Warp Charges are bugged with dome
#psyker-class
still hearth
unique barn
dont use dome
white cedar
so that's why I don't see any "Mark"
still hearth
Actually
They're just bugged with wall
The best part is that 2x wall unbugs it
Warp Charges with Scrier's also doesn't work
stuck bridge
i meant the image i posted, but seems left is consensus
keen harbor
Since Warp Rider is bugged, you can take True Aim
white cedar
that's mean we only play 2/3 of our psyker potential lol
long wharf
Warp Rider is bugged?
keen harbor
apparently Warp Rider only does 8%
spice veldt
disrupt destiny will still mark enemies, but the bug is that marked enemies will not glow for whatever reason
unique barn
i meant the image i posted, but seems left is consensus
i mean it's the only way atm
spice veldt
so the process of killing your marked enemy is random instead of being some deterministic thing that you're aiming to do
white cedar
i meant the image i posted, but seems left is consensus
the topic gone too far lol
still hearth
so the process of killing your marked enemy is random instead of being some dete...
I really hate that all Psyker keystones are based on killing things
spice veldt
I really hate that all Psyker keystones are based on killing things
tbh, i'm kind of fine with it
psyker's neutral game just seems to be insanely strong
long wharf
Assail all but assures you get the kill
still hearth
Well I did run builds without keystones and its still fine
They keystones are actually pretty underwhelming
spice veldt
disrupt destiny is basically a map rushing keystone
but even then bruisers will spawn in events and allow you to maintain stacks
i like it so far
long wharf
... why would you not take a keystone?
still hearth
Because there's better stuff to take
spice veldt
left side?
on the right side, you'll have more than enough points to spend into your keystones
still hearth
I mean I have points
long wharf
Yeah, warp charges are still very effective
tender terrace
so glad they did this big update for me to spec my pskyer literally exactly the same as before this update
still hearth
I just found that for that build it wasn't worth it
white cedar
I saw someone pick only 1 on warp charge and go to otherthings
still hearth
Mostly because the only keystone I'd take is warp charges
spice oar
Well I did run builds without keystones and its still fine
Vanessa your wierd for a sibling ngl
still hearth
But I want to run dome
unique barn
psyker's neutral game just seems to be insanely strong
I don't see much being added by any other class atm at high diff, than just another psyker
still hearth
Vanessa your wierd for a sibling ngl
Veterans don't even have keystones
spice veldt
Vanessa your wierd for a sibling ngl
amongus
still hearth
Trying to summon Darcy I see.
spice veldt
I don't see much being added by any other class atm at high diff, than just anot...
zealot/ogryn seem pretty strong
cyan notch
who tf is dracy
tender terrace
zealot is insane now
spice veldt
are you a zealot main vanessa
still hearth
who tf is dracy
Sad about Veteran
unique barn
it really isnt
white cedar
Veterans don't even have keystones
I agree with that, vet last keystone is not worth 😂
tender terrace
they leaned way into zealot being a raging melee class and it's bonkers now
still hearth
are you a zealot main vanessa
I don't main any class, I just don't play Ogryn much
still hearth
I agree with that, vet last keystone is not worth 😂
They don't have a keystone
spice veldt
I don't main any class, I just don't play Ogryn much
i'll record that as a zealot main
still hearth
It's literally not a keystone node
unique barn
look i have all 30s, 500+ gear, psyker is S tier
white cedar
They don't have a keystone
I mean last skill on the tree
still hearth
i'll record that as a zealot main
tender terrace
pskyer always was S tier
still hearth
I mean last skill on the tree
Yeah those are Ability nodes
cyan notch
i too am a zealot main
still hearth
You can even lock out of one of the nodes by taking another for the invisibility
white cedar
my poor english ._.
still hearth
Which is hilarious
spice oar
Veterans don't even have keystones
I mean, yeah. That's cool 👌but like we do and they are fun and useful and there's no reason to not use them
unique barn
pskyer always was S tier
naw early days - SS was insane
tender terrace
i dont notice a diffy with ps but all the guns feel kinda shit now
still hearth
I mean, yeah. That's cool 👌but like we do and they are fun and useful and there...
Except that as I said I found other nodes more valuable so I took those instead
spice oar
Rlly found mind in motion more useful?
still hearth
Yeah actually
spice oar
Girl cmon now
white cedar
so much freedom in skill tree comes with infinite of argument 😂
still hearth
I just won't use warp charges with dome rn and as the game is I don't get warp charges unless I run Assail
unique barn
until damage stats come out 😮
still hearth
Because otherwise I get a Psyker with assail taking all the kills
unique barn
ya
still hearth
I obviously run it on other builds though
unique barn
i mean like dome is legit on auric
steep frost
Lmfao two psykers running EP smite is so funny
still hearth
But purgatus + smite + dome. Other than abusing dome spam its like
spice oar
until damage stats come out 😮
I don't even care about dmg run what you want but like I've got standards (who dosent pick a keystone???)
unique barn
but under that everyone is just fucking around everywhere so w/e
still hearth
Lmfao two psykers running EP smite is so funny
still hearth
I don't even care about dmg run what you want but like I've got standards (who d...
Dude people run Empowered on Smite so idk what to say
steep frost
just dodging everywhere in an attempt to maintain the charge
spice oar
Lmfao two psykers running EP smite is so funny
Shouldn'tve said that when van is here smh 
dense grove
Dude people run Empowered on Smite so idk what to say
I think people run EP on smite cause of inf bug
dense grove
otherwise I would probs agree with you
nah i dont know if i can agree on literally stunning everything but bosses and a very few other enemies for inf is bad
snow coral
yeah i run smite but quit with EP because it's boring
dense grove
boring yes bad no
snow coral
running warp siphon with shields and I'm generally always able to proc them when needed
dense grove
But to each their own :))
limber heath
i think when people say its bad they mean bad for balance not bad as in not useful but idk i'm not in their heads.
dense grove
its bad for fps if anything lmao
still hearth
It's not more useful to infinite spam than actual killing stuff
steep frost
had 2 inf smite psykers last game
What difficulty
limber heath
i can agree with that although my PC could use an update. and also yea that's fair i just personally don't like smite whatsoever because assail and bb are at least a bit interactive.
dense grove
t5
tender terrace
did they fuck with purg staff
snow coral
what GPU are you running? I have not noticed an FPS drop at all with smite
dense grove
what GPU are you running? I have not noticed an FPS drop at all with smite
RTX 3060ti
dense grove
did they fuck with purg staff
one had void and one had surge
steep frost
I'm on a steam deck and haven't seen drops from smite
snow coral
i can agree with that although my PC could use an update. and also yea that's fa...
