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feral inlet
had to dig a bit to find it again
plucky flax
Why not against dh too?
spice veldt
against DH, it deals 770 base damage
young ridge
had to dig a bit to find it again
thats a fat BONK
spice veldt
it's still good since the DH likes to move around, but I think spamming the illisi special might be competitive?
i never really compared them tbh
feral inlet
not worth the corruption for like
spice veldt
and no one wants cooties
feral inlet
a small increase of dps
young ridge
yeah its competitive for the dh in the sense that it gets to beat my ass
grizzled jasper
No balls is what I’m hearing 
spice veldt
a small increase of dps
i would never make terrible trades of my health for marginal increases of DPS
young ridge
and no one wants cooties
space aids
feral inlet
had to dig a bit to find it again
this was, i think, maybe 5 minutes after the patch came out?
maybe longer
so i was getting bodyslammed and didnt know what to do
spice veldt
thunder ham
plucky flax
@spice veldt you are correct this dude survives. 
With possibly very very little hp left.
Tested my trauma of 79% damage and 20% flak against all trash mobs.
young ridge
maybe if you had 80%
plucky flax
That's at 0% peril and 0 warp charges though.
So in a real game more than likely I am at higher peril + some warp charge and thus it's easily 1 shot.
young ridge
Always keep 6 charges minimum
plucky flax
Can't with wildfire. 
spice veldt
very sad
unique tiger
You guys think Flak would be the best perk to put on this staff?
lyric burrow
tbh im not sure whats better on surge between flak and crit chance
unique tiger
The numbers in the inspect tab make it seem like a crit vs flak is 569 while a normal body shot against flak is 495... So, 25% damage to flak would permanently be more damage than if it crit more?
gloomy gulch
this is sort of fun to use
unique tiger
@gloomy gulchWhy carapace for that sword?
gloomy gulch
just havent re rolled it
lyric burrow
why is everyone so fucking determined to not get on the elevator on the comms plex map after the first hacking event
unique tiger
lyric burrow
i swear i lose 1 or 2 teammates there everytime cause they are trying to get to the medicae or dicking around fighting everything and then go down in a horrendous spot
plucky flax
this is sort of fun to use
Yeah duelling sword is op.
olive ember
pls stop
plucky flax
Stop what?
gloomy gulch
lol
fresh reef
fresh reef
what're the good perks/blessings for this thing again?
haven't upgraded one in ages
lyric burrow
pretty sure rampage/uncanny is still the best
at least uncanny is
perks usual flak/maniac for me
plucky flax
I like shred uncanny. You don't use it for horde clear so no need for rampage. Also to activate rampage you have to push attack.
Perk is maniac + specialist if you want to 1 shot headshot flamers. Otherwise carapace or flak to synergy with uncanny.
lament topaz
Time to play lore accurate Mortarion in DT
autumn smelt
is it just me, or is playing as the only psyker in the group more fun?
fresh reef
very hyped for next patch lul
lyric burrow
Spent 300k on illisi didn't find a single 370+.
I spent like 1 mil gold and 12k plasteel on swords yesterday and didnt get anything if it makes you feel better
plucky flax
hidden crystal
why is everyone so fucking determined to not get on the elevator on the comms pl...
Oh gods. Yeah, that's been a disaster, to the point now I always watch to make sure noone runs off to the medicae on their own.
lyric burrow
Yeah i want to follow them its just such a bad spot esp when the people that dont follow die
Such an open area
Rest of the map is fine too
hidden crystal
There was one time someone wouldn't get in and then a burster leapt into the elevator while the rest of us were trying to provide cover fire.
lyric burrow
Yeah the spawn door right next to the elevator is brutal if your sitting there
lament topaz
Lore accurate Mortarion gameplay is not nearly as dreadful as I expected it
As in, only BBing anything Ogryn sized
Only pressing F on super low health
And never using the force charge on my sword
hidden crystal
That bit is terrible for wipes or near wipes, when in theory it's just a 50m walk from cogitator to elevator.
ocean tusk
Do the psykers like or hate hadron?
lament topaz
Yes
hidden crystal
The medicae being on the other side, right next to a spawn door and with the stairs usually throwing a load of elites between there and the exit, is terrible for splitting the team and people getting overwhelmed.
lament topaz
Before you ask, yes they yes
hidden crystal
Do the psykers like or hate hadron?
Anyone who's tried to craft more than two items hates Hadron.
lyric burrow
Yeah that was my inventory lol
All i want is one perfect illisi
I dont think ive gotten any perfect weapons 500 hours in
My vets axe might be perfect actually
rugged fiber
I'm 100hours in and I got one
but I think they recently upped the probability to get a good rating
lyric burrow
I have a ton of very good or near perfect weapons
But good stats + 2 t4 perks + 2 t4 blessings even if i have the blessings available has eluded me
plucky flax
Longest 3s Xd
lyric burrow
I will not lie im glad i found this discord watching people talk about the best stuff on illisi on reddit is giving me brain rot
Swap unstable 4 for executor 😭
Or that using the special to horde clear is bad
cosmic sigil
reddit is where people says psyker has no melee build
hidden crystal
Psyker proceeds to reduce an entire horde to mincemeat
cosmic sigil
Swap unstable 4 for executor 😭
i ran executor for a while, it was quite easy to proce it
lyric burrow
Its easy to proc but so is unstable and unstable gives you like 2 shot break points on mutants
Unstable + slaughterer is such an absurd power boost and executor drops easily iirc
Whereas i pretty much always have unstable up
cosmic sigil
never had a problem to maintain it
but yeah, unstable is better as a power blessing
lyric burrow
Even if you dont want unstable i think deflector would be next best
I might be confusing executor with a different blessing
upper galleon
you lose exec for a single body hit or a missed swing (including hit regs)
lyric burrow
Ok so i wasnt going insane
spice veldt
also drops on special activation
spice veldt
I will not lie im glad i found this discord watching people talk about the best ...
god damn lightspammers
lyric burrow
Yeah i do not understand
Like i wish that there were more than 3 good illisi blessings
But there arent so if i see someone say exorcist executor then i know they light spam
Although tbf even light spam can get the job doen
spice veldt
yeah slaughterer puts in that work
but they could also have (idealistically) 2x faster clear times with special spam
like if you're just going to spam the normals, then why not just use the deimos
spice veldt
i must spread my low graphics settings so that people set their ragdoll limit to 1 and get a more accurate perception of how weapons are performing
lyric burrow
Lol
I forget what mines set to
So when you swing the illisi special heavy does everything literally dissapear
spice veldt
i think the minimum that you can set in the UI is like 3 ragdolls
going into the user_settings.config lets you tone it down to 1 (setting it to 0 crashes the game)
spice veldt
So when you swing the illisi special heavy does everything literally dissapear
p much
i also have a video of a trapper immediately disappearing after death because my teammates were killing othe renemies at the same time
lyric burrow
Thats great
spice veldt
yeah you should fear me
spice veldt
i have this power and I should be appropriately feared for it, but that doesn't mean that I'll misuse it (unlike a certain someone else)
lyric burrow
Does josho just spawn to give arco shit
spice veldt
probably; he seems to use the same spawning system as specials in darktide
lunar hollow
Does josho just spawn to give arco shit
he likes it
lunar hollow
i have this power and I should be appropriately feared for it, but that doesn't ...
