psyker-class

[obtuse moth]

basically all of this

[bleak tulip]

well yeah I already have all of those fam

still floating three points is what im saying

[obtuse moth]

oh and these

[open crag]

what is gunker?

[bleak tulip]

#psyker-class message

[gusty furnace]

Gun Psyker

[bleak tulip]

gun psyker

[gusty furnace]

Gunker

[open crag]

ah

[bleak tulip]

also because theyre gunky and smelly

[obtuse moth]

^ things that buff damage that isnt just warp damage

[tacit tide]

ive always never like playing gun pysker, but now with these knives its all ive been playing lol,

[grim basalt]

anyone who has a lot of hours and xp on psyker willing to give me some pointers in dm?

[bleak tulip]

you just pointed out the things I already picked tho

its like youre not reading what I write

[obtuse moth]

the point was what you said

[bleak tulip]

and you still float three points after picking them all

I didnt say there is nothing

come on man

I guess to spend everything you just go warp charges since they dont really require warp damage

still kinda think disrupt is better generally but I havent really played with scriers so maybe the CDR is super value

[obtuse moth]

i think theres a plethora of things if you're going to say that, you didn't pick all of them, ps theres also the soulblaze on elite and special kill

[bleak tulip]

final offer

this is prob what I'd run, if I had to run gunker, which I dont

[brazen warren]

after playing disrupt destiny for a minute, it seems to me that the true benefit of it is the 20% move speed whenever shooters are nearby

you just zoom zoom around

otherwise it is to hard to stack up consistently to a point where the other parts of the effect are meaningful

[bleak tulip]

alternatively use assail and feel bad that youre forced into a useless talent but at least you have assail

[lavish forge]

How to fix this

im guessing maniac or carapace damage instead of weakspot

[brazen warren]

scriers gaze lets you walk really really fast with DD when gunners show up, power walk towards them and throw sharp rocks

they break pretty fast

[bleak tulip]

warp flurry up to 4, change weak spot for cara or flak prob?

mabye you dont need flak anymore because you just kill maulers for free now with the surge damage buff but yeah

[lavish forge]

thats what im thinking I would love unyielding and carapace

if you think the blessings are good enough

[brazen warren]

depends on what you use it for mostly, i find add clear is not great with surge because of a lack of jumps

[bleak tulip]

you already blow up crushers with surge from what Ive seen, do you really need cara?

[brazen warren]

so i would go carapace

[bleak tulip]

its so limited

only works on one enemy

[lavish forge]

im using it in an assail build, assial kills most things

[brazen warren]

yep

[lavish forge]

change unarmoured to unyielding for boss damage?

[obtuse moth]

idk if unyielding is worth on surge

[bleak tulip]

I have a hard time believing youre doing any notable boss damage with surge

[raw token]

are there any actual knife builds?

[brazen warren]

surge is not great for bosses

[obtuse moth]

are you talking floaty knives or bleedy knives

[bleak tulip]

mettle, disrupt destiny

[agile acorn]

what did they change on voidstrike to make it better than before? (I didn't use it before, that's why I'm asking)

[raw token]

bleedy sorry

[raw token]

i mean more what blessings

[brazen warren]

only gun I have seen do any kind of respectable damage to bosses is vraks mk3 with critical damage boost

[lavish forge]

flak damage then for shooter elites?

[obtuse moth]

lacerate uncanny maybe

[bleak tulip]

oh no idea personally, bleed and crit or whatever you knife people run

[raw token]

doesnt seem like the best synergy

[obtuse moth]

i realise one is weakspot and one is nonweakspot

[bleak tulip]

flak is the most value overall in terms of enemies it affects

[brazen warren]

The new blitz options make it a more valuable pick to cover burst damage in many builds

[obtuse moth]

bleed caps super fast, and rending is super useful, it lets you kill hard targets with headshot and also makes the bleed you incidentally or intentionally stack effective

[lavish forge]

So i reckon flak and cara damage and keep the blessings? you think?

[brazen warren]

since you wont take BB 99% of the time when using void due to them stepping on eachothers toes

[obtuse moth]

if you dont care about bleed for bosses, you have a lot more options

[spice veldt]

void did get significantly buffed

[bleak tulip]

lv2 flurry is pretty bad...

[agile acorn]

really?

huh

[obtuse moth]

um...

[lavish forge]

well i prefer cara over flak

whats worse, unarmoured damage or flurry 2

[brazen warren]

did not know, thanks and i changed my post

[obtuse moth]

oh is that from syllogism

[bleak tulip]

out of my depth at this point, I dont run surge, flurry 2 isnt great, and its not a horde clear, theyre both bad

[spice veldt]

it's from the update post on the fatshark forums

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-13-class-overhaul-part-2/83182

[brazen warren]

when you accidentally say something was not buffed that was

[obtuse moth]

test your staff and build to see what breakpoints you hit in the meatgrinder

then you'll know based on the performance and your personal preference of targets

[agile acorn]

so that's why people are complaining that it's OP all over reddit

[brazen warren]

from in game use my surge and VS are both killing crushers in 3 hits

[lavish forge]

I can hit a 2 hit BP on crushers with cara, its a 4 hit without it flak doesnt seem as useful

just unarmoured is worthless is my issue

[obtuse moth]

if youre running a surge voidstaff and you get a proc you should be able to one-shot a crusher

[bleak tulip]

I think weak spot doesnt work at all on surge right click so unless youre a left clicker too that one prob goes first

stop me if I'm wrong tho

[obtuse moth]

you get 4x damage, 4x stagger, and more than 2x cleave when you crit on a surge voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

again, dont play surge

[lavish forge]

yeah of course, just unarmoured stuck there and it sucks

[bleak tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

go do what noth said and test breakpoints if you really wanna min max it but that stick is never gonna be perfect

[agile acorn]

feel like they should lessen the secondary base damage to 365, 695 and impact to 40 instead of 45

[wise ruin]

What melee are u guys running now?

[obtuse moth]

so the question is cara + flurry2 vs unarmored + flurry4?

[bleak tulip]

illisi, deimos, duel 4

no particular order

[wise ruin]

What about ranged weapons? Can't decide between void or purgatus but I've seen ppl runing the ground one

[azure veldt]

Hello, siblings.

I need help/advice please.

Any tips on how to get the warp 🔮 battery 🔋 penance?

On several T4 matches (including a HiSTG) I've gone the whole game without using my blitz, but never kept my max charges for 300s (5 minutes).

The most I got so far is 266s and it's driving me Bananas.

[bleak tulip]

void is overtuned right now, purg is fine and trauma is still solid

[near gale]

sigh I am really annoyed about the run I did with my psyker. Assail seems to build up peril faster than I keep track of, since I am not used to it... this caused me to blow up twice, since I had the shield instead of venting shriek...

[bleak tulip]

youll get used to it

dont use all charges

[azure veldt]

Are you using the warp charges keystone?

6 warp charges and peril resistance really helps.

[near gale]

These are the 1st 2 times I've blown up, by accident, in like... 9 months. :/

I am using Empowered Psionics

[bleak tulip]

emp makes it pretty inconsistent thats for sure

[azure veldt]

Try switching. Keep warp rider from the psionics line though.

Empowered psionkcs doesn't help assail much. It only benefits one Shard *per charge

Warp charges give you a lot more benefit.

Imo

[bleak tulip]

people whos opinion I trust generally say its solid for assail

fwiw

[obtuse moth]

havent tried since the change, but i might suggest play a shock gauntlet match, t5, high intensity shock, or both if you still dont have enough, tons of specials. just always have assail charges in reserve to focus elites and specials. you could also try a full soulblaze build and just keep everything on fire to raise your chances to get a warp charge.

[azure veldt]

Empowered psionics will give you 3 shots at zero peril cost.

