psyker-class

[lethal plover]

and a tanker

[wanton sandal]

it does nutty damage to specials and elites

[smoky badge]

Man, it's crazy. That empower buff limits the peril generation from scrier during sustained smite usage.

[digital narwhal]

Just having any Ogryn with a Psyker is a recipe for a successful run now tbh

[fluid knot]

Tbh only things ive seen it struggle with at all are Bulwarks and Crushers

[digital narwhal]

Maulers too

[wanton sandal]

surge staff bros are dying rn with the release of smite

it just does its job but way better

[fluid knot]

On an off with those, sometimes they go down easy, other times not so much

[wild sable]

does smites alt fire work correctly? the description reads as if it's supposed to do rapid single target but it feels more like higher damage normal fire

[shy prairie]

FYI, Bloodthirsty on the Ilisi can give you on demand ghost for 1 second

[fluid knot]

Not at all, Surge is supposedly cracked for damage now

[smoky badge]

The CC is nuts. I changed to void just for something to kill large enemies.

[wanton sandal]

ong? i gotta check the patch notes

[shy prairie]

getting shot? just press q and crit something to become immune to ranged

[wanton sandal]

easiest 16k staggers of my life

[primal plume]

A reminder that the psyker bubble also regens toughness and gives damage resist when it ends

so its still useful even if theres no shooter

the regen also stacks

[digital narwhal]

Yeah
Do also keep in mind that entirely denying Specialists n' Elites from moving through your Shield is very useful too

Honestly, both Telekine Shield branches are 10/10 imo

[tall mango]

love me dome

[primal plume]

threw 2 on the zealot tanking a boss and his toughness regen was huge

[lavish forge]

am I crazy or did they reduce our max health and toughness because of the toughness nodes?

[tall mango]

they did

toughness is baseline lower

[digital narwhal]

Health is the same iirc, but Toughness did go down.

[tall mango]

Psyker was at 100 base

he is now…i wanna say 75

[digital narwhal]

HOWEVER, it's a net improvement for us with Toughness Nodes anyway

[wanton sandal]

i'd say it's fair for how potent psyker is now

[digital narwhal]

70 iirc

[lavish forge]

whats better then toughness nodes or toughness amage resist

[digital narwhal]

Toughness

[long wharf]

just get +30% toughness regen speed on all your curios, ezpz

[tall mango]

i have 20% toughness damage reduction

[digital narwhal]

But, you usually end up with both anyway

[tall mango]

it’s so good

[burnt tapir]

how do you properly use assail?

[full bane]

Spam it duh

[smoky badge]

Look at a horde, click multiple times and delete them

[weak galleon]

damn i love new voidstrike

[digital narwhal]

Spam it, or aim in if you need to hit a specific enemy or a far away enemy

[lavish forge]

how is it changed?

[weak galleon]

+70% dmg on direct hits.
more cleave.

[long wharf]

not "more cleave"

[lavish forge]

its always had great cleave

[long wharf]

all the cleave

[lavish forge]

and did decent damage

[long wharf]

no, it had crap cleave

[wanton sandal]

new primary on staves is really good

[long wharf]

only hit 4 enemies before

[wanton sandal]

also assail is a mutie slayer

[weak galleon]

yes, it was my favorite staff before, even though it was considered weakest by community.

now tho...

[fluid knot]

6

[long wharf]

4

[weak galleon]

definitely not 4.

[fluid knot]

No... 6

[lavish forge]

i used to wipe hordes with that thing

[weak galleon]

^

same

[lavish forge]

idk i sed to think it was good

[long wharf]

the AoE helped kill things

[dawn orchid]

Just tried smite, seems to do essentially no damage at all. Surge seems decent enough damage

[fluid knot]

An even then, half the time it would bug out an you'd get way more than 6

[wanton sandal]

stagger king

[long wharf]

now, there is no cleave limit for Void staff

[wanton sandal]

does basically no damage at all though

[weak galleon]

no way aoe could reach across the room in psykanium, unless that test map lied.

[fluid knot]

I used void selectively since the release window lol

[long wharf]

it didn't

[weak galleon]

it had enough cleave.

definitely not 4.

[shy prairie]

im so glad i have a crit deimos...

[dawn orchid]

It's just more clearly defined old surge then

[shy prairie]

the insanity

[fluid knot]

It had 6 enemies cleaved, when not bugging out, and was the best non-purgatus Soulblaze applicator

[dawn orchid]

Not sure why smite has a charge up, it barely does more damage

[fluid knot]

An tbh it still is on that latter point, more so given the now much faster casting speed

[wanton sandal]

i think charged smite spreads some icky biolightning or whatever

its not very clear

[dawn orchid]

I'm guessing it's for "instant" cc application in scenarios where you can't channel uncharged for long

[rocky hedge]

lets see them surge builds baby

[dawn orchid]

But charged doesn't uniformly stagger all elites/specials either, maulers just shrug it off

Although it does make bulwarks drop shield

[ornate hamlet]

so whats the best staff now

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike

[dawn orchid]

Probably voidstrike

[tall mango]

voidstrike

[fluid knot]

From the bottom to the top in one single patch

An it is glorious

[wanton sandal]

i knew voidstrike would have its comeback

[dawn orchid]

Surge seems acceptable from testing in the psyk, but voidstrike is undoubtedly the best

[white cedar]

I don't know is it bug or intended but if you use Smite with Empowered Psionics, the Smite will not cost any Peril. 😄

[tall mango]

it can CC entire hordes

[fluid knot]

Its a bug ye

[tall mango]

#1158835513789272126 message

The left click is useless imo

does the same damage but can only hit 2-3 max

[magic whale]

Anyone playing with smite using Empowered psionics?

[tall mango]

i am

it’s insanely strong

[magic whale]

It’s so fun

[wanton sandal]

its stupid

so good

[tall mango]

check the vids and see how good that shit is

i pray they keep it

[white cedar]

me

[wanton sandal]

it WILL be patched out in a week i promise

[cedar lantern]

so i noticed that i cant 2 shot crushers with brain burst is there a build that lets me do that again?

[wanton sandal]

so have fun with it now

[burnt tapir]

so what does rightlick assail do vs left click

[magic whale]

I don’t think the chaining potential is worth it

[white cedar]

the skill without bug is really bad XD

[tall mango]

????

it ABSOLUTELY is worth it

[sterile saddle]

right click does 25% peril and hits harder

[magic whale]

https://tenor.com/view/power-starwars-unlimited-power-gif-15939349

[sterile saddle]

left click is 10%

[tall mango]

I was stunning literally entire hordes

[tall mango]

Not at all

It’s still an incredibly strong crowd CC

It’s about using it correctly

[sterile saddle]

its excellent for repositioning when u need to buy time to get to cover

[tall mango]

the bug just removes the using it correctly

[sterile saddle]

and it works really well on armor

[magic whale]

I got CC and toughness revenging shield, im loving the support role

[wanton sandal]

supposedly there's enough skills that give you +50% brain burst over the original one

[tall mango]

because if you have it forever, well..

