#psyker-class

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plucky flax
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It's op for stuff through fire.

potent echo
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i see

astral oracle
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i forgot which crosshair mod specifically

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the name at least

unique mist
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cheers

loud girder
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weapon system is kinda bad from a basic design perspective imo.
I don't understand why the metrics vary so much. it's supposed to be manufactured blueprints (it's the same weapon isn't it?) so you mean to tell me that two knives of the exact same type can make you move 20% faster? why, how?
it's so immersion breaking and makes no sense
how does the same autogun do 20% less damage than the one next to it? they're using the same fucking bullets

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idk man

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it's kinda annoying also the 80% thing

astral oracle
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it's reclaimed items technically

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if you WATCHED THE CUTSCENE

spice veldt
# unique mist cheers

although, I recently just changed my build to include stuff on the left side, so I might actually go through the other talents to the left now

unique mist
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you can imagine how many times those guns were recycled

loud girder
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why is 80% the max, all it means is that now 80% = 100% just a different number

unique mist
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to give them room to sell guns with 100% in a stat for aquilas, duh

plucky flax
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£5 per weapon PepeGreedy

unique mist
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10

loud girder
dawn orchid
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Why am I getting a level 19 psyker in my hi-5 stg game

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Whose man is this

loud girder
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gun with the same ammo type will do 20% less damage? because it's taken feoma. corpse?

unique mist
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because its damaged

vestal fulcrum
loud girder
plucky flax
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Don't play the division for the meme weapons stats xd

astral oracle
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don't play any looter shooter

unique mist
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oh no my video game statistics is immersion breaking

astral oracle
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you will shit yourself

unique mist
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plays destiny 2 one single time

loud girder
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it's like in back4blood you can't replace attachments even though for example it's literally a magazine

unique mist
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"why do rounds that ricochet increase stability? this is immersion breaking"

loud girder
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HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO SWAP A MAG

cunning yew
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Wait till bro find out about health/toughness that will be immersion breaking af

loud girder
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like

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these little things

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drive me crazy

plucky flax
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9mm pistol round does more damage than 5.56 whatthefuck_heresy

astral oracle
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you're telling me if i breathe in the green gas my body will heal

unique mist
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you see the reason you run 20% faster with this knife over that one is-" gets hit by a train

unique mist
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"sorry about that, so the reason this knife makes you run faster is-" piano falls on head

loud girder
astral oracle
unique mist
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"why does that keep happening? anyway you move faster with this knife because-" chaos spawn reaches through sewer grate and drags me into hell

loud girder
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idk weapon system is just off to me I don't like it

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v2 system was trash as well but at least it made more sense

plucky flax
unique mist
plucky flax
unique mist
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one could argue that even seeing weapon stats is immersion breaking so

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dunno why you're so hung up on it

loud girder
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because the Stat system is kinda dumb

unique mist
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astartes comparing their weapons like "yeah this one has 80% damage but only 64% mobility and you can really feel that dip"

loud girder
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the damage is mostly only relevant if you hit breakpoints

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mobility makes no sense as a stat and reload speed too

unique mist
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chaos spawn barrelling down on you stopping in its tracks like "oh damn that is a really well rolled voidstrike staff, is that max rolled? damn bro thats sick, and look at those blessings too. oh you didn't have to re-bless? oh that's nice"

loud girder
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just the choices they made with what the stats are

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is kinda what's off

vestal fulcrum
unique mist
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wait until you play destiny 2, they have...aim assist as a stat

vestal fulcrum
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Like, is it being “realistic”?

unique mist
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you would literally throw up

loud girder
astral oracle
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I love my Smart Pistol Assail

unique mist
vestal fulcrum
loud girder
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its like you go to the shop and buy a glock but one for some reason makes your hands move faster when you reload

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... what

unique mist
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i dont think you have realistic expectations for video games

loud girder
cunning yew
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Adrian, just get over it. It's designed around player retention so you continually play it to get potential "best in slot"

loud girder
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the poi t is they could've chosen more reasonable parameters

unique mist
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like its totally fair to be annoyed that stats cap at 80%

loud girder
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that kinda at least half make sense

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not movement speed

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with thr same type

whole oxide
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what parameters would make sense?

unique mist
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but stats like reload speed is industry fucking standard for shooters

astral oracle
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i love my rusty revolver

unique mist
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if it had no other stat, it would have reload speed

vestal fulcrum
obtuse moth
dim parrot
vestal fulcrum
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But they don’t. That’s vidya gaem for you

obtuse moth
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there are cutscenes in this game???

loud girder
dim parrot
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xD

whole oxide
loud girder
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i mean think about it on a basic level, if you have a table full of knives youre gonna run the same speed with them even with a heavier blade

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its not like a knife can imapct your running speed by 20%

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its kinda dumb to think about when you put it plainly like this

limber heath
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its
a
fucking
videogame

obtuse moth
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if it jabs me (not with the sharp end) every time i run it definitely can

loud girder
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why would you have a knife that jabs you

obtuse moth
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shit design

loud girder
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this is far beyond shit design

obtuse moth
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spurs

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sharp chips

loud girder
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my point is video game or not some parameters make absolutely no sense whatsoever

whole oxide
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name one that does make sense

austere burrow
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Why are you guys even debating him

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The whole premise is nonsense

whole oxide
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because its hilarious

austere burrow
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Just ignore him lol

loud girder
# whole oxide name one that does make sense

it would make sense if you compared them as a whole
for example running speed is fixed to a knife and dfiferent on a force sword which is obviously larger and heavier, or a hammer

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when you compare parameters between the same exact weapon it just becomes kinda ??????

obtuse moth
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stats aren't for immersion, theyre for game balance

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even DnD stats

loud girder
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but its not balance

limber heath
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and player preferences^

loud girder
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youre looking for 80/80/80 anyway

limber heath
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you can't have 80 in every stat

loud girder
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thats just RNG clown fiesta loop to keep you roling

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for that perfect weapon

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its not balance

limber heath
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the whole point is having a bunch of stats so players can pick what they dump and suffer the consequences.

loud girder
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weapon balance truly comes from the actual numbers on the weapon not the stats

