psyker-class

[spice veldt]

cleave damage is actually unimportant on the duelling swords if you're using for single-target

since Cleave Damage is bugged to not affect flak at all, so it only affects unarmoured/infested

[viscid matrix]

its basicly like mobility

[zinc phoenix]

> plays Damnation
> knows shit about game

🤣

Me irl

[viscid matrix]

dodge stats

[zinc phoenix]

Ah shit I already get yeeted into abyss by dodge enough with mk2

[long wharf]

ffs, both Mobility and Defences affect dodge distance and dodge limit

why Fatshark?

[zinc phoenix]

Avoid 😂

Mobility: the suicide stat

[viscid matrix]

having double the dodge range of 4 is kinda nice lol

just dodge everywhere, its faster than running

[old flame]

I think dd would be better if it fell off in stacks like warp charges do

[inner remnant]

Ah crud, no plasteel lol

[zinc phoenix]

Especially off of ledges

[viscid matrix]

the bane of eveyone, there is never enough

[raw token]

thats so good wdym, thats the whole reason to use mkv

[inner remnant]

True enough

[fierce crest]

did they fix the refund thing

[long wharf]

I don't really spend a lot of time dodging

[viscid matrix]

i believe so

[long wharf]

no need when you can kill at range and up close

why dodge when you can hit and kill?

[fluid knot]

Because you literally cant stand there like a melon an swing in higher settings

[raw token]

you can dodge and hit at the same time

[fluid knot]

You will just die

[spice veldt]

comparison of the heavies between different duelling sword marks

[long wharf]

that's why I use my teammates as meat shields

no need to dodge when you attack through your team

[viscid matrix]

so 4 is vastly better than the others

[fluid knot]

So in other words, you stay out of melee as much as possible

[spice veldt]

yup; god bless fatshark

[long wharf]

melee only when necessary

I prefer to be support/ranged

[zinc phoenix]

So what is mk2 good for?

[spice veldt]

no idea

[raw token]

nothing

[long wharf]

geez, that's a huge difference in heavy attack damage on the mk4

[spice veldt]

the mk2 is the cleave variant but evidently it doesn't have any of that currently

[zinc phoenix]

Why always I get the shitty weapon

[viscid matrix]

you have access to it at level 1, whereas 4 and 5 are after levle 20

[zinc phoenix]

Reee

Once again I am baited by shatshark

[viscid matrix]

tbh thats on you, they give us a lot of info

[naive imp]

The void staff is extremely satisfying.

Holy smokes

[fierce crest]

they did :c

[whole oxide]

well, the numbers aren't the whole story, weakspot are much easier to hit with 5 than 4, so, there is at least a possible reason to take 5 over 4

but, its not like weakspot hits with the 4 are super difficult

[raw token]

i dont understand why they changed how finesse works, its the whole reason psyker is insane rn

[spice veldt]

the thrusts are a little jank

finesse is the same mechanically

it's just that they bumped up the finesse of a lot of things

[raw token]

i thought before it was only crit and attack speed no?

[spice veldt]

fatshark terms

there's Finesse as a stat modifier on weapons, which can affect crit/weakspot dmg and attack speed (or some combination of them)

[limber heath]

"finesse damage" is its own thing

[fierce crest]

so what are the revolver blessings of choice rn

[spice veldt]

and Finesse, in other contexts, refers purely to crit/weakspot/critical weakspot damage

[limber heath]

which is what arco is talking about afaik

[fierce crest]

seems like the melee kill ones make it a beast of a sidearmm

[raw token]

oh i see

[spice veldt]

e.g., the +Finesse boost given by precog

god bless fatshark using the same god damn name for two related-but-different things

[fierce crest]

they should misspell one of them

for less confusion

[unreal tapir]

is there an easy way to get the penance for killing a pouncing hound with bb?

[raw token]

play with a friend

[fierce crest]

m2 so you dont stagger it first

then just wait and time the m1

also make sure you can 1shot them

play on lower difficulty

[neat hearth]

Just asking for some criticism on a build I recently made
Worked well for two damnation auric level missions so far
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a50cb81-286e-4d3b-802e-5578408c2071/psyker-firewall-shield-spam?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Nvm it embeded

[unreal tapir]

if i respec to the enhanced bb tree is that enough to 1 shot a hound on heresy?

[whole oxide]

yes, and on damnation

[hollow depot]

ngl

[unreal tapir]

ty

[hollow depot]

psyker has got this

had to do it to em

[neat hearth]

"We've been trying to reach you about your demon's extended warranty."

[hollow depot]

lmao

its got such good potential

[neat hearth]

also your name being cuban pete just gives me SS13 flashbacks if you know what that is

[hollow depot]

psyker rn

[fierce crest]

oh shit really?

screw those pooches

maybe bb isnt nerfed

[whole oxide]

Brain Rupture with EP has quite a few new better breakpoints

its honestly really good right now, but, nobody notices because assail go swoosh and smite go zap

[fierce crest]

wait, even without EP this is enough

at like 40ish peril

[neat hearth]

Yeah if you go warp rider BB becomes VERY good imo
It's kinda on par with what it was before, but it also goes very well in a soulblaze + shieldspam build

I made a reddit post about this given I've seen lots of comments on it
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1707s03/comment/k3jegwj/

[fierce crest]

ok it takes 46% peril to kill dog

[viscid matrix]

pretty sure it insta kills dogs at all tiers

[neat hearth]

Also psyker's shield gets two charges, meaning you get MAJORLY reduced channel time
Use it to stagger large armored enemies and pop specialists one after another

Combined with soulblaze reducing CD of shields via warp charges, which in turn reduces the CD of your brain burst channel time reduction

[viscid matrix]

its bugged if you use warp charges, and its instant use again if you have at least 1 warp charge

[neat hearth]

I didn't realize it was a bug

but hey I'm here for it :p

[viscid matrix]

you can have more than 5 domes active at once

its def a bug

[fresh dagger]

What's the difference between the various Blaze Force swords?

[fierce crest]

wait

infintie BB on elites

guh

[viscid matrix]

Illiisi has the best cleave
Deimos is the best single target
Obscuros is the low level variant

[neat hearth]

One's special attack hits an enemy like a truck
Another one (Illis I think) is a wide sweep of chunky damage

[mossy wasp]

is there a pinned post for the best builds so far?

[whole oxide]

unfortunatley its only elites, not specials

[fierce crest]

i got so baited by wanting to keep warp charges

[spice veldt]

the gist is the the Deimos has stabs that deal extra damage, the Illisi is psyker's power sword, and obscurus is a worse Deimos

[fierce crest]

yeah

[neat hearth]

Go purgatorus soulblaze warp charge build and it really doesn't matter

[fierce crest]

i wish i could trade my gun for shards too

[neat hearth]

you get warp charges up the arse

[mossy wasp]

bump

[neat hearth]

I don't think so tbh

[viscid matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835513789272126
thread for builds

[primal radish]

I have the best build for Psyker, it's a revolver build that does 600k damage per game on T5

[raw token]

damage != best

[fierce crest]

big fan of shards, vent, psionics with revolver and illisi

[primal radish]

Yea it's just easier to say than "most damage, most ranged kills, most melee kills, most elite kills, most disabled kills, etc"

But that's what I meant

[viscid matrix]

so you carried players who were supporting you

[spice veldt]

for all of the duelling sword (and deimos) enjoyers, the stabs have an easy time headshotting the captain through his shield

[long wharf]

alright folks, suffer with me

[spice veldt]

you can do this with the other attacks, but the stabs have an easier time doing that

[viscid matrix]

not bad, not great but not bad

[spice veldt]

the mk4 duelling sword's special also has a fast followup for the h1

so you cna do the loop of special -> h1 -> h2 -> repeat

[long wharf]

oooo bad start

[spice veldt]

with minimal to no DPS loss

[fluid terrace]

i have reached level 30 on psyker :3

now uh

[viscid matrix]

not bad, not great but its a passable blessing

[fluid terrace]

i guess i;ll get zealot to thirty or try to prefect my build on psyker?

