psyker-class

[ebon smelt]

hahaha, no worries

[late yew]

And flak for some specials

Empowered Psionics only thing that matters

everything else is whatever

[ebon smelt]

right now i am running this

[glossy onyx]

Ah yeah I assumed as much, Empowered just seems amazing

[teal needle]

If you like smite get empower. Bring a good single target staff like surge or voidstrike (voidstrike also good v hordes) and for melee... there's a ton of good melee options rn honestly

[ebon smelt]

really focused on heavy CC and dome generating

Also smite is bugged with empowered, so while you have empowered psionics your smite dosent generator any perill

[glossy onyx]

Thanks to all of you! I didn't expect to get so much help so fast, Zealot chat is an experience lmao

[teal needle]

And yeah dome is easier to use if you're new to the class, i'm a wall stan tho

[keen harbor]

The other bugged loadout is dome + warp charges

[teal needle]

The idiots flaming people for asking questions are taking a break rn i guess 👍

[glossy onyx]

ACTUALLY THO

Its fucking ridiculous lmao

[late yew]

wat

The fuck

zealot chat is great

Half the reason i play zealot as much as psykers is zealot chat

[glossy onyx]

Exactly

Thats why I love it

But by god is it hard to ask for any type of Build Help in there sometimes

[gray kelp]

damn man people still don't tag anything on damnation

[glossy onyx]

Because they'll all answer in different ways

Then argue

[late yew]

no

[gray kelp]

my wrist is hurting for having to position my hand to spam my tag button lol

[late yew]

literal asking skill issue

[glossy onyx]

Idk man maybe I just asked at the wrong time of day lmao

[teal needle]

Love that people are coming in from zealot chat to tell you you're using zealot chat wrong

[late yew]

yes

ez

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[glossy onyx]

TwT

[gray kelp]

extreme doomer limited time acquisitions, its literally all lasguns/tac axes for me

[late yew]

embrace vet

[ebon smelt]

or the vet will embrace you

[ebon smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-spider-man-running-hugging-i-got-you-gif-24163904

[glossy onyx]

That is literally a blursed image

[late yew]

traxis-3 is gunner btw

[glossy onyx]

Never seen a better image to describe blursed

[late yew]

the fuck blursed even mean

[ebon smelt]

cursed and blessed at the sime time

blursed

[glossy onyx]

Simultaneously amazing and disgusting

[ebon smelt]

like me in bed

hey hey

i am here all night folks

[glossy onyx]

Like all of us

we're darktide players mate

[snow scaffold]

Cause some people get tired of others taking their kills

But in lights out people really need to tag more

[ornate hamlet]

is it bad that i still prefer brain rupture over assail?

[late yew]

I hate when people tag some lootable item and then pic kup

[snow scaffold]

I personally think so

[late yew]

like why the ufck would you tag it then

[gray kelp]

the usual cadence of damnation for me is someone breaks off of group -> they dont tag shit so I don't even know they're gone -> they get swarmed and go down

[late yew]

it is literally worse at everything except mosnters and carapace

against everything else assail way superior

[snow scaffold]

Get players highlight mod, makes everything so much better

[glossy onyx]

If you enjoy it then no

Its a video game man just enjoy yourself!

[ornate hamlet]

i spam BR on monsters and carapace anyway, i'm able to get a lot of kills in with my weapons alone

[ornate hamlet]

huh...fair enough, thanks m8

[gray kelp]

I think BB is fine power-wise, its just assails are really good

[glossy onyx]

Don't listen to people who say "eH iTs BaD wAaAaAh" its a video game made to be fun and relax

Unless you play invis vet

then you should die

[gray kelp]

you can focus on psykinetic wrath spamming more going BB because of warp charges on bb kills

[ornate hamlet]

i play invis zealot if that's any consolation

[glossy onyx]

Dammit

Its fine, being a based brain burst user balances it out

Oh I misread

[uncut hamlet]

quick question does brain rupture count for malleus monstronum or do you need bb unupgraded

[glossy onyx]

thats zealot

nvm invis zealot is cool

[glossy onyx]

Isn't that the penance?

[uncut hamlet]

yes

[glossy onyx]

Yes it does

[uncut hamlet]

thats great

[glossy onyx]

All the direct upgrades still count

For penances

[uncut hamlet]

niceeee

ty

[glossy onyx]

I only know that from chastice the wicked still gaining stuff even when using the upgraded one

[glossy onyx]

anytime!

[uncut hamlet]

thats probably a good precedent

[ornate hamlet]

and honestly being able to pick off a lot of dangerous shit is way too good to pass up BB

then again I've been maining psyker since the closed beta lmao

[glossy onyx]

Based as hell

[uncut hamlet]

you still can with assail, esp since snipers dont rly move so they just get headshot

and theyre the biggest threats

[ornate hamlet]

yeah but with the increased speed upgrade they go down really quick

[glossy onyx]

Yeah but specifically saying fuck you to one elite and looking him in the eye as his grey matter flies everywhere is fun

[uncut hamlet]

definitely

ive just had enough of BB after using it for a year

[glossy onyx]

Thats fair

[vapid canopy]

Best way to get max damage out of brain burst?

[glossy onyx]

idk

[gray kelp]

but yeah ignore metaslaves for this game (and by extension vermentide), understanding target priority + good base mechs > all. I remember people crying in v2 that ranged careers can't protect themselves in melee lol

[glossy onyx]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[late yew]

lmao why

[ornate hamlet]

depends, do you like RNG?

[glossy onyx]

I had a game with 3 invis vets and I wanted to cry, I now have PTSD

Mistype

sorry

[late yew]

what did they do

[glossy onyx]

Nothing

[uncut hamlet]

lmao imagine leaving the mage class to deal with a horde alone

[viscid matrix]

invis zealots only goal is to reach the elevator and live while waiting there 😄

[spice veldt]

same, I had 3 stealth zealots for a melee maelstrom

[glossy onyx]

They literally shot like 2 elites

[late yew]

Pffft

[spice veldt]

and I also kept kiting myself into corners

[late yew]

easy as fuck

with infinite smite

[vapid canopy]

Brother I’m still trying to find a squad for this monstronum challenge it’s so booty

[spice veldt]

so I just died repeatedly from having everything aggroed onto me + my inability to kite

[uncut hamlet]

until youre turned into a football by 4 muties and a nurgle

[late yew]

not with smite

[teal needle]

4 Stealth vets i wanna see

[late yew]

Will stun them all

[viscid matrix]

best bet, ask in #vox-lfg-lexicanum channels and sit in a voice channel, people will join for those

[uncut hamlet]

nurgle doesnt care

[glossy onyx]

Yeah I was lucky I had decided to run Ironhelm Thammer Zealot, I fucking horde cleared and managed to make it to the elevator too

[gray kelp]

if you get good with trauma staff you can basically beat most hordes by yourself solo because of how good it is vs mixed elites

at least IME

[teal needle]

When stuff gets rough just leave. Hit the bricks. You don't gotta stay

[uncut hamlet]

yea i love trauma tbh

trauma and dome honestly lets psyker deal with a lot of stuff solo

[glossy onyx]

I'm a Purgatus man myself

[viscid matrix]

yeh but who likes looking up to place the circle futher away

[spice veldt]

it's a beautiful sky (or ceiling)

[uncut hamlet]

blowing things into little bloody giblets is so fun

[glossy onyx]

True but thats why I have smite

[gray kelp]

for lateral kills you can use your blitz instead

I like running assails on trauma

[vapid canopy]

How do I start a vox channel and all of that

[uncut hamlet]

agreed i found i liked it a lot more than bb

[vapid canopy]

I’m on a phone

[viscid matrix]

instead of joining channel, copy the link, past it into a recruit chat, and say what you are doing

be in channel after posting link in recruit chat

[ocean phoenix]

What's the difference between left click smite and charging it with right click first, I'm sorta failing to see a difference in the psykanium between the two

[late yew]

left click is useless

right click is everything

[late yew]

Stfu

[viscid matrix]

left click

[late yew]

this description is wrong

Only difference between them is that right click can hit infinite amount of targets

left click only like 5

that's it

[gray kelp]

yeah the charge time on smite is fairly inconsequential, im not sure if left click has a ton of utility

[late yew]

I think it just might be bugged

[gray kelp]

probably

[late yew]

probably not doing intented damage

[ocean phoenix]

So basically always want to right click charge it?

