psyker-class

[regal jasper]

I cant wait to be yondo

[vestal fulcrum]

Anything will be working well, again, depends on the target. Surge Smite might see the least appeal, though, because Trauma already topples everything to the floor

[digital narwhal]

True

But Smite does still have that single target version

and with the AOE stun, if it still stops Muties and lets you stun lock Crushers in-place, then it might have a more niche use for Trauma users

of course Trauma still knocks Crushers on their ass

[vestal fulcrum]

We’ll see - im somewhat hopeful it might be a better or at least quicker Brain Burst for close quarters encounters

[digital narwhal]

but sometimes having them stand still is nice

[digital narwhal]

True, yeah

I hope Assail is also useful against Elites n’ Specials

[still hearth]

All I need is for Zealot relic to be great

So I can spam that constantly

Psyker dome? Who needs that when you can use faith

[vestal fulcrum]

Weak elites like Gunners or shotgunners seem like sound targets for Assail, but it might require more than one cast to kill one

[vestal fulcrum]

One could think of it as a panic button or a “fuck off until I can take care of you” option

[still hearth]

Though dome + assail might be fun

[vestal fulcrum]

Might be good for middle event on Ascension Riser

[still hearth]

We need an elevator ride where you have to fight people jumping onto the elevator

[vestal fulcrum]

Where ranged groups frequently pester the players from across the area of middle event

[vestal fulcrum]

Fatshark already did an elevator ride like that, although that was in their first tide game, VT, on a map “River Reik”

But it was a horizontal side-scroller with enemies approaching from one boat to the left, then one to the right, and then both boats at the same time

[still hearth]

Yeah now give us more

Make 15 crushers jump down in the elevator

Then I'll actually consider Surge

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t mind yet another action-packed elevator ride

[whole oxide]

kinda depends on the range, assail could be nice if its range is enough, otherwise probably still BB

[fluid knot]

Assail just seems like the absolute best choice

Across the board with all staves, particularly if it has a modifier that means it only targets elites/specials

[digital narwhal]

First thing I’m doing when the patch drops is going to the Psykanium to test breakpoints with the new Blitz Skills

If Smite can actually one shot a Rager like in the Trailer, then it’ll be a premiere choice imo

It’s gotta have some good breakpoints to make it worth picking

[fluid knot]

It'll be fun labbing stuff and seeing what does what for sure, i doubt any of them could be considered weak

[digital narwhal]

Also, we saw the Psyker launch 4 or so shards before “reloading” Assail.
Reckon Empowered Psionics will count for individual shards, or for the whole “set”?

[fluid knot]

Likely individual i reckon

At least that would make the most sense

[gilded viper]

Man Tuesday afternoon is gonna be a good time

[digital narwhal]

Also, I’m kinda annoyed they’re forcing Warp Charges to be used for “Quicken”

I wanna be able to keep them after using my Combat Ability

[gilded viper]

Quicken is truly the lamest capstone to be spared

[spice veldt]

I can't believe that they decided to make quicken the default behavior of warp charges

[gilded viper]

Here’s to hoping ascendant blaze was spared

[spice veldt]

when basically no one picked it

[vestal fulcrum]

What happened with Ascending Blaze, by the way?

[spice veldt]

there's an icon with a similar image below venting shriek

so it's prob that one

[gilded viper]

Like really, who needs ability recharge that badly on psyker? If it’s that big of a deal to you, you grab psykinetic’s aura

[whole oxide]

it might've been good if you could instantly get back up to 6 charges to fire it again, but, usually quicken would come off cooldown faster than you could regain 6 charges, so, it was functionally pointless

[spice veldt]

and the newer version of warp charges just seems to be bootleg Psyker aura

7.5% CDR per warp charge which is gained on elite/special kill...

...or 15% CDR per elite/special kill straight up

[vestal fulcrum]

This one, I reckon?

[gilded viper]

So warp charges was nerfed?

[spice veldt]

ye

that looks to be AB

[vestal fulcrum]

It very well may be

[severe hemlock]

...as a preacher main...those floating daggers look enticing as hell...

[vestal fulcrum]

I was originally wondering if AB would be tied to Quicken capstone

But it wouldn’t make sense given the cone AoE of AB

[gilded viper]

I do like the crystal look they got

[whole oxide]

in a way warp charges nerfed isn't a bad thing, the reason people hated BB around launch was because the traits put so much emphasis on upkeeping charges, which made people think they should be BB'ing all the time

[severe hemlock]

IF the throwing daggers preachers get have a flame on them....it'll have them beat imo >.>

[gilded viper]

They’re consecrated right? A nice golden aura would be nice.

[spice veldt]

though there may not be a reason to take warp charges over the other two keystones anymore

[severe hemlock]

Anything literally ANYTHING other than jsut normal looking throwing knives

[spice veldt]

depending on how it shapes up once we get our hands on it

it certainly isn't promising based on the info that we currently have

[gilded viper]

The double wall for ignoring ranged units or forward advancing seems so inticing

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, having more frequent AB surely is one. I will miss not having the ability to sneeze all over Tertium to see it burn down in warp flames

[digital narwhal]

There’s no way there’s not a node attached to Empowered Psionics that gives you an extra charge or so, right?

[whole oxide]

wrack n ruin had better have survived, without getting fun-policed

[digital narwhal]

There’s no way they don’t give us nodes that increases the effective economy of Empowered Psionics

[spice veldt]

probably

7.5% chance results in roughly 14 kills on average per empowered psionic

[digital narwhal]

13 iirc

But

[gilded viper]

I do hope psykinetic’s aura survived. I do like the support aura stuff, and I know vets especially love to spam their focus fire

[digital narwhal]

Around that area

Yeah

[spice veldt]

not bad if you can just hordeclear with something and continuously proc it

[digital narwhal]

Same tbh

[spice veldt]

god bless Psyker aura

team wide +15% cdr

[fluid knot]

Wait what

[digital narwhal]

Look at the Warp Siphon Keystone in the Dev Blog

No +damage

[fluid knot]

Well fuck

[digital narwhal]

It’s fucking Quicken

Quicken

[fluid knot]

There better be enough extra output in other nodes to compensate for it then

[digital narwhal]

Maybe we’ll get a node that gives us our damage boost on Warp Charges again?
But

[lyric burrow]

how were warp charges nerfed? just dmg reduction?

[digital narwhal]

It’ll be annoying to use with

base Quicken

[spice veldt]

and it's a worse quicken, being 7.5% instead of the current value

[digital narwhal]

I’m just gonna run Empowered Psionics

[spice veldt]

warp charges don't give dmg anymore

[lyric burrow]

damn

[spice veldt]

they're just CDR, by default at least

[digital narwhal]

I only really used Warp Charges to meet BB Breakpoints

So Empowered Psionics with BB’s +50% damage buff by base

will have to do

[gilded viper]

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?feature=shared

[lyric burrow]

ill have to remember new BPs

[digital narwhal]

Gameplay?

