#psyker-class

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left hare
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Is there a breakpoint i need to hit with that build or is it just get a stave with 2 blessings

idle bay
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Yup.
1)Machinegun-Void staff without animation cancel, just hold RMB and click LMB fast
2) Hold Vent Peril + spam Assail - forget about blowing yourself up.
Any more ? ๐Ÿ™‚

left hare
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infinite dome?

shadow acorn
lavish comet
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So its only usable with the bug, compared to the shards?

gaunt stone
urban dove
gaunt stone
urban dove
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For the record I haven't tested if the infinite dome thing works with the walls version

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Because that could be better tbh

lavish comet
gaunt stone
shadow quail
shadow acorn
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For those with mods, what is the normal ish amount of damage you get in a damnation game?

gaunt stone
urban dove
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What's the difference between left click and right click on the surge hands ?

idle bay
shadow acorn
thorn tapir
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please fix dome, as a dome main i find it kind of annoying to constantly get free domes.

urban dove
thorn tapir
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im intentionally trying not to abuse it

ornate hamlet
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i just wished it made brain burst do a little more damage

shadow acorn
idle bay
urban dove
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I want to make like a full build with enhanced psychics and Asail. But I just end up killing myself

ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
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i think thats kind of what its mainly made for

idle bay
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Surge staff was my favorite and they... they KILLED it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

grand lake
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im reading a lot of "void" is broken, why is that? You guys are talking about the chi ball staff right ?

lofty temple
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use it that way

urban dove
lavish comet
gaunt stone
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Tbh if they nerf Assail idk how you play Surge staff I feel like they work well together.

grand lake
idle bay
ornate hamlet
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with the enhanced pysonics

analog agate
ornate hamlet
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its so easy constantly getting charges for it

urban dove
ornate hamlet
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all you need is purg staff and a chads strut

ornate hamlet
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its meant to be a tank sniper

shadow acorn
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How is purgatus now? Anyone mess around with it today?

ornate hamlet
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still good

gaunt stone
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I did it's more or less the same

ornate hamlet
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still fucks hard

urban dove
idle bay
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Siblings - what to do with our Boss damage after patch?

shadow acorn
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But it didn't get the lords buff like the Void?

gaunt stone
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Boss damage still weakish

lavish comet
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Anyone tested the good old BURN THEM ALL strategy?
Is Purgatus any good?

ornate hamlet
urban dove
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Nah

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Just copium

analog agate
indigo portal
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Works, isn't broken, isn't bad.

ornate hamlet
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hope they do something like that or flat out add a new class like a tech priest thing or a ratling

idle bay
gaunt stone
ornate hamlet
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good shit

urban dove
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As a purge main I just copuim for a soulflame skill tree. And a soulflame skill/blitz

thorn tapir
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I played 3 auric 5 games of psyker today. still slaps.

idle bay
urban dove
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Idk why we got a lightning blitz

ornate hamlet
gaunt stone
ornate hamlet
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be a fucking psychic flak canon

manic flint
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@urban dove could be cool if you could spend a talent to turn it into flames.

shadow acorn
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Just put in a perk where we get +50% power, but if you blow up you turn into a choas spawn.

ornate hamlet
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use the revolver

thorn tapir
idle bay
# ornate hamlet nah mate

Used to be fav weapon on all human sized operatives. Though it only deal good boss damage on Vet...

urban dove
gaunt stone
shadow quail
urban dove
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There's 3 perks bros and sisters

thorn tapir
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kind of... nothing that amps soulflames damage or utility.

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sorry soulblaze

urban dove
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Three whole perks for soulflame . But nothing that adds new stuff to soul blaze

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Like I said a blitz or a skill for soul blaze would have been dope

idle bay
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if only Fatsharked amped Soulfire damage like they did with Bleed

thorn tapir
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fire is way harder to balance than bleed

urban dove
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I would have preferred any thing else besides Unlimited power. Cuz wr already had a staff for that no need to add a blitz for it

gaunt stone
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Psyker needs a soul blaze grenade launcher staff

regal jasper
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I got the voice line where my psyker referred to beloved as a he and i shouted โ€œim gay?!?!?!โ€ Very loudly

idle bay
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Balance is Heresy. Let us have unlimited unhiged FUN!

lofty temple
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It's good

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Smite is good

urban dove
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Good for you brother box

lofty temple
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Surge is good

shadow quail
thorn tapir
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

regal jasper
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Yeah my old boyfriend never told me

idle bay
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This patch i think i'll hit 1500 missions mark way sooner than i expected ๐Ÿ™‚

urban dove
lofty temple
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Perildump into a horde with smite, press F to cast soulblaze on the horde

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Add wildfire into the mix...

urban dove
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Like I said soulblaze is currently am after thought. You just have it as a side part of a different main build

primal radish
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wait so warp charges are a keystone now and not every build even uses warp charges??

lofty temple
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Yeah.

primal radish
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no more having to maintain stacks if u go other keystones

shadow quail
regal jasper
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Do the old penances need to be fixed?

urban dove
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Welcome brother Kayl

urban dove
primal radish
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im free from warp charge stacks ho yeaaa

idle bay
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Other keystones - you have to keep an eye on another stacks ๐Ÿ™‚

lofty temple
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I'm not

shadow quail
lofty temple
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I still take my trusty warp charges

shadow quail
urban dove
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Also with this active of a chat can we talk about the skill tree racism ? ๐Ÿค”

lavish comet
urban dove
lofty temple
urban dove
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Why do we have diagonally connectors and the other classes have strait lines ?

lofty temple
# urban dove

Psykers are crazy and wacky and crooked and their tree reflects that

idle bay
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Each time i re-build my psyker i have to go grab last one missing +15 toughness node and it's sucks

shadow quail
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So we can mix and match more than any other class

urban dove
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It's so hard for us to pivot

urban dove
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We can't mix like others can

idle bay
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There will be wave of nerfs ofc beacuse whinly little b... on forums ๐Ÿ™‚

urban dove
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Because of the strait lines on all other class trees they can go from far right to far left easy. We can't We have to go down diagonal

white hemlock
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all fire all the time felt strong

lethal plover
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while smiting can people block or do sth ?