[gray kelp]

I think so yeah, I can think of like very fringe cases where that fraction of a second can be useful

[full egret]

what are the best blessings for purgatus right now?

[gray kelp]

because letting go of smite knock stuff on their ass

but like 99% of the time I think jsut charge w right click

[rose dagger]

your pfp looks like my cat tobi

right before he slashes me

[gray kelp]

yeah my pfp is my cat when he wants blood

[spice veldt]

(all the time)

[gray kelp]

sometimes i get crickets near my room and he de-legs them

[autumn smelt]

Acting like the pet of a true psyker

[viscid matrix]

swap flurry for run n gun if you want to sprint left click

[autumn smelt]

But the priority is warp nexus

[vivid merlin]

is there some reference guide for soulburn stuff for dummies

[autumn smelt]

You will also be fine if you don't have either flurry or run n gun tbh, they're just slight boosts

[vivid merlin]

I don't think I understand it mechanically as of current patch

[sharp crag]

knives op

[vivid merlin]

Does purgatus apply soulburn

[naive imp]

Can assail crit?

If so…got dayum

[spice veldt]

ye

[still hearth]

Stack to 16 and enjoy

[full egret]

I really need to get tier 4 blessings >.>

[naive imp]

Wowie.

[spice veldt]

true aim + assail + crit talents

[viscid matrix]

spam buy whites of a weapon, then upgrade to blue, sacrifice for blessings, or barter away things you already have

[ebon smelt]

just made a run with it, god the surge this melts everything

[full egret]

are you more likely to get better blessings that way?

[rose dagger]

its cheaper

resource wise

[viscid matrix]

blessings are all about luck, you can wait for shop to have them, every hour, or you spam whites and upgrade to blues, you make back 1/3 of your gold, you loose out on platsteel

[gray kelp]

doesnt upgrading to orange give a higher chance for 2nd blessing to be t3-4?

would be nice if we had actual percentages

[viscid matrix]

sure, but its like 1k plat per weapon from blue to orange

its like 400ish for white to blue

[autumn smelt]

I'm pretty sure the psyker guide on Steam covers it but idk if it's updated this patch

But tldr is
Purgatus applies stacks of soul burn on hit, 2 stacks on a crit
The more stacks each target has, the more damage it will do per tick (not exact, but ie 2, 5, 9, 15, 24, 38, 52, etc, more much better than less per stack)
Wildfire node spreads stacks to enemies with less than 4, up to 4
Perilous combustion adds 4 stacks to nearby enemies when you kill elites, free damage, use this with every build
Creeping flames gives 6 stacks to everything when venting with max peril, always take this when using venting shout

[viscid matrix]

Soulburn falls off 1 stack at a time, so more stacks = longer burn and mroe damage

[autumn smelt]

True

[viscid matrix]

Purga staff caps out at 15 stacks

[autumn smelt]

And my point of more stacks more damage can be said better by saying it's semiquadratic, the jump in tick damage from one stack to the next is higher each time

[proud hare]

the penances seem dif from when game was released does that mean the other cosmetics cant be get no more?

[viscid matrix]

i think its roughly 1 stack per 10 in Burn, so you just need 70 burn to get 15 stacks

might be 75

[autumn smelt]

Every penance can still be gotten, some have just changed a little, like maintaining warp charges is done differently now

[viscid matrix]

check the redacted section

[autumn smelt]

The names of certain stuff like the old psyker ability is still in the penance names

[proud hare]

i got them all done when they was harder and then they made them easyer and now there diff @autumn smelt

[viscid matrix]

Pick nMix is easy as hell now, its only 4 in 12s instead of 5 in 10

[vivid merlin]

Ohhh shit I didn't realise soulburn fell off 1 stack a time

[autumn smelt]

Yeah I did all the old penance
pick and mix was only possible if your team never shot elites, or if you were good with kinetic barrage in hi5shock

[viscid matrix]

Cloud Radius is why supress blessing is basicly useless

[autumn smelt]

It's already useless with low radius tbh tho

[vapid canopy]

What is the best mission to get the penance done for doing most damage to a boss type enemy

[still hearth]

Iirc the first stack falls off after 8s then they go much faster

[viscid matrix]

tbh you need a ogryn with a shield, the have him agro a demon host, probably the best way to do it

[vapid canopy]

Yeah it’s just finding a mission that has a daemon host that isn’t surrounded by the least amount of pws and scarabs and all the rest

[twilit knoll]

is duelling sword a good melee weapon for psyker now, and is there a good melee oriented build for it?

[autumn smelt]

A lights out mission is ideal cuz you have 3 demonhosts throughout

[viscid matrix]

its good for mobility and single target damage, best used with a ranged weapon that has shit single target like Purga

[twilit knoll]

cool and good

[spice veldt]

they buffed the damage on them

[viscid matrix]

im partial to force swords

[spice veldt]

deimos h2

[proud hare]

them making the penances easy ruined the game for me made me feel like i wasted my time

[spice veldt]

mk4 duelly heavies

[viscid matrix]

Deimos has the advantage of a very powerful warp charged attack

[spice veldt]

o they buffed it?

[clever lynx]

does Warp Rider boost Soulblaze damage?

[viscid matrix]

believe so, best go to the psykanium and test it tho

[twilit knoll]

that's good to know, thanks for the spreadsheet. Seems it would do okay other than limited use in a horde, but as noted above, take with a staff that can handle hordes.

[viscid matrix]

not sure, but Deimos has always had a good single target with the warp charge, we just used illisi more cause its better cleave

[spice veldt]

special seems the same

[neat summit]

I only really like Deimos with purg staff

[spice veldt]

the obscurus/deimos' special is painfully average

[viscid matrix]

spread sheet is in the inspect view attack breakdowns

[spice veldt]

their only saving grace is their stagger and 200% bonus against flak

but otherwise, any combo that includes the deimos h2 will outcompete it

maybe except cara and flak

[fluid knot]

Love me Deimos poke

[neat summit]

I’m a big fan of Antax, Deimos, and Illisi. Basically the only melees I use on Psyker

Illisi is so good

[spice veldt]

@viral solstice do you happen to know how toughness damage reduction stacks? Suppose that I had 3 toughness DR nodes and Kinetic Shield. Which of the following calculations would be correct?

[autumn smelt]

The buffs to dswords are so good that I've dropped the deimos, since I used that for its pokey attacks, and now there's a better pokey stick

[teal needle]

god I just tried out the purgatus staff in the psykanium again and am not even going to try to bring that into a mission I still don't understand why anyone would ever run this thing before or after the patch

[autumn smelt]

It'll surprise you tbh

[subtle flame]

how would you make a soulblaze build?

