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Yup.
1)Machinegun-Void staff without animation cancel, just hold RMB and click LMB fast
2) Hold Vent Peril + spam Assail - forget about blowing yourself up.
Any more ? ๐
infinite dome?
I have Surge and Warp Nexus IV with a 379 Staff. +25% Carp and +25% Unyeilding
So its only usable with the bug, compared to the shards?
It's not good imo without it.
Infinite dome
Infinite palp hands
I wanna like smite but using it normally feels just bad. Cause there is the delay of swapping to it, then you gotta charge it and it's very short.
For the record I haven't tested if the infinite dome thing works with the walls version
Because that could be better tbh
Just call it unlimited Power Please!
Like it's alot of effort to get it off imo.
Infinate surge with EP, infinate shielkds with void, just void damage in general.
For those with mods, what is the normal ish amount of damage you get in a damnation game?
I feel like stuns should be a oh shit button not a whole ordeal
What's the difference between left click and right click on the surge hands ?
Read about the dome, but palp hands? How?
A nice lil push or full on chain.
please fix dome, as a dome main i find it kind of annoying to constantly get free domes.
You have to have 1 charge of the Enhanced Psyonics then use surge and hold it . No peril gain
im intentionally trying not to abuse it
500-600k. Void build
i like the enhanced psyonics
i just wished it made brain burst do a little more damage
Thanks, that seems to be where I am at. Noticed a big push up in damage today though.
Cool. Sad thing that both surge hands and surge staff a SUCK worse tha Abaddon in every Black Crausade...
I want to make like a full build with enhanced psychics and Asail. But I just end up killing myself
brain buest pairs well with it
For cc not dammage
i think thats kind of what its mainly made for
Before or after Cadia?
Surge staff was my favorite and they... they KILLED it ๐ฆ
im reading a lot of "void" is broken, why is that? You guys are talking about the chi ball staff right ?
It's a plasma gun now, bro...
use it that way
I bet but if I was gonna do a BB build I would use the left keystone and use the shout for infinite fast casts
Surge and warp nexus on it
2-Tab Crushers with no perks...
Tbh if they nerf Assail idk how you play Surge staff I feel like they work well together.
what are these
He sucked his bigged D. on Cadia, and his throat was so sore after that that he thrown tantrun and blew up the planet ๐
dude you can still pretty much do that
with the enhanced pysonics
Blessings.
its so easy constantly getting charges for it
Idk bb just feels slow ya know?
all you need is purg staff and a chads strut
yes but thats why you save the charges for stuff like bosses and ogryn based enemies
its meant to be a tank sniper
How is purgatus now? Anyone mess around with it today?
i use it
still good
I did it's more or less the same
still fucks hard
Shit. Wait till we get a soulflame skill tree
Siblings - what to do with our Boss damage after patch?
But it didn't get the lords buff like the Void?
Boss damage still weakish
Anyone tested the good old BURN THEM ALL strategy?
Is Purgatus any good?
have they confirmed more skill trees?
Hope there are other classes with you
Still the same.
Works, isn't broken, isn't bad.
hope they do something like that or flat out add a new class like a tech priest thing or a ratling
Gun psykeriing maybe.. ?
I don't acknowledge that.
As a purge main I just copuim for a soulflame skill tree. And a soulflame skill/blitz
I played 3 auric 5 games of psyker today. still slaps.
MKIII headhunter autogaun is love
Idk why we got a lightning blitz
nah mate
Same
be a fucking psychic flak canon
@urban dove could be cool if you could spend a talent to turn it into flames.
Just put in a perk where we get +50% power, but if you blow up you turn into a choas spawn.
use the revolver
all the soulblaze talents are still there and more accessable.
Used to be fav weapon on all human sized operatives. Though it only deal good boss damage on Vet...
Yes I know dear sister but they are more like sidethoughts not a main build
I was expecting like a sienna ult from pyromancer or the battle mage dash tbh
The left tree is mainly focused on soulflame?
There's 3 perks bros and sisters
Three whole perks for soulflame . But nothing that adds new stuff to soul blaze
Like I said a blitz or a skill for soul blaze would have been dope
if only Fatsharked amped Soulfire damage like they did with Bleed
fire is way harder to balance than bleed
I would have preferred any thing else besides Unlimited power. Cuz wr already had a staff for that no need to add a blitz for it
Psyker needs a soul blaze grenade launcher staff
I got the voice line where my psyker referred to beloved as a he and i shouted โim gay?!?!?!โ Very loudly
Balance is Heresy. Let us have unlimited unhiged FUN!
I love it
It's good
Smite is good
Good for you brother box
Surge is good
What other staff has 3 passives and 1 active dedicated to it? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
it took you this long to figure it out??
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Yeah my old boyfriend never told me
This patch i think i'll hit 1500 missions mark way sooner than i expected ๐
These trees have no synergy with anything tho
Perildump into a horde with smite, press F to cast soulblaze on the horde
Add wildfire into the mix...