cyan notch
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no

honest frigate
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No

lethal plover
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what's the strategy to play smiting well

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feels like it's easy to get interrupted by randos

honest frigate
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Stay back and CC the hordes

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Idk Smite honestly seems like a support blitz ability

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Its not bad

idle bay
honest frigate
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Its jsut not very offensive

idle bay
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Whole point of simte to CC enemies for your team to kill them easier

honest frigate
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Yeah

lethal plover
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yeah it's not very offensive but I just saw a good smite player in auric maelstrom and it was the easiest run I had so far

honest frigate
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And smite is able to stunlock even stuff like maniacs

lethal plover
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makes my job so much easier

honest frigate
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Its good

ionic needle
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Why can't I pick assail and psykinetic aura!? God damn it fatshark

idle bay
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It takes AGES to kill basic trash with smite... so

honest frigate
idle bay
lethal plover
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now I feel like there has to be a dedicated smite player who can stop the train of crushers

honest frigate
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Yeah Assail is really good

ionic needle
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It's extra frustrating because it's just a single node away... in the wrong direction :<

wild bramble
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Is the psyker most popular class now? I played with 3 psyker teams today

idle bay
honest frigate
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Its definitely much more fun... not that it wasnt beforr already

lethal plover
honest frigate
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Spamming warp shards everywhere is very epic

lethal plover
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it's definitely much easier when you have both

ionic needle
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Yeah assail is a lot of fun, just have to figure out what to pair it with to still delete carapace

lethal plover
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infinite duration smiting almost seems like a bug

dense prism
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assail have been really good so far

ionic needle
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It's probably a bug, the effect isn't listed in the tooltip

wild bramble
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Is smiting more like supportive or dps?

lethal plover
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entirely support

honest frigate
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Voidstrike is good tho

ionic needle
idle bay
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Assail in team makes "kill 750 dregs/scabs in melee " weekly nearly impossible

lethal plover
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you won't kill anything but your team will have it much easier, especially against crushers trains

wild bramble
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Did they made surge staff range smaller?

idle bay
lofty temple
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Surge staff is the plasma gun now

ionic needle
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Is it good vs carapace?

lofty temple
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Put warp nexus on it

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And enjoy

idle bay
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I liked old Surge staff more

lofty temple
lethal plover
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old surge was too good so they split damage aspect into the staff and CC into the smite

lofty temple
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No it wasn't lol

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It dealt horrible damage

dense prism
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agaisnt armored surge do decent damage

tired estuary
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its a shame at least some of the surgebrains are going to move on to using smite on horde now

ionic needle
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So maybe pair assail with surge and illisi?

lethal plover
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that's the point, new surge has better damage and new blitz has better CC
old surge has a mix of both

dense prism
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surge was really strong due to the fact that surge have a niche of providng good CC.

wild bramble
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Is the normal shield skill or circle shield better?

lofty temple
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My near godrolled surge can almost 1shot most specials now

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If I roll a new one, with better perks...

ionic needle
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What perks and blessings do you want on it?

idle bay
dense ivy
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BRUH

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I can two shot crushers witha Voidstrike

lethal plover
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yeah we can kill stuff pretty well now
the game will just spawn many more elites / specials

dense ivy
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I have the "double shot on crit" blessing too

lofty temple
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or Unyielding

dense ivy
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So if I crit I straight one shot a Crusher

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How quick is this getting dumpstered

lethal plover
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yes voidstrike headshot deals like 2700 or oneshot on crit sth on crushers

idle bay
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And if it's Void with surge blessing.... you have an Overkill shot

lethal plover
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but in a real match getting a full charge can be rough

lofty temple
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You can get a 50/50 crit chance on Surge

dense ivy
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I mean

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ONLY killing them in 3 shots is hardly that bad if you spam it at 50%

lethal plover
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that's why when I used void with a good smiter nearby it was a cakewalk

neat hearth
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There have been so many listerine psykers today holy shit
Purgatorus my beloved

lofty temple
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What makes a smiter good?

dense ivy
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New brainburst is very good with peril reduction tree

lethal plover
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smite for the whole encounter without being interrupted

neat hearth
manic flint
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ahahahahahaha

neat hearth
idle bay
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Though i switched to SPLAT

neat hearth
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It feels like the old meta psyker build I used but far more fun and flexible

humble swan
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so, how important is first target%? xd

neat hearth
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eh

ionic needle
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Not very, that's an incredible deimos

neat hearth
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80/80/80/80

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God I'd kill for that level of consistency

lofty temple
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trash it

humble swan
ionic needle
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Anyone else experienced Melk being nicer after the patch? Seems like I got 365+ on all my items yesterday

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Not Melk, Brunt

lethal plover
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is it really worth trying to optimize a few percentages in those stats. I usually take anything with >70 on the stats

teal needle
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Brunt stole like 200k from me today so no

lofty temple
steel flame
ionic needle
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Curse him

lofty temple
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You do need first target

crude cape
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wanna try some non force sword builds.
what about 1h chainsword. Bloodletter + what? is devastating strike or wrath worth? how would you guys build it

lofty temple
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savage sweep

humble swan
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letsgo, based group

neat hearth
lofty temple
steel flame
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them uncapping the quell canceling speed is a blessing

fallow meadow
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Just came back to the game and did some testing. So the Assail's homing is more like a laser guide missile, interesting.

lethal plover
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more like you throw and pray

manic flint
lethal plover
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at longer range whether it hits the sniper is up to god

thorn kestrel
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Drugs

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and a lot of corpse starch

idle bay
lethal plover
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or use macros

steel flame
manic flint
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oh.

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my.