[autumn smelt]

It staggers way more than you might think, you're a lot safer when you're blazing away

Even against elites and specialists

[viral solstice]

all toughness dr buffs stack multiplicatively

[spice veldt]

noooooooo

[viral solstice]

they're implemented as decimal multipliers like 0.9

[still hearth]

Because it has a fun thing called infinite cleave and will burn things to death after 2-3s

[teal needle]

laughing anime girl . gif

[long wharf]

not just 2-3 seconds

[subtle flame]

im trying to figure out if soulblaze is just a meme or if its actually good

[long wharf]

Purge staff got a direct damage buff that is significant

[spice veldt]

soulblaze is pretty nice

depending on how hard you want to go into it

[long wharf]

soulblaze damage wasn't changed

[narrow hare]

anyone else feel like these more expensive cosmetics are mid af

[subtle flame]

do you have a build for it?

[spice veldt]

just taking Perilous Combustion (2nd node to the left) will be good enough for most people

[long wharf]

Purge staff is super effective at directly wiping hordes now

[spice veldt]

nah, I don't run soulblaze stuff besides perilous combustion

[long wharf]

I'm having too much fun with Assail+Void+Shield

[spice veldt]

wink wink

[subtle flame]

the thing where it chains is nice

[long wharf]

how do you report someone in-game?

[viscid matrix]

i dont think you even can

[neat summit]

I go hard into Soulblaze because it makes me happy

[plucky token]

is it me or is surge staff buttcheeks now

[steel flame]

Such a busted perk. Spirals out of control super fast

[teal needle]

It's okay, it's just void strike exists

[steel flame]

I've hit 31 stacks on enemies pretty regularly now with that perk

Which is absurd

[toxic crown]

hey guys, Biolodestone or overpowering souls

[steel flame]

Surge is super good if you go full crit, completely ignore lightning and quell cancel the m1 really really fast

https://streamable.com/v3dtvl

[plucky token]

I guess I have to learn the way of the Bowling Ball Staff.

[plucky token]

Is that intended?

[steel flame]

I mean I'm using quell to cancel the cast animation. And they made it even easier and faster with the changes to quell

So sure

Totally intended

[teal needle]

There are so many horrible psykers queuing for a5 and am

[plucky token]

[teal needle]

I think people are buying the assail hype a bit too hard

[steel flame]

Yeah...

I really like it on my laspistol crit build

[teal needle]

Just landed in an AM where everyone ran in and died to literally the first horde lmao

[steel flame]

But as a supplement to my laspistol

But people are ONLY using assail

And go boom constantly

[light latch]

Anyone have gun psyker build with items to share

[teal needle]

I had a couple all psyker teams go well but so far very stacked odds that I'll be the last one standing 5 minutes into mission lmao

[steel flame]

I can give you my laspistol build in a moment

[light latch]

tyty

[steel flame]

You can sub in other guns probably, but laspistol has the highest crit chance at 29%

49% with scrier on

[steel flame]

still making tweaks, I use 3 17% toughness relics with 30% toughness regen and various other perks

i might be able to go without reasurring toughness with all the regen perks we have now

but i need to get another good laspistol to test that theory out

in which case i would go with dumbdumb

[fallow falcon]

Does anyone know what the lower bound for Warp Rider is? The same talent used to give you a 10% damage buff at 0% peril, wondering if that changed

[ripe yacht]

So what's the vibe on psyker right now? Best as support, hard carry…?

[fallow falcon]

Pretty much every build is viable

Assail is easy mode

Void staff is extremely strong

[jolly heath]

how so?

[ripe yacht]

Haven't tried void yet… not wildly sold on magic missiles. What's the use case?

[autumn smelt]

ok so

[steel flame]

https://streamable.com/7d5ua4

[jolly heath]

chewing through groups of elites, its useful on auric levels from what ive seen

[ripe yacht]

Don't get me wrong—they're cool, just… why would I take them instead of priority removal (brain burst) or cc?

[ebon smelt]

of crouse i get a two 4 perk knife on my psyker

[ripe yacht]

Really. I'd have expected it to be less useful.

[autumn smelt]

the reason voidstrike is so good after its newest patch is it has such a large damage increase on top of completely ignoring armor, on top of the fact that with the new psyker tree and its blessings, you can crit reliably, and one of the blessings fires 2 shots instead of 1 for free, which is enough to kill anything that isnt a boss in the game

[steel flame]

its really great at killing ranged groups of enemies, takking out bombers, snipers, gunners,

good cleanup

not fast vs armor

[jolly heath]

if you get empowered psionics with guaranteed charge on elite kill youll to spam knives into ranged units and clear them out completely

[autumn smelt]

its also good at CC, not as good at purgatus, but good enough that youre not missing out, cuz it can cut through a horde straight through

[steel flame]

but thats what the rest of the kit is for

[jolly heath]

i might just have to try it now

[autumn smelt]

theyre talking about voidstrike

not assail

[steel flame]

sad thing

fire void got alot worse

sadge

[jolly heath]

but they replied to me about the magic missiles, cant believe ive been lied to

[steel flame]

blazing void got worse specifically because regular void got so much better that it straight kills most things so fire doesnt get to spread much anymore

[autumn smelt]

this is a build dedicated to voidstrike along with the ideal blessings in action

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752156106071081021/1159349611270508636/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.04_-_23.19.14.23_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6530b377&is=651e3e77&hm=ff568be3ca9d4f32a9ad86892962ac111be01f5cf16c638f7539d5116fad7cee&

[ripe yacht]

Both 😄

[autumn smelt]

oh i didnt read that part

both voidstrike and assail are very good atm

[jolly heath]

oh wow

[long wharf]

oh yeah, Void is definitely improperly ignoring armor/shields

[autumn smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1159382187355942952/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.05_-_00.39.11.28_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6530d1cd&is=651e5ccd&hm=3ddf35d11cd35ede2ea379388ab4d79851e9e54288dc550287e9dd0e1e91b176&

[ripe yacht]

Better than just… BB for removing specialists?

[autumn smelt]

i said to you earlier that its litearlly in the patchnotes

[long wharf]

Void damage was buffer and cleave limit removed

[steel flame]

certainly faster and more flexible in alot of cases

[long wharf]

nothing about piercing through bulwark shields like plasgun shots

[autumn smelt]

bb is better for removing 1 specialist thats running away or really far like a sniper
assail is better for a group of them together

[ripe yacht]

Right.

Mm. Okay, I see what you're saying.

[digital narwhal]

Is it petty if me to leave any game that has an Assail Psyker in it?

I wanna be able to play the video game too

[autumn smelt]

Normalised armour modifier values for direct hit, meaning it deals the same damage regardless of armour type, with the exception of Carapace armour with a slight reduction.
direct quote

[long wharf]

petty? not really

[digital narwhal]

[long wharf]

and none of what you just pasted negates what I said

[ripe yacht]

So, what are you using in the rest of your kit then? Surge? Illisi? Bubble?

[autumn smelt]

the shield is an armor type that deals 0 damage
by hitting the shield, you hit the enemy
when you normalize the damage for that armor type, it hits for full damage

its not passing through the shield, its hitting the shield and counting that as damage toward the bulwark

[long wharf]

no, it's going through the shield entirely

and headshotting the bulwark

when I aim

[royal falcon]

hitting shields damage the bullwark now?

