psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

dick's stats on an excel sheet

[olive ember]

Basically voidstrike quell canceling

tho tbh I don't use the voidstrike enough to fully get it cuz, why would I put in all that work to get worse results than trauma or purge

[strong gulch]

balls

[harsh urchin]

it's so much worse than fireball staff

from vt2 lmao

the fireball staff equivalent if it was directly ported would do like 2x as much damage, no target cap, and also apply like 2 stacks of soulblaze

[steel flame]

well shit. i accidently bought some trauma staffs when i was trying to get a Void staff

and now i have a new blazing spirit trauma staff

its fuckin perfect

one on the right is the new one

only wish that was flack and not unyielding OH WELL

for an accidental buy ill take it

[meager plinth]

niiice

[harsh urchin]

Hey man I'll take unyielding

Better than like crit dmg LOL

[steel flame]

that quell speed boi

i can spam it even faster now

[spice veldt]

quell speed doesn't affect the interval of the ticks but only how much peril is quelled per tick

[steel flame]

huh

i can see it takin 12% per tick

but it also feels like its comin off faster too

probably just my imagination

still better than my old one

[near wyvern]

Welcome to another episode of "Hey Psyker, do all the work!"

[steel flame]

belive it or not

but ive had 5 missions with 3 psykers and 1 vet today

and they were all random pub missions

and they were all a breeze

[gloomy gulch]

Got this on my psyker, seems useless lol 😄

[ornate hamlet]

Unarmored is nice, the rest eh

[meager plinth]

you could make a usable one if you replace infested by maniac and terrifying barrage by one of the crit blessings

[ornate hamlet]

If you want a revolver for a bit, what you can do with that one is replace terrifying barrage with crucian roulette or surgical, and infested with something you might be missing

[meager plinth]

^

[ornate hamlet]

I think the priority with the revolver on a psyker is being able to one-shot dreg and scab gunners

[gloomy gulch]

hmm any recommending feats for this

[ornate hamlet]

Depending on whether you can one-shot them at max charges, the infested can go to maniac or not

Granted also depending on what you're running for feats you might have an easier time with crushers using BB

Revolver kinda steps on BB's toes if you're trying for ogryns, but for non-maniac elites and specialists it's a really solid weapon

[meager plinth]

it lets you deal with stuff like shotgunners, gunners, trappers, flamers, bombers and snipers much faster than BB

[gloomy gulch]

hmm ok Ill make some changes but any feats I should be running for a revolver?

[meager plinth]

not specifically, just make sure you have a toughness intake

[gloomy gulch]

kk

[ornate hamlet]

Warp unleashed is always nice and so is warp battery

I never let go of kinetic barrage either

[meager plinth]

you can also use flayer if you want to maintain the 4 stacks of warp charges easier + benefit from the random bursts of damage

[gloomy gulch]

I like barrage on auto gun builds tbh

[feral verge]

revolver is handy on high peril builds

if you're at 100 peril, and need to bb something/a few things quickly

it's faster to whip out revolver

then it is to take out bb hands, quell some peril, then charge up bb

plus, the synergy with warp unleashed

[olive ember]

revolver 🤢

next you gonna say you should use duelling sword

[mild lotus]

I use the revolver to kill trash mobs

when I want to delete something from existence

[static mango]

revolver with damage buffs can be pretty nutty

But I still rate staffs simply for emergency CC and handling chunky fuckers in a pinch

Also another way to build peril for quietude

[silent vault]

Does the surge blessing for the trauma staff work for the charge attack?

[steel flame]

i wish

alas it does not

[silent vault]

So worthless

[fluid knot]

Eh, the primary has relatively good crit potential, but it wouldnt be all that amazing

[gloomy gulch]

right now Im using the rashad and an auto gun hehe

[fossil lagoon]

best voidstike blessings ?

[gloomy gulch]

not sure but I can tell you that warp nexus and blazing spirit is pretty fun. Probably not the best but fun for sure

[lyric burrow]

I run crucian and surgical with unarmored/flak, ideally flak is replaced with unyielding or maniac but flak is locked, feats are 3/3/1/1/1/3

I run it with illisi

Works very well

Dont have to use illisi ive seen stuff like chainsword work

[gloomy gulch]

Im going to try it with a Rashad I have, the Rashad is just generically medium so 😄

actually its pretty good what am I saying

it just feels really generic because everyone gets it

[lyric burrow]

Its like a top 3 weapon so yeah its everywhere esp on zealot and vet

[feral verge]

Hands down, warp flurry and transfer peril

[lyric burrow]

Also ^

Ive heard that nexus/blazing with crit perk and quell canceling is good too but thats way easier and more consistent

Unless you use a macro or something

[maiden wolf]

Is Maniac damage the right call for a trauma staff?

[spice veldt]

i usually use trauma to enable myself to run up to maniac enemies and whack them; trappers get BBed, flamers get whacked, mutants get whacked; so maniac doesn't seem all too worth it

[silent vault]

Voidstrike staff and surge blessing, the same for trauma staff?

[spice veldt]

if you're not running warp unleashed/warp battery you may want to go for +unarmoured to one-shot dreg bruisers (450 hp) or flak for dreg/scab gunners/shotgunners/ragers and maulers

[spice veldt]

if you're asking if the blessing is transferable between voidstrike and trauma staffs, then no, they don't share blessings

[silent vault]

Thought so but was asking if it worked the same on both. As in it would only work for the primary attack and not to charge attack

[spice veldt]

fortunately it works for voidstrike's secondary

only on the trauma is it borked

[silent vault]

So actively avoid that blessing

[spice veldt]

yup

pretty much on the same level as transfer peril for trauma

[silent vault]

Wait so sure blessing is good for voidstrike?

Surge*

[thick carbon]

how is it on Voidstrike?

[feral verge]

Transfer peril?

Amazing

It lets you just cast it almost infinitely in a horde/group

Combine that with warp flurry, which lowers cast cost as well as cast speed

You have an infinite ammo grenade launcher auto gun

[lyric burrow]

Against hordes

If it hits anything more than a poxwalker itll stop

My main issue with voidstrike really is for as amazing as the horde clear is 3/4 staffs horde clear better or just as well

And handle elites better while also having good stagger

Range is always nice for shooter groups tho

[ornate hamlet]

Though a few perks are:

• it's a single shot instead of a stream of fire that blinds people to everything it touches
• its knockdown isn't as wild as trauma's
• it can make actual use of the surge blessing
• it's chonky as fuck

[lyric burrow]

I miss the old head shot sound on flak

That shit popped

It does sound more like force magic now but there was a charm about having my ears blown out

[fluid knot]

Surge/Blazing + Nexus, or Peril Transfer + Warp Flurry

[lyric burrow]

Do you guys think trauma needs some tweaking? The more i play it the more it feels a little op

But i might be too loose with what i think is too good

[spice veldt]

i personally think it's pretty strong

i think they should nerf the damage it outputs in some way

like putting a damage cap on the net damage it can deal to all targets hit by the epicentre

it already has good stagger and is pretty nice at enabling your melee

and allows you to abandon kinetic deflection to get revives off

[lyric burrow]

The absurd horde clear on top of juggling ogryns and disabling everything just feels like its only weakness is peril generation

[lunar hollow]

monkey's paw curls. the moment you have one too many enemies in a blast not a single one of them dies and they get blasted around like a vet nade

[lyric burrow]

Which can be dealt with

[spice veldt]

true, it would also be a trap for new players who don't know that the explosion has a damage cap

and it would be insanely annoying in pubs

even moreso

[lunar hollow]

presumably, to make that kind of idea work you'd have to start fucking with who gets the damage

and that sounds like a can of worms you don't want a fatshark employee opening

[lyric burrow]

Honestly i could do without the outer ring explosion altogether

But a smaller circle/less damage

[lethal folio]

Reaper stagger recovery to explosives is stronger when the explosion is from behind or their left.