Warp charges give you a flat 36% peril reduction cost per shard*

Assuming 6 charges

[obtuse moth]

Empowered psionics is stronger if you want to mostly spam assail, getting constant free charges lets you shoot a lot more

[spice veldt]

though you'll be more limited by ammo than peril with assail

[obtuse moth]

^

[viscid matrix]

both are really good, and you have to pick which one you want
they are about equal to me

[spice veldt]

and EP doubles the amount of targets that each shard can hit

with Ethereal Shards, the target limit gets bumped up from 3 to 6

[obtuse moth]

oh is that why sometimes it just shreds an entire horde

[viscid matrix]

only if you just dump shards constantly, if you aim well, you can send 2/3 of the shards and kill the same ammount of enemies

[spice veldt]

ye

[obtuse moth]

if theres more enemies than shards thats not the case

[spice veldt]

since shards can often be floating in the air

[viscid matrix]

empowerd is 6 enemies per shard

[obtuse moth]

i thought the context here was warp charges vs empowered

[azure veldt]

Warp charges might fix OPs or9ginak question of peril management.

I guess difficulty level played at also matters

[viscid matrix]

tbh i think empowered is better, cause it will mean you have more ammo and you kill enemies faster with the base damage increase that is affected by all damamge buffs

[near gale]

the only thing about empowered shards is they don't consume charges, which makes you able to use the blitz more times :/

[spice veldt]

i blew up 7 times when i first used assail so I don't think that peril resistance would've helped me

[viscid matrix]

each shard is roughly 10 peril, you can tap quell between each shard and stay at 90% permanently

[obtuse moth]

24% damage on all shards vs 50% damage on some shards is meh. but the cleave sounds nice. thats if your damage is mostly assail since EP only buffs blitz and warp charges buff everything

[bleak tulip]

kind of defeats the point of it being a weapon to switch away from but I guess if youre running it like a main weapon

[viscid matrix]

you are forgetting that you dump all charges on ability use

[viscid matrix]

Assail is strong enough right now to be a main weapon

[azure veldt]

Yes but you only get 3 psionic charges max at a time - unless you're laying into specials / triggering the 7.5% or 12.5%

From my experience with warp charges, ammo rather than peril is the limiting factor.

[obtuse moth]

you dont have to dump charges? also its ridiculously easy to get them back in auric damnation

[bleak tulip]

I know, but you should probably not get used to that

[azure veldt]

This.

[bleak tulip]

pretty unlikely itll stay this way for long with how stupidly overtuned it is

[spice veldt]

why not not get used to it

[viscid matrix]

i prefer Palpatine build myself, but running with revolver, duelling sword to backup my assail is just so easy

[spice veldt]

I can always change my build

[obtuse moth]

play with it before you don't have the chance to anymore

[spice veldt]

I transitioned from BB + illisi into assail + mk4 ds perfectly fine

i also switched to bolter vet 2 months before the skill tree update

i'm sure people can make the change as well

[viscid matrix]

assail doesnt rely on good gear, its an easy way to do damnation to get materials and gold to get better gear without holding your allies back

[spice veldt]

abuse that shit and get your money

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can do whatever, I also run void assail right now

[azure veldt]

I think point was for newer players, over reliance on assail (which is silly good t1-t3, maybe t4) will form bad habits and be tough if it gets nerfed.

[bleak tulip]

I just wouldnt recommend getting used to busted shit if you dont play as much as you or me

[spice veldt]

shame

[obtuse moth]

they'll form just as many bad habits running surge voidstrike

[azure veldt]

True

[viscid matrix]

tbh i think they should all abuse assail while they gather good gear in the background

[spice veldt]

the game doesn't really have a good tutorial anyways

[azure veldt]

That's a strong take ngl

[spice veldt]

there's not much of a direction for new players to go if they even want to be better

[azure veldt]

100% agreed. If it wasn't for youtube I'd have spent a lot longer playing without knowing how to active quell.

[spice veldt]

just smash your head into a few games, die, and don't die in the same situation next time

that's basically my strategy for the game

[azure veldt]

Are we perpetually?

Perpetuals *

[obtuse moth]

self reflection and improvement? what is this, mindful meditation?!

[spice veldt]

the game having neat mechanics makes me sad since it's just not explained

[viscid matrix]

kinda wish we could change everything about our characters, since after you fail a mission, you are basicly on a new person

[bleak tulip]

inb4 assail gets nerfed and everyone cries to the heavens that psyker is shit again

[spice veldt]

psword moment

[obtuse moth]

seems like the games with the coolest ones often are like this in my experience

[viscid matrix]

based on what FS is like, we have until 2024 before that happens

[obtuse moth]

i guess the ones that are more laid out tend to turn out like PoE

[azure veldt]

I thought psyker was great hefore patch 13 tbh...

It's the class I enjoy playing the most and do the best with.

[obtuse moth]

you can change the height with a mod if thats what you want. besides that i thin kyou can change everything at the barber besides your backstory

[viscid matrix]

it was the weakest class, but at least able to do all the content, now its probably 2nd strongest

[bleak tulip]

I mean I basically dont play anything but psyker, I just mean there is a sharp increase in lv 35 psykers lately that likely wont be there anymore once void and assail get nerfed

[viscid matrix]

nah i mean change back story, voice, planet origin and such

[spice veldt]

i don't think psyker was that weak before, but you were limited to specific builds for optimality

[azure veldt]

Does that mean your hitbox in game stays the same but you cN look over/under things easier?

I assume height affects hitbox

[obtuse moth]

no... your height affects your hitbox in this game...

and what you can hit

and hide behind

[azure veldt]

Yes but does the mod change that your end but also server end too?

[obtuse moth]

yes

[bleak tulip]

psyker was fine, you just basically had like two builds that were viable for the highest difficulty content

[obtuse moth]

it changes it permanently

even if you uninstall mod

[manic halo]

gun psyker report

its bad

[viscid matrix]

overall psyker were pretty balanced before, but anything psyker could do, everyone else did it better
except CC with surge staff

[dense bramble]

What do you guys think of the new blitzes?

[azure veldt]

Good to know.

Tbh I love my midget psyker. She has to jump to get bb locks at times 😅

[dense bramble]

I really like assail but Im a shitter

[obtuse moth]

psyker soulblaze was pretty unique, and its capacity for infinite aoe cc

[brazen warren]

gunker is actually decent, but it is relegated to crusher/boss dps in the kit instead of just having your gun out most of the time

[viscid matrix]

Assail is overtuned
smite is nice but has a bug that needs to be fixed to stop it being op
BR is about the same as before

[bleak tulip]

trauma tho

[dim parrot]

u make me feel like a giant :(

[viscid matrix]

Bolter

[bleak tulip]

who did "fuck up the entire mixed horde" while stunlocking them better

[dense bramble]

It feels like BB is just kinda sad now though. Even with 6 stacks its damage is sad.

[viscid matrix]

Ogryn - Knocking everything on its ass
Zealot - Flamer

[azure veldt]

Empowered BB is chef's kiss

[brazen warren]

smite damage buff should be upped to 36% imo

the applied buff that is, just make it cost more peril to maintain

[bleak tulip]

trauma did both in one weapon tho

[viscid matrix]

nah its good, Assail is just overtuned and overshadows it

[dense bramble]

Is that what Ive been doing wrong Ive been using warp charges

[bleak tulip]

also purg still existed

[viscid matrix]

Bolter does that too

[obtuse moth]

36%? thats too strong i think lol, maybe 20-25%

[viscid matrix]

Zealot Flamer was the same as purga but more damage

[bleak tulip]

for 3 seconds then it had to reload

[brazen warren]

BB is in a spot where you cannot easily build warp charges for just killing whatever anymore, so your consistency flew out the window

[azure veldt]

I find empowered BB is faster and punchier - and as you target elites/specials with it, you never run out of psionic charges.

[brazen warren]

yeah, empower is probably the new best way to use BB

[viscid matrix]

sure, ammo issues is the only thing that psyker didnt have to deal with, it didnt matter

before this class overhaul, anything the psyker could do, other classes could do it better

[dense bramble]

I never thought of it like that. i kept trying to make my old build

pre rework i mean

[brazen warren]

did they nerf the machine pistol?

