#psyker-class

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sterile saddle
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but the FEAR MY FAITH ability is dope. Free sheild, stuns mobs and can even push ogres and chaos spawns around XD

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literally walked a chaos spawn off a ledge

lucid pewter
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isn't warp siphon better than disrupt destiny?

orchid nest
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Lol yeah the ledging is super funny

lucid pewter
sterile saddle
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Warp Siphon with max charges gives u passive dmg

lucid pewter
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yes 24% damage

sterile saddle
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its not as much dmg as DD but its like.. Free and maintains a bit better

spice veldt
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I'd run DD solely because you're already on the right side and because you're probably going to take True Aim

sterile saddle
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u have to sell ur first child to get enuff skill points to get it tho

orchid nest
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alright yeah I tested it again I wasn't smoking something, they run into the dome and crash into the opposite inside wall of the dome and stumble

lucid pewter
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yeah i guess warp siphon is less stress free

spice veldt
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so the point investment into warp siphon is heavier

sterile saddle
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thats awsm

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It'd be neat if there was a perk for Smite that let you charge blocks for extra crowd control.

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like push and then hit them with lightening

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As it stands it's more of a shoot with lightning and then push

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which feels awkward

fluid knot
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Aye for sure it can be done, but its very risky

orchid nest
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I kind of wish going into any keystone was as easy point wise as empowered and it was balanced around it

fluid knot
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I exploded a lot day one of the patch using Scriers/Assail KEKW_ogryn

naive imp
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Does scriers generate a lot of peril on cast?

granite mauve
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i wouldn't know i use laspistol with it

orchid nest
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warp rider doesn't help the situation I guess, you're going to take it and it's already the shortest path

fluid knot
fluid knot
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You can get at most like 4 cycles out of it before you're generating it too fast to do anything with

sterile saddle
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it's actually pretty safe to run smite/scriers as if u reach 100 on smite it'll just stop u automatically. Not sure if that's a feature or what

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but scriers is sorta useless on smite

orchid nest
royal granite
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so when you throw an assail dart with empowered psionics, the dart hits 3 more times

sterile saddle
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so u hit 6?

royal granite
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as far as i can tell, normal darts can hit three times, empowered will hit 6

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maybe more, don't know exactly, haven't tested more than to confirm that empowered hits more

shut ether
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Is assail overtuned?

royal granite
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yeah

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they need to slow down the rate at which shards recover i think

shut ether
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Yeah uptime seems near permanent

royal granite
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ok i'm getting like 7-8 hits per dart with empowered assail

compact cargo
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Empowered assail is a bigger issue tbh, empower in general...

plucky flax
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Real memers run dd with assail.

orchid nest
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they need to do it in a way that is combination of talents and base otherwise it just hurts variety even more as you'll be even more forced into empowered

compact cargo
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empower smite is borderline game breaking

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you can crash xbox folk with it if enough effects are on screen

royal granite
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i think it's fine for assail to be a good oh shit button, your oh shit button just shouldn't also be your main weapon

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and maybe don't let assail build charges of empower

spice veldt
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it's fine to let it build charges

compact cargo
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Massive finess damage, low bodyshot damage

spice veldt
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just that assail itself is too good and is able to reliably build stacks

compact cargo
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Lowering base damage would help but it can become an issue on lower lvls

royal granite
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i'd rather have assail be extremely good but not be something you can use all the time

spice veldt
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yesh

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nerfs to it's aim assist, max ammo, and ammo regen

orchid nest
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to be fair if you take assail baseline and don't grab empowered or its linked talents it's not a main weapon which is why I really hope this is addressed with talents and not the base skill

royal granite
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the aim assist is fine, that's literally the point of assail

compact cargo
# spice veldt yesh

I love throwing knifes straight ahead and then look at whatever I want to destroy

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so no

royal granite
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max ammo maybe, ammo regen definitely

patent steeple
royal granite
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i think smite is fine

spice veldt
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aim assist is boring and you'll have to balance out a weapon's DPS to factor for it

royal granite
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it has a different application than assail as well

spice veldt
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at the very least, the RMB should be a targeted straight throw

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and not have such a slow windup

royal granite
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also voidstrike needs a nerf so it can't solve literally every problem

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cause right now you can actually trickshot assail around bulwarks to hit them in the back of the head and it is SO satisfying

orchid nest
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that would make the RMB more useable and higher skill simultaneously so it would be a good change for sure

royal granite
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but completely pointless since voidstrike just pens shields anyway

tawny venture
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sry i am not trying to spam i just copied what i posted in help...
any tips for 'prioritize targets' psyker penence... never used G (bb) even before update... but i want that mask... right now using purgatus... two runs and i was only able to kill one specialist with bb... is there some way to avoid using G it leaves me wide open and i fk up my team also i missclick and fail...

royal granite
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learn how to dodge while you charge it

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and also keep in mind you can target someone with lmb then quickly duck behind cover without losing lockon

tawny venture
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ooo didnt know that,ty that changed tactic a lot

royal granite
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it's great for taking out gunner teams

orchid nest
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lmb but yeah. rmb is the pre charge up

royal granite
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oh whoops

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yeah my bad

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tbf you can also hide behind cover and charge it with rmb, then pop out and explode a head

orchid nest
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do these new talents work with the penances even? hopefully they do. like the "upgraded" base ones

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it would be a very fatshark thing if they didn't

royal granite
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someone yesterday said the upgraded bb does count

orchid nest
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oh good haha

royal granite
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but also apparently one of the zealot blitzes counts?

formal hill
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Your Current Average Maelstrom game

raw token
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can quickplay queue into maelstrom?

royal granite
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doubt it

formal hill
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yes

royal granite
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although it IS fatshark

formal hill
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I've done it

royal granite
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lol welp

formal hill
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that was that game actually lol

raw tangle
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Which is better staff voidstrike or surge

royal granite
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i'd also accept one big shard that chains 30 times

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that'd be dope

golden frigate
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this bot has a better total score than any of you will ever have

royal granite
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and also intriduce some skill, since if you don't immediately acquire a new target once you hit something your shard despawns

royal granite
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someone left at the end probably

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it's a bit odd how rigid the other classes' talent trees are

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it's way easier for psyker to make a hybrid of each side than zealot or vet

old flame
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i dont care what anyone says, smite is god tier. it shuts down entire hordes

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makes auric missions easy

cinder moon
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as long as your team actually kills whatever you're stunlocking

fresh crater
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and you dont get hit in the back

royal granite
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yeah smite is amazing

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idk why anyone would dispute that

fresh crater
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im not saying its bad just annoying getting knocked out of it every 5 seconds

frigid sparrow
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Had to feed my kid! I'm looking at it now

plucky flax
plucky flax
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Aye mah dood

naive imp
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I need to download it and the short talent tree.