Like I said soulblaze is currently am after thought. You just have it as a side part of a different main build
wait so warp charges are a keystone now and not every build even uses warp charges??
Yeah.
no more having to maintain stacks if u go other keystones
Yup
Name a staff with as many perks dedicated to it.
Do the old penances need to be fixed?
Welcome brother Kayl
Surge? . Void?
im free from warp charge stacks ho yeaaa
Other keystones - you have to keep an eye on another stacks ๐
I'm not
No.
I still take my trusty warp charges
There is a flame perk at every section of the talent tree on the left.
Also with this active of a chat can we talk about the skill tree racism ? ๐ค
It feels like I have to... just for the Peril resistance^^
I took Essence Harvest...
Why do we have diagonally connectors and the other classes have strait lines ?
Psykers are crazy and wacky and crooked and their tree reflects that
Each time i re-build my psyker i have to go grab last one missing +15 toughness node and it's sucks
So we can mix and match more than any other class
It's so hard for us to pivot
No that's the opposite of the trees
We can't mix like others can
There will be wave of nerfs ofc beacuse whinly little b... on forums ๐
Because of the strait lines on all other class trees they can go from far right to far left easy. We can't We have to go down diagonal
all fire all the time felt strong
while smiting can people block or do sth ?
no
No
what's the strategy to play smiting well
feels like it's easy to get interrupted by randos
Stay back and CC the hordes
Idk Smite honestly seems like a support blitz ability
Its not bad
Don't smith when you are alone.
Its jsut not very offensive
Whole point of simte to CC enemies for your team to kill them easier
Yeah
yeah it's not very offensive but I just saw a good smite player in auric maelstrom and it was the easiest run I had so far
And smite is able to stunlock even stuff like maniacs
makes my job so much easier
Its good
Why can't I pick assail and psykinetic aura!? God damn it fatshark
It takes AGES to kill basic trash with smite... so

It do be like that
Assail to Powerful by itsels ๐ They had to takes goodies from us to compensate'
now I feel like there has to be a dedicated smite player who can stop the train of crushers
Yeah Assail is really good
It's extra frustrating because it's just a single node away... in the wrong direction :<
Is the psyker most popular class now? I played with 3 psyker teams today
Just Charge Void them to stop that smash train...
Its definitely much more fun... not that it wasnt beforr already
I was the one on void duty while the other was smiting
Spamming warp shards everywhere is very epic
it's definitely much easier when you have both
Yeah assail is a lot of fun, just have to figure out what to pair it with to still delete carapace
infinite duration smiting almost seems like a bug
assail have been really good so far
It's probably a bug, the effect isn't listed in the tooltip
Is smiting more like supportive or dps?
entirely support
You dont always need to be a jack of all trades smh
Voidstrike is good tho
I don't need to, but that's how I like to play
Assail in team makes "kill 750 dregs/scabs in melee " weekly nearly impossible
you won't kill anything but your team will have it much easier, especially against crushers trains
Did they made surge staff range smaller?
WAY smaller and it barely chains now
Surge staff is the plasma gun now
Is it good vs carapace?
I liked old Surge staff more
It does like 800 or so damage
old surge was too good so they split damage aspect into the staff and CC into the smite
agaisnt armored surge do decent damage
its a shame at least some of the surgebrains are going to move on to using smite on horde now
So maybe pair assail with surge and illisi?
that's the point, new surge has better damage and new blitz has better CC
old surge has a mix of both
surge was really strong due to the fact that surge have a niche of providng good CC.
Is the normal shield skill or circle shield better?
My near godrolled surge can almost 1shot most specials now
If I roll a new one, with better perks...
What perks and blessings do you want on it?
Hardon bricked all and every good Surge staffs i was able to get .....
yeah we can kill stuff pretty well now
the game will just spawn many more elites / specials
I have the "double shot on crit" blessing too
I think I'd like Maniac and Carapace
or Unyielding
yes voidstrike headshot deals like 2700 or oneshot on crit sth on crushers
And if it's Void with surge blessing.... you have an Overkill shot
but in a real match getting a full charge can be rough
You can get a 50/50 crit chance on Surge
that's why when I used void with a good smiter nearby it was a cakewalk
There have been so many listerine psykers today holy shit
Purgatorus my beloved
What makes a smiter good?
New brainburst is very good with peril reduction tree
Listerine psykers?
smite for the whole encounter without being interrupted
I call the Purgatorus Staff the "Listerine Staff" since it looks like you're just burning enemies with listerine breath
ahahahahahaha
Yeah color is 1:1 like Listerine
Can confirm this; used it with listerine staff and got so much CDR alongside being able to spam screm
Though i switched to SPLAT
It feels like the old meta psyker build I used but far more fun and flexible
so, how important is first target%? xd
eh
Not very, that's an incredible deimos
trash it
done
Anyone else experienced Melk being nicer after the patch? Seems like I got 365+ on all my items yesterday
Not Melk, Brunt
is it really worth trying to optimize a few percentages in those stats. I usually take anything with >70 on the stats
Brunt stole like 200k from me today so no
Wasn't that great anyway
hehehehehe the new surge m1 go brrrrrrrrhttps://streamable.com/v3dtvl
Curse him
You do need first target
wanna try some non force sword builds.