[gilded viper]

Psyker and ogryn gameplay today. Hell yah

[spice veldt]

o shit

[meager plinth]

Damn

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, the power of that keystone will probably heavily rely on what supporting nodes are attached to it

[gilded viper]

The arrows look so good

[digital narwhal]

Assail looks so fucking strong wtf

[lyric burrow]

the arrows are so neat

and smite

[digital narwhal]

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?si=J3Bva1D4IbCO4a2o&t=56

THE SMITE

[lyric burrow]

time to not sleep for 2 days

[digital narwhal]

Warp Unleashed survived.

Small nerf, but

it lives.

[gilded viper]

Praise be

[spice veldt]

surely this will not be op

[digital narwhal]

That + BB

[spice veldt]

surely we won't be able to chain empowered psionics

[whole oxide]

and Charged Up

[lyric burrow]

surely

are we just vet 2 now

[meager plinth]

sure

[spice veldt]

but with nades

also +15% toughness to you and your allies on EP use

SURELY

[digital narwhal]

THE KNIVES

THE FUCKING KNIVES

[lyric burrow]

oh my god we are just vet

[digital narwhal]

MY GOD

[vestal fulcrum]

I'm having a PTSD

Of Vermintide 1 Bolt Staff

[digital narwhal]

Bruh

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?si=u3ffpadb5GAoi5sR&t=138

[vestal fulcrum]

(i.e., weapon that in one of it's middle-stage iterations literally aimbotted your shots onto enemy heads)

[digital narwhal]

Look at this

I's a visual spectacle

[teal needle]

Gonna be nuts with scrier

[spice veldt]

assail also regens relatively quickly even without the free charge from EP

[digital narwhal]

This isn't even with Empowered Psionics

[lyric burrow]

so im guessing that the mind shards and stuff replace BB

im pretty behind on this stuff ive been trying to stay somewhat spoiler free

[spice veldt]

ye

[whole oxide]

lol, look at assail at 6:50

[still hearth]

You'll definitely be able to use assail as almost a primary choice from what it looks like

And Smite hits so many targets

[spice veldt]

and it's an aim assist weapon

[lyric burrow]

looks like the single target wasnt great

on smite

[digital narwhal]

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?si=5CiguvHhZrA-2QMp&t=229

[spice veldt]

0 mechanical skill needed + insane damage output

[gritty terrace]

Smite and Assail look so good

[digital narwhal]

Does the AOE version of Smite not use Peril?

[still hearth]

You can see that the peril rises in game at least

Even without the HUD there's the peril on the edges growing thicker

And the "dangerous peril sound"

[spice veldt]

oh it's probably EP

making the peril cost 0

no wait nvm

[digital narwhal]

EP doesn't give 0 cost to Smite though

[spice veldt]

yeah seems to be 0 peril

[digital narwhal]

That's kinda huge tbh

[spice veldt]

i guess they figured that stuns are whatever in this game

and decided to not make it cost peril

very cool

[lyric burrow]

so old F is 0 peril now?

[still hearth]

It costs peril though??

[whole oxide]

ascendent blaze spotted at 8:50

[gritty terrace]

Eyyy

[still hearth]

Idk why you guys think it doesn't cost peril when it shows it costing peril in two of the clips.

[digital narwhal]

The clip I showed has it cost nothing

[spice veldt]

the peril meter doesn't go up from the two clips I've seen

[digital narwhal]

and EP doesn't provide 0 Peril Cost

so I'm just wondering

[still hearth]

Literally from the timer you linked

It goes up to 30%

Then goes down because of some kill trigger

Or someone linked

Idk

[spice veldt]

at 4 minutes?

[still hearth]

2:15

[digital narwhal]

No it doesn't

[digital narwhal]

Here

[spice veldt]

ah

the initial part has a peril cost

[still hearth]

Yeah go to 2:15

[spice veldt]

but not afterwards

[whole oxide]

surge info at 9:40

[digital narwhal]

Left handed has no Peril
Right handed has Peril

[still hearth]

Tbf

[spice veldt]

and it doesn't prevent peril from passively quelling

interesting

[still hearth]

Those are all flak targets

[whole oxide]

looks like surge does more damage and less CC

[spice veldt]

charges significantly faster

[still hearth]

Yeah no

The Empowered seems to give 0 peril cost on smite

You can see one stack goes away after the channel

[digital narwhal]

Maybe they changed it then?

[still hearth]

Idk, I can't prove it but they clearly lose a charge after the free smite

And both LMB and RMB uses before that cost peril

Yeah each free use takes away a charge

It seems pretty conclusive to me

The fact that you can hold it forever

At 0 peril

That's hilarious

[lyric burrow]

yeah i was wondering about that lol

[digital narwhal]

I hope Smite throws Poxbursters backwards like Surge

[lyric burrow]

arco will you play surge now that its single target damage

[spice veldt]

so they just didn't include the peril cost reduction in the post

[teal needle]

Could be that either the footage or the patch preview are outdated

[spice veldt]

no

because I can run a gun now without any guilt

because of assail just carrying me

[fluid knot]

There was guilt involved with running a gun?

[still hearth]

Why use a ragned weapon anyway

[spice veldt]

warp absorption + assail

[fluid knot]

I didnt get that memo

[still hearth]

Just run assail

[spice veldt]

I don't like to use ammo

i dislike picking up any ammo over a game

[fluid knot]

Eh, i could understand if ammo drops were tight, but they seldom ever are

[spice veldt]

i have 0 trust in my teammates

[fluid knot]

An besides, if they get so, just nick it off the Vet, probably do more good with it

[spice veldt]

my trust in my team is at the very extreme bottom

[cyan notch]

hater

[teal needle]

Gunkers were meta though

[still hearth]

I love the part where they explode themselves

[spice veldt]

yeah i only play vet because of the ammo regen

[still hearth]

Because they don't have the shout

[spice veldt]

if it didn't have that, I'd still be playing psyker

[fluid knot]

Vet might be more interesting to me if shotguns get an ammo boost

[spice veldt]

bolter getting 2 ammo back per elite/special kill 😎 very balanced

[fluid knot]

But yeah, not a whole lot of reason to do it when Psyker exists atm

[cyan notch]

recon should be infinite ammo

[still hearth]

God assail is so good

[spice veldt]

and assail letting psyker dunk on ranged patrols

Assail + warp absorption

[still hearth]

Let me just blrrrrrrr dead

[spice veldt]

aim vaguely in their direction, press LMB, and they're dead

[gritty terrace]