[wanton sandal]

idk which tho

[tall mango]

EP

[dawn orchid]

A lot of the vids are from a previous build where things were stronger

[tall mango]

My vids

[magic whale]

None of the warp abilities can crit right?

[tall mango]

in the build channel

[tall mango]

Assail can

and it’s very strong

[white cedar]

yep

[magic whale]

Oh cool, that makes sense

[tall mango]

1k damage per headshot

can do insane burst damage

[dawn orchid]

So smite can't? Here I was making a smite/surge crit build

[tall mango]

It cannot

But it doesn’t need to

[dawn orchid]

[magic whale]

Anyone tested out the soul blaze potential on smite though?

[white cedar]

it's not made for damage, just CC

[tall mango]

I have a little bit

It’s not as good as soulblaze assail

assail with sb can absolutely shred hordes

[dawn orchid]

Where's the build channel?

That gameplay help?

[tall mango]

#1158835513789272126

[dawn orchid]

Ah I see, zero peril smite for infinite channeling

It's just smite now

[lavish forge]

what happened to surge

oh so smite is better now

got it

[meager eagle]

right click with smite

[shadow quail]

Smite is for controlling

[meager eagle]

everything in front of you staggered infinitely

[tall mango]

smite is insanely good

[warm flint]

i am glad that you like it

[tall mango]

it’s exactly what you’re looking for though..?

controlling the field?

that’s what it does

[shadow quail]

smite can stun 20+ things permanently currently. For CC is is much better than old surge

[warm flint]

it is not the same, it is not what the surge staff did

[tall mango]

it does it better

[dawn orchid]

Can you give smite crit chance with scriers gaze?

Or does it not crit no matter what

[tall mango]

It does not crit

[dawn orchid]

whack

There goes my hype

[reef island]

newish to psyker, what stat for a curio am I lookin for?

[rose dagger]

infinite smite is crazy but i still say the crystal throwing knifes are better

[weak galleon]

high damage on charged hits? is description wrong or I'm doing smth wrong?
checking it in Psykhanium, damnation

[tall mango]

it is incorrect

[shadow quail]

Surge wishes it could control the field the same way smite does.

[tall mango]

smite damage does not change

[weak galleon]

it barely deals any damage. Seems like a good stun though

[tall mango]

the damage is not what it’s for

it’s an insanely strong CC tool

[tall mango]

can disable entire hordes

[shadow quail]

Yeah the damage is shit

[tall mango]

yes and hadron isn’t a clown

[shadow quail]

But you can infiently stun everything and then swap to void and one tap almost anything.

[weak galleon]

it does seem like a very decent stun, tho

[tall mango]

That’s is correct too

[shadow quail]

it's not decent it's broken atm lol

[weak galleon]

not sure how it holds up in a mixed horde

[tall mango]

#1158835513789272126 that’s how it does against mixed hordes

[weak galleon]

how many enemies can it stun at once?

[shadow quail]

20

and with no peril atm

[novel locust]

to all those who use the throwing crystals: do you guys find yourselfs just using the crystals instead of your gun becasue its more effective?

[tall mango]

It feels like more than 20

[white hemlock]

This is surely a bug, right? From the empowered charges that aren't supposed to make it free

[shadow quail]

Yeah it's a bug, but in it's current state it is broken af

[white hemlock]

100%

[tall mango]

I wouldn’t say it’s broken tbh

[white hemlock]

I would.

[tall mango]

If you play poorly you can be interrupted out of it

[white hemlock]

And then go to the next charge of free

[tall mango]

It requires not being hit, at all

[weak galleon]

infinite peril? what?

am i seeing it right.

[tall mango]

EP

Yes

[white hemlock]

You can literally just hold the button down infedinitely and spin your camera 360 until you win the game

[tall mango]

Truthfully this isn’t as broken as the shards

you cannot stun monstrosities

nor does it do much damage

and the longer it takes to kill, the longer they have to get closer, and you can only stun so many things

plus snipers and gunners can out range you

knives just, kill them

[weak galleon]

yeah thats a bug. and a one they'll probably hotfix by tomorrow, so I wont get to taste it in actual game.

should be fun playing Palpatines rn.

[fluid knot]

Shards are less broken than Relic tbh

[tall mango]

I think it should stay in some form also TRUE

Relic is insanely good

[fluid knot]

Which can stun monsters and however many there are in the situation along with everything else

[magic whale]

Is that the zealot holding up the badge thing?

[tall mango]

Palpatine quivers at the thought of some holy relic being more powerful than him

[fluid knot]

Ye

[dawn orchid]

The description is definitely misleading, the charged smite barely does any damage and doesn't even uniformly stagger

[warm flint]

yeah, just gonna have to disagree, smite is not a good replacement for nerf to surge staff

[tall mango]

me when people are wrong

[warm flint]

you can like it, that's cool

[untold vault]

90% of the match I was just spamming assail. The only thing it cant do is boss dmg.

[tall mango]

can surge stun an entire horde forever?

[untold vault]

Why would you stun a horde?

[warm flint]

if you are talking about the left click hold with the buff, that is obviously a bug..

[tall mango]

support psyker

[untold vault]

You stun specials

[noble spoke]

Check out my gun

[tall mango]

shield and huge CC

[untold vault]

Hordes arent worth stunning ever

[tall mango]

the specials are in the horde

[shadow quail]

You stun the specials and the horde

[untold vault]

You have the most op melee weapons in the game

[dawn orchid]

Don’t recommend the mk2 recon, it’s easily the worst

[tall mango]

it’s an adverse side effect of greatness

also i definitely wouldn’t say most OP

[ionic needle]

what perks and blessings do we go for on voidstrike with assail?

[tall mango]

zealots hammer exists and can one shot monstrosities

[untold vault]

MK1 VLD is where it's at

[tidal violet]

Sweet karkin' emperor does Assail feel good after Psyker sucking for a year straight.

[whole oxide]

tbh i don't see the reason to take Assail with Void, they're competing to do the same thing

Assail with Trauma, Smite with Void

[fluid knot]

Surge wasnt nerfed mate

[ionic needle]

Ah, makes sense

[untold vault]

You use assail with guns 🙂

[fluid knot]

It was straight up buffed

It can actually kill things now

[dawn orchid]

Has the lowest dps (pitifully low) of the three and the recons don’t appear to have been numerically buffed since last patch either.

[white hemlock]

tfw you were using voidstrike since before the buff and you now feel like a god

[ionic needle]

Perks and blessings for trauma then?

