#psyker-class
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i see
cheers
weapon system is kinda bad from a basic design perspective imo.
I don't understand why the metrics vary so much. it's supposed to be manufactured blueprints (it's the same weapon isn't it?) so you mean to tell me that two knives of the exact same type can make you move 20% faster? why, how?
it's so immersion breaking and makes no sense
how does the same autogun do 20% less damage than the one next to it? they're using the same fucking bullets
idk man
it's kinda annoying also the 80% thing
although, I recently just changed my build to include stuff on the left side, so I might actually go through the other talents to the left now
they tell you in the beginning of the game you are getting guns from dead people so
you can imagine how many times those guns were recycled
why is 80% the max, all it means is that now 80% = 100% just a different number
to give them room to sell guns with 100% in a stat for aquilas, duh
£5 per weapon 
10
so you will run 20% faster with another knife even though it weighs the same and looks the same and functions the same?
its a video game
gun with the same ammo type will do 20% less damage? because it's taken feoma. corpse?
because its damaged
There potentially is space to update the crafting system further, that’s why. FS has not completed it probably, so it made no sense to limit the wiggle room they would have had, had they decided to finish it one day
doesn't matter it's still immersion breaking
Don't play the division for the meme weapons stats xd
don't play any looter shooter
oh no my video game statistics is immersion breaking
you will shit yourself
it's like in back4blood you can't replace attachments even though for example it's literally a magazine
"why do rounds that ricochet increase stability? this is immersion breaking"
HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO SWAP A MAG
Wait till bro find out about health/toughness that will be immersion breaking af
9mm pistol round does more damage than 5.56 
you're telling me if i breathe in the green gas my body will heal
you see the reason you run 20% faster with this knife over that one is-" gets hit by a train
combustion my beloved
"sorry about that, so the reason this knife makes you run faster is-" piano falls on head
that goes into the fantasy realm but some little things are annoying because they are little and could've just made more sense
me when medipack dropped:
"why does that keep happening? anyway you move faster with this knife because-" chaos spawn reaches through sewer grate and drags me into hell
idk weapon system is just off to me I don't like it
v2 system was trash as well but at least it made more sense
What's going on there bro are you okay?
sorry i don't think fatshark wants me to tell you that this knife makes you move faster because- user was banned from the server

one could argue that even seeing weapon stats is immersion breaking so
dunno why you're so hung up on it
because the Stat system is kinda dumb
astartes comparing their weapons like "yeah this one has 80% damage but only 64% mobility and you can really feel that dip"
the damage is mostly only relevant if you hit breakpoints
mobility makes no sense as a stat and reload speed too
chaos spawn barrelling down on you stopping in its tracks like "oh damn that is a really well rolled voidstrike staff, is that max rolled? damn bro thats sick, and look at those blessings too. oh you didn't have to re-bless? oh that's nice"
What is “makes sense” in your mind? I don’t get it.
wait until you play destiny 2, they have...aim assist as a stat
Like, is it being “realistic”?
you would literally throw up
that two of the same revolvers reload at 20% different speeds
I love my Smart Pistol Assail
well if a revolver gets shot and gets damaged you'd think it would reload slower than another one that didnt have that but maybe is damaged in some other way
Well, what if one of them has a mechanical failure that is beyond your comprehension to fix, but it makes the cylinder that much harder to rotate? There is your potential explanation.
its like you go to the shop and buy a glock but one for some reason makes your hands move faster when you reload
... what
i dont think you have realistic expectations for video games
yes a gun that was shot in the most important mechanism is functional
Adrian, just get over it. It's designed around player retention so you continually play it to get potential "best in slot"
the poi t is they could've chosen more reasonable parameters
like its totally fair to be annoyed that stats cap at 80%
what parameters would make sense?
but stats like reload speed is industry fucking standard for shooters
i love my rusty revolver
if it had no other stat, it would have reload speed
A realistic explanation is that the warband has a tech priest on board that probably could dedicate some servitors to repair the broken armaments.
honestly its annoying its not 100% but i'd prefer it upfront now than downgraded later for stat creep. or something dumb where later theres 200% stat rolls
there r people that watch the cutscenes?😱
But they don’t. That’s vidya gaem for you
there are cutscenes in this game???
im not exactly sure but defiitely not run speed or reload speed
xD
then your issue isn't with the particular stats they selected, but with the very concept of stats itself
i mean think about it on a basic level, if you have a table full of knives youre gonna run the same speed with them even with a heavier blade
its not like a knife can imapct your running speed by 20%
its kinda dumb to think about when you put it plainly like this
its
a
fucking
videogame
if it jabs me (not with the sharp end) every time i run it definitely can
why would you have a knife that jabs you
shit design
this is far beyond shit design
my point is video game or not some parameters make absolutely no sense whatsoever
name one that does make sense
because its hilarious
Just ignore him lol
it would make sense if you compared them as a whole
for example running speed is fixed to a knife and dfiferent on a force sword which is obviously larger and heavier, or a hammer
when you compare parameters between the same exact weapon it just becomes kinda ??????
but its not balance
and player preferences^
youre looking for 80/80/80 anyway
you can't have 80 in every stat
thats just RNG clown fiesta loop to keep you roling
for that perfect weapon
its not balance
the whole point is having a bunch of stats so players can pick what they dump and suffer the consequences.
weapon balance truly comes from the actual numbers on the weapon not the stats
(like damage numbers i mean)
stop playing the game if you're mad you rolled mobility instead of damage
thats not the point
point is the system feels dumb and cheap
and not even fun to minmax
Go back to playing dota
stop playing a game with a dumb and cheap system then wtf are you subjecting yourself to
to bread
because the core gameplay is still fun to play? doesnt mean you cant have grits about systems?
do you enjoy every game you play 10000%?
it's set in a universe where painting something red makes it go faster
all the games you play are 10/10 no problems no issues?
Whine about it in general
man borderlands 2 is fun
yes please take it out of psyker class and put it in general
they can deal with you there
ANYWAY how cool would it be if assail shards could supercombine like halo's needler
yea make it able to take care of carapace too 
like a perk node that replaces the "pierces extra targets" node but instead lets them supercombine in elites
how dare you judge how something is working? assail is fine and if you love halo so much why are you playing darktide? go play halo where the needler works

