psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

For example, I could fire at coordinates 1x1 and check if the coordinate.get("ship") value is 1

1 returns a hit and +1 score, 0 returns a miss and no score

I'd also replace the coordinate.get("water") string with a "x" to change it from a wiggle to an X marker

And make the checks for firing on water check if the water is a ~ or a X

If X, loop back to asking the player to fire displaying an error message that this coordinate already got shot at

Boom

[harsh urchin]

Coding is not too bad generally if your fundamentals are good lol

[ornate hamlet]

not gonna do any of it tho cuz lazy

[harsh urchin]

most of the time i see ppl get screwed over is cuz they're missing fundamentals

like basic math fundamentals

or basic physics fundamentals

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, I loved getting into a programming logic class because of that

I slowly got introduced to the basics and started connecting them

You can use a dictionary to store values, sure, but those values are like any other value outside of a dictionary

[old flame]

ok I have made the choice to grind for a new sword this time with unstable power

[ornate hamlet]

An integer in is like an integer out and is eligible for conditionals just as well

[old flame]

should I keep slaughtere though?

[lyric burrow]

Slaughterer/unstable very good

[ornate hamlet]

So suddenly dictionaries go from storing information to being pulled for conditionals

[lyric burrow]

If thats what your asking

[ornate hamlet]

It's not something we actually did in class, I just looked at both of them and went "wait..."

And it works

I love that feeling

[harsh urchin]

unstable power is not that important

[ornate hamlet]

I felt stupid doing "logic" puzzles back in school because they involved convoluted bullshit, but programming is basically teaching someone what is 1, 2 and 3 and asking them the result of 1+2

[harsh urchin]

on your force sword, 80% of your power is slaught, 20% is unstable or bloodthirst or whatever other 2nd blessing you want to use

[ornate hamlet]

It just needs to be approached reasonably, AKA not what I'm doing with AHK

I started from the start of Python and had difficulties with the AHK script because I jumped to the middle of AHK

[harsh urchin]

If you're looking to progress in terms of getting better weapons, I suggest focusing on the base stats

Dmg, pen(?) And finesse

High base stats + slaught is the most important imo

[ornate hamlet]

This is kind of what you want

[mild lotus]

Logic courses aren't just a math or programming thing in my eyes, it's something that is useful to anyone.

[ornate hamlet]

Low warp res if you're wanting to capitalize on unstable power and warp unleashed

[old flame]

thats my current main

[ornate hamlet]

High warp res if bloodthirsty

[harsh urchin]

Ye so that sword is good enough

[ornate hamlet]

That sword is very nice

Slaughterer alone already makes the illisi more than enough

It's why I use deflector

[old flame]

I want to maximize damage though

[ornate hamlet]

Do get unstable power then

[lyric burrow]

Id reroll flak to t4

Since you might as well

[old flame]

I want to get rid of the crit chance tbh

[harsh urchin]

If you wanna really optimize you can try to reroll until this state where the 2nd blessing can be deflector, bloodthirsty or unstable

[old flame]

I want maniac instead and flack

[ornate hamlet]

If you can, your sword should look like this:

• Low warp resistance, high damage/finesse/first target
• Flak and maniac, because infested already just drop in one headshot CONTRARY TO THE DUELING SWORD WITH TWO FUCKING CLEAV- ahem
• Slaughterer and unstable power

[ornate hamlet]

That is also great

The basic perks are flak and maniac anyway, so if you get slaughterer 4 you can just change the other blessing at will

Bored of unstable and want to try bloodthirsty, just pop 90-ish plasteel and done

[old flame]

muties and ragers with armor count as maniac right?

[ornate hamlet]

Maniacs are flamers, trappers, mutants and dreg ragers

Scab ragers are flak, as are bombers

[lyric burrow]

Idk what you mean dueling swords are def on par with illisi 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

haha yeah

[old flame]

I'm thinking with unstable power, slaughterer, warp battery, and warp unleash will be enought extyra damage to destroy muties and ragers with a illisi

[spice veldt]

if you like to use the illisi more, then you could do with 60 warp res

[harsh urchin]

you don't need that much tbh

[lyric burrow]

Arent bombers maniac specifically in the head or am i crazy

[spice veldt]

i value more special uptime over more peril generation since illisi is my main weapon

[harsh urchin]

you just need to headshot 😛

[mild lotus]

@ornate hamlet btw why is your pfp from a slaaneshi video?

[spice veldt]

trappers are maniac but bombers are flak

[harsh urchin]

weapon has a nutty headshot multiplier so you just gotta get used to headshotting mutants

[lyric burrow]

This is what i run and it does in fact murder everything

[spice veldt]

i don't often headshot muties with the illisi tbh

[lyric burrow]

Esp with trauma or something

[spice veldt]

i just hope that i'm not capped on peril and i just spam the special on them

[ornate hamlet]

It is a piece of audiovisual media containing debauchery, yes

[old flame]

normally i just bait and dodge them and then hit them n the back, or stun them with a surge staff

trying to head shot a mutie is to risky i think

[ornate hamlet]

The woman in it presents a biological dilemma of what actually constitutes a woman

Me, I don't care that hers is bigger than mine

[lunar hollow]

strange fella this guy

[mild lotus]

[lyric burrow]

Josho do you just spawn to give sterling shit sometimes lol

[mild lotus]

Thought this chat was faithful to the emperor

[lunar hollow]

im like an angry ghost. i show up, throw around some pans (and insults), and disappear

[ornate hamlet]

He's mean to me

[lunar hollow]

sure bud

[harsh urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-baby-egg-shell-sneak-out-gif-16328361

[mild lotus]

He relates to the situation

[ornate hamlet]

I won't farm plasteel with him so he gets rid of that yee-yee ass 6d

[lunar hollow]

im keeping the 6d

highest dps

[spice veldt]

psyker chat #2 goers come here often

[lunar hollow]

i have over 100 levels in my psyker im allowed to be here

[spice veldt]

not higher than the combined levels of your other classes

REJECTED

[harsh urchin]

playing with level mod smh

how toxic

[lunar hollow]

i know ur joking because u would NEVER say this to me...

[harsh urchin]

TOXIC MASCULINITY

[spice veldt]

rejected as a psyker but not as a love interest

[mild lotus]

New found self confidence ?

[lunar hollow]

how many scoreboards where i top damage as psyker do i have to post to change ur mind

i have the Receipts.

[spice veldt]

whenever i play with you, you are almost always a zealot/vet/ogryn

you god damn binch

that's what i thought

[lunar hollow]

uhhhhh

[old flame]

hey guys look Hadron loves me

[spice veldt]

not a REAL psyker

[lunar hollow]

i still have over 100 levels

[spice veldt]

nice

[lunar hollow]

can top damage consistently

cmon

u always play psyker so im bringing diversity to the team

[spice veldt]

true

your reason for not playing psyker is accepted

still not a real psyker

[lyric burrow]

Damn

[lunar hollow]

😦

be nice

please

[spice veldt]

n o
o

[old flame]

How important is first target as a stat?