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god.

idle bay
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It;s like limiter is off LBM clicks on every staff

steel flame
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it cancels the end of the cast animation and lets you immidiatly go into another

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works on every m1 and m2

idle bay
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And there is no need to quell canceling anymore it works without it now

steel flame
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triples how fast you can fire off trauma staff shots

fallow meadow
lethal plover
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yes I was referring to RMB for assail

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throw it at sniper whether it hits is random

hybrid solstice
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what are good blessings for voidstrike now

steel flame
steel flame
hybrid solstice
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ah okay

steel flame
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will oneshot crushers in a crit

hybrid solstice
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unfortunately i do not have surge

lavish comet
steel flame
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its the rarest blessing on void staff

primal radish
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assail is fun because its busted, im gonna start playing games without a ranged wep lmao

azure veldt
lethal plover
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you will need an anti-crusher or anti-horde tool to go with assail

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maybe anti-sniper too

teal needle
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VS is both ;D

lethal plover
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yeah void makes a lot of sense

ocean cipher
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is this a premium hat

azure veldt
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Yes

hollow current
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yeah

ocean cipher
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damn

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that is actually the best drip i've ever seen

steel flame
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oop

idle bay
hollow current
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1400 aquilas i think

lethal plover
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looking fabulous? found the slaanesh follower

idle bay
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Best looking headwear is hood with googles for old redacted penances before they were made easier

steel flame
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yeah so uh, voids probably gonna get tuned down just a teeny bit

primal radish
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does True Aim work with assail? can assail crit

lavish comet
lethal plover
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I don't see the need to, because the game just throws 10 more crushers at you now in auric maelstrom

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and charging void takes work

steel flame
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.....

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im not sure how to respond to that

hollow current
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the mostly melee auric maelstrom modifier is crazy with crushers, rager, maulers and bulwarks

lethal plover
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yeah an hour or two ago right

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crusher trains

wild bramble
hollow current
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That soul blaze talent/node is crazy good though

neat hearth
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Bro just wear the default grey clothing to Auric missions
Looks hilarious just seeing three pimped out people and then Dave the Intern

steel flame
hollow current
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A couple times ran into groups of 20 of the armored elites and after killing a few the rest died within seconds

crude cape
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\

fallow meadow
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What is smite good for, just a lighter surge staff?

lethal plover
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by armored elites are you counting crushers

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smite is infinite duration CC

steel flame
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all these squares make a circle all these squares make a circle all these squares make a circle

hollow current
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yeah

wild bramble
snow scaffold
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Void is kinda fun actually

steel flame
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single target

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kidna

hollow current
lethal plover
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not single but definitely few

lofty temple
snow scaffold
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I like this new surge staff update

hollow current
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200+ melee elites

steel flame
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the m1 on the new surge is stupid

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i love it

snow scaffold
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I might stick with it

fallow meadow
hollow current
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was using trauma for the cc.

snow scaffold
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hows trauma now?

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haven't tried it yet

wild bramble
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old sutge is now smite

lethal plover
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trauma can punch behind bulwark

snow scaffold
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smite is super colorful

plucky flax
lofty temple
manic flint
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lol, i see a pattern.

lethal plover
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well there are many options for bulwark as psyker now

hollow current
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Yeah biggest buff to Trauma is it can knock down bulwarks more easily. Damage got a big buff. 2 shot ragers. 3 shot crushers and maulers. at least with my build

snow scaffold
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with this update I've seen more psykers than any other classes

ornate hamlet
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ngl I

steel flame
# snow scaffold hows trauma now?

even better than before, quelling no longer gets rid of flurry stacks, fire trauma is stupid good with the fire changes, and the straight buff to quell canceling and all the crit chance buffs, Rending got buffed

ornate hamlet
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I think assail is randomly good

lethal plover
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psyker dome shield is just great

neat hearth
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I went into a match with THREE DOME SHIELD PSYKERS and the entire FUCKING time it was like I was a part of some godforsaken Venn Diagram

ornate hamlet
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it obviously clears crowds of light enemies well, but sometimes it just shits the bed and does whatever it wants

neat hearth
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It was amazing

plucky flax
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Yeah psyker dome is so op in hishock and above.

neat hearth
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but oh god my eyes

snow scaffold
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what blessings do you recommend for trauma staff?

fallow meadow
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Trauma feels the same. Single game on hi5 only though.

plucky flax
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Trauma does a lot more damage.

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Crazy buff.

steel flame
hollow current
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two builds for trauma is rending shockwave + warp flurry and blazing spirit + warp nexus

ornate hamlet
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I should probably try the stun wall because I honestly have the same problem with gaze as I had with volley fire

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I keep saving it for "that one moment" and it never comes

steel egret
lofty temple
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"I'll protect you!"

ornate hamlet
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and stun wall + smite is basically "I wanna see you move, fuckhead"

steel flame
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fire/nexus for a crits build (better purgatus), rending/flurry for fuck everything build

azure veldt
valid marsh
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I think trauma needed epicentre radius, not damage

steel egret
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True

fallow meadow
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Trauma was already good in my memory. Did FS just buff all the staffs?

steel flame
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trauma really didnt need anything

cosmic sigil
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Does shredder psyker still work?

lethal plover
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yeah all the staves are fun now

snow scaffold
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Well I haven't tried Orgyn yet but I've maybe seen one Orygn in 6 games

steel flame
dense prism
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speaking of trauma staff is rending shockwave good with the staff

steel egret
azure veldt
steel flame
dense prism
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nice

lethal plover
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I have rending on my trauma though I honestly don't know how to compare

dense prism
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I still have my trauma force staff with level 3 rending

cosmic sigil
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Well, it was well deserved tbh. It was fun while it lasted

hollow current
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For Trauma at least.

steel flame
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thing with rending is that it doesnt buff the traumas damage since it already bypasses armor, but it really buffs everyone elses damage

cosmic sigil
steel egret
magic hull
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ok first impression, the shards are ridiculous

steel flame
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FLURRY WAS NOT NERFED

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FLURRY GOT BUFFED

steel egret
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Yes

steel flame
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you can quell without losing stacks now

lofty temple
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WHAT

lethal plover
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yeah shards make solo clutch quite viable. psykers no longer fear rows of gunners and specials

steel egret
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Dont take feat for soulfire, no warp charges taken

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If I understood correctly

dense prism
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is scier any good?

