psyker-class

[feral inlet]

for hordes

[fresh reef]

I respect your choice

But I need to ask, have you at least tried it?

[feral inlet]

yes

and the same game at the end

the entire team told me that wildfire is shit on purgatus

and i never ran it again

mostly due to

6 warp charges meaning i can instantly apply 6 soulblaze stacks with AB

and extra dmg

[still hearth]

Isn't Wildfire kinda bad

[fresh reef]

Fair point

[still hearth]

Something about the stacks making it kinda sucky

[potent echo]

6wc AB solves everything

[feral inlet]

its so juicy

[potent echo]

Except crushers and bosses but yea

[fresh reef]

Personally I run 233223

[potent echo]

On purge?

[fresh reef]

Eyup

[still hearth]

It adds more stacks to bosses if you're at the cap

[potent echo]

How do you deal with gunners

[still hearth]

So it's still good

[feral inlet]

i like applying max soulblaze to bosses if i have the option to

then use brainbursts

[fresh reef]

Primarily focus on BB'ing elites and specials, and when those aren't around Purgatus deals with the horde

[feral inlet]

maximizing dps

[fresh reef]

I run dueling sword

I like just dodge into the shooters with my suppression stick

[potent echo]

How about the famous chasm logistratum drop

[still hearth]

I bully the Vet into doing their job

[potent echo]

Where a field of shooters spawn on the other side after a drop

The assassination mission

[fresh reef]

Is chasm logistratum the "flush the cistern" one?

I hardly remember mission names

[fresh reef]

They're within 17 meters

They cannot do anything lol

Constant suppression against shooters and gunners effectively as good as surge because they just stand there

[potent echo]

But there are multiple levels of shooters

[gilded radish]

you got people who dont do their job? same

[fresh reef]

Wdym?

[gilded radish]

just hide behind a box and mass pop heads

[potent echo]

It's hard to explain without the exact pic

[fresh reef]

I haven't slept in 24 hours please bear with me

So, you said the assassination mission

Is the thumbnail more green, or more blue

[potent echo]

You do a drop, go through a tunnel with a medicae

Then turn left onto catwalks which spiral down

By then the entire place is infested with shooters

And they are all posting up at the far side of the room on multiple levels

[fresh reef]

I really cannot recall the place

But here's the thing

[gilded radish]

which assassin mission are we talking about?

[potent echo]

It's the train assassination mission where you divert the train

[fresh reef]

You just have to barely scrape them with the flames for the full suppression animation

[potent echo]

Shotgun scab captain

[still hearth]

Train is the worst

[fresh reef]

OH FUCKING THAT ONE

[potent echo]

Yea that room full of shooters

6wc AB go brrr

Everything on the other platform dies

[gilded radish]

i dont pay attention to that, better say the biome of the mission

[potent echo]

I don't know the biome

[fresh reef]

Generally I'd say purg doesn't struggle there

Cuz again if you just get close enough they're harmless

[potent echo]

Isit logistatum something

[gilded radish]

yep

[potent echo]

I guess but that room is so damn spicy if the side has a bunch of stuff too

It's just much faster to AB and walk through the front

[fresh reef]

It also depends on playstyle, somewhat

I feel like I can do the same thing as 6wc ab, but with substantially more risk

Because it's fun

[languid tusk]

is this a good combo for surge staff 🤔 ?

[still hearth]

As an avid surge hater: probably.

[solemn ledge]

Surge hater, why’s that?

[still hearth]

Because its the least effective thing at killing everything I need to kill.

[solemn ledge]

Yea it’s definitely more of a support staff for stunning and letting your team deal with the threat I can see that hate.

[still hearth]

And I can't trust my team to do anything useful

[gilded radish]

Surge staff psykers are the best

They keep my prey still

[olive ember]

Holy shit

https://reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/BclSzhXUmN

The latest and greatest

[gilded radish]

With purge i hard carry even good players in hard mission types

[feral inlet]

purgatus is the best staff after trauma

trauma
blaze trauma
purgatus
surge
voidstrike

well

maybe i should put in more hours on voidstrike

[gilded radish]

Voidstrike is such shit

[feral inlet]

but the cleave limit like already sets me off course

[gilded radish]

Unless you rapid fire it

[cyan notch]

mf is getting TOASTED in the comments lmfao

[limpid cypress]

I like the voidstrike way more than I should lol

[cyan notch]

reddit warrior at its best

[gilded radish]

Shoot big balls of energy into some heretics

[limpid cypress]

It essentially boils down to me like big AOE orb. Purgatus is still the number one in my heart, but I have space in there for the voidstrike too

[gilded radish]

Trauma and surge are 2nd and then voidstrike is a solid 4th

[olive ember]

Eh purge is stronger than surge

[languid tusk]

newbie psyker with purgatus is a pain, that's true, if you don't kill poxwalkers fast enough the team still needs to melee them and you lose the usefulness of the purgatus

but once you have the right setup for it, purgatus clears the screen really fast, giving your team a chance to see what lies beyond the horde

[olive ember]

It’s basically trauma = purge > surge > voidstrike

[languid tusk]

spoiler: it's another horde

[cyan notch]

yea the staff options arent very great

maybe theyll get buffed

[olive ember]

Ik Arcotash wants a single target damage staff

I just want bolter equivalent for staff

[cyan notch]

thats min charge voidstrike macro

[olive ember]

.>

[still hearth]

Purgatus is the best staff but I'll accept your personal bias

[olive ember]

But what about purgatus worse staff?

[still hearth]

Purgatus cleaning out 19m of horde and killing anything not in heavy armor: bad

[olive ember]

#psyker-class message

[still hearth]

Yeah I've seen it

[gilded radish]

Trauma is tbh better than purge since it can deal with everything while purge will shred through hords and deal dmg too maniacs fast

[still hearth]

Proof?

[feral inlet]

trauma blazing is a better purgatus imo

[olive ember]

Purge kills shit faster trauma CC’s better

Imo

[feral inlet]

they're both the best

[still hearth]

We can compromise there

I will however

Never allowe Surge

Above the bottom

Worst staff

[feral inlet]

well

surge has its niche

[gilded radish]

Its one of the better

[feral inlet]

void doesnt

[still hearth]

Void is just overall good though

[gilded radish]

I would rather have a surge on my team then a purge psyker

[olive ember]

It isn’t

You are just coping

[still hearth]

Yuck, surge

[gilded radish]

Because i get more of the kills

[still hearth]

Ah

[olive ember]

Not even Arcotash can say that voidstrike is better than surge

[still hearth]

That's fair

[gilded radish]

Gotta think outside the box

[still hearth]

Yeah but I am better than everyone so

[olive ember]

That’s how bad it is

[feral inlet]

well

[olive ember]

That I can go “Arcotash surge or void” and he will choose surge

[feral inlet]

you dont run surge

[olive ember]

Lmao

[feral inlet]

you run illisi

surge is complementary

[still hearth]

Just run trauma for the CC

And ranged horde clear

[olive ember]

Yeah I wish surge hit more enemies and had global damage

So that every enemy was treated as a flak enemy in terms of damage

[fierce crest]

whats the 3rd force sword supposed to be good at

[still hearth]

Its not

[feral inlet]

wdym 3rd

[still hearth]

I assume the first

[fierce crest]

[feral inlet]

obscurus is shit

[olive ember]

Obscures is the OG

[feral inlet]

deimos is signle target

[fierce crest]

not mk3

[feral inlet]

illisi is the best

[olive ember]

Then they released the deimos and the illisi which are better than it

[fierce crest]

but what is it SUPPOSED to be for

[gilded radish]

Obscures is a mix of both

[fierce crest]

ah

[olive ember]

The obscures is supposed to be the middle ground between horde clear and single target

[fierce crest]

but its got the single target charge

[feral inlet]

osbcurus was supposed to be the generalist

[still hearth]

Deimos: best single target
Illisi: best horde clear
Obscurus: second best single target, no horde clear??

