It's strong even with Warp-Charges. But you need someone killing the stuff you stun
#psyker-class
lavish comet
zinc phoenix
You don’t because everything falls over after smite
So you can smite then chaingun
I’ve also been running dueling sword not because I use it for anything but because it’s fun having the cutlass
proud hinge
Apparently smite ability is just like emperor palpatine from Star wars????? 😭😂😂😂😂
misty plaza
Backshots 😏
lavish comet
I’ve also been running dueling sword not because I use it for anything but becau...
Call me old fashioned, but still use my Illisi...
warm spindle
I tried, bot that good
lavish comet
Get that shillsi out of here
Burn that Heretic!
warm spindle
Hard to get stacks off, and even if you do, you have to headshot or crit to get the value
warm spindle
It should be when you kill a special you marked, not some random one
Much like witch hunter in vermintide
zinc phoenix
But not cool heresy it’s pox walker tier heresy
hybrid solstice
DD is like you kind of have to pay attention to it a little bit and it's not worth it
zinc phoenix
More like the marked one spawns in a wall
hybrid solstice
the other two are effortless and yield stronger results
zinc phoenix
And you never kill it
wide summit
if i got 3-4 domes up at the same time, do the buffs stack?
austere estuary
whurrah, emprah gave me a disposable surge with nexus 4 on it
fervent coral
how do you make it so smite builds no peril? it has happened to me a few times and i dont know how to make it happen
i know its not empowered psionics
austere estuary
empowered psionics shouldn't but apparantly does affect it I heard, but you'd need to double check
sour bison
empowered psionics shouldn't but apparantly does affect it I heard, but you'd ne...
Working as intended
austere estuary
who can say if tooltip error or game error at this point
sour bison
Only god emperor
fervent coral
fr
austere estuary
thinking probably should swwap flurry for nexus and sprint for... something
maybe more crit
fervent coral
i like flurry
austere estuary
on purg?
fervent coral
the flame staff? yea, you can kinda spam the charged atk if you d oit right just not at 200 percent charge
100
you can get to 3 stacks and keep it there with half chargespam
austere estuary
oh it actually works now huh
oh snap, and you can actually not fully hold right click and keep it?
austere estuary
omg
can even fit a quell in and still nearly full charge and keep stacks
no wonder they nerfed the top end speed of flurry when it's this much better
fervent coral
i use that and thebrain burst, it super good
not to mention you build peril super slow co9mpatred to normal use
royal granite
what gun is good for a gunker? just mg12?
austere estuary
maybe even laspistol now... not tested yet but between run'n'gun and its high crit chance
plus its force push to maintain peril if you like
if they tuned it up enough it might be p good
alrighty
spice veldt
the headhuunters are another option since they got their finesse (crit/weakspots) buffed
wide summit
whats the dump stat on Void again?
vestal fulcrum
whats the dump stat on Void again?
You don’t really need high Quell Speed, and Warp resistance to a certain degree (but it’s nice to have it high)
wide summit
is there a specific number on damage i should be looking for
summer prairie
Here's the new terrifying barrage https://streamable.com/j5ggpk I guess you can run it with purge for even more ridiculous suppression radius
lyric burrow
Blast radius also doesnt matter a ton unless that changed in the patch
summer prairie
if purge kills trigger it that is, didn't before the patch
wide summit
i hate how it queues up moves, like if you tap twice on the darts it fires twice in a row rather than waiting for a new input
it feels sluggish
lethal folio
Only direct damage from purg triggers it.
zinc phoenix
Here's the new terrifying barrage https://streamable.com/j5ggpk I guess you can ...
Terrifying barrage on purgatus is amazing. Stops everything. I love it
feral juniper
What's the best way to level in darktide early on im at like level 12
I can also do malice difficulty with no trouble
fading shoal
Have fun 🙂
spice veldt
xp gain is relatively linear between difficulties so i'd just spam missions that you can reliably complete and in a reasonable amount of time
I'd grind linear maps
magistrati is one of the best candidates whenever that pops up
the area below the midevent shouldn't be too sketchy at malice
relay station is also another short map, though the map feels disgusting to me to play so I don't like it
fading shoal
Quickplay +20% xp bonus and +10% xp gain perks on 2 curios. 40% xp gain, no?
lyric burrow
But on malice might not be a million gunners up top
spice veldt
yeah if all the options are bad I'd just quickplay
but if there's a particularly good map, I'd queue specifically for it just for the guarantee of it
i love my assassination maps
lyric burrow
If i need plasteel is there any reason to not just quickplay damnation
Assuming im not running histg/auric
spice veldt
prolly not
lyric burrow
Cause qp might be better for consistency
spice veldt
if there's a linear map, i'd go for that but otherwise yeah
austere estuary
One reason is when you get someone who dives way ahead, gets killed at the start of the map at the first group they can find, then leaves and doesn't come back
🙂
spice veldt
darktide is my favorite 3-player coop game
austere estuary
lyric burrow
Yall get 3 players
fading shoal
If i need plasteel is there any reason to not just quickplay damnation
You get a mission involving grimoires. I don't trust random players trying to run through a mission with them.
lyric burrow
In regular damnation im ok with it
austere estuary
funnily enough my recvent experience in grim missions has been good, with people playing well enough to take them
lyric burrow
If it was auric/histg then i wouldnt trust it
spice veldt
i've not run disrupt destiny yet but I also bet that's good for just bumrushing less difficult missions
lyric burrow
Oh i should try that
spice veldt
though I've only used it in offline games so it was fine there
with no teammates to steal kills
lyric burrow
I forgot it existed till you mentioned
spice veldt
at least on paper, the bonuses seem quite good
lyric burrow
Unfort it competes with ep
spice veldt
and it gets me to a one-shot with a crit with my mk4 duellies
yeah it's unfortunate there
lyric burrow
Ep should probably get toned down though lol
spice veldt
the stacks falling off all at once also would feel quite bad
lyric burrow
Old warp charge vibes
spice veldt
😔 😔 😔 😔
i'll have to run it since it's one of the things that I don't trust other people's opinions on it
too bad I've been too lazy to test it out
lyric burrow
It sounds fine on paper
Have to test in mission tho since it doesnt work in grinder
spice veldt
healthbars seems to still crash people so i had to just turn off invis -> spawn a bruiser (or whatever enemy can be Marked) -> build up stacks -> quickly turn on invis and the default spawns for healthbars to test -> furiously cram my testing into 30 seconds
spice veldt
Are you still running trauma illisi
trauma + assail + mk4 duellies babeeeeee
summer prairie
haven't had a single crash with healthbars
lyric burrow
Never thought id see arco drop illisi
Although assail is good enough you can actually ignore illisi which is new
spice veldt
yeah
lyric burrow
Same for void
spice veldt
how the turn tables
only reason I don't run void is because I think it still doesn't protect you if you accidentally kite into a corner with 20 crushers behind you
lyric burrow
So are dueling swords really that good now?
lyric burrow
Ive never seen arco get hit by a crusher
spice veldt
Ive never seen arco get hit by a crusher
...