what about 1h chainsword. Bloodletter + what? is devastating strike or wrath worth? how would you guys build it
savage sweep
letsgo, based group
Ah yes the "I throw my balls at them" Psyker build
it's consistent, it's good
the damage is just ludicrous
them uncapping the quell canceling speed is a blessing
Just came back to the game and did some testing. So the Assail's homing is more like a laser guide missile, interesting.
more like you throw and pray
how do you do it so quickly?
at longer range whether it hits the sniper is up to god
Just click faster
or use macros
its called quell canceling, you hit r after every cast
It;s like limiter is off LBM clicks on every staff
it cancels the end of the cast animation and lets you immidiatly go into another
works on every m1 and m2
And there is no need to quell canceling anymore it works without it now
triples how fast you can fire off trauma staff shots
Didn't holding RMB make it better at long range? It didn't pen through wall so it is no very good on that though.
yes I was referring to RMB for assail
throw it at sniper whether it hits is random
what are good blessings for voidstrike now
thats true for void staff but its still needed for the m1 on staves and for trauma and purgatus staff since they still have a cast animation to be canceled
nexus+surge
ah okay
will oneshot crushers in a crit
unfortunately i do not have surge
that feels right^^
its the rarest blessing on void staff
assail is fun because its busted, im gonna start playing games without a ranged wep lmao
I've only used and seen others use the dome.
you will need an anti-crusher or anti-horde tool to go with assail
maybe anti-sniper too
VS is both ;D
yeah void makes a lot of sense
is this a premium hat
Yes
yeah
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Not fabulous enough to wear for me. But it still bought it
1400 aquilas i think
looking fabulous? found the slaanesh follower
Best looking headwear is hood with googles for old redacted penances before they were made easier
yeah so uh, voids probably gonna get tuned down just a teeny bit
does True Aim work with assail? can assail crit
It feels like the whole class will get that treatment^^
I don't see the need to, because the game just throws 10 more crushers at you now in auric maelstrom
and charging void takes work
the mostly melee auric maelstrom modifier is crazy with crushers, rager, maulers and bulwarks
Is the dome circle one?
That soul blaze talent/node is crazy good though
Bro just wear the default grey clothing to Auric missions
Looks hilarious just seeing three pimped out people and then Dave the Intern
no the dome is clearly a square
A couple times ran into groups of 20 of the armored elites and after killing a few the rest died within seconds
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What is smite good for, just a lighter surge staff?
all these squares make a circle all these squares make a circle all these squares make a circle
yeah
Lol sry my english is not great
Void is kinda fun actually
well.....surge is now for damage
single target
kidna
not single but definitely few
Have you tried the new surge staff yet?
I like this new surge staff update
200+ melee elites
I might stick with it
Wait, what? What happen when I was gone.
was using trauma for the cc.
for one there is this https://streamable.com/v3dtvl
old sutge is now smite
trauma can punch behind bulwark
smite is super colorful
It's op.
Surge chains 2 enemies and deals huuuge damage to one
lol, i see a pattern.
well there are many options for bulwark as psyker now
Yeah biggest buff to Trauma is it can knock down bulwarks more easily. Damage got a big buff. 2 shot ragers. 3 shot crushers and maulers. at least with my build
with this update I've seen more psykers than any other classes
ngl I
even better than before, quelling no longer gets rid of flurry stacks, fire trauma is stupid good with the fire changes, and the straight buff to quell canceling and all the crit chance buffs, Rending got buffed
I think assail is randomly good
psyker dome shield is just great
I went into a match with THREE DOME SHIELD PSYKERS and the entire FUCKING time it was like I was a part of some godforsaken Venn Diagram
it obviously clears crowds of light enemies well, but sometimes it just shits the bed and does whatever it wants
It was amazing
Yeah psyker dome is so op in hishock and above.
but oh god my eyes
what blessings do you recommend for trauma staff?
Trauma feels the same. Single game on hi5 only though.
either take , rending shockwave and flurry, or nexus and blazing spirit
two builds for trauma is rending shockwave + warp flurry and blazing spirit + warp nexus
I should probably try the stun wall because I honestly have the same problem with gaze as I had with volley fire
I keep saving it for "that one moment" and it never comes
All the staffs also feel faster now
"I'll protect you!"
and stun wall + smite is basically "I wanna see you move, fuckhead"
fire/nexus for a crits build (better purgatus), rending/flurry for fuck everything build
Psyker class is the best. My opinion is not subjective in the slightest.
But seriously, we've got SO MANY tools - and cool effects, combos etc... and insane DPS at pretty much any range.