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(like damage numbers i mean)

limber heath
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stop playing the game if you're mad you rolled mobility instead of damage

loud girder
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point is the system feels dumb and cheap

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and not even fun to minmax

austere burrow
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Go back to playing dota

limber heath
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stop playing a game with a dumb and cheap system then wtf are you subjecting yourself to

dim parrot
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to bread

loud girder
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do you enjoy every game you play 10000%?

whole oxide
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it's set in a universe where painting something red makes it go faster

loud girder
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all the games you play are 10/10 no problems no issues?

austere burrow
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Whine about it in general

astral oracle
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man borderlands 2 is fun

unique mist
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yes please take it out of psyker class and put it in general

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they can deal with you there

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ANYWAY how cool would it be if assail shards could supercombine like halo's needler

limber heath
unique mist
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like a perk node that replaces the "pierces extra targets" node but instead lets them supercombine in elites

austere burrow
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Hmm

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Sounds strong

loud girder
austere burrow
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Shut up man

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Lmao

limber heath
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aww poor baby stopped getting attention for his shit take

unique mist
austere burrow
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Could be interesting to add stuff like that in the future

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Adding locks to blitz upgrades

unique mist
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then you could do a lightning bolt upgrade to smite where prolonged smite has a small chance to call down lightning bolts on affected targets

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like 5% chance per target per second after 5 seconds increasing by say 2.5% per second or something

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and perhaps lightning strike kills can quell peril

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then for brain burst you could do like "while brain burst is charging on a target there is a 50% (too high?) chance for the creature to become hostile to enemies for 5 seconds before brain bursting" and then make it not work on minibosses

cold geode
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Smite is fucking amazing and I'm in love.

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That is all.

austere burrow
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I played bb/purg/shriek and it still feels pretty good

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I somehow ended up doing 80% of the damage to the boss just using purg

potent echo
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what the hell i missed the argument

limber heath
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good ogryn_pathetic

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some guy mad he rolled mobility instead of damage

potent echo
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fair

limber heath
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his solution was to argue for the removal of stat rolls i think but it wasn't really clear.

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warp fried him already 😔

obtuse moth
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he was just raging BuT It DoEsN'T MaKe SeNsE ItS nOt ImMeRsIvE oR hOw I WaNt iT

light plank
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now he moved to ogryn channel

obtuse moth
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lol

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should have moved to vet chat

loud girder
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are you guys mental or something? or just not able to have a civil discussion when someone says something you dislike?

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i dont understand, i come up and say i dislike the stat system because some stats just make no sense and are not immersive because they just feel plain dumb

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later you start spouting about differences youd like to see happen or suggestions, a second later

zinc phoenix
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The weapon stat system is mostly there to provide a target for grinders

loud girder
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im okay with that, i was saying some stats are just meaningless and feel dumb

zinc phoenix
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If they didn’t have it the game would have emptied out in a few weeks

loud girder
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like movement speed on a knife

summer prairie
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yeah, people were being very obnoxious

zinc phoenix
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🤷‍♀️ it’s not really important

summer prairie
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regardless of what they thought about that viewpoint

loud girder
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i know its not important, its only 20% here and there, the point was it can be used to have more depth or actual impact

sleek marsh
zinc phoenix
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Right now it’s mostly a low level thing I can ignore

sleek marsh
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mostly

zinc phoenix
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And I’d personally like it to stay that way

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Yeah some people think you need a 380 base to do anything in game and perfect traits and perks and whatnot

loud girder
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all i was saying is the system feels very shallow on a surface level

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and its not enjoyable to grind towards

cyan notch
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it is what it is

zinc phoenix
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There seems to be some disagreement on that front as there are loads of grinders

cyan notch
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i think its fine

loud girder
sleek marsh
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yeah it's fine

loud girder
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hopefully they will make an overhaul to it like they did for classes, i (c)hope

zinc phoenix
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System needs to strike a balance between not ticking off us non grinders and still being grindy enough for the majority of grinders

sleek marsh
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non grinder?

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what is that?

loud girder
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i honestly dont mind a grind but this is just "hit 80 on important stats LMAO" kinda

left turtle
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Tf happened in here, jesus

ornate hamlet
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I honestly don't like intangible damage progression

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When I'm chasing a bunch of variations of "increase your damage by game magic" it feels uneventful

zinc phoenix
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I’d rather they’d remove weapon stats entirely as in left 4 dead

sleek marsh
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oh god no

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that would be terrible

zinc phoenix
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It’d be great, we could focus on the gameplay

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But lots of people want to grind 🤷‍♀️

sleek marsh
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but you already can focus on gameplay

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lmfao

zinc phoenix
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You can but if you want to try different weapon perks… back to the grind

sleek marsh
zinc phoenix
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Stats is not the same as weapon customization

left turtle
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You can focus on gameplay, auric may be a bit more difficult but from what Ive seen with a bunch of people, the game boils down far more to player skill than anything

sleek marsh
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🙄

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So you want end gaem gear without working for it

zinc phoenix
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Squad doesn’t have individual weapon variance but does have weapon customization

whole oxide
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honestly I'd be fine if all weapons of the same Mk had the exact same stats, no variation, trying to find a decent stat-roll adds nothing to my enjoyment

sleek marsh
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Understood, have a nice day.

zinc phoenix
zinc phoenix
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You’re so locked into grind mentality you can’t imagine anything else

whole oxide
sudden quartz
left turtle
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I just wish there was an easier way of understanding the difference between the mk1 devil sword, mk2, mk3, Mk4, archys, gorgonian, isiisifi whatever

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Cause when I see there's like, 6 different dueling swords. Tf

sudden quartz
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quite a few around items that have warped the metagame ie vet regen, hammer boss clear

zinc phoenix
ornate hamlet
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Imagine if the player could at least see the moveset before buying from Brunt's

sudden quartz
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and as such if you play those weird aurics you will really struggle without their meta items

zinc phoenix
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Yeah like why doesn’t the meatgrinder have the option to set up weapons and traits on the weapons?