blocked
aww poor baby stopped getting attention for his shit take
nah but it replaces the pierces extra targets which about halves its horde clear abilities but it can then supercombine on elites in a (small) explosion
Could be interesting to add stuff like that in the future
Adding locks to blitz upgrades
then you could do a lightning bolt upgrade to smite where prolonged smite has a small chance to call down lightning bolts on affected targets
like 5% chance per target per second after 5 seconds increasing by say 2.5% per second or something
and perhaps lightning strike kills can quell peril
then for brain burst you could do like "while brain burst is charging on a target there is a 50% (too high?) chance for the creature to become hostile to enemies for 5 seconds before brain bursting" and then make it not work on minibosses
I played bb/purg/shriek and it still feels pretty good
I somehow ended up doing 80% of the damage to the boss just using purg
what the hell i missed the argument
fair
his solution was to argue for the removal of stat rolls i think but it wasn't really clear.
warp fried him already 😔
he was just raging BuT It DoEsN'T MaKe SeNsE ItS nOt ImMeRsIvE oR hOw I WaNt iT
now he moved to ogryn channel
are you guys mental or something? or just not able to have a civil discussion when someone says something you dislike?
i dont understand, i come up and say i dislike the stat system because some stats just make no sense and are not immersive because they just feel plain dumb
later you start spouting about differences youd like to see happen or suggestions, a second later
The weapon stat system is mostly there to provide a target for grinders
im okay with that, i was saying some stats are just meaningless and feel dumb
If they didn’t have it the game would have emptied out in a few weeks
like movement speed on a knife
yeah, people were being very obnoxious
🤷♀️ it’s not really important
regardless of what they thought about that viewpoint
i know its not important, its only 20% here and there, the point was it can be used to have more depth or actual impact
e erhone runs faster with a knife
I’d rather it didn’t as a non grinder
Right now it’s mostly a low level thing I can ignore
mostly
And I’d personally like it to stay that way
Yeah some people think you need a 380 base to do anything in game and perfect traits and perks and whatnot
all i was saying is the system feels very shallow on a surface level
and its not enjoyable to grind towards
it is what it is
There seems to be some disagreement on that front as there are loads of grinders
i think its fine
kinda, yeah, gameplay is still great, which is why im playing
yeah it's fine
System needs to strike a balance between not ticking off us non grinders and still being grindy enough for the majority of grinders
i honestly dont mind a grind but this is just "hit 80 on important stats LMAO" kinda
Tf happened in here, jesus
I honestly don't like intangible damage progression
When I'm chasing a bunch of variations of "increase your damage by game magic" it feels uneventful
I’d rather they’d remove weapon stats entirely as in left 4 dead
It’d be great, we could focus on the gameplay
But lots of people want to grind 🤷♀️

