psyker-class

[harsh urchin]

with how the ubi devs handled crafting and item progression in div2, that would be pretty good

[calm sapphire]

div 2?

[harsh urchin]

division 2

tl;dr there's 3 main progression systems for items in that game

you drop different types of guns, with different types of mod slots, base stats, etc; and they roll different damage rolls

then there's RECALIBRATION, where you can extract mods from guns and on each weapon you can modify one stat ONCE

then there's OPTIMIZATION, which is super expensive in terms of mats, but allows you to push stats on your weapon to max.
Example would be if you had a 79/80 weapon, and you could pay a bunch to push it to 80/80

finally there's EXPERTISE, which allows you to gain xp with different weapons/skills/items (encouraging you to try diff builds) and you can get a very small dmg boost to weapons you have mastery on.

it's very streamlined in terms of progression

[fierce crest]

Should I play div2. I've been craving a single player extraction game

[regal jasper]

Div2?

[olive ember]

Div2 is not single player

If you are talking about the division 2

[regal jasper]

What is div2

Oh

[olive ember]

Please don’t the crafting system in DT is already a shitty looter shooter system

Why would you replace it with another looter shooter system

The only thing that makes div 2 crafting bearable is that the game showers you with loot because you know… looter shooter

[haughty scarab]

That's like 18 things to do

[fierce crest]

I mean, compared to like Hunt, or Tarkov

[steel flame]

How about you let me put a reflex scope and a flashlight on every gun any damn time I want and call the "crafting" system done

[indigo portal]

You can already do that with a mod.

[steel flame]

Yeah I know. That's the sad part

It's my favorite mod too

Why was fatshark incapable of doing this?

[indigo portal]

They're probably not gonna implement it as a cosmetic-only as the mod is rn. If they bring back their old rumored attachment system it'll be more than just visual flare. It was probably scrapped, just like the Class Overhaul was, before launch due to time restraints.

[steel flame]

Immeasurably complex my ass

Probably they couldn't find a way to monetize the fuck out of attachments and decided not to add them. That's my only guess

[indigo portal]

I do not believe that quote is referencing the attachment system they scrapped nor is it quoting someone who works at Fatshark anymore.

[indigo portal]

They scrapped the Class Overhaul and I don't see them monetizing it.

It was likely in the same boat as the attachment system.

But they're releasing the Class Overhaul now, and despite what people thought they aren't selling subclasses for real money.

[steel flame]

Well yeah. At this point they would get crucified for doing so

If the higher ups thought they could get away with it they would have

[indigo portal]

So do you think that the reason the Class Overhaul was scrapped was because they couldn't monetize it?

[steel flame]

No I think it was scrapped because they were too busy fixing the base game

[indigo portal]

But both the Class Overhaul and the Attachment system were scrapped before launch. Why wouldn't they be scrapped for the same reason?

[hollow ocean]

How do you get the orange glowy eyes

[indigo portal]

Character creator, I think you get it for just owning Vermintide 2.

[hollow ocean]

Ohh

Shit

[indigo portal]

It's a Sienna cosmetic, all the classes got a cosmetic that relates to a V2 character.

[hollow ocean]

What were the rest

[indigo portal]

A bunch of tattoos, I think you can get full black eyes to match Kerillian. Not sure about the rest though.

[upper galleon]

i thought immeasurably complex was about the cash shop and aquillas

instead of just having $$$ amounts like vt2

[indigo portal]

I think so yeah. iirc was referencing issues with contracts or something, they couldn't just swap it up on the fly.

[meager plinth]

here are the vermintide ones

the orange eyes are absolute bangers

if you pair some of the darker eyes with tats around the eyes, the effect is even more pronounced

[upper galleon]

the right quote you want to be referencing was "this isn't COD"

which is hedge's throwaway line trying to make cover for the devs not having the system done in time

[meager plinth]

rip weapon customization

[indigo portal]

The catalyst lol.

[upper galleon]

honestly hedge doesn't seem that bad of a dude and i wouldn't be surprised if he was handed that line

[indigo portal]

I think it'll make a return, just like the Class Overhaul. It sounds like a really cool idea, would love to see it implemented.

Probably not anytime soon though.

[upper galleon]

with the sheet saying "Oh we didn't finish attachment systems so we aren't implementing them by release, here are some things you can say to the community when they outrage"

[meager plinth]

just seeing what the mod was able to do is perfect

[upper galleon]

ehh, the mod is very bare bones and the mod creator has had to fix a ton manually

[indigo portal]

All that manual fixing is probably why the system was scrapped in the first place. Each offset he makes is another issue with a different part.

[upper galleon]

cause it's much harder for fatshark to make it a fully fledged feature than it is for a modder with free time to do mostly cosmetic stuff

[indigo portal]

On top of all the weird cosmetic issues I cannot imagine that system would be easy to balance lol.

[meager plinth]

yea its barebone but it lets me have flashlights on a lot of weapons that couldnt

[upper galleon]

here is what fatshark would need to do A) How are players gonna earn/unlock attachments B) Balance C) how do you not leave certain weapons and classes with basically nothing (psykers is what I'm thinking)

D) bug fix every fucking combination, even ones that no player in their sane mind would pick

F) how do you make multiple actives on a single weapon make sense for a player who doesn't get info outside the game

i skipped E cause i'm fucking brain damaged don't worry

[meager plinth]

E stands for emperor, it is always there with us even if we dont see it

well the staves are already divided in 2 pieces, the handle and the head

[glacial nest]

I’m still baffled by that line. I bet it was handed to him by someone higher up. If it were a 1 on 1 conversation it probably would have worked by trying to dismiss and make the person feel stupid, but on the internet people don’t walk away

[upper galleon]

E) find the place for attachments in the weapon system. I see it as being between perks and blessings

[indigo portal]

For C I don't think it would end up being an issue. For Psyker you can have Force Swords function the same as normal melee weapons, with staves just have custom hidden variants for each staff that change spells and what stats are available (like swapping the part under the focus to swap Crowd Control for Critical Bonus for example).

[upper galleon]

My idea for psyker staffs is to let players go ham and make their own staffs lightsaber style

[gusty furnace]

I'm fine with customization so long as it doesn't dip into weapon stats.

Holosights and Flashlights are whatever.

But as soon as trigger groups start changing ROF and barrels start changing accuracy, I'm gonna get a little bit miffed

I just don't trust Fatshark to execute it well.

[upper galleon]

pick your payload (force, void, lightning, soulblaze) and pick your delivery method (trauma blast, bolt, chains, or spray)

[gusty furnace]

Battlestate Games has been bumbling around it for nearly 6 years and they're still not good at it.

[indigo portal]

But that's like, the fun part. You can set your own stats for the weapon. Not like +accuracy for this barrel and -handling for this other one, but rather each of the parts determining which 5 stats the weapon comes with.