[obtuse moth]

even with an empowered, shouty, faster when i shout bb build, i end up switching off bb to my weapon

[azure veldt]

No? I don't think so.

[brazen warren]

hmm

[spice veldt]

pinning fire got knocked down from 100% power to 25% power at max stacks

[viscid matrix]

i dont think it got a buff or nerf
a lot of other weapons got buffed

[azure veldt]

Which is fair.

[brazen warren]

ah, that explains why it feels off now

[viscid matrix]

i forgot that happened 😄

[spice veldt]

rip bozo

[bleak tulip]

rip in piss that stupid weapon

[fierce crest]

That still seems pretty good

[keen harbor]

machinepistol is still okay

[bleak tulip]

"okay" is where it belongs

[summer prairie]

Assail projectile is supposed to have 2.5s lifetime, aimed 3s and aimed "piercing" 3.5s (which I think is EP)

[keen harbor]

Yeah, they aren't the braindead choice anymore, along with bolter

[sinful olive]

just rolled

[neat pecan]

Does anoint have a good scriers gaze build for psyker with revolver?

[plucky flax]

Go shred or riposte.

[inland glen]

Erm, hello psyker gamers. Does the Smite crit? Or at least have a chance to crit?

[charred shuttle]

No clue but if nobody responds and you want to know fast you can try in Psykanium

[inland glen]

Mm, true. Thank you.

[charred shuttle]

I always keep a "testing" loadout tab when I want to check a specific talent or something

[near gale]

I think I am starting to get the hang of how to use assail. >.>'

[viscid matrix]

#1158835513789272126

[viscid matrix]

it has no crit by default, but getting crit on talent tree gives it crit

its damage is like 80dps
so with the small amount of crit it might reach 110dps

its not good for damage
you are better off using it what it was made for
CC and locking down a room

[inland glen]

I gotchu. I just think that "Mettle" might be good with smite and crit procs (Critical Hits replenish 5% Toughness & Also grants +5% increased movement Speed for 4s. Stacks 3 times.)

[balmy flax]

Does mk4 even cleave enough to be able to proc rampage? If it can its good ofc

[viscid matrix]

use the push to hit 3 enemies at once

only thing that can

[balmy flax]

Ah, ok. Ty. You mean push and not pushattack to be clear?

[viscid matrix]

the push

i use this, cause id rather just keep swinging and getting a high crit chance

[balmy flax]

Yeah also got a rending shred one. Dislike chained hits typically though since I may need to block or such.

[viscid matrix]

the time between chained hits is forgiving

also push counts as a hit

[balmy flax]

Some useful info that, ty

[charred shuttle]

Very low overall rating, trying to roll a 370+, but damn I kinda like the stat distribution. What do you think people?

[vestal fulcrum]

If you can live with that quell speed, I’d say it’s fine

At least the upgrades will be slightly cheaper… but your chance of getting higher tier blessings will not be as great

[balmy flax]

I like swapping to staff for faster quellspeed, like it alot. I wouldnt go for that unless you have plasteel to waste and not enough stonks to buy more grays.

[potent echo]

if you take 30% quell speed talent should be around the same (maybe)

[onyx sentinel]

I thought I've seen footage of psyker with a bar-styled peril meter back in the beta, am I misremembering

[potent echo]

yea you did

they changed it

[onyx sentinel]

huh I kinda liked it

[potent echo]

same, you can bring it back with mods though

but sometimes big number easier to see in the thicc of things so i prefer the new one, out of functionality

[onyx sentinel]

yeah I figured that, but nexus doesn't show anything

[potent echo]

i think its on of the hud mods

[charred shuttle]

Wait, lower rating means crappier blessing rolls?

[vestal fulcrum]

I’ve no data to confirm this claim, but it appears to be so from my experience with crafting

[charred shuttle]

Hm, ok, thanks

[vestal fulcrum]

Also, first blessing roll is less likely to be a high tier blessing (4) than an item that is being upgraded to transcendent/orange quality

[spice veldt]

there's no bar UI for peril currently

[jaunty rapids]

What the flavor of the month melee weapon for Psyker?

[vestal fulcrum]

Dueling sword 4 appears to be popular

But force swords are still more than decent

[charred shuttle]

Oh damn forgot I had this

[spice veldt]

mk4 babeee https://streamable.com/77q3s6

(this demonstration has a +carapace +elite DS, and you wouldn't usually run +elite on a DS but I forgot I had it)

[potent echo]

maybe my memory is messing with me, or the old mod doesnt exist anymore, dont think i can find it either sorry

[spice veldt]

w/o +elite or high enough stats on your DS (nearly 80 on all offensive stats), you need warp rider to two-shot crushers with fully uncanny strike stacks and at least one crit

[glossy hazel]

Bro is playing with Valheim graphics

[cyan notch]

not even level 1000

[cinder mesa]

[spice veldt]

ultrathin laptop gaming

[strong pilot]

Plague-dough Ogryn

[onyx sentinel]

ah well all good

[modern bronze]

ultrasmall head gaming

[cyan notch]

how much does the special stab do

[spice veldt]

it inflicts depression

[sonic coral]

what does right holding the new knife throw for psyker do

right clicking

[tacit tide]

lets you aim it

[thin finch]

Man really want that DRG aesthetic

[tacit tide]

hit an enemy in particular

[sonic coral]

huh. I guess that's what I figured but it doesn't really work super well

[tacit tide]

i use it to hit enemies at range

[sonic coral]

that makes sense

[viscid matrix]

it lights up enemy heads with the BB blue

and you throw your assail at that particular target

[sonic coral]

is there any use for smite? it seems like just a very piss weak staff that locks down a little better.

[thin finch]

Some guy filmee itself flicking line hell and still hitting

[sonic coral]

Any synergies or anything that make it better

[thin finch]

Durge don't lock anymore as well so it's old surge for Cc with less damage

[sonic coral]

Interesting, alright

[lime creek]

What curious do you guys run? I’m assuming all toughness right

[thin finch]

Surge turned into a single target locker with high damage ,it's weird ,but after trying it 2 times Ibm do like it

[gentle rose]

It competes with assail imo as long as the unlimited power bug remains, I've used it to lock down like 6 crushers and a bunch of maulers in auric maelstrom

[thin finch]

At least one wound

[lime creek]

Really? Why? Just don’t go down

[plucky flax]

All hp.

[sonic coral]

unlimited power bug? is this related to warp charge generation?

[viscid matrix]

depends on what you prefer

some of us run full toughness
i and some others run full hp

if you are running wounds you are playing to go down

[sonic coral]

I'm trying to actively avoid bugs that will fuck me later lol

[azure veldt]

Is Toughness regen useful on curios since patch?

[viscid matrix]

abuse the fuck out of Assail until you get some really good weapons

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fgebio7n_w

[lime creek]

Gotcha I think I’ll go toughness then

[viscid matrix]

the regen is alright

[gentle rose]

Sometimes (like 50% of the time) if you are running smite and I think the middle keystone talents, the game just forgets to charge you peril for smiting, and you can hold down smite forever

[azure veldt]

I also recently learnt that general corruption resistance also applies to grimoires. So switched my grim resistance to general corruption res.

[viscid matrix]

its a bug, Empower applys the 100% peril reduction to everything

[viscid matrix]

most players dont pick up grims at all, not worth the corruption

the reward is garbage

[azure veldt]

Yeah the bugged smite is silly. If you're willing to dodge crab walk the entire game you never have to stop expect or ledges up and down etc.

[plucky flax]

I disagree it's near 11k per grim.

[viscid matrix]

you get so many empowers why waste time on only maintaining the one

[gentle rose]

I'm pretty certain I've seen it charge me peril even when I had a charge of empowered psionics though. It seems more variable from my testing, but might be wrong

[azure veldt]

100% agreed. But I solo quickplay... it's like the hidden difficulty setting 😅

[viscid matrix]

sure, but a lot of players dont want to play with the corruption

[azure veldt]

For the lulz. But you're right it isn't needed

[plucky flax]

Too bad if the mission has grims I'm picking it.

