

you got me interested in making one of those

[bleak tulip]

either tbh, sometimes I quell cancel sometimes I charge, I couldnt tell you which is optimal tbh

though bolter vet and some ogryn builds obv still toast it

[strong gulch]

Nexus + blazing spirit for fire trauma. You want to stay at high peril and quel cancel a lot

[bleak tulip]

psyker boss damage isnt exactly great rn

[dusky vapor]

but does surge work on charged attacks on voidstrike?

[light belfry]

makes sense

[bleak tulip]

yes

[dusky vapor]

oh, thats pretty cool

[bleak tulip]

surge works on right clicks

which is why its so busted

[long wharf]

Just not with Trauma staff

[dusky vapor]

I thought it only worked on light attacks

or left clicks

[strong gulch]

Surge blessing work on both LMB and RMB on void.

Only works on LMB for trauma.

[dusky vapor]

What is blazing spirrit?

[light belfry]

crits apply stacks of soulblaze

[dusky vapor]

Talent?

[bleak tulip]

the only fun trauma build

[light belfry]

its a blesing

[light belfry]

so you rattle them around and build up fire stacks

what blessings do you go on purgatus

[idle aurora]

Btw, anyone tested wildfire again? Seems to work the same way as before

[strong gulch]

Haven't updated my staff yet but there is blazing spirit.

[dusky vapor]

Oh, i thougth you was talking about the purg staff xD

im dumb

okay

[strong gulch]

It's soulblaze on crit.

[dusky vapor]

and i assume thtat is on right click crits aswell?

[strong gulch]

np. it happens. You can also be potato today

[dusky vapor]

Yes 🙂

im ogryn main, and im not sure what weapons i like on the psyker class yet

so its nice to hear some weapon builds here

[zinc phoenix]

I’m a big fan of soulfire + terrifying because I like the suppression effect and I like fire

[dusky vapor]

fire is 🔥 💯

[zinc phoenix]

I wouldn’t call that a meta pick tho 😂

[strong gulch]

Yes. You chain danger circle hits at high peril and quell constantly. This keeps your crit up.

[dusky vapor]

Danger circle hits?

[zinc phoenix]

I wish this game didn’t make my hand hurt

[strong gulch]

If you quell right after the animation begins, you can do it way faster and keep up a rhythm.

[strong gulch]

danger circle

[dusky vapor]

Think i understad, why is your lvl so high?

[hexed geyser]

Can i get tier 4 blessing by upgrading to blue items or only orange?

[strong gulch]

OH right. It's a mod. True Level. It have it integrated with Numeric UI.

[strong gulch]

You can get them on blues, but your chances are better at getting t4 blessings on orange.

[hexed geyser]

So do i want blue or orange to farm all of them?

[fierce crest]

also upgrading to farm blessings is very expensive

[strong gulch]

Speaking of blazing spirit. It only goes up to T3 on trauma.

[fierce crest]

check shops instead

[dusky vapor]

My mods just suddenly stopped working after a patch

[strong gulch]

It's a way for sure. Doing harder content and the occasion melk purchase helps. Harder content can give you oranges witch can have T4 blessings.

[fierce crest]

and keep in mind, going purple > orange is much more expensive than green > blue

[fierce crest]

run the .bat

[dusky vapor]

Oh, thanks 🙂

[strong gulch]

Yeah, I had to turn them back on. Hope your game doesn't crash if you haven't turned yours back on.

Chat block is what was crashing my game. A couple others stopped working.

[dusky vapor]

My chat keeps bugging out, is i because of the mods?

When i press enter in games it tries to open the mourningstar chat, and i cant type anything

[strong gulch]

IDK. That might be Darktide itself. I've been hearing people have issues with chat. Last hotfix had a chat fix.

That's a known bug

[dusky vapor]

It works for one game then bugs out for me, i have to restart the game for it to work

[languid osprey]

siblings what do you think i should change?