[upper galleon]

have the base staffs be the best overall, but let players fuck around

I for one want a trauma/surge hybrid that calls down a fucking lightning strike

[meager plinth]

rip lore nerds

they would die if it happens and it would be hilarious

[upper galleon]

i mean, lorewise all weapon modification is allowed as long as it is approved by a techpriest/mechanicus

[meager plinth]

ment the psyker disciplines being mixed together

[upper galleon]

and for psyker spells? warp is literally imagination fueled, their is no canon limits on what one can do with the warp besides how much you can handle without blowing up/getting corrupted

Ohh

[gusty furnace]

Hardly

[upper galleon]

somewhat true

[gusty furnace]

Have you read Gaunts Ghosts

[upper galleon]

i don't read

[gusty furnace]

Mad Larkin with his completely custom scope

[upper galleon]

there is too many 40k books

[gusty furnace]

And custom hotshot packs

[upper galleon]

i'd have to read them in chronological order

[gusty furnace]

the uh

Warhammer 40k universe doesn't really work like that

Its not Star Wars

Almost all the books are self-contained stories

[upper galleon]

i know

I imagine it much like the forgotten realms books

[gusty furnace]

Horus Heresy series is the only one where there's an actual timeline that ties into the greater universe.

Gaunts Ghosts barely touches on the Crusade that's going on in the background.

[upper galleon]

where there are series within and it costs money and i'd hav4e to make a fucking grocery list and hope my library has them

[gusty furnace]

Its just a bunch of stories about Guardsmen being shipped from battlefield to battlfield.

Like, yeah, chronologically they respect each other due to the whole "Self-Contained" aspect

same with many of the Space Marine omnibuses

[upper galleon]

yee

[gusty furnace]

But you hardly need to understand the bigger picture

[upper galleon]

it's still a fucking

like I have that cocktail of mental illness I'm going to have to READ everything

but if I don't start, i don't have to

[gusty furnace]

That sounds awful

😭

[upper galleon]

you have no idea

you know how many books there are on drizzt alone?

39

[gusty furnace]

this is my veteran's milkshop

I don't think I've ever seen this before

what the fuck is this bullshit fatshark

[upper galleon]

better than my 4 dclaw zealot shop I got once

[gusty furnace]

Don't mind me just comparing damage

eh, considering I can get Deathspitter AND Fire Frenzy, it seems like a fine buy

but having garbage stopping power AND stability is pain

[meager plinth]

good placeholder till a better one comes

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, I already have a better one

I'm just kind of greeding upgrades on things that are nearly perfect

[indigo portal]

Oh that's pretty good.

[meager plinth]

100% its the main thing we have left

[gusty furnace]

I guess I could go Savage Sweep/Rampage

and just live with the god awful flak damage

[indigo portal]

What class is that one on?

[gusty furnace]

veteran

[indigo portal]

Rip. Would love one like that on Zealot.

[gusty furnace]

I could always do the funee and go 5% crit chance

and replace viscious slice with rampage

[golden frigate]

crit build opop

[gusty furnace]

This is my zealot dclaw

[languid tusk]

im logging into my zealot to share my dclaw

[indigo portal]

Ah damn. I'm trying to get a VII with +Flak/+Unarmored and Devastating Strike/Shred. Don't have a perfect one yet.

[languid tusk]

here we go

[manic halo]

does surge work on void strike primary fire

[cosmic sigil]

my crit claw

[lyric burrow]

yes afaik

[fluid knot]

Works on both on Void ye

When work on both with Trauma FS? When.

[gusty furnace]

Do you mean the little ball from left clicking?

Or the charge attack from right clicking?

Either way, it works.

[manic halo]

charge attack

[gusty furnace]

Its just the Trauma Staff where it doesn't work on the charge attack.

For. . . reasons

[unreal wasp]

Yeehaw

[upper galleon]

blows my mind, the staff with crit bonus

doesn't have surge

then again, twin stubbers don't get cavalcade so

[cyan notch]

idk what surge with surge would do

the 2nd surge would probably just overwrite the first

and then u get 0.1s of stun uptime from the proc

[upper galleon]

you have 2 separate chains that try to pick different enemies if available, or deal more damage to the enemies you are currently zapping

[cyan notch]

i guess 2 damage is better than 1 damage

[magic hull]

worth getting?

[cyan notch]

100%

[magic hull]

need guide on how to build this

[upper galleon]

you want brutal momentum as a must

and either headtaker or decimator

decimator has a higher top end while headtaker is more consistent

[magic hull]

alright time to farm blessings

i guess the perks should be fine

[gusty furnace]

This would be the "correct" move IMO

Though Surge doubling the hard CC on Surge Staff would be neat

But I'd value killing the enemies you already can CC faster more

[crude cape]

which is better, assuming i put t4 warp flurry on the left one too.
Also i can swap the top perk to whatever, haven't decided what feels best.
is the right one just strictly better even tho low quell and 1 dmg less on secondary atk

[autumn smelt]

im inclined to say the right one, because despite the lower base stats, the stats that are the lowest are the least important, and you can swap that unyielding for crit chance

but im also of the opinion that you should hear someone elses take before just going off of what i say

[crude cape]

i know its not my job, but burn dmg on bosses isn't terrible and i dont hate unyielding.
but i guess flak + crit is just better right?

more universal for sure

[upper galleon]

Crit bad on purhe

Crit chance perk specifically bad on purge

[crude cape]

oh? i've always heard crit good on purge too

[autumn smelt]

but majority of the time youd end up brain bursting unyielding stuff if anything honestly
you typically wont be close enough to reapers, and i personally think its a waste of time on bosses

[upper galleon]

Warp nexus is good

Crit chance is good

[autumn smelt]

literally how

[upper galleon]

But the perk isn't

Because value

[crude cape]

how else you get crit chance lol

[autumn smelt]

nexus

[upper galleon]

5% crit chance won't matter vs any enemy type

[crude cape]

so what perks would you take

[upper galleon]

Warp nexus, the BiS blessing with warp flurry

[crude cape]

i always heard crit chance perk on purg is good too

[upper galleon]

Flak unyielding

[autumn smelt]

i mean, i dont know what else youd put there, any other options would either be too small/rarely used to matter or against stuff youd already fucking nuke

[upper galleon]

Cause it's a misconception

25% perks apply to burn

[crude cape]

i rocked crit + unyielding for a long time w/ no flak tbh

[upper galleon]

While you have the weapon out

And flak helps with wildfire spreading and ascendant blaze and shit

[crude cape]

i dont typically use wildfire tbh

[autumn smelt]

ah thats not something i consider

[crude cape]

warp battery + blaze

[upper galleon]

Basically warp nexus has a large amount of value and doesn't have competition

[autumn smelt]

i never use any of the soulblaze feats tbh

i only use wildfire for my trauma

so i guess i just never consider that

[upper galleon]

Crit chance is only 5% for a chance for 1 additional stack which is uhh not worth it when enemies will either die long before you hit cap

Or enemies that you will hit cap on and still live

[autumn smelt]

ascendant blaze can eat my shorts tbh
i know its good but i just dont like using it

[upper galleon]

Then you prob shouldn't go a purge build but that's a side tangent

Wildfire scales with difficulty like what happened to rumbler ogryn in the meta

When Auric and maelstroms dropped, wildfire gives more overall damage at the downside of missing a breakpoint

I've caught snipers on fire with wildfire (I don't take wrack and ruin, it does not compete with WU which, also increases the dot damage)

[autumn smelt]

i mean when im using my purg staff, its mainly use for enemies that are typically within its range
with wildfire, it would only take effect for a few enemies outside of that reach, who would soon enter that reach and get hit with many more stacks
considering that it only passes off a small amount of stacks that im applying, i find it more impactful to just use another feat

[upper galleon]

Basically 5% chance for +1 stack only from direct purge hits vs 25% damage to a specific enemy type is better

Wildfire is about softening and picking off enemies without input basically

It is ridiculous in dense maps

Basically flak perk let's my wildfire kill scab trash on the 2nd pass through and not 3rd I believe

[autumn smelt]

playing with a soulblaze trauma staff has kinda solidified my opinion on wildfire
its really good when you spam slight charges to get it kickstarted, then swap to melee to start tearing shit up with what little hp they have left with ease
but with the purg staff, why bother when you can just keep blasting away, the last few guys might die a half second sooner

[upper galleon]

5% crit chance is needed on blazing trauma and blazing void tho

[upper galleon]

Because when you are in auric maelstrom it's a lot safer for you to just, keep applying fire and swap to BB sword as needed for elites and specials

Not saying 6 stacks isn't valid

[autumn smelt]

wdym 6 stacks
of warp charge?