I think trauma needed epicentre radius, not damage
True
Trauma was already good in my memory. Did FS just buff all the staffs?
trauma really didnt need anything
Yes
Does shredder psyker still work?
yeah all the staves are fun now
Well I haven't tried Orgyn yet but I've maybe seen one Orygn in 6 games
yes, but pinning fire got nerfed into the ground
speaking of trauma staff is rending shockwave good with the staff
Yes with different blessings
Yes. With pretty much any combat ability so far for me.
yes, rending got buffed,
nice
I have rending on my trauma though I honestly don't know how to compare
I still have my trauma force staff with level 3 rending
Well, it was well deserved tbh. It was fun while it lasted
it definitely kills faster, tho the charge time feels the same if not slower when you consider the nerf to warp flurry.
For Trauma at least.
thing with rending is that it doesnt buff the traumas damage since it already bypasses armor, but it really buffs everyone elses damage
I assume the toughness regen and maybe blaze?
NERF?
NERF?
Tbh I think all charged staff attacks are faster or warp flurry works better
ok first impression, the shards are ridiculous
Yes
you can quell without losing stacks now
WHAT
yeah shards make solo clutch quite viable. psykers no longer fear rows of gunners and specials
is scier any good?
They never did if you had a gun 
Do surge still run in crit build?
Or does it still take them
yes
Scrier is volley fire for psykers
Eh I'd consider that a side-grade but I get the point. 50% to 25.5 is noticeable decrease even if you keep your stacks.
The only staff with critical modifiers?
there is still a feat for warpcharges gained with fire kills
But given the other changes, it's hardly inappropiate given how powerful it is.
Scrier with Assail seems like it could be good if I just played better and didn't explode myself
do YOU WANT CRITS???? HAVE SOME CRITS https://streamable.com/v3dtvl
I believe scrier is more meant for gun psykers to spam
Can't quell with your gun out though
You can quell scrier
ALL THE CRITS ALL THE TIME, EVERYTHING DIES, TIME TO GO HOME
I played matches in which my staff quell wasnt enough
If it was left to be
I did have extended time on it thought
It's not enough after a while, but getting 25+ stacks with just your hand quell isn't too hard
Staff is faster and still wasnt enough
i use scrier for surge staff so i can go crazy mod and muder everything in front of me in a 20 mile radius as seen above
the peril gen gets faster and faster and only slows down with kills
Did you get the quell speed talent?
Yes
its meant to be like that
i just got my zealot, their tree looks much nicer in layow.
But the peril build up ramps up
layout.
for surge build which of the blitz should I take?
Longer it runs
because scrier only ends with peril hits 100%
I can quell it just fine for its normal period
i take lightning
Even staff quell can't handle it when it stack close to 30
Yeah I'm talking about getting stacks in the 20-25 range though, maxing it seems unnecessary for the amount of queeling that's needed
It wasnt the one with 15 time which you could extend to 30 with a feat on it
Anything except Brain Burst
thats destiny
the perk you numpty
the only real niche for brain burst now is anti-sniper
Yes
Which assail also does
BB is good vs carapace though
at long range assail is throw and pray
Doesn't the aim work pretty well?
Pretty sure I hit a sniper from pretty far yesterday
Yeah, scier is much better with guns. Take too much time to handle the peril for staff.
wrong build
oh no, I hit it often. but it's just not that reliable or fast.
also I think rending shockwave does increase damage against armor by some way. When attacking a crusher I do 944 on the first charge then 1180 on the second or roughly 25% more damage on the second attack.
Ah okay
THIS is the build i use for crit surge
i use scrier for when i want to nuke everything in front of me
speaking of which, do people one-shot snipers with RMB assail? My build doesn't currently
BB is still pretty consistent as it can pratically handle anything unlike assail
mine does when I headshot them. I got warpstacks tho.
ok warpstacks is the trick
i love that warp siphon may have been an oversight and they may have made each warp siphon ability cooldown be 75% instead of 7.5%
but then you'd give up on empowered huh
Assail is pretty consistent with hitting weakspots right?
yes it tends to go for the heads
Really good against anything un-carapaced tbh
for void strike do u full charge or instant click
carapace is the only thing that assail isn't good against yeah
insta click can be spammed but damage isn't much. half charge is where I tend to stay (it one shots zombies). full charge for crushers etc
i wanna see a 4 psyker team with all assail just running thru the map demolishing everything
Normal headshot assail only do 475 on sniper, not enough to one shot. Need some extra for it.
is the perk for using your right hold block to count peril instead of stamina still a thing?
if that sentence made any sense
yes
kinetic deflection
Imagining that scene from guardians of the galaxy 2
ty spotted it
nothing is a problem for assail except carapace which is so easy to kill
How do you deal with carapace?
I seem to one hit snipers even with 0 warp stacks but I also got the 10% elite and special damage aura.
basically void when you face a horde of crushers
honestly any of the staffs but purg can deal with carapace albeit in different ways
Gonna try out surge this evening I think. Illisi should be good enough for horde clear
I might be stupid
Make an Emprah picture with domes.