[lyric burrow]

Fairly

Id say

Nice for single target

[spice veldt]

it's not as important on the illisi since it currently doesn't scale the damage of the special at all, but it's nice for the normals

[lyric burrow]

Dont need 80

[harsh urchin]

dmg finesse first target are not optional lol

those 3 i would say need to be high

[old flame]

this sword is perfect but it has like 46% first target

[lyric burrow]

Id want 70+

[spice veldt]

not optional, but not as important as on the other force swords

but it's probably a bug

i like the normals of force swords so i do like my first target

[harsh urchin]

do we know how the special dmg is scaled

[spice veldt]

no

[ornate hamlet]

I didn't know Arco played anything other than his level 3000 psyker

[spice veldt]

our mortal eyes aren't worthy of witnessing the equation

i have a lvl 70 vet cuz that's what i played before swapping to psyker

[ornate hamlet]

I am a... balanced man

[harsh urchin]

we have eyes but cannot see mt tai

[spice veldt]

guess my main

[spice veldt]

hmmm

what's this i see

psyker being the lowest level of all your classes

and you DARE to step into here

[lunar hollow]

if you dont shut up im going to kiss you

its level 145

7 prestiges

fuckin hoe

[spice veldt]

7 < 9 < 10 < 16

[ornate hamlet]

titty the zealous preacher

[spice veldt]

you're weird

[lunar hollow]

ur just in the mood to be a lil shit today huh

[spice veldt]

be quiet psyker chat #2 goer

[ornate hamlet]

Josh on his way to count prestiges like it's fucking Cowadoodee

[lunar hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT6Xz-6qaNE

19:48

observe.

[ornate hamlet]

Put the timestamp in the link you mental troglodyte

[lunar hollow]

nope

[ornate hamlet]

I don't know how to click

[lunar hollow]

cry about it

[ornate hamlet]

I am

[lunar hollow]

this was mostly intended for arco anyways i dont really care about ur complaints

[lunar hollow]

same to u psyker chat #2 goer

[ornate hamlet]

You do

[spice veldt]

bitch detected

[ornate hamlet]

Because you're a genuinely kind and heartwarming person and deep doing you feel bad about mistreating your only friends

Twat

[lunar hollow]

'only'

'friends'

[spice veldt]

0 friends and 100 love interests

also stealing the shotgunner kill during the finale

you bastard

oh nvm

attempt to steal

[mild lotus]

I truly struggle to get if this is all fun and games or if some real bullying is happening right before my eyes.

[spice veldt]

I STILL GOT IT BABY

[lunar hollow]

...you took MY kills

little whorre

[spice veldt]

it's all consensual don't worry

[lunar hollow]

i get my revenge

[mild lotus]

not my point

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/rhc9zp

he takes my kills i take his v- life

[spice veldt]

"gets himself killed"

[lunar hollow]

GLASS

HOUSE

[spice veldt]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

THIS IS A SPECIFIC INSTANCE WHERE YOU MURDER ME

[lunar hollow]

YOU'RE NOT ONE TO TALK ABOUT FUCKING CLIP TITLES

YOU LITTLE SHIT

[spice veldt]

WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY CLIP TITLES HUH

they're perfectly descriptive of the situation at hand

[lunar hollow]

K N O C K E D

[spice veldt]

you were KNOCKED UP into the air

[lunar hollow]

the problem i have with that one is who is doing the u know what

smh

[spice veldt]

i omitted some words for the sake of brevity

[lunar hollow]

don't do that

or

if ur gonna

u cant bitch about my ACCURATE titles

[spice veldt]

your title is a literal lie

[lunar hollow]

u walked towards the burster

[spice veldt]

my title is just the consequence of my writing style

[lunar hollow]

bad writing style

get a better one

[spice veldt]

good writing style

[lunar hollow]

ur being a little shit

[spice veldt]

whatever mr responsible for a quarter of the damage i take in a game

[lunar hollow]

i know u wouldnt have it any other way ❤️

[harsh urchin]

I saw joshos clip where u slowly get gunnered down

Over 15 seconds

[spice veldt]

your crosshair is magnetized to the barrels and bursters near me

we don't talk about that

[lunar hollow]

cuz i like lookin at u

can u really blame me???

[spice veldt]

my faith in god and anime failed me

ok point your crosshair at me and not the bursters/barrels near me

[lunar hollow]

the poses u do are the best part

i only get those by blowin u up

cmon

[spice veldt]

sadist

[lunar hollow]

not like that

look a lot of these situations have like

believable alibis

only a couple of them are 100% provable shitheadedness

[spice veldt]

so you're just an idiot in the other cases

[lunar hollow]

as ive said before its not my fault u got me acting strange 🥴

[spice veldt]

victim blaming moment
but i shall let this slide for now

[lunar hollow]

its victim blaming in like an affectionate way

y'know

[spice veldt]

psycho

[hidden crystal]

Annoyingly, I've managed to come up with something that works except for the fact it breaks chat.

The problem seems to be that AHK seems to act differently when the key it's emulating is the same key as the one that's being pressed.

If I set the dodge key to Y, I can make it work so that AHK will press Y when the spacebar is pressed, and if held for more than 250 milliseconds, AHK will then also press Ctrl, releasing them both when the space bar is released.

However, if I want to keep it so that the AHK trigger key is space, and the dodge key is space, the dodge slides won't work for some reason.

[olive ember]

I come in and the two specials josho and arcotash are arguing with each other

The sanctity of psyker chat has been polluted smh

[hidden crystal]

If that worked, it shouldn't really break anything, because a) dodging would still work if the script crashed, and b) you wouldn't hold the spacebar long enough when typing in chat for it to trigger the script.

(And, indeed, when you pressed Space during chat, AHK would, indeed, press Space for you, rather than putting Y in every time you pressed Space).

[old flame]

this si what im setteling with now

[mild lotus]

if they're just specials, a single BB should get rid of them

[lunar hollow]

arco is far better than i am

shut up u dumbass

[old flame]

I'd prefer flak instead of carapce but that'll do

[olive ember]

After watching him die to shooters like that

Eh

Debatable

[hidden crystal]

Ah ha! I need to set the hotkey as $Space:: not Space::, and that avoids the recursion.

[kind jay]

can you bb that which has no brain?