i don't misuse it, it's only done to deserving CRIMINALS like people who constantly barrel me
lyric burrow
I dont think arco barrels you
I feel like i always hear about arco barreling himself or you doing it
spice veldt
josho actually running a disinformation and slander campaign against me
ember hornet
notice how I carefully dodged that barrel
spice veldt
pro intentional dodge
lunar hollow
is a victim of oppression not supposed to feel pride at throwing off their shackles
upper galleon
https://streamable.com/udww2o
Double Kill!
spice veldt
is a victim of oppression not supposed to feel pride at throwing off their shack...
u literally admitted to accidentally killing cica
you god damn murderer
autumn smelt
man
i dont like vent purge
it does make the game harder, yes, but in an unenjoyable way
its just annoying lol
esp when it pretty much takes off all of the high intensity modifiers off the board
lyric burrow
i do find the visibility ones to be a little gimmicky
i actually like lights out more because it has a really nice atmosphere although it does suck only certain guns have flashlights
spice veldt
vent purge is too scary for me as somebody who doesn't run hp or sniper res
i think lights out would work a bit better if they modified ranged enemy behavior a bit
it's a mode that seems like it would be better if it placed a bit more emphasis on melee and toned down the aggro range of ranged enemies or their ability to see through the dark
lunar hollow
it's a mode that seems like it would be better if it placed a bit more emphasis ...
they did do this
im pretty sure
at least for the aggro part
spice veldt
that makes sense since I could always just run into melee
lunar hollow
i would like patrols to be more 'ambush' oriented, like they have a faster move speed or are more common or something
spice veldt
but I wasn't sure if I was surviving through sheer stupidity
lunar hollow
and are oriented around trying to take you off guard
kind of give it a more horror feel
shy crystal
An ambush is supposed to be unexpected by definition, and that actually sounds fun
Just don't make it a bunch of maniacs lol
My poor force sword can only do so much
autumn smelt
it's a mode that seems like it would be better if it placed a bit more emphasis ...
this is a huge part of it honestly
shy crystal
Hey, quick question regarding surge staff, what's the best perk lineup for it?
Blessings too
autumn smelt
this is a huge part of it honestly
its a mode where it feels like you should be bringing close range stuff to quickly deal with stuff you can see, but the opposite is true, you have to have long range cuz thats whats really going to shit on you, not even taking into account the snipers
which sucks as a psyker, cuz youre forced to brain burst way more than you feel you should
lyric burrow
Hey, quick question regarding surge staff, what's the best perk lineup for it?
Flak/crit(cara if you really want it for w/e reason) and warp flurry/nexus
shy crystal
Ah, excellent
I've got level 3 flurry and nexus saved up from crafting
How about force swords?
My current one has deflector and I'm trying to get slaughterer or exorcist
Is that good?
mental rock
deflector is fine if you feel the need for it, but most top psykers I know go unstable/slaughterer
mental rock
no
shy crystal
Actually no, I see it
mental rock
exorcist is not needed and can actually harm your damage output
spice veldt
if you were going for special spam, i'd prefer high warp res over taking exorcist as any of your blessings
deflector is good if you're not too comfortable with the movement system
or if you have the APM, swapping to your staff and quelling will achieve a similar functionality
especially with how good quelling is nowadays
they really should buff exorcist
shy crystal
What about the swords themselves? Any outliers like there are with the shotguns? (Lawbringer, for example)
mental rock
generally obscurus is the least favored, illisi for better hordes, deimos for better single target. both of them can adequately do the other's job though
I prefer the deimos myself because you can fairly easily hit the one-hit breakpoint for mutants
spice veldt
i'm an illisi stan, though mainly because I primarily use melee more than my staff
if you're using the illisi, make sure to use the special
otherwise, if you are barely using the special, just use the deimos instead
Deimos has 2x damage on its 1st light and 2.5x damage on its 2nd heavy
shy crystal
I enjoy using the special, so I'll stick with the illisi
Should I heavy with it or just spam special and light?
I've found success with both, but if I ever want to do a damnation run I want to know everything mecessary to not be a burden
spice veldt
these are my numbers without buffs, but the proportions are roughly the same with buffs
for ragers/maulers, you want to spam specials to repeatedly stagger them anyways
for maulers, if there are two or more of them, make sure to bodyshot them
because their carapace head will stop your finite cleave
maulers have 10 hitmass, and illisi's special has 10.5 cleave by default, so you can hit through a mauler and to another enemy
but there are situations where it will depend yeah
if I have slaughterer stacks up and enough buffs, I'll know that I can one-shot flamers with normal heavies
ornate hamlet
THOUGH
There's also stagger 
I mean for the combos
One of the benefits of using H1L2, despite being marginally faster than light and heavy, is that you get to line up heads and use the heavy's increased cleave
Though I didn't realize special heavy was that far ahead, though it makes sense
Things are being very thoughlike today for me
spice veldt
bread
my numbers are assuming that you can make use of the ~18 cleave that you have with full slaughterer, but I think there's quite some leeway even if you don't get to hit that many poxwalkers
and the whole stagger/cleave thing
ornate hamlet
What is the cleave on the lights at full slaughterer?
spice veldt
3.5 cleave (2 base cleave)
ornate hamlet
Okay, then I really didn't misjudge it
spice veldt
it's mostly the fast attack speed and the ability to one-shot poxwalkers with weakspots that makes force sword's light combo so good
unlike, say, the duelling swords (lamayo)
ornate hamlet
Yeah, it's why I use it occasionally on smaller crowds
Can't be arsed to line up stuff, so I just twitch around and one-shot slightly spaced poxxies
spice veldt
i sometimes just special spam even if there's only one poxwalker cuz i'm too lazy to switch combos
ornate hamlet
Quite unlike a certain weapon seemingly intended for dueling
spice veldt
and to dunk on that mf
shy crystal
I personally enjoy using my surge staff for hordes
It's extremely satisfying electrocuting the bad guys
Staggering the big guys is a nice bonus as well
Just wish I knew how to maximize the damage and utility of the staff
Right now I just kinda brain burst for stacks between hordes and spam lightning
Oh, what about feats?
steel flame
Just wish I knew how to maximize the damage and utility of the staff
if you press r after every cast you can spam the m1 really fast for big damage
restive slate
if you press r after every cast you can spam the m1 really fast for big damage
A trick I still have yet to master...
steel flame
put warp nexus and 5% crit chance on there along with unarmored or maniac and you can stun then tear shit apart
steel flame
A trick I still have yet to master...
quell canceling charged attacks is alot eaiser
its trying to quell cancel that m1 thats the real challenge 😛
restive slate
Yep yep I can never get the timing of those right
My Psyker ends up looking like he's second guessing shooting at the enemy
restive slate
put warp nexus and 5% crit chance on there along with unarmored or maniac and yo...