ornate hamlet
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They never did if you had a gun chadogryn

fallow meadow
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Do surge still run in crit build?

steel egret
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Or does it still take them

steel flame
ornate hamlet
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Scrier is volley fire for psykers

hollow current
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Eh I'd consider that a side-grade but I get the point. 50% to 25.5 is noticeable decrease even if you keep your stacks.

steel egret
steel flame
hollow current
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But given the other changes, it's hardly inappropiate given how powerful it is.

ionic needle
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Scrier with Assail seems like it could be good if I just played better and didn't explode myself

lethal plover
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I believe scrier is more meant for gun psykers to spam

ionic needle
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Can't quell with your gun out though

steel egret
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Yeah the build up gets pretty crazy

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Cant even quell it KEKW_ogryn

ionic needle
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You can quell scrier

steel flame
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ALL THE CRITS ALL THE TIME, EVERYTHING DIES, TIME TO GO HOME

steel egret
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I played matches in which my staff quell wasnt enough

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If it was left to be

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I did have extended time on it thought

ionic needle
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It's not enough after a while, but getting 25+ stacks with just your hand quell isn't too hard

steel egret
steel flame
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the peril gen gets faster and faster and only slows down with kills

ionic needle
steel egret
steel flame
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its meant to be like that

manic flint
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i just got my zealot, their tree looks much nicer in layow.

steel egret
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But the peril build up ramps up

manic flint
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layout.

dense prism
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for surge build which of the blitz should I take?

steel egret
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Longer it runs

steel flame
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because scrier only ends with peril hits 100%

steel egret
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I can quell it just fine for its normal period

steel flame
fallow meadow
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Even staff quell can't handle it when it stack close to 30

ionic needle
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Yeah I'm talking about getting stacks in the 20-25 range though, maxing it seems unnecessary for the amount of queeling that's needed

steel egret
lofty temple
dense prism
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k

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going for crit build

steel egret
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Or was that the amount of stacks

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I dont play destiny

steel flame
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the perk you numpty

lethal plover
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the only real niche for brain burst now is anti-sniper

steel egret
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Yes

ionic needle
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BB is good vs carapace though

lethal plover
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at long range assail is throw and pray

ionic needle
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Doesn't the aim work pretty well?

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Pretty sure I hit a sniper from pretty far yesterday

fallow meadow
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Yeah, scier is much better with guns. Take too much time to handle the peril for staff.

steel flame
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wrong build

lethal plover
hollow current
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also I think rending shockwave does increase damage against armor by some way. When attacking a crusher I do 944 on the first charge then 1180 on the second or roughly 25% more damage on the second attack.

steel flame
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i use scrier for when i want to nuke everything in front of me

lethal plover
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speaking of which, do people one-shot snipers with RMB assail? My build doesn't currently

astral oracle
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god

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i love warp siphon being fucking broken

thorn kestrel
hollow current
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mine does when I headshot them. I got warpstacks tho.

lethal plover
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ok warpstacks is the trick

astral oracle
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i love that warp siphon may have been an oversight and they may have made each warp siphon ability cooldown be 75% instead of 7.5%

lethal plover
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but then you'd give up on empowered huh

ionic needle
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Assail is pretty consistent with hitting weakspots right?

lethal plover
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yes it tends to go for the heads

thorn kestrel
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Really good against anything un-carapaced tbh

left hare
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for void strike do u full charge or instant click

astral oracle
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50 domes on the map is beautiful

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so many domes...

hollow current
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carapace is the only thing that assail isn't good against yeah

lethal plover
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insta click can be spammed but damage isn't much. half charge is where I tend to stay (it one shots zombies). full charge for crushers etc

primal radish
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i wanna see a 4 psyker team with all assail just running thru the map demolishing everything

fallow meadow
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Normal headshot assail only do 475 on sniper, not enough to one shot. Need some extra for it.

quartz eagle
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is the perk for using your right hold block to count peril instead of stamina still a thing?

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if that sentence made any sense

astral oracle
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yes

quartz eagle
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what's it called?

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i can't find it

lethal plover
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kinetic deflection

ionic needle
lethal plover
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right side tree, near bottom

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I always pick that of course

quartz eagle
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ty spotted it

primal radish
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nothing is a problem for assail except carapace which is so easy to kill

ionic needle
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How do you deal with carapace?

hollow current
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I seem to one hit snipers even with 0 warp stacks but I also got the 10% elite and special damage aura.

primal radish
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melee or surge

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or void or any ranged

left hare
#

deimos or let someone else deal with it

#

or surge void

#

void goes hard

lethal plover
#

basically void when you face a horde of crushers

hollow current
#

honestly any of the staffs but purg can deal with carapace albeit in different ways

ionic needle
#

Gonna try out surge this evening I think. Illisi should be good enough for horde clear

lofty temple
#

I might be stupid

idle bay
lofty temple
#

For my Palpatine build I took a dueling sword

flint pawn
#

First time hitting 600k damage in a match

lofty temple
#

I have very unreliable horde clear

ionic needle
flint pawn
#

I love new Chainsword

ionic needle
#

Have to try it out

flint pawn
#

Only weapon I'm ever using on Psyker from now on

lofty temple
flint pawn
#

Chainsword with Bloodletter and +25% Unyielding paired with Assail has just about everything covered

lofty temple
#

I was the OG Bloodletter Chainsword advocate

flint pawn
#

I tried it before but I preferred combat knife in its role

#

But now it's amazing

#

Idk what staff to pair with Chainsword + Dome + Assail so I just tacked on Surge since Bulwarks and Crusher have been particularly annoying

harsh urchin
#

wow

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i'm really really really

#

not impressed

#

by disrupt destiny LOL

slow raven
#

major weakness of the assail build is monstrosities

#

they have like double the hp as before so the lack of boss dps is really really noticeable

astral oracle
#

don't need deflection when you can spawn 20 domes and get like 500 toughness per second.