[wanton sandal]

if you dont icepick lobotomize your enemies, are you even a psyker?

also the new lines for assail are epic

[fluid knot]

Not at all, Void is capable of both single target and huge cleave, and can kill Crushers, which Shards cannot

[untold vault]

Shards can kill crushers

[whole oxide]

well, yeah, Void is insane and kinda does everything

[fluid knot]

As for using assail with guns, sure, thats an option, but with the peril resistance feat and warp charges its relatively safe to use with Scriers

[ionic needle]

All assail really is missing is carapace and boss damage

[untold vault]

You just need to be using a revovler with rending

But I would never use assail with voidstrike

[fluid knot]

Void literally two shots them

[dawn orchid]

Void will probably get nerfed

[fluid knot]

Probably a bit yeah

[ionic needle]

Revolver sounds really fun

[fluid knot]

Its very strong at the moment

[white hemlock]

Void feels godly. I liked it before the buff and now it's cross

[dawn orchid]

I’m curious to see where smite lands when they fix INFINITE POWER with EP

[white hemlock]

gross*

[shadow quail]

Without the bug smite does eat up peril

[untold vault]

The old surge but shittier

[whole oxide]

tbh, the only thing that seems broken about Void, when you compare it to other insane stuff that's available, is the Surge synergy with all the new traits

[fluid knot]

It'll be better now they've apparently fixed the hitreg issue

[untold vault]

They fixed hounds too

[fluid knot]

Yep, that is sooo nice

[untold vault]

Im extremely happy about that

[dawn orchid]

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I don’t expect it to be terribly strong with the fix, although for pure utility with shield it might find a niche

[fluid knot]

Pushes an dodges are actually reliable now for the first time in the games life

[untold vault]

I did heavy attack on hounds with the axe

[wanton sandal]

what guns are my assail psykers running?

[untold vault]

Worked pre patch

[wanton sandal]

i got a laspistol but idk bout it

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike

[fluid knot]

I never tried that tbh

[dawn orchid]

Shredder is no longer turbo OP

[untold vault]

Revolver with crit chance

And rending

[fluid knot]

Didnt fancy my chances with it with not superfast internet

[untold vault]

The trick is to never use the revolver and just hold it

Switch to assail

[fluid knot]

An its beautiful

Im so glad that annoying shit weapon isnt in every lobby anymore

[untold vault]

Use it only if enemies are far far away and assail is not reliable anymore

[tidal violet]

Also glad to see that the consensus on Smite is that it's not great. I was worried I was missing something about it.

[strong gulch]

Is blaze trauma still a thing?
Do we have Blazing Spirit 4 yet?

[dawn orchid]

I mean, it was a really good weapon

[wanton sandal]

what no it's amazing

[tidal violet]

Bummed I can't combo Shriek and Assail.

[fluid knot]

We do not, but yeah its still strong

[wanton sandal]

the cc with empowered is STUPID

[dawn orchid]

ep is bugged

[strong gulch]

thanks

[fluid knot]

Arguably as good as Void in some respects, in others worse, but not by a huge amount

[wanton sandal]

exactly why its stupid

without the ep bug idk if i';d use it al ot tho

[shadow quail]

They need to fix the bug but I feel smite needs lower peril costs

[ionic needle]

I really liked shredder, but the new stuff is so cool

[dawn orchid]

People are trying to assess powerlevel without clear bugs likely to be fixed immediately

So on that end, it's eh

[tall mango]

I think they should add a -50% peril cost to EP for smite after removing the bug

[dawn orchid]

Think they should give it crit too so I can build surge/smite crit build

[shadow quail]

and void's damage i feel will be changed, is far too much

[wanton sandal]

yeah, llower peril smite might make me use it a lot more

[shadow quail]

Surge should be doing more because it's close range

[languid tusk]

voistrike damage is buffed O_O ? rly ?

i dont even have a voidstrike staff to test it XD

[shadow quail]

Lmao. Try it.

[shadow quail]

2 shots crushers on damn.

[low badger]

hey guys zealot player here if i wanted to play a melee oriented psyker is that possible

[languid tusk]

just had a maelstrom match where i could see the buffed spawn rates. had a wave of like 20 maulers

the evolved form of the mauler patrol

[lyric burrow]

is it just me or does smite feel really mid

[ionic needle]

I'd say yes

[wanton sandal]

the cc is nutty but the damage is nothing

[dawn orchid]

I assume illisi is still the indisputable strongest melee in the game, so you could, but it'd be a massive waste not to utilize psykers ranged abilities

[lyric burrow]

the stuns nice but i feel like i could use the other abilites/any staff and just kill it instead

[wanton sandal]

do NOT try to kill anything with it

its just a really useful team tool

[tall mango]

smite is a support psyker skill

[lyric burrow]

i was hoping it would at least kill hordes

[low badger]

oh of course i'm just terminally slayerbrained

[wanton sandal]

0 to full peril will maybe kill some trash

[shadow quail]

Dropping shield and stunning melee forever is real good support. It's support.

[tall mango]

i see three psykers, support, murder hobo, and murder everything hobo

[wanton sandal]

it is not reliable though

[elfin crystal]

the new throwing knives are pretty good

[magic whale]

A lot the psyker penances want me to use Brain Burst

[tall mango]

yeah they didn’t add any new penances

[wanton sandal]

they're very fun

[elfin crystal]

agreed

[wanton sandal]

the homing can feel wonky tho

[elfin crystal]

just spam em

[languid tusk]

just bought a white voidstrike staff from teh armory:

[elfin crystal]

one's bound to hit lmao

[languid tusk]

dont even have carapace perk lmao

[shadow quail]

Told you 😆

it's broken

[lyric burrow]

void is actually nutty

[elfin crystal]

is the 2 for 1 blessing worth it on void now or is it the same old setup?

[shadow quail]

It has to be bugged

[languid tusk]

the nuke staff

[lyric burrow]

yeah void actually feels like bugged

levels of broken

[shadow quail]

I don't see it staying this way for long

[elfin crystal]

a crit built surge staff is fucking deadly now

[languid tusk]

so you are saying investing all my 50k plasteel on the perfect voidstrike would be a bad idea ?

[neat summit]

There’s some funky interaction with the brain burst that’s giving free brain bursts

I e no peril bb

[shadow quail]

EP?

[shadow quail]

Do you have empowered psionics? that is giving smire free no peril attacks

[neat summit]

Could be

[snow coral]

only 50k? those are rookie numbers

[lyric burrow]

theres a chance they dont nerf it but i think it very much needs a nerf

[snow coral]

I think void feels good right now

[dawn orchid]

Yeah I'd wait until they get some patches out before doing big investing

[snow coral]

It's nice that a charge shot does something against more things than just trash

[shadow quail]

Void isn't good it's busted lol

[lyric burrow]

i dont think i need to be killing every elite and multiple elites per shot

it just does what surge was meant to

but 100x better

[elfin crystal]

i would say a lot of shit are overtuned tbf

the quell speed is nuts if you take the regen for it

for exemple

[fluid knot]

Its great eh? Maelstrom is properly challenging now

[tidal violet]

Possible, not optimal.

[fluid knot]

Its overtuned in middling difficulties, very much not in the highest, fits right in

[elfin crystal]

i'm running my build in auric

[tidal violet]

Psyker is probably the only class without a "the melee build" build.