[long wharf]

no, the Void staff charged shots are going through the bulwark's shield now

which I'm sure is not intended

[fresh reef]

my trying to explain to my friend that Darktide is much more fun at level 30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942379275984732193/1159665969623466064/explain.mov?ex=6531da18&is=651f6518&hm=8ea0aa51435256d5444acbcc5ceaaa1a2c48dcb417df202819e1cddb8e0feebe&

[spice veldt]

hold them at gunpoint

[autumn smelt]

M35 Magnacore Mk II Plasma Gun now ignores hit zone multipliers for anything that is not a monstrosity.
i dont see a difference between "hit zone multipliers" and "armor modifier values", seeing as they can both be multipliers

[royal falcon]

bro is spittin tho

[spice veldt]

hitzone and armour are two different things

[royal falcon]

hit zone.. is that not hitbox

[spice veldt]

ragers for example take 0.85x ranged damage to their head (at least pre-patch)

which is separate from the fact that they're flak/maniac

[steel flame]

this is what hell looks like

[autumn smelt]

my brother played old psyker till level 5 and said he didnt like the game, despite me saying it gets better at level 30, he refused to believe me

this is also the same person who told me warframe gets better 300 hours in when he was trying to get me to play it

[lunar hollow]

let me guess

melee only maelstrom

[steel flame]

yup

[lunar hollow]

that shit is so ridiculous now lmfao

[steel flame]

melee only is a lie

[autumn smelt]

voidstrike in those is easy mode tbh

[lunar hollow]

the bombers

[steel flame]

so ....many....bombers

[lunar hollow]

the fucking bombers

on magistrati

or torrent

super linear map set

and u get stuck

[royal falcon]

just hit them

[lunar hollow]

with 3 grenade geralds

all fuckin

lobbin em at u

[steel flame]

like the crushers arent the issue

[autumn smelt]

works every time

[steel flame]

its getting body blocked by the crushers

[spice veldt]

he knows first-hand that you've lied

[autumn smelt]

all of the torrent maps kinda suck ass

[steel flame]

while the floor is on fire

[royal falcon]

just kill then

[lunar hollow]

yeah lmfao

like u can handle any 1-2 elements

but when a horde spawns and theres bombers/flamers setting everything on fire and u literally cannot move

[royal falcon]

lol

[autumn smelt]

no, he told ME that warframe gets better hundreds of hours in, after i had tried to get into multiple times
and he refused to believe me when i say the same for this game, but instead of a billion hours, its like 8-10 at most

he is a hypocrite of the highest degree

[steel flame]

i have trauma, crushers are never what is gonna kill me

[long wharf]

people have different tolerances for different gameplay styles

[harsh urchin]

any game that "gets better 100 hours in" is a fucking dogshit game

well

if it starts off bad

[spice veldt]

yeah he knows that you didn't get into warframe despite his recommendation

[harsh urchin]

if it starts off good and gets better like POE, then it's a good game LOL

[autumn smelt]

tbh tho
he was right
i do enjoy it now

[spice veldt]

so the joke is that he knows that he won't get into darktide

[long wharf]

sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me

[autumn smelt]

but the fact that he doesnt believe me about this one is just stupid

[harsh urchin]

lemme sodo mize you- i swear you'll like it after i do it for 100 hours

[autumn smelt]

at the very least his argument had some merit cuz ive played thousands of hours of d2, and both are looter shooters

[clever lynx]

so what perks and blessings for Voidstrike now?

[long wharf]

Diablo2 is not a looter shooter

[royal falcon]

Warframe grind 😴

[autumn smelt]

but im trying to tell him with this game
"woaw psyker builds cool! you like making builds!"
and he just says darktide missions are just destiny strikes and he finds them boring (hes played only sedition)

[autumn smelt]

destiny 2

self reporting my mental illness

[royal falcon]

this guy blows I’m sorry

[urban dove]

If i wanted to do a Gun build what would be the best gun to do so (hypothetically)

[royal falcon]

autopistol my beloved

[ripe yacht]

Damn can't imagine why someone who only plays, like, the easiest difficulty finds the game boring.

[toxic crown]

as someone who has played both, and recently started running Malice and Heresy, Darktide is much better than D2

[autumn smelt]

aaaaahhh do i get it

[fair kayak]

What am I looking for these days on Curios?

[royal falcon]

I would assume toughness regen since that’s the go-to

and uhhhhhhh stamina/block efficiency if you run deflector..?

[fair kayak]

So % toughness and Toughness Regen Speed?

[hearty python]

Upgrade Nexus or just leave it and go 25% carapace and unyeilding?

[rose dagger]

im still running +toughness main and toughness, toughness regen and health as perks

[fair kayak]

toughness/health/regen speed/gunner damage

i guess?

[autumn smelt]

i personally run 2 health, 1 wound
toughness regen, gunner resist, and sniper resist, but im looking to replace sniper resist with ability cooldown

[fair kayak]

i thought ability cooldown was bad now?

[fair kayak]

or was always bad and we didnt know it

[crude cape]

this an ok roll?

[spice veldt]

psyker's toughness regen is pretty cracked to the point that I wouldnt take toughness regen speed

[autumn smelt]

it was bad, but now with how much stronger our abilities are, id rather have 12% faster CD than the sniper resist

[royal falcon]

it’s a bit redundant since middle(?) psyker tree has like 500 ability cooldown reduction nodes

[fair kayak]

maybe corruption resistance then?

or just double up on damage reduction?

[rose dagger]

pretty good

[spice veldt]

hmm

[rose dagger]

which duelling sword is considered best rn anyway

my best roll is a mk2

[spice veldt]

mk4

[kind jay]

chainsword go brrrr

[spice veldt]

mk4 has the best single-target heavies

[late aurora]

what blessings should i go for on a surge staff

[rose dagger]

guess ill try my luck crafting one

[fallow falcon]

Are any of the dueling swords good at hordes?

[steel flame]

never have been

hence the dueling part of dueling swords

[fallow falcon]

Not sure what the point of the variants are then if they're all single target

[autumn smelt]

i just started my first game of the night and my pc instantly bluescreened the moment the fighting started

[rose dagger]

💀

[autumn smelt]

i dont even run the game on my pc, i use cloud gaming to play it
my pc is just that fucking awful

holy shit, i could rejoin the game

[steel flame]

having +55 movement speed with laspistol psyker is a real power high

[alpine axle]

yo anyone else wanna try and do malleus monstronum penace. we're 2/4 rn and i can possibly get a 3rd but 2 of us need to do it

[harsh urchin]

Diff patterns

[alpine yoke]

damn

[harsh urchin]

Try them in the practice room

[alpine yoke]

this states so clean

[spice veldt]

i wonder if not all of the changes for duelling sword made it in with this patch

[rose dagger]

base stats couldnt be better

o wait mobility dump

instead

[spice veldt]

because the mk2 h1 is worse than the mk4 heavies despite both being a stab

mk4

mk2

[crude cape]

ew

thats a huge difference

i just grimaced irl

[harsh urchin]

Are the lights on the 2 better ?

[crude cape]

i hate it when a weapon is just like, numerically inferior to a similar one for no reason

feels bad

[harsh urchin]

That's a huge diff

[crude cape]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-25378754

[rose dagger]

i have a godroll mk 2 😔

[spice veldt]

their lights have the same stats

[bold condor]

so when assail is nerfed (inevitable) brain rupture or shock?

[spice veldt]

except the mk4 lights loop into two overheads while the mk2 has some uppercuts in its loop combo

[rose dagger]

imagine theyll nerf infinite smite then too

so who knows where the balance will be

[ripe yacht]

Okay I get it y'all.