[feral inlet]

but illisi took that role

[olive ember]

But the deimos has better horde clear and the illisi has same single target

[still hearth]

Obscurus is definitely just trash rn

[olive ember]

Well the obscures does have its special which is good against maulers crushers and that assassination boss

Obscures buffs when smh

[still hearth]

Its identical to Deimos though??

[cyan notch]

i dont even think obscurus has 2nd best single target lol

[fierce crest]

the 4th

[olive ember]

The special is identical to the deimos he’s

[gilded radish]

Deimos is also good at spinning you around and giving you a quick confusement on were tf you are

[olive ember]

Pretty sure it’s same as illisi but illisi does have an easier time getting blessing stacks like slaughterer or unstable power

[still hearth]

That's a bonus joy ride

[cyan notch]

illisi special light probably outdoes obscurus

[feral inlet]

duelling sword has 2nd best single target i think

[gilded radish]

One of my fav thing about it

[still hearth]

Deimos and Obscurus have identical special damage. And Illisi does way less but cleaves hard

But Illisi also doesn't stunlock you and is much faster afaik

[gilded radish]

Too many numbets

[still hearth]

Illisi also does way less on armor vs unarmed, compared to deimos/obscurus which do nearly double damage to armored targets.

[gilded radish]

You can 1 shot a mutie with deimos on second heavy hit

[still hearth]

Yeah Deimos second heavy hit is dummy thicc

A WS hit with the Deimos second heavy does the same as a special hit to the body.

Specifically to berserkers though

[gilded radish]

When ever i do a mutie wave maelstrom i stand in a corridor waiting for them while my teammates cowardly hide

[still hearth]

Then the servers eat your hit and you get grabbed by 20 mutants

[gilded radish]

Call them ragers

[still hearth]

No because ragers are a specific enemy

Tsk tsk

[gilded radish]

Get passed around

Like a snack

[gilded radish]

Literally ragers are berserkers

The scab ones

Or dregs whichever dont have knight armour

[still hearth]

Yeah but mutants are also berserkers! Though I guess the in game term is Maniacs

Using different words in code and in game is

[hollow depot]

which force sword is better

[languid tusk]

obscurus

[olive ember]

Lmao

They are all good so just pick wte

Tho illisi is the stupid good one

[languid tusk]

for the record, I was kidding lol. Illisi has better horde clear, deimos has better single target

[gilded radish]

And spin around

[quaint mortar]

i opened Reddit this morning and saw that post about the purgatus staff and was bewildered lmao

glad everyone here agrees that purgatus is good, i use it frequently and perform much better with it. plus it forces me to use brain burst more frequently and more carefully

[potent echo]

Which reddit post?

[quaint mortar]

@potent echo

[potent echo]

Oh was it posted by the guy who came in even earlier

[feral inlet]

i knew it seemed familiar

[lapis bay]

LMAO purgatus staff dude got roasted

[feral inlet]

the time checked too

[potent echo]

Copeatus he called it

[cyan notch]

his team probably just sucks

sometimes ur team just aint that great

ez to blame specific loadouts but its probably the players

[indigo portal]

It's not like, bustedly op or anything but it's for sure more potent than Voidstrike.

[feral inlet]

you can carry with purg illisi

brainburst crushers ez

[quaint mortar]

ive had that happen before, my team werent focusing any shooters/gunners and we got ruined. there's only so much frequent brain bursting can do if no one else is helping take things out

plus- when a zealot sprints towards a daemonhost that doesn't help either

[potent echo]

Purge works when it's a duo diving into enemy lines

[hazy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-season4-murray-murray-flamethrower-flamethrower-burn-gif-26023596

[potent echo]

Usually I partner up with. Zealot or ogryn to wreck havoc

[feral inlet]

zealot ogryn is the best class comb

o

[potent echo]

Solo works too but you got to cover yourself too which might be difficult if you round the corner and see 5 crushers and 3 bulwarks

[feral inlet]

just be melee psyker

[potent echo]

Ew

Maybe after oct4 update where we can get some real melee feats going

[lapis bay]

I wonder if this will be their version of subclasses, like speccing into physical vs warp feats

Wonder how they'll implement the deployable shield

[quaint mortar]

im really hyped for that shield ability, feel like that's gonna be incredibly useful

[lapis bay]

Seriously, some of the biggest killers for me in the game are the shooters/ranged/randomly dropped poxburster. I feel like having at least one psyker with a shield will eliminate some of the most deadly mobs

[grizzled jasper]

There’s a vid I made somewhere in discord of poxburster spawning out of thin air in front of me

Also this too notice how a poxburster just spawns outta nowhere

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1t1aZ2rLuZ7oQZ/d1337Z2UlaUF?invite=cr-MSxJVlMsMTczOTM4NDQ3LA

Cheaaaaaaap

[quaint mortar]

EXACTLY. plus some areas, like the train station area on the ascension riser mission where the near entirety of the area is open, that shield is gonna be MASSIVE

[languid tusk]

wait for it... shield does not block snipers

[olive ember]

^^ i stg

[quaint mortar]

snipers aren't a problem for me tbh. i just quickly Brian burst them, or if im playing zealot then ill just one tap them with my revolver 👍

[lapis bay]

Bit of a hot take but I think that's kinda okay, otherwise shield would be hilariously OP with combat regen stacks. Maybe partial damage block? Or spec into full bulwark mode

[quaint mortar]

although, pretty sure they do based on this teaser image

[lapis bay]

Oh shid it do look blocked

[languid tusk]

I just thought it would be funny if shield follows general block rule lol

I don't know how it works 😄 just speculation on my part

[lapis bay]

Did they confirm if bullets go one way? or if it's complete blockage?

[languid tusk]

if it's complete blockage shield psyker becomes the evolved form of shield ogryn

[upper galleon]

I hope shield behaves like medic tf2 shield does in MvM

[languid tusk]

even more obstruction protection

[feral inlet]

its most definitely blockage

[upper galleon]

Where it still has offensive utility in some way

[feral inlet]

since the vet is clearly shooting through

in the image

[olive ember]

stop coping

no way you can shield bash with iht

[still hearth]

Damn that would be beyond nutty.

[upper galleon]

In some way

Not every way

[still hearth]

Battle medic??

When???

Fatshark????

[upper galleon]

Like maybe a feat to soulblaze enemies who walk through shield

[languid tusk]

maybe psyker gets special ability to conver peril into party healing

[feral inlet]

if zealot book has some healing to it

that's going to be pretty funny

[still hearth]

Only through Faith can your wounds heal

[upper galleon]

Zealot book tree just heals corruption afaik

No HP heals

[cyan notch]

deflector res

[languid tusk]

healing corruption is pretty good imo

[still hearth]

[upper galleon]

Or like, a feat that reduces shield duration but it disintegrates trash mobs that run through it, stuff like that but it's a pipe dream and fatshark has different ideas than me

[still hearth]

What if

[lapis bay]

Healing corruption OP imo, imagine having a kamikaze specc'd psyker and a corrupt heals zealot

[still hearth]

Shield Staff

[still hearth]

Now you're thinking with portals.