true
very true
absolutely true
our special killing throughput (w/ assail) is pretty good to the point where hitting a determinstic one-shot on mutants with an unstable power deimos isn't as important
and the mk4 ds heavies have better sustained DPS
lyric burrow
They full one shot now with the toughness nerfs lol
spice veldt
They full one shot now with the toughness nerfs lol
ikr
lyric burrow
Maybe ill try dueling sword again then
spice veldt
i mean
lyric burrow
Even my zealot got one shot
spice veldt
i wouldn't know about getting one-shot, of course
lyric burrow
Debating swapping to 2 toughness one stam
spice veldt
never been oneshot in my life
lyric burrow
No never
jaunty schooner
and the mk4 ds heavies have better sustained DPS
Agreed, duellies heavies are much easier to pull off so it's more consistent
spice veldt
kinetic deflection is pretty easy to get now and very likely in your build unless you've gone for venting shriek so I prob wouldn't take stam
jaunty schooner
I shamefully had some issues before with the deimos h2 if I was mid combo
New void is also much better against crushers too, so I think it's worth trying out
lavish comet
Interesting... I just joined a game right into the mission failed screen... didnt even loaded the map
cold oasis
honestly, i would pay for duelling swords on the zealot
lyric burrow
kinetic deflection is pretty easy to get now and very likely in your build unles...
Oh fair actually
Maybe ill try it on zealot then and just do 2 tough one health on psyker
fluid knot
New void is also much better against crushers too, so I think it's worth trying ...
Wouldnt get too comfy with it tho as its almost certainly gettin nerfed next patch
jaunty schooner
Wouldnt get too comfy with it tho as its almost certainly gettin nerfed next pat...
💯 Will enjoy it while it lasts 😔
fluid knot
💯 Will enjoy it while it lasts 😔
It'll probably still be good after, just not rampantly OP
ionic jolt
Does Assail count as warp attack?
analog agate
only reason I don't run void is because I think it still doesn't protect you if ...
I get that trauma can knock them down. But, atm, void will stagger them, if not just outright kill them. I do understand you love your melee though, and trauma will fill the role of ”oh shit I have to clear the area around me better” better than void. But for crushers backing you in a corner? I think void is better atm.
lyric burrow
Does Assail count as warp attack?
If it uses peril its a warp attack
jaunty schooner
It'll probably still be good after, just not rampantly OP <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
I'm not too worried. It was a leap in the right direction. Glad I could dust it off this patch
austere estuary
Trauma will deal with open spaces much better since you can always just do a "get thee gone" and point it at your feet, but in a longer range or line up, void is insane
frail inlet
anyone know of a website that has decent builds listed?
still hearth
anyone know of a website that has decent builds listed?
cold oasis
Oh so it's the warp charges making the Bubble bug out
spice veldt
I get that trauma can knock them down. But, atm, void will stagger them, if not ...
yeah esp with the stagger immunity that crushers get
cold oasis
and you having infinite of them
still hearth
and you having infinite of them
You get a free dome if you have 1 or more warp charges
sour bison
which dueling sword is better?
still hearth
So its technically not infinite
cold oasis
mk2
frail inlet
pretty damn close tho
lyric burrow
which dueling sword is better?
I think 4 and 5 are even depends on what you want but mk 2 is worse
sour bison
great
spice veldt
mk4 heavies are fairly cracked as of right now
cold oasis
mk 4 is the 3 aoe and 2 single target?
spice veldt
deimos h2
mk4 duelly heavies
The DS special also has some pretty interesting stagger
essentially on the level of CAxe special levels of stagger, though you may or may not just want to heavy most time
make sure to hit the head of crusher if you want to stagger them reliably
you can also stagger mutants mid-charge by special-ing them in the head (which doesn't do much damage but you get to style on them and show off to your teammates)
jaunty schooner
you can also stagger mutants mid-charge by special-ing them in the head (which d...
I've been having fun doing that with the stun wall 🤭
elder viper
I keep hearing duelling swords are good on psyker, though I've tried them and they seem to have rather low damage, and horde clearing seems to work better with my staff. What am I not understanding about them to make them work properly; how do I make duelling swords really shine?
Granted, I'm only level 18 on my psyker as well, and have limited experience with duelling swords
spice veldt
single-target is their stick, and it's really only the mk4 duelling sword that stands out in this regard
elder viper
Ahh, ok, so specialist clearing?
spice veldt
for some reason, the mk2 h1 (1st heavy) doesn't have the same damage as mk4's special
sniping specials and killing maulers/crushers
elder viper
Gotcha
spice veldt
voidstrike kills maulers/crushers but I find melee to be more fun and I personally don't run voidstrike so it is what it is
elder viper
And with mentioning their special, is there a certain attack pattern you want to follow with the mk4 to make them really effective?
spice veldt
Can mk4 horde clear or should i just bring purg or something
not particularly; DS lights have basically the same stats as force sword lights now but w/o the ability to reliably trigger rampage and it doesn't hit the one-shot bp on groaners/poxwalkers because of their hp buff
spice veldt
And with mentioning their special, is there a certain attack pattern you want to...
it's mostly just heavy spam for the single-target damage
spice veldt
the special is just for safety most times; for mutants, you just want to heavy and kill them
elder viper
Ohh ok
vagrant frigate
spice veldt
i'd really only special against crushers in particular
elder viper
Ohhh, that's nice!
vagrant frigate
drip good?
spice veldt
is nice
here's a demo of a duelling sword two-shotting a crusher; fuck i fucked up my copy paste
sour bison
hat
spice veldt
only two-shots crushers with a crit but it's semi-reliable since you can get 5% (base crit) + 4% (aura) + 5% (node) + 5% (perk) + 20% (shred/riposte) = 39% crit chance which is fairly decent
elder viper
only two-shots crushers with a crit but it's semi-reliable since you can get 5% ...
Ohh, ok!
sour bison
What coat is that?
left market yesterday
elder viper
https://streamable.com/77q3s6
Ok, damn, I didn't know it could two shot crushers and maulers o.o
And how did you get a plague ogryn in there? Is that just a penance I haven't finished yet?
elder viper
left market yesterday
Ohh, ok, I'll have to keep an eye out for it
The next time it shows up
spice veldt
for mk4 DS blessings, I'd run Uncanny Strike with either Shred or Riposte
For perks, I'd run some combination of Carapace/Unyielding/Maniac/Crit chance
- Carapace gives you the two-shot on crushers with a singular crit
- Unyielding is for boss DPS (which is whatever, so you may want to just pray that your teammates have boss DPS since that's one of the departments that psyker is lacking in)
- Maniac gives you a particular mutant one-shot, but that's not really important esp with Psyker's current ability to clear the other specials with Assail to make space to dunk on mutants
- Crit chance gives more reliably to get crits which help with certain BPs (the aforementioned crusher two-shot, mutant one-shot, and other one-shots on weaker enemies)
spice veldt
Ok, damn, I didn't know it could two shot crushers and maulers o.o
And how did ...
i ate the plogryn in a mission and spat him back out
it's a mod
elder viper
it's a mod
Ohh, ok
elder viper
for mk4 DS blessings, I'd run Uncanny Strike with either Shred or Riposte
For pe...
I gotcha, thanks! ^^
spice veldt
for mk4 DS blessings, I'd run Uncanny Strike with either Shred or Riposte
For pe...