I’ve never downloaded mods for steam. Do you just plug and play?

plucky flax
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Not quite but it's fairly simple. There's a reddit post somewhere to teach ppl how to mod.

formal hill
golden frigate
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and there are tutorials on the most downloaded ones, it's the same for every mod you install

calm lotus
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yeah darktide doesnt use steam workshop

slate sun
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Is voidstrike with surge+nexus actually valid right now guys? I'm coming back after a longer break, call me excited πŸ™‚

naive imp
plucky flax
plucky flax
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Shield is good but you need decent teammates too since the damage output is not as high as shovel or club.

formal hill
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That's what I was using

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is what I'm saying

calm lotus
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thats why you bring bleed with it

slate sun
shut ether
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Oh probably because they upped the carapace damage on void. It feels like it kills everything now

plucky flax
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I know it's sadge your team was kinda sus.

formal hill
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You either carry the game or say gamer words, no in betweem

naive imp
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Shield looks amazing. Haha

plucky flax
formal hill
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just remember, any build can work, it's just varying degrees of difficulty

calm lotus
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is mk1 op?

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havent seen that much about it

formal hill
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Can be if you have the right build

calm lotus
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mk4 knife i believe is pretty crazy though

plucky flax
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Yeah a lot of heavy attack buffs for ogryn so shovel and mk1 became really really strong.

calm lotus
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havent used it myself but i know its real good

frigid sparrow
plucky flax
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So is mk4 knife.

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Ty It's a bit more centralised so I can see the buffs and stuff easier.

formal hill
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Me Ogryn, just hit

frigid sparrow
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Are mods updated now? Is it safe to try them out again? I really only tried scoreboard before the patch

formal hill
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dont look at buffs

plucky flax
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Some aren't but stuff will work.

lavish forge
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did they buff the sabre because imw atching a video of someone hitting a 3 hit breakpoint on mutants

formal hill
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they buffed most things

frigid sparrow
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Okay, I'll check them out. Also, zealot chat has a pin with recommended blessings/perks for weapons. I don't see one here. Is maniac/flak still recommended when it comes to surge staff?

lavish forge
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dueling sword always felt weak compared to force sword but i see a lot of good players use it

raw token
dusk rose
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is the bio energy for CC hordes and less for damage?

lavish forge
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yes

formal hill
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Cliffhanger penance works with Smite

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just as an FYI

valid ridge
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Genuinely thinking about just dodging every lobby I get an assail psyker

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that shit makes games into snoozefests

plucky flax
still hearth
golden frigate
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what if I'm scared of the warp

sterile saddle
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dont be

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warp is ur friend

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my beloved lives there

valid ridge
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The werp

naive imp
sterile saddle
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base

naive imp
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so then i just open the txt and load them?

fluid knot
plucky flax
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Btw I tested again. Demolition team doesn't give teammates grenades anymore.

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I'm hoping that's a bug.

sterile saddle
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its not

formal hill
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its not

sterile saddle
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tooltip is wrong

fluid knot
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I dont think so, it would be impossible to balance giving Oggy regenerating nukes

naive imp
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this good, right?

plucky flax
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Well no point in me using that talent then when I use the 60s grenade regen.

sterile saddle
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i use grenades like crazy

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not enuff tbh

plucky flax
fluid knot
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I mean, its still a chance for an extra free one, law of averages probably means it works out to 2 free ones every 60s inc other feat

naive imp
plucky flax
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True. It depends on how much grenades you use.

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I guess I do use a fair bit. Krak grenades kinda op.

fluid knot
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They are pretty Kraked one could say πŸ˜„

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I'll see myself out

plucky flax
pearl crest
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i hate zealot

plucky flax
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Tru they are too op.

pearl crest
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they're talking about psykers over there

shut ether
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I want to get back into grinding Darktide byt Cyberpunk has me in a chokehold currently

dawn sphinx
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Hmmm. . . Clearly the stamina is going out. What else should I change about it?

still hearth
naive imp
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yaaaas

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one pic finally. lol

brave turret
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disrupt desitny is gonna need buffs if its gonna be viable in comparison to warp charges

plucky flax
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It's good it's just a bit buggy with how sometimes it doesn't mark enemies fast enough.

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When it's supposed to be 1 enemy per second(?)

queen fog
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it matter if ur in range

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theres a invis circle around the psyker to decide who gets hit by DD

brave turret
still hearth
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Just run without a keystone

queen fog
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so vet gaming?

plucky flax
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Ah yeah stacks drop off one at a time would be a very nice change to it.

brave turret
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with warp charges you need to kill 6 specialist and elites enemies and your at max potenial

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with disrupt destiny

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you need to either kill 15/30

queen fog
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its bodies on bodies on bodies

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oh no a elevator, all my DD stacks are now gone

brave turret
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and the fact horde enemies or orgyns dont get marked

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make it almost impossible to get full stacks

brave turret
naive imp
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failed but the damage done from assail is...a lot. heh

ornate hamlet
frigid sparrow
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Okay, so assail, surge force, and dueling sword. What are my options for dealing with bosses?

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I feel like I'm having a tough time hitting those guys tbf

keen harbor
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voidstrike

queen fog
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yea ballin staff is a good way to go

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get a decent enough roll on the stagger and you'll be making a CS stagger

frigid sparrow
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I'll consider it, I don't have the plasteel atm

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What about with what I have

keen harbor
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trauma is also an option

raw tangle
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Guys what's pyskinetics wrath is it a perk cus I cant find it πŸ˜‚

turbid quartz
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Does Smite together with Empowered Psionics suppose to generate 0 peril at all? With at least 1 stack it's possible to cast Smite for an indefinite amount of time

plucky flax
patent steeple
frigid sparrow
thorn cedar
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I think all DD needs is a bigger range.

plucky flax
keen harbor
turbid quartz
keen harbor
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The other bugged combination is bubble shield + warp siphon

raw tangle
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@patent steeple ty would venting shriek count towards the blessed fate penance or does it have to be the basic one?

dawn sphinx
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Any good advise for that weapon? What should I replace the stamina with and should I replace a blessing - or just get shred 4 if I can?

