#psyker-class

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bronze ice
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woops

strong gulch
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It can be difficult to learn and remember how everything works. It will come together with time. 👍

somber spindle
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anyone wanna play channel 2

final ravine
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is there a way to increase the forcesword duration? It feels too short for me.

hidden crystal
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Not that I know of.

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Unlike with the Power Sword, there's no blessing that lets it do more than one hit on a charge.

harsh urchin
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if you charge it and dont hit, it does last a few seconds

final ravine
steel flame
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That's too bad. Unfortunately it's already the best melee weapon in the game

hidden crystal
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It's a case that you need to charge it right before you use it, it's not something you can do pre-emptively.

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Not "there's an X coming", but "there's an X right here".

cosmic sigil
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if you run shield it's not a bad idea to do it to boost your toughness

final ravine
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does the charged force sword count as a warp attack?

meager plinth
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yep

solar fossil
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whats the best staff rn

meager plinth
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there is no best staff

solar fossil
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i havent played in a few months

meager plinth
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use all 4, go ham

solar fossil
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when i played the best staff was almost undebatabley surge force

upper galleon
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on perk rerolls

meager plinth
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they all do different things so none of them is the best

solar fossil
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is voidstrike good right now

meager plinth
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yep

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theres 2 main builds rn for voidstrike

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transfer peril/warp flurry and surge/warp nexus

solar fossil
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what do those words mean

cosmic sigil
meager plinth
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warp nexus/blazing spirit also works but is less effective than those blessings on trauma

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Its blessing names

cosmic sigil
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i was reffering to the fact you can stroke your phallusi to stay at high tg

upper galleon
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god imagine if the datamined purge staff blessing wasn't removed

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it was rending

meager plinth
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rip anything that stood in front of you

white sky
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Is rending or brittle the one that works for the team?

upper galleon
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hell if i know at this point

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i'm just gaming

hidden crystal
meager plinth
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The shortest explanation is that brittleness is an debuff you apply, while rending is a self-buff

upper galleon
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idk

white sky
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Tyty both

lyric burrow
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i think trauma or purg is the best but even voidstrike/surge is fine

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force swords are good enough to round out anything anyway

burnt maple
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upgraded 7 staves to orange. Warp Nexus 4, 0 times. Terrifying Barrage, 5 times. god this crafting is such trash

long summit
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What main stat curios do you usually run on Psyker? I've been experimenting with them. I definitely want one +stamina cause of my weapon.

burnt maple
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3x health, or 2x health +1 wound sometimes

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1 stam isn't bad, though

lyric burrow
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2 health/1 tough
2 tough/one health
1 stam/1 health/1 tough

long summit
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Seems like I'm considering going stam/wound/tough or health. Not sure which one.

burnt maple
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3 stam curios, run forever

fluid knot
shadow onyx
shadow onyx
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i could legit speak only in mike ohearn gif

plucky flax
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He's too natural.

cyan portal
burnt maple
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this was upgrading from purple

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i could have, yeah

cyan portal
burnt maple
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on the otherhand, it wouldn't have matter because i was fishing for a Blazing Spirit 4 and Warp Nexus 4, and there's 8 possible T4 blessings

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it's just stupid that the worst blessing kept appearing, equal chance of any of the other ones, minus whatever tier 2/3 blessing the purple one already had

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i wasn't even going to use these staves, they were literally just for tier 4 fishing, and now they get to rot in my inventory, taking up space on some server forever.

cosmic sigil
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i think blazin spirit is only t3 no?

burnt maple
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not sure, but it's still on the wheel for blessings roulette

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it might only be 7, but it's all random, the game just loves spitting up trash

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some were from green/blue trauma staves, not all purple now that I'm thinking about it

cosmic sigil
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i think it's like blaze away, only t3

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yeah

harsh urchin
cosmic sigil
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ye

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because, why not

harsh urchin
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i do wish there was some crit support on psyker feats though

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would enable quite a few builds

cosmic sigil
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same same

plucky flax
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Only preacher has crit feats right now no?

shadow onyx
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no

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vet can add + 25% flat crit while ads

cosmic sigil
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and has a 10 crit base too

maiden knoll
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Blaze Blessing ilissi, yay or nay?

cosmic sigil
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it's a meme

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you run it with shred or bloodthirty

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but it's fun

meager plinth
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But Illisi is busted enough that it’s still very useable in damnation

cosmic sigil
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and illisi is good enough to get away with it

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yeah

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totally

maiden knoll
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Ok

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Does it trigger ascendant blaze at all?

meager plinth
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Yep, you can get warp charges from it sometimes

cosmic sigil
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AB will synergizes with it

normal sphinx
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look at all these psyker goobs

meager plinth
near wyvern
shadow onyx
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slaughterer + bloodthirst

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apex predator

feral verge
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damn man

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im seeing a level 500 psyker

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just surging the horde/trash

meager plinth
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what melee they got

feral verge
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for the finale, he was jsut chilling up here. surging shit

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while we were struggling to destroy the infection clusters or whatever

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ppl are losing hp, i got downed

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dude is still chilling up there

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eventually he came down after i called him out

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but continued to surge horde. wouldnt melee

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and what's worse, he wouldnt play the objective either

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he wouldnt attack the infection clusters

meager plinth
feral verge
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i actually semi ragequit

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i usually stay til lthe end, no matter what

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btu for the first time i jsut left

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i said "i know how this is gonna end. sorry fellers, peace"

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this behavior i'd understand from a level 50 psyker or lower

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but 500? lmfao

swift kite
meager plinth
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levels dont mean squat, thats the fallacy of true_level

feral verge
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and he did the same shit

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so yeah, after 800 hours, he will be my first blocked player

swift kite
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ya ive blocked only folks who yell the n word or racist stuff so far (100 hrs of play only 2 other players) been lucky not to have bad teammembers that hide/dont ptfo

feral verge
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here is, doing the same shit from a previous game, almost a week ago

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pics are compressed lmao

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surging horde in left pic, right pic he's standing up on the ledge before the drop down for ammo raid finale

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surging horde, not helping team in a meaningful way

dense yew
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And that's why I feel dirty inside whenever I try to use the surge staff

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Surge psykers have the same vibe as the average Shade in VT2 - just doing their thing with no regard for teamplay

meager plinth
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its a shame cuz its a cool looking staff

gloomy meteor
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Are you not supposed to surge the horde? Im only a level 11 psyker, started yesterday

ornate hamlet
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Surge's secondary deals shit damage to unarmored and infested