[upper galleon]

It's a preference. Do you want consistent breakpoints and killing without relying on peak warp unleashed bonus

[autumn smelt]

i dont think i use that feat with any staff or build

[upper galleon]

Or do you want to climb to most damage and soften everything with wildfire

Feats?

Wildfire is feat, 6 stacks and kinetic flayer is what it competes with

[autumn smelt]

i use flayer for purg and surge, wildfire for trauma, and i dont remember what i actually use for void

[upper galleon]

Kinetic flayer is strictly gun psyker and 6 charges is what some psykers run for a bigger ascendant blaze, and is used in all Kinetic barrage builds

[autumn smelt]

probably flayer cuz i am lazy

also im certain there is target priority for flayer

[upper galleon]

6 charges hits the flamer BP much easier

[autumn smelt]

i cannot tell you how many times ive been flaming a horde, or surging a scab group, and flayer procs on the biggest elite in the group

[upper galleon]

Than with relying on maxing warp unleashed

[autumn smelt]

i swear it has target priority

[upper galleon]

I think it's just, notice bias

You won't notice when it procs on a random schmuck but I could be wrong

I mainly use KF on gunpsyker

[autumn smelt]

i personally notice cuz pop noise make brain happy lmao

doesnt make the targets brain happy tho

[upper galleon]

Yes but the pop is way easier to miss without the elite/special kill noise

But I could be wrong, never seen a that deep of a dive into psyker mechanics

[autumn smelt]

its still enough times for me to keep it on, its saved me from more than a decent number of bad situations

[upper galleon]

But 6 charges + KB pumps some of the best single target in the game and is used typically in Illisi surge builds

I mean, I've had shooters and shit I didn't even know exist pop out just to die to wildfire before they can shoot

[autumn smelt]

plus its a easy way to stay at near max stacks with 0 brain activity
i value the ability to stay always topped off over the potential of 8% more damage if i keep managing a buff

[upper galleon]

It's not hard to manage anymore imo

KB can be used if you somehow run out

And it decays one at a time

Much better than it used to be

https://tenor.com/view/ppf-lol-omg-gif-21502676

[cyan notch]

i can understand the appeal

pain in the ass to micromanage sometimes

probably gonna change soon anyway

[crude trout]

man I keep abusing my dodge button as if I'm using a force sword when playing other classes in melee. I think Im spoiled

[viral solstice]

pensive...

[hollow current]

😰

[true lake]

is rending shockwave any good on trauma staff?

its one of the bugged blessings and i have no idea what it does, it just says something about rend armor on aoe charge

[spice veldt]

gives stacks of brittleness to enemies hit

it's just shattering impact but for trauma

[olive ember]

it's "meta' as in theres nothing that good to take on trauma besides flurry so this is your next best option

it makes your teammates do more damage against armor

but it doesn't actually increase your personal damage iirc

[cyan notch]

focused channeling

[olive ember]

.>

[true lake]

so it might not be a bad blessing to hold on to then

because stacking brittle sounds pretty good if you use the aoe often

[olive ember]

pmuch

theres two ways to build a trauma staff

flurry and blazing crit

[true lake]

most likely going for blazing crit, idk how to really do flurry

and i just really like soulblaze

[olive ember]

flurry + rending shockwave if you wanna spam AOE's, blazing crit to spread fire

[true lake]

might give flurry and rending shockwave a try

[olive ember]

but yeah rending shock is considered good, just not for blazing crit

[true lake]

yeah warp nexus pretty much only option to go with blazing crit

[olive ember]

yeah the feat build for flurry rending shock would be something like 3/2/1/1/1/3 or wte

tho honestly I'm hoping everything is going to change 10/4 so yea

[true lake]

its changing heavily based on the dev blog

[brave turret]

Is it me or is deflection much more peril efficient then stamina

[true lake]

idk, i never really used the talent for using peril for blocking

its probably pretty efficient though

[crude trout]

feats like the Zealot's Benediction (15% reduced toughness damage to allies in coherency) apply to you at all times assuming you're the zealot? or does it only apply when you are in coherency with others

[cyan notch]

it is. its at least 4x as efficient scaling higher with more max stamina

[crude cape]

What builds do you guys like for monstrous specialist modifier? I feel like purgatus is good but I don’t typically take cerebral lacerations with it and feel like you need to if there’s not another psyker with it

[plucky flax]

I use this for monsters modifier

[near wyvern]

Basically anything with cerebral lacerations. I often run nexus spirit void with 313133

[plucky flax]

I value aura over laceration for dealing with specials during monsters appearance.

It's the specials that's dangerous. Not the monsters.

[formal harness]

Nice drip but I cant use it in game lul

that upper body isnt real I guess

[meager plinth]

Holy fuck that goes hard

I want more version of that hat

With rebreathers, different masks, different colors

[ivory heath]

anyone got recommendations for surge staff builds

[meager plinth]

Surge paired with Illisi force sword

sprinkled with kinetic barrage

[plucky flax]

312xx3

[random summit]

Does purg count as ranged for contracts?

[plucky flax]

The burn doesn't. I think the direct damage does if you kill enemies with it.

[random summit]

tyty

[brave turret]

With more max stamina?

[spice veldt]

kinetic deflection is 4x your max stamina, so it scales with however many stamina bars you currently have

[ornate hamlet]

what's a good horde clear weapon for psycker?

[still hearth]

Illisi for melee
Purgatus for ranged

[broken carbon]

is that not a zealot chest piece?

[viral solstice]

knife for melee knife for ranged (this will make sense on october 4th... or will it)

[sterile vale]

It's the zealot chest piece that was made available to everyone accidentally a while back

[still hearth]

I hope it does

[viral solstice]

let me just say that people who love frocks and hate ties are gonna have a GREAT time

(idk what this means but it sounds provocative)

[cyan notch]

lame

[native topaz]

so, I'm bad at Psyker. I mostly play Oggy/Zealot and I have a hard time shifting focus from not wanting to shove my face in the front line, which gets me in trouble a lot with how squishy I am. Any general tips and recommendations specifically on actionable tactics to be actually useful from the backline? The only time I feel even remotely useful is if I have trauma staff. Otherwise I feel like I'm just pissing around and not contributing and getting my ass kicked

[upper galleon]

psyker has to usually juggle their kit around

what level are you may I ask

[spice veldt]

if you're using a force sword, the infinite dodges can be abused for some good survivability and aggressiveness

[acoustic osprey]

best weapon for psyker is mk1 infantry autogun

[native topaz]

30, I'm used to Auric on my Oggy/Zealot

[upper galleon]

ok, so are you planning to run deflector blessing or without it?