But then again

Kamikaze spec?

[upper galleon]

Idk if banisher will fix fully corrupted wounds or if those will remain locked off

[lapis bay]

LOL just go all wounds and perilbomb, have the vet run raise ally speed trinkets

[olive ember]

I’m hoping they changed corruption healing to just healing

[upper galleon]

No please no

[olive ember]

Corruption healing is fucking useless

[indigo portal]

That veteran in the image is clearly holding a gun, probably will allow you to shoot out of it.

[languid tusk]

corruption healing + holy fervour

[still hearth]

Yes

[languid tusk]

immortal build

[still hearth]

Make us take corruption resist

[upper galleon]

No healing class

[still hearth]

So we can play at full HP

[upper galleon]

I'm already iffy on the existence of HR but that is on cooldown and only on one person

[olive ember]

No one takes corruption resist because corruption is a meme outside grimoires

Unless you are willingly eating poxbursters or some shit

So why would I spec into a class that heals corruption

[upper galleon]

Actual healing would make them revolve around the meta and then you have healer mains playing like trash cause muh healing

[olive ember]

I am a healer main smh

[indigo portal]

There's a massive difference of in value of spending 1 skill point to passively heal corruption or spending 1/9th to a 1/3rd of your curio slots to just resist corruption.

[upper galleon]

Poxwalker hits, hounds, cspawn munch BoN puke grimiore

[still hearth]

So you mean nothing will change because bad people are already playing bad?

[cyan notch]

shooters now have corruption bullets WHAT NOW

[still hearth]

I'd rather have a bad healer than a bad Vet dying every 10 steps

[upper galleon]

And it's coherency for your whole team

[still hearth]

[olive ember]

Lmao I fucking stg

Shield ogryn meta?

[upper galleon]

No it's bad cause then every team revolves around rolling a healer just like how every team revolves around vet now

[olive ember]

That’s a lie tho?

I don’t recall VT2 revolving around healers despite having healers as an option

[upper galleon]

So the healing numbers would be so low it would be irrelevant?

The one healer I remember in vt2

[still hearth]

Just play 4-man Zealots

As the Emperor intended.

[upper galleon]

Was waystalker, which slowly ticked only up to half hp

[indigo portal]

I think if it's a coherency aura it'd be well balanced in power. A good team is only gonna get like ~100-150 total corruption healed throughout an entire mission, but anything less than a good team (pubs for example) could go as high as 300-400 total corruption healed.

[still hearth]

Most corruption you should take is probably from being downed

So just don't get downed

[cyan notch]

i have never gotten downed

[indigo portal]

I think it has pretty reasonable value, especially when people might have access to HR levels of stuff that's only hindered by corruption.

[upper galleon]

Corruption healing is much easier to balance and I don't think they are gonna have it clear wounds

They might tho

[still hearth]

Another hit for wounds players

[quaint mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-win-gif-18390652

[still hearth]

They never catch Ws

[languid tusk]

that's because ammo are scarce and there are plenty of engagements where you need to shoot things

[indigo portal]

If it clears wounds it'd be quite strong.

[upper galleon]

Good wound players just catch Ds

[languid tusk]

if ammo was everywhere vets would not be so sought after

[upper galleon]

So is health, health is scarce for a reason

[olive ember]

corruption resist healing is how you kill a class

[still hearth]

I mean I can easily play games without Vets

[olive ember]

no one even bothers to take corruption resist on their curios

[still hearth]

But Veterans make the hard parts easy

[olive ember]

why the fuck would they invest their entire class into corruption resist then

they don't

[upper galleon]

It's literally why that fucking ammo supply mission is a pain in the dick cause it has a terrible stretch of 1 temporary Medicae until the finale 3 sections away

[upper galleon]

I mean, outside of gunner and sniper

[still hearth]

DT is like D&D

1 HP or more = full power

Just go

👍

[upper galleon]

Corruption resistance is the next best thing and I run 1 on vet and psyker just for grim missions happening

[cyan notch]

just take health

[still hearth]

Or toughness

[upper galleon]

Oh wow you don't say smart ass

[still hearth]

Or stamina

Or curio chance

[upper galleon]

My vet doesn't need a 3rd sniper curio or a gunner curio at all

[languid tusk]

health + health + corruption resist + thoughness regen

[cyan notch]

curio chance is for poor people

[languid tusk]

makes you almost immortal

[upper galleon]

So my last curio is HP. Toughness HP corruption resist

[still hearth]

How could you betray us like this

[languid tusk]

perfection

[still hearth]

Then again I run 3 HP curios on Zealot and people call me crazy.

[olive ember]

you disgust me

fucking corruption resist

[cyan notch]

t3

not perfection

[upper galleon]

Cause 3x toughness is wack

[regal jasper]

I’ve never been downed

[upper galleon]

EWEW scales insanely well

[cyan notch]

same

[regal jasper]

I dc too quickly

[still hearth]

I just don't get hit until I do and lose 250 HP

What can ya do

I mean EWEW gets a 67% boost with maxed out toughness curios I think. Idk if they fixed it or its still 8.33% instead of what it should be as well

But also running EWEW and not glorious crit DR

Idk what it is but I just die more with toughness than with HP

[cyan notch]

that shit def getting fixed

[still hearth]

It makes no sense but it works

[languid tusk]

if you ever need to carry 4 grimoires to extraction

[still hearth]

When you roll into +15 Corruption Resistance

Okay

Enough memes for today

[cyan notch]

just carry the grims

ez

[still hearth]

I prefer to play my game at grayscale

Just do it

[upper galleon]

Did they fix grimiore resistance? Thought it was bugged and did nothing

[olive ember]

No fucking clue

Someone go test

[hollow current]

I think they did when I ran it ages ago before the Auric update.

[upper galleon]

I remember there was a time where every resistance that applied to a specific corruption applier didn't work

But plain corruption resistance did for all of them

[olive ember]

Idk I never took corruption res so

[upper galleon]

It matters on psyker and vet helps you avoid losing your only wound to a teammate blowing a burster mid leap or getting puked on or

Just breathing room cause I don't need 3 sniper or a single gunner curio on my vet

[potent echo]

vt2 had a healer?

[upper galleon]

Waystalker had a feat that made her slow healing overtime below half hp apply to all her team

[potent echo]

oh that aura

[hollow current]

Also sister of thorn had the temp hp thing I recall.

[potent echo]

unchained had living bomb

merc had shout

[upper galleon]

Temp HP isn't a heal for DT terms, it would be more like toughness

[hollow current]

ranger vet bardin and smoke bawm

[olive ember]

i almost never have more corruption than my wound unless I went down ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper galleon]

Lucky u

[olive ember]

Idk that requires you to eat like 2 bursters

Wtf are you or your teammates doing at that point

[upper galleon]

Summons the poxburster conga line

[cyan notch]

temp hp was a heal

[upper galleon]

Idk I'm rambo'ing and doing my best

[upper galleon]

Yes but if you are trying to convert it to what a fuckin heal in Darktide would be

Toughness is the mechanical replacement for THP

[hollow current]

the amount of times I obviously approach a burster to shove/deal with it and a teammate from across the map starts shooting at it.