For my Palpatine build I took a dueling sword
First time hitting 600k damage in a match
I have very unreliable horde clear
Nice, not even a lot of overkill
I love new Chainsword
Have to try it out
Only weapon I'm ever using on Psyker from now on
Everytime I see a screenshot of a scoreboard my eyes hurt
Chainsword with Bloodletter and +25% Unyielding paired with Assail has just about everything covered
I was the OG Bloodletter Chainsword advocate
I tried it before but I preferred combat knife in its role
But now it's amazing
Idk what staff to pair with Chainsword + Dome + Assail so I just tacked on Surge since Bulwarks and Crusher have been particularly annoying
major weakness of the assail build is monstrosities
they have like double the hp as before so the lack of boss dps is really really noticeable
don't need deflection when you can spawn 20 domes and get like 500 toughness per second.
kek
so far all my wipes have been because everyone is playing psyker and trying assail so we cant kill bosses for shit
dome goes down quickly if too many enemies shoot at it right?
probably yeah
Bloodletter and what other blessing? Is your other perk carapace?
yeah as assail player I might need someone to carry a boltgun for bosses
Also, what blessings and perks are good for surge?
how good is purgatus at killing bosses ?
nexus
This is mine
Wrath works fine for me, idk about Infested, don't care too much about it, all I really need was Unyielding
the talent page needs a search bar so we can look up specific nodes
Alright thoughts
Soulblaze is still completely fucking useless unless you're using blue flamethrower
Does surge on Trauma Staff now does the double attack with secondary attack too?
Kinetic Flayer is still completely fucking useless in general because 15 second cooldown
i prefer terrifying barrage with nexus rather than flurry
Chainsword solves that for me
5% toughness DR is just statistically worse than 15 toughness by every metric I can figure
Chaos Spawn is the only problem if it gets upset with you in particular
wot. soulblaze its totally busted when used with blazing spirit trauma too
chainsword has good boss damage now?
ill have to try it
perilous combustion is easy and cheap to get and very effective when the elites get dense.
That's what I said
you said flamethrower
trauma is not purgatus
which is purgatus
depends on what soulblaze source you're referring to
All of the damage I did on this scoreboard was from the Chainsword
perilous combustion is very good
The boss damage*
Oh you said purgatus at first
Chainsword revved lights with Bloodletter absolutely shreds bosses
funny thing is blazing spirit void got worse, specifically because void go so much better, since its killing most in one shot the fire doesnt get to spread as much
Need an ogryn gunlugger with the fire perk to absolutely melt bosses
Don't even have to hit Beast of Nurgle's weak point I just drop my shield and rev it to death while it can't touch me
Void is fucking cracked rn
Soulsteeler + Warp Expenditure just to get Battle Meditation
Never explode
Always full toughness
Everything dies
How are you getting multiple shields?
I only need one
it's bugged right now to where 1 warp charge refunds your shield
I walk in front of the Beast of Nurgle and drop the shield and spam light revs
I'm also using Telekine Shield just to get True Aim Kinetic Deflection Warp Rider and then go into Warp Siphon
You can walk back just far enough while locked onto him so that he can't eat you
And his vomit is blocked by the shield
Really kinda sucks though shield is fairly useful
So it can't touch you
ah so thats what it was
i love how they positioned the ranged crits grant immunity to ranged attacks, JUST outside of where crit fire builds can get it, GAH
I noticed something funky right away too and then saw it put together somewhere around here.
does psyker dome shield block snipers?
maybe he shot from above
I wonder if it's a thing where the sniper locks onto outside of the shield and you walk in, it'll still hurt you.
I've been domed behind cover like that before.
My tree looks dumb
But everything dies in 1 or 2 hits with voidstrike
And I have double shot on crit voidstrike blessing, so the guarnateed crit after 5 weakspot hits with True Aim is hilarious
I really wish I could just take venting shriek and still be able to do this though
I played like four games yesterday until I noticed this little bugger right here
I've killed myself three times tonight because I keep forgetting
Amazing talent and I just didn't pick it because blind
Soulstealer is kinda ridiculous
Yeah
You don't have much toughness but whenever you kill a thing you're now back to full
Dome + Assail + Soulstealer and you're just unkillable
can I get 3 psykers with Assail to try a meme run
I don't think you need to because if you kill 6 poxwalkers you're already at full toughness
Assail deez nuts
Yeah, really makes me rethink my curio choices
I have toughness regen on all of them but hardly needed
I just went max health and block cost reduction
Because you can get kinetic deflection too
Ability recharge?
If you're doing a CDR build I'd swap it for health yeah
But that's only 4% off of a 30-40s CD, so might not be worth it
If you stack all three with 12% and take the cdr abilities it's about a 30% cdr total
Can 3 psykers join my group and try an all assail build pls, DM to join group don't need voice chat
That's pretty good
It's locked out of assail but is generally cracked, if you're NOT running assail you don't need cdr
Why not abuse the warp charge bug while it's here.
What bug is that
if you take warp siphon and shield, so long as you have 1 warp charge when you cast the shield, you still have your shield.
if you farm another warp charge, you can put another shield on. and so on
Ooooh that's what happened yesterday
Oh yeah
I could do endless domes and had no idea why
They brought the cdr bug back
In a new and amazing way
Disrupt Destiny is such balls though
Oh wow thanks 4% damage
I played one game with it then stopped. Gonna let someone else figure it out.