left turtle
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Honestly I haven't done auric and I may not, it sounds like it passes that threshold of being hard just to be hard, I'm here to have fun, not take a journey through the cock and ball torture factory

ornate hamlet
sudden quartz
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we bashed our heads against auric malestrom melee a bunch of times yesterday without a vet and while it's possible imo it's legit more of an increase in difficulty than any other increase in difficulty in the game

sleek marsh
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auric/maelstrom is awesome

sudden quartz
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cause it turns off significant class features

sleek marsh
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max clout

ornate hamlet
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It's incredibly easy to boil someone's argument down to "you just don't want to put effort into it" to make the other person look like an irredeemable clown, but it's also a kind of stupid thing

left turtle
ornate hamlet
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It's like there's only two extremes and nothing else

sleek marsh
whole oxide
ornate hamlet
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If you dislike the way something works, some automatically assume you want it completely nuked out of orbit and you can't possibly do anything besides utterly hate it

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"Oh, I don't like this enemy"
"So you want it removed because you suck at fighting it and you're trying to kill the game and"

left turtle
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Are you talking to me? I'm not asking for Auric to be removed, I'm just probably not gonna dip my feet into it

fierce crest
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5 shards max, -45% regen speed

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oh were not talking about assail

ornate hamlet
left turtle
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Oh, yeah agreed

sleek marsh
fierce crest
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auric isnt that much harder

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also i feel a lot of auric heresy is easier than regular damnation

whole oxide
ornate hamlet
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Such arguments never help anyone and it feels like "I want you to shut up because I don't have a modicum of brainpower to actually say something of substance"

distant quartz
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What did i miss

sleek marsh
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people being choosy beggars

fierce crest
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auric too hard

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but auric is just for fun

sleek marsh
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gear hard, pls giff free

ornate hamlet
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I mean, there's plenty of people in this server who can attest I can play above malice and do it very well

fierce crest
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its fun

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especially auric heresy

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its fun to 1shot stuff all the time again

distant quartz
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What range weapon does assail go with?

fierce crest
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revolver

distant quartz
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Wat

still hearth
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Voidstrike

limber heath
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VS covers carapace which is all thats really left with assail KEKW_ogryn

fierce crest
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voidstike is just op

still hearth
fierce crest
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it doesnt synergize, its just strong

still hearth
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And Revovler does well vs carapace too

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But its just a worse Voidstrike

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Tbf

fierce crest
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nah can kill stuff at range faster

distant quartz
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What did they do to voidstrike?

still hearth
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Pretty much everything rn

ornate hamlet
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Me when the voidstrike has ammo and a reload

still hearth
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Is just a worse voidstrike

left turtle
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Arguable, revolver can be whipped out instantly and fired instantly, good for immediate results

still hearth
limber heath
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i've heard some use vraks for monsters haven't tried though. surge is also decent against cara now so if you like zapping more or miss smite

fierce crest
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imagine having to dodge a sniper, this post made by revolver gang

fierce crest
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and doesnt insta kill snipers

still hearth
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In fact an uncharged Voidstrike shot probably does the same damage as a revolver shot

fierce crest
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not even close

left turtle
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I. Seriously doubt that

summer prairie
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not even remotely true

left turtle
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You're vastly underselling the revolvers damage

still hearth
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Same damage

fierce crest
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average voidstrike player brain

still hearth
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Everything else is revolver cope kfknod

left turtle
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The charge shot, sure.
The uncharged, absolutely not. Lmfao

fierce crest
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yeah i think at like 60% charge they match

still hearth
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Revolver does what 600

ornate hamlet
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Do we have stats to settle this debate? loregryn

fierce crest
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id have to test that tho

limber heath
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while i wouldn't personally use revolver on psyker I'd much rather have a revolver if my exclusive goal was killing a sniper.

still hearth
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Voidstrike does 1400 max charge

ornate hamlet
fierce crest
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uncharged

still hearth
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Ye ye

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Uncharged is like 200 I guess

left turtle
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Your claim was uncharged does MORE than a revolver.

fierce crest
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also counting crit smh

sleek marsh
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lel

ornate hamlet
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I'm gonna uh

fickle onyx
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What perks should I get on mk4 blaze sword?

still hearth
limber heath
ornate hamlet
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Stop asking about bleed knife and start asking about surge revolver

left turtle
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No one's making the claim that the revolver is stronger than a charged void strike.
Considering voidstrike is also overtuned

ornate hamlet
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tbh

whole oxide
ornate hamlet
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Psyker-exclusive gun stuff

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Give me soulblaze infernus

still hearth
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At this point its just comedy

paper loom
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hi what blessings should i use on this?

left turtle
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Oh boy here we go

fierce crest
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you dont get to call your own statment comedy

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THATS cope

ornate hamlet
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Slaughterer and your choice of blessing

limber heath
ornate hamlet
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Bloodthirsty is nice, but so is deflector and unstable power

limber heath
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unless you just mean what should you use on illisi

left turtle
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"I was trolling guys you guys got trolled, guys believe me I was trolling"

still hearth
ornate hamlet
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And with psyker getting some crit shenanigans, maybe shred

still hearth
ornate hamlet
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Oh yeah, the blessings are locked

fierce crest
paper loom
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why cant i reroll them?

still hearth
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You can only reroll two choices

bleak tulip
limber heath
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you can only reroll 2 things on a weapon - 2 blessings, 2 perks, or 1 of each

paper loom
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ahh i see

ornate hamlet
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sword gone

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low finesse tho, so there's a silver lining

fickle onyx
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What perks should I put on blaze sword?

ornate hamlet
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flak and maniac pretty much

sleek marsh
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block and stamina for max defelction

limber heath
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i wouldn't worry too much as the general stats on that could probably be improved anyway, so its not a huge loss. you can always rip the riposte off since its t4 even if it won't be used

still hearth
ornate hamlet
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inshallah, the primary action is the funny ball

summer prairie
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pretty sure uncharge meant min-charge

still hearth
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Ye

limber heath
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yea they didn't mean generic staff left clicks hopefully

ornate hamlet
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I don't know how much they tweaked it, but voidstrike's minimum charge last I tested it was absolute shit

limber heath
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actually, do diff staffs have different primary action damage profiles?

