psyker-class

[plucky token]

Still, it's a very nice pony to have.

[sharp shoal]

good

[fluid knot]

Indeed

[uncut hamlet]

thats good to hear i like plasma

[zinc phoenix]

It’s fun af

[woeful cliff]

it's still inferior to hellbore III

imo

[sharp shoal]

ima mess around as vet in a minute

I don't like helbore

At all

[uncut hamlet]

helbore felt clunky to me the one time i used it

yea

[zinc phoenix]

I always be bayoneting with that gun

[plucky token]

They did a good job balancing most of the guns this update. Everything is somewhat viable I think.

[fluid knot]

Im just waiting for shotgun buffs so i can enjoy Vet 😔

[sharp shoal]

I tried it

Several missions

Just don't enjoy it

[woeful cliff]

You can one shot crushers with hellbore III with proper build

[sharp shoal]

I can cut em in half as psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Wait but really how people building their trauma sticks in the new world?

[uncut hamlet]

shotgun zealot was pretty fun, but i last used it pre patch so idk if its stil lviable rn

[sharp shoal]

In a couple swings

[sly nexus]

find who used Assail

https://i.gyazo.com/2084ec6205f6c05d47bd718ad5fdc4d4.png

[uncut hamlet]

i went assail dome warp charges

[sharp shoal]

Take about 2-3

[fluid knot]

I would imagine same as last patch mate

[woeful cliff]

There's very few things a hellbore CANT one shot

[modest solstice]

why are people saying electric staff sucks!

[woeful cliff]

Even monstrosities

[sharp shoal]

they get sliced in half

[woeful cliff]

Take almost half their health in a weakpoint

[fluid knot]

Because they comparing it to broken Voidstrike (not a comparison anyone should be making seriously)

[uncut hamlet]

idt it does? ive seen ppl use it, but i havent myself

[zinc phoenix]

I didn’t play last patch… or several before 😂 last time I played seriously there was one force sword

[modest solstice]

https://youtu.be/I_G-UIyVMLM

[plucky token]

Surge Staff? It doesnt. It's just different.

[sharp shoal]

see assail needs to be nerfed

[uncut hamlet]

^

[sly nexus]

assail does need to be nerfed

its busted

[sharp shoal]

Exactly

[woeful cliff]

I just feel like it's too easy tbh

[fluid knot]

I beleive Nexus/Blazing is the go too for many

[modest solstice]

assail doesnt need to be nerfed, smite and brainburst need to be buffed

[woven pumice]

empowered smite is actually so good 😭

[sharp shoal]

Nah

[sly nexus]

getting like double/triple the damage my team is doing just from assail

[sharp shoal]

Nerf assail

[fluid knot]

No, Assail definetly needs a nerf

[sharp shoal]

Smite n burst are fine

[woeful cliff]

Assail is ok, a little overtuned but it's basically braindead to use effectively.

[plucky token]

I think Assail just need it's Shard Cooldown lowered. It's damage should be powerful, but it charges so fast you can use it as a primary.

[woven pumice]

can just hold charged smite at 99 peril forever while empowered

[woeful cliff]

I feel like that's just a bug tho

[sly nexus]

"assail doesnt need to be nerfed"

[plucky token]

Thats a bug. THey are gonna fix that.

[sly nexus]

https://i.gyazo.com/91d40f54a76ffd1035a7bee6707b50bf.png

[fluid knot]

Make it less aimbotty, reduce the damage, keep the short cooldown is what i would do

[woven pumice]

gonna enjoy it while it lasts

[plucky flax]

Assail gamers

[woven pumice]

hope they do at least give empowered smite reduced peril

this shit is so much fun

[modest solstice]

smite is bad compared to the other options

[sly nexus]

smite seems underwhelming compared to assail

[ornate hamlet]

Using this with Scrier's gaze

[fluid knot]

Its pretty funny that so many ex-vets are now playin Assail Psyker aye

[sly nexus]

like why would oyu not just take assail and use it as a primary at this point

[woeful cliff]

I agree with it being less accessible but only slightly because it's a fun ability.

[sharp shoal]

I love smite myself

[plucky token]

I think the aimbottyness is fine actually. I think Damage is fine too. It just need to reload WAY slower. Right now you get a shard every second. It should be 1 shard every like 3 seconds.

[fluid knot]

Thats because one of these things is broken

[sly nexus]

id say just make it take longer to recharge spikes

[fluid knot]

[woven pumice]

I've been using brain burst non stop already

not really interested in assail

[sharp shoal]

Because assail ruins the lobby

[plucky flax]

Auto pistol/bolter abusers always gotta find the cheesiest stuff to play.

[sly nexus]

time to recharge spikes should be like double or triple

[sharp shoal]

By being overtuned

[plucky flax]

Oh wait that's me. Xd

[fluid knot]

I would rather strong stuff has a skill ceiling higher than the floor myself, but there we go

[woven pumice]

smite stopping mutants and bombers in their tracks

beautiful

[plucky flax]

I'm just having fun ogrynning man.

[sharp shoal]

Right

[plucky flax]

Big guy is op and tanky af.

[sly nexus]

feels fun to play ogry and save team tho

[zinc phoenix]

Hmm I have but not loving yet

[fluid knot]

Always has been 😄

[sharp shoal]

I had to save the og last run

[zinc phoenix]

Damage on the stick is meh, but blast radius and charge rate are good

[plucky token]

Despite Assail being as broken as it is I still prefer Smite way more. It's just way more useful and lets my other teammates actually have fun and kill stuff.

Im a nice guy like that

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran: "Press F to Rescue Downed Team"

[sharp shoal]

He got swallowed and nearly puked up off the map

[modest solstice]

i think assail is fine, i think it just needs more damage, but less richochette, make it super powerful but only bounce once

[feral verge]

lol

[plucky flax]

I don't need the heavy hitter keystone at all. Already doing so much damage from bleed and heavy attacks. Feel no pain is just op tanky.

[woeful cliff]

Maybe lean into how strong it is by tuning it further and have it be "Cooldown" based.

Like, you use peril to summon a group of shards and can unload them faster than you can now, but actually have downtime.

[sharp shoal]

It was a 5 maelstrom

The og was doing his job

[fluid knot]

Yeah i run that too, super good skill

[royal granite]

either make the recharge on assail longer, severely reduce max crystals or make it do less damage to flak/unyielding. one of those. ONLY ONE.
this is fatshark however so i anticipate all of them being done

[woven pumice]

assail is anti-fun your teammates don't get to shoot anything
smite is pro-fun your teammates get to shoot everything 👴

[plucky flax]

My mk1 bully 4 heavies a crusher already without thrust meme.

[crimson spear]

What is your build?

[plucky token]

[ornate hamlet]

It already does shit dmg to flak. THat's the point of flak armor - to avoid shrapnel

[modest solstice]

i would be ok with higher damage per shard, but doesnt bounce to as many targets

[woeful cliff]

Smite is anti-fun your teammates that go to melee a group of pox walkers get to have 20 frames

[fluid knot]

Yeah MKI Clob is up there with the best weapons the archetype has along with MKIV knoife (the london special)

[sharp shoal]

Not going to happen fear

[royal granite]

less to unyielding then

[sharp shoal]

It already does to much

[plucky flax]

I'm playing haymaker skullcrusher.

[royal granite]

i've spent some time on zealot now and trying to kill specials with an assail psyker around is unfun

[plucky token]

Todd Howard: What you guys don't have 4090s? Casual.

[plucky flax]

I hate long heavy charge so I can't deal with thrust.

[ornate hamlet]

Matter of fact, if it doesn't look human, I don't use shards on it.

[ornate hamlet]

Unless they're Maulers, then I don't throw them at armored humans either.

[royal granite]

idk it seems to do pretty great against ragers

[fluid knot]

You'll hate the other two clobs then, they've yet to see a buff to heavy spool-up :/ Soon tho

I cant wait for MKII to be usable

[plucky flax]

Mk1 is just nice to play. I horde clear with light heavy spam.

Since haymaker keeps stack now it's so op.

[wanton terrace]

This look decent?

[unique mist]

Where can I find a chart of how much damage how many soulblaze stacks do

[ornate hamlet]

Ragers are human-ish. Human targets it does great on. Unless they're wearing thick armor.

[fluid knot]

A few of those blessings are now really good because of that change

[ornate hamlet]

I have that one!

[royal granite]

the tankiest human enemies are maulers and the flak zerkers, idk what they're called

[acoustic spade]

Does Surge even work on the RMB?

[royal granite]

maulers yeah, assail doesn't do great against

[acoustic spade]

or just LMB?