Imagine if Surge Staff had double shot blessing
steel flame
sure would be nice with that effective 45% crit chance the surge has
autumn smelt
im considering chasing a gun to get for my psyker cuz im getting a little tired of being put in positions where im just getting gunned down and i either dont have the range to deal with it/time to charge bb, or just cant hit the damn left click projectile consistently enough vs hitscan
what gun goes well on psyker, and what would you want on it?
the #1 ive seen gunpsykers using is that shredder smg
ok yeah i might try and build an autopistol now
tested the good base i had as well as looked at some videos of a fully crafted one in action
looks spicy as hell
i kinda forgot this gun existed cuz i remember it being so shit when i was leveling
upper galleon
smg + pinning fire 4 is one of the strongest weapons in the game rn
autumn smelt
smg + pinning fire 4 is one of the strongest weapons in the game rn
oops
obviously not the best, could be better
that t3 pinning fire could be raised to t4
autumn smelt
but the combination of t4 cava with a t4 ranged crit is quite a nice pairing
autumn smelt
is it actually
upper galleon
Only increases the bonus damage from crit
upper galleon
And shredder crit is only like, 1.13 damage
autumn smelt
still, the roll is better than i expected it to be
upper galleon
Even standard crit weapons have average 140%
So the perk is only 4% more damage on crits
I'd say cavalcade to IB or BA (ba only goes up to 3)
And then crit damage to maniac
autumn smelt
but carapace is pretty much doing jack shit for me on this
id think thats what id want to change, cuz even tho crit damage barely does anything, it still does something on the weapon
whereas carapace, 25% increase of 2 damage still rounds to 2
plus i cant think of a situation where id decide to shoot a crusher or smth over using bb or a melee
lyric burrow
Only reason to do it is to proc flayer if your running that
autumn smelt
i typically am, mostly because i run purg staff in most missions
prolly will still run it with gunpsyker cuz i dont see myself consistently staying at 6 stacks, and wildfire would be useless on that build lol
autumn smelt
Only reason to do it is to proc flayer if your running that
but that still doesnt justify having carapace on the autopistol, cuz the damage of the gun itself still doesnt change
lyric burrow
oh yeah i wouldnt run carapace on it
autumn smelt
this is the roll im working with
autumn smelt
bandit was telling me that crit damage on the autopistol was dogshit, but like
carapace
on a pistol
lyric burrow
its a lose lose
shadow wigeon
You may as well keep the crit
autumn smelt
at least the crit is doing something, albeit barely anything
shadow wigeon
You have no reason to shredder a crusher
autumn smelt
at the very least, im dipping into it a bit more with cavalcade
in the 2nd half of a magazine, im critting 80% of the magazine
the last 3rd of a muties hp is crit heaven
upper galleon
Carapace is greater than crit damage sadly
steel flame
Effective 45% crit?
with max crit stat on Surge staff you have a base 25% crit chance, add 5% crit chance perk along with Warp nexus and you will usually be running around 45% crit chance
upper galleon
Id keep it for now cause shredder is blessing reliant not perk reliant
And find a new one when the crafting update drops
Hoping u get that luck
autumn smelt
And find a new one when the crafting update drops
tbh i just grabbed 3 rolls, upgraded them if they were above 355 to blue, if they had a good blessing i kept going
this was the only one that went past blue
and im like "good enough"
never used this weapon outside of leveling, which was before the buff
so im just seeing how it goes
now lets see of hadron fucks my 380 base illisi raw
blazing spirit t3
im going to blow my brains out
3 in a row
harsh urchin
Go to orange
main jolt
Two of them even have the same perk 
lyric burrow
o7
autumn smelt
i actually dont really know what specific blessing combo people use on the illisi tbh
i just know what doesnt go on it when i see it
like blazing spirit
hidden crystal
i actually dont really know what specific blessing combo people use on the illis...
Well, while Slaughterer is as ridiculous as it is, you want that. People vary on the second, but it's usually either unstable power or deflector
Depends if you want maximum murdering, or utility.
plucky flax
There is a blaze illisi meme build.
Its not as good as slaughterer but sometimes you just want to meme.
plucky flax
it's mostly the fast attack speed and the ability to one-shot poxwalkers with we...
It's op against groaners horde. If it's poxwalkers those guys are thicc so you'll be overwhelmed with just light spam. Best to mix in some specials here and there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyZCldGYaFI
autumn smelt
Well, while Slaughterer is as ridiculous as it is, you want that. People vary on...
i had never looked at the blessings it can get, so i actually had no idea that it could come with it
cuz yknow
i keep getting blazing spirit
as you can see
upper galleon
I don't think fsword needs uncanny
Your active ignores armor any ways and that's what you should be doing against mixed hordes anyways
Slaught unstable, slaught deflector, slaught executor
ornate hamlet
Uncanny is mostly for carapace, but at that point... brain burst
hidden crystal
Well, looking at the breakdowns, the Illisi's light attacks already have 75% damage against light armour, and 100% on heavy, so Rending can't boost them that much.
Carapace yes, it would make a big difference... but yes, when we have brain burst in the arsenal (or you can smack maulers in the torso instead)...
restive slate
How good is Executor on Illisi?
plucky flax
I think shred is better.
hidden crystal
How good is Executor on Illisi?
It relies on repeated weakspot hits on a weapon which is strongest when cleaving through multiple targets.
Chaining those hits is not particularly practical most of the time.
strong gulch
Slaughters is overtuned and THE choice.
That being said, I can see a few of the illisi blessings being better suited to different play styles.
But as we've all been saying, the crafting system doesn't allow for easy experimentation.
I am sure hopeful that we will have more freedom later with reds (when we get them; I'm not talking about the upcomthing patch).
restive slate
I feel reds won't change too much, the least I can think of is a third blessing/perk
Hoping for being able to max out a stat to 100%
urban hearth
Well, looking at the breakdowns, the Illisi's light attacks already have 75% dam...
that crit scalings actually really fucking high
hidden crystal
that crit scalings actually really fucking high
I think the Finesse on this one is 71%, not sure exactly what multiplier that equates to...
... but then the score board tells me I average about forty crits a Heresy mission, so it's not really a big boost.
And the armoury seems to be offering me Trauma staffs right now:
The first one seems like it might be worth a pop, but the second has some underwhelming perks/blessings to start with.
errant condor
For Melee weapons: is it still just illisi power sword or bust? Been really feeling the dueling sword + surge staff combo lately but I'm wondering if I'd be better off with a different melee there
plucky flax
Blaze trauma my beloved.
I like duelling sword with purg.