I feel like assail and smite are both the same levels of interactive... which is point and click. At least with BB you have to try to target the specials to get them
spice veldt
what GPU are you running? I have not noticed an FPS drop at all with smite
getting close to a psyker using smite annihilates my frames
snow coral
I wonder if it's only other players that it affects?
dense grove
I'm on a steam deck and haven't seen drops from smite
this was the only time, mightve just been a hiccup from my pc and not anything aboput smite
snow coral
I've noticed a lot of smoke clouds when others do it, I don't see those when I cast it
rooms turn into raves when others are smiting
limber heath
assail benefits from aiming at head level IME which is a very small thing but makes it less boring than smite for me. at the end of the day its all personal pref
dense grove
really wanna try BB but I'm not sure how to approach it
fierce crest
No warp charge from every kill is very lame
Feels super wasteful to use it on anything common
limber heath
i don't think the idea behind bb has ever been to use it on anything common has it 
fierce crest
Warp charges were awesome
dense grove
isnt there a skill that makes BB proc randomly? Like a passive?
tender terrace
10%
fierce crest
Be able to use commons to keep them up so you could maintain your damage boost was nice
slow raven
ok jesus the maelstrom with mostly melee and only scab is maybe a bit much
fierce crest
Yeah 10% of a warp charge is definitely not worth a Bb
Also the 10% is only if there's warp fire
tender terrace
bb kill doesn't give warp charge anymore?
fierce crest
The any kill perk is like 4%
fierce crest
bb kill doesn't give warp charge anymore?
Only a lead n special
dense grove
oh right
fierce crest
Elite
tender terrace
terrible change
fierce crest
Purg staff has been the only way I can comfortably keep warp charges up
limber heath
i've only tried 1 bb build and am pretty new to psyker but i didn't find maintaining warp charges very hard except on a low int i got qp'd into, specials and elites are basically everywhere. Although I don't spam shriek so i wasn't dumping all of them away every 20 seconds either.
tender terrace
what blitz with purg staff
limber heath
if anything the real problem is getting ks'd by some guy with his wizard knives flying around
fierce crest
Yep, the fact that it has to be your kill is so lame
slow raven
thats why DD feels so annoying to run rn
fierce crest
I'm pretty sure warp fire still counts anyone's kill as long as it's your warp fire
limber heath
it would be nice if it gave you a stack if you were at like 50% of a bb charge or more on an enemy and it died
but i also suck at psyker so that's probably a skill issued opinion
i just need to target prioritize more
dense grove
if anything the real problem is getting ks'd by some guy with his wizard knives ...
My biggest problem when playing BB, I dont get to kill any specials cause they get stolen
plucky creek
What would the best curios for psyker be?
limber heath
and pray that john hellbore doesn't delete the thing i'm trying to kill from across the map
tender terrace
Purg staff has been the only way I can comfortably keep warp charges up
what blitz were you using with purg
fierce crest
Shout, cuz I went every warp fire perk
But honestly shards is probably better so you have actual long-range damage
tender terrace
yes
dense grove
you went BB with purg tho right?
limber heath
What would the best curios for psyker be?
toughness and health are both valid. i think people in this channel like health more (general consensus i saw last time it was asked), i use toughness.
subtle flame
can spite crit?
plucky creek
Ok thx!
subtle flame
smite
tender terrace
bb is fucking trash if it doesn't give you a warp charge anymore lmao
fierce crest
What would the best curios for psyker be?
I go one wound and two health
limber heath
i would honestly say you can strike a middle ground and go like HHT or something
oh yea you can also take wounds ig
i think i have a wound on right now because i'm waiting for another 17% toughness curio lol
fierce crest
bb is fucking trash if it doesn't give you a warp charge anymore lmao
Yeah, warp charge is a separate thing. Any elite or special kill gives one, then side grade perks to make it 4% for any kill or 10% for any warped fire kill
And by default it just reduces the cooldown of your ult
subtle flame
what the hell is the smite right click used for?
fierce crest
Peril reduction and damage are upgrade perks
atomic zephyr
what the hell is the smite right click used for?
Mass chain stagger
fierce crest
6 stacks is an upgrade perk
dense grove
cant you get warp charges from being in coherency with team also?
subtle flame
Mass chain stagger
can it crit?
fierce crest
cant you get warp charges from being in coherency with team also?
Yeah, I think the 4% is you or anyone elses kill
atomic zephyr
Not sure, haven’t used it much,
fierce crest
I'm not at my computer right now
atomic zephyr
Its very low damage while you hold down the right click. Until you let go. I think with psionics on, you can just hold that shit forever
dense grove
i managed to keep my charges up pretty consistently on damnation just staying close to team
fierce crest
Well now that you need to be the one who deals a finishing blow to an elite or special, it's much more important
dense grove
can it crit?
Not sure but probably? Its still an attack. I think it has like a chance to crit on any enemy every tick
fierce crest
And honestly for unarmed uncommons, shards are better than BB for getting last hits
dense grove
But dont take my word for it Nixie
fierce crest
So idk what bb is for anymore
dense grove
you can just try it out in psychanium
subtle flame
you can just try it out in psychanium
doesnt seem like it
sooo crits are useless for it. got it.
limber heath
Does the game pick a damage type when you hit an enemy, say on a scab Rager will you only get one of flak/maniac bonus or does it give you both
dense grove
So idk what bb is for anymore
i still think BB is valid with purg but it def isnt as strong as just going assail and void
limber heath
Or wait, scab ragers are flak right
subtle flame
is assail and void just the best option?
dense grove
is assail and void just the best option?
Play what you find fun
you can make almost anything work
limber heath
is assail and void just the best option?
Easiest probably, all of them are viable
subtle flame
Play what you find fun
i just think brain blast sucks and i havent got the flame staff yet
dense grove
well maybe not on auric t5 but
dense grove
*i just think brain blast sucks and i havent got the flame staff yet*
I played smite and void until i got to 30, now im trying out a bunch of different playstyles and builds
atomic zephyr
So idk what bb is for anymore
Boss maybe?
dense grove
I played smite cause i found the playstyle fun and it worked on damnation so just play whatever you find fun and engaging, otherwise youll just burnout
limber heath
I definitely get more damage using assail than BB but BB is fine when you already have a lot of horde clear on the team. Good for picking off distant enemies and basically oneshots everything but big lads
subtle flame
I played smite cause i found the playstyle fun and it worked on damnation so jus...
only issue is, is that 2 of my friends play ogrin so i rarely need to stun things lol
hasty jolt
i find the assail shard miss alot. is there a range to use them?
dense grove
only issue is, is that 2 of my friends play ogrin so i rarely need to stun thing...
Then try out BB or assail, anything is valid. Or stay on smite, help your friends CC so enemies are easy to pick off
limber heath
i find the assail shard miss alot. is there a range to use them?
Aim at the enemy you want to die's head. They're kind of like laser guided missiles with a bit of their own self targetting
dense grove
i find the assail shard miss alot. is there a range to use them?
Shards go where youre pointing your mouse
subtle flame
is there reason to sears aura for yourself?
limber heath
Like if there's a big horde in front of you you can just throw a bunch in and they'll do work, but if you're trying to pick an enemy out of a group you need a modicum of aim, or right click
hasty jolt
Like if there's a big horde in front of you you can just throw a bunch in and th...
yeah i try to right click if im targeting specials. but doesnt one shot 😦
limber heath
It doesn't oneshot
dense grove
just spam and aim at the enemy you wanna pick off, worked for me
fierce crest
Honestly, the chain headshot into crit talent is really good for shards
limber heath
The ability is designed to be spammed basically
fierce crest
Cuz the crit shard crits on every hit
In the shards aim for heads anyway
So like every fourth shard crits everything it hits
hasty jolt
is purgatus staff good for t4?
cyan notch
sure
wet lodge
does anyone know if psychic abilities count as ranged damage, wondering if they get buffed by the perks that buff ranged damage by 5%
primal plume
its so weird seeing surge actually doing damage
subtle flame
does the fire staff work for soulblaze builds?
neat summit
does the fire staff work for soulblaze builds?