[sly nexus]

assail w empowered psionics

[woeful cliff]

I don't really like cleavers that rely on heavies

[modest solstice]

im just trying to make a full support psyker, its actually working well

[woeful cliff]

They're really impactful when the attack FINALLY comes out but I'm impatient.

[plucky token]

Right click to Shock targets and do massive damage. Left click to pew pew.

[sly nexus]

i run revolver for the pesky armored enemies

[woeful cliff]

I wanna mash left click

[fluid knot]

Gimmie weapons that do best with combos of heavies, lights an special attacks all day

[acoustic spade]

I was talking about the Blessing Surge, on that Voidstrike staff

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, basically, if we see skin/cloth on a human it dies to it. It does okay against ogryn heavy gunners. But I wouldn't use it on anything else.

[plucky flax]

Still undecided what I prefer between shovel and mk1. I think shovel does more damage to single target but because of this haymaker change bully club actually horde clear faster.

[plucky token]

oh

[royal granite]

i've been putting some time into gold damnation now though, and damn running ability cooldown trinkets with the dome makes me feel like a hero

[echo turtle]

telekine shield is bugged with warp charges

[ornate hamlet]

Stun barrier is godly too.

[royal granite]

i'm not doing warp charges

i'm not running bugged builds if i can help it

[fluid knot]

Shovel with BM will do it faster than Clob tbh, but MKI is deffo better at bonkin bigger things. Shovel however has the uppercut which is like THE single target CC attack in DT

[echo turtle]

if you have 6 charges it gives you a 100% cooldown reduction

[ornate hamlet]

How so?

[modest solstice]

what about buffing the shield, the one that gives toughness to allies, can we have it like the new zealot relic thing, so it also gives overshield?

[woeful cliff]

I know 4% is okay but it feels so bad using a curio perk for such a low number.

I wish it was higher.

[royal granite]

instant cooldown, i've seen someone put up like 12 domes simultaneously

[ornate hamlet]

45s CD is still 4.5 seconds.

[echo turtle]

get 6 charges, and you can cast the sphere shield twice back to back

[royal granite]

i like dome but there is such a thing as too much dome

[ornate hamlet]

Well yeah of course. I dont think thats a bug though.

[modest solstice]

yeah, the shield is great

[woeful cliff]

If you use all 3 curios for it, yeah.

[echo turtle]

it is

[plucky flax]

I have bm and skullcrusher on me shovel. I use the mk1 in melee only modifier tho it feels nicer to bonk and stagger big dudes.

[echo turtle]

warp charges are very bugged

[ornate hamlet]

How do you figure?

[royal granite]

you get way more than 2 domes

WAY more

[echo turtle]

becuase they dont work with scriers gaze and are not supposed to give you 100% cdr

[fluid knot]

Oh in that modfier specifically MKI clob is 100% the best pick, no contest

[thin finch]

The sphere shield is bug you can spam it as long as you get one charge in between

[woeful cliff]

I just personally think that there's so many disproportionately higher value perks still.

[echo turtle]

yeah

[fluid knot]

That modifier is so fun man

[ornate hamlet]

I think there's a reaction for that.

[echo turtle]

its supposed to be 7.5% iterated 6 times

[royal granite]

tbf we have disproportionately higher value perks across all the classes

[woeful cliff]

30% toughness regen is a staple ever since its buff

[fluid knot]

This tbh

BiS

[plucky flax]

Gonna play shovel this round.

[echo turtle]

but if if wasnt bugged and you took all the CDR you could you could keep sphere uptime near 100% for a while which is pretty cool

[last sleet]

Am I a bad person if I unskill 50% coherency aura range, in favour of 30% faster assail charges?

[echo turtle]

i would

[ornate hamlet]

Here's the culprit to your bug.

[fluid knot]

Damn thats a nice pooperscooper right there

[thin finch]

Ogryn weapon in psyker canal ?

[echo turtle]

you sure? I dont think thats the issue

[ornate hamlet]

This includes dogs, packs of gunners, ragers, etc. There are MANY CDR options for psyker, bubbles have a high uptime before collapsing.

[plucky flax]

Ogryn strongest.

[unique mist]

How so

[woeful cliff]

For curios

[echo turtle]

I get charges and cast, its already back up without ills

[left turtle]

Drip check les go

[fluid knot]

Most of the long term players multi-class mate so discussions end up in all channels periodically

[royal granite]

20 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

So if you are throwing tons of voidstrike down a hallway at specials and elites, you could easily spam bubble with Curio CDs, talents, etc.

[plucky flax]

I am top 0.5% in all classes (apart from vet)

[echo turtle]

yeah its warpcharges that are bugged

go into the psykanium and you will see

[fluid knot]

Who cares about angry cadian tho?

[ornate hamlet]

What am I looking for?

[echo turtle]

they are bugged with both shield and scriers

[ornate hamlet]

Scriers I know doesn't work correctly.

[plucky flax]

Can't abuse bolter anymore on vet.

[steel flame]

30% toughness Regen has been a must since the games inception. It's just it's been easier to get since they changed crafting

[echo turtle]

if you have 1 charge you have 100% CDR on the shield

its a bug

[royal granite]

i feel like veterans are a little under tuned this patch, but they ironically make for great supports with the stealth skill

[fluid knot]

Whats menna be wrong with Scriers? Ive not had a problem with it so far?

[royal granite]

they can get crazy revive speed with 2 charges of stealth

[woeful cliff]

It wasn't that strong originally. That perk was buffed later in the beta.

[steel flame]

Explain

[ornate hamlet]

I was talking with someone else about the whole bit with warp charges.

[fluid knot]

It makes a lot of people explode but i wouldnt call that a problem

[last sleet]

One run, I think, I'll be a support boi, and keep stuff smited, instead of spamming assails. And I get a veteran that's allergic to taking out snipers. Aaaaah.

[thin finch]

Still going to report this to my local Inquisitor

[ornate hamlet]

And what I meant to say was, it doesn't make sense to have the cooldown start when peril ends.

[royal granite]

i feel like scriers maybe doesn't give enough reward for the amount of risk you take on

[steel flame]

Why not

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah, that i deffo agree with

It should start cooling down as soon as its cast

Like Volley fire used to

[modest solstice]

@last sleet run assail, its a better support skill, if the enemy is dead, it cant deal damage

[ornate hamlet]

It punishes your gameplay which is centered around getting headshots for CDR and whatnot. So in spite of all the work you did while you had it active, you don't get to benefit from the increased dmg to heads while using the ability.

[royal granite]

assail doesn't stun crushers

[steel flame]

Well considering you can keep it going the entirety of it's cool down duration........it has to start at the end.....

[ornate hamlet]

So you can only earn your CD when scriers isn't active. Can be tricky to get the buff passivley.

[fluid knot]

You cannot

[ornate hamlet]

Just saying, it feels clonky.

[echo turtle]

warp charges do not reduce scrier cooldown, and give 100% CDR to shield. The skill is really bugged atm

[faint vault]

So, how are people using assail now? Just spam it endlessly or save it for elites etc?

[ornate hamlet]

Can really screw up rotation.

[ornate hamlet]

Im gonna test what you said, because I seriously doubt

[echo turtle]

get the gaurenteed crit and toss a few out

[echo turtle]

go nuts

its repeatable and others in chat have verified it

[last sleet]

Best defense is more dakka.

[echo turtle]

I tested with 6 charges, you pop sphere shield and its off cooldown instantly

[fluid knot]

You can get 4 quell cycles with Scriers before all you're doing is quelling and that is just not viable for a gunpsyker to be doing, more time quelling = less time shooting

[steel flame]

In a horde you can keep scrier going with a transfer peril void staff for almost 2 minutes........

[modest solstice]

assail is spam until you see a bigger enemy, use void (i like electric more IMO) on those bigger enemies

[fluid knot]

That is one instance, for every other build, that is non-viable, particularly those with guns, and i kinda doubt 2 mins

[ornate hamlet]

So what exactly am I testing? Because 100% CDR while you have one charge of .. bubble? Doesn't make sense. However, if you're talking about having a shield with two charges, then if you have 1 charge, then yes. Of course its 100% cdr, that's the point, you have a charge ready.

[echo turtle]

ive already explained it a few times

so, if you wanna go test figure it out

[modest solstice]

dont nerf psyker, they have been the bottom of the food chain since launch, let them have their fun!

[faint vault]

True Aim?

[steel flame]

Also yes warp charges don't affect scrier peril....because you aren't generating that peril the ability it.

[ornate hamlet]

That's really not helpful at all.