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It's better to just pull out the melee and actually kill stuff

feral verge
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shit damage., only stuns 7 enemies

wet belfry
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Being able to melee things is a skill more of the playerbase needs to have.

feral verge
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in a horde of idk 70 enemies, and oyu only stun 7? that's useless

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melee sohuld be used every time

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surge should only be used for elite groups/specials and sometimes shooter groups

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if you bring surge staff, you should be meleeing 80-90% of the time

gloomy meteor
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Yeah im checking out the damage breakdown right now

meager plinth
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And avoid constantly stunning stuff like muties and hounds in situations where your team can kill them

feral verge
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for the most part it is a waste of time to actually try to kill shit with surge. just stun it, then kill it with bb (brain burst) or melee it

meager plinth
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for example, thammer zealot

gloomy meteor
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Mhm, im kind of considering swapping over to zealot instead of psyker, the go fast and bonk hard thing seems to vibe with me better

gloomy meteor
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Having a real bad time with other randoms whenevwr a horde appears right now

feral verge
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i play both psyker and zealot

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i can out damage zealots on my team, as psyker with a melee build

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and i take less damage than them too

ornate hamlet
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Surge is a great tool that many misuse for a two reasons:

  • They think they're helping by stunning enemies, but not all enemies need to be stunned
  • They don't feel confident in melee and want to use something that they think will not make them a detriment, which funnily makes them one
feral verge
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illisi with slaughterer

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it has infinite dodges

gloomy meteor
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Brother im trust 11, ilisi is 15 or 16 required

feral verge
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so oyu can zip around dodging everything and killing everything

ornate hamlet
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The only thing psyker lacks to be utterly goated in melee is a dash ult

feral verge
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it's an amazing horde clear weapon, and decent single target weapon

feral verge
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level up, try it

ornate hamlet
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Since reaching shooter crowds can be a bit tricky without deflector and maybe they'll get up from the ult's knockdown

feral verge
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dont like it, then go to zealot

meager plinth
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amazing single target, a fully buffed Illisi can 1shot a mutie

ornate hamlet
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Oh yeah, and a decent non-force melee toughness regen

gloomy meteor
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Im currently on a slaughterer deimos and surge staff

dense yew
meager plinth
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Purgatus is almost ez mode

ornate hamlet
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Slaughterer deimos is basically heavy-light alternated

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Still does great at hordes because of slaughterer and bullshit high finesse

feral verge
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when played right, psyker can out-zealot most zealots

gloomy meteor
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Currently just having a really rough time, that's all kekW

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I feel too weak to go threat 3 but the people i play with in 1 and 2 are just as bad as me kekW

meager plinth
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malice?

dense yew
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Yeah, I feel ya - until 15 I felt like I was barely tagging along for the ride in most missions I tried, ended up using a voidstrike staff because at least it was proper pew pew, but don't give up (skeleton)

gloomy meteor
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Felt i was carrying the team harder in the lowbie matches on my zealot

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But i guess psyker has growing pains, that's all

dense yew
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It's a late bloomer, is all

gloomy meteor
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Had to try my hardest not to buy the enforcer armor immediately from cash shop with the 2500 starter aquilas and give the other classes a try as well

marble locust
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Hunting for a the replacement blessing, but this can be a 550 perfect rating.

mild lotus
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I have a question, for weapon blessings with an effect that can stack but that has no explicitly given duration, how long does the effect last?

meager plinth
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for example?

marble locust
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For the ones that say on hit, till you miss or don't swing for so long from testing in the meat grinder

meager plinth
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^

mild lotus
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pinning fire

meager plinth
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its counted via the stagger count of the enemies

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staggers are a debuff applied to them

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so you cant see how long it will last

mild lotus
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So the 20% lasts as long as the given enemy is staggered?

marble locust
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How does one obtain Perfect Hair Forever?

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Yeah

mild lotus
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it's joever

meager plinth
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wait nvm

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I misremembered

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for pinning fire its like 2s duration everytime you generate a stagger proc

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2-2.75 smth like that

marble locust
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Yeah, don't confuse Stagger with suppression, Stagger doesn't last too long, and honestly with the way that fires, most of the time it's rather pointless they'll be dead, suppressed more likely.

feral verge
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i did more damage than, and took less damage than the zealot on our team

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this is the build

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i am stacking 3x toughness curios

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160 toughness

gloomy meteor
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alright thank you, im struggling on with the psyker leveling a bit more

feral verge
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ofc, if you try it and dont like it, then stick with zealot

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a well built zealot can do just as much damage as the pic i just posted from my psyker

spice veldt
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playing zealot condemns you to the fate of falling off that pipe at the finale of archivum sycorax

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don't do it

spice veldt
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binch

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i wasn't even attacking you

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and you just come out of nowhere to slam dunk me

feral verge
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almost instantly

lunar hollow
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just like the crusher

feral verge
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put him in his place

spice veldt
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BINCH

feral verge
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when are we playing again fellers

lunar hollow
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one day

safe crystal
ornate hamlet
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yesterday

spice veldt
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what was the other splat

lunar hollow
spice veldt
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mankar is barely innocent

safe crystal
ornate hamlet
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I know I am

lunar hollow
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i love how he like shits himself with blue energy

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like a squid

spice veldt
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that's the same event but from your perspective you bastard

safe crystal
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Just keep watching

lunar hollow
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get to the 2nd part

spice veldt
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OH RIGHT

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well my death made it so you didn't die to the DH

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what's this slander about me being posted for

lunar hollow
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u insulted my boy mankar

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cant stand for that

spice veldt
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ungrateful

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he played zealot so he deserves it

lunar hollow
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lets not pretend like i didnt pick ur weak effeminate ass up right after that clip

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i cradled u in my arms as i unbound u

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smh

spice veldt
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yeah you let that crusher smack me

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just so that you could put me into your arms

lunar hollow
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sometimes u gotta suffer a lil bit to get to the reward

safe crystal
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I also let the crusher smack you, and i had a whole 2 seconds to react to it and use F

lunar hollow
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i think it was worth it

lunar hollow
safe crystal
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Thanmks

lunar hollow
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'also'

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hope u aint referring to me

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ur savior 😇

meager plinth
lunar hollow
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also, it's totally on brand for someone to get fucking smashed to bits and and have an ogryn laugh at that