Cos it can't horde clear for shitzzle
errant condor
Also side note can FS change psykers to always be able to quell peril on every melee weapon and not just warp powered ones? it genuinely annoys me so much when I have to swap to my staff to quell when I use duelling sword, Ik its for lore accuracy yadda yadda; just gimme the quality of life buff. I'm sure psykers can focus real hard on not turning into a chaos spawn while holding a regular sword without it breaking the lore of a universe where Fungus men can literally will scrap metal into functioning as a spacefaring ship
Sorry for ranting but this has been driving me nuts
errant condor
Cos it can't horde clear for shitzzle
Yeah I've been kinda using it to stun things then spam duelling sword headshots, probably not the most effective clear but its been getting me by
strong gulch
For Melee weapons: is it still just illisi power sword or bust? Been really feel...
If that that's what's you're vibing with and having fun with, keep doing it.
If you mean "better off" as more quickly and efficiently, then Illisi or deimos is going to be your picks.
errant condor
If that that's what's you're vibing with and having fun with, keep doing it.
If...
Yea I just don't wanna be "that guy" in higher difficulty runs who has a bad loadout and can't do their job y'know (Looking at you, 95% of Ogryn players).
I do feel the lack of clear compared to my normal purg + power sword loadout I might see if I can use a better horde clearing melee with surge
ornate hamlet
I mean, you can use dueling sword until you get tired of lacking in horde DPS
I did that
Fun weapon, not fun to just get the constant feeling of "this is so slow"
urban hearth
i like the force sword with the face stab
coz you an switch to and 1 shot any regular goon thats in up your ass
and it kills elites in a couple of charged hits
regal jasper
But lightning sword go boom
plucky flax
I mean, you can use dueling sword until you get tired of lacking in horde DPS
Pair it with purga or trauma.
regal jasper
And as previously mentioned i like boom
urban hearth
melee weapons kinda redundant with purgatus
just better to hit em with the toothpaste beam 99% of the time
strong gulch
Yea I just don't wanna be "that guy" in higher difficulty runs who has a bad loa...
If you like the move set of dueling swords, Deimos is pretty close.
You can also pair dueling sword with a horde clear staff.
Those are both compromises tho.
strong gulch
Playing Genshin reminds me how much worse gear and crafting could have been in Darktide. 🥲
near wyvern
melee weapons kinda redundant with purgatus
Same with trauma which is why you carry a Deimos with you:
https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10?start=35
spice veldt
It's op against groaners horde. If it's poxwalkers those guys are thicc so you'l...
i am a little biased because I run Unstable Power which lets me hit a one-shot bp on them with the minimum cleave damage with enough buffs, meaning that I can potentially one-shot like ~26 full hp groaners
and if I know I have those buffs, I can dodge into a groaner horde and kill everything before they can hit me
plucky flax
26?
feral inlet
on illisi i just do h1 l1 h1 l1 over and over again
spice veldt
i reach that breakpoint with 4 warp charges, >40% peril, and 5 t4 slaughterer stacks
feral inlet
or just special h1
spice veldt
that's 19.425 cleave with +85% power,
since groaners have 0.75 hitmass, that means that I can hit 25.9 (rounded up to 26) groaners
lethal raptor
How are these staffs? Is brittleness worth it, or should I just try to get a higher crit rate perk for the blaze application?
hidden crystal
I don't use the Trauma often, but I think Charge Rate is considered a pretty bad dump stat for it because of how wide the scaling is (I think the 0-100% range is 2.5s down to 1s).
As such, the second seems like a fair upgrade, somewhat reducing the need for Flurry (also increasing the Blast Radius that's also pretty important)... but yes, maximum crit rate is what you want if you're going for the Blaze Trauma, so try to get a better version of Nexus and max out that crit perk. (You can use the reroll mod if you don't already... which will supposedly be redundant with the next patch, but in the meantime it makes things so much easier).
plucky flax
Both of them are borked I'm afraid.
hidden crystal
Collecting +3 Stamina curios for when the patch hits.
(Most of my existing curios will be able to be upgraded to triple T4 perks that I like when the patch hits, but my existing Stamina curio isn't quite there, so it's going to need replacing).
spice veldt
i got this gr8 one sitting here
i've been just buying curios since the start of the game, so I'll be happy to no longer need to do that
ooh i've got another one
+10% HP, +44% toughness, and +36% gunner res from these two curios alone
hidden crystal
I've got a toughness curio sitting to one side with T3 cooldown reduction sitting on it which is certainly underwhelming if you're not running any other reductions, and I'm planning to swap that out for either sniper resist or stamina regen.
But my current stamina curio has got both T3 Sniper and Gunner resist locked onto it already, and I'd like both of those to be T4.
plucky flax
Me chilling in the corner but the other 3 together just die and 1 rage quit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1XIuvzyn5s
hidden crystal
At the moment, I've got three T3 gunner resists, which stacks to 38.5%, barely more than the 36% that two T4's stack to, so yeah, I'd like to pare that down to two T4s to free up the other space for something else.
spice veldt
lunar hollow
https://streamable.com/y5zekj
he gave up
spice veldt
for some reason, I can only do that if I'm looking at the sniper and moving left/right
but I can't do that by walking in a circle and looking in the direction I'm going
lunar hollow
and here we see the nerd in his natural habitat
performing some strange mating ritual
spice veldt
you be quiet
spice veldt
no but you also have no rights
spice veldt
recon lasguns having a collateral stat is like one of the funniest things to me
gloomy gulch
I have to re roll the one on the right to maniac. Both have low damange, which one should I use hmm
near wyvern
https://streamable.com/y5zekj
Yeah right, then in game when I dodge on my screen they just still hit me at times
spice veldt
it's joever
spice veldt
fresh reef
this also bricked but at least I got t4 nexus out of it
going for a burn trauma build for funsies
just out of curiosity though, this is pretty solid right?
plucky flax
Yeah I suppose although I am not a fan of rending build.
Since you don't actually increase your own damage.
harsh urchin
i got this gr8 one sitting here
Not a huge fan of cdr due to how the psyker playstyle
Since generally the ult is a "hold until you need it" unless you're using AB
Ended up only running cdr curios on vet
spice veldt
my rationale is that disablers are the only thing that I need to worry about, shaving off some seconds can count, and a faster CD means that I feel less pressured to save my ult for later
harsh urchin
Since that's the only class where I'm spamming the button waiting for last 1-2 seconds
Fair enough lol
spice veldt
and I'm becoming more comfortable with using my trauma staff more instead of trying to stick to my melee all the time
so i've been trying to use my ult more offensively
and paying attention to when i'm sprinting so i don't get fucked into that bug where my ult doesn't stagger because my player character themselves are staggered
harsh urchin
I think I just play a bit differently than you do
spice veldt
prolly
spice veldt
i run psyk aura + kinetic barrage because I'm insanely greedy for elite/special kills and I like guilt-free ult usage
harsh urchin
Oic lol
spice veldt
I also tend to be wildly out of position all the time, so having my ult is basically necessary for not dying to dogs/trappers sometimes
well my positioning is a lot better nowadays
harsh urchin
Yeah makes sense LOL
harsh urchin
I also only have my purg and gunpsyker built out
Since i dislike the staves in this game 😿
spice veldt
yeah I don't like the staffs but I find trauma to be a good mix of damage + stagger
the only problem I run into with trauma are bosses
i'm swapping to the warp glock staff the moment we get it
harsh urchin
At least you have option of BB spam lol
spice veldt
true
just wish we had a bolter-like DPS ranged option to chunk their HP
without relying on my teammates
harsh urchin
Like a bolter staff
spice veldt
I had a string of 3 games where my teammate just fucking keeled over during a boss spawn leaving me alone
harsh urchin
I just wished the vs staff was more like fireball staff
spice veldt
and a game where i got a rescue off but the teammate I revived kept on following me instead of rescusing the other player
harsh urchin
Voidstrike staff idk just feels so... Feeble
Like u charge it up all the way and shit doesnt die
Compared to fireball staff which one shot stormvermin
In aoe
spice veldt
it's a weird weapon that deals the same damage to all targets hit and has decently high cleave compared to most other ranged weapons
but this same-damage-done-to-all-targets and moderately high cleave value lends itself purely to hordeclear and nothing else really
a single scab rager (6 hitmass) will eat a fully charged voidstrike
so, in the end, that cleave distribution doesn't matter when you're only hitting a single target
fresh reef
does Kinetic Shield still scale off of peril or did they change it back to warp charges?