[broken carbon]

with an illisi you don’t have to be on the backline

[native topaz]

I've found Deimos to be the power sword I like the most

[native topaz]

I did get lucky and found level 4 deflector

[cyan notch]

its a powerful sword alright

[upper galleon]

ok so you want to go block efficiency + manaic

[plucky flax]

Spam surge staff.

[broken carbon]

erm akshually it’s force sword🤓

[native topaz]

oh lawd I'm so sorry

[native topaz]

that's...kinda what I do and the only way I feel useful lmao

[cyan notch]

stamina is better than block eff

[broken carbon]

but deimos can also be effective with horde clear, just a little less so, it’s best served for obliterating specials and elites with the L1 H1

[upper galleon]

and you need at least one stamina +3 curio

[upper galleon]

both are good I've found

[broken carbon]

they were saying that sarcastically lmao, surge staff is really bad when spammed at hordes

[broken carbon]

isn’t block efficiency bugged?

[upper galleon]

yee it looks useful

but it isn't

[plucky flax]

I am not. Just spam that shit.

[upper galleon]

is it?

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[upper galleon]

fucking fatshark

i need a bug master list

[cyan notch]

stamina is better for blocking

[broken carbon]

i heard it was somewhere

[native topaz]

yeah I know it's not great so I figured it's a real bad sign when it's the only thing that makes me feel like I'm actually helping lmao

[broken carbon]

lmfao that’s fair

[upper galleon]

but okay then go flak+ maniac+ at least one +3 stam curio

don't spam surge into hrodes it is shit

[plucky flax]

I'mma make a maelstrom surge spam only video.

(Teammates please kill specials)

[upper galleon]

playing surge you are basically a sword+ BB build with a utility staff

[broken carbon]

as psyker i tend to run deimos + trauma, the stagger of the trauma is incredibly useful

psyker can definitely feel like you’re playing mostly support

but it can be extremely effective with good game sense

[upper galleon]

it's not a support

[broken carbon]

what’s your feat setup?

[upper galleon]

people just think it is

protectorate maybe will be supportish but this is a very offense damage focused game rn

[native topaz]

what's a good Illisi setup? Same thing? Stam?

[upper galleon]

same thing basically

[broken carbon]

yeah but it can feel like it

[upper galleon]

illisi active doesn't stick, it's a sweep through

[plucky flax]

I always run deflector on both force swords but I never run extra stam.

[native topaz]

I figure if I do trauma to help stagger specials/elites to make them easier to deal with then it makes sense to focus more on hordeclear

[upper galleon]

stam increases the effectiveness of the block-> peril conversion

[cyan notch]

same just +1 on weapon

works well enougj

[upper galleon]

cause the peril increase is based on % of stam you would lose

nah, +1 on weapon isn't worth

imo

[plucky flax]

Without any it's already good enough to block for a fairly long time. Enough to get into cover.

[broken carbon]

agreed

[upper galleon]

+3 on curio is, but +1 on weapon? that is competing with 25% damage perk

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYoalxaVzKA

[cyan notch]

its worth it for me

maniac is all i need

[broken carbon]

the trauma has single-handedly saved plenty of games in my hands

[upper galleon]

flak is great and even unyielding would be better

[cyan notch]

nope

[upper galleon]

+1 stam XD

ok anyways

i'm loading up my psyker rn

[cyan notch]

flak already dies

unyielding is whatever

[upper galleon]

flak is scab ragers and that alone is worth it

[broken carbon]

when in doubt

flak maniac

[cyan notch]

already kill em in 1 hit

[native topaz]

oh I'm a fool. By trauma I meant Surge. The coffee hasn't hit yet

[broken carbon]

oh lmfao

[upper galleon]

yee

[broken carbon]

have your tried trauma?

[upper galleon]

i somehow gleamed that idk how, fellow tiredness

[broken carbon]

shouldddd i play sharktide when i get home

[native topaz]

is that the ball one or the floor is lava one

[broken carbon]

exhausted to exhausted communication

[broken carbon]

floor is lava

[native topaz]

no haven't pissed around too much with that

[broken carbon]

it’s probably the best staff

you probably had bad experience at the start

because it has really extreme stat scaling

[native topaz]

hmm

[broken carbon]

but it’s basically just a vet frag on command

it can stagger crushers out of their overheads

clear hordes

it’s great

[upper galleon]

trauma is the best rn and has 2 viable builds

rending flurry or blazing nexus

[broken carbon]

i hate blazing spirit trauma

i’ve never used it but i just don’t like it

[upper galleon]

but surge isn't bad, it's just, don't think of it as your primary weapon

[broken carbon]

it’s not what i use so it’s bad

[plucky flax]

It's cos it's super hard to make a good blaze trauma staff.

[cyan notch]

shit aiming

will never be good

[plucky flax]

All stats high + exact blessings and perks combination.

[broken carbon]

i mean i use flurry and nexus and it works plenty good

[native topaz]

what's the ELI5 of Trauma. Just smoke choke points?

[upper galleon]

the best surge players I've seen barely use it and will top the damage chart with illisi+ KB BBs

[upper galleon]

It is, I think someone did the math on it and rending > nexus

but flurry nexus would work as well

[broken carbon]

hold back choke points, don’t spam it into hordes that people are fighting though, stagger enemies hitting teammates

[spice veldt]

crits are only +15% damage on trauma so I don't consider it worth it

though neither is rending for pub games

[cyan notch]

rending doesnt do shit its to pretend ur helping

[plucky flax]

Eeeh you do absoutely spam into big horde. Your full charge blast will kill everything.

[broken carbon]

and whenever you clear peril as psyker always make sure you’re 360ing

good game sense is the best part of psyker

[upper galleon]

what I run for surge (But i don't run deflector)

[upper galleon]

helps with flak, helps with a few things

and cara,

[broken carbon]

i meant when others are fighting it

[plucky flax]

Yeah especially when they are fighting it. Steal the kills.

[broken carbon]

so that when the horde gets thrown by the explosion it doesn’t surround them

oh

lmfao

fair enough

[plucky flax]

Keep blasting on them.

It'll kill all mobs and they won't be surrounded.

Trauma is too op to worry about teammates.

[broken carbon]

the amount of times vets have gotten me killed by throwing frags into hordes

it’s not that often but

it’s very annoying

[upper galleon]

I don't think breakpoint calculator online is working but it was a psykanium example anyways

and I'm pretty sure it works like blazing spirit where the effect applies to everything it hits, even if it doesn't damage, just stagger

[broken carbon]

yeah but that’s dumb and stupid

[upper galleon]

🤷

[native topaz]

what perks good for trauma? Classic flak/maniac?

[upper galleon]

isn't like purge where nexus does something interesting, rending helps you and your team for doing what you are already doing by removing any armor resistances the enemy has (+8 rending XD)

[cyan notch]

rending doesnt help u

[broken carbon]

yeah

[upper galleon]

yee, unarmored isn't bad either but this is diving into a build I don't play, I usually go blazing trauma cause I'm a zealot at heart

[plucky flax]

1 shot all trash mobs (dreg bruiser need high peril or 2 warp charges)

[upper galleon]

jjust kidding

that was the brain damage

all you freaks look the same

[cyan notch]

what are you talkingg about i never mentioned surge

[cyan notch]

and u already do max damage with trauma so rending only helps teammates

[broken carbon]

you clearly mentioned it here

boom

argument destroyed

[cyan notch]

im not advocating for surge im answering someones question

[broken carbon]

nuh uh

[cyan notch]

please look at context

[broken carbon]

nuh uh

[plucky flax]

I agree though rending is super dead. No point in enabling teammates. It's every man for himself.