You can but if you want to try different weapon perks… back to the grind
but you want stats gone
Stats is not the same as weapon customization
You can focus on gameplay, auric may be a bit more difficult but from what Ive seen with a bunch of people, the game boils down far more to player skill than anything
Squad doesn’t have individual weapon variance but does have weapon customization
honestly I'd be fine if all weapons of the same Mk had the exact same stats, no variation, trying to find a decent stat-roll adds nothing to my enjoyment
Understood, have a nice day.
“Working for it” 😂
You’re so locked into grind mentality you can’t imagine anything else
exactly what about RNG constitutes "work" ?
auric legit is several different games, and some of them are balanced terrible
I just wish there was an easier way of understanding the difference between the mk1 devil sword, mk2, mk3, Mk4, archys, gorgonian, isiisifi whatever
Cause when I see there's like, 6 different dueling swords. Tf
quite a few around items that have warped the metagame ie vet regen, hammer boss clear
I agree, the differentiation should be looks as well as gear
Imagine if the player could at least see the moveset before buying from Brunt's
and as such if you play those weird aurics you will really struggle without their meta items
Yeah like why doesn’t the meatgrinder have the option to set up weapons and traits on the weapons?
Honestly I haven't done auric and I may not, it sounds like it passes that threshold of being hard just to be hard, I'm here to have fun, not take a journey through the cock and ball torture factory
I have never met one individual who would utter these words and not be blatantly misunderstanding what the other person was trying to say
sir, this is 40k
we bashed our heads against auric malestrom melee a bunch of times yesterday without a vet and while it's possible imo it's legit more of an increase in difficulty than any other increase in difficulty in the game
auric/maelstrom is awesome
cause it turns off significant class features
max clout
It's incredibly easy to boil someone's argument down to "you just don't want to put effort into it" to make the other person look like an irredeemable clown, but it's also a kind of stupid thing
What an astute observation that has nothing to do with the topic at hand
It's like there's only two extremes and nothing else
foudn the guy who doesn't know 40k lore
it was a joke, calm down
If you dislike the way something works, some automatically assume you want it completely nuked out of orbit and you can't possibly do anything besides utterly hate it
"Oh, I don't like this enemy"
"So you want it removed because you suck at fighting it and you're trying to kill the game and"
Are you talking to me? I'm not asking for Auric to be removed, I'm just probably not gonna dip my feet into it
I'm talking about this dismissive idiocy
Oh, yeah agreed
Foudn the guy who can't play above malice
auric isnt that much harder
also i feel a lot of auric heresy is easier than regular damnation
found the guy who can't argue so just insults
Such arguments never help anyone and it feels like "I want you to shut up because I don't have a modicum of brainpower to actually say something of substance"
What did i miss
people being choosy beggars
gear hard, pls giff free
I mean, there's plenty of people in this server who can attest I can play above malice and do it very well
DIP THEM
its fun
especially auric heresy
its fun to 1shot stuff all the time again
What range weapon does assail go with?
revolver
Wat
Voidstrike
VS covers carapace which is all thats really left with assail 
voidstike is just op
Handcannon blessing is bugged.
it doesnt synergize, its just strong
nah can kill stuff at range faster
What did they do to voidstrike?
Pretty much everything rn
Me when the voidstrike has ammo and a reload
Is just a worse voidstrike
Arguable, revolver can be whipped out instantly and fired instantly, good for immediate results
And does a quarter of the damage and doesn't do two shots when you crit
i've heard some use vraks for monsters haven't tried though. surge is also decent against cara now so if you like zapping more or miss smite
imagine having to dodge a sniper, this post made by revolver gang
The Voidstrike can as well

and doesnt insta kill snipers
In fact an uncharged Voidstrike shot probably does the same damage as a revolver shot
not even close
I. Seriously doubt that
not even remotely true
You're vastly underselling the revolvers damage
Same damage
average voidstrike player brain
Everything else is revolver cope 
The charge shot, sure.
The uncharged, absolutely not. Lmfao
yeah i think at like 60% charge they match
Revolver does what 600
Do we have stats to settle this debate? 
id have to test that tho
while i wouldn't personally use revolver on psyker I'd much rather have a revolver if my exclusive goal was killing a sniper.
Voidstrike does 1400 max charge
Watch snypd and millions of other Warhammer 40,000: Darktide videos on Medal, the largest Game Clip Platform.
ayes
Your claim was uncharged does MORE than a revolver.
also counting crit smh
lel
I'm gonna uh
What perks should I get on mk4 blaze sword?
Basically the same damage*

i think they said same unless there were multiple messages with that
Stop asking about bleed knife and start asking about surge revolver
No one's making the claim that the revolver is stronger than a charged void strike.
Considering voidstrike is also overtuned
tbh
not even close
At this point its just comedy
hi what blessings should i use on this?
Oh boy here we go
Slaughterer and your choice of blessing
you can't reroll your blessings so i don't think there's really much to ask 
Bloodthirsty is nice, but so is deflector and unstable power
unless you just mean what should you use on illisi
"I was trolling guys you guys got trolled, guys believe me I was trolling"
I called someone else coming into the conversation late with the same words comedy
And with psyker getting some crit shenanigans, maybe shred
I mean 200 or 600 is basically the same though
Oh yeah, the blessings are locked

why cant i reroll them?
You can only reroll two choices
you rerolled perks twice
you can only reroll 2 things on a weapon - 2 blessings, 2 perks, or 1 of each
ahh i see
What perks should I put on blaze sword?
flak and maniac pretty much
200
i wouldn't worry too much as the general stats on that could probably be improved anyway, so its not a huge loss. you can always rip the riposte off since its t4 even if it won't be used
That's not even the uncharged shot though
inshallah, the primary action is the funny ball
pretty sure uncharge meant min-charge
Ye
yea they didn't mean generic staff left clicks hopefully
I don't know how much they tweaked it, but voidstrike's minimum charge last I tested it was absolute shit
actually, do diff staffs have different primary action damage profiles?
Who uses the left clicks on staves other than purgatus
they all function basically the same right
why are you guys arguing over the hypothetical damage of something you aint doing, which is entirely uncharged shots
(Except that insane Surge user who used it all the time)
Because I riled up the revolver users
on surge staff
so this weapon is better you think?
Aight fuck it, I'm relaunching the game to look at the fucking stats
That's not bad. Change the perk to flak or maniac and its fine
i mean, I'm in the psykanium right now, with a pretty good voidstrike, and an uncharged alt-fire hits bodyshots mutant for about 90 damage
precog is ass, but it has some better damage perks and shred is poggers
"revolver"
Precog is good now tho smh
Just dodge things
90 to what, that doesn't sound right at all
2s on dodge
amazing its even worse
mutant
Lmfao
Basically the same
fatte nuttes