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its just more rp

spice veldt
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yeah you rp as an ogryn a lot don't you

lunar hollow
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in the grand total of all dt matches ive played no

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just trying to impress u bigflush

spice veldt
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interesting stategy

safe crystal
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I need to stop rolling shit on my vet

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Im getting depressed with my luck

meager plinth
safe crystal
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Why cant i have good rolls on my thammer

lunar hollow
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because thammer is one of the worst weapons to ever have to roll

limber silo
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BM or Shred on VII tact axe?

safe crystal
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Im aware

lunar hollow
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no, you're iceslow

lunar hollow
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then u want either shred/deci/headtaker, but u need BM the most

limber silo
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aight

safe crystal
lunar hollow
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ksznf,bghv xcsFJ:"HxlgBZ'SFLKGBHJDSFG:KLH
SDFGH"dhkl;jdzgfh;knjfgszdjnikrygtadfhdjns;'OHERT

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I CANT BELIEVE THIS

meager plinth
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betrayed and backstabbed

feral verge
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@gloomy meteor last bit of inspiration

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3 high level zealots on the team

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i could have taken less damage but... i blew up....

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twice :/

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second time wasnt my fault though.

stuck spruce
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how do you see this stat ?

feral verge
stuck spruce
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ty

feral verge
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np homie

mild lotus
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Should the 4 little dots next to a perk be lit up for the perk to be maxed? Or are 3 enough?

feral verge
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perks have 4 tiers

burnt maple
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4 is max, 3 is tier 3, etc

feral verge
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so yes, all 4 dot lit up means its t4 perk. t4 is the cap for both blessings and perks

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on this sword, oyu can see t3 flak damage and t4 maniac damage

steel flame
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did you know? perks have 4 tiers

burnt maple
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that's the perk about perks!

steel flame
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i hope we get a total blessing rework at some point

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the more i play with revolver the more i realize that its entire blessing pool is different tiers of trash

burnt maple
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there's so much crap they should do to make crafting less of a crap hole. but they're totally fine with player base hating a defining aspect of thier game

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so many dead blessings

steel flame
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still dont understand why handcannon triggers on crits and not headshots

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every other rending thing is on headshots ;~;

burnt maple
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and we have no crit support feats

steel flame
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roulette kinda sucks and the melee kill might give you a crit maybe blessing sucks too

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why would i want to run around with 1 bullet in my revolver for half a chance for a crit that wont actually kill most of the things i would need crits for

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MAN ISNT TRICK SHOOTER COOL, +5% POWER ON CHAINED HEADSHOTS UP TO 5 STACKS?! IT SURE WOULD BE GREAT IF MY GUN DIDNT ONLY HAVE 5 BULLETS MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER GET ALL THE STACKS

ornate hamlet
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Roulette gives a snazzy crit chance boost

steel flame
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yeah if you run around with a half empty gun

meager plinth
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the one good thing about roulette is that its guaranteed

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while the other blessings are conditional

ornate hamlet
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It's just an overall damage boost like headhunter

steel flame
meager plinth
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idk what other quality you want it to have??

ornate hamlet
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You aren't banking on the crit happening all the time and forcing the conditions, you're banking on the gun likely dealing more damage in situations where you actually fire all 5 shots

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Which also goes with the nice base crit chance and other blessings like surgical or point blank

steel flame
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roulette definitely tops the pile of blessings,

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which isnt a very high bar mind you

ornate hamlet
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I think it's something the other blessings should be built for

fluid knot
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Point Blank + Speedloader/Handcannon

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At least if you're playing Zealot

meager plinth
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yea but im not always in melee

ornate hamlet
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It doesn't radically change the weapon's performance like slaughterer would, but still works as a neat bonus

meager plinth
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so I wont always benefit from point blank

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compared to roulette

ornate hamlet
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The revolver without crucian roulette is not radically different to a point where you feel like the weapon is awful without it

fluid knot
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Its still got a fairly high base crit anyway

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Revvy gud

ornate hamlet
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The base weapon still needs a tweak or two because it's clearly vet-oriented with the two reload feats and the reload ult, but the now is getting some saucy damage even on psyker

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Well, I should probably say "even on zealot" because that is the de facto worst revolver user

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But I'm not crazy and don't use revolver on zealot

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It probably works with point blank well tho

meager plinth
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that will prob come with the 2 other mark patterns for volver

ornate hamlet
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Like

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At the very least

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The bare absolute minimum

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Give revolver a speedloader

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Putting bullets one by one is badass and all and they did make different reloads for each ammo count, but

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Man, it's almost 4 fucking seconds

fluid knot
ornate hamlet
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I've seen machineguns in Planetside 2 do a full reload faster than the base 80% revolver

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Those things have like 75 shots in them

fluid knot
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This is not Planetside2...

meager plinth
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what

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ofc it is

fluid knot
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Besides, partial, or rather, staged reloads are a thing an if you're not leveraging that, you're missing half the reason the gun is good

ornate hamlet
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After zealot fires 5 shots, they have to make space to reload the gun

fluid knot
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Which is trivial to do..

ornate hamlet
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Psyker has brain burst and better base damage, while vet has 3 feats oriented towards making the reload better

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Zealot has nothing that directly benefits the revolver besides a close range buff

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They don't have an area stagger like psyker does, a backup weapon in the form of brain burst or less reload downtime to keep firing like the vet

fluid knot
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Other than the whole mechanic of it being a quickdraw weapon, which favours a melee orientated character more than a ranged one

ornate hamlet
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Revolver vet is absolutely nutty, of course it favors ranged

fluid knot
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For example, you're not going to pull out a Kant'XII without eating some hits, nor are you dealing with a couple of shotgunners in your face by doing so, the revvy does exactly that, and very quickly to boot

meager plinth
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or killing a trapper or burster

fluid knot
ornate hamlet
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Yeah, and vet fits the weapon that "favours melee" like a glove

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The gun that "favours melee"

fluid knot
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Thats a very facetious comment. It works on Zealot because you can leverage it in times of need, you shouldnt be running about with your gun out all the time on that class, thats idiotic

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Having something you can pull out on demand and wipe something being a nuisance and then go back to melee is S tier mechanical loop

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Saying its worst on Zealot is absolutely fucking obtuse KEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
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It is a factual statement

meager plinth
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why do you think its worst?