#

kek

slow raven
#

so far all my wipes have been because everyone is playing psyker and trying assail so we cant kill bosses for shit

lethal plover
#

dome goes down quickly if too many enemies shoot at it right?

astral oracle
#

probably yeah

ionic needle
lethal plover
#

yeah as assail player I might need someone to carry a boltgun for bosses

ionic needle
#

Also, what blessings and perks are good for surge?

lethal plover
#

how good is purgatus at killing bosses ?

flint pawn
#

Wrath works fine for me, idk about Infested, don't care too much about it, all I really need was Unyielding

hollow current
#

the talent page needs a search bar so we can look up specific nodes

dense ivy
#

Alright thoughts

Soulblaze is still completely fucking useless unless you're using blue flamethrower

midnight kiln
#

Does surge on Trauma Staff now does the double attack with secondary attack too?

dense ivy
#

Kinetic Flayer is still completely fucking useless in general because 15 second cooldown

steel flame
dense ivy
#

5% toughness DR is just statistically worse than 15 toughness by every metric I can figure

flint pawn
#

Chaos Spawn is the only problem if it gets upset with you in particular

steel flame
slow raven
#

ill have to try it

hollow current
steel flame
#

you said flamethrower

lethal plover
#

trauma is not purgatus

steel flame
#

which is purgatus

spice veldt
#

depends on what soulblaze source you're referring to

flint pawn
spice veldt
#

perilous combustion is very good

flint pawn
#

The boss damage*

dense ivy
#

Oh you said purgatus at first

flint pawn
#

Chainsword revved lights with Bloodletter absolutely shreds bosses

steel flame
#

funny thing is blazing spirit void got worse, specifically because void go so much better, since its killing most in one shot the fire doesnt get to spread as much

spark fractal
flint pawn
#

Don't even have to hit Beast of Nurgle's weak point I just drop my shield and rev it to death while it can't touch me

dense ivy
#

Void is fucking cracked rn

#

Soulsteeler + Warp Expenditure just to get Battle Meditation

#

Never explode

#

Always full toughness

#

Everything dies

spark fractal
flint pawn
hollow current
#

it's bugged right now to where 1 warp charge refunds your shield

flint pawn
#

I walk in front of the Beast of Nurgle and drop the shield and spam light revs

dense ivy
#

I'm also using Telekine Shield just to get True Aim Kinetic Deflection Warp Rider and then go into Warp Siphon

flint pawn
#

You can walk back just far enough while locked onto him so that he can't eat you

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And his vomit is blocked by the shield

dense ivy
#

Really kinda sucks though shield is fairly useful

flint pawn
#

So it can't touch you

dense ivy
#

It doesn't block snipers though

#

Which is cringe

spiral lion
steel flame
#

i love how they positioned the ranged crits grant immunity to ranged attacks, JUST outside of where crit fire builds can get it, GAH

hollow current
#

I noticed something funky right away too and then saw it put together somewhere around here.

lethal plover
#

does psyker dome shield block snipers?

steel flame
#

yup

#

sure do

#

so do the wall

dense ivy
#

The flat shield sure doesn't

#

Or mine bugged or something

steel flame
#

really?

#

seems like it do

lethal plover
#

maybe he shot from above

hollow current
#

I wonder if it's a thing where the sniper locks onto outside of the shield and you walk in, it'll still hurt you.

steel flame
#

probably

#

wouldnt be suprised with fatshark spagetti code

hollow current
#

I've been domed behind cover like that before.

dense ivy
#

My tree looks dumb

#

But everything dies in 1 or 2 hits with voidstrike

#

And I have double shot on crit voidstrike blessing, so the guarnateed crit after 5 weakspot hits with True Aim is hilarious

#

I really wish I could just take venting shriek and still be able to do this though

ionic needle
#

I played like four games yesterday until I noticed this little bugger right here

dense ivy
#

I've killed myself three times tonight because I keep forgetting

ionic needle
#

Amazing talent and I just didn't pick it because blind

dense ivy
#

Soulstealer is kinda ridiculous

ionic needle
#

Yeah

dense ivy
#

You don't have much toughness but whenever you kill a thing you're now back to full

hollow current
#

And it works with assail KEKW_ogryn

#

At least it feels like it. Easy panic toughness

dense ivy
#

If you really wanted to

#

You can take every single toughness generation passive

ionic needle
#

Dome + Assail + Soulstealer and you're just unkillable

primal radish
#

can I get 3 psykers with Assail to try a meme run

dense ivy
#

I don't think you need to because if you kill 6 poxwalkers you're already at full toughness

ornate hamlet
#

Assail deez nuts

ionic needle
#

Yeah, really makes me rethink my curio choices

#

I have toughness regen on all of them but hardly needed

dense ivy
#

I just went max health and block cost reduction

#

Because you can get kinetic deflection too

ionic needle
#

Ability recharge?

dense ivy
#

If you're doing a CDR build I'd swap it for health yeah

ionic needle
#

But that's only 4% off of a 30-40s CD, so might not be worth it

dense ivy
#

If you stack all three with 12% and take the cdr abilities it's about a 30% cdr total

primal radish
#

Can 3 psykers join my group and try an all assail build pls, DM to join group don't need voice chat

ionic needle
#

That's pretty good

dense ivy
#

The main thing is just psykenetic aura

#

5% cdr per elite kill

ionic needle
#

Can't get that with assail though :<

#

I really like assail

dense ivy
#

It's locked out of assail but is generally cracked, if you're NOT running assail you don't need cdr

hollow current
#

Why not abuse the warp charge bug while it's here.

dense ivy
#

What bug is that

hollow current
#

if you take warp siphon and shield, so long as you have 1 warp charge when you cast the shield, you still have your shield.