[light belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9a6059f7-9f47-4b27-beac-a8d708bd2675 would you guys change anything about this build? i feel like its probably worth picking up the assail talents from a raw effectiveness standpoint but assail is lame so i dont really care

[light belfry]

uncanny is pretty sick

id throw that on over rampage personally

then replace one of the perks

[languid osprey]

hm

better than swaping two perks?

they are awfull

[light belfry]

they are pretty bad

its up to you

but i value uncanny strike fairly highly

[strong gulch]

So rampage is in an interesting spot. There is a case for it.

[light belfry]

yea

i think rampage isnt bad

its probably not a bad idea to get rid of both perks and just rock with that sword

and pick up an uncanny one in the future

i just dont use the dueling 4 in situations where rampage would trigger often

[bleak tulip]

malefic isnt super value, seers presence aura is better, scrier's isnt really worth it unless youre gunker but I understand you wanna try it out, and perilous combustion is heaps better than running warp expenditure

[languid osprey]

ill swap the perks and search for uncanny

[light belfry]

yea i already have a fairly good idea of how to build normal builds

[languid osprey]

for my next sword

[bleak tulip]

and of course you do want the top assail perk but you stated you dont care

[light belfry]

just felt a little spread thin here

[languid osprey]

what perks should i use?

[light belfry]

flak and maniac is pretty classic but i dont know about specific bps for that sword

[bleak tulip]

also I would run health instead of wound curio

[light belfry]

so iunno

[strong gulch]

Honestly play around with what you have. See how your playstyle and the blessing mesh. What you can keep proc-ing and what you can't.

Look up "rampage" by user "Arcotash" here in discord. There should maths and convos about it.

You can go wrong with Unncanny Stikes.

[light belfry]

yea i think wound generally isnt worth running if youre playing well

its mostly training wheels for me playing around wtih scriers

[languid osprey]

ill check thx!

[light belfry]

do you think moving full speed while quelling is better? i felt like they were both low impact at that junction

[strong gulch]

This is based on feels not math. I don't like Gaze for warp based attacks. Your peril builds quickly and gaze ends early. You are also at high chance of exploding.

[light belfry]

i dont usually feel a need for it but i guess malefic probably wont do anything

yeah its not like a

im fairly comfortabel with building standard psyekr builds im just branching out into full crit gaze memes since i got surge set up

and i feel like most of my other builds have more points to throw around

i dont think scriers is better than shout

[bleak tulip]

its not good but you basically dont get any value out of malefic unless youre using melee quite a bit, and duel isnt really for horde clear so you wouldnt be getting a ton of stacks reliably imo

[light belfry]

yeah

this build does get some movement speed going as well

so it fits

zoom while im quelling

actually it sounds convenient if i want to spam quell to keep scriers going for whatever reason

[glad meadow]

can anyone point me to any good rifle for gunpsyker?

what are their good points too

[light belfry]

thats not a huge use case but its a silly fun one

[thorn cedar]

Recon 6 with the node for automatic ranged crits after 5 weakspot hits is pretty awesome

[long wharf]

uhh

[thorn cedar]

If you can keep your sights on a head it's basically an endless crit chain

[long wharf]

it's the worst ammo economy weapon in the game

and you're the worst class to use it with

[thorn cedar]

Patently untrue but you do you.

[long wharf]

patently true

[glad meadow]

hmm true

[plucky flax]

@zinc phoenix I assume this guy is not you?

[glad meadow]

one thing i kinda wonder about psyker is since staff are kinda like

unlimited ammo

but gun isnt

there will be a time where you just out of ammo and be worse than the stafff psyker

[long wharf]

you can have fun with a gun, just be aware that it's suboptimal

[thorn cedar]

You have Blitz as well so your gun is more of a complement to your melee/blitz/ability

[long wharf]

if you want to have fun with a gun, psyker is the worst of the classes for that choice

[thorn cedar]

You don't really use all that much ammo in the end.