not sure if the description is correct
spice veldt
still peril
fresh reef
wack
spice veldt
yeah you are completely right to be skeptical
peril is called "warp charges" in the code, so they got that mixed up when editing the description
steel flame
that never ceases to get me
spice veldt
since they removed "ranged" from the description to more accurately describe the fact that kinetic shield affects all toughness damage instead of only ranged
spice veldt
that never ceases to get me
yeah it is SO weird, and this is not the first time that this has happened
fresh reef
+6% peril resistance per Peril 
steel flame
yeah it is SO weird, and this is not the first time that this has happened
it happens. EVERY. SINGLE. PATCH.
you go into the game file. and you make notations in the file so people who arent you know what they are looking at and it prevents stuff like that
i had to make a game with a group as a final project for a design class in college and we did exactly this so we all stayed on the same page with each other
its not that hard
spice veldt
or having one person that proofreads changes to descriptions
steel flame
that too
harsh urchin
it's a weird weapon that deals the same damage to all targets hit and has decent...
But doesnt fireball staff penetrate everything
spice veldt
i feel like just having one person do double checks would solve a lot of things
harsh urchin
And also demolishes armored
steel flame
But doesnt fireball staff penetrate everything
stops on elites and specials
steel flame
yeah fireball is my favorite sienna staff
getting the arc just right to delete entire hordes is beyond satisfying
harsh urchin
Ye i wish the staves in dt were more like vt tbh
steel flame
i wouldnt mind if we had varried m1 attacks like in vermintide instead of the INSERT GENERIC FIREBOLT M1 HERE
we had shotguns, machineguns, burst fire
granted some of them were worse than others but thats mostly because the heat generation on some of them sucked ass and you are punished for quelling in vermintide 2
steel flame
pair it with deflection so you dont lose your stamina immidiatly
near sierra
Siblings, help me decide - yet to reroll the perk on staff 2
harsh urchin
Carapace to flak or unyielding
near sierra
aye but which burny stick?
harsh urchin
Up too you
gloomy gulch
the special on the obscurus is not bad tbh
fresh reef
the special on the obscurus is not bad tbh
the special on the obscurus is not bad tbh
spice veldt
the obscurus is a fine weapon
I've never liked the special because of how it locks you in place, but the 200% bonus against Flak is very neat
gloomy gulch
im using it with the void so I can remember the good old days
spice veldt
a clip from before the new force swords dropped https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfpShoQ5ZoeJ6UrPQYmqHod0oLm2Wrn5M
the days of when bloodthirsty lasted for all swings within 5 seconds 🥲
thorn cedar
lol and Deflector was built in
gloomy gulch
nah the before before times
near wyvern
the days of when bloodthirsty lasted for all swings within 5 seconds 🥲
It's idiotic that it has a duration now. Either make it next hit without any time limit (state saved on weapon swap) or revert back to 5 seconds without any hit limit.
spice veldt
yeah having both is just so painful
plucky flax
pairing my rashad with a trauma
Not using psyker exclusive melee weapons.
gloomy gulch
Not using psyker exclusive melee weapons. <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
listen the rashad slaps
1-800 we slapping
gloomy gulch
also just rolled this, time to slap slaughterer 4 on it and flak woooo
plucky flax
RIP no flak maniac.
plucky flax
Wait for FS to let you reroll 3 things. 
spice veldt
:(
gloomy gulch
I mean deflector and slaughterer + flak instead of weak spot is just sub par, nexus or bust
plucky flax
I would go maniac instead of flak on that.
Personally I hate muties and want to kill them asap. D:
gloomy gulch
Fair enough
near wyvern
Duelling sword mk 5 is where it's at on psyker.
Yeah nah, Deimos is the king
strong gulch
I forget the damage on my illisi, but it take 3 special lights to take out a mutie on damnation. That's with or without damage to mutants.
Can't remember for heavies.
gloomy gulch
I want some diversity in my psyker melee weapons but then I just keep rolling fun slightly different illisis
spice veldt
if you have +maniac and unstable power, you can two-shot a mutant with a weakspot and bodyshot special-heavy
instead of requiring both hits to be a weakspot
near wyvern
Yeah PSA if you get a good Illisi with +flak +maniac perks don't touch that shit at hadron before update, a few weeks and you can have a +flak +maniac Illisi with any two T4 blessings you desire
gloomy gulch
Like look at these all fun
I did re roll the blazing spirit one to maniac
Too bad about the carapace in the first one but hey what are you going to do
First target is bad but like all I do is spam special
hidden crystal
Too bad about the carapace in the first one but hey what are you going to do
Never ever hit a Crusher with it, probably.
plucky flax
Yeah nah, Deimos is the king
No swag mane.
gloomy gulch
Never ever hit a Crusher with it, probably.
I spam special into crushers
It's alright
tender osprey
change run n gun to flurry or nexus, then idk what to change stamina to
could do manicas, but i dont think youre using it on them in the first place right? at least from what ive observed.
gloomy gulch
Never ever hit a Crusher with it, probably.
I mean meh? I dunno lol
hidden crystal
My usual trick with the Illisi and Crushers is "push them over, so I have time to switch to brain burst".
ember hornet
my trick with illisi is brainlessly swing it at everything that moves
gloomy gulch
same
hidden crystal
Including team mates.
ember hornet
and barrels
spice veldt
trust no one
gloomy gulch
I love how much I can spam special on this thing
hidden crystal
If they will dress in brown rags, I can't be blamed if I swing at them occasionally.
gloomy gulch
yeah I always think the Kreig vets are baddies
or the psykers with capes are snipers
harsh urchin
i wish game had friendly fire tbh
Poor people deserve to get to be shot
All these ppl wearing rags and not paying for skins
hidden crystal
or the psykers with capes are snipers
This is part of the reason I still mostly dress in the old penance cosmetics. Red at least stands out.
thorn cedar
I do want FF tbh
harsh urchin
FF probably needs some tuning though
It probably needs to be like vt where its only ranged
thorn cedar
Oh definitely not on melee. Probably not on grenades either tbh
hidden crystal
I did buy part of one of the store sets because I figured I should spend my Imperial Edition Aquilas on something (and it's actually got some armour to it to explain surviving all those bullets), but I've not worn it much.