Yes
neat summit
does anyone know if psychic abilities count as ranged damage, wondering if they ...
No
subtle flame
does higher difficulty actually give you more stuff?
limber heath
thoughts/suggestions? there's a few things i'm up in the air on but wanted second opinion
dense grove
I go warp charges for assail, I felt like EP was underwhelming
limber heath
i like EP but understandable, i have only tried warp for bb and smite
subtle flame
is dome shield just really good?
dense grove
Works wonders imo
dense grove
is dome shield just really good?
yes
limber heath
how do you build warp keystone tree
dense grove
especially with warp charges which makes it so you can have basically infinite uptime on shield
subtle flame
once i get the fire staff i was gonna mess with venting shriek for soulblaze
dense grove
how do you build warp keystone tree
give me a sec
rigid blade
What’s the best staff for Elites (and hopefully bosses)
limber heath
i did this but not sure
dense grove
also i find melee is overwhelmingly better dps than any staff
rigid blade
Shard is my blitz.
rigid blade
Aight, thanks.
limber heath
also how do i get to true aim, i feel liek soulstealer is too big to ditch but its the only node i can really lose
limber heath
any disrupt destiny gamers?
its bugged right now so not many people use it and i don't thinkanyone likes it
conceptually it seems cool though
dense grove
ornate hamlet
holy shit dude assail is so busted
fresh reef
its bugged right now so not many people use it and i don't thinkanyone likes it ...
bugged how?
dense grove
this is my infinite shield buiöd
limber heath
ahh no perilous combustion i see
limber heath
bugged how?
well idk if bugged but i've heard the marks jump around in a rather scuffed manner
dense grove
with mk iv duelling sword and surge staff
ornate hamlet
auto homing, high damage, piercing projectile
it just does everything for you lmao
rigid blade
What’s the best melee for bosses?
dense grove
What’s the best melee for bosses?
dont really know what most people feel like is best but i use mk IV or mk V duelling sword
rigid blade
I see, aight.
limber heath
ight i'll try this, cool. only a few nodes off from what i had in mind. i guess you don't find true aim worth it? i have mixed feelings about it
dense grove
Nah not really
copper torrent
what does a god roll mk IV duelling sword look like?
dense grove
i dont lose much by loosing that node
subtle flame
what is considered a "warp attack"
dense grove
blitz, probably also venting shriek, dont know about staves though so ill say maybe on those
viscid matrix
oof just got a Vraks with amazing stats, and then the blessings and perks all rolled trash
wonder how good/bad the stagger is
subtle flame
oof just got a Vraks with amazing stats, and then the blessings and perks all ro...
is that gun good?
viscid matrix
is that gun good?
for a gunker yes
subtle flame
for a gunker yes
ah, im trying to make a herratic flame purging build
viscid matrix
it can 1 clip plague ogryn with all headshots with the right blessings
wooden tulip
Does anyone happen to know what works well with Brain Blast? I simply don't wish to use Assail in principle, because I believe it is making things less fun for my friends since I tend to just delete hordes before they even aggro. Also, thoughts on Purgatus staff?
viscid matrix
Does anyone happen to know what works well with Brain Blast? I simply don't wish...
i only take assail on assail builds, otherwise i take BR or Smite
viscid matrix
ah, im trying to make a herratic flame purging build
here is my purgatus build
wooden tulip
Is the Smite bug something you have to spec into? I don't really even know what it is.
subtle flame
here is my purgatus build
that was LITERALLY what i was gonna use when i get high enough ❤️
viscid matrix
Is the Smite bug something you have to spec into? I don't really even know what ...
Smite is a cc tool, its best used to lockdown a group of enemies so your allies can take them out
dense grove
Is the Smite bug something you have to spec into? I don't really even know what ...
Yes, its the last keystone
subtle flame
here is my purgatus build
how is your screen zoomed out?
shadow geyser
here is my purgatus build
Why is it condensed like a can of soup
viscid matrix
how is your screen zoomed out?
viscid matrix
Why is it condensed like a can of soup
check the above link
wooden tulip
Yes, its the last keystone
The purples? As in, disrupt destiny? Or the Blitz modification?
tender terrace
here is my purgatus build
in fire better than vamp tho?
viscid matrix
in fire better than vamp tho?
if you are lighting everything on fire, than you get warp charges constantly
cause it only matters that they die when on fire
dense grove
The purples? As in, disrupt destiny? Or the Blitz modification?
The purples yes, EP, the middle one
wooden tulip
Cool, just wanted to avoid it, not much a fan of exploits and the like
tender terrace
if you are lighting everything on fire, than you get warp charges constantly
cau...
as long as they have the debuff it triggers?
wooden tulip
Ty
viscid matrix
as long as they have the debuff it triggers?
yep
not sure why fatshark doesnt just change the tooltip to say as much tho
tender terrace
well thats fatshark for you
royal falcon
hello siblings how goes the peril
tender terrace
and i guess all the burn crits count for the crit shits right
subtle flame
hello siblings how goes the peril
mindnumbingly unfathomable
viscid matrix
and i guess all the burn crits count for the crit shits right
when you crit with purga staff, it applies double stacks
royal falcon
mindnumbingly unfathomable
some tylenol oughta fix that
viscid matrix
hello siblings how goes the peril
im constantly edging to hear what the demons want to tell me
midnight kiln
Lightning storm also affect Surge, but does Enfeeble also affect Surge?
stuck bridge
howre people enjoying the mk4 dueling sword this patch
fresh crater
think i already saw the answer but whats the "best" melee weapon for psyker
viscid matrix
Lightning storm also affect Surge, but does Enfeeble also affect Surge?
not 100% sure, but it does boost everyone elses damage against the targets that you lock down
viscid matrix
think i already saw the answer but whats the "best" melee weapon for psyker
depends on what you want your melee weapon for
if you want to horde clear, Illisi
if you want to kill a single target, Deimos/dueling sword
if you want to dodge around and apply bleed stacks, dagger
manic halo
hey psykers
limpid mica
Does smite not cause peril to charge when you have Empowered Psionics up? I tried checking mid match and it seems that when you have a charge of EP that it consistently doesn't build peril, even though it isn't listed as a feature
manic halo
fresh crater
i tend to only use melee to clear stuff that gets right on top of me
viscid matrix
Does smite not cause peril to charge when you have Empowered Psionics up? I trie...
its either a bug, or intended 😄
limpid mica
its either a bug, or intended 😄
Secret intended feature :)
fresh crater
its a last resort weapon after my staff and blitz
royal falcon
eerrmmmm ahcktually we’re already one with the warp
royal falcon
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-101317752192...
psykers when they get their hands on assail
manic halo
psyker loser blew up reading that
viscid matrix
its a last resort weapon after my staff and blitz
if its alot of trash mobs, than illisi can do it
if its usualy maulers/crushers or ragers, and its only 1 or 2, Dueling sword has mobility and single target damage, deimos has single target damage while also having the blessing deflector to block gunners
shadow geyser
if its alot of trash mobs, than illisi can do it
if its usualy maulers/crushers...