Especially with the idiocy of current Assail

[lofty pumice]

Generally the idea of bringing a gun on a Psyker is that you get to do things with a gun that you can't do with any of the available staffs

[thorn cedar]

Like fire at 100% peril

[long wharf]

if you want to kill things quickly, Void can't be beat

[lofty pumice]

Obviously, if you just want to bring a shredder and shoot poxwalkers then you should be running a purgatus or something and the gun is wasted

[light belfry]

I think gunpsyker is better off now with scriers and also assail basically being another primary

[long wharf]

if you want to kill a lot of things quickly, there's also urp Trauma

[lofty pumice]

If that thing is a boss, it actually can be beat

[light belfry]

Isn’t vraks peak psyker boss dmg

or something

[lofty pumice]

None of the Psyker's ranged options kill bosses quicky

[long wharf]

we're talking about staves vs guns

[thorn cedar]

Infernus Lasgun with bottomless crits is ok

[lofty pumice]

Yeah, the 3x burst headhunter has a psyker build that is pretty good in boss damage department

[thorn cedar]

Just tickle the damage on in bursts

[bleak tulip]

okay but with a gun youre still not good at killing bosses, youre just less bad at best and still the worst of all classes so whats the point

[long wharf]

problem with gun psyker is that any other class can do better with guns

[thorn cedar]

It'll max stack immediately

[light belfry]

yea

[lofty pumice]

You also get the rest of the psyker's kit, without the glaring weakness of terrible boss damage

[long wharf]

and you're gimping your psyker-specific output

[light belfry]

gun psyker is weird

[lofty pumice]

So you can run a force sword and funny magic missiles and not cry when a Plague Ogryn shows up

[long wharf]

you could also run dueling sword + assail

and laugh when anything shows up

[primal aurora]

I've tried to play gun psyker, with Gaze, but it felt bad.

[light belfry]

I mean it’s not like a dueling sword and some elbow grease won’t get the job done

you might not kill the boss super fast

but it’ll die and probably safely if you 1v1 it

[long wharf]

psykers right now are great against everything but bosses

[light belfry]

what’s your pfp from

[bleak tulip]

I said it before but I do get top boss damage on damnation pubs more often than not, its not like void is entirely useless for bosses, its just by far not optimal, and you'd be giving up using a staff and being a worse gun user for 98% of the match that isnt a boss fight unless youre entirely mainlining assail which is just utterly boring and likely getting nerfed

[light belfry]

convenient that every other class can send bosses to heaven instantly this patch

covers up that weakness

[long wharf]

match made in heaven by the emperor

[lofty pumice]

They can, but they often won't

[long wharf]

He On The Throne wills is so

[lofty pumice]

Because pub player lottery

[light belfry]

Rumbler gun lugger is the stupidest shit and I love it

[light belfry]

that’s true

[long wharf]

but! take my advice with this following tidbit - I do not frequently play with pubs

[light belfry]

depends on the builds they choose and the players piloting them

[long wharf]

I have enough friends that play that I mostly play 3+ known groups

[bleak tulip]

idk its not a big deal unless youre trying to run HISG with pubs at which point thats on you

[primal aurora]

In boss fights Psyker can help by dealing with adds.

[light belfry]

I mostly play pubs

[light belfry]

yea that’s the thing

boss encounters aren’t just a big 4v1

[lofty pumice]

If you can't win at least a pretty solid percentage of pub HISG then you need to git gud

[light belfry]

it would be effortless if that was the case

[long wharf]

and assail isn't an immediate win button at higher difficulties

[light belfry]

often even off psyker I feel like I’m best off playing bodyguard

making sure everything goes well outside of the boss

[zinc phoenix]

nah i use a different name for every servie

[long wharf]

on damnation, you have to actually pick your targets as assail can actually kill too slowly

[zinc phoenix]

saw too many people get doxxed because they used the same name everywhere back in the early 2000s

[long wharf]

... I have used this name everywhere online since 1999

[zinc phoenix]

i usually have to watch back of assail psyker, they tunnel vision as bad as vets on launch

[primal aurora]

Also psyker can facetank bosses with force sword infinite dodges and peril blocking.

[long wharf]

and they tunnel vision for the same reason - have to continue to aim at what you want to kill

assail isn't fire-and-forget

[hexed geyser]

What is the highest max hp/toughness on curios? Or their rating?