[long wharf]

strike two on the perks

[spice veldt]

o no

[long wharf]

should I even bother upgrading?

[raw token]

i wouldnt

[long wharf]

might get a blessing worth stripping off

[viscid matrix]

you wanted to get a carapace, maniac or flak by the time you got purple

[raw token]

true

[long wharf]

well well well

how the turntables.

[spice veldt]

very nice

[viscid matrix]

at least you got 1 really good blessing

use it until you get a better one

[fluid terrace]

i guess i never gave my weapon stats much thought

[spice veldt]

t3 shred is whatever, but Shred/Riposte is pretty good as the 2nd blessing

[viscid matrix]

swap out both perks, and use it

[long wharf]

so shred isn't good?

[spice veldt]

Shred/Riposte are the best options as the 2nd blessing (besides Uncanny) for the mk4

[viscid matrix]

its not Rampage

[spice veldt]

getting a crit gets you to certain 1/2-shot breakpoints

rampage only procs on push-attacks so I don't really consider it great

even if it is +power

oh wait hmm power would let it cleave 3 groaners wouldn't it

[long wharf]

hmm, turns out I already have Riposte 4

[viscid matrix]

unfortunatly the options of blesings is limited for Dueling swords

[warped perch]

What perks do I want on void staff?

[fluid terrace]

here are my weapons, they seem to work but i never really thought about it, what do you guys say

[viscid matrix]

Warp Nexus is BIS, you want t4

Surge is a close second

[raw token]

are you lvl30?

[fierce crest]

is this cuz of the new weakspot prio systemm?

[warped perch]

Not blessings, perks :)

I have warp nexus 4

[viscid matrix]

ohh, Flak and maniac

[fluid terrace]

just recently got to 30 yes

[warped perch]

Carapace/unyielding doesn’t matter?

Like if I wanna use void for those enemies

If I’m using shards

[spice veldt]

nah it's always been like that since before the patch

[formal glade]

Dumb question, does the special attack on the MK4 do anything; or is it just there as a meme

[raw token]

if you wanna do t5 you should have weapons at atleast like 480 rating minimum, preferably 510+

[viscid matrix]

Carapace is only Maulers and Crushers, Unyeilding is Reapers, and maybe monstrocities

[long wharf]

so on this mk4 I want Carapace and Flak?

[spice veldt]

duelling swords always had weakspot priority

[spice veldt]

for all duelling swords, the special is for stagger

[unique mist]

Is soulblaze or instant damage better on psyker vent combat ability?

[spice veldt]

for the mk4 specifically, the 1st heavy has a fast followup (faster windup) after the special

[fierce crest]

the instant damage doesnt actually deal 200 damage at max, so it doesnt kill groaners, so i hate it

[viscid matrix]

Maniac and Flak cover all but Mauler, Crusher, Reaper and Dogs

[long wharf]

I have Assail for everything not carapace/unyielding

[viscid matrix]

yeh only take the soulburn node, it does more damage after 5 seconds

[spice veldt]

my personal recommendations for mk4 DS perks #psyker-class message

[long wharf]

oh right, Crit chance is important

[viscid matrix]

thats gonna be good until you can make a better one with rampage intead of shred

[long wharf]

I don't have Rampage unlocked anyways

[raw token]

id rather the shred

[feral verge]

i'd rather shred

[fluid terrace]

i dunno how to do that

[spice veldt]

i like my riposte so far since it lasts 6 seconds now

[viscid matrix]

basicly get your weapons to have 75% or more on 3 or more stats

buy whites from the weapons guy, until you get a good one

[fluid terrace]

oh so i upgraded bad weapons?

[viscid matrix]

i can go buy this one right now in the shop 😄

[raw token]

yeah

[fluid terrace]

i thought i messed up on the upgrades or whatever

[raw token]

well you also did do that lol

[fluid terrace]

i bought one from the guy

[leaden mica]

whats the best thing to do vs abominations as a psyker?

[viscid matrix]

i kinda hate that all the weapons are limited to 80% at max

and all the stats have ranges up to 100%

[leaden mica]

brain burst spam or do lightning strikes?

[raw token]

yeah so farm him until you get a weapon with as close to 380 as you can get (which is max) then upgrade it to legendary and hope you get atleast two very good blessings/perks, so that you can change the two bad ones to good ones

[low charm]

On Purgatus, is it only left click, that can crit?

[viscid matrix]

isnt 400 max? its just super rare?

[left turtle]

take this with a grain of salt as im not a psyker main. But i imagine if youre built into BB, it would be better to BB

[raw token]

nope 380 max for grey weapons

80/80/80/80/60

[frank moat]

Channeled Purgatus can crit too, applies two stacks of burn iirc

[viscid matrix]

wait so if we get 4 80s than the 5th is forced to 60%?

[raw token]

yes

[leaden mica]

the dps is so low using BB on abominations 😦

[unreal tapir]

i just finished playing with bb for the kill pox hound achievement. the reason i didnt like psyker at first is because of how bad bb was before the trait system. does anyone actually use it? it cant clear and some of the staves outdamage it.

[leaden mica]

at least on my lvl 21

[unreal tapir]

both of the other blitz are just infinitely better than it and staves already do its job better

[raw token]

thats why weapons have dump stats

[left turtle]

did you just make your psyker? cause once you turn it into brain rupture, it does 50% more damage

[leaden mica]

BB is meant for long distance special killing

[unreal tapir]

yea even with brain rupture, i respeced into that tree for the hound achievement

[left turtle]

iunno i havent had any issues, it one pops pretty much anything except an ogryn, which is like 2. maybe 3 on heresy

[leaden mica]

staff is best for clearing mobs

[left turtle]

then its augment allows you to multi-pop insanely fast,

also, just feels good.

Smite does the damage equivalent to 20yo Chihuahua thats lost all its teeth, and Assail is so busted that its not even fun to use anymore

(not to say smite is bad, it has its uses as crowd control)

[frank moat]

I just hate that Quicken is mandatory with Warp Charges now

[teal needle]

New voidstaff is definitely op, but honestly the slightly upgraded trauma still feels comfier for auric maelstroms <<

[frank moat]

I just wanna hit those juicy BB breakpoints without losing my stacks every time I wanna Psykinetic’s Wrath

[orchid nest]

yeah void may be crazy with its burst but trauma is still the ultimate regaining control tool

[left turtle]

oh another plusof BB is that once you start channeling it, you can hide

you can very safely pop a ranged reigment

[whole oxide]

tbh, nothing feels more like a pro-psyker-gentleman-duelist move than jumping over a ledge, spinning around to grab a special in the one split-second frame where its visible, then sliding under a fence as you hear the crunchy head-pop

assail is so lame by comparison

[spice veldt]

yeah such a shame that it can be used as a main weapon

[cerulean cave]

ngl as much as assail is dope and all...it has to b complimented by something else.