Still have some left over, so trying to work out if I like this head gear to go with it. (I don't hugely like the one in the full version of the set).
gloomy gulch
I have a peg leg yar
analog solstice
Still have some left over, so trying to work out if I like this head gear to go ...
She needs a brown paper bag head cosmetic asap
hidden crystal
That would not be in accordance with approved protocol.
grizzled iris
Laspistol Psyker...
gaunt stone
hidden crystal
Neither is ideal, but both have their arguments. Stamina can potentially be useful if you're running Deflector. Specialist damage covers quite a lot of things, assuming you get close enough to actually hit them with a sword.
young ridge
I would remove stamina
harsh urchin
I would keep stamina
plucky flax
What are the blessings? 👀
harsh urchin
+1 stamina gives you 33% more stamina baseline if you're not running curios
And 10% specialist is not a meaningful amount of damage against anything really
slate sun
well it does stack up
thorn cedar
Yeah +Specialist only really shines if you pair it with +Maniac on just a handful of weapons.
But functionally we're talking about a class of enemies that are either quick, far away, or that you want to STAY far away from, so having that damage on your sharpstick doesn't equate to much.
plucky flax
Muties will come to you.
upper galleon
does first target matter on deimos or is it like illisi
harsh urchin
It matters
Arguably it also matters on illisi
Since realistically you aren't going to only be using the special
There are times when you have to use uncharged swings
lyric burrow
Yeah i first target on deimos def matters
One of the 3 stats i care about on it
I don't like anything below high 70s
oak gale
hello fellow DARKTIDE gamers
i have completed the
Going Out with a Bang penance
but i have not recieved the cosmetic reward
I have tried swapping characters and it hasn't worked
slate sun
maybe you've got the cosmetic but just haven't noticed ?
the penance doesn't show up in the log for whatever reason
you should get "storm witch's duty raiment"
upper galleon
hello fellow DARKTIDE gamers
i have completed the
Going Out with a Bang penance...
play veteran until you get plasma gun /half joke
anyways, just tell your team you need the penance and just blow up near an elite pack. Usual maulers is what you are going for. Hi int malice is the best and look for a doorway or something you can get them all nice and congested with and go for it
so yea, either, you didn't kill 3 elites in one explosion, or you did but it wasn't malice or higher
lyric burrow
Isnt it one now
oak gale
I for sure got the achievement and the penance for it.
autumn smelt
FRESH OUTTA THE OVEN BAYBEEE
strong gulch
Pfft. Good thing I had plot armor. After dropping from a ledge and before I touched the ground, there was a sniper callout and I was shot. That was after I was also sniped through the floor. Later I was grabbed by a mutant after it passed me and netted out right as it was tossing me.
autumn smelt
a veteran just killed me with his plasma gun selfexplosion
which cost us the game, cuz it left 1 person alive after both of us got our asses eaten by maulers
upper galleon
I for sure got the achievement and the penance for it.
oh the achievement on steam is wrong
it's 3 elites not 1
so you have the achievement and not penance
spice veldt
they nerfed the penance to 1 elite
slow raven
i think my brain is rotted from playing psyker almost exclusively since launch
ive been trying to get into vet and the power sword feels absolutely awful
like a weak version of the illisi that cant dodge for shit
actually i kind of struggle to use anything without infinite dodges, i dont really understand how to reset the dodge counter if anyone is feeling kind enough to explain
upper galleon
psword has it's niche only with power cycler
slow raven
yeah im missing that blessing, just have slaughterer and another blessing that i forgot
the dodging thing seems like it'd still be an issue though
upper galleon
there is dodge tracking mods
that show a little fragmented meter on your screen
i dont use em but i know they exist
autumn smelt
there is dodge tracking mods
that would be so helpful
but alas
pc poopoo
so i run darktide through geforce now
autumn smelt
is it just me, or does dodging an attack thats coming from behind just
not work?
cuz 90% of the time, i still get hit anyway
most of my deaths in general arent some wild situation that results in the heat death of the universe
its always constant chip damage, slowly whittling me away because theres always something behind me that is guaranteed to hit me, regardless if i dodge/block/push/hit the person
spice veldt
against melee attacks, dodging basically just shortens their reach
so you'll still get hit if you're too close, and this shortening is on a per-attack basis
running attacks will infamously tend to hit you because they'll follow you and have a generally decent dodge catch
it's why I like to hold out force swords for basically the entire game and spam dodges so that I don't need to GAF about anything around me
autumn smelt
i know about the running attacks, which is why i never actively dodge backwards more than once from an enemy
autumn smelt
it's why I like to hold out force swords for basically the entire game and spam ...
the main issue is when im using my staff
spice veldt
yeah that can be sketchy
I usually just play it safe nowadays and swap to my force swords to dodge or to do a push
autumn smelt
like at this point im getting close to just accepting the fact that im just gonna take the damage
spice veldt
since swapping to your melee is almost instantaneous, and pushes also come out instantly on the keypress
or I rely on melee kills to regen toughness before I take another hit
autumn smelt
even blocking, doing a 180, pushing and dodging, when i do have my force sword out, i still somehow still take the damage
even when i take see that theyve been pushed
spice veldt
bad internet?
autumn smelt
shouldnt be, gameplay is via geforce now so it should be linked to a really good connection
idk ive just always been dicked on even when doing what, in theory, you do to avoid a hit from behind
this last game just took it up to eleven where every time i turned around the audio cue played again, so i was constantly being hit left and right and left and right, cuz the only people that were swinging were the ones coming from behind, the luxuries of infinite force sword dodges didnt help in the slightest
harsh urchin
dont get surrounded lol
autumn smelt
it was the mid event of chasm station lmao
spice veldt
prob just have your melee out at all times or stick near a wall
the center area is a bit eh but even that has one side covered by the interrogator thingy at all times if you're sticking close
or be faster on swapping to your melee since it sounds like bad internet/ping if attacks are coming through even if it looks like you've staggered them before they swung
I do not like to play in a reactionary way because I can't be assed to pay attention to what enemies are doing unless it's something like an overhead, so I just spam dodges all the time as long as my force sword is out
spice veldt
this is what I do and it works as long as you're not dodging into an enemy https://streamable.com/9tz38g
my shit reaction time is another reason why I don't bother playing in a reactionary way, but you can still go through hordes without even worrying about reacting to them as long as you feather the ever-living crap out of your dodge button
hidden crystal
Push with force sword more.
Push with force sword is awesome.