[spice veldt]

you smell

[mild lotus]

I can TT then

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803941895134380062/1007704029150847116/581B1C5C-E1B9-4C47-9CAE-4446923A514F.gif

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message

[lunar hollow]

as a psyker i agree

no ball twisting

[spice veldt]

as a psyker i agree

[lunar hollow]

thats the important part yes my psyker status is rather uncontroversial

thank u arco

[spice veldt]

the ramblings of a not-psyker

[olive ember]

When was josho a psyker?

thats a nice joke

[lunar hollow]

140 levels

binch

[mild lotus]

he mispelled psychopath perhaps?

[olive ember]

Unironically more believable ngl

[lunar hollow]

psyker is the only class i've been called a 'clutch god' on

so

u know

[olive ember]

cuz psykers in actually good class unlike you know

zealot

[kind jay]

subscribe to my onlyfans and ill call you a clutch god on every class

[lunar hollow]

sorry random pub players do that for free

you've been OUTPRICED

[kind jay]

but i can also provide feet pics

[lunar hollow]

not into that

[kind jay]

you could be

[lunar hollow]

could not be

rather repulsive

[kind jay]

what if i put a little psyker collar on them

[lyric burrow]

Psyker felt like shit to clutch with till i got to the higher levels

No damage no health ass class till level 25-30

[lunar hollow]

no thanks

[lyric burrow]

Well now that wu is better level 10 is less miserable

[kind jay]

well shit i guess I'll just send them to derpy or something

[lunar hollow]

u do that

[olive ember]

please don't

I already had a friend send me a pick of himself in thighs

[lyric burrow]

Why

[olive ember]

see this is what happens when Josho comes to psyker chat

he brings all the degeneracy with him

[lunar hollow]

those must have been extraordinarily large thighs for him to fit in them

[olive ember]

no hes like a twig

[lunar hollow]

_ _

read again

[ornate hamlet]

Last time I took a picture of my thighs, people went like DAMN and stuff

[lyric burrow]

Whoosh

[olive ember]

his whole thing was how his ex gf thought he could be a rly good cross dresser and made him dress up in thigh highs

and then he went "look see?" and sent me the pic

unsolicited

[lunar hollow]

where do i get these friends

[olive ember]

I blame fucking @lunar hollow for bringing back bad memories

[lunar hollow]

all mine are autists

[lyric burrow]

Through derpy apparently

[lunar hollow]

40k players n shit

[olive ember]

first vet chat, then zealot chat

hes come here to ruin psyker chat now

[lyric burrow]

Checks out

[obtuse moth]

thighs? or tights

[lunar hollow]

the final boss is ogryn chat

[mild lotus]

you are the thigh highs pics sender in your circle lol

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, Josh was a vet chat member?

[lunar hollow]

not to any of them

[obtuse moth]

https://tenor.com/ba0yj.gif

[ornate hamlet]

ewwwwwwwww

[olive ember]

thigh highs

[lunar hollow]

there u go

[olive ember]

as in thigh high tights I guess

idk

[lunar hollow]

derpy finally remembered that phrase has 2 words in it

[olive ember]

@ornate hamlet THE TRUTH AT LAST

[spice veldt]

vet is his second-highest levelled character

[lunar hollow]

by an incredibly thin margin

[mild lotus]

lvl 30 gang

[spice veldt]

still second-highest

[lunar hollow]

hardly

[mild lotus]

no need for fancy numbers

[lunar hollow]

the gap has been close significantly

[spice veldt]

second-highest

i run the true level mod to frustrate myself less when pub teammates do something stupid

[lunar hollow]

dont be talking about high anything bitch ur shorter than me

i run true level mod to further inflate my ego when i carry 3 shitter potato pub players through a match

[olive ember]

aren’t you both midgets

Or was that redverse

[lunar hollow]

NO

[mild lotus]

you're probably less than 1.70m

[lunar hollow]

5'9 is not 'midget'

[lyric burrow]

Id believe that

[lyric burrow]

Sounds like something a midget would say

[spice veldt]

libel

[lunar hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/flexing-flex-arnold-arnold-schwarzenegger-body-builder-gif-18454197

[olive ember]

I know all the Asians I know in darktide discord are midgets

[lunar hollow]

this is how i feel on my level 300 zealot carrying level 40 players through a match

[feral verge]

What's your least played class josho

[lunar hollow]

i graced them with my very presence

[feral verge]

Psyker?

[spice veldt]

yeah it's fucking psyker

[lunar hollow]

thats bait

not answering

[lunar hollow]

RELATIVE. STATEMENT.

[feral verge]

Figured. He's not skilled enough for psyker

[olive ember]

I’m sure you… “graced” them with your “presence” alright

[feral verge]

Psykers be playing chess. Ogryns playing checkers.

[lunar hollow]

145 levels

145 levels

[lyric burrow]

Looks like the lowest to me

[spice veldt]

yeah lowest

[lunar hollow]

i'll fucking scalp you

vet was my main class for 150 hours 😭

i was the shitter bolter vet then...

[olive ember]

^^ vet main spotted

[lyric burrow]

Yeah sounds like a vet main

[mild lotus]

disgustang

[lyric burrow]

This is psyker chat you know

[lunar hollow]

u can clearly see

the 100 level gap between zeal and vet

[feral verge]

Psyker is level 455, zealot is level 255

[lunar hollow]

stupid dumb idiot

[feral verge]

Been playing zealot a lot these days

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt how many scoreboards of me outdamaging u do u want me to post

[lyric burrow]

Zealot is far below my psyker, think there only like level 70

[lunar hollow]

agreeing with that shithead that im not skilled enough

SMH

[spice veldt]

as a psyker?

binch

[lunar hollow]

i did not specify that

[spice veldt]

invalid scoreboards then

REJECTED

[lunar hollow]

bitch

I CARRIED YOU ON SHIELDGRYN

[feral verge]

It's true you do outdamage me most of the time

[lyric burrow]

He wasnt trying

[lunar hollow]

INFINITELY WORSE THAN PSYKER

STILL DID IT

[feral verge]

In pub games I outdamage everyone

[olive ember]

Josho thinks he’s skilled with psyker

[spice veldt]

WHAT CARRY

[olive ember]

That’s cute

[spice veldt]

YOU LITERALLY GOT NETTED

[feral verge]

95% of the time

[lunar hollow]

THE FUCK YOU MEAN WHAT CARRY

YOU LITERALLY DIED

[lyric burrow]

You blew him up with a barrel didnt you

[spice veldt]

YOU WOULD'VE TOO IF I DIDNT GIVE UP MY LIFE (questionable decision) FOR MANKAR

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/msis2p

I HAVE THE EVIDENCE

[lunar hollow]

YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT

[spice veldt]

i maybe should've dealt with the mutant before reviving mankar

BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT

[lunar hollow]

YEAH YOU MADE A DUMB DECISION

AND GOT PUNISHED

[spice veldt]