[elfin crystal]

it's hilarious

[fluid knot]

Well given how mental the director can be in Auric Maelstrom i'd say the powerlevel suits what it expects of you

Its balls to the wall now all the way, little to no breathers, an thats fantastic

[elfin crystal]

yeah maybe

[long wharf]

what's the point of the Auric missions?

[low badger]

mmmyeah i figured. still trying to figure out what i'd do between vet and psyker and i figure i conceptually like psyker more than vet... but i'm not much of a priority target killer

[fluid knot]

Difficulty

[elfin crystal]

that would make sense. i am als otechnically maxed so i guess that makes sense too

[lyric burrow]

yeah auric is fun

[long wharf]

in what way? the mission rewards aren't better

[fluid knot]

The director has less and less restraint

[elfin crystal]

they throw a lot of shit at you

[fluid knot]

Up to Maelstrom, where it has exactly zero now

[elfin crystal]

also nice to see deflector in the tree now

[fluid knot]

Nahh, thats kinetic shield, different to deflector

[tropic timber]

Is Assail over powered?

[elfin crystal]

oh oopsie

[fluid knot]

Its very good, i wouldnt say overpowered just yet, too early to really tell

[wanton sandal]

nah it feels balanced enough

[lyric burrow]

assail is probably a little overtuned imo

[elfin crystal]

it is very good if you build for them to be spammable

[wanton sandal]

i use it for burst

[lyric burrow]

but not crazy

[tidal violet]

My ass decided to main psyker when I first played and I still haven't hit 30 because of how awful it was.

I'm riding this while I can.

[elfin crystal]

😔

[fluid knot]

Thats like one feat though, one of the ones next to the ability anyway

[spice veldt]

p much

assail is pretty cracked for now

[fluid knot]

I been running it with Scriers, Warp Charges an peril resist, its great, dangerous, but great

[wanton sandal]

i do like using mind in motion now

[lyric burrow]

does scriers work with anything other than gunker

[cyan notch]

more dockets

[lyric burrow]

well

[fluid knot]

Yeah works with everything, you just gotta be much more careful with letting your peril get high when not using a gun, which adds to the skill ceiling a lot in exchange for a lot mroe damage

[long wharf]

I've been comparing, not seeing more dockets for similar difficulties

[untold vault]

I think there is a bug with the stun shield. Sometimes the dog just walks through it

Other times the dog gets stunned

[elfin crystal]

i wish i could show the full tree i have, but basically i took the global damage nodes, more knives, efficiency and a couple other things and it just melts everything. i'm using the on crit effects and have bass boosted crits due to surge

[untold vault]

Every other special/elite gets stunned

[tidal violet]

Scriers is great, but I'm used to shriek saving me from peril and if I blink for too long I'm at 90%

[spice veldt]

they're the same missions

the auric board simply guarantees hi-intensity missions

the maelstroms are what gives a bunch of dockets

[tacit fractal]

I’ve not touched Darktide in a hot bit, are the new class overhaul stuff even viable in T5 missions?

[long wharf]

ah okay

[elfin crystal]

wait what is that shit?

[lyric burrow]

loadouts

[elfin crystal]

oh aight thanks

[wanton sandal]

speaking for psyker, it makes them even more manageable

[lyric burrow]

yeah most things have been viable since they buffed psyker forever ago

[untold vault]

It actually made most T5 missions easier imo

[tacit fractal]

By ”managable” you mean far easier?

[wanton sandal]

yeah and far more fun

[untold vault]

Muties assailing ur team? Psyker presses F and they all run into a wall

[tacit fractal]

Wow, so I can play T5 missions without putting effort? Love it Fatshark

[untold vault]

That stuff even stops grenades in its tracks

Snipers and gunners? Trivialized

[tacit fractal]

Will probably feel like Cataclysm in V2 now with the boys aka fun and easy

[untold vault]

Of course i think the shield as an invisible hp bar so if you got 3 reapers shooting it + scab gunners it wont last long

[wanton sandal]

have yet to play maelstrom with the new update, but i imagine i can actually survive it now

[tacit fractal]

What’s maelstrom?

[elfin crystal]

here's what i run for what it's worth

[wanton sandal]

how noticeable is empowered with assail?

[lyric burrow]

very

[elfin crystal]

yeah

[wanton sandal]

im running warp charges and really appreciate the peril reduction, but idk about running ep

[lyric burrow]

shreds everything and keeps itself up

[digital narwhal]

Extremely

[elfin crystal]

it's pretty stupid

[digital narwhal]

Just make sure you have the guaranteed charge on Elite kill option

[lyric burrow]

its like

old vet ult

in some ways

[untold vault]

It's broken op tier

Allows you to throw assail with more dmg, no peril cost and no ammo cost

[lyric burrow]

for the surge nexus build in void do you need to have t4 nexus or is t3 fine

[untold vault]

It's what allows you to "Spam" assail into elites/specials

[broken quail]

Anyone else notice getting stacks of disrupt destiny without any blue highlighted enemies? I think there might be bug not lighting em up every time

[tidal violet]

They really need a way to export/share your talents that isn't so . . .quirky.

[elfin crystal]

also this 👌

[true lake]

is this any good for gun psyker?

[wanton sandal]

goated

[true lake]

never tried gun psyker much

[wanton sandal]

same, only just now trying it out but i dont wanna use the shredder 😭

[tacit fractal]

It’s fun

[true lake]

just not sure if those blessings are any good or not

[untold vault]

replace speedload

and replace specialists with maniac if you play auric/T5

[true lake]

what might you recommend to replace speedload with

[untold vault]

Pinning fire

[tacit fractal]

Gun Spyker is entertaining and pretty simple in T5 and in T4 it’s effortless imo

[true lake]

pinning fire, will keep an eye out for it

[tacit fractal]

Tradeoff is ammo management for the team cause yknow, you’re not using the Warp for ranged power

[true lake]

my usual malice difficulty feels so easy now after update so been looking at possible builds to experiment with

[untold vault]

It used to be

Blaze away + Pinning fire
Maniac + unarmored/flak

Idk if it changed

[true lake]

not that i know of

[wanton sandal]

do we no longer have cerebral lacerations for bb?