Smite is neato for cc
fresh crater
well i already use the illisi so ive tried that ill have to give the dueling sword a shot
viscid matrix
Smite is neato for cc
its very good for that, nothing else can cc a room like it can
shadow geyser
smite stun locking everything
atomic zephyr
smite stun locking everything
underrated af
fresh crater
thanks by the way @viscid matrix
royal falcon
mutant stun sound
limber heath
so this is finenow right?
i wish you could view the available blessings when you rebless i hardly know whats available for this shiut
unique barn
no shit
staff doesnt matter much atm though man
i was gonna millionaire my surge but why bother
limber heath
i assume low finesse bricks this
whoever told me to swap to warp assail btw thank you, idk if its better but its definitely more fun
whole oxide
I wouldn't say its bricked, just not ideal
limber heath
cleave is dump right?
limber heath
4 does
whole oxide
cleave is the dumpstat, yes
'cos the difference it actually makes to cleaving is tiny
open crag
https://i.gyazo.com/f00383fc07742940231b23aeec305c90.jpg is this worth picking up as a fresh 30 psyker?
whole oxide
yes, just for Uncanny IV, which is by far the best DS blessing
atomic zephyr
https://i.gyazo.com/f00383fc07742940231b23aeec305c90.jpg is this worth picking u...
yes, the dmg may not be in the 70's but that DS rocks.
white sigil
guys i think i made the sexiest smite build
so far this build has been keeping my entire team walking through damnation like a cake walk
and when i randomly get 100% warp resistance a horde doesnt stand a chance
full bane
Don’t let vet chat hear you say that
limber heath
didn't dclaw get buffed a bit
full bane
didn't dclaw get buffed a bit
It did
limber heath
operative bound
full bane
It’s parry is absolutely cracked rn
limber heath
and by extension weapon (type) bound
full bane
Devils claw parry colorized
limber heath
read weapon name and if the words after the MK# don't match blessings won't be shared
full bane
You can parry anything up to crushers, not sure about monsters because I don’t run claw
bold flint
you should be able to
limber heath
including crushers or just up to? i assume you can't parry the overhead from them
limber heath
huh
calm pewter
on replenish 15 percent toughness on warp attack kill does that mean if i kill with an assail missile the passive will proc?
bold flint
on replenish 15 percent toughness on warp attack kill does that mean if i kill w...
basically anything that generates peril should be a warp attack im fairly sure
so it should work
limber heath
yea assail is warp attacks. im curious now whether empowered force sword attacks trigger it
copper torrent
What perks for mk IV duelling?
harsh urchin
yea assail is warp attacks. im curious now whether empowered force sword attacks...
Yes
subtle flame
here is my purgatus build
what does the staff you use look like?
calm pewter
this tanky shield build is gonna be amazing
fierce crest
I bet shards synergize with shotguns nicely
Need to try that
And if you can time the guaranteed crit built up with shards
Hit the big boom
keen harbor
I build a vet for assail voidstrike shield meta and all I get are surge smite psykers 
viscid matrix
what does the staff you use look like?
when i play burn build, its this
subtle flame
when i play burn build, its this
how does earning blessing work?
viscid matrix
how does earning blessing work?
it sacrifices the weapon to put the blessing in the book, so you can put that blessing on any other weapon of the same type
subtle flame
it sacrifices the weapon to put the blessing in the book, so you can put that bl...
only of that weapon or weapon class?
limber heath
weapon class kinda. staffs don't sahre though
viscid matrix
only of that weapon or weapon class?
weapon class, like all autoguns will use the same blessings, all dueling swords will use the same blessings
unfortunatly for staves, each stave is a differnt class
primal plume
Voidstrike and stunlock beasts of nurgle if you hit their weak point
lol, lmao even
lyric burrow
works on the other monstrosities too
open crag
what do each of the staff names do? I have trouble keeping them straight, purg = burn, force/trauma are?
lyric burrow
trauma is the circle staff you slam on the ground
open crag
oh, dont like that one, seems awkward
fast timber
do you guys prefer voidstaff or surge staff when using assails ?
lyric burrow
void is stronger atm but its mostly preference
open crag
surge is lighting?
fast timber
surge is lighting?
yeah
lyric burrow
void is the better pairing atm for anti armor
open crag
lightning*
fast timber
next question then...what would be a good voidstaff to look out for on a fresh 30 ?
lyric burrow
surge/warp nexus is good
but the base staff is good so if you get a good roll it will do well till you can get the blessings
open crag
what 3 blessings should I go for on curios for a psyker?
lyric burrow
gunner resist/sniper resist/+ health or toughness/toughness regen are all good
plush elm
Trying out Psyker for the first time
open crag
right right, I mean like the primary stat?
subtle flame
are staffs counted as warp damage?
lyric burrow
yes
lyric burrow
if it generates peril it is a warp attack
whole oxide
operative bound
this isn't true lol
limber heath
is it not 👀
whole oxide
they are account bound
olive ember
it isn't operative bound
its account bound but it is based off weapon family/type
so for example Infernus on an infantry lasgun won't be accessible to a helbore lasgun or a recon lasgun, nor the las pistol
but it is accessible to all infantry lasguns across all classes, so mg 12, mg Ia, mg IV, etc. etc.
fringe garden
In short: It's a mildly annoying system.
olive ember
do note for psykers that each staff is considered its own weapon family
fringe garden
It would be interesting to get different marks of each staff type with minor differences between them for variety
olive ember
but hey if you for wte reason want to run a vraks 3 gun psyker build and you've been rolling vraks 3's on vet then congrats
you are in luck
limber heath
mb i could've sworn i'd gotten a blessing off of a chain sword and it didn't appear for chainswords on another char i had
maybe i took it off an evi
full atlas
dont wanna use a gun but...
last sleet
So, I'm trying to jump in with an assail build (with surge force staff in the back hand) because it seems like assail is the least gear requiring. What's the general gameplay? am I supposed to just spam left click? Hold right click? Keep F ability for emergency quells? What's the general gameplay loop?
(also what do I want on curios?)
unreal tapir
which staff is best for melting tanky specials?
steep obsidian
Man, I been trying out smite and it is so good. Stun lock entire hoards as your teammates cut through them.
My friends are like, "this is going to get nerfed"
fast timber
Man, I been trying out smite and it is so good. Stun lock entire hoards as your ...
yeah its pretty crazy
turns things that would be scary into a joke
wooden flare
Psyker mains are cool, until they start using that stupid Yondu arrow thing
That thing is stupid and has stolen kills from me I needed to live or keep a buff going
unreal tapir
w assail
fringe garden
Even as a Psyker I dislike assail
keen harbor
So, I'm trying to jump in with an assail build (with surge force staff in the ba...
you spam left click into hordes. the shards follow your pointer, so you can easily chain it into elites as well. You use right click when the target is near the 50m limit of the shards.
There's almost no downtime to use another weapon, so shield or vent is prefered
whole oxide
So, I'm trying to jump in with an assail build (with surge force staff in the ba...
Assail is a general-purpose tool for dealing with smaller stuff, you can spam it against anything non-elite. left click and right click do same damage, one is faster casting, one is more accurate
steep obsidian
Yeah. Then you stack them with all the passives that boost warp damage and your smite are dropping entire hoards when you have all the stacks proc'd with smite
keen harbor
assail is too good against elites. like 3 shards will drop most of them on damnation
last sleet
you spam left click into hordes. the shards follow your pointer, so you can easi...