Lol the panic bubble at 100 peril was hilarious

[cyan notch]

psyker is the aim assist class tbh

all the blitzs are aimbot

[spice veldt]

p much

i dislike that very much

and no precision force staff either

[cyan notch]

v

[still hearth]

Smite does pretty bad damage it seems

[spice veldt]

but oh well

[still hearth]

But the fact that it spreads even after you've started the channel

[gritty terrace]

Yeah only precision psykers get is our swords

[spice veldt]

if they're going to give us broken ass tools

[still hearth]

Is pretty crazy

[cyan notch]

v id

[spice veldt]

no precision force staff that does good single-target DPS

and torso priority

and only +30% damage on weakspots

[cyan notch]

boltstaff is pretty high skill ceiling

coulda been great

alas we have void

[gritty terrace]

I feel Bubble purg smite being fun for making retreats into pushes

[teal needle]

I miss shotgun beam staff

[cyan notch]

beam was great too

would be cool to shotgun everything with soulblaze

insane monster damage too

[still hearth]

Assail honestly looks more limited by peril

Than by ammo

[cyan notch]

maybe we get new weapons some time later

[still hearth]

[gritty terrace]

Yeah assail looks fun too ngl all the blitzes look great

[spice veldt]

god bless EP

[still hearth]

It's also 1 ammo back llike every 3s

[spice veldt]

maybe every 1.5s?

still seems relatively quick

and chaining elite kills means that you just get free knives that also regen during that interim

[cyan notch]

the enemies seem like the same old pushovers lol

illisi still looks busted

[whole oxide]

i mean, it looks like Malice

[safe meteor]

I like the blitzes quell animations

Idk it's just satisfying

[lyric burrow]

They supposedly buffed enemies so that might be malice

Wait they had 2 wounds didnt they

[still hearth]

Yeah

[teal needle]

Baddies are pushovers in heresy too

[whole oxide]

maybe that's baseline now with wounds in the trait tree?

[still hearth]

It's also a lot of spawns for Malice

Or maybe I haven't played Malice in long enough lmao

[spice veldt]

heresy or damnation, but it's prob damnation

[cyan notch]

idk if malice has like 9 gunners

[spice veldt]

EP shards https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=405

[still hearth]

Smite doesn't look even half as good as assail tbh

[cyan notch]

jett cosplay but with aimbot

[vestal fulcrum]

Assail is looking completely ridiculous

[spice veldt]

yeah smite is just old surge it seems

[vestal fulcrum]

This is VT1 Bolt staff all over again

[still hearth]

It's better surge at least

Since it keeps bouncing

[winter shard]

Damage is worse though, but surge staff has been changed to be more damage focused with less cc

[still hearth]

Damage is worse

[spice veldt]

yeah the damage is just in the dumpster it seems https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=503

[still hearth]

Looks about right to me

[spice veldt]

casual 13 seconds to kill a flamer

[cyan notch]

why can u just hold it

[wild inlet]

telekine looks awesome tho

[spice veldt]

to encourage bad usage of smite

[still hearth]

Cause empowered ones don't cost peril

[cyan notch]

derpy gonna love it

finally 15 target cap

and u can do no damage to more enemies

@olive ember

[still hearth]

It's going to be real tough to not take empowered

[teal needle]

Empowered for ability spam, probs still gonna want warp unleashed etc for gunkers or staff heavy

[cyan notch]

all this stuff looks pretty busted

im curious about the overall difficulty balance

[whole oxide]

but there will be things you can't take now

[still hearth]

But warp unleashed is on the empowered tree

[undone fossil]

Assail will likely be nerfed for the full release

[olive ember]

wait wat

what happene

is it out

like the info

n shit

[lofty escarp]

https://youtu.be/ThGyX6X2ibM?si=eFdgK-y2JxCjHaLn

[undone fossil]

Gameplay from test builds of the new class stuff is out

[olive ember]

wowowowowowoowooo

fuck

im supposd to be doing my coding assignment

[undone fossil]

Not the full version of the patch

[teal needle]

Oh in that case forget warp charges forever

[undone fossil]

Trees will be different in the live version

[hybrid solstice]

basically the "guilt" was eating ammo to use the shredder without actually having feats to make firing guns better like vet does

[gilded viper]

But truly, what has occurred with Surge staff I should wonder? I guess we’ll just have to wait till tomorrow

[hybrid solstice]

never seen anyone chew a psyker out for running a gun though so it's mostly a self inflicted thing

[gilded viper]

Oh those knives wiping out an entire squad of gunners. Beautiful

Ima be knives mckenzie with a bubble shield

[teal needle]

I only had ammo trouble w shredder in auric maelstrom, regular auricular 5 feel like i have plenty of shredder ammo even without vet aura

[spice veldt]

i just have 0 trust in my team

since i've been in a red ammo game before, even when I was a staff psyker

i did not ever want to run into that situation where i myself was using a gun

[wild inlet]

fewer targets, higher damage

[gilded viper]

Low damage aside, that range and duration on Smite is incredible

[whole oxide]

looks like surge doesn't stun muties any more

[gilded viper]

Some people do just eat up ammo like tic tacs. Good thing I like my staves

[spice veldt]

using assail to hordeclear

[cyan notch]

u should play rumbler ogryn with no vet

[spice veldt]

no thx

[cyan notch]

shoot half ur reserves into 1 horde

then miss 5 trying to hit a sniper

[gilded viper]

Rumbler is still one of my favorite grenades launchers ever, besides tf2’s Cold War and the Reach one

[lyric burrow]

So what does EP actually do

I am very in and out trying to keep up with everything lol

[gilded viper]

I think ep is the one that buffs your psyker blitzs

[spice veldt]

basically, free blitz with bonus damage

[old oyster]

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=137 welcome to star wars

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-power-star-wars-gif-16503984

[lyric burrow]

Ok ty

[gilded viper]

I really want more campy as hell voice lines for psykers. DoW1 spoiled me

[lyric burrow]

So far assail looks far better than smite esp since psyker already has really good horde clear

[analog agate]

Looks like surge now does actual dmg

[lyric burrow]

Even with ab being different

[lofty escarp]

WITNESS YOUR DOOOOM

Please bring this back FS it was great

[spice veldt]

assail is the hordeclear

[indigo portal]

Stack Brain Rupture addons and Overpowering Souls and you'll be able to chain absurdly fast BR's back to back against elites as long as you can keep 1 shotting them.

[lyric burrow]

So does it run out of charges? Looked pretty much infinite in the clips

[spice veldt]

the ammo regens over time

[indigo portal]

Assail has ammo that regens.

[spice veldt]

seems like every 2 seconds

[gilded viper]

Caps at 10 it looks like

[indigo portal]

Saw it go to 15.