[upper galleon]

context? I was contextualized once

Ehh, if it was any other weapon i'd agree

[cyan notch]

u too freak

[upper galleon]

but traumas sheer size makes runs idiot proof, and I'm still too lazy to install the psyk mod and double check someone's work

[crude cape]

what staff do you guys like best for waves of mutants, surge?

[broken carbon]

voidstrike

[upper galleon]

surge unless your team has a thunderhammer or something

then void

[plucky flax]

Yeah I do enjoy surge with muties wave.

[crude cape]

void? O.o

[broken carbon]

i lied

i hate the void

[upper galleon]

well, you said staff, I usually just pull out my deimos or illisi and start baiting bulls

[crude cape]

TH isnt as good for waves of mutants as it seems, you can charge it and smack slower than they spawn and it only gets 2 dodges

what perks on surge staff btw

do you guys run flak maniac"?

[cyan notch]

there is no good staff for killing mutants so surge is best for doing something useful

[crude cape]

i haven't used surge in a while

[upper galleon]

idc about that you are gonna piss off your team if you surge mutants outside of thammer range

[plucky flax]

Imo flak +crit chance/unarmoured/maniac.

[native topaz]

How's this lookin

[crude cape]

that too

but it IS helpful for people with good ranged damage

[broken carbon]

terrifying barrage is really bad

especially on trauma

[upper galleon]

flurry> shockwave

[broken carbon]

great stat distribution

[native topaz]

haha nooo

[upper galleon]

and it's not bad just sucks you got stuck iwth TB cause TB sucks

[crude cape]

i was duoing with a mutant earlier who was using a +maniac twin linked heavy gorg, and i was stunning and he was just taking them all out

[broken carbon]

the trauma is good enough it’s not that big of a deal

[upper galleon]

yes, doesn't affect poxwalkers, you can just trauma at your feet anyways

[cyan notch]

duoing with a mutant to kill mutants

[native topaz]

yeah I figured getting 2/2 blessings and 1/2 blessings with decent stats was good enough

[broken carbon]

yeah

[crude cape]

i know + unarmoured is pretty not ideal, but what should my other perk be? should i swap to flak?, maniac?

[upper galleon]

don't you talk about our slabs like that witch! I'll post an out of context screenshot of you in ogryn chat

and start a drama that will last months!

[upper galleon]

crit chance isn't worth it on surge vs flak

[crude cape]

ok

[upper galleon]

flak helps one shot elite flaks and scab trash you chain to

[crude cape]

was also wondering if maniac would be good for killing muties and stuff (im about to queue up for auric malestom waves of muties)

[upper galleon]

aka the only damage scenario surge is good at

[crude cape]

right

[cyan notch]

no it sucks

[upper galleon]

you don't really use surge for killing the mutants

you use it for your team to kill it or you swap to BB and kill it

[cyan notch]

does like 0 damage to mutants and they have 3k hp

[crude cape]

itd dmg isnt awful tho, its one of its higher modifiers

equal to unyielding, between armor and unarmoured

its maniac dmg*

[cyan notch]

how much is it

[upper galleon]

otherwise that is a great stats with room to go to warp nexus 4

[crude cape]

crit is nearly 500 dmg

on muties according to the table in-game

[upper galleon]

ok so 3k hp

[cyan notch]

6 full charges to kill

[upper galleon]

yea

[cyan notch]

pretty mid

[crude cape]

well im not planning to kill

but +25% on top, and if my 2-3 charges brings them all to half

cleanup easier

[shrewd comet]

Does surge have a target cap?

[crude cape]

maybe im copium

[upper galleon]

you aren't gonna be killing mutants with it, you just need to stun for your team can kill or let you swap to BB and do it yourself

[crude cape]

lmao

[upper galleon]

yes

oh darktide crashed when I was tabbed out of it lovely

[native topaz]

does holding trauma just increase size of the blast or strength as well?

[cyan notch]

both

[native topaz]

rad

[cyan notch]

5 sometimes 6

[native topaz]

thanks all for the help

[shrewd comet]

I like surge and purgatus equally, though surge has that stunning benefit

Had more successful runs with surge because of the stun locking

[upper galleon]

more carried runs with surge

i find it funny that surge is the unironic best weapon for dealing with scab stalkers, an enemy every other class hates

[shrewd comet]

Which ones are the stalkers again?

[crude cape]

what is your guys prefered talent setups with surge?
I've been using arco's illy build for so long with trauma, i feel like it can work with surge but dont know if i want 6 stacks etc.
I'm using Illy + surge and 212233 (or i use quietude).
should i be using warp battery and psychic communion tho w/ surge?

[upper galleon]

scabs shooters that don't take cover and don't have the green goggles

[shrewd comet]

Oh ok

I'm still learning the names 😂

[upper galleon]

#psyker-class message

what i run

tho I don't take deflector so you should adjust your pick on the 4th column

[crude cape]

ya i go back and forth on deflector, have force swords setup with both it and unstable power

and ofc slaught

[crude cape]

the only thing im unsure of on this build, is no access to free stacks

[upper galleon]

KB BB

also KB doesn't consume stacks

and since you have CDR feat, you can spam KB a lot more

[crude cape]

right, ya ive been rocking similar but 312233

for the auto BB when in melee or w/e

helps with stacks too so i dont have to BB as much

[upper galleon]

auto BB isn't too good

compared to 6 charges which helps for breakpoints

[crude cape]

ill try it out.

[upper galleon]

and remember, you should be using sword and BB more than you are using surge unless it's like, scab only ranged only or mutant/poxburster maelstrom

[crude cape]

ive always felt you need 1 auto stack skill

but

new skill trees should make that easy

[upper galleon]

that is basically what KB does for you, and since they don't decay all at once like they used to, it is pretty easy to maintain stacks and high peril

[crude cape]

lol its been so long since it used to do that

psyker was so much worse on launch

[cyan notch]

probably auto as in not use bb

[crude cape]

its crazy

ya thats what i mean

[upper galleon]

yee I know what you mean, psychic communion isn't bad and neither is auto BB

i just feel 6 charges and CDR help way more once you get the gameplay loop down safely

[broken carbon]

it’s fun tho

cant it proc off a brain burst?

[upper galleon]

All attacks have 10% chance on hit to Brain Burst the target. This cannot occur while at critical Peril and has a cooldown of 15 seconds.

yes

it is fun not gonna lie

[indigo portal]

Is the "This cannot occur while at critical Peril" even true? From what I've seen it doesn't even use a droplet of peril when it procs.

[upper galleon]

it's 97%

literally

the bare minimum so the feat doesn't blow you up i guess

[cyan notch]

the feat doesnt blow u up at all even without it

[indigo portal]

Huh, weird. Wonder if it like, gives peril but immediately discounts it but because of it giving peril it can blow you up.

[spice veldt]

doubt it, since any quelling will prevent you from blowing up regardless

[upper galleon]

usually when you proc it

you are also proccing battle mediation a lot

while normal BBs you aren't gonna be proc'ing battle mediation frequently

[indigo portal]

Super odd. Time to get my ass up to 100% peril and just spam a knife at a crusher and see if it ever procs lol.

Because I swear it doesn't even give 0.05% peril.