[fluid knot]

Zealot was bottom last patch

[ornate hamlet]

I wanted to clarify what you said in your speech because what you said didn't make sense.

[fluid knot]

Psyker has been good for ages, just people have crippling skill issues

[ornate hamlet]

And Im not going to beta test a thing that I've seen to work fine for you.

[spice veldt]

not healthy for something to be overly strong

[faint vault]

Psyker was god tier when they released the Illus and Deimos.

[spice veldt]

we've been through this era with vet already

[modest solstice]

its a pve game, strength doesnt matter

[spice veldt]

sure it does

[fluid knot]

Easy game = boring game, boring game = no players

[modest solstice]

its why borderlands was so great, because you could make OP builds that could 1 shot bosses

[spice veldt]

because it's encroaching "my teammates don't get to play" territory

[faint vault]

Arcotash still going strong, I see! Got any funky builds going?

[steel flame]

Borderlands very much had that issue too

[spice veldt]

not all pve games are the same or intended to be played like that

[fluid knot]

Thats a by product of BL having so much jank that the community has embraced.

Its not by design

[spice veldt]

am sticking to the meta as usual; I'm running Assail + Mk4 duellies

[modest solstice]

jank is the best design!

[fluid knot]

There is just so much of it that the devs couldnt hope to fix it all

[steel flame]

Oh sorry I took norfleet gaige, sorry you don't get to play the game

[fluid knot]

Or just playing any Sal' build

[steel flame]

Pretty much

[modest solstice]

double norfleet gunzerker, or double heralds!

[left turtle]

Can a curio roll with more than 1 wound on it

[faint vault]

The MK4 is meta now? 😮

[steel egret]

No

[steel flame]

It does good work

[faint vault]

Did the nerf the force swords?

[spice veldt]

they buffed the heavies in them and they're better than the other duelling swords

[faint vault]

Cool

[spice veldt]

no changes to the force swords

[steel flame]

The meta question makes me unreasonably angry and wish people wouldnt be so direct looking for shortcuts

[echo turtle]

No, I said that the interaction is bugged and you repeatedly said I was wrong. Then you said you doubted me again and said you were going to go test it yourself. After that you asked me to walk you through how to replicate the bug becuase you don't even understand what you're testing

[faint vault]

Sweet

[echo turtle]

warpcharges give 100% cooldown reduction to shields, its a bug. simple as

[steel flame]

Enemy Healthpools did get buffed so it's not gonna 1shot as much as it used too

[fluid knot]

Its alright mate, i dont much like it neither, particularly when people say XYZ is crap when compared to an obviously broken meta

[faint vault]

Ah! That's what I'm seeing.

[spice veldt]

here's a comparison between the deimos h2 and mk4 duelling heavies #psyker-class message

[faint vault]

Very helpful, thanks!

[spice veldt]

and here's the mk4 compared to the other duelling swords #psyker-class message

[steel egret]

This is with 2 shield add-on for shield or even with sphere one?

[ornate hamlet]

I'm asking what any standard tester would ask. They want explicit instructions on how to replicate the bug. If you can't articulate that because you don't know how, then you're making a subjective observation.

[echo turtle]

Sphere

Hopefully it gets hot fixed by right now warp charges with shield is nuts

Also hopefully the charge scriers interaction gets a hot fix, as I was trying to make a scriers build but I need the CDR from charges and ATM the don't apply

[viscid matrix]

when you have 1 warp charge, dome shield gets 100% cooldown reduction, its very easy to have 5 or more domes down at once

[viscid matrix]

scriers doesnt go on cooldown when you use it, so the cooldown isnt applied
it may never be changed

[steel egret]

Yeah that sounds pretty broken, I so far had not run game with Warp charges + Dome since I was testing the other new additions.

[viscid matrix]

its the best for non smite builds

if running smite you want empower to get 100% peril reduction and free channel to lock down everything

[steel flame]

That's not a bug with scriers and WC. WC peril reduction only applies to peril YOU generate. Scrier peril is generated by the ult itself and thus isn't reduced

[ornate hamlet]

Also, I've been testing since we spoke about this, I have consistently found that due to how you kill Specialists consistently (am doing headshots) not only do you actively get active cooldown, but you're able to dump those warp charges for more cooldown on your next cast. I've noticed that you do get an overlapping CD bubble, but only once was I able to get a third before I ahd to build up my CD again.

[viscid matrix]

gettign 30 stacks with scriers is almost impossible, unless you are using a melee weapon that has a reduced peril on weakspot hit

[ornate hamlet]

With all of the cooldown options that I have, (am running the +4cdr in curios as well, I am not surprised I am getting such efficiency.

[analog solstice]

Which path on this one is usually the best? 🤔

[steel egret]

Yeah I was going to mention I noticed that being a thing recently when people argued if it was intentional.

[plucky token]

Here's my question, we all know the Smite 100% Peril Reduction is a bug, but when they fix it will Smite still be worth using with it or should we switch to Warp Charges for the Peril Reduction?

[viscid matrix]

yes, because its still more than 10 seconds of lockdown

[steel flame]

It's still great when it generates peril

[faint vault]

What does you assail build look like? Warpcharges, shriek and creeping flames?

[ornate hamlet]

Try using a recon lasgun, the single shot variant... like this: you can do it really easily with this and the Mk IV

[spice veldt]

i'm sticking to the right side so far, and I don't have enough points to invest into warp charges 😔

here's my build so far #psyker-class message

[faint vault]

Thanks a bunch 🙂

[spice veldt]

i keep forgetting to paste the message link

[ornate hamlet]

You also need to use Disrupt Destiny and get the the bonus where headshots give you 2 stacks.

[plucky token]

Well my idea is this. Warp Charges give you more Peril Reduction and Damage and can stack up to 6. If you have full stacks of Warp Charges is it more damage than the 30% from the Empowered Psionics?

[spice veldt]

disrupt destiny and scrier's don't interact that way

[viscid matrix]

yeh but getting 30 stacks on scriers isnt consistant when playing with competent allies, getting 25 stacks is no problem during large battles, but chews thru ammo
also until DD marking is fixed we are stuck with only 15 stacks for 30 seconds for it cause getting to 30 stacks is near impossible

[ornate hamlet]

It works insanely well together

[plucky token]

Because once they fix Empowered Psionics all it will do for Smite is give 30% Damage and it chains to enemies faster.

Warp Charges will give Peril Reduction AND Damage letting you chain it for longer

[steel flame]

Maybe I need to complain about not getting 31 stacks of soulblaze more often

[steel flame]

Get 30 stacks is not hard

Destiny stacks on the other hand is a little tougher

[ornate hamlet]

This is true, but the Detiny thing is great because it highlights enemies in blue, making headshots really easy, and are usually done on distant enemies.

[viscid matrix]

gettign 30 stacks for scriers isnt consistant unless you waste ammo into trash hordes

[steel flame]

Well there you go

[spice veldt]

there's a bug where it doesn't make marked enemies glow

[ornate hamlet]

And that's why the single shot lasgun is so great - is because it's so ammo efficient.

[ornate hamlet]

Interesting, I have not experienced this. I've seen them on the other side of walls or floors, but that's because they're within 25m.

[viscid matrix]

its still wasteful, especially when multiple people need ammo

[spice veldt]

i've killed a non-glowing enemy and gotten DD Stacks from them

[viscid matrix]

also marks cycling thru 5 enemies in 3 seconds because reasons

[steel flame]

I use laspistol and Im sitting on 30 stacks every time I use scrier. It's not hard

[spice veldt]

and this has happened consistently

[ornate hamlet]

It's not wasteful when the monstrocities appear and you're chunking it faster than anyone else getting 1100 crit dmg per shot with the rifle.

[plucky token]

I always forget which Lasgun does what with the dumb naming system this game has.

There's the PEW Lasgun

The Pew-Pew-Pew-Pew Lasgun

and the BRRRRRRRRRT Lasgun

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/idz976

[steel flame]

I have a feeling that dd highlights are bugged. They tend to not spawn in horde scenarios even though clearly stacks are being made

[ornate hamlet]

The test was for the bubble shield.

I was not testing the wall shield.

[viscid matrix]

that works in dome as well

[spice veldt]

DD only marks human-sized elites, bruisers, and ranged shooters as far as I can tell

[plucky token]

I can see how someone might think that is bugged

lol

[viscid matrix]

which i think is dumb, is should mark ogryns, dogs and pox bursters too

[weak galleon]

that's what i noticed too

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/ax5vy9

[ornate hamlet]

whats the best dueling sword

[ornate hamlet]

Wow, our warp siphon is so efficient at cdr, that we have this shield with two stacks (which I believe have separate CDs) that one siphon can get us that much reduction? And one siphon affects both?