turbid quartz
naive imp
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does the surge staff essentially use smite?

patent steeple
whole oxide
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Precog to Uncanny, Stamina to Maniac

dawn sphinx
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Thank!

naive imp
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i could see having the psyker there specifically for elites/bosses. brain burst and just active ability and nuke

keen harbor
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It lets you spam a ton of bubble shields

raw tangle
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Penance

keen harbor
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2 wall shields vs 3~8 bubble shields

turbid quartz
keen harbor
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honestly, you don't really need to put down more than 2 bubbles. 3+ starts to block visibility

queen fog
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all these bubble layers and i still can't stop a sniper shot with them whatthefuck_heresy

potent echo
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They don't block sniper shots?

idle bay
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I normally avoid damnation and high intensity (health issues - stress can bring be down into a bed) but this time i risked it and fully enjoyed it without any stress πŸ™‚

plucky flax
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dats op mane

potent echo
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Damn almost the whole offensive score is yellow KEKW_ogryn

idle bay
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Assail and Void staff

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And Psyker do not suppose to deal that much boss damage either...

potent echo
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Understandable

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Yea void is kinda cracked isn't it

plucky flax
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I think most damage dealt atm is probably zealot go fast build.

idle bay
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Everything i used are cracked.... though i hope t remain that way. No matter how killjoys screech on forums - that other player having fun is bad for them πŸ™‚

potent echo
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I mean it can be brought back a little bit

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Else the other 3 players just twiddling thumbs

keen harbor
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IMO, just need to tweak the reload speed of shards

idle bay
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Assail actually need some extra effort from player to be this effective... some erratic mosuse movement after each arrow does the trick

potent echo
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Yea, or limit to 5 shards

plucky flax
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670k damage in 29 mins is kinda cray cray.

keen harbor
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like I shouldn't be able to play the game with only shards

summer prairie
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It's probably fast enough but it doesn't do a good job selecting targets

wide summit
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man, not being able to just click G again to go back to the last selected weapon is such an oversight.

potent echo
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169 whatthefuck_heresy

idle bay
keen harbor
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Because the equivalent would be running around as a vet with grenades that reload in 10s vs 60s

potent echo
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I'm in love with vet shredder nades

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Chuck 2 and everything dies

keen harbor
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The voidstrike/assail/shield meta is popular enough, that I built my zealot and vet around supporting that

idle bay
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But yeah barrier/shield psyker in team is very comforting. Instant defuse of tough situations

potent echo
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The special walls are so good at stopping mutants or dogs or bomber nades or flamer flames

fresh reef
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I'm really glad that the wall and dome are mechanically distinct enough to effectively be separate abilities, because holy fuck Gaze feels like it does nothing

potent echo
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Just so good

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Gaze needs to give like

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50% crit at least

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Maybe 20% damage and then climbing crit stacks

summer prairie
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It's supposed to be a gunpsyker ability but that makes even less sense. I think it's supposed to quell peril both when you hit and kill

potent echo
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Yea and bonus if it goes into cooldown while you are using the ability, stack it back to back

analog agate
idle bay
summer prairie
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It's called psyker_gunslinger_ability in the code

potent echo
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Where melee psyker Sitgryn

iron star
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best psycher talent tree for the electric stuff?

idle bay
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JK... we can stack like 40% extra damage easily and go nuts in melee with Force swords

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With extra damage from blessings in weapon

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The Poke is still possible? I mean one-hitting Mutants with a poke from Deimos?

keen harbor
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Yeah, that should still work

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although, chainsword can do that now too

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rev and light attack will one shot a mutie

idle bay
vernal frost
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does anyone know if psyker abilities can inherit the weapon's blessing effect?

potent echo
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And yes you can still do it

keen harbor
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The chainsword still has camera issues yes, but it gets stuck less often now

idle bay
potent echo
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With some help, either warp charges, some rending stacks, or some qeril > damage

plucky flax
potent echo
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Yea I think no more Deimos stab for mutants though, but I only tested on the first day

limber heath
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I'm torn between deflector and the ability to skewer basically any enemy in the game lol

idle bay
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Great to see it's still doing good

plucky flax
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It's different and not as mindless as before.

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You need to do stuff now and not just left click spam.

potent echo
reef island
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this thing salvageable?

plucky flax
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Yeah the antax special is super fast and will stagger anything.

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Maybe not crusher when it's doing side swing.

potent echo
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If you use it for horde clear, you can swap precog instead

reef island
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awesome! ty, need a good melee

potent echo
plucky flax
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The overhead you can stagger it out of it.

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My antax build has extra stagger on weakspot hit so I can actually stagger chain crusher infinitely.

potent echo
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I need to test with the duelly special too

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Patch notes say extra stagger if weakspot hit

outer owl
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I dont know why but when I test my psyker in the psykanium

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I suddenly got random brain brust

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I was just testing the purgatus staff

native oyster
outer owl
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yeah\

native oyster
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Which stat on the purgatas staff is the dump stat?

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I dont play pycher much and i dunno what to roll for when buying new staffs

outer owl
summer prairie
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They don't matter much but you want 76+ burn and high cloud

native oyster
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Aight

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What about the surge staff

outer owl
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It did like crazy damage

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for some reason

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It is too powerful to simply be just a crit

frigid sparrow
limber heath
# outer owl

I hope you're not spending your plasteel on upgrading early weapons. Not worth imo since you'll replace them every time

summer prairie
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that's a kinetic flayer proc

frigid sparrow
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Take the 25% heal on damage and 50% DR on next wound and they feed off each other. You can keep the momentum too

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+2 wound perk is nice and means you can run less wound curio

plucky flax
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Hrm anime_think

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But you lose out on big peepee hp.

outer owl
frigid sparrow
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Backstab kills have higher refresh rate than crit CD too

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Nah fam, you don't need it

plucky flax
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I am noob I need big cushy hp. staregryn

outer owl
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like why would a crowd control staff have that high crit??

frigid sparrow
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You honestly get to the point where you're like too tanky and start wondering if you can pick more DPS perks

plucky flax
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I already play tanky ogryn build if I want to tank.

frigid sparrow
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I run it with chainsword, but it's not weapon dependant at all so up to ya

limber heath
frigid sparrow
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Also don't fall into bleed crit trap, just build your dagger for rending/backstabs or whatever when you decide to try that playstyle out lol

outer owl
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OHHH

plucky flax
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I never like knife but I do have a crit devil's claw build.