SHUT UP MR GOT NETTED

[lunar hollow]

SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING SKILL ISSUE TO ME

FUCKING MAKE ME

RIGHT NOW

[spice veldt]

hurr durr why don't my pushes work MAYBE IF YOU HAD BETTER LUNGS AND ARMS

[olive ember]

Shit psykers blaming each other

[lyric burrow]

Ok ill give you that net sometimes trappers just ignore stagger

[lunar hollow]

maybe if u werent off in fucking space cadet land killing a single burster

WHILE IM FIGHTING

FOR MY LIFE

I WOULDN'T'VE HAD TO CARRY YOU

[olive ember]

Looks like I need to remind you guys how a good psyker plays

[lunar hollow]

does 200k damage less than the other players consistently

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-26077231

[spice veldt]

bolter/autopistol vet moment

[lunar hollow]

??????

im talking about when i was on zealot

allegedly the weakest class according to certain vet and ogryn chat members

[spice veldt]

weak legs

(2 dodges with thunderhammer lamayo)

[olive ember]

It is weaker ogryn yes

[lunar hollow]

dont need crutch mechanics

to win

[spice veldt]

alright weak-legged person

[lunar hollow]

my weaks are leg so that my arms may be DIVINE

https://tenor.com/view/bodybuilder-bodybuilding-muscles-gains-swole-gif-4750030

[olive ember]

My weaks are legs

He speaks like a zealot

[lunar hollow]

i noticed i typed that and i started laughing so hard i decided to keep it

[mild lotus]

coping

seething

malding

[lunar hollow]

shut up you gnat

[mild lotus]

you know I'm right

[spice veldt]

preserved for history

[lunar hollow]

dude you can't screenshot that and not include the gif

cmon

it makes it so much funnier

[spice veldt]

how bout no

[lunar hollow]

please

🥺

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[spice veldt]

hmmmmm no pqrstuvwxyz

[lunar hollow]

cmon

it makes it funnier

[olive ember]

^^ cope seethe mald

[lunar hollow]

put the gif in!!!!!

its fucking funny

[olive ember]

He went from coping to seething

[spice veldt]

so is that express permission to screenshot that quote whenever the situation is appropriate

then ok

[lunar hollow]

thank u

[lunar hollow]

do you mean 'post' instead of screenshot

...i don't know why a situation would require you to take additional screenshots of the same quote

[mild lotus]

because you're being a good boy

[spice veldt]

p for pedant

[lunar hollow]

im asking for clarification u jackass

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

????

what do you mean 'no'

[spice veldt]

i maintain my right to silence

[lunar hollow]

can u just answer the initial question

please

[mild lotus]

get a hab block

in zealot chat

[lunar hollow]

im a psyker

i have a right to be here

[mild lotus]

what's your top level class again?

[lunar hollow]

bait question

i do not have to answer

@spice veldt be a man and use ur words dont react to my messages like a pussy

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message #psyker-class message #psyker-class message #psyker-class message #psyker-class message

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[lunar hollow]

145 levels is well enough to be here

[olive ember]

no it isn't

[spice veldt]

what's your lowest level class again

[olive ember]

thats enough to be a pub psyker

[lunar hollow]

bait question

its actually zealot

[mild lotus]

Does FS plan on making the game's framerate stable for AMD users?

[lunar hollow]

at level 7

[olive ember]

You still play the game?

I quit like 3 months ago

its great

[spice veldt]

good riddance

[mild lotus]

I picked it up again this week end

[lunar hollow]

the quality of my matches went up 3 months ago... strange...

[olive ember]

honestly I don't have to watch kinetic shield users die to shooters anymore

[mild lotus]

dropped it shortly after release because psyker was uninteresting at the time

[spice veldt]

you got sniped 3 times in a single match

don't talk to me

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

REAL

I WAS THERE

[olive ember]

sorry where was that clip of you standing there and eating shit to shooters

[lunar hollow]

arco has 1 clip of him eating shit

[spice veldt]

sniped 3 times on a non-vent purge game

[lunar hollow]

derpy has an entire video

[olive ember]

he has multiple

[lunar hollow]

smh

[olive ember]

also that entire game was invisilaser snipers

you literally can play it back and you don't even see the laser yourself lmao

[lunar hollow]

cope cope cope cope cope

seethe

mald

[spice veldt]

28 sniper shots

[lunar hollow]

mr president

a second sniper has downed derpy

[olive ember]

Also you say I got shot 3 times by invisilaser snipers like its somehow more embarassing than getting stagger locked by shooters and then downed, while using toughness curios and kinetic shield

thats like

literally a heresy player moment ngl

[lunar hollow]

dude are u seriously going to shit on him in a clip where im playing like the average shield ogryn

when u just got sniped OUT IN THE OPEN

not to mention

the bruiser incident.

[olive ember]

the bruiser incident?

[lament topaz]

Josho, calm down or I’m gonna get the gag.

[lunar hollow]

the fuck????

[spice veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYy6yYY3Jxo

0:46, 10:52, 10:55, and 22:21

[lament topaz]

Did I stutter?

[lunar hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni13k6HN5HQ

[olive ember]

@spice veldt dude you can't even dodge the snipers when you See the lasers you admitted that your reaction time was dogshit

[lunar hollow]

2:33

[spice veldt]

i don't attract sniper shots like flies though

[olive ember]

ohhh the bruiser incident

[spice veldt]

i also don't get sniped a second time in a row by the same sniper that shot me 3 seconds ago

[lunar hollow]

im arco's pocket vet i protect him from the snipers

[olive ember]

well that was cuz shooter staggered me

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/44pe92

[spice veldt]

(owned)

[lunar hollow]

sometimes with my own body

[lament topaz]

More like arcos biyatch

[olive ember]

could be worse I guess

I could eat shit to normal shooters

¯_(ツ)_/¯

have zero reaction time and Can't dodge snipers even when I see them thats another arco special

[lunar hollow]

derpy plays like someone's fuckin grandma then comes in here and calls us shit

https://streamable.com/a3mv12

[spice veldt]

the tactic of deflection in action

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt dont agree with him

u whorre

[spice veldt]

i'm not agreeing with him you dumdum

[lament topaz]

He’s agreeing because I’m right.

[spice veldt]

oh wait you mean mortarion

then yes

[lunar hollow]

[lament topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-stare-sesame-street-rocco-death-stare-gif-24438342

Almost made a joke but I’m a better man that that

||Totally not because I’m afraid of being smited||

[olive ember]

smh you took fucking years to come over

was literally dying of old age

fucking this is why zealots are trash

[lunar hollow]

literally dying TO THE BULWARK

THAT YOU GOT HIT BY

THE EASIEST ENEMY TO DODGE EVER

[olive ember]

but I'm not dying to a bulwark

did you see me die?