[spice veldt]

this is without the toughness regen node

[viscid matrix]

4

[spice veldt]

you don't get double shields with the dome

[ornate hamlet]

HOw many times can you cast it back to back?

[viscid matrix]

its bugged, for venting shriek it does what it is supposed to do
for dome its 100% per charge

[viscid matrix]

as long as you have 1 warp charge between each cast, 1 charge is isntant recharge

[spice veldt]

as long as you have at least 1 warp charge, you get an immediate CD

my ult indicator is the blue diamond in the middle of my screen

it goes black and shows a timer whenever it goes onto cooldown, which doesn't happen because the ult comes back immediately

[unique mist]

Is there any point to running voidstrike and brain burst

[viscid matrix]

Void is strongest staff right now, and BB is great for taking out elites and specials

[steel flame]

Think he means together

[ornate hamlet]

So that leaves the issue that without Warp siphon, you only get one dome. So, we can rule out that this isn't an issue of the code thinking that there's two charges.

[rigid blade]

What’s a really good weapon/ability for Monstrosities?

[steel flame]

They overlap pretty hard rn

[unique mist]

Yeah I meant at the same time

what about smite and voidstrike

Feels like you'd be stuck using smite for too long

[rigid blade]

Is it true Surge has really good single target damage? Is it good for monsters?

[primal radish]

does surge staff not stop mutants anymore or was i getting no reg?

[unique mist]

E.g. using assail and voidstrike, you can kill a horde using assail and pull out your staff when a special appears
But using smite and voidstrike, you're smiting a horde but if you see a special appear you can't do much (I think) because you gotta keep holding down smite, and the horde you're smiting isn't dying all at once anytime soon, and if you pull out your staff all the enemies you were smiting will overwhelm you before you can deal with the special

But idk I haven't used smite much at all

like one mission then decided I didn't like it

[rugged fiber]

Smite really doesn't do much damage

[warped perch]

Assail makes me want to marry psyker so much and live with it forever and ever owo

[rugged fiber]

Yeah but it makes the game not challenging

[spice veldt]

staniel

[warped perch]

It's hella fun and you still gotta manage a bunch of resources

[warped perch]

Hi arco owo notices you

[rugged fiber]

You have a horde ? : Assail
You have an elite ? : Assail
Armoured enely ? : Ok I'll take my voidstrike out

[spice veldt]

hi

[rigid blade]

Psyker doesn’t have any good boss options does he?

[steel flame]

Not great vs monsters, but fantastic vs elites, specials and ogryns

[warped perch]

What's poppin

[steel flame]

The m1 on surge is also amazing if you know how to quell cancel

[rugged fiber]

That's what it feels like, from what I saw the least underwhelming one is voidstrike

[rigid blade]

What’s that?

[viscid matrix]

it staggers 2 targets

[viscid matrix]

its best against anything with armour

[rugged fiber]

I prefered the old surge, the new one feels like it doesn't do much (personal opinion)

[feral verge]

new surge is way better

if you want old surge, use the smite ability

[viscid matrix]

are you high? we lost 6 target stunlock that did midling damage, and now we have 2 target stagger with a lot more damage

[feral verge]

smite ability is also way better than old surge

[steel flame]

Pressing r after every cast cancels the cast animation letting you immediately shoot again. You can shoot the primary like a machine gun with this method. Surge has a 54% crit rate with perks and the crits do 500+ damage

[feral verge]

old surge was dogshit

[rigid blade]

Hot damn whats a good build for it?

[viscid matrix]

old surge was good at its job, that smite now does
CC muties, crushers, and maulers

[rugged fiber]

Yeah when you do maelstrom or shock troop gauntlet it's really good to have only 2 target when there are 6ragers on your face

[rigid blade]

That’d be awesome thanks.

[viscid matrix]

its job is not to CC targets anymore, its to take out priority targets at mid and close range
if you are getting swarmed by ragers, then its a skill issue

[steel flame]

I'm not at home but I can dm mine to you later

[steel flame]

👍

[robust drift]

Is the tooltip of Psykinetic's Aura accurate wrt giving allies CDR still?

[rugged fiber]

Meh assail just does Surge staff but better

[viscid matrix]

ive heard about it not working for other squad members in some cases, and working in other cases
needs more testing

[viscid matrix]

Surge can 3 shot crushers and 2 shot all other elites some of them are 1 shot
assail cant harm crushers at all

[rugged fiber]

Take my voidstrike out

x)

or my force sword

[viscid matrix]

Void is overtuned, everyone already knows this
surge is a decent staff, it does what its supposed to do pretty dam well

Yay, time to swap this to Flak and crit

[restive willow]

Is there any use for the purgutus staff?

[viscid matrix]

its fun for a horde clear psyker build

[unique mist]

Probably good for brain burst

[fluid knot]

Honestly it wasnt even very good at that

It could also only deal meaningful damage to 20% of enemies

Was proper ass before

[rugged fiber]

Purgatus in high intensity is only good against hordes + for stun you roll a dice so it's not reliable

[viscid matrix]

agreed

[restive willow]

What staff is good with the telekine barrier?

and assail

[viscid matrix]

its great to stagger a tonne of enemies so the Ogryn can shred the fuck out of everything you stagger
allthough they add on the stagger too

[rugged fiber]

any but purgatus

[rugged fiber]

there are so many more versatile options other than purgatus with psyker purgatus is just not up there

[viscid matrix]

Purga is the worst staff, and its still viable in all content

[rugged fiber]

Some guns are better than purgatus so at this point can it really be called viable

[viscid matrix]

you can do all content with a soulburn build
its viable

[viscid matrix]

you are mixing up viable with BIS

[rugged fiber]

Well when you compare to every other options and other classes before & after patch purgatus is not made for maelstrom nor shock troop gauntlet

especially with the dice roll for stun

[feral verge]

maelstrom armor only run with purga

melee only, i mean

[viscid matrix]

i disagree with you

[feral verge]

purga/soulblaze did gfreat

[ornate hamlet]

Tested Warp Siphon on Vent Shriek. 1 Stack of warp siphon gave mea 23 second cd with all other perks, talents, etc. When I had 4 stacks, It was 17 seconds, when I use 6... it had 13 seconds. The base CD of the shriek is 30 seconds. Clearly, in this instance, it's working as intended. The CDR of scriers gaze works as written - only when peril reaches 100% - then the CD starts. With and without warp siphon, does not change the cooldown of 25 seconds.

So, if warp siphon works on one ult at least one, it isn't warp siphon that's bugged, it's the ability that it's interacting with. The ability is bugged, not warp siphon itself.

4 stacks* it was 17

[viscid matrix]

its warp siphon thats bugged in conjunction with the abilities
Shield gets 100% cooldown instead of 7.5%
Scriers gets nothing because it doesnt go on cooldown until after it reaches 100% peril

[cold oasis]

It works exactly the same

[ornate hamlet]

I also believe that the CDR bonus that you get is not multiplicative of the newer CD, but additive of the base cd.

[rugged fiber]

I played purgatus only from like lvl25 to lvl80, when I tried other things the impact was just there no more randomness of ragers getting to you because you rolled poorly for stun

[ornate hamlet]

Scriers gets nothing regardless of how many warp siphons it has.

[viscid matrix]

because it doesnt go on cooldown instantly like the other 2

[cold oasis]

Purgatus is a trash weapon, it has no range, no damage, no nothing

[ornate hamlet]

The cooldown is frozen at 25s until the peril goes to 100.

[cold oasis]

Cool, you can kill bosses and hordes with it.

[ornate hamlet]

Its the same 25second cd no matter how many warp siphon you have.

[rugged fiber]

Oh and I forgot when you play purgatus, YOU SEE NOTHING

[feral verge]

@cold oasis

damage

[viscid matrix]

skill issue

[feral verge]

on maelstrom melee only

you cant just bring purga

you have to spec into all damage feats

[rugged fiber]

Lmao you say skill issue when 90% of your screen are flames

[cold oasis]

so? What i was saying? You can kill hordes with it? Cool man?

[feral verge]

look at my elite kills

[viscid matrix]

dont get me wrong, its not the best choice you can make, but its still viable in all content

[feral verge]

build

[ornate hamlet]

So, this is a bug on the interactions of the abilities, as it works as intended for vent scream. The function of the warp siphon does not change for other programs its still programmed to do a thing. Because of the nature of Scrier's gaze, the language is not triggering for any stack of warp siphon at all.