frigid sparrow
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DC is pretty good, I like it

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I have trouble dealing with armored boys with it though. The more I play zealot the more I realize idc about chaff/hordes and need to deal with armored stuff. Chainsword ends up doing better cause its special can one shot them all

limber heath
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It's on a 15s cooldown so it's not that OP but if you're going BB it's not the worst IDT. Although the proc will often get eaten by fodder

plucky flax
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Yeah chainsword is so strong now.

left hare
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what perks for a surge staff

frigid sparrow
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But if you're running something ranged that can kill those things, I imagine that fills that gap

plucky flax
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Evis got better but not as good as chainsword.

left hare
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and blessings

frigid sparrow
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Idk, I just run an autogun and call it a day. I just use it for ranged immunity to chase gunners when my vet sucks 😦

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Evis is overrated 😦

plucky flax
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Evis would be really strong but I lost my special sauce. whatthefuck_heresy

frigid sparrow
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Though I gotta figure out if a rev'd heavy swing with bloodletter keeps the massive sweep and drops bleed stacks on things

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The problem with bleed for me is everything dies too quick to really make use of stacks

naive imp
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Infinite toughness and big dam

plucky flax
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Oh in time of actual horde clear speed psyker and zealot are faster.

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Zealot faster melee kills, psyker with staff.

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But ogryn deal with mixed horde really well because of their hard hitting heavies.

potent echo
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Haymaker value

plucky flax
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Like the melee only condition with a bunch of maulers and crushers.

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That's when you bring an oggy with shovel/mk1 club.

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Taunt + smash. whatthefuck_heresy

potent echo
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after playing glug gryn, i really miss the gryn charge

plucky flax
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I currently don't have a charge build.

potent echo
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cant do the mad dash to res someone on the other side of the room

plucky flax
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I find the taunt really really strong.

potent echo
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taunt just takes so much heat off your team

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it works on bosses too?

plucky flax
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No don't think so but it'll stagger the boss.

potent echo
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i guess you can take aggro that way, temporarily at least

plucky flax
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Yeah I always spec for the extra radius so it's pretty long range.

pale matrix
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any sources of good monster damage for psyker?

lofty temple
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Brain Burst nvm

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You're done for as Psyker

summer prairie
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combat blade with mercy killer and flesh tearer

rugged fiber
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Well voidstrike is okay tier

steel flame
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ew

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lacerate so much better

summer prairie
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not really anymore

lofty temple
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Surge or Warp Flurry on the Voidstrike?

summer prairie
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since flesh tearer is 8 stacks and you crit all the time

steel flame
lofty temple
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It's game over man...

plucky flax
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True aim + crit chance perk for full meme. whatthefuck_heresy

lofty temple
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It takes so long to charge

steel flame
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id say go fire void, but that got nerfed into the ground cause the base void got so much better that its hard to spread fire anymore when the void just kills everything

plucky flax
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Blaze trauma still lives thanks the lord.

hollow spindle
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Yup, voidstrike is busted atm

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also psyker being able to 2tap crushers with the non-force sword is hilarious

steel flame
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mk4 go brrrrr

kind jay
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need a dueling chainsword

radiant lance
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You mean with all buffs up right?

silent chasm
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do we have any psyker meta builds available as of yet?

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it feels a bit early to ask but my sisters, brothers, and others in 'tism work fast sometimes

azure veldt
silent chasm
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me to and that's what's making me nervous

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like... should we be expecting a nerf anytime soon?

azure veldt
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I think it's inevitable that FS will either nerf us or buff enemies.

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The current state of balance is very different to pre-patch 13

silent chasm
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like I noticed they seemed to have stealth nerfed my Vet friend's healing i think (the medipacks used to cleanse all corruption for a while there it seemed) and I'm worried we're next in the crosshairs

azure veldt
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Honest to God I found the Vet worse since 13.

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The psyker on the other hand is cracked. Empowered assail goes "brrrr". As the kids say.

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Empowered anyth8ng goes brrr... actually.

silent chasm
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Empowered lightning is so good.

azure veldt
#

I would bet the hoise that empowered smite gets fixed/overhauled.

silent chasm
#

that one mission where you have to do false intel on three terminals, and then move into centre for the last bit? Hold LT, hold RT, never let go.

azure veldt
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Unlimited power is good meme but being able to walk through the entire game constantly casting smite is not right.

silent chasm
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I respectfully disagree I think it is perfectly right.

azure veldt
silent chasm
unreal wasp
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I wish ALL of the force sword grips were this thick

azure veldt
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Tbh though- empowered assail and BB are also very strong

raw token
azure veldt
silent chasm
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because I think I should be able to palpatine entire continents because I am a Good Girl who deserves Nice Things.

unreal wasp
silent chasm
#

it balances out the idiot teammates who startle the daemonhost EVERYFUCKIGNTIME and just... refuse to participate in objectives.

unreal wasp
#

I wish all of the force sword grips were as thick as that one though, don't know why you'd have a long, thick blade and then a grip you can barely squeeze

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Also a light grip for said heavy blade

silent chasm
# azure veldt That's a good counter

like seriously my friend BC (vet) and I were in one of those awful "scan things for the servo skull" missions, the one with the nurgle snot tree at the end, and the other two just REFUSED to use the scanner. Despite the fact that I was throwing bic pens like a madwoman and taking out most things. We ended up failing purely from attrition.

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we couldn't keep doing it forever

unreal wasp
#

Can't be for dexterity because you aren't going to be making any dextrous swings with an unbalanced sword

azure veldt
unreal wasp
#

Damn you right

willow cobalt
#

What are warp attacks? Does anybody know?

formal hill
#

Like where they new or just slow

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Were*

limber heath
kind jay
willow cobalt
silent chasm
limber heath
#

What is champion staregryn

silent chasm
formal hill
silent chasm
formal hill
#

Vermintide enjoyer

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Love to see it

silent chasm
#

yep! I pride myself on being a good kerillian player.