[upper galleon]

I call it out in vc if im going for a shove

If I fuck it up it's just my fault

[cyan notch]

then waystalker isnt a dt heal either

[upper galleon]

Waystalker is literally healing overtime

Cause it heals your HP bar with undecaying green hp

[cyan notch]

u get health just like u get temp health from shouts

[hollow current]

I go by it's whoever's closests to it's problem. That said if it's far enough away I'll try to deal with them if I can until a teammate starts moving towards it.

[cyan notch]

they are functionally the same except one decays

[upper galleon]

This is so stupid you made me get out of bed

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-gif-23442156

Fuck u

❤️

[gusty furnace]

Everyone hated Kerillian when she ran the life gain feat

Everyone = Zealot Saltzpyre

[hollow current]

lmao yeah zealots would get big mafd

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/bbc-fried-rice-humorous-uncle-gif-18579231

[upper galleon]

Ahh yes the bad zealots raging and asking me to be kicked

Tbh I had good zealots who were chill with it which sounds more reasonable

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, the ones who didn't care would intentionally trade hits with slave rats

[upper galleon]

Cause it ticks so slowly and it's not hard to take damage in vt2

[gusty furnace]

Cause they were smart

God that's a weird thing to say

But that's ZealotPyre for you

[upper galleon]

Idk I took it cause my build already had a ton of uptime on my ability and in my head healing my entire team is 3x boost while just increasing my heal is just a 2x boost

[cyan notch]

idk if waystalker heals then shouts heal too theyre the same thing

[upper galleon]

Temp HP isn't green hp thanks for (not) listening

[gusty furnace]

I still think Darktide needs individual heals

[cyan notch]

theyre functionally the same

[hollow current]

Darktide needs stims/pots like Vermintide.

[upper galleon]

Yee I wouldn't mind situational heals, like HR but a bit toned down

[fierce crest]

it wants to be a combat axe

[gusty furnace]

How you make a L4D clone and abandon consumables, I have no idea

[cyan notch]

unlike toughness/health

[upper galleon]

Honestly I like class nades more than how VT2 is just bomb, and fire bomb

[fierce crest]

to be fair there are grenades

[hollow current]

I wonder if the update will give zealot the choice of the fire nade again.

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kiss-kirby-kiss-kirby-super-star-kirby-super-star-kiss-gif-25332268

[gusty furnace]

That's what people have been saying

along with throwing knives

I think the throwing knives are going to be mad pointless

[upper galleon]

For the sake of my sanity I'm not going to talk to you ever again blood

[gusty furnace]

Granted, I was no playtester

[upper galleon]

They might be good seekers

Who knows

[olive ember]

zealot iirc the rumors are you get an incendiary grenade, a stun grenade, and a throwing knife

[feral inlet]

"the rumors"

the fucking skill tree thats visible and inspectable :

[olive ember]

look

[feral inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031671658282483766/1152674315909746698/ezgif-1-5b5167c223.gif

[olive ember]

idr

[cyan notch]

are they gonna have magic throwing knife retrievals

[olive ember]

thats psyker isn't it

with mind shards

or wte the fuck

[upper galleon]

Like you can mark prio targets with mind shards

Or I hope so

[olive ember]

isn't mind shards supposed to be horde clear

[upper galleon]

But then that might just make them better BBs

Ohh maybe

[lucid terrace]

Where force greatsword

[gusty furnace]

That'll be a weird one.

Trauma Staff already deletes hordes

[olive ember]

I forget is smite supposed to be the grenade ability or the ulti

[near bluff]

there is no skill tree in the darktide coop game

[gusty furnace]

That's like. . . the last thing Psyker needs.

I guess its a niche utility tool for Surge Staff?

[hollow current]

Talent where surge prioritizes specials and elites. copium

[feral inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-stop-stop-right-there-stop-it-talk-to-the-hand-gif-12345343

[gusty furnace]

It already does

With extreme prejudice

[olive ember]

idk if I can play psyker without BB tho

[upper galleon]

I hope they take off some cc power off lightning and make it more of an anti armor swarm killer

[hollow current]

oh shid. it just never felt like it.

[olive ember]

especially since none of the staves are particularly super far ranged

besides memstrike but we don't talk about that

[hollow current]

talent where stairs no longer cripple Trauma please

[olive ember]

did they fix that?

idr

[upper galleon]

Like, exponentially grow stronger the more armor it hits like, turning crusher into basically a Tesla coil kinda in my head

[feral inlet]

nope

they should make trauma's hitbox on stairs just

be a ramp

that cant be hard to implement

maybe they will

[hazy locust]

Chris Redfield?

[feral inlet]

jason goldstriker; sam hyde's "persona" in fishtank

[languid tusk]

demonic purgatus staff

[cyan notch]

worst staff

[regal jasper]

@fresh halo

[fresh halo]

Yeaahh

[regal jasper]

Peg leg

[fresh halo]

My four Psyker looks

[regal jasper]

They look cool as fuck

[fresh halo]

Thanks !

[regal jasper]

Nice jacket choice on the first one too

[fresh halo]

Second one is barebone, last one is just to flex, so I don't use these often.

First one is the one I use the most, closely followed by the third.

[regal jasper]

Nice!

[hazy locust]

my psyker look.. i found the last bottle of bleach.

[faint sigil]

are we posting fashion? i want to post fashion

[plucky flax]

@fresh halo get them leather trousers swag bro

[fresh halo]

I love those pants !

[plucky flax]

They fit the leather jacket perfectly.

It's from the set with the weird helmet I think.

[regal jasper]

I like all of these

[regal jasper]

That jacket is the best in the game

There is a meme out there that has a payker that looks almost the exact same as mine

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's my fav cosmetic from all characters.

The zealot and ogryn gucci goggles are close second.

[fresh halo]

Sadly, I am a vet main, for he's my boi across games

[cyan notch]

[plucky flax]

Leather hat swag but the veil is kinda weird.

[fresh halo]

Was that hat ever sold ?

Oh, nvm

Guess not

[plucky flax]

No it's unreleased/unfinished.

[fresh halo]

Yeah, figured by the broken file text

[plucky flax]

Zealot gimp mask 💀

[fresh halo]

I'd wear that-

[hazy locust]

zed's dead..

[plucky flax]

It actually goes hard.

Gimping your way against heretics.

[fresh halo]

Those were some that I had in my radar (unsure if it's okay to post, so used spoiler)

Can you tell I have a soft spot for gas masks ?

And bomber vests

Also I know the vest was already sold at some point, hoping it comes back

[plucky flax]

The vet jacket is available.

[regal jasper]

First one fire as hell

[fresh halo]

I know !

[plucky flax]

Ah yeah I don't understand their decision of not keeping the premium skins always available.

[fresh halo]

Right ?

[fresh halo]

FOMO

[regal jasper]

I love cosmetics

[fresh halo]

Same, I am a sucker for fashion.

[regal jasper]

You my friend should try warframe

[fresh halo]

I have so many hours in D2 dedicated to fashion, it's insane.

[fresh halo]

Was playing Warframe prior to being burnt out from it, so I went and tried D2

[regal jasper]

Fair enough

Cross save coming out soon

Im way excited

[plucky flax]

Knowing FS if they ever manage to make darktide 2 I bet all the darktide 1 skins we bought won't be carried over.