[spice veldt]

you can do semi-cool stuff with and be efficient with the charges, but they come back so much that it's typically more effective to just spam them https://streamable.com/t1ywkz

[fierce crest]

this is why i dont take the recharge talent, forces me to have less of them

[cerulean cave]

based

[empty onyx]

This is the one I'm currently running. I just need a few more points in Damage for my next one, I just barely don't hit the 2-shot on Crushers with a crit. But it does kill every maniac out there, including the Mutant in one.

[fierce crest]

armor pen

revolver, headhunter, slug shotgun

[spark fractal]

oh, i just don't take it because it's not necessary, and it frees up a point to get useful talents

[cerulean cave]

nah. Using surge for that. I meant for hordes actually. I find myself having to swap to my sword a lot, if I do end up having to handle an entire side of a horde myself

[spark fractal]

switching to a staff once you run out of assail charges works fine, surge or void can both deal with carapace

[spark fractal]

toss like 5 shards then sword anyone left over, by the time the next wave of poxwalkers get to you, you can toss more shards

[fierce crest]

idk, with both upgrades shards rip hordes apart

[orchid nest]

trauma is fine for carapace too

[cerulean cave]

yep, this

[teal needle]

When I get surrounded and shit's crazy and then I just start spamming blasts at my own feet until the situation is under control, i feel like a real gamer

[cerulean cave]

too many walkers in higher difficulties

[woeful cliff]

The funny explosion from the plasma launcher counts for the achievement for killing an elite with perils of the warp

[steel egret]

I thought they fixed that, I guess its back

[woeful cliff]

I just got it so, confirmed, it's back

[orchid nest]

yeah just last maelstrom I did with the melee scabs I got hard cornered alone by like.. I dunno, at least 25 elites. mix of crushers, maulers, bulwarks. only thing that would have not only survived sitting in that corner but actually kill them all is trauma and smite I guess but take forever and it's a bug

[pine nova]

I'm a bit confused by the surge blessing. It says 2 shots on crit, does that mean it just goes off twice? This is on a trauma staff

[raw token]

only works with the primary fire

[pine nova]

ew

:(

[rigid blade]

Is it worth continuing?

[feral verge]

Yes

100%

[cerulean cave]

deffo

[fierce crest]

damage and first target is everything for deimos

[rigid blade]

Ok so the second perk was +8% damage to Elites, what do I replace THAT with

[fierce crest]

maniacs

[orchid nest]

yeah maniac

[fierce crest]

pop muties no problem

[rigid blade]

And lastly what Blessing

For the second one I mean

[fierce crest]

preference

[feral verge]

Uncanny strike

[rigid blade]

Whats that do?

[feral verge]

Shreds armor

[rigid blade]

I dont appear to have it so I cant check

Ah, makes sense

[feral verge]

This is a dueling sword some dude just posted

[fluid terrace]

when you reach level 30 where does the xp go? is it wasted?

[orchid nest]

that is a bit harder to say for sure now. used to just be slaughterer but depending on your build and how you are rounding it out there is several good options. but yeah can't go wrong with uncanny

[feral verge]

It has uncanny strike

Deimos has the same blessing available

[tender terrace]

it goes straight to your ego

[spice veldt]

it goes to me; i eat it

[feral verge]

Arco is level 1000

[spice veldt]

no i'm not

technically

[orchid nest]

the true level mod seems fairly popular to track this like V2 had baseline and I'm guessing they will eventually just implement it themselves

[rigid blade]

I still hope they add chests like in VT2

[thorn cedar]

all the extra XP is actually collected and sent to help underleveled children in Africa

[fierce crest]

superiority, deflector, bloodthirsty also fun

[steel egret]

chests containing heretic weapons.. or red weapons..?

[whole oxide]

which means if you're not taking +XP on your curios, you're a bad person

[fierce crest]

i just want bosses to drop loot cubes

[fluid terrace]

what

[steel egret]

your levels still keep rolling.

[fierce crest]

mod so you can see your level as if it wasnt capped

[orchid nest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/156

[fierce crest]

xp is tracked

[analog agate]

I feel this joke wasn’t appreciated enough. You got a good laugh from me.

[steel egret]

I liked it.

[fierce crest]

why arent all blessings visible in the t4 section

t3 only blessing be hiding

[lethal plover]

Lol.... True level

How much time have I dumped into this game

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/ten-seconds-butters-stotch-south-park-s16e3-faith-hilling-gif-23121279

[wintry tinsel]

What is the best "pick n mix" these days build. last achievement left to get the SET from when i stopped playing last year.

[fierce crest]

center keystone

[vale yacht]

does the enfeeble perk work on smite iteself?

[fluid terrace]

this whole time i just though the fire did low damage cuz it's a dot thing

and now ifind out i had 40% damage and 38% burn

[fierce crest]

lul

yeah purg staff is one of the most biased towards certain stats

[left turtle]

Hey so i remember you got stacks from BB before, is that still a thing?

[fierce crest]

its the left side keystone

[frigid dune]

so, how's gun psyker with the more varied blitz abilities feeling?

[fluid terrace]

oh my god it's literally night and day

im testing in the meat grinder

i feel so dumb for not reading

[fierce crest]

also damage isnt as important

burn is like half the power in its stat distribution

[frigid dune]

purg staff burn is seperate from soulblaze, yeah?

[fierce crest]

purg is soulblaze

blue fire

all blue fire is soulblaze

[frigid dune]

oh it's the same thing? so talents that work off soulblaze work off purg staff?

[fierce crest]

all orange fire isnt

yep

[left turtle]

whats the difference between elite and specialist btw

[viscid matrix]

you can use all fire perks on tree, and still do a decent amount of damage with them

[fierce crest]

elites are tanks, specialists are disruptors

[restive willow]

What is the better staff at the moment?

[fierce crest]

ragers, maulers, shotgunners, ogryn are elites

[viscid matrix]

Specialists are the bomber, tox flamers, flamers, dogs, mutie, trapper, and sniper

[spice veldt]

elites are typically enemies that pre-spawn in patrols

specialists always spawn on a timer

[left turtle]

and elites are like the gunners, ragers, shotgunners, etc?

[fierce crest]

voidstrike is busted good

[spice veldt]

Elites:

• Crushers/Bulwarks/Reapers
• Scab/Dreg Gunners
• Scab/Dreg Shotgunners
• Scab/Dreg Ragers
• Scab Maulers

Specialists:

• Poxburster
• Scab/Dreg Flamers
• Scab Bomber
• Scab Sniper
• Scab Trapper
• Mutants
• Poxhounds

[fierce crest]

but all are fine

[fierce crest]

oh gunners are elites too?

[spice veldt]

yup

[viscid matrix]

im saving this 😄

[restive willow]

@fierce crest Does it work well with a support setup?

[spice veldt]

i have this list saved on my onenote to copy paste

[fierce crest]

it works well at everything

[fluid terrace]

i'd use the staff wit hthe high damage but the quell speed is so slow i fear that might be really bad in hectic situations

[fierce crest]

its horde clear, its single target, its armor breaking

[fierce crest]

burn is way more important than damage for purg staff

purg might have the least important damage stat of any weapon

[fluid terrace]

i understand im saying damage, as in both

[fierce crest]

ah

[fluid terrace]

just overal

[reef island]

what blessings/perks you want on trauma staff?