[true lake]

it got put into a new talent

forgot where it is on tree tho

[wanton sandal]

trying to find it. it made bb really potent

[ornate hamlet]

Assail is good, but it sounds so... pathetic

I want boomy piercing

I think I'll get another blitz

[warped widget]

psyker now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFCcJCAV0rE

[primal plume]

those crystals are pretty strong

i used them exclusively

damnation

[languid tusk]

lmao voiidstrike does enough stagger to stagger the beast of nurgle on a weakspot hit

[primal plume]

good

[languid tusk]

makes it spit out the vored victim

[wanton sandal]

tragic that wildfire is on the other side of assail, no pyropsyker with lobotomy shards :(

[primal plume]

its been shit for too long

copeatus users on life support

[cyan portal]

wildfire rubbish anyway, lobotomy pyro very online

[steep oriole]

Fucking finally gun psyker

[nocturne badge]

the voidstrike is so broken holy fuck

[steep oriole]

what guns are good besides the auto pistol? I'm thinking anything that can land good crits but still decently precise

[warped widget]

it works perfectly fine be quiet with your heresy

[harsh urchin]

Maybe volver

I'm not convinced autopistol is too great currently

[nocturne badge]

las pistol is pgud memes, great weakspot and crit damage

generate peril with it out using it's push

[digital narwhal]

Auto Pistol got schnerfed

[harsh urchin]

Nerfs hit it hard and you have a lot of trouble against carapace

[digital narwhal]

Specifically Pinning Fire, the Blessing that made it nutso

[harsh urchin]

BB takes 3 hits to kill a crusher now

[nocturne badge]

and voidstrike also takes 3 lol

[harsh urchin]

I havent tried out vs yet

But new surge is great

[nocturne badge]

80% damage voidstrike is literally firing 1300 damage bowling balls that ignore everything

[harsh urchin]

I'm also considering dropping illisi for dueling sword

Because of how disgusting the dueling sword is now

[nocturne badge]

they deal damage thru bulwark shield, they deal full damage to carapace

you can oneshot anything that isn't a mutant or ogyrn with a void strike it's supremely goofy

[harsh urchin]

Is it still target capped at 6

[nocturne badge]

i'd have to double check, but i think it got more cleave too

[primal plume]

holy shit

[bold patrol]

Yeah but it's a machine gun

[nocturne badge]

if you need horde clear run it with assail

and wildfire shout

[harsh urchin]

I have some ideas with VS but need to experiment with it lol

[primal plume]

the smite pushback after casting pushes enemies into the direction youre facing. meaning you can fling enemies off ledges

[bold patrol]

Based and voidstrike pilled

[gaunt stone]

Is slaught still the go to for swords they seemed to have nerfed it a bit*

[whole oxide]

void cleave went from 7 to 11 it looks like

[harsh urchin]

Oh thats quite good

Does it do 1300 to all enemies

[ornate hamlet]

Now wait a fucking minute

With scrier's gaze depending on the player not being at 100% peril

Does this mean exorcist is now a poggers blessing?

[harsh urchin]

Not really cuz the peril builds exponentially

[whole oxide]

the way scriers works, the peril-gain ramps up really hard after a while, so there's no way you can sustain it for long

[harsh urchin]

So you cant really stop it from capping

It makes more sense on a completely non peril build

And just get 22% cdr

For perma uptime

[potent echo]

crit purg is kind of busted

[harsh urchin]

22% will reduce cd to 23 seconds so you only need 13 seconds of uptime

[cyan notch]

how so

[potent echo]

free ghost

you just stand still and flame shotgunners and gunners and reapers

[glossy bough]

Oh god, yeah that would work

[potent echo]

also damage goes brrrr i dont even need to swap to melee

[cyan notch]

what is ghost

[potent echo]

dogs die trappers die

[harsh urchin]

Crits make u dodge

[potent echo]

psyker has a new node that gives you invul to ranged damage for 1sec on crit

purg hits so often and with nexus and crit nodes you basically are invul to ranged

i add on scrier because im trying it out but with that you can also melt entire mauler patrols

[harsh urchin]

I'm a little bit doubtful cuz purg has never really had issues with ranged anyways

And it melts mauler patrols baseline

[potent echo]

they buffed mauler hp now tho

so you get back to baseline

scrier probably not optimal, but its fun for now

[south canopy]

Assail is decent

I can absolutely see it getting nerfed soon

[potent echo]

assail is... ok

[bold patrol]

Purg has terrible range

[potent echo]

same issue as surge, its bad during high pressure situations

when theres a trapper in a horde and you just throwing knives you dont really kill anything

[harsh urchin]

Umm

[potent echo]

its good for killing shooters

[harsh urchin]

You can aim it you know

[potent echo]

yea

[harsh urchin]

And trappers are like

[potent echo]

but i can just brain burst

[harsh urchin]

Ignore worthy

Because they don't actually do anything

[potent echo]

i seen enough psykers throwing their little knvies and not killing anything

[eager gorge]

So, what's the verdict on Push versus shield?

[potent echo]

i used it twice and its nice during ambient, but bad during horde+anything

[bold patrol]

I like push

[eager gorge]

I've not played a lot of Psyker, out of the 3 at the very bottom of your choices--

Warp Siphon, Empowered, and Disrupt Destiny, what's the vibes rn?

[harsh urchin]

Why dont you try em

[bold patrol]

Depends on your build

[harsh urchin]

Instead of listening to random scrubs here on discord who might suck

[eager gorge]

Well, I'm asking opinions, etc because the opinions have been wild depending on who I ask.

So I'm consolidating opinions/info.

[cyan notch]

u can just decide for urself

[bold patrol]

Yeah it comes down mostly to personal prefence and playstyle

[cyan notch]

its only been a couple hours

[bold patrol]

I have been play psyker since beta and I prefer a ranged style, but some people like playing more front line

[mint oracle]

warp siphon seems kinda buggy, testing it w/dome shield in psykhanium and dropping shield with literally any warp charges immediately refunds its whole CD

[steep oriole]

Okay the auto pistol still bangs

But damn the ammo

[fresh reef]

been playing with my rookie friends for the entire patch so far
is Assail as busted as it feels in Uprising/Malice?

[lethal lagoon]

@potent echo Ayo? The knives shred everything that isn't carpace, They demolish groups too. Maybe you specced wrong?

Yes.

I used a t3 to test mods and assial was just dumb. On a t5 I had 150k more damage the next person.

[mint oracle]

yeah this has got to be a bug lmao

[gilded viper]

bruh why psker have a better skill tree to mix and match vs zealot

[true lake]

is crucian roulette blessing any good?

5.5% crit chance for each expended round in chamber

[autumn smelt]

today melk just said
"dueling swords got a buff? cool lemme just"

[lethal lagoon]

@gilded viper This is the Pysker and the Nuke patch, sory brah.

[true lake]

welcome to psyker patch

psykers rule the game now

[gilded viper]

really is making me want to go back to psyker KEKW

played like 3 hours of psyker and went to see how zealot doing and their tree is that most of it is just a straight path

[true lake]

zealots got some pretty good options though

just sadly not as much mix and match

[gilded viper]

yeah this is what getting me, haven't finish put in all my points

[raw oriole]

Do Disrupt Destiny stacks fall off one at a time or all at once?