[regal jasper]

Soon ill be free from shitty switch graphics

[regal jasper]

Maybe if we are really sweet and nice

Good boys and girls and theys

[fresh halo]

Good boys, gals, and non-binary pals.

[regal jasper]

Yeah that

[fresh halo]

[hazy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-taking-notes-notes-michael-j-fox-im-writing-this-down-gif-16242461

[fresh halo]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-back-to-the-future-bttf-marty-mcfly-ive-seen-this-one-gif-19802188

[regal jasper]

You should add me to the game

A single Sloppity bilepiper

[fresh halo]

Has anyone ever played Defiance ?

[regal jasper]

Like make his spawn as rare as jimmy gibs

[fresh halo]

Old game, dead servers so it's in the forever box now

But damn, I loved my gas masks in this.

[regal jasper]

I don’t think I’ve heard of it before

[fresh halo]

Good stuff

[regal jasper]

Oh cool

[fresh halo]

It's pretty old, and sadly its servers have been shutdown because the company behind it got bought and the game was killed by corporate greed, which caused an uproar in the community and playerbase, which ended up with the company pulling the plug.

[regal jasper]

Damn

[fresh halo]

Classic tale of corporate greed.

[regal jasper]

Yeah

Corporations gotta stop getting greedy

Before i have to step in

[fresh halo]

I mean, the company that was keeping it afloat prior was also greedy as hel.

So it was only a matter of time.

[regal jasper]

Damn that sucks

I hate when good games get ruined by greed

[fresh halo]

Ehh, it wasn't good.

It was a kinda janky third-person shooter.

[regal jasper]

Ah

[fresh halo]

But nostalgia fixes stuff like that with the good times I spent on it with a clan.

Good pals, the lots of 'em.

Lost contact with them after me being younger and having problems, and that was that.

But they were good folks.

I hope they're still doing good, even without DEFI.

[regal jasper]

Yeah

I love playing games with nostalgia

[patent steeple]

am I the only one who has seen surge staff psykers that run AB in Auric missions? my first ever Auric mission completion was thanks to some surge staff AB psyker who just kept stunlocking the hordes at Deep Archives.

we did not need to use any ammo for that last part thanks to it, also it was dark so the lightning actually let us see something.

[upper galleon]

it's not optimal cause purge and blazing trauma exists

you usually want KB on surge staff because the surge staff build is to Illisi+BB as much as possible

[patent steeple]

btw, I just fully upgraded this trauma for a blaze build because why not (yes, I know the charge speed is garbage, but I kinda had no better trauma staff available that wasn't the one I don't use blaze builds with...)

what should I swap for what?

[upper galleon]

specialist for flak or maniac

rending shockwave for warp nexus

uhh

you need warp nexus with blazing trauma

so keep the meh perks

warp nexus is needed

Gain 2-5% and 8-20% Critical Chance based on current level of peril.

[gusty furnace]

Rending Shockwave to Warp Nexus, Specialists to Flak

[cyan notch]

specialist to flak and rending shockwave to warp nexus

[spice oar]

is that a peg leg?

[hollow current]

this upsets me because it's obvious the leather pants fit with the jacket extremely well whereas the shitty red pants it comes with seem like an intentional move to brick the rest of the outfit and make people spend more aquilas.

[plucky flax]

It's FartShart.

[smoky orbit]

swaping Warp Nexus for Rending Shockwave and crit chance for flack, sounds good?

[hollow current]

flak ain't bad, maybe try unarmored tho since they got more hp than the flak shooters

[smoky orbit]

ok, ty

[faint sigil]

yes 🦜

[spice oar]

nice

[upper galleon]

blazing was already modified

[gusty furnace]

Oh

then rip that whole staff

[upper galleon]

i mean it is salvagable for psykers first blazing trauma

but still

[hollow current]

charge rate is ass anyways so it wasn't an exceptional staff to start with.

[calm ibex]

is this drip approved by the lex?

[harsh salmon]

i am now level 30 what should i focus on getting gold first, melee or staff?

[teal needle]

shredder autopistol getting a decent illisi will go pretty far while you're learning and gearing up

[idle aurora]

I almost never see people with this headpiece, but IMO it looks great with this armor.

[still pelican]

wanna try something other than shooty staff... advice?

[hazy locust]

nice pull on the new staff, its all playstyle, personally I don't ever really hunt the modifiers on enermy types, i prefer outright stat boosts

but mileage may vary

and I'm in no way the clutchest clutcher who ever sweated.

but for enjoyments sake, i really like crit chance and crit damage

[gusty furnace]

Terrifying Barrage isn't amazing.

Purgatus Staff already does the whole flamer thing where it suppresses enemies just by touching them

Warp Nexus is about the only other choice on Purgatus though, instead of TB

[gusty furnace]

If only crit damage weren't calculated so weirdly. Same as with weakspot damage

[harsh urchin]

you want to leapfrog your progression to just try to get stronger overall

What I would recommend is first picking a build and trying to get melee + ranged with good stats and ignore the blessings/perks for now

After you have 2 good base weapons, I would try to utilize your 2 crafts per weapon to get the most impactful perks/blessings for them

At that point, you'll have solid enough base gear, and there's 3 paths from there on out:

1. Curios
2. Work on more optimized weapons for current build
3. Different weapons for new builds

Your choice on how you want to play the game-

[still pelican]

Thanks for the feedback @hazy locust and @gusty furnace

[reef island]

juust got my psyker to 30, dont have any good weapons yet, is this worth buying from melk?

[spice veldt]

not particularly

1. Achlys is the worst combat axe out of the bunch (Rashad being marginally better than the Antax)
2. Perks are mediocre and Shred isn't particularly good on combat axes, esp as Psyker

i'd be tempted to pick it up in hopium for the october 4 patch, though that's only because i'm sitting on a fat pile of milk bottles

[still pelican]

what about feats for these weapons as a build?

[real lion]

fire or lightning staff

[gusty furnace]

I'm going to throw myself out the fucking window I swear to god

all I fucking want is a staff that's somewhat equivalent to this

so I can try out the fucking crit build

but no, fatshark says "tier 3 warp nexus so they're the same exact fucking staff"

What an absolute failure of a crafting system

Pretty sure the only way I'm going to get an upgrade over my current staff is find a blue in brunts armor with Tier 3 or 4 flak, and blazing spirit on it, that's a ~370+ with an acceptable dump stat: IE Quell speed

And holy fuck is that just not a fun process to think about, let alone waiting around for

[hollow current]

Anyone ever have the docket calculation go nuts? Trying to figure out how this one game from a month ago I got almost 160k from a 80k~ missions. +30% from curios and no quickplay bonus unless it bugged out.
https://i.imgur.com/GfL2Neq.jpg

[indigo portal]

I don't believe it bugs out ever. Some missions with big modifiers just have hefty amounts of ordo dockets attached.

95k seems pretty normal for a +30% boost from curios.

[rocky cedar]

I mean that charge rate upgrade will definitely be felt

[hollow current]

But I got 159,200 from it.

[gusty furnace]

no, that first staff was one I pawned out of brunts greys

[indigo portal]

Do you recall the mission? Again seems normal still for +30%.