fluid knot
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More to the point, why would you take reload feats over Deadshot/Dnd comboKEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
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Vet makes the best use of it through 2 reload speed and an instant reload ult, psyker buffs its damage at any range, has a backup ranged weapon and can clear space for the lengthier reload, and zealot only gets a ranged damage buff for close range

meager plinth
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yea but you dont need those buffs to perform well

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a shotgunner will die regardless

ornate hamlet
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Because the revolver already has great crits without deadshot, I've played both deadshot and OAA and found OAA to be better for damage output

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Zealot is objectively the class that synergizes with revolver the least

meager plinth
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for the feats maybe, but for the gameplay its excelent

ornate hamlet
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Revolver is a decent weapon now and will perform decently with all 3, but zealot is the one that benefits the weapon the least

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Zealot is at the bottom of this list of 3 people and, by definition, the worst

wet belfry
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Isnt zealot just in general worse at using ranged weapons compared to either vet or psyker?

ornate hamlet
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Yep

meager plinth
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it might not perform as well cuz it doesnt have similar feats but what matters a lot is its utility

full bane
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I run tac reload over nade regen with revolver but Deadshot is too good to pass up on with revolver

meager plinth
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the most dangerous thing for a zealot is being immobilized

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whether its gunfire or specials

agile garden
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Trauma Staff
Should I do

  • Rending Shockwave?
  • Focused Channeling?
    and
    Carapace/Flak?
    avoid Surge because it doesn't affect secondary attack?
feral verge
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rending shockwave and warp flurry

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focused channeling isnt useless, but its idk memey

spice veldt
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i stan focused channeling

feral verge
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unless you are crazy aggressive, oyu sohuldnt need it

agile garden
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Why flurry you can't ever reach 5 stacks of it before you have to shunt heat

feral verge
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warp flurry is amazing on trauma becasue it: makes it way faster, and reduces charge cost

spice veldt
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if you are running focused channeling, i'd prefer warp flurry over rending shockwave unless you play premades

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you don't need to reach 5 stacks to get a benefit from it

feral verge
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dont charge staff all the way up. throw a few weak charges out to get stacks

agile garden
lethal folio
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Also shout vent.

agile garden
spice veldt
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it's still a charge speed bonus and reduced peril cost

feral verge
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use ult

lethal folio
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F

spice veldt
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esp on trauma where the bulk of its peril generation comes from the channeling process

feral verge
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plus if oyu run the feat that reduces peril cost with warp chjarges + warp battery, you can cast it for days

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warp flurry is #1 blessing overall on all staffs, for MOST (not all) builds

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especially trauma

agile garden
feral verge
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Warp flurry on trauma reduces it biggest weakness, which is it's charge cost

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Flak yes

agile garden
feral verge
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2nd perk is debatable

agile garden
spice veldt
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unarmoured is primarily for dreg bruisers, who have 450hp

feral verge
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I use the kinetic barrage

fallow meadow
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good enough to buy?

fluid knot
fallow meadow
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Thx, I may just stay with axe than.

meager plinth
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if you dont have unstable power 4, that could be a good one

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but it would need some love

fallow meadow
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Unstable power is the most important thing, got it.

mild lotus
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meh, I suppose unstable power 4 is 5% based on peril, that's not very useful compared to say slaughterer 4 which is a beast

burnt maple
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if you know how to play high peril it is

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Unstable 4 is one of the few good blessings

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especially on a deimos

meager plinth
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its 20% power at max

burnt maple
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which is 45% with Warp Unleashed

mild lotus
burnt maple
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it stacks

meager plinth
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it stacks 4 times

mild lotus
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did I just get darktide again?

spice veldt
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fatshark description-itis

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trust no one

meager plinth
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each stack is at 20, 40, 60 and 80% peril

mild lotus
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it doesn't even say that it stacks

#

it just says 4% based on peril

burnt maple
#

a lot of blessings don't

#

Deathspitter is another

#

Warp Nexus didn't even say what it gave you

mild lotus
#

I'm going to commit Perils of the Warp on FS studio

ornate hamlet
#

I wish I had 4% based

#

Wait, deathspitter stacks?

burnt maple
#

right

ornate hamlet
#

Does fire frenzy as well?

burnt maple
#

no, i don't think that one does

lunar hollow
#

they both stack 5 times

ornate hamlet
#

Fatsharked

burnt maple
#

fire frenzy, does

#

thinking of different blessing

#

says it does, too

mild lotus
#

These descriptions gave me daemon possession

#

check out this elite(Ogryn) killer revolver

ornate hamlet
#

The dark voices tell you to surrender surgical

meager plinth
#

niiice

mild lotus
#

i'm gonna keep it and never use it

#

as a memento

fallow meadow
#

Alots of blessing stack with no hint.

#

Things are much worst when the blessing wasn't there

ornate hamlet
#

On vet at least I didn't notice a quantifiable difference to carapace

#

But with elites there and psyker buffs I think you can slap unarmored to one-shot dreg gunners

#

Buffs might let you one-shot scab ones too? idk

#

Like, without a crit or two I can't kill a crusher in 5 headshots on vet

#

Though I also had 6% weakspot instead of carapace and elites stacked

fallow meadow
#

Scab have less hp if my memory is right, so I would say yes.

ornate hamlet
#

Yep

#

Dreg is 1050 and scab is 950, I think

#

Armor types are kinda stupid sometimes

#

"We made this enemy have armor, but we gave him less health"

#

Uh thanks?

marble locust
#

Carapace, as a psycher at least I just BB them.

burnt maple
#

dreg are unarmored, scabs are flak

spice veldt
#

and a lot of weapons dunking on flak

marble locust
#

Dreg and scab depend on which ones and where you hit them

#

No helmet headshot is unarmored

mild lotus
#

flak barely stops anything, even autopistols are still good against flak

fallow meadow
#

Scab melee mob is a bit more annoying sometimes. But the other flak armor rarely make a big enough different.