[spice veldt]

mmmm a node for it

[lyric burrow]

That seems quite strong

[spice veldt]

very nice

[gilded viper]

Ah, maybe some talents change it

[lyric burrow]

Esp if we get free use on elite kill

With the perk or node arco posted a while back

[indigo portal]

Oh it's 10, I was wrong.

[spice veldt]

in case you didn't see it https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=411

[indigo portal]

I think the throwing knives cap at 15 or something.

[spice veldt]

ethereal shards

HORDECLEAR ASSAIL IS REAL

[lyric burrow]

Yeah wow that does look infinite

[spice oar]

venting shreik can deal dmg now holy shit

[lyric burrow]

With all that going

[spice oar]

force earthquake

[gilded viper]

Oh force push does damage now?

[plucky flax]

Is my class op?

[lyric burrow]

Granted that was a billion elites but still

[lyric burrow]

Always was

[plucky flax]

[spice oar]

one of the modifiers gives it 100-200 dmg based on peril

[gilded viper]

On top of ascendant blaze confirmed!

[spice oar]

nah

one of the 2

[gilded viper]

Oh milky said it was still around

[plucky flax]

Never been as op as vet in current game version.

[spice oar]

cant have both

[lyric burrow]

Oh for sure

[gilded viper]

Man, we need more loadout slots

[lyric burrow]

Vet dummy

[spice oar]

they are but you cant have both augments active

[lyric burrow]

True

[gilded viper]

Gotcha

[plucky flax]

I hope vet autopistols and bolters abusers will cry and quit game.

[gilded viper]

Patch 14 here with 3 new loadout slots pls and thanks

[lyric burrow]

Wait so you choose between damaging push or AB

Better be a really good push lol

[whole oxide]

wait

[spice veldt]

assail abusers here we come

[still hearth]

Try some mods

[whole oxide]

so with EP and Kinetic Resonance, BB has negative cast-time

[spice veldt]

multiplicative prob

[plucky flax]

Idk the chain lightning is free surge cc.

[spice veldt]

that's how kinetic barrage currently stacks if you use a mod that gives you instant ult refreshes

[digital narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-crying-one-piece-the-one-piece-is-real-crying-meme-gif-4518068471625710025

[lyric burrow]

Surge cc with horde clear

[gilded viper]

I know how to mod, and I use a number of qol mods in vt2 as well, It just takes more time in dt to do all that. Steam mod support when?

[hybrid solstice]

whats the base damage on brain rupture again

[teal needle]

Gonna have to try assail and smite each out to know for sure

[lyric burrow]

Assail looks way better atm but yeah we cant test obv

[gilded viper]

+50% of current damage

[spice oar]

has anybody been shown using scriers gaze?

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message

[hybrid solstice]

what was current brainburst damage again

[whole oxide]

Ascendant Blaze based off peril not charges now

[hybrid solstice]

i forgor

[olive ember]

It feels great to be proven right

[spice veldt]

1100 base dmg

[hybrid solstice]

oh okay

[gilded viper]

No idea am dumb

[digital narwhal]

@fading galleon Can you give us any details on if maybe any of the Psyker Staves are getting buffed?

[plucky flax]

What's the time stamp for the assail thingy horde clear? Isn't that a single target specials sniping blitz?

[teal needle]

Yeah is voidstrike still a tickle stick?

[spice oar]

i think that vedio shows a new penance???

[lyric burrow]

We know surge is different

Since smite replaced it basically

[spice oar]

do we have warp unleashed?

[lyric burrow]

Yes

Slightly nerfed

[spice oar]

fuck yes

[lyric burrow]

20% now iirc

[olive ember]

@spice veldt can pox hounds be one shot with BB now?

[spice oar]

ah i meant the penance warp unleashed

[lyric burrow]

Oh lol

[spice veldt]

idk

[digital narwhal]

Yeah, Surge looks like a single target fuck you, but still... maybe the other Staves got something too?

[teal needle]

Surge seemed to have a larger target cap, not sure if the damage is still terrible

Although maybe my eyes are bad lol

[spice veldt]

there's this minor clip but there's a buffed evis zealot working away at it and it's a small group https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=364

[gilded viper]

Ok milky uses surge in the vid and comments on it. Big deeps

[plucky flax]

Hrm does look like it 1 shot poxwalker at least.

[gilded viper]

Smite is for cc then and surge is damage

[spice veldt]

there's also a node that seems to give Assail cleave

[plucky flax]

Alright the 2nd clip with him killing a bunch of dreg gunners is op.

[spice oar]

oh nah psyker looks so fucking cool

[spice veldt]

and look at all the mechanical skill that went into it

also

warp absorption + assail

[gilded viper]

Oh yah the knives just slaughter those gunners lmao

[teal needle]

I'm legit excited to have good anti shooter options as psyker besides gunker

[fading galleon]

I have no idea

[gilded viper]

I might actually use surge know

[plucky flax]

You just left click and kill elites/specials.

[gilded viper]

Is nice

[olive ember]

holy shit

holy fucking shit

[spice oar]

if surge turns into a beam staff or smthn ill be happy

[olive ember]

single target damage staff

holy shit

[gilded viper]

Surge buff

THE SURGE STAFF IS REAL!!!

[weary palm]

surge good ?

[spice oar]

single target staff exists

[olive ember]

holy shit @spice veldt

[teal needle]

Oh okay so it's lower target cap on surge and real damage. My question is, do you actually get to pick surge targets then

[olive ember]

you are goign to be a surge main now

and you are going to like it

[gilded viper]

A SINGLE TARGET STAFF FOR PSYKER!! PRAISE THE BIG DADDY E

[olive ember]

[teal needle]

Or is it still impossible to aim over hordes

[spice veldt]

no

because there's a better staff

[olive ember]

and which staff is that

if not the single target damage staff

[spice veldt]

i wonder which one

(it's not trauma)

[gilded viper]

Void?

[lapis bay]

Voidstrike

[olive ember]

how were the staffs rebalanced

[gilded viper]

I hope void got some changes tbh

[olive ember]

actually

like in general

[spice veldt]

where are the psyker playtesters at

[mellow gorge]

The trauma staff stays on I don't have any good other ones

[digital narwhal]

Btw, where'd ya see this info?

[spice veldt]

iz from jtclive's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThGyX6X2ibM

[indigo portal]

Yooo, Surge staff is a single target staff now.

[digital narwhal]

Cheers

[indigo portal]

Psyker finally has a staff to use for single target, no more CC only.