[feral verge]

i only play at high peril

[narrow crane]

Purgatus having flaws doesn't make it trash, it's a fine weapon

[cold oasis]

Oh, you can use whatever you want, i really do not care about it

But you can't go around telling newbies "oh the purgatus it's a great staff"

[spice veldt]

it is pretty gr8

[rugged fiber]

has assails in it and says purgatus did most damage

[viscid matrix]

yep

[narrow crane]

I mean I can tell newbies whatever I want

[cold oasis]

FUCKING ASSAIL

[feral verge]

i barely use assail

[cold oasis]

AND YOU GO FOR ELITE KILLS

[feral verge]

sincerely, i barely use it

[viscid matrix]

we are not saying its a great staff, i said ealier its the worst staff
its still viable in all content

[spice veldt]

i don't think it's the worst either

[left turtle]

Brain Rupture with Kinetic resonance can shred apart a monster

[cold oasis]

Oh it's by far the worst

[feral verge]

im not even specced into assail buffs

[left turtle]

as long as your team makes some space for you

[spice veldt]

not the worst nor by far

[viscid matrix]

Surge and trauma are tied for 2nd/3rd and Void is best
of the 4 its the worst
its still viable in all content

[zinc phoenix]

So I’ve spent some time finally learning trauma staff and I actually kinda like it

[feral verge]

i barely use assail

[ornate hamlet]

based.

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma is great!

[zinc phoenix]

But am I missing something? I thought trauma was supposed to stagger muties

[spice veldt]

no

[viscid matrix]

secondary, drop it on them, and hit them with the middle of the blast
its not easy to do at all

[ornate hamlet]

not the chargers. It staggers the ogryns.

[left turtle]

Purgatus staff is great and i will die on this hill

[cold oasis]

Trauma is good, you just need to understand how to use it

[zinc phoenix]

I like it a lot

[narrow crane]

I gotta be honest with yall I was in here talking mad shit about Trauma like two days ago but I said I was gonna use it seriously for two days and I think it's my favorite staff by far. @near wyvern I award you a delta my friend

[valid spire]

just trying out the new patch, love smite, being able to just stop an entire horde dead, including shit like hounds is amazing

[cold oasis]

And need a god roll for Trauma too

since you need everything :v

[zinc phoenix]

So I’ma repeat, can trauma stagger muties specifically

[spice veldt]

no

[zinc phoenix]

That’s what I’ve seen but I’ve read on here it could in the past

[feral verge]

wat

[spice veldt]

i've played since january

[feral verge]

it never could

[spice veldt]

you could never stagger mutants

[feral verge]

trauma could never ever stun muties ever

[narrow crane]

HOWEVER: I still think it could be less janky for sure

[spice veldt]

you're confusing it with the surge

[feral verge]

only surge staff could do that

[rugged fiber]

only surge stun muties

[azure karma]

Surge staff is good?

[rugged fiber]

and stun consistently

[thorn cedar]

trauma used to stagger space marines but they also took those out of the game

[narrow crane]

hot take you don't need to stun muties they're easy as shit to deal with

[left turtle]

It Compliments being built around BB alot. you can headpop anything chunky, and just roast the horde

[ornate hamlet]

Dump stat is quell speed if you get increased peril quelling

[zinc phoenix]

You do when there’s six of them

[narrow crane]

nah I let my dueling sword handle it

[cerulean pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309164964579377153/1160405784094580786/image.png?ex=65348b1a&is=6522161a&hm=b85ac199d065bd5ff4317762befd33a0afac24fd769ee1e31906e113a33aeeb5& ah. yes. the strongest psychic power "immersion break"

[valid spire]

untranslated lingua technis

[royal falcon]

counterpoint: URGH UGH URGH GR UGH GR UH GRUH

[narrow crane]

I'm poking muties left and right like im moonwalking

[rugged fiber]

Well for me both Assail and voidstrike needs nerf

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I’m bb/shriek/warp charge trauma rn

[narrow crane]

[left turtle]

im BB/Bubble/Empowered Psionics

with Dueling sword/Purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

Lightning, empowered psionics

[zinc phoenix]

I think ima swap bb for smite. BB is super useful but I need that massive cc

[ornate hamlet]

It's so damn good

[narrow crane]

I'm all in on my dueling swords, duely heads rise up

[royal falcon]

if you can't solo a mission using only peril explosions are you really a psyker main

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d give us a pistol and saber loadout where your right and left are stab and block and the alt is a pistol shot

[left turtle]

i realized why i like the dueling sword so much

[narrow crane]

like rapier

[left turtle]

i was a witch hunter main in vermintide

[zinc phoenix]

I was a barbecue babe

[cold oasis]

btw, does Inner Tranquillity works for Scrier Gaze? Pretty sure no, but i can't be arsed to test it :v

[zinc phoenix]

Roastin and toastin

[valid spire]

minigun bardin was my go to

[cedar light]

Wait gonna sound dumb, but how tdo you get that to pop up

[left turtle]

i really liked Engineer but he was so reliant on a good team to make space for you

[narrow crane]

[cold oasis]

mod

[left turtle]

i only broke him out when i was running with a pre-made with my buddies

[cedar light]

ah

[valid spire]

[cedar light]

Clientside only?

[cold oasis]

80km of infinite dodge with good combo and good damage?

[spice veldt]

finite dodges

[left turtle]

cause it functions exactly like the weapon i used for like, 80% of my vermintide career

[rich pike]

any tips for the "keep your distance" penance?

[cold oasis]

git good?

[rich pike]

fair fair

anything else?

[narrow crane]

Engi mains don't die instantly to an SV overhead after dumping their ult into a horde of slave rats challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

[cold oasis]

ahaha, but it's much easier than it sounds

there are very few elites

[valid spire]

thats what the flamethrower was for

[cold oasis]

at worst, just use smite+EP

[left turtle]

tf

i have keep your distance done. lol

[cold oasis]

and bug your way to a win

[rich pike]

thanks bro

[valid spire]

i made my own space lol

[left turtle]

ok yeah, the fact that its only melee elites, thats a much easier penance

[spice veldt]

ragers are the primary elites to worry about

[steel flame]

No. Scrier peril works for quell peril tough Regen but not peril generation regen

[left turtle]

id recommend running BB, you kind of naturally keep your distance

[rich pike]

BB?

[left turtle]

brain burst

[fluid knot]

Parries Rager an laughs in Zealot

[rich pike]

gotcha

[left turtle]

i usually stay behind and brainburst any elites i see

i kind of just naturally got the penance done

[zinc phoenix]

I did all the penances and forgot them

[cold oasis]

Yeah just tested it out of curiosity

[zinc phoenix]

Fully paid up psyker

[left turtle]

ima need to get a group together eventually to get malleus done

[zinc phoenix]

The outfit is nice

Also the bb one is super easy rn so

[left turtle]

its more of just something to aim for

my psyker drip is already peak

[zinc phoenix]

Play on Damnation, take shield with the double charge perk, take the bb speed up on blitz perk, then spank shotty mobs with bb

[steel flame]

Yeah scrier peril is it's own thing and isn't affected by anything that reduces peril generation or things that ask for peril generation

[left turtle]

i run it with the bubble/toughness regen for self/allies

[idle bay]

Yay! Central heating is online...

[cold oasis]

Wait, why the fuck am i using HP curios

The fuck

[idle bay]

There is a black leather jacker that good with that hat

[zinc phoenix]

Like if you’re a psyker trying to get the “pop four mobs fast with bb” cheevo, I’d do it before the next patch cuz it is mad easy rn

[zinc phoenix]

I am too from back when it was the good idea

[left turtle]

Pick n mix?

[cold oasis]

Yeah, i just realized it now xd

[zinc phoenix]

Thinking about switching to toughness or something

[viscid matrix]

did yall know that Assail can actually crit against a crusher and do like 800 damage

[steel flame]

Do 3 17% toughness with 30% toughness regen

[left turtle]

i got pick n mix done accidently as well lol. thanks to facing down like 8 ragers at once, had a OGryn buddy with a shield just bracing and kept popping away

[idle bay]

Yes. But it's unreliable to rely on

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah toughness stacking right now is 🤯

[feral verge]

(it's always been that way)

[idle bay]

I got mine randomly as well - i was in team that lacked ranged damage and there were 2 packs of gunners like 200m away and just poped thier haeds randomly

[cold oasis]

Did they change Thoughness regen?

[viscid matrix]

then there is me, stacking HP and touhghness regen on curios sitting only 50 toughness less than yall

[cold oasis]

Because all it used to do is simply increase the regen of the passive toughness you get in coherency

and it was utterly fucking garbage

[winged violet]

is there any advice for completing warp battery?