[bleak tulip]

21 and 17

[olive ember]

21% for hp 17% for toughness

[lofty pumice]

If you are using it as a space creating weapon then it basically is fire-and-forget

[long wharf]

I wouldn't bother with toughness curious for psyker

[thorn cedar]

I forget lmao

[hexed geyser]

And i assume it's +1 wound and +2 stamina also the max?

[thorn cedar]

I'm trying to remember

[long wharf]

you're using assail wrong if you're using it to create space

[lofty pumice]

But I'd say that quickly clearing and creating space for the team is Assail's greatest strength

[light belfry]

he looks cool

[bleak tulip]

yes

[long wharf]

spacing is extremely important to maximum the effectiveness of each shard

[hexed geyser]

Heh i'm playing zealot but go check the chat it's just dumb 75% of the time

[thorn cedar]

Bunshichi from ???

[burnt knot]

+3 stamina is max

[bleak tulip]

thats a bug

[zinc phoenix]

agree, toughness regen >>> toughness b/c shit dr on psyker

[long wharf]

throwing shards as quickly as possible is Doing It Wrong

[bleak tulip]

you dont actually get 3 stam iirc, its bugged

[long wharf]

yep, I have toughness regen on each curio

uh yes you do?

[burnt knot]

wow, thanks Fatshark

[olive ember]

What

Toughness regen is shit

It only affects coherency regen

[zinc phoenix]

r u sure?

[long wharf]

since when?

[olive ember]

Since forever

[bleak tulip]

I thought thats how it was too

[zinc phoenix]

i definitely noticed a difference in how fast i was gaining toughness from peril regen

[olive ember]

Unless I’m misremembering it’s been like that since forever

[thorn cedar]

Toughness DR is pretty big on Psyker you have a node that gives you a flat 10% that scalds to 33%

[zinc phoenix]

vet can get a perk that gives you flat 75%

[long wharf]

no, toughness regen definitely affects the delay in toughness regen as well as regen speed

[zinc phoenix]

ogryn can get even more

[bleak tulip]

either way you just get so much now that I dont even think about coherency regen since you just get filled by killing like 4 trash

[light belfry]

Is that still in the game

[thorn cedar]

That's not what Vet has no

[light belfry]

I thought that got removed with the tree

[zinc phoenix]

yes

[thorn cedar]

Vet caps at 70% now with the three specific nodes

[zinc phoenix]

i will pull it up

[thorn cedar]

And I think 75 with the two 5% flat nodes

[zinc phoenix]

yall makin me turn on the game

[thorn cedar]

And only in full coherency and three stacked ranged headshots

Just do gameslantern

[zinc phoenix]

im doin it

fuckin login in

[thorn cedar]

lmao

[long wharf]

I wouldn't trust gameslantern to be 100% accurate on game mechanics

[zinc phoenix]

FATSHARRRRRRRK

[thorn cedar]

The tree is accurate

[hexed geyser]

What did i start...

[long wharf]

there will always be bugs

[thorn cedar]

Doesn't work on mobile but still

[plucky flax]

Anyone still run warp flurry transfer peril on their voidstrike?

[zinc phoenix]

baby got back...end error

[thorn cedar]

Yeah I do lll

Too lazy to make a new one

Works well with Gaze anyway which I am having fun with

[plucky flax]

I can't get my peril up with transfer peril.

[zinc phoenix]

alright im loading my vet babe

yall motherfuckers best be ready for this

nope game said no

[thorn cedar]

lol

[zinc phoenix]

jesus christ fatshark pay for actual servers

stop getting the free t1 micro

[thorn cedar]

@light belfry tenjou tenge

thats the fkn name

[light belfry]

yea I googled him

[bleak tulip]

best fuckin OP in the history of everything

[light belfry]

I have one around for if I want to be normal or the future if they nerf surge

but crit seems so sauced

[long wharf]

I don't see Surge blessing being touched

it's working as intended

[light belfry]

more like nerf things around surge

[thorn cedar]

I only read the manga lol

[light belfry]

i guess

[thorn cedar]

Great art

[long wharf]

more likely that Void charge piercing armor is going to be fixed

[plucky flax]

Yeah I went into a game with the wrong loadout. Thought I had surge warp nexus but I had flurry transfer peril.