Often I will just spam a heap of pushes because it keeps the horde locked while we try to sort ourselves out.
golden tartan
against melee attacks, dodging basically just shortens their reach
Nah dodging creates iframes
spice veldt
against ranged
golden tartan
And melee
spice veldt
you'll still get hit by melee attacks if you're too close
spice veldt
yes
you don't need to move for the reach to be shortened
i'm not talking about the player
i'm talking about the melee attack of the enemy
golden tartan
Iirc some attacks are "undodgeable"
I.e. they ignore dodge iframes
So you actually need to get out of the way
spice veldt
i can't find a more clear comment, but here's a comment where crab remarks on "dodge reach"
and you will absolutely get hit by that crusher overhead if you were closer
like if you were hugging that crusher, you will get hit even if you're in a dodge state
that's the reach shortening that I'm talking about
I'm aware that if you're far away enough, this has the same effect as i-frames
but it's important enough to know that you still need to physically move away from an attack to avoid getting hit
just that dodges will give you significantly more leeway on most attacks
oops forgot to link #veteran-class message
as a simple test, you can spawn a crusher inside one of the psykanium walls (to make him stay in place instead of moving around) and attempt to dodge his attacks at different distances away
you will find that it is impossible to spot dodge his attacks if you are too close
whereas if you are a decent distance away (but, of course, close enough for his attacks to hit) , you will reliably dodge his attacks
near wyvern
From my testing dodge has true i-frames for ranged attacks but not melee
Same for sliding
plucky flax
Also dodging in meatgrinder and in a game is very different. The fs servers are fucky
fast swan
which psyker sword is the horizontal one?
the horizontal charged swing?
lunar hollow
illisi
plucky flax
Left one would be good if you can reroll 3 things.
zealous sierra
Left one would be good if you can reroll 3 things.
Which 3
plucky flax
zealous sierra
plucky flax
With how crafting is right now you make it to a decent rending trauma. Put unarmoured over crit damage and rending over terrifying barrage.
Although imo blaze trauma is better.
near wyvern
Am I the only one here just stocking up my mats so once the patch hits I can just upgrade all my 370+ blues to purple
plucky flax
Unless they change rng chance to get better perks/blessings it wouldn't matter if you upgrade to purple now or after patch.
near wyvern
Yeah, but if I do it now I will forget what I get
Too many weapons
Easier to do it then when I can straight go and pick the one with the best perks and slap double T4 blessings on it
plucky flax
T4 blazing spirit on trauma
urban hearth
purgatus should have a blessing that causes it to apply soulblaze and burning
hidden crystal
Purgatus should have a blessing that causes it to not apply soulblaze and burning.
Maybe gunge instead, for the full 90s kids TV look.
restive slate
I finally got Inspiring Barrage on my Autopistol, any suggestions on changes for blessings and perks?
plucky flax
You could wait until patch to get double t4 blessing but still miss out on + flak.
near wyvern
After patchie I only need one of the three perks to be good
is 80 base max for a curio?
pairs well with this when I can re-roll that sniper resist to 20 as well
strong gulch
I don't understand curio base ratings. The same blessing and tier can have different numbers.
ornate hamlet
Some of that Fartshart magic
lilac tapir
hey, do I need to install Darktide Vortex Extension each time there is a Vortex update?
plucky flax
Nein.
I might reroll my 45% sniper resist to 60% after patch too.
Tickle me sniper daddy.
zealous sierra
zealous sierra
I have no idea what I need
grizzled iris
Surge sucks
zealous sierra
what perk do I need
ornate hamlet
I hereby escalate your skill issue to a performance problem
Oh yeah, perks
Idk, I don't know staves
zealous sierra
lmao
grizzled iris
I hereby escalate your skill issue to a performance problem
I challenge you to a mission
ornate hamlet
I challenge you to cancel the challenge
grizzled iris
Cracks knuckles
I'll beat you to a pulp hun
ornate hamlet
Joke's on you, that's my fetish
grizzled iris
Great, then lets begin
zealous sierra
viral solstice
to be precise
@spice veldt @golden tartan the situation with dodge is like this
by default when u dodge u dont get hit
but each attack has essentially a series of sanity checks
and these are LOTS of different things
the crude thing most attacks share is
- a reach (how close u can be to the attack root) and 2) possibly an actual space filling box for eg a pogryn slam
these are not the visual extent of the attack
this is why u will phase thru most attacks
the attacks with long reach are not dangerous
they are 1) poxwalkers/bathrobe bois 2) rager combos 3) some other random attacks chosen at random from a hat u no how it be
the key point is this is nothing to do with tracking
and the use of "tracking" is fucking stupid and confusing
and it was fatshark who started it and what people think it means is like
dark souls "boss is turning to track ur movement and stops*
but it doesnt change his hitbox behaviour or wahtever
what happens in darktide is literally a lot of attacks kinda say "u can dodge it if u started dodging in this period, if it was too early u cant, if ur too close u cant, etc"
but this is why u can be cocky as fuck in front of a crusher
and also u absolutely can dodge into a crusher... if u do it right
in general any high threat attack - so any overhead - u can be inside it
in general when people say "does a game have iframes" what they actually mean
is "is evasion about timing or positioning"
well, darktide is both
but more timing than anything else in the situations people really need to fucking dodge
and the illusion people had (and in some cases still have) is that "if u get hit u get hit lol"
in this case
the hammer is so far thru my fucking body i can see the end of it emerging out my chest
but im k
the core takeaway is in the end
u arent neo u cant spot dodge a horde of zombies
which is actually good and intuitive
but crushers? plogryns? yeah ur kinda neo
grizzled iris
but crushers? plogryns? yeah ur kinda neo
viral solstice
oh yeah and this is like, true while adsing too
or being slowed
thats from like 8 months ago
ornate hamlet
So it's normal for me to be shit at just dodging hordes
Also
overhead from the left
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT
viral solstice
yeah hordes are like space filling attacks
viral solstice
i was just like ok i killed 7 ill just slap the last one to death cos its funny
thats not the single target rotation
ornate hamlet
The others don't deserve the love
ornate hamlet
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/R1vQgyqgMsHSr/d1337ETI6EBM...
This is like one of the most fun things to do on vet
viral solstice
thats a hellbore 3 with no onslaught
i was reliably informed u could not kill multiple crushers with it and it was a bad anti armour weapon
ornate hamlet
ADS a helbore and just dance point blank with it
viral solstice
ornate hamlet
I'mma be like real honest
I don't think I noticed a difference with onslaught on the mk3
viral solstice
u would notice if that had it
ornate hamlet
No, I mean like
viral solstice
cos i would have sat in ads
ornate hamlet
I had I think a tier 4 one on mine
I removed it and was like "wait, this is the same thing"
viral solstice
it makes a huge diff on the 3
ornate hamlet
The mk1 was noticeable with onslaught 3, but I swear I couldn't notice onslaught 4 on the mk3 last time I used it
ornate hamlet
It's supposed to, yeah
viral solstice
i mean
ornate hamlet
It's why it puzzled me
viral solstice
a lot of people are only getting 1-2 shots in a given ads cycle
first shot no benefit second shot still 90 %
the way u feel it is by sustained ads
or sustained hipfire
because hb3 shoots less per unit time u have to deliberately maintain ads
because every time u go in or out onslaught drops
ornate hamlet
Wait, that's a thing?