still hearth
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Who uses the left clicks on staves other than purgatus

limber heath
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they all function basically the same right

bleak tulip
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why are you guys arguing over the hypothetical damage of something you aint doing, which is entirely uncharged shots

still hearth
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(Except that insane Surge user who used it all the time)

ornate hamlet
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imagine

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surge

still hearth
ornate hamlet
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on surge staff

paper loom
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so this weapon is better you think?

ornate hamlet
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Aight fuck it, I'm relaunching the game to look at the fucking stats

still hearth
whole oxide
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i mean, I'm in the psykanium right now, with a pretty good voidstrike, and an uncharged alt-fire hits bodyshots mutant for about 90 damage

ornate hamlet
whole oxide
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"revolver"

still hearth
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Just dodge things

summer prairie
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90 to what, that doesn't sound right at all

ornate hamlet
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2s on dodge

fierce crest
whole oxide
left turtle
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Lmfao

fierce crest
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wait i got 77 that time

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i charged it too much

still hearth
ornate hamlet
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fatte nuttes

still hearth
left turtle
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We get it, you said something stupid and are embarrassed to admit it

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Moving on

limber heath
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i feel like we could've said moving on without that comment tbh KEKW_ogryn

fierce crest
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well at least it can 1shot groaners

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if you get a crit

still hearth
fierce crest
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annd a headshot

still hearth
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Denied.

fluid knot
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Uncharged Void is for Blazing memes, which is exactly that at this point, a meme

ornate hamlet
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move on my balls

sleek marsh
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mmem

summer prairie
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it's hard to even do a completely uncharged shot

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you spend some time moving your cursor to aim too

left turtle
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Isn't Lmb just an uncharged shot

fierce crest
fluid knot
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I miss when Void had a skill ceiling D:

fierce crest
left turtle
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By how much?

summer prairie
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depends on the target

bleak tulip
fierce crest
summer prairie
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your void is doing 77 damage to unarmored on a min-charge?

fierce crest
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ye

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and 135 on m1

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torso

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wait maybe

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god its so hard to tell

left turtle
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I'll be honest, void staff is boring. I only use it when using smite so I have a long range option

fierce crest
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fuckin glowy balls

obtuse moth
ornate hamlet
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114 uncharged, 499 revolver, same area of a mutant

summer prairie
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that sounds like the explosion damage

ornate hamlet
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revolver gaming

left turtle
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Yeah I'll probably change to revolver tbh

fluid knot
# bleak tulip did it? You still basically do the same shit now but you also shoot crushers in ...

Yeah, you had to learn quell cancelling, it wasnt applicable in every situation so you had to use other bits of your toolkit more an such. Now i keep seeing people just using Void, barely using the blitz unless its Assail, basiclaly never employing melee, because why swap when you can do everything with one staff, it went from taking a bit of mechanical knowledge to deadbrain stupid meta shit in one patch

fierce crest
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also the semi auto headhunter is fun

ornate hamlet
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Dueling sword with revolver is the tits now

left turtle
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I rock purgatus on my BB build

ornate hamlet
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Slap shred and uncanny on the sword, point blank and speedload on the revolver and you're a real pirate gamer

fierce crest
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tho DS are better axes right now

ornate hamlet
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Melee psyker gaming

bleak tulip
obtuse moth
ornate hamlet
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Supported by the Emperor's will

left turtle
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Yeah I'm using dueling sword, very reminiscent of Viktors rapier in vermintide.
So coming from a witch hunter main, feels like home

ornate hamlet
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Because shred depends solely on me chadogryn

summer prairie
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ok, yeah it can really be that low if you try, but in practice you are never going to do min-charges in-game even when you are somewhat trying to

fierce crest
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did not like it on saltz

left turtle
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That's fair, I just think the added agility is really helpful on the sentient wet napkin that is a psyker

summer prairie
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even barely any charge already multiplies the damage

whole oxide
left turtle
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Honestly the biggest selling point on the revolver for me was it's draw-to-ads speed

fierce crest
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yeah

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hence my not having to dodge snipers comment

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cuz you can out aim them

left turtle
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I use it on my zealot and I can be mulching a crowd, see a sniper, pop their head real fast, and go back to mulching. Feels good

fierce crest
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kinda just not possible with most things

bleak tulip
# fluid knot Most probably

idk I found it kinda nice to pull like 500k damage per match barely trying, its a nice change from basically having to omega tryhard with trauma sliding and shit just to keep up, enjoy it while you can

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fuck assail tho that shit is a little silly

left turtle
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Ye

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Revolver life

Why the fuck am I using a god damn staff

limber heath
#

wtf do your revolvers look like that they oneshot maulers. mine don't do that (at least on damnation 😭)

bleak tulip
#

would be cool if assail relied more on you actually aiming it, dunno how you'd swing that but that would be nice

fluid knot
fierce crest
#

not a 1tap tho

whole oxide
#

they might just need to remove Surge blessing for void, 'cos outside of that interaction, its DPS isn't even that great

bleak tulip
still hearth
#

I want some of it definitely

left turtle
fierce crest
#

but they peirce commons and do good damage to carapace/flak

whole oxide
fluid knot
summer prairie
#

it's amazing without surge and flurry isn't far behind it anyway

limber heath
#

honestly I need surgical on mine so i can more consistently 2 or 3 shot maulers

still hearth
#

The charge time is 1.6s at 80% iirc. That's not very long for a free plasma shot with cleave

left turtle
bleak tulip
bleak tulip
#

its not my fault they overtuned void Kekw

left turtle
#

You know what

#

Fair

bleak tulip
#

Ive been voiding since day 1

fluid knot
ornate hamlet
#

Kinda like a sustained brain burst

#

Not sure what the alt-fire would be tho

left turtle
#

Ounno, the little boop it does isn't satisfying to me. Unleashing a torrent of blue/white fire on the other hand. Veeery satisfying

bleak tulip
#

ideally they lose tracking when you switch off because right now you can shit out 10 shards and just keep aiming them while meleeing

left turtle
#

Plus,
Meta is boring

ornate hamlet
#

vrosky, voidstrike has one of the crunchiest headshot sounds in the game

bleak tulip
#

making the shards last longer but do a bit less damage would be pretty good

spice veldt
summer prairie
#

being able to throw them and switch to something else is a fun mechanic, that should stay