[cyan notch]

it doesnt

[spice veldt]

maybe their test version used to generate peril but then they removed that but left the "doesn't work past 97% peril" in

or it was some weird obscure nerf to high peril builds

the world will never know

[late crest]

I now permanently have a disgusting, blasphemous Autopistol Psyker loadout. Getting those free brainbursts every 15 seconds is so blissful. You may shame me now

[cyan notch]

its good

probably gonna get nerfed tho

[indigo portal]

The only busted part of that build is the Shredder, so I don't think anything else about it will get nerfed or anything. Just Pinning Fire and maybe Blaze Away.

[upper galleon]

i want KF to be buffed

like, 5 second cd

idc it would still be competing with the consistency of 6 charges and wildin fire for spreading flames

[spice veldt]

if they didn't run out of ideas for feats in the skill tree, then I expect kinetic flayer to be entirely removed

only two nodes behind each nade, and cerebral lacerations and wrack & ruin would be my first guess

and the idea of a passive brainburst is just kind of boring

[upper galleon]

I mean, gun builds would love it especially if it generated peril

and it can help in melee rn it's just, idk i think the 15 second cd is too limiting

[spice veldt]

true if it had generated peril

[fluid knot]

Reallly hoping WnR works with the Shards

That would be so fun

[indigo portal]

Because of the talent not directly relying on the BB's existence, I can see it just being a normal talent and not an addon. It doesn't require you to BB something, but rather just allows you to passively BB stuff. Might be locked behind the Psykinetic keystone ability though.

[cyan notch]

what is the shards

[fluid knot]

Telekinetic throwing knives, basically

[cyan notch]

the magic missle things?

[fluid knot]

Aye, them

[indigo portal]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-missile-gif-18505051

[native topaz]

did a run with that trauma staff, that went way better, thanks for the tips all. I still spent too much time trying to hit things that were far away with the ground blast when I should have been BB or just blasting but we learnin'

[sharp lava]

Do force sword share blessing pools i.e. if i get it off one, can i use it on another?

I thought they did, but can't seem to put one i know i have onto an Illisi

[harsh urchin]

yes

have you tried turning it on and off again

[sharp lava]

The magnifying glass with a star shows you have a blessing, right?

i'm not going mad

[hollow current]

it means its a new blessing you dont have in your pool yet

[ornate hamlet]

My guess for why kinetic flayer doesn't work at critical peril is them wanting to not give you a free BB during a time in which you can't actually use one without blowing up

Or forgor 💀

[harsh urchin]

they probably originally coded/designed it

to raise peril

and they had to "fix" it

just like how they fixed vicious slice on catachan

[normal sequoia]

what is the PSA on Blazing Spirit on force swords ? I remembered reading somewhere that it was decent in some builds?

[harsh urchin]

trash

if you have BS4 you should still grab it for your blessing bank

[normal sequoia]

aight, so I guess I'll just take off this T4 BS I got on this sword

yep

[fluid knot]

Only way to make it kinda useful is Shred/Blazing on Deimos, but it never works as much as one would like

[normal sequoia]

it's this lol

blessing bank it is

[fluid knot]

If they increased the stack count to 6 per hit, it would be so much more useful tbh

Or per proc rather

[upper galleon]

it's a meme, maybe it will be better post oct 4th but rn only staffs can run blazing spirit to success

Deimos has a heavy hitting h2 and activated attack, so like, what are you applying burn to that wouldn't be easier with your staff

and Illisi? You are giving up slaughterer because blazing is gonna want shred and a perk for crit chance but

most everything you hit with activated swings are gonna die instantly

blazing trauma and blazing void works cause it applies to things they stagger and they often don't kill everything they hit

[harsh salmon]

holy shit

okay

what am i hoping for

[blazing echo]

Warp nexus/warp flurry I think

[harsh salmon]

and for perks?

[blazing echo]

Flak/maniac

[harsh salmon]

very cool

-_-

i hate living

[blazing echo]

Hadron loves you

[harsh salmon]

i guess this isnt recoverable

well

there goes my luck for the year

we have another shot

is it even worth it upgrading past green if its not the right perk?

[indigo portal]

Yeah? +Horde isn't the worst thing ever, it's just not really super optimal.

I usually just upgrade to orange anyway.

[teal needle]

Not like purgatus really needs perks to get over breakpoints anyways

[brave turret]

If you kill enemies after applying soul blaze, can you still proc a warp charge

[ornate hamlet]

I hope we end up having crit-oriented stuff on every class instead of psyker being left out

There's some funny shit to be done there and we could even bring some blessings as feats, like making blazing spirit a feat and removing it from the blessing pool like we sort of have with zealot's bleed feat

[acoustic osprey]

If you have the blessings you need extracted, then just upgrade first 3. If all of thosr 3 are not what you want, then it's pointless to do final upgrade

[frail pewter]

what are the perks I should put on this staff? i dont have IV blessings for either of Nexus or Flurry

are they necessary or can I skip to the perks?

[indigo portal]

I would just swap both perks. Warp Nexus 3 -> 4 is a small increase to avg damage and you don't really need Warp Flurry 4 either. Flak/Maniac are the top choices iirc.

[lyric burrow]

flak unarmored or flak maniac yeah

[fierce basalt]

anyone willing to help me get the malleus monstronum penance for my psyker plz ?

[queen trout]

I run flak/unarmored with warp battery and ascendant blaze to take care of shooter hoards

[queen trout]

If you still need help in 3 hours I'll help you, at work rn

[livid root]

What do yall change with the 512? Also which one do you like better

[upper galleon]

huh

[hollow current]

I'd keep it as is, maybe change deflector later if you grow out of it.

[upper galleon]

512 i'd just upgrade both perks

or if you want to not run deflector and run unstable power

and keep sword right as your deflector sword

[livid root]

I def like deflector I the main difference between the 2 is one is 15 peril one is 24

do you guys prefer lower peril

[hollow current]

for the illi I think some people like higher peril with unstable power to pull up the extra damage more easily

[upper galleon]

yee that's why i'm saying

keep sword number 2 as deflector sword

[livid root]

ahh ok got it

[upper galleon]

make 512 sword your unstable power sword

[livid root]

thanks

[upper galleon]

cause unstable power wants less warp resistance

[livid root]

question is unstable power 5% power x5 stacks or is it 5% power total 1% per stack

[upper galleon]

it's 5x5

[livid root]

ohh ok ive always questions wether buffs like that are total or stacks cause its written by cave men

cause it says "Up to 5% power" scaling with peril

[upper galleon]

you are almost right it is written by an obese megalodon

[olive ember]

fucking @cyan notch didn't even know what mind shards were until today

can't believe he isn't keeping up with darktide news

fucking old man

[cyan notch]

nobody called em mind shards

[fluid knot]

Brain knives

[south zephyr]

Usable, or does the t3 Transfer kill it?

[broken carbon]

usable but not ideal

[south zephyr]

what would need to change to make it ideal?

[broken carbon]

transfer peril

[south zephyr]

other than that, it's solid?

[broken carbon]

yeah

good stats

good perks

and one good blessing

and transfer peril isn’t necessarily terrible

it’s just not what most prefer

[south zephyr]

was under the impression that transfer was the preferred for void

[broken carbon]

i don’t actually use the void so

i could just be wrong lmao

i think it’s just that transfer is most effective on void compared to other staves

methinks it was nexus that people like?

nexus, surge, or blazing spirit

[south zephyr]

curious to know what others think as well

[cyan notch]

transfer peril flurry is best

flurry lets u keep shooting fast and transfer peril lets u shoot non stop

surge is garbage cuz its crit chance is so low u need warp nexus if you want to gamble surge but then u might as well use transfer flurry for more voids per second

[broken carbon]

VPS

[cyan notch]

u can do nexus blazing for macro spam but that doesnt really count imo (cheating and lame)

[topaz ice]

Could I get a recommendation one which one I should put Tier IV slaughterer on?