[fierce crest]

crits ignite

more crits

for blessings

[lost dome]

I love funny shards

[spice veldt]

I run a nicher build of Focused Channeling + Rending Shockwave as a support to my melee and for melee maelstroms

[fierce crest]

warp nexus, blazing spirit

or that one

[restive willow]

What blessings for the void staff?

[fluid terrace]

"PUSH EM BA-"

[teal needle]

Surge and crit on peril

[reef island]

okay so should I swap out specialists or elites and to crit chance?

[fierce crest]

neithjer

not crit perk

just blessing

you already have blazing so get warp nexus

[last sleet]

How's the experience with queuing for Damnation? Doable? Or is it better to try finding someone in the LFG channel?

[reef island]

oh alright cool

I solo que into damnnation on my ogryn and psyker pretty commonly

[last sleet]

Decent success rate?

[sterile saddle]

damnation was good until about an hour ago

now its like.. level 15-25 people jumping in

[last sleet]

?

[sterile saddle]

running into daemonhosts and afk during boss fights.. its nuts

[reef island]

You win some you lose some but decently successful yeah

[loud girder]

is there a list of highest DPS melee weapons?

or like a list

[fierce crest]

idk for perks, but its generally considered that damage to a specific type is better than damage to elites/specialists

[reef island]

I feel like the tuned down the spawn rates of enemies since the update in damnnation

[sterile saddle]

tuned down?

😮 it was worse?

[reef island]

no like its fewer enemies

[fierce crest]

dps is not a good stat to care about

but test in the grinder

[raw token]

deimos, illisi, mkiv duellingsword, catachan blade when you parry

[loud girder]

deimos?

[sterile saddle]

i used to only play Heresy cuz im bad

[raw token]

the deimos force sword

[loud girder]

oh the force sword

how is it the highest dps weapon?

[sterile saddle]

its up there

[raw token]

those arent in order, but it might be

[fierce crest]

single target weapons are all gonna be super high dps

[wooden tulip]

On Voidstrike and Purgatus, what should I be getting in terms of blessings/perks?

[fierce crest]

tac axes too

[sterile saddle]

I personally like the Rak axe

[whole oxide]

there's not such thing as a singular "highest dps" weapon, it depends on what you're hitting, how many targets, etc

[loud girder]

are force swords considered bad in general or?

[sterile saddle]

the block sweep is nice for crowds

[fierce crest]

no theyre great

[loud girder]

i see everyone using combat knife instead

[fierce crest]

wut

[spice veldt]

force swords are fine

[sterile saddle]

for anti-armor with bleedstacks, knife does work nicely

[spice veldt]

though currently, the mk4 duelling sword > deimos

[sterile saddle]

but its slow

[spice veldt]

illisi still fits the role that it has

[raw token]

not at all, but i way prefer duelling swords they seem so much more survivable and just generally good

[fierce crest]

DSs dont 1shot muties tho

[sterile saddle]

I saw someone post 'Agile' mod but i've never seen that

is that new?

[loud girder]

i mean deflector is kinda fucking nuts though

[spice veldt]

with 2 uncanny strike stacks and +maniac, they can

[raw token]

no just bad

[loud girder]

like.. giga big

deflector seems ridicules

[sterile saddle]

but its free dodge?

[raw token]

i just use high toughness

[fierce crest]

youre trading kill power for utility

[raw token]

not as good as the other options imo

[sterile saddle]

o

[spice oar]

JUST GOT RENDING SHOCKWAVE 4 RAAAAAAAAAH

[loud girder]

which is the favorited dueling sword

[fierce crest]

theres 2 good ones i think

[sterile saddle]

nice

[spice oar]

I WAS LOOKING FOR EXACTLY THAT RAAAAAAAAH

[spice veldt]

and if running Assail, you won't need to care about specialists that much, and and h2 of the mk4 has a fast followup so you can generally pop a mutant charging at you with a headshot -> bodyshot as they pass by you

[fierce crest]

the cleave one is kinda meh

[spice veldt]

Agile also doesn't exist as far as I can tell

[fierce crest]

b b but

is funny

[spice veldt]

still only 5 blessings per tier for duelling swords in my list

[spice veldt]

tru

[loud girder]

is reflecting an attack considered a dodge?

[spice veldt]

MK4, since it currently has the best damage on its heavies

[fierce crest]

no

[fluid knot]

In normal Damn, Go do Auric Maelstrom an get back to me 😄

[reef island]

no Im scared

[loud girder]

then what are perks you want there?

they all seem meh to me

[sterile saddle]

i feel like it depends on the mission in reg dam

[spice veldt]

for the duelling swords?

[fierce crest]

the 40% damage perks are great

[loud girder]

shred and uncanny?

[fierce crest]

err

[raw token]

uncanny and shred or riposte

[fierce crest]

25%

[spice veldt]

these are my recommendations for the mk4 duelling sword #psyker-class message

[fierce crest]

those are blessings

[raw token]

he meant blessings

[fierce crest]

dangit

2 levels of misunderstanding

[loud girder]

yeah my bad

[fierce crest]

talents are in the skill tree
perks are weapon stat modifiers
blessings are new weapon effects

[silent coral]

what is the build for dueling sword in terms of perks + blessings now?

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message

[whole oxide]

you need a bot to do that ^^

[spice veldt]

i cri

[toxic crown]

This any good from Melk?

[spice veldt]

at least on the mk4 duelling sword, the blessing/perk recommendations are fairly straightfoward

[wooden tulip]

Is it specifically the MK5 or MK4

[humble star]

Is uncanny strike the way to go on Illisi now?

[fierce crest]

ok you win, ive disliked duel swords since saltzpyre, whats the basics to pair with them so i can give them a shot

shards for sure

[spice veldt]

mk4 has the best single-target by a fair amount

[spice veldt]

I personally run trauma + assail + duelling sword

essentially the same setup I had before the patch but the role of my blitz and melee swapped

[whole oxide]

it can't really horde-clear, so, purg or trauma

[fierce crest]

what do the 2 and 5 do better than the 4?

[hushed pike]

Is it impossible to get the feats for Psyker done that involve using Brain Burst? Or did they just not updated the tooltip and Brain Rupture counts for it?

[spice veldt]

mk2 doesn't have anything better besides a sweeping heavy that seemingly does not have extra cleave; mk5 has a better block cost and dodges

[raw token]

5 has insane movement and 2 is just bad

[left turtle]

im trying weapons for the first time as a new psyker, the duleing sword fucks

[fierce crest]

i have this laying arounnd but i'll probly just eat it for riposte

[humble star]

movement speed?

[whole oxide]

5 has better mobility and easier heavy-headshots, 4 has easier light-headshots and bigger heavy damage

[hushed pike]

What?

[fringe garden]

Thoughts on Executor for Force Swords?

[humble star]

4 is the most simple headshot weapon in the game imo

stab stab stab

[humble star]

the 5 gives more movement speed

[fierce crest]

brain rupture is an augment for BB

[hushed pike]

What does movement speed have to do with that at all?