[spice oar]

btw those new buff screen effects? chefs kiss

[teal needle]

Wish i weren't at work so i could check how surge targeting works now

[spark fractal]

Just smite the hordes and wait 15 seconds until there’s no more horde (or shorter if your teammates want to pitch in)

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDMoqhOZqI&t=591

holy shit

surge staff deletes the mutant

9:53

[gilded viper]

Alright so, Illisi, Surge and knives with bubble

Build’s done

[olive ember]

bruh

how could you steal my build

[gilded viper]

Can’t steal perfection, we’re just two peas in a pod

[lyric burrow]

Surge smite could be very fun lol

[teal needle]

I'm tempted to do trauma knives deimos drop shields

[gilded viper]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[teal needle]

Surge smite shields sounds good too

[spark fractal]

And just like Palpatine it takes forever to actually kill anyone with lightning

[lyric burrow]

What was the smaller wall i saw in the fs trailer

[spark fractal]

But it does taser the shit out of them

[lyric burrow]

Not the bubble

[gilded viper]

That why surge deleted muties now 🙂

[lyric burrow]

They made like 2 mini walls

[spark fractal]

Base version of the bubble I think, the bubble is an additional keystone node

[lyric burrow]

Ah makes sense

[gilded viper]

I believe the choice is between big wall, 2 smaller walls, or bubble

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDMoqhOZqI&t=591

speak again

[gilded viper]

Honestly 2 walls might be better than bubble

[olive ember]

im prob gonna do two walls tbh

unless they somehow make shit fucking materialize behind you again

[spark fractal]

It’s less back coverage but it’s more versatile, I like the choice

[gilded viper]

Yah especially if you can run the stagger on the double wall

Can help with horde

[spark fractal]

I feel like knives and smite are so good at that now you really don’t need the help vs hordes anymore

[teal needle]

I hope stagger wall stops pouncing hounds

[hoary badge]

Telkine Knoives brings me back to OG Bolt Staff

[spark fractal]

Or wall up, stop all incoming bursters, that’ll be sweet

[hoary badge]

https://youtu.be/pSgFd00q0uM?si=3t4OYnnu_H0I2pu8

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-23356423

[gilded viper]

Well the wall also staggers elites, I’m not sure if the knives will do anything

[gilded viper]

That new necromancer staff sounds like it will work similarly

[hoary badge]

did they reveal more about how it works?

[spark fractal]

I’m debating between smite/illisi/shredder/wall or knives/illisi/revolver/wall, having that non-perils weapon as a backup is important imo

[lyric burrow]

So can we just freely swap nodes and shit

[spice veldt]

ye, no cost

[lyric burrow]

Ik we cant have everything at once

[gilded viper]

They showed off what weapons Necromancer can use, and they mentioned how the staff basically seeks out targets, like chaining together and stuff

[lyric burrow]

Ok cool

[gilded viper]

30 points to work with and only 5 loadout slots

[spark fractal]

So can necro animate a dead enemy to be a pet or what?

[spark fractal]

There’s a mod for like 12 load out slots

[spice veldt]

you only need 4 slots to experience everything tho, with the other slots being just cuz and for stuff that you can't edit on existing characters

[hoary badge]

can't imagine a necromancer's staff to be this level of map wide control though

[gilded viper]

They summon like 5 skeles or something, no gameplay yet

[dawn wolf]

I want a long las, knives, and scrier gaze so I can be a cooler veteran

[wild inlet]

is there a way to tell how much health the shield has?

[hoary badge]

death magic is usually themed as slow, creeping and whatnot

[gilded viper]

I know, I just never liked relying on mods for qol as simple as, more loadouts, especially since stuff breaks every patch

[spark fractal]

Brain burst / illisi / shredder / 6 stacks of damage buff from warp charges / scryer is already a lot more damage than vet, but it’s going to be so fragile

[hoary badge]

I can see them spawning the death orbs like in the shyish weaves though

[gilded viper]

We’ll see, release date is 2 week from now, and with patch 13 live tomorrow, we’ll likely be seeing some Sienna stuff soon

[dawn wolf]

Glass cannon powering mah lazer

[spark fractal]

Introducing pets into tides games is going to be interesting, if it works out maybe we can get commissar classes summoning waves of disposable guardsmen, or tech priests summoning servitors

[gilded viper]

I hope if we get a tech adept we’ll see Dark Mechanicum enemies as well

[dawn wolf]

Yes to both

[spark fractal]

We have a chaos spawn and a beast of Nurgle, why not a maulerfiend

[gilded viper]

I was thinking a “hive” servitor that spawns servo skulls that explode

Give us them tech mutants

[hot epoch]

HMM

[spice oar]

ig its a cc ability, but i wonder how far dmg wise i can push the bio lightning

[hot epoch]

kiiinda considering transfering soulfire to the second blade

[spice oar]

grouped with scriers gaze it should be good

[gilded viper]

As long as you’re not spending resources. Who knows what this balance update is gonna do to various weapons and blessings

[hot epoch]

Resources i have more than enough of, but its a good reminder that i should stock up on gear, thanks

[spice oar]

we allready have a surge rework

meaning many blessings thatd be previously acceptable/unacceptable have changed in viability

[still hearth]

Psyker dome looking pretty crazy ngl

[olive ember]

but surge staff

THINK OF THE SURGE STAFF

[gilded viper]

Well tbf, a surge rework was expected with the introduction of smite.
Not sure about anything else

[olive ember]

OMG ITS ACTUALLY USEFUL

WOOOOo

[still hearth]

Ehh

[gilded viper]

Psyker actually got a single target damage staff like damn

[still hearth]

Is it though

[left hare]

knives giving me bolt staff vibes

[olive ember]

how dare you @still hearth

did you not see it delete mutant

[gilded viper]

I mean psyker has never had an issue with horde clear, I like a single target stave personally

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDMoqhOZqI&t=591

[left hare]

I want special sniper stave

[still hearth]

They had before Illisi rolled around lmao

[olive ember]

ignore the fact that it procc'ed BB

[olive ember]

not rly? bm antax and obscures worked well enough

[still hearth]

Ehh

They aren't even comparable

[olive ember]

I mean no shit they weren't broke like the fucking psword

[gilded viper]

I mean the knives can be aimed at enemies, and their armor damage seems good at least to flak

I do agree tho, I love bolt staff

[left hare]

I never left bolt staff once i got a good red one

Knives making me very happy

[wild inlet]

the animation on the shards is top tier

[teal needle]

Psyker with assail gonna be the new waystalker

[gilded viper]

Oh the way the crystals sing across the battlefield is amazing

[teal needle]

Lymberfoooooooots

[left hare]

whats assail

[gilded viper]

Knives

[wild inlet]

like, it's exactly what I dreamed of what psykinetic daggers would do

[left hare]

ah

[dawn wolf]

Magic darts

[left hare]

i'm about to kill every gunner i can see

[wild inlet]

we would 100% be so extra to have them dance around unnecessarily to do damage

[left hare]

and yell lumberfoot

[wild inlet]

we're going to have to whistle into voice comms

[teal needle]

Nothing personnel, mayflies

[left hare]

The palpatine lightning looks hilarious tho

perma stagger?