I personally run +crit chance and +carapace. Not optimal since you could just run vstrike and kill crushers, instead just running +unyielding in place of +carapace for boss DPS
vagrant frigate
left market yesterday
i bought this and then got the new one the day after xd
i have to have gloves
elder viper
I personally run +crit chance and +carapace. Not optimal since you could just ru...
Fair enough!
vagrant frigate
idk i hate the normal hands
fierce crest
some talents can be gotten backwards
elder viper
I think with the bottom one, that's technically lateral instead of downward, middle is still downward, though
vagrant frigate
yeah^
fierce crest
well yes
elder viper
There are spots like that in the other class trees, too
fierce crest
thats what im saying
elder viper
Ah, ok
fierce crest
even tho its clearly downward it counts as lateral
elder viper
Apologies, then
fierce crest
top and middle looks and count as downward
bottom looks but doesnt count as downward
steel flame
Man I need at least another 400 ammo or so in my laspistol. Why does vet get to horde all the ammo pockets to himself
red wind
i really wish that warp siphon wasn't forced to have quicken
it's hard enough to maintain 6 charges as is
they should've just made it an augment lol
fierce crest
and no double charge gain either :(
magic whale
What weapons are people running or what weapons do we think are the strongest?
steel flame
At least we don't need warp charges to do literally everything anymore
keen harbor
voidstrike assail shield
steel flame
What weapons are people running or what weapons do we think are the strongest?
Force swords still super strong, void is busted rn, surge has some pretty great single targets damage
55% crit chance laspistol is pretty absurd
magic whale
Are the duelling swords any good vs a Force sword?
steel flame
No idea, don't have any decent dueling sword since they have been garbage as long as the game has been out
spice veldt
mk4 duelly currently competes with or beats the deimos
frigid flame
Can’t make a build with assail AND wildfire because wildfire can only be accessed by going brainblast or smite 😦
still hearth
Can’t make a build with assail AND wildfire because wildfire can only be accesse...
Wildfire is overrated
spice veldt
mk4 duelly currently competes with or beats the deimos
read stuff beginning from here #psyker-class message if you're interested
keen harbor
why would you want wildfire if you have assail?
steel flame
Wildfire is overrated
Yer mom was overrated
fierce crest
Can’t make a build with assail AND wildfire because wildfire can only be accesse...
yeah, first thing i wanted to try was assail with full warpfire
frigid flame
Wildfire is overrated
Not when you use a purgutus staff
still hearth
Yer mom was overrated
Listen here you fukr
still hearth
Not when you use a purgutus staff
Yeah still.
steel flame
I love wildfire with fire trauma
frigid flame
I wanted to use purgutus staff, wildfire, venting screech and stuff full flamer build and have assail to nuke things like snipers and dogs and muties from far
keen harbor
I find that if you use assail, there's almost no time to use a staff.
still hearth
Assail horde clears too well tbh
frigid flame
Unless crusher
still hearth
summer prairie
it needs to have more downtime at least, then you would have a fun loop
winter iris
yoooo I just got such a good sword damage statistic! (My Psyker is lvl19)
frigid flame
Assail falls off hard in damnation tho
summer prairie
uh no
still hearth
Assail falls off hard in damnation tho
It really doesn't
spice veldt
Assail falls off hard in damnation tho
no
frigid flame
It’s what I was told
summer prairie
you are going to be top dps every game doing auric maelstorm and assail only
still hearth
Yeah those people are wrong
keen harbor
Assail is pretty strong in damnation
teal needle
Assail still works in damnation
keen harbor
and you can aim the shards as they fly
steel flame
It's amazing in damnation if you don't use it entirely by itself like everyone seems to want to do
frigid flame
I just toss them out and let them find their own targets
Only time I aim it is if I’m charge throwing it
keen harbor
they work better when you aim
lyric burrow
which meth addict told you this
Tbf we did have someone argue that it was barely usable the other day so im not shocked
frigid flame
I had no issue with them on heresy
keen harbor
can clear hordes quite easily
jaunty schooner
spice veldt
if you look at the raw DPS values of assail, they're whatever; but they...
- have a fast swap time
- extremely lenient aim assist, lending itself to clearing enemies that are spread out perpendicularly around you
- Has a target cap instead of a cleave cap, thus not being affected by hitmass
- No loss in effectiveness in distance (to an extent) due to the aim assist and the lack of any damage falloff
steel flame
Because they ONLY use assail and think it falls off cause it can't solve every problem solo
still hearth
It only can't solve bosses and crushers
Though enough density also sucks for it but
lyric burrow
And with void handily solving armor issues its barely a weakness
fierce crest
yeah but density eventually hurts everything but purg
near wyvern
Yeah assail might take 2-3 hits to kill an elite or special at Damnation but you regen one every 1.4s so you are more limited by peril if you don't quell cancel.
And if you do quell cancel you can do a force sword push into 3 quell cancelled assails and push again, perfectly safe and enough to kill three most elites and specials.
steel flame
yeah but density eventually hurts everything but purg
Trauma COUGH
near wyvern
Cause you get three hits per shard with upgrade
lyric burrow
Plus ep loops itself when you do kill the elite
steel flame
Voidstrike is so much better
That's what they all think
spice veldt
Plus ep loops itself when you do kill the elite
spawning 40 ragers and killing them with shards (and without perilous combustion) 😎
ionic needle
Trauma is really really strong, I just don't like the feel of using it so I don't
lyric burrow
That's what they all think
Rn its true
wide summit
Hate the trauma staff
how do you not love just launching enemies behind your team 🧠
near wyvern
Rn its true
Define better
snow coral
as a smite dome psyker I can't wait for assail to get knocked down a peg, lol. Every psyker I see now is running that. it's fun sure, but it's kinda like the new shredder and makes me think 'what am I even doing here?'
near wyvern
Better at killing elites and specials? Sure, void is better.
Better at keeping enemies at bay? Trauma is the winner there.
lyric burrow
Void has better anti armor and special killing with fairly comparable horde clear for less peril
Void just kills them now though
near wyvern
Void has better anti armor and special killing with fairly comparable horde clea...
Peril is irrelevant. You want to be high on it anyway.
lyric burrow
Rather than disables them
lyric burrow
Peril is irrelevant. You want to be high on it anyway.
Fair
teal needle
Trauma is worse than void rn but it still does the job
steel flame
Mmhmm.
still hearth
frigid flame
But it doesn’t have range
near wyvern
Just to clarify when I say Trauma I mean warp nexus blazing spirit trauma. Flurry rending doesn't perform that well, if we are talking about the ability to carry.
still hearth
Wildfire is certainly a node
near wyvern
Wildfire is certainly a node
It's still bugged tho
still hearth
People are deusional if they thing it does anything
near wyvern
It does something and now that fire ult is so frequently available it's one of those talents where you can go "well it's broken but better than nothing"
still hearth
It does something and now that fire ult is so frequently available it's one of t...