Shield?
last sleet
Ah. Don't use that, currently.
keen harbor
The issue with vent + assail, is that you will have a lot of time with no shards in inventory
last sleet
Yeah, I was gonna ask, what do I do when I spammed out all my shards?
keen harbor
use your staff
Even without vent, you can spam 10 shards and do 1-2 charged voidstrike shots, and you won't max out peril, once you get Empowerd Psyonics or Warp Siphon
timid sphinx
Staffs are for losers real psykers cast gun
keen harbor
I think you can maybe get 2-4 surge staff shots off
timid sphinx
😎
last sleet
As for the curios thing, any specifc stats I should look out for on curios?
timid sphinx
^^ wanted to know this too
keen harbor
For curios, it's down to prefernce. I pack +20%HP, +1 wound, and +3 stamina
whole oxide
As for the curios thing, any specifc stats I should look out for on curios?
health and toughness are both good, a single stamina one can be nice too, don't go for wounds if possible
last sleet
No wounds?
keen harbor
Wounds make sense in this patch though. There are enough support skills to make an opening so you can revive
whole oxide
take one wound if you really must, more than one is gimping yourself
timid sphinx
Is it just me or is the shield bubble super super useful
fringe tangle
Am I crazy or does it seem like this feat spawns in enemies for you to kill. Like sometimes a marked enemy just seems to materialize out of thin air.
keen harbor
no, the spawn in bug has been around for a while now
last sleet
I see finding high ilvl in the shop is still difficult.
timid sphinx
Doesn't it order from highest to lowest in the shop
whole oxide
I see finding high ilvl in the shop is still difficult.
359 can be perfectly good, don't fixate on the overall rating
a 350 with good stat distribution is better than 380 with bad distribution
timid sphinx
Oh speaking of bug have any of y'all that used the krieg coat noticed that when you wind up a power attack with the claw sword your left arm floats in front of you? (At sorta high fov)
last sleet
I have no Idea how I got those back in the day. :D
timid sphinx
Is that a normal thing or is it coat specific
Highest level weapon i have is like 503 on zealot
last sleet
Oh wait, that's not the base level. Duh.
whole oxide
again, the rating doesn't really mean anything, a 530 can be garbage, a 450 can be great
fierce crest
I rolled a bunch of axes the other day and the best one was like 3rd highest
And the second best one was in the lower half
last sleet
I see they changed quickplay to give extra resources.
fierce crest
It's done that for a bit
last sleet
What's auric?
whole oxide
auric is just harder modifiers
its more for challenge, it doesn't give anything extra
keen harbor
guaranteed HISTG
last sleet
I'll do a regular to get back into it.
keen harbor
Auric is for people who are bored of regular damnation and want something different to play.
fierce crest
P sure game is harder this patch anyway
People dropping like flies in regular damnation
keen harbor
If you have competent players, a regular damnation can be a walk in the park
also helps when you have 2 assail psykers, gungryn and support zealot
sullen bobcat
People dropping like flies in regular damnation
Pretty sure that's because the game is flooded with rusty players right now
fierce crest
That would also make sense
steel sluice
how's the psyker weapon selection for damnation post patch?
keen harbor
Voidstrike Trauma Surge for normies... guns for... redacted
acoustic osprey
i use this meme sword for soulfire
fierce crest
Now that's funny
acoustic osprey
went out of my way to get the apparently only one crit chance node
sullen bobcat
i use this meme sword for soulfire
Fairly sure it only applies soul fire to the first enemy hit
fierce crest
Isn't there a simple crit chance passive in the top right
steel sluice
so say someone is a vet main playing psyker, what would be best for them?
sullen bobcat
I have that and was thoroughly disappointed
acoustic osprey
Isn't there a simple crit chance passive in the top right
no it's just toughness on crit hits and movespeed
keen harbor
voidstrike is pretty fun now
sullen bobcat
Voidsstrike is ridiculous now
plucky flax
Voidstrike is stronger than bolter or plasma. 
keen harbor
voidstrike staff, Assail+Bubble Shield+Warp Siphon for you skill tree
sullen bobcat
Tbh, the blitz on voidstrike doesn't matter right now
keen harbor
melee weapon: Illis, or Dueling Mk4 or 5
fierce crest
God I really don't like warp siphon this patch
sullen bobcat
I just run brain burst since sometimes I can't reach something
acoustic osprey
Fairly sure it only applies soul fire to the first enemy hit
won't Wildfire help proc it? it's also not my only source. i got purgutus too
steel sluice
I'm currently running brain burst, bubble shield, empowered psionics
unreal tapir
if you use assail for killing all weaker specials / hordes is there any reason not to just bring a voidstrike staff to nuke the tankier specials?
sullen bobcat
won't Wildfire help proc it? it's also not my only source. i got purgutus too
After.your special kill, you get 100% crit chance, and it literally gets applied to a single enemy ime
fierce crest
Cuz fire is neat
sullen bobcat
Really disappointed when that happened to me
plucky flax
Yeah assail for everything. Void for crusher and bulwark.
unreal tapir
thats what i figured
acoustic osprey
i'm talking about Wildfire..
fierce crest
Artillery psyker
plucky flax
Yesterday I play a round with 90% assail, 5% void and 5% sword usage.
acoustic osprey
lol Assail needs a nerf
plucky flax
Was so chill just spam left click.
fierce crest
Assail and VS seem a bit overdone rn
acoustic osprey
i'll never use the shield
fast timber
bit of a off topic question but this chat seems super helpful, i see alot of people running a while range of mods since iv came back...what are the "must have" mods in your option ?
plucky flax
Both need a nerf indeed.
fierce crest
I wish warpfire talents were more centralized
autumn smelt
ofc the one time i make a comment on someones build (saying assail isnt a good choice really for a melee scab maelstrom), i suddenly become dogshit, so i end up looking like a tool
sullen bobcat
I was with 3 zealots with my crit build surge voidstrike, and I legitimately did 600k damage while the next guy did like 300k. On top of like double the specials and elites than the next guy
fierce crest
bit of a off topic question but this chat seems super helpful, i see alot of peo...
Shards is probably the single strongest point you can spend
acoustic osprey
my ABSOLUTE must have is just Numeric UI and Hub Hotkeys
fierce crest
But the other blitzes are still fun
full egret
people really be complaigning about assail when vets have infinite ammo recon las lmao
plucky flax
Zealot needs to play very aggressively to find kills.
sullen bobcat
ofc the one time i make a comment on someones build (saying assail isnt a good c...
That's the secret. It's not about how dog shit you are on the outside, it's how dog shit you are on the inside that matters ❤️
plucky flax
But they are fast af this patch.
sullen bobcat
people really be complaigning about assail when vets have infinite ammo recon la...