[light belfry]

it’s hard to nerf surge anyway

[long wharf]

I suspect that it's not supposed to be going through bulwark shields

[plucky flax]

I noticed the lack of damage straight away.

[light belfry]

unless maybe you make the second shots o reduced damage

[light belfry]

seems stupid that it does

becuase it directly competes with trauma

[long wharf]

yep, obvious bug

[light belfry]

and that should be a benefit of trauma

compared to it

[hexed geyser]

In lore psykers can go trough armor so why not

[long wharf]

just like revolver Hand Cannon blessing affecting Assail shards is obvious bug

[olive ember]

Idk cuz everyone wanted the voidstrike to ignore the shield

[long wharf]

but I'm going to abuse it until they fix it

[zinc phoenix]

vet DR perks from the bigdick melee tree

[olive ember]

It’s the damage that’s overtuned as shit

[light belfry]

it doesn’t need to shit on plasma gun that hard

[zinc phoenix]

note that they add up to 83% and theres another 5% in the tree

[thorn cedar]

That's not how it adds up

It's multiplicative

[zinc phoenix]

well fuck me for being bad at math

[long wharf]

well, there were two directions Fatshark could have gone with Void

high damage low aoe, and normal damage high aoe

[zinc phoenix]

anyway there's still more toughness DR in the vet tree than the psyker tree by a lot

even with my shitty math

[light belfry]

yeah

[zinc phoenix]

its not even close

[light belfry]

the point stands

[zinc phoenix]

psyker has absolutely garbage DR compared to the other classes

[light belfry]

the old volley fire 75% dr thing isn’t around though

for good reason

[long wharf]

I'd almost prefer that Void be the previous damage with much larger aoe

[bleak tulip]

for like one hit because even with that DR itll put you under 75%

[zinc phoenix]

and thats fine because psyker can bigdick with damange now

[thorn cedar]

So Close Order + Iron Will + Takedown + TDR nodes now caps out just shy of 75% if everything is active

[long wharf]

make the Surge projectile be a crit one as well

[thorn cedar]

And it rarely is

[light belfry]

speaking of dr

[zinc phoenix]

thats when you shout "fuck off noobs" and get full toughness+ an extra 50

[long wharf]

so we have an alternative for mass soulblazing

[light belfry]

you should try full wound gating veteran

or

Zealot

not veteran

[zinc phoenix]

nah i been doing wound zealot

that shit is nuts

[light belfry]

it’s so stupid

I love it

[long wharf]

I'm not a fan of "lose your life to gain X" mechanics

[light belfry]

you don’t take damage is the thing

so it’s fine

[long wharf]

it's just not my preferred playstyle

[light belfry]

nothing wrong with that

[long wharf]

I see low life, I want to heal

[long wharf]

uh oh, here we go

[light belfry]

momentum is probably better than martyrdom in a vacuum the other talents around wounds are just kinda broken

[zinc phoenix]

I accidentally ran wound zealot when trying to do the wound penance and even when trying to take damage it was still a bitch to actually get it down to less than one wound because that build has just insane amounts of heal and DR

[zinc phoenix]

I stack the wound build with holy rev for maximum “man too angry to die”

[long wharf]

that's my copilot

[thorn cedar]

catsss

[long wharf]

and yes, that's cardboard between my keyboard and her pillow

[zinc phoenix]

Now when people accuse you of catassing you can send them a pic of one

[light belfry]

the thing that really fucks it off is the wound dr+the thing that makes you heal back damage taken letting you heal back up the wound and get that charge of dr again

[long wharf]

and her leg around the cardboard hitting keys anyways

[snow rock]

is riposte good enough to leave on a duelling sword?