#

if you farm another warp charge, you can put another shield on. and so on

ionic needle
#

Ooooh that's what happened yesterday

dense ivy
#

Oh yeah

ionic needle
#

I could do endless domes and had no idea why

dense ivy
#

They brought the cdr bug back

#

In a new and amazing way

#

Disrupt Destiny is such balls though

#

Oh wow thanks 4% damage

hollow current
#

I played one game with it then stopped. Gonna let someone else figure it out.

dense ivy
#

Meanwhile I'm sitting over here with 70% effective peril reduction popping brain blasts every 1.25 seconds

ionic needle
#

Not really a fan of how quicken is baseline for warp charges now

#

I want to KEEP them damn it

dense ivy
#

I don't like it but you can get the charges back basically instantly

#

So it's w/e

#

In Fire Reborn is dogshit without a purgatus

#

And with a purgatus you don't actually need it anyways

#

You should just take psychic vampire because you'll get more charges with it faster with every staff because your allies are getting stacks for you instead of you relying on a DoT to finish off enemies

#

I guess you could take it with a trauma but? That thing mostly just gibs what it hits so again, just take the chance to get a charge on kill

left hare
#

i love this wall

#

how did i live without this wall

#

๐Ÿซ‚

hollow current
#

For a specific build I suppose.

tropic scarab
#

Psykers today.

cyan echo
#

Haven't tried Assail yet, is it nice?

bleak tulip
#

very

tropic scarab
ionic needle
gaunt wagon
#

debatably better than purg on horde clear

left hare
#

when i used assail i legit forgot i had a stave

tropic scarab
ionic needle
#

Oooh Yondu is his name! I couldn't remember it for the life of me

cyan echo
#

i've been going with Smite + Void Staff and thought that was working pretty well

left hare
#

I also forgot about using illisi

#

lol

#

I should probably pick up dueling swords

astral oracle
#

I'ma try Assail now until I get a trauma with soulblaze

left hare
#

assail is my new main weapon

astral oracle
#

Then I can just meme with warp stack dome after

vivid saffron
#

Void likely to get nerfed? I donโ€™t wanna get used to it, only for FS to make that build poopoo

bleak tulip
#

the only reason you cant really get away with only using assail is its piss poor performance against carapace

cyan echo
#

is Trauma staff good now? Haven't used it in like a year

left hare
#

does full charge void strike knock down crusher?

vivid saffron
bleak tulip
cyan echo
#

I remember Trauma generating so much peril

left hare
#

also what relics do people run on their psykers now

vivid saffron
bleak tulip
vivid saffron
#

Does that answer your question?

left hare
#

toughness + stam?

bleak tulip
#

probably still second best staff

vivid saffron
left hare
#

Cos my perks are garbage

bleak tulip
#

was considered best before the patch if you can believe it

left hare
#

and i wanna try it

vivid saffron
left hare
#

i havent grinded and sacrificed staves yet

vivid saffron
#

Guess what class I am?

#

I am a Better-than ๐Ÿ™‚

ionic needle
#

Trauma with brittleness is good, no?

vivid saffron
cyan echo
#

did they change Trauma somehow since launch?

bleak tulip
#

yeah

#

lower peril cost

shadow quail
#

Everything changed since launch

cyan echo
#

Aah interesting, might be worth to try now then

ionic needle
#

Kind of wish I farmed before the patch, so many things I want to try out

vivid saffron
#

Vet with Lucius Mk 3 can do about as well as Voidstrike. I donโ€™t mind. I donโ€™t mind Psyker being OP

bold cliff
#

so what'st he best/favorite ability? brain pop, knives, lightning?

cyan echo
#

people were always complaining about Psyker being weak

vivid saffron
#

Psyker SHOULD be strongest class. Period. Speaking as a Vet main

vivid saffron
#

With Empowered Paionics

cyan echo
#

I like Smite a lot so far, though its probably not the best

bleak tulip
shadow quail
#

smite is only good because of the bug, imo

vivid saffron
bold cliff
#

nice! ok that was my next question.

knives with empowerd psionic better than the stacks that increase damage?

vivid saffron
#

Vet mid tree is goated. Especially bottom third

bleak tulip
#

both are good tbh

#

cant really go wrong tbh

vivid saffron
dense ivy
#

I've done runs on Auric where I end with 10 melee kills

cyan echo
#

isnt void the same as it always was?

bleak tulip
#

stack capstone is likely better in some way but its probably too early to tell

shadow quail
bleak tulip
dense ivy
#

No it does SIGNIFICANTLY more damage

cyan echo
#

oh, didnt feel much different when i tried it yesterday

vivid saffron
cyan echo
#

i always thought it nuked things hard

dense ivy
#

It's not just the base damage, but its armor modifiers

#

2 shots crushers with + damage

shadow quail
#

It never 2 shot crushers before

bleak tulip
#

it actually does insane single target damage, has unlimited (?) cleave for real this time

cyan echo
#

Well that's good innit

dense ivy
#

If it kills it doesn't stop

cyan echo
#

better than a wet fart

dense ivy
#

Even on armor

bleak tulip
#

well I think so c:

vivid saffron
teal needle
dense ivy
#

You could already topscore on damage with void before

astral oracle
#

i'ma try out assail now

dense ivy
#

But its ability to deal with mutants crushers and maulers was kinda shit

cyan echo
#

This new ranged-shield is nice as well, worried things might be too easy now

vivid saffron
bleak tulip
dense ivy
#

Now it just murders those things as well as the horde

dense ivy
bleak tulip
#

shield is cool because you can finally offer some big team utility

dense ivy
#

It's GOING to get nerfed

vivid saffron
#

It doesnโ€™t need +Carapace to 2-shot

dense ivy
#

It's so insanely strong

shadow quail
#

Lol the shield bug is funny had like 12 shields earlier

vivid saffron
#

Agreed

dense ivy
#

Shield is nice but the targeting is wonk on stairs

lofty temple
#

I still need to try the shield

vivid saffron
lofty temple
#

What's it like?

bleak tulip
#

idk if shield drops are annoying for the shooty people since its not perfectly color neutral and transparent but yknow

#

nobody complained yet

#

and getting 10%toughness per second is very nice

dense ivy
#

The stun is very situational and the double shield perk just feels useless

#

You're using it too often to build up stacks

vivid saffron
bleak tulip
#

yeah the small shield feels a little anemic I only tried the bubble

cyan echo
#

feels like the shield is especially useful on higher difficulties where enemy Ranged are the biggest danger

bleak tulip
dense ivy
#

The bubble shield is much stronger for its better coverage yeah

vivid saffron
#

I get confused whenever that thing comes on screen. One moment I am shooting like a maniac, and then, wuh??? Blue screen? It legit confused me

dense ivy
#

The stun on the shield is very whatever

#

basically not noticable

bleak tulip
#

when its bright its probably not too bad but in darkness it might fuck with your visual

shadow quail
#

i dropped one on nurgle and it blocked all his vomit from the inside

dense ivy
#

Would def rather have bubble

bleak tulip
#

yeah

#

it does that

dense ivy
#

The second bubble perk of toughness regen and then 50 fucking % DR after it expires is cracked

bleak tulip
vivid saffron
bleak tulip
#

nah its not

vivid saffron
#

Ffs. Autocorrectโ€ฆ

bleak tulip
shadow quail
#

doesnt look like halo

#

more like an anime

vivid saffron
#

A sParTan fishy????