[hollow current]

I'd say left and change critical damage to maniac or something

that said both swords are kinda eh because their finesse dumped

[harsh urchin]

tbh neither.

you really want 80 finesse and 75+ damage

I would keep buying them until you hit one like that

[rose lily]

best perks for a purg staff?

i have these so far

[upper galleon]

Crit damage to unyielding or maniac (or even unarmored if you are feeling feisty with wildfire)

[upper galleon]

.

[echo cosmos]

Why is crit damage good?

[upper galleon]

Crit damage is not good

That's why am saying to change it

Crit chance is, good in the sense it gives you +1 stacks of fire but...

It's worth the blessing slot, not worth the perk slot

[echo cosmos]

That's what I meant

[echo cosmos]

I want to airlock Hadron

I want to send her out the airlock and into open space

[regal jasper]

Hadron is ok

[echo cosmos]

I need literally a single blessing, I will be very upsetti if this doesn't work

[regal jasper]

Oh

[echo cosmos]

If Hadron were okay, she'd give me the blessing I need

I could bother Melk, actually

In the off chance he has what I want

Melk disappoints again

Yes! Warp flurry 4!

[magic burrow]

the emperor provides

[echo cosmos]

Now to sack Brunt's

Looking for high burn and cloud radius, damage dump stat

Well, when I have the money

Right now I am just going to do one last mission, assassination

For the night, at least

[echo cosmos]

Wow, Ascendant Blaze is powerful

Damn you Hadron! You ruined an amazing purg staff!

Max burn, max cloud, max quell speed

First two are what I care about but +8% to elites and +8% crit?

Seriously?

Hadron is trolling at this point

This is a perfect purg and she ruined it

Not a 380, but high stats where high stats matter

Run and Gun, and TB4

[topaz ice]

Should I use Shred or Unstable Power on an Illisi with Slaughterer?

[harsh urchin]

unstable power is a bit better on shred; but since you have slaughterer, the perks are more important to be correct

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[magic hull]

i got four staff on the store today. Which one should i buy.

nvm i bought all of them, how should i go about building these.

[restive slate]

There's two ways of building, Fire Trauma and Rending Trauma

[mellow relic]

Bit of a relavent question then, Should I spend the 3k tokens for the 500 staff or is it realllyy not worth changing over?

[restive slate]

Heres how i build mine

Fire Trauma

• Crit
• Infested
  -- Warp Nexus
  -- Soulblaze

Rending

• Infested
• Unarmoured
  -- Rending Shockwave
  -- Warp Flurry

You're not gonna kill Crushers anytime soon so better stick to what Trauma is good at, being a CC lord

[restive slate]

The perks of 500 staff is kinda meh ngl

But that BURN stat is real good

I say go for it

[mellow relic]

Fair nuff, I think I mighhtt..Swap out the Range crit 'cause it's only 3% but man...I know those perks aren't really neat

[harsh urchin]

I think if you want to get an upgrade, you probably want to stat-hunt for bases from brunts instead

What I would personally look for is 79-80 cloud radius and 76+ burn as the highest priority. And then go from there.

[magic hull]

average darktide experience.

[languid tusk]

I keep finding purgatus psykers who use their purgatus 99% of the time by hanging back and flaming things that other people are already meleeing

plis remind me there are stronk purgatus users around

[plucky flax]

There are none.

[blazing echo]

I'll stop doing it once my team stop going down because they want to melee hordes. I play with pubs. You can't change me! Lol

[languid tusk]

peak purgatus is achieved by charging ahead and flaming things that other people haven't touched yet

[blazing echo]

Squishies don't tend to fare too well charging ahead tho

[magic robin]

what should i swap on this? i think the blessings are fine.

[flint pawn]

Groaners to Flak always

Other than that uhhhhh

I'd try to say Focused Channeling has an argument over Warp Nexus for utility but you might want to spend that on level 4 Warp Flurry instead maybe

I jsut know Groaners to Flak for sure

[magic robin]

ty

[viral solstice]

groaners to moaners

[exotic tulip]

Warp nexus is alright, one of the only damage increases on the surge staff I think

[potent echo]

I do it so the vet can actually focus on specialists instead, which they should want to

[spice veldt]

not a fan of purg psykers who do it on groups of 1 - 10 enemies, but there's no problem with that anyways since you can just run ahead and leave the purg psyker to do their own thing

if there's a horde and they're coming from a particular direction that's not quite a chokepoint, you can be reasonably confident in leaving the purg/flamer alone and just running ahead to push the map and whatever

it's the one staff that I'm fine with people using for 90% of the match

[languid tusk]

It's more a matter of positioning

if you use your purgatus from a corner and fill the next room with flames, that's cool

if you stand all the way back and your flames only reach the corner, that's more annoying that anything

since we would need to get to the corner anyways

[spice veldt]

what a lack of trust in dodges does to a mf

i can only pray for a better tutorial in the next patch so that people know how dodges against melee work and be comfortable with enemies around even when in a relatively immobile state

[languid tusk]

word

you shouldn't be afraif of melee, melee enemies are at their most dangerous when you try to escape them

[spice veldt]

yeah running attacks are fairly punishing

though you can do a funny thing by walking into a poxwalker that's doing a running attack to make him just run in place, and then you can safely dodge away

[meager plinth]

make them afraid of being in melee with you

[languid tusk]

CAN PSYKER WIELD CHAINSword ?

why did nobody tell me

[cyan notch]

yea

chord

[meager plinth]

chord

its been my prefered weapon for psyker, tho its far from the best

hitting a mutie with it and both having the random brain burst trigger + the saw's rip

delectable

or for this

[fluid knot]

Christ dont even.. i got one who was playing Psyker like your average Zealot the other day.. run off doing the crab walk with FS, puffing the odd bit of fire into stuff and carrying on. The result was predictable enough, man got ass-ratted after about 5min an then left

[meager plinth]

did they have multiple wound curios?

[fluid knot]

Just one extra, so it wasnt a full bag of ass

But it was pretty poor play nonetheless

[languid tusk]

5 wounds: ☑

dodge spamming 3 rooms ahead: ☑

getting netted: ☑

immediate disconnect: ☑

peak darktide

[remote gale]

??

I really kind of wanted to blow him up but I hesitated

[hoary cairn]

I hate it so much when people do this, why melee push when you already push him away

[magic hull]

because, cool factor

[true wedge]

This is making me feel way better about my skill level.

[junior plover]

lf help for cliffhanger penace

[south zephyr]

so uh, wasn't this based on peril before?

[thorn cedar]

still peril

the code has perils labeled as warp charge

its a thing

[south zephyr]

that's unfortunate, warp charge would be a huge QoL buff for this feat

at least imo

[thorn cedar]

it would be mad busted tbh

but yes lmao

let me be 50% tankier than an ogryn

[queen fog]

Imagine what it’d be with warp battery

No more worrying bout toughness

[spice veldt]

ogryns having passive 36% toughness dr 😔

[reef island]

if using a purgatus should I just take every soulblaze talent?