[lunar hollow]

d y i n g

read the full word

you can do it buddy

[olive ember]

nah I could've killed it anytime I wanted

[lunar hollow]

sound it out if u have to

[olive ember]

I was checking to see hwo quickly you would show up

slow as molasses

[lunar hollow]

????

genuine, real, not joking, cope

[lament topaz]

It’s the thicc thighs and fat ass he has, you get used to it. ;)

[olive ember]

fucking honestly I'm literally sitting there dying of old age

[lunar hollow]

chill out mr creepy uncle vibes

[olive ember]

even took a hit just to speed him up and he still took forever

[lament topaz]

But he does not say I’m wrong…

[mild lotus]

I feel like buming down everyone at once right now

[feral verge]

Always free mankar first

Always res mankar first

Mankar always takes priority

[lunar hollow]

yes. always barrel mankar first

[feral verge]

Leave medicae for mankar

[lunar hollow]

thank u

very wise

[spice veldt]

TRUE

he deserves it

[feral verge]

No. NO. Bad josho. VERY BAD

[lunar hollow]

dont call me that

😦

[feral verge]

hits head with news paper

[lunar hollow]

wtf

good way to get me to also det poxbursters on u

[feral verge]

I'm a god. How can you kill a god

[lunar hollow]

im gonna give you the same fastball special i gave arco

https://streamable.com/viydys

[feral verge]

Let's just joint bully arco

It's funnier to bully him with bursters and barrels because he got no HP

[spice veldt]

what

[lunar hollow]

u bully him out of hatred i bully him because it is the only way i feel comfortable showing affection

smh

[spice veldt]

soonderry

[lunar hollow]

be quiet!!!

@feral verge COMING SOON TO JOSHO CLIPS NEAR YOU

[mild lotus]

Josho to Arco behind closed doors

[lunar hollow]

how did u know im a blood angels fan

[mild lotus]

the hair

[lunar hollow]

sfogjh';l

[spice veldt]

top 10 reasons why mankar deserves to be barreled https://streamable.com/so7mm4

[lunar hollow]

yeah!!!! murdering your teammates is bad!!!!

[feral verge]

Awww

You didn't see me go sit in the corner

[lunar hollow]

arco used a super react on me 😳

[feral verge]

In shame

[lunar hollow]

_ _

IM COMING FOR YOU

[spice veldt]

oh i did see you sit in a corner

[lunar hollow]

i will end ur life

[spice veldt]

i turned back to see your disgraceful ass

[lunar hollow]

criminal scum

[feral verge]

Yes

I crouched, then slowly walked into the corner, facing it

Like a kid in timeout

Will y'all be on when I get home

Or will I have to play with pug surge psykers and personality disorder vets

[lunar hollow]

perhaps

[feral verge]

~530pm est

[spice veldt]

i might be too sleepy or not in the mood to play today

we'll see

[lunar hollow]

maybe i will be the personality disorder vets

wait

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/2kos0g

[lunar hollow]

are u referencing what i said about lasgun zealots

is that what u meant

[feral verge]

Lmao I forgot that part

[spice veldt]

FALSE claims

[feral verge]

When you trauma'd me

[spice veldt]

that's the least i could do

[lunar hollow]

OGRYN JUMPSCARE

[feral verge]

Imagine if there was FF in this game

[spice veldt]

dun dun

[spice veldt]

i'd be killing my teammates with the trauma all the time

[lunar hollow]

mankar refused to answer my question

[spice veldt]

imagine if trauma explosions were like barrels

[feral verge]

Maybe

I thought it was vets with personality disorders

When you used the term

[lunar hollow]

#zealot-class message

[feral verge]

I stand corrected

[lunar hollow]

no bitch u sit

[feral verge]

Here I stand

[lunar hollow]

beneath the warm and soothing rain

[feral verge]

I have 2 guns rn and I will shoot you with both

Yes it is raining

[lunar hollow]

arent u the guy who wanted to get robbed

[feral verge]

Yeah

[lunar hollow]

it was a stains of time reference...

CLEARLY you're not an mgrr fan

[feral verge]

I'm in an armored car rn come thru

[spice veldt]

i hope costco makes you sit outside for 4 hours

[feral verge]

I'm not on the route anymore

[lunar hollow]

mankar delivering the monopoly money

[spice veldt]

damn

not worthy of costco i see

[feral verge]

Today is ATM day

We did a bunch of ATMs

[lunar hollow]

do u put the coins in the bitcoin atm???

[lyric burrow]

I leave for 5 minutes and miss an mgrr reference

[feral verge]

No, I only take cash out

[lyric burrow]

Sad

[feral verge]

I've yet to hold a Bitcoin

Someday

[lunar hollow]

damn well when u do send it to me and ill send u mildly lewd pictures in return

[feral verge]

You're not a latina or middle eastern or Asian woman, sorry

[lunar hollow]

u dont like

know that

y'know

[feral verge]

I heard your voice

[lunar hollow]

voice changers exist

maybe i've been deceiving u

[feral verge]

To what end

[lunar hollow]

ruining the reputation of femboys

remove the competition

[feral verge]

That's already been done

One of my coworkers usually wishes that I get robbed

Tells me that everyday, almost

"I hope you get robbed today"

[lunar hollow]

i agree with the coworker

[feral verge]

Thank you

I hope this truck gets wrapped around a tree or telephone pole

That would be cool and awesome

[lunar hollow]

ok now ur getting into the passively suicidal stuff and i cannot support that

[feral verge]

Nah, I don't want to be harmed

Not passive or actively suicidal

[lunar hollow]

hmmm

[ember hornet]

put me in coach

[feral verge]

That's just how we talk in th biz

I called my boss for a safe combo once. When he answered, I told him I flipped the truck

His response?

How many flips? Did you somersault?

[ember hornet]

that's flippin awesome

[lunar hollow]

well

how many was it

[feral verge]

Only 4.5 times

[lunar hollow]

damn

[feral verge]

Too much $, too much weight

Could've hit 6 if we were lighter, alas, alas

[snow coral]

is it asking too much for other players to not shoot things when I BB them?

[lunar hollow]

does it really matter

if ur above 50% progress u get the charge anyways

[snow coral]

i find it annoying, like let me do my thing too

[lunar hollow]

u cant expect any kind of brainpower from a pub player

just gotta go with the flow

[snow coral]

you're not wrong

i just ended up following the group I was with and did nothing, they apparently didn't need me to contribute

[kind jay]

charge bb with right click so you can insta cast it

it's slower but your team can't stop it so there's that

[harsh urchin]

if you're getting annoyed at BB getting interrupted

that means you're using it too much

[patent steeple]

i mean i agree that i myself use BB too much, but that is only because i want to keep up my 6 warp stacks on my AB build and farming them through the method of setting stuff on fire with purge staff is a bit too slow and inconsistent in my opinion because either my teammates kill the burning enemies anyways, or the enemies don't give the warp stacks on death due to the chance being 10%...