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Well "good" in quotes I suck at the game but I don't run off on my own like a moron

formal hill
#

Hagraine bow shooting me in the back you mean

silent chasm
#

Actually Briar Javs but yea

formal hill
#

I wouldn't expect anything less

silent chasm
#

(BC has gotten tired of me making the "me javelins" joke)

unreal wasp
formal hill
#

British Columbia

silent chasm
#

either that or I try to enjoy the wizard stick she has but it's hard to.

formal hill
#

It's op

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Being able to levitate specials before they cause an issue

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So your BH can take them

silent chasm
azure veldt
silent chasm
#

he's like a dog in more ways than one. scared of thunderstorms, new people, likes to go for walkies, etc.

formal hill
#

Well, if you are having a streak of bad teamates, you're welcome to join me and my boy and we can take you through some

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Offers always there

silent chasm
unreal wasp
formal hill
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Just randoms you can count om

silent chasm
#

nodnod, I'll see what the future holds.

formal hill
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That goes for anyone btw, if anyone in here wants to go to a higher difficulty but is scared to make the jump, I can take you through some

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I'm an Ogryn main, so it's mandatory that I'm wholesome

raw tangle
#

Is there anyway to make brain rupture to charge faster

limber heath
#

Empowered psionics

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If I'm not crazy I think one of the nodes right beside it also affects charge time but unsure

pine nova
#

can anyone explain what the fuck is wrong with mm today? I am 0/4 on damnation games

silent chasm
#

don't games like this use the date as part of the random seed?

raw tangle
#

Thanks trynja do penance and mutantsand hounds are dead beforeI can pop there brains lol@limber heath

silent chasm
#

so it literally could be a day where the AI Director is a fuck'ead

languid tusk
limber heath
olive ember
#

rando's are the pinacle of brainrot

olive ember
#

doesn't matter what game you are playing

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if it is coop you can assume the rando's are brainless

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MvM, Darktide, DRG, FFXIV, list goes on

gusty furnace
#

Anyone got an assail build

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I wanna be a meta slave

olive ember
#

I can give you mine

gusty furnace
#

shure

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works for me

olive ember
#

tho it might not be to your tastes

silent chasm
gusty furnace
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Do i just

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sit there with assail out the whole match

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cause that's kinda what I'm looking for KEKW_ogryn

silent chasm
olive ember
#

oh wait

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nvrm

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that shit is outdated

#

ugh lemme log on to my game

gusty furnace
#

oh

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rip

lilac quartz
#

What's the best build rn

olive ember
#

it still works

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just

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I've changed some stuff around for my tastes

summer prairie
olive ember
#

^^ Mine is similar to that tho I have points allocated into Ascendant Blaze n all that

formal hill
#

Virgin Assail users vs me, Chad Smite Enjoyer

summer prairie
#

I've those too, the site just needs work

olive ember
#

yeah its also annoying because you can't just link it

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you have to screenshot it

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I want like pd2 builder ffs

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or borderlands builder

summer prairie
#

you can alternatively switch empowered psionics to DD with 30s stacks, works okay depending on the map

olive ember
#

Disrupt Destiny is kinda iffy where it feels real shit when your teammates kill your marked target

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anti team synergy

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it also doesn't work against certain types of enemies iirc

summer prairie
#

if you hit a marked target at all you still get a refresh

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so with 30s stacks is workable, but 15s is not

olive ember
#

oh yeah I could try 30s stacks

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cuz I was doin 30 stacks that last 15s

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@gusty furnace @silent chasm

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this is what I run

radiant lance
#

Woops, wrong chat.

silent chasm
#

oh wow that's surprisingly similar to mine

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but I don't... okay I gotta ask. what is the force push for

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it doesn't seem to do anything but stumble them, which is nice but I can push with my sword.

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I guess it cools you off in an emergency?

plucky flax
#

Does this work on specials too?

summer prairie
#

It doesn't

olive ember
#

force push like the ability or the sword

plucky flax
#

Damn that sucks.

silent chasm
summer prairie
#

Shriek is for triggering AB at high peril and occasionally peril management and stagger

silent chasm
#

AB?

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I understand the other things

willow escarp
#

you can also knock dogs off of people through walls and in other rooms

summer prairie
#

Creeping flames

willow escarp
#

before this update it was psykers only ult ability

silent chasm
#

I'm apparently supposed to use it to knock seven fucks into a hole at the same time for a penance?

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but it... they don't move when you use it. it feels bad compared to the literal sword push for that

olive ember
olive ember
silent chasm
#

this may explain things

olive ember
#

its been like that for a while I believe

silent chasm
#

okii

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because when I use it the enemies look at me like "girl wtf" and then try and overhead me basically

olive ember
#

its basically super utility

silent chasm
#

I'll probably pair it with Smite for that penance and then swap back to my Ward of Dawn because i enjoy that

olive ember
#

you can use it as a stagger/CC , you can use it to quell peril

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its also the only way psyker can get out of their "im exploding" animation

silent chasm
#

I make a Friend Dome that gives you shields and i can lightning out of it.

silent chasm
queen fog
#

they dont like bubbles

olive ember
tribal radish
#

Hi, I just got the game and was going through classes, can anyone tell me what this ability does?

olive ember
#

and with how they reworked AB, its now also based on peril

willow escarp
#

yeah saving yourself from exploding was always a big part of the shout lol. for stagger I mostly only used it to stop bombers/trappers/dogs/flamers from doing their thing

olive ember
tribal radish
#

ooh

olive ember
#

should be this but the downgraded version you get at low levels

tribal radish
#

Is psyker a fun intro class? Kinda stuck between this and vet

olive ember
#

I believe you just don't have the peril quelling? but im not sure

willow escarp
languid tusk
olive ember
#

uhh I can't really say much about that since I've been playing since launch

languid tusk
#

mauler oneshot without crit, crusher oneshot with crit lol

olive ember
#

so my classes were literally all 30 before the class rework happened

olive ember
#

its just at low level they downgraded the ability to a "basic version" and now you can choose to spec into the "upgraded version" or replace it with one of the other two abilities

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if you completely invest into the push it basically quells 50% peril, gives a 25% peril res, and also gives 6 stacks of fire

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tbh idk how good those are so I'm still debating keeping em

plucky flax
olive ember
#

I just always go for the two shot tho tbh

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safer and more convenient

#

one stab while they charge you and another when they miss

idle bay
#

if only Craft rework was next. Hardon bricked all my toughness curios (not even one with 1 out of 3 good perks) and made me blew 20k plasteel on it.... Great πŸ™‚

olive ember
#

vs "do I hit the tiny af head and will the game choose to not crit"

plucky flax
#

RIP cleave damage whatthefuck_heresy

idle bay
#

But poke is great. right ? πŸ™‚

plucky flax
#

Yeah I horde clear with assail anyway.