[lyric burrow]

Or w/e

[spice veldt]

yeah i brought that idea from WWZ since explosions in that game have a target cap, but it probably wouldn't work as well with the more mixed variety

[spice veldt]

interesting nuance to that

[fluid knot]

Just tone the damage down by 10/15%

[lyric burrow]

Really think it just needs to do single target or horde clear

[fluid knot]

Simplest way of going about it

[lyric burrow]

Not both

Not as well as it does at least

[spice veldt]

i don't like infinite cleave weapons and would like them to get nerfed to hell if they want the weapons to retain infinite cleave

[lyric burrow]

Yeah infinite cleave is an absurd concept

[fluid knot]

Be nerfing a lot of shit then Though not actually unlimited cleave, there are a lot of weapons that have far too much

[lyric burrow]

But they like to throw it on all kinds of shit

[fluid knot]

But yes i agree, too much cleave trivialises a lot of the game an its stupid

[lyric burrow]

Pword/illisi/bm anything but shovel

[spice veldt]

yeah at least with melee you can throw in the plausible explanation that a weapon si going to get stuck, but it's a bit harder to make a finite cleave property intuitive for explosions

at least some games restrict explosive weapons or reserve them as special weapons

[lyric burrow]

Im ok with cleave on melee if i just hit the enemy but dont do damage, getting stuck feels like ass ie chain weapons

[fluid knot]

Well not really, shrapnel will get stuck in flesh pretty easy, it generally would have less mass than a bullet would, and thusly its more likely to get slowed down when impacting something

[lyric burrow]

Unless they could do it in a way that felt less jank

[fluid knot]

Target cap or small radius, thems about the only way they could do it

[spice veldt]

or bump up the peril generation again

since quelling is much better nowadays

[fluid knot]

Thats also an option yeah

[lyric burrow]

Like i love vet shovel and feels more like how weapons should be balanced

It does its job but i need to use the defensive mechanics to make it work

[fluid knot]

Honestly at this point i view a lot of the high cleave weapons as extensions of the games accessibility options aha

Make it easier for new players kinda thing, but sadly its to the extent where they end up outperforming anything that requires nuance, which is not how it should be

[lyric burrow]

Yeah accessibility is good

Its just its better than everything else and mind numbingly easy

Making it good in malice or even heresy but fall off past that so you need to try something else or learn melee properly would be nice

Which is is for some weapons

Just not the ones you hear about

Although i still think most weapons are made by there blessing pool

I still want blessings reworked before we go messing with weapon stats atm

[twilit finch]

I think blessings shouldn't even have levels. It's stupid

A weapon's modifiers already determine it's power I don't need to juggle blessings too

[lyric burrow]

I dont even mind blessing levels outside of it being an extra layer of rng

If we worked towards blessings in a way where we just unlocked them i thinking earning up to level 4 would be fine

[fluid knot]

Thats kinda the problem, they take already good weapons and shunt them into the stratosphere, and given a lot of the best blessings only roll on the best weapons well.. that only compounds the issue

How you end up with stuff like the Illisi, Bullbutcher and Rashad/Antax C'axes

[lyric burrow]

On top of that the same blessings are different for each weapon

[fluid knot]

Stuff that quite frankly doesnt need the best blessings in the game on them to perform well, but have them anyway whereas the weapons you have to actually try to make work, have a bunch of shitty/non-functional blessings

[lyric burrow]

Normally headtaker is good but not crazy but hsword gets a fucking absurd variant

Same with rampage

Then theres 4 other blessings on it that are essentially headtaker but worse

[twilit finch]

A lot of blessings don't need to be stronger than level II to be effective

[lyric burrow]

Oh ill agree that some need to be tuned down

[twilit finch]

IV is just ridiculous for some

Retune em and remove levels, I feel

[lyric burrow]

I dont mind levels its just not balanced i feel

Id wanna see how retuning goes first

But i wouldn't be upset if they didnt have levels

Esp if they eventually rework crafting like was hinted at in a comms link but were gonna have to wait and see on that

This game is pretty all over the place

[twilit finch]

It's a good game being held back from being a great game

[lyric burrow]

Oh i love jt

Its just hard to reccomend to people when they hear about crafting/95% player base drop/slow devs that dont understand balance/new bugs each patch/phatom shots each game because server side

[twilit finch]

Wait why harm talking in spark'ead channel

Harm got lost comin back from tha latrine again

[lyric burrow]

Apologies brute should have redirected you

[silent vault]

The game game is good, outside of that not so good

[near wyvern]

Had a full sibling run, damnation hunting grounds and lights out

2 purge, 1 surge, 1 trauma

hordes were a joke

[lyric burrow]

Yeah that makes sense

If you all ran aura youd never have to stop ulting

[near wyvern]

That would be funny

[brazen warren]

ilisi counters hordes pretty easily, great option if you want to experiment with other ranged options

[steel flame]

you know what i really love

is where there is a purgatus psyker and im running Fire trauma

free warp charges for days baby

[steel flame]

everyone runs AB, a fire build (trauma purgatus or void), elite kills cooldown reduction,

unlimted fire ults

all the things die

i would love to have a party like that at some point just to test that

[maiden wolf]

What would you reccomend for my second perk?

[spice veldt]

my preferences are either +unarmoured to one-shot dreg bruisers (450 hp) or +flak for dreg/scab gunners/shotgunners/ragers and maulers; for dreg gunners, +flak allows you two-shot them with full charges. I don't know about any specific breakpoints with regards to the others, but my rationale is that every little bit helps and they are enemies that tend to get trauma'd by me

[old oyster]

idk why but on this mask i have a flashback on dark vader and starkiller

[static mango]

Where is the Psykana collar?

[analog solstice]

is there a way to show an entire set on an operative? can only preview one piece at a time it seems

[south canopy]

It used to show the entire set on your character by default

But they changed it for some reason

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/ude2ag

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/47cqgt

THAT'S THE GAME

WHERE THE OTHER ZEALOT KILLED ME

god that one was so painful

[spice veldt]

owned

what's the story behind that

[lunar hollow]

i had holy rev activate on a single gunner

zealot shot the fucking thing after i got 1 swing on it

2 more gunners show up when he leaves

[spice veldt]

OH you're referring to my vid

[lunar hollow]

yes

[spice veldt]

get owned

[lunar hollow]

i hid under the ledge but the gunners found me

[spice veldt]

i saw you get downed and just went away to loot plasteel

[lunar hollow]

and then nobody came to revive me

and i perished

[spice veldt]

i assumed that they both would be able to handle the enemies

[lunar hollow]

neither of them even tried

reaffirming my trust issues

[wind storm]

Noob here, I'm not sure why everyone is taking hp% curios over toughness curios when all the sources of sustain or resistance are only toughness-related.
Like, isn't it better to have a bigger toughness pool if you regen 15% of its total per kill? and get resistances on it from zealot coherency/kinetic shield?

[wet belfry]

#psyker-class message

[wind storm]

really just bursters I see x) fair enough

[spice veldt]

a bunch of stuff will destroy toughness regardless of its flat amount

fire (bombers, flamers) and snipers (if your toughness is broken by the sniper shot, then your toughness is ignored)

[wet belfry]

Pretty sure i actually consistently get my face blown up by poxbursters in shock troop.

2 or 3 arrive at the same time and it becomes impossible to stop from them all from detonating in my face.