#

Like wtf

dense ivy
#

The expiration requirement is kinda bad though

vivid saffron
#

You stupid effing algorithm

dense ivy
#

Because nobody stays in one spot for 20 seconds unless you're just completely pinned

bleak tulip
#

I wanna say the shield has a health bar too

dense ivy
#

Or it's a defense mission

#

I think it only has a healthbar vs speicals if you take that talent tree

bleak tulip
#

on damnation it does go away when you drop it in front of a solid amount of gunners and reapers

dense ivy
#

The stun one on the left

#

I've yet to see it disappear otherwise

bleak tulip
#

hmm

dense ivy
#

But I've not come across any like

bleak tulip
#

it does hold for a while but I feel like its gone away before the cd

dense ivy
#

Big huge hordes of shooters that lasted

azure veldt
#

Assail - anyone else just find it silly easy to spam psyker whistle arrows at the enemy in a fore and forget kinda way?

shadow quail
#

yeah

#

its a main weapon

azure veldt
#

Fire* and forget

dense ivy
#

Yes but also it's funne

vivid saffron
#

Vet legit has a goated mid-tree. I got so much rending on my Devilโ€™s Claw, it was amazing

bleak tulip
#

fun fact, if you hover over enemies it follows your crosshair for the 3 jumps ish

#

its not entirely fire and forget

bleak tulip
#

you can also send em out and switch back to staff and keep steering em

azure veldt
#

Lol all my games last night felt like all classes were now OP.

How hard we gonna get nerfed or how much will enemies be buffed?

honest frigate
#

I found out about this thanks to one of the early access vids

honest frigate
hybrid solstice
#

what should i change on this

bleak tulip
honest frigate
#

Heresy can still be difficult if you got ass teammate and/or the AI director decides to drown you in elites and specialists

azure veldt
azure veldt
hybrid solstice
#

yeah i think i'll i''ll change it to gunners

honest frigate
#

The classes rework really helped a ton. And there was a lot of stat tweaks all over too

#

Which probably had some effect

bleak tulip
#

just dodge em

honest frigate
#

If you still want to make your life hell, theres damnation and auric maelstrom missions

bleak tulip
#

get + toughness or something

honest frigate
ornate hamlet
#

gunners are usually what kills you so eh

hybrid solstice
#

personally i like toughness regen

lofty temple
#

people still play heresy??

bleak tulip
#

since toughness gets so many buffs from the tree now

honest frigate
bleak tulip
#

im sure people also still play the first two difficulties

#

not everyone is as sweaty as people who spend time talking in here

honest frigate
#

True

gilded radish
#

my game crashes whenever i try to play the throwing shards

honest frigate
#

Im not even sweaty tbh, but i DID notice that heresy is significantly more stress-free now

#

i may try it with high intensity sometime

bleak tulip
#

yeah every class seems to be much stronger now

cyan echo
#

Take pride in being sweaty

hybrid solstice
#

yeah i'll just stick with the classic gunner + sniper res

honest frigate
#

I have a mere 150 hours in the game

bleak tulip
#

basically everyone has had their moment of "whoa"

#

ogryn players stanning ogrynheimer, vets giggling to themselves over krag grenades

azure veldt
bleak tulip
#

havent heard from my zealot buddy but im sure theyre excited about the area denial grenade

azure veldt
#

I ain't got time or energy to try hard.

If I get to Auric it will be because I've accrued enough skill and experience that it fits that criteria

bleak tulip
#

and the buff zealot seems very nice

honest frigate
#

What remains dangerous about those high difficulty missions is the fact that everything can go super smoothly up until the end... Then the game spawns 5 elites and 10 specialist in a enclosed space and youre f u c k e d

ionic needle
#

I had a game like that yesterday

honest frigate
#

Happened to me yesterday, we were literally on the hall that lead to a exfil elevator and we all got downed right there

ionic needle
#

Damnation, I fucked up right at the end and blew up thanks to running assail + scrier

cyan echo
ionic needle
#

My teammates went for saving me instead of just completing the mission

#

We all died

bleak tulip
#

man I blew up so many more times, that muscle memory of using my last cast really has been fucking me

honest frigate
#

Reason why venting shriek is still a viable ability:

bleak tulip
#

playing basically since release with the one extra cast

ionic needle
#

Yeah, I mained illisi + shredder before the patch and haven't blown up for AGES

#

Wait, they removed the extra cast at <=97%?

bleak tulip
#

I mean its still viable because it gets 6 soublaze stacks every time no upkeep

honest frigate
#

Venting shriek with soulblaze stacks goes hard

#

Yes

bleak tulip
honest frigate
ionic needle
#

Aaah right

bleak tulip
#

I got so used to basically overcasting and shouting I fucked myself a few times yesterday

ionic needle
#

Scrier is pretty neat because you get that extra cast when it's active

#

You just have to make sure to not press it further

azure veldt
ionic needle
#

Both the quell speed and quell while running talents are gold, which is weird because before I'd never even consider any of them haha

left hare
#

I kept pressing f to try and dump my peril

#

then a dome appears

#

massive L

azure veldt
honest frigate
#

I seem to stick with the venting shriek ability anyway. I dont find the shields all that useful, and scrier ability is just for gun psykers mainly, not to mention its pretty boring

primal radish
#

i just played a hi shock game without using my melee or ranged wep

honest frigate
#

Assail?