i feel like we could've said moving on without that comment tbh 
You're not allowed to move on.
annd a headshot
Denied.
Uncharged Void is for Blazing memes, which is exactly that at this point, a meme
move on my balls
mmem
it's hard to even do a completely uncharged shot
you spend some time moving your cursor to aim too
Isn't Lmb just an uncharged shot
we're playing a stats game and someone said the uncharged staff did the same damage as revolver
I miss when Void had a skill ceiling D:
no its stronger
By how much?
depends on the target
did it? You still basically do the same shit now but you also shoot crushers in the face now because it does damage now
135 vs 77 on my staff vs unarmored
your void is doing 77 damage to unarmored on a min-charge?
I'll be honest, void staff is boring. I only use it when using smite so I have a long range option
fuckin glowy balls
i used to shoot crushers in the face with it rapid fire just for the stagger, only change is it now staggers them out of existence
114 uncharged, 499 revolver, same area of a mutant
that sounds like the explosion damage
revolver
revolver gaming
Yeah I'll probably change to revolver tbh
Yeah, you had to learn quell cancelling, it wasnt applicable in every situation so you had to use other bits of your toolkit more an such. Now i keep seeing people just using Void, barely using the blitz unless its Assail, basiclaly never employing melee, because why swap when you can do everything with one staff, it went from taking a bit of mechanical knowledge to deadbrain stupid meta shit in one patch
also the semi auto headhunter is fun
Dueling sword with revolver is the tits now
I rock purgatus on my BB build
Slap shred and uncanny on the sword, point blank and speedload on the revolver and you're a real pirate gamer
yeah thats my staff of choice, with bb and an axe
tho DS are better axes right now

Melee psyker gaming
I mean its likely gonna get brought back to earth in like a week or two so *shrug*
why shred instead of the crit chance for 6s on dodge?
Supported by the Emperor's will
Yeah I'm using dueling sword, very reminiscent of Viktors rapier in vermintide.
So coming from a witch hunter main, feels like home
Most probably
Because shred depends solely on me 
ok, yeah it can really be that low if you try, but in practice you are never going to do min-charges in-game even when you are somewhat trying to
this is why i have avoided them
did not like it on saltz
That's fair, I just think the added agility is really helpful on the sentient wet napkin that is a psyker
even barely any charge already multiplies the damage
except, people actually think that QC machine-gunning uncharged shots still does huge damage, when it doesn't, it just tickles
Honestly the biggest selling point on the revolver for me was it's draw-to-ads speed
I use it on my zealot and I can be mulching a crowd, see a sniper, pop their head real fast, and go back to mulching. Feels good
kinda just not possible with most things
idk I found it kinda nice to pull like 500k damage per match barely trying, its a nice change from basically having to omega tryhard with trauma sliding and shit just to keep up, enjoy it while you can
fuck assail tho that shit is a little silly

can do this vs maulers too
wtf do your revolvers look like that they oneshot maulers. mine don't do that (at least on damnation 😭)
would be cool if assail relied more on you actually aiming it, dunno how you'd swing that but that would be nice
Nah, as soon as something becomes so easy you dont have to try, my enjoyment all but vanishes from using said thing. Think i did two games with Void an was like, nahh, fuck this, they ruined it
not a 1tap tho
they might just need to remove Surge blessing for void, 'cos outside of that interaction, its DPS isn't even that great
not that they 1shto
What are you smoking
guess its your time to try another class for a bit, or just go back to trauma sweatlording and still doing less than brr void
I want some of it definitely
Same, I typically avoid the High-Grade meta stuff cause of this stuff. It's boring to be good with the best stuff.
but they peirce commons and do good damage to carapace/flak
it does very high damage, but with a high charge time, so the damage over time is fairly mid
Ive been playing Scriers/Recon Las last couple days tbh
it's amazing without surge and flurry isn't far behind it anyway
honestly I need surgical on mine so i can more consistently 2 or 3 shot maulers
The charge time is 1.6s at 80% iirc. That's not very long for a free plasma shot with cleave
You're calling someone a sweatlord as "void strike enjoyer"?
Bruh
Ive had this name since the game came out
it would be 1.6s at 100%
its not my fault they overtuned void 
Ive been voiding since day 1
He's alright mate, been here for ages with that name ye
My idea for it is to make the same effect it already has, where shards keep buzzing around an enemy, but instead making it a channeled ability that needed you to maintain your mouse button held down on an enemy for the shards to keep slapping them, and if you place your crosshair on a different enemy it'll stop attacking the current one and go to that enemy instead
Kinda like a sustained brain burst
Not sure what the alt-fire would be tho
Ounno, the little boop it does isn't satisfying to me. Unleashing a torrent of blue/white fire on the other hand. Veeery satisfying
ideally they lose tracking when you switch off because right now you can shit out 10 shards and just keep aiming them while meleeing
Plus,
Meta is boring
vrosky, voidstrike has one of the crunchiest headshot sounds in the game
making the shards last longer but do a bit less damage would be pretty good
nah, that's the one interaction that I want to keep
being able to throw them and switch to something else is a fun mechanic, that should stay
and my a bit I mean a lot bit, probably 
it should be a quickswap weapon
Meta in this game tends to be pretty boring yeah, because it often tends to be something thats x5 better than everything else and has been historically in almost every example
in the psykanium right now, without surge interaction, putting fully charged bodyshots into a mutant until it dies results in a dps of....... 377
Yeah, the idea is to make the player dedicate themselves to the attack
there are actual numbers here, its not an opinion
I mean thats certainly how Ive been using it, fair enough
at least for starters, its ammo regen and max ammo need to be tuned down so that it can't be used as a primary weapon
^
Fully charged body shots into mutants 
i really want it to have better accuracy and less tracking
and being reliably to hit 3 targets with Ethereal Shards is questionable
my idea is to add that to the RMB
Less aimbot would be a good start for assail too
okay, what target would you prefer I test on?
since the current RMB is a slow mode that is evidently supposed to cover Assail's lack of range (fairly rare to be in situations where its range is lacking)
i just want it to stop missing stuff at point blank range
Brianburst has the most satisfying head crunch noise in the game
your mom
What curios should I run?
And perks?
dockets
😭
aim-assisted LMB and a straight deterministic throw for the RMB
lol your dad
doing fully charged headshots onto Crusher, with Void without Surge procs, results in 850 dps, which isn't that crazy