Both are issues, but vet is sorta lacking in options at the moment
keen harbor
vet shout ability needs a bit of a buff, IMO
sullen bobcat
Assail is just "slap onto build. I can horde clear"
full egret
vet has pretty cool abilities, the shout can absolutely be clutch too
plucky flax
Tru. Ogryn taunt shout so much better than vet.
full egret
plus its a lotta fun bringing a multi las to a gunfight
autumn smelt
That's the secret. It's not about how dog shit you are on the outside, it's how ...
i was just trying to be helpful (since the game currently suffers from "use assail and turn brain off" atm) but i probably came off rude since i was basically telling someone what not to use
and then i go down every few seconds
sullen bobcat
At least 5 times better since the relic pulses 5 times
keen harbor
The thing is though, Shout doesn't stun lock monsters, unlike Chorus
acoustic osprey
i'd rather they use assail then die trying something else
fierce crest
Yeah but they wouldn't
keen harbor
And when you take the really clutch revive teammates upgrade, it downgrades the radius
fierce crest
Your fun doesn't trump theirs
sullen bobcat
I don't run the revive thing tbh. I'd rather pop early to prevent the down
floral cape
im lv15, whats a good gun to run with assail + scrier
sullen bobcat
Revolver or las pistol
fierce crest
Don't worry too much about buying specific guns until you're cap, try new stuff that mission rewards give you
keen harbor
yeah, and revive shout doesn't pickup players who are hanging off a ledge
autumn smelt
i'd rather they use assail then die trying something else
i mean
i only said it cuz it was a melee scab maelstrom
youre gonna regret trying to assail 3 crushers and 4 maulers walking toward you
acoustic osprey
lol shout at them to do a pull up
sullen bobcat
yeah, and revive shout doesn't pickup players who are hanging off a ledge
My gym partner is more powerful since they can motivate me to do a pull up
keen harbor
exactly
sullen bobcat
Jk I can't do un assisted pull up
acoustic osprey
just do negative rep pull ups
sullen bobcat
when you max out your machine
it's an assisted pull up machine
acoustic osprey
i'm too selfish to use a support skill
sullen bobcat
Think of it as supporting yourself
acoustic osprey
i also like to pretend i'm struggling or i can't find them when they go down
sullen bobcat
By giving other targets for the enemy to hit
acoustic osprey
well...that's one way to view it...
tough stump
is warp flame good?
sullen bobcat
It takes a bit more work but it can definitely do well
timid sphinx
Do y'all think the biolightning does too little damage or just enough considering that it stuns enemies in a chain
sullen bobcat
Left click needs more damage
acoustic osprey
i hate cc lightning. never use it
keen harbor
biolighting nukes my frame rate
fringe tangle
is warp flame good?
It's basically an infinite use flamethrower, so yes it's good.
sullen bobcat
Right click is fine since it just does ridiculous CC
keen harbor
so it does enough damage
timid sphinx
Left click needs way more damage imo
sullen bobcat
Smite burns out my retinas. That's a lot of damage
sullen bobcat
Left click needs way more damage imo
I went from 0 to 100 with just the left click and didn't even kill the scab gunner
timid sphinx
Middle final perk again
sullen bobcat
I promptly just sent back to brain burst
timid sphinx
If you proc empowered while using the biolightning
sullen bobcat
Yes infinite power
sullen bobcat
It's a bug
ornate hamlet
Check out this crit with the recon lasgun
fringe tangle
Without the broken infinite lightning bug bio does seem a bit too weak in terms of damage.
timid sphinx
Without the bug yeah i agree
sullen bobcat
The charged is fine in terms of damage for the ridiculous CC. Uncharged is a joke
timid sphinx
Imo it Really should deal a bit more damage i really
Enjoy watching enemies explode
It makes the voices quieter
sullen bobcat
Buff the left click then
timid sphinx
Yeah
sullen bobcat
Right click should stay where it's at
ornate hamlet
Dont buff the left click
sullen bobcat
It just freezes a whole room if it isn't a monster
ornate hamlet
it'll make the staff redundant.
timid sphinx
Idk why the description says left click dows big damage and then it does nothing
Does*
ornate hamlet
If anything it should be a focus on a fewer targets at less peril cost.
timid sphinx
Do you think left click is bugged actually
sullen bobcat
it'll make the staff redundant.
Surge staff has much higher range
fringe tangle
I think bio should do triple damage to flak/carapace enemies since they're wearing metal armour.
ornate hamlet
Surge staff has much higher range
Doesn't feel like it, but its damage is way higher
sullen bobcat
Yeah from actually 0 damage to really good damage
fringe tangle
I like flame more then surge
clever lynx
Flame cause too many Voidstrike users atm
keen harbor
suit of metal armor would have a faraday cage effect and take no damage at all from electricity
last sleet
Oh shit, they even have loadouts. Radical.
timid sphinx
I do not use voidstrike not because it's not good but just because I'm a hater
fringe tangle
Voidstrike is crazy if used in a max crit build and the double shot blessing or soul blaze blessing.
keen harbor
I hated voidstrike and trauma before the patch, and now they feel more forgiving to play
ornate hamlet
omg I just figured out what the alternate fire for the mk IV dueling sword is for. I was wondering what it was since it did such low raw dmg and low stagger damage
last sleet
I guess "smite" is very good for higher difficulty keeping stuff CC'd?
keen harbor
Depends
ornate hamlet
It's an attack that you can make while blocking - similar to the push mechanic, you can hold block and hit (light attack) and you'll push. Similarly, you can block and hit (alternate fire) and you do a targeted attack!
fringe tangle
I guess "smite" is very good for higher difficulty keeping stuff CC'd?
If using the broken infinite lightning build, yes. Without that it can feel a bit weak at times due to the poor damage.
keen harbor
If your team is not doing damage to the CC'd targets, it's pretty useless
fringe tangle
Kind of depends if your team mates actually focus the CC'd enemies or not
keen harbor
It has the same problem surge staff had before the patch
fringe tangle
sometimes the team mates are idiots and hide from shooters that literally can't do anything
timid sphinx
Fun fact about the devil's claw sword outside of the visual bug
If you do the special counter attack on a rager in lower difficulties it deals insanely high damage to them, but I'm not sure if it's an instakill
keen harbor
Where it depends heavily on teammates who know what they are doing, and not abandoning you
naive cedar
what's the base amount of toughness for psykers now?
last sleet
So, I buy one of these, upgrade, and pray for good perks and blessings?
sharp nacelle
yes
fringe tangle
what's the base amount of toughness for psykers now?
idk, but seems pretty low. One of my builds has like 90 toughness lol.
naive cedar
did they change it with this patch?
fringe tangle
did they change it with this patch?
Because of the toughness nodes.
timid sphinx
Psykers are all twigs it makes sense...
keen harbor
they changed what attacks will deplete toughness and HP, for sure
fringe tangle
psyker doesn't get much toughness maximum, but has plenty of feats to regen toughness.
timid sphinx
Ok but like
The little crystal meth homin missiles remind me a lot of yondu's needle thing from guardians of the galaxy
Also it follows your aim slightly
sharp nacelle
timid sphinx
Exactly
fringe tangle
All of these feats can give toughness regen in different ways.
keen harbor
15% on warp kill is the best one
fringe tangle
yeah
keen harbor
charge Illis, do a heavy into a crowd
fringe tangle
also the toughness on quelling is nice
timid sphinx
Ok all i hear is about how strong or useful biolightning and the crystal meth homing missiles are but how is the head popping skill after the update
keen harbor
it's okay?
timid sphinx
I heard it's really good with empowering
fringe tangle
Ok all i hear is about how strong or useful biolightning and the crystal meth ho...