[snow coral]

I don't know, I look at BB as a great long range sniping tool

so I might lock on to a gunner across the map, but then another player comes up and shoots them with their pistol and kills them... it's just not necessary? And then the guy is complaining about ammo...

I guess I look at the game as being part of a team. If someone is doing something and they've got it handled, then I'll go do something else to help overall. I guess a lot of players just feel like they have to do everything and kill every enemy

[hidden crystal]

The best one I've had on that front is the person who was emptying a recon lasgun - which does zero base damage against carapace - into a Crusher while my BB aura was around its head.

[harsh urchin]

Honestly I think you're kinda being a baby

If its really a far away target, maybe they cant clearly see the blue highlight showing the BB

[hidden crystal]

It was not.

[harsh urchin]

Not you, him

Shooting a pea shooter into carapace is just stupidity lol

[flat moat]

What perks and blessings shout I try to get on my voidstrike staff?

[lyric burrow]

Blessings would be transfer peril/warp flurry perks flak unarmored

You can go for a soulblaze/nexus build and with crit chance for a perk and quell cancel but it requires good quell cancels/a macro to work well and the first build i mentioned is better/just as good as far as im aware while being much easier to use (assuming no macro)

[meager plinth]

nexus/surge works pretty well too

[white hemlock]

Voidstrike is so fun. I have a hard time using anything else

The carapace makes me sad, but it gets the job done

2-1-1-1-3-1 for feats, though really it's 1/2-1/2-1-1-1-3-1 depending on how I'm feeling

[lyric burrow]

i thought surge wasnt great even on void cause the second projectile deploys weirdly

or was that false

[meager plinth]

It’s not exactly false but it does have quirks

For example if the first projectile moves everything out of the way with the knockback, the second shot will miss

[steel flame]

Id love to do extensive testing with surge void staff but since everything is a damn slot machine I have never found the blessing for void

[ornate hamlet]

people still play this game?

hm... lol

[meager plinth]

nah

nobody ever played this game

[white sky]

I always find "people still play this game?" funny cause there are some games I play where it's me and the same approximately 20 other dudes still playing

Like Aliens vs Predator multi, or Titanfall 2

[cosmic sigil]

They need to release content on a regular basis...

[steel flame]

they need to release content........

period

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't even have to be "content". If they released a real t6 that the average player couldn't beat, you'd bring back a lot of the sweats who quit. Plus we'd have actual metas, which would be interesting.

You can sleep through t5 nowadays, what's the point?

[lyric burrow]

well there is still a "meta" its just nowhere near required for beating T5 anymore

part of the reason t5 is so easy is because some of the stuff we have is so good and it hasnt been adjusted yet or anything, although even without that stuff its still not crazy hard

we could use a new difficulty for sure

esp since id imagine the people still sticking around with the game are easily capable of clearing it, not counting people who are new and playing on steam summer sale or something

but i also wouldnt be opposed new weapons/sub classes and whatnot ofc

[cosmic sigil]

ATM, I admit we're either doing hisg with Onemore try or memeing in other conditions, like "what if we all brought a revolver?"

[kind hare]

I have a hard time with t3 missions whaaaat?? TWT being a noob is hawwwd verrry hawwwd

[cosmic sigil]

Twt?

[proper ember]

OwO TwT

[cosmic sigil]

If you suffer in Malice it's probably because of teammates.

Or you need learn some basics of tide games

[compact cargo]

Need to remove locks first so people actually enjoy the gameplay loop

[cosmic sigil]

https://youtu.be/1IBfWZfShkk

https://youtu.be/tZBDmeMLjfQ

Positioning is key.

[proper ember]

unfortunately most of the players that need to see these are not in the discord

the casual players and new guys wouldnt be here

[cosmic sigil]

Sad

[lyric burrow]

Yeah even just this would bring back so many people that either hit post level 30 grind and didnt wanna deal with it or dealt with it for a long time and got tired of it

[compact cargo]

Too busy been toxic ingame

[proper ember]

the bad players reside between t2 and t3. t1-t2 encourages cod behavior. they get humbled pretty quick in t3 where they're spawning way more specials and trashmobs

by the time theyre ready for t4 they learned the tricks

[compact cargo]

t4 has quite a few too, mostly veterans

they seem to love picking on newer folk

and when confronted about their lack of teamwork go in legendary rants like Queen Racist

[proper ember]

wdym picking on?

[compact cargo]

They usually roll with scoreboard mod on and will tell t4 shieldgryns to go back to Malice with their shit build

poor shieldgryns

[proper ember]

lmao havent excountered a player like that ever

[compact cargo]

anyone trying a new weapon? not on their watch

[proper ember]

thats gross behavior

[compact cargo]

See them when trying to introduce some vt friends over in EU

[cosmic sigil]

Queen Racist? What's the reference?

[compact cargo]

Infamous player that remains unchallenged

[cosmic sigil]

The Queen of vet-chat?

[compact cargo]

Hates gun psykers and ogryns, agravated by em

don't think they are in the server, that's their veterans ingame name

[cosmic sigil]

How can you allow Racist as a name?

[compact cargo]

[cosmic sigil]

FFS

[grizzled iris]

I tell people to go back to malice and heresy when they join and just die over and over again to trash mobs

Scoreboard isn't a good indication of damnation ready players

[cosmic sigil]

Queen in vet chat had a pretty big beef with @lunar hollow

That may not be the same person

[grizzled iris]

Who doesn't Josho just talks and talks like he is the god emperor himself

[compact cargo]

I don't, we all got bad days and they add a bit of challenge when hi int shock is back in the shelf, stealing ammo/dropping medkit for no reason/ inhaling health stations does get me grumpy

[proper ember]

is queen the same person as queenie?

[compact cargo]

no

[proper ember]

cause queenies chill af

[compact cargo]

I hope not*

[hidden crystal]

The last time I screwed up a Malice game was a Hi-int Shock with mid-level players (between about 15 and 22, I think) who got a bit sloppy at the end and got spread apart.

[proper ember]

ok fuck you then queen, making us vet mains look bad

[compact cargo]

doubt it anyway that person can't hold the racism they hold

[hidden crystal]

(Very pleasant players, just a bit inexperienced and not great on their situational awareness).

[cosmic sigil]

That's youth.

[grizzled iris]

Its not that I'm getting annoyed with them, i can finish the mission without him. I'm doing it for him, if you keep going down spending more time on the floor than alive you aren't playing the game and not having fun.