[gilded viper]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[left hare]

lolw

[analog agate]

I am now interested how they are rebalancing the game for these.

[gilded viper]

⚡ ⚡

[teal needle]

Supposedly enemies are tankier but they don't really look that way

[summer prairie]

Pretty annoying warp siphon always makes you consume warp charges on ult

[gilded viper]

I think it’s basically confirmed at this point, all enemies are getting a health boost

[analog agate]

Yeah, that is what I was seeing. A lot of those videos were on damn

[left hare]

That's fine by me

Hand me those knives

[spice veldt]

yeah worse quicken is the default behavior for warp charges which is very eh

[analog agate]

I guess we will see if these videos were on old build or new buffed enemy build.

[gilded viper]

Indeed. Milk said it was an outdated build, so who knows

[summer prairie]

At least the new AB is peril based, but I wonder if the range is worse

[gilded viper]

It’d be weird to nerf AB in my opinion, not really op to begin with.

[summer prairie]

Well maybe it's worse now due to the enemy hp changes, but the new version is pretty much guaranteed 6 stacks

And you can get more cdr

[spice oar]

nobody showing of scriers gaze

bio smite is bad ass though

[still hearth]

Cause its literally just damage

[spice oar]

but its so cool

[gilded viper]

Gunker really be that unpopular

[still hearth]

Its just press button do damage

[gilded viper]

Idk, vet’s got quite a few mains

[spice oar]

its like sharpshooter

but cool

and i love precogniton divination magic shit

[gilded viper]

Diviner wizard with potent is the funniest shit. Fuck you bbeg, you rolled a 1 cause I said so

[spice oar]

playing one in an fps though? makes me feel incomparable

[gilded viper]

Basically the titanfall smart pistol

[spice oar]

eh

not really, cause you still gotta aim here lmao

[summer prairie]

Is there anything decent for soulblaze builds

Like specifically

[spice oar]

venting shriek and theres this one node that makes it so every time you kill an elite or special it erupts with soulblaze to everybody

4 stacks each

[harsh urchin]

Its hard to say right now

[summer prairie]

For every kill instead of just BB, decent

[harsh urchin]

Because we cant see the rest of the changes

4 stacks of SB can be really good or completely useless

[gilded viper]

We’ll see if there’s any flame synergy beyond what is essentially the current fire psyker build

[harsh urchin]

Depending on the rest of the kit

[spice oar]

now im wondering if there are different voice lines for shield and gaze if high/low peril like with shriek

[viscid matrix]

https://youtu.be/ThGyX6X2ibM

check out the psyker section, it has all the upgrade nodes for the abilities

[whole oxide]

no WnR, uninstalling

[gilded viper]

Also keep in mind siblings! Wall doesn’t quell peril! You’ll blow yourself up if careless!

[still hearth]

Okay bye

[gilded viper]

Like scream might still be the only quelling ult

[still hearth]

It is.

[viscid matrix]

we still have our flaming psykinetic wrath yay

[gilded viper]

Is it? I haven’t seen anything about the new shooty ult

[summer prairie]

empowered psionics just seems way better than the other two, though I haven't seen all the nodes in those trees

[spice oar]

what even is WnR? whats he pissing himself for

[still hearth]

It literally COSTS peril to use??

[viscid matrix]

no, but it doesnt quell either

[gilded viper]

Oh it does? Lol. Can tell I pay attention.

[still hearth]

It does

Wtf

Scrier costs peril each second

That's the whole thing

[viscid matrix]

ohh it does yeh

[whole oxide]

/facepalm

[dawn wolf]

"Gain peril until 100%"

[summer prairie]

I wonder what the charge time is like with empowered psionics BB and kinetic resonance

[still hearth]

Idk if the shield costs peril though

[spice oar]

dont hit me with the reddit /facepalm

[digital narwhal]

Scrier's will have synergy with Warp Unleashed, or whatever it's called now

[gilded viper]

No but it doesn’t quell either

[digital narwhal]

We know Warp Unleashed survived, but it got a 5% nerf, and has a new name

[still hearth]

Yeah that's fine.

[digital narwhal]

Yo that's pretty huge

Endurance and Reality Anchor...

Hmmm

[still hearth]

Scrier giving +20% movespeed

Jesus

[viscid matrix]

warp siphon has the damage and soulblaze

[still hearth]

Psyker's are gonna slide off maps

[gilded viper]

Damn precognition looks good tho

[spice oar]

i just love the fact it never ends if you dont reach 100%

stacking warp resist

[viscid matrix]

3 stacks is huge

[digital narwhal]

Precog on it's way to be busted with the new Brutal Momentum

[still hearth]

From what it looked like it increases in peril gain over time

[digital narwhal]

3 CHARGES AND A GUARANTEED CHARGE ON ELITE KILL

WE ARE SO BACK

[still hearth]

Assail will be broken

[gilded viper]

That toughness regen one could be good on a support psyker

[digital narwhal]

Also, 15% Toughness when using your Blitz, if using all 3, will give you mega Toughness regen with Assail

[spice oar]

where theres a will theres a way

[digital narwhal]

Did Warp Absorption survive?

[viscid matrix]

Gunker Represent

[spice oar]

streamers using gaze fuck yeah

[spice oar]

thats cool af too yeah

[harsh urchin]

doubtful lol

[gilded viper]

Yes, new name and a 5% nerf

[harsh urchin]

the numbers on it look very rough

[digital narwhal]

SOULSTEALER + PSYCHIC LEECHING

NEVER DIE BUILD

[harsh urchin]

i think aoe stun or BB will still be better

[spice veldt]

https://youtu.be/5YDMoqhOZqI?t=414

[wild inlet]

For the Disrupt Destiny marking, does the psyker have to be the one that kills them?

[summer prairie]

so you can get both essence harvest and warp absorption

[still hearth]

The numbers are a lie

It does so much damage on headshots

[harsh urchin]

100 or 150 is simply...

[still hearth]

It's more like 600-800 on headshots

[spice veldt]

a single shard can hit multiple enemies btw

if you take the node for it

[spice oar]

and do not discount the buffs you get

[spice veldt]

and with a massive crit bonus

[harsh urchin]

it's homing so how do you make it headshot consistently?

[digital narwhal]

Where did ya see that btw?

[spice veldt]

it's not consistent, but it's not just 100-150

[spice veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOh9-iJrsYc

[digital narwhal]

jtcLIVE video?

ohhh

[gilded viper]

You don’t probably, but you can manually aim it and it headshots

[spice oar]

sure bb will always deal more overkill dmg but doing just the right amount is better overall with assail

[viral solstice]

aside from 4 stacks of soulblaze on elite kill free and wildfire free?

[harsh urchin]

will have to wait til thursday and see-

[gilded viper]

I hope brain burst hasn’t been left to die, still easily the safest option tho.