[true lake]

ogryn doesnt have as much mix and match either when you go into a part of the tree

[untold vault]

Did auric maelstorm clear with revolver - illisi psyker

It's very doable

The voidstrike psyker topped me easily tho

[sand cove]

i know and it sucks

[untold vault]

Plasma gun one trick

Rip

[olive ember]

All at once which is poopy

I tried it and I think it’s nice but it’s a bit hard to upkeep during downtime

[fresh reef]

can we nerf Assail please that'd be cool

[olive ember]

So I swapped over the empowered psiojics like everyone else

[olive ember]

No

[true lake]

no screw you imma magic bee everything to death

[primal aurora]

woooooo, new patch today

[lethal lagoon]

No, screw that, I want all my weapon grinding to be invalidated by an ability you get for turning 30 😠

[true lake]

L

[lethal lagoon]

No but seriously assial is so much fun, finally feel like a psyker

[true lake]

it could probably be nerfed a little bit maybe but meh

[glad viper]

I just... can't stop to.... SSSSMMMIIITE!

[lethal lagoon]

Wait, it's not even 30 you get it at like 7 or something lmao

[fresh reef]

Its upgrades should lock each other out though, imo

that'd be enough of a nerf

[steep oriole]

Man smite is just too good

And the fact that it's in the middle of the tree too

[lethal lagoon]

I love that we can grab all the toughness regen stuff that we had to just pick one of before

[vivid silo]

whats the best dueling sword for psyker?

[fresh reef]

Mk 5

[glad viper]

I just smited an entire horde and they all went pop xD

[primal aurora]

Slaughterer isn't best blessing now?

[spice veldt]

MK IV duellies have the best single-target heavies

[olive ember]

Rn probably mk 4

[spice veldt]

mk iv

mk v

[olive ember]

Voidstrike assail and dueling sword def takes a bit more finesse than what I ran before

Which was brain off illisi

Btw @spice veldt did they buff enemy damage?

[spice veldt]

yeah

[olive ember]

I got hit once and like half my health disappeared

[spice veldt]

gunners deal more damage

bruisers deal way more damage

[glossy bough]

what is going on with this bubble spam?

also, is gun psyker real? What gun are people playing with, if so?

[atomic zephyr]

does the voidstrike staff need warp nexus for the surge blessing? or is the flurry better for just spamming charged shots?

[molten prawn]

You can stack warpcharges to insta reset bubble CD

[glossy bough]

huh

[olive ember]

does it instant reset shield?

ik for the yell it only gives like half back

[molten prawn]

I think it is bugged

7.5 per stack at 6 stacks

[steep oriole]

Also how do people feel about scrier's gaze? I'm finding the forced cool-down from 100% a bit annoying at best and deadly at worst

[molten prawn]

im enjoying gaze

im using duel sword revolver and assail

[steep oriole]

Is the revolver enough to deal with carapace + armoured? Cos assail says it sucks against those

[molten prawn]

one tap crits

[steep oriole]

Glorious

[molten prawn]

or two

[steep oriole]

I might run laspistol then

revolver loads too slowly for me

[molten prawn]

you can usual just rely on assail

[mint oracle]

dropping telekine shield with warp siphon + any amount of warp charges fully refunds its cooldown

[ornate hamlet]

fuck yall's assail, have yet to be in a game with a knife-licker that contributes properly :p

[molten prawn]

I did a 1650 crit on crusher with revolver with psyker

for general damage

non crits like 500

[olive ember]

honestly not sure? would probably need some testing

cuz flurry means you spam balls more but nexus means you have a +20% crit chance

which is fairly sizeable

[lost dome]

Recon lasgun and autogun are alr

[untold vault]

Never used the duelling sword before, but is this workable?

It's melk

[olive ember]

I'd swap rampage for uncanny

[steep oriole]

Honestly it feels like most guns are good for psyker rn

[olive ember]

and then swap groaner/poxwalker with like idk

flak/maniac/carapace

[untold vault]

Is the MK IV usable? I thought that everyone used the MKV

[vivid silo]

just rolled a grey mk iv cleave is useless right?

[lost dome]

I fucking love using the shards to cross map snipers with that aim down YEET throw

[steep oriole]

Feels like psyker and ogryn got the biggest W from this patch and then zealot and vet slightly behind

[olive ember]

Honestly no clue

I just started using the mk 4 today

[untold vault]

Vet was nerfed imo

Not buffed

[vivid silo]

is cleve needed on a mk iv

[olive ember]

Eh not rly they lose their 75% DR but all on all I think they were doin fine

I saw a clip of a vet build that one shot crushers with revolver n all that

[untold vault]

Ammo regen gone to shit too

They lost a lot of things, including their ult being nerfed

[molten prawn]

Vet was wild before

[untold vault]

You can oneshot crushers too on Psyker

[olive ember]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1wUaYdMKK9GkZG/d13379nq5Nn0?invite=cr-MSxncHcsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[lost dome]

Vet commissar skill is kinda meh too

[primal aurora]

How useful is bubble?

[keen harbor]

extremely good

instantly regen toughness for the team

[molten prawn]

shooters are dangerous

just decide they dont get to play

[lethal lagoon]

That's not really useful, everyone has so much toughness regen now.

[untold vault]

Imo psychanium is trash for showcasing builds and capabilities

[primal aurora]

AAAAAAAAAA, they fixed cosmetic bug from beta!!!!!!

[untold vault]

Imo the shield is better if you plan on playing auric

The stun wall generates so much utility

[olive ember]

Nah vet shout overcap is pretty pog

Pretty sure I ate a sniper shot cuz of it

Idk if they nerfed sniper toughness damage

[untold vault]

Psyker dome/shield can negate sniper shields too

And it's on a lower cooldown

[vivid silo]

is this worth consecrating to get the feel for the mk iv i have noticed that mobility has been my main problem so far

[untold vault]

Lasts very long too

Stuns muties

[olive ember]

Psyker shield breaks in 5 seconds if there’s a single gunner around

[lapis bay]

What are the best blessings for stubs? Crucian roulette?

[cyan notch]

mid

[untold vault]

Try standing in a gunner for 5 seconds with vet overcap

[untold vault]

Crucian yeah

[tropic scarab]

Psykers, leave some bodies for the rest of us. Geez.

[lapis bay]

LOL

[ember hornet]

best revolver blessing is hand cannon now

[golden tartan]

I mean, unlike the psyker shield, a player can dodge

So it goes a long way

[fringe meadow]

is the force lightning worth it, tried it for a few games seems okayish

[untold vault]

You can do the same thing with the shield

Dodge out of harm while the shield covers you

[vivid silo]

ok i rolled this up to transcendant

[golden tartan]

Yea but the shield itself cant dodge so it eats a bajillion damage and breaks quickly

[untold vault]

Also the dome takes a fair bit more dmg than the normal shield one

[vivid silo]

dunno if that is a good roll

[golden tartan]

By shield i mean dome in this case

[olive ember]

Not bad all things considered swap out crit chance for a stronger perk and yeah

[hasty skiff]

can smite crit?

[untold vault]

The dome lasted a good 10 seconds or so under a reaper + gunner

[vivid silo]

carapace you think?