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/t61t3i

[wet belfry]

Yes

[lunar hollow]

a small geometry error may have been made

[spice veldt]

nevertheless, I personally do like my toughness, stacking 3 tough with kinetic shield
toughness is especially nice if you take full advantage of the extra flat regen you get (from feats and melee kills)

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/1rnige

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/rhc9zp

[spice veldt]

and your plot armour saving you from the burster to the left

and the crusher to the right

[lunar hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU

[wet belfry]

Veterans are the main character in this game

Everyone else is just a supporting character to the veteran

[lunar hollow]

i know, right?

https://streamable.com/9q4g9l

in no just world do i survive this

but we live in a grim dark reality

[spice veldt]

4 pounces dodged by pure bullshit

[lunar hollow]

pure, unadulterated skill

[wet belfry]

The video reminds of a really dumb video made on reddit for awhile ago

A psyker showed of their mechanical skill through the worst positioning skill possible

[lunar hollow]

i hope one day someone references the post i made where i crouch walked into a room full of gunners/shooters as vet and took no damage

cuz unwavering focus

such a hard class to play dude

[wet belfry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/122yqd7/shock_troop_gauntlet_condition_puts_the_fear_of/

This one

[lunar hollow]

illisi lights on corruptor eye

f

[spice veldt]

f

god those thick bracers on that jacket really bother me

[wet belfry]

Very fancy but looking at the actual positioning its so questionable.

[spice veldt]

not using the illisi special and constantly push-attacking against stalkers

AUGH

[upper galleon]

the ogryn 1st penance set

has that issue for me

trying to use the twin stubber and getting my center cut off by the bladed knuckles

[gloomy gulch]

the god emperor protects

[fluid musk]

Is this the best channel to discuss working on Psyker penances?

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on whether you want advice or a group

[golden tartan]

• Shredder
• Power cycler psword

Yea looks like a tuesday :P

Tbh that didnt look that bad

Only hairy moment was when u goy stuck in the corner

[zealous sierra]

Buy?

[strong gulch]

If the sword is a huge upgrade for you, you have a lot of melk coins, and don't mind having unstable power + slaughterer, then the sword would be good.

Otherwise I wouldn't get either.

[zealous sierra]

I've never gotten any of the new swords

[strong gulch]

Then go for it. IDK if you depend on or use deflector.

Typically slaughter + defector blessings are used for a balance of damage and defense on illisi.

A lot of people opt for unstable power + slaughterer to push damage.

[cosmic sigil]

Which is tbh overkill.

[plucky flax]

Deflector best blessing

[strong gulch]

I am heavily biased in favor of crabbing around a level.

https://tenor.com/view/step-back-bitch-crab-knife-gif-5128633

[mossy surge]

Deflect Deez nutz

[plucky flax]

[zealous sierra]

What perks?

[slate sun]

no luck ... none at all ... and -1k plasteel ofc

[zealous sierra]

I got lucky with this

[strong gulch]

Maniac and flak are your general better options.

[strong gulch]

Rest in peas

[zealous sierra]

This sword has Specialist and crit damage

[slate sun]

ell that seems much better

[zealous sierra]

I had no clue it was good till a psyker player started swearing at me

[strong gulch]

Keep specialist and add flak

[zealous sierra]

Okie

[zealous sierra]

How does the sword work with the special power up?

[strong gulch]

Special is cleave and more damage. Great for horde clear.

It also doesn't animation lock you. So you can chain it quickly.

[zealous sierra]

How many swings till it expire?

[strong gulch]

1

[zealous sierra]

O_O

[strong gulch]

It is enough tbh tho.

[slate sun]

I was much more lucky with this ... such a waste on a psyker though 😄

the power swords just don't cut it for me

(literally)

[spice veldt]

illisi's special staggers ragers and maulers similar to the power sword, and you can spam special-lights fast enough that ragers aren't able to get a swing off

and it has enough base cleave to hit two ragers/maulers, though make sure to bodyshot maulers if there are two of them because their carapace head will immediately end your swing regardless of your cleave

[lilac tapir]

lvl 713 Psyker 😮

[meager plinth]

[sterile vale]

what a psykerpath...

[slate sun]

can someone explain what are the levels ? 😄

[twilit veldt]

i just got taken by the charger into the inside of one of the spawn rooms

thank fuck i was psyker so i could atleast suicide via perils of the warp

[safe crystal]

Theres a mod that shows you how many times you've leveled past 30, since you receive XP at the end of round every time.

[slate sun]

thx, wish there was a site for these stats 🙂

[safe crystal]

I know Arco is somewhere above 1000+ levels on psyker

[lilac tapir]

someone who reached 713 probably has like 600-700 hours on 1 character basically, which is a bit crazy when you think about it 😄

[safe crystal]

Im at 320 myself

[slate sun]

well it is a great game 😅

which stick was he using? @twilit veldt

[twilit veldt]

wtf are you talking about?

[cosmic sigil]

Josho's

[rigid sky]

What perks should I have for Trauma?

Mine is flak and maniac with flak locked

but idk, is maniac worth it?

it's warp flurry + rending shockwave, and I run the peril reduction feat instead of the damage from high peril one

[spice veldt]

for me, I don't see maniac as being useful since those enemies usually get whacked (mutant/flamer) or BBed (flamer/trapper)

if I do use the trauma on trappers/flamers, it's to enable my melee and let me whack their asses

depending on your damage stat and if you're running warp battery, you will need +unarmoured to one-shot dreg bruisers (450hp)

[rigid sky]

I'm thinking unarmoured or infested might be better

I run 6 warp charges

damage stat is 72%

maybe +unarmoured then?

I guess infested isn't worth it since it's way above 200 damage anyway

[spice veldt]

with that, you'll need 6 warp charges to one-shot dreg bruisers at a full charge

[rigid sky]

I try to float 6 as much as I can anyway

[spice veldt]

poxwalkers have 300, but yeah with 72% dmg, you only need 2 warp charges to one-shot poxwalkers with a full charge

[rigid sky]

Maybe keep maniac then? idk

or unarmoured just for safety with the bruisers

[spice veldt]

yeah you have a flex option if you can comfortably maintain 6 warp charges

and if you spam the trauma, then the outer area is probably going to finish off the bruisers

the only downside is that the bruisers will get knocked around from not having been one-shot by the epicentre

[static mango]

Yeah with Trauma you want to be paying attention to the dudes you toss around that aren't dead, it's handy to stun/knock down but if they just get back up to embed a chain axe in your teammates skull you haven't helped much in the long run

But that goes for any KD/Stun based weaponry

Amount of people who just leave dudes alive after knocking them over is just silly, finish what you start unless you got a real good reason

[cyan moth]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-darktide-gif-27128217

[meager plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-omori-hop-on-darktide-omori-hop-on-gif-27183451

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-darktide-gamer-girl-gif-27131761

[pine relic]

I thought people hate this design

[crystal jolt]

literally who could hate it

[mild lotus]

it's overall a big 50/50

I like the new design

[crystal jolt]

its the only reason people like the show honestly

it's all i've seen people talk about

[mild lotus]

but then again, never was a big fan of superhero of anykind

[granite knoll]

I ran out of time for the weekly

[meager plinth]

casca downgrade

[mild lotus]

The way I see it they managed to make the show(only seen the first episode) both interesting and accessible to all range of age. The characters are rather endearing or even very endearing(the duo of Lois and Clarke works very well together) and the design of the characters are pleasant to look at.

[pine relic]

I remember when I was cleaning my room, and then my mom came in, and the video was playing that scene.

[white sky]

I mean, capable of speech is an upgrade

[pine relic]

The company really knows how to appeal to the young, hormone-driven audience.

[white sky]

I will say Lois just doesn't look like Lois to me

But I grew up with

JLA

[mild lotus]

Good looking characters and cute romantic moments in a show is something for the hormone-driven now?

what a time we're living

[white sky]

Man we had sexual controversy over a green m&m

[mild lotus]

I don't know, I thought everyone liked to see people(or in that case characters) be happy and able to express romantic feelings.