[gusty furnace]

the second staff is the one I have currently

[rocky cedar]

Ah

[hollow current]

The exact mission I don't remember other than the base pay being around 84k

[gusty furnace]

Fatshark has made the system impossible to use to actually BUILD weapons 😭

You just gamble until you get a good one

[rocky cedar]

5% crit chance won't make the biggest difference honestly, stressing about getting fully optimal versions of weapons of just self harm

[gusty furnace]

and that's that

I just wanted to try it

And I can't even fucking do that

[hollow current]

I do remember double checking my cash after the mission and it did go up by 160k for sure so it wasn't a visual bug.

[rocky cedar]

5% crit chance doesn't make the build suddenly not work

[indigo portal]

Oh, you can see it in that image. The special condition gave +63k ordo dockets on top of the base pay being 95k.

[gusty furnace]

That's not my point

[rocky cedar]

Like I get the frustration, I really do, but it's silly to pretend and extra 5% crit chance is build defining

[gusty furnace]

My point is I want to TRY it

And I can't

[rocky cedar]

It's the same build

Minorly less optimal

You are trying the build

Blazing spirit + warp nexus essentially is the build

[indigo portal]

You're missing the point, lack of freedom to try it out is the issue here.

Applies in general, but here they want to try out the 5% crit chance, even if it isn't build defining (depends on the weapon, haven't been paying attention).

[rocky cedar]

Perks aren't build defining, so all you're trying is the same thing with slightly higher numbers

Like playstyle doesn't change

Again I get the frustration, but framing it like you're missing out on a build looks kinda odd in context

[hollow current]

Yeah I failed to get a proper a screenshot but the numbers are in the background inside the red box as you saw lol. Had to mess with the colors to make it a little easier to notiuce

[indigo portal]

Yeah and is there anything wrong with that? Who cares if the numbers give you a couple breakpoints or it allows you to proc Blazing Spirit 16% more often, having control is the issue there. Not the "oh it's not build defining part". That's irrelevent to the complaint rn.

[rocky cedar]

Missing out on a build is when you upgrade 50 weapons and you still don't get blazing spirit

THAT is genuinely heinous

[hollow current]

I still think something broke or bugged out. Never got more than 110k or at least that I noticed since. I think people were alt F4'ing and rejoining to revive themselves but idk how tha would mess with the money.

[indigo portal]

Yeah that looks normal. I think I did a mission recently with similar numbers, idk why you think it's a bug lol.

It's just a big money mission.

Got big bones and all that.

[hollow current]

Because as I understand without any curios, the base mission pay is split between ordo dockets and special condition. So the total ought not be more than 1.3 the base pay assuming you didn't quickplay which I'm very positive I didn't do in that mission. And even if I did, the total would be closer to 120k from an 84k~ mission.

[indigo portal]

95k + 63k is about 158k. Looks like you did a mission with a high special condition modifier, like a Maelstrom or something.

[hollow current]

Yeah I almost entirely do Auric Maelstrom, but I've never seen a higher base pay than 84k~

I forgot what the mission type is exactly but I think it's the monstrous specials + maybe nurgles blessing?

[indigo portal]

Yeah that explains it then, that's pretty normal for Auric Maelstrom. Modifiers stack up and on Damnation you'll get a big payout.

[hollow current]

This is what a normal 84k~ reward from that looks like with +30% dockets. Can't be sure it was the exact same condition. tho but I'm all but certain it was the same advertised dockets.

[spice veldt]

hmm just looking at the end screen of my last few missions, I have 19950 base dockets at the mission end reward screen

maybe +dockets% gives more than it should?

or was this a one-time occurrence

i probably should read the entire convo

[hollow current]

For the most part it seems to calculate correctly. Maybe off by a few thousand at worst. But I've only caught that weird outcome once.

[spice veldt]

i have some games where i have slightly more than 19950 base dockets but none as large as 45k

[hollow current]

These are Auric Maelstroms.

[spice veldt]

i'm aware

but it should only read 19950 by Ordo Dockets:

since 19950 is the default reward for damnation

[hollow current]

Yours dispense 19950 in the docket section?

I don't think mine ever has.

[spice veldt]

this part

[hollow current]

Yeah.

[spice veldt]

i don't run any dockets% for reference

[hollow current]

I guess I'll run a mission on a character without dockets rq and see if it says that.

[spice veldt]

i've gotten 21945 at most in the recent 10-ish games that I've checked

with 19950 being the standard

this is what a monster mael (the one without burgle) looks like

[spice veldt]

oops nvm i'm stupid; those 21945 instances are just from quickplay

[hollow current]

Just got 19950 so I guess the docket curios change up the amount in that section and split it up in a funny way.

[olive ember]

I miss having competent teammates in quickplay

[upper galleon]

purge staff= no need crit perk cause 5% on top of warp nexus just for double stacking basically doesn't do anything to large or small units

trauma staff= need crit perk because the build only works while critting

my brain logic

[viscid matrix]

double stacking will help reach 31 before stuff dies, and then the prolif can cause everything to get a tonne of SB stacks when you kill a target, up to a maximum that the one that dies have

[spice veldt]

15 is the max cap for a purg with >76% burn

the only application methods that apply up to 31 stacks are wrack & ruin and ascendant blaze

and wildfire has some unlisted behavior

[upper galleon]

I run wild fire it's not worth it

5% more double stacks< 25% more damage to prio targets that your flames will tick more on+ no purge staff sources have a cap

Trauma relies on crits, so I think that is a fair perk to take but purge doesn't need it I'll link math again

#psyker-class message

[true lake]

i prefer to run warp battery given how easily you can get warp charges with the build, it just benefits me more in the long run to have that extra damage nearly all the time

[upper galleon]

simply put, things that are lower HP you will spray on will die quickly so the double stacks don't matter, and bigger things that do stay alive still stop at 15 stacks and 5% isn't gonna increase how quick it is to apply those 15 stacks

[true lake]

all you really need is ascendant blaze and psychic communion, rest kind of handles itself from there given how much you kill

[upper galleon]

WB for normal damnation, wildfire for damn+

[true lake]

wildfire is useful for some extra damage for the absolute highest gameplay ye

[upper galleon]

wildfire, like the rumbler, is ass until enemy density is so thick that you end up lighting a sniper on fire

Also I don't take communion, even tho it is a great as hell

I take the 15% cdr on elite kill

[true lake]

i dont use my ability much admittedly or i would take that

probably more useful in higher difficulties though

[upper galleon]

yee it's great, basically lets you ignore peril, tho you might have to take time BB some trash if you have a lot of trash clearers in your party

but at 100% peril, it has massive range and force

[spice veldt]

i have an extremely greedy playstyle so i usually get enough elite/special kills to make it more than worth it

the stagger of the ult is very nice for pushing into ranged patrols

or saving yourself from dogs

[true lake]

i just like having my warp charges at max a lot because i usually play lower difficulty and its fun to chew through everything with my deimos

[upper galleon]

yee, purge in auric/auric maelstrom is just, by the time the melee trash is all dead, so will the ranged stuff from wildfire exposure

[true lake]

i just dont want to touch auric much because i dont really see the point at the moment

whenever you get to the point you can safely play it, there isnt really any reason to play it anymore because materials and money isnt really used for much other than upgrading equipment

and there arent any achievements or penances for auric

[upper galleon]

good for dockets

for the top tier recolors of sets

[spice veldt]

i pretty much only play it with premades

[true lake]

i guess but dont really need dockets when you already got all the equipment you need, most of the commissary is crap imo

[spice veldt]

otherwise I just stick with hishock for grinding

[upper galleon]

green veteran and blue zealot recolors are pretty nice

[spice veldt]

I'm always in need in dockets since I've spent most of my money on traumas and illisis

it's easy enough to get good enough equipment, but there are some breakpoints that I would like to hit more easily

[true lake]

idk just would be nice to have something else to strive for than just recolored penance clothing

[spice veldt]

though there will be some balance changes with the oct 4 patch so I've just been stockpiling it

[true lake]

same

[spice veldt]

it'll be a shame to see my braindead playstyles go away

[cyan notch]

midfire

[hollow current]

I've amassed a small treasury. But I know the moment I start gambling at brunts I'll only get a worthy weapon every 500k spent, maybe 250k if I'm lucky. And that's before Hadron decides to make a brick of whatever I get.