[alpine yoke]

where can i find the new patch notes?

[harsh urchin]

Some weapons have more models than necessary tbh lol

[spice veldt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/darktide-announcements/70

[harsh urchin]

Dont see why theres 3 catachans either

[spice veldt]

at least for the catachans there's some difference

i don't know the specifics of the current ones though

mk7 has the push-attack combo, mk4 has the strikedown as the first heavy, and the mk1 has the sweeps

enough of a difference to be meaningful

[harsh urchin]

Does 2 and 4 have same push attack

[bold condor]

infinite smite???

[spice veldt]

crab will know the answer to that

i've just been using the mk4 duellies for now cuz fucking crusher packs

[rose dagger]

empowered psionics makes smite generate no peril

so you just hold m1

and it lasts forever

[warped meadow]

so assail is hilarious. I barely use my weapons at all except for ogryns

[long wharf]

enjoy it while you can, it's going to get patched

[rose dagger]

one would hope

[subtle flame]

whats the best attack strat for the voidstrike?

[keen harbor]

is it just me, or does certain assail animations cause shield to not deploy and you have to mash your ability key?

[rugged bay]

Would u fear this man

(ps he’s no longer level 2)

[warped meadow]

I would never fear Bob Ross 😢

[keen harbor]

not enough afro

[rose dagger]

thinking bout deleting my 2nd zealot and making a 2nd psyker 😶
and make bank and get a ton of blessings in the process

[warped meadow]

Although exploding from too much warp peril would be a hilarious way to say "there's no mistakes, only happy accidents"

[pale matrix]

what melee do you guys think is best for psyker this patch?

[atomic zephyr]

is it possible to consecrate surge blessing in the blue tier?

[rose dagger]

deimos, illis and mk 4 duelling

[snow scaffold]

You know what is the most stressful Psyker condition I have ever played, the no melee maelstrom. There were tons and tons of armored enemies. We beat it with only 3 players and I finished with 800k damage. Such a stressful game

[steel flame]

same as last patch

and the patch before that

[rose dagger]

+mk 4 duelling

[rugged bay]

I tried the Bob Ross look but it wasn’t working out so I made him like this instead

[steel flame]

sure sure

in another reality maybe

[potent echo]

Yes? Why not

[rugged bay]

His brains would make a happy tree

[atomic zephyr]

isnt it a t4 only?

[rose dagger]

wot you talkin bout

[potent echo]

I think so

[spice veldt]

blue just means that a weapon has 1 perk and 1 blessing

you can have t4 stuff on blue weapons

[potent echo]

Blessing level has nothing to do with weapon colour

[ornate hamlet]

How's this?

[spice veldt]

would probably be semi-rare though

I'm pretty sure i've consecrated t4s from a blue weapon, but I've always upgraded my weapons to orange so I have no examples to screenshot

maybe my voidstrikes since I was farming a t4 warp flurry from blues

[rose dagger]

pretty great
i need one like that

mine was from when warp flurry was much better

[teal needle]

Pretty good! Stats aren't perfect but still great. I think the only thing I'd change is crit damage

Just go for unyielding or something, anything it crits besides a boss or maaybe mauler or crusher will just die lol

[pale matrix]

why is dueling back on the menu?

what did they change?

[teal needle]

Just a bunch more damage

[potent echo]

Big boy damage

One shot muties and ragers

[spice veldt]

deimos h2 heavies (same as before)

mk4 heavies

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike is also significantly better and is less of a middling blessing

[nocturne badge]

i just wish that opening salvo was a deadly accurate

[silent chasm]

hey I was looking at staff skins, it claims to be equippable on other staves, is that true? Like can I skin a Voidstrike staff like a Purgatus staff?

[silent chasm]

Oooh, what jackie is that?

[half crater]

empowered psionics or disrupt destiny on assail psyker?

[potent echo]

Yea you can

[nocturne badge]

empowered psionics

[silent chasm]

raaad

[potent echo]

Either really

[half crater]

what makes it better?

[nocturne badge]

better peril management, more damage

[silent chasm]

EP just feels like "the good one" but either seems usable on assail. I certainly wouldn't use it with anything else.

[alpine yoke]

damn this is the best i ever get

[true lake]

better get some good blessings on it

[half crater]

ok on empowered psionics do you get the guaranteed stack on elite kills or the one that increases chance from7.5% to 12.5%?

[nocturne badge]

not only do your first 2-3 shards do 50% more base damage, they cost no peril and take no charges meaning your volley is significantly more powerful

[fair kayak]

elite kills

[silent chasm]

I like the 12.5% but I use smite. For crystals, elites seems better.

[spice veldt]

i run 12.5% with assail since I use it as my main weapon

[silent chasm]

since you're the elite sniper when you're using the bic pens anyway

[spice veldt]

and also because Overpowered only affects elites and not including specialists

[silent chasm]

oh really? screw it then

[spice veldt]

seems like fatshark is beginning to use the elite/special terms properly

[snow coral]

so... I quickplayed an auric, but I'm pretty sure it downgraded me to a regular mission... anyone else experienced that?

[silent chasm]

do headshots with the assail count as crits?

[spice veldt]

weakspots and crits are different systems

though with Assail, whether it hits a weakspot or not is basically probablistic

[silent chasm]

nod. Was wondering if I wanted Mettle or not.

[spice veldt]

there's the True Aim feat down on the branch to Disrupt Destiny which gives you a guaranteed ranged crit every 5 weakspot hits

so if you run that, then you'll want mettle and the node below it

(melee weapons can build up True Aim stacks, but it won't consume it)

and if you're going for crit, you should take Empathic Evasion (ranged dodge for 1 second on crit hit)

[silent chasm]

nod, will consider for a DD build if'in I do one.

RN I kinda love EP too much

free brainwizardry!

[spice veldt]

i've fit True Aim into my EP build

my current build #psyker-class message

[rugged bay]

Lemme check. It’s from hallowette

[silent chasm]

thank

[rugged bay]

Protectus pattern psyker livery

[silent chasm]

👍

[pale matrix]

jesus

[copper jay]

smite don't generate peril when used will having empowered psionics charge ?

[rigid blade]

Today I learned that Dome shield and Warp charges go very well together

[steel flame]

god trying to undo a year of muscle memory is so hard

[potent echo]

Bugged, have fun

[shrewd comet]

is there a way to mute peril??

its so damn loud

[quartz eagle]

meeting up to talk about warp crystals we found

justpsykerthings

[spice veldt]

options > interface > peril FX (controls both the visuals and audio)

[subtle flame]

can you change a specific stat on a weapon? like finesse?

[spice veldt]

no system currently to change the stats of weapons

[shrewd comet]

wonder why its not in audio.

[spice veldt]

it's fixed in place

[shrewd comet]

alright ty

[tawdry drum]

@spice veldt Arc I need the Palpatine psyker build that lets me melt hordes of elites and specials

[spice veldt]

i've not been running surge and smite at all since i wouldn't know

prob just go for soulblaze stuff like with venting shriek + ascendant blaze and let that do the work

[tawdry drum]

https://tenor.com/view/boycott-cnn-gif-17712575278259034962

[queen trout]

anyone notice how busted the mk 4 dueling sword is

its heavies do more damage then the unpowered deimos 2nd heavy

[spice veldt]

god bless america https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[plucky perch]

fellow spark heads what build do ya thin compliments the truama force staff properly?