[light belfry]

yea

[long wharf]

I find that I don't dance with the duelling sword

so I use the non-dodge blessings on my mk4

[snow rock]

I like a good dance myself

[light belfry]

I use it defensively a lot and I find myself dancing with it

I basically don’t pull it out if I’m not pressured

although

[long wharf]

I only whip mine out when there's a big target needing quick stabbing

[light belfry]

with the um

the 5 hits guaranteed ranged crit thing

[long wharf]

mutants

True Aim

[zinc phoenix]

What

Why do you even use it then?

[narrow crane]

yall better not whip anything out near me

[zinc phoenix]

Literally just to bang muties?

[light belfry]

sometimes I’ll pull out dueling to build it up, and use it to kill specials that I can reasonably kill in melee, to keep the true aim stack

[long wharf]

to stab hardened/big targets

[snow rock]

been thinking about true aim with revolver, could make a good deleter

[zinc phoenix]

Mutie banger 😂

[light belfry]

so I can unleash my load on a pack or a crushed

[long wharf]

yep, to bang muties, crushers, etc

[bleak tulip]

I mean thats low key the role of psyker melee this patch so far

basically every staff also does horde clear or at least horde control

[zinc phoenix]

If you really hate muties surge is pretty nice

[bleak tulip]

and assail is better for horde clear than any melee

[long wharf]

surge doesn't stun them quickly like it used to

[zinc phoenix]

Two zaps

[light belfry]

dueling sword is peak bull fighter gameplay vs them though

[long wharf]

correction - assail is better horde clear when you have the spacing to wait for assail to kill

[light belfry]

dodge out the way and stab em in the face

[zinc phoenix]

I admit there’s real appeal with that

[light belfry]

yea it’s fun

[bleak tulip]

idk it works in point blank just fine

[zinc phoenix]

My wife laughed when I shouted toro and shanked one so it’s a funny joke 😂

[long wharf]

I stare down the mutant

[bleak tulip]

not ideal but it works

[long wharf]

and stab it in the face

without moving.

[zinc phoenix]

“You are yeeted into the abyss. You are dead”

[long wharf]

either he's grabbing or I'm stabbing

it's Thunderdome

[open stratus]

Voidstrike is better than assail. Assail is a crutch for people who can't aim. Ezpz.

[bleak tulip]

its one of the great joys of the game to fuckin anime cutscene cut mutants during a side dodge and sheathe your weebstick again

[zinc phoenix]

If you can aim tho assail is even better

[long wharf]

using assail wrong gets you killed on damnation

[zinc phoenix]

Like assail has a high floor and a high ceiling

[long wharf]

there's a lot of room for finesse with assail

[plucky flax]

[thorn cedar]

I keep seeing people right click throw the shards. It bothers me.

[zinc phoenix]

Even bad players perform well with assail but good ones are next fucking level

[thorn cedar]

Just left click and then right click

[open stratus]

That means low floor high ceiling

[light belfry]

I wonder what they’re gonna do to assail

[long wharf]

I'm convinced that Fatshark intended players to carefully use each assail shard to hit as many targets as possible with clever aiming

[light belfry]

I think the obvious thing is to make the resources actually matter

[zinc phoenix]

I’m hung over so my words are even dumber than usual

[light belfry]

probably

[bleak tulip]

ideally make it regen slower so its more of a situational thing you can throw out but have to actually wait for

[long wharf]

honestly, all they really need to do is reduce total shard count or slow down regen rate

[zinc phoenix]

Then they set regen to a million

[plucky flax]

Nerf yourself by not taking the fast recharge talent.

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Fatshark gonna Fatshark

[bleak tulip]

already do, still too fast

[light belfry]

It’s pretty fun to throw out assails and then pull out melee and aim the assails on the horde while im chopping them up

[zinc phoenix]

IMO they did the traditional dev thing of tuning everything too high so that players would come back for the new patch and have fun with the intent of tuning it down after

[long wharf]

assail is maximized when you have shards jump from head to head

I almost never spam assail

[light belfry]

yeah makes sense

[long wharf]

I'll throw out two or three at a time, because you can't predict the initial trajectory

but purposeful aiming makes assail the most effective it can be

[bleak tulip]

it regens so fast you dont have to use any of that nuance and time tho is the problem