bleak tulip
#

and my a bit I mean a lot bit, probably lmao

spice veldt
#

it should be a quickswap weapon

fluid knot
# left turtle Plus, Meta is boring

Meta in this game tends to be pretty boring yeah, because it often tends to be something thats x5 better than everything else and has been historically in almost every example

whole oxide
# still hearth What are you smoking

in the psykanium right now, without surge interaction, putting fully charged bodyshots into a mutant until it dies results in a dps of....... 377

ornate hamlet
whole oxide
#

there are actual numbers here, its not an opinion

bleak tulip
spice veldt
#

at least for starters, its ammo regen and max ammo need to be tuned down so that it can't be used as a primary weapon

bleak tulip
#

^

still hearth
fierce crest
spice veldt
#

and being reliably to hit 3 targets with Ethereal Shards is questionable

spice veldt
fluid knot
#

Less aimbot would be a good start for assail too

whole oxide
spice veldt
#

since the current RMB is a slow mode that is evidently supposed to cover Assail's lack of range (fairly rare to be in situations where its range is lacking)

fierce crest
left turtle
ornate hamlet
#

your mom

fickle onyx
#

What curios should I run?

fierce crest
#

1 wound 1 toughness 1 health

#

perfectly balanced

fickle onyx
#

And perks?

fierce crest
#

dockets

limber heath
#

😭

spice veldt
#

aim-assisted LMB and a straight deterministic throw for the RMB

dim parrot
whole oxide
#

doing fully charged headshots onto Crusher, with Void without Surge procs, results in 850 dps, which isn't that crazy

ornate hamlet
still hearth
summer prairie
#

If I didn't run dockets I would probably go for 5% health, 5% toughness, 4% combat ability regen

fickle onyx
#

Ah

spice veldt
#

yeah I always run +tough, +health, with my 3rd perk being whatever I'm feeling like on the day

fierce crest
#

the perks are kinda all good

#

revive speed is nice

still hearth
#

Gunner resistance for life

limber heath
#

if you don't run ball you could prob make an argument for gunner resist somewhere

fickle onyx
#

Ball?

whole oxide
#

Ball.

limber heath
#

uhh bubble

left turtle
#

Ball.

still hearth
#

Though assail users don't need it tbf

fierce crest
#

blue ball

neat pecan
#

Idea to balance shards

fickle onyx
#

Ah the ball

fierce crest
#

blue glowy ball

still hearth
#

Big ball

left turtle
#

The SPHERE

fierce crest
fickle onyx
halcyon creek
#

Teammates are stored in the balls

left turtle
neat pecan
# fierce crest less ammo and regen

I was just gonna say that you start with none and you have to actually kill shit to get them, but you can’t get more by getting kills with the shards themselves

whole oxide
#

oh god, dome being "blue balls" from now on, what have you done

neat pecan
#

Basically it forces you to use other stuff

fickle onyx
fierce crest
bleak tulip
still hearth
empty onyx
#

So, I noticed that I have less Stamina in the mission vs. the Psykhanium. Do Heresy and Damnation also reduce your available Stamina and I just never noticed?

left turtle
# left turtle

Me when I first experienced the bubble bug and multicasted like 4 bubbles

spice veldt
neat pecan
empty onyx
fierce crest
spice veldt
#

presumably or something of that sort

#

75 rating stamina curios display that they give +3 stamina and do this correctly in the psykhanium

#

but they give +2 stamina in missions for some reason

empty onyx
#

:1

fierce crest
#

FAT SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK

spice veldt
#

you've been scammed

#

rumbled

#

and tumbled

bleak tulip
#

scrungled

fierce crest
left turtle
#

Who needs stamina when you have orb

bleak tulip
#

once again, dont only test in psy

empty onyx
#

Melk! I want my money back!

left turtle
#

Never leave it's safety

bleak tulip
#

its never been 100% true to life

#

hey arco whats the highest + toughness curio you have

#

so I can feel bad

#

about not farming that shit when you could still get em by the dozen

fierce crest
#

15 is max

#

i have a 13

bleak tulip
#

I could be wrong but I am almost 95% sure I have a 16

limber heath
#

am i missing a joke here about toughness curios

#

they go to 17 😭

bleak tulip
#

so maybe I grandfathered in some shit from ages past or something

fierce crest
#

hmm

fluid knot
bleak tulip
#

also I have a +21 health and dont think Ive seen a higher one

#

so its not like the numbers are "nice"

limber heath
#

21 is the max yees

bleak tulip
neat pecan
bleak tulip
#

missing like maybe 3% total

#

wat

fierce crest
#

im dum

#

i guess i need to reroll mine

bleak tulip
#

I fuckin wish toughness went to 21

fluid knot
fierce crest
#

didnt realize how far off i was

limber heath
#

5 secondary

fluid knot
#

So total of 25%

limber heath
#

but yes

plucky flax
limber heath
#

toughnes and helth both have 5% on the perk

fluid knot
plucky flax
#

Nearly 300 hp giga psyker gigaChad

neat pecan
fluid knot
#

Ngl im starting to see a lot more case for toughness over HP on Psyker this patch

limber heath
#

i like the idea that you would find assail shards in random ammo boxes around the map

summer prairie
#

I run 3x toughness

neat pecan
#

That’s been my build so far, one that’s encouraged by the perk that regens toughness for peril quelled

bleak tulip
fluid knot
fierce crest
fluid knot
bleak tulip
fierce crest
bleak tulip
#

also getting caught out by gunners because youre meming

neat pecan
fluid knot
bleak tulip
#

dont step in the fire

#

ez

fluid knot
#

Other than Snipers not playing their audio cues, which has been a problem of late