[whole oxide]

its easier when things are calm, when shit's hitting the fan lining up a thrust can be tricky

[left turtle]

is the flamethrower staff still a thing? i feel like id like that to help with hordes since im building in BB

[hushed pike]

So the new brain rupture works for the brain burst feat? They just didn't update tooltip?

[humble star]

fml meant to reply to the person above you, must've responded right when I replied

[humble star]

IDK man, just point and click adventure

[fierce crest]

its still brain burst

[spice veldt]

yeah they didn't really update the penances

[hushed pike]

It's an augmented version of brain burst not the same thing so what I'm asking is.

did they code it to work?

[fierce crest]

its not bugged no

[humble star]

augmented still counts as BB

[hushed pike]

okay I heard ppl saying that certain feats were unobtainable if they used older abilities like Brain Burst or Bull rush.

[humble star]

probably just a bug depending on the person

[spice veldt]

ohhh right

"Feats" is the old name for "Talents"

not penances

just fatshark terms

[fierce crest]

its called the purgatus staff

[humble star]

One of my friends still gets the weekly challenge board not updating bug

[hushed pike]

I was talking about penances but got the name mistaken.

[white oar]

Flamethrower staff very good

Voidstrike is still probably better, but the flamethrower staff has the cool factor and you can run a soulblaze build

[royal falcon]

combine purgatus staff with smite and become a CC god at the cost of any sort of competency at range

[humble star]

Plus nothing wrong for planning ahead since FS will most likely nerf void

[fierce crest]

maybe they will buff everything else :3

[fierce crest]

combine purgatus staff with shards and cry when carapace guys show up

[royal falcon]

necessary price to pay to turn darktide into an idle game

[white oar]

That's what the force sword is for

[feral verge]

a purga staff/build is insanely good

[white oar]

Maelstrom missions are fun

Had a run earlier today where I was the last remaining person alive, ran into a plague Ogryn which I managed to evade long enough to get into the room with my teammates, killed a gunner which spawned another plague ogryn

[teal needle]

Maelstrom is big goofy fun

[white oar]

Unsurprisingly I died but at least it was comedic

[last sleet]

Btw, with assail, is there any strategy on what to do if you get surrounded? I feel like even small enemies can take me down quite quickly if they reach me.

[feral verge]

melee or staff your way out

you cant use assail for/on everything

[paper harbor]

purgatus staff crits fun fun

[feral verge]

swap to a weapon, kill and make space

[paper harbor]

assail panic attack

[last sleet]

I'm using a force sword currently (best weapon I have) and it's a struggle to not go down in melee.

[feral verge]

force sword is good

dodge constaly

force swords have infinite dodges

[paper harbor]

illisi cc

deimos st

[feral verge]

psyker can be a melee powerhouse

and can be nigh unhittable

[last sleet]

Just spam dodge left and right I guess?

Wait, do other weapons not allow you to dodge as much?

[royal falcon]

you killed that pogryn's best friend >:(

[royal falcon]

no other weapon type has infinite dodges

• force swords can have deflector soooo

[paper harbor]

duel sword long dodge

[royal falcon]

psyker survivability can go crazy despite them being made of lego

[last sleet]

Ah. i heard people recommend duelling sword.

[paper harbor]

duel swords dodge many and long distance

[royal falcon]

yeah but do duel swords dodge infinite

checkmate, heretic

[paper harbor]

mk v H.A ovehead same swing patten

[last sleet]

Wtf the game keeps crashing on launch.

[paper harbor]

dodge longe

not infinite dodge

[royal falcon]

I laugh

[paper harbor]

you want more dodge there's skill node let you dodge more and 50% efficency

zealot psyker fun

[royal falcon]

yeah but I wanna hit the force sword shuffle

https://tenor.com/view/shuffle-gif-5025904

[royal falcon]

shit you right

[last sleet]

Last time I played Zealot was during the carpal tunnel knife build time.

[raw token]

doesnt that still exist?

[last sleet]

No idea, I just came back to the game.

[paper harbor]

Empathic Evasion I use are like Hit & Run on crits

[last sleet]

Was funny tho. you were basically invicible as long as you kept stabbin' folks.

[paper harbor]

as long you land crits

you get that

good for my melee psyker

[neat hearth]

This a good staff?

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-neo-keanu-reeves-power-windy-gif-15235043

[paper harbor]

hit some toughness dmg reduction base on peril

good with force sword unstable power

if you wanna build peril up fast

[sterile saddle]

i'd say that staff bad

but I prefer high resistance

[teal needle]

That staff has very little going for it besides damage

[sterile saddle]

cuz i spam the shit out of my weapon

[paper harbor]

unless you have soul siphon reduce peril generate

[teal needle]

Charge rate matters less on void the range is crazy small

[sterile saddle]

it does help tho

[cold geode]

did they fix transfer peril on trauma or no?

[sterile saddle]

it's noticeable

[paper harbor]

voidstrike charging is faster

in base charge without flurry

[sterile saddle]

I feel like Trauma should be double charge staff.. One of them attacks and builds peril and the othe is like a quell stick that drains peril the same way with a charge meter..

cause that would be truamatic

[humble star]

On trauma right click?

[paper harbor]

25% peril build up? then release 10%?

[cold geode]

yes

[sterile saddle]

is trauma dmg good? I can't ever seem to get it to do violence

[paper harbor]

aoe role

[humble star]

Same as with surge blessing I think. Doesn't work. But right click can't weakspot hit to begin with

[cold geode]

aye

[sterile saddle]

can it still crit?

[humble star]

Best staff for mixed horde

Imo

[paper harbor]

trauma used to be do lot stagger, i think they nerf that ogryn can't get stagger?

[humble star]

Yes

[sterile saddle]

is it considered one attack or is it one attack per enemy so it can crit on some but not others?

[fierce crest]

does this give you a crit stream for weapons that have those?

[humble star]

It still staggers ogryns

[paper harbor]

right

how much charge to stagger the ogryn?

like knock down

75%? 80%?

100%?

[teal needle]

Close to full yeah

[humble star]

All crit when you proc crit

[teal needle]

I go full for safety

[sterile saddle]

ty

[paper harbor]

full to make sure.

[humble star]

Yes, once again its the best staff for mixed elites because of that IMO. Full charge ofc for rending anyways

[rigid blade]

What should I replace Unstable power with on my Deimos?

[fierce crest]

lul

[sterile saddle]

is that a crit proc?

fire?

soulblaze?

[fierce crest]

its crits

[spice veldt]

recon?

[fierce crest]

4 crits, 1 non crit, 4 crits, 1 non crit

[fierce crest]

yeah, easier to see vs carapace

wait

[sterile saddle]

wut wpn is that?

[fierce crest]

the high rof recon gets 5 crits per stream i think

[spice veldt]

vine boom

[sterile saddle]

oh I was running something like that on my vet earlier

VIIa is pretty sweet

[spice veldt]

now give Psyker rending on crit 😎

[fierce crest]

LUL

[sterile saddle]

if u run the Right Click for free crit rate

eats ur stamina but its pretty efficient

[paper harbor]

VId

[fierce crest]

yeah

[paper harbor]

is good on vet

[fierce crest]

that one gets 5, the other 2 get 4

[paper harbor]

rending talents on top rights by crits

[sterile saddle]

it even does decent boss dmg, u just gotta remember to stop and let your stamina recharge

[fierce crest]

oh maybe the slow recon only gets 3

[paper harbor]

exploit weakness is good, use crits to rendering 2.5%

VIIa

is slow, hit hard

[fierce crest]

psyk makes recon good vs crushers

[paper harbor]

yeah i have my psyker using recon 6d

full crits

[fierce crest]

what other weapons have crit streams

infantry autoguns for sure

[paper harbor]

flame staff

[fierce crest]

OH

[paper harbor]

sure fun

[fierce crest]

welp

[paper harbor]

i have flame staff crits

[spice veldt]

burst fire headhunters

[paper harbor]

the do fun

[fierce crest]

sadly its not a direct damage monster

[compact bluff]

burst headhunters get crit streams for the whole burst

[sterile saddle]

orly?