Tbf you're right it's DPS doesn't compare against much other than carapace unless people are running high rending right now but it has a lot of other benefits along with full damage to all armor types.
If I didn't run dockets I would probably go for 5% health, 5% toughness, 4% combat ability regen
Ah
yeah I always run +tough, +health, with my 3rd perk being whatever I'm feeling like on the day
Gunner resistance for life
if you don't run ball you could prob make an argument for gunner resist somewhere
Ball?
Ball.
uhh bubble
Ball.
Though assail users don't need it tbf
blue ball
Idea to balance shards
Ah the ball
blue glowy ball
Big ball
The SPHERE
less ammo and regen
Regen fully after 30s
Teammates are stored in the balls
I was just gonna say that you start with none and you have to actually kill shit to get them, but you can’t get more by getting kills with the shards themselves
oh god, dome being "blue balls" from now on, what have you done
Basically it forces you to use other stuff
But I like blue balls
sadly the double talent isnt allowed with blue ball
Lets make it a 5% chance on kill for fun
So, I noticed that I have less Stamina in the mission vs. the Psykhanium. Do Heresy and Damnation also reduce your available Stamina and I just never noticed?
Me when I first experienced the bubble bug and multicasted like 4 bubbles
does one of your stamina curios have a base rating of 75
Overall? Yeah I can see that
Yes. Is it a rounding error/feature?
no way that matters 
presumably or something of that sort
75 rating stamina curios display that they give +3 stamina and do this correctly in the psykhanium
but they give +2 stamina in missions for some reason
:1
FAT SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
scrungled