Yeah but when people keep saying they're sad they can't take it
spice veldt
But it doesn’t have range
20m is sufficient for many scenarios
frigid flame
I’d rather charge a spirit bomb from my voidstrike and kill the sniper who is attacking me rather than blow up a few dudes in front of me
still hearth
Like do people not have a purgatus that does this to hordes?
spice veldt
i'm not going to contend that voidstrike > trauma, but range is not a particular weakness of trauma
especially not on a class with BR or Assail
frigid flame
Unless they made trauma do about 5x more damage and 2x as big radius I see no reason to use trauma
There is a reason it’s the first and lowest staff you get
fierce crest
thats not how that works
spice veldt
it was the best generalist staff before the patch
frigid flame
Psyker was my first class, I’ve played since beta. I’ve NEVER liked the trauma. It caused me mental trauma just trying to use it
lyric burrow
That doesnt make it bad
worn cypress
yea the mechanics can feel jank to play until you get used to it
lyric burrow
It just doesnt work with your playstyle
royal granite
idk why they nerfed trauma and buffed the hell out of voidstrike
spice veldt
idk why they nerfed trauma and buffed the hell out of voidstrike
they buffed trauma
royal granite
really?
frigid flame
I mean if you’re a masochist then sure use trauma by all means lmao
spice veldt
they bumped the damage up
lyric burrow
idk why they nerfed trauma and buffed the hell out of voidstrike
I think the level of buff to void was unintentional
vapid canopy
How to I get warp battery
plucky flax
All these people saying trauma suck might be dellusional.
royal granite
oh higher base damage
lyric burrow
How to I get warp battery
Bottom left of tree
vapid canopy
I don’t know how to unlock the 4th charged scionic
still hearth
Trauma users coping too hard 
spice veldt
All these people saying trauma suck might be dellusional.
prob people confusing their dislike of the trauma's mechanics for the performance of the staff
worn cypress
I mean if you’re a masochist then sure use trauma by all means lmao
if "play what you like" means being a masochist to you
royal granite
i only saw the armour pen nerf before
vapid canopy
Bottom left of tree
Oh I see
frigid flame
if "play what you like" means being a masochist to you
It’s okay to like whatever I’m not telling you to not play it
teal needle
On top of the damage buff all the ways to crank warp damage benefit trauma too
vapid canopy
Do I need to keep killing elites to maintain it
frigid flame
I’m just saying it’s objectively worse. I like objectively bad weapons too on other classes
forest iris
There seems to be a bug with the shield. Can someone explain to me what it is?
worn cypress
its... not objectively worse lmao
frigid flame
That’s a cope
still hearth
There seems to be a bug with the shield. Can someone explain to me what it is?
If you have 1 or more warp charges with dome you get 100% cooldown back
worn cypress
m8 I dont even play trauma
still hearth
So as long as you keep getting 1 warp charge then you can keep spamming it
spice veldt
Unless they made trauma do about 5x more damage and 2x as big radius I see no re...
with this statement, you're certainly making a direct statement about trauma rather than just saying voidstrike > trauma (which I don't disagree with)
lyric burrow
Once void gets nerfed it will Probs be the best staff again
worn cypress
it's a good staff. nice damage, great utility. I don't like it
but its a good staff man 🤣
forest iris
If you have 1 or more warp charges with dome you get 100% cooldown back
Oh ok. Thanks!
bold flint
i drop three bubbles for this ogryn gunlugger to kill these gunners and he just stares face smashed into a cart
steel flame
more people need to learn to quell cancel, then maybe people will stop dissing trauma XP
forest iris
Seems to be all shields actually
But we are the only class with warp charges. Or what do you mean?
lyric burrow
All the shield skills im assuming
still hearth
All the shield upgrades
Except
Double shield wall
Actually breaks the bug
So having 1 shield is better than 2 if you plan to use the single wall
And use the bug
forest iris
And use the bug
Thanks!
still hearth
Meanwhile
austere burrow
steel flame
?
teal needle
Edging is free 20% damage though 😄
frigid flame
Sure but I’d rather not risk blowing up
forest iris
And use the bug
So I need to take Warp Siphon, the purple skills on the bottom left for this to work, right?
lyric burrow
But your giving up 20% damage
Just tap r when you hit 100 and you go down to like 85
steel flame
ive long since accepted im a forever psyker
frigid flame
But your giving up 20% damage
I don’t like to chance things like that. I prefer safety over DPS
I have unlimited ammo and I’m quick
still hearth
So I need to take Warp Siphon, the purple skills on the bottom left for this to ...
Yes
spice veldt
i temporarily went over to bolter vet to abuse the ever-living crap out of it while it lasted
worn cypress
skill issue
austere burrow
That's how I feel about the positioning of the dr node
still hearth
triple it with trauma
That's not how it works at all rn
loud girder
because i want BR
vagrant frigate
mind in motion is mid bro
still hearth
man why is it HERE
Because its bad
frigid flame
i want brain blast
still hearth
Quell with your staff
steel flame
That's not how it works at all rn
do tell
vagrant frigate
its shit
spice veldt
you can always dodge while quelling
steel flame
now if say,,,,mind in motion got rid of all slows, like brainblast or casting?
then we might be cooking
maybe
still hearth
If you could run while quelling
Then it would be worth it
Barely
But at least then I can go fast
spice veldt
If you could run while quelling
yeah this would be the big one to me
since when dodging, mind in motion does nothing
acoustic spade
My friend keeps insisting that Psyker Right-click kills dont count as Ranged kills for contracts, is he right?
spice veldt
I run malefic instead since I take the crit aura instead
I despise mind in motion to the point of avoiding it and going for crit instead
narrow hare
ranged kills are specifically kills with your gun/stave
steel flame
i actually run the other option since im using a laspistol with assail and mind in motion does nothin for me
nice little extra damage
narrow hare
right click kills are technically blitz kills
fierce crest
mind in motion would be nice if it was baseline
still hearth
I run malefic instead since I take the crit aura instead
I just don't kill stuff enough with melee to notice
ebon smelt
hello fellow space wizards!
What shoud look for in a dueling sword? i never really used any of them
regal jasper
I still fully believe that when a psyker dies from peril they should turn into a daemon host
teal needle
I still fully believe that when a psyker dies from peril they should turn into a...
We playing dark heresy now lads 
bold flint
when a psyker dies from peril, anti manifestation protocols should be enacted immediately
regal jasper
Like explosion then bleed out
Cuz if it was just on getting downed then toxic psykers would throw
bold flint
you can just throw anyway even if you needed to bleed out
fierce ridge
These penance reward bottoms match perfectly.
bold flint
ive been using those for ages
fierce ridge
Just got the top yesterday, I was using the explode yourself clothes for a minute. I don't like much of the paid for cosmetics for psyker.
regal jasper
fierce ridge
That's clean. I've never seen those 👀
regal jasper
The jacket is really popular
spice oar
That's clean. I've never seen those 👀
Your never gonna believe this
regal jasper
Lmao
fierce ridge
💀
regal jasper
Prem cosmetics
still hearth
Smite does 87 DPS empowered to Dreg Gunners lets go
spice oar
Smite does 87 DPS empowered to Dreg Gunners lets go
unironically pretty good
still hearth
No no it really isn't
ebon smelt
praise be the emperor
regal jasper
Smite does 87 DPS empowered to Dreg Gunners lets go
Shards only do like 400 to unarmored it needs to be higher imo
spice oar
why you using smite for dmg anyways lmao
still hearth
I'm just seeing its DPS values
fierce ridge
You can't take my Palpatine away from me.
ebon smelt
thats the strengh of the warp force
still hearth
One issue with Smite DPS is that it ramps up
But not that much
But it skews the values a bit on low HP targets
regal jasper
I go from 70 fps to like 20 if i throw some shards during another psykers lightning
cloud sequoia
fierce ridge
Same
fierce ridge
spice oar
gunker
regal jasper
Id send mine but im not home rn
still hearth
It actually does LESS DAMAGE
teal needle
I'm seeing a lot of fotm assail psykers queuing way above their abilities and getting dumped
spice oar
I only see gunkers use auto pistol lmao
auto is great yeah but i prefer revolver and laspistol for style points
regal jasper
The game has revolvers?
fierce ridge
The game has guns?
regal jasper
It actually does LESS DAMAGE
Bb or shock hands
regal jasper
The game has guns?