It's still good. especially with this
timid sphinx
Oh wow
fringe tangle
you can spam it on monsters or elites etc
keen harbor
yeah, you can chain like 4 BB in quick succession
atomic zephyr
is warp flame good?
really good at horde clearing, doesn't do much on the bigger mobs, you will need to carry a strong melee, deimos/dueling sword.
keen harbor
and you'll only be at 50~60 peril
fast timber
can someone send me screenshots of the ideal assail and lighting builds please ?
timid sphinx
What combat ability would be good with that
chrome patrol
Did I read it right that with the middle keystone assailant doesn't give warp at all and doesn't consume any charges?
sullen bobcat
Brain burst still works through walls, does a bit of damage, can be pre charged, and kills most specials. I think BB is fine
timid sphinx
Would that mean i get an insta bb?
chrome patrol
So I can use it infinitely?
last sleet
Aaaah, the trick with smite is to proc empowered psionics and then hold it. It seems to benefit from 100% peril cost reduction even though that's not listed.
sullen bobcat
Did I read it right that with the middle keystone assailant doesn't give warp at...
Until you run out of empowered stacks
chrome patrol
Until you run out of empowered stacks
Ah okay ^^
sullen bobcat
Aaaah, the trick with smite is to proc empowered psionics and then hold it. It s...
because it's a bug
timid sphinx
Or do the cast time reductions not step
Stack*
Because wouldn't that mean you get a -125% cast time reduction
Aka negative cast time
sullen bobcat
It's probably multiplicative and not additive
keen harbor
IDK if this is ideal for Smite+EP, but it works in damnation
timid sphinx
Aah
atomic zephyr
*because it's a bug*
assil is stronger, let them nerf that first
sullen bobcat
Or fix both in the same patch
atomic zephyr
Or fix both in the same patch
shhhhh
keen harbor
Fix Warp Rider while they are at it
timid sphinx
Imagine
Instant brain bursts for 10 seconds chain killing specials
keen harbor
And Scrier, and DD
sullen bobcat
One sounds like they fucked up an if, then statement and the other sounds like they need to adjust numbers
fringe tangle
assail does seem pretty silly rn. I see that getting hit with a nerf. Preferablely just nerf the recharge rate, so you can still spam a powerful volley if you want, but then will have to wait a little bit for the recharge. atm they recharge really quick.
sullen bobcat
I think like 8 shards and a longer cool down is enough
atomic zephyr
idk if the scraze is supposed to require me to hold down the quell constantly, but doesn't seem, that fun to use.
sullen bobcat
10 is a lot at the moment
sullen bobcat
idk if the scraze is supposed to require me to hold down the quell constantly, b...
It's really meant for a gunker
plucky flax
Fix Warp Rider while they are at it
What's wrong with it?
sullen bobcat
You're sorta empowering yourself with the warp
fringe tangle
It's one second per shard right?
something like that, yeah.
last sleet
Ah, but I guess fishing for empowered psionics is the annoying part about smite CC.
atomic zephyr
It's really meant for a gunker
then it ends too fast no?
sullen bobcat
You can also do some shenanigans with exorcist with force swords to quell during gaze
keen harbor
Warp Rider: 20% only working at 8%
DD: doesn't work
plucky flax
Nooo I'm running both on my assail build.
timid sphinx
I like warp rider with the swords
You can pretty easily spam it at 100% peril on big enemies
Just have to wait for it to go below that and redo the special attack
keen harbor
or you can use a dueling sword, since it's all sources
and you can block without exploding
keen harbor
block shove, whatever it's called
timid sphinx
The force push
keen harbor
It took some getting used to force push at without vent
sullen bobcat
I remember beta where all pushes gave peril
Good times
Ngl, I was using it to keep warp rider up at the time
fast timber
can someone send me screenshots of the ideal assail talents please ?
whole oxide
can someone send me screenshots of the ideal assail talents please ?
as long as you have Empowered Psionics, everything else is personal preference
plucky flax
I run dd with assail tho
whole oxide
I run dd with assail tho
he asked for "ideal" not "meme"
fast timber
and then the weps to use atm is either void or surge and what melee ? also what blessings are the ones to look out for please ?
plucky flax
What else to do in this game but memes
whole oxide
and then the weps to use atm is either void or surge and what melee ? also what ...
any staff is fine, void is easiest, but they're all good, melee force or duelling swords are good, devil-claw also good if you use the parry
unborn mural
does anyone knowif you have to still use brain burst to get monstronum malleus
plucky flax
Just use assail 95% of the round.
unborn mural
or can you use any of the blitz moves
whole oxide
you gonna be there a long time if you're not using brain burst
last sleet
I guess the video I saw of someone spawning attacking enemies in the meatgrinder was a mod and not a new feature?
keen harbor
Wall is fun, but Bubble has better utility
timid sphinx
The toughness regen
keen harbor
But Bubble is better with Warp Siphon
timid sphinx
Put a medpack inside bubble and it's basically a healing station
That replenishes toughness instead of the warp shite
keen harbor
IMO... the tree, outside of very specific builds would look like this
pallid smelt
what do i put on this bad boy
keen harbor
use it for assail gunker? IDK
pallid smelt
lol should i keep the 20% unyielding>? or should i swap for damage to carapace?
keen harbor
If you do unyielding+carapace, it mows down crushers
which is like the only thing assail isn't good at
potent echo
what do i put on this bad boy
Can it one shot flamers?
pallid smelt
hmm, i was gonna do maniac, unyeilding
keen harbor
who knows, it might become meta when they nerf voidstrike
pallid smelt
Can it one shot flamers?
boutta find out
potent echo
If not then maniac
keen harbor
I would keep the unyielding and surgical
potent echo
Hand cannon is great too
pallid smelt
the blessing i think are perfect
potent echo
Blessings are fine yea
pallid smelt
other than the fact that hand cannon is 3 not 4
keen harbor
it's 80% rending for the T4 hand cannon
pallid smelt
needs maniac 😦
pallid smelt
should i save other reroll for t4 hand cannon?
potent echo
Maybe you need flak to oneshot flak ragers but that's based on preference
Nah don't bother I would say
pallid smelt
dont really need flak if i have maiac
potent echo
Flak rager isn't a maniac
odd siren
Does assail suck? I don't understand how to use well
pallid smelt
assail is very very good
keen harbor
you need to aim assail
odd siren
Do you need embowered blitz key stone?
potent echo
Assail is really good right now and you need to aim it
odd siren
hmm Yeah maybe im spaming too hard
potent echo
hmm Yeah maybe im spaming too hard
Not you spam more
keen harbor
If you don't have 30pts, focus on peril reduction
potent echo
By aiming we didn't meant right click
pallid smelt
so much fun!
odd siren
Like I saw stuff about assail so I know it was supposed to be good, I just cant replicate it in my game play
short vessel
Is this thing worth it despite the damage?
odd siren
skill issue i guess
potent echo
What's going poorly when you use it?
potent echo
Is this thing worth it despite the damage?
See if you can one shot bruisers
odd siren
I just feel like shit aint dying lol
potent echo
If you can, then it's fine
odd siren
bad against trash mobs?
pallid smelt
2 assail darts clear hordes on auric 5
odd siren
i feel like when trash mobs get in melee range, I just start dying
potent echo
Yea you don't use it in melee range
spice veldt
spam them dodges
keen harbor
Assail will one shot pox walkers, but against scabs and dregs, it usually takes 2 hits
against elite scabs and dregs, it's usually 3
potent echo
You start throwing when they are far away
spice veldt
you can use it in melee as long as you dodge well
odd siren
Hm alright
potent echo
It's not a panic type of weapon
pallid smelt
assail 1 shots these guys at 5 stacks for me
potent echo
More like kill everything before they reach you
ornate hamlet
On a voidstrike crit stick, do I want surge or flurry?