[white sky]

I'll be honest I wish romance subplots were less relevant in everything I've watched

[pine relic]

You do know good-looking means sexually attractive right?

[mild lotus]

yeah, that's half the point of looking good

[white sky]

I think you can appreciate the aesthetic of something without being sexually attracted to it

Something or someone

[mild lotus]

but if you really want to get into the sexual aspect of it, could tell me in which way Lois is sexualised here? other than not looking like a truck hit her in the face?

characters can look good and have romantic stories without the plot revolving around sexuality

also, even though I'm no expert on superman, in a show about his daily life between office working and saving the city, I'm not surprised to see how he handles romantic feelings for someone else

[pine relic]

I don't really watch anime now, or any superhero-related animations.

But anything is better than MCU.

[feral verge]

I've seen a few level 1000s

[white sky]

The only superhero content I remember really enjoying recent is Invincible

[mild lotus]

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[feral verge]

@spice veldt is over 1000

I'm level 480 or so

[white sky]

How does a mf play DT for that long

[meager plinth]

game good

play much

[feral verge]

It's fun

Addicting game

[spice veldt]

I like the gameplay

[meager plinth]

get to kill stuff with pals

and get killed by pals

[cyan notch]

this is what happens to you at level 1000 choose wisely

[spice veldt]

I came from l4d2 and was itching for something like this

[white sky]

I mean don't get me wrong, I've played DT for probably 600 odd hours yeah?

[twilit veldt]

it is fun to purge

[spice veldt]

you bitch

[white sky]

But I think my highest level is 250 ish

[spice veldt]

slander

[cyan notch]

[mild lotus]

shoo shoo

[feral verge]

I have 875 hours

[mild lotus]

go back to zealot chat

[feral verge]

Psyker is 480, zealot is 300

[meager plinth]

this is zelchat v2

[white sky]

Exactly 587.1

[spice veldt]

I have basically all my hours in Psyker; my 2nd highest is a vet who's lvl 70

[mild lotus]

not if I have something to say about it

blows up mind with mind

[white sky]

I have more levels in vet then anything else but I don't think I could strictly play any 1 class in DT that much

[spice veldt]

before the new force swords, I don't like any other melee except the obscurus

[feral verge]

Psyker is extremely versatile

[spice veldt]

and then they dropped the illisi

[pine relic]

It doesn't matter; that's how animation works. I don't believe any animation today has any sort of deep stories or connotations. You just put some pretty characters, and there you go.

[feral verge]

It has a lot of uhh replay value

[cyan notch]

all my hours are on psyker my 2nd highest is another psyker which i deleted and my 3rd highest is another psyker which i deleted and my 3rd highest is another psyker which i deleted and my 4th highest is another psyker which i deleted and my 5th highest is another psyker which i deleted

[spice veldt]

I swapped my main from vet to Psyker because of brainburst

[white sky]

Psyker is probably my second favorite class to actually play

[spice veldt]

why would you kill them all

[mild lotus]

higly cynical, I don't understand how you come to think that

[stray tusk]

Whats your psyker build ?

[meager plinth]

which personality do yall have on your psykers?

[spice veldt]

also on my phone those messages line up perfectly

[mild lotus]

savant or nothing

[pine relic]

For example, the MCU, despite making mediocre movies for the past four years, has still managed to sell well.

[spice veldt]

I run trauma + illisi with a melee focus

[white sky]

Male Seer

[cyan notch]

so i dont have to look and feel obligated to grind their weeklies (horrible)

[meager plinth]

also I want to see high level psykers driptide

[mild lotus]

the unshared Melk missions are a bane

[pine relic]

The only good superhero movie I have ever watched is the Watchmen

[spice veldt]

I play very aggressively and only use my trauma as a safe option or get-out-of-jail-free card

I like the quips of my male seer

[mild lotus]

Malleus montronum top + any kind of dark pants

[white sky]

The Watchmen movie isn't even that good

[mild lotus]

high tier drip

[white sky]

It's defo not the comics

[mild lotus]

it knows how to appeal to doomers I guess

[white sky]

I mean I like Watchmen

[spice veldt]

I'm running the t3 torso from the new penances (the highest one without the cape) and one of the docket pants that are tan/brown-colored

[white sky]

But the movie has nothing on the comics

[twilit veldt]

the german with foreshortened lifespan

[white sky]

Also good superhero movies

spider verse

Ezpz

[feral verge]

driptide

[mild lotus]

last one is meh

[white sky]

Imo best psyker drip is the OG Penance stuff with the New Penance helmet

I do not have a screenshot right now and I'm not booting DT just for this

[mild lotus]

btw, how does one come to the conclusion that having anything else than the glowing eyes for psyker is okay?

[pine relic]

I stopped watching Spider-Man after Tobey Maguire; the character just regressed back to being a teenager.

[meager plinth]

this is mine

[mild lotus]

driptide

[meager plinth]

solid look

[strong gulch]

moth

[stray tusk]

Hes immune to medi packs

[white sky]

You look like the early stage of a superhero movie where they've worked out the mask but the rest of everything is coming together and in about in hour peak drip is achieved

[strong gulch]

Business on top

I love the peg leg pants.

BUTT

The disservice they do to the cake is a travesty.

[white sky]

Ass like a schoolbus driver

[fluid knot]

Lets be honest here, none of the clothing options even elude to a female figure if you have a chick for one of your characters

Maybe the old penance set for Psyker, but nothin else

[strong gulch]

I like that tho.

But

If someone wanted more femme options for male and female characters, I wish that was available.

[fluid knot]

Am a simple man, give boobs and ass ples FS

[spice veldt]

ult refund bug https://streamable.com/ufblkq

[fluid knot]

Wait what am i looking at here?

[spice veldt]

the blue diamond by my stamina bar represents my ult charge

[fluid knot]

Is that not the server dropping a packet as you Ult initially?

[spice veldt]

you see me ult, getting the peril quell and kinetic barrage buff from my ult

and then my ult just comes back as if I had never used it

and I keep the peril quell and barrage buff

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. pretty sure thats server dropping a packet, i've had similar things occur before

On multiple classes infact

[spice veldt]

interesting

wish it was something i could willfully exploit

[fluid knot]

Aye its a bit of a weird one, on Zealot it'll give you the toughness back, but you wont charge

Lmao, ye that would be cool

Tbh, more CDR reductions all round would be good

Shame that the one on curios only gives you like 3-4 seconds if you stack it on all 3

[spice veldt]

yup

and it reduces the flat amount that you get from psykinetic's aura as well

better overall but not as good as it potentially could be if stacking CDR with aura given how it currently works

[fluid knot]

Aye true, CDR stuff in this game is fuckin weird

Though its pretty cool how you can infinitely brainburst between Aura and Quicken, elite volume allowing ofc

[spice veldt]

yeah that's a neat interation

at least psykers get two ult CD feats to pick from

poor zealots having it tied to crits

[fluid knot]

Yeah its not ideal for Zealot, though it would be more meaningful if they gave the class the same base crit chance Vet has

A simple change that wouldnt make the class OP or anything, but would make crit builds a little bit more fun to play outside of currently, very specific scenarios

[steel flame]

dam i wish the game was nice to me like that

oh her you go arco sweetheart, you can have your ult back

[gloomy gulch]

debating rerolling this but feeling lazy

[spice veldt]

i am contractually obligated to say that this is a gr8 game

pretty nice, since illisi is currently bugged such that the first target stat doesn't scale the damage of the special against the first target hit in a cleave, and you've got 80% warp res to spam that shit for days

[gloomy gulch]

yeah in this game frist target is such a weird stat

I also didnt know about the bug

tbh

[spice veldt]

i only noticed it i think because I was messing around with the calculator

[gloomy gulch]

my other illisi is sort of a fun one

[spice veldt]

arson

[gloomy gulch]

lol

I love this sword

[fluid knot]

That is a fun setup

[gloomy gulch]

the illisi in general is a lot of fun

[fluid knot]

Not OP like Slaughterer an Unstable, but much more fun setting everything on fire

[gloomy gulch]

it is pretty good at dealing with single targets, just light them on fire a whole bunch and crit

it is not as good in a horde but still

it is an illisi so its good in a horde lol

I need to reroll the groaners to maniac

keep forgetting

[fluid knot]

Recently started using Wildfire, an whilst not an amazing skill by any means, with Blazing it ends up going a long way over time to soften everything up, much more than i thought for ages, surprisingly enjoyable

[gloomy gulch]

purge counts for soul blaze right>?