Insane
lyric burrow
I will not accept revolver slander
still hearth
Bb or shock hands
Smite
regal jasper
I am now torn between my head hunter rifle and revolver
still hearth
Yes
Lightning fingers
(Which is funny because psyker_smite was the name for BB before iirc)
regal jasper
The dps doesn’t seem that great on it
lyric burrow
It does negative damage
regal jasper
It heals them?
lyric burrow
It honestly feels like it lol
regal jasper
Damn i dont think psyker needs to be nerfed if thas the case
lyric burrow
Its all cc
regal jasper
Looks pretty tho
teal needle
Smite takes like 10 seconds to kill a poxwalker yeah haha
fierce ridge
I have only played psyker since release. I came back for the overhaul after a 3 month break, and the first time I used smite I genuinely started laughing. It's so much fun.
plucky flax
Blaze trauma auric maelstrom 24 mins 400k+ damage seems bad must be trash staff.
Woops wrong screen.
spice oar
It does negative damage
idk if smites point is dmg tho
fierce ridge
CC so the zealots and ogryns can clean them up
still hearth
idk if smites point is dmg tho
It isn't but CCing things isn't as helpful as some people think
regal jasper
idk if smites point is dmg tho
Smite is just a set up for the true bread winner of psyker
still hearth
Using it the entire run is literally just making things die slower
regal jasper
Shards
spice oar
Using it the entire run is literally just making things die slower
thats certainly an opinion
vestal fulcrum
I assume you still advocate for Wildfire?
plucky flax
Of course.
vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
People just aren't skilled enough to make it work. 
lyric burrow
The one time smite has been helpful was in melee only maelstrom where its non stop crushers and shit and no ammo and smite was our only cc
Let me kill them as zealot easily
vestal fulcrum
People just aren't skilled enough to make it work. <a:SadgeCry:92734652972597658...
What build are you using by the by?
plucky flax
What build are you using by the by?
Vanilla psyker build. BB and shriek.
fierce ridge
On auric malestrom smite feels really nice. When those specialist hordes come in and things start to get overwhelming, you can drop bubble and slow the pace of the game down for everyone without people having to panic and break coherency.
vestal fulcrum
I wonder how heavily it does not differ from mine
fierce ridge
Does anyone use new BB
vestal fulcrum
I do
It’s still good
Assail is dominating public lobbies for now, but I can’t really blame people for wanting to try new, cool blitzes
BR is still really, really reliable. The only niche it has lost to an extent is being a good tool for killing bosses, so Psykers have relatively not many good options to damage monsters of any kind
plucky flax
I wonder how heavily it *does not* differ from mine
fierce ridge
I haven't gotten assail down yet. The peril generation is insane with scriers gaze.
vestal fulcrum
Hm, so it differs slightly, because I don't go the warp charges route
plucky flax
Free warp charges free damage.
vestal fulcrum
And I get the cooldown aura instead of special/elite damage one
vestal fulcrum
Free warp charges free damage.
Yes, but you expend them when you sneeze with Shriek, so you end up in an awkward situation where you want to sneeze, but at the same time you don't want to lose the damage
plucky flax
I have my own aura.
vestal fulcrum
I just get Empowered Psionics, because it gives BB some relevant breakpoints and makes them easier to cast
teal needle
Idk on aurics warp charges come back fast
maiden barn
so is the smite thing that lowers my fps by 50 a bug or is that just what it does baseline
how do I convince a psyker to NOT reduce my fps by 50
silent chasm
please tell me this is in the game and isn't a mod.
vestal fulcrum
Idk on aurics warp charges come back fast
I think there is argument for both, but I appreciate the convenience of not having to constantly worry about warp charges
celest hedge
I was wondering how empowered psionics was like on BB, it sounds like you could probably chained buffed BB into buffed BB on elites
vestal fulcrum
I was wondering how empowered psionics was like on BB, it sounds like you could ...
You can absolutely do that
plucky flax
Yeah I also run communial aura thingy.
4% on each enemy died so it fills up passively fairly fast.
ornate hamlet
Quick question since they get answered here and not in zealot chat for some reason
Best heavy sword and blessings?
celest hedge
Since I think with empowered and another node, it does more damage than old BB did but with potentially double cast time and free cost after your ult since empowered I tbink makes it free?
keen harbor
Mk9 heavy
snow coral
so is the smite thing that lowers my fps by 50 a bug or is that just what it doe...
I run smite and I have no FPS drop
plucky flax
Quick question since they get answered here and not in zealot chat for some reas...
Same as pre-patch. Headtaker rampage mk9.
keen harbor
something like that
fierce ridge
how do I convince a psyker to NOT reduce my fps by 50
Donate 3gb of your VRAM
keen harbor
although this is probably fine too, since Mk9 has a side to side heavy swing at head height
fierce ridge
I'm not doing 1M like zealots, though.
snow coral
so the game was avg 2.5 k players pre update, now it's baseline around 20k and I still can't get a full lobby to start a mission, lol
river willow
So what's the general "meta" been since the update dropped? I'd like to guess it's the zappy hands (or throwing sharp rocks), shield, and generally leaning towards the right side of the tree, but no clue really
keen harbor
voidstrike, bubble shield, shards
river willow
Shards and voidstrike? Wouldn't they step on each other's toes?
keen harbor
stay away from bottom right of the tree and you should be fine
they kinda do, but voidstrike is good against crushers and bulwarks, where as shards is only good against hordes and elites
drowsy slate
Shards and voidstrike? Wouldn't they step on each other's toes?
You play one or the other I think voidstrike with BB is fine coupled with bottom left and shards is bottom middle with surge staff
keen harbor
and with the proper build, you will run out of shards to shoot, so there is some downtime to use voidstrike
river willow
Gotcha. Might tweak it a little and go with brain burst exclusively for snipers and such
plucky flax
Blaze trauma superiority.
drowsy slate
Imho I think the bubble is the best psyker combat ability by far
plucky flax
Boom boom burn baby burn.
safe meteor
voidstrike, bubble shield, shards
I've been running this for a while now but I'd like to switch Assail with something else, dunno if I should either go back to BB or go for the bio zappy thing
keen harbor
bubble with warp (bottom left) is broken...
river willow
I still like the knockdown a lot as a quick "get the hell away from me" button, but yeah I can see shield being better
keen harbor
bio zap is also a good choice, but pair it with voidstrike
river willow
(also as a woops I just threw all my shards and am about to explode button)
drowsy slate
I've been running this for a while now but I'd like to switch Assail with someth...