[azure veldt]

[viscid matrix]

last time i did that, the 3 other randoms left the game 😄

[gentle rose]

I usually ask, but my experience is if you ask on quick play people always say yes

[vestal rose]

pubs dont want you to know this, but the grimoires in tertium are free
you can just pick them up ive collected like 500 grimoires

[gentle rose]

I've never had anyone say no since the new patch

[plucky flax]

My opinion is don't play grim mission and if you expect to not get corruption.

[thin finch]

Do not abuse the fuck out of assail it will teach you bad habbit

[sonic coral]

Yea I've tried it and it makes me feel like the game is playing for me

[viscid matrix]

wrong, abuse the fuck out of it until you have good weapons

FS wont fix it for at least a couple of months

[azure veldt]

When I was under 10 hours in and still didn't hnderstand grim mechanics... I thought that holding down right trigger in grim equipped was what you were meant to do... like why would you hold an evil book to slowly gain corruption?

Man... people were maaaaaaad AF

[sonic coral]

I'm interested in trying smite but if that's broken too...

Feel like the only "right" move for me to make is just to replicate my old builds

[thin finch]

Just don't use it with empowered psionic and you are good

[sonic coral]

which is a bummer

[viscid matrix]

only if you take empower keystone with it

go warpcharges and it works as it is supposed to

[thin finch]

Use it with scrier's gaze for funny moment

[azure veldt]

Yes but smite is also somewhat underwhelming compared to assail. Excellent cc yes. But still.

[sonic coral]

OK got it, just avoid the middle purple at the bottom

[arctic vector]

tf is going on with the exploits on psyker man

[sonic coral]

blowing up?

[halcyon creek]

I was under the impression that corrupt resist either 1) didn’t affect either grim effect, or 2) only reduced the initial burst of corruption but didn’t do anything about the corruption tick damage. Is this impression mistaken?

[viscid matrix]

empower with assail is playing as its supposed to, and assail is only overtuned because the game is way to liberal with ammo for it

[arctic vector]

I wanna try psyonics and get infinite smite. I go for warp siphon and get 100% cd on shield

[thin finch]

Ofc Assail is kind of broken rn from it's rate of use to its damage.
But smite is one ,if not the best cc right now

[viscid matrix]

if assail had half the ammo and half the ammo regen, it would be balanced

[azure veldt]

Tbh I'm only going on hearsay. I don't know how general corruption resistance affects grimoire corruption... only that it does. Apparently.

[arctic vector]

I don't wanna get used to playing a broken build but I want smite and shield. So what do I do? Get disrupt destiny?

[azure veldt]

Warp charge might be better?

Peril resistance useful

[vestal fulcrum]

What ranged weapon do you want to use?

[halcyon creek]

I just gotta learn more then. Thanks for the info!

[arctic vector]

Purgatus or Surge, didn't decide yet

Leaning on surge because of the great elite damage

[spice veldt]

general corruption res affects both the initial corruption and the ticking effect

you prob have that impression from the early days of the game

[vestal fulcrum]

You are missing out on a lot of benefits from Disrupt Destiny then, but you probably should be fine with playing Warp charges

[spice veldt]

and the inanity of the fact that there's corruption res specifically for grimoires

and that it's not even a substantial improvement over the general corruption res

[halcyon creek]

Oops! All my characters have a bit of grim resist in their curios out of sheer habit… now I know a little bit how it’s like to be in the Cult Mechanicus

[arctic vector]

Could you maybe reiterate? Will disrupt destiny be good for me or not? The shield gets 100% cd which is prob a bug with warp siphon and that bothers me

[plucky flax]

Purely for grimoire corruption tho grim resist is still stronger.

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d avoid Disrupt Destiny in your build idea

[silent bay]

for anyone else that uses the true lvl mod, wouldn't a total lvl of 61 be prestige 2 not 3?

[plucky flax]

It'll give you more hp.

[vestal fulcrum]

And the shield being recharged instantly on warp charge expenditures is surely a bug that will be fixed, but bug or not, it will support the playstyle more, at least in my view

[plucky flax]

Because of level scaling. Every level after 30 require the same amount of exp as 29->30. So perhaps it works out so that to get to level 61 = getting to level 30 3 times.

[silent bay]

ahh i see

so prestige just takes into the account the 1-30 xp total, where total lvl is different amount of xp

makes sense, ty

[plucky flax]

They changed it a few months ago so that after level 24 you need a lot of exp to level up.

[silent bay]

yeah ive been tryin to get my other classes up to 30 and its certainly not as fun playign with poopoo wpns

[slate sun]

XD

I was laughing so hard in the end

13 deaths

[umbral jetty]

400 hours in this game.. still not certain what all constitutes a 'warp' attack

are all staves warp attacks?

Force Sword Specials

[little panther]

my actual nightmare of matchmaking

[umbral jetty]

And then blitz?

[royal granite]

leave immediately

[plucky flax]

Why psykers are op right now.

I'd leave if it was 4 vets but 4 psykers is ez mode.

It's like 4 vets pre-patch.

[royal granite]

yeah it's also not fun is the thing

[slate sun]

and yet, I had 3 assail psykers last match - still 13 deaths 😄

[plucky flax]

It's just plasteels picking time.

[cyan notch]

13

[umbral jetty]

most fun i've had so far is 4 zealots

[cyan notch]

deaths?

[slate sun]

yes

[cyan notch]

how tf

[slate sun]

precisely 😄

Dreyko and they wouldn't scan anything in the last bit

just kept throwing darts

[royal granite]

my conclusion is that assail psykers are largely carried, my reasoning is that when the patch came out i ran assail and voidstrike on aurics and i was sleepwalking

[viscid matrix]

why? you have a smite and a bunch of shields along with 3 assail
if one of them went gunker would have been set

[gritty tapir]

With so many randoms in the Investigation missions I do all of them until the last one then sit there until the others learn how to do it.

[slate sun]

Dreyko is especially nasty at the very end

if you can't cooperate and/or have crowd clearence

if you just spam darts at poxwalkers you're doomed

[plucky flax]

All 3 psykers used different staves and different blitz and the whole team did good damage it was such a good match making.

[royal granite]

tell you what though the most rancid player i've ever seen was an ogryn who would watch his teammates like a hawk and take medicae charges from them if he didn't think they were contributing enough

[viscid matrix]

not really, its mostly trash with a few maulers and muties mixed in
the few guners that do spawn are always from up top where you came in

[slate sun]

there are gunners, shotgunners and some bombers

if you don't eliminate them and tunel vision on the walkers - 13 deaths

plus assail doesn't have an AMAZING horde clear

honestly ...

[royal granite]

assail horde clear is fantastic if you pace yourself

[plucky flax]

It's better horde clear than voidstrike.

[royal granite]

depends

[slate sun]

oooh I beg to differ

😄

[royal granite]

in a hallway voidstrike is a lot better

but if you don't have a chokepoint, yeah assail

[whole oxide]

wdym, void has infinite cleave and blast radius the size of the moon

[plucky flax]

Hrm weird when I play meme assail void I only use void for crushers and bulwarks.

[whole oxide]

reddit told me so

[viscid matrix]

blast radius is tiny

[plucky flax]

Literally 90% of the map I use assail.

5% sword 5% voidstrike.