[topaz hedge]

crafting is basically free rn tho. So if you have any grays lying around you can just consecrate it to see what you’d get

[spice veldt]

for hadron but not from brunt's

[hollow current]

Upgrading from 95% perfect to 100% perfect won't change anything anyways. Maybe a slightly better sprinting speed for my deimos.

Not even that lmao I just did a test from 100 to 0 stam. I'd get 1-2 meters further. going from +0.15 sprint speed to +0.27.

[cyan notch]

spam dodge faster and doesnt cost stamina

[hollow current]

I mean in actual practice, yeah. But I was trying to compare the speed difference between the two weapons where one had a bit better mobility stat.

[plucky flax]

I run wildfire every time I play purg or blaze trauma.

Always winning.

[broken carbon]

its fun tho

[gilded radish]

Would the max anount of dockets be 25 million?

[cyan notch]

should be 5m

[fading galleon]

it's 25mil now

in case you had 5 characters with 5 mil each when they made the shared wallet lol

[gilded radish]

Why cant it unlimited

Iam close to having 15 million already

[fading galleon]

dunno

[fierce crest]

Playing a game for fun?

The fact that there isn't a grind unless you want (usually) minor optimizations in the end game is so nice

[regal jasper]

Hi hank

[regal jasper]

):

[grizzled jasper]

):

[regal jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[magic hull]

A HOUND APPROACHES (for a friendly cuddle)

[gilded radish]

The grind too reach 1 million heretic kills to get the hardest frame

[golden frigate]

i think that completing 1.5k missions is going to take me more than 1 million kills tbh

[fierce crest]

yeah but

thats just funny acheevmints

theres minimal grind for gameplay access

[hard pulsar]

we all know this one is gonna take the longest

[golden frigate]

well

[steel egret]

Kill all different types of dreg penance will take longest for me

Because fatshark would need to fix it

[languid tusk]

it's fun though

many targets, many shooting, much fun

[hidden crystal]

I still think it's a good thing there aren't any particularly special prizes for auric or maelstrom, because it stops people trying to run them other than because they want to.

[languid tusk]

for surge staff is there any breakpoint you gain with +unarmored ?

or should I go + carapace to capitalize on the strength of the surgestaff ?

[plucky flax]

Go flak crit chance for big flak damage

[stable leaf]

I personally use the surge staff as the anti crusher tool so i prefer carapace damage

[plucky flax]

Hrm interesting. I use surge with kinetic barrage and the psyker's aura so against crushers pack I just spam bb on them.

[languid tusk]

it depends how you use the surge

if you try to get max charge surge than carapace is worth

if you use min charge surge for the chain stun then its not worth imo

[mossy surge]

You have your personal yelling Zealot with a kant shotgun for that

[languid tusk]

why not bolter

[mossy surge]

cause its slow

zealot ult turns cara to flak anyways

for ranged dmg

[plucky flax]

Dats op mane

[mellow gorge]

Prenerf flamer with zealot ult would evaporate crusher waves

Was thr funniest shit ever

[olive ember]

ngl thats not true, thats complete rng

again I spent like 10k plasteel just to get flurry on a fucking staff, imagine a new player, freshly leveled to 30, having to deal with that garbage

and then theres the curio roulette which still revolves around the old shop meta

literally afk simulator and coming back every hour

and then you realize that they also have to play brunt roulette to get decent stats on weapons, which matters big time depending on the weapon

[languid tusk]

brute force it with 30k milk tokens

you can do weekly quests with 5 different characters to stack up melk tokens then you can buy misterious defensive curio until you find stronk curio

[cyan notch]

yea thats just for 1 curio

[olive ember]

lmao just do weeklies on 5 different characters

[languid tusk]

yeah just sink 50 hours into darktide every week, ez pz

[olive ember]

I didn't realize I was playing WoW

world raider level

[languid tusk]

what are you, casul ?

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

anyways speaking about weeklies and dailies

gotta hop on ffxiv

[cyan notch]

erp time

[olive ember]

I don't do ERP

I couldn't even if I wanted to cuz free trial player

[languid tusk]

what is erp ?

[olive ember]

er*tic role play

[lapis bay]

Emperor's Religious Penalization, where he condemns you constantly for 1 hour with a mean look and a scripture book in hand

[ancient latch]

do 20% toughness curios actually exist?

i see them in builds but over 300h ive never seen higher than 16%

[vestal fulcrum]

No, currently the max base Toughness you can get on a curio is 17%

And up to 22% if it has a perk with +Toughness%

[olive ember]

max hp is 21% max toughness is 17% max stam is +3 max wounds is +1

[languid tusk]

why only +1 wound

i want +6wounds build smh

[magic hull]

Finally got meself a warp nexus lvl 4

[crude trout]

do you guys know if the Duelling sword has increase move speed when charging up a heavy attack, similar to how it is with the knife?

[gilded radish]

Nope never used it

[magic hull]

nope

[crude trout]

yeah I think im tired because when I tried in meatgrinder it seems to have some?

[magic hull]

I do enjoy using knife more though, got me out of sticky sittuation, its like stamina cheat code

[crude trout]

yeah me too! found it useful to reposition too because of the fast movespeed

[magic hull]

knife psyker united

[spice veldt]

there is a minor speed boost when attacking but you move slower while holding your heavy, unlike with the knife

[magic hull]

knife goes suprisingly well with purge, i try to close the distance with gunners

[spice veldt]

there's the movement analyzer mod if you want to check it out for yourself https://github.com/danreeves/darktide-mods/tree/main/MovementAnalyzer

[crude trout]

thanks for this!

[spice veldt]

dan reeves being raindish, aka the creator of numericui

[cyan notch]

brother of keanu reeves

[languid tusk]

why knife tho

pretty much any melee weapon goes well with purge

[upper galleon]

Yee force sword spam dodge is probably better for closing the gap too

[languid tusk]

dueling sword is pretty good as well

zooms around almost as fast as knoife

[near wyvern]

@languid tusk knife has absolutely the best mobility in the game, purge being mostly limited by it's range makes it a good pair

But even then Deimos is just better. A little bit less mobility than a duelling sword or knife but you get unlimited dodges and the ability to one shot mutants.

Also access to deflector if you want to be truly aggressive or need training wheels.