[long wharf]

if you only play on Heresy-, maybe

[light belfry]

yea it’s a shame that it has acquired such a reputation so fast

[bleak tulip]

just shart out 4 or 5, drag em over the horde while you switch back to void

[thorn cedar]

Yea 10 shards is more like 15

[light belfry]

I think it’s a pretty cool blitz

[long wharf]

play on high intensity damnation

[light belfry]

It’ll be fine when it’s nerfed

[bleak tulip]

I literally have only played damnation this patch my man

[long wharf]

you'll find yourself needing to make sure each shard is doing everything it can

[bleak tulip]

disagree

[light belfry]

we’ll look back on it like launch vet

[long wharf]

probably

[light belfry]

I just hope they don’t nerf it to uselessness

[zinc phoenix]

“Wow that was dumb, why did they ever do it that way”

[long wharf]

what they could do is lower the base damage, increase weakspot and crit damage multipliers

[light belfry]

because it’s the most interesting blitz

[long wharf]

that'll discourage spamming as being effective

[light belfry]

and most like engaging to use

[zinc phoenix]

The reeeing when assail is nerfed will literally create a new chaos god

[light belfry]

probably

[hexed hollow]

In many instances it feels better to rapid fire voidstrike than go for the charged shots, especially vs. weak enemies and when getting headshots due to a level plane

[light belfry]

so many psyker players on damnation and aurics who don’t need to be there

[long wharf]

only if you have Transfer Peril

[hexed hollow]

I do

[long wharf]

machinegunning void is the least peril efficient usage

[light belfry]

when the ogryn rezzes the other guy and you die and you get to spectate the psyker throwing assail shards at the boss

[narrow crane]

off topic but genuinely idk how people are saying Purg staff isn't good, it's nuts rn

[long wharf]

you get better DPS doing full charges

[zinc phoenix]

It’s weird I can use every fucking shit dick swear except b*tch

[bleak tulip]

will it? you cant fully control if itll hit heads every time since some shards just go into the fuckin wall and bounce up into enemies, you cant 100% of the time get weakspot hits

[long wharf]

while true, how you aim and guide the shards matters

that's the thing, most people are clearly not bothering to guide the shards

[light belfry]

do we know how exactly voidstrike charging works? is it an all or nothing, like is it just uncharged shots vs charged shots or are there partial charge shots

[open stratus]

There's partial charge

[bleak tulip]

maybe if you didnt take like 10 seconds to get em all back so you dont have to bother, thats the point

[long wharf]

they just throw shards out there

[narrow crane]

basically you want to either half charge or full charge

[zinc phoenix]

I think the difficulty has to be pretty high before you worry about aiming the sperm

[narrow crane]

at the very least half charge

[bleak tulip]

this is very true tho, people dont know they can aim em

because the fuckin game doesnt tell you

[long wharf]

I 100% gaurantee that I'm more effective with my assail usage than most psykers

[narrow crane]

game doesnt tell us shit

[light belfry]

I already go for fully charged shots unless I need to release early to knock some poxxers around that are gonna hit me

I just don’t know the exact mechanics

[zinc phoenix]

Well most psykers don’t even know how to dodge or use their melee so that’s not a bet I’d take

[long wharf]

like I said earlier - easy solution is to lower base damage, increase weakspot and crit multipliers

the weak psykers will weed themselves out

[brave fiber]

whats more important on voidstrike, dmg vs maniacs or carapace?

[narrow crane]

the mechanics are complicated bc of how many buffs/stacks/crit things psyker has going on, but specifically anything above half charge is more efficient dps:peril gen.

[long wharf]

maniac

[bleak tulip]

maniac

[zinc phoenix]

Or they can force feed psykers mellow yellow to reduce their sperm count

[light belfry]

I don’t think carapace gives you that much of a bp

either you one bang them with surge or you don’t

[long wharf]

not sure Fatshark has that kind of authority nor outreach

[bleak tulip]

if you crit you two shot the crusher, if you dont he falls over and you just keep shooting

[light belfry]

interesting

are there any other states the shot can have besides 0 charge half charge and full charge?