Who needs stamina when you have orb
once again, dont only test in psy
Melk! I want my money back!
Never leave it's safety
its never been 100% true to life
hey arco whats the highest + toughness curio you have
so I can feel bad
about not farming that shit when you could still get em by the dozen
I could be wrong but I am almost 95% sure I have a 16
so maybe I grandfathered in some shit from ages past or something
hmm
Could do it like Zealot has his throwing knives. Kill Specialists/Elites in melee for one charge back again.
also I have a +21 health and dont think Ive seen a higher one
so its not like the numbers are "nice"
21 is the max yees
well thats at least reassuring
I gotchu: 21
I fuckin wish toughness went to 21
21% + 4% secondary roll i believe
didnt realize how far off i was
5 secondary
So total of 25%
but yes
5% for perk. 26% max hp per curio
toughnes and helth both have 5% on the perk
Ahh is it 5%, righto
Nearly 300 hp giga psyker 
Ye
Maybe? I do want it to still be a large part of the gameplay cycle, rather then hoping you can get kills on specials
Ngl im starting to see a lot more case for toughness over HP on Psyker this patch
i like the idea that you would find assail shards in random ammo boxes around the map
I run 3x toughness
That’s been my build so far, one that’s encouraged by the perk that regens toughness for peril quelled
was it the game basically telling you that psyker is sorta meant to stack toughness? 
It stil would be tbh, bunch of specials get into melee range a lot of the time, its not overly hard to get them back with that cycle
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
Not really, ive always been a proponent of buffing the bigger reserve, not the smaller one, i just dont find myself getting hit all that much to warrant it these days
thats my mentality: taking a stray hit gets blocked fully, and you should never build around more than that
several specials ignore toughness
also getting caught out by gunners because youre meming
Oh wait mb, I thought you meant that it was gonna be like how the vet used to have a chance to give teammates grenades back on special kill. Maybe 2 shards per special at 10 cap?
Those hits can all be avoided with sensible plays tho
Other than Snipers not playing their audio cues, which has been a problem of late
But thats solved by resist perks
Silent trappers are a constant for me
Yeah had a few of those too, not as many though
Snipers are a massive pain
and bombers, and flamers, and bursters
Not had the issue with those
As of late their lasers have been bugging out, making it hard to track them
what the heck is goin on with y'alls games, I havent had any of that in like 20 hours since the patch 
It’s made worse by the fact that if it does show up, it’s for a split second before the shot, meaning your probably gonna get shat on
Bombers do have a throwing arm that could put them in major cricket or baseball leagues tho 
My long search for the perfect Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword continues. I should've made a list of spent money, plasteel & Diamantine.
Short bus space marines
To be fair,they're chaos'd up. Pretty sure that falls under doping.
Lol, true
i think the worst i've had is a sniper not doing its sound cue
guess I'm lucky that all the times I got hit by sniper was my own dumb ass getting the dodge timing wrong
damn my back 
hey a devils claw
Is this a mod, where do you see this window
hm, [whatever] prescience
It feels almost anti-synergetic with everything else
you get a damage boost that most of your class stuff can't leverage because your peril is out of control
and if you use a gun, there's never going to be time to drag it out because you can't reduce peril with a gun, and staffs are the best way to do that. Killing only goes so far. 🤔
Mod
download scoreboard and scoreboarddamage
scoreboard mod
😠
mods are good
Scrier's + gun works pretty well. It has some issues atm, but its good for gun builds
I still think it’s stupid for darktide to not have a score board
That's op mane but you should have just used assail way more.
It doesn't mean it feels like any less of an ability that works against itself.
any of these worth snagging to learn the blessing?
i alr used it alot, maybe more 
Me when I play assail and get below 50 melee kills. 
i took savage sweep rampage
doesn't help that if you hit 100% peril because of anything else whilst it's going on, you still boom. Which sucks.
none of them took out melee
vet idea of horde clear is spam chainsword light into horde
idk it would still be less in depth than the mod so the people that care would still get a mod and everyone else would feel worse, I have no issue with there not being one natively
Ogryn using mk3 club and mk5 stubber is a brave man.
you have to cast something after being at 100% to pop
scoreboard mod is fine, like 0.1% of people playing care about their score anyway
sweaty players who care (us) just get the mod and still get their epeen extension and everyone else gets to just have fun and not worry
To be honest mate, scoreboard is even less relevant this patch because of the amount of plays you can make that dont directly involve killing shit
yea t3 savage seems stronger than t4 wrath oddly
I only care plasteels picked stat. 
Zealots Relic, Smite, Vet's auto-revive + stealth for res', Oggies Taunt etc
nah, i only use it to feel bad about myself
I feel like a scoreboard should have: kills, specialist kills, boss damage, and accuracy, and that should be good. Maybe log the number of healing and ammo boxes dropped and Medicare charges used
barrels detonated
dunno its like the true level stuff, its being tracked but not displayed natively for a reason
isn't it like "if you're above 92.5% and do something that takes you to 100%"
Which is what makes seer's prescience so jank because that can trigger exploding your head (not just ending the ability) if you fire the wrong thing on a number that's constantly growing.
unless they changed it its always been 97% is safe
nope, gotta be at 100%
yeah BB can be cast at 100% if you start charging at 97%
everything else pops you at 100%
theres a Penance to cancel the pop with venting shriek, i recomend all psykers do that one deliberatly so you get a better feel for when you pop
just whenever you have shriek up, be stupid with casting
i've been playing since beta lol
It's specifically the new abilities plus not having played since July that's been throwing it off.
doubly so the fact that the rate of increase with prescience keeps growing.
I thought I read someone say it doesn't work like that anymore
i use scoreboard as metrics to know if i actaully did something in a match or just felt like im doing something in a match
yeah BB annd staff m2 are cancelable, surge and assail m1 are not
Please give me a guide to a psyker
which is why you are the core audience for the mod, most players aren't really
Please give me a build for a psyker
a lot of people just want to gloat they did better or even threaten the sake of the match/team just to get better scores and higher damage
they exist
Just experiment my guy
short 
@normal sandits free to respec, you can just try out and see what feels better or worse
Far better to feel out everything instead of being told what to do
no
you can do it after every match even
the number of times I have blown myself up with assail because "oops clicked one too many times and this one has no protection unlike basically every other psyker ability" is hilarious.
axe
if only staff m1s were good
@spice veldt @summer prairie
Rending and Uncanny Strike are actually pretty powerful now. In the worst case you get a 1.25x multiplier on your damage (caps at 1.25x for some reson), in the best case you get 8-9x depending on what the armour modifier originally was.
It's not realistic, but if you really squeeze it and stack rending and other buffs in the grinder I can make an Assail dart hit a Reaper head for 1024 damage, when without any buffs it hits for 238.
maybe we'd have learned
Rending Shockwave into Assail might make for some ridiculous elite clear
Purgatus staffs little LMB poot can buy you a second or two to charge up it's gout
tbf assail is also way higher peril gain than a staff.
i wish staff headshots could actually reliably kill chaff. We're already dealing with projectile travel times and no sights ffs
Good on Surge if you need to kill that annoying Sniper way over there
Its much better this patch, well worth dusting off
why use surge now when you can just sith lightning things instead
staff lclicks were buffed a lot.
I prefer to employ weaponized aneurysms for snipers
Because that hardly kills owt
and yet, i still see so many enemies walking around after plinking them in the head.
you were bringing surge to kill things?
Yes... its a direct damage staff in this patch, not a CC stick
cuz throwing a shard or shooting a revolver every 5 melee hits for a guaranteed crit feels nice
surge is for killing things now
Ah, I'll take a look at it, then, didn't realise the niche had changed.
When Void gets nerfed Surge is gonna be very competative
Purgatus users rise up
eww 
seriously though, let staff M1's actually kill scabs or something on a headshot. or... something to make it less "you have a basic lasgun, and it's worse to hit with" <_>
minimum charge 74% damage
much better single target with still a bit of cc
Purgatus supremacy
nice
who needs their upper body anyways
a classic
No torso = harder for heretics to hit you
The real shirtless bug
we've been lied to, sustained fire
i know we got some cool shit but i think ogryns big boom is my favorite thing
exterminatus at home
except better
who uses which build?
Just do yourself a favor and don't touch assail
It's ridiculously overpowered and it's gonna piss you off when it gets inevitably nerfed, probably into the dirt. And everything else will feel weak in comparison
I feel like it would be so easy to balance
whats the lie
its already more fun to use staff then swap for hordes
It's just stuff this broken usually warrants a knee-jerk reaction from devs and it gets nerfed too hard
so just make it a mechanic where you earn assail shards instead of just lazily sitting in it full time
I bet good players use it that way anyway since you dont get the CC you get sitting on your staff
case in point
Class Overhaul - Auric Maelstrom Damnation Gameplay|Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
00:00 Psyker tries to save his team, but can't control Peril..
3:53 Psyker Saves the Team
7:54 Great teamwork to conquer Monstrous Hab Dreyko
21:12 Final Event is Crazy
28:42 Build and Talent Trees
Discord: https://discord.gg/GbN5ZzjRQE
Leave a follow at https://ww...
agreed.
its fun to swap for a few spams to clear a pack though
I play vet mostly. assail is like, you arent even playing.
love trying to kill shit just for a blue homing shard to fly across my screen and kill everything before I even get close
very fun
they are very weak against armored heads so, i guess in a good group you know they will zip and keep shit off you while you focus bigger targets
i love assail because it's literally the same thing vet had to deal with this entire time
now vet is the meh class and psykers are doing all the killing