[paper harbor]

crucian roulette?

[sterile saddle]

how is the dmg tho?

[paper harbor]

using flame staff crits build like tf2 pyro the Phlog.

[fierce crest]

well flame staffs cant headshot so that talent doesnt really matter on them

would be nuts tho

instant max stacks of fire

[paper harbor]

just crits proc

i do like 400 dmg as i saw somewhere

[restive slate]

Psyker using Recon?

[paper harbor]

horde clearing is a beast

[fierce crest]

oh but youc an build it up with melee and not have to time the swap

[paper harbor]

that's me!

[fierce crest]

just swing a couple times and switch to do a flame burst

but less funny than infinite crits recon

[paper harbor]

if not work, get warp nexus

and +5% crits talents & staff

[fierce crest]

you lied to me

[restive slate]

Im looking for a gun for my Scryer build, open to recommendations.

Currently have Deimos, Revolver and Shards

[fierce crest]

id switch to illisi but

you asked for gun

slug shotgun is fun

purg staff

[paper harbor]

my build using warp nexus and 10% crits total

[steel egret]

🤔

[fierce crest]

HH AGs

[restive slate]

Lol if only Psyker has slug shotty

[steel egret]

Yeah I'll take that shotgun.

[fierce crest]

this is not a stream

[paper harbor]

a slug with 6 max stack soul siphon

[atomic zephyr]

That talent reminds me of the bounty hunter from vt2, every melee kill was a guaranteed crit on next range hit, so swaping back to say a revolving repeater pistol, we would dump a massive crit into a chaos and just down them in 1 hit. I would do that with the void strike.

[paper harbor]

is not crits constant, it only does rng crits

2-3-10-2-3-2-3-3-10-10-10-2-3-2-2-2

[vale yacht]

does the enfeeble perk work on smite iteself?

[fierce crest]

thus, not a crit stream

some high RoF weapons crit several times in a row when they get a crit

[paper harbor]

ill test psykrium moment later

[fierce crest]

so that synergizes with the guaranteed crit from the True Aim talent

[viscid matrix]

https://youtu.be/lAhWdbMPhSc

[fierce crest]

especially ranged weapons that can get headshots and therefor proc it themselves

so you have funny stuff like this where only every 5th shot isnt a crit

idk whats up with the mk6 recon, it should have full uptime but its True Aim stacks just freeze sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

So Scriers gaze with dueling sword/revolver is fun but I dropped BB to carry harder with smite and now I have so few tools to do with mass gunner mobs

Which like yeah the team should help

But

Pug Damnation is always a gamble

Smite definitely makes it easier to deal with the mauler blobs but makes bulwarks more annoying

[feral verge]

for mass gunner mobs, i jsut run in there and stab them all in the head

[zinc phoenix]

It’s too many on high int damn

[feral verge]

i'll whip out las pistol with ghost blessing

to resist gunfire

[zinc phoenix]

Oh that’s fair

[queen trout]

they need to nerk the mk 4 dueling sword its heavies are ridiculous

[zinc phoenix]

I only have shit tier ghost

[zinc phoenix]

Bro that’s all it has 😂

[queen trout]

its fine for hoards if you go right side perks and build it right

[zinc phoenix]

#psyker-class message

[queen trout]

its heavies one shot i think every special

[wet belfry]

You use warp charges?

[atomic zephyr]

Uh no. Thats the only weap with a stab heavy on the DS series.

[paper harbor]

@fierce crest psyker have downside when you using recon gun; ammo.

[queen trout]

even mutants if you stretch over to warp charges

[zinc phoenix]

I’m gonna try ghost blessing lass

That’s not a bad idea at all

[idle marten]

aight how do i use Assail without being "that psyker"?

[spice oar]

Try autogun or Las pistol

[feral verge]

@zinc phoenix this is what im using

as oyu can see, it's stats are kinda shit

but it's holding it's own

trying to roll for a good one

[queen trout]

theyre busted, use them while you got em or use something else. no reason to try to limit them

[idle marten]

thats fair i just like the ability itself regardless of its dps or usefulness hence the question lmao

[spice oar]

If you rlly wanna be respectful or smthn you can decide to not take the faster shard regen talent

Means you arnt spamming as much

[humble star]

Is "that psyker" the players who blow themselves up constantly? Because I've been seeing a lot of those in damnation recently.

[idle marten]

god no if imma blow up its cause Wrath was on cd lmao

[queen trout]

well i dont know what that psyker is i guess, you dont need the faster regen perk its overkill. whip them out and throw like 5 at any specials that are hiding in a hoard

[fierce crest]

dont take recharge talent, bring an armor crackign weapon and use that when you see armor

[idle marten]

the assail spammer that doesnt give a fuck about what the team thinks is fun

[paper harbor]

that goes to the meta-slave

typical

no funner

[idle marten]

yeee that guy i dont wanna bew that guy

[keen harbor]

I blew myself up on damnation at least 10 times before getting used to it, and about 5 times after getting used to it

[kind jay]

is void the only weapon that can reliably stun lock monsters? haven't been able to pull it off with anything else so far

[humble star]

IDC what they are running or doing as long as they aren't being a burden because of it

[paper harbor]

that happen when you tunnel visiont he target with assail without paying attention on peril

goes to me too

[keen harbor]

equinox should be able to? afaik

[queen trout]

i think trauma can but not as reliably

[spice oar]

Trauma

[paper harbor]

trauma i find just staggering elite usefull in small spaces

[keen harbor]

So as a change of pace, I went with voidstrike+smite+EP+bubble shield. I think it's stronger than assail spam everyone is using

[spice veldt]

i don't think trauma can stun monsters can it

I know the voidstrike can on weakspot crits

[fierce crest]

voidstrike and assail are both extremely good rn

[humble star]

"Fix surge on trauma pls"

[paper harbor]

no, but rumbler does

[kind jay]

i think I've seen trauma do it yeah

[keen harbor]

Yes, but you are more effective using voidstrike

[paper harbor]

i tested on monster that the trauma didn't stagger

[kind jay]

void is satisfying right now in a way where i use it most of the run

[queen trout]

must have been something else then my b

[paper harbor]

rumbler

[humble star]

For now at least. Who knows how FS will neuter the void

[paper harbor]

that does stagger on monster like chaos spawn

[queen trout]

there was a rumbler ogryn

[keen harbor]

rumbler ogryn can stunlock plague ogryn and chaos spawn

[soft notch]

at least there's a little bit of skill involved with voidstrike, assail is just push button and win

[humble star]

Not that much more tbh

Weakspot hits are super generous for it

[spice oar]

I'd honestly like it more to be like the plasma burster rockets overclock from drg, where you guide the shards like a swarm of angry wasps with your cursor

[soft notch]

that would slap!