[compact cargo]

That's how fighting games work you die till you improve, fast

and people are better judges of if they had fun or not

I ain't who to tell em

unless that fun is wasting 888 bullets

or taking an entire ammo box because they keep shooting and pressing e

[proper ember]

whats keeping yall in darktide? whats the most fun thing for you about this game

[grizzled iris]

I'm the guy being nice about it, I've seen pugs be assholes and tell people to uninstall over going down once.

[compact cargo]

Mobility barrel

[cosmic sigil]

The gameplay. Trying new stuff

[proper ember]

tf is that

[compact cargo]

will never not be fun

[cosmic sigil]

Trying a new class

And improving

Playing with mates

[compact cargo]

fire barrels barely deal any damage to you at full toughness, so they are a great tool to cover long distances

[grizzled iris]

Trauma Staff superiority!
(Mostly to learn non meta weapons and show people that it ain't the weapon but how you use it)

[proper ember]

tell that to my ex

[hidden crystal]

The main thing that screws up Malice runs, is, indeed, a poor team. Particularly an arrogant poor team.

[compact cargo]

always the big mouth Malice dweller telling the damnation players how to play

[cosmic sigil]

[compact cargo]

the glue enjoyer
Chalk snorter
Team denier
Solo rusher

[hidden crystal]

I always remember the vet who, while downed for the third time, angrily posted something along the lines of "Even I can't rescue this run".

[white sky]

I am held hostage by the 40k setting

[compact cargo]

rq in dt

[manic halo]

game is fun

das bout it

[proper ember]

all legit reasons

[steep bridge]

What perks you consider good on shredder autopistol?

[compact cargo]

Psyker

[cosmic sigil]

That's probably a Joke. And that's funny tbh.

[compact cargo]

that's a good perk

outside of that pinning fire

[cosmic sigil]

Flak

[compact cargo]

right?

[grizzled iris]

I laugh everytime I get one of those "Okay guys listen to me, go here, do that." 2 minutes into the game he dies and rq's

Every time

[cosmic sigil]

Well if we're talking about perks, Flak DMG is kinda the weak point of the shredder.

But with pinning fire it's not really a problem in the end

[hidden crystal]

No, there was enough other abuse along with it that I'm sure it's not.

I will note that, at this point, yes, we were all downed, but it was the first time I'd been downed, I was the last to go down, and I'd already blown my ult trying to deal with several specials.

[proper ember]

i had a vet yell 'check out this shortcut' then threw himself off a ledge

[cosmic sigil]

[hidden crystal]

Shortcut to the Emperor.

[cosmic sigil]

I had someone rq at the end of a run because we didn't go rez him in front of shooters...

Well. He was replaced by a more efficient bot.

[teal needle]

What do folks like for perks on purgatus these days

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/flamethrower-flames-woo-yes-gif-17966059

Purgatus is not a real weapon, it's just a psyker with axe spray and a lighter

[teal needle]

Yeah but what perks do I want on my body spray 🤔

[near wyvern]

Gotta cover that infested stench with something 🤷

The most disgusting things that actually disable you is not things you see, it's things you smell

[cosmic sigil]

True

[velvet stratus]

How does this games hit reg work?
There have been several instances of me hitting the enemy blood and sound as if I had but no actual damage or stager inflicted.

[plucky flax]

Server is trash

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, that sounds like a lag problem. I had seen too many times that blood and hit sound is here but not hit indicator on my cross.

[velvet stratus]

So the game has questionable server quality?

[ember hornet]

it's been a constant problem since launch, the server has authority over most of what happens and can impact client side animations etc, if the server says no, client can still say yeah you hit it

particularly noticeable on some weapons

and frequently the server can't keep up, at least that used to be a huge issue, and that would cause all kinds of funky client side issues

inputs dropping, animations not playing

[lunar hollow]

queen is not queenofracism

[mild lotus]

This morning, I woke up

[lunar hollow]

has that gone well for you

[strong thicket]

Well that is the desired outcome so it's a start

[warm sequoia]

Hello, fellow psykers. Can someone enlighten me on the Cliffhanger achievement, because from what I can see the ultimate barely pushes targets? It even says that it staggers. not push...

[spice veldt]

the ult stagger scales with how much peril you have at the time of ulting, and hordes seem to have a tendency to not get knocked around as much

[warm sequoia]

See, now this is what I'm talking about

How the hell could I know this "the ult stagger scales with how much peril you have at the time of ulting"????

Where is this written ffs

[spice veldt]

see the future in 10 years when they finally document the mechanics of the game of course

[lunar hollow]

they will never

[spice veldt]

there are usually some choice locations to get the penance

for me, I did mines at vigil station oblivium's finale

[lunar hollow]

mostly because at some point they won't know which iteration of their changes to game mechanics are the most accurate ones

(because they dont fucking write it down anywhere )

i got it at the mid event on vigil station oblivium. poxwalkers/shooters will come down the stairs by the ledge and u can just hit F and fling them off

[warm sequoia]

Thanks for the advice

[mild lotus]

It was eye opening

[steel flame]

Fun fact you don't even need the ult for the achievement, you can just push them off the ledge with your weapon. It doesn't even need a push either all it actually needs is for you to kill falling enemies so if you manage to kill enough enemies while they are falling down a ledge or falling over a box you can get it that way too

They took a shortcut when coding it and just set it to record enemies dying while falling through the kill box, but that also means just enemies falling and dying to other means just works too

Good ole fat shark

[warm sequoia]

Wtf

[steel flame]

Yup

[raw tiger]

Malice game, but the sickest Pox Hound clincher I've pulled off yet
https://streamable.com/0cs2j6

[steel flame]

oh boy this certainly was most important issue plaguing the game that needed to be fixed

Shredder Autopistol (Shrineguard Cerulean) from Commodore's Vestures now has correct colour.

[ornate hamlet]

big if true

[chrome arch]

Hi Siblings 👋

Today I tried Revolver Psyker on damnation, and with great success

First of all, I had a team

Second of all, it had like all breakpoint I could think of

[steel flame]

Good on ya, having a team is hard

[chrome arch]

It couldn't one shot flamers, but Maccabian mk V dueling sword for 25 maniac can

[steel flame]

Now the revolver just needs some decent blessings

[chrome arch]

So true

No respite would be cool to have

But yea literally rolled out with a revolver psyker cos I kept meeting literal schools of surge psyker teammates

[steel flame]

I think trickshooter actually functioning on revolver might be a good start

Maybe try 3 shots instead of 6 for all the stacks when the gun only has 5 shots and loses the stacks on reload anyway

[chrome arch]

And it should be on headshot for say 2.5s

[steel flame]

Perfect game design there

[chrome arch]

So that you can upkeep not making hs after hs

[steel flame]

But that would require........gasp...effort and forethought

[chrome arch]

:C

[steel flame]

Guess it'll never happen

[chrome arch]

Finally got Surge staff with both IV flurry and IV nexus

Can put only one +25 on it though, what should it be?