[steel flame]

It's still the same and still great

[cold oasis]

???????????????

[viscid matrix]

stacking toughnes wont help when you take a hit

[cold oasis]

We have literally thoughness on peril generation and removal

[plucky token]

immaculate drip.

Gonna have to cop this look

[analog agate]

Just went into a game with assail. Immediately got called names and then the guy left. People are starting to get toxic it seems

[frank moat]

Oh man, hadn’t even considered how ass the Warp Battery penance is now that Quicken is mandatory

[winged violet]

i have managed 144 sec so far for warp battery

[left turtle]

the head and chest are paid cosmetics, just a warning.

[plucky token]

I got yelled at for taking Smite. "Dude, you should be using the dagger one bro..."

[idle bay]

Whole point -is not to take hits 🙂

[viscid matrix]

tbh both of those blitz invalidate so much of the enemies

[viscid matrix]

what is your toughness at?

[idle bay]

Used to be 105 and it was enough ( +3 stamina and 2 health curios).

[left turtle]

idc if you run meta, but if you yell at others for not being a meta-slave. i will immedietely make fun of you

[spice veldt]

me n my 200 toughness

[bleak tulip]

🤝

[plucky token]

Swiping Intensifies

[unreal tapir]

are you allowed to put like healthbars and stuff in the normal game? weird that its only in the testing area

[left turtle]

People will always be Toxic if you arent following the meta Verbatim.

[ornate hamlet]

How did red arrow get a higher team score than green arrow, do enemies staggered way so heavily as for 10 points? I would think a knockdown would be worse than 350 staggers which are stupid easy.

[analog agate]

I was using the most meta build lmao

[idle bay]

Currently using stamina + toughness + health but thinking on going back to stamina + x2 health because of karking snipers

[ornate hamlet]

Health station health with higher percentage would tell me that you're using it most efficiently if your percentage is higher.

[spice veldt]

the healthbar mod has been allowed so far since mods were implemented (i think January) so it's fine

[left turtle]

It's the Death korp Chest, and Trader hat. the legs are in game from the penance "keep away" or whatever the name is

[viscid matrix]

im only 25% health and toughness regen with this

[unreal tapir]

do you need a seperate program for that or is it in game?

[left turtle]

ah well just your natural dumbass hater

[viscid matrix]

mods

[cold oasis]

I so wish they would allow mods on Steam like on Vermintide 2

[plucky token]

nice. thanks.

[spice veldt]

you'll need to install a few other things

[cold oasis]

I really can't stand nexusmod

[unreal tapir]

can i just find it on nexus mods?

[spice veldt]

here's a text/gif guide for installing mods https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

[unreal tapir]

ty

[spice veldt]

people have made some video guides if you're into those

[ornate hamlet]

I go full toughness in mycurios

[idle bay]

~ 170 toughness Psyker?

[viscid matrix]

its called scoreboard

[ornate hamlet]

I think so.

[ornate hamlet]

Whats great is that we generatetoughness with almost everything we do.

[unreal tapir]

glad to see more games are allowing cosmetic mods rather than punishing for it and taking 3 years to put it in themselves

[rigid blade]

What’s the dump stat for Surge?

[idle bay]

Yes we do. But i forcing myself to play better, leaving very little window for failure so each and every mistake really hurts

[feral verge]

i have 175 toughness, 185 hp

[spice veldt]

stay bad

[cold oasis]

Either quell speed or warp resistance

[ornate hamlet]

Something something grimdark, something, something, living the dream... enjoy the pain.

[rigid blade]

Aight.

[last sleet]

Do blessings rank up if I increase the rarity of an item?

[cold oasis]

no

[idle bay]

And i seeing myself actually getting gud 🙂 It's very staisfactory

[last sleet]

Shit.

[ornate hamlet]

Right? I love the single shot lasgun, whats your fave?

[feral verge]

suffer

[echo turtle]

You're basically an ogryb

[tidal elm]

which one from sir milk? or neither

[bleak tulip]

surge

[echo turtle]

I did a build with all toughness curios and got health and T on all of them too. Just shy of 200 health 200 toughness, Plus stacking all the toughness DR I can get

[ornate hamlet]

Wanna have fun? Get the deimos blade with slaughterer and shred. Never block during scriers, just go full fury.

[idle bay]

I'm building around - killing as many things as possible as fast as possible. So yeah.. using dirtiest weapons and passives. Void and Assail and Illsi. Boring meta things. Not the FUN things like laspistol... sigh

[bleak tulip]

if nothing else just to puill surge out of it

[tidal elm]

gotcha thanks

[idle bay]

Used to love BM Antax V

[echo turtle]

@spice veldt what do you think of that approach? Stacking toughness and the toughness damage resist?

The context is I am doing that with the sphere shield

[ornate hamlet]

also to be a walking tank, hold quell peril while in scriers.

[narrow crane]

right one

[ornate hamlet]

you can just constantly recover toughness

[bleak tulip]

buy warp flury 4 as well to pull it

[ornate hamlet]

good retreat option

[idle bay]

Also when i hae this thing - it's impossible not to use it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1159042421557055498/image.png?ex=652f955f&is=651d205f&hm=57572bb034a35579b3bb9666fd65c53f487d54ec1dfb9e3aa03af39c6b37c03b&

[feral verge]

charge rate sad

[idle bay]

Like Big E himself made it

[idle bay]

It's managable

[feral verge]

my void

[spice veldt]

seems fine since that's roughly what I do

[echo turtle]

Do you feel it holds up to the punishment?

[glass plume]

Nice, here's my juicy boi quite similar to yours!

[echo turtle]

And do you think tossing some gunner or sniper rez is worth it or not so much at this point

[glass plume]

Got lucky and made it on my first voidstrike after I hit 30

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn is like 200/550 😂

[spice veldt]

i've been rumbled and tumbled when i accidentally stepped into fire and lost 120 hp from a single bruiser hit

[viscid matrix]

yall should swap Flurry for Surge on those Void staves

[glass plume]

Then I'd have to swap my whole spec to crit

[viscid matrix]

1 shoting a Crusher on a crit is worth it

[glass plume]

I can 2-shot crushers without a crit

[spice veldt]

gunner/sniper res seem like decent picks; I wouldn't take more than 1x gunner res if you have something you like
I don't really get hit by snipers too much nowadays (though I got sniped by a silent shot yesterday)

[idle bay]

I never used reistances curios... if i die i die 🙂 Just Toughness regen , combat Ability regen and Corruption resist

[spice veldt]

i take 1x gunner res just cuz

[glass plume]

warp siphon with 6 charges is stronk

[ornate hamlet]

I got one of those

Though its more fun to use a stubber 😉

Ain't as long as a staff... but boy oh boy... is it thicker...

[idle bay]

Free 24% damage that easy to maintain in target rich enviroment 🙂

[idle bay]

Less clicking involved 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

a greater margin of error for skill

[idle bay]

But lower rate of fire on Stubber than you can get on Void 😉

[echo turtle]

Yeah I was leaning 1 gunner and 2x CDR or 1 gunner and 1 sniper and 1 whatever else

[glass plume]

Yeah man on Damnation it's basically at a full 6 stacks for like 95% of the mission

[echo turtle]

Warp charges feel good yeah I like them a lot

[echo turtle]

Going sphere shield with charges and leaning into the Regen/Damage resist with cool down reduction for shield uptime feels like it could really really good

[glass plume]

I was messing with Empowered psionics+bio-lodestone for extra assails but the free permanent 24% damage and -32% peril gen on warp siphon is just batshit insane

[last sleet]

Bit annoying that there's 200 head pop achievements, considering I don't use head pop at all any more.

[glass plume]

with -8% peril on headshot I can literally never stop firing my voidstaff

[echo turtle]

I recall you always favoured toughness and damage resist so I thought I would see how you feel @spice veldt how that's working now

[feral pasture]

Good afternoon. Tell me now is it really possible to get the achievement "Malleus Monstrum"?

[left turtle]

you need to go into a private game with a friend

[idle bay]

I go for essense harvest - i learned Peril build up tempo to compensate for lack of that resistance.

[left turtle]

preferably an Ogryn friend with a shield. find a demonhost. let the ogryn piss it off and then brace his shield. Then you just BB it till its dead

[idle bay]

Just need to be less enthusiastic with staff and assail

[near wyvern]

[feral pasture]

Thank you

[fresh reef]

is Spireside 13 generally considered a hard map?