[slate sun]

keep doing that maybe they'll nerf it later on 🙂

[sturdy dagger]

correct me if im wrong but i feel like assail falls off a cliff in higher difficulties, what are my funny crystals gonna do to the 6 crushers sprinting towards me

[royal granite]

nothing, bring another sollution

[sturdy dagger]

meanwhile smite

[cyan notch]

poke em with your fencing sword

[viscid matrix]

nah its still good, cause in high tier content, the other 3 in the squad have stuff that is good for the bosses and carapace

[whole oxide]

thats why you have multiple tools, gunners still exist on higher difficulties, assail is still amazing on them

[spice veldt]

assail opens up your ranged/melee weapons to be anti-armour

it's psyker's autopistol

[plucky flax]

Broken meme build in melee only modifier veri ez assail spamming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv82gJBhZyo

[royal granite]

assail is only bad at higher difficulties if you try to use it and nothing else

it can still obliterate gunners and ragers

[slate sun]

exactly

[sturdy dagger]

ive actually yet to use that

[viscid matrix]

you are looking at assail as just you doing stuff in a mission
usualy what ends up happeneing if the other players know you are assail only, they focus on the heavly armoured enemies

[royal granite]

in my experience someone who relies on assail entirely in auric d5 will at some point get cocky and get themselves obliterated

[spice veldt]

the duelly can two-shot crushers/maulers so there's that (or voidstrike/trauma/surge)

[cyan notch]

@spice veldt post the clip

[sturdy dagger]

or they mald they arent getting kills and just leave, das my lobbies atleast

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[plucky flax]

dats me

[viscid matrix]

dont quickplay into pugs? there are voice channels to set up a squad here

[spice veldt]

(i'd bring Riposte/Precognition to melee maelstrom but Shred was used for the demonstration)

[sturdy dagger]

what in the godamm

[deft osprey]

Does deflector work on snipers? Cuz I was blocking everything then a sniper just nearly killed me

[viscid matrix]

and that is without Scriers and DD stacks 😄

[sturdy dagger]

so ive been playing with 2 friends who are new to the game and the 4th rando we get every time is...

[spice veldt]

39% crit chance attainable w/o scrier's btw

[royal granite]

i don't blame people for leaving when they see assail, i've been maining purge and BB to do the awful, awful penances, and the presence of an assail psyker means i probably won't have very much to do

[spice veldt]

so it's fairly reliable that you can just two-shot crushers

[last kayak]

I present to you all my Psyker, Bobby Yaga

[royal granite]

mostly i'm just brain bursting tanky targets and hoping i get the killing blow by accident

[whole oxide]

no

[royal granite]

it doesn't help that some of the penances require you to intentionally play badly

[viscid matrix]

Sniper dont shoot a projectile

[royal granite]

it works on other las weapons

sniper's long-las just blows through your block

[spice veldt]

sniper's shot is just tagged to be unblockable

[viscid matrix]

never attempt penances in a pug

get a group in the #vox-lfg-lexicanum channels to work together to get pennances complete

[royal granite]

it's like a crusher overhead

hell no

[viscid matrix]

its not a projectile, it cant be blocked by anything except a ogryn shield

[potent echo]

ogryn can block sniper shots

source, me who block sniper shots

[royal granite]

sibling almost every weapon in this game is hitscan, there are very few projectiles

[spice veldt]

other ranged attacks that you can block are also hitscan

[sturdy dagger]

thats insane and all but as a life support player without most good blessings who may or may not be using blue/purple weapons is it still worth using over something versatile like a standard chainsword? that nonexistant stamina worries me

[potent echo]

oh nvm my reading comprehension

[viscid matrix]

sniper shot isnt a projectile, everything else is

[potent echo]

also technically a FS deflector can block it

[spice veldt]

there's the Kinetic Deflection talent which allows you to use your peril to block instead of stamina

[potent echo]

but you still get dunked on, AND you lose all your stamina

[royal granite]

none of the gunners fire projectiles it's all hitscan

[spice veldt]

the MK4 is fairly specced into single-target, but Psyker's ranged options is filled with hordeclear/CC, and you can even use Assail for hordeclear

[cyan notch]

lol

[spice veldt]

attacks from gunners/stalkers/shooters are hitscan

[lethal folio]

Dueling swords have low block cost and strong sprints, the stamina is fine.

[potent echo]

they can do the heavy attack slide nonsense to make you zoom around

[lethal folio]

With a stamina curio your weapon base doesn't matter.

[last kayak]

Anyway

[royal granite]

sniper shots work the same way as gunner shots, they are hitscan with no projectile

[potent echo]

be sure to pick loner

[last kayak]

I took Savant

[potent echo]

true also

[cyan notch]

chord do be fun

[last kayak]

This is gonna be my actual psyker

I made a few ones before but could never truly commit to the class

I'm doing my hardest to stick with this one

[slate sun]

my favorite are revolver + axe/knife fellows, if you get 3 of them there is no horde clear

[royal granite]

will you commit to this program?

[tacit urchin]

do purgatus staves have a place now

[last kayak]

Yes

[slate sun]

sure, works very similar to the way it did before

[royal granite]

purgatus is good if you feel gross using voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Yeah but not as good as blaze trauma.

[tacit urchin]

blaze trauma?

[plucky flax]

Trauma staff with blazing spirits blessing.

It's op but voidstrike is taking all the heat.

[slate sun]

it was always better than voidstrike, not now thankfully 🙂

[tacit urchin]

you're going down a list of every term I don't know

[viscid matrix]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[plucky flax]

It doesn't kill crushers and bulwarks as good as void but does everything else equal and better.

Mixed horde clearing in particular.

[spice veldt]

trauma is a lot of safety for a dumdum like me

you are basically never dying to melee except to monsters or if you kite into a corner with 1000 crushers behind you

or if you forget that you took off focused channeling, hittrade, and then die to a crusher overhead

[royal granite]

trauma must be great for saving your own bacon when a mutie chucks you into the densest possible horde

[sturdy dagger]

right but he was replying to me a "life support" player thats my way of saying im poor and havent transitioned into late game yet so i dont really have that, all 3 of my curious rn are just toughness

[plucky flax]

Are you finally running a blaze trauma yet?

[spice veldt]

i'm running blazing spirit + rending shockwave yeah

[spice veldt]

fishing for dem crits with True Aim

[tacit urchin]

I swear I haven't seen soulblaze on crit perk yet

[royal granite]

WHAT IS THAT

[last kayak]

The schnauser

[plucky flax]

[royal granite]

that looks like a legendary piece of shit

[last kayak]

Cause it is

[plucky flax]

Rending shockwave in 2023.

[slate sun]

the ultimate single target weapon ?

[last kayak]

Kah-ren might be my commit to psyker character

[spice veldt]

😔

[last kayak]

But also my joke character

[spice veldt]

I should just run focused channeling + blazing spirit

i'm too used to having focused channeling

[plucky flax]

Do you left click for true aim?

[spice veldt]

nah i rely on my duelling sword

[plucky flax]

Or you know just run warp nexus.

[spice veldt]

the bolt LMB requires you to aim and manage your True Aim stacks in real time and who would ever do that

[plucky flax]

But you gotta be weird.

[spice veldt]

i don't like spamming trauma for a probablistic effect

[tacit urchin]

So why is soulblaze good, what kind of damage per tic are you reaching

[spice veldt]

using on trauma on hordes is still right on the edge of my comfrt zone

soulblaze is pretty mediocre damage

it's just that its application methods spread it in an area

so while soulblaze ticking on one target isn't remarkable, it is often ticking on many, many targets

[royal granite]

hundreds on non-carapace

[spice veldt]

and spreading soulblaze is usually a free action

[royal granite]

just gotta figure out how to stack it up fast enough

[sturdy dagger]

i just clocked u went for the head on the mauler even though thats the only carapaced part, do crits ignore armor or do u have some bonus against carapace?

[tacit urchin]

relying on trauma staff to crit doesn't sound like fast application 🤷‍♂️

[spice veldt]

duelling swords have the Uncanny Strike blessing which grants +rending%

+Rending% contributes an additive effect to your armour damage modifiers

if your attack deals 20% damage to Carapace, then +50% rending means that your attack now deals 70% damage to carapace

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/qP0kFOiV6ag

[spice veldt]

and any rending% past 100% damage to a particular armour type has 0.25x effectiveness

[sturdy dagger]

[spice veldt]

so if your attack deals 100% damage to an armour type, and you had +100% rending, then your attack will now deal 125% damage to that armour type

(Rending doesn't work on Unarmoured/Infested armour types, but it works on everything else)

coincidentally, Uncanny Strike gives up to 120% rending, and you stack it by just hitting heads

pretty easy condition for what is a very good effect

(it's why I'm smacking the head of the plague ogryn in that video)

[thin finch]

Smack head

Turns brain into sashimi

[slate sun]

has anyone tried out the updated catachan blades / chain swords on the psyker?