[teal needle]

The Surge blessing on Voidstrike is a freaking cryptid I swear to god

I have never seen it in this game

[royal falcon]

most entertaining psyker gameplay (used assail)

such a goofy ability lmao

[snow coral]

I think I've found my new playstyle I like. Void Smite Dome is pretty good. I'm not breaking domes like with a burge but I can usually throw down one and then have another one ready to go right away

And smite without Empowered is still fine, having the extra damage from all sources is great

[keen harbor]

that's pretty similar to what I have tried.
If you can nail elites with void, it should be pretty good for damnation

[teal needle]

Am I correctly assessing that Sustained Fire on the voidstrike staff only works for primary?

[soft notch]

Does anyone have recommendations for a beginner psyker guide? Video or text is fine.

[royal falcon]

should be a guide in the pins I think

[keen harbor]

the first one

[soft notch]

Ah okay! I thought that wouldn’t be right for me since it mentions it’s for vets 😅

[keen harbor]

The playstyle changed quite a bit

[soft notch]

Yeah I figured, but maybe it could be a decent primer?

[keen harbor]

If you have a lvl1 psyker, then I think it plays mostly the same as before, as you won't have tree skills that change up how it's played

[true lake]

yeah i plan on giving it a try to complete the look of my gun psyker

[rugged bay]

I totally didn’t overload my brain and explode as the last person alive

[true lake]

trader hat with the big iron and a duelling sword

[true lake]

we all do it once, i did it last night on a damnation lol

got a little funny with the assail spam

[brave turret]

if you get 6 warp charges with peril restiance and two talents with -5% peril generation

a assail shard will only cost 6% peril

[rugged bay]

Nice

This guy seems trustworthy. Hope he doesn’t try to kill the emperor or anything. That would be bad

[brave turret]

oh dam

[rugged bay]

Naahhhh. Totally won’t happen…right?

[brave turret]

i just realized that assail shards will follow targets along where your aiming

[rugged bay]

Yeah I call it the yaka arrow lol

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

[brave turret]

if you fired at one direction and then look the other way it will turn that way sometimes

[spice veldt]

from what I've seen; if the shard is near a target that your cursor is hovered over, then it will lock onto them

[keen harbor]

I think it locks on with right click

[rugged bay]

I’m on Xbox so I just spam it lol

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a guaranteed lockon with a longer range of up to 50m

too slow to be used for anything else though besides enemies at a far away range

[brave turret]

it has a soft lock when your not aiming

and you can guide it while it flies

*flys

and after it hits a target

[keen harbor]

I see, I'll have to try that

[rugged bay]

The imperium: ur injuries r minor and u can still fight
Me:

[snow coral]

yeah I've been hitting up auric and as long as the team is competent we're clearing them

[brave turret]

@keen harbor

[keen harbor]

now I'll not spam it as much and try aiming

[brave turret]

you can spam mutiple and they still follow the cursor

[spice veldt]

waving your mouse around wildly is also a valid strat

[willow hazel]

Assail is kinda nutty

[spice veldt]

pro gaming time

[keen harbor]

yeah, but most things die in one hit with it

it's so good that I barely use my voidstrike

[spice veldt]

p much

blitz + melee

BB + illisi before this patch, and assail + mk4 duellies this patch

god bless

[lunar hollow]

i just run around with void and assail for the most part

[gray kelp]

surge + assail starting to grow on me...surge is great at nuking ogryns/mutants

[spice veldt]

the void is good now but i still dislike using it

so i just run with the mk4 duellies most time

[lunar hollow]

pull out ds to deal with irritating muties and specials right in my face

[willow hazel]

Revolver also helps with assail because it's a fast switch

[lunar hollow]

i liked void when i first started playing so its feelsgood that its useful now

[spice veldt]

and hand-cannon applying to assails that crit 😎

[snow coral]

assail is no fun, it's too easy

[spice veldt]

i love curbstomping matches

my teammates don't deserve to play, of course

[gray kelp]

are you playing on damnation? assails feel super busted on heretic but not as much on damnation

still really good though

[snow coral]

damnation or auric

[spice veldt]

it is absolutely fucking busted on damnation

[autumn smelt]

buy the new one or keep the old one

[autumn smelt]

would replace shred with riposte most likely, and carapace to maniac

[keen harbor]

if you bring 2x assail psykers, you basically don't have to ever pull out your gun in damnation as the other 3 classes.

[lunar hollow]

new one has better perks i think

i like shred/uncanny on ds

solid combo

cool if u get stuck in a small room having to 1v1 a plogryn with 2 teammates dead

(this did in fact happen to me)

(i did in fact win the 1v1)

[spice veldt]

you can get a semi-reliable two-shot on crushers with uncanny + shred w/ +carapace as long as one of your heavies crit

[primal radish]

you can quell while in scriers? so you never have to leave scriers gaze?

[spice veldt]

ye, but the peril gen ramps up over time

to the point that you will spend more tiime quelling than it was worth

[autumn smelt]

i guess im underselling shred then, i assumed riposte would have been better

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[autumn smelt]

and yes, that was the idea tbh

[primal radish]

but with assail i only need a split second to throw knife and quell

[spice veldt]

ye, it'll still be fine for the first few seconds

[autumn smelt]

mainly a weapon for mutants, ragers, and monstrosities

[spice veldt]

but it gets significantly worse over time

and because of how quelling works, you'll have to be at high peril to quell faster, and it's a little harder to control that way

[lunar hollow]

yea i'd swap to the new one then

[autumn smelt]

assuming i get a t4 of both, which would you say is better, shred or uncanny

[lunar hollow]

uncanny

[spice veldt]

also I just realized that riposte is +crit for 6 seconds

[willow hazel]

uncanny

[lunar hollow]

ur gettin more direct damage from t4 uncanny vs t4 shred

[autumn smelt]

yeah thats why i thought it was better

6 seconds is actualy kinda fucking huge

[spice veldt]

hmmm

[lunar hollow]

riposte/precog is also fine tbh

[autumn smelt]

thats so many heavy hits

[spice veldt]

i might actually pop over to riposte instead of shred

[lunar hollow]

but perks on the first one are bad

[autumn smelt]

precog tho

kinda dont like it

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a decent bonus but it's also only 2 seconds

[autumn smelt]

with how far you dodge with it, its hard to make use of it

[willow hazel]

Uncanny works with the soulblaze from Perilous Combustion too

[ornate hamlet]

Whats the fastest mission type? Trying a super speed build

[spice veldt]

i think you're going to get a lot of use out of it with an assail build and swapping to it for them assail headshots/crits

[autumn smelt]

youre typically out of range from the dodge itself to use it

[spice veldt]

but otherwise not really

[autumn smelt]

since the dodge is so massive

[spice veldt]

hmm do i have uncanny or shred locked onto my duelly

[tough stump]

man

[spice veldt]

WOOO it was shred that was locked

fuck yeah

riposte time

[tough stump]

diatamine

never used

2.5k

[willow hazel]

Is it possible to roll Agile on Dueling Swords?