Meanwhile I'm sitting over here with 70% effective peril reduction popping brain blasts every 1.25 seconds
Not really a fan of how quicken is baseline for warp charges now
I want to KEEP them damn it
I don't like it but you can get the charges back basically instantly
So it's w/e
In Fire Reborn is dogshit without a purgatus
And with a purgatus you don't actually need it anyways
You should just take psychic vampire because you'll get more charges with it faster with every staff because your allies are getting stacks for you instead of you relying on a DoT to finish off enemies
I guess you could take it with a trauma but? That thing mostly just gibs what it hits so again, just take the chance to get a charge on kill
For a specific build I suppose.
Psykers today.
Haven't tried Assail yet, is it nice?
very
It's a bit broken. They basically never have to take their gun out if they manage it right.
Haha, that was my exact thought when I first tried out assail. The inspiration is quite on the nose.
debatably better than purg on horde clear
when i used assail i legit forgot i had a stave
That's why it's called the Yondu build.
Oooh Yondu is his name! I couldn't remember it for the life of me
i've been going with Smite + Void Staff and thought that was working pretty well
I'ma try Assail now until I get a trauma with soulblaze
assail is my new main weapon
Then I can just meme with warp stack dome after
Void likely to get nerfed? I donโt wanna get used to it, only for FS to make that build poopoo
the only reason you cant really get away with only using assail is its piss poor performance against carapace
is Trauma staff good now? Haven't used it in like a year
does full charge void strike knock down crusher?
Trauma is good. Void is better
maybe a bit, unlikely to make it unusable its so overtuned rn
I remember Trauma generating so much peril
also what relics do people run on their psykers now
It 2-shots Crushers without +Carapace
Trauma is solid
Does that answer your question?
toughness + stam?
probably still second best staff
Agreed.
No i wanted to know if it cced crushers
Cos my perks are garbage
was considered best before the patch if you can believe it
and i wanna try it
It does. Kinda. It kills them lol
Lol. Yeah.
i havent grinded and sacrificed staves yet
Trauma with brittleness is good, no?
VERY
did they change Trauma somehow since launch?
Everything changed since launch
Aah interesting, might be worth to try now then
Kind of wish I farmed before the patch, so many things I want to try out
Vet with Lucius Mk 3 can do about as well as Voidstrike. I donโt mind. I donโt mind Psyker being OP
so what'st he best/favorite ability? brain pop, knives, lightning?
people were always complaining about Psyker being weak
Psyker SHOULD be strongest class. Period. Speaking as a Vet main
Knives
Knives
With Empowered Paionics
I like Smite a lot so far, though its probably not the best
best how, "meta"? Void and Assail are both pretty overtuned rn
smite is only good because of the bug, imo
Smite is decent because you can go other trees with it
nice! ok that was my next question.
knives with empowerd psionic better than the stacks that increase damage?
Vet mid tree is goated. Especially bottom third
It's 100% going to get nerfed
Yeah. One requires you to do to kill Enemies that are X or Y. Other requires you to just kill. You tell me which is easier, to proc. Itโs the latter, right?
I've done runs on Auric where I end with 10 melee kills
isnt void the same as it always was?
stack capstone is likely better in some way but its probably too early to tell
no
nope, its like +70% damage
No it does SIGNIFICANTLY more damage
oh, didnt feel much different when i tried it yesterday
Oooh no . It requires half or third the shots to kill a Crusher
i always thought it nuked things hard
It never 2 shot crushers before
it actually does insane single target damage, has unlimited (?) cleave for real this time
Well that's good innit
If it kills it doesn't stop
better than a wet fart
Even on armor
well I think so c:
What Abilitu do you use? Shield, Scrier etc?
One shots with scrier's 
You could already topscore on damage with void before
i'ma try out assail now
But its ability to deal with mutants crushers and maulers was kinda shit
This new ranged-shield is nice as well, worried things might be too easy now
It doesnโt need +Carapace for 2-shot
fucked with shield, its kinda fun but probably not the best, tried out shout again after
Now it just murders those things as well as the horde
Yeah no it doesn't need any + damage versus to hit breakpoints anymore
shield is cool because you can finally offer some big team utility
It's GOING to get nerfed
It doesnโt need +Carapace to 2-shot
It's so insanely strong
Lol the shield bug is funny had like 12 shields earlier
Agreed
Shield is nice but the targeting is wonk on stairs
I still need to try the shield
The only utility you should offer your team is to kill for the Emperor
What's it like?
idk if shield drops are annoying for the shooty people since its not perfectly color neutral and transparent but yknow
nobody complained yet
and getting 10%toughness per second is very nice
The stun is very situational and the double shield perk just feels useless
You're using it too often to build up stacks
I was gonna. I was actually gonna say exactly that
yeah the small shield feels a little anemic I only tried the bubble
feels like the shield is especially useful on higher difficulties where enemy Ranged are the biggest danger
yeah I figured, with people complaining about any and all effects up in their face before I am not surprised its distracting
The bubble shield is much stronger for its better coverage yeah
I get confused whenever that thing comes on screen. One moment I am shooting like a maniac, and then, wuh??? Blue screen? It legit confused me
when its bright its probably not too bad but in darkness it might fuck with your visual
i dropped one on nurgle and it blocked all his vomit from the inside
Would def rather have bubble
Is that MC? Your DP?