[whole oxide]

????!!!

[still hearth]

You mean Wednesday

[spice oar]

@viscid matrix the jinxed streamer is playing gunker

[viral solstice]

ok not free thats a lie but u can get it very easily

[harsh urchin]

yar

[gilded viper]

Tomorrow

[whole oxide]

is that linked somewhere?

[viral solstice]

u should see it in the tree being shown off

[spice veldt]

soulblaze on elite kill is the 2nd node to the left from the start

and right behind soulstealer/warp absorption

[still hearth]

They actually made a better Wrack and Ruin

[gilded viper]

Ohh, on kill not on bb. That’s hot!!!

[summer prairie]

ok so you can get AB+sb on elite/special kills+wildfire pretty easily and don't have to bother with warp charges

Decent

[viral solstice]

I wonder if it's balanced

yeah it's not at all

don't expect that one to last long

[harsh urchin]

this could be really good or completely useless; depending on the state of power and dmg boosts on the tree/blessings

[viral solstice]

as a note: 8 soulblaze stacks one shots a scab rager

[forest iris]

Is there some source for all of the skins of commodores vestures? I maybe want to buy the Sanctioned Psyker Hallor Henghist, but I dont know if I should wait for something cooler.

[still hearth]

Ah yeah

[viral solstice]

i wonder if this node is a good idea

[still hearth]

Soulblaze

[viral solstice]

[viscid matrix]

this just works with the Scriers build

[still hearth]

Depends on damage boosts

[spice veldt]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[still hearth]

Good one

[viral solstice]

it's completely broken, and obviously so

[harsh urchin]

you might still be capped at 4

[viral solstice]

you are not capped

[harsh urchin]

just like how current spread works

[viral solstice]

[harsh urchin]

wildfire is currently capped based on your weapon

[spice oar]

tank psyker is real

[gilded viper]

It doesn’t mention a cap like wrack n ruin

[whole oxide]

but WnR isn't Wildfire

[indigo portal]

It's concerning hearing multiple playtesters go "yeah this shit is super overpowered" lol. Not to mention that the stuff we're seeing is overpowered.

[spice veldt]

perilous combustion is the new iteration of wrack & ruin, not wildfire

[viscid matrix]

take this as well, so perma generating toughness

[viral solstice]

the preview build is old

[harsh urchin]

can w&r go over 4?

[summer prairie]

people insisted that WnR should work on any kill and surprise surprise it's busted now that they did that

[spice veldt]

w&r has a stack cap of 31

[gilded viper]

No

[whole oxide]

it has the highest burning cap available to psyker

[still hearth]

I mean its busted because you can take it and 29 other talents

[indigo portal]

Oh, are you guys saying "this version of it is overpowered, it won't be like this during the live release" or something like that?

[spice oar]

also on top of disrupt destiny we will be sprinting like hell

[summer prairie]

well yeah

[viral solstice]

aint sayin nothin

[spice oar]

and ive got like, 3 maxed out sprint speed relics

[viral solstice]

all i can talk about is stuff in preview build

[gilded viper]

We can’t say anything is op until we actually get our hands on it

[indigo portal]

That's it I'm going to CrabHut for dinner

[whole oxide]

yeah, WnR just on kill with no requirement to use blitz is pretty insane

[harsh urchin]

I thought w&r was also capped, is it not?

[viscid matrix]

does this mean we just regen toughness?

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[spice veldt]

w&r is capped at 31 stacks

[indigo portal]

Wildfire is the one that is capped.

[harsh urchin]

ah

[still hearth]

It was just

Completely impractical

To get that many stacks

[summer prairie]

did wildfire get changed at all

[plucky perch]

the new smite blitz seems to have the same role as old surge staff but even worse damage.. think its damage was buffed past the old old preview build?

[spice veldt]

so the two downsides of competing with warp unleashed and being attached to brainburst have just been completely removed

god bless

[gilded viper]

I think it makes the passive regen faster upon activation, ie not get shot for so long a period

[indigo portal]

Tbf I'm way more interested in the stupidly overpowered shit that is the like, free back to back nigh instant charge time buffed Brain Ruptures against elites.

[whole oxide]

you didn't need to get 31 though, 8 is enough to kill most things

[viscid matrix]

its a aura bonus, so its always active

[indigo portal]

I can already tell BR is gonna be nuts with a proper build.

[spice veldt]

prob to referring it potentially only affecting coherency regen

[gilded viper]

No i mean when a character’s normal toughness regen from coherency procs

[viral solstice]

oh yeah that preview build has the buffed duelling sword heavies

[gilded viper]

Yummy health

[spice veldt]

+10% and not flat 🥲

presumably additive with health curios

[plucky flax]

10% is 15 so it's okay.

Just free hp.

[gilded viper]

What if it’s added after curios?

[still hearth]

It stuns way more targets and seems to cost no peril if you have the empowered one

So you can just

Stun a group forever

[viscid matrix]

ooo flat toughnesss

[plucky perch]

oooooooohhh

[whole oxide]

duelling swords don't really need buffed heavies tho, they need buffed lights

[plucky perch]

i gotcha thats actualy a decent roll then

[gilded viper]

Has anybody seen Psykinetic’s Aura yet? Is it safe?

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i think smite actually horde clears

[viral solstice]

bug

[still hearth]

Nooo

[lyric burrow]

But no single target

[still hearth]

Crab say it aint so

[viral solstice]

it's more damage and hits more with empowered but it alas does still cost peril...

[viral solstice]

thats what u say until u realise duelling sword 4 heavies do more than deimos stabs

and then u go

[gilded viper]

Damn that’s a heafty nerf

[viral solstice]

"oh fuck"

[viscid matrix]

can also get this

[spice veldt]

they realized that +15% teamwide CDR may not be the most balanced thing

[crude cape]

holy shit

guys

my apartment flooded in NYC last week

[still hearth]

Especially not with the new ults

[whole oxide]

you had my interest, but now you have my attention

[crude cape]

been displaced, haven't been gaming. but my computer was saved

[gilded viper]

Of course they do now. These greenhorns will never know the fun of nearly unlimited ability uptime

[spice veldt]

imagine +15% cdr with zealot's relic ult lmao

[still hearth]

Yeah exactly

[crude cape]

finally looking at some of the update stuff. WOW

[still hearth]

Even 10% is too much lmao

[crude cape]

PSYKERS LOOK SO COOL

[still hearth]

That's 6 seconds off on each proc

[gilded viper]

Correct sibling

[viral solstice]

team cdr is completely broken

[crude cape]

hype train: ACTIVATED

[viral solstice]

so yeah

[still hearth]

Just sit in the invincibility field

And kill things

Have 3 Zealots hugging the DPS Psyker

[gilded viper]

Oh well. I’m more than happy it survived the talent tree rework

[teal needle]

Zealot just holding up a relic and screaming for hours while everyone else kills

[viscid matrix]

ooof you have to pick

[gilded viper]

So it finally lives up to the moniker preacher eyy?