[strong gulch]

Same. Since surge staff needs melee to back it up anyways, I've been using Wildfire, AB, and Blazing Spirit Ilisi with surge for something different.

[strong gulch]

yes

[feral verge]

that's the thing, it really doesnt set everything on fire

because mostly everything just dies before you get to enjoy it

[mild lotus]

Who would win:
-an entire horde of sick cultists and heretics
-a 2000°C glowing knife

[twilit veldt]

welp, i got my murderhobo i guess, time to farm 300k for the outfit i want

[near wyvern]

If only it would not kill so many things on crits

Blue fire Illisi is suffering from success

[fluid knot]

You'd think, but so long as it procs, it spreads, an given you're likely always killing something it certainly works, is it the best setup? Not by a long shot, but its more than workable

When it does spread it immediately starts softening up more guys, which makes them die faster, which increases the spread

[strong gulch]

It's silly for sure. When it works it's like Light Bright™️ but you only get one color.

[nimble abyss]

Anyone up for psykers class penance head bursting a boss?

[hidden crystal]

I've mostly settled on some of the less fancy looking original penance stuff, just with a backpack I can pretend I keep my ammo in.

[regal jasper]

Im dumb and forget the key imputs to screenshot

I would love to show my phyker

[white sky]

F12

[hidden crystal]

F12 in Steam (although I personally seem to have broken that), but Print Screen (may be shortened to Prt Scn or the like) will copy it to memory.

[white sky]

^

[hidden crystal]

Windows key and Prt Scn will save it to your Pictures/Screenshots folder.

[regal jasper]

What if im on microsoft

Just use print screen?

[hidden crystal]

Yes, but it might have its own shortcut.

[regal jasper]

I love how dumb i am on pc

Its great

I need a controller real bad

[spice veldt]

winkey + shift + s will save a cropped screenshot to your clipboard

assuming it doesn't alt tab out of the game

[regal jasper]

This is him

I spent all my money on a backpack

[strong gulch]

If windows you can window + shift + s to screenshot and crop in one go.

[regal jasper]

Oh damn

[regal jasper]

Im never unequipting the peg-leg pants

[hidden crystal]

Near-relic sword inlaid with ultra scarce psychically conductive circuitry: That'll be ten thousand please.

Scuffed up old backpack: Two hundred thousand, peasant.

[strong gulch]

Peg leg meta!

[regal jasper]

Its a damn good looking backpack tho

I bought the cheaper one tho

I like green

[hidden crystal]

I ended up with the grey one, it matches the red of the old penance clothes better.

[regal jasper]

Since i technically don’t even own the game cuz i play on gamepass when i have enough ima buy the deluxe edition for that backpack

Solely for the deluxe backpack

[white sky]

The backpack has shitty physics

I would not buy it over that

[hidden crystal]

I do have the Imperial edition backpack, but it's a lot larger and I don't really like how it messes with the character's silhouette.

[regal jasper]

Damn

[white sky]

It jiggles a lot

[regal jasper]

My days been ruined

[hidden crystal]

Or, rather, the bottom of it jiggles a lot.

[regal jasper]

I hate how I finally find a head piece i like and its bugged and makes me bald

[white sky]

Define bugged

[regal jasper]

Im still gonna buy the deluxe edition

[white sky]

If it's clipping, you can change your face

[regal jasper]

It cuts off about like 70% of my hair

[strong gulch]

😂

[regal jasper]

But i like my face

Man this game wants me sad

[strong gulch]

well yeah

[white sky]

You're telling me pal

[regal jasper]

Yesterday i resed a guy and then instantly fell off the edge of the walkway and died

Felt real good

[hidden crystal]

So do I, even if it's one of only three female faces basically anyone ever uses...

[white sky]

I've walked off ledges .5 seconds into a match cause I was texting ngl

[regal jasper]

I sacrificed myself to save a lvl 3 on malice and my squad got whipped out by a chaos spawn in a hallway

I didn’t even get to watch cuz i was just waiting at the alter

Oh i guess i could have spectated

[hidden crystal]

Fatshark leant a bit too hard into trying to stop the female characters looking like beauty models.

Because now 80% of the female faces are almost never used.

[white sky]

Disagree cause everyone uses 1 face that has a dudes jawline imo

And the same God awful haircut

[old oyster]

can someone show me this set with new gas mask ?

[regal jasper]

I get that like “oh this is warhammer no one is attractive” but like cmon we could look a bit better

[hidden crystal]

Eh, strong jawlines are actually pretty common in fashion and film.

[regal jasper]

Ok ngl

[white sky]

I guess. I dislike the face tho.

[regal jasper]

My character looks like a better looking version of me

And idk how to feel about that

[white sky]

All of my characters wear face coverings anyway

Except the Zealot cause I think he looks funny

[regal jasper]

Im not a fan of phyker head gear

[hidden crystal]

Margot Robbie, Daisy Ridley, Olivia Wilde, Keira Knightley, Angelia Jolie, Paris Hilton, etc, etc.

[regal jasper]

They all look so top heavy

[white sky]

Had to go digging for my zealot

Scottish man.jpg

[white sky]

I like the one they released forever ago, reminds me of LP2 Nevec stuff

[regal jasper]

Ok yeah that one looks good

So i changed my face shape to every shape

It keeps doing this

And i hate it

[strong gulch]

I mean plenty of women have "masculine" features. It's nice to not have conventionally pretty and femme characters.

Totally get if something isn't someone's jam.

[regal jasper]

It does look good it just doesn’t fit my character

Its in the shop right now

[white sky]

Nah that's not what bothers me, what bothers me is that it's always that face with the half shaved head as a haircut

Always

[strong gulch]

Oh gotcha

[white sky]

I feel like a firm 80 percent of female characters I see are that set up

[regal jasper]

I finally found a head piece that fits

Yay me

[white sky]

Like that

[hidden crystal]

I'm definitely not advocating for the characters to be beauty queens with luscious lips and long lashes, but a lot of the faces are just never used.

[regal jasper]

I love a game that forces people to try to break beauty standards but leaves in the smallest possible way to add then in and everyone chooses that option

[fluid knot]

I dont see the problem with having options for both

People vary wildly on the attractiveness scale

thats just reality

But yes, if you only have one that is even slightly better looking than the rest, guess what most people are gonna use

[hidden crystal]

I like the idea that the characters aren't getting dolled up to go and smash heretic faces in, but it wouldn't hurt to have more face structures that people actually pick.

[fluid knot]

Ofc, but someone good looking dont need a load of slop to be good looking, i actually really hate that as a whole tbh

[strong gulch]

Big agree on having varied faces that people will actually pic. There is a ton of variation on what is and isn't attractive.

Both can exist together.