[humble star]

Too much work for FS, they will probably just lower shard count and regen speed

[kind jay]

assail reminds me of the engie smart rifle so i can't hate on it

love me auto locks

[queen trout]

you can do a silly by locking on to the bulwark and then throwing it over his ahead and itll come back around and stagger him open

[kind jay]

you can all while swapping to mk4 to face poke

[brave vale]

I redownloaded the game after ages.

[spice oar]

Yeahhhh

[brave vale]

Is it still true that what matters most is

[fierce crest]

why dont they call all the keystone stacks warp charges

no reason not to

[brave vale]

Is this worth?

[fierce crest]

yes

moblilty dump stat

basically a god roll

[spice oar]

Kinda, I mean good stats are always important. Just now they don't have to be that high to be viable. As long as the stats that are the most important on the weapon (damage, crowd control, defences etc) are in the 60-80 range then your good to go for damn

[fierce crest]

well i guess you have 3 things you want to swap

[spice oar]

Just get your build going

[keen harbor]

I would replace block efficiency and exorcist

[brave vale]

I came back after playing for like 2 months right after launch so Im completely out of the loop. I saw an update for the talent trees and came back.

[spice oar]

Yeah that's a better version of my illisi. Have fun

[brave vale]

Thanks

Any site or guide for reference on builds?

[paper harbor]

damn 378

[spice oar]

Yeah just look up darktide build planner, should be first result

[brave vale]

I quit because the lightnign staff was the best build for Psyker and Psyker was really underwelming

[last sleet]

So, this is basically what I want but all too low, right?

[brave vale]

Whats the meta now?

[spice oar]

Surge is a single target dmg staff now

Voidstrike aswell, many buffs and can pass through bulwark shields, essentially a rail gun now

Trauma had some dmg buffs

Purg is allready good so not many changes

[fringe garden]

Psyker feels crazy now

[spice oar]

Obvs all the talent trees, go find that out yourself or watch a quick guide or smthn. And the dueling swords have crazy headshot dmg if you aim their heavies onto a enemies weak spot

Oh and catachan sword is much better now, can parry pretty much everything and deal AMAZING damage with it

Riposting a crusher overhead to decapate them is pretty badass

[limpid cypress]

It’s kinda nice because whenever I join a mission, and I see the Psyker’s bringing assail, I know I don’t need to try so hard this mission

[fringe garden]

Assail makes me feel kinda dirty

[limpid cypress]

Same!

[fringe garden]

And I enjoy the power fantasy of Smite more anyway

[limpid cypress]

I only bring Smite or BR now because I can almost feel my teammates get frustrated at how fast things are dying

[steel egret]

I dont hold it as quarantee of anything, but its better in comparison to BB spam only Psykers we had before patch.

[fringe garden]

Not to mention locking down 5 ragers and letting my teammates casually mop them up feels great

[spice oar]

Same, I've tried playing assail without the regen talent and its just enough less bs for me to use it

[keen harbor]

if you get tired of assail, pickup a voidstrike staff

[limpid cypress]

Smite is fun enough for me. I feel like I’m really supporting the team, without doing it overwhelming so

[steel egret]

I've used Void most out of all staffs.

all time.

[limpid cypress]

Same. I was a big Purgatus guy until this patch. Voidstrike just feels so chunky now

[steel egret]

Purga the least.. if there was statistic I could tell better.

[limpid cypress]

Purgatus is fun, but with all the buffs Voidstrike got, along with the great sound design of the Voidstrike, I just fell for it fast

[last sleet]

I like surge force staff.

[spark fractal]

it's good, there are now no bad staffs

[steel egret]

Took me hundreds of hours to get Surge blessing, cant even tell when it triggers as second bolt is under first one.

[primal stump]

is anyone else having trouble with pick n mix challange the one to brain burst 4 elites or specialists in 12 seconds.

[last sleet]

Btw, what's the difference between the different force swords?

[fierce crest]

deimos and obscurus have a single target special

[keen harbor]

Illis is fast and spammy
Deimos is slow and hits like a truck
Obscurus is trash, don't use it

[fierce crest]

illisi has a power sword esqe sweep

[last sleet]

Whoops.

[fierce crest]

illisi and obscurus have sweeping normal attacks

deimos has big stabs

[spice oar]

Deimos - single target, illisi - horde clear, obscrusus - Inbetween

[keen harbor]

The moveset of Obscurus is what makes it bad

[spice oar]

Eh

[last sleet]

Then I should probably get an Illisi to pair with my assail build, because the stuff I struggle with is getting mobbed, and for big single damage I have surge staff.

[fierce crest]

its got illisis moveset

[spice oar]

Me like obscrusus cause sword

[keen harbor]

did they change it?

[fierce crest]

oh wait it doesnt

[sterile saddle]

woooo

[fierce crest]

i swear it did when i tested it

[sterile saddle]

9 deaths. Still won

[spark fractal]

you'll get it very easily in high intensity shock gauntlet damnation games, there are so many specials, also there are several talents to let you brain burst super fast

[fierce crest]

oh yeah im hard misremembering, obscurus has a weird moveset

[sterile saddle]

its got high angle vertical swipes too

and the special is a stab

[last sleet]

So. I guess for big mob groups I want Illisi force sword?

[keen harbor]

yeah

Illis: charge it with special, and then take a heavy swing

[fierce crest]

yes for sure

[last sleet]

Alright.

[fierce crest]

obscurus doesnt even seem like an inbetween

[last sleet]

Because that's for sure my weak point right now in my build.

[keen harbor]

and when you are swinging, either sidestep left or turn your mouse left

[fierce crest]

it seems like its got similar cleave to deimos

[keen harbor]

swing it like a baseball bat

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker melee weaps are so awkward to use

[brave turret]

whats the best way to build gun psyker

[flint pawn]

I'd rather just stick with Chainsword

[primal stump]

i've done so many it's not even funny

[last sleet]

And then spam heavy attacks? Or spam heavy special attacks?

[flint pawn]

All the cleave and single target I need in one weapon

[fierce crest]

what gun is fun?

[primal stump]

i managed to solo a boss before i was able to get to even 3/4

[spice veldt]

spam special-heavies on the illisi if you can afford the peril and space to do so

[keen harbor]

you can do whatever with Illis, it's pretty forgiving

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been doing stabby psyker with Scrier gaze, smite, dd

[fierce crest]

and h1l2 if not

[zinc phoenix]

Smite just seems mandatory on Damnation

[keen harbor]

Just make sure to take that +15% toughness regen on warp kill skill

[brave turret]

las pistol

[zinc phoenix]

Las pistol is so weird

And kinda crap imo

revolver supreme

[brave turret]

idk my issue with schier gaze is that it locks you out of warp charges

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but it gives you the power of zoom zoom

[brave turret]

which just unquestionably gives you large amount of damage normally

[zinc phoenix]

Basically if you go SG+DD you’re here to crit farm

So you take every possible crit related thing and you crit your balls off

[last sleet]

Alright, guess now the play is to buy grey illis swords until I get a high roll and then upgrade it. What's the stat to neglect? First target, probably, right?

[fierce crest]

dont have to build too specifically with that, its special uniquely builds peril so its easy to keep high peril when shooting

[brave turret]

i can 11 shot a reaper on damm with the las pistol

[raw coral]

Anyone else getting a weird glitch with assail, where your hands will occasionally get stuck, and you cant do anything until you switch to a different weapon?