[spice veldt]

i don't see it in the blessing menu, so probably not

[autumn smelt]

i dont think its actually in the game yet

its on gamelantern, but not in game

[feral juniper]

you use more plastell than diatamine which then builds up and i hate it i just want plastell for fucks sake

[autumn smelt]

OH SHIT SON

i had this lying around

upgrade time

[lyric burrow]

is the strat for trying to get a certain blessing upgrading to blue or orange? been forever since i had to do it

[spice veldt]

damn riposte does last for a good long time

[autumn smelt]

if only precog also lasted 6 seconds

unfortunately i dont see myself having it as active as shred, since chained hits got juiced

[maiden barn]

aight whos the youtuber who made the smite video, I have to pay him to make a video that says not to use smite next so I can get my fps back

[autumn smelt]

actually, chained hits last 3.5 seconds, so shred synergizes with uncanny better

[lunar hollow]

if ur weakspottin it up with uncanny

ur gettin value out of shred

[lethal plover]

yeah smite is really hurting fps lol

[grizzled ocean]

is empower psyonics bugged with smite. Was just able to use smite without getting any peril

[snow coral]

yes

[grizzled ocean]

ok thats what I thought lol, was just holding smite for like 3 minutes deleting hordes

[limber heath]

which staff is the one that throws a big projectile. i need something for carapace and monsters since nobody ever seems to be able to kill the latter.

is it voidstrike?

[willow hazel]

Yes

It isn't great against monsters though.

[limber heath]

fuck

are there any staffs good against monsters

[gray kelp]

surge might be ok would have to test

also damnation quickplay is CBT right now, it's unplayable if i dont just go full hard carry assail/barrier psyker lol

[white cedar]

I wish assail can go full auto by holding click lol

[lament sparrow]

whats the best ranged to pair with biolightning?

[gray kelp]

surge maybe? it got reworked to being sort of a single target nuker

[willow hazel]

Vrak 3 is good against monsters

[gray kelp]

maybe some type of gun, I don't run guns on psykers though so i wouldnt know

[potent echo]

Surge assail is great fun

[gray kelp]

yeah really warming up to it, they have great synergy

[potent echo]

New surge is so mobile, I ended up picking mind in motion because of the tree and it somehow pairs really well

[lament sparrow]

so how exactly is assail supposed to be used? its clearly not to clear hordes

[gray kelp]

assail mulches hordes wdym

[potent echo]

You throw knives and you have to manual aim

[gray kelp]

hold your cursor over mobs and the projectiles go to them

[lament sparrow]

smite does it better

[potent echo]

It's not that helpful if the horde is in your face

Use it from further away

[river dawn]

Can someone explain "Secondary action Burning intensity" on the Purgatus and why it goes down with higher damage %?

[lament sparrow]

ive stopped massive hordes right on my face with smite

[gray kelp]

are you using empowered smite bug?

[potent echo]

It's the time delay between burn ticks

[lament sparrow]

bug?

it stund fodder

[potent echo]

Lower means faster burn application

[gray kelp]

empowered smite can be held down infinitely to literally stunlock an entire horde

[spice veldt]

assail does 40 groaners in 7 seconds and 80 poxwalkers in 30 seconds

[gray kelp]

and obliterate your framerate from the smoke particles lol

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/pz3ajy

[river dawn]

Oh i see, so do i aim for higher damage or it doesnt matter as much as radius + burn?

[left mirage]

is there a mod that tunes down emp smite

[potent echo]

No, burn and radius

[left mirage]

visual effects

[lament sparrow]

why is it that we still cant swap equipment in the psykhanium

[left mirage]

its nuking my frames

[potent echo]

Damage not super important

[spice veldt]

interact with the yellow crate

[lament sparrow]

im stupid

[river dawn]

Alright thanks!

[lament sparrow]

the way i kept going in and out every time i wanted to swap something lmaooo

[potent echo]

Radius max for 16m range, burn you want to see 16(?) Stacks max

[lament sparrow]

isnt the flamethrower good for assail? a short range stopper

[potent echo]

Purge assail is great

Purge brainburst also great (mainly for the cooldown node)

[gray kelp]

purg is good, personally if I go purg id go all in on a soulblaze build

which means focusing more on staff and going psykinetic wrath/maybe BB for stacks

[uncut violet]

Anyone know if there's a viable melee focused Psyker build

[potent echo]

Yea purg with warpcharges and burning shriek is amazing

[compact cargo]

But have you tried volver assail?

[potent echo]

Staves and assail are too powerful, not such real thing as melee psyker

There aren't any melee nodes for psyker

[spice veldt]

pre-patch melee psyker was the illisi

[lament sparrow]

i wish there was another force melee

[gray kelp]

mk4 duelling sword is a good melee weapon but otherwise psykers dont have much overt melee support in tree

[potent echo]

Force greatsword please

[compact cargo]

We got 3 buffs that work for melee, 4 for warp based melee, but only special sadly.

[gray kelp]

I suppose you could go the wall barrier and hold chokepoints, but that's more of a gimmick flavor sort of thing than anything

[potent echo]

Purgatus staff almost basically makes melee psyker pointless

[worn cypress]

I frankly consider purg staff a melee weapon

[uncut violet]

Yeah my friend is trying to theorycraft a melee focused build but nothing really seems that good

[potent echo]

And purg is not even considered melee

16m range

[spice veldt]

melee psyker was nice for sniping specials and diving ranged patrols

[gray kelp]

as others have said psyker just has too many good tools to have much of a reason to use melee other than repositioning rn

[compact cargo]

Warp charge, warp damage for non warp damage (easy to farm), 20% damage from high peril and crits from the funny crit f.

It all buffs melee damage

[worn cypress]

playing purg on basically melee range like a discount zealot is a lot of fun

[proud hinge]

guys apparently the "smite" ability is just like Emporer Palpatine from Star Wars 😂😂😂

[lament sparrow]

for venting shriek, is warp rupture or creeping flames better?

[uncut violet]

We're not factoring in reason

[potent echo]

Yea but you do the same thing with a purg and its just better

[spice veldt]

creeping flames, because that has actual synergy with your talents

(soulblaze counts as a warp attack)

[proud hinge]

fatshark are star wars fans??? 😂 😂 😂 😂

[potent echo]

Only one issue, soulblaze doesn't proc new WnR

[gray kelp]

that's fair

[worn cypress]

wait really

[compact cargo]

Soulblaze yet again been painful

[potent echo]

It alr has enough support to make it really good so it's alright for me

I've actually been taking wildfire and it's actually helpful

Not that wildfire actually kills things, but it preseasons the next group of enemies with 4 stacks alr

[worn cypress]

yeah really enjoying wildfire now

well I’ve always liked it

[gray kelp]

are you trying to like go full melee or do more of a ranged/melee hybrid? I don't think full melee has any real support but you might be able to cobble together an interesting hybrid

[worn cypress]

but like, you used to not be able to justify it

[potent echo]

It was going up against 6 charges pre-patch, so no go then

Now it's convenient to take

[worn cypress]

now wildfire’s a free node

yeah

[potent echo]

Also creeping flames being based on peril is really dumb because it's so good

[uncut violet]

Full melee if possible to get anything even close to synergystic or viable

If not then he'd just have to settle for hybrid

[potent echo]

You can just don't use ranged or blitz

Take a combat axe and destiny keystone

[gray kelp]

The only thing that I can really think of for full melee is to utilize the peril on block talent as an engine for psykinetic wrath soulblaze nuking

[uncut violet]

We already surmized that the blitz would be an empty point lmao

[potent echo]

There's no such thing as melee only unless you literally unbind range and blitz from your keyboard

[gray kelp]

but you don't have a reliable way to generate warp charges if not using brain burst/soulblaze kill procs

[uncut violet]

Psychic vampire and just be lucky

Easy

[gray kelp]

4% ezclap

[potent echo]

Or just kill elites and specials, they spawn everywhere

[worn cypress]

oh if reason is not a part of the consideration

blazing spirit sword with wildfire is a lot of meme fun

[gray kelp]

the constraint is being as melee as possible. Walking into a bunch of elites as a psyker to kill them before doing anything to protect yourself is super sketchy

[potent echo]

Actually they can consider going revolver

[spice veldt]

it'll be fine as long as they aren't a mauler/crusher/bulwark pack

[potent echo]

There's not alot of ammo, so you have to rely on melee primarily

[worn cypress]

actually blazing spirit illisi or something would be marginally more useful now since shit wont instantly die

[uncut violet]

I'm getting some good ideas out of this

And by good ideas I mean ideas that are gonna get us killed in auric but all good

[potent echo]

Take the new chainsword

[gray kelp]

thats how you have fun in this game go fuck em up

[potent echo]

With some cleave blessings

[worn cypress]

it’s always been weak but sometimes you just wanna meme shit out while your friend carries yknow

[limber heath]

ooh.. forgot guns existed LMAO

is vrak the best gun available to psyker for monsters

[uncut violet]

The only reason I'm even trying to help him with this is because he wants to play Sienna but in Darktide

Pain

[potent echo]

I wish there's unchained in darktide

[north cradle]

Thanks game.