[queen fog]

U don’t gotta get the wildfire one but ascendant blaze is mad handy

I’ve tripped too many DH’s cuz of wildfire

[reef island]

okay cause I was thinking kinetic flayer is pretty cool looking

[indigo portal]

I thought Wildfire doesn't proc on DHs? I've heard they have stuff to prevent some effects from procing on them.

[queen fog]

Oh then it’s me being a scaredy pants

[dawn wolf]

DH?

[queen fog]

Demon host

Y’know the witch of this game

[dawn wolf]

Oh, ty

[queen fog]

Np

[reef island]

"I'm not wicked, I'm not."

[queen fog]

“Yes yes of course I’ll do whatever u say”

[spice veldt]

kinetic overload (old feat) had an anti-dh feature so I assume that wildfire does as well

[queen fog]

I definitely had the fire talents switched up then

I do remember sneezing fire at a DH

[upper galleon]

yee it doesn't

bots don't trigger DHs either unless they path into it

[indigo portal]

Me intentionally kiting bots into a DH

[queen fog]

Me watching a gunner headshot the DH due to my decision to wanna slide away from suppressing fire

[primal plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/16r0gjg/ranged_weapon_tier_list_based_on_2500_public_high/

SOMEONE CHECK ON THE COPEATUS USERS

[upper galleon]

more popular weapons gonna have their winrate dragged down

🙂

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[primal plume]

Trying so hard for my attention its so sad

get a hobby lmao

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[steel egret]

🤔

[upper galleon]

it's funny cause idk who he is (not ego, I'm just brain damaged)

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/bard-shrug-dance-buff-gif-25063423

[patent steeple]

I actually got a decent amount of stuff done on an Auric mission as Wildfire purg psyker, although one of our two ogryns at one point asked me, with caps lock active, something like "psyker, what are you doing on this difficulty?"

[queen fog]

Sometimes the best compliment is them not even noticing ur hard work

[grizzled jasper]

When the camo vet suddenly needs to clutch

[queen fog]

That’s how fast u laid waste to hordes and specials

Ogryn’s still processing ur contribution meanwhile if u didn’t contribute they’d be neck deep in poxwalkers

[willow escarp]

da hell

[sinful bramble]

Something along the lines of 'when you do your job right, nobody will know that you've done anything at all'

[queen fog]

^

Ye this

thank u JJK broski

[sinful bramble]

Anyway I'mma level up a new psyker for the sake of a different personality

I like the loner but figured I'd make a seer personality one as well

[reef island]

is there such a curio as a +2 wound? and also do I neeeed to take +1 wound curio to survive on higher diffs?

still relatively new to psyker

[upper galleon]

no and no

2hp 1 toughness if you need it

wounds max 1, stam max 3, toughness max 17, hp max 21

[sinful bramble]

If you're not confident you can't keep yourself from going down, keep a wound curio, but once you get into the groove of things it's better to swap a wound curio for just about anything else

[upper galleon]

yee, if you must run a wound curio, run jsut one and try to grow out of it

[brave turret]

?

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is too op I got asked. Turned out the other psyker (purg) also runs wildfire. Wildfire haters where you at?

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh hey, I was in that lobby :V

(Plasma vet)

[plucky flax]

[vestal fulcrum]

Wildfire is generally a good addition to any soul blaze build, though

It's sooo much extra chip damage at no additional cost of attention span

[plucky flax]

You can't say that here.

[vestal fulcrum]

Is that so?

[golden frigate]

but muh breakpoints

[plucky flax]

Prepare to get lynched by the warp battery mobs.

[golden frigate]

real psykers dont take a lvl 25 perk

[vestal fulcrum]

real psykers take the hot gun and become a plasma vet

[golden frigate]

hot gun? blaze void?

[true lake]

wildfire only works when the enemy hordes are super packed

otherwise it's not too important to grab

[plucky flax]

Me using wildfire in low intensity sedition runs.

[true lake]

lol

you do you I guess

[plucky flax]

It's so much better than warp battery.

[vestal fulcrum]

Realistically, when does Warp Battery make a significant difference in killing power of AB/other sources?

[fluid girder]

Warp powered blender

[indigo portal]

Wildfire scales really well to Damnation, on HiStG you hit the point where your Wildfire is going from horde fodder to the rest of the room. Will chip shooters, elites, and specials for simply existing. Quite nice for a simple AB/Wildfire combo or if you're running a Blazing Spirit/Purge staff.

[true lake]

warp battery is fun sometimes but if you are running a purgatus the extra 8% of damage isn't too important unless you are using your melee often

wildfire adds more to the purgatus directly

[cyan notch]

its not for 8% damage

its for 1 shotting more stuff with bb

[true lake]

I guess but bb gets hard to pull off sometimes on higher difficulty

especially on monstrosity modifier, that shit scares me

[upper galleon]

8% hits a BB breakpoint on flamers

but, you take warp unleashed anyways and like, if you are going fire and playing into hi damn, it's very much worth

[plucky flax]

What is worse than what?

[upper galleon]

sorry typo

[cyan notch]

i rather have consistent special kills

[upper galleon]

consistent for technically 2 enemies

8% isn't that much and and if you wanna play around BB that bad you should just go KB builds

warpfire scales multiplicatively with enemy density so if you are playing around a ton of blaze stacks

it's worth

[cyan notch]

its for crushers too and i like more consistency

[plucky flax]

I only use bb for far away sniper or bomber.

[cyan notch]

kb isnt mutually exclusive with warp battery

[plucky flax]

On my surge build I run flayer with kb.

I don't use warp battery for any build.

[cyan notch]

whatever works for u

[slim lily]

Hello fellows what is the revolver build? Like saw people doing it, what are the blessings perks and talents should I go for ?

[plucky flax]

I'm a big wildfire advocate. If you use purg or blaze trauma run that it's op.

[cyan notch]

no thanks

i rather kill the hvts faster

[plucky flax]

Warp battery with soulblaze staves?

[cyan notch]

with purg

nice for ab too

[plucky flax]

[cyan notch]

nice to have a shooter delete button

[plucky flax]

I almost always have the most smol shooters killed with my wildfire blaze trauma.

Unless when there's a really really good vet.

[cyan notch]

way more agency and range with ab

especially when theres not a horde for u to slowly spread wildfire

walk up bam f all dead in 3s

[plucky flax]

Nah 1 blast from my trauma staff and all ded. 80% damage 80% charge rate 80% blast radius.

[cyan notch]

sure if theyre standing in a 1m radius circle

[plucky flax]

They always do.

[cyan notch]

warp battery + ab for shooter delete
purg for horde delete
warp battery + bb for special/elite delete
deimos for single target delete

gg ez

[plucky flax]

Random psyker guy approved my choice.

[cyan notch]

if it works for you it works

[fluid knot]

If only such mentality was more common an there was less screeching about bad choices

[upper galleon]

trauma blazing applies to everything it hits even if it does 0 damage

as long as it staggers

[lyric burrow]

trauma blazing is def good and you can get a half charge or so off pretty quick

doesnt need to be min charge spam

[mild panther]

Ive been thinking to do my second character as psyker so u all experienced ones tell me is there things I should know before start? Is psyker more like support or DPS?

[upper galleon]

trauma is just best

[true lake]

its likely going to change here in a few days anyway

the new class system might make a more efficient build with new talents or something

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma buff with tier 4 blazing spirit I can feel it.

[true lake]

psyker is very versatile when you get to some of their more unique weaponry later on in levels

but mainly they are the special killers because bb ignores armor