[languid tusk]

if deflector had the ability to block unblockable attacks it would be my favourite perk for trolling lol

just stack stamina and block efficiency and block literally the whole map

pull every room at once

[upper galleon]

Knife is not a good pair unless you aren't falling into the bleed or crit trap

Executor+uncanny so you can 3-4 shot crushers

Going cara maniac

[still hearth]

Knife gets you the best DoT build against bosses

[near wyvern]

Ehh

[near wyvern]

The only unblockable attacks in the game that I know of are:

• plogryn stomp
• flames
• explosions
• sniper (other than ogryn shield)

Just stack 3 stamina curios, slap a stamina tier 4 on your force sword and block away. Don't forget to roll block efficiency on those curios as well while you are at it.

Crusher and mauler overheads simply bleed through to health if you don't have enough to block it.

[spice veldt]

they're both unblockable and spillover attacks

the attacks with Block Bypass (and Non-standard) are unblockables in this link https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/

[upper galleon]

Traitor Captain shield blast

But zealots can slide through it

[thorn cedar]

yea since its raw toughness damage

which like, man, hard to do lmao

[hollow current]

83790 * 1.9 = 159,201 so maybe somehow in that mission my curio multiplier went from 1.3 to 1.9. Though I did get 159,200 in that match instead of 159,201 but this isn't the only instance I've noticed of the dockets being off by one or two in the payout versus the calculation.

[languid tusk]

I thought this was teh case but it seems it's not like this anymore

I can block crusher overhead only spend like 20% peril with my build, but it still does health damage if im not full thoughness

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's ignoring your block

your toughness is what's taking the brunt of it

if you get hit during a dodge, you'll get 50% toughnesss DR which does help
I forget if it correctly factors in the DR when calculating the spillover to your hp when your toughness breaks

260 damage, so you'll need at least 131 toughness to fully tank it with your toughness while dodging

a bit less if you have kinetic shield

[languid tusk]

just need 3x of this and overhead attack is the only thing I need to watch out for

and snipers, but snipers dont count

[steel flame]

Can you actually block bonbon's tail swipes? Huh never tried

[bold estuary]

does trauma staff blast can crit?

[mental rock]

yes

[bold estuary]

does crit build on trauma is viable?

[mental rock]

yes, although it requires some finesse if you want to be optimal

warp nexus + blazing, maintain high peril with quell cancels

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is the most op psyker build.

[empty onyx]

Every single time I get a "Complete 1 Mission without anyone dying" task I only ever end up in missions where someone dies. I should just start to reroll that one, it's bad luck.

[plucky flax]

It's sedition time.

[keen harbor]

what does a crit do on flame staff?

[queen fog]

I think it ups the damage of the initial damage and the DoT after

I could be wrong tho

[bold estuary]

newb psyker here , what is quell cancel?

[keen harbor]

You can cancel quel by not hitting R?

[queen fog]

U could swap weapons to cancel it but not sure if that’s the method

I feel like that’d be called quell swapping

[indigo portal]

Crits only affect the damage of the direct damage, and also applies 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of just one. It doesn't change the DoT damage at all.

[keen harbor]

okay, so the warp whatever its called with 5%-20% increase in crit chance does nothing, unless I want it to brain burst

[indigo portal]

The stacking is exponential damage for fire/soulblaze. Warp Nexus allows you to kill stuff faster because of it.

[keen harbor]

oh, that's what I'm missing

[indigo portal]

It's not a large damage increase, but it'll kill horde fodder slightly faster since they require 1-2 less ticks (~0.3-0.7 seconds of reduced TTK) and it'll allow you to ramp up damage faster on elites since you can get to max stacks faster.

You only need Warp Nexus though, don't take +Crit Chance. Doesn't add enough to be worth it over something like +Flak or +Unyielding.

[keen harbor]

yeah, I am using +flak

[magic hull]

personal preference. I perform it better than the dueling sword.

it's really nimble, pretty nice as assinating elites but not good with crowd control which is why i pair up with purge.

also:
should i swap out flak damage perk for crit chance perk for my purge?

[near wyvern]

yes you can

they will still have knock back tho

[indigo portal]

No. +Crit Chance doesn't provide enough value over the +25% damage perks.

Just keep +Flak Damage.

[fierce crest]

That's so sad

Crits are just damage by default

And even with something that gets bonus from crits

Other damage perks are better

[cyan notch]

cuz crit multipliers are all over the place and there are very few sources of crit chance

[upper galleon]

crit chance perk good on blazing spirit staffs, cause they need crits to function

crit chance perk bad on purge cause warp nexus gives all the crit you need and it barely does anything compared to 25% more damage

[indigo portal]

Yeah +Crit Chance is pretty nice on the Blazing Spirit staves.

[true lake]

need to rebuild my purgatus actually, should probably reroll for a new one and get those blessings instead

[indigo portal]

Procing effects more often is better than the raw damage in some cases.

[true lake]

right now my two blessings are kind of mid

[cyan notch]

i like crit chance on purg

[true lake]

which sucks because the staff has really good base stats

[upper galleon]

5% doesn't matter

you have warp nexus for crit chance

[true lake]

5% is relatively minimal in the long run

[cyan notch]

too bad i like it

i can gamble on max stacks in one burst

[true lake]

I guess lol but too unreliable

[plucky flax]

I also don't mind it.

It's good you kill stuff faster with it (against everything).

[cyan notch]

true and real and based

[plucky flax]

Real recognises real.

[cyan notch]

[plucky flax]

[analog agate]

Hilariously, as far as I can tell via a search, it is never explained by anyone. And mentioned a shit ton. I have 500 hours on psyker and have no clue if I do or don’t do it, because I have never seen the term explained haha. Even a google search doesn’t bring up an answer.

[cyan notch]

its some jank macro shit

i just disregard anything to do with it

[lunar hollow]

quell cancel is when you hit the quell key to cancel an animation before it finishes (which can be used to let you start the next cast faster)

there's a delay between cast times, and quell canceling lets you bypass it fairly considerably which helps if you're not running warp flurry (for stuff like a blazing spirit/nexus trauma) or spamming staff m1 bolts at stuff

[true lake]

it's basically that one mechanic in sea of thieves where people cancel the bucket animation to bail water quicker

[cyan notch]

just like qq cancelling

nobody actually does it

all macro’d

[scarlet timber]

will psyker

get a melee subclass guys?

or is it just staff class gun class support class?

[plucky flax]

It's the secret forbidden techniques mortals can't comprehend.

[cyan notch]

[scarlet timber]

cuz

i wonder guys

like i reallly really really like dueling swords

thats my favourite thing about spyker

the staves are whatever for me personaly

[cyan notch]

nobody knows

[scarlet timber]

except the playstesters i guess

i really wished dueling sword was avaialble ot otehr classes

[cyan notch]

or fatshark

[plucky flax]

Unkillable duelling sword memer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpQ5HnOCyQ0

[queen fog]

We’ll only know when big ol update drops

[scarlet timber]

you could do that with knife

and tac axed

and forceswords

or anyhting with 5 dodge count or above

[plucky flax]

No because those weapons don't have swag.

[scarlet timber]

if you care about swag then why non of you run it i never see a single psyker

with dueling sword

ever

its eitehr elissi or deimos

[plucky flax]

Well I do run it.

[scarlet timber]

hell i see more psykers with knife than duelign swords XSD

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM_UayzKRxc

[scarlet timber]

WHat blessings you run anyway?

i cant believe this got

no power blessings

[plucky flax]

Uncanny and shred.

[scarlet timber]

how many hits does it take you to kill crushers with?

[plucky flax]

I also use shovel with helbore on veteran.

Hrm around 5 or 6.