You can get the passiv BB procs, when I play void there is no need for a blitz ability
keen harbor
and you can bring a Mk4 duelist sword, it's kinda useful now
left cedar
Anyone noticed if u take EP and kill elite with BB, u can’t gain stack from 0 to 1
keen harbor
yeah, there are some weird buggy behaviour right now
If you use shards, you can't deploy shield during certain parts of the shards animation, even when not at critical peril
dense grove
I love the zappy hands but it feels like I'm letting down my team by not using assail lol
keen harbor
that's what voidstrike is for
dense grove
True, I enjoy the kind of cc/support playstyle I get with zappy hands but at the same time using voidstrike for tougher enemies. Dont really know if its a valid playstyle though
keen harbor
the zappy hands with bottom middle has a bug where you can cast it infinitely for 0 peril
austere burrow
If you clear it's valid
dense grove
the zappy hands with bottom middle has a bug where you can cast it infinitely fo...
yeah i've been doing that, its great lol
lilac tapir
has anyone tried the crit surge voidstrike after the patch? I have this one for many months now but only used it once for meme build.
austere burrow
If you find yourself trolling too many runs maybe reevaluate your approach
safe meteor
True, I enjoy the kind of cc/support playstyle I get with zappy hands but at the...
I mean a good balance between CC and clearing/damage is a valid playstyle, just make sure you enjoy it (don't force yourself to play what you don't like)
keen harbor
has anyone tried the crit surge voidstrike after the patch? I have this one for ...
that's what I'm using on damnation. It works fine? There's probably a more optimal build for it, but it works
dense grove
The runs I do lose i try to evaluate what went wrong but most times I feel like its teammates overextending and not playing around the cc i give them
keen harbor
The runs I am failing, the team is running off on their own while disablers are active, getting downed, and then I can't do anything to help them
Like I can't cast bubble shield 50m away from me
dense grove
yeah same
Though i dont run bubble, I run shriek so that I can keep my CC up for longer
keen harbor
The only thing I wish it did was charge faster, but it's still plenty strong
analog agate
I’m still a fan of 2 rectangle shields over bubble
safe meteor
Hecc I forgot how good it feels to have 6 stacks of warp charges and get that sweet peril generation reduction
slow raven
The only thing I wish it did was charge faster, but it's still plenty strong
you can try swapping warp nexus for warp flurry and get your crits from true aim
voidstrike can proc true aim from a single cast so it's really not necessary to get crits "naturally" with it
keen harbor
that is a good idea, I might squeeze that in
plucky flax
It's yellow you can't craft it anymore.
willow cobalt
How are the stats on this?
snow coral
yeah you';d need to craft others to get the blessing to add it to that staff after sacrificing them
keen harbor
warp nexus pairs well with surge, but it's not as useful with other combinations
teal needle
Try to pull surge off another voidstrike
Might as well enjoy easy crusher oneshots while it lasts
keen harbor
yes, but it feels less useful compared to assail
the classic flamer build is... okay. Like it works fine in damnation
willow cobalt
Should I upgrade this? Or trash it?
sterile saddle
trash imo
everyone likes different things on their weapon tho
i personally prefer quell/dmg and charge
snow scaffold
It's a really good staff
teal needle
Purgatus is okay. It will get you through missions and it still kills hordes. Psyker has plenty of better tools rn though
You can use it
keen harbor
With the improved peril reduction and skill tree peril quell, the slower quell speed on the staff isn't as bad
undone fossil
what blessing and perks should i go for with this one?
keen harbor
warp flurry + blessing that transfers peril
sterile saddle
if you have Surge swap out blazing, then i'd probably change specialists to Crit
safe meteor
What do you guys use the surge staff after the recent changes?
undone fossil
so unyielding is good to keep?
snow scaffold
I use Surge staff to take out specials as soon as possible, kinda like overwatch duty
teal needle
Idk peril transfer doesnt seem very necessary these days
keen harbor
Yes. Unyielding applies to crushers and bulwarks
sterile saddle
i like unyielding, it works on bosses too
undone fossil
cool
keen harbor
Like you can do Maniac + unyielding with voidstrike, since it hits so hard
teal needle
Voidstrike is one of the few ways psykers have of chunking bosses lol
royal falcon
How does smite work exactly
keen harbor
Any of these combinations are good
royal falcon
surge looks kinda spicy
keen harbor
Smite right click chains infinitely
left click chains to 3~4?
royal falcon
Ah, ok
also, another thing
is it just me or is there specific music that plays if you're the last person alive on your team
keen harbor
yes, it does that
velvet crescent
Was doing a heresy run and noticed a psyker summoning some sorta purple bubble, what was that?
royal falcon
Was doing a heresy run and noticed a psyker summoning some sorta purple bubble, ...
middle psyker tree ability, telekine shield
it has a node that turns it into a dome rather than a wall
velvet crescent
middle psyker tree ability, telekine shield
it has a node that turns it into a ...
oooh neato
yeah i noticed it was blocking dreg gunners
keen harbor
the bubble might not block sniper shots, although I can't confirm that
near wyvern
I prefer more the stun shield than the camp bubble
dense grove
ah yes, the all mighty floating head psyker build
keen harbor
it's like a mini MODOK
royal falcon
personally I’m a fan of purgatus staff + smite + venting shriek
velvet crescent
i was vet, 2 psykers, zealot
royal falcon
sure I combust at the thought of an enemy being more than 15 meters away from me but I become a CC god in the process
velvet crescent
psykers were both running smite
cerulean cave
is the MK5 still the go-to duelling sword?
royal falcon
yes
naive imp
I’m pretty sure assail is doing like 400-500 damage
cerulean cave
well, Psionics Keystone does say that the base dmg increases from 100 to 150
on assail
atomic tapir
is the mk5 duel sword better then the mk4?
plucky flax
What's the bug for shield recharge?
astral oracle
warp charges
plucky flax
What do you need to take for it?
keen harbor
bottom left
astral oracle
one warp charge is all u need
cerulean cave
What's the bug for shield recharge?
use the warp charge keystone. Having just 1 charge when using it, will let you place another
plucky flax
Ah crap does the shards build go to the left?
cerulean cave
so just keep an eye on your charges
plucky flax
You don't right.
astral oracle
assail goes to the right
plucky flax
You go empowered blitz.
astral oracle
just build towards the left
plucky flax
Wut not empowered blitz?
keen harbor
you can take shards shield and warp
cerulean cave
I just did a build with Assail, shield and charges
plucky flax
But muh assail might be weawk without empowered blitz.
cerulean cave
astral oracle
Well it isn’t
dense grove
Is zappy hands better with warp charges or EP?
astral oracle
you don’t even need the empowered most of the times
dense grove
Oh yeah forgot about the bug
teal needle
Yeah smite is honestly pretty meh without the byg
keen harbor
easy 5pts extra
cerulean cave
Smite definitely gets a very strong bonus from EP, yea
cerulean cave
easy 5pts extra
how're you sharing your build like that?
keen harbor
astral oracle
build editor is updated
plucky flax
/usetalents psyker 17;1|1,2|1,5|1,6|1,9|1,13|1,17|1,19|1,21|1,27|1,28|1,33|1,37|1,40|1,41|1,43|1,44|1,50|1,52|1,53|1,54|1,57|1,59|1,68|1,69|1,71|1,72|1,73|1,75|1,77|1 <-- my blaze trauma build.