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The poky stick and voidstrike are back up weapons. whatthefuck_heresy

idle bay
#

Freindly Ogryn on team is best backup weapon πŸ™‚

true lake
#

with that low of cleave damage idk if it will be as good against armor

olive ember
#

well none of the blitzes are good for the penance but eh. smite locks enemies in place instead of grouping em up

true lake
#

which penance? cliffhanger?

olive ember
#

yeah

plucky flax
#

I am not hitting 2 targets with the heavies.

olive ember
#

Just take kinetic deflection, wait near that cliff spot thing for a horde, and then press F

#

kinetic deflection also naturally builds up peril

#

so your F will actually push

true lake
#

what I personally did for cliffhanger all the way back before the penance got nerfed was abuse the map where you have the two skinny bridges leading up to the area you have to use the interrogator on (I'm bad at mission names)

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the enemies group themselves up on the bridge easily

#

also that one mission with the big open furnace area is a good spot too, lots of open areas you can easily push them into the lava at

idle bay
#

Was 20 enemies to push initialy ?

true lake
#

it was some higher number, was pretty hard lol

silent chasm
idle bay
#

There was one specific spot that made that trivial πŸ™‚

silent chasm
#

suppose I could use brain burst and just hold it tho

olive ember
#

just use kinetic deflection imo

true lake
#

trauma staff secondary is pretty good at herding enemies along a bit if needed

olive ember
#

the "block uses peril instead of stamina"

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so you just hold block and let the horde group up, they smack you which naturally builds up peril

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and then once you have enough enemies press F

#

i mean the video is a good showcase

true lake
#

yeah that video is the map I was talking about

queen fog
true lake
#

those bridges are great spots to push them off at

idle bay
#

You can also build up peril fast by powering up Force sword multiple times

urban dove
#

What's our best non dueling sword? Like our best force sword?

olive ember
#

theres also this one as well from even further back

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which you can do solo

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cuz you don't need to get to the end

queen fog
olive ember
#

Im not too familiar with them tbh but from what I can tell mk 4 is the best on rn

#

cuz its heavies are just double stabs that both do stupid damage

#

liek 3 shot crusher damage and the ability to one shot mutants

urban dove
#

The only time I really pull out the sword unless I'm max peril and surrounded. So I prefer as much cleave as possible. So the Ibbis ?

olive ember
#

all without having to do the whole slaughterer stacking and peril edging with a deimos slaughterer + unstable power FS

true lake
#

I put deflector tbh instead of unstable power

#

deflector has helped me a lot

olive ember
#

since illisi's strongest option for horde clear is its special attack which costs peril

silent chasm
true lake
#

devils claw has some good uses just people don't like to look at it much

worn cypress
#

is devils claw good now?

shell torrent
#

Claw does almost 2k dmg on parry

olive ember
#

mk 1 or mk 4

worn cypress
#

lmao what

olive ember
#

apparently mk 7 is still kinda mid

shell torrent
#

Mk1 for cleave or Mk4 for strikedown heavy

true lake
#

mk7 is the mid one don't grab it

radiant jasper
#

what does everyone look for in a curio?

urban dove
#

So illis is best force sword

olive ember
#

Illisi is probably still the best force sword in general

true lake
#

personally health and wounds mainly on curios due to how easy toughness is to upkeep in this update

olive ember
#

Deimos has better single target

urban dove
#

I run 1 wound curiio one Hp and 1 toughness

true lake
#

I prefer deimos because it's fun watching the raid boss health bar deplete in seconds

olive ember
#

2 hp and 1 stam is what I run

urban dove
#

The secondary stats I look for Cooldown and stuff like that

queen fog
olive ember
#

But yeah duelling sword does more damage than deimos iirc so you guys could prob try it out

urban dove
#

I mean it's over if they add like a force greatsword or a force battle axe

#

Force 2hander

olive ember
#

Force halberd is an in universe weapon

urban dove
#

I'm down for that too

queen fog
#

still got the other 2

true lake
urban dove
#

Force dagger would be cool too

true lake
#

I thought it would look cool with the trader hat and a big iron

urban dove
#

Lol

true lake
#

just need to get the right blessings on it

#

but been low on plasteel

limber heath
#

Aren't we all

#

FS makes the plasteel:diam ratio 1:2 for gathering and then 2:1 for crafting

true lake
#

idk why but after this patch plasteel has been hard to maintain

teal needle
#

I am starting to dread seeing psykers in a5s and a maelstroms, especially if they bring shards lmao

olive ember
#

There’s a bunch of non psyker players playing psyker solely for shards yeah

#

Tho tbh half of me thinks these guys would suck with any class they play with

#

Like dying to poxwalkers on psyker isn’t any different from dying to poxwalkers on vet or zealot etc.

velvet crescent
#

i tried assail

Aint feeling it, going back to brain burst

true lake
#

I'm likely going to switch my shard build to use warp siphon instead because I don't want to have my blitz be my crutch, it doesn't make me any better at the game

olive ember
#

Assail is weird in that the entire premise is just to spam the shit out of em

edgy finch
#

so after they fix the smite bug it's gonna be pretty mid no? and im assuming assail will get nerfed. but even after that it feels like all the staves are in a great spot

olive ember
#

You aren’t supposed to throw one you are supposed to throw like atleast 2-3 typically I do like 6 at a time

true lake
#

and assail is still good as a quick way to get rid of some of a horde or maybe pox hound modifier

olive ember
velvet crescent
#

also is venting shriek bugged?

true lake
#

I mean smite is still good, just the whole infinite firing needs fixed

velvet crescent
#

I vent like
No peril

olive ember
velvet crescent
olive ember
true lake
#

venting shriek works fine for me

velvet crescent
#

Upgraded

olive ember
#

Well I’m assuming venting shriek means upgraded version

velvet crescent
#

Yeah

olive ember
#

Dunno then cuz it works fine for me

#

are you channeling anything while using it

#

It should still work but idk

true lake
#

do you have any talents or other abilities that are generating peril?

#

or channeling something yeah

raw tangle
#

Guys would you want more damage or critical bonus on a sure staff or di those not matter πŸ˜…

true lake
#

mainly damage and crit bonus helps but doesn't need to be super high

#

since surge is now accustomed to damage and not horde stunning

velvet crescent
#

.