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah, dreg elites have flak on the body for some reason

burnt maple
#

dreg bruisers, the melee ones, their helmets are carapace

#

same with maulers

ornate hamlet
#

Dreg bruisers are flak helmets

burnt maple
#

hmm i was pretty sure it was carapace

ornate hamlet
#

And they have 450 health too KEKW_ogryn

mild lotus
#

no enemies save for elites have carapace

#

unarmoured and flak perks are god tier imo on most weapons

fallow meadow
#

Yap, only elites can be carapace

marble locust
#

The feet of the Scabs are unarmored too for the ones with helmets

ornate hamlet
#

2 charges + WU

mild lotus
ornate hamlet
#

Scabs are 900 health and die in a shot from WU alone

#

Another psyker W on base damage

mild lotus
#

anyone can use the revolver afaik(save for ogryn), not really a W

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah, but I can't hit the one-shot with the same revolver on vet chadogryn

mild lotus
#

bastion L 220 combat stance for them I guess then

warm latch
#

how important is first target on a force sword?

burnt maple
#

why do they shout the stance, like an anime lol

mild lotus
#

especially if you intend on using its special move to take out big bois

burnt maple
#

First Target and Damage are the most important

#

warp resist is whatever

mild lotus
#

force swords overall are pretty mono target save for a few moves

burnt maple
#

finesse is important, too but less than First Target and Damage, mobility is whatever

spice veldt
#

heavies have a fair amount of cleave

burnt maple
#

illisi is a cleaver

mild lotus
#

overall

spice veldt
#

i like my finesse purely for the attack speed bonus, even if it's not much

burnt maple
#

if you're doing Warp Unleashed + Unstable, low warp resist is preferrable

mild lotus
#

warpbrain

#

edging 24/7 smh

fallow meadow
#

Just use Trauma to build up first. It can also clear some space.

mild lotus
#

or just right click in the emptyness with your BB

#

ez 100%

fallow meadow
#

That charge a bit too slow just for peril

mild lotus
#

but requires no enemy and doesn't need a staff

spice veldt
#

somewhat slow at 10% peril per second with BB

lunar hollow
#

i remember when i used to right click for every brainburst

lunar hollow
#

god bless stuck in malice josho

mild lotus
#

you're supposed to use it when it's calm

spice veldt
#

even when it's calm, i prefer something that can generate a bunch of peril such as for quietitude

lunar hollow
#

45 warp res trauma my beloved

#

(definitely not coping)

spice veldt
#

trauma generates ~20% peril over 1.3 seconds at 80% charge rate and 80% warp res

mild lotus
#

IF you use a trauma staff

spice veldt
#

or force swords with meh warp res

mild lotus
#

if you have no staff and a gun, you can't do that

spice veldt
#

with the illisi, i believe the activation is roughly 0.7 seconds

mild lotus
#

you can't spam the activation

spice veldt
#

yes you can with the illisi

mild lotus
#

you have to hit something or wait for the power-up to wear off

spice veldt
#

you can activate the illisi's special while the special is up

#

the other force swords you can't do that

#

but even on the others, you can just swap off to cancel the special and reactivate it

mild lotus
#

I use the obscurus to take out maulers

lunar hollow
#

god bless qq

fallow meadow
ornate hamlet
#

Right now I'm trying this shit with 2 toughness and 1 stamina

spice veldt
#

albeit like 5% and it puts you in an animation for a bit

mild lotus
#

does corruption resistance only affect grimoires?

spice veldt
#

corruption res affects everything

ornate hamlet
#

Corruption resistance affects non-grimoire sources except the grimoire pickup corruption apparently

spice veldt
#

corruption res affects both the initial corruption and the corruption over time

ornate hamlet
lunar hollow
#

i love 45% warp res

spice veldt
#

the claim to fame that grim corrupt res has is probably just the higher bonus (20% compared to whatever corrupt res's t4 is)

lunar hollow
#

15%

mild lotus
spice veldt
#

pro gaming

#

i could never

lunar hollow
#

liar

ornate hamlet
spice veldt
#

i could never because i always explode before my ult is even close to being up

mild lotus
#

then I guess this is a decent curio

spice veldt
#

there is no hope in this world at all times

lunar hollow
#

i was conditioned like a goddamn DOG into believing battle meditation would continue proccing

#

hate pavlov

#

stupid bastard

spice veldt
#

dum binch

ornate hamlet
#

russian racism

lunar hollow
#

at least the game literally deleted the poxwalkers around me (without having to have arco's god awful ultrathin laptop graphics)

ornate hamlet
#

Fuck corruption resistance, just run faster

lunar hollow
mild lotus
ornate hamlet
#

I really can't

#

I was an asshole to her and this ruined the relationship

lunar hollow
#

good for u

fallow meadow
#

Why you are upgrading a 2 stamina one anyway lol.

mild lotus
#

I just fiddled a perk

#

low investment for decent reward so far

patent steeple
#

btw, i dunno if running illisi with AB build is a good idea, but i myself end up in specific kinds melee situation often.

the melee situations in question are the ones where i get so surrounded/ganged up on by a horde, that i cannot get the staggered by a FS push or purge left click...

spice veldt
#

corruption res is generally a niche perk unless you know you're running a grim mission, since corruption during general gameplay is not that much

mild lotus
#

you're going to make me reroll

spice veldt
#

yes

lunar hollow
#

it is also useful on hishock if ur ever my teammate

fallow meadow
#

I guess it help a bit on fighting BoN.

lunar hollow
#

(i am prone to turning bursters into remotely detonated explosives)

spice veldt
lunar hollow
#

woah

#

whats that for

mild lotus
#

the warp take you

spice veldt
#

to make them reroll

lunar hollow
#

o

#

ok carry on

lunar hollow
#

im sorry ok i didnt mean to like most of the time ive done it to u

fallow meadow
#

Come back only when you have a T4 lol.

lunar hollow
#

shouldve had corruption res

mild lotus
spice veldt
#

that little ass piece of corruption that i took from getting hit by a poxwalker pushed me ever-so-slightly over the edge for getting full-killed by those two bursters

lunar hollow
#

u were my human shield

#

i was sitting at the edge of both blasts

#

bing chilling

spice veldt
#

that convenient ass pillar blocking the burster to the left

#

also that crusher doing a kick instead of an overhead on you

#

plot armor

lunar hollow
#

honestly when the crusher entered my FOV my brain stopped working

lunar hollow
spice veldt
#

anime villain when they have the mc grabbed but decide to throw them away instead

lunar hollow
#

i have the best luck ever until i dont

fallow meadow
#

poxwalker dog and beast should be the main source of corruption damage.

lunar hollow
#

that death was fuckin funny though

#

like if u think about it

#

the comedic value of getting blasted from 1 burster into the other is pretty high

#

pingponged

spice veldt
#

yeah it's very funny when you're not the person in question

mild lotus
#

laughing at your comrades death

#

smh sibling

spice veldt
#

and having plot armor to save you from the burster and the crusher

lunar hollow
#

u literally have the clip of me running headfirst into a burster, eating the blast, and laughing

#

u dummy

spice veldt
#

well you're a psychopath

lunar hollow
#

ur the one attempting to woo a psychopath

#

smh

spice veldt
#

TRUE

fallow meadow
#

Psyker shit talking each other as psychopath, lore friendly.

mild lotus
lunar hollow
mild lotus
#

what diff is this?

lunar hollow
#

damnation

lunar hollow
mild lotus
#

> damnation
> allies try to kill you
checks out

spice veldt
#

i got launched into a bruiser who was swinging at me

lunar hollow
#

u got combo'd

mild lotus
#

Darktide may Cry

lunar hollow
#

i swear to god the most nefarious shit happens when i play in a premade with anyone else

#

and sometimes it isnt my fault

mild lotus
#

tfw you're a lamenter irl

lunar hollow
#

here's an example of a small rube goldberg machine

fallow meadow
#

This is funny. So walls don't block damage zone.

lunar hollow
#

oh no they do

#

what i think happens here is that the burster model clips

mild lotus
#

walls are illusions of teh warp

lunar hollow
#

and it clips through the door in this sort of perfect tragedy way

#

and the epicenter is put through the door

#

and hits the psyker

ornate hamlet
#

Fun factoid

#

Psyker's BB can be used through those doors

lunar hollow
#

here's an example of me doing the exact opposite

#

this is pretty mild as far as fucking with hitboxes goes

fallow meadow
#

You remind me that I did try to kill a burster in the spawn room. And I did got caught in the explosion.

lunar hollow
#

well the doors don't count

#

those aren't safe from burster dets

#

what are, is like, part of the doorframe and sometimes the wall beside it

#

or, it could be that the burster model does weird stuff and the epicentre goes through the door. sometimes you can hit straight through a door and not get hit

#

it's complicated, and sometimes you get 3 people who all die to 1 burster explosion cuz they were spawncamping a door

lunar hollow
#

and other times you get me with darktide plot armor who discovers all the spots you're immune to bursters via terrain right when i need it

lunar hollow
#

thanks babe

spice veldt
#

yw

grizzled iris
#

Doors don't count as walls, that's why

ornate hamlet
#

I think it's some jank due to how the door is a movable object in the world

#

my guess is, as you probably noticed

#

the door and the room are separate

#

you can't go in the room not because of the door, but because the room itself prevents you, since you can't enter it when it's open

#

and the door might be treated as missing its own collision during the opening animations, which are triggered by enemies at the door

#

except it doesn't follow the physical door, since games treat the object itself and the collision separately

#

so you get the jank

#

the door is there visually, but in code no

#

just like how you can see an object in the world, but if someone forgets the clip brush you just phase through it

#

shit's wacky

lunar hollow
#

my favorite fact about spawn rooms

#

is you that can hit more enemies oftentimes by swinging through the walls next to the door

#

that big double door thing on consignment yard's mid event, under the dropdown

#

if you go to the right of it and swing through the wall you can kill shit before it even gets to the door

ornate hamlet
#

jank gaming

#

they might've given up trying to set up the collision between the weapon and the wall

#

it works in Source because your knife is just a gun that fires a short range bullet

#

easier to stop

agile garden
#

Unarmored and Infested are BIS perks? why not flak, or +horde

#

What is Quell Cancel?
Those feats don't make any sense, unless you have soulblaze on trauma?

ornate hamlet
#

shit was fucking saucy

#

Ogryn saved me and uhhh I don't remember who at the start by spawning in on us eating shit from shooters

mild lotus
#

where does this scoreboard come from?

sage widget
#

Mods

ornate hamlet
#

Then shit happened and two of them died and me and the ogryn went from the elevator room to the bathroom spawn in what was a fucking relentless gauntlet of specials and shooters

mild lotus
#

you have to mod the scoreboard INTO THE GAME?

sage widget
#

I do recommend installing a few. Makes your life way more convinient with this game. Sadly fatshark dropped the ball on quite a lot of QoL features

ornate hamlet
#

Some of the best 43 minutes I had in the game and I had to go full sweatlord mode for it

sage widget
#

They said they wanted to avoid bringing toxicity to the game.

ornate hamlet
#

On another note, kinetic deflection was a lot less needed than I imagined, but I also do have block efficiency and stamina to counter it a bit

#

And since I play without KD on other classes, the transition isn't too harsh

#

I have a ton of melkbux, so

#

Honestly I might spend some to roll for a 3 stamina curio

#

Time to put the mysterious item system to work

near wyvern
near wyvern
spice veldt
#

though you only need 2 warp charges with >71% damage to one-shot poxwalkers with a full charge

cloud star
#

Which feats and blessings do I want for a surge/illisi 323133 build?

solar fossil
#

what are the force swords ranked

#

i heard obuscurus and deimos were good and that illisi was bad

ornate hamlet
#

Illisi is the most versatile one, deimos has funny burst damage and obscurus just lags behind

solar fossil
#

oooh so its obscurus thats the bad one

#

okok

ornate hamlet
mild lotus
#

Illisi is for horde clearing, Deimos is for mono target DPS, Obscurus is in between

#

all of that is afaik from my quick trial in the psykhanium

#

If I were to rank them it would look like the following:
Illisi > Obscurus > Deimos

#

but then again you can compensate one's failings with your choice of ranged weapon or with your team composition if your play in a group

steel flame
#

Soulblaze trauma absolutely needs you to use quell to cancel the end of the casting animation, allowing you to immediately start the next cast

#

Turns staff into a machine gun letting you set all the things on fire and just absolutely melt everything

ornate hamlet
#

No no no, deimos is infinitely nuttier than obscurus

#

It does good horde clear because of slaughterer and finesse, and still has fantastic single-target

spice veldt
#

obscurus has a shittier light combo, and the only stab it has is its 3rd light

#

deimos' stabs are its 1st light and 2nd heavy, and they're not hidden behind the shittiest uppercut in existence

mild lotus
#

I mean who spam just lights in a combo except new comers?

ornate hamlet
#

me

spice veldt
#

lights have better single-target DPS (on armour types that it deals 100% damage to)

#

the lights on the obscurus are also slower

#

at the very least, i know that the obscurus's 1st light has more endlag than the illisi's 1st light

mild lotus
ornate hamlet
#

The crusher boss is pretty chill

#

The sword guy is annoying tho

lunar hollow
#

kill

mild lotus
#

I count monstrosities in the lot

spice veldt
#

having the stab as the 1st light (the stab deals 2x damage to the first target) is pretty good

#

instead of being behind the 2nd heavy or 2nd light (fucking uppercut on a finesse weapon)

lunar hollow
#

the crusher one just kinda chills and sometimes does an overhead

mild lotus
#

not saying the opposite but it doesn't make or break the obscurus by any mean

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah

lunar hollow
#

sword boss out here with the goddamn combos

spice veldt
#

yes

#

i am very well aware that the obscurus is a good weapon

#

i mained it for 400 hours before the new force swords dropped

#

but it is absolutely behind the deimos

lunar hollow
#

the deimos's h2 is just absolutely goddamn insane

mild lotus
#

what does it do so well then?

lunar hollow
#

poke things

#

one shots a mutie to the head consistently

spice veldt
#

light stab is the 1st light (2x damage), heavy stab is the 2nd heavy (2.5x damage)

#

mildly better dodges

lunar hollow
#

with this roll a single special charge (and then QQ swap) lets u 1 shot a mutie to the head with the poke

mild lotus
#

QQ swap?

lunar hollow
#

hit Q twice to switch off your weapon and immediately back

#

cancels the charge but keeps the peril

#

also does things like this

#

the pokes just do a shit ton of damage. add in a lil bit of peril and some warp charges and u start 1 shotting a lot of enemies

mild lotus
#

hitting Q to switch weapon staregryn
hitting horn of the wheel to switch weapon thumbsup_ogryn

ornate hamlet
#

horn

mild lotus
#

honk honk

#

I use the brake pedal for special moves

plucky flax
meager plinth
#

I spam lights with chainsword

#

fast attacks go hard

night nest
#

Literally just started psyker, how do I do the flames?

teal needle
#

Purgatus staff

dense yew
steep bridge
#

What perks would yall put on shredder pistol?

mild lotus
#

flak armoured dmg and unarmoured or infested dmg

#

I don't know the entire pool of perks for the shredder tho, there might be a better option but flak, unarmoured and infested are easy gotos when you don't know what to take imo

cold hornet
#

Thinking of beginning a curio grind for the psyker. Is Toughness Regen worth a slot? It only affects coherency and not Essence harvest regen right?

lyric burrow
#

toughness regen probably one of the best curio perks

#

i dont remember if it affects regen outside of coherency but +30%/22% toughness regen on 3 curios means you get it back very fast even outside of melee if your near a teammate or 2

#

particularly helpful if you run toughness curios

feral verge
#

first time playing revolver on psyker

cold hornet
#

Was thinking of trying to get another of this one

feral verge
#

after 650 hours of psyker playtime, level 450

cold hornet
#

and then a stam one

feral verge
#

i kinda like it

#

especially on a high peril b uild, which is what i almost always run

#

lets me kill shit when im at max peril

cold hornet
#

frees up from having to use the peril block skill

feral verge
#

instead of venting

obsidian girder
#

finally some good fuckin food

cold hornet
#

Revolver has the toughness of kill blessing too? I feel that would be the way I run it

feral verge
#

this what i got

#

i could put glory hunter on it

lyric burrow
#

think i run the same thing

#

crucian is the only blessing i really like on it the 2nd one is usually just w/e

feral verge
#

pairs really well with this

#

i can instantly get to high peril, and get easy warp unleashed boosted dmg for revolver

#

plus i always got 5 or 6 warp charges

strong thicket
#

I picked up a rashad with decimator. Decided to build dmg around it, a sorta melee build

#

I do 800+ dmg to crushers KEKW_ogryn

feral verge
#

last game's stat, with this build + revolver

#

melee 90% of the time

strong thicket
#

So I guess revolver just pops that gunner in the back and then you keep slashing?

feral verge
#

yep, usually

#

again, really useful cuz im at high peril

#

my sword instantly puts me at 100%

#

so it saves me time from having to quell and BB

lethal folio
#

I say revolver is one of psyker's top ranged choices now.

cold hornet
#

revolver pops heads better than bb?

feral verge
#

especially cuz its aimbot

strong thicket
#

Revolver is just fast

feral verge
#

yeah

#

faster than switching to bb and quelling

#

when at 100% peril

lunar hollow
#

why would u wanna quell 100% peril is where the fun is

feral verge
#

this

lunar hollow
#

u basically just tap R for 1 tick then brainburst

#

the only time u really dont wanna do that is KB vs bosses

feral verge
#

but revo can be faster than that

lunar hollow
#

yea but there's a sex appeal to brainburst

#

can't pass that up

#

in such a bitches starved economy

feral verge
#

sex isnt real, sorry

lethal folio
#

bb into stub on bulwarks is very satisfying.

feral verge
#

i also got cerebral lac

lunar hollow
#

tbf with illisi u can run literally any ranged weapon

feral verge
#

useful for BB mutie, then annihilating with revo

lunar hollow
#

weapon carries the loadout

feral verge
#

yeah the illsi is very sexual

#

this new one i got is devastating

lunar hollow
strong thicket
#

Unstable power and slaughterer killing any non boss enemy you meet lmao

lunar hollow
#

gotta pad the scoreboard

lunar hollow
feral verge
#

i used to run this (left) before i made right

lunar hollow
#

i have to get unstable 4 on an illisi

#

but that requires playing the game, and player psyker

#

fucking godroll rippers won't build themselves

feral verge
#

ogryn the easiest to roll for

lunar hollow
#

unless ur name is josho__

strong thicket
#

Cause of ba changes

feral verge
#

lower weapon selection means higher chance of getting weapons/blessings you want at melk

strong thicket
lunar hollow
#

i am actually the catalyst for getting that fixed because i told lazorr about it and people got into a discussion in #zealot-class about what to change to the code to fix it

#

some weird domino effect shit

strong thicket
#

Leave me overpowered ripper gun alone angymorrow

lunar hollow
#

no!!!!

#

ideally, the fix will just make it stack earlier on 21 mags

strong thicket
#

Wanna go into assassination and absolutely shit on that captain

lunar hollow
#

i mean u could do that before the BA changes

#

and still so

lyric burrow
#

kickback tho

grizzled iris
#

Best Psyker weapon

feral verge
#

lol

lunar hollow
#

bringing a mk 5 and magdumping with brace into the shield is so fucking satisfying

strong thicket
lunar hollow
#

ogryn is the best class

feral verge
#

ogryn too slow for me

lunar hollow
#

only one ur allowed to magdump voidshields without being called stupid

strong thicket
feral verge
#

i have had an ogryn at level 23 since november

lunar hollow
#

ogryn feels so much better at 30

strong thicket
#

It's so easy to build a good ogg

#

And it's so effective

lunar hollow
#

ogryn and psyker are the 2 classes i liked way more when they hit level 30

#

unstoppable was a gamechanger feat

#

that level 30 option is on par with counterfire for how much it changes what you do with your ult

strong thicket
#

I'm glad more people have seen the light

lunar hollow
#

it literally turns any fight where ur walking into a dense patrol from a tense situation to like

#

basically resolved instantly

#

oh boy a shit ton of reapers, shooters, bulwarks, and gunners

strong thicket
#

The extra movement and attack speed as well

lunar hollow
#

what ever will i do!?!?

lunar hollow
#

thank god u can cancel the charge

strong thicket
#

The amount of times I would get screwed if I couldn't cancel

#

Jumping off ledges, going too far into a horde

lunar hollow
#

the best is hitting F and charging past a barrel ur teammate shot

#

and getting fucking launched

#

now ur just chillin, other end of the map, "this is my life now"

#

swarmed by a shit ton of shooters

strong thicket
#

That said, kinetic barrage on bosses is so nice

lunar hollow
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KB is the shit

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i literally can't use AB without wasting charges constantly cuz im so used to KB

strong thicket
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Same, I love my charges

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4% dmg doesn't look like much

lyric burrow
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think ive used not barrage twice in 500 hours

strong thicket
strong thicket
cold hornet
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I am a Quicken convert now

lyric burrow
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yeah barrage just feels very good

strong thicket
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I have tried ascending blaze and quicken and while yes the cc and the clear feels somewhat nice

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The amount of problems the barrage solves is too much of a game changer

cold hornet
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You run Inner Tranq to double down on how many times to bb, or not worth?

feral verge
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warp unleashed homie

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it unlocks a ferw breakpoinmts

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inner tranq only good for trauma staff spam builds

lunar hollow
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WU is better outside of trauma staff spam yea

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helps you hit 1 shots on ragers/flamers

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and if you have 5+ charges and sit at 100% peril for both BBs u can 2 shot a crusher

feral verge
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i can 2 shot reapers

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cerebral lac + warp unleashed + warp battery

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i run those feats on every build

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too comfy

lunar hollow
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im a communion enjoyer

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managing warp charges is for people who have the attention span for looking at things that arent enemies

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couldnt be me

feral verge
lunar hollow
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dont fucking start with me mankar i defended u from arco

strong thicket
lunar hollow
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i basically never deviate

feral verge
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2 main builds. purga and melee

lunar hollow
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i dont have good toughness curios so i get fuck all value from kinetic shield

strong thicket
feral verge
lunar hollow
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i've seen what aura + flayer does to a man

feral verge
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i have 160 toughness

lunar hollow
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i will never touch that combo

feral verge
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in my baby psyker days

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when i only really used voidstrike for a longass time lol

lunar hollow
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i watched 2 separate psykers trigger a DH with flayer

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that shit was traumatizing

feral verge
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yeah i was in one of those games i think

lunar hollow
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i think u were in both

strong thicket
safe crystal
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You were in both

lunar hollow
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u were one of the victims

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of arco's evil scheme

feral verge
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oh yeah

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alas, alas

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i want to play with ya'll, but i am afraid of what that entails

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triggering DHs

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barrels

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bursters

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very stressful

lyric burrow
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maybe i should use flayer one day

lunar hollow
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its all part of the fun

safe crystal
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Im only hunting Josho specifically, you would be safe

lunar hollow
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u have to embrace the chaos

lunar hollow
feral verge
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may chaos take the world

safe crystal
strong thicket
lunar hollow
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what if i apologize

safe crystal
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Yeah, that'll do

lunar hollow
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im sorry it was mean of me to say i would assassinate u

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i will not announce it again

feral verge
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or otherwise fail to push the burster

safe crystal
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Im not spiteful, im just in for the fun if were both going for it

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Just say if it goes too far

lunar hollow
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next time i will sneak attack u

feral verge
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the dumbest vet moment i'

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ve ever seen was

feral verge
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a vet used the voice line "i need ammo" a few times. he was very low

feral verge
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a burster spawns, i make my way to push it. vet is far away from burster, and its obvoius i am going toi push it. no one is in 'danger' of the burster

strong thicket
feral verge
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but the idiot starts shooting at it anyway

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with low ammo

strong thicket
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And then you hear aaaaahhhggh

feral verge
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i was able to dodge just far away enough to avoid the boom

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most pub vet players are literal brainlets

strong thicket
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It's the poster boy syndrome

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Although zealot also attracts all the saltzpyre gamers

feral verge
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another stereotype ive noticed

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ogryns and vets tend to leave if downed, within 10 mins of game start

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lmao

safe crystal
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Im a WHC main Sitgryn

feral verge
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i mained saltz in vt2

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mostly WP

lunar hollow
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luv me grail knight

feral verge
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i only got into vt2 last october

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before dt came out

lunar hollow
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2 separate people both try to kill the burster i was clearly gonna shove

safe crystal
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I will never get rid of this

strong thicket
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I am not a versed vt2 gamer but kruber is my jam. I use it when I wanna take a break from dt lol

safe crystal
strong thicket
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Cause map designs are goddamn AWESOME in that game

feral verge
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kaboom and the vet is gone

lunar hollow
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oh do u wanna see collective burster psychosis

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ALL 3 OF THEM WALK AT IT

feral verge
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vet blows up with plasma gun

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lmfao

lunar hollow
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bruh

strong thicket
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My video started buffering here. Look at his face KEKW_ogryn He knows

lunar hollow
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look at this lad

patent steeple
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btw, which is better to replace on a purge staff, terrifying barrage 3 or warp nexus 3?

lunar hollow
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terrifying barrage

feral verge
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10000% terrifying barrage

lunar hollow
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for flurry

feral verge
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it is useless

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staves already supress

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that blessing is like having no blessing at all

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useless. never uise it

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always take it off

safe crystal
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On purge, it only triggers on direct damage kills as well, making it even more shit