The second bubble perk of toughness regen and then 50 fucking % DR after it expires is cracked
huh?
Profile picture. Master Chief? Itโs a Spartan fosho
nah its not
Ffs. Autocorrectโฆ
yeah the heal is what pushed me over the edge on trying it
The expiration requirement is kinda bad though
You stupid effing algorithm
Because nobody stays in one spot for 20 seconds unless you're just completely pinned
I wanna say the shield has a health bar too
Or it's a defense mission
I think it only has a healthbar vs speicals if you take that talent tree
on damnation it does go away when you drop it in front of a solid amount of gunners and reapers
hmm
But I've not come across any like
it does hold for a while but I feel like its gone away before the cd
Big huge hordes of shooters that lasted
Assail - anyone else just find it silly easy to spam psyker whistle arrows at the enemy in a fore and forget kinda way?
Fire* and forget
Yes but also it's funne
Vet legit has a goated mid-tree. I got so much rending on my Devilโs Claw, it was amazing
fun fact, if you hover over enemies it follows your crosshair for the 3 jumps ish
its not entirely fire and forget
This is useful info thank you
you can also send em out and switch back to staff and keep steering em
Jesus.
Yeah exactly
Lol all my games last night felt like all classes were now OP.
How hard we gonna get nerfed or how much will enemies be buffed?
I found out about this thanks to one of the early access vids
If anything i feel that all difficulties are more accessible now, which is a good thing
what should i change on this
heard on the gravevine its likely in the works
Heresy can still be difficult if you got ass teammate and/or the AI director decides to drown you in elites and specialists
I'd change mutant resistance but I am no expert.
I haven't gone past malice yet. I think I'll look for a low-int heresy match tonight to dip my staff in
yeah i think i'll i''ll change it to gunners
Heresy is fine usually, even on normal int. Ive played it a bit before the rework but heresy seems to be my go-to now, unless i decide to help noobs and join sedition on quickplay
The classes rework really helped a ton. And there was a lot of stat tweaks all over too
Which probably had some effect
prob mutant resist, toughness regen isnt great either but mutant resist is borderline pointless
just dodge em
If you still want to make your life hell, theres damnation and auric maelstrom missions
get + toughness or something

gunners are usually what kills you so eh
personally i like toughness regen
people still play heresy??
since toughness gets so many buffs from the tree now
I get rid of them easily, snipers remain the most deadly to me
im sure people also still play the first two difficulties
not everyone is as sweaty as people who spend time talking in here

True
my game crashes whenever i try to play the throwing shards
Im not even sweaty tbh, but i DID notice that heresy is significantly more stress-free now
i may try it with high intensity sometime
yeah every class seems to be much stronger now
Take pride in being sweaty
yeah i'll just stick with the classic gunner + sniper res
I have a mere 150 hours in the game
basically everyone has had their moment of "whoa"
ogryn players stanning ogrynheimer, vets giggling to themselves over krag grenades
Good lord Emperor no. I've got 2 kids. Work a mentally taxing deskjob 50 hours a week.... I need to be a filthy casual that is somewhat challenged but no punished.
havent heard from my zealot buddy but im sure theyre excited about the area denial grenade
I ain't got time or energy to try hard.
If I get to Auric it will be because I've accrued enough skill and experience that it fits that criteria
and the buff zealot seems very nice
What remains dangerous about those high difficulty missions is the fact that everything can go super smoothly up until the end... Then the game spawns 5 elites and 10 specialist in a enclosed space and youre f u c k e d
I had a game like that yesterday
Happened to me yesterday, we were literally on the hall that lead to a exfil elevator and we all got downed right there

Damnation, I fucked up right at the end and blew up thanks to running assail + scrier
I actually find its sort of a nice zen-trance thing to do Damnation, your mind just empties
man I blew up so many more times, that muscle memory of using my last cast really has been fucking me
Reason why venting shriek is still a viable ability:
playing basically since release with the one extra cast
Yeah, I mained illisi + shredder before the patch and haven't blown up for AGES
Wait, they removed the extra cast at <=97%?
I mean its still viable because it gets 6 soublaze stacks every time no upkeep
oh no
no, I mean when youre above, but have shout to get out of it
They did definitely do something with peril. Im not sure what it is
Aaah right
I got so used to basically overcasting and shouting I fucked myself a few times yesterday
Scrier is pretty neat because you get that extra cast when it's active
You just have to make sure to not press it further
They gave us 2 combat abilities that don't quell peril and I've consequently blown up more times than I'm willing to admit.