#

But thats solved by resist perks

still hearth
#

Silent trappers are a constant for me

fluid knot
#

Yeah had a few of those too, not as many though

neat pecan
#

Snipers are a massive pain

fierce crest
fluid knot
neat pecan
#

As of late their lasers have been bugging out, making it hard to track them

bleak tulip
#

what the heck is goin on with y'alls games, I havent had any of that in like 20 hours since the patch Kekw

neat pecan
#

It’s made worse by the fact that if it does show up, it’s for a split second before the shot, meaning your probably gonna get shat on

fluid knot
#

Bombers do have a throwing arm that could put them in major cricket or baseball leagues tho KEKW_ogryn

empty onyx
#

My long search for the perfect Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword continues. I should've made a list of spent money, plasteel & Diamantine.

empty onyx
fluid knot
#

Lol, true

limber heath
#

i think the worst i've had is a sniper not doing its sound cue

bleak tulip
#

guess I'm lucky that all the times I got hit by sniper was my own dumb ass getting the dodge timing wrong

potent echo
#

damn my back KEKW_ogryn

fierce crest
#

hey a devils claw

potent echo
#

Dclaw is fckin cracked

#

top melee and ranged damage lmao

left turtle
static pine
#

hm, [whatever] prescience
It feels almost anti-synergetic with everything else
you get a damage boost that most of your class stuff can't leverage because your peril is out of control
and if you use a gun, there's never going to be time to drag it out because you can't reduce peril with a gun, and staffs are the best way to do that. Killing only goes so far. 🤔

neat pecan
#

Mod

potent echo
#

download scoreboard and scoreboarddamage

fierce crest
left turtle
#

😠

fierce crest
#

mods are good

fluid knot
neat pecan
#

I still think it’s stupid for darktide to not have a score board

plucky flax
#

That's op mane but you should have just used assail way more.

static pine
fierce crest
potent echo
#

i alr used it alot, maybe more whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
#

Me when I play assail and get below 50 melee kills. feelsgoodman

potent echo
#

i took savage sweep rampage

static pine
#

doesn't help that if you hit 100% peril because of anything else whilst it's going on, you still boom. Which sucks.

potent echo
#

none of them took out melee

#

vet idea of horde clear is spam chainsword light into horde

bleak tulip
plucky flax
#

Ogryn using mk3 club and mk5 stubber is a brave man.

fierce crest
potent echo
#

scoreboard mod is fine, like 0.1% of people playing care about their score anyway

bleak tulip
#

sweaty players who care (us) just get the mod and still get their epeen extension and everyone else gets to just have fun and not worry

fluid knot
fierce crest
plucky flax
#

I only care plasteels picked stat. peepoFatRun

fluid knot
#

Zealots Relic, Smite, Vet's auto-revive + stealth for res', Oggies Taunt etc

fierce crest
neat pecan
#

I feel like a scoreboard should have: kills, specialist kills, boss damage, and accuracy, and that should be good. Maybe log the number of healing and ammo boxes dropped and Medicare charges used

plucky flax
#

That's the imposter stat tracker.

#

I don't do that.

bleak tulip
static pine
bleak tulip
#

unless they changed it its always been 97% is safe

potent echo
#

yea

#

only if you cast something at 100%, boom

fierce crest
#

everything else pops you at 100%

fierce crest
#

just whenever you have shriek up, be stupid with casting

static pine
#

i've been playing since beta lol

fierce crest
#

and youll realize

#

wut

#

you dont pop unless youre at 100%

#

so uh

#

yeah

static pine
#

It's specifically the new abilities plus not having played since July that's been throwing it off.
doubly so the fact that the rate of increase with prescience keeps growing.

potent echo
#

best part of Dclaw is its insane maniac damage

#

2 shot mutant on heavies damn

fluid knot
#

Almost getting the one shot on my Zealot

#

but not quite

left turtle
loud girder
fierce crest
normal sand
#

Please give me a guide to a psyker

bleak tulip
fierce crest
#

shoot bad guy in head

#

hit other bad guy with axe

normal sand
#

Please give me a build for a psyker

fierce crest
#

gun

#

axe

loud girder
#

they exist

left turtle
fierce crest
#

short catpoint

loud girder
#

@normal sandits free to respec, you can just try out and see what feels better or worse

left turtle
#

Far better to feel out everything instead of being told what to do

fierce crest
#

no

loud girder
#

you can do it after every match even

fierce crest
#

im telling you

#

gun

static pine
fierce crest
#

axe

sleek marsh
#

revolveer and bleed knife

#

based build

near wyvern
#

@spice veldt @summer prairie
Rending and Uncanny Strike are actually pretty powerful now. In the worst case you get a 1.25x multiplier on your damage (caps at 1.25x for some reson), in the best case you get 8-9x depending on what the armour modifier originally was.

It's not realistic, but if you really squeeze it and stack rending and other buffs in the grinder I can make an Assail dart hit a Reaper head for 1024 damage, when without any buffs it hits for 238.

fierce crest
#

maybe we'd have learned

near wyvern
#

Rending Shockwave into Assail might make for some ridiculous elite clear

left turtle
static pine
#

tbf assail is also way higher peril gain than a staff.
i wish staff headshots could actually reliably kill chaff. We're already dealing with projectile travel times and no sights ffs

fluid knot
fierce crest
#

true

#

TRUE

#

(i barely use surge)

fluid knot
#

Its much better this patch, well worth dusting off

static pine
#

why use surge now when you can just sith lightning things instead

lethal folio
#

staff lclicks were buffed a lot.

left turtle
#

I prefer to employ weaponized aneurysms for snipers

fluid knot
static pine
#

and yet, i still see so many enemies walking around after plinking them in the head.

static pine
fluid knot
fierce crest
light plank
#

surge is for killing things now

static pine
#

Ah, I'll take a look at it, then, didn't realise the niche had changed.

fierce crest
#

less chain

#

more dammage

fluid knot
#

When Void gets nerfed Surge is gonna be very competative

left turtle
#

Purgatus users rise up

fluid knot
#

eww KEKW_ogryn

static pine
#

seriously though, let staff M1's actually kill scabs or something on a headshot. or... something to make it less "you have a basic lasgun, and it's worse to hit with" <_>

left turtle
fierce crest
#

much better single target with still a bit of cc

left turtle
#

Purgatus supremacy

normal sand
near wyvern
#

who needs their upper body anyways

fierce crest
#

a classic

fluid knot
#

No torso = harder for heretics to hit you

halcyon creek
#

The real shirtless bug

fierce crest
#

we've been lied to, sustained fire

kind jay
#

i know we got some cool shit but i think ogryns big boom is my favorite thing

#

exterminatus at home

#

except better

left turtle
normal sand
#

who uses which build?