I heard good things

catachan should be pretty decent as a horde clear melee weapon right?

or does it still have no comparison to illisi?

[wise pecan]

On psyker, no, but I've been enjoying the devil's claw sword on my vet

Illisi has infinite dodges and Deflector perk, so I see no reason to ever take devil's claw over it

[royal granite]

parrying ragers is very funny

[slate sun]

it does seem to lack the "umpf" it had pre patch though ... the blade just stops on walkers if I'm not fully pimped (6 warp charges and all else)

I mean illisi

[royal granite]

it's a bit odd that the big heavy jungle machete is what gets the parry and not the duelling sword, but whatever i guess

[copper charm]

What is the official in-lore name of psyker's third branch?
There are psychokinetisist, protectorate, but who's the third?

[summer prairie]

was gunslinger at some point at least

[last kayak]

Psyker-sized autogun

[carmine agate]

i realized i was a midget psyker

when i was standing beside other psykers

[azure veldt]

If you can get soulblaze to synergise with crits, the stacks can do quite a bit of damage.

[azure veldt]

Jack Black / Tenacious D?

MIND BULLETS.

That's telekinesis, Kyle...

Ngl. I am often humming wonderboy in my head whilst using assail...

[royal granite]

telekine maybe?

[potent echo]

Duelling sword you get the fencing stab, staggers the ragers

[thick carbon]

Thank you, worked when I went to play this morning, so yea, that probably was the issue

[spice veldt]

rumbling and tumbling ragers https://streamable.com/ne9i5s

rending still affecting stagger is funny

[potent echo]

ive never seen a rager stagger from a H1

thats interesting

or is that the special

[spice veldt]

that's the h1 but with the stagger bonus from >50% rending

and a crit

[potent echo]

im surprised he lived

[lunar hollow]

the rager lives in fear of the thin pointy metal thing

[spice veldt]

what a DS w/o +maniac does to a mf

[potent echo]

i guess with the stagger he's already dead

[spice veldt]

rip bozo

[hollow saddle]

Best build for psyker whit voidstrike?

[plucky flax]

Imo assail voidstrike and just use assail. Xd

[fresh reef]

Basically anything, tbh

Void is overtuned as hell rn

[hollow saddle]

I already do that

But I want maximum efficiency

[potent echo]

Void smite because you need to nerf yourself somehow

[drowsy slate]

What are best daimos blessings?

[strong pilot]

holy fuck why do people hate Assail so much, psykers spent a better half of the year being the runt of the 4 and when they finally get something shiny everyone wants it taken from them

[cold oasis]

I mean, it is oppressively op

[still hearth]

No one wants to take Assail from Psyker they just want it to not be the best option pretty much always for Psyker

Unless they're dumb but then what can you do

[cold oasis]

I mean technically with a good team smite is probably better, the problem is that you can't have a single class dealing the damage of 3 other people alone

[edgy ibex]

Assail is boring as shit to me cant use it

[glad meadow]

say

[onyx sentinel]

is Warp Nexus + Blazing Spirit on trauma staff still a thing

[glad meadow]

can anyone give me a pic of the psycher krieg helm?

[onyx sentinel]

sounds okay in theory

[still hearth]

No because with a good team

[glad meadow]

does it show your hair?

[still hearth]

Smite is terrible

And you shouldn't have to use it

[glad meadow]

can anyone give me a pic of the psycher krieg helm?
does the krieg helm show your hair?

[unique mist]

no

[edgy ibex]

Free long range spreading cc that can continue after lock is trash

[glad meadow]

what about this one?

[edgy ibex]

Makes sense

[still hearth]

Yeah because it also makes you do 0 damage

So you're just sitting there like an idiot while the rest has to kill even more

[edgy ibex]

That’s what CC is usually

Lol

[glad meadow]

dang, that too bad

[still hearth]

Meanwhile Trauma, Voidstrike

And even Purgatus

CCs without you just

Standing there

Doing 0 damage

[onyx sentinel]

you can press Q/E to show on your character

[unique mist]

You know you can preview it on your character

[still hearth]

I'm not saying Smite is always bad but unless there's like

6 crushers

Using Smite is bad

[edgy ibex]

Idk ab you but I can mass group assail and get explosions easily with toughness stack, also you can end the smite mid use and then swap to staff or melee

CC and ad clear

[still hearth]

Yeah but

Most people don't

Use anything but Smite

[edgy ibex]

They’re just ass then

[still hearth]

[unique mist]

well unless you wanna be grouped in with all the assail psykers smite is your best cc blitz option after assail

[ornate hamlet]

Smite is good

[glad meadow]

i like smite

it sounds nice

i clutch so many game with the glitch

too bad they are removing it

[still hearth]

I take whatever works best with my other stuff

[edgy ibex]

I prefer the force staves any day. And yeah depends on my build too

[unique mist]

You dont even need the glitch for smite to be good

[edgy ibex]

Staves just are insane

[still hearth]

The glitch on smite is actually a waste of nodes

Because you can stunlock basically the same amount anyway

[edgy ibex]

Yeah the spread is a waste too

[still hearth]

The only things that might get dicy is mutants

[edgy ibex]

As the right click you can quick CC with and no need for spread

[unique mist]

Without the glitch I would still be using EP with smite though

[still hearth]

Why??

It literally does no damage

[unique mist]

because you're not using it for damage

[still hearth]

You're not using it for the +25% spread speed either lmao

That's such a tiny amount

I've never felt while playing with normal smite "damn if only I had +25% spread speed rn"

[unique mist]

Because it also would make it cost no peril for a period of time

its not like they are removing that part of it

just fixing a bug

[edgy ibex]

You also could just use smite for CC and swap to even a surge staff and do more damage lmfao

[still hearth]

That's literally the bug though

[unique mist]

you know that is its perk bro

[still hearth]

Where does it say that?

[unique mist]

Oh

[edgy ibex]

It is a bug cause it makes you default to no damage

[still hearth]

I just think they forgot a 0 on each of Smite's bonuses

[unique mist]

oops

[still hearth]

It's meant to do 300% damage

And have +250% spread speed

At least then it would kill hordes

[glad meadow]

this kinda look krieg like aint it?

[unique mist]

you are using smite to stop a horde in its tracks to get some breathing room to either clear the horde, heal up/stock on ammo, fix a skull or get a revive

[edgy ibex]

What the fuck is that

[glad meadow]

its a mask

[unique mist]

why not just get the krieg helmet

[whole oxide]

it doesn't change anything tho

[glad meadow]

i like my fabulous hair

[whole oxide]

its like pausing the game

[edgy ibex]

They’re gonna trap you in and use you for jumping

[whole oxide]

you still gotta deal with that stuff once its unpaused

[glad meadow]

all my other character got only the krieg helmet

i don't like the clothing it has personally

[unique mist]

Thats why you have 3 other teammates

[glad meadow]

but my psycher dont

i need a mask to fit in

[edgy ibex]

It does work it’s good CC, just not a constant use deal

[ornate hamlet]

To my memory, smite's stun is still active after the player swaps weapons

[unique mist]

for a short time

[edgy ibex]

Yeah it is for a moment if you cancel

Gives time to weapon swap and clear

[unique mist]

but if you swap back to smite it needs time to spread again

[glad meadow]

why do psycher all got a collar anyway?

[edgy ibex]

You can even stagger the charger and swap

Mow em down

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, I never heard anyone complain that zealot's stun grenade was bad because the zealot wasn't doing damage while throwing it, and there was a good reason for it

[unique mist]

to help focus their psionic abilities

[modern bronze]

to make head no explode

[glad meadow]

mine explode just fine

[edgy ibex]

Just hold right and hit everyone for only small buildup

Plus its good toughness generation

Let go quickly, clear, repeat

[ornate hamlet]

has anyone found disrupt destiny to be any good?