Sure more people will likely choose a certain type of face, but everyone to choose more or less the same face and hair, I agree is an issue.

Hair options are 🙃

[white sky]

The hair options make 2077s hair options look good

Which is saying something

There's like, 4 good haircuts

[regal jasper]

I like my hair cut and thats about it

Ugh

I got a new void strike staff

Everything about it is better then my old one

Except its dmg

Its dmg is like 20% worse

[blissful radish]

is psyker a cursed class, since when I try playing him, the veterans either become so new that they're dead weight, or non existent, makes ranged enemies a pain

[regal jasper]

It is the token “weak” class so i guess

[white sky]

I'll be honest Psyker is one of the most versatile classes in the game in my experience

The only time I felt weak was leveling

[regal jasper]

Fuck im out of plasteels

[regal jasper]

Hey im lvling right now

Level 21

[spice veldt]

eh, i don't like the notion of putting all of the responsibility of dealing with ranged enemies onto veterans

[regal jasper]

I usually don’t

[spice veldt]

you can deal with ranged patrols fine by diving them with melee as long as there aren't any gunners/reapers to stunlock you (and depending on the map section)

[regal jasper]

I killed a sniper from like 60 meters

[lunar hollow]

class roles are a scam

[spice veldt]

true

zealot op because they don't get recon lasguns though

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

'role' ends up more determined by loadout

rather than what class you're playing

[white sky]

I feel like "vets deal with shooters" is why you have vets who refuse to melee

[lunar hollow]

unless you're vet in which case you either kill everything that isnt a crusher

or you kill everything

depending on weapon

[chrome arch]

My Beloved has given me both IV slaughterer and IV uncanny strike Meemos force sword, how kind of him!

(it's better than I expected and I love it)

Usually though, I have only one +25 to go because other stat is meh, so I went for carapace, but didn't test if it's needed

Should I go 25 flak or maniac?

[spice veldt]

i vote maniac

[chrome arch]

More often oneshot muties huh?

I will test it tomorrow. Thank you thank you!

[spice veldt]

it depends on your stat roll, but an 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first_target Deimos, Warp Unleashed, 4 warp charges, and +25% maniac lets you one-shot a mutie with an h2 weakspot at 75% peril https://streamable.com/zftlb9

here's a demo at 72% peril

[chrome arch]

Sadly mine is 79dmg 79ft 72fin

But it appears good enough

In some test I couldn't 1shot crusher dealing 3986 dmg so yea but

In battle environment he'd be damaged anyway

[spice veldt]

yeah smack him with a followup or even just shoot him with a staff bolt

i guess it's primarily a knowledge barrier since the game doesn't explain that you get ranged i-frames when dodging, sliding, and perpendicularly sliding https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6U9J8PIyf86R8EuOOcNXoH68g7UKqG3R

or that enemies will swap to their melee at a greater distance if you have your melee out

[chrome arch]

Oh my

🧐

Will watch thank you Sibling

[spice veldt]

that's one of the easier map sections for diving because ranged enemies tend to just go to that chokepoint, but hopefully that demonstrates that you can be completely unaware of a ranged patrol and just absolutely decimate them (with the illisi) as long as they're close enough and you get the jump on them

having good initial engagements help a lot, and melee-locking them prevents them from spreading around

[lunar hollow]

fights in this game become significantly harder if you are in the habit of pulling enemies at a distance and letting them spread out and stuff

https://streamable.com/ct1qrk

this is an example on ogryn

but u can do this on like any class

(i don't slide much here because og slides don't have any melee reduction or immunity, but on the other 3 classes and particularly psyker/zealot sliding would help reduce damage considerably)

[spice veldt]

i like my trauma for fitting that role of staggering enemies at a distance and enabling me to whack their asses

melee-locking is nice for pubs because that means that ranged enemies aren't (probably) shooting your teammates and that also enables them to do stuff

[regal jasper]

I know my staff was really bad

I got a new one

I’ve run out of plasteel so its blue rn

It’s doing way more dmg then my old one

[lunar hollow]

i lock stuff in melee because it makes games go faster and gives me more yellow highlights

sitting back and fighting at a distance just takes way longer unless you're a vet

[chrome arch]

I can agree that

Giving ground often ends to getting overrun and pinned

[lunar hollow]

giving ground in a pub ends up being bad, because your teammates often have weird positioning

theoretically you can use it in almost any engagement where you don't get directly into someone's face in order to significantly decrease the difficulty of a fight, because you can aggro enemies and draw them to a chokepoint or sharp corner and just mash M1 and kill them

but that oftentimes isn't necessary, or isn't feasible (because you're not the last one alive or communicating with your currently living teammates)

[chrome arch]

Ooh dear I wish my teammates were 'communicating' in chat

Often just one weirdo who is dead swears and says slurs on rest

Backseat gamer

[lunar hollow]

my favorite is the currently dead people trying to tell me how to playt

[chrome arch]

I consider turning chat off bc of my luck...

[lunar hollow]

unless i specifically barrel or kill a burster on u or smth

[granite mauve]

because in a pub there's no point communicating with the guy who doesn't know how to use WASD to move around

[lunar hollow]

u have no right to tell the guy who didn't die how to play

[chrome arch]

Can you turn chat off?

[lunar hollow]

yea

[granite mauve]

and everyone assumes they're playing with blockheads

[chrome arch]

I think I would be good with just commands

[granite mauve]

so no one talks

[chrome arch]

Last dude unloaded on me so harshly I lost will to play game next week

I think I will turn chat off for mental sanity. Either ppl use commands or can F off with their weakling and victim attitudes

@lunar hollow thanks for a tip

[fluid knot]

yeah that one is always fun..

Backseat gaming from the deceased

[chrome arch]

Not even that

When they call really bad names you just want to quit on sight

[fluid knot]

Eh, i just teabag them when they go down an leave em for dead

[chrome arch]

When did people become so weak and putrid? Over a game? They will respawn 100m further...

[long summit]

Damn, that sucks. I haven't experienced that at all. 75% of the time no one talks, 15% no one talks until they die and you just hear a "FUCK", the last 9% are goofing or RP'ing. That last 1 percent are ppl that complain how others are playing within the first 5 min of the game. They get insta-muted. I've never ran into anyone that cruel.

[chrome arch]

I am thankful for you having good luck 💙

[fluid knot]

People have always been like that, its just the internet lets people do it anonymously and thusly its often exacerbated because they know they can get away wit it

[chrome arch]

I recently had 2 cases

[hidden crystal]

Alas, the standard pings miss some pretty useful things.

I use the Quickchat mod to allow me various notifications that aren't available on the standard wheel.

[chrome arch]

But in PvE?

[fluid knot]

It also becomes very obvious who is chill and who is not

[chrome arch]

Oh that would be even better

[fluid knot]

Dickheads are dickheads mate, type of game is often meaningless

[chrome arch]

I guess they would find their way to grief even in DRG

[fluid knot]

some of the nicest people i know i met through competative games and some of the biggest w*nkstains ive had the displeasure of meeting are PvE players

[normal matrix]

Sharpshooter spy here, have any of you cool guys™️ ever killed a monstrosity by blowing yourself up?