left turtle
#

Just do yourself a favor and don't touch assail

#

It's ridiculously overpowered and it's gonna piss you off when it gets inevitably nerfed, probably into the dirt. And everything else will feel weak in comparison

elfin grail
#

I feel like it would be so easy to balance

unique mist
elfin grail
#

its already more fun to use staff then swap for hordes

left turtle
#

It's just stuff this broken usually warrants a knee-jerk reaction from devs and it gets nerfed too hard

elfin grail
#

so just make it a mechanic where you earn assail shards instead of just lazily sitting in it full time

#

I bet good players use it that way anyway since you dont get the CC you get sitting on your staff

#

case in point

left turtle
#

It's just fuckin boring

#

Both to use, and to have one on your team

elfin grail
#

agreed.

#

its fun to swap for a few spams to clear a pack though

#

I play vet mostly. assail is like, you arent even playing.

brisk dagger
#

love trying to kill shit just for a blue homing shard to fly across my screen and kill everything before I even get close

#

very fun

elfin grail
#

they are very weak against armored heads so, i guess in a good group you know they will zip and keep shit off you while you focus bigger targets

kind jay
#

i love assail because it's literally the same thing vet had to deal with this entire time

#

now vet is the meh class and psykers are doing all the killing

spice veldt
#

psyker's autopistol

#

except the autopistol has aim assist

kind jay
#

"shoot my blue glow now bitch"

silent forge
#

is brautogun a good pick for gunker?

left turtle
#

I genuinely cannot wait for the assail nerf

still hearth
#

Psykers can't get brauto right?

silent forge
#

oh can they not?

still hearth
#

I don't think so

#

Only infantry

dawn orchid
#

Just crafted this, I'm putting warp nexus instead of transfer peril. Should I replace weakspot with 5% crit or something else?

silent forge
#

either way

#

any good recommendations for gunker?

dawn orchid
#

Use assail

left turtle
#

Don't use assail

dawn orchid
#

It has ammo

#

Is gun

#

Use assail

left turtle
#

Fuck assail

kind jay
#

revolver, shredder, vraks

#

all good

left turtle
#

Me and my homies all hate assail

dawn orchid
#

Use void strike instead, and don't take ammo from teammates

#

It's like a machine gun

golden frigate
silent forge
languid osprey
#

u guys use anything else than the sword? cringe

golden frigate
#

imagine not using only blaze void staregryn

potent echo
left turtle
#

I weaponize aneurysms with purgatus staff/dueling sword

dawn orchid
languid osprey
#

kids this days using cringe glass shards and zapping for 2dmg

left turtle
#

I started like smite alot but it seems to lag out people's computers, so. Back to aneurysms

languid osprey
potent echo
#

Use brainrupture like a true intellectual

left turtle
#

Yeah.
Aneurysm

silent forge
#

soulblaze bb build on top

languid osprey
dawn orchid
#

Brain burst is the lamest skill

potent echo
#

Of course

#

Your brain burst one poxwalker, the rest run away

golden frigate
silent forge
#

day 884 of waiting for assail nerf

left turtle
#

Soldier you better not fucking use assail and have the audacity to call anything else lame

potent echo
#

Can't say brainburst is lamest when smite exists

languid osprey
golden frigate
#

not after last update KEKW_ogryn

languid osprey
#

how is trauma after the las update?

potent echo
#

Trauma always good

#

Now better

left turtle
#

People who call smite lame only obsess over the highest damage numbers and can't fathom support gameplay

silent forge
#

still top tier

spice veldt
#

mechanically the same with a small damage bump to compensate for the increased hp of enemies

potent echo
#

People sweating over how void is so strong but kike

spice veldt
#

feels the same as usual

potent echo
#

I see them all go down to poxwalkers so

#

🤷‍♂️

spice veldt
#

albeit a bit snappier with the buffs to the staffs' swap times, lmb, and whatnot

silent forge
#

trauma has insane clutch potential

dawn orchid
#

At least you can larp as the lame emperor from star wars with smite and its tickling damage

#

Brain burst is just

#

Lame

languid osprey
#

thats great

dawn orchid
#

Everything about it is boring

languid osprey
dawn orchid
#

I use assail bro

potent echo
#

I need that crying wojack with a mask

dawn orchid
#

With my void strike

#

And illisi sword

#

I am become metagame

left turtle
#

Yeah it's really exhilarating to stand there and let flying daggers literally do everything for you with minimal effort

potent echo
#

Illisi? Ew

#

What a trash weapon

languid osprey
dawn orchid
#

It looks cool and feels good at least

potent echo
#

Try using a Dclaw KEKW_ogryn

kind jay
#

you guys put in work? i just ping where enemies are and let the team do everything while i eat cheetos

potent echo
#

It blasts illisi out of the damn water

left turtle
#

It really says something when you don't even have to build around assail

#

It just plays the game for you without any effort

languid osprey
kind jay
languid osprey
#

i swear veteran have a skill perk that if u ping someone it deals 5 dmg or something

left turtle
#

I mean I appreciate pings

potent echo
#

What KEKW_ogryn

left turtle
#

Easy for me to grab with brain burst from a mile away

#

Get that nice meaty crownch on the sniper whos hiding

potent echo
#

Snipers having a deathwish since this patch though

#

Sometimes they just run at you

languid osprey
#

thats a feature

left turtle
#

Feels so much better than Auto-Play fairy darts

potent echo
#

Assail, I don't even need to shit talk it

#

It's in the name KEKW_ogryn

left turtle
#

It's also funny that a ton of people in this chat have said they stopped using assail cause it got boring

languid osprey
#

the best skill is the one u dont have to use imagine switching weapons and using ur kit like... come on

left turtle
#

Imagine that, a skilless ability that does it all for you gets boring

potent echo
#

I only use it on my meme surge build

languid osprey
potent echo
#

Surge fun

#

Shock a sniper 25m away

#

It die

left turtle
#

I use brainburst like, 90% of the time lol. I'm always looking for excuses to get that crownch