#

oh my god

#

i never upgraded to venting shriek

true lake
#

oh lol

velvet crescent
#

no wonder it wasn't working

true lake
#

that would be your issue then

raw tangle
#

Got it i git two staff rn both have chare rate quell an resistance at 70+ and one has 80 damage and the other has 80 crit bo@true lake

true lake
#

share pics

#

idk what the dump stats are on surge, I never ran one

cold oasis
#

quell rate>quell resistance imho

olive ember
#

Charge rate probably still

#

But eh

wicked badge
#

Oi lads, i just got my first flammetrower staff whatever its called... And Isn't the void strike staff thing better ?

olive ember
#

Tbh surge is still one of those staffs you just use out the gate and it’s aight

olive ember
velvet crescent
cold oasis
wicked badge
olive ember
#

You’re entitled to it

true lake
#

it just does the push

wicked badge
raw tangle
true lake
#

damn both those staffs are super close lol

cold oasis
#

2 easy

true lake
#

I would say use both in the psykanium and see which one you prefer

worn cypress
#

I havent managed to figure out a purg build I like in this patch tho, save for just emulating the old

true lake
#

they should be basically the same tho

velvet crescent
#

also

mfw the two vets constantly pick one to split off entirely

true lake
#

better yet just upgrade both of them and rip whatever blessings from one

velvet crescent
#

i was facepalming each time

#

hell even the other psyker wasn't innocent

#

"dude why are you out there"
"get in the elevator ffs"

raw tangle
#

@true lake thanks and will do both are better than my current surge so irs a win either way lol

limber heath
#

what does duelling want besides uncanny?

jaunty moth
#

what should i roll?

true lake
#

mk1 is the horde cleave one right?

lyric burrow
#

no thats mk4 last i knew

#

unless that changed this patch

worn cypress
jaunty moth
#

mk1 good hord cleve

true lake
#

savage sweep probably good to keep if it's the crowd control sword

#

honestly shred might pair well too if chained hit counts hits in general and not on same target

lyric burrow
#

also are the best blessings for Dclaw still rampage/SS or no

jaunty moth
#

i was thinking of making it a crit sword for mt assail build

raw token
#

what are the best blessings for purg staff?

#

well actually what are the 3 tier 4s

#

idek what they are

true lake
#

nexus and flurry is what i prefer on it

#

focused channeling helps sometimes

raw token
#

oh ok

true lake
#

idk what else people put on theirs

raw token
#

well theres only 3 tier 4 blessings available

#

so prolly just nexus and flurry

olive ember
cursive solar
#

new psyker here, assail seems op?

olive ember
#

It is indeed

left turtle
#

New psyker, ive literally not seen anyone using Brain burst since the class overhaul, is it just bad now compared to how busted Assail is?

#

cause, i just started playing psyker like, an hour ago, and i like the ability to just look at someone and go:

cursive solar
#

what sucks most is the "UNLIMITED POWAAA"

#

no damage and fills the % thing fast

left turtle
#

its more supportive from what ive seen cause it staggers pretty much everything

#

a buddy of mine runs smite and he just runs up to a crowd of maulers and ogryns and just stunlocks them while we murderize the crowd

woeful patio
#

BB is still the specialist killer, Smite is more for utility, and Assail is definitely due to be tuned soon

#

But gods it’s so cool

last sleet
#

Is there a good resource for new builds? I've been kinda just typing "psyker build" into youtube and seen what comes up. Do we have something like diablos maxroll but for Darktide?

turbid folio
#

anyone got a build suggestion for a krieg psyker?

left turtle
#

my zealot turned out nasty

woeful patio
#

Make your own build, something you like

#

It’s pretty intuitive

left turtle
#

honestly, yeah i think youll enjoy it more when you put it together yourself

last sleet
woeful patio
#

Just use Assail then

spare owl
#

Throw thy Shards till the heretic’s cease to exist

last sleet
#

Can I yell SAIL while throwing assail?

spare owl
#

πŸ˜‚ definitely

wicked badge
#

Damn

left turtle
#

wouldent be the weirdest thing psykers cry out

terse dew
#

anyone tryed full crit build on the right of the tree with shards ?

spare owl
#

Facts

wicked badge
#

I just killed a boss by exploding myself

#

On accident*

left turtle
#

the boss is dead and theres one less warp witch

#

win win

covert saffron
#

What should I replace the sustained fire with?

true lake
#

nexus probably

celest hedge
#

warp nexus I feel is always nice to get

spare owl
#

^

true lake
#

crits on that go insane

covert saffron
#

sounds good ty

celest hedge
#

i'm enjoying empowered BB alot but something about it felt off, didn't raelize that the gurenteed charge was only on elites, not elites and specials

wicked badge
#

πŸ—Ώ

true lake
#

lol nice

#

I got that penance by blowing up some shotgunners, easier to guarantee the kill

celest hedge
#

i'm thinking of going full voidstrike build and I'm not sure how to go about that, I fee llike I should go cooldown aura and then shriek and warp charge stuff

queen fog
#

whatever enables ur ballin more go ahead

unreal wasp
#

Me just a guardsman, don't worry about it

viscid matrix
last sleet
#

Does stuff like Warp Nexus and Transfer Peril only count on attacks with that staff? Or will my assails benefit from them?

old flame
#

I dont know why people keep saying smite does no damage, specced properly it lierally deletes hordes

celest hedge
#

i figured but I just wanted to know what goes well with it, I'm just sticking with all left side but aura so I can hopefully avoid dealing with peril pretty often

viscid matrix
viscid matrix
celest hedge
#

scrier looks like something that could proabbly work on voidstrike, 20% crit combined with perfect timing seems cool, the AOE seems good for alot of kills for the peril stuff, and general damage is always good

left turtle
#

whatts the correlation of people on malice always pissing off demonhosts on purpose

viscid matrix
royal falcon
#

greetings fellow peril edgers

#

how’s it going today

left turtle
last sleet
#

If you extract a blessing once, do you have it forever, or do you need to re-extract if you apply it?

old flame
#

Im still getting speclail and elite kills with it

viscid matrix
royal falcon
left turtle
#

exactly

royal falcon
#

although I swear there’s been more daemonhost triggers and psyker explosions after this update

#

I guess more newbies are rolling in

left turtle
#

the one i just had was completely isolated

#

and the vet ran up to it, stared at it, as it stood up

#

and just laid into it

viscid matrix
#

so more likely to go boom

last sleet
#

Playing psyker is living on the edge.

upbeat parcel
#

what's the best staff for boss damage now?

viscid matrix
royal falcon
#

did someone say edge

last sleet
#

Hmm. How much more difficult is heresy than malice? Good Idea to jump into heresy quickplay?

left turtle
#

Ironically i think its easier cause you have less dipshits

last sleet
#

What if I'm the dipshit?

left turtle
#

you still have dipshits

#

but less

upbeat parcel
#

heresy is piss easy now everyone's power went up with skill trees

left turtle
#

its a bit of an adjustment though, Youll see a shit ton more armored enemies and ranged units to deal with

limber heath
#

if you rez someone with a deflector force sword out do you block bullet?

upbeat parcel
#

idk what build of psyker ur using but it's good brain burst target priority practice

viscid matrix
#

once you reach 500 for your weapons, you can comfortably do damnation and auric

viscid matrix
woeful patio
#

You can hit 500?