[edgy ibex]

Its a psionic hood

[unique mist]

The collar is meant to also reduce the thoughts you detect from people around you

[whole oxide]

because the zealot can do other stuff during it, you can empty an entire flamer mag before stun-grenade wears off

[unique mist]

reducing distractions

[still hearth]

No

[edgy ibex]

Yeah. Collar helps with psychic control shit, lowers interference, can also amplify combat oriented psionic focus

[glad meadow]

no bob armor

[ornate hamlet]

what about the bleed knife? is it any good?

[unique mist]

Also, like, how powerful is our psyker really? Their powers obviously are measurable, but we can detect Zola's thoughs when she is on the Mourningstar and we are all the way down in tertium, that is a very long distance

[edgy ibex]

Yeah but the smite charges quick, has massive range and instant spread with right click and even stays locked out of range, and you can swap and still be able to clear before they stand or move

[glad meadow]

that can be a bluff

or you know they could just recall what they learn why they are on the battleship

[glass karma]

Anyone got tips for keeping warp charges for 300 seconds?

[edgy ibex]

Theres a theory that the person the psyker talks to is a frag of the emp

[unique mist]

i doubt it honestly

[glass karma]

I’m pretty sure it’s all but confirmed

[unique mist]

just a voice in his head because he's a little crazy that he thinks is the emperor

[glass karma]

I mean they are fucking loco

[edgy ibex]

We never know cause guilly talked to the emp and felt multiple waves of different colliding emotions and thoughts; emp is fragmenting

[glass karma]

Yeah I heard about that

[pine grove]

best guns for psyker gun builds?

[unique mist]

i mean theres a reason he needs to drink the blood of like a thousand psykers per day and its not because he's trying out a new juice based diet

[unique mist]

Vraks mk3

[edgy ibex]

A lot of his dialogue hints the “beloved” knows a lot of whats happening and provides commentary to the psyker

[glass karma]

He just really likes abhuman blood

How the living heck does someone compete warp battery tho?

[pine grove]

okay but what about the full auto guns?

[unique mist]

yeah but thats just standard schizophrenia

[ornate hamlet]

Some like abhumans, some like asshumans

[plucky flax]

Guys that's it I'm gonna try smite without empowered blitz.

[edgy ibex]

Also evidently it’s not uncommon for the emp to speak to known established psykers

And we are dealing with a mass plague

[fresh reef]

Play before patch 13

[unique mist]

idk i dont play gunker

[glass karma]

I’ve been rocking brain burst mainly

It’s been a blast (of brains)

[glass karma]

Genuinely tho it feels basically impossible

[unique mist]

I am pretty sure the emp and his fragmented psyche have exponentially more important things to do than literally one outbreak on one planet

[whole oxide]

the one thing its good for is putting you right back to 100% peril for a 2nd shriek

[edgy ibex]

You do know they destroy entire planets for one chaos cult emergence and this is a hive right

[fresh reef]

Is Warp Battery Malice or Heresy?

[glass karma]

To be fair

It’s a very important hive

[unique mist]

Yeah, I don't see why the emperor would care

[glass karma]

It’s malice

[still hearth]

This is unironically one of the reasons I run it

[edgy ibex]

Its on an industrial planet, and the planet is insanely populated

[fresh reef]

Are you on console?

[unique mist]

Like many others that were destroyed before it

[glass karma]

Ye why?

[glass karma]

Tbh I think we’d just have to wait until we know for sure

[edgy ibex]

The imperium has done much more for industrial planets than we’re even doing in darktide too tbr. Mass invasions with thousands of deaths just to secure the industrial worlds because they’re at constant war

I wish they had done more story smh

[glass karma]

I think Tertium is just unlucky so far

[unique mist]

Also you do realise that the only thing they care about in regards to tertium is their machines

[edgy ibex]

Thats what I legit just said

[fresh reef]

Well, it'd be a lot easier with mods since you can set up progression enabled solo lobbies.

My suggestion is to run Hi-Shock Malice or Heresy, and if you can find multiple Psykers to run Communion with you it becomes much easier

[still hearth]

Tertium is actually one of the nicer places

[glass karma]

That’s a good idea actually, High shock missions might do it

[glass karma]

Oh I meant like how there’s barely anyone available to help it out

[unique mist]

Every person on tertium could die for all they care and as long as it keeps making perfectly good tanks it'd be all good

Although

[glass karma]

Seeing as it’s basically just the Torrent

[unique mist]

What is interesting to me is why tertium has such a large library

[edgy ibex]

Evidently too the entire moebian 6th fell to the plague too

So an entire regiment is on Tertium infected too

[unique mist]

I have no idea what a moebian 6th is

[fresh reef]

When are going to the other hive city? The bad one that everyone pretends is lost?

[unique mist]

never

[glass karma]

They actually have some really cool lore

[unique mist]

maybe for one mission

[edgy ibex]

Its a large regiment that fights chaos and xenos daily

They got fucked on Tert by the plague

[unique mist]

the plague is interesting too

it spreads in all the normal ways but also through sound waves

[edgy ibex]

Evidently the threat is so large now the Inquisition thinks if it spreads any more it’ll threaten the entire sector

[unique mist]

Which is why we need to keep shutting down broadcasts

[plucky flax]

Already got a clutch.

It's op.

[onyx sentinel]

Should I destroy this for the rending shockwave?

oops replied to an old ass message

[edgy ibex]

Yeah reading rn evidently atoma has 3 hive cities

And besides the one we’re in, there’s another infected too

[unique mist]

Yeah

[cold oasis]

yeah, the damage and perks are terrible

[unique mist]

Unless you're gonna use it

[plucky flax]

[whole oxide]

you could keep it, keep the blessings, swap the perks, but then you'll need to find some crit-chance from your talents, Scrier's Gaze says hi

[onyx sentinel]

destroyed it alr 💀

[cold oasis]

56% damage is trash

[ornate hamlet]

does anyone know a smite build that kills things? I have only ever ran across one psyker that killed with it within a reasonable timeframe. Mine takes all day for their heads to explode

[cold oasis]

Smite doesn't deal damage

[plucky flax]

Smite with the ascendant blaze.

I dunno the new name.

Creeping flame I think.

My meme smite surge build.

[long ether]

Wildfire if you're talking about the soulblaze thing

[unique mist]

Can smite crit?

[plucky flax]

No I meant this. Sub-talent for the shriek.

[whole oxide]

was running exactly that last night

[long ether]

Smite Crit (sorry for ping forgor to turn off_)

[plucky flax]

People hate the new surge staff but I think it's op.

So good against elites and specials.

[long ether]

Ohhh, yee

[whole oxide]

but it honestly feels like overkill on hordes, while not doing enough elsewhere

[lavish forge]

It would be bad if we didnt have smite to replace it

Im using surge in my assial build to kill crushers and bulwerks

[plucky flax]

I got invited to big pp party.

[whole oxide]

1645, wtf

[plucky flax]

Over 4000 total levels.

This is peak darktide.

[unique mist]

psyker "damage" build

[glass karma]

That’s quite similar to my build rn tbh

[unique mist]

and before arc gets mad at me for choosing warp expenditure, I chose it because it gives you toughness when using your smite which will help bcus you're a sitting duck while using it

[digital narwhal]

Here's my previous Purgatus-

[unique mist]

nice

[digital narwhal]

And here's what I just made.

I should ideally go with the 2nd due to higher Burn n' Cloud Radius, ye?

[glass karma]

I swear this warp battery penance is gonna cost me my brain

[unique mist]

Yes

[orchid nest]

yeah the first one doesn't reach the last soulblaze stack iirc

[unique mist]

purgatus memes https://imgur.com/a/NezYsz8

[orchid nest]

it's like 76 or 77 right. I forget which one

[ornate hamlet]

wait the burn damage % dictates soulblaze stacks applied?

[unique mist]

Yes/no

[digital narwhal]

It needs 76% iirc

[glad meadow]

is psycher the best class atm?