[untold vault]

I also really like the utility of stunning muties and dogs sometimes

Idk why it's so inconsistent

Sometimes dogs and poxwalkers bonk into the shield

[foggy comet]

ok this is not working as intended right?

[untold vault]

Other times they walk straight trough

[untold vault]

No

[olive ember]

heard from cab thats aight

[untold vault]

It will get nerfed

[lethal lagoon]

Infinite peril bug and still worse than Assial lmao

[foggy comet]

yea, as soon as i gain a psionic stack, i just stop gaining peril

[warped kernel]

loving these changes, now i need that 2h force sword, force halberd and earnable weapon cosmetics and everything will be good

(force halberd is a dream but i hope)

[olive ember]

@spice veldt reeee how good is this btw, cuz I just got rid of this node to get AB on my force push

[foggy comet]

why dont psykers get force hammers?

[untold vault]

Assail is really good on Maelstrom where they like to throw 10 shotgunners out of nowhere

[warped kernel]

ugh would love a force hammer

[untold vault]

You just rip through them

[foggy comet]

it makes sense lore wise

😦

[warped kernel]

i also think that talent is good derpy, but not necessarily needed

[long wharf]

man, playing a support psyker is so much fun

just finished a T4 maelstrom

absolute insanity

[true lake]

they really need to nerf the whole infinite RMB on smite with empowered psionics lmao

[long wharf]

wouldn't have survived without my bubble shields

[true lake]

i just had my friend do the entire second half of a mission using that the entire time with no peril gen

[untold vault]

They need to nerf assail too

Along with voidstrike

[true lake]

assail is only "broken" due to damage really

[lethal lagoon]

Literally no shot Assail doesn't get nerfed. Enjoy it for now lmao

[true lake]

infinite smite is literally broken

[lethal lagoon]

But without damage, why use it over smite or BB?

Needs just a longer CD or something

[untold vault]

It would still oneshot packs of shotgunners, gunners etc

[long wharf]

actually, I think Assail is in a good place

[true lake]

assail is pretty good imo

[long wharf]

it's not a "kill everything without effort" button

[true lake]

it sucks against anything with armor

its just a really good horde clear

[untold vault]

But it is

[long wharf]

it's decent horde clear, not great

[spice veldt]

assail is absolutely overtuned

[untold vault]

Why do you think Im running revolver psyker

[spice veldt]

autoaim weapon lmao

[untold vault]

70% rending on crit

[true lake]

it turns psyker from a "kill crushers/specials" into "horde management"

[lethal lagoon]

What do you consider "great" horde clear then, Ogryn's nuke?

[long wharf]

Purge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Assial decimates hordes

[untold vault]

Illisi

[true lake]

purgatus wasnt really buffed much or anything like that

[spice veldt]

assail isn't only hordecleat

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't say it was

[long wharf]

entirely wrong

[warped kernel]

i disagree, assail is really good at killing specialists and all non armored elites

[spice veldt]

it will kill the human elites easily

[long wharf]

Purge was majorly buffed

[untold vault]

Assail kills elites, specials and light hordes

[true lake]

assail isnt perfect for horde clear due to the whole ammo thing

[south canopy]

Assail will absolutely destroy anything that doesn't have armor

[warped kernel]

i'd rather it wasn't nerfed but i'd accept if it was

[south canopy]

It's a point and click

[true lake]

but its really good at what it does, i wouldnt call it broken

[untold vault]

It is if it's a mixed horde

[spice veldt]

it's fine if you mix in melees

[untold vault]

Just bust out your illisi

[spice veldt]

because assail has a quick swap timer

[warped kernel]

interesting to see what nerfs they do end up bringing

[true lake]

ok but i rather not get up close to a horde of who knows what with an illisi

easier to chew through most of the fodder then deal with the stragglers

get rid of the basic bitches then you can illisi the leftovers that are actually threats a bit more

[cyan notch]

wtf theres no human elites

theyre zombies

[true lake]

i can guarantee they will nerf how empowered psionics works with smite though

[south canopy]

I hope they buff everything instead

[true lake]

it is actually broken you can just hold the thing forever

[untold vault]

Why not?

Illisi was and still is one of the best melee weapons in the game

[true lake]

tbh i prefer deimos

[keen harbor]

okay, the bubble spam is real

[true lake]

just preference in attack patterns

[keen harbor]

I tried it out in a damnation match

[untold vault]

Here's me completing auric maelstrom with Revolver - Illisi assail

[true lake]

i know illisi is "the meta" or whatever but deimos with slaughtere and deflector is just more my style

and havent had an issue with it yet

[spice veldt]

too bad for the deimos that the mk IV duellies exist now

[untold vault]

Deimos is also meta

[south canopy]

Use whatever is fun tbh

Game's easy

[untold vault]

Deimos + illisi were psyker's best weapons before patch

[true lake]

would try mk iv duel but i dont like the duel specials

[untold vault]

Now the Duelist sword got added

[viral solstice]

let me tell u about a little weapon called

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1wVzaC-iCC5f1t/d1337ewGyF4M?invite=cr-MSwwa0wsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

the devil claw

[celest hedge]

deimos is just the dueling sword with the charge special, so it just feels great

[true lake]

an actual devil claw user?

[spice veldt]

duellies got buffed this patch

[viral solstice]

the deimos is just a bad duelling sword 4 in this patch but it will take a while to filter through

[forest loom]

Does anyone feel smite is really underpowered? In contrast, Assail is the wildest OP shit in the game thus far.

[celest hedge]

dueling sword was pretty much saltz' rapier which is why I used it all the time

[spice veldt]

check the mk IV heavies and compare them to the deimos

[true lake]

imma be honest that devil claw video does make it look interesting, but with this update there are so many options for crushers specifically

[untold vault]

Yeah I guess

But I can absolutely see this getting nerfed

[dense ivy]

Lmao you can get 45 toughness by scrounging points on the final bottom trees and choosing Telekenetic Shield

[spice veldt]

yeah that's my opinion as well

[lusty slate]

whats the most fun build to run

[true lake]

smite does next to no damage but its stun CC is crazy

[viral solstice]

smite is pink tho

which is cool

[untold vault]

And it's not that good in other situations

[true lake]

not all blitz need to do insane damage

[untold vault]

I always feel like crushers were never the issue

[dense ivy]

I don't think this is optimal at all

But it is kinda funny

[forest loom]

Like, I tried running smite, and had another psyker on my team also with it, and we literally both ran our perils all the way up from frying a single scab.

[true lake]

crushers are definitely not the issue anymore

[arctic bloom]

i rather like smite

[untold vault]

It never was before patch either

[celest hedge]

30% quell speed feels insane, I can totally see running a gun being more appealing when you don't need the staff bonus

[true lake]

its mainly enemies that can put you down quick like snipers, bombers, and trappers

[celest hedge]

smite feels like an inbetwee of BB and assail but it doesn't looking appealing to me

[untold vault]

Muties, hounds, flamers, trappers and grenadiers were more important

[flint pawn]

Accidentally got a 0 damage taken match lol

[untold vault]

Grenadiers also got nerfed

[forest loom]

It has the coolest animations, to be sure, but the actual damage potential needs to be much higher. You can't just not be able to kill things in a tide game; even if you're a support class.