Both the quell speed and quell while running talents are gold, which is weird because before I'd never even consider any of them haha
Same. Sad but hilarious for my psyker ๐
I seem to stick with the venting shriek ability anyway. I dont find the shields all that useful, and scrier ability is just for gun psykers mainly, not to mention its pretty boring
i just played a hi shock game without using my melee or ranged wep
Assail?
The dome is incredible imo
0 melee kills. ok i did accidentally use my melee for 1 swing
Ranged fire is what gets me down like 9/10 times
and i got top total score on scoreboard lmfao
the other psyker had 0 melee kills too wtf i just noticed, he was using surge too tho
yea he had surge staff
i literally never used my melee or ranged wep
except an accidental melee swing
i just used assail only lmao
Assail is amazing
Kind of wish it had a tad more charges though, I don't like running out of evil mind crystals mid horde
shits broken lmao thanks fatshark
Also both shots now crit with the surge blessing
Old vet mains: "Vet is ruined!!!"
Me, who actually really likes new vet: "Vet is actually interesting!!!"
wrong board?
No I just didn't want vet mains to see that I am disagreeing with them
do run and gun work?
I dont know why but it just doesn't allow me to sprint while using secondary attack
Hey. I must ask? I jsut start playing for the first time. And are there like any staffs in thr game? Like a traditional magic? I am a big mage fan? I know nothing about the game? Any help would be kind.
It's literally 3 messages above you. There's a staff right there. There are multiple, yes. Lightning, fire, aoe explosion, explody ball shooter, etc
this
Yes there are, you get them later as you level up
do run and gun work?
Yes I notice that, I kinda didnโt know any to change my message, sorry
Iโll make sure to keep my eyes out for those,
good?
normally yes
It's aight. Yes, as you level up you'll start unlocking new weapons, both melee and ranged. Psyker has staves too as ranged weapons
which stat is le dump stat?
yes but hope for good blessings and modifiers otherwise it's gonna be less strong than anticipated
precognition ?
I don't play regular swords, I find the force sword way better at everyting
I mean the deimos is probably one of the best weak point weapon in the game
rending might be good on the duelling sword I believe
rending + shred I believe are better blessings
The dueling swords are insane now
I still think they're outshined by the force swords
Force swords have more power, but the dueling sword 4 has an insane attack speed
I prefered the Ilius ws that the name? prepatch, haven't played psyker yet.
Didn't like deimos animations
Illisi
Illisi has the slash when charged
Deimos does the succ when charged
Also I think the Deimos looks stupid
And then theres the third force sword which is kinda like deimos but worse
barbed stabbing sword

fkn genius made that one
I think it looks funny
Imagine some poor psyker stabbing a mutant and then just gets dragged along
Barbs means it tears more
And being dragged along isn't an issue if you properly maintain the Omnissiahs gifts
It's a mind laser sword, just pull it out using your mind
Since Void staff is a thing now - look what i dug out in my Inventory
It's more thing then it was ๐

Before thing now more thing
Thingier
It made us Ogryn
Give it a week and it's one foot back in the grave for the Psyker
duellies were buffed
Dueling swords (with rending) are dope rn
Psyker was always really good though, you just had to play a very specific build (Shredder)
I'm just trying to find out what to run on my shredder pistol
I'm gonna slash you duelling swords lovers in half with the power of my mind
mk4 duelly heavies
never said the duelling sword sucks ass, I just say I still think FS are better even with the obvious buff
deimos h2
and i never said that you said that
I'm saying that the mk4 is better than the deimos
yeah but force sword looks cooler 
blows up rations with mind
I'd probably go with BB, CDR Aura, Scrier, Warp Charges
not the deimos
Based and emperor pilled
Or maybe Elite aura is better
Oh I more meant what blessings to aim for.
I've not used the machine pistol tbqh.
Picked up Psyker again after the buffs.
Was a Vet player, lol
Despite dueling 4 being cool AF - i'm still sticking to Illsi
It is quite good
based
Im considering usingnit as a backup on my assail psyker
I dont know how I feel about deimos charge being more like illisi charge now too
I almost miss the shitty "get stuck" thing
every weapon is a back-up when you have assail for real
stockholm syndrome ๐
Ah, I think Pinning Fire + Cavalcade/Blaze away with Carapace/Flak should work fine still
at least it did a fuckton of damage
Also i dont have good Dueling 4......
I spent an entire game just slinging arrows left and right without ever pulling my staff
even if it felt like shit
karking Hadron....
phrasing
True but the machine pistol is great at dealing with most things and is such a dps beast so its a safe bet @glad sandal
Is this a mod?
by the emperor your mind is corrupted by slaanesh
It is
yeah but mind powers
Gah. I've never modded a game before - seems like now is the time to learn
checkmate atheist
I cant believe I will have to figure out how the fuck mods work again today
I know what im doing
Love the cape!
Unfortunately, even my funny immaterium glass shards run out sometimes. :(
I know my goal for tomorrow, lmao
Just redownload them, put them in the mods folder, run the .bat-script
have you considered the following : M i n d P o w e r s
RAHHHHH