[gray kelp]

when you can't teleport around the map and kill 100 poxwalkers instantly sadge

[near wyvern]

It either needs more damage or lowered peril cost.

[north cradle]

Just double-checking, but staff Blessings are per staff, right? Nothing is shared?

[limber heath]

does dueling sword do well against monsters or is it better against armored

i kinda want something that fills the hole assail leaves

since assail seems kinda dumb shit against monsters

but maybe i'm just used to thammer

[north cradle]

Try Surge Staff, it's great against Armoured

[gray kelp]

IME learnt blessings only apply for that staff, e.g. if you learn warp flurry on voidstrike you wont have it to re-bless on a trauma

[north cradle]

Tremendous

[potent echo]

Actually they reverted that

[north cradle]

wut

[potent echo]

100% to all damage types now

Or roughly 100%

[north cradle]

Oh nice

[potent echo]

Even unarmored

[spice veldt]

mk4 duellies kills a plogryn in ~50 seconds which is ok

[wet belfry]

I use it to 1 bonk mutants.

[gray kelp]

yeah surge does good single target to pretty much everything

its really nice

[limber heath]

and then for carapace what should i consider? new to psyker, just hit like lv29 or something lol sorry for the questions

[gray kelp]

more fun than being a cc slave lol

[spice veldt]

no worries

[north cradle]

Ah yeah nice

[spice veldt]

uhhh, voidstrike will be the main recommendation

[potent echo]

Maybe I should put 25% unyielding on my duelly

Whenever a boss spawns I just start sobbing uncontrollably

[limber heath]

wait... is there a way to cover monsters and carapace with my melee and ranged

[spice veldt]

for me, I'm basically sticking to my pre-patch build but with assail + mk4 duellies, so I personally run Trauma

[limber heath]

oh wait

duelly

is

sword

[spice veldt]

ye

depending on how your mk4 duellies are specced, you can two-shot crushers as long as one of your hits was a crit

[potent echo]

Uncanny strikes

[north cradle]

Wait I just checked the Voidstrike, ooh baby

[worn cypress]

voidstrike is mega overtuned right now, and its an easy staff to learn thats pretty good at doing most things

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[limber heath]

ight time to get a voidstrike and duelly

[gray kelp]

casual 70% damage increase

[north cradle]

What should I tune

[worn cypress]

focused to transfer peril personally

[gray kelp]

the guy who makes sure everything is undertuned when a fatshark game launches is crying and punching his pillow over voidstrike/assails atm

[north cradle]

I only have Transfer Peril 1 because Melk hates me

[spice veldt]

Surge is a nice blessing now, because psyker now has the True Aim feat

[wet belfry]

Hey its stopped melee psyker from being the most viable build

[north cradle]

I don't have Surge either Pepega

[spice veldt]

i cri

[wet belfry]

No more op illisi with slaughterer

[potent echo]

Friendship with illisi has ended

[spice veldt]

no more hordeclear melee + antiarmour blitz

[potent echo]

I rather take a combat axe now actually

[spice veldt]

now it's antiarmour melee + hordeclear blitz

god bless america

[gray kelp]

i was taking a break when ilisi got added, I just remember being a revive bot with deflector + peril on block and going either surge or voidstrike

[worn cypress]

ngl I’m glad for the meta shakeup on melee

always liked duellies more

[gray kelp]

and coping that force sword wasnt that bad bc infinite dodges

[plucky flax]

Illisi is still good tho and deflector got buffed.

[worn cypress]

yeah its still solid

[wet belfry]

Illisi was the best melee weapon during that period

[worn cypress]

just not straight up too good anymore

[wet belfry]

Insane dps combined with strong versatility.

[plucky flax]

Just 40% power instead of 75%.

[lament sparrow]

i want a force spear for psyker sooo bad

[gray kelp]

from the looks of it im guessing mk4 dueling sabre is what people prefer now

[worn cypress]

I want a force thammer

[potent echo]

I personally think illisi feels bad to use purely because clearing out ambients is a chore

[gray kelp]

what I really want is a big ogryn 2-hander that takes like 2 seconds to swing but just ragdolls enemies across the room

[potent echo]

Like nothing dies you gotta swing like 3 times to kill one thing

[north cradle]

I miss my two-swing Illisi too

[worn cypress]

mk4 duelly is popular with the deimos crowd

[summer prairie]

With the current assail+void it's hard to find a reason to switch to melee except when you have to be defensive; a deflector deimos may still be best utility

[worn cypress]

in particular

[potent echo]

Just to check unstable power wasn't buffed right? It was just a text change?

Or is it actually 80% power now

[limber heath]

also does this look fine for assail (i am missing one talent point which i'll probably put somewhere)

[brazen warren]

I don't think I have a god roll surge staff, but it does charge faster than void strike so for pure single target dps it is better. Higher difficulty missions add in alot of fodder around the armored targets however, so void ends up winning out because it is much better at cleaving and hit stunning multiple targets via suppression

[potent echo]

Main advantage surge has is adaptability

You can quickly swap from assail to surge and give one nice surge tap

Void charges slightly slower

We are talking like less than a second difference but hey

[worn cypress]

ehh I would say that its minutiae difference

[gray kelp]

trauma + surge give you a bit more control, voidstrike gives you goku ki blasts

[worn cypress]

surge panic blow up your feet is fast enough

uh I meant void

not surge

[potent echo]

Void with surge blessing

Thanks fatshark

[brazen warren]

void has crazy suppression too if you spam 0% charge shots

[worn cypress]

yea

you used to be able to anim glitch spam it too

with transfer peril it was permastun

[potent echo]

I love that the made left click ball much faster

No need to quell cancel anymore

[worn cypress]

void hands down has the best SFX tho, worth playing just for the schlap

[lofty temple]

True.

Too bad it's not a hipster choice anymore so I can't use it

[worn cypress]

whats the hipster choice now

[lament sparrow]

does aiming with assail make it do more damage?

[worn cypress]

purg I guess? lotsa haters recently

[spice veldt]

the RMB doesn't affect the damage

[plucky flax]

Purga is the weakest staff.

[spice veldt]

it only seems to guarantee a lock-on onto an aimed enemy (up to 50m)

too slow and generates 15% more peril

[lament sparrow]

is voidstrike the best long range staff?

[honest frigate]

No, but thats how youre meant to use it. The projectiles automatically home in on the targets near your crosshairs

Holding right click and releasing makes the projectile slightly faster i think

[lament sparrow]

yeah but it uses way more peril

[honest frigate]

How?