[regal jasper]

Whats a quick way to get plasteel

[chrome arch]

Low int damnation

Lick the walls

700 plasteel per run

Max is 805 IIRC

[spice veldt]

mat gain on damnation is quite a step up from the other difficulties

[regal jasper]

I have like 10,000 of the cubes and 0 plasteel

[spice veldt]

yeah it's very unbalanced

[chrome arch]

Normal , everyone has

[normal matrix]

I do too man, s'awful

[fluid knot]

Probably, way back at the release of DT we had some idiot sit on the auspex for like ten minutes, we intitally thought he'd been called away for something, but after a bit, we all unanimously give him the vote kick for trolling kek

[chrome arch]

Welcome to the club mate

[chrome arch]

Oh I'd have to learn votekicking, maybe my teammates would comply

[regal jasper]

I put all my plasteel into a voidstrike staff with 20% dmg and i cried afterwards

So i got a new staff and don’t have the plasteel to get it past blue

[chrome arch]

Staves, speaking of

[fluid knot]

If they're shouting profantiy down the line an blaming others most will do

[chrome arch]

I will ask about Trauma in a sec

[hidden crystal]

Right now, I've got F1 mapped to "Daemonhost - watch your fire!", F2 to "Help!" and F3 mapped to "Group up! Keep together!". And I think F5 is "Yes", F6 to "No" and 6 to "Sorry!"

[regal jasper]

At gold it was doing 98 dmg

My blue staff rn does 113

[long summit]

Damnation gives almost twice as much as Heresy?! ...I might have to up my difficulty...

[chrome arch]

Yes

Also reg and lo int damnation is easier than heresy

[regal jasper]

Im not good past malice so i only do malice

It sucks

[chrome arch]

Cos you get high quality players

So please try damnation (:

[fluid knot]

Yeah its easier to learn in Damn than it is in Heresy because Heresy players are just malice players with mouth an ego, Damn players will be much nicer and much more competant

[chrome arch]

So...

I think I saw someone oneshot Bulwark with full Trauma charge
How?

Is there some powerful Trauma build?

[long summit]

Yea but Damnation players will be mad if I play Gun Psyker.

[spice veldt]

probably some kinetic flayer proc or the bulwark was severely weakened

trauma doesn't have good single-target DPS at all

[chrome arch]

I see

I was thinking there is some epic trauma build :(

Not that I deem trauma bad

[chrome arch]

It has Rending Shockwave but IDK if it also helps with the initial cast damage

[regal jasper]

Before i can reroll all the blessings is this worth it?

[spice veldt]

only against Infested, since trauma deals 100% damage to all other armour types (it deals 75% to infested)

[chrome arch]

Sooo

It doesn't need rending at all?

[spice veldt]

rending shockwave is more of a support for your teammates/melee and primarily against crushers since carapace is usually the armor to worry about

[chrome arch]

😅

Ah I see

[spice veldt]

yeah rending shockwave is fairly niche if you don't communicate it to your teammates or not running a premade

I used to run rending shockwave but decided to abandon it for something else

[regal jasper]

Besides the dueling sword what melee is good

I hate the dueling sword

[lunar hollow]

ntr

[chrome arch]

Sooo... Fully charged trauma on floor-treshold WU and 6 stacks doesn't one shot like scab shotgunner, or can it?

[spice veldt]

you'll probably get some better statted weapons once you've levelled up more, but infested and sustained fire aren't great for voidstrike

[chrome arch]

I ditched trauma cos you know heh first psyker staff must be worst

[regal jasper]

Alrighty

[spice veldt]

it is pretty peepee poopoo at lower ratings

[fluid knot]

Only if you're an ammo vacuum and refuse to use your whole toolbox

[regal jasper]

I will hold off on sinking plasteel in it

[spice veldt]

it is probably the weapon with the widest stat scalings

[mild lotus]

you just had to...

[spice veldt]

and worst eases of use for beginners

and they gave it as the first staff to psykers

[lunar hollow]

who am i to deny the intrusive thoughts

[regal jasper]

Rn in the contract guys shop he has a staff that seems really good

Im poor tho so i cant get it

[fluid knot]

Thats Fatshark saying;

https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281

[long summit]

My favorite melee is the Antax Combat Axe. Believe it or not, I'm not a big fan of Force Swords.

[regal jasper]

I have one rn

I think

Yeah

[spice veldt]

you can one-shot dreg/scab shotgunners (750 hp) but only if you are absolutely buffed the fuck up (warp unleashed, warp battery, +flak, and +elite)

[fluid knot]

Heresy

[lunar hollow]

new trauma build just dropped

[spice veldt]

oh wait psyker has +10% elite damage as well

i forget about that

so you don't need to run +elite on your trauma

i love my force swords (deimos and illisi)

[regal jasper]

This is my axe i got as a gift from the emperor

[spice veldt]

kill 40 poxwalkers in 7 seconds go brrr

[lunar hollow]

still outdamaged by bull butcher

ogrynchads stay winning

[spice veldt]

damn BB3 has good armour mods on lights

[normal matrix]

I would play psyker more if i could get a force sword that does a big cleave

[spice veldt]

illisi

[regal jasper]

Is heresy low intensity the same as just malice?

[lunar hollow]

the heavies are useless

[normal matrix]

Ah right

Forgive me i am stupidity

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/p9fglb

[lunar hollow]

and outside of single target damage vs like manic enemies each light is equivalent to a mk 4 cleaver heavy swing

[spice veldt]

low intensity is less spawns, which is nice since specials/hordes can be killers

you only have to contest with pre-spawned patrols for the most part

[chrome arch]

Ilissi is stronk.

But I wonder if Surge staff is balanced

[regal jasper]

Oh thats what it means

[chrome arch]

I like it

But I feel like it isn't much esp vs unarmored targets

[spice veldt]

yeah surge has poopoo damage against unarmoured/infested

[chrome arch]

It stuns them well nice

But you really need to make use of these stuns with your teammates

[spice veldt]

it's a support staff for the most part that has some damage, and it's nice if you can use it to enable your own melee if you want to eek out more damage from yourself

[long summit]

I continuously hear that Surge Staff is a support-ish weapon with low dmg. I'm beginning to think that's propaganda. Every Surge Staff user tops the dmg.

[chrome arch]

My favourite staff, but I wish it was slightly better than just support

Yes you occasionally kill scab elites

[spice veldt]

surge itself is support, but surge psykers can also equip the illisi as their melee

[chrome arch]

And that's when I use it

[spice veldt]

it's just that pub surge psykers are one of the worst types of players to ever encounter

[gloomy gulch]

the last two days I have been rolling some pretty decent staffs 😄

[spice veldt]

i've met a lvl 1000 surge psyker that only has 12k melee damage throughout a match

and this was the same surge psyker who sent a burster into me twice in the same match

[chrome arch]

There is some unspoken psy codex
If they have Deimos they probably run purgatus
If they have Ilissi they may run Surge

(:

[long summit]

How can you differentiate between melee and ranged damage?

[chrome arch]

Scoreboard mod?

[spice veldt]

it's an addon mod on top of scoreboard ye

[chrome arch]

I will never use it but probably that, yea

[spice veldt]

i like having those extra stats to feel good about killing the most ranged enemies

[chrome arch]

Back in a day I did 15,000 damage on Sienna Pyromancer with Mace and I'm done with Scoreboards 😆

(vt2)

[spice veldt]

it's this one if you're interested in grabbing it https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/126

[long summit]

Oh, cause I have scoreboard, and that wasn't an option. But ok, it's am addon.

[gloomy gulch]

I did a lot of grinidng this weekend. Here are my spoils, all low damange but pretty great ngl

[spice veldt]

holy shit that trauma staff

[long summit]

I'll check this out. I was expecting it to show brain burst damage. Would've been interesting as I've had missions where I've brain bursted 80% of the time.