[harsh urchin]

This is still ability haste right? Not raw CDR

[whole oxide]

definitely on elite kill

[harsh urchin]

Aka: same stat as the combat ability regen from curios

[viscid matrix]

nah its just cdr

[spice veldt]

prob referring to the multiplicative stacking of CDR on curios

[harsh urchin]

How can you say that with confidence when you dont know lol

[viscid matrix]

it literally says cooldown reduction

[harsh urchin]

Yeah but its fucking fatshark

[viscid matrix]

fair

[gilded viper]

Gunker vs vet for most obnoxious fps players

[crude cape]

ah, psyk aura getting nerf? lol rip

[harsh urchin]

I dont believe its multiicative, its just logarithmic

[olive ember]

I mean we can test it out but I feel like I'd prefer 2nd one

it means guranteed thing when it matters afterall

[spice veldt]

CDR on curios stacks additively each other; the multiplicative interaction is with psykinetic aura's ult CDR

[gilded viper]

I mean, there will still be plenty of elites in high difficulty to get cooldown off of. It’s for the best

[viscid matrix]

10 rounds of Assail

[crude cape]

ya, not upset, the whole games being rebalanced

[harsh urchin]

dis:

[spice veldt]

where's that formula from?

[crude cape]

do we know yet if there will be any new weapons?
if not,
is there anything in the psyker tree that makes Duelist swords more worth using?

or will illy/deimos be dominant still

[harsh urchin]

right it's additive with each other; but the stat itself is ability haste on CDR on the curios

[gilded viper]

Can it be tomorrow already? Somebody concuss me for 26 hours

[harsh urchin]

whereas the reason psyk aura was multiplicative with it was because it was a % reduction each time it activated?

[spice veldt]

i don't get what you're saying

I recorded and checked the times, and combat ability regen is straight up CDR

[spark fractal]

all weapons were rebalanced, void and surge as well as many melee weapons work completely differently now, might as well be new weapons

[viscid matrix]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxz9LbNloChZqwjbOG8uiAixtyFIIYTiiX

[crude cape]

i love force swords.
but my favorite first weapon were the duelist swords, i would love a good excuse to use them. Even if it was syngergies that werent as strong as other stuff, but something

[spice veldt]

+12% cdr on vet sets your cooldown to 22 seconds from 25 seconds

[lyric burrow]

Really? I only know about surge

[crude cape]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-lmao-scared-gif-27096284

oh shit

[digital narwhal]

That True Aim ability-

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they give psyker the ability to shoot lighting from their butthole when they jump

[harsh urchin]

oh really? during my testing it showed up as haste

[digital narwhal]

it grants a guaranteed crit after landing 5 ranged hits.

[harsh urchin]

wtf

fatshark added cdr as flat cdr into the game again lmao

[digital narwhal]

Blazing Spirit Trauma and Blazing Spirit Voidstrike

You can get a crit each time

[lyric burrow]

Oh

[spark fractal]

Void is now super good at anti carapace and will gib ogryns

[spice veldt]

the problem was that psyk aura used this shorter CDR to calculate how many seconds to shave off

[digital narwhal]

as long as you hit 5 enemies

[lapis bay]

Wish we could have nemesis spears

[zinc phoenix]

Imagine it: you jump and ⚡️

[digital narwhal]

GUARANTEED CRITS ON HITTING 5 ENEMIES

LMAO

[spice veldt]

so instead of 15% * 25 seconds, you'd shave off 15% * 22 seconds of your cooldown

[zinc phoenix]

From your butt

[digital narwhal]

BLAZING SPIRIT IS GENUINELY GONNA BE AWESOME NOW

[zinc phoenix]

Or shit

[lyric burrow]

So everything just seems like

[viscid matrix]

cooldown for assail is so quick wtf

[lyric burrow]

Broken

[harsh urchin]

i'm assuming this is cuz it isn't a passive CDR reduction, but rather a conditional one

so it's taking "CDR time * 0.9" or something

[spice veldt]

you're overcomplicating it

[harsh urchin]

rather than adjusting the base calculation

[digital narwhal]

Blazing Spirit proccing everytime you hit a secondary fire on a Trauma or Voidstrike blast doesn't sound shit to me.
You just gotta hit 5 enemies with each one.

[harsh urchin]

so theoretically this new 10% node should be additive

with curios

[spice veldt]

so 12% CDR makes a 25 second cooldown into 22 seconds

[spark fractal]

Well it looks like it’s only good for killing weak guys and does nothing vs Ogryns, so it’ll need to be quick

[digital narwhal]

Could also use Surge for Voidstrike instead.

[spice veldt]

and psyk aura would shave off 0.15 * 22 = 3.3 seconds off of your ult instead of 0.15 * 25 = 3.75 seconds

[lyric burrow]

Tbf it shredded everything other than ogryns and you get it back easily with maintaining EP

[harsh urchin]

yes, and when you remove 15% cooldown due to aura, the code probably uses the final CDR rather than the base CDR to calculate it

[spice veldt]

mhm

[harsh urchin]

which makes sense

[spice veldt]

no weird haste formula and whatnot

fairly simple

[spark fractal]

Maintaining ep? What’s that?

[harsh urchin]

but if you get 10% cdr as a stat from the tree as a passive

[harsh urchin]

my instinct tells me it'll stack with curios additively

so it'll just give you 22% cdr off the base

[spice veldt]

yeah

[spark fractal]

Oh empowered yeah

[spice veldt]

i was remarking that it would stack multiplicatively with the cdr from psyk aura

[viscid matrix]

yeh looks like you run out before killing a reaper with them

[gilded viper]

Blazing void to look out for then?

[spice veldt]

it is very likely that it'll stack additively with cdr on curios

[harsh urchin]

oh yeah and it stacking multiplicatively makes sense i think

[spark fractal]

12.5% chance to get a stack back per kill and each shard doing punch through kills in a horde is gonna be a lot of empowered

[spice veldt]

but given the existing interaction with psyk aura

[spice oar]

whats the difference with surge?

[spice veldt]

it is reasonable to believe that it would stack multiplicatively with psyk aura

i don't think it's too far-fetched

[lyric burrow]

I think arco posted a node that guarantees it on elite kill

[harsh urchin]

yep

[spark fractal]

2 target max now but DPS based instead of CC

[harsh urchin]

go test it when it comes out

and see i guess

[digital narwhal]

I'd prefer guaranteed charge on Elite tbh

[gilded viper]

Much much less units hit, like 2, big ol damage, melts muties, very little cc

[spice oar]

oh shit i meant void srry