[true lake]

they dont seem nerfed?

[snow coral]

What's the revolver blessing that stacks with assail?

[untold vault]

No longer do you get aoe staggered for an hour

[true lake]

they seem just as easy to kill, i guess the flame effect maybe

[untold vault]

in their flames

God I hated that shit

[viral solstice]

right now every blessing does because this is a scuffed as fuck version of the patch

[true lake]

but if anything im glad with that because that stun is ridiculous

[viral solstice]

but you're thinking of hand-cannon

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1wVr7Ws9xDqFc7/d1337tyGlZ8B?invite=cr-MSxaNjYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

but you should be asking about the blessing that stacks with throwing knives

[true lake]

god damn what the hell was that lol

[forest loom]

I'm really dissapointed by smite. Like, man, it does not feel like the vidya version of something that does d3 mortals lol

[true lake]

that rager didnt need to be killed that hard

[hybrid hedge]

scier's gaze with assail is fucking awesome

[untold vault]

Hand cannon

[true lake]

scrier's gaze wasnt as fun as i hoped it would be

it also makes it hard to use assail as often

[hybrid hedge]

Im glad im not the only one, it feels very underwhelming

[celest hedge]

i have to play with gaze

[forest loom]

How?

[true lake]

gaze is definitely more for gun builds

[untold vault]

Get crucian roulette too since you want to use the stub revolver sometimes too

[celest hedge]

i'm really liking the shield even if I have to get used to not being able to panic ult to vent

[untold vault]

Then something like 5% crit chance and whatever other perks

[viral solstice]

man-stopper applies to melee weapons

[untold vault]

I like maniac

[dense ivy]

Disrupt Destiny looks dumb

[hybrid hedge]

it makes sense given that gaze was meant for guns lol

[spice veldt]

stopped men

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1wWo36HYsUZB3d/d13376Tbs4s1?invite=cr-MSxxMU0sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[dense ivy]

It's like Ale

[untold vault]

You can take unarmored

[viral solstice]

[dense ivy]

But worse

[dense ivy]

Did they make it even more OP

lmao

[hybrid hedge]

i havent tried destiny yet, it did seem kinda eh

[spice veldt]

that's manstopper + new brumo

[viral solstice]

thats a bug meme but

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1wWBk9tl6fL6zz/d1337qbG4XE2?invite=cr-MSxnRWwsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[spice veldt]

very balanced as you can see

[viral solstice]

this is actual new brutal momentum

[untold vault]

Im pretty sure that isnt possible on classes that isnt zealot

[celest hedge]

destiny feels very interesting, randomly making an enemy grant 10% toughness on kill is nice and speed is always good

[dense ivy]

So yeah absolutely nothing has changed

Except that shitters will cry

[untold vault]

My BM axe doesnt cleave like that in hordes

On my vet

[viral solstice]

yes thats not brutal momentum

it's manstopper which gives you infinite cleave on crit

on your melee weapon

[untold vault]

zealot crit builds are back bby

[snow coral]

I'll have to see if I have that in my inventory

[dense ivy]

Cool

[viral solstice]

oh wait I need to do the achlys funny

[hybrid hedge]

[viral solstice]

i forgot about this version of the patch lmao

[dense ivy]

Ten outta ten Disrupt Destiny looks like garbagio

Why shouldn't I just stack +60 toughness on my Psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, I misrepresented dueling sword this patch

The increased killing power mingles well with the attack speed and gives it a fairly nice horde clear

[celest hedge]

they really gave us 20 different toughness regen skills this patch

[ornate hamlet]

One-shotting poxwalkers really be bringing it up a notch

[untold vault]

Overall I think this patch was a massive upgrade, theyll need to tweak the balance side a bit but I feel like we finally exited Early Access mode.

[celest hedge]

yep, dueling sword is fast swings with good headshot damage with a pattern that nails the head easily, it's the verm 2 rapier

[dense ivy]

I wish certain trees didn't lock you out

Like left side skills lock you out of right side and vice versa

Very annoying, I don't care about the minor stuff but a choice earlier shouldn't limit your ability to choose 3 levels later too

[untold vault]

some combo's would be broken tho

[dense ivy]

How

[celest hedge]

i'd love to get psykentic's aura on my assial/shield build

but passive 10% ult recharge speed will have to do

[dense ivy]

How is mind in motion going to be gamebreaking

Or Wildfyre

These skills are shiiiit

But kinda funny

You also can't use venting shriek and disrupt destiny together but I'm just not seeing how that would be a problem

[cold wing]

is it just me or is soulblaze still crap

[dense ivy]

Scrier's Gaze is the only real case I can see since that's a damage boost, and the Warp Siphon tree also is a damage boost, but you can still take Warp Rider regardless which is an even bigger damage boost than Warp Siphon

It's still crap yes

[snow coral]

what's the dump stat on the revolver? mobility?

[untold vault]

Yes

[cyan notch]

yea

[dense ivy]

Mobility is the dump stat on everything

[snow coral]

damn

so close

[dense ivy]

Unless you wanna do a run and gun build

[cold wing]

thanks dad, glad you came back from the store

[untold vault]

It's fine

[cold wing]

brain burst seems much safer, more head pops less perils

[untold vault]

I cleared maelstrom with this

[dense ivy]

Arguably critical bonus is also a dump stat since that's still like an extra 12 damage every 20 shots

[cold wing]

also did they increase the perils delay?

[untold vault]

You wont be able to oneshot certain specials in the head

But it's ok

[cold wing]

at 100

[snow coral]

wel in that case, time to have hadron brick the others so I can earn the blessing for that one

[dense ivy]

When are weapons getting uncapped

Where are the Reds

[snow coral]

mostly want to try the broken assail build with that in inventory

[untold vault]

Should have used the 80% resource refund exploit when you could

[dense ivy]

Also Bolter got gutted

Pinning Fire is now a measly 25% bonus damage

[untold vault]

It's still decent on vet tbh

[cold wing]

whats the assail build? i liked scriers assail in the paykhanium

[dense ivy]

Time to hang myself

Watch and learn

[snow coral]

I didn't know about that, but I've got so many mats it's ok

[south canopy]

What's the shield spam build people are running?

[untold vault]

Just take cooldown reduction nodes and the shield

[cold wing]

assail seemed kinda fine

not outstanding

smite was hilarious

[untold vault]

No, assail is absolutely not fine

[snow coral]

I've also got this one, not sure how much that affects reload in terms of total time

[cold wing]

illuminate me

[untold vault]

Inspect it

[full kestrel]

how are you dealing with monstrosities as psyker in new patch

[untold vault]

Autoaim dagger spam that deletes packs of specials