[narrow crane]

🤝

[fresh reef]

have not had a game yet where randoms could make it to the first medicae

[narrow crane]

pugs are brutal rn

[idle bay]

They are learning - give them time 🙂

[slim lily]

Purge staff warp flurry or terrifying barrage?

[glass plume]

Fair enough! Doesn't that feel redundant when you're generating 15% toughness on warp kill, 5% per 10% quelled and 2.5% per peril gained, plus passive regen anyway (especially with %regen speed if you have it on trinkets). Then again, that's if you even have those talents in your build!

[narrow crane]

They are! But I wish they would listen when I hop on the mic and yell "PLEASE LVL 21 VETERAN DONT SHOOT THE WHISPERING DEMON"

[golden frigate]

I felt that way for the first two days, rn I think I have a higher win rate

[fresh reef]

terrifying barrage is terrible on purg and I have no idea why anyone ever thought it was good

[feral verge]

never ever terrifying barrage

terrifying barrage is useless

literally useless

[idle bay]

Maximum toughness overflow 🙂

[wide quest]

Imagine that happening twice and you some how barely scrape by

[feral verge]

staves already supress

[left turtle]

i think its one of those things that on paper it sounds good, but in execution, isnt.

[lethal folio]

There's a usecase for surge TB now.

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage is like not having a blessing at all

[slim lily]

Oh rly I thought it’s useful when suppressing bunch horde or is it just burn that’s has the cc

[left turtle]

i am struggling to figure out what blessing to run on the purgatus staff

[fresh reef]

I suppose, Most people don't realize that purg already is good at suppression

[left turtle]

the burn already kind of does it

[lethal folio]

run'n'gun and warp nexus.

[feral verge]

not useful at all. useless. does nothing extra

[slim lily]

I see it

[feral verge]

all stave attacks supress already

whether its flame or not

[narrow crane]

I'm not mad at newbies at all, I think it's great consoles finally have the game. But, I wish Fatshark gave me more than 3 plasteel for getting 3/4 a way through Damnation+

[slim lily]

So basically I have been running one blessing

[idle bay]

Purgatus staff supress enemies BEHIND you 🙂

[slim lily]

All along

[spice veldt]

it's feeling good so far, though my primary use case for toughness stacking is now gone
I stacked toughness primarily because of ranged patrols, but now that Assail is a thing, I don't have a reason besides my personal preference for toughness to stack it

[slim lily]

XD

[feral verge]

yes

[slim lily]

Crit rate flak or crit rate maniac

[glass plume]

Has anyone else noticed a big increase in scab machinegunners or is it just me. Tho I have been away a while before patch13

[slim lily]

Or crit dmg?

[glass plume]

It feels like every other pack as 1-2 machinegunners now

[left turtle]

more brains to give anuerysm, im good

[plucky flax]

Patch 1.2 increases a lot of elites spawn.

[narrow crane]

I feel like I'm getting ~15 per room minimum lmao

[plucky flax]

Especially in auric maelstrom. It's elites city.

[idle bay]

More elites - more toughness regen and ability cooldowns!

[echo turtle]

There is also lots of + toughness in the skill trees, does that get applied after the curio %

[plucky flax]

Melee only condition is the hardest modifier now. It's just waves upon waves of crushers and bulwarks.

[spice veldt]

ye, it seems

[narrow crane]

This is what made me a Trauma staff believer

[spice veldt]

I don't think the +health node does though because it's a percentage

[idle bay]

Funniest as well for Psykers with Void - they turn it around on it's head

[plucky flax]

Aye trauma is op against flak and carapace.

So is voidstrike atm.

1 shot crusher.

[left turtle]

BB go brr

[feral pasture]

and in which mission is it better to look for a monster?
for achievement

[left turtle]

iunno the name, but theres that mission where you have to turn off all the AA guns in the end

[raw tangle]

Smite just stopping entire hordes like ther in a drive thru lol

[left turtle]

it guaruntees a monster spawn at the end

[spice veldt]

consignment yard?

[left turtle]

yeah that one

you also get a ton of monster spawns on heresy in general, at least i have been lately

[random snow]

any suggestions for a psyker smite build

[lethal folio]

Assassinations count as monstrosities.

[narrow crane]

if u run smite you need damage, simple as

deimos sword + Voidstrike, Trauma Staff, Surge etc. revolver is also great

dueling sword, illisi, chainsword

[plucky token]

Yep. The Soul Flame perks with Soulflame Venting Shriek also helps alot.

[narrow crane]

Yeah I don't run anything except Venting Shriek tbh

Scrier's gaze feels super tedious to me

[left turtle]

i like it but the bubble comes in clutch so often

[plucky token]

I personally like the bubble shield just because I want to full support. But honestly it's a toss up.

[narrow crane]

Shields are VERY good imho, but I like the vent a lot

[plucky token]

Scrier's is def made for Gun Wizard builds.

[austere burrow]

You should abuse bubble glitch while you can imo

It's so funny

[echo turtle]

It's very good melee too actually

[narrow crane]

Yeah Im only running scriers on my revolver build but staves are my thing rn

[zinc phoenix]

Hittin that bubble bong with the warp charges for maximum humor

[echo turtle]

I was running it with purge and a shred weapon

Only problem is the interaction with warp charges is bugged and you do not get the cool down reduction which limits the buff uptime

[austere burrow]

Casually have 5 bubbles dropped at the same time

[echo turtle]

It would also be solid with an infernus recon las to melt bosses

[plucky token]

If I wanted to use a gun I would have played Vet. I WANT TO BE A WIZARD! ZAP!

[left turtle]

honestly hate playing with an assail psyker, they trivialize the game so much

[terse saffron]

how do i improve this vs?

[plucky token]

Yeah, I tried running assail a few times with friends but they mentioned how boring it felt to play with. Ever since I switched to Support Smite build everyone seems to be having alot more fun. I stunlock and they have fun putting them down.,

[narrow crane]

you want Surge blessing

You want Surge Blessing (IV) and Warp Nexus (IV): Increased crit chance, scales with Peril, and Surge makes it so that crit shots are two hits

[left turtle]

an assail psyker just chops off a huge chunk of diffuclty. i dunno why how its fun for anyone involved.

[austere burrow]

You can't really do anything with that staff imo

[spice oar]

That's really good tbh, not "meta" but it'll kill all the same

[austere burrow]

Already locked in

[terse saffron]

theres also this one but its kinda dogshit

too much peril

[austere burrow]

Shame about the rolls

[ornate hamlet]

How well does this interact with scriers gaze?

[narrow crane]

This is technically a fine staff, but you really want Damage and Blast Radius to be as close to 80 as possible. Warp Res and Quell Speed aren't all that important, and charge speed is useless after 60

[austere burrow]

Those perks are great lol

Charge is useless after 60?

Why?

[narrow crane]

Sacrifice it for Surge blessing

keep rolling for new Voidstrike

[narrow crane]

diminishing returns

[terse saffron]

im running the left tree not the scrier's gaze

[narrow crane]

60 - 80 is like, .6 seconds off charge time

• quell cancelling

[raw token]

.6 is a ton

[narrow crane]

In practice, it is not

Point being, if you get a perfect voidstrike with high stats all over the place? great. but it is absolutely not a priority stat

[raw token]

well i have 80/80/80/80/58 where 58 is the charge speed

and i can definitely feel the charge speed

[austere burrow]

If anything, blast radius feels like more of a dump stat to me

[viscid matrix]

as someone who edges 100% peril all the time, i dont care how slow it is, the animation to start quell is the part i care about 😄
i only tap quell to drop down to 85% or so to go again

[raw token]

thats what i feel like

[austere burrow]

Mine isn't very high and it's still easy enough to line up hits

[terse saffron]

blast radius affects projectile hitbox?

[narrow crane]

Actually, I'm wrong, it's not even close to .6

[viscid matrix]

only how big the explosion is when you hit the target

[narrow crane]

it's way less than that

[terse saffron]

then thats kinda useless

[austere burrow]

Oh it doesn't even affect the projectile hitbox lol

[narrow crane]

The charge rate for Voidstrike has a range of 1.9 - 1.6

[unreal tapir]

where can you actually push 7 trash mobs off the edge for the penance? multiple times ive stood them on the edge and they dont even stumble off

[viscid matrix]

inspect your staves, mouse over the modifiers, it tells you exactly what you get from them

[left turtle]

use venting shriek to do this one easily

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t like using void because one time it crashed my computer tbh

I can feel the lag when it impacts

[unreal tapir]

oh i didnt know venting shriek increases push range, ty

now for the real pain, putting together a party of 3 other players who will let me rip an elite pack apart with bb alone and then kill a monstrosity with only bb

[zinc phoenix]

The scanning mission has a section at the end where the spaceship blows up two bridges. A buttload of mobs spawn after that section right near the edge. You can F them right off it easily

[zinc phoenix]

Use the LFG channel, and you can do the other one in a normal Damnation mission

Blapping shotgun mobs with BB will give you it quick

[brave turret]

i take back everything i said about las pistol yesterday, after actually playing las pistol on tier 5, its kinda shit

[raw token]

you should be able to do the elite one in t5 without a special team, but yh gl with the monstrosity

[zinc phoenix]

SEE

I knew I wasn’t crazy

The fucking thing doesn’t headshot for beans

[brave turret]

the gap between tier 4 and tier 5 in terms of what builds you can run

is kinda large

[narrow crane]

I think it's kinda small now? After the patch???