[ornate hamlet]

ask the ogryns

[unique mist]

Purgatus can only apply up to a maximum number of soulblaze stacks on a target

[digital narwhal]

What is that supposed to mean?

[glad meadow]

for some reason when i queue

i only see psycher with their flying needles and dome shield

[unique mist]

Its the easiest rn

[digital narwhal]

Ah, because Assail is kind of incredibly easy to use and incredibly strong for the effort it requires

[unique mist]

maybe not the best

I think a group of 4 psykers will have a much more difficult time than any other more diverse group

[glad meadow]

judging by that tone orgyn is the best class then?

[unique mist]

I at least always want a zealot and an ogryn

[orchid nest]

I still think trauma is overall the strongest and safest setup right now but people don't like using it I guess.

[unique mist]

voidstrike is IMO

trauma suffers at range and cant hit weakspots i think and also doesnt work at all on stairs

[orchid nest]

voidstrike is great for damage and it's nice its cc is better now but it can't carry an entire team on its back like trauma. void isn't even able to be used at all in crowded situations that trauma excels in

[unique mist]

I disagree

[glad meadow]

i find trauma work on stair when i aim it at my feet

[unique mist]

Voidstrike can pierce through multiple enemies

just aim at head level

[left basin]

how can you make obscurus grate again. vote now

[unique mist]

I literally use voidstrike for horde clearing

when I dont use assail

warp flurry and the quell on weakspot hit is so damn good

[orchid nest]

voidstrike is definitely more damage but the safe part is what makes trauma stronger overall imo

[whole oxide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/175zx0m/im_not_trapped_in_here_with_you_heresy/

[glad meadow]

my orgyn felt fine

i remember them feeling like the best clutch but also the worst feeling class on release

[unique mist]

Psyker suffers in single target damage

[sharp stone]

does anybody know if other players can see the mark from my Disrupt Destiny??

[glad meadow]

weird that orgyn managed to get the best flame perk though

[unique mist]

they cannot

[sharp stone]

awwww

[glad meadow]

i always thought that flame is zealot wheel house

[sharp stone]

i guess it would be too good otherwise...

[unique mist]

e.g. a group of 4 psykers will probably kill a boss the slowest out of a group of 4 of each other class

[orchid nest]

yeah but voidstrike is less dps against a monstrosity than a bloodletter chainsword which is exactly why its sitting in my melee slot in that loadout

[unique mist]

eh I use DS

[orchid nest]

DS is awesome too yeah

[unique mist]

onetapping mutants is sex

[viscid matrix]

You do know you can 1tap crushers with void staff right?

[unique mist]

Among other things

[orchid nest]

yeah absolutely. it's great

it also can't handle a chaotic situation as well as trauma though

[unique mist]

i think it can

I have handled many a chaotic situation with my void staff

The good thing about VS is that you can stop a situation from becoming chaotic

[orchid nest]

it can to an extent just not to the same degree

[ornate hamlet]

finally it didn't take 200k to get a decent roll from brunt

[unique mist]

Watch it get bricked

[worldly chasm]

Oh hadrons gonna ruin your day

[ornate hamlet]

hadron has already ruined mine

can't get much worse than my many failed shovel rolls for my vet

[orchid nest]

I do absolutely agree with this part. the part I like about trauma though is the "there is no situation too chaotic" for this staff. I almost exclusively do histg and maelstroms duo though so to be fair I probably need something like the trauma more than the average person

[unique mist]

I do think i need to try trauma again

[ornate hamlet]

well that's not a great start

[worldly chasm]

I wanna try trauma again, but void... its just too fun

[unique mist]

But the long range utility of void is hard to argue with

[unique mist]

:(

[orchid nest]

may as well sit on void while it is as fun as it currently is and try trauma later if you're having fun with it

[ornate hamlet]

Hadron the fun destroyer

[orchid nest]

I know a lot of people just don't like the aiming of trauma too and won't use it because of that which is fair

[ornate hamlet]

Hadron Oppenheimer, destroyer of hope and plasteel

[marsh vector]

hey guys, what are the best blessings/perks for a Voidstrike?

[unique mist]

there are a lot

[marsh vector]

wf

[unique mist]

For pure damage go surge with warp nexus and crit chance/crit damage perks (or go carapace/unyielding)

[marsh vector]

Pretty good staff to keep upgrading?

[unique mist]

For general purpose/horde clear go carapace/unyielding with warp flurry and the quell peril on weakspot perk

[worldly chasm]

Change the sprint to crit chance and the 2nd blessing to warp nexus and it'll do you fine

[orchid nest]

depends on what else you have but yeah that will work good. important part is you got the surge blessing

[unique mist]

And worse comes to worse you can just yoink surge off the staff

[ornate hamlet]

what are the best perks for a purgatus?

[unique mist]

Warp nexus and warp flurry imo

maybe not flurry

Idk what else it can roll

[worldly chasm]

I quite like barrage for the added cc, but its preference

[marsh vector]

or or or

[ornate hamlet]

or are perks not important, I feel like blessings are the main thing with purgatus maybe

[unique mist]

But you want crit chance because it doubles the soulblaze stacks applied

[marsh vector]

Should I upgrade this one instead

[unique mist]

Hmm

I say upgrade that one, put surge on it and swap one of the perks

[orchid nest]

do you have nexus 4 unlocked already?

[unique mist]

I dunno which enemies are infested though

[orchid nest]

I guess that would be my question

[worldly chasm]

Poxwalkers and dog - think just those two

[unique mist]

Yeah so swap infested to either unyielding or carapace, or maybe crit chance would be better, and put surge on it

[marsh vector]

No, sadly

[orchid nest]

then yeah I would also agree upgrading that second one

[marsh vector]

I've been neglecting my Psyker a bit

but the new changes got me... psyked

[orchid nest]

[marsh vector]

So you think I should just eat the Surge off that other one

put it in the library

My current staff has rank 3 warp flurry I could earn too

which I intended to once I got the other one full up

[orchid nest]

well

upgrade the second one first

you may rng into surge on it

[languid tusk]

also with warp charges + crit https://streamable.com/m6budr

[ornate hamlet]

gahhDAMN

[marsh vector]

Good point

[gleaming sparrow]

why is that bad? the rating not high enough to get into the 500s?

[hot inlet]

how tho.

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, my Voidstrike is at like 2980 damage without carapace

[ornate hamlet]

the perks are subpar, if I can get warp nexus on my next blessing I think it'll be fine tho

[gusty furnace]

Voidstrike got gigabuffed

its blatantly overpowered

See: oneshotting crushers with some reliability

[gleaming sparrow]

you can just change them though so its not the end of the world

[ornate hamlet]

thats why I need the second blessing to not be trash lmao

[orchid nest]

true aim really does take it to another level

[ornate hamlet]

hadron boutta give me that uninterruptible secondary blessing I just know it

[hot inlet]

How do you reach that damage tho? Pretty sure I took all (or most) damage perks in the talent tree but I am nowhere close on those damages on carapace

[orchid nest]

do you have the surge blessing on your voidstrike?

[hot inlet]

The guy is not doing it with surge

[orchid nest]

Oh was it? I didn't notice

[hot inlet]

Yeah, that's what leaves me baffled

[orchid nest]

I could see that I guess but like with a t4 carapace and the 6 warp charges they have

[hot inlet]

Yeah, I'm running the same stuff. 6 warp charges and all

[orchid nest]

I assume they have warp rider too but you probably do as well. I guess I can't speak on that specific breakpoint because I haven't tried for it

[hot inlet]

Yeah, and he's sitting at 45%-50% so I have no idea how he makes 2400 on the goddamn mauler

[gritty tapir]

Does Quell Speed not function, or is this just a UI bug?

[glad meadow]

lmao what is that head

bro look like a baby

goo goo gaga

[unique mist]

It does function

[orchid nest]

they are suiting up to blast off to the moon

[vestal fulcrum]

What is the value of the modifier on your weapon?

[gritty tapir]

50%.

[vestal fulcrum]

Then it’s working as intended