#

My oranges are 463

viscid matrix
#

i think its 550 for highest

#

maybe 530

limber heath
#

550 is cap

last sleet
#

Welp. I joined a strike team and we instantly lost. after I loaded in. Quick 4k Ordos and 100 plasta I guess.

old flame
#

DD looks really good fora gun build, but i heard DD doesn't work really well?

limber heath
#

120 from blerssing, 50 from per, 380 from stats

limber heath
last sleet
#

Sadly already 30. :D

left turtle
#

youre 30 and still doing malice????

woeful patio
#

Playing Malice and a meta-mancer

#

In 2023???

shell torrent
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Why do I keep getting infinite bubble resets

woeful patio
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Easy proc

viscid matrix
old flame
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whats a good gun to use as psyker besides the auto pistol

viscid matrix
shell torrent
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I had like 5 bubbles out at once 🀣

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Bubble for you and you and you

fluid knot
viscid matrix
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like i said, its bugged, and they have more than likely put 100% cooldown for warp charges when you use shield

fluid knot
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Heresy is really full of dipshits

old flame
left turtle
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iunno, without fail, demonhost gets angry EVERYTIME on malice

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rarely on heresy, for me

fluid knot
left turtle
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had 2 people fall off earlier

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Though to be fair, this week has been an all time high of people aggroing them on Damnation too

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royal falcon
fluid knot
# royal falcon What’s wrong with Heresy

The difficulty? Nothing, its just people are moving up from Malice an the enemy density is much higher, so they're easily panicked an thusly make catastrophic errors of judgement which usually ends the run

woeful patio
royal falcon
viscid matrix
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tbh if you want to avoid idiots, play auric, they avoid that cause its too hard for them

round jay
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what's the meaning of these symbol? I know when there's none it mean I never completed this mission but what about those variation

woeful patio
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Difficulty I believe

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Look at the amount of chevrons

plucky token
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When you want to complete your Psyker Penances and it forces you to use Brainburst....

exotic agate
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thats literally what Im struggling with

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Ive been at it trying to get the black pants

viscid matrix
plucky token
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I really want those head cosmetics. Brainburst is so boring though compared to Chain Lightning.

plucky token
fluid knot
viscid matrix
royal falcon
viscid matrix
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check redacted penances

fluid knot
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Haha, have fun with Malleus

plucky token
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What does Redacted Penance mean anyway? Are those penances still completable?

fluid knot
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They are, but they'er the old set, which have some really obtuse requirements to complete

viscid matrix
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yeh they just arnt the main ones anymore, wouldne be suprised if they add new ones later on too

plucky token
viscid matrix
left turtle
fluid knot
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Brainburst 90% of a monsters HP bar

exotic agate
fluid knot
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That one you're thinkin of is pick + mix

viscid matrix
fluid knot
exotic agate
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doing them online is such a pain

viscid matrix
fluid knot
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I dont mind helping people out with that, but it can be a tirade if all you get is Spawns

viscid matrix
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i wonder if the weakened monstrocities count

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they only have like 3k hp instead of 30k

fluid knot
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Maybe, idk, personally did it fucking eons before that modifer became a thing

viscid matrix
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same

old flame
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i guess the kantreal is better against armor than the vraks isnt it

inland ivy
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what perks/blessings should i want on a voidstrike staff?

royal falcon
viscid matrix
feral raptor
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Weird question,
Yall got any good laspistols? I am unsure what talents to run, currentl, have
10%dmg to elites
25%dmg to flak armor

And 2 blessing which, on headshot give me ranged attack invulnibitly / supression invul

viscid matrix
feral raptor
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Aight, thank you

viscid matrix
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Maniac and flak cover basicly all of the elites/specialists except snipers and the ogryns

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snipers are instant kills anyway

feral raptor
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Did not know that

woeful patio
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I get why surge is meta but voidstrike is my beloved

still zinc
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I need the last two head cosmetics and I just can't with BB now. It's horrible.

viscid matrix
woeful patio
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I love shooting big balls into groups of enemies

viscid matrix
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Void is current meta weapon for psykers, because of how powerful it is

left turtle
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whats psykers best horde clearing melee?

viscid matrix
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Illisi for hordes

feral raptor
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Its good on higher difficulties

still zinc
viscid matrix
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you basicly cant use your ability to do it

woeful patio
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Don’t they only decay one at a time now?

viscid matrix
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yes

feral raptor
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Warp charges got changed somehow, i always loose all of em for some reason

viscid matrix
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but if you use an ability it dumps them all

still zinc
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Maybe when you shriek

last sleet
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Btw have they made getting grims and such worth it? I remember when I last played they just made the run more difficult but didn't gave any real reward.

viscid matrix
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read this

woeful patio
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Your Blitz eats the charges for more whatever

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Yeah that

left turtle
viscid matrix
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you venting shriek/shield uses them all up to reduce the cooldown for them

woeful patio
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Big boy ability eats them

left turtle
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which capstones should i use if i want to build completely around BB

still zinc
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Takes notes

left turtle
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the purple passives at the end

still zinc
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One gets locked, I think

viscid matrix
naive imp
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I mean can you not stack the 2 brain burst cast reductions to have basically instant cast free peril brain bursts?

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1 is 50% reduction of peril and cast and the other is no peril and 75% less cast

viscid matrix
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tbh if you want the best BR build
you want to go with shield and warp siphon

since shield is bugged and you can keep recasting it every 10s

naive imp
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Then you just slam brain burst and then venting shriek to dump peril

feral raptor
viscid matrix
left turtle
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itll be a bit before i can experiment with them, i started my psyker about 2 hours ago or so

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