Flurry makes sense for more crowd control
surge makes sense for bosses.
potent echo
assail 1 shots these guys at 5 stacks for me
Yea use it at these ranges and further, they can reach up to 50m
ornate hamlet
and smashers
odd siren
Like when I used assail in meat grinder, seemed crazy good
potent echo
What's a smasher
spice veldt
dodges give you something akin to I-frames against melee except the game checks for how close you are to attacks (i.e. the attack gets "shortened"), though this shortening is on a per-attack basis so have fun learning that
odd siren
then I get in game and It doesnt work for me
potent echo
You need to stay back and throw
odd siren
Have to figure out what im doing wrong hmm
ornate hamlet
Mario with an attitude?
spice veldt
prob have to wave your mouse around a bunch
odd siren
yeah Iguess so
spice veldt
and get the shards to lock onto enemies
keen harbor
Do what you want with your voidstrike. If it's fun and can complete missions, who cares?
potent echo
Just find some high ground and start chucking
odd siren
yeah Ill give it another go, thanks
pallid smelt
You need to stay back and throw
not me throwing in melee range all the time lol
odd siren
assail plus warp stacks? Empowered blitz keystone isnt worth?
rugged bay
Is this challenge telling me to kill myself?
potent echo
On a voidstrike crit stick, do I want surge or flurry?
Surge is most only good if you get the
Guaranteed crit talent node
Right bottom
odd siren
Is this challenge telling me to kill myself?
kinda
pallid smelt
assail plus warp stacks? Empowered blitz keystone isnt worth?
yes
pallid smelt
empowerd is bad on assail
potent echo
Empowered blitz is fine too, see a bunch of gunners? No more gunners
spice veldt
empowered is for an assail spam build
the other keystones will prob be better if you're using your other weapons in conjunction though
pallid smelt
empowered is for an assail spam build
really? i find empowerd is just not very good on assail
keen harbor
Yeah, you can use EP or Warp with assail
odd siren
Do you think purgatoras staff is good pair with assail? Or trauma?
compact cargo
Is this challenge telling me to kill myself?
yes
plush elm
Whats a good melee weapon to pair up with Smite?
spice veldt
really? i find empowerd is just not very good on assail
it triggers semi-reliably and you know is more assails for free
pallid smelt
the damage from warp siphon is just so much better for me
keen harbor
purgator staff isn't a good combo with assail, since they both do the same job
plush elm
Doing a Palpatine build
potent echo
Purgatus I run BB just to get the cooldown node
keen harbor
but if you are throwing shards, there's hardly any time to use the staff anyways
odd siren
I find staff gameplay super fun tho
pallid smelt
i run revolver assail, and just shoot ogryns and bosses with revolver
and assail everything else
rugged bay
I like the Staff because of the visual body damage it causes
potent echo
Purge assail is in a weird spot because you will have assail out all the time
odd siren
so when you say spam assail, do you litterally mean click as fast as I can?
or be more deliberate than that
potent echo
Yea
potent echo
Just start chucking
odd siren
hmmmm
potent echo
Until everything is dead
spice veldt
the fire rate is whatever
rugged bay
so when you say spam assail, do you litterally mean click as fast as I can?
No bc that’s how you do a psyker-oopsies. Aka blowing up ur head
spice veldt
just means to be using assail all the time
keen harbor
Depends on the thickness of the horde
odd siren
What melee you guys pair with it?
pallid smelt
nah i spam until im out then stab until their back
potent echo
Melee depends on your staff
pallid smelt
i pair with illisi
keen harbor
I use Illis, but that's because I don't have anything better
odd siren
yeah illisi
rugged bay
What melee you guys pair with it?
A blaze force sword. Forget the specific model name
pallid smelt
but i use gun
odd siren
seems good
potent echo
But duelling4 is like the default slot
odd siren
thanks lads
rugged bay
nah i spam until im out then stab until their back
How does ur head not go bye bye
odd siren
I also now have all psyker penances completed today >:)
rugged bay
There r three kinds tho.
pallid smelt
How does ur head not go bye bye
keen harbor
When the warp charges build up, throwing shards costs less
rugged bay
Ahhhh
odd siren
is the quelling movespeed perk worth?
potent echo
Quelling speed goated
pallid smelt
yes
pallid smelt
No it's not
could not disagree more
potent echo
And it's nice enough 🤷♂️
odd siren
I always took it in old perk system
spice veldt
it's nice but not something I would go out of my way to pick
pallid smelt
id be dead 100% more often without it
spice veldt
because it's also behind +50% coherency radius which is eh
keen harbor
It's nice to have, but the other option isn't that good anyways, so you might as well take it
potent echo
because it's also behind +50% coherency radius which is eh
You mean quell speed?
potent echo
It's free with warpcharges
spice veldt
yeah
potent echo
But on my destiny build I also take it
spice veldt
nice to have
potent echo
It's just real nice
spice veldt
but I wouldn't go out of my way to take it
odd siren
has anyone found a good purgatorus build?
pallid smelt
for me mind in motion is what lets me train hordes and bosses ez
potent echo
Take cooldowns, venting shriek
BB because it is prerequisite for cooldown node
I'll Stan for wildfire too as it actually makes a difference imo
keen harbor
Purg is full left side
potent echo
Take warpcharges and then start purging
odd siren
Yeah that makes sense
pallid smelt
i have a bb wildfire build that i just dont use lol
wanton terrace
I haven't re-built my psyker yet but they seem OP now! So many new things going on with shields and stuff.Any favored builds?
potent echo
Yea full left but take the crit node bottom right
pallid smelt
I haven't re-built my psyker yet but they seem OP now! So many new things going ...
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pallid smelt
this build
olive ember
I mean taking mind in motion isn’t as troll as before since it’s just one of 30 nodes in any build but
keen harbor
It would be nice if purg staff didn't have to take venting, but the peril buildup is too fast while using it
olive ember
They should rly just make it “you can quell while sprinting, at full speed” or wte
pallid smelt
They should rly just make it “you can quell while sprinting, at full speed” or w...
they should cuz then id be even more op
wanton terrace
this build
Thanks dude 👍
pallid smelt
np
olive ember
Lmao op is certainly a word
wanton terrace
It's this to use with a specific staff?
autumn smelt
they should cuz then id be even more op
this is such a weird statement
cuz it implies it was good in the first place
glossy hazel
Does surge work on trauma? Double explosion would be funny
pallid smelt
maybe not op tho lol
whole oxide
i mean, i guess if you're too lazy to swap to staff
autumn smelt
literally how
olive ember
Does surge work on trauma? Double explosion would be funny
Lol nope
glossy hazel
Sad
pallid smelt
literally how
at high diff it makes it super ez to train bosses and hordes so you can kill them ez-ier
autumn smelt
but you can have the same amount of mobility while quelling when dodging
pallid smelt
as well as moving into cover
pallid smelt
but you can have the same amount of mobility while quelling when dodging
kinda
autumn smelt
by the time youre dodges are running low, you would have fully quelled anyway
pallid smelt
mostly but the general increase in speed does healp
it also depends on how much peril your build generates
autumn smelt
i wanna know what kinda shit people would pull off if it was actually a speed INCREASE