"shoot my blue glow now bitch"
is brautogun a good pick for gunker?
I genuinely cannot wait for the assail nerf
Psykers can't get brauto right?
oh can they not?
Just crafted this, I'm putting warp nexus instead of transfer peril. Should I replace weakspot with 5% crit or something else?
Don't use assail
Fuck assail
Me and my homies all hate assail
i'd go with 5% crit over weakspot yeah
thanks
u guys use anything else than the sword? cringe
imagine not using only blaze void 
The sword?
I weaponize aneurysms with purgatus staff/dueling sword
It was definitely getting replaced, it's just a matter of what's the best
kids this days using cringe glass shards and zapping for 2dmg
I started like smite alot but it seems to lag out people's computers, so. Back to aneurysms

Use brainrupture like a true intellectual
Yeah.
Aneurysm
soulblaze bb build on top
best against hordes
Brain burst is the lamest skill
no u
day 884 of waiting for assail nerf
Soldier you better not fucking use assail and have the audacity to call anything else lame
Can't say brainburst is lamest when smite exists
i though that only smart people played psyker
not after last update 
how is trauma after the las update?
People who call smite lame only obsess over the highest damage numbers and can't fathom support gameplay
still top tier
mechanically the same with a small damage bump to compensate for the increased hp of enemies
People sweating over how void is so strong but kike
feels the same as usual
albeit a bit snappier with the buffs to the staffs' swap times, lmb, and whatnot
trauma has insane clutch potential
At least you can larp as the lame emperor from star wars with smite and its tickling damage
Brain burst is just
Lame
thats great
Everything about it is boring
bro larping starwars in 2023
I use assail bro
I need that crying wojack with a mask
Yeah it's really exhilarating to stand there and let flying daggers literally do everything for you with minimal effort
and a peril 99% bar
It looks cool and feels good at least
Try using a Dclaw 
you guys put in work? i just ping where enemies are and let the team do everything while i eat cheetos
It blasts illisi out of the damn water
It really says something when you don't even have to build around assail
It just plays the game for you without any effort
my teamates in a nutshell

i swear veteran have a skill perk that if u ping someone it deals 5 dmg or something
I mean I appreciate pings
What 
Easy for me to grab with brain burst from a mile away
Get that nice meaty crownch on the sniper whos hiding
thats a feature
Feels so much better than Auto-Play fairy darts
It's also funny that a ton of people in this chat have said they stopped using assail cause it got boring
the best skill is the one u dont have to use imagine switching weapons and using ur kit like... come on
Imagine that, a skilless ability that does it all for you gets boring
I only use it on my meme surge build