[narrow crane]

itt's really all about bang for your buck, anything less than half charge isnt worth

[long wharf]

it's not 0, 0.5, 1

it's a range, [0..1]

[light belfry]

ok

[zinc phoenix]

This is mostly true except when you need wide area coverage now

[long wharf]

but yes, the time difference for at least charging halfway is negligible

[zinc phoenix]

In which case yeeting out a million big balls >> anything else

[light belfry]

I’m so glad void is busted as shit I already enjoyed this staff last patch

[zinc phoenix]

Like if your team is drowning in dudes spinning 360 while firing min charge void balls can prevent wipes

[bleak tulip]

the knockback is so piss poor thats rarely worth it

min charge right click is a meme

[snow rock]

Anyone wanna share their gunpsyker build?

[light belfry]

I mostly just do it if some little@homie is about to hit me

while I’m aiming shots elsewhere

[bleak tulip]

like come on you only need like 20% charge to kill trash

just wait like .3 seconds

or whatever it is

[long wharf]

it's far less

[bleak tulip]

either way min charge right clicks make me think you dont know what youre doing

[long wharf]

yep

[leaden mica]

alright roast me guys, how am i doing in terms of stats?

[long wharf]

somebody saw it in a youtube video and thinks that it's meta gameplay

[long wharf]

don't bother upgrading unless it's your only surge staff

[bleak tulip]

not great, I assume youre not 30 or not 30 for long yet?

[narrow crane]

easily could be better

[leaden mica]

i hit 30 last friday

[snow rock]

its funny to send out 20 blasts tho

[narrow crane]

also show the perks

[leaden mica]

no sorry, the friday before this one

[narrow crane]

and blessings

[bleak tulip]

keep it blue youll find better

[leaden mica]

its been impossible to find anything better for roughly 2 weeks now lol+

[long wharf]

.... why is your pfp a topless grandpa?

[bleak tulip]

key look you even got decent stuff for free, dont go wasting mats on this

[snow rock]

he a topless granda

[fluid girder]

why isn't yours?

[narrow crane]

2 weeks searching for something bnetter than 350n is a lie

[leaden mica]

what does 350n even mean

[bleak tulip]

base rating

[narrow crane]

typo

[leaden mica]

help out this grandpa

[narrow crane]

350 base rating is garb

[snow rock]

you been buying the white ones in the armoury?

[leaden mica]

nope, havent bought anything

just waiting for a good drop or a nice melkman refresh

[long wharf]

his name is Sour Milk

[bleak tulip]

dont rely on drops, pool's too diluted, buy white from brunt or buy one from melk

[leaden mica]

yeah i know, but the thing is i havent seen anyting worht buying for a while now lol

[snow rock]

in shop go to brunts armoury you can buy white versions of weps, when lvl 30 buy the wep you want until u get the stats you want

[bleak tulip]

store is also not good because youll only ever get tier 3 blessings at best there, usually lower

[leaden mica]

im sorry, i meant brunt, not melkman lol

[snow rock]

then consecrate at hadron

[bleak tulip]

buy high base rating white or green and hadron yeah

[narrow crane]

you need buy the white weapons from brunts armory until you get a staff with 360+ rating, those are the staves you wanna keep and upgrade

[leaden mica]

rating means more than stats?

[light belfry]

sir lord sire darius melk

[magic vessel]

Gaze build telling me to buy this, but i just don't care for the semi auto las guns

[narrow crane]

idk about those blessings but everything else looks fine about it

[bleak tulip]

those burn stacks are not the same as soulblaze btw

so you dont get anything out of that

besides the base damage

and if you dont wanna use a 12 then dont I guess?

[snow rock]

that ammo gonna be a problem or is it aight?

[bleak tulip]

go do the fun but subobtimal acctran or whatever the auto laser is

[magic vessel]

yeah i like the recon way more

[bleak tulip]

ammo is never a problem

[snow rock]

trying gun psyker out for a bit

[bleak tulip]

just steal from the vet

fuck em

[lime creek]

never settle go for 80% all stats

[bleak tulip]

c: