because instead of thinking you can stagger it away or whatever the trauma just detonates it
#psyker-class
lunar hollow
spice veldt
i accidentally blew up a poor vet yesterday
ornate hamlet
i like that you dont have to aim with surge
lunar hollow
i accidentally blew up a poor vet yesterday
and yet you call me evil...
spice veldt
glass houses
pot calling the kettle black
etc.
oh wait
are you on my side or on josho's side sterling
ornate hamlet
lunar hollow
sounds like he's on sterling's side
ornate hamlet
Yes
lunar hollow
making him even more wrong than either of us
spice veldt
TRUE
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
no
ornate hamlet
I don't because you did it
lunar hollow
di dit
ornate hamlet
If it was me doing it I'd be happy
plucky flax
Huh I actually tend to use Surge when I play with 2 other people.
lunar hollow
its okay we can't all accept my inherent superiority
ornate hamlet
I am prepared to airsurf a poxburster
I am not prepared to airsurf when I don't know when it'll explode
plucky flax
It's a faster staff so it pushes the pace of the game more
lunar hollow
i find that games go faster when someone doesn't give their ranged damage up for a weapon that fucks my aim up on the majority of classes
crystal jolt
i'm sure you'd have handled it if it wasn't pushed by the surge user. what with you walking towards it with your ripper braced.
wet belfry
It's a faster staff so it pushes the pace of the game more
Is it true that surge staff kills hordes quickly in sedition?
lunar hollow
i'm sure you'd have handled it if it wasn't pushed by the surge user. what with ...
i uh
i have no fucking idea what i was doing
this was from 3 months ago
spice veldt
don't worry it's ogryn rp
lunar hollow
basically before i had my first conscious experience
i've been over this before this is one of those josho cryptid clips
im engaging in pub player behavior
crystal jolt
i've had an equal amount of trauma users blowing up bursters in my face as i have had surge users pushing bursters in my direction
plucky flax
It's just op mane
crystal jolt
i just don't like that surge leaves it alive
spice veldt
i don't encounter trauma psykers enough to be as annoyed at them unfortunately
lunar hollow
i have one (1) instance i remember of a pub trauma psyker doing it
spice veldt
though they can be so fucking annoying when they decide to trauma the enemies i'm fighting
spice veldt
trust no one
lunar hollow
though they can be so fucking annoying when they decide to trauma the enemies i'...
me when i get a game with trauma and voidstrike psykers
and they decide the enemies im fighting are the ones that need to be knocked around constantly
lunar hollow
voidstrike macro users stay winning
on their way to still not do nearly as much damage as me
spice veldt
staffs have some downtime after each cast that can be animation cancelled by quelling, so people tend to make a script that does this cancel automatically
lunar hollow
voidstrike users actually hurt my eyes the most
because if they shoot a ball at u and it passes through ur head
it flashes the screen white
ornate hamlet
on their way to still not do nearly as much damage as me
what do u use?
his attitude
lmao
it's the most damaging weapon in the game
plucky flax
Caring about damage 
lunar hollow
Caring about damage <:FeelsStrongMan:880925680416743505>
i have nothing left to chase
ornate hamlet
i mean who doesnt want damage
ornate hamlet
the bitch way
lunar hollow
the illisi especially
plucky flax
If I care that much I'd just play bolter vet every game and make it boring for the other 3.
ornate hamlet
i was gonna go illisi but not lvl 15 yet
lunar hollow
force swords are very irritating to grind
plucky flax
Well you're the one chasing damage so I'm proud for you instead.
ornate hamlet
i use low lvl weapons rn anyways
lunar hollow
cuz there's a lot of blessings and a bunch of them are inherently useless or worse than other options
lunar hollow
Well you're the one chasing damage so I'm proud for you instead.
the tables have turned
i cant believe this
mossy surge
Well you're the one chasing damage so I'm proud for you instead.
Go to bed 
plucky flax
I'm listening to music.
lunar hollow
here's an example of the power u can wield once u give in to melee psyker
plucky flax
Preparing myself to get grilled by sgt tomorrow.
ornate hamlet
nerd scoreboard
lunar hollow
trauma can function quite effectively as a primary weapon but i find melee more useful since force sword has infinite dodges and is just fun
feral verge
i run illisi/trauma
bitch you dont run shit
lunar hollow
so its more of an "oh my god thats 6 ragers and theyre running at me" type weapon
feral verge
you walkin
lunar hollow
bitch you dont run shit
shut up you cripple
prime cairn
im thinking about getting the game but idk
spice veldt
and holding out your melee to melee-lock enemies
ornate hamlet
trauma can function quite effectively as a primary weapon but i find melee more ...
other weapons dont have infinite???
lunar hollow
other weapons dont have infinite???
only force swords
others have a dodge limit and effective dodge limit
plucky flax
i have nothing left to chase
Btw you can chase grimoires run. 
lunar hollow
the inspect button will tell you most weapons have anywhere from 2-5
spice veldt
yeah you'll have to wait 0.85 seconds for your dodges to refresh
feral verge
here are some illisi melee games
lunar hollow
Btw you can chase grimoires run. <a:Hide:695032840152154162>
i do sometimes
ornate hamlet
the inspect button will tell you most weapons have anywhere from 2-5
only used force swords so far
lunar hollow
i've just like, genuinely ran out of things that i need ordos for
plucky flax
Nah its too hard can't do it.
lunar hollow
nerd scoreboard
you're a nerd
spice veldt
mine
feral verge
i love scoreboard
lunar hollow
i don't get matches long enough for 650k damage lol
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
true that was a 43 minute game
wet belfry
spice veldt
on vigil station
lunar hollow
see
spice veldt
damn
feral verge
1 hourt 15 min
spice veldt
that was back in the era when i wasn't as comfortable with pushing ranged patrols and I think maybe when they weren't nerfed yet
i forget when the ranged nerfs happened
lunar hollow
the ranged nerfs were mostly just shotgunners not being the strongest enemy type by far
wet belfry
who the fuck plays one match for that long
A masochist
spice veldt
stalkers had their toughness multiplier dropped from 4x to 3x
feral verge
shotgunners used to be terrifying
lunar hollow
i still cant remember the difference in feel for the different aggro ranges
spice veldt
and scab shooters having their base damage dropped
lunar hollow
stalkers had their toughness multiplier dropped from 4x to 3x
i spent a good long while sucking vs ranged either way
spice veldt
same
lunar hollow
shooter toughness damage basically scales up to having like at max 2 shooting at u
and then from that point there's no extra damage
since they just eat the entire bar
unless ur a vet
spice veldt
i had many a games where I just died from walking into a firing line
nowadays, i escape with 10% of my hp remaining
such is the process of learning
spice veldt
yeah that turns out to work well most times
lunar hollow
anyways i think this is my best scoreboard ever
spice veldt
even if it seems like it wouldn't work out
lunar hollow
using very rough josho math this was like 24k damage a minute or something
lunar hollow
arco is my plasteel roomba and gives me better ammo economy by having a staff
he's a healslut and he doesnt even know it
spice veldt
feral verge
what am i to you, then? @lunar hollow
lunar hollow
what am i to you, then? <@445566734255259648>
entertainment
spice veldt
true
feral verge
🤡
spice veldt
you do fall off pipes a lot
lunar hollow
feral verge
it's a tactical fall
ornate hamlet
lunar hollow
this armor looks better on men
spice veldt
yeah you murder me instead
feral verge
OMFA
lunar hollow
omfa
spice veldt
oomfie boomfie
ornate hamlet
this armor looks better on men
don't worry, I'm sure we can find a cosmetic combination for you one day ✊ 😔
spice veldt
a mix of OMFG and OSHA?
lunar hollow
i have my drip
feral verge
i am osha certified
ornate hamlet
but you said it looks better on men
lunar hollow
ornate hamlet
see, it ugly
lunar hollow
the clipping is the worst part
this is on a man what the fuck are you trying to imply
ornate hamlet
find a man to put the armor on
lunar hollow
ornate hamlet
you're a BOY
feral verge
a fem boy
ornate hamlet
lunar hollow
im not the one who sounds like a soft sensitive slutt when i get thrown by a mutie into the abyss
smh
ornate hamlet
I am not soft, I am a danger to all around me and am under imminent threat of daemonic possession
lunar hollow
give me an incentive and i won't
spice veldt
i gave my life up for mankar who in turn picked you back up
therefore, by the transitive property, it was me who picked you up
spice veldt
eat ass
lunar hollow
feral verge
what's better. giving your life for mankar, or giving your life for the dragon?
lunar hollow
strongest turkish woman
feral verge
lmao
spice veldt
exposing ur weak psyker arms for everyone to see
spice veldt
oh right
feral verge
meanwhile my psyker looks beefed
spice veldt
i forgot a dirty zealot was in here with us
lunar hollow
my psyker looks more manly than my zealot does
without the skirt cosmetic
that is
ornate hamlet
I need tit plates
lunar hollow
i want armored legs
for zealot
please god i dont wanna wear pajama pants with knee pads anymore
feral verge
ornate hamlet
I didn't build a two-meter-tall mommy zealot so she could be flat as a fucking board
lunar hollow
I didn't build a two-meter-tall mommy zealot so she could be flat as a fucking b...
l + ratio + the god emperor is gay
feral verge
female judge and female loner
lunar hollow
malechads stay winning
ornate hamlet
feral verge
freak
lunar hollow
now imagine what that looks like with that one toilet bowl cosmetic
spice veldt
penis sword
you have no rights
ornate hamlet
I have both arms, left and right
lunar hollow
but i did get him to admit he laughed at least once
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
im laughing at the terrible terrible person who would make such a vulgar statement
lunar hollow
the noise u make will not be laughter when i do such vulgar things to u
feral verge
ya'll are far beyond any kind of redemption or salvation
spice veldt
ya'll are far beyond any kind of redemption or salvation
you of all people saying this
lunar hollow
also true
lunar hollow
f
feral verge
got a weird bug
my feats switched over
but my gear did not
so i had my purga build feats, on my melee illisi/surge setup
(even though the only difference is ab and kb between the feats)
regal jasper
I love how vastly different the class chats are
Its so hot in my room apparently plastic are melting
Yay!
junior pier
probably had something to go do irl why ?
junior pier
takes alot more then that for me to ragequit a lobby 🙂 sorry for bailing anyways
nice box snipe do 👍
lunar hollow
ty
feral verge
I forgive you
ornate hamlet
does the force staffs attacks count as a warp attack or only brain burst thing?
for this
spice veldt
basically anything that generates peril to use counts as a warp attack (force staff primaries/secondaries, force sword specials, & BB)
Soulblaze (from the Purgatus staff and your feats) also counts
ornate hamlet
alright thanks man
regal jasper
I wish warp charge didn’t drain as fast
ornate hamlet
i mean its almost 30 seconds
regal jasper
Keeping it for 300 seconds is hard
hidden crystal
<@445566734255259648>
Did you, at any time, tell him to pull the lever?
white sky
Keeping it for 300 seconds is hard
It'll become second nature at some point and you'll just get it
regal jasper
Yeah
white sky
Don't stress about the penance itself
hidden crystal
Keeping it for 300 seconds is hard
You want to do that one on Enclavum Baross
pine relic
regal jasper
You want to do that one on Enclavum Baross
Alright ill try
hidden crystal
It's the only mission that has no lifts where you get unavoidably stuck with nothing to kill or airlocks where one person can dawdle while your charges are bleeding away.
regal jasper
Oh cool
hidden crystal
The penance is still a bit of a headache, but at least things are better than when your charges decayed all at once rather than one at a time.
That was not a fun time.
spice veldt
consignment yard is where i got mines, since it's a fairly linear map that's easy to just hold W into
ornate hamlet
for what do you need to keep the warp charge for 300 seconds?
spice veldt
i think i got it at the final part of consignment yard leading into the finale
hidden crystal
consignment yard is where i got mines, since it's a fairly linear map that's eas...
Yeah, that's better than most; I think there's only one airlock in it where a player can hold the entire team up.
spice veldt
oh wait consignment yard has that airlock
yeah i forgot about that right at the finale
feral verge
Idk when I got it, but I got it p easy when I tried going for it
spice veldt
i'm not sure if I got it during the finale or before it
I think I was running a purg build for it
lunar hollow
i got basically every psyker penance on my first serious attempt at it
i would go into the min difficulty required, get it in a mission, and then leave
like i got old pick n mix on a heresy hi int shock troop with the first KB ult i used
spice veldt
i got the old pick n mix on the same day that commsplex dropped
hidden crystal
for what do you need to keep the warp charge for 300 seconds?
You need to remain at maximum warp charge (either 4 charges or 6, depending on your traits) for a consecutive five minutes.
spice veldt
guess which map I got it on
ornate hamlet
You need to remain at maximum warp charge (either 4 charges or 6, depending on y...
yeah but for what, a achievement?
lunar hollow
i have used kb for over a hundred hours u whorre
lunar hollow
guess which map I got it on
smelter
feral verge
It's your least levelled class
spice veldt
ye, and I think it's one of the ones that are tied to cosmetics? don't quote me on that
feral verge
Because you lack the skill
lunar hollow
i have plenty of skill
feral verge
You lack the stomach for it
lunar hollow
im so good at psyker i ruin the fun for other people
lunar hollow
thats why i play it the least
spice veldt
whatever dumdum
hidden crystal
yeah but for what, a achievement?
I can't remember what it gets you these days; they changed what a lot of the penance rewards were when they moved a load to the Redacted section.
lunar hollow
whatever dumdum
ive done nothing to deserve this treatment
i got the old blow urself up one on the first group of malice shotgunners i found
spice veldt
top 10 lies
feral verge
You've done everything
lunar hollow
top 10 lies
😦
feral verge
I got cucked when I tried to do that penance
hidden crystal
On the note of the Warp Battery penance, this is an old screenshot now, but:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1114584255943684126/image.png
lunar hollow
i got old malleus monstronum in a pub with shieldgryn
we had to kill 2 DHs cuz this ironhelm zealot hit the first DH once
hidden crystal
Three fragging seconds.
feral verge
I killed 3 shotgunners, but didn't get it. Why? Because kinetic flayer procced on one of them.
spice veldt
(owned)
feral verge
From my explosion
feral verge
Mankar l
lunar hollow
man kinetic flayer really doesn't like you guys
sounds like a problem... you wouldn't have... with battery...
spice veldt
mankar was the one who died from my flayer proc so sucks for him
lunar hollow
YOU
feral verge
I don't use flayer anymore
spice veldt
oh did i
feral verge
I only use battery
spice veldt
well mankar died so
lunar hollow
YOU DID
spice veldt
i love flayer
i would never ever give it up
(except for when i forget to equip it)
lunar hollow
alzheimers
feral verge
Seems thoroughly meh to me
spice veldt
i don't like BBing randomly so i have it for maintaining warp charges
lunar hollow
the trick is that arco intentionally puts himself where flayer is useful and if you play like a sane person it won't do much
smh
spice veldt
witness this sheer display of skill https://streamable.com/61nody
lunar hollow
every clip he posts where it does something is socially engineered
spice veldt
how else can you show off if you are not so horribly and terribly positioned out of your own doing
spice veldt
if you ignore the fact that I surrounded myself with maulers and am 10 lightyears from my team, this is a cool clip
feral verge
And that it looks like it was filmed using an acorn
lunar hollow
spice veldt
And that it looks like it was filmed using an acorn
you're an acorn
feral verge
Darcy bad at game confirmed
raven zenith
which of the two should i research? they both seem great. intend to put it on an illisi sometimes
feral verge
which of the two should i research? they both seem great. intend to put it on an...
1000000% slaughterer
blazing spirit is neat, but it is a meme
slaughterer is one of the most powerful blessings in the game
no, the most powerful, probably
raven zenith
well then :D
feral verge
blazing spirit is a meme because everything dies before it really sets on fire
meanwhile slaughterer just turns your weapon into a blender
feral verge
power is everything
damage, cleave, stagger
this is the best damage setup for illisi
slaughterer and unstable power
unstable power stacks 4x. the tool tip is incomplete
so its 20% more power at 80% or more peril
spice veldt
(nice illisi)
fluid knot
Ghost ping 
feral verge
oh oops
spice veldt
deceiving yourself
raven zenith
funnily enough i've got unstable power and slaughterer, both level 4, but i can't put both on because one slot is locked 
feral verge
here's my actual illisi
hidden crystal
no, the most powerful, probably
I rather anticipate it getting a nerf at some point; it's so over the top compared to anything else.
spice veldt
though if they don't change the kill condition, it'd be nice for that alone
feral verge
unless they completely and utterly change the entire blessing (Which i dont dont they will do) to be stagger or something
spice veldt
executor would be nice if it didn't have one of the worst god damn conditions in existence
hidden crystal
My vote would be to make the bonus per kill much smaller (like a couple of percent each), but be able to stack 20 times or something.
So it could still get up to a pretty high power boost, but you'd need to actually work to get there.
spice veldt
that seems like a nice change
lunar hollow
until they start seriously overhauling how blessing works slaughterer probably won't be changed
gloomy gulch
I guess I am making a crit void staff now too....
lunar hollow
it isn't even a problem on some weapons, like on chainaxe or hammer it can't overcome a target damage cap because 0 +75% is still 0
gloomy gulch
the staves for me this weekend dang
lunar hollow
and chainaxe is kinda just sad in general
hidden crystal
that seems like a nice change
Yeah, it'd obviously still be a pretty big nerf, but I think it'd still be very worth having (hopefully enough to not annoy everyone who's got it locked on existing weapons, which is a major problem if you're going to have both locks and balance changes...), while also making other blessings less overshadowed in comparison.
stark ivy
Hey is the lightning staff bad or am I just bad?
spice veldt
it has nice stuns (and is the only weapon that can stun a mutant) but it sacrifices virtually every other attribute for it
with regards to your own damage output, it's primarily for enabling your melee
stark ivy
Alright got it, thank you.
spice veldt
you might see the lightning VFX jump to a bunch of targets as you move your mouse around, but it picks a few targets at the beginning-ish of the cast and will only damage/stun those
the staff bolt LMB benefits a lot from crits, so the crit bonus from surge has that going for it
unkempt snow
newbie here. is the force staff worth mastering? the guns seem more reliable for dps in a pinch.
swift kite
newbie here. is the force staff worth mastering? the guns seem more reliable for...
trauma force staff is good at cc and can roll perks that can weaken/debuff big bois and girls
imo its worth mastering it. for reliable dps might be better to use brain burst and the perks that reduce peril
spice veldt
the lack of single-target ranged burst DPS from guns does suck since force staffs don't offer that
but yeah guns and our (current) force staffs offer different things
the only problematic thing about guns is the lack of synergy with toughness feats
regal jasper
Phyker should just kill whatever is on screen just by looking
spice veldt
but the autopistol also has inspiring barrage
regal jasper
No peril
spice veldt
besides the autopistol, i feel more comfy with staffs (mostly Trauma) because of the peril gen yeah for quetitude and whatnot
white sky
I'm sorry what
lunar hollow
there was this fucking bug report
and the guy said that using a psyker ult would make snipers spawn after a certain amount of time
it sounds so fucking bizarre but im pretty sure it got acknowledged... whatever that means
white sky
How in the fuck
lunar hollow
i have no. goddamn. clue.
hidden crystal
the only problematic thing about guns is the lack of synergy with toughness feat...
Indeed. The only option that works at all with guns is combining Essence Harvest and Psychic Communion, in order to get Toughness back from the occasional warp charges it gives, but that's not even possible until Lvl 15.
There's a few tricks that mitigate this a bit (my MG12 has Ghost and Between the Eyes, so I'm pretty resistant to ranged damage in general), but it's still not great. (However, still can't be bothered to grind up a Veteran - getting good gear would be a pain).
regal jasper
it sounds so fucking bizarre but im pretty sure it got acknowledged... whatever ...
That hasn’t happened to you?
Every game
hidden crystal
How in the fuck
If it happens, then my assumption is that it's something like that the ult may not technically have a maximum range, so the pulse continues to move through the map and hit enemies even after it's no longer got any stagger power left.
Normally, that wouldn't be significant, as most enemies don't spawn that far ahead, so they're just not there to trigger. However, snipers do spawn at long ranges.
However, that said, I can't say I've particularly noticed any such effect if it happens.
lunar hollow
i've never noticed it. allegedly that guy did
regal jasper
What the emote keybind?
lunar hollow
in mourningstar? whatever your jump key is
hidden crystal
most enemies don't spawn that far ahead
This can become really quite apparent if you're waiting for a rescue; on some occasions, I've seen large numbers of enemies spawn in and out around the rescue because the surviving players had to retreat and the game director adjusted based on where the active players were.
lyric burrow
i feel like it would be hard to prove that its actually causing that to happen
and not just snipers spawning in
regal jasper
in mourningstar? whatever your jump key is
Ah so mouse 5 thanks
lunar hollow
yea for me its v
regal jasper
Ngl i hate upgrading things just to get a better version directly after
I don’t have the plasteels
hidden crystal
There's only so far it's worth upgrading anything until you're max level.
Partly because you can't get the best raw stats, partly because the lower difficulties are pretty stingy about how much plasteel you get.
fluid knot
Its simply not worth spending mats until max level
Save the meagre amounts of mats you do get, because you'll want them more at max than during the levelling process @regal jasper
fluid knot
Good stuff man
slow raven
i stopped playing like 6 months ago, so much has changed. trauma staffs aren't garbage anymore? force swords are better than a random combat axe? one thing that hasnt changed is plasteel being the only resource in the game
lunar hollow
trauma staff has significantly less peril generation
and the 2 new force swords are both better than the illisi
not illisi
obscurus
spice veldt
and the 2 new force swords are both better than the illisi
you can smell the sleep deprivation
spice veldt
lunar hollow
fuck you
spice veldt
owned
slow raven
jan 25, that came out like a week after i stopped playing
spice veldt
i think it was if you got a warp charge at max warp charges, it delivered soulblaze to a nearby enemy prioritizing elites/specials
spice veldt
took me a hot second to remember
lunar hollow
i knew it was somehow related
but somewhere in the mess that is my brain the knowledge was lost
spice veldt
mild lotus
and the 2 new force swords are both better than the illisi
that's very Josho to say
ornate hamlet
siblings, I need advice on how good this weapon is and what should I roll for in terms of blessings and perks
mild lotus
stop please im tired ok
weird way to spell cute
compact cargo
siblings, I need advice on how good this weapon is and what should I roll for in...
Hey look it's purgatus without the fps drop
ornate hamlet
what fps drop. never heard of it 
mild lotus
What do all the staffs do?
varying degree of zap zap
regal jasper
Ah cool
mild lotus
sometime even boom
spice veldt
trauma is an explosion and purgatus is a flamethrower
regal jasper
Oh ok
regal jasper
sometime even boom
Oh wow
rustic vault
so whats the most well rounded staff choice?
regal jasper
Mine
spice veldt
trauma as long as the enemies that you want to explode aren't on a grate stairway
rustic vault
any perks to look for?
spice veldt
crit only for a blazing spirit/warp nexus build
I personally run some combination of warp flurry/rending shockwave/focused channeling as my blessings
rustic vault
oh sotty, blessinjg
regal jasper
Can you roll blessing or do you need to steal then?
spice veldt
for that particular blessing configuration, I like +Unarmoured to one-shot Dreg Bruisers (450hp) reliably, and +Flak for hitting a two-shot breakpoint on Dreg Gunners with two full charges (and helping against the flak melee elites)
blessings work differently than perks in that you'll have to "earn" them from a weapon
destroying that weapon in the process
rustic vault
soul blaze build sounds hilarious
spice veldt
but you keep that blessing in your collection forever
rustic vault
what perks should i be taking on my psyker these days?
spice veldt
feat choice sort of depends, and i will have a very biased perspective because of the build I run (trauma + illisi with a melee focus)
quietitude is a nice generalist pick, especially if you're running Trauma which has the highest peril generation over time
warp unleashed is very strong; you can go for inner tranq if running a warp flurry Trauma build; wrack & ruin has its use if you're running Voidstrike or Surge which don't have infinite cleave
your lvl15 and lvl25 feat choices are often tied together; if you're lazy on your warp charge economy, people tend to pick either psychic communion (lvl15) and/or kinetic flayer
i personally run psykinetic's aura (lvl15) + kinetic flayer (lvl25)
your lvl20 feat choices can be left up to personal discretion, but unless you're running Trauma, you usually want Kinetic Deflection for the ability to revive inside a horde; Mind in Motion is a very niche and not very useful pick if you're dodging while quelling.
cosmic sigil
so whats the most well rounded staff choice?
Autopistol staff
compact cargo
Headhunter is the best staff
lunar hollow
weird way to spell cute
this is a dangerous thing to say
cosmic sigil
You put the gun at the tip of your stick!
rustic vault
if i wanted to use a gun i would no t havbe picked the witch
cosmic sigil
😔
rustic vault
no im kidding do tell
cosmic sigil
The gun is a valid choice. It's an alternative to the staff.
It's benefits from warp unleash, kinetic presence, charges, flayer or battery. And you can surcharge ascendant blaze with power blessings.
rustic vault
how does it play
cosmic sigil
Short range = illisi
Long range / armored targets = bb
Everything in between, gun
I use either the revolver for quick dispatch of elites and specials or the Autopistol with flayer
It helps tremendously when you want to kill a mutie
It's an agressive way of playing, more in the frontlines
You mitigate DMG with either kinetic shield if you play high peril with your illisi or deflection (mostly in combination with deflector as a second blessing with slaughterer)
cosmic sigil
I use inspiring barrage now on the Autopistol. Pinning fire is enough power and toughness on demand without quelling is a compelling argument
First one is whatever. Most people tend to run quietude. You cannot go wrong with it. I use mostly warp absorption (I spam activate a lot with my illisi).
Second feat is warp unleashed because it's 10% at 0 peril
Third is the first one, giving you warp charges on kill
Fourth is either shield or deflection
Fifth is either battery or flayer (guns with high rof)
Sixth is often ascendant blaze with the Autopistol but barrage is a very good choice too. It depends if you bb a lot
limber silo
I've been enjoying the mk 5 duelling sword
2 wcs, and every special lesser than a trapper is one shot
I run it with purge and 212112
long summit
Is it possible for Trauma Staff's secondary attack to hit a weak spot?
bleak tulip
no
long summit
Thanks.
I have this staff and I wanted to know what blessing should I replace with what. I wasn't really sure. I like this staff. I was thinking, replace Rending Shockwave with Warp Flurry and leaning into Sustained Fire. But idk how sustain fire works. What counts as a Second and Third shot? Does it mean only the primary attack? Is every shot after the 3rd not buffed, or does it reset back to 1? There are too many variables.
bleak tulip
iirc that only applies to left click
seems its still that way
warp flurry is always good
rending is probably a solid choice too tbh
sustained fire is more of a gun type thing, not sure why they let it roll on staves
design wise I think they expected people to use staff primary more, but by its nature its a bit annoying to use and 95% of the time staves with the bolt only use right click or quell cancel left clicks
fiery plume
Is the Illisi able to be set up to one shot Mutants? Also for horde clear, should Illsi's warp attack be used on heavies or lights? What's the optimal monstrosity combo?
cosmic sigil
@spice veldt
he has the information you want
but yeah, slaughterer 4 + unstable 4 + 80 peril and 4 charges could oneshot a mutant iirc
here's the information you're looking for
long summit
sustained fire is more of a gun type thing, not sure why they let it roll on sta...
Melancholic
regal jasper
Blows up pancakes with mind
long summit
design wise I think they expected people to use staff primary more, but by its n...
I guess that explains why staves can have run n gun
grizzled iris
They let the staves have those blessings because they couldn't figure out more blessings to give them and they didn't want people to get a perfect one so easily so they just threw in a lot of gun blessings to fill out the blessings pool.
long summit
Well then make the primary fire on staves cool and good 😠
regal jasper
Average psyker
grizzled iris
steel flame
Well then make the primary fire on staves cool and good 😠
primary fire on surge staff goes burrr. course the 45% crit rate with nexus kinda helps with that, but i wish it was like single target lightning bolts instead of generic warp balls
what i really want is justice for staff specials
what were they thinking
a bonk that does almost no damage and has no purpose
wtf fatshark
long summit
The Stub special makes me want to cry. Can't even charge it. Then the audacity to give it the Point Blank blessing. 😢
mild lotus
Average psyker
fixed that for you
steel egret
fixed that for you
Mission starts, I blow up to assert dominance.
rigid sky
Thanks.
I have this staff and I wanted to know what blessing should I replace wi...
Rending Shockwave is amazing for Trauma. A lot of my wipes on Damnation come from a multi-mauler/Crusher cluster, and being able to shred their armour with Trauma is one of its best utilities. I run with warp flurry + rending.
long summit
That's what I just re-blessed my staff to. And it's funny you say that, cause almost everytime I wipe it's my team getting jumped by some combination of 3 disablers. Sometimes with a boss included. I specifically just die when 3 groaners decide to attack me at once. Whoops.
rigid sky
I think the other common build is high crit with nexus and blazing spirit but I haven't seen anybody actually use it in action
I tend to be bad at timing those overheads so to me Crushers are disablers lol
steel flame
Rending Shockwave is amazing for Trauma. A lot of my wipes on Damnation come fro...
that is what i use to run a while back, but im firmly entrenched in nexus blazing spirit and quell cancelling. crushers and maulers have ceased to be issues since they cant even move with the trauma spam
long summit
I think the other common build is high crit with nexus and blazing spirit but I ...
I would love to run this, but I just don't have one and just recently (today i think) earned Blazing Spirirt.
rigid sky
I only really mess with soulblaze with a dedicated purgatus build
I'm all fire or no fire
steel flame
people used to think it was a meme, then Pygex and I started our fire trauma propoganda campaign
rigid sky
Maybe I should try Shredder too at some point for the ascendent Blaze memes
long summit
Oh i misspoke about how I die. The series of events is more like this: I'm playing great, having a good time, a sniper hits on his first shot mid alert voiceline, I lose anywhere between 75% and 99% of my total hp, THEN THE 3 GROANERS ATTACK ME AT ONCE AND I DIE.
rigid sky
Thank you latency
steel flame
ta da
its the only full mission i remembered to record and its not my best but its what you get 😛
fossil lagoon
steel flame
stick flack on there
over block
and well....thats it
you can do whatever you want on your second blessing slot since you have slaughter 4 already, unstable is good, deflector is good
grizzled iris
people used to think it was a meme, then Pygex and I started our fire trauma pro...
Send me the specifics in dmg on perks modifiers and the quell cancelling and I'll try it out
zealous sierra
Does deflector work during revival
And does it have to be when I have my sword out
ornate hamlet
is this surge staff any good?
grizzled iris
Does deflector work during revival
It doesn't work, they removed that long ago
lethal folio
steel flame
is this surge staff any good?
id look for better
you are really gonna feel that warp resist
plucky flax
Wtf that's op
zealous sierra
I have no idea how to use it well
plucky flax
Flak maniac then just click
steel flame
Send me the specifics in dmg on perks modifiers and the quell cancelling and I'l...
well for stats you want to try and get a max blast rate and charge rate trauma, high damage, and at least 70 warp resist and at least 60 quell speed. For perks you Need to have 5% crit chance and then flack or whatever you want for the other one. For blessings you NEED both Warp Nexus 4 and Blazing Spirit 3 (there is no BS 4 because........hell if i know). As for quell canceling, Basically what you are doing is Hitting your quell key as soon as you finish your cast and that will cancel the end of the cast animation allowing you to go into another cast extremely fast and it looks like this here https://streamable.com/pzwzc8 You can do quell canceling on the m1 and the m2 charge, and you can do this on every staves attacks, the spam is best to get your 6 stacks of soulblaze going on a horde and for locking down stuff like ragers, crushers, maulers, ranged units of all sorts. then you can transition to higher charges for killing, back and forth and so on
steel flame
I have no idea how to use it well
special heavy attacks to get slaughter going, killing specials and generationg peril for more damage/toughness regen (with warp unleashed and quietude respectively), heavy attacks are where you damage is while light attacks do less damage but are also alot safer in hordes at times
push and push attacks to create space for special heavy attacks
and continue the cycle
delete hordes
zealous sierra
special heavy attacks to get slaughter going, killing specials and generationg p...
Why quiettude
steel flame
wdym?
its the best toughness regen perk right now
its also great with the illi sword cause you can spam the special charge to keep generating peril for on demand toughness regen if you need it
if your toughness is drained you can take cover, spam the special charge, gain a bunch of peril, and quell it for toughness regen
my auto correct is broken
it keeps changing spam to smap
sigh
strong gulch
Great sword. Congrats.
Seconding everything that been said.
Definitely keep Slaughterer. I prefer Deflector for defense and utility it brings. You can try Unstable for more damage. If you you prefer deflector, then you can put it back on.
Positioning is really important in this game, and if you struggle with it, Deflector gives you room to recover.
Quietitude is definitely the most adaptable toughness regen option. Especially if you use warp melee and ranged options. So are always building and quelling peril anyways. It's the only option for building toughness when you are alone or unable to kill something.
steel flame
So no deflector?
Personally I prefer unstable but I also play hyper aggressive on the builds that use illi so I prefer the extra killing power. Deflector is also an excellent blessing that people find success with
zealous sierra
There are time where I walked into a room of gunners
And wish I had deflecter as I am half way through the room
To retreat XD
steel flame
It do be like that sometimes. Great thing about the sword you rolled is that you can change it to either at any point since you can lock in slaughter 4
zealous sierra
What's the mutant damage for again
strong gulch
Warp Absortion is great at giving you more melee tankiness if you're killing stuff with illisi special.
That can be helpful if you're you get constant nicks in melee to quickly build toughness that doesn't make melee stop.
However, that can lead to bad habits. Position, enemy awareness, and coherency should cover you. Can't ber perfect all of the time tho
Still, Quietitude is more versitile.
bleak tulip
So no deflector?
deflector is low key pointless imo
steel flame
other problem is that it cant give you regen when you usally need it it most, when your in poke battles where you dont have easy kills for toughness regen
bleak tulip
it can save you if you fucked up and get caught out, but ideall you dont wanna get into that situation
steel flame
deflector is low key pointless imo
its very much not pointless, just not required. it isnt needed for every playstyle
bleak tulip
I consider it a crutch but hey sure its not entirely pointless, as I said in my follow up
steel flame
lol
strong gulch
So preference is the second blessing of choice here.
steel flame
personally i dont use deflector anymore like i used to but i still recognize the value it provides
plucky flax
Yeah just no need to slander another person's preference as pointless is all. 
steel flame
Unstable power is lowkey pointless imo... <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
ill agree unstable is a little overkill on illi, though it is kinda required on Deimos for alot of oneshots,
plucky flax
I play deimos differently. I use special heavy way more than light 1 heavy 2 combo.
And special heavy can kill all specials and elites with 1 hit barring mutie. Which only requires a follow up light 1 to finish it off.
For my playstyle I don't need unstable power on deimos.
steel flame
its too bad bloodthirsty doesnt have time limit like it used to or multiple hits or it might actually be useful in a lot of builds
rip non meme fire illi
strong gulch
rest in peas
steel flame
man if it lasted 5 seconds like it used too you could keep those 12 stacks of fire goin forever
would be super busted, but then again illi already is soooooo
bleak tulip
Yeah just no need to slander another person's preference as pointless is all. <:...
thats why I said "imo" bruh 
strong gulch
Right? Didn't Bloodthirsty get nerfed right when the new force swords were launched?
bleak tulip
I aint slandering anybodies shit, I am just stating my own opinion
plucky flax
It's imo too unstable is pointless.
steel flame
it was nerfed into the ground baby, even fatshark knew how busted fire Illi was destined to be and cut it off at the knees before it could be born
RIP Bloodthirst BS illi we never got to use
its sad though, the only thing holding back Bloodthristy blazing spirit on the obscurs sword was its absolute trash attack cycle
of only the sweep was the first attack instead of the strikedown ;~;
bleak tulip
idk light heavy was usually fine
its not that much slower
part of me misses the sheer single target weak spot damage of obscurus on illisi but not that much
strong gulch
That was my feeling when switching to illisi. Don't much care now.
steel flame
idk light heavy was usually fine
im talking about spreading fire.
the attack pattern on obscurus sucked at spreading fire, and we also didnt have wildfire too so oof
zealous sierra
How they nerf blood thirsty?
steel flame
you used to have 100% crits for 5 seconds after a kill with the FS special
now you get one crit after the FS special kill
im sure you can figure out why that would be broken on illi
steel flame
maniac?
yeah
you can put unarmored on it but youre already killing the trash mobs super fast so having more damage on specials and ragers is much prefered
zealous sierra
What to find with deimos?
velvet stratus
How to fight ragers in melee without the mk4?
steel flame
How to fight ragers in melee without the mk4?
option one...dont let the ragers get close
strong gulch
A special to the head with illisi will stagger ragers.
steel flame
option 2 dodge back to avoid melee chain and engage after thier last attack
if its deimos you can go for trhe kill after ragers last attack with h2, with illi you can stagger them with special and slice em to death
but you have to do it after their rush or you will just get yourself killed
whole oxide
or just knock 'em over with force-push
steel flame
doesnt work on flak ragers
and if they are running at you it wont always stop the unarmored ones either
strong gulch
You can def knock them over, but the window between push and push attack can get your guts run through.
steel flame
usually better just to kill them with your staff or gun rather than engage them in melee
all the staves can stop them dead
strong gulch
For sure.
steel flame
and most of the guns chew through them
bleak tulip
does purg primary stagger scab ragers?
bleak tulip
cant say thats been my first instinct, but I also havent played a shitton of purg until fairly recently
strong gulch
To be fair. The first puff just kinda blows light at them. Primary spam wil stun lock most things.
ornate hamlet
just used purg and i have a bit of a problem with the range sometimes
near wyvern
I read crab ragers 😂
near wyvern
just used purg and i have a bit of a problem with the range sometimes
Cloud radius stat is important
strong gulch
just used purg and i have a bit of a problem with the range sometimes
That is it's weakness. Cloud radius helps.
You can slide and charge to close the gap. That way you can have your flame ready to go.
It's pretty strong without AB (ascendant blaze). So you can do KB (kinetic barrage) for faster ranged head pops.
grizzled iris
Modifier priority on staves.
Purgatus: Dmg 76+, Burn 76+, radius 76+
Trauma: Charge rate >80, radius >80
Surge:Do we even bother to care?
Voidstrike: Dmg >80, radius >80, charge >80
olive ember
Direct damage
which still contributes a decent amount
like 40% ish of the damage iirc
its def not a priority tho
radius > burn > dmg
plucky flax
Mine has 26% damage
olive ember
the thing is that the variation is kinda small, in that the range is literally 9-11 iirc, so the difference from 0 to 100% dmg roll is literally 2 dmg a tick
steel flame
Modifier priority on staves.
Purgatus: Dmg 76+, Burn 76+, radius 76+
Trauma: Cha...
If you wanna do the critacular m1
Spam machine gun Surge you def want damage crit and warp resistance maxed out
ornate hamlet
That is it's weakness. Cloud radius helps.
You can slide and charge to close th...
do you not get slowed down when you charge it mid slide?
strong gulch
do you not get slowed down when you charge it mid slide?
If you get staggered out of the slide, then yes.
Otherwise is just like regular sliding.
Another tactic is sliding up and using primary to stagger and then secondary to unleash the flames.
proud hare
has the game improved since release?
safe crystal
has the game improved since release?
Somewhat yes. Psykers specifically got some good QoL stuff, such as warp charges being removed one at a time instead of all at once, the new force swords being really good, and quell buffed across the board.
There is crafting now, but you have to gamble at least twice (first finding a good base grey/green from the shop, then upgrading it without it becoming a brick), which is just awful design.
Performance is still eh, its a bit better than at launch but still has some issues.
strong gulch
Yes it is better, but there is till work to be done.
proud hare
thing that killed me for the game was when i did all the penences for psyker when game came out and then they made them easyer to do
strong gulch
There's some newer penances now. Some have pretty cool cosmetics.
I'm not personally put out the change in difficulty of getting them done, but I can see that causing friction for someone else.
twilit veldt
thing that killed me for the game was when i did all the penences for psyker whe...
i think im only missing the one where you gotta kill a monster alone with BB, since in pubs the chance of people listening is pretty much 0
and maybe the one where you gotta blow yourself up and kill 3 elites
i dont remember
safe crystal
Monster one can only be done in private games now, and you only need 1 elite kill with the suicide
safe crystal
I did both of them in December, when it was 100% damage to monsters and 3 elites exploded 
I failed the first time with the monster one because the enemies (?) shot the bonbon once and that counts as damage
twilit veldt
ill see if i can do it when i join some chill premade
slug or plogryn are easy to solo, but i hate the CS
sometimes dodging works to avoid the grab, sometimes i get grabbed even when im nowhere near
i think its a problem with the server connection or something, cuz in VT2 which was peer 2 peer i never had issues soloing minibosses
safe crystal
Bonbon is the easiest since it takes more damage than the other monstrosities from brain burst, but you need to be in an area where you can run circles with it. Shieldgryn holding a daemonhost in place is another easy option
safe crystal
Thats only viable with a shieldgryn
twilit veldt
yea then thats easy enough to do, especially since DH does not switch out target no matter the damage it takes
btw by bonbon you mean slug?
safe crystal
Yes
twilit veldt
yea
strong gulch
Imagine slug costume for a Dachshund.
strong gulch
or horror beyond human comprehension
What's your gender?
Horror beyond human comprehension.
Love it.
meager plinth
twilit veldt
i love that lorewise the sluggo is pretty much just nurgles doggo
it just wants to hug and play with everyone
but it ends up poorly for everyone involved apart the sluggo
strong gulch
adorable
spice veldt
What's the combo to spam with Illisi
- The light combo has better single-target DPS than the heavy and isn't that much worse for hordeclear, but it suffers against Flak (75% dmg), Maniac (50% dmg), and Carapace (1% dmg) enemies.
- The heavy combo has less single-target DPS, but it has 6 cleave and is nice for staggering a group of enemies. It also has better armour modifiers against Flak (100%), Maniac (100%), and Carapace (65%). If you can make use of its cleave, then its hordeclear DPS will be better than the light combo. You can QQ it for more DPS.
- But if you can afford the peril and space, then special-spam is the best for virtually every situation. If there is a sufficient density of enemies around you, then special-heavies are ideal damage- and peril-wise. If there are Ragers, then special-lights are ideal for repeatedly staggering them to prevent them from getting a swing off. You can afford to use special-heavies on maulers who seem to have slower attacks and are easier to dodge.
If there are 2 maulers, make sure to bodyshot them because their Carapace head will end your cleave. The Illisi's special has enough base cleave to hit two ragers/maulers so spam that shit.
if you're running a quietitude/warp unleashed/kinetic shield build like I am, then special spam is especially important for peril generation (but you probably don't want to stay at 100% unless your ult is up because you can just get caught by ragers and immediately die because you didn't have any peril to activate your special and stagger them)
hidden crystal
- The light combo has better single-target DPS than the heavy and isn't that muc...
As far as ragers and maulers, it's worth remembering the force sword push attack. I've often dealt with multiple maulers by shoving several of them down to buy more time for me - or the rest of the team - to deal with them.
spice veldt
this is a me-issue, but I have a tendency to completely forget about enemies that are laying on the ground
and I dislike pushing back elites
preferably, they come forward instead (unless there's a crusher around)
though my experience is also very biased in that I run the trauma
yeah if you're running other ranged weapons, the push-attak probably sees a lot more use
rigid sky
It's decent for if you just don't have the space to swing at all for me
I tend to rely on it with Deimos if I get pressured super hard
I run a stamina curio, two block efficiencies and kinetic deflection plus deflector though lol
Psykertank go brrrrr
Idk why I have the block efficiency shit honestly
spice veldt
i got extremely greedy for toughness and am not running +stam or kinetic deflection, so ragers are a sore spot for me
spice veldt
i always liked micro-optimizing my build, so I've dumped a lot of my materials into curios
i've swapped them around a few times now
rigid sky
Deflection is the tits though tbh, with stamina+
spice veldt
at the detriment of my plasteel count
rigid sky
You can block forever and a day
spice veldt
i rely on the power of god and anime that I am not caught out in a bad position and that I can dodge the attack
strong gulch
at the detriment of my plasteel count
Well, plasteel isn't going to burn itself.
rigid sky
I mean nothing gets done but you don't get done either
spice veldt
and that a chaos spawn doesn't spawn
rigid sky
Well, plasteel isn't going to burn itself.
Don't say that, or Fatshark might make our plasteel volatile
hidden crystal
Well, it may not be for everyone, but staggering enemies to buy yourself space is definitely an option with the force sword. Light shoves can (if spammed) stagger a large chunk of a horde, and heavy shoves can stagger anything other than monstrosities and mutants (although it's not great on bulwarks - doesn't work at all through the shield), so you can often make openings that way.
spice veldt
I am very DPS-minded, so I only ever push against a horde with the illisi if I'm surrounded such that I can not reliably sideways-dodge, I need to keep a chokepoint, I need to push ahead, or I need to quell
hidden crystal
I'm trying to get into the habit of spamming light shoves after reviving allies, it gives them more time to get their bearings and perhaps swap weapons.
spice veldt
the trauma/purg staffs which I use have a shorter cooldown before you can quell when swapping to them (unlike surge/void), so I don't need as much time and space to get a quick quell off when a horde is nearby
rigid sky
Illisi is a horde killer though, it should be difficult to get too pressed with that
Deimos suffers from horde pressure way more
You can't always fight out with one
tender osprey
just two big guys!
cyan moth
Gotta say, we had full faith in our slab shield boys
spice veldt
though I suppose I need to push anyways since my dodges are probably 0 after using the force sword
rigid sky
But I only use Illisi when I take Surge which is my least favourite staff
safe crystal
i rely on the power of god and anime that I am not caught out in a bad position ...
Are you sure you should be doing that, with your old man reflexes?
harsh urchin
deimos suffers from horde pressure? wot
spice veldt
Are you sure you should be doing that, with your old man reflexes?
your name is literally ice slow
don't talk to me stranger
strong gulch
I definitely like to use the shove when I'm playing a melee heavy session.
Also to give my brain time to catch up.
You don't choose dial-up brain; it chooses you.
safe crystal
your name is literally ice slow
At least i dont get domed by a sniper while im not pressured
harsh urchin
the horde clear isnt illisi level but it doesnt at all
strong gulch
just two big guys!
big frens
spice veldt
At least i dont get domed by a sniper while im not pressured
i was pressured by the expectations of being at the front of the group
checkmate
harsh urchin
might be a player skill issue
rigid sky
It's not the worst but I tend to always take hordekilling weapons on every class, the Deimos is probably the most horde vulnerable I'm used to
safe crystal
Do you still have your POV of the incident?
rigid sky
I use Bull Butcher, heavy swords, bromentum axes and power swords
spice veldt
Do you still have your POV of the incident?
i think so
rigid sky
Which are all autoclear
harsh urchin
yeah so you only know how to lmb spam
rigid sky
For horde, yeah
harsh urchin
with other weapons you need to dodge and chain heavy/lights and use pushes
rigid sky
I mean I still have to push and dodge with those too
spice veldt
well if they've used the obscurus they should know that
rigid sky
But it's to save chips rather than to not die instantly
harsh urchin
and the horde dies even if you miss the timing
hidden crystal
just two big guys!
The time I got stuck in a Valkyrie with three of them. You can't even see the third behind the brick house in the front: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1103444412547215380/20230201185906_1920.jpg
rigid sky
I wanna get a good eviscerator to learn more technical melee with
rigid sky
The time I got stuck in a Valkyrie with three of them. You can't even see the th...
That can't smell good
hidden crystal
It's always a fun game when you get three RPing ogryns.
strong gulch
The most fun melee for me is the knife, but that thing is so mean to my hands.
hidden crystal
That can't smell good
I don't imagine it did.
hidden crystal
The time I got stuck in a Valkyrie with three of them. You can't even see the th...
Actually, looking again, you can just see the toes of #3:
But yes, that was quite a fun match that one.
strong gulch
The lunchbox rag-dolling everything always sends me into a laughing fit.
MORE BOX MORE BETTER
dull haven
Worth a pickup?
grizzled iris
Worth a pickup?
No
hidden crystal
While the raw stats are okay (at least if you prefer to run at high peril), that's not a good combination of perks or blessings.
old oyster
perfect
whole hornet
The top and pants combo is so good
plucky flax
Tru I run that also. Wish psyker also have some gucci goggles like zealot or ogryn.
Currently running the penance black face mask.
steel flame
this is a me-issue, but I have a tendency to completely forget about enemies tha...
well clearly im totally not going to make use of this information in any malicious manner whatsoever
strong gulch
When you confuse your special button for your quell button and explode.
spice veldt
plasma vet playing psyker moment
fluid knot
Or try to swap to quell and pop yerself, that one is also annoyingly common
fluid knot
For whatever reason weapon swaps can be super fuckin jank if the server is playing up
spice veldt
yeah it was so fucking annoying early on
i like to swap to my staff a lot for quelling
oh well i think it was the other way around
from my staff to my force sword
strong gulch
For whatever reason weapon swaps can be super fuckin jank if the server is playi...
My brain cannot cope.
fluid knot
Yup.. Makes sense to do, but sometimes game is like "nope, eat shit"
spice veldt
so I would press LMB thinking I would swing my sword but no a staff bolt comes out and suddenly my death approaches
fluid knot
Also that
spice veldt
mostly skill issue nowadays though
steel flame
oh god i fuckin hate when that happens
i mean to swap to stave, do so, accidently hit my special button but OOPS the sword was still out and POP
spice veldt
and then our teammates have to pick us up
steel flame
yup
fluid knot
Also the one where you hit Q to swap from BB back to another option an it doesnt register because you pressed LMB too fast an end up trying to pop an enemy infront of you whilst he beats the shit out of you
Game is polished. No issues
steel flame
stop stop the ptsd is flairing up again
i dont even understand why they allowed two low intensity missions to spawn at the same time
this is pain
white sky
I believe they rotate through certain modifiers which is honestly a really shitty system but so is the whole ass mission board
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steel flame
guess ill play a high intensity heresy then so im not compleletly bored to death
hidden crystal
When you confuse your special button for your quell button and explode.
My usual trick is managing to activate my ult rather than swap to brain burst.
Which is part of the reason I run Kinetic Barrage because at least then I can pretend I was trying to speed up my brain burst.
Rather than "well, there goes all my warp charges..."
hidden crystal
For whatever reason weapon swaps can be super fuckin jank if the server is playi...
That's a hefty proportion of the times things go wrong for me.
"And I'll just swap to my sword and push these guys back... why am I still firing a lasgun into them?"
It's somewhat worse playing with the 3rd person mod, because it's less immediately obvious what weapon you have out.
unreal dust
Should I swap Crit Chance to vs Flak? I'm kind of debating
feral verge
Should I swap Crit Chance to vs Flak? I'm kind of debating
I like crit chance
Because it impacts everything
It's not limited to 1 enemy type
hidden crystal
Crit chance is one of those things that varies a lot depending on what weapon it's on.
It's more viable on a "rapid fire" type weapon that deals loads of low damage hits, because then it's likely to proc and just become part of your overall damage output, but I tend to ignore crits as a mechanic on higher damage weapons. If a crit means you're expecting to down an enemy in one hit rather than two, you'll just get into that rhythm of expecting to attack twice anyway and already be swinging again before you realise they're already dead.
A Purgatus is probably a worthwhile candidate for crits, as it is that kind of loads of rapid small hits - and you have already got Warp Nexus boosting your chances a lot.
steel flame
well that was an odd one
just did a heresy hi intensity and didnt take a single point of damage
i forgot how much the damaged jumped in damnation
young ridge
Should I swap Crit Chance to vs Flak? I'm kind of debating
I would take flak
young ridge
Ok da*dra worshipper
fervent zealot
Hi guys. Which is the dump stat modifier for the Shredder ? Is flak/maniac the optimal perk combination for ranged weapons ? Feats I use are 313 133.
feral verge
Hi guys. Which is the dump stat modifier for the Shredder ? Is flak/maniac the o...
Mobility
fervent zealot
thanks
lunar hollow
mobility is the big dump stat and you can do with a little lower collateral
fervent zealot
Is it better to craft weapons then refine them in order to craft Tier 4 blessings or is there a more cost effective way ?
fervent zealot
mobility is the big dump stat and you can do with a little lower collateral
alright, I'll watch for those modifiers for the next Shredder I find
strong gulch
Which is part of the reason I run Kinetic Barrage because at least then I can pr...
Big brain move
feral verge
Ok da*dra worshipper
Stay mad, nine divines cultist
feral verge
I am a god
strong gulch
Is it better to craft weapons then refine them in order to craft Tier 4 blessing...
For blessing hunting, you can bump up green to blue and purple to orange items. Bumping to blue to purple is the cheapest. Rolling all of the way to orange is very costly. Completing higher difficulties, aka damnation, also can give oranges, and thus a change at T4 blessings.
Idk if there is a higher percent chance of oranges getting T4 blessings, but it feels like it.
edited to make things make sense. "bump blue" made no farking sense.
If there is a specific T4 blessing in the melk shop that your are hunting for, that also might be worthwhile, but since you only get melk coins by doing weeklies and the shop has a lot of fodder, waiting for something good is generally the way to go.
fervent zealot
thanks ! I'm still learning to get accustomed to Heresy then I'll try Damnation levels
spice veldt
material gain in damnation is also quite a step up
unreal dust
For blessing hunting, you can bump up green to blue and purple to orange items. ...
There is a higher chance of T4's on oranges. I spent weeks trying to Gray-> Blue farm them. I didn't start getting the ones I needed until I went all the way
unreal dust
thanks ! I'm still learning to get accustomed to Heresy then I'll try Damnation ...
Even if you die on Damnation, you still get more materials and creds per run if you die on Damnation than win on Heresy
strong gulch
If you can get generally comfy on hershy bar, low intensity damnation is easier in my experience. Like @white sky said, player are usually more compentent.
hidden crystal
I tend to buy decent rated greens, because then it's just green to blue for about 200 plasteel.
white sky
If you can get generally comfy on hershy bar, low intensity damnation is easier ...
I'm ngl Shock Troops Damnation is easier then some Heresy lobbies I've been in
hidden crystal
Chances of T4 is probably lower, but it's way cheaper.
unreal dust
I tend to buy decent rated greens, because then it's just green to blue for abou...
Yup. I did this a lot. And it works great starting out. But if you're thirsting for that T4 Slaughterer blessing, you'll have to push through and dump for Gray->Orange. Preferably with the base item level of 350
Or pray Melk's got what you need :<
spice veldt
if nothing else, you can go for low intensity damnation whenever it pops up
lunar hollow
just get arco to play with you. he's a plasteel roomba
strong gulch
I tend to buy decent rated greens, because then it's just green to blue for abou...
@fervent zealot This ^. I made no sense. Green bumped up to blue is the cheapest.
spice veldt
just get arco to play with you. he's a plasteel roomba
shlerp
fervent zealot
I'll practice getting better at higher difficulty then
strong gulch
There is a higher chance of T4's on oranges. I spent weeks trying to Gray-> Blue...
Oh gotcha. Didn't know if that was the case or if that's just how RNG worked out for me.
unreal dust
Chances of T4 is probably lower, but it's way cheaper.
Your mileage may vary, but like I said. I spent weeks into 1.5 ish months trying to get what I needed for T4s. Warp Flurry and Slaughterer and Warp Nexus. I didn't get them until I started biting the bullet and eating the cost to Orange upgrades.
After that, I got them all inside a couple days
strong gulch
I'll practice getting better at higher difficulty then
BUT you can still get blessing and what not by playing lower difficulties. It just takes longer because you get fewer items and lower tier gear.
Damnation is not required, but it pays way better.
unreal dust
Damnation is where its at anyways. I can't go back to normal life after Hi-Shock Gauntlets.
strong gulch
I am not hi-shock damnation quality, but if you're comfy there, I bet the game feels way easy.
fluid knot
The only way to get comfy with it is to play it in all honesty. It'll take adjustment ofc and you gotta polish them threat priority skills, but its not something that people are ever gated out from learning
ornate hamlet
does anyone use psycher with guns?
I started a vet account and its nice yk but also most of my missions have failed due to not being able to kill tanky monsters which are quite easy with the brain burst ability to kill
fluid knot
Yeah a few do, its not a terrible idea depending on what you pick, but people do get annoyed by it if you become an ammo vacuum when you could have no ammo usage at all
spice veldt
vet has the bolter and plasmagun for killing crushers/bulwarks/everything
ornate hamlet
havent unlocked that as vet yet
spice veldt
though if you don't like their clunkiness, then that's fair
since I never liked the bolter which made me swap to psyker
fluid knot
I think Boltgun will drop off in popularity when PF gets nerfed honestly
ornate hamlet
PF?
spice veldt
the main downside of guns is the lack of peril generation and synergy with our toughness feats
quick python
Pinning fire
ornate hamlet
thanks
spice veldt
though the Autopistol has Inspiring Barrage, which regens toughness based on how long you shoot
ornate hamlet
do you guys like purg or trauma staff more btw?
spice veldt
I like Trauma more because it's a more generalist weapon
fluid knot
Void
ornate hamlet
though the Autopistol has Inspiring Barrage, which regens toughness based on how...
i had that on vet but even then lvl 3 missions just didnt work
fluid knot
But im a weirdo
ornate hamlet
But im a weirdo
i like the aiming with trauma more
spice veldt
prob getting accustomed to the game especially with vet who is a chain smoker
whole oxide
advantage of trauma is regardless of team composition or what situation you're in, you can manage. purgatus is great, but only does one thing
fluid knot
Trauma is just overall the best pick tbh