[steel flame]

Flack

[chrome arch]

I tried to balance it out by placing 25 unarmored but

Eeh

I think flak is much nicer cos it lets you 1charge scab gunners and shotties

Indeed

[steel flame]

Also I've been experimenting with quell canceling the m1 on the surge staff and it slaps

[ornate hamlet]

wait, wrong one

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1iJzxLIj1WW-as/d1337oeQ2EaK?invite=cr-MSxBYzMsMTkwNTkwNTA4LA

Enjoy

[steel flame]

It 1 body shots mobs after 2 warp charges and it melts rangers, shotguns and specials pretty easy since it's 45% chance crits are dealing upwards of 500 per shot

[wet belfry]

Does the primary on staffs actually suffer from falloff damage?

[steel flame]

Not that I can tell

It might but it hasn't been very noticeable if they do

https://streamable.com/wiyjz4 also this

Without a macro too

[chrome arch]

It opens medal, but forces to DL on streamable

[steel flame]

Huh

[wet belfry]

I honestly find the kill rate unimpressive

[chrome arch]

On mobile

[steel flame]

The fact is nobody uses the m1 and they are missing out on 4/5 of the damage the surge can dish out

It's still got the stun

But it can also follow up on its own stuns

[wet belfry]

The damage is being dealt to 1 target and eating tons of peril. The damage isnt either remarkable when compared to some guns.

[ornate hamlet]

In part because the surge staff

does not have the

surge

blessing

[steel flame]

I'm not comparing it to a gun am it? I'm not saying it's better than guns shit I'm not even comparing it to other staves right now, couldn't care less. All I care about is eeking as much value and damage out of a stave as possible and this certainly qualifies

Fact is it has not insignificant kill power on single targets along with it's great stun that it can actually follow up on instead of having to rely on a melee for non flak stuff

I've been running damnation missions with it for the last 2 days using m1 QC spam along with the stun and I can keep up with other staves in terms of kill count and damage. It does take a lot of effort but that's the whole reason I enjoy psyker

[ornate hamlet]

I want to make a surge voidstrike for the express purpose of m1 spam

[steel flame]

if you cancel too fast it also cancels the second projectile

[ornate hamlet]

bad game

[steel flame]

if you increase your pause between inputs down a tiny bit you can still make it work

[agile garden]

Weakspot Damage vs Critical Damage
Has anyone done any testing comparing these two?
I ran out of plasteel to reroll that specialist damage into one or the other and I was trying to test it

[strong thicket]

They both suck

[agile garden]

Thats what everyone says

[strong thicket]

Well yes cause compared to raw dmg from power or everything else they are far inferior

You gain like ... 20 dmg for each?

Don't have the dmg table chart but they ONLY influence the extra bit of dmg on weakspot or critical

[spice veldt]

terrible even on weapons with high weakspot/crit multipliers

damn

[strong thicket]

Autoguns might be the only ones good enough for it cause they critical weakspot is insane

[agile garden]

I am tired of winning vs everything with my force swords, so I wanted to try the mk v duelling for dodging. and I don't like rampage because it sucks vs 1 target, and i do like uncanny strike, but I'm already rending things with my trauma staff

[strong thicket]

Understandable. Nothing against it

It's just that weakspot and crit dmg is like taking shield on ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

Uncanny strike on dueling sword is basically mandatory to not pull your hair trying to kill a single dreg bruiser

[agile garden]

yeah uncanny is great. but i wanted to try the dodge blessings since they are never used and i dodge so much. Riptoste and Precognition

[ornate hamlet]

After some testing I also came to the conclusion I can't even get 300 damage weakspot on infested with the dueling sword, so rampage ironically becomes kinda ass

Which I did praise in the past because it's 40% whole damage, but that ends up doing nothing

The second enemy doesn't even get 100 damage on cleave so you can hit them 3 times or something

[agile garden]

yeah, i just block and dodge until i can pull out staff again

[safe crystal]

Riposte and precog both requires the enemy attack animation to completely finish iirc. This means if they get staggered by any means, youre shit out of luck

[agile garden]

no need toattack in melee

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword is basically locked to me at uncanny, shred, infested and flak/maniac

[strong thicket]

The range is also very limited

[safe crystal]

Weakspot damage increase perk is calculated with (weakspot damage - base damage) * modifier - (weakspot damage - base damage), and its usually between 5-20 damage. Same with crit damage

[ornate hamlet]

And yeah, riposte and precog are trash-tier because you need to actually dodge into the damage instead of doing the sensible thing and avoiding it entire whenever possible

[agile garden]

The dodge blessings, Riptoste and Precognition, need to last longer. like... stack up the duration based on all the attacks that were dodged**

then you could do that whip out staff and be badass

[safe crystal]

So in the case of mkV DS, heavy 1 does 348 on weakspot against poxies, 206 base damage. (348 - 206) * 1.1 with T4 weakspot - (348 - 206) = 156 - 142 = 14

Meanwhile, any of the %damage against armour type actually give you what they advertise

[agile garden]

True. and that fucking sucks. However you are doing that 14 damage across all the damage types. assuming you just fight 1 of each type of enemy which is silly but makes math easier then.

[strong thicket]

Only good crit and weakspot dmg blessings is the one the assault rifles have with extra 50% critical weakspot dmg and it's still subpar to stuff like no respite lol

[safe crystal]

%damage modifiers add around ~100 damage on the heavy. Its up to you if you value consistent 5-20 damage over consistent 100+ damage against specific targets

[plucky flax]

Man is tired of winning.

[ornate hamlet]

Thing is, for the enemies you really need that damage on it's better to just get the damage for them

14 damage on an enemy with 200 health at the cost of 14 damage on an enemy with 4000 is a bad trade

If you can, for example, hit damnation breakpoints on attacks on horde enemies, you don't really need to go overboard unless it's a weapon specifically made with that purpose, like how people don't really care much for just spamming purgatus on specialists because it's better to just brain burst

Some weapons already have good modifiers for a specific armor type, so they go for something that's more needed

[mild lotus]

You mean good

[ornate hamlet]

umgak

[mild lotus]

Silly you

[fluid knot]

Maybe wouldnt have put it so coarsely myself, but i kinda get what he means in a way. Using some weird an wonderful shit every now an then keeps it entertaining an its nice to see how other stuff plays once in a while innit

[plucky flax]

It's okay I'm not flaming. I play antax without bm + revolver for memes on zealot.

[strong thicket]

Imma be honest, decimator + headtaker rahsad kinda slaps

You still get some cleave with the sheer amount of power those two blessings give you lol