I use brainburst like, 90% of the time lol. I'm always looking for excuses to get that crownch
Chaos spawn comes out. Bubble.
Woe, 30 brain aneurysm be upon ye
Fight it with duelling sword like a honorable gentleman
Psyker needs a glove throw button
Despicable
Homie one of the voice packs for male psyker has a pretend warp waifu
Any Precogs here to tell when next hotfix is incoming - dooming some fun stuff to be nerfed and other stuff to be somewhat fixed ?
i feel so warm and my toes curl when a psyker calls me beloved
Maybe more than one iunno, I play a female psyker
its like siennas darling but not as good
P-pregos..?
no need to shame not everyone has rockfriends like ogryns
imaginary is the second best option
Precogs.. typo. Fingers too tired from clicking to much 🙂
Counter-point. Female psyker has a French accent option
that is my psykers voice
Enforces psyker is haitian accent right?
psyker french? switching to zealot rn
Oh yeah that's probably what that is
It's also one of the only voice packs on psyker that doesn't constantly say cringe things in a goofy voice
i like the part when french psyker says something about an enforcer
There's a male one that I think tried to do like a maniacal giggle. But it just fuckin sounds like goofy
embrace it
But he is dull as zealot's brain....
No flavor to personality, only special accent
He almost feel like a normal person
Is it dull because it doesn't try to impersonate goofy with it's cringe laugh and obsessing over his warp waifu?
beacuse he is too much of Enforcer
How is that dull
I find a psyker capable of maintaining sanity and not doing a goofy impersonation everytime you vent, alot more enjoyable
Protocol, dicipline..... how much more dull can anyone be, He don't talk about anything interesting at all, no jokes at all.
is that where the whole mall cop thing comes from?
..what?
yeah ive been hearing people call the male enforcer the mall cop
But we are playing misfit bunch of quirky convicts . And he alone does fit the profile.
Ogryns is a treat to listen 🙂
Not the bully one, it's boring af
Bodyguard and whatever the one I used forgot the name, are great
And there's a vet one, I believe it's cutthroat, that is no jokes or anything just a very, get the job done and go home, type
The Irish Catholic voice for zealot is also boring, I regret choosing it, he hardly interacts with the others
i chose it and i got tired of it reaaal fast
Yeah it's extremely boring
You stop that bully slander
Lets be honest every single Zealot personaliy - sucks. It's either boring or insufferable
@idle bay it's not that the enforcer voice is lame, it's that you prefer the silly, goofy voices, which is fine. But it all comes down to preference
i will say tho, the loose cannon voice on vet might be my favorite
Bully's combat lines don't stand out as much but he has some choice conversations
There's a female zealot voice that is voiced by Sienna's voice actress that fucking Kills me everytime I hear it
I like the one where he calls any and all vets "SAH" and obsesses over rations
All Ogryns are supposed to be obsessed with rations 🙂
Well one voice pack likes them quite a bit more than the others
This legendary fellow
There are 2 kinds of Ogryn outlooks in the game: either as goofy as possible or as badass as possible. No middle variants 🙂
But there names always need to be something very short and with minimal vowels
Mines Pudd.
Draktide ogryns and nobel prize nominees by other normal ogryns standarts. They can speak with sentences
Still can only count to 3 though
is casting smite forever a bug?
Yuh
Empowered psionics make it unlimited cast, tho it doesn't say it does
Meh
FS don't like bugs even if result is cool.
One of the first thing to be nerfed. 2nd is probably turning Assail into wet noodle
Use it until they take it away. This is a game not a job, play what’s fun
It does if your team is dumb as shit and doesn't capitalize
Which, happens far more often than it should
(holding down an entire squad if maulers and ogryns)
(Team has wandered off in search of new horizons)
I usually leave psykers who abuse infinismite because it melts my framerates more than it does the horde
You might not kill much with that CC, but you will for sure create a LOT of breathing room for the team to kill everything you cc. It's like being in a team with 2 Ogryns - they barely score a lot of kills (just moderate amount) - but they so good at herding and controlling the flow of enemies - that other teamates have easy time of butchering everything. Very notcable on Damnation
yes sah!
No one yet posted a dick made from those domes?
surprisingly not. Everyones still learning about the build
lol
Whould you do the honors then? 🙂
Ill try my best I have yet to sleep 
do auras stack with other people of the same class?
no
what if we're using different auras?
alrighty, cheers
Might aswell have fun while you can
it's not even that fun to use
you just stand there and lightning goes everywhere
it's like
ok
residentsleeper
I fail to see where the fun isn't
lol
Should I just be machine gunning it with the surge voidstrike blessing?
Or keep charging with the extras as an added bonus
Imagine for a moment. A hotfix day.
FS: we looked at fun Ogryns were having with new toys and decided - kark it! Crazy powerful fun stuff for everyone!
i just tried smite for the first time
what the hell is this 
how is this useful to anyone
Machine gun for horde. Charge for big ones
Mutants, poxbursters, hounds and ragers
so you help them grab you
Stunlocking whole mutant wave 
interesting trade
Charge it
On lower difficulty it's not that useful. On high difficulty with high enemy dencity - it's priceless if used right - it alliveates the preasure on the team and creates a pause in enemy adavance and breathing room for your team to murder prority targets and CC'ed enemies
And dodgeslide left/right while casting to avoid being grabbed
so this is what hell feels like