keen harbor
win+shift+S takes a screen shot
plucky flax
That was responding to the mod question.
cerulean cave
ohhh
that's interesting
thanks^^
any good or should I keep trying for a defence/mobility dump?
plucky flax
I'll try warp charge assail after food.
cerulean cave
I like it a lot, combined with dome
cerulean cave
but I prefer surge for the CC and jumps
keen harbor
If you get tired of assail, Smite+voidstrike+shield+empowered
cerulean cave
Surge also works nicely with the crit talents
stable silo
jesus i came back from a long break after 400+ hours in this game and i know nothing now rofl
cerulean cave
I feel ya
plucky flax
Surge also works nicely with the crit talents
You run crit chance aura too?
cerulean cave
not for the break, but for having to relearn lmao
lament sparrow
whats the best staff to pair with smite?
stable silo
i think im just gonna rebuild my gun psyker unless they nerfed my pistol near god shredder pistol
cerulean cave
You run crit chance aura too?
contemplating that rn...but I think the 10% damage aura is a better pick because of this
stable silo
and ignore all the new stuff
plucky flax
Yeah the elite damage one is kinda good.
cerulean cave
the perks after the crit aura arent very good
plucky flax
Don't think 4% is worth it.
keen harbor
On the row with One with the Warp, that's about the only good skill to take
raw token
this is for the mkiv duelling sword, i know one of the missing ones is riposte, whats the other one?
cerulean cave
yea and crit % can be very useless on some builds
raw token
cerulean cave
it might be good in a 4 stack
if all run a crit build
but for pub or just better synergy, the 10% is deffo better
restive spoke
Uncanny strike
raw token
Uncanny strike
thanks, didnt know if agile was there?
keen harbor
like you wouldn't take these two, because why would you?
cerulean cave
@plucky flax my Assail, Dome, Warp Charge build using a Surge staff
loud girder
are assail hits considered warp attacks?
teal needle
Yes
keen harbor
You get infinite dodge with the swords anyways
loud girder
yeah but its not an... attack per-se
cerulean cave
you're throwing warp meth at them, ofc it's a warp attack
raw token
like you wouldn't take these two, because why would you?
you might take one for the stuff below them, and also anticipation isnt amazing but if you crit a lot its not the worst thing
teal needle
Putting a blue knife through someones head is an attack
teal needle
If someone did they to me i would feel very attacked
naive imp
Don't think 4% is worth it.
Agree. 10-33% reduction or 10% damage is better imo.
The reduction is really good because I feel like you tend to get hit when you have high peril and are trying to quell anyways.
cerulean cave
yep
teal needle
Yes
naive imp
Assail is better at horde clear than anything tbh.
keen harbor
unless it's a huge horde and no one on your team is helping... but then you would take equinox
cerulean cave
you'll never be complimented more by your fellow mates, than if you use assail on a horde.
raw token
if you wanna use the purgatus staff but still have an efficient build id recommend brainburst with vent
keen harbor
the classic flamer build works okay in damnation
cerulean cave
it's kind of a struggle in auric though
keen harbor
but it needs a huge horde to feed itself
raw token
BB, Vent, Charges
or empowered psionics for less maintenance
austere estuary
Idk peril transfer doesnt seem very necessary these days
I thought that too, but since not only do we have less peril build and faster quell, but the buffed transfer itself plus the talents that give you toughness on quell and gain and kill, you can REALLY go ham with void now
cerulean cave
or empowered psionics for less maintenance
I like the synergy of Charges with Soulblaze, personally
austere estuary
and the potential for rapid fire secondaries
astral oracle
Purgatus definitely felt better pre-update
austere estuary
so you can even just spam shots to quell since you'll lose more than you gain with a decent few targets
astral oracle
Not sure what they changed
raw token
It feels like the DOT dmg was nerfed
it was nerfed because their health was increased
cerulean cave
maybe
loud girder
I mean, if I'm not wrong here, staff is mostly to stagger em
limber heath
They might just touch the EP buff for it (maybe at the same time they fix smite)
stable silo
fire staff not bis anymore?
keen harbor
Like if you take flame staff with brain burst by chance skill, and someone else takes assail. All the assail hits feel like brainburst
raw token
for trauma staff i really like smite and vent
austere estuary
purg is super reliable at hordes EXCEPT they really should buff burn on crushers especially
btw warp charges + soulblaze talents + nexus/blazing trauma is pretty funny now
cerulean cave
oh damn yea. Though...Purgatus has one massive advantage on Assail
austere estuary
you can even throw ult out happily and you'll have charges back in a flash
keen harbor
Fire staff still works, but it doesn't have the utility of shields
fluid knot
fire staff not bis anymore?
Never was
cerulean cave
if you run outta assails...no more horde clear. Purgatus? Virtually infinite, if you can manage your peril remotely well
keen harbor
if you are used to how the old psyker played, and you don't take vent, be prepared to pop yourself until you get used to it
cerulean cave
sooo for VERY large hordes, Purgatus is still better...but that'd also mean you're either solo or your team isnt doing anything
cerulean cave
if you are used to how the old psyker played, and you don't take vent, be prepar...
me trying scrier day 1
willow hazel
if you run outta assails...no more horde clear. Purgatus? Virtually infinite, if...
Or just run Venting Shreik + Creeping Flames. Which also stacks very well Perilous Combustion
austere estuary
sooo for VERY large hordes, Purgatus is still better...but that'd also mean you'...
no vent is kinda surprisingly fine I found
our tools for peril are SO much better
keen harbor
also the servers lagging causing accidental explosions
cerulean cave
no vent is kinda surprisingly fine I found
was saying purgatus compared to assail
oh
austere estuary
sorry wrong reply
fluid knot
Vent is still fuckin goated tbh
austere estuary
I still mostly take vent
fluid knot
Stack it up an spit it back out, good ult
keen harbor
Yeah, the old psyker needed vent to keep up the DPS and CC. Now? you don't need it
fluid knot
You dont need it, but its got so much utility
vestal rose
been playing vet and zealot since the update
finally went and looked at psykers new talent tree
lmao what the fuck is this
austere estuary
that's another GREAT reason to take transfer peril on void
royal granite
i wouldn't say they needed it
willow hazel
Vent works really well with Warp Charges too
late yew
please tell me this is in the game and isn't a mod.
Scoreboard? Is a mod.
vestal rose
what did they do to my psyker
this is absurd
late yew
Just install it too
fluid knot
Arguably there was less reason to need Venting on old Psyker tbh
Unless the odd time you needed to squeeze out one more burst
royal granite
yeah it's absurd
absurdly powerful
fluid knot
Its primary use on old psyker was to proc KB/AB
austere estuary
nah old psyker had mroe reason to vent because of warp flurry mechanics
vestal rose
yeah it's absurd
absurdly powerful
yep
i hate it
austere estuary
on old psyker, I used vent to allow me to get more casts of trauma at max flurry off
since it didn't break it if you vented during charge
now not needed for that
keen harbor
If you don't want to play absurdly OP psyker, just play with voidstrike and shield. Don't really need anything else
austere estuary
since flurry stays even if you let go of M2
vestal rose
i was hoping for variety and cool stuff
not this lol
austere estuary
If you don't want to play absurdly OP psyker, just play with voidstrike and shie...