[brave turret]

whih isn't bad considering how fast it fires

[flint pawn]

Mobility or Finesse, probably Mobility

[keen harbor]

There are a lot of animation bugs in the game right now

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but revolver it’d be like two or three and you probably had to roll some really nice perks

Also revolver users don’t have to worry about where the bullet is gonna go

See a sniper across the map? You’ll hit it in one if you can aim

[uncut hamlet]

yo guys i found a nice staff from melk

is this a cop

[zinc phoenix]

Las pistol is all over the place with its shooting

[fierce crest]

no

[last sleet]

Is this good enough to upgrade, or should I keep rolling for higher?

[fierce crest]

thats great

[brave turret]

had to 4 shot granted it did only have a 60~ ish in damage stat

[quaint sinew]

any updates on error code 3013?

[zinc phoenix]

Bro I’d just upgrade whatever, if you like it keep it if not you can still eat the traits

[uncut hamlet]

i think its good to upgrade

[flint pawn]

If you're not ADS it's all over the place but I don't remember Stub Revolver being much more dependable without ADS

[last sleet]

Upgraded.

[brave turret]

but keeping high peril consistenly can be somewhat more challenging then keeping warpstacks

[zinc phoenix]

I find I can reliably land hip shots and the ADS is point and click while las gun even in ADS has scatter

[brave turret]

i find that las pistol hip fire

[zinc phoenix]

Not if you go hard with smite 😂

[brave turret]

is really good

[flint pawn]

It has scatter? News to me

[fierce crest]

can do both

[fierce crest]

all the pistols have good hipfire

[uncut hamlet]

damn thats pretty good rolls

[zinc phoenix]

Look unless the las gun I was using five minute ago is a jank piece of shit it scatters hard

[fierce crest]

use the las pistol if you like it

[flint pawn]

I've never had issues with laspistol ADS unless they've changed it recently? But I've used it a few times since the update, it feels fine

[last sleet]

I guess now I upgrade weapons until I get a Precognition?

[zinc phoenix]

Do you use revolver?

[last sleet]

Yeah seems I got lucky.

[flint pawn]

Yes, on my Zealot

[zinc phoenix]

Like what’s your point of comparison for “fine”?

[brave turret]

i do

[zinc phoenix]

I find with las pistol it’s like 2 in 3 or 3 in 4 while ADS while with revolver it’s always 5 of 5 hit where I aim

[fierce crest]

dont listen to the ppl saying its bad, its just worse than the best stuff

[zinc phoenix]

I’m not saying it’s bad 😆 I’m just saying it’s practically an area fire weapon 😂

I like the ghost perk with it, that was a good shout

[flint pawn]

I mean if it scatters for you then I believe you but I haven't had that issue ever when ADS

[zinc phoenix]

It’s very noticeable with long range shooting

[flint pawn]

Maybe I'm extremely inattentive then

[zinc phoenix]

Alternatively maybe I’m a picky ho 😂

[fierce crest]

its got recoil

not innacuracy

[brave turret]

i honestly feel like the las pistol is one of the best

[reef island]

should I sacrifice blazing spirit from right and put it onto left or just keep using right

[fierce crest]

good

keep using it'

[zinc phoenix]

I do wait shorter lengths of tie between shot with las pistol

Between shots

[fierce crest]

the mobility of pistols feel very nice

[zinc phoenix]

It’s just accatran 2 for psyker las pistol right?

[keen harbor]

there's only 1 laspistol

[restive slate]

Psyker laspistol can force shove though

[fierce crest]

theres 3 pistols tho
i see

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ they’ve added a ton of weapons since I last played

We have three force swords now for example

So I check

[restive slate]

What ya smokin Pineapple haha

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a really weak shove

[keen harbor]

There's 1 laspistol, 1 revolver, and 1 autopistol

[last sleet]

Btw you can edit a weapon 2 times right? Does editing the same slot twice count as 2 times? Or can you edit the same slot as often as you like? (basically asking, if I want to put a better blessing on, should I absolutely wait until I have a tier IV?)

[fierce crest]

all have great mobility

[keen harbor]

3 "pistols"

[fierce crest]

so they are "the pistols" to me

[rigid blade]

Two different slots, unlimited amount of times.

[restive slate]

Better than normal shove at least

I miss old Pinning Fire Autopistol

[zinc phoenix]

Like some people say “heavy stubber is really good” but actually they mean the 1 new heavy stubber (gorg) is really good and the rest are trash but don’t specify

[restive slate]

I find Achlys most fun

[zinc phoenix]

It shoots much but is also much crap

[last sleet]

Alright nice. so if I get a tier 3 blessing, I'm good using that for a while until I find a tier 4 version.

[restive slate]

Best? Doubt. But fun? Definitely

[restive slate]

Achlys go BRRRRRR

[zinc phoenix]

I agree with you tbh 😂 the sheer quantity of lead is fun

Anyway Scrier/smite/destiny is totally valid on Damnation. Recommend picking up toughness on crit (cuz much crit) and toughness on peril stuff (cuz Christ almighty much peril)

Been running with dueling sword mk4 and various guns

[hushed pike]

Which staff is the Rifthaven staff again?

Is that the one that does the ground AOE?

Or the aoe ball.

[brave turret]

sometimes i wish you could use warp siphon without expending all your stacks

[hidden leaf]

how many here will switch to sienna`s necromancer ?

[fierce crest]

ground aoe is trauma, projectile ball is voidstrike

[zinc phoenix]

It looks neat but I am done with Vermintide personally

[brave turret]

i used to run destiny until i realized how much more consistent damage output you get with warp charges, since destiny stacks go away all at once

[zinc phoenix]

As an old Siena main

[zinc phoenix]

You’re right but it’s fun for going super fast with massive crits in melee

[cold geode]

anyone noticed that from time to time smite just straight stops generating any peril at all regardless of how long you hold it? then it fixes itself if you stop casting for a few seconds and start again?

[spice veldt]

Rifthaven is the flamethrower staff

[last sleet]

Can you mark items as favourite to not accidentally destroy them?

[zinc phoenix]

That’s with empower. Empower makes it cost zero peril. Center line bottom thing y. It’s a bug imo

[fierce crest]

yeah i wish damage per stack was default, 6 stacks was were damage is now, and expend all stacks was at the end

[cold geode]

yea, i think its a bug as well

[zinc phoenix]

Purgatus is really good for farming empower stacks

[restive slate]

Smite probably will have reduced peril generation when fixed

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I think the smite peril iis a feature not a bug

High peril gen is useful for some builds

[restive slate]

I mean for Empowered that is

[zinc phoenix]

Oh yeah

[last sleet]

I wish you could only enter demnation at level 30. :(

[zinc phoenix]

Some people are good enough that it doesn’t matter… the rest are annoying

[brave turret]

disrupt destiny even if all the stacks didn't go away at once would be more acceptable if trashed mob could get marked

[restive slate]

From my runs, i feel Warp Charges and Empowered are more reliable than Destiny

[fierce crest]

thats what auric is for

[restive slate]

The only consistent benefit of Destiny is the marking of random surrounding enemies

[cold geode]

also, the game is dead set that I HAVE TO HAVE my scrollwheel bound