primal radish
#

0 melee kills. ok i did accidentally use my melee for 1 swing

ionic needle
#

Ranged fire is what gets me down like 9/10 times

primal radish
#

and i got top total score on scoreboard lmfao

#

the other psyker had 0 melee kills too wtf i just noticed, he was using surge too tho

ionic needle
#

That other psyker SLAUGHTERED elites though, haha

#

31 melee, 55 ranged

primal radish
#

yea he had surge staff

#

i literally never used my melee or ranged wep

#

except an accidental melee swing

#

i just used assail only lmao

ionic needle
#

Assail is amazing

#

Kind of wish it had a tad more charges though, I don't like running out of evil mind crystals mid horde

primal radish
#

shits broken lmao thanks fatshark

summer prairie
#

Also both shots now crit with the surge blessing

echo cosmos
#

Old vet mains: "Vet is ruined!!!"

Me, who actually really likes new vet: "Vet is actually interesting!!!"

primal radish
#

wrong board?

echo cosmos
#

No I just didn't want vet mains to see that I am disagreeing with them

ornate hamlet
#

I see it

#

I see all.

outer owl
#

do run and gun work?

#

I dont know why but it just doesn't allow me to sprint while using secondary attack

true ledge
#

Hey. I must ask? I jsut start playing for the first time. And are there like any staffs in thr game? Like a traditional magic? I am a big mage fan? I know nothing about the game? Any help would be kind.

outer owl
vast sonnet
outer owl
#

this

ionic needle
outer owl
#

do run and gun work?

true ledge
true ledge
fast swan
glad sandal
vast sonnet
fast swan
#

which stat is le dump stat?

glad sandal
# fast swan good?

yes but hope for good blessings and modifiers otherwise it's gonna be less strong than anticipated

fast swan
#

what blessings do i need?

#

got riposte III which looks like a boatload of mid

glad sandal
#

precognition ?

#

I don't play regular swords, I find the force sword way better at everyting

#

I mean the deimos is probably one of the best weak point weapon in the game

#

rending might be good on the duelling sword I believe

fast swan
#

ty

#

also is scriers gace goated with gunpsyker or jsut a bit mid?

glad sandal
#

rending + shred I believe are better blessings

echo cosmos
glad sandal
#

I still think they're outshined by the force swords

echo cosmos
#

Force swords have more power, but the dueling sword 4 has an insane attack speed

ornate hamlet
#

I prefered the Ilius ws that the name? prepatch, haven't played psyker yet.

#

Didn't like deimos animations

honest frigate
#

Illisi

echo cosmos
#

Illisi has the slash when charged

Deimos does the succ when charged

ornate hamlet
#

Also I think the Deimos looks stupid

honest frigate
#

And then theres the third force sword which is kinda like deimos but worse

ornate hamlet
#

barbed stabbing sword

honest frigate
ornate hamlet
#

fkn genius made that one

honest frigate
ornate hamlet
#

Imagine some poor psyker stabbing a mutant and then just gets dragged along

echo cosmos
#

Barbs means it tears more

#

And being dragged along isn't an issue if you properly maintain the Omnissiahs gifts

ionic needle
#

It's a mind laser sword, just pull it out using your mind

idle bay
#

Since Void staff is a thing now - look what i dug out in my Inventory

honest frigate
#

Wdym "is a thing" it was there before

#

๐Ÿ’€

idle bay
#

It's more thing then it was ๐Ÿ™‚

ancient latch
ionic needle
#

Before thing now more thing

cyan echo
#

Thingier

ionic needle
#

It made us Ogryn

forest meadow
#

Give it a week and it's one foot back in the grave for the Psyker

spice veldt
eager gorge
#

Dueling swords (with rending) are dope rn

ionic needle
#

Psyker was always really good though, you just had to play a very specific build (Shredder)

eager gorge
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I'm just trying to find out what to run on my shredder pistol

glad sandal
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I'm gonna slash you duelling swords lovers in half with the power of my mind

spice veldt
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mk4 duelly heavies

glad sandal
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never said the duelling sword sucks ass, I just say I still think FS are better even with the obvious buff

spice veldt
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deimos h2

spice veldt
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I'm saying that the mk4 is better than the deimos

bleak tulip
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yeah but force sword looks cooler Clueless

honest frigate
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blows up rations with mind

ionic needle
glad sandal
ionic needle
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Or maybe Elite aura is better

eager gorge
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I've not used the machine pistol tbqh.

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Picked up Psyker again after the buffs.

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Was a Vet player, lol

idle bay
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Despite dueling 4 being cool AF - i'm still sticking to Illsi

honest frigate
honest frigate
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Im considering usingnit as a backup on my assail psyker

bleak tulip
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I dont know how I feel about deimos charge being more like illisi charge now too

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I almost miss the shitty "get stuck" thing

glad sandal
spice veldt
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stockholm syndrome ๐Ÿ˜”

ionic needle
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Ah, I think Pinning Fire + Cavalcade/Blaze away with Carapace/Flak should work fine still

bleak tulip
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at least it did a fuckton of damage

idle bay
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Also i dont have good Dueling 4......

glad sandal
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I spent an entire game just slinging arrows left and right without ever pulling my staff

bleak tulip
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even if it felt like shit

idle bay
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karking Hadron....

honest frigate
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True but the machine pistol is great at dealing with most things and is such a dps beast so its a safe bet @glad sandal

glad sandal
eager gorge
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It is

azure veldt
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Gah. I've never modded a game before - seems like now is the time to learn

glad sandal
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checkmate atheist

eager gorge
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wait psykers can get a fucking cape

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well

bleak tulip
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I cant believe I will have to figure out how the fuck mods work again today

eager gorge
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I know what im doing

ionic needle
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Love the cape!

honest frigate
eager gorge
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I know my goal for tomorrow, lmao

ionic needle
glad sandal
honest frigate
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RAHHHHH