#

Chaos spawn comes out. Bubble.
Woe, 30 brain aneurysm be upon ye

potent echo
#

Fight it with duelling sword like a honorable gentleman

#

Psyker needs a glove throw button

left turtle
#

Im not honorable tho

#

I'm a psyker

potent echo
#

Despicable

left turtle
#

Homie one of the voice packs for male psyker has a pretend warp waifu

idle bay
#

Any Precogs here to tell when next hotfix is incoming - dooming some fun stuff to be nerfed and other stuff to be somewhat fixed ?

silent forge
#

i feel so warm and my toes curl when a psyker calls me beloved

left turtle
#

Maybe more than one iunno, I play a female psyker

silent forge
#

its like siennas darling but not as good

languid osprey
#

imaginary is the second best option

idle bay
left turtle
silent forge
#

that is my psykers voice

idle bay
#

Enforces psyker is haitian accent right?

languid osprey
left turtle
#

Oh yeah that's probably what that is

#

It's also one of the only voice packs on psyker that doesn't constantly say cringe things in a goofy voice

silent forge
#

i like the part when french psyker says something about an enforcer

left turtle
#

There's a male one that I think tried to do like a maniacal giggle. But it just fuckin sounds like goofy

languid osprey
#

embrace it

idle bay
#

No flavor to personality, only special accent

#

He almost feel like a normal person

left turtle
idle bay
left turtle
#

How is that dull

#

I find a psyker capable of maintaining sanity and not doing a goofy impersonation everytime you vent, alot more enjoyable

idle bay
#

Protocol, dicipline..... how much more dull can anyone be, He don't talk about anything interesting at all, no jokes at all.

silent forge
#

is that where the whole mall cop thing comes from?

left turtle
#

..what?

silent forge
#

yeah ive been hearing people call the male enforcer the mall cop

idle bay
left turtle
#

He alone?

#

Have you listened to Bully Ogryn

idle bay
#

Ogryns is a treat to listen 🙂

left turtle
#

Not the bully one, it's boring af

#

Bodyguard and whatever the one I used forgot the name, are great

#

And there's a vet one, I believe it's cutthroat, that is no jokes or anything just a very, get the job done and go home, type

#

The Irish Catholic voice for zealot is also boring, I regret choosing it, he hardly interacts with the others

silent forge
left turtle
#

Yeah it's extremely boring

hoary badge
#

You stop that bully slander

idle bay
left turtle
#

@idle bay it's not that the enforcer voice is lame, it's that you prefer the silly, goofy voices, which is fine. But it all comes down to preference

silent forge
#

i will say tho, the loose cannon voice on vet might be my favorite

hoary badge
#

Bully's combat lines don't stand out as much but he has some choice conversations

left turtle
left turtle
idle bay
left turtle
#

Well one voice pack likes them quite a bit more than the others

#

This legendary fellow

idle bay
#

There are 2 kinds of Ogryn outlooks in the game: either as goofy as possible or as badass as possible. No middle variants 🙂

left turtle
#

But there names always need to be something very short and with minimal vowels

#

Mines Pudd.

idle bay
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Draktide ogryns and nobel prize nominees by other normal ogryns standarts. They can speak with sentences

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Still can only count to 3 though

devout halo
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is casting smite forever a bug?

left turtle
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Empowered psionics make it unlimited cast, tho it doesn't say it does

devout halo
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yeah fair enough lol

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won't use it then

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seems busted

left turtle
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Meh

idle bay
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FS don't like bugs even if result is cool.

left turtle
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It does like, 5 damage an hour

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Great CC tho

idle bay
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One of the first thing to be nerfed. 2nd is probably turning Assail into wet noodle

halcyon creek
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Use it until they take it away. This is a game not a job, play what’s fun

devout halo
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it ccs things for ever lol

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doesn't really matter how much damage it does

left turtle
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It does if your team is dumb as shit and doesn't capitalize

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Which, happens far more often than it should

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(holding down an entire squad if maulers and ogryns)
(Team has wandered off in search of new horizons)

hoary badge
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I usually leave psykers who abuse infinismite because it melts my framerates more than it does the horde

idle bay
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You might not kill much with that CC, but you will for sure create a LOT of breathing room for the team to kill everything you cc. It's like being in a team with 2 Ogryns - they barely score a lot of kills (just moderate amount) - but they so good at herding and controlling the flow of enemies - that other teamates have easy time of butchering everything. Very notcable on Damnation

dull skiff
idle bay
dull skiff
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surprisingly not. Everyones still learning about the build

idle bay
dull skiff
devout halo
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do auras stack with other people of the same class?

potent echo
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no

devout halo
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what if we're using different auras?

potent echo
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i mean yes

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but not the same aura

devout halo
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alrighty, cheers

woven pumice
devout halo
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it's not even that fun to use

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you just stand there and lightning goes everywhere

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it's like

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ok

potent echo
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residentsleeper

woven pumice
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I fail to see where the fun isn't

devout halo
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lol

elfin grail
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nothing is fun

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think thats a symptom

dawn orchid
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Should I just be machine gunning it with the surge voidstrike blessing?

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Or keep charging with the extras as an added bonus

idle bay
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Imagine for a moment. A hotfix day.
FS: we looked at fun Ogryns were having with new toys and decided - kark it! Crazy powerful fun stuff for everyone!

potent echo
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i just tried smite for the first time

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what the hell is this KEKW_ogryn

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how is this useful to anyone

idle bay
woven pumice
potent echo
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so you help them grab you

woven pumice
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Stunlocking whole mutant wave tposegryn

potent echo
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interesting trade

woven pumice
idle bay
# potent echo how is this useful to anyone

On lower difficulty it's not that useful. On high difficulty with high enemy dencity - it's priceless if used right - it alliveates the preasure on the team and creates a pause in enemy adavance and breathing room for your team to murder prority targets and CC'ed enemies

woven pumice
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And dodgeslide left/right while casting to avoid being grabbed

potent echo
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so this is what hell feels like