Speaking of, I didn't actually remember it being a thing, but I'm glad surgical doesn't stop when you're charging a shot
ornate hamlet
Woulda been silly stupid dumb otherwise
ornate hamlet
Wait
I need to see that in my vet later, I swear the game has like the most fucked up interactions possible
viral solstice
havent checked in last 2 months
but surgical would stop when u started chargin ga hellbore
because u fired it
and start its charge cycle again
until u release
ok just checked surgical doesnt reset any more cos they changed the fire action but onslaught breaks on ads
so if u wanna use it
either ads... or dont
and yeah for 3
taps stack onslaught
so just tap two guys then go to town while ads or hip fire and u will notice onslaught
lyric burrow
Yeah onslaught is my fav
Ik it sucks vs unarmored but i just use the ult to compensate
Give psyker helbore
golden tartan
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Z8UbeZoLskcON/d13375jyPr3S...
Amazing analysis :D
viral solstice
hellbore is one of the best balanced guns in the game
incredibly powerful, all 3 variants are usable and have people who enejoy them, but very clear limitations
cyan notch
too bad only 1 class can use it
plucky flax
That's a really nice helbore. I'd put unarmoured over unyielding.
astral junco
quick question is the loner the one who talks to the subtitles? (character creation)
lunar hollow
yes
astral junco
thx
calm sapphire
hellbore is one of the best balanced guns in the game
if only we could customize our scopes
if only...
lyric burrow
That's a really nice helbore. I'd put unarmoured over unyielding.
It would be optimal but beasts of nurgle get memed and its funny
plucky flax
BonBon already memed with just no respite.
lyric burrow
Yeah bon isnt the toughest lol
plucky flax
lethal folio
I've figured that with Trauma that Warp Resist does nothing to help my [full charge - vent] loop, so that's now my dump stat.
Just need enough vent speed to get the two tick threshold.
harsh urchin
like how dumpy can I have my dump stat be
depends on the stat generally
certain weapons that dump mobility you want 50+, since that is the threshold to go from 3 dodges to 4
for something like warp res on force sword, it can pretty much be 0
spice veldt
I like high warp res on the illisi since spamming the special is usually the best option
at the very least, I'd like 51% warp res since that's the threshold for getting 5 specials from 0% peril
plucky flax
Embrace the light spam life.
whole oxide
I've figured that with Trauma that Warp Resist does nothing to help my [full cha...
depends if you're playing Blazing trauma or Flurry/Tranq, you don't want to loop charge/vent with Flurry, defeats the purpose
zealous sierra
^Advice for void strike plox
thorn cedar
Surge is doo doo sadly. But is visually amazing if nothing else.
Flurry is good. You'll want Transfer Peril instead of Surge.
Keep Maniac and throw on some Flak. Not much else to it.
thorn cedar
I'm literally checking breakpoints myself rn lol
as far as feats go ... whatever you want, i guess?
ive ran a voidstrike with every possible build and they all do what you'd expect
no feat felt mandatory for the staff in the way that a trauma staff super wants warp resistence
so it's whatever you want. lately ive been doing Warp Unleashed, six warp charges, fast brain burst ult
just the mostest damage possible out of the orbs and still having strong brain bursts for maniacs since it's not the best for killing them
Ok you need +Flak if you want to be able to 1s bodyshot Scab shooters.
That's it. But also this is assuming you have zero warp charges and no other power ups like Warp Unleashed.
And also good luck with that cause the phat death orb loves to eat arms first at a juicy 50% damage loss
Better aim for the head
Nothing else of note that I can see.
Oh, +Unarmored gets you very close to body shotting Snipers. Also the same for Dreg Shooters. But again, the above applies.
zealous sierra
Well I got my illisi for mutants
Do u run resistance and 6 warp for trauma?
The fact u can easily blow urself up with it
thorn cedar
I don't run Trauma at all, hate it lul. Hate it like I always hated Sienna's Coruscation staff.
zealous sierra
I find it fun to play
thorn cedar
Aiming it makes me angry.
zealous sierra
The aim needs work
If only there's a way to make the ground circle look more visible
Depth perception be hard
spice veldt
it's what happens when it passes through enemies and has an infinitesimally small ass marker thing
i like that it passes through enemies, but they could give it some "width" so that it doesn't pass through the smallest gap of stairs
gloomy gulch
Just using my fire sword and an auto gun 😄
spice veldt
maintaining the high ground is almost mandatory for comfy usage of the trauma
gloomy gulch
I have chosen arsen today
spice veldt
like even if I'm a single foot below a platform, it'll be hard to see where I'm aiming on the platform without relying on my muscle memory
zealous sierra
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1138138420447813653/Screenshot_2317.png
Me with a team I had to carry on high dam
zealous sierra
like even if I'm a single foot below a platform, it'll be hard to see where I'm ...
And I have no idea how it sends bulwark flying
Or do damage
Sometimes it doesn't do damage to them
spice veldt
yeah it seems that it uses the player's position to check if you can deal damage to the bulwark
similar bug for zealot's nade before they fixed that
zealous sierra
HUH
thorn cedar
I've got one more breakpoint for you. With +Flak and around ~40% bonus damage from Warp charges and WU combined you can 1s headshot shotgunners.
spice veldt
i don't bother using my trauma for bulwarks anyways since I don't trust my teammates to target staggered bulwarks
zealous sierra
How it work for the zealot nade
thorn cedar
That's the exhaustive list I have after twenty minutes.
spice veldt
if a bulwark was facing you and had their shield up, the zealot nade would not affect the bulwark (even if the nade was behind the Bulwark)
zealous sierra
Bruh
zealous sierra
I've got one more breakpoint for you. With +Flak and around ~40% bonus damage fr...
How much did a single warp give again?
spice veldt
4% per warp charge
this damage stacks additively with the damage% from warp unleashed
thorn cedar
Yeah WU always provides a base of 10. So 34% is reliable.
spice veldt
it stacks additively with the damage from warp unleashed, so 134%
zealous sierra
Ah
thorn cedar
Hypothetical max is 49%
zealous sierra
But that's at 100% peril right?
thorn cedar
I say hypothetical only because actually doing stuff at 100% is mostly a fluke, dangerous, or short lived.
Yeah
zealous sierra
Hahaha
harsh urchin
you get another 10% against elites/specials from class
thorn cedar
I always fkn forget about that
spice veldt
i've smacked an elite, wondered where this extra damage came from, and only figured out where it was from after a few minutes
thorn cedar
I was just wondering myself
Why the shotgunners were a 1s but the bomber is not
It made no sense but ah, here we are.
zealous sierra
@spice veldt btw I love the setting u gave
My game doesn't have that weird lightning fog
And I can see 20 ft infront clearly now
spice veldt
i'm proud to convey low graphics to people