[brave turret]

eh

definetely feels like in tier 4 you can run way more less optimal builds

[zinc phoenix]

The damage breakpoints are different

[raw token]

if youre level 30 you can do basically anything in t4 and still survive

[kind jay]

isnt auric supposed to be 30 only? is it bugged (like everything else) cause i keep seeing 20s inthere

[zinc phoenix]

And Damnation has a tendency to shit out absolutely massive elite hordes

[zinc phoenix]

Jesus Christ I wish that were true, I’ve seen some real… salt of the earth… in heresy

[narrow crane]

yes

[plucky flax]

If they party up they can do any mission.

[brave turret]

probably just skill issue on my part but i dislike how fragile you are in t5

[zinc phoenix]

Las pistol bad 😡

[brave turret]

a single kick from a flamer

[cold oasis]

How the fuck do i load mods onto Vortex, dear god

[plucky flax]

Power level in auric.

[brave turret]

did half my heatlh in

man did not skip leg day

[zinc phoenix]

His boots are made for walkin and that’s just what they’ll do

One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you

[brave turret]

but in all seriousness it is quite silly

but i guess this mode does need to be challenging for the ultra skilled players

[acoustic osprey]

I run 3 wound psyker to make fun of health users

[brave turret]

i can't seem to use slides right for psyker

[austere burrow]

No mods damnation is still pretty easy for decent players

[zinc phoenix]

Going out with a. Bang is really funny 😂

[ruby karma]

Lads, are their 3 volunteers to help an ogryn with a penance?

[zinc phoenix]

Ask in the LFG channel

[narrow crane]

It's less about "skill issue" at T5+ and more about just minimizing the tiny mistakes they let you get away with at T4 and below. I don't think the jumpt to T5 is all that significant once you start addressing the part of your playstyle that likely hasn't been practiced yet: positioning.

[potent moss]

I see people in T4 who don't know how to melee properly and get away with it.

[final bay]

Is Brainburst a weakspot hit, technically?

[raw token]

because theres no modded difficulties, you can literally just play 3 or 4 zealots and run through the map barely killing anything because of how much movement speed and toughness regen you have

[stable silo]

Whats auric

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah not just ignoring the stuff behind you is a big part of it

[raw tangle]

This vs any good?

[zinc phoenix]

GOOOOOOOOOLD

[spice oar]

I wish but me in bed rn

[narrow crane]

Yes but run n gun has gotta go

[cold oasis]

Dear fuck that thing

[zinc phoenix]

Anytime I see lad I think “do you want to bet on the rattay tourney”

[raw tangle]

I I thought that not got any blessings yet but what should I replace it with?

[tawdry raptor]

Does venting shriek proc quietude? (Toughness on quell)

[zinc phoenix]

Yes and it’s very handy

[stable silo]

Im in the situation where im too scared to ask what auric is i assume a difficulty above damnation

[narrow crane]

youre going to be looking for the T4 Surge blessing, and you wanna run that with Warp Nexus for crit chance that scales with peril

[zinc phoenix]

Damnation with a guaranteed shit kicking

[stable silo]

So i thought f it il ask instead of google to give u lads a laugh

Is it damnation with a mutator ?

[keen harbor]

yup

[raw tangle]

Got it so replace warp flurry with the surge and replace run n gun with nexus? Ty

[narrow crane]

That's what I would do, your modifiers are absolutely fine tbh

[potent moss]

So I can't be the only mad lad who likes bringing a surge/vent build to damnation+/auric runs. Reddit keeps making threads calling surge trash

[spice veldt]

the auric mission board is just a board where all the missions are guaranteed to be hi-int (including the maelstrom)

[stable silo]

I have old bis voidstrike with peril reduction on weak spot and warp flurry urgh gota get surge and peril now i guess

Oh wow that sounds sweet

[raw tangle]

@narrow crane thank you for the tips I appreciate it

[ornate hamlet]

So, I would like to hear how anyone makes the stubber work on scriers gaze due to its supid long reload time

[narrow crane]

this is fine too, I just prefer going for crits cus Surge is nutso

[pale matrix]

Buy or ignore?

[cold oasis]

ignore

shit damage

[ruby karma]

All goods chief :)

[keen harbor]

buy it, keep it for memes when you get bored

[austere burrow]

I was very underwhelmed by surge when I tried it

Felt like void cc'd crushers good enough while doing way more damage

[potent moss]

Surge kills crushers in like 2 charges

[stable silo]

This is my bad boi

[plucky flax]

Because void is op and gonna get nerfed soon

[austere burrow]

Maybe my surge sucks lol

[raw token]

it kills them in one charge

[lucid shadow]

I enjoy trauma. Trauma staff is cool too I guess

[stable silo]

Imo trauma is the funnest staff to use it just feels so good

[austere burrow]

My surge was like 4 shotting crushers

Void one shots crusher if I crit

[potent moss]

Your surge is asleep at the wheel

[raw token]

ohhh sorry thought you meant surge blessing on void

[keen harbor]

Surge (staff), Surge (blessing), Surge (smite)

[fresh reef]

we are going to fucking die

[austere burrow]

Fatshark's fault

Yeah this is my best surge staff

[kindred hill]

Anybody know warp attack can crit? I mean the brain burst / after selecting the upgrade : brain rupture can crit?

[cold oasis]

i think if you get the small 5% crit it can?

[long wharf]

I don't think so

it's a special attack

[woven pumice]

in psykhanium brain burst is yellow number doesn't that mean it's a crit by default

[long wharf]

yellow is weakspot

[woven pumice]

ah

[long wharf]

orange is crit

[vestal fulcrum]

The only Psyker Blitz that can Crit is Assail

[spice veldt]

other way around

[raw token]

other way round

[long wharf]

whoops, other way around, then

[woven pumice]

are weakspot crits displayed as yellow then

[spice veldt]

ye

[woven pumice]

think in vermintide those are red

[azure karma]

wtf is this

[raw tangle]

Is it just me or are heresy teams dumber than lower difficulty teams 😂

[azure karma]

do i need to relog or something

[mellow gorge]

green

[long wharf]

I would call that monkey puke green

[left turtle]

Green

[long wharf]

it's too bright to be baby poop green

[potent moss]

Heresy anything is harder than a regular damnation

[left turtle]

personally the dumbest, bottom of the barrel scum exist in malice

they without fail will always trigger the demonhost

just..ignore medicae or some reason

[long wharf]

alright Psykers, we all know we know more than the other classes

how to make this Eviscerator better for my zealot?

[left turtle]

get Savage sweep

[restive willow]

Do blessings only work while the weapon is held?

[lethal folio]

In almost all cases yes, the few it doesn't is a bug.

[left turtle]

im also not much a fan of bleed to be honest, though thats personal preference

[fast timber]

Could be better but it certainly could be worse 😄

[left turtle]

also someone else can answer this that might know better, but i dont think the eviserator is great at hitting weakspots?

[still hearth]

It's the same as other weapons

[keen harbor]

It has side to side sweeps, so aim higher?

[still hearth]

I don't think it has great weakspot multiplier anyway so its kind of a waste to try hard for it

[keen harbor]

yeah, it doesn't do great damage, even with head hits

[left turtle]

i just dont know its interaction cause when you rev it, it kind of drags

didnt know if that affected it being a weakspot hit at all

[potent moss]

Is it a weak spot hit when your chainsaw is now in the middle of their guts

[keen harbor]

I don't think it is

unless it's a mutie, then maybe?

[potent moss]

I was mostly kidding

[left turtle]

yeah thats my point cause you can land the hit on the head, but during the chainsaw chewing them it can move

i also wonder how effective getting carapace damage on it would be. cause it already mulches anything unarmored

getting bonus armored damage might help boost its effectiveness accross the board

[potent moss]

It's not going to one shot a crusher by default