[gloomy gulch]

yeah Im not even going to touch it lol

[regal jasper]

What stats should i look for when rerollibg voidstrike

[spice veldt]

AINBDSIABSFaF

i don't use the voidstrike myself but blast radius and warp resistance are stats you don't particularly have to worry about on it

[regal jasper]

Alrighty

[gloomy gulch]

tbh feel like I got really lucky this weekend of they chained the odds on the tier 4 blessings lol

[spice veldt]

i would murder you for that trauma staff if I could

[gloomy gulch]

👀

[spice veldt]

i am a completely benign person

don't worry about it

[gloomy gulch]

lol

and from using it I can tell you it slaps

they all feel pretty goot tbh

took them all for a spin while grinding the others

I just need warp nexus 4 on my surge

[lunar hollow]

i have done horrible things to this man and suffered no consequences

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[lunar hollow]

not like that

[regal jasper]

Cancled

I’ve done nothing wrong ever

[strong gulch]

For sure.

Journey is a cozy exploration game. Initial testing with chat option immediately went to shit. So the devs got rid of it.

[chrome arch]

Didn't know Journey had chat

Holy Cow

[strong gulch]

Right?

I had know idea until recently. Glad they got rid of the chat option. Because shit talk in that game REALLY makes no sense.

[teal needle]

Replace all chat in all games with the Journey "bing" emote imo

[normal matrix]

which staff is the flamer one again?

[ornate hamlet]

purgatus

[normal matrix]

very good

[compact cargo]

new psyker armor looks great siblings

maybe it is time to spend money for once

[regal jasper]

I almost clicked delete character 💀

[spice veldt]

do that for all your other classes except psyker

[regal jasper]

I might

I tried playing the other classes but i keep trying to do phyker things

[spice veldt]

i know that josho remarks on the infinite dodges of force swords giving him bad habits on other classes

(i don't play other classes so i don't have this problem get owned)

[long summit]

Is the Blazing Spirit blessing even viable without Warp Nexus? From I remember, you only really have base 5% crit...

[fluid knot]

Sadly not really

[regal jasper]

I want to maybe play phenatic cuz they have the pistol salamanders use

But thats it really

[fluid knot]

You can roll crit chance perk an up it slightly, but thats not gonna be enough most of the time

[broken carbon]

it kinda does

i dodge too much with my thammer

[long summit]

Saddening

[spice veldt]

weak-legged zealots

[broken carbon]

no

we're just strong enough to carry a big ass hammer

you and your weak little psychic swords

[spice veldt]

that's a lot of words to say you have weak legs

[broken carbon]

then you carry a hammer

[fluid knot]

To be fair.. not using a force sword really makes you realise how broken that mechanic can be

[spice veldt]

no thanks

[broken carbon]

or a bolter

[spice veldt]

arms weak

[broken carbon]

oh for sure

[spice veldt]

my psyker arms would have their muscles torn from touching them

[broken carbon]

psykers do cardio while zealots do strength training

confirmed

[fluid knot]

Like dont get me wrong, its a good gimmick for a glass cannon, but damn

[lunar hollow]

what happens when u cant lift more than 4 pounds

[regal jasper]

I think im only gonna have phyker and ogryn

But i wanna be lvl 30 first

[plucky flax]

Psyker and ogryn best characters.

[mild lotus]

you have first hand experience of such occurence?

pun not intended

[spice veldt]

josho likes to project himself onto me for whatever reason

[lunar hollow]

i have at least two screenshots where you incriminate yourself

[lunar hollow]

when i meet arco i will

smh

[mild lotus]

that sounds homo when you say that

[lunar hollow]

what else would it sound like

[mild lotus]

gaining "first hand" "experience" when meeting Arco

[surreal imp]

which of these is better to upgrade

is 9% mobility more worth it a duelling sword?

or is that 3dmg and 5% finesse better

[mild lotus]

dmg

[surreal imp]

cheers

[lunar hollow]

hmmm

[mild lotus]

9% mobi is barely a tenth less of bonus to your dodge I believe

worst case scenario, 70% is a good enough number in my eyes

[regal jasper]

Y’all were right

The backpack jiggles alot

[white sky]

Did you think I was lying

[regal jasper]

No

[mild lotus]

what they didn't give to women, they gave to backpacks

[regal jasper]

But I thought it was an exaggeration

[white sky]

Nope

[regal jasper]

I think its really funny to watch tho

[strong gulch]

I've done that. 🙃

Luckily my character was still new. So I didn't lose out on much.

[dry sun]

Best in slot blessings for trauma staff?

[regal jasper]

Idk meta or really what any of the stats really mean tbh

[spice veldt]

you can press [V] when you have an item selected in your inventory to go into its inspect screen

where you can then hover over each stat to see what they scale

e.g., Trauma's Charge Rate stat scales it from 2.5 seconds to 1 second

whereas Voidstrike's Charge Rate stat scales it from 1.9 seconds to 1.6

[ornate hamlet]

what do you guys think is the best staff in the game?

[regal jasper]

Mine

Im so helpful

[ornate hamlet]

very much

[spice veldt]

trauma and purg are my top contenders, with trauma being the best generalist pick

[fluid knot]

Ye i agree with Arco, Purga is most user friendly, Trauma is most powerful overall

[ornate hamlet]

was wondering because i saw some guy say purg is very bad because it has no range

[fluid knot]

Prefer Void to either, but im not under any illusion that its better than either of the others

[spice veldt]

yeah range is an issue and you can't sprint while casting, but range is not as much of an issue once you're more comfortable with the movement system

[ornate hamlet]

are all staffs somewhat equal

[fluid knot]

They all have a niche

[spice veldt]

e.g., ranged i-frames while dodging, sliding, and sprinting perpendicularly

i would put purg and trauma a fair bit above voidstrike/surge because they have infinite cleave, which is really nice for dealing with dense packs of enemies

[ornate hamlet]

do all staffs also stun enemys like surge with the shock?

[plucky flax]

Surge is op especially on horde.

[ornate hamlet]

wdym with infinite cleave?

[spice veldt]

basically, no enemy will stop the fire/explosion

[ornate hamlet]

sorry im quite new

[spice veldt]

it will deal damage to everything that gets touched by the fire/explosion

[fluid knot]

Personally i'd put Surge on the bottom, but everyone has different views an playstyles. At least all the staves are viable, there is no "bad" choice

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

so enemies have Hitmass, and Cleave is your weapon's ability to go through more hitmass

[plucky flax]

If you want to play relax gaming just Surge and let teammates kill stuff.

[spice veldt]

so if you had 6 cleave, and groaners had 0.75 hitmass, you are able to pierce through 6/0.75 = 8 groaners

[ornate hamlet]

oh so basically the fire goes throu as many enemys as it has range?

[spice veldt]

yup

i don't have the numbers on hand, but scab ragers have >6 hitmass

the voidstrike's RMB has 6 cleave, so a single scab rager will stop the voidstrike's projectile

[fluid knot]

Honestly i find it loses value in higher skill teams due to it breaking rythum really easily. Also i despise people zapping bursters that have just been pushed which can cause them not to detonate

[ornate hamlet]

i think surge also doesnt use cleave it just chains 5 or 6 targets right?

[fluid knot]

Correct

[spice veldt]

ye target limit instead of a cleave limit

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/4929yi

[spice veldt]

I personally run some combination of Warp Flurry/Rending Shockwave/Focused Channeling, though some people run Blazing Spirit/Warp Nexus

[lunar hollow]

you mean to tell me you don't like random pub teammates griefing?

how dare you

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. that exact kind of scenario

[ornate hamlet]

i dont even know whats wrong with the video lol

[lunar hollow]

the surge pushes the burster into the veteran (and me because for some reason i walk into it and dodge the wrong way)

where if they hadn't surged the vet would have pushed it away

and would not have been exploded

[ornate hamlet]

ohhh

[fluid knot]

Its worse because its unintentional griefing, they dont even mean to do it half the time, its one thing when someone barrels you intentionally, its quite another when the user is just being a total cro-magnon

[lunar hollow]

you can also do it with trauma, but that one is a lot simpler and doesn't really have the benefit of the doubt involved