You mean Deimos? 
#psyker-class
chrome arch
meager plinth
Rifthaven Mk IIa Pyrocast Force Staff
Rifthaven Mk VI Shield Force Staff
Nomanus Mk XII Force Staff
plucky flax
There was some datamined 2 handed sword.
chrome arch
Pyrocast can be either this line kamehameha staff Sienna had, or that premium staff that made geysers
Both could be crazy
feral verge
Yeah, I hope new staves are the top priority in fatshark's new weapon content list
lunar hollow
Yeah, I hope new staves are the top priority in fatshark's new weapon content li...
sorry, shield needs another round of buffs (and a new mk)
feral verge
80% of psykers use staves. 4 isn't much to choose from
feral verge
Yeah that was a cornerstone in my main build
plucky flax
But didn't touch vet 
feral verge
My main build still fucks, but
crude cape
and burn dmg + slaughterer for zealot
feral verge
It will fuck a little bit less now
crude cape
makes no sense ya
vet is the strongest by a mile
and they take away a fun and cool gameplay/build/micro interaction
i guess it was powerful but like it wasnt game breaking
just makes no sense
plucky flax
Aye. It was fun to fire and forget.
crude cape
a well played vet still doubles everyones dmg and elites/specials killed
just casually
plucky flax
They could buff wildfire to make up for it.
crude cape
thats an exaggeration
plucky flax
But nah just straight nerf psyker.
crude cape
but it feels like it sometimes
crude cape
They could buff wildfire to make up for it.
it needs it ya
lunar hollow
a well played vet still doubles everyones dmg and elites/specials killed
give me a bolter and pub teammates and i will kill more elites/specials than the rest of them combined
lunar hollow
the power blessing interaction with DOT was always going to go. you could tell the moment they removed thrust canceling (which would affect dot damage)
chrome arch
If I cast AB whilst holding 25 flak weapon, does blaze still have 25 flak to it?
meager plinth
yep
plucky flax
Aye mane
crude cape
it was a bug lol
they say that, but it was in the game since launch and always worked like that. It could have easily been an cool intented interaction, if they decided to embrace it
the thrust fix was clearly a bug, one day it worked fine, the next it did too much dmg for like a a month.
this has been in the game forever, and maybe it was a bug but felt more like a mechanic...it feels like a nerf more than a bug fix
plucky flax
It was nerf
harsh urchin
they say that, but it was in the game since launch and always worked like that. ...
idk i dont think something being in the game since launch and always working like that is exempt from bugfix lol
lunar hollow
it did not feel like a mechanic. it was another interaction that wasn't explained anywhere and had no like reasonable explanation for why it worked
same thing as the hammer animation cancel, that was in the game "since launch" and still got fixed
plucky flax
Uh stuff die give you slaughterer stacks. 100% intended.
meager plinth
its like zealots being able to range armor-shred with their abilities
lunar hollow
its like zealots being able to range armor-shred with their abilities
that one is intended
plucky flax
Now slaughterer only gives stacks from melee kills. Rip slaughterer
meager plinth
that doesnt make sense but that one is a feature
harsh urchin
Now slaughterer only gives stacks from melee kills. Rip slaughterer
yeah go take slaughterer off all your weapons
meager plinth
its not like we'd ever know
crude cape
logically, you're doing dmg with a weapon with the blessing equipped. things are dying. It didn't feel like a bug to me when I realized it worked it felt like "oh thats a cool depth of interactions, makes sense" /shrug
i get they say it was a bug
but for all intents and purposes feels like a nerf lol
harsh urchin
crude cape
not a big deal, slaughterer etc are already OP, we didn't 'need' it, but it was fun
harsh urchin
yes shred is more op than slaught
lunar hollow
just you guys wait until the next weapon drop
plucky flax
Shred blaze illisi
meager plinth
I moved away from slaughterer and tbh im having more fun overall
plucky flax
It's too op everything burn
lunar hollow
there will be more stupid, bugged interactions that stay in the game for 3+ months
harsh urchin
I moved away from slaughterer and tbh im having more fun overall
see this is reasonable to say lol
slaught is op as fuck
and fun is subjective
meager plinth
killing everything is nice, but I like being able to actually fight shit and not just delete everything and ignore game mechanics
crude cape
i think i would have prefered a nerf to slaughterer dmg, but leaving/embracing dmg blessings working with dots, rather than leave slaughterer and nerf the interaction. Its just fun to have unique interactions like that that open up builds.
tbh we will probably get both tho, a lot of people think a slaughterer nerf is coming
harsh urchin
but saying "rip slaughterer" because they removed it from triggering off dot kills is just 
meager plinth
and im not struggling against anything with chainsword either
crude cape
i understand why a slaughterer nerf is needed,
but i really don't want to feel forced to reroll all my weapons if they overnerf it tho lol
just don't make my current rolls bad
harsh urchin
i understand why a slaughterer nerf is needed,
but i really don't want to feel ...
they probably wont overnerf it lol
see PS
lunar hollow
they're being slow with balance changes
harsh urchin
they'll nerf it probably to 20-25%, where it's still good
but reddit will still review bomb the game
harsh urchin
luckily not fatshark
crude cape
the game is better than the general consensus gives it credit for
but also the critisisms aren't wrong
harsh urchin
companies that nerf based on reddit end up with the most shit game ever
see: blizzard
crude cape
its in a weird spot, love this game all my friends ask me tho why i still play it
plucky flax
and im not struggling against anything with chainsword either
That's op man illisi could never clear those poxwalkers.
crude cape
and all i can say is "idk its fun, still addicted to the combat and chasing builds"
lunar hollow
people who bitch about the game normally have like 500 hours and continue to play it
meager plinth
we bitch about it cuz we love this game
harsh urchin
tbh i think the crafting system is dogshit, but it's much more engaging than vt
the fact that it actually takes more than like... a day to make a perfect weapon
meager plinth
like, when you find that one godroll weapon
harsh urchin
is both good and bad
meager plinth
and its YOURS
meager plinth
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH A SWORD THIS POWERFUL
lunar hollow
like, when you find that one godroll weapon
me randomly rolling a single deimos and getting damn near perfection instantly
harsh urchin
was that it literally took like... 10 minutes to craft the perfect weapon
meager plinth
just follow the guide
lunar hollow
its like walking up to excalibur, watching 20 people fail to pull it out the stone, and then kinda just doing it effortlessly the first try
its incredible
mwah
crude cape
the fact that it actually takes more than like... a day to make a perfect weapon
i gotta say, its ass in some ways but i also don't mind it
meager plinth
flex on the person who spent 39732948 days trying to make it
crude cape
i sort of genuinly enjoy having something to chase
thats not immediately easy to get
i know thats heresay, and "fuck gamba mechanics" etc
modern bronze
helo josho
lunar hollow
flex on the person who spent 39732948 days trying to make it
i spent a long time trying to get force swords
crude cape
maybe i don't mind bc ive played gacha games, liked lost ark, rolled gear in new world etc
lunar hollow
go away mittins u fucking STALKER
crude cape
im used to the mmo rng gear chase
lunar hollow
i spent a long time trying to get force swords
and then i just hardly play psyker for a month. come back. boom deimos
its awesome
modern bronze
man runs away about 30 centimeters
crude cape
but i don't HATE having a 3/4 blessing weapon and having that chase for the tier 4
harsh urchin
maybe i don't mind bc ive played gacha games, liked lost ark, rolled gear in new...