I'd argue void is absurdly op atm but hey
cerulean cave
what are you on?
fluid knot
If you don't want to play absurdly OP psyker, just play with voidstrike and shie...
Mate Voidstrike is ridiculously OP
slow raven
well the game has gotten a lot harder so it's justified to make us stronger
royal granite
voidstrike is busted atm yeah, it's getting knocked down for sure
fluid knot
Its the single most busted thing in the game right now
slow raven
they increased the specialist and elite waves
keen harbor
yeah, but the challenge is... don't use any blitz skills
slow raven
and also theyre making us play with fresh level 30s and returning players
royal granite
hey it's rare for us to have it this good in a patch, enjoy it while it lasts
austere estuary
Its *the* single most busted thing in the game right now
I keep telling people this but everyone's hung up on assail
vestal rose
nah
the game aint thaaaat hard
this is way overturned
anyway have fun lol ill be back home when they do a balance pass
slow raven
so even though im way more op than before, im losing more missions
fluid knot
Thats not a challenge, thats just using one stupidly overtuned bit of kit
silent chasm
Scoreboard? Is a mod.
n a r t s
raw token
so even though im way more op than before, im losing more missions
balance still shouldnt be based on the skill level of players in a new update
astral oracle
i wouldn't say they needed it
you bouta need these hands
fluid knot
I keep telling people this but everyone's hung up on assail
Assail is strong, but Voidstrike is outright broken for sure. They both need tweaks but my god Void is wayyy too much
keen harbor
90% of the current population are returning or new players, my guess
austere estuary
right?
fluid knot
Assail is only a little bit too much
austere estuary
void is comically strong
astral oracle
Returning player. Running heresies ez
raw token
Assail is strong, but Voidstrike is outright broken for sure. They both need twe...
other than turning down the damage i dont know how they can nerf it
fluid knot
Even if it lost 20% on direct damage, Void would still be a super strong pick
fluid knot
other than turning down the damage i dont know how they can nerf it
Thats exactly what they should do
slow raven
balance still shouldnt be based on the skill level of players in a new update
it's tongue in cheek but still, if i cant hard carry a match rn it's not possible to win with some of the ppl queuing up in maelstrom
and i need to be like 3x as strong as before with some of these guys
royal granite
i'm returning, but i put in a good 200 hours before i peaced out
austere estuary
assail's easy to tune since there are so many dials - peril, projectile speed, damage, refill rate, so on
astral oracle
I put in my time of max levelling every character before dipping
royal granite
i'd like to see assail have the refill rate reduced, so it can still feel powerful without being a solve everything without carapace button
fluid knot
assail's easy to tune since there are so many dials - peril, projectile speed, d...
Ye for sure, there are numerous ways they could go about it with that, an it'll still feel good when its fixed up a bit
austere estuary
yeah
fluid knot
Ofc though i expect to see PSword nerf fallout 2.0 over it
austere estuary
even if it only got a minor nerf
we'll always see people screaming into the void over it
it is the way of things
fluid knot
Yuup
Sadly
Same will probably happen with Void, but people will probably bitch about that one too
raw token
if void gets nerfed too badly ill literally just switch to surge
velvet crescent
90% of the current population are returning or new players, my guess
can confirm, i was gone for 6 months before yesterday
fluid knot
Despite everyone knowing Void is broken
velvet crescent
I'm still getting used to a lot of the new stuff
cerulean cave
as long as they don't mess with mah surge babeh
austere estuary
trauma is my favourite style wise, and I'm glad it's basically always been good to strong (though at early stages you needed a more specific setup with melee weapons power buffing it)
cerulean cave
I'm good
astral oracle
I mean technically they’ve already messed with it
austere estuary
btw what are you guys running on Claws now they're buffed?
raw token
trauma is my favourite style wise, and I'm glad it's basically always been good ...
what blitz do u use with it
cerulean cave
I mean technically they’ve already messed with it
I like it better this way
austere estuary
what blitz do u use with it
honestly brain burst
cerulean cave
so they better keep their hands off now
fluid knot
btw what are you guys running on Claws now they're buffed?
Rampage/Shred is probably the ideal roll at this point
Mine has Rampage/Skullcrusher on it an they're locked tho so big sad
fluid knot
Put Flak over Groaners an Shred over Vicious it'll be stronk
untold otter
been a while since i last played. is there a way to fix 100% peril without having venting shriek?
austere estuary
oh this just popped in store
sterile saddle
sheeesh
fluid knot
I know one of the playtesters is pushing for a one time unlock of perks an blessings so everyone can reset to the new meta, but i have no idea if it'll happen or not
sterile saddle
thas nice
austere estuary
and this 
fluid knot
Oh very nice
sterile saddle
sheeesh
royal granite
been a while since i last played. is there a way to fix 100% peril without havin...
just vent normally?
sterile saddle
thas nice
raw token
been a while since i last played. is there a way to fix 100% peril without havin...
just dont overheat
fluid knot
Hold R @untold otter
austere estuary
I love that the current state is 'too many toys to try out'
untold otter
well i mean i hit 100% and it's going that pre-blowing up thingy. is it too late at that point?
royal granite
oh
raw token
yes
fluid knot
If you're in the animation you're fucked
austere estuary
if you start the animation you've went too far
royal granite
in that case you're dead if you don't have venting shriek yeah
austere estuary
only way out if a lucky kill proccing peril reduction
royal granite
your new class is bomb (short fuse), make the best of it
untold otter
okay just gotta be more careful then cause i use the shield atm
austere estuary
or if you already threw out a voidstrike hit and it has transfer peril AND it hit a weakpoint
it'd cancel your animation then
royal granite
i realise the irony of saying this with a sienna unchained pfp
fluid knot
Wait how are you exploding with shield?
sterile saddle
so u can pop a shield and then go a'burstin'
u get a bb.. you get a bb.. YEEEAH BB..!
royal granite
what's the burst damage like now anyway?
fluid knot
About the same as it was relative to enemy HPs
royal granite
i mean brain burst damage, to be clear, not burst dps
ember horizon
what staff can you recommend for assail build?
sterile saddle
1 shot everything except maulers/ogryn(anything) and bosses
muties.. take 3
if u dont have buff
dont know why
altho u can just bring a gun and finish it with a single pew cuz it sits at like.. 20 hp
ember horizon
gonna try everything then since i'm still leveling
royal granite
in fact i might bring a revolver
untold otter
anyone using the quick shards with assail? i can't think of a scenario where it works tbh
austere estuary
prepatch it was funny, in that you could send crushers to the dirt with normal attacks, but otherwise it was kinda useless
but maybe actually good now
sterile saddle
quick shards?
royal granite
has revolver ever been good?
austere estuary
revolver hasn't been good afaik, but maybe now? not sure
untold otter
quick shards?
30% cooldown instead of the +1 target
royal granite
i did some testing, it did not feel good
sterile saddle
oh u can get both
teal needle
30% cooldown instead of the +1 target
I... don't think they're exclusive
untold otter
.....lol