when did you quit lost ark btw
have you been following the drama recently
crude cape
when did you quit lost ark btw
god I was SO ADDICTED.
right after clown came out. It was a cool raid, we learned it. We cleared it the first week or two and then the whole group/static died and i stopped logging in
the dailies became too much
is the big thing
lunar hollow
the crafting system is just a bunch of layered RNG. you can choose which RNG you care about the most, or deal with it all, but at the end of the day you're a monkey on a typewriter mashing keys
crude cape
i was super min maxed too on clown
lunar hollow
and you're hoping to recreate the gettysburg address
harsh urchin
clown was SUPER fun lol
lunar hollow
and sometimes you randomly input it perfectly first try
and other times it takes a million attempts
harsh urchin
honestly valtan+vykas+clown was the most fun i've had in a while
and then the game just kinda fell off for me
meager plinth
and tbh I kinda like that sour milk's and brunt's shop suck so I dont feel like checking those everytime they reset
harsh urchin
the daily homework was too much
lyric burrow
I dont mind the crafting system in the sense that you generally need to work for a good weapon but its not implemented well
lunar hollow
i really don't understand why melk isn't just like, your custom weapons guy
lyric burrow
Melk either gives me garbage stuff or an insane weapon
lunar hollow
like why the fuck am i doing these contracts just for him to show me a bunch of shit that looks identical to all my bricked weapons from hadron
river garden
No in-between
crude cape
clown was SUPER fun lol
this was my deathblade on clown release, right before I quit (this was clown pre-prep build) I was pretty juiced. not whale level but i had like 1500+ hours and i wasn't a huge alt guy put a lot of time into my main.
lyric burrow
Just on a bad weapon
meager plinth
the t4 blessings are the only reason to buy stuff from milk
harsh urchin
yeah you did a good job on the horizontal LOL
lyric burrow
T4 slaughter still eludes me
river garden
Also, off topic, it turns out the flamer staff counts as soul blaze for feats. That's neat and I like it.
crude cape
sry for lost ark post, last one lol
harsh urchin
I see those dom/exper/end stats
meager plinth
purgatus applies soulblaze yea?
meager plinth
its the same status effect
harsh urchin
but yeah I think the game just...
became too much work
lol
the ratio of fun: homework
got lopsided
because you had to run so many raids every week
crude cape
yep
harsh urchin
and chaos dungeons and guardians every day
lyric burrow
I wanna go back and try vermintide it just doesn't feel as good as dt to me even if its still good
crude cape
i was super into my character, skins, advancement, min maxing
i played every day
and then one day just went cold turkey
harsh urchin
yep same
that's how I quit too
I got covid
didn't play games for 3 days
and then when I came back I just didnt feel like playing anymore
crude cape
and the break made you realize it was all a pointless grindf
you broke the habit
happens to me too
river garden
its the same status effect
Yeah. Learned that yesterday. Was pleasantly surprised
harsh urchin
i can not play darktide for a week
crude cape
sometimes when im addicted to an MMO and go on a trip for a week or something
i come back and find i don't care anymore
harsh urchin
and then play it and have fun
harsh urchin
but i gues that's the difference between games that are fun vs games that are homework
crude cape
once i 'break the habit' and stop logging in for a day or two, its like my brain realizes I was just addicted on a dopamine treadmill and im able to back away
harsh urchin
I've decided that I'm never gonna play games
that have dailies that are tied to progression again
I'm okay with dailies/weeklies; just not if they're tied to progression
crude cape
im even ok with them beinug tied to progression to an extent - as long as the time sink being asked is reasonable.
like a raid lockout weekly, is technically a weekly tied to progression
destiny is an example, its fun until its not i get burned out they do too much fomo
something less than destiny and what lost ark ask
is the sweet spot
harsh urchin
i have no desire to play destiny lol
the layers on monetization look awful to interact with
crude cape
i like it a lot, its a great game - but it has the same issue (maybe a little less so) than lost ark tho. Too much homework
ornate hamlet
Oh God, watching that screen reminded me of Neverwinter
crude cape
"ugh i have to log into destiny" "oh shit this BIS rolled gun is in the shop better go get it" "oh i didn't do my weekly seasonal stuff im gonna miss the end of season reward"
its all fomo
harsh urchin
Weeklies i mean
yep. but you can not play darktide for a week, and then come back and play a bunch
and you don't feel like you missed the week at all
crude cape
I played Neverwinter WAY back in the day,
but was too much of a noob to remember much
ornate hamlet
I want to play MMOs, but then I remember they're largely designed to be anti-player
harsh urchin
other games feel terrible
if you miss like a week's worth of dailies if they're tied to prog
lyric burrow
I dont think ive played many games like that
ornate hamlet
Darktide does have FOMO in the weeklies and cosmetic rotation
lyric burrow
Diablo seasons is the closest ive come
crude cape
Darktide does have FOMO in the weeklies and cosmetic rotation
ya absolutely especially before brunt armory
ornate hamlet
It's less egregious than other titles, but it's a paid game doing that
crude cape
the desire to log in every hour and see if that weapon/blessing you can't find to even try the weapon at all is in the shop
harsh urchin
i dont mind fomo lol
crude cape
was so annoying
lyric burrow
I just check melk now idk the last time i checked the regular shop
crude cape
same
i sometimes look at it
if im hunting a blessing
somietimes you get lucky on a blue
harsh urchin
ye sometimes i look at regular shop but i dont ever go out of my way to look at it lol
crude cape
but mostly if i dont have -any- version of the blessing yet and will take even a III
ornate hamlet
Like, I don't really regret the money I spent on Destiny 2 because the game has really fun combat and that's most of what you do
lyric burrow
Im trying to get a good version of every weapon in the game so ill brunts
Thats kinda it
ornate hamlet
But holy shit, looking at the rest of it does make me regret it
Bought Beyond Light, got the cool ice powers, found out the progression is locked behind weekly bullshit
crude cape
Like, I don't really regret the money I spent on Destiny 2 because the game has ...
its the same issue as lost ark, its a great game and a fun experience. but keeping up with it is tedious.
More than lost ark tho ill go back to destiny in future seaosns and mess around, i usually play the new raid. Its not as bad as lost ark
I just don't grind it all year through the seasons. I play for a month every big release and put it down
ornate hamlet
Story was aggressively okay, but in general it enhanced my combat in the game
Yet Bungie isn't content with just making good stuff for people to appreciate
They need to milk people and treat players as cash cows
I'm sure if one of those players was standing in front of them with a baseball bat on the hand, they'd change their view of that person real quick
Wow, suddenly the cash cow has a mind of its own, a body, a personality, likes and dislikes, hopes and dreads
harsh urchin
tbh I don't mind them monetizing stuff
but the problem is that
if the monetization gets in the way of having fun
i'm just gonna stop
lmao
ornate hamlet
It's like the player is also a human being
plucky flax
Btw sterling I recognise your profile pic.
ornate hamlet
🤝
plucky flax
lyric burrow
Yeah who has that lmfao
plucky flax
Busted
ornate hamlet
if the monetization gets in the way of having fun
Yeah, that's basically the mentality I take towards game design
When I complain about games being too grindy there's a lot of "oh, so you want everything handed to you, you're lazy, if you hate grind then stop playing the genre"
Like... I just want the game to not be grindy
ornate hamlet
People think too black and white on that shit
harsh urchin
i dont mind games being grindy in that way
but when a game is either grind or PAY to skip grind
i'd rather just skip the game lol
ornate hamlet
I think it needs to have purpose and fun
harsh urchin
because then they're incentivized to make the grind as shitty as possible
ornate hamlet
If your game is grindy, it needs to have a point to that grind and to have the player, at a bare minimum, not dislike going through it
harsh urchin
whereas if you can't pay to skip grind; they generally try to make the grind somewhat enjoyable or fulfilling
yep
if you can pay to skip it
lyric burrow
whereas if you can't pay to skip grind; they generally try to make the grind som...
Ideally lol
harsh urchin
the dev is incentivized to make the game AS INCONVENIENT as possible
and at that point i'll just be like fuck it
ornate hamlet
If the player reaches the end of the grind for the thing they want and says "holy shit, finally I can stop playing this part", there's a problem
harsh urchin
yep
ornate hamlet
It was how I felt with Warframe and it felt like the content they put out was basically farm and fuck off
harsh urchin
because if the grind is independent of the monetization, they'll still try to make the grind fun
since that's most of how the player interacts with the game system
ornate hamlet
Now games like Darktide and Vermintide, despite the repetition, I play for playing and getting materials/currency is secondary
I farm plasteel as a consequence of playing damnation, I don't play damnation to farm plasteel
harsh urchin
but IMO that's the problem with stuff like overwatch
the core focus of the dev team is no longer "making a fun game"
lyric burrow
They didnt even finish part of the game people were looking forward too
harsh urchin
i was reading
that the new support hero
has a 0.3% pick rate
the reasoning is that they're locked into 9 week seasons and have to keep pumping out the new heroes
and they don't have time to fine-tune it and make them fun
so now they're no longer designing the monetization around the game
they're designing the game around the monetization
lyric burrow
Yeah thats pretty gross
Id kinda lose hope for a game like that and im still clinging onto hope for DT
timid valve
Hello everyone. Quick question; ideal dump stat on a surge staff?
harsh urchin
everythign
lyric burrow
I think thats a staff that doesnt really have one
Iirc
Even quell speed can be important
harsh urchin
I think DT should be fine
most of the changes are in the correct direction
they're just slow as fuck
lyric burrow
Thats where im at
But even im starting to run out of stuff to do that isnt just playing
Not that ive played 1k hours
crude cape
Hello everyone. Quick question; ideal dump stat on a surge staff?
i believe its actually dmg
preferably you just want 70+ in everything if possible
lyric burrow
But i find im getting frustrated with the stuff i die to and kinda tired of a lot of weapons
crude cape
but i heard if you have a dump of dmg in the 60's or w/e, its not actually a big difference. Since the staff doesn't do great dmg anyway
lyric burrow
But i was playing a ton for a while
Like 80 hours a week at my peak and then closer to 50 after that
Only recently did it go down to below 30
So it makes sense
timid valve
Cool! Makes sense. Thanks for the help!
lyric burrow
Blessings are flurry nexus
harsh urchin
if you like shooters
harsh urchin
i think that game is very very underrated
lyric burrow
Darktide is funny enough the only shooter ive been this into other than borderlands
I played siege for a good 1k hours before dropping it but since then DT and BL have been the only shooters to get my attention
Moved to fighting games
harsh urchin
ye I recommend div2 then
play through the story and see if the core gameplay is fun enough for you to delve into endgame
lyric burrow
Yeah i can look into it
harsh urchin
tldr it's 3rd person shooter that has gadgets
lyric burrow
I remember it got flak on release havent heard much since
harsh urchin
so you are a dude with a gun
but you can use turrets, drones, sticky bombs, emp etc
which you can customize
and there's decent build diversity
gun builds: shotgun, sniper, assault rifle, etc
skill builds: fire damage over time, turret/drone, etc
lyric burrow
Ok sounds neat
worn canopy
I only use sibling if any.
lyric burrow
Ill say sibling if someone else says it
Maybe say big man/brute if the ogryn is rping
hidden crystal
I'm no good at feminine French accents.
ornate hamlet
I wish I was
hidden crystal
I should program up my autochat with some lengthy rambling about the Enforcers and Atoman culture.
"You should have seen Atoma during its annual fertility festival. Gleaming towers as far as the eye could see."
pine relic
ornate hamlet
qUitE UnPaRaLleLed
pine relic
I kind of feel our vets were using that stupid camouflage otherwise I wouldn't have two mutants and a dog coming at me every ten seconds
hidden crystal
I kind of feel our vets were using that stupid camouflage otherwise I wouldn't h...
The loadout monitor mods are good to be forewarned about that.
pine relic
Even if I knew, I couldn't change anything.
hidden crystal
The one to watch out for is #4 trait, which is 3 if it's camo.
hidden crystal
Even if I knew, I couldn't change anything.
I try to be more careful about my angles if I know I'm going to be picking up extra aggro.
Or, if we're still in the loadout, I run away if I'm with three camo vets.
pine relic
then they are trolling themselves.
cosmic sigil
I'm no good at feminine French accents.
Akshually the VA is British not French.
hard quest
Eyo, is this part of the standard ui cause I've never seen this breakdown on my missions
willow hazel
its the scoreboard mod
hard quest
Ah alright, I'll have to look into how to mod the game cause I've heard that there's a lot of them and some quite useful.
Weird that you'd need one since you had it by default in Vermintide 2, no? :>
Anyway thanks
burnt maple
I wish I could change the voice on my characters. If anything just to switch it up, but also because mine won't stop talking about the Lex Atoma.
cosmic sigil
cosmic sigil
I wish I could change the voice on my characters. If anything just to switch it ...
My vet voice. One of the reason I decided to make a zealot...
burnt maple
Lol I feel ya
hard quest
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11cod2i/guide_how_to_install_mods_in_...
Cheerio 
pine relic
My vet voice. One of the reason I decided to make a zealot...
Let me guess, you picked the Cadia vet
meager plinth
You are falling apart before the end, just like cadia
meager plinth
common trauma response W
ornate hamlet
literally that vet when the possibility singing
old oyster
west smelt
I HAVE COME TO DESTROY YOU
keen vale
There, Psyker all leveled up. Now on to the Sharpshooter! 🤪
In the end I found my vocation into stunlocking foes with the surge staff.
feral verge
In the end I found my vocation into stunlocking foes with the surge staff.
if you ever go back to psyker and continue to use surge staff
make sure you only use it on elite groups/specials and the occasional shooter group
dont use it on trash mobs
dont use it on the horde
dont use it on bosses
with surge staff, you should be in melee 80-90% of the time
ornate hamlet
Spam the funny ball
dawn crypt
u use it on crushers and bulwarks
keen vale
What would be bad about zapping trash mobs?
feral verge
Spam the funny ball <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
yes, to a point
sometimes it's better to kill/stun them with BB
cosmic sigil
What would be bad about zapping trash mobs?
It does nothing
feral verge
it varies on the situation
feral verge
What would be bad about zapping trash mobs?
like keet says, it does nothing
cosmic sigil
Illisi take care of 99% of your problems
feral verge
it does almost no damage, trash mobs are not threatening enough to stun. it's better to just kill them outright
plus, most importantly
surge staff only stuns 7 or 8 enemies
that's it
cosmic sigil
Surge is a cc tool mostly
feral verge
so if you have a horde of idk 80 trash enemies, and you only stun 7 of them
you are being useless
keen vale
Welp, guess I'm useless.
feral verge
you can change that by meleeing the horde
cosmic sigil
You could cleave 20 of them with the illisi
feral verge
it's a very, very common mistake that i see even veteran psyker players making
so dont feel bad
my tune would change if surge staff could stun idk 20-30 enemies
then that would warrant potentially using it on the horde, depending on the situation
another thing about surge, is that the enemies it stuns are random
mossy surge
plus its not aim based, it takes the closest in a cone formation
feral verge
so if you hav e a horde that's mixed with elites, you may be better off bb the elites individually, or thinning out horde with melee
meager plinth
^ this is very strong if you use wrack n ruin
teal needle
If you've got illisi it cleaves so well you have a better shot of staggering elites with it than surge 😛
feral verge
yet another thing i can mention about surge, is to not to use it to necessarily kill enemies
it's (not always) usually faster/better to whip out surge, stun the elite(s)/special
then kill them with melee or bb
usually it's not in you, or your teams best interest for oyu to cast surge for 30 mins trying to kill 1 rager or something
and again, yet another thing i can mention is muties
sometimes muties like to ignore the surge stun
sometimes, you dont want to stun the mutie. look at your team comp, and check to see if you have a zealot with thammer
if you see a mutie barreling towards the zealot, who's clearly ready/waiting for the mutie, do not stun it
let the mutie run into the zealot, and the zealot should kill it instanly (if they have a modicum of skill)
if oyu stun a mutie while a thammer zealot is ready/trying to kill it, you just fuck up the kill for the zealot
who now has to run forward to kill the stunned mutie
it fucks up the timing
teal needle
Okay, let's say I wanted to play gunker for giggles with a shredder autopistol. How important is mobility on the gun?
Cuz I've got one that's great in every stat except it's 50% mobility 🤣
harsh urchin
should be fine
meager plinth
shouldnt have any issue
brave flame
how do i quell peril on controller?
ornate hamlet
Probably the reload button
lyric burrow
ran illisi blazing spirit build and still got 1k kills think its meta guys
(illisi is fair and balanced)
id be sad if it got nerfed just cause its fun but i would totally understand if they nerfed the special or somethign
cosmic sigil
Blazing spirit and shred or bloodthirsty?
lyric burrow
Blood
wheat quartz
Illisi is love, Illisi is life
lyric burrow
I do want to make a non slaughterer build one day thats actually fun and unique
I dont even notice im running blazing blood thirsty
Might as well be an illisi with 2 perks
dark cipher
Ranged weakspot dmg is trash on surge staff right?
meager plinth
Weak spot damage is trash for everything rn
It increases the additional damage given by a crit by 10% max
So on a hit that normally does 100 and 110 on a crit
It would equal 111 damage
dark cipher
how do i take a screenshot
i have a staff that has one bad perk and the possibility to roll for a good one
meager plinth
On windows?
dark cipher
yes
meager plinth
Ctrl + PrntScrn
dark cipher
look this one i can try to roll for a flak or maniac tier 4
put warp furry tier 4 on it too no?
or this one?
lower base dmg though
cosmic sigil
Critical bonus is kinda low on the second
cosmic sigil
Base damage is not a problem 78 vs 79 is nothing
So I would put flurry on the first and reroll WP to flak
dark cipher
the first one is 374 other is 368 does it matter?
cosmic sigil
No
dark cipher
ok ok cool
cosmic sigil
Lemme show you
dark cipher
show me
dark cipher
ok ima roll for flak
put flurry also
i wish they would just take the darn locks off...
cosmic sigil
Same same...
meager plinth
safe crystal
Its a good staff, the main problem being its surge. Its not designed to deal damage, as depressing as that sounds. In the most optimal scenario, you use your melee 90% of the match and only surge high value threats, such as crusher packs, in extremely tense situations
safe crystal
The blessings are complete ass on most staves 
dark cipher
whats another good staff?
safe crystal
Its either it doesnt work or doesnt do much
dark cipher
srry i just started on psyker grind
safe crystal
Trauma/purgatus is what people would say are the 'meta' staves
I personally like voidstrike just because it makes a big boom
But it has problems as well
dark cipher
void strike is the ball one no?
safe crystal
Yes
dark cipher
ok i like that one too
safe crystal
Very easy to roll a good one, since most stats dont matter
dark cipher
dont really like the circle one or flame one
safe crystal
Trauma needs a really high roll and purgatus is very boring, at least in my opinion. Its still a very strong weapon
dark cipher
srry dont know the real name
burnt maple
the only stat that matters on a Purgatus (the flamethrower staff) is the Burn stat, you want it at 76% for maximum soulfire stacks
even then, it's not like one with lower won't work just fine
dark cipher
safe crystal
High cloud/warp res would be desirable as well, but i havent used one in months, so i could just be wrong on purgatus
solar fossil
whats the differences between the force swords
burnt maple
they're helpful, the higher the better, but almost nothing really matters on a purg staff that will make not good
meager plinth
Cloud/warp res/burn are the desired modifiers for purg
dark cipher
purgatus is the flame one im assuming?
burnt maple
Illisi is horde clearer, deimos is a high single target sword, and obscuris i gues is supposed to be in the middle? no idea, never used one
meager plinth
whats the differences between the force swords
Illisi is a powerhouse for everything, it has no downsides
Deimos is made for single target and agility
Obscurus is genuinely worst compared to the other two
safe crystal
whats the differences between the force swords
Illisi has a very strong horde clear with both light and special heavy spam. Deimos has very strong single target pokes, notably the L1/H2, which outdamages the weapon special. Obscurus is a worse Deimos
burnt maple
but that doesn't mean that they can't do the other thing decently enough
cosmic sigil
I would have kept specialist... 10 wp dmg is a dead perk...
solar fossil
Illisi has a very strong horde clear with both light and special heavy spam. Dei...
do they all have the same special
solar ocean
Okay so I need an opinion on this. Should I slap the Brittleness blessing or Warp Flurry on this to replace Terrifying Barrage?
safe crystal
do they all have the same special
Illisi has one that enhances its cleave. Obscurus and Deimos have the same
burnt maple
only their attack pattern is different, but yes they all have the same Warp power up
cosmic sigil
i though you said to get rid of it
Ah sorry. Nw it won't really change anything
solar ocean
I'm not entirely sure how impactful Brittleness is on trauma staff but I know I almost have it pretty much perfected
burnt maple
if you're team needs a way to handle crushers, it's amazing
solar ocean
Save for some iffy perks but oh well
burnt maple
if your team has a bolter zealout or vet, it's still pretty good
solar ocean
I fucking HATE crushers and ogryn in general. Would brittleness help kill them faster?
(Not our ogryn, I love them <3)
cosmic sigil
Yes
safe crystal
Brittleness doesnt help trauma itself that much, since explosions deal full damage to most targets. It helps your team immensely against armoured targets
burnt maple
yes
cosmic sigil
It's useful
burnt maple
brittleness removes their armor to basically unarmored? there's a graph somewhere, it's huge, though
meager plinth
Nope not at all
meager plinth
There are guides that can explain it better than me tho
safe crystal
I accidentally walked into the zealot channel and almost got hanged
You mean psyker chat #2?
solar ocean
You mean psyker chat #2?
No, the zealot channel in classes lmao
safe crystal
Yeah, thats the one
solar ocean
I'm sleep deprived and accidentally posted there first
safe crystal
Its named wrong
cosmic sigil
Zealot is kinda generalist
solar ocean
I FORGOR
cosmic sigil
We all have 2 or 3 characters
safe crystal
Anything but vet
meager plinth
solar ocean
My order was Vet>Psyker>Ogryn>Zealot
cosmic sigil
I use my vet when I'm mad I want to obliterate stuff with the bolter
safe crystal
I absolutely hate playing anything but plasma vet, at least its unique enough and its harder to abuse UF
Whenever i play vet, that is
solar ocean
I like shotgun vet or autogun vet
Or stubber <3
Big, meaty GUNS
Bolter makes it too easy
burnt maple
Ogyrn -> vet -> psyker -> zealot and now i only play Ogryn and Psyker
all the classes are fun but vet and zealot didnt appeal to me
cosmic sigil
Vet > Zealot > Gunpsyker
solar ocean
I'm slowly getting into Zealot just because of the flamer and hammer plays I've seen
solar ocean
Okay so I need an opinion on this. Should I slap the Brittleness blessing or War...
Also for this, should I reroll the infested damage into flak armor, unarmored or carapace?
Not sure if I wanna go overboard on it being a can opener
safe crystal
If you want the safe option, put a flurry on that
If you want a spicy option, put it on a shelf until you've got the hang of quell canceling, and replace TB with blazing spirit
solar ocean
If you want the safe option, put a flurry on that
I already put on the Brittleness, I meant the perks
safe crystal
And critical damage is basically a dead perk, replace that
solar ocean
Ahh, gotcha
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448>
nice force sword, pipe feller
spice veldt
brittleness removes their armor to basically unarmored? there's a graph somewher...
zealot's ult is the one that makes your weapon use its flak modifiers on carapace and unarmoured modifiers on flak, which is a separate mechanic from rending/brittleness #psyker-class message
cosmic sigil
No
If you want to do more DMG to carapace you need the DMG perk
It does only reduce the DR from cara to flak
spice veldt
my understanding is that it makes you use the flak armour mods for carapace and unarmoured armour mods for flak, and that it still uses the +carapace/flak perks appropriately
spice veldt
bad phrasing out of me, since i wanted to avoid shoving in "armour" to avoid making "unarmoured armour modifiers" look weird
modern bronze
Ur weird
spice veldt
i dont want to hear that from a cat in a suit
untold meteor
I take 3 weeks off the game for irl shit
come back to craft on a whim
thanks Hadron
meager plinth
Be careful you used your luck for the next 3 months 
ember hornet
i dont want to hear that from a cat in a suit
what about a cat in a sombrero 
spice veldt
i don't want to hear it from a cat wearing a sombrero
ember hornet
smh my head
lunar hollow
i don't want to hear it from a cat wearing a sombrero
do u want to hear it from me
ornate hamlet
no honestly
lunar hollow
didnt ask u
spice veldt
😳
meager plinth
upbeat schooner
this is not an answer u bottom
you're a bottom
lunar hollow
slander
lunar hollow
shut up
plucky flax
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096872063882510376/1124964356656996392/i...
Go maniac for deimos. I think maniac carapace are best combo for perks.
untold meteor
H2 can one shot a mutant with any combination of slaughterer/unstable power/warp unleashed (assuming 6 charges)
without maniacs
plucky flax
I never run warp battery 
Beside I actually prefer to special heavy mutie then finish it off with a quick light 1 if required.
untold meteor
I don't like getting stuck
and even if I don't one shot
doing 90%+ of its health in one stab + any teammate's damage on it = dead as it is
plucky flax
Fair.
spice veldt
back when i used the obscurus, i liked to two-shot muties with the special-light
but yeah it seems that headshotting muties with the deimos h2 is the way nowadays
untold meteor
it's quite comical poking crushers to death with H2
plucky flax
I'm not good enough for that. 
untold meteor
tight saddle
what's the dps difference between qq cancel L1 on Deimos and L1H2 combo? is the difference significant or not really?
untold meteor
H2 is so far and beyond in damage it’s not worth qq on Deimos
spice veldt
the base damage itself isn't that far apart since the h2 is only about 2x more damage than l1
it's really just the armour mods and slow firerate high damage weapons being more easier to use in practice
aka l1 having shit armour mods against maniac
yeah h2 only deals 1.875x damage of the l1
since force sword sweeping heavies don't really do all that much damage than sweeping lights
e.g., sweeping heavies are only 1.5x more damage than sweeping lights
sacred wolf
What 2 blessings do peeps like to use for the purgatus? I figure its warp flurry and some other one but I can never decide on the other blessing.
what i got so far bb's
spice veldt
warp nexus is generally the other one, since crits apply two stacks of soulblaze instead of one
feral verge
what i got so far bb's
Terrifying barrage is effectively useless, unfortunately
Staff already suppress enemies so, it's like not having a blessing at all
sacred wolf
Terrifying barrage is effectively useless, unfortunately
Yaaaa this has been the only above 370 grey - legendary purgatus staff I have been able to consecrate up so far.
I'll def try out that warp nexus though, so I appreciate the feedback bois.
royal birch
Yaaaa this has been the only above 370 grey - legendary purgatus staff I have be...
you might want to try to get the staff with maxed (80%) burn and cloud radius + as high as possible quell speed. The least important stat is damage on purgatus as it doesn't really change the damage there anyway.
So the stat priority is - burn > cloud > quell > warp res > damage - on that staff
Blessings, warp flurry and either warp nexus or the one that lets you burn uninterrupted (t2 only blessing which name I can't remember now)
left basin
what's the perk importance gradient on voidstrike
mild lotus
Long time I haven't come here, what's new in the immaterium?
left basin
i've been rolling the surge since december but i fucking forgot to change my staff's perks
left basin
Long time I haven't come here, what's new in the immaterium?
absolutely zero
lyric burrow
what's the perk importance gradient on voidstrike
Id just run flak unarmored
mild lotus
Psyker is still the most disapointing character?
lyric burrow
Itll make it so you dont have to worry about flak and whatnot in a horde and helps with shooters
mild lotus
What about the new force sword?
lyric burrow
Maniac damage is too low to be worth using
left basin
Psyker is still the most disapointing character?
absolutely not
mild lotus
Then there IS something new
left basin
they changed a bunch and it actually feels rewarding to go full edging
idk how long you've been out
mild lotus
Launch
spice veldt
mild lotus
I stopped just before they brought the possibility to fiddle with perks on weapons
mild lotus
Awooga
left basin
couple maps bunch of weapons a bunch of class adjustments
mild lotus
I guess I'll be making my return soon then.
spice veldt
psyker still has the same 4 force staffs which is disappointing if you were itching for a single-target burst DPS force staff
mild lotus
As long as psyker isn't a stun bot anymore, I'm happy
left basin
psyker still has the same 4 force staffs which is disappointing if you were itch...
voidstrike surgecrit godroll is up there
spice veldt
even with that, voidstrike is not coming close to the DPS of a gun
left basin
As long as psyker isn't a stun bot anymore, I'm happy
most of the people play like it but they don't live on the EDGGGE
mild lotus
Stun staff gameplay is a snoozefest
left basin
dunno i like removing corridors of people
mild lotus
psyker mains will never know the glory of the ripper gun
The smg?
spice veldt
if you looked at the vet's power sword and thought you wanted that, then the illisi's force sword is that
lunar hollow
Stun staff gameplay is a snoozefest
spam surge on horde. let your team carry you. repeat
spice veldt
dunno i like removing corridors of people
sure, but that's not single-target DPS
spice veldt
voidstrike has the advantage of cleave and no damage falloff on each successive target hit
lunar hollow
(best gun in the game)
mild lotus
I leave the big boy toys to the big boys
spice veldt
the problem arises when enemies can have >6 hitmass, causing your voidstrike to just get eaten by a single enemy; which completely eliminates the cleave distribution advantage it has
mild lotus
Voidstrike has always felt very good since launch, at least there's that.
lunar hollow
voidstrike would be cool as FUCK if it had a blessing like shock n awe but it procced on headshot
spice veldt
too bad they gave it to one of the worst weapons to ever make use of that blessing
left basin
at least it has sustained fire 🙂
mild lotus
Skewering an entire horde signgle handedly with voidstrike feels almost sexual
spice veldt
voidstrike has range and suppression, but that advantage has been meh once players got accustomed to the movement system
left basin
they fucked up the fucked up audio on voidstrike
spice veldt
what did they fuck up on the fucked up audio
left basin
it was cracky
mild lotus
they fucked up the fucked up audio on voidstrike
They killed the krrkrkkrkrkrrrrkk sound?
left basin
when you hit a 100% headshot into a crowd you'd have this
KRKRKRKRKRKRKRKkRRKKRKRKR
yeah it's way less pronounced
chrome arch
They killed the krrkrkkrkrkrrrrkk sound?
Wait it no longer krkrkrkrkrrgh thru the horde?
mild lotus
Guess so
chrome arch
K
left basin
before it'd drown out the sounds for me
when i rolled a really good surge before the sound patch it was deafening
chrome arch
They literally "buffed" brain burst KRKRGGH sound not so long ago
mild lotus
They boosted the CRRRRUNK?
chrome arch
Yes was in patch notes few Updates ago
left basin
I felt like a hippo rolling through a bubble wrap pile
mild lotus
I saw it more as a someone sitting on a pack of crackers
left basin
someone probably got hearing damage from it
mild lotus
Lucky them, they probably had a godlike shot
So, what's the new sword do that the older one doesn't?
spice veldt
illisi has the same special as the vet's power sword
deimos has the same special has the obscurus, but it has an actually good light combo; the light stab is the 1st attack instead of being tucked away as the 3rd light, and the 2nd heavy is also a stab with bonus damage
mild lotus
The stab has always been slept on from my experience when it is actually a very good attack
I included it in my usual combo
spice veldt
the stab is good, but on the obscurus, you have to either perform the 2nd light (which is an uppercut) or 2nd heavy (which has some endlag)
and you could rarely ever make use of the stab purposefully due to it being the 3rd attack
mild lotus
The 2nd light of the obscurus has a bit of a cleave angle
spice veldt
the 2nd light is pretty much a straight uppercut
and lights only have 2 cleave
force swords have low base damage but high weakspot damage, so if you can't hit weakspots, your damage output is strongly neutered
poxhounds were pretty much the only enemy that you could hit the weakspot of without doing any camera fuckery
mild lotus
My goto combo was 1st heavy, 2nd light, 3rd light(the stab), repeat
Worked pretty well
And of course, the special when in need of some big boi removal.
spice veldt
i did l1->h2 for hordeclear, light combo for poxhounds, and l1>h2>l3 whenever I needed to build slaughterer stacks or for single-target
spice veldt
probably yeah
mild lotus
I forgor
spice veldt
1st light is the overhead diagonal, 2nd heavy is also a diagonal
the 2nd light is the one that's like a vertical uppercut
and the 1st heavy is a vertical overhead
mild lotus
Then yeah, it was light into heavy into poke your nose out
mild lotus
I like any concept of warp powered sword tbh.
lyric burrow
Deimos is more about stabs but its far stronger than obscurus
It can one shot mutants and whatnot
Illisi is more of the horde clear one although it too is capable of destroying elites
Mostly cause blessings are broken
spice veldt
more-or-less because of its special and stagger
and having enough base cleave to cleave through two melee human-sized elites (ragers/maulers)
most skillful gameplay right there
lunar hollow
u dont mean that
lunar hollow
❤️
mild lotus
The obscurus could already one shot maulers and ragers afaik
lunar hollow
the obscurus could 1 shot anything that isnt a boss with slaughterer stacks
spice veldt
it could one-shot flak ragers but not dreg ragers without more buffs
same for maulers, which despite having a flak body, have a fairly health pool and don't have a flak weakspot
lyric burrow
It def couldnt one shot mutants
mild lotus
A special heavy into a mauler's knee was a one shot if I remember right
spice veldt
not on damnation at least without buffs
mild lotus
With some buffs
spice veldt
in my case, i needed at least 1 slaughter stack and crits to one-shot maulers with a special-light
prob don't need as much for special-heavies, but I never really special-heavied
lunar hollow
rip old bloodthirsty
mild lotus
Slaughtere, edging peril etc..
safe crystal
Special heavy is 1857 damage if you have +flak perk, to a maulers body
mild lotus
I did have that
spice veldt
oh right +flak
i did not run +flak on my obscurus (well, I didn't win the lottery to get +flak)
safe crystal
Roll better 4head
spice veldt
🥺
mild lotus
Skill issue
mild lotus
No rashun for you
Are the achievements still stupidly difficult and borderline game breaking to reach?
Looking at malleum monstronum that I somehow maged to get in pub play.
spice veldt
they've nerfed some penances like pick n' mix (4 elites killed continuously instead of 5) and the kill-your-self-and-explode one (1 enemy killed instead of 3 at the same time)
you can only get malleum monstronum in private games now
mild lotus
Built different
spice veldt
they also moved those penances to the "Redacted" category, remarking within the patch notes that these penances were admittedly gimmicky
all classes also have a new set of penances that are less of a pain in the ass
mild lotus
Gimmicky? No way...
Finishing an entire mission with 100% accuracy and no ammo left at the end surely isn't something overly specific and that doesn't get in the way of gameplay itself
safe crystal
or somehow killing yourself and three elites at the same time
This was, for some reason, easier for me than the ledge 20 people one
Or whatever the crazy number used to be
lunar hollow
or somehow killing yourself and three elites at the same time
i did that shit on malice lmfao
just found 3 shotgunners, stroked my illisi till it burst, and kapow
first try
mild lotus
I hope you can still revive people using the skill that allows force swords to block shots.
spice veldt
the deflector blessing no longer blocks ranged attacks when reviving unfortunately
mild lotus
It's over
mild lotus
Indeed, the game at launch was pretty underwhelming in a lot of regards.
mental rock
you shouldve seen the beta then 
steel flame
But did you live it
mild lotus
Then they broke its legs
mild lotus
But did you live it
My middle name is beta
steel flame
I miss deflector being baked into the force sword at launch
mental rock
born in it, molded by it?
mild lotus
I am the incarnation of beta
steel flame
And then again when they launched illi and diemos when they released them with launch code by accident
mild lotus
None of my features work and I look rough around the edges.
Only a select few systems can support me, as well.
hidden crystal
the deflector blessing no longer blocks ranged attacks when reviving unfortunate...
I have to admit, with just how much block psykers can stack, blocking ranged too basically adds up to a near-uninterruptible revive.
ornate hamlet
I wonder what would happen if deflector was a psyker feat instead
Just seeing that dude parrying bullets with a saber or a knife
hidden crystal
Between my stamina curio and kinetic deflection, it's a pretty viable tactic to revive people by using my ult to knock over the horde so I can get in, then just let their attacks bounce off my block after they recover.
south zephyr
Time to burn some shit
hidden crystal
I think I'd actually have a really hard time swapping to another class.
ornate hamlet
Eh, it's not too bad even for the others
hidden crystal
Because I'm so used to some of the stuff you can do with the psyker ult.
ornate hamlet
With like 2 block efficiency perks you can already set up a nice revive
harsh urchin
block eff is real ass lol
if you wanna go the block route
better to get rezz speed and +3 stam
ornate hamlet
But that +3 stamina takes a curio slot that could go for health or toughness
harsh urchin
but it makes a big difference
hidden crystal
Yeeting pox hounds off of your team mates from the other side of a wall is a wonderful trick.
harsh urchin
whereas block efficiency does nothing
you can test and see how little block eff does in this game
compared to vermintide for example
hidden crystal
But that +3 stamina takes a curio slot that could go for health or toughness
Well, the other thing I like +Stamina for is all the push attacks.
harsh urchin
in this game block eff numbers are smaller AND they're multiplicative
ornate hamlet
The magic of psyker is that their stamina regen delay is so good, they can work with just stamina regen perks
harsh urchin
the other thing is that if you use KD
the amount of peril used is based on your max stamina
ornate hamlet
But block efficiency affects KD too
near wyvern
9 stamina is the way to meme
harsh urchin
it does, but block eff is bad
near wyvern
harsh urchin
the numbers are low and the mechanics are multiplicative
hidden crystal
The magic of psyker is that their stamina regen delay is so good, they can work ...
In theory...?
But I've had enough situations where being able to sidestep and fist pump several times in rapid succession has been a useful way to stun a large horde for a few seconds and buy a bit of time.
south zephyr
In *theory*...?
But I've had enough situations where being able to sidestep and...
The imaginary stress ball only the psyker can see
ornate hamlet
In *theory*...?
But I've had enough situations where being able to sidestep and...
No theory, I do it regularly with dueling sword
It has 2 whole units of stamina
mild lotus
2 more than needed
hidden crystal
There was a fun game where the team vet managed to clutch it against a plague ogryn (we'd all been knocked off the bridge of fools), but had to rush to rescue us once a horde turned up. I never did ask him whether he'd deliberately picked me as the first rescue, but I was able to keep the horde stunlocked pretty efficiently to give him enough time to get the other two up. (At which point I had to worry less about him being interrupted and could actually start massacring them all).
lyric burrow
Ive been trying +3 stam it can be nice
west nacelle
new melee only psyker subclass lookin GOOD by the emperor
tbh the force sword needs a buff both the special attack and the push make A FUCK TON of peral for the psyker and don't even do that much damage in the first place
harsh urchin
level 13 takes
spice veldt
the push-attack is a strong single-target stagger
it's not offensive and it generates peril, but it has its use even if it's a bit niche
cloud star
tbh the force sword needs a buff both the special attack and the push make A FUC...
How much damage should pushing someone do?
west nacelle
How much damage should pushing someone do?
let me rephrase: the attack where you use LITERAL hell energy to charge A BIG ASS SWORD is weak as shit and gives you WAY to much peral and the push also gives you WAY to much peral
meager plinth
Which sword?
wet belfry
There is a stat called warp resistance on the force swords.
Warp resistance dicatates how much peril it generates from specials.
You are currently low level and have a low warp resistance, which gives alot of peril.
burnt maple
Yeah, these are problems of being low level/not having all your feats, and using crap gear.
spice veldt
and presumably using the obscurus
burnt maple
All of us can be a melee psyker and do just fine with our normal set up sword and ranged weapon. Pskynetic Psyker is about versatility. Maybe later they'll add like a Hexblade Warlock melee oriented psyker, but don't hold your breath
Our warp attack and 30 with the right combo of blessings/sword quality/feats can one shot Damnation Mutants and handle crushers with ease
west nacelle
tbh one of the problems i actually have with the psyker is the fact that the "grenade" takes so long to charge up and isn't really all that good imo
spice veldt
BB is a utility weapon, so that tracks
burnt maple
Use Kinectic Barrage, the level 30 feat
west nacelle
the lack of weapons is also pretty sad
lunar hollow
the monkey's paw is going to curl one of these days and all the new force staff variants will be subclass exclusive
burnt maple
The new variants will come with pre-red locked perks 
What level does the Deimos and Illisi unlock?
Whatever it is, grab one of each and it'll be night and day vs a Maccabian Dueling Sword you've got on
hidden crystal
let me rephrase: the attack where you use LITERAL hell energy to charge A BIG AS...
The regular push is zero peril (and really quite amazing, if you have enough Stamina to spam it a bit - you can heavily stagger a large chunk of a horde. The push-attack is... like 4% of peril (perhaps depending on your stats), and - while a bit niche - seriously useful at times.
I think the only things it won't stagger are Bulwarks if you hit their shield (booo!), Mutants and Monstrosities.
It will however, on any difficulty, heavy stagger a Crusher.
The Illisi isn't great at dealing with tougher targets, but shoving them to the floor can buy you quite a lot more time to deal with them - or, indeed, something else first.
ornate hamlet
like these inner demons
pine relic
Literally only played three minutes.
burnt maple
Lol that happens sometimes. Backfill a game straight to failed screen
meager plinth
burnt maple
I never used the maccabian in a game. It just seems like a crappier version of the Deimos, which is already not my preferred sword
Is the vanguard attack on it really narrow?
burnt maple
Zealot chat is always weird
harsh urchin
ya the dueling sword is pretty meh
it doesn't really have an identity
i've always thought that they should've gotten the infinite dodges trait
rather than FS
ornate hamlet
Is the vanguard attack on it really narrow?
Yep, I crowded a bunch of poxwalkers together, hit them dead center and only 2 took damage
It was entirely ridiculous, and the heavy also takes ages to come out
safe crystal
Every attack cleaves 2, other than pattack which cleaves 6
And heavy 1, which doesnt cleave
ornate hamlet
Also
I got a mk4 with better damage stats than another mk4
And somehow it deals less infested damage
None of the damage stats besides damage itself affects infested, and the lower damage sword has a 3% higher damage
Go figure
burnt maple
Lol
ornate hamlet
no fun allowed, I have a shredder and a pocket wallhack sniper and I'm damn well gonna use both
also new sword
lyric burrow
Is the mk4 any good
ornate hamlet
I'm prefering it over the mk5 because while the heavies are worse, the lights are better and I use guns, so I can compensate more for enemies that need the increased damage and light strikedown the mk5 has
The mk4 heavies have a bit of a headshot priority problem like the mk5 slashes, but oh well
meager plinth
for a MkVI id recommend keeping the shred and using uncanny strike for your second blessing
cosmic sigil
Illisi is so broken my god
meager plinth
the MkVI has really poor flak armor penetration
so both having crits help a LOT
and the rending
otherwise you will struggle a lot if you get surrounded by flak armored enemies
lyric burrow
Illisi is so broken my god
Shh dont let fatshark know
lyric burrow
I'm prefering it over the mk5 because while the heavies are worse, the lights ar...
If i paired it with trauma would i be fine
ornate hamlet
idk
lyric burrow
The only gun i really use on psyker is revolver but i dont trust dueling revolver
I was gonna try vraks 7 at some point
snow coral
I have hardly run surge, is this a decent staff?
ornate hamlet
Slap the other warp thingy on the blessings, swap crit damage for maniac and you're swell
snow coral
warp thingy is not descriptive enough for me, lol
meager plinth
for perks id recommend flak/maniac if you want to use it against elites specifically, otherwise I recommend unarmoured/infested
snow coral
and what blessing is being replaced?
ornate hamlet
what do you get on the weapon, i got this now
I found out that the dueling sword is absolute trash without uncanny strike, so I adamantly recommend people to use uncanny strike and rampage
meager plinth
replace terrifying barrage by warp flurry, in its current state terrifying barrage barely is working
ornate hamlet
Shred is okay, but the weapon suffers with hordes and rampage really helps level the playing field
static lintel
so basically, dont use this one and wait for a better sword?
meager plinth
not really
lyric burrow
Can the mk4 horde clear with lights or is that unreliable
ornate hamlet
This is my sword
snow coral
replace terrifying barrage by warp flurry, in its current state terrifying barra...
gotcha, Looks like I need to roll up a warp flurry then, don't have that blessing earned
meager plinth
it can be a really fun weapon, but if you want pure performance, go for a deimos or illisi
this is mine
you can perform up to standards with it but dont expect a weapon that will carry you during a whole game
lyric burrow
Yeah ive just used illisi/deimos a lot
Wanted to make a non slaughterer illisi but havent come up with much yet
static lintel
ill keep my axe for now, the arc of attack seems muh
lyric burrow
Might as well try dueling swords that arent mk5
snow coral
holy shit, I had a single extra surge staff in my inventory and I rolled lvl 4 warp flurry... I think I should go buy a lottery ticket
time to try out the palpatine staff
meager plinth
niiice
ornate hamlet
what is this fucking shitass sword
why is a vanguard attack more damaging than a strike
lyric burrow
Is that mk2
ornate hamlet
Also holy shit the strike damage is abysmal compared to the other marks
Yep
I even rolled a great mk2 when buying to check the stats
lyric burrow
That flak damage on strikedown is sad
ornate hamlet
But it sucks that the sword just sucks
meager plinth
are those on lights?
ornate hamlet
Heavies
ornate hamlet
It has a combo, but it's also slow and the cleave of 2 poxwalkers means you're basically slowing down your damage output
meager plinth
if you do l1 h2 you can loop infinitly into swipe attacks
meager plinth
its pretty bad sadly
not unusable but not good either
I feel like MkII was ment for hordes
lyric burrow
I would like a cleave limit above 2 if its horde clear
lyric burrow
Unless ive got some insane attack speed
spice veldt
i'd say the mk4 is more hordeclear-geared because its light combo loops only the last two lights which are overhead diagonals; whereas the other two duelling swords have uppercut diagonals in the light combo loop that are only going to reliably hit the weakspot of lone enemies